All language subtitles for The.Real.Housewives.of.New.York.City.S13E09

Previously on The Real Housewives of New
York City. That was my bald guy she

married, by the way. He married me. Two
one night, that's all you got. One

night? Sonia has allowed her group of
friends to classify her as a less than

valuable woman.

I want love for you. Yeah, I need some
love. So I called my girlfriend. She is

brilliant matchmaker. We're gonna find
you a man.

Really?

Okay, this is called the Vershawn.

I met Vershawn through some mutual
friends, and she's not afraid to make

opinion known, which I like. I'm tired
of this whole, we're white girls from

Upper East Side, you're black girls from
Harlem. We're Americans, we live in the

United States of America. It pisses me
off, seriously. Sis!

No.

Josephine Baker had the banana skirt to
get the attention of the world. And you

know what she did with it? She spoke at
the March on Washington. The most

prolific writer of the Harlem
Renaissance, Joel Neil Hurston.

You can be a little intimidating, maybe.
You know where I'm about to go? I'm not

feeling like I'm on payroll to teach
white women.

I want you to be able to chill, too.

You're too heavy for me right now. This
is too serious of a conversation when I

just want to enjoy my life. But you
can't tell me not to think about how I

This guy was a show.

I'm not going to treat you with kid
gloves and white fragility, too. Because

you're strong.

White woman. Yeah, and you're a strong
black bitch. But one that we survived.

I'm not a big scary monster, you crazy
lady.

Of all my vices, being glamorous is one
I'll never give up.

I'm sex positive and BS negative.

I may say the wrong thing, but my
intentions are always right.

I've had to work twice as hard for half
as much, but now I'm coming for

everything.

Just like New York City, Sonia Morgan
never goes out of style.

Yes.

I know.

I'm the best little girl in the world.

So I'm doing my rounds.

Hey! Hi. Look how pretty you look. I do?

Yeah. Thank you.

Today I woke up feeling so depressed.

Like, the election's driving everybody
insane.

You have such anxiety.

I think that we need to get out of here
to, like, keep our, like, sanity.

So, because...

Of COVID, obviously we can't really like
go too far, but somewhere I've never

been, but I've always been very
fascinated by is Salem, Massachusetts.

Like where the witches come from?

Yes.

Yes. Are you going to burn me? Who are
you, the witch? Only you, Leah. I know.

I've always wanted to go to Salem.

I can be kind of witchy. I'm very into
manifesting. I'm into all that.

And these women, they can kind of be a
bunch of witches. So I think we're all

like going to like the motherland,
actually.

I want to do a latex and leather themed
dinner party the first night we get

there. So bring it.

Latex and leather.

Okay. I want to see these women in latex
and leather. I pretty much want to do

every single thing that they would never
do.

By the way, Bershon is so sweet and
funny and hilarious.

Yeah. And I really want to invite her.

We kind of hit it off right away. I
think Bershon knows how to let loose,

good time.

She seems a bit wild to me.

My bestie, she's dating a guy she loves.

He has a small penis, like this.

Oh, that's two.

I don't think I've ever seen a penis
that small. Me and her can talk about

dicks.

Maybe a ghost will make love to me in my
room because I saw a movie like that

once. You know why witches don't wear
underwear?

Oh, why?

So they can get a better grip on the
broom.

Hi.

Wait, you can see that little step.

Thank you.

Oh my gosh, your voice is so deep. I
know it is. You could be like a radio

announcer. Hi, beautiful.

Gosh, do I really sound that deep? No,
it's not necessarily deep. It just has a

lot of, I don't know what the right
adjective is. Residence.

Residence, right. Do you like it in a
tall glass like, madam? Yeah, she...

Absolutely. Always in a stem glass. Yes,
always in a stem glass.

Mama taught me well. How are you,
beautiful?

I can't complain.

You know, I had that little bit of a
vertigo. That's why I left early. What

vertigo? I'll show you. You're going to
show us your vertigo? Guys, watch. I

sway.

Oh, my God.

I didn't know if it was vertigo or you
didn't like the event. You didn't like

the event? It was just sudden. So I was
like... Right, but why would you think I

didn't like the event unless maybe you
didn't like the event?

Did you not like the event? It was
educational.

Were you expecting to be educated?

No, I sort of didn't. Right, so I guess,
no.

