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Tonight, the conclusion of the Real Housewives of New York City reunion.

Follow your gut. True that. It was like crazy.

I love it. Better to say I'm sorry than be a denier.

I was like on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Once Tinsley left the show,

Dorinda made me her punching bag.

Don't you look at yourself and go, oh, my God, I can't believe I said that to

Lou. I don't think Syrinza hits below the belt. What? I'm sorry. You need to

think about that. You scammed us.

She's explaining herself.

Can I finish? She doesn't want to hear you respond.

Read the text. I love you. Why are you doing this?

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of New York City reunion.

I'm Andy Cohen.

Well, as any avid watcher of the New York Housewives can tell you, it's more

than just entertainment.

It's an anthropological experience.

Watch this.

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Whoa. Sorry. Sorry.

Sorry goes a long way. I'm sorry. It does.

Sorry. I'm sorry. It's an afternoon.

It's insulting.

I'm sorry. No, I'm not. I'm not. Sorry. Don't need you in my life. I'm sorry,

but sorry goes a long way.

to catch a dick.

If I don't catch a dick, I don't care.

And then you die and you catch some dick on the way. I mean, the dick's good.

Never touch a small dick.

Thank you, Sonia.

I've never received a dick pic, except the wrong number.

My dick would go like that.

The only reason you would leave a girls event is to catch a dick.

All right, let's go.

Come on, girls.

Check with Ramona. She needs to be wrangled. Get your ass over here, girl.

You want to skedaddle? Let's go skedaddle. Okay, let's go.

Yay! Okay, let's go. All right, girls, let's get started, right? Let's sit.

Let's all sit down. Okay, sit down, Dawn. Don't touch my lawnmower.

Lady, the soup is getting cold.

Come on, hurry up. The ceviche is waiting for us. It's going to get warm.

anybody like a...

Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.

the thing. Here's the thing about Sonia's rambling. You know what it is?

the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the

thing about Romano. Are you serious? Can you imagine?

Can you imagine?

Can you imagine?

Can you imagine?

Again. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? Wait, I want to smell it. I'm only

smelling it. What? I'm just interested.

Oh, God.

Roseanne Coca -Cola.

Did you know you did? Who would have known?

Jesus. I didn't know that. I didn't know you were a sniffer. Did you know that?

What?

What? Did you know that?

Did you just smell your armpits? Yes.

I love it. That's awesome. You were stunned by your smelling.

Stunned. I thought, I had no idea that's what it was going to be.

That's really funny. It's so weird.

Has no one ever said?

But, you know, I'm a very, like, the way I learn is by, like, touching things

and feeling them. So smelling them, too, maybe. I don't know.

Donnie from Ann Arbor said, Dorinda, you have almost a European way of speaking.

Can you imagine, and here's the thing, things you picked up living in England,

or is that more your mom's influence?

I have no idea. I didn't really realize I say it so much. Here's the thing. I

didn't really know.

Celia from Nashville said, Lou, it seems like you're always trying to keep the

ladies on track and maintain decorum. Do you see yourself as the peacekeeper

mama of the group?

Absolutely. Yeah, you know, I'm left with the task of doing some wrangling

I'm not being the snatch guard. Snatch guard.

Kathy from Toluca Lake, California said, Ladies, do two words coming out of a

person's mouth mean any less than when Ramona says, I'm sorry?

Better to say I'm sorry than to be a denier.

Okay.

Sal from Pittsburgh said, Sonia, what's with the fascination with catching a

dick this season?

Is this a law of attraction thing? Say it enough and it'll appear?

No, I believe when you're drinking, sometimes you project.

I'm going to say the reason I was like, I wasn't getting any.

Since like October.

Malia from LA said, ladies, once again this season, the subject of dick pics

reared its head.

Sometimes it's easier to just ask for a dick pic. If it's a micro penis, I'm not

wasting my time.

Oh my God.

Excluding Leah for obvious reasons, who in the group do you think received the

most dick pics?

Ramona.

You said you got one as a wrong number.

I was about to show you my dick pic. It's the only one I ever got in my life

it was the wrong number. He says to me, no response.

I miss you. I miss it too. Nothing is like it ended over.

Dorinda tried to backtrack the number to see who it was, but I liked his decor.

I liked his apartment. You liked his decor?

How was the dick?

Decor? But we couldn't really size it up. Oh my God, moving on.

Well, she's been called the singer -stinger and the apologizer. But this

the women wondered, could Ramona be called a good friend?

Take a look.

