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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,401 --> 00:00:03,937 (Music) 2 00:00:05,005 --> 00:00:09,009 The Ken Eaton murder 3 00:00:09,009 --> 00:00:11,311 Ken was a public school teacher 4 00:00:11,311 --> 00:00:15,282 And that was back in the day when you couldn't be a public school teacher and be gay. 5 00:00:17,017 --> 00:00:20,988 So he had to maintain a closet 6 00:00:20,988 --> 00:00:23,824 Nevertheless, he socialized a lot. 7 00:00:23,824 --> 00:00:26,426 Just a couple of months before he was murdered, 8 00:00:26,426 --> 00:00:31,932 I'm at a party and Ken is also there. At the time, I was 9 00:00:31,932 --> 00:00:35,802 Pretty prominent in terms of 10 00:00:35,802 --> 00:00:41,008 Being visibly gay in the city. The media had found me. 11 00:00:41,008 --> 00:00:45,012 And any news story came up, they'd come to me. 12 00:00:45,012 --> 00:00:49,016 Ken complimented me on stuff I had done for the community. 13 00:00:49,016 --> 00:00:53,020 Over the last few years before that, 14 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:57,024 And he told me, he said, “John, I can't be out 15 00:00:57,024 --> 00:01:01,028 And keep my job so there's really nothing I can do 16 00:01:01,028 --> 00:01:03,697 To help the community,” he said. 17 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:09,069 "But do know that if there's ever anything I can do to make a difference, 18 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:13,073 I'll do that.” 19 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:17,077 About two months later, he was murdered. 20 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:20,247 And um.. 21 00:01:20,247 --> 00:01:25,052 Everybody was looking for a motive. 22 00:01:25,052 --> 00:01:26,687 (Dance Music) 23 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:47,574 The police found out, of course, 24 00:01:47,574 --> 00:01:53,080 And they couldn't make heads or tails out of who was this, who would have killed him, how did this happen? 25 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,515 Nobody could put it together. 26 00:01:55,515 --> 00:02:01,088 There was a whole series of coincidences that occurred that was just bizarre. 27 00:02:01,088 --> 00:02:04,191 The first thing is they found a list of 28 00:02:04,191 --> 00:02:09,129 Gay people in a gay organization called the Gay Coalition of Iowa. 29 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:13,133 My name was on that list too, and it was the first time 30 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:17,137 They actually published a list that would give your address and phone number. 31 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:20,741 Because everybody felt at this time good enough 32 00:02:20,741 --> 00:02:24,711 And trusting enough that everybody could find those things out. 33 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:28,448 But he had three names marked with stars, 34 00:02:28,448 --> 00:02:31,385 And they just knew that was a sex club. 35 00:02:31,385 --> 00:02:35,389 Nobody would break the news that this was a gay man. 36 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:41,128 His daughter wasn't willing to say that, his family wasn't willing to say that, 37 00:02:41,128 --> 00:02:45,132 Nobody in the media would say that, and finally a reporter from the Des Moines register 38 00:02:45,132 --> 00:02:49,136 Got to me, and 39 00:02:49,136 --> 00:02:53,140 I thought about Ken and I thought, you know, he told me 40 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:57,144 If there is ever anything he could do 41 00:02:57,144 --> 00:02:59,146 To make a difference, he'd do it. 42 00:02:59,146 --> 00:03:05,185 And I thought to myself, you know, Ken? There is something you can do now. You can let me out you. 43 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:09,189 So that this becomes the story. 44 00:03:09,189 --> 00:03:10,857 That it should be. 45 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:16,363 And so I did - I told the Des Moines Register that this was a gay man and this was a gay homicide. 46 00:03:16,363 --> 00:03:21,201 And I think it changed the direction of the investigation. 47 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:25,205 So they went down to the gay loop, 48 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:29,209 And they eventually found the two men who had done that. 49 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:33,213 And I think it was breaking 50 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:35,382 The news that this was a gay murder, 51 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:39,352 Changed that whole investigation. 