I love learning new things. I know, but
it was like... A hard sell.

It was a hard sell. I thought Ebony's
Harlem event was long -winded, but I

that she was trying to teach the girls.
Because, hey, learn about us. We want to

learn about you. So after I left, you
read the room. So what did you think of

everyone? We liked everyone. Oh, good.

Because we're going to be five days with
each other. Are you ready? You know, I

have to say I'm good with everybody.

I'm the kind of a person, I don't hold a
grudge. I keep it moving.

Don't look backwards. Go forward. Life's
too short. Okay. So when we get there,

it's easy peasy. We're very inclusive.
The only thing is, we definitely fight.

We fight like bitches in hell. We do.
But we do make up. Because you know

We all really care about each other. I
have a lot of so -called other friends.

But a lot of them are just maybe more
really superficial.

But these are the girls.

Like your core.

They're my core.

I'm in. Look at that look. Join it,
girl. Cheers, girl.

You're in, girl. You're in.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you.

Good morning. How are you?

I'm so happy to see you.

I want to manifest love.

You are love.

I'm so excited. This is great. I can't
wait for you to meet Devin. I'm very

comfortable.

I'm just thrilled that Ebony's doing
this. I have the best chance of meeting

somebody who I might actually like with
Ebony. I mean, could you imagine if

Luann or Ramona were setting me up? I
mean, what can I tell you? I really...

cherish my one -on -one relationships
and my, they're like family for me

I'm alone in New York. I know. You're
alone too. I'm a totally loner. When I

heard you were alone like me, I was
like, you get it. That's probably why we

connect. And I'm like, you an introvert.
So I do the same thing, girl. So don't

feel guilty. I got to decompress, baby.
Right. It's a lot going on in this

world. You're very giving and you got a
huge agenda. A huge agenda. I mean,

excuse the word because it's been
cliched.

But I explained to the girls the other
day, your life message has been before,

before the movement.

It feels like she's on a mission.

And I want to like her for her. I don't
need to be educated. I like to be

exposed to more things. I like to learn
more things. You think she's like that

all the time, everywhere? Because she's
a broadcaster, a lawyer.

Even her podcast is about the movement.
I get it. That's her business. But we're

not her business.

It's your life's work. That's it.
Because Ramona, I don't think she's been

malicious, but she tried to.

So you were in the bus, too. She was
like, we all think that you're too

And I was like, I don't think Sonia
thinks that. No, what I said is it's

uncomfortable, and we got to do the
work. Yeah. It is uncomfortable. And it

uncomfortable. But it's always been
uncomfortable, and that's why people

say anything. And that's why we've
gotten ourselves into this mess.

But listen, I like to have a good time,
too. That's why I told Ramona, like, are

you kidding me? I love to have a good
time. It doesn't have to always be

So, like, don't give me that. Well,
that's what they're worried about. But

tell you.

I have a hard time getting my words out
around them because they cut me off.

They don't listen. They don't make me
comfortable. They shut down

That's what Ramona tried to do. And I
made her fit in it. You know what? I got

to go now. OK, I'm going. All right.
Lovely to see you. Thank you. It was

to see me, though. It was lovely.

You were upset. And why?

We don't have to be upset.

Sonia, you did it. So happy.

I said, Ramona, we're not going to shut
this down because you're a tough woman.

You can handle more than you give
yourself credit for. Thank you. She can.

she has shown up. And she did. She sat
there and she took it like a big girl

we had a great combo.

I'm going to be patient with me and
Ramona. I think actually now Ramona,

she's pushed through the panic, she can
actually talk to me. But Ramona and I

are going to be an experiment.

I didn't say whatever they said. I said
it's your mission in life and it's your

job. And it is. Literally. Both those.
And I'm going to actually say it to them

as we go to Salem because they need to
know. Okay. I needed to get it out up

front. I just met you ladies. I wanted
to be very clear and upfront about who I

am and the work that I do and what's in
my heart space.

Now that I feel like I've established
that, we can have totally other kinds of

conversations. That's what they were
hoping for. In fact, they said, I just

now that we've gotten through this, it's
going to get easier. And I said, yes. I

think so. I'm happy to be going on
another trip with the women because I

it's going to give us not a do -over,
but a do -more.

That's it. A do -more. I want Salem to
be good and fun. I don't want to bring

any shit.