Hi, Ramona. Hi, Christina. Christina, lovely to see you. Hi, do you see I'm

here? I come here all the time. Oh, my God, my other girlfriend.

Hi, Ramona. You're not a social light.

You're social fucking heavy.

Come over and say hello. Come over.

Are you here? Are you sort of here? My friends are crying over me. No, but

you're here with your friends here. I am social. I have a problem.

They don't have as many girlfriends as I do. So maybe it's a little resentment

and a little jealous.

I love Ramona. I love her friends. But I just think she's treating us friends

like we're chicken liver.

You're chopped liver.

With Sonia, I have to bring myself down. With my other friends, I have to

elevate myself.

What does she expect me to do, hang from the chandelier? Come on. Yeah, well, I

was on a diet. I'll see you in the morning. I'm going to go to my

party. Ramona, stop!

Are you kidding me?

Leave your guests at home and go to a party. No, you're not. Girl, I want to

out. The winner of the Word's Post, this award goes to Ramona Singer.

At the end of the lunch yesterday, she calls me crying because she fat shames

her. When we were at the spa, Ramona tells me that I need to lose at least 10

pounds. I mean, really?

So how many girlfriends do you have coming in your birthday?

50. 50?

You don't talk to 50 women. Come on.

50 women? I would not be where I am today.

But they were there for me when I was going there. I said that you're sober.

they're not there for you. That's true. Well, shut the f*** up about that.

Lucia Wong -Garden, and Pamela Morgan were all at my baby shower.

Then Ramona's like, these are my friends for a long time. I'm like, yeah,

through me.

My girls got me this because, you know, they love to do that. Oh, here's a

pocketbook fund. Get the fuck out of here. We're talking about superficial.

She literally asked each person to donate $100 to get a gift. Well, at

has a real Gucci bag now because the other one she wears is fake.

All my Gucci bags are real, by the way. No, they're not. Definitely not. Philip

from Kansas City wonders, Sonia, Dorinda, and Luann, is Ramona in the

different from Ramona in the city?

Seems like her sole reason for existing in the Hamptons is to see and be seen.

Do you agree?

Amen! Yes.

Okay. Yeah, actually, what happened, the reason why I have...

A lot of girlfriends.

Everything is very popular. I wasn't asking that about the girlfriends. I

dinner parties for 10, 20. I go to parties for 10, 20.

All those girls at my party, I've seen half of them a dozen times since I've

been in the Hamptons in small groups of 10. Okay.

Brian from Chattanooga said, Ramona, you've always been a double booker, but

leaving a party at your own home in the Hamptons was nuts.

Can you not see how desperately you suffer from FOMO? Well, no, what

was, okay, we were all invited to this party. They were all really enjoying

themselves and they didn't want to leave.

And you know what? I knew they were just going to like, just like, you know,

crash out. And I wanted to go for an hour, one hour.

You just wanted to go to the party because you're horny. That's it. Sonia,

seems that Ramona bringing up her 50 friends was a real trigger for you.

Absolutely. I've been there for her through thick and thin. You know what?

And you feel like a lot of those friends are your friends. Excuse me. 60 is the

new 40. How many times have you seen Pamela Morgan?

Shut the F -T -F -U.

Okay?

When we come back.

I go, Sonia, maybe you need to lose a little weight. I was so embarrassed I

cried. Maybe you should lose a few pounds.

for her through thick and thin. And you feel like a lot of those friends are

your friends.

How many times have you seen Pamela Morgan?

Shut up. S -T -F -U.

Okay? I've seen Pamela Morgan 15 times since I got back. She did my daughter's

birthday baby shower. That was 20 years ago. How many times have you seen her in

two months? I've seen her 15 times. I see her all the time. Good for you. You

work a little harder. You haven't even seen her. I get invited by her. She

doesn't see anybody.

She goes down under.

Well, because I'm a recluse. I don't have a husband. I am invited. My

girlfriends are everything. Where are

I met you at her house. It's you and me. Not them. They don't care about you.

They're using you to do the pocketbook fund.

We'll all chip in $100. You know what I said to the $100? This.

I'm not buying you Chanel's to be your friend.

Gareth from Dallas said, ladies, by show of hands, who doesn't think Ramona

sounds like an asshole whenever she talks about having 50, 60, or 70

Who doesn't think? Yeah, you sound like an ass. I said that. You know what? I'm

64 years old. I've cultivated these girlfriends since I'm 25.

When you're 30 years later, you'll have a lot of more girlfriends too, okay?