52 00:03:39,352 --> 00:03:43,890 One day, a garbage man was out unloading the dumpsters, 53 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:47,894 But he went to an apartment and he couldn't get to the dumpster. 54 00:03:49,196 --> 00:03:53,200 So the first coincidence is, there were two cars parked in front of the dumpsters. 55 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,236 Usually you're not allowed to park in front of dumpsters, right? 56 00:03:56,236 --> 00:04:00,240 And then the second coincidence - the guy decides he'll get out of 57 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,312 The dump truck, and he will go over to see if there's anything in the dumpster. 58 00:04:05,312 --> 00:04:09,316 When he looked in the dumpster, he found 59 00:04:09,316 --> 00:04:12,419 A bunch of bloody clothes along with some stereo equipment. 60 00:04:12,419 --> 00:04:14,688 He thought, “This is really bizarre.” 61 00:04:14,688 --> 00:04:19,759 So he called the police. The police put two and two together, and figured out 62 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:24,397 When the contacted these guys' girlfriends, they gave them all up. 63 00:04:24,397 --> 00:04:28,368 They knew everything that had happened, and I believe they're still in jail to this day. 64 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:33,273 But that really shook this community. 65 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:36,510 First of all, because he was such a well-loved 66 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:40,447 English teacher at Brody Middle School. 67 00:04:40,447 --> 00:04:44,050 And I remember even the person I go to that cuts my hair 68 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:46,520 He cut his hair too. 69 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,725 And she said the whole place was just devastated. 70 00:04:51,725 --> 00:04:55,695 There were gay bashings happening in the city. 71 00:04:55,695 --> 00:04:59,699 The Des Moines Police Department was not nearly as friendly 72 00:05:00,367 --> 00:05:02,302 Towards us as they are now. 73 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:08,208 There was a time period where, to be in a bar that was frequented by homosexuals 74 00:05:08,208 --> 00:05:13,380 Was considered - you were considered visiting 75 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:15,982 A house of ill repute. And they could come in and arrest you 76 00:05:15,982 --> 00:05:21,321 For being in a place where that had homosexuals. Now how they would determine that, I'm not quite sure. 77 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:23,557 But people didn't question it. 78 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:26,993 And at that time, then of course the Register, or the paper, 79 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:30,964 Would print this person was arrested being 80 00:05:30,964 --> 00:05:34,935 In a house of ill repute with homosexuals the next day. 81 00:05:34,935 --> 00:05:38,305 And that would cause people to lose their jobs, 82 00:05:38,305 --> 00:05:42,943 And it broke up marriages, 83 00:05:42,943 --> 00:05:46,913 And some people committed suicide from it. 84 00:05:47,914 --> 00:05:53,320 So I think people honed in on 85 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,324 The sexual part 86 00:05:57,324 --> 00:06:01,328 And also, where else did we have to go? 87 00:06:01,328 --> 00:06:02,762 (Dance music) 88 00:06:02,762 --> 00:06:08,501 By now, City Disco and the idea of disco was really grabbing 89 00:06:08,501 --> 00:06:12,472 Des Moines, and Chuck Brooks had created a bar 90 00:06:12,472 --> 00:06:14,107 Called The Des Moines City Disco Park. 91 00:06:14,107 --> 00:06:19,813 It was a second floor establishment, and the nice thing about it is 92 00:06:19,813 --> 00:06:24,150 The dance floor had lights in the bottom of it. 93 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:28,121 That was a happening place back then. I'd never seen anything like it. 94 00:06:28,121 --> 00:06:32,726 So, we had a lot of fun, and we had about 600 people there 95 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:35,228 Every night at City Disco. 