To sink. That's right.

We do not need any sh** in Salem.

No sh** in Salem. No sh** in Salem.

No sh** in Salem.

Coming up.

Oh my God, I'm sorry. That thing is
freaking me out.

Might be here.

Okay,

thanks, Raphael. You first, babe.

I'm so excited!

It's the city of, now I'm going to call
it sisterly love.

Sisterly love!

Sonia needs to give herself a chance to
have love again and happiness. And I'm

really excited to connect her with Devin
because I think it's possible. I really

do. I'm excited for her. Sonia, I don't
know if she warned you, though. Like,

I'm a straight shooter.

She's not like me. I like tough love. I
don't need anyone blowing smoke up my...

Good. You know what? She's got a nice
ass. Good, because when you're dating,

you're either a liability or an asset.
What did we talk about in the car? There

we go.

This is a...

She should probably tell you everything
that she learned. She did the warm -up.

But I want to hear it from you. So the
more I know, the more valuable I can be

for you, okay? So, like, don't hold
back.

Don't hold back.

Devin's good with you. I'm ready to go,
and I have a team behind me in terms of

finding you a really great guy.

Let's see if Devin gets me. Honestly,
that's how I feel when I meet anyone,

my reputation, you know, may precede me.
But I think Ebony has described me to

her. So I trust it a bit. So let's start
with some of the coffee.

Anything. Yeah.

So I'm going to have coffee with them.
What do we want? Oh, little neck clams.

That goes great with coffee.

I'm eclectic.

I'm going to just do a sparkling water
and lime for now. Thank you.

OK, so tell me a little bit about you.
What are you passionate about right now?

What do you enjoy doing?

What do you want to do more of?

I help people through my philanthropy,
raising money for different causes.

Okay. What are some causes close to your
heart?

Animals, children, LGBT, and artists.
Okay. The vulnerables. Yeah.

And I'm learning more and more recently
about the black movement through my

friend Ebony. Good. And then I'm on the
board of my family's charity, American

Friends of Blair and Core, which is Ann
Morgan's Chateau outside of Paris. Okay.

And it's a museum. I'm just a
Francophile.

Okay. I'm not adverse to French or
Italian men.

Okay. I married American, but he loved
to travel. Okay. But I should say we

loners. We liked to spend a lot of time
alone. Yeah. We've had a hell of a

conversation. On an island. Yeah, on a
private island.

Those things aren't important to me.
Okay. Well, they're not the most

They're not the most important. The
lawyer in me has got to advocate for my

girl. Yeah. So we don't want nobody
broke.

Right. No broke asses.

Sonia married the bank.

Where do you go from there? A broke one?
I don't think so.

So someone who's worldly and smart,
would it be fair to say that that's one

your must -haves?

Those are my must -haves, but I have no
problem spending a lot of time at home,

dinner at home. Are there age
parameters?

No, no age parameters. Okay. So, Devin,
as we start talking a bit about future,

I truly believe, which is why I brought
her here, she's ready for a new chapter.

So, I do actually have a guy in mind.
Oh, shit.

Fran, but I'm going to go back with the
team. We'll do some reevaluating, but I

do already have someone in mind who
lives in New York.

She literally said that. She said you're
Francophile, which made me think of

him. He's worldly. He's fun and
easygoing. He's a very good dad. His

works at his firm.

So we'll see. That sounds intriguing. I
trust Devin because I trust Ebony, and I

think she's taken the time to describe
who I really am.

The real me, not the, you know, straw
that stirs the drink.

When do you want to get married again?

Well, I'm ready, but, you know, I don't
really believe in waiting forever

because I'm, what would you say? I'm a
grown -ass woman. She's a grown -ass

woman, baby.

Yay!

I love it!

Black turtleneck, we've got the sweater.
We're going to a haunted house, so I

need a good chapeau. Where are my hats?

I'll get you one.

All right.

Oh, don't put him on the bed. That's
very bad luck.

Did you not know that? No.

Very bad luck.

First night is leather or latex.

I'll be like a cat.

These are good. Walking boot and then
sports bra for working out.

I'm hungry.

You want to come with me? Do you want to
get in the bag?

God,

we need to put you in the bag. witch
outfit.

It would look so cute on her.

Hey, baby.

Ebony K. Williams.

Ebony K.