These are my girls. I don't think I will. I love them. I hang out with them

birthday parties, dinner parties, Thanksgiving, bar mitzvahs. I see them

time. I am so blessed.

That's really deep.

Dorinda, what's wrong with a 63 -year -old woman throwing herself a birthday

party?

It just seems insincere, that many women.

It was for your own party, for your own birthday. I know, but it was for people

that were... Such a contradiction. There was like 10 people there.

These women, some of them you just met.

Who did I just meet? Mary.

Maria? Maria.

Oh my, are you kidding me? Known her for a year and a half.

She's at my house every other day.

And I feel like an emptiness in you. I just always wake up happy and I wake up

in this apartment and I start crying.

I just think it comes off as a sincere. Maria and I are very close. You're so

wrong, Dorinda.

She's also climbing.

Danny from West Hollywood said, Leah, you threw some shade at Ramona saying

at least after her party, Ramona has a real Gucci bag. Did you spot her with a

fake? before, or where did you get your intel? Yeah, I did.

You did? I have all real Gucci.

Not that one. No, not that one. I have all Gucci. Sorry.

It had a giant, these two giant Gs that I could tell were fake.

The day I understand everyone in our group will be the day that I have a

dollars. Yeah.

No, sweetie, they're all real.

Chinatown. Someone that has real bags doesn't act that excited when they get

just a freaking bag. You acted like you've never seen a bag before. It was

weird. OK.

boringness. You are not boringness.

You know what? It was a present. I love presents.

I got, I jumped up and down. It was like crazy. Well, I'm excited.

I'm sorry.

I'm like a little kid in, I'm sorry, I'm happy.

Mick from New York said, Ramona, why would you ever call one of your close

friends heavy like you did to Sonia? I know you have a bit of the diarrhea of

the mouth, but that was rude and uncalled for. Because you know what?

I have these voluptuous bodies and I can go up and down by 10 pounds. You're

looking up right now, but that's all right. And my girl would say, oh,

you're getting a little porky. I go, oh, you're right. Oh my God, yes.

And I go, Sonia, because she was trying to struggle. I go, Sonia, maybe you need

to lose a little weight. That's all I said. And guess what, Andy?

That's when I started putting hand to mouth.

I went from 147 to 152, and you can attest to that. If a good girlfriend

tell you you need something, who can? Sorry.

She told me that.

I was so embarrassed I cried.

Well, now you lost 27 pounds. Not because you shamed me. I had to go to

desert and get connected with my spiritual side. I didn't shame you. I

maybe you should lose a few pounds.

Maybe I should get a friend that's a little more compassionate. Because I

you don't want to buy new clothes.

July from Queens said, Dorinda, you gave Elise a lot of grief for defending

Ramona, but hasn't Sonia been doing that for years?

Sonia flip -flops. You know, she depends.

No, she's always defending Ramona, even if she's wrong.

True that.

Elise was coming to Leah and I constantly and saying how terrible

being to her, and she couldn't figure out why.

When we're not with you, girl, we're great.

It's only around this group that she gets a little weird.

She just shuts it down.

You know what it is?

Ramonaville is filled with a lot of one -way street.

I still,

to this day, don't know why you two fell out. Why did you fall out, Ramona?

She's a black widow.

And I knew this, and I should have never trusted her.

Follow your gut. I felt bad. But she did betray Ramona. So you felt like you

brought her on the show and she was talking about you. I will come on the

and these girls don't have your back, but I will. And she didn't have my back.

She betrayed me. Same thing, Tim. She didn't want her to have any again. You

wanted her to have blind loyalty to you. Yeah. And she didn't. And she didn't.

Right. Okay. And she betrayed me. So why would I want her around me? Is she the

Barbara Kay of this season?

Yeah. Are you and Barbara Kay not friends anymore? No.

Wow. You got to have loyalty. That's too bad. You have to respect people. That

was a long friendship. Yeah, that was her doing, though. I mean, you're not

Adele, Luann. No, I'm not, and I don't pretend to be, but to actually say that

was not very nice for me to hear.

But I always feel like you're about to ruin a friendship over something like

that. Yeah, and it was Elise's doing the same thing.

Valerie from Chicago said, Ramona, you were accused by Sonia, Dorinda, and

for being friends when it's convenient.

And that you're in your own world and everyone is just living in it.

What do you have to say about that? No, I'm with friends and people who are...

happy and bring me happiness and are positive people. But that's not what

friendships is about. Sometimes you're not happy. Sometimes, I mean, my

I've had friends for 20 years, and I know, but then that's just called

superficial friends. That's called acquaintances. But if I am going through

something traumatic, I have to find a friend that's going to shepherd me and

journey me through that. Here I am. Life isn't about always being happy.