96 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:40,700 And they had people from Kansas City coming up here, and they couldn't believe how 97 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:44,671 Des Moines had something like this. 98 00:06:44,671 --> 00:06:49,409 The first bar I went into was at 4th and Court Avenue in Downtown Des Moines 99 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:51,411 It was called the Country Cove. 100 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:55,382 It had been a straight bar called The Cove, 101 00:06:55,382 --> 00:07:01,388 There was a great big sign with the word “COVE” running up and down, so in order to make it a gay bar, 102 00:07:01,388 --> 00:07:03,990 They just added the word “country” in front of it and that's all she wrote. 103 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,192 The leather bars 104 00:07:06,192 --> 00:07:13,500 And the bath houses of the 70s and 80s 105 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:17,504 They were highly sexually energized. 106 00:07:17,504 --> 00:07:21,508 A little bit of everything happened in the bars. 107 00:07:21,508 --> 00:07:22,409 Maybe the main floor, 108 00:07:23,476 --> 00:07:28,448 Which would be a bar much like any other bar, but maybe they would have a back room or a basement 109 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:32,385 Where clothing was optional. 110 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:37,457 Or they'd have a cell set up 111 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:40,560 It's a true story that one of the bar owners 112 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,530 Would find out about a gay party, and would call the 113 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:47,467 Police and rat on the gay party. 114 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:53,039 The police would come in and arrest everybody at the party and take them in to jail for the night. 115 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:56,376 And the next morning, this bar owner would show up 116 00:07:56,376 --> 00:08:00,313 And bail all of her own customers out of jail. 117 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:04,317 You want me to say? Her name was Marlys Watson. May she rest in peace. 118 00:08:05,552 --> 00:08:09,556 But the bar owners did not 119 00:08:09,556 --> 00:08:11,624 Necessarily act appropriately 120 00:08:11,624 --> 00:08:14,494 When a bar was going under, suddenly it was burning down too. 121 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:19,499 Something happened at the City Disco which was unusual. 122 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:22,602 People that were gay would invite their straight friends, 123 00:08:22,602 --> 00:08:27,640 And I remember dancing on the floor one time and looking over, and there's like eight people 124 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:33,012 Just sitting like this, just watching us dance as if we were freaks. 125 00:08:33,012 --> 00:08:37,584 And I thought, I'm not coming back here anymore. 126 00:08:37,584 --> 00:08:40,286 And I think a lot of other people felt the same way, 127 00:08:40,286 --> 00:08:43,423 And pretty soon City Disco was having problems. 128 00:08:43,423 --> 00:08:46,493 And then there was a fire. 129 00:08:46,493 --> 00:08:52,132 This was the second or third time that there was a fire at a bar. 130 00:08:52,132 --> 00:08:55,301 And it was beginning to look a little unusual. 131 00:08:59,272 --> 00:09:02,475 Chuck was a tall, trim man with 132 00:09:02,475 --> 00:09:07,781 Kind of a pencil mustache. He was not unattractive, 133 00:09:07,781 --> 00:09:12,051 But his biggest quality was he was arrogant. 134 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:16,055 Yes. 135 00:09:19,692 --> 00:09:21,828 Well, I even went home with him one night. 136 00:09:21,828 --> 00:09:27,801 I had the hots for Chuck, and Chuck had the hots for someone else, and that someone else had the hots for me. 137 00:09:29,636 --> 00:09:32,238 And so, eventually it worked into a three way. 138 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:36,209 However, the third in that triangle may have burned a bar or two. 139 00:09:37,644 --> 00:09:40,513 I had a good time with him. I lived with Chuck for quite a while, 140 00:09:40,513 --> 00:09:42,916 And Larry and his lover. 141 00:09:42,916 --> 00:09:48,488 And then they met some woman, they got married in London. 142 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:52,692 Well, as a person I liked him, until I got to know him. 143 00:09:52,692 --> 00:09:56,663 And he was a conniving, cheating, sonofabitch 144 00:09:56,663 --> 00:10:00,700 And then if he was having a real bad run of things, or whatever, 145 00:10:01,668 --> 00:10:03,570 It mysteriously burned. 