Motherf***ing Williams.

Where are you?

So, hey, Sonia. Sonia and I are coming
back from Philly. Oh, my God. How was

Very chill. Very good.

So, listen, for Salem, you guys need to
get your asses home and pack because

we're leaving tomorrow.

I know. We haven't packed yet.

That's why we didn't stay overnight.

We're going to be doing a stay -on.

Okay. But there's other things that
you're going to freaking love that we're

doing, honestly.

Great. I'm actually really glad we're
doing a stay -on. Me too. Let's do

something different. Let's get
spiritual. Let's manifest.

Let's just go out of our comfort zone.
Let's get spooky, bitches.

We came up with a saying. No shit in
Salem.

No shit in Salem. We all need to take a
major chill and like live in a little

Salem bitch bubble for five days. Yeah,
we're with it. Okay, good.

Coming up.

This one's us is next level.

You look like Catwoman.

You are. Wow.

This is the first trip I'm hosting.

And look, these women are not easy to
please.

They have big expectations.

I love it.

And we do have to drive about four
hours.

Oh my god.

And this is how I do it. Rockstar style.

I want a tour bus.

Hi. OK, perfect.

Hey, oh my god. This is awesome.

Isn't it so cool?

And guess what? There's Wi -Fi. Just for
you.

Just for me and the other witches.

Oh my god.

I've never been to Salem, but, you know,
I'm into the witch thing.

Witches with the bitches.

Hi.

Hi.

Oh, my God.

This is fun.

Oh, my God. This is so much fun. It's so
you.

What? This is so you. This is so tour
bus. I love it. And me just being one of

those. What do you call those? Rony
girls? Groupie.

Groupie. It's a groupie. It's a groupie
bus.

little kitchen.

Mia, you bring it, girl. I brought it,
girl. This is like the club. This is

where they're smoking weed and banging
dice and whatever.

I'm literally going to sleep. Oh, my
God.

You just made me wake up.

It's getting weird, Ramona. I packed
gray and black, and you're wearing gray

black. It's getting so weird.

We always match, Ramona and I, without
even trying. If she wears leopard, I'm

wearing leopard. Oh, my God.

Oh, shoot.

Hi.

Hello, hello, hello.

Hi. How are you guys? Welcome to our
tour bus. I know. Look at this staff.

Love your whole outfit right now. I love
you guys.

Sounds good. Hi, Judy.

Hi, gorgeous.

Okay, off we go.

Salem, bitch, Salem. We're the witches.

I'm going to lay down for a little bit.
I need a rest. First of all.

going to be great. I have, like, the
things that are planned, I'm very, very

excited. It's going to be very special.
It really is. This is a crazy bus. It

reminds me of those trains that you can
sleep on because there's actually, like,

beds. Beds to sleep.

Ready to take a nap?

I'm going to have to go back here and do
it.

Tell us about your trip to the
matchmaker thing. It was great.

It was great?

Did she have some guys for you, or what
happened? She had one guy in mind. She's

going to start doing a search.

Mm -hmm.

She's got her work cut out.

I usually meet the men I know through
friends of mine, but this is why I call

them friends with benefits. But now I
want commitment, and that is a whole

different ballgame. I need you to get me
one of those vibrators, the Gumby ones

that you had. Remember I got the stupid
one? I know what happened to me. The one

that was in the chicken. I don't want
that.

There's a vibrator in the chicken.

What? Yeah. Oh, my God. I have to laugh,
otherwise I'd cry.

We need to go online this trip. We need
to get another one. Hold on. I want one,

too. All right, let's do it right now.
Let's go. Because there was that good

one. There was the good one.

Vibrator sex for men.

Sex for men? What is this? Sex for
Sonia.

Okay, here we go.

Look at that.

Tried and true.

That's the good one.

That's it.

That's it. That's it. We're on the same
page.

Luann likes a vibrator.

Sonia likes a vibrator. I like a
vibrator.

So. We already clicked.

It's funny that all of us have been
through divorce.

All of us. Yeah, twice for me. Who did
you marry?

I married a British banker.

I got cancer two weeks before my
wedding.

What kind of cancer? Stage four breast
cancer.

They gave me three months to live. I got
on my knees. I prayed to God, if you

keep me alive, I will be a warrior for
everyone on this earth.