When Luann's down, I'm there. So, to wrap up this conversation, How are you

ladies feeling about Ramona after all this?

Sonia? We're family.

I love her.

You seem like you are going to do a reset.

I'll probably never ruin your backyard again. That you, I can promise you.

She cleaned it up. I'm not going to get naked.

Can you get naked though? I want to see you naked. All that you're going to do.

I want to get naked. I want you naked.

Coming up.

I don't think.

Dorinda hit below the belt. What?

I'm sorry. You need to think about that.

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of New York City Season 12 reunion.

We are freshly sanitized and ready for more.

This season, Sonia by Sonia Morgan made a promising deal with a major retailer.

But unfortunately, Sonia's townhouse continued with its promise.

to be an expensive nightmare.

Take a look.

This would be our wedding final look, right?

We started the fashion line in 2014 and now we're going back to fashion week.

Who is this? He's a photographer.

He's a photographer.

He goes at the end of the runway.

It's nerve wracking.

Here we go.

Cute. Cute.

I would have worn that.

This is Sony by Sony morning.

It's a really great moment for me.

I got a $1 ,200 bill for like three days of water just running, running,

running. I am so stressed. I'm paying rent at my apartment at Columbus Circle.

I'm paying the overhead of the townhouse.

Elevator still broken?

Oh, my God. It probably runs me about $50 ,000 a month. So it's not a big deal

for most people who live in townhouses, but for me?

Hell yeah.

I said to Sonia, I haven't spoken to you for days.

You know, there's a certain sadness that lives within her, which I think is

still struggling with her past. And she has to work on it. I feel like I've

really developed a great relationship with Sonia, but I still feel like

just something she's not communicating.

I hide when I go through something. I only call you when I'm feeling great and

have great stuff to tell you. I hide. We worry about you, that's for sure.

These are the bottom lines.

Yeah, show the bottom lines. First year, we lost five months.

Okay. Second year, we had nothing, zero.

Did we get more sales from the fashion show?

No, no, we did not.

I know that in fashion, many times you do have losses up front, obviously.

is a future, though.

So we want to do something special.

Downtown, our flagship, over 200 ,000 square feet of store.

On top of that, we want to also carry this in the Herald Square store.

I'm trying to be so serious in this meeting, but inside, I'm dying.

ever doubted me before i don't have to be right and i never say i told you so

but it still feels good congratulations

sonia i still have to pinch myself as i said because it's been such a long haul

and actually an overhaul of so many things and myself this whole time so

feel good where i'm sitting i've been in the fashion business for years and the

fact that sonia was in two major retail stores of century 21 front and center

are you kidding me it's all about placement honey that says it all I was

proud of her when I walked in to finally see it living on the floor and looking

good. I actually bought one of her dresses.

You girls have been there for me every step of the way. I thought it was so

having sat here with you for so many years and the toaster line didn't come

fruition.

When does the toaster come out? You saw the toaster, and it has my signature on

it. When does it come out?

I have it. It's ready to go.

But it's part of a whole collection. The tongs, the mitts, the aprons, and I

needed a hang tag for each thing.

You had the women all over you for various cheater brands.

I think it's kind of a fluke that, you know, tipsy girl and skinny girl. Oh,

think it's both drinks?

I think you're a fraud, and I don't want anything to do with you. So it would be

a great way for me to get ahead.

Products that never launch.

The Nigerian football team. The hang tags. The hang tags.

I get hundreds of emails all the time. People saying they would like me to do a

jewelry. They'd like me to do a wine out of a can.

But I have to meditate.

I would like to do my abundance candle like that. To look at all the

opportunities that come my way.

And here you are. You're in a store.

And it must feel very satisfying.

It is satisfying, and I know my daughter's very proud of me, and I

her, these are not mistakes, these are experiences, and I've made many

connections in the business, so eyes are on me.

Well, so how has the pandemic affected everything?

I mean - Well, retail online is up 117%, and everything that I had online is

sold out. Well, that's a great thing.

It's tough retail, very tough. Well, I think that right now, the cashmere suit

that you wanted me to wear to your party? Terrible. You look like a

terrible, terrible.

Not for here.

No, no, no.

Anything that looks like that right now is going to be selling the F out because

no one's wearing dresses right now. I got to ask about the townhouse. What's

price now?

It was 10 .75.

