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- Tonight on "the mproof is out there.".

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Do ufo's have a thing for wildfires?

- Ufo's enjoy frequenting sites

of great devastation, forest fires included.

- [Tony] How is the statue weeping?

- This seems to be an authentic case

of a miraculous weeping statue.

- [Tony] And how do you explain this other worldly image?

- It was just an eerie feeling I had looking at it.

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- [Tony] Around the globe are videos.

- [Female] What the heck is this?

- [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation.

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- [Man] Is it some kind of unidentified object?

- [Man] Plane that was literally frozen in the air?

- [Tony] What are they?

- [Man] Some sort of bizarre mutation.

- Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof.

- I'm Tony Harris and as a journalist

for more than 30 years,

I've followed the facts where they take me.

Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation

to the world's strangest sounds and images.

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We'll analyze each one with top experts.

- It's a credible case, it's a credible video.

- [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is.

- This video was clearly faked.

- The proof starts now.

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Hi everybody and welcome to "the proof is out there."

Let's solve some mysteries.

When local news choppers cover a breaking story

you never know what's going to happen next.

And in our first video,

what the chopper caught purely by chance

became a story of its own.

- [Pilot] Hey, we're gonna come over and take a look at it.

- [Reporter] Copy that.

- [Pilot] All right, this is a rapidly becoming very ugly.

- [Reporter] Yeah, it is.

- [Pilot] Yeah, this isn't looking good.

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- [Tony] In the past five years,

millions of acres of California

have been consumed by wildfires.

And in 2018 with the massive woolsey fire

menacing northern los Angeles county itself.

Local news choppers took to the air

to cover every smoky second.

- [Reporter] And then that provides a great deal of fuel

for these fires.

- [Tony] But when some viewers saw this footage

they forgot all about the flames.

- So the helicopter captures this massive cloud of smoke

billowing up from the forest.

And then all over a sudden out of the cloud

comes this odd little shape.

It's narrow, almost looks like a flat saucer on its side

or a cigar shape.

- [Tony] Journalist mj banias covers the unexplained.

And he says the cigar shaped ufo is a classic type

right up there with orbs, tic-tacs and triangles

- cigar shaped ufo's haven't been seen for decades,

if not centuries.

And we have lots of recordings of them.

We have lots of witness testimony of them.

We have lots of photographs of them.

So for the ufo community seeing a cigar shaped ufo,

it was pretty compelling.

- [Tony] The video caught fire online

was a ufo somehow drawn to the flames?

- There's a belief that ufo's use clouds as cover

and they hide behind them.

I've heard stories that ufo's can actually shape-shift

and look like clouds.

I've also heard that ufo's enjoy frequenting sites

of great devastation, forest fires included.

- Here's an interesting fact,

more than 80% of us forest fires are started

by human activity, from cigarettes to arson.

Could it be that ufo's

are somehow drawn to these large fires?

Let's break down the video with our experts.

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First off we know the video was real.

It was broadcast live by a news chopper.

And you can see from the independent motion of the object

that it's not just a smudge on the lens.

So could it have been an object from outer space

entering the earth's atmosphere?

We asked the video expert, Marc d'Antonio,

a trained astronomer.

- And sometimes meteors will come in.

And sometimes they hit the atmosphere at such a low angle

that they can't crack

and they just go skipping off the earth.

And as they do that, they start to burn up.

- [Tony] But the California ufo wasn't burning up

and science writer Mick west

who's lived through plenty of wildfires

says it couldn't be a plane.

- It didn't seem to have any of the features of the plane.

It had no visible wings and it seemed to be moving

either too slow or to be too big to be a plane.

- [Tony] Set on solving this puzzle

west starts by determining precisely

where the news chopper was.

- I looked up all the helicopters

in the flight radar of 24 tracking service

and tried to figure out where they all were at that time.

Then I went into Google earth

and I positioned the camera where these helicopters were

at around that time.