Cancer really messes with your mind,
right? You know what I mean? Think about

death. Cat scan, cat scan, going to
doctors. I mean, like, you've got to

push through it. When someone tells you
you're going to die, you wake up.

So I'm awake.

Not afraid of anyone.

How long have you been cancer -free now?

13 years, baby.

Awesome. 13 years, yeah.

I'm looking forward to getting to know
Breshawn on this trip because we had a

nice time together in Harlem. She can be
silly and have fun. So, yeah, I'll

party with my girl Breshawn.

All right. Tonight, you know we're
having our latex and leather dinner.

I love it. But at the dinner, there will
be fortune tellers, tattoo artists, and

anyone who wants to get a tattoo.

It's permanent.

I will be getting one. It is not
permanent.

Our dinner is at a tattoo shop.

It's a beautiful tattoo shop.

I'm not sure who's going to get a tattoo
and who isn't, but we know Leah will

for sure because she loves tattoos. Me,
I don't like tattoos. I don't want it to

face my body, you know? I don't.

Am I doing this right? We're all
twinning. You look like you're going to

the moon, though, Leah. I'm ready to
take off.

All right, are we ready? All right,
let's do it.

Welcome to Salem.

Hi. How are you?

Hi. Oh, wow, it smells so good in here.
Thank you. Welcome to the Hawthorne. I

love it.

It smells like smoky, yeah.

Come on in, ladies. We'd love to take
you in, get a welcome for you. I love

freaking hotel.

It's a little spooky, but the place is
beautiful.

Hello. Hello, ladies.

Hello. What is this, dear?

There's a rose quartz that's been
anointed for you. We're just going to

sort of in a circle.

Wait, are we supposed to eat these? No,
no. There's a crystal. I thought it was

rock crystal quartz.

I'm the general manager of the historic
Hawthorne Hotel. We were built in 1925,

and it was named after Nathaniel
Hawthorne, the author of The House of

Gables and The Scarlet Letter, as well
as all the small stories. Since it was

built, there's been a lot of experiences
of spiritual encounters throughout the

decade. In 1692, the witch trials
happened here at the Hawthorne Hotel.

people were killed.

Nineteen were hung, and one was pressed
to death.

Pressed to death.

Wait, that happened here?

Wow. What?

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Coming up.

I want a game. I want a game. I want a
game.

Ramona, you are making yourself look
other than you are. You can't change the

subject.

In 1692, the witch trials happened here
at the Hoffman Hotel. 20 people were...

In the hotel?

No, no, no.

Okay, I was like, hold on. I don't like
the energy. I know.

Where's the bus?

Ooh, there's a lot of, like, witch
energy going on.

John Hathon was one of the judges of the
witch trials. He was Nathaniel Hathon's

great -great -grandfather.

So some people say John Hathon is coming
back to the Hathon Hotel. Oh, my God,

I'm sorry. That thing is freaking me out
right now.

because I am the nervous one. No, no,
it's not OK.

It's haunted.

In horror movies, the black person gets
killed first.

Not my type of girls trip.

What I want to do for you now is
introduce my catering manager, June

Great. Thank you. Hi.

June is also a priestess in the coven
here in Salem with witchcraft.

Oh my god. OK, great. We're just going
to do a quick little goddess blessing to

set our intention and get us ready for
the weekend, OK? Let's do that, yeah.

May the powers of the dark -winged crow
fly with us.

May the whispers of the raven wing be
with us. May the howl of the wolves run

with us.

May these women not get us thrown out of
Salem, Massachusetts, because I really

want to come back here with Kiki.

So mote it be.

So mote it be. Oh, I love that.

Hey, let it begin.

Get the chills a little bit.

I'm so in love with this hotel. I love,
you know, the spookiness of it. Claire,

what time do they start serving
breakfast?

10 .30?

Ramona, whatever you want for breakfast.
You got it, sister.

Can I order room service without an
extra charge?

If I were a ghost in this hotel, I'd go
to the other room. Is room service

included? I mean, what ghost is going to
come back and mess with the singer?

Oh, I love this bed. This is gorgeous.

Oh, my gosh.

Right? Oh, you guys hung our stuff up
already.

I got a bathroom.

The most haunted room.

Everything here is mostly positive
energy again. It's not really negative.

Usually it's a tug on your foot when
you're sleeping.