I'm putting it down to 8 .5. How many square feet is it? It's 4 ,800 square

feet. Wow. Two gardens and a balcony. And it's a great townhouse. Great

location. I have one request. Before you sell it, can I please come see it? Yes.

And step inside? I would like to come see it. I've never.

You want a party.

It's like history.

I want to come see it. Why doesn't Briar Bowl rent it? We'll all just film

there. Everyone can live there. That's the next season. Yeah.

Sonia, any prospects for men?

Dating, basically, I wasn't getting laid. I was so focused on my daughter.

she's a sophomore in an Ivy League school, so guess what?

It's time for Mom to get something.

All right. Just give me a little of what you're getting. Okay.

Ladies. Give me what you want to get. Now you're open for business.

And you look hot.

Yeah. I need another five pounds off.

Oh, I don't know about that. Okay, Andy.

Coming up.

I love you. Why are you doing this?

Welcome back to the Real Housewives of New York City reunion.

I'm Andy Cohen.

A wise woman once said, I made it nice.

But this season, as Dorinda's temper flared and anger arose, it was clear

nice wasn't always on the table. Take a look.

You know, I'm trying to get everything done, and I'm stressed out all the time.

Bluestone Manor flooded, so I had to go through the house and just rip out the

whole heating system, the whole electrical system, and I'm so

There's nothing carefree about me anymore.

I'm not nice to anybody.

I am scared every day.

Of what?

Hannah's very dependent on me, so John's very dependent on me. I'm always

running the show.

It's not that I can't lean on John.

That's odd.

But you remember, John has never had responsibilities like this.

Dorinda missed having Richard or having a partner to help her in the Berkshire.

Hands -on guy.

What can I say? John doesn't take care of her. I mean, she has to take care of

John for goodness sakes.

You know this word?

You like people's misfortune. You like to deflect from you to make people feel

bad. That's not true.

Do you think it's nice when you have a good girlfriend and when they don't like

something, they say right away, are you drunk?

At this point, I kind of feel bad for Ramona. You drunken fool. You have a mug

shot of your drunkenness.

Was I aggressive? Yes.

Do I regret it?

Nope. She's judging you on your drinking and you on your piss. Judging me on my

drinking? I didn't go to jail. I don't mind probation. I don't break probation.

That's not very nice of you.

Don't you bring it up. I'm bringing up what she said.

Every time you bring up something with her, she deflects. And all of a sudden,

it's your fault. We want to help you. Don't you understand?

There's no problem here. We want to help you. You're not getting it. There's no

upsetting that you won't listen.

She's going through pain. And rather than feel it, she's projecting it. If

don't get that...

I'm not.

Stupid bitch.

All right. Jack from Minneapolis said, Dorinda, at the very beginning of the

season, you said to Sonia, there's nothing carefree about me. I'm not nice

anybody anymore.

And then you proceeded to prove it. Looking back, do you think you ended the

season in a better place than you started?

I think that I was more overwhelmed this season than I've ever been. And I don't

think I reached out for help enough.

between the house and John and then I had to go and break my rib and Lucy

and then filming and I couldn't catch a break and I just didn't want to be there

and I was angry. I was really angry about what was happening about it and I

definitely projected it and I did feel like I couldn't cope with it. I really

did. I was at my width end. I think the thing that made me really sad and

probably the most upset is that I didn't, you know, I know you so well,

and you're right. I was angry and I was struggling and I really felt like you

made it worse.

And you never called me once outside the show. You never took me to dinner. All

you did was remind me the whole time.

And you, as much as you didn't like John and stuff, it was mine to go through.

Ramona, put that away. And I needed you to do it.

I... When's the show ended? I texted you every day. Here's text. And the show

ended. Ended. I didn't want it when it ended. I was there when the show ended.

I went through it. You were fine? Yes, I was.

The show ended. I got through it. I moved into my place.

and she wanted to continue it. I needed her to pull me aside, not constantly in

front of people, hammer me. Do you think you were in a place to hear it from

her? Yes, Sonya helped me with it.

Sonya would, I would cry to Sonya at night, and I think I cried to you quite

bit. A person I just met, I had to show. Well let me ask you this, when Lou

tried to talk to you, you weren't open to it.

You can be angry at people without going crazy on them. I will not sit here and

listen to this because I think it's ridiculous. After everything that I've

with you. And if you live in the past, you go nowhere. I don't live in the

I love who I am. You know who you are. I love who you are too, but I don't like

it when you're angry.

Great, I'm good.

Thank you so much.

Well, Lou I feel bad about.