- [Tony] Using some satellite images of the fire

west is able to line up that image

with the chopper's exact camera angle.

- So I could tell that the chopper is over here

we're looking over here.

- [Tony] Then the Eureka moment.

- And you can see here we're looking down.

So it's all ocean.

- [Tony] That's right.

The sky is really the pacific ocean

and the cigar shaped ufo?

- What if it was a boat that's actually out on the ocean?

- [Tony] West checks the local shipping lanes

and sure enough.

- 50 miles off the coast is the route

that all the container ships take,

when they're going north and south

off the coast of California.

So what we were looking at was a container ship.

- The moral of the story check your assumptions.

That blue sky might turn out to be the blue ocean

and our verdict that ufo turned out to be

an unidentified floating object, a container ship.

Coming up don't believe in miracles?

We'll wait until you see this weeping statue.

- That makes this even weirder.

- When "the proof is out there" continues.

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- Christianity is full of miraculous tales.

Yet the catholic church has a very rigorous process

for determining if something is truly an act of god.

One case currently under consideration is

from the most unassuming of places,

a small congregation close to the us Mexican border.

Hobbs new Mexico parishioners were attending mass

at our lady of Guadalupe catholic church.

Toward the end of the service

people start to notice something strange happening

with the statue of the virgin Mary.

The worshipers get out their cell phones

and start recording.

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From the video it appears the statue is crying actual tears,

take a closer look at the cheek.

Many of those who see the video believe

this is a supernatural event.

And this is not the first time

something like this has happened.

Religious scholar Diana pasulka says

this tradition goes back for centuries.

- Mary is the mother of god and she's sad.

And sometimes she cries tears of oil

and sometimes she cried tears of blood.

These are relics basically thought to have divine power.

- But how do we know this isn't some hoax

meant to deceive the faithful?

It's time to ask the experts is this proof or not.

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We start with trained engineer

and catholic miracle researcher, Michael O'Neill.

- Many people gathered to witness this

on three different occasions of the statue

of the virgin Mary weeping real tears.

- [Tony] First question, did someone stage this?

- We looked for internal duct work

has something been installed inside the statue

or outside the statue that would place tears

on the eyes in a mechanical way.

And that was ruled out.

We also have to consider

somebody sneaking in at off hours

and putting droplets in the eyes and then

alerting everyone saying,

"see, we're looking at a weeping statue."

But we know that from the reports

that people were gathered around the statue

and saw the statue begin to weep tears.

So the tears began to form on their own

with witnesses around.

- [Tony] So O'Neill investigates

if perhaps the tears were caused by a leaky pipe.

- There is no leaky pipe, either below or above

or inside or around the statue.

It's completely a standalone statue.

- [Tony] Finally, could the tears be caused by condensation?

O'Neill visits the foundry that made the bronze statue.

- This was the singular case of all the many statues

that they had created that exhibited this phenomena.

And we look at these statues

they're made of a bronze alloy.

And so as such, they cannot retain water.

- [Tony] Physicist Dr. Hakeem oluseyi

also weighs the condensation theory.

- What's special about the eyes

that make that the location where it occurs,

and nowhere else on the statue,

it wasn't sweating, it was crying.

So what is it about the statue

and the location of the eyes that would make it

cry but not do anything else.

- [Tony] And it's even more strange when you consider

what the tears were made of.

- You would expect the liquid to be water

but the liquid has been tested

and it turns out it's not water, it's olive oil.

So that makes this even weirder.

- [Tony] So if it's not a hoax, a leak or condensation

then what is it?

- This seems to be an authentic case

of a miraculous weeping statue.

We may not know why it's happening

but we know that it is happening.

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- The catholic church is yet to verify this incident

as a miracle, but so far there's no earthly explanation

for the weeping Mary of new Mexico.

And that olive oil is what does it for us

our verdict, an unexplained phenomenon.

And if you want to call it a miracle, you go right ahead.