And probably, Stone, you're pulling on
my foot, will you, Stone? Oh, I'm not

putting no toe tag on you. It's too
early.

Whoa. Oh, wow. Look at this. Oh, my God.
Oh, this is amazing.

Oh, you got your own stage.

Yeah, thank God. Everyone has their own
personalized altar.

Bang play.

Like feng shui.

I love it.

Gorgeous. Oh, wow. Beautiful.

Help yourself.

Oh, good.

I'm so glad.

Oh, my gosh.

So glad.

You're getting lit.

I'm going to sage this room before any
evil spirits come in here.

You know, I sage my room just because
maybe it'll bring a good ghost. Only

spirits here. Maybe I'll, you know, get
lucky during the night.

You look creepy.

You look rage.

Oh, why didn't I just go in Ramona's
room? I can't do this.

Little lace.

Hey, I'm with the girls. I got the
puppies showing. Why not?

Okay. Give me that facelift.

When you've been wearing pajamas for a
year, the thought of getting into latex

is, like, really f***ing exciting.

But I've also been looking for an excuse
to dress like a dominatrix.

You have to lay down your edges with gin
and tonic.

That's how I'm feeling myself.

Looking for an excuse for a pug.
Exactly. You look amazing. Are you

This is wonderful.

No, thank you. I'm borderline. This is
really wonderful, actually. I had

something sticky like this. I couldn't
even get my foot in, so I gave it to my

daughter. You look great. But I did the
lace. I followed the rules. Thank you.

Yes, bitch!

Hi! You look so sexy. Hi, baby.

Love the outfit.

Love you, baby.

Look at this. I said this was an excuse
to have this pug. Because she knew it

was so hot. She wanted to wear modified
chaps again.

Unbelievable. I love it. It's so hot.

Amazing.

Turn around the butt. Is it good?

Cheeky. Oh, good.

My butt looks okay tonight. This one's
ass is next level. You look like

Catwoman. This one's ass is next level.
Your ass looks really good, too. She's

the Halle Berry Catwoman. Oh, yeah, you
are.

You are.

Wow. Sweet. Where are these?

Yeah, we're going to have some fun
today.

Okay,

Boomer.

Okay, let's go.

Oh, this is extremely nice. Hi.

Oh, I love your hair.

Thank you.

I'm so happy with my room. I burn my
sage already.

Okay, is anybody else getting a tat?

What do you mean? A tattoo.

Oh, no.

I like my body for you. Yeah, I think
Lou should think about it. Are you doing

it? Are you? I don't think I'm ever
going to get another one.

Oh, you have one? Oh, I have a bunch.

person with tattoos currently. We're all
tattoo free.

What's on your back?

It's a tramp stamp.

I don't talk to people with tattoos.

I'm tattoo free. Are you doing it?

I'm thinking about it. Let's do it,
baby.

I really am. You thinking about it too
much?

You girls are nuts.

You're doing this just because of the
pandemic.

So are we actually having dinner in a
tattoo salon?

Yeah. Oh, they serve dinner there?

It's decorated like really, it's like a
beautiful space. I may want it on the

top of my ass.

Coming up.

You have no idea what you're talking
about. You live in a tiny little bubble

a world so far away. You have no idea
who I am.

You are what's wrong in the world.

Okay, guys.

Ooh.

Oh, my God. Look how great this is. It
looks beautiful. Oh, my God. It's like

Halloween all the time here.

Hi. Oh, my God.

Okay, this is the fortune teller.

Wait, guys, get your fortune.

Wow, you've got some big hands.

I feel very good about this. The place
looks beautiful.

The women are impressed.

I know we have, like, a few more days,
but I feel like I already got, like, an

-plus on this trip.

Drink up, witches.

I'm going to be on my best behavior
tonight.

Are you twins?

Yeah. What are you going to do tonight?

Well, we're trying to scare you.

I'm not scared.

I'm intrigued.

I'm Ryan.

I'm Matt. Ryan and Matthew are holy
names. I think I could use a blessing

tonight. One thing I know for sure is
these twins are not scary. They're just

cute. Cheers, ladies.

Thank you. I'm so happy we're doing
this.

So I'll take a blessing before the evil
spirits come into the room. Oh, is that

a lobster mini room?

Wow. The good stuff. So tell us about
your trip to Philly.