I felt Lou was coming from a good place. I really did, and I'm sorry about that,

Lou, because I love you.

Ramona, I felt like she was just waiting.

And you felt that too, didn't you? Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, it's just that you seem like it's coming from a genuine... Back at the

orchard, when you first broke up with John, I realized how much pain you were

then. Because you weren't even admitting. I was like, wow. I think I

saying this to you. I was like, you guys were together for so long.

Now you're broken up. Like, you must be in, like, what's going on? Oh my God, it

was terrible. I know, I'm sure. But like, we didn't get to see that, you

But this is interesting to me because you do hold Tinsley to a standard of she

needs to do it all on the show.

I did do it all on the show. And now you're saying that you didn't show it on

the show and that you wanted her to contact you. Hold on, but you say you

Ramona to contact you.

Off the show. I wanted Ramona to call me and just say this.

Are you okay?

Or on the show. I love you.

I'm here for you.

Ramona. Once Tinsley left the show.

then Dorinda made me her punching bag. I'm sorry you did.

And basically what happened was she came to my home for cocktails and

conversation and it was really upsetting. She said some very hurtful

I love you. She wants to put people down all the time. I love you. So basically

Dorinda doesn't know how to say.

Can we let it go?

I'm sorry what happened. So during the day, the next day, which I loved and I

appreciate, she goes, you know what? I made you a playlist, like the old day

tapes. This was the day after she on me and like made me feel terrible and cry

at my apartment. But that's her way of saying it was a cry for help. We were

both hurt. Fine. So I'm like, fine. Then the next time was at the Halloween

party. She was terrible to me. And she wrote Ramona, I don't like fighting and

we need to get past this. So we continue possibly XO. Let's have fun next. I go,

I love you, Dorinda. There's nothing I would not do for you. You scammed us.

scammed us. She's explaining herself. I love you, too.

Can I finish? I asked you. You did your thing. She's responding to you. No. I'm

not going to listen to that guy. I want my texts out. I want her to be present.

It's one -sided.

Five months.

So basically, for the Halloween party, I'm done with it. Okay, so she doesn't

want to hear you respond. Dorinda, stop. Stop it. She used us to get a free

party. Stop. She dragged us. That's what she did the whole season.

Use people.

No, you didn't. No, you didn't. I love you. Why are you doing

this?

Stop. Sonia said stop. She used us the whole season.

Use people. No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

Five months.

Five months. I love you. Why are you doing this? Don't throw things in front

me. It's so low class, like everything. I know.

It's low. You are. Because you know what? Can I say something?

I care about you.

I care about you. Okay, I would like to hear it. Lou.

Lou, what do you think? Yes, Lou.

Lou. What do you have to say? That trip to the Berkshires was, you know.

Obviously, we drank too much, and you said some very hurtful things to me.

you said very hurtful things to Sonia. What? Listen, it doesn't give you an

excuse to say what you said to me because of Sonia. You're correct.

So that doesn't make sense. Okay, that's not even the worst. The worst was also

in Mexico, where you brought it up yet again.

I know you don't mean it, but I want you to recognize how hurtful that is. She

does. And then...

You know, to make matters worse, then you go on Andy's Watch What Happens Live

and you talk about it. And Andy asks you point blank, do you regret what you

said to Luann? And you said no.

So I was like, oh my God.

Does she have no remorse for the way you behave towards me?

And that was wrong. Don't you look at yourself and go, oh my God, I can't

believe I said that to Lou.

And that, yes, and that was wrong. And I want to definitely go back to where we

were when we first met because we had such a great love affair. I know, but if

you're harboring these thoughts when you drink and it comes out, it's like, holy

shit. Would you pick these up?

I would, but I'm allowed to get that close. I'm not feeling the love. But you

can read them.

Andy, you can look at them later.

Dorinda says you are compassionate to her. If she doesn't feel Ramona, it's

compassionate. And I want to work on that.

I really do, because I think you and I... Well, I mean, I want you to work on

the fact that, you know, you are holding these resentments towards me. I really

am not.

I can't change that for you. Dorinda, I mean, there must be some resentment or

something. You have brought up the arrest and the mugshot and the Giovanni

thing. Well, I find it... Well, the Giovanni thing I'll always bring up,

No, I'm kidding you. I hope not.

The arrest, I find it interesting that Lou wants to lecture me when, you know,

it's between Ramona and I and she steps in and lectures me when we're in such a

good place. And that makes me angry. No, it wasn't about Ramona at all. It was

about what you said to me and owning that and saying, you know what, Lou, I

should have never said those things. And I don't feel from you that you are,

that you really mean it. How can you look at yourself on the show and say,

shit, I need to change.