Coming up a mysterious image,

captured on a camera in the woods,

has the experts asking.

- Well is that an alien?

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- Our next story takes us

to big sky country in western Montana.

A state with a reputation for unexplained phenomenon.

And this bizarre image is proof

that if you're ever there at night,

it's best to bring a camera.

Deer lodge Montana, October, 2018

Don bromley is working a ranch equipped

with more than 100 motion control trail cams

to spot predators and catch potential trespassers.

One morning, Don checks the cameras

and realizes they'd caught a trespasser

unlike any he'd ever seen.

- It was one of those, just an eerie feeling.

I have looking at it.

It had the two legs, but it didn't look right.

You could see the head was too big and a little off

you really made you guess and question what it was

- [Tony] Now take a closer look,

especially that bulbous head.

Does that look human to you?

Don doubted, the camera was miles away

from any sort of road or trail.

So he went back to conduct a photo experiment.

I found the exact spot where that being was and where I was

and put them side by side.

And I'm glad I did it because that one really hits it home.

It really shows what a person should look like.

And then there's no explanation for the other one.

- [Tony] So what are we looking at here, a bigfoot?

- Montana has a rich history of cryptids in general,

sasquatch has being number one on the list

because it is excellent habitat, they are there.

- [Tony] Montana was also a hotspot for ufo activity.

- There's cattle mutilations, horse mutilations.

There's just a lot of activity

that is unexplained to this day.

- [Tony] In fact in 1950 Montana was where it's believed

a man named Nick Marianna's made ufo history.

- He sees these two shiny objects moving through the sky.

He gets the 16 millimeter camera and films this.

As far as we know, this is the first ufo captured on film.

- So to Don's camera capture something equally momentous

a bigfoot, an extra terrestrial or something entirely new.

We sent Don's photo to our experts,

starting with our trustee forensic image analyst,

Michael primo.

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The first question is whether or not

Don altered this picture.

- We performed essentially an X-ray of the image

that provides any kind of distinction between something

that's been copied and pasted onto a picture.

But I didn't detect any alerts

from my image authentication software to notify me that

there were any kind of inconsistencies with the image.

This is a camera originally.

- Okay we know it's not a fake photograph.

So then could it be the famous bigfoot?

We take the photo to anthropologist Kathy strain.

- Obviously it's not an animal.

So this is something that's walking upright

it's clearly bipedal.

It's not on all fours.

And there's not a whole lot of cryptids that are bipedal.

Bigfoot walks on two legs.

- [Tony] But that may be where the similarities

to bigfoot end.

- Doesn't seem to be heavy set.

Wide shouldered, is clearly not hair covered.

It doesn't appear to be that much difference

in size than Don himself.

And so it doesn't make any sense for that to be a bigfoot.

- [Tony] So if it's not a bigfoot

could it be something else inhuman?

- Your initial thought is well is that an alien?

Is that what we're looking at?

But if you look at it more closely

you can see that to me anyway that he's wearing a hoodie

and that's why his head looks so funny shaped.

And he's not wearing a backpack but is clearly a trespasser

to me going through the property.

I use game cameras a lot because we put them out

at archeological sites to catch looters.

And based on that it has all the elements

of just an overexposed photo.

And it's a malfunction I think of the camera.

Like this is an overexposed mountain lion.

You can tell it's a cat

but you're not gonna get much else out of that

because it's so over flashed that you can't get any details.

In this other photo because it looks like a human

I'm gonna conclude that it's a human.

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- So we can say that the photo is authentic

despite the suspicious blurring around the distorted head.

See that right there.

But Kathy strains cat picture convinces me

for now at least our verdict is blurred human.

One note though, Don says none

of his other cameras recorded any trespassers.

So that bit of the mystery is still lingering.

Coming up she says this popular app connected her thoughts

to the material world.

- Where did you come from?

I think anything's possible.

- [Tony] But what will you think

when "the proof is out there" continues?