Yeah, I want to know. Tell us about
that. It was lovely. I had a great time

Ebony, and she was very chill, just for
those who aren't interested.

Fun girl, light, lively, nothing to do
with the current conversation of the

movement or the election.

We talked girl talk.

I love girl talk.

Okay. Where is this coming from? Because
when Ebony first joined the group,

group she wanted to let everyone know
her platform and her mission was about

black lives matter and liberating black
life in america yeah and what's wrong

with that well some people thought it
was a little heavy i

appreciate sonia for being able to share
those aspects of me with these women

but it also tells me that they have
taken this narrative of me being teachy

preachy

Too damn far.

It got to be like a lot during the
election.

And as Luann pointed out, it was like
post -traumatic stress for many people

just to deal with the COVID.

Sonia's stirring the pot.

I mean, she's stirring the cauldron. She
wanted us to know when she first met

us, she's new to the group, who she was
and what she's about. Her life mission

is to make a change.

And it's uncomfortable for people. And
Sonia got it right, which is that that's

so not all who I am. Like, y 'all have
been around me enough. You know, I know

how to have a good time.

What it is is that Sonia is like spot on
because I'm new to the group. I wanted

to just make that extremely clear where
I fell on that issue so there's no

confusion. Because we can kiki.

We can have laughs.

Ramona, you're not going to shut it
down, baby, because you're strong.

I'm just going to say this one thing
because we still have a right to speech,

think. So here's the thing.

I want a kiki. I want to talk about girl
talk and boys and all that good stuff.

It was so great. However, you can't get
to the kiki if I have an outstanding

question in my heart and mind. If you
are aligned with white supremacy.

White supremacy is not 1920s Jim Crow
South burning crosses and hanging

up black people by nuisance.

This is the reality that in today's
America, you're either one of two

You are an anti -racist.

Or you are a racist.

That's what it is. So tell me about the
matchmaker. That's what I want to hear.

Yeah, but I don't know where you got the
idea that we might be aligned with

white supremacy.

That's what's confusing to me because we
had our conversations.

We got through it because of tolerance
and because of coming to the table and

talking. Communication. It's called
communication.

I don't know where Ebony's coming from
right now. It's very confusing.

None of us have given her.

any indication of what she's trying to
accuse us of i mean this is ridiculous

it's ridiculous that's what makes us
work as a group of friends is we talk to

each other about all this that's going
on in our life amen so we hear you loud

and clear and well speak for yourself
well you do i do we all do what are you

talking well ramona my dear and you know
i really really care for you i felt

when i came over friday you didn't want
to hear what i had to say I'm not tight.

I don't know.

Race, religion or creed. Is that OK?

Ramona, that's who I am.

I don't want to talk about race, creed
or color.

Because you've been preaching about it
for like the past every time we see you.

That's why. And all the other girls said
that. She even said that. She said it

was too much. Wait, but John said that?

No, no, no. Yes, she did. No, let me
speak for myself. And by the way, when

Sonia was with us for lunch, she also
agreed on the same thing. Yeah.

It's a huge movement right now.

No, I know. And we respect that. But I'm
wondering when it's going to loosen up

with her a little bit and we can talk
about other subjects.

And have some fun.

You know, Sonia likes to play both sides
of the coin.

The movement is awkward.

I didn't say it.

Ebony. We need to hear.

I need to hear this stuff.

I don't think it has to do with Ebony
talking about racism.

I think that the issue was more about
Ebony's personality.

Exactly. Because normally when a new
woman comes to this group, you get shit

Yes. I got shit on by this one.

Yes.

All right, stop.

You're dancing like a stripper. Get the
producers here. You're being psychotic.

Shut it down.

I got you by this one. Yes. Hey.

Hi. Is this your idea? Oh, God. I should
have known.

Because you're like below 14. Yeah.

Sometimes by that one.

Ebony is not allowing that to happen at
all. Thank you.

You guys have been friends for 13 years
and there's never been a black woman in

your group ever. You understand the kind
of pressure that is on her in every

single news outlet. First black woman.
You have to ignore the press. The press

can kill you.

Shut up.

Shut the fuck up.

I have no idea what you're talking
about. You live in a tiny little bubble

world so far away. You have no idea who
I am.

Ramona, listen, don't be defensive.

I am. Just be quiet.