Well, I do, with you. With her, I don't. Lou, I want to work on that. I care for

you and I love you. We don't understand what's going on. And I know you have the

best intentions for me. Why do you have so much anger? I really, really do. This

isn't a hell of a thing for Ramona. This isn't a way to act.

Well, let me ask you this. Look, you were on the Mexico trip. You were on the

other side of hearing the women say that they wanted to talk to Dorinda. You

were no help. You've seen her go after Lillian. Why are you mad at me? This is

serious issue. You're not getting it. I know, and they were trying to get...

Well, also, like, Dorinda's always been super cool to me, and I haven't had

any... Right. So, looking at it as a friend of Dorinda, who she's been very

and inclusive and whatever, what's your reaction to this?

With Dorinda? And I'm not trying to just make excuses for her bad behavior or

whatever, but... Oh, so you admit there's bad behavior.

You should not. Hold on. We all admit that it's anger and not good and

I would kind of, like, rather deal with someone that... has anger issues, then

deal with someone that says horrific things like Ramona has.

Because I don't think Dorinda hits below the belt.

What? I know you do. She goes below the belt with me. What? She makes a blog.

Are you kidding me? Are you on the same show as us?

I'm not excusing Ramona's behavior at all. Right. But you can't say, to look

me and say what Dorinda said to me is not below the belt. I'm sorry, you need

think about that. No, you're talking about Ramona, mainly. That was below the

belt. I agree, that is. That was below the belt. Okay.

I have a bunch of questions. Larry from Richmond, Virginia said, ladies, I'm not

sure I heard a single sincere apology from Dorinda this season, but I did hear

lot of defensive retorts meant to shut you down. I'd like to know if any of you

have any theories as to why Dorinda is as defensive as she is. I think because

was in a lot of pain.

Do you think you were defensive? Yes. I felt very wounded, weak, vulnerable.

Like I said at the winery, I felt like I was really like a toothpick in an ocean

with no help.

Can I say something?

It's out of love. All we wanted you to say was like, oh my God. I couldn't,

Ramona. I was in such a, you're not listening to me.

But that's all we needed. I couldn't, Ramona. I was in such a damaged place. I

actually needed someone to, I mean, literally to tell you the truth.

I probably should have taken off this season. It probably was too much. I

I told you that. I was like on the verge of a nervous breakdown. And you were

crying a lot. I know you were crying. I want to talk about the anger

intervention that happened at lunch in Mexico.

That was ridiculous. Seeing how it all unfolded, it doesn't seem like you

the right moment there.

No. My daughter was on the phone, not doing an invite that you could do in the

other room. It's my daughter. You came and sat down with us. We were already

working. I'm off. You blow up and you get really angry. Right now you're

Don't even start that. You're angry now. No, I got to go congratulate my

daughter on her success.

But I can't do it in front of people that she thinks are offending against

I take it so hard.

I'm not interested.

It was just another opportunity for her to poke the bear.

Hannah's calling me about the Bloom Award she got, and right away she was

to use that again. Even though I did think it was overboard for Dorinda to

me and Sonia to get off of our laptop and whatever that morning, it's still

different than a daughter calling.

Like, it's a different thing. Yeah, but you just get up and you remember. Then

you leave the table. So to make it, that's all I'm saying is that it doesn't

up. Then you leave the table. No, but you turned it into a bigger thing

you couldn't help yourself. You flew off the handle. You know, it's kind of

ironic how the season ended given how great pals you and Dorinda were.

It was a comment you made at Drag Queen Bingo that really set Dorinda off. What

was going through your mind when that happened?

Oh, whoa. I was kind of shocked.

Which the lamb wasn't.

I was bummed because I was about to give them props and tell them that, you

know, I loved them and appreciated them and had a great time with them.

But obviously that word Tinsley just set it off. But we did talk. I mean,

Dorinda called me the next morning and was very upset and apologized to me. Why

did the mere mention of Tinsley's name? Well, I think that it wasn't authentic.

I thought it was. What, like me saying it? No, I just thought it was like she

wasn't there.

I thought we did such a great job as a group after she left halfway through the

season. I was surprised we were going back to that. But I wanted to give her,

wanted to mention Tinsley because Tinsley was an important person to me in

of you guys, too. Yeah, and that's why I called you the next morning. Right.

Henry from Athens, Georgia said, Dorinda, I'm one of your biggest fans

your debut on the show. I'm begging you to hear this.

it's okay to admit that you're wrong sometimes.