146 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:06,773 But he was always out of town. 147 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:10,777 He had somebody else do the work. Hmm. 148 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:19,419 I know who done it, but when three bars by one bar owner 149 00:10:19,419 --> 00:10:23,423 Tend to burn, then I think you've got a problem. 150 00:10:23,423 --> 00:10:28,061 That's one that we heard, that Marlys had paid him to 151 00:10:28,061 --> 00:10:30,630 Torch the Cove, see. 152 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:34,634 And what it was, we got torched. 153 00:10:37,604 --> 00:10:40,240 I think Marlys had something to do, 154 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,210 Cause we were, Country Cove, was busy place. 155 00:10:44,777 --> 00:10:46,646 Really busy, you know, 156 00:10:46,646 --> 00:10:48,982 And Marlys didn't like it. 157 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:55,722 The P S Lounge had a fire. The Country Cove eventually burned, the one I worked at, 158 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:59,893 And then again it didn't burn down, it reopened as The Barn Door. 159 00:10:59,893 --> 00:11:02,829 That's at least three, and I know there's a fourth one. 160 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:08,167 I was one of Chuck's best friends all of a sudden, and we played cards together. 161 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:11,571 We played poker together all the time. I'd known him for years, 162 00:11:11,571 --> 00:11:18,144 But he started doing crack and stuff like that. 163 00:11:18,144 --> 00:11:20,280 And that wasn't my thing. 164 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,250 The I could see that when we opened up 165 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:27,086 The Barbell 166 00:11:27,086 --> 00:11:31,457 I didn't realize that Chuck 167 00:11:31,457 --> 00:11:36,663 Was dealing in crystal meth. 168 00:11:36,663 --> 00:11:39,532 I didn't know that, see, which closed our bar. 169 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:41,734 Because of that. 170 00:11:41,734 --> 00:11:48,141 I thought, here we have AIDS, you're bringing this shit to my people, trying to kill them, and you don't care. 171 00:11:48,141 --> 00:11:51,778 This was not Chuck Brooks' finest moment, 172 00:11:51,778 --> 00:11:55,782 But he had just brought a shipment “ice”, I believe it was from Chicago, 173 00:11:55,782 --> 00:11:59,485 I'm not really sure where he was bringing it in from, 174 00:11:59,485 --> 00:12:03,489 But he drove his car up on the curb in front of his bar, 175 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:09,729 The Barbell Athletic Club, and left the trunk open, 176 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:12,131 And went inside. The police came by with the trunk open, 177 00:12:12,131 --> 00:12:15,301 Full of methamphetamines, sitting up on the curb, 178 00:12:15,301 --> 00:12:17,804 And he was very quickly arrested. 179 00:12:17,804 --> 00:12:21,474 He had taken all of his possessions, and had put them in 180 00:12:21,474 --> 00:12:26,813 The building next door - I think he was kind of living in there, 181 00:12:26,813 --> 00:12:31,851 And yes, the car with the Cadillac was on 182 00:12:31,851 --> 00:12:33,753 The sidewalk. 183 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:39,359 But all of those fires stopped after 1980. 184 00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:49,736 Because that's when Chuck owned his bars. 185 00:12:49,736 --> 00:12:52,405 Sorry. See I wasn't really talking to Chuck then, see. 186 00:12:52,405 --> 00:12:56,409 He kind of pissed me off and I'd given him some money, 187 00:12:56,409 --> 00:12:59,679 And I had never got anything back from him. 188 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,248 He paid everybody else off, but didn't pay me, see, 189 00:13:02,248 --> 00:13:05,852 So that ended our friendship. 190 00:13:09,856 --> 00:13:13,226 I opened this, I thought, no I ain't gonna be like that. 191 00:13:13,226 --> 00:13:16,062 I'm gonna go for my people and my community first. 192 00:13:16,062 --> 00:13:19,732 Now the East Village is a vibrant 193 00:13:19,732 --> 00:13:23,703 It wasn't back then. It was kind of a rough place. 194 00:13:23,703 --> 00:13:27,640 I never really saw prostitution or anything 195 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,308 Going on. 196 00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:34,480 It's like there's this surplus store, there's these abandoned buildings. 197 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,651 It's the kind of place you'd come to buy your pot. 198 00:13:38,651 --> 00:13:45,792 It stuck out, it was painted this dark purple, but it had huge bars on the windows. 