You are what's wrong in the world, so
shut up. You're what's wrong. You

absolutely are. You're what's wrong. You
absolutely are. Trust me.

Trust me.

You have no idea what you're talking
about. You live in a tiny little bubble

a world so far away.

Be quiet.

You are what's wrong in the world, so
shut up. You're what's wrong.

You absolutely are.

So here is the thing your intention is
to let people learn and understand What

you do on their own terms? Well,
whatever is sometimes deliver can come

little harsh, and it can come across a
little teaching.

So you have to understand with these
women, it can come across like, all

oh, God, is she giving us a lecture? The
intent is great, but it can come across

too much.

I've already accepted, based on Harlem
Night, Breshawn and I have a different

approach, certainly with this particular
group of women. But Breshawn

respectfully says, don't encroach on
mine. I receive you, and I hear you. And

hear that for white women, That might
not have had to sit in the

uncomfortability of these conversations.

I know that this might feel exhausting
to have to feel like every mother in day

is something else. It's Black Lives
Matter. And he got a mask on. It's this

that. You said something, Mona, and I
know you meant it purely. That is, we

don't want to have to always hear about
your cause.

No, I think sometimes you get you to
preaching, teaching. Well, you talked

that. I'm almost done.

It's not a cause because it's my
existential right to exist as a free,

person in this country.

But you're living a great life. I
understand.

OK, and I want to leave it on luggage. I
don't even have what you have. I don't

live your life. I want your life. Can I
have your life? I want your life.

You're living real good.

Ramona is saying something that a lot of
people that look at me feel, which is

you're talking about Black Lives Matter.
You're talking about black.

subordination of life, but I'm looking
and I'm seeing a first -class existence.

Well, no, because you said you suffer.
And I said, looking at you, I don't

you suffer. Just because she's doing
well doesn't mean she didn't struggle or

that she didn't have to face any racism
or any sexism or whatever.

Like, no one sees Ramona struggling
either. I'm sure she's had to deal with

stuff. Well, triple that. And that's
Ebony. But guess what? Ramona Singer, my

love, who I enjoy, and I think we're
this close to real sisterhood. No, I

understand. I can't get there.

If I have to have an authentic,
outstanding question about not you being

Klansman, but if you were aligned with
white supremacy.

Oh, my. And that's a question.

Just what does that mean? Because
obviously we hear white supremacy and

like, geez, that's like the worst thing
in the world. What does that mean? So

I'm not saying anybody is. I'm asking
the question. I know, but you're

questioning us. Are you talking about
Donald Trump?

I'm talking about Donald Trump. I don't
think everybody voted for Donald Trump

is a white supremacist. But some people
that did are.

If you support Trump because of economic
reasons, say that. Now, be prepared to

get pushback, but at least be prepared
to stand by your reasons for supporting

this president. And at least with me, we
can have a dialogue.

But Ramona won't even go there. Have you
ever supported Donald Trump ever? I

have never supported Donald Trump. But,
like, there is footage of you, I'm sure

you've seen it, saying positive things
about him. You said you weren't sure who

you were going to vote for. You said
your mom was going to vote for him. No,

mom did vote for him. You're talking on
one side, and then you're supporting

Trump. I have never supported Donald
Trump. My mother voted for Donald Trump

2016. I was very vocal about that. She
had her reasons.

I just came to have some fun. Why do

we have to have this conversation?

I hate that Ramona left, but I
understand that it was too hot. Ramona

sit here and be uncomfortable.

It is uncomfortable. So you're saying if
anyone voted for Donald Trump here,

they're part of white supremacy?

No, but I wanted to know.

she stood on the issue that's it it's a
question we know how things are in the

world and you know if you vote for him
or support him like she does right be

able to say i support him because of his
tax code which i can respect and say i

support him because of where he falls on
the iran deal right she barely knows

the english language

I'm like cringing.

I think that maybe Ramona should have
stayed wherever she was.

Because coming back to this and doing
the I'm white dance, I don't know if

ever living this one down.

Next time on The Real Housewives of New
York City.

You know it's Friday the 13th, right?

You guys aren't going to get mad if I
dress like an oppressor, right? Don't

me, bitch.

to defame my body are you sure you want
to do this ramona shut up well why are

you crying so bad oh okay this group is
a little bit boring we're

boring you guys are being grandmas