Looking back at this season, can you give any examples of times that you

you may have been wrong?

Definitely with Luann, 100%. I feel very bad about that and I feel bad about the

thing.

with you, Leah, because that was wrong. We're in the finale, but we definitely

talked about it.

You know, I feel bad that Ramona and I couldn't come to terms this season,

because we have a 20 -year relationship, and we really do care for each other.

But I didn't feel like she had my back at all. The question is, how do you

reconcile it, do you think? Well, I think the way for Ramona and I to go

forward, if we want to continue our friendship, is to just not rehash it and

to...

start building our friendship again, if it's important to you. I just think it

is. You are important to me. I love you, Dorinda. I think we're all in a reset.

I love you and I'll always love you. I don't care what you do to me, I'll still

love you. Like Elise?

You love her more than Elise. No, I love you and we've known each other 20

years. I don't care what you do to me, I'll always love you. So it's important

for us to work on that. You can try to kill me, I'll still love you. She's

that thing where she looks in your eyes and she like... I really would like to

try. I would like desperately. I'm not sure we're gonna do it, but I think it

would be worth a try after 20 years.

Dorinda, look at me. Look at me. Can you please look at me? Yeah.

I want that and we will do it. All right. Well, that's it.

No, really. I mean, no, you can't touch each other.

OK, well, that's a great place to leave it. All right. Thank you. And, you know,

by the grace of God, I got through and hopefully, you know, 2021 will be a

better year for all and a happy year for all of us.

in a circle and it only goes back up you know no we don't want to we just want

to go off yeah all right let's leave it there we are going to take a break we'll

be back with final thoughts after that

welcome

back to the real housewives of new york city season 12 reunion ladies this

season has been another one for the books And the months that have followed

felt stranger than fiction. So before we end this chapter, I wanted to ask each

of you this.

We have all had a lot of time to reflect recently.

Looking back, which moment from this season would you like to socially

yourself from?

And which other housewife are you most looking forward to hugging when this is

all over? How about you, Ramona?

Leah? When I said something about your issues, mental issues.

Thank you. Should have been to you directly.

And Dorinda, I can't wait to give a big hug.

That's nice.

Thank God we got here.

I think obviously Luann, you know, because I really feel like I hurt her in

vulnerable place. And I'm really going to work on that.

I think as far as the hugging goes, I think it's just.

really unfair because I really look forward to hugging everyone.

I just miss hugging so much.

You're a hugger. I'm a big hugger.

She's a lover.

It's like food to me, so I want to hug y 'all. Lou?

Socially distance myself.

Let's see. Probably from, you know, that night in the Berkshires. It was just

ugly. And the way I behaved with Sonia and, you know, seeing myself like that

and angry.

I'd like to distance myself from that. And I agree with Dorinda. I'd love to

everybody. But I love you all.

Sonia? I think I've made it really clear this reunion I want to socially

distance myself from not having control of my prescription with my drinking.

And I really am very grateful to have the show to show me how I was behaving

because I didn't know. And I am grateful to Ramona. We do have a special

relationship where you can tell me something and you hold my hand and tell

you know, you need to look into it. So thank you for that. But as far as a hug,

I got to tell you, my girl Dorinda, for every time I called her and not wanting

her to know what was going wrong with me and what I was trying to handle, she

would share.

with me what was going on with her, and it just made me feel I wasn't alone.

I owe you so many big hugs. Thank you.

See that? You're a giver.

Dorinda's a giver, and that does bring anger.

No, that's true.

I think I would probably socially distance myself from the entire state of

Island.

Yeah. And honestly, surprisingly,

The person that I want to hug most is Ramona because my mommy issues are still

alive and well, apparently.

Well, I'm going to be more of a friend to you than a mother from now on, okay?

That'll probably work out a lot better. No, I think it will. Actually, it will.

Yeah. Wow.

All right. I actually feel like we accomplished some stuff tonight.

Thank you, doctor. Thank you for an incredible season.

I look forward to getting close enough to toast with you next year.

And in the meantime, stay safe, stay healthy. And I can't wait to hug all of

for the record. And thank you for a great season.

Thank you. Thanks, ladies.

We did it.

Is that good? Okay.

Hold on. Can I get a selfie with you guys? A socially distant selfie?

Is that going to work? Yeah, it will.

Come a little closer.

I'll send it all to you.

Okay.

Here we go.

Okay, this is good.

That's actually cute.

Ramona, can we go to the speakeasy after this?

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