199 00:13:45,792 --> 00:13:46,859 It was crazy. 200 00:13:46,859 --> 00:13:49,796 All black windows, so you couldn't really see in. 201 00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:55,635 I would see some guys walking in and out, and some of them were just, you know, like, intimidating. 202 00:13:55,635 --> 00:13:59,772 Or you'd walk in and everybody would rubberneck around, and you're like, “Ooh." 203 00:13:59,772 --> 00:14:04,677 It kind of creeped you out a little bit, and then they'd go back to whatever they were doing. 204 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:08,681 All these leather dudes were just piled up right in a row down the whole thing, 205 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:11,150 And I'm like, “Yike.” 206 00:14:11,150 --> 00:14:14,454 The whole idea behind leather, it's a statement. 207 00:14:14,454 --> 00:14:19,826 Well, leather can be taken many, many ways. It can be very, very hard, 208 00:14:19,826 --> 00:14:25,865 As SMBD - been there done that - 209 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:32,472 Or it can be taken softly. But it was a very big part of 210 00:14:32,472 --> 00:14:34,207 The Saddle when we started. 211 00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:39,178 It was really kind of tacky. I mean, the ice machine was there, 212 00:14:39,178 --> 00:14:44,550 There was a stereo system on top of the ice machine that was the DJ booth, 213 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:48,187 The tables were yellow formica tables, 214 00:14:48,187 --> 00:14:51,390 It was nothing special. 215 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:54,894 Now, we used to have the bar on this side. It was all wooden floor, 216 00:14:54,894 --> 00:14:59,232 And I'd polish the shit and then put all the varnishes on it, 217 00:14:59,232 --> 00:15:03,302 But you could never make it look good all the time. 218 00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:06,572 We were trying to find a name. 219 00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:11,978 I was gonna call it The Albatross - the bird that hangs around my neck. 220 00:15:11,978 --> 00:15:17,884 Somebody said, well you should nickname it. And I said, “Call it Mongo's?” 221 00:15:17,884 --> 00:15:24,090 “No, Blazing Saddle!” Mongo like that idea, so there it went. 222 00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:28,060 I can remember the bartender that when he waited on me 223 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:33,933 Was just dressed to the nines. 224 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:36,536 He was - the jewelry, the whole thing, 225 00:15:36,536 --> 00:15:41,941 It was like, OK that's what I want to be. That's what I want to do. It was Gary Moore. 226 00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:45,945 Gary was on the other end - bigger than life. 227 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,848 Bigger than life and had a boa on. So I went right up to him. 228 00:15:48,848 --> 00:15:50,783 Right off he knew that I as new. 229 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,619 When I started working there, the back bar 230 00:15:53,619 --> 00:15:58,758 Was cement blocks with boards on it to put the booze on. 231 00:15:58,758 --> 00:16:03,229 He let me kind of play with things. The back bar that's there, 232 00:16:03,229 --> 00:16:05,131 I designed and had built. 233 00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:12,238 Everything was a double. People loved that. That was a great marketing idea. 234 00:16:12,238 --> 00:16:17,777 Every person at the bar was gay, and you looked around and you go, 235 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:26,052 “Smorgasbord” It's like so many men, so little time. 236 00:16:26,052 --> 00:16:29,989 I had only been going there about a week 237 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,425 And then I ran into - I sat down at the bar - 238 00:16:32,425 --> 00:16:36,262 And I was waiting for friends to show up, so I was drinking 239 00:16:36,262 --> 00:16:38,898 My cocktail there at the bar, 240 00:16:38,898 --> 00:16:44,437 And I didn't realize that lo and behold I was sitting next to the owner, Bob, Mongo. 241 00:16:44,437 --> 00:16:50,009 Good ol' Mongo. I was sitting next to him. And so we just started talking, 242 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,011 He was a character. He just cracked me up. 243 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,981 And he had such great stories. He was a Vietnam vet, you know. 244 00:16:54,981 --> 00:16:58,951 I mean, he was a man. I just felt like I was a regular. 