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- Could there be a link between our minds

and the material world around us?

Can just thinking about something, make it come true?

We found some people who believe that's now possible.

Thanks to an app on your phone.

It's may, 2020.

And when Alexa walkovitz learned her mother's dog,

lala was lost.

She and her friend Anna did something

you might find hard to believe.

- We look at our home used to pick the settings

and we just think really, really long and hard about lala.

Let's visualize in our mind us finding her.

- [Tony] What?

Well believe it or not.

It's all about an app called randonautica.

Alexa and her friends set an intention

and thought of her mother's dog,

the randonautica app which claims to direct people

to a real world encounter with those intentions,

then displayed random GPS coordinates

near her home in the mojave desert.

- From walking home, walking forward.

And Anna turns to me and kind of like says, "what's that?"

There was a little animal.

Where did you come from?

And I realized it was a dog.

I didn't even see it.

- [Tony] Take another look out of nowhere,

this dog appears in the desert.

Now it turned out this dog wasn't her mother's

it had escaped from a nearby property.

And although Alexa never found lala

she is convinced the app taps into the power of the mind.

- It's kind of a healing adventure,

because maybe that was my dog speaking through that dog

and was trying to say to you, listen, it's okay.

Here I am to come for you for a moment.

- Experiences like Alexis made randonautica,

the craze of 2020.

In just three months the app drew over 15 million downloads

with thousands of posts on social media

of people declaring their intentions.

- [Woman] The intention for my randoneer journey is purple.

- [Tony] Heading to random locations.

- Is that our purple house?

- And finding their wishes at least partially fulfilled.

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- Like thinking of purple

and then having the app lead to this backyard.

- It's kind of blowing my mind right now.

- So does the world of the mind connect

with the physical world?

Can randonautica really manifest our intentions.

We asked our friendly physicist

to come up with an experiment to test it.

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Dr. Hakeem oluseyi and Dr. Michio kaku

give us our guidelines.

- In order to test this idea to see if it works.

We have to do a lot of tests

to remove the statistical uncertainties.

And you have to keep very careful records

of when you're right and when you're wrong.

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- [Woman] There it is.

- Second when it comes to our goal

make it specific and not metaphorical.

- My intention was adventure and cool stuff.

And this is so cool.

No, that's something that looks pretty.

- [Woman] Wow.

- No cash,

that to me would be a very convincing experiment.

- [Tony] So that's just what we did.

Asking our test subject to declare cash as her intention.

- A hundred dollars, a hundred dollars.

- [Tony] The app generates random GPS coordinates.

Now let's see where we're going.

- Part of a hairbrush.

- [Tony] So far, no cash.

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- All right my intention $100,

$100.

I found a weird buckle thing.

- [Tony] Our subject keeps repeating the experiment.

- My intention, $100.

- Then at one location no dollar bills but.

- I've found batteries.

So we didn't find any money at this location

but there is a bank really close to here.

So you never know.

Maybe that's what drew me here.

- [Tony] Like many randonautica stories

the exact intention didn't manifest,

but something kind of related.

So what's happening here.

Kaku believes the explanation

is something called the synchronicity effect.

A phenomenon where people interpret

two coincidentally events as intertwined.

- [Woman] Wow.

- Synchronicity for example is you're thinking about Joe

and Joe calls you on the telephone

and you say to yourself, aha I knew it, I'm psychic.

- It's kind of blowing my mind right now.

- [Tony] But kaku explains

while everyone remembers the occasional hits.

- Most of the time they're misses.

You forget about them.

But think of all the times when you thought about Jane

and Harry and they didn't call you.

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- Our verdict, most likely coincidence.

Which comes from people making very general wishes

like something that will make me happy.

But there is a lot.

We still don't know about this universe

but that's what we think.

What do you think?

Please reach out to us with

your comments and suggestions.

I'm Tony Harris and that's

our show for tonight.

Thanks for watching.

And by all means, keep those cameras rolling.

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