245 00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:04,790 Part of being a bar owner is being a showman. Ringling Brothers or something. 246 00:17:04,790 --> 00:17:08,427 Because you get so many different types of people, 247 00:17:08,427 --> 00:17:12,365 And attitudes, and everything else. You've gotta adapt 248 00:17:12,365 --> 00:17:14,667 And figure out where they're coming from. 249 00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:19,538 Not exactly what you would probably picture as a bar owner. 250 00:17:19,538 --> 00:17:24,477 It wasn't like he was dressed to the nines because he owned a gay bar. 251 00:17:24,477 --> 00:17:27,713 It was like, nope - work boots, work shirt, BOB. 252 00:17:27,713 --> 00:17:31,684 It said “Bob” right on his shirt. Bob is kind of a jack of all trades. 253 00:17:31,684 --> 00:17:34,854 And a master of none. 254 00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:38,391 The first time I ever heard about Bob, 255 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:43,663 My friend Morris - my queen mother - had Bob 256 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:48,000 Reroof his house. Bob can do anything. 257 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,037 Just ask him, you know? 258 00:17:51,037 --> 00:17:55,007 When you roof a house, you take a knife and you cut the 259 00:17:55,007 --> 00:17:58,744 Shingles off on the edge with a nice straight line. 260 00:17:58,744 --> 00:18:04,083 Well, Bob had dropped his knife or something and had decided 261 00:18:04,583 --> 00:18:07,720 He'd just tear them off. Yeah. 262 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,691 Morris had this new roof that looked like shit. 263 00:18:11,691 --> 00:18:15,828 That's the first time I heard about Bob. 264 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:17,897 Bob was like Dad 265 00:18:17,897 --> 00:18:21,200 To like 90% of this crowd. 266 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,238 I never wanted to be some living legend, 267 00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:31,544 I'm just trying to be one of the guys, you know? I get no respect. 268 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:37,583 Every Thanksgiving and Christmas, 269 00:18:37,583 --> 00:18:44,757 I'd bring a big spread down here. Anybody could come in and eat for free. 270 00:18:44,757 --> 00:18:48,728 One time there was this whole 271 00:18:48,728 --> 00:18:52,231 Homeless guy walking down the street, and he kind of looked in, 272 00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:56,202 And I said, “Sir, have you eaten today?” And he said, “No.” 273 00:18:56,202 --> 00:18:59,105 I said, “You come on in. You don't have to buy a thing. Fill yourself up.” 274 00:18:59,105 --> 00:19:05,044 He said, “God bless you.” And I said, “No, God bless you.” “Why'd you let that bum in?” 275 00:19:05,044 --> 00:19:07,046 “Cause he was hungry.” 276 00:19:07,046 --> 00:19:10,950 It really meant something to me, and Mom used to get so mad at me. 277 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:16,555 “Why, you got your own family, come on over!” And I said, “Ive got a bigger family, Mother," 278 00:19:16,555 --> 00:19:20,059 “And the people need something”" Suicide rates among 279 00:19:20,059 --> 00:19:23,996 Gays and lesbians are higher during the holidays 280 00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:28,734 Simply because they've been kicked out of their homes, nobody loves them, 281 00:19:28,734 --> 00:19:32,071 And I said if I can show a little love and a good hot meal, 282 00:19:32,071 --> 00:19:36,008 There be it. 283 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:39,512 I remember starting to read 284 00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:43,482 Papers - short newspaper stories, never on a front page. 285 00:19:44,483 --> 00:19:48,454 About what they were calling a “gay cancer". 286 00:19:48,454 --> 00:19:50,122 Or a “gay plague”. 287 00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:56,629 Well, that's something that's happening in New York City or San Francisco, it's really not going to affect us here. 288 00:19:56,629 --> 00:20:00,132 AIDS had closed down most of those 289 00:20:00,132 --> 00:20:03,836 Highly sexualized environments - Bath houses closed. 290 00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:07,840 Back rooms closed. And people were dying. 291 00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:16,882 So that changed the gay scene 26343

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