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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,741 --> 00:00:05,092 - Brandon was the full package. 2 00:00:05,135 --> 00:00:06,528 - You like that, baby? 3 00:00:06,571 --> 00:00:07,703 - Oh, yeah. 4 00:00:07,790 --> 00:00:09,096 Charming. - That's good. 5 00:00:09,183 --> 00:00:10,184 - You like that. 6 00:00:10,271 --> 00:00:11,620 Charismatic. 7 00:00:11,707 --> 00:00:14,318 [tense music] 8 00:00:14,405 --> 00:00:15,711 - [laughs] 9 00:00:15,798 --> 00:00:18,409 - But sadly, it was too good to be true. 10 00:00:18,540 --> 00:00:20,498 - The person that I thought he was, he didn't exist. 11 00:00:20,542 --> 00:00:22,500 - Just stop. Stop. Stop! - You need help. 12 00:00:22,587 --> 00:00:29,290 - I wake up to a text message, "Your time is coming, bitch." 13 00:00:29,377 --> 00:00:31,814 - We found out Brandon was in California. 14 00:00:31,901 --> 00:00:35,731 And there's a new woman that's being preyed upon. 15 00:00:35,818 --> 00:00:37,341 - He was following her. 16 00:00:37,385 --> 00:00:40,692 His behavior started becoming more possessive. 17 00:00:40,779 --> 00:00:42,955 - He was sneaking around her house at night, 18 00:00:43,086 --> 00:00:44,348 looking through her windows. 19 00:00:44,392 --> 00:00:45,915 - He's gonna kill her. 20 00:00:46,002 --> 00:00:49,223 - Brandon has multiple charges stacked against him. 21 00:00:49,266 --> 00:00:51,181 The resisting arrest, the police chase 22 00:00:51,312 --> 00:00:52,748 with my daughter in the car. 23 00:00:58,406 --> 00:01:00,712 - Why isn't he being arrested for all this stuff? 24 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:03,846 - She finally answers the phone, 25 00:01:03,976 --> 00:01:06,196 and I can hear panic in her voice. 26 00:01:06,283 --> 00:01:08,285 - And he's got what appears to be a gun. 27 00:01:10,287 --> 00:01:13,508 It's like a predator going after his prey. 28 00:01:13,638 --> 00:01:15,814 [glass shatters] 29 00:01:20,776 --> 00:01:23,387 [relaxing music] 30 00:01:23,474 --> 00:01:28,479 ♪ ♪ 31 00:01:28,566 --> 00:01:31,352 - Rachel and I were next door neighbors. 32 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:34,006 - We actually did it. 33 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:36,226 - I can't believe we did it. 34 00:01:36,313 --> 00:01:39,360 - She was definitely more than just a friend. 35 00:01:39,447 --> 00:01:41,884 Rachel was like family. 36 00:01:41,971 --> 00:01:45,235 [screams] 37 00:01:45,322 --> 00:01:49,370 - Newly single, she hadn't been dating for a very long time. 38 00:01:49,413 --> 00:01:52,590 So she was working through it. 39 00:01:52,676 --> 00:01:56,725 - She was looking for a guy who was family-oriented, 40 00:01:56,812 --> 00:01:58,378 who was a good person. 41 00:02:00,685 --> 00:02:03,993 - So when Rachel came to me and told me 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,562 she found a guy that was perfect, I was very excited. 43 00:02:07,649 --> 00:02:08,911 - See? Look at that. 44 00:02:08,997 --> 00:02:10,434 All opens up. 45 00:02:10,565 --> 00:02:14,134 - He had a daughter, and his name was Brandon. 46 00:02:14,221 --> 00:02:17,224 - He had a PhD. He dressed nice. 47 00:02:17,311 --> 00:02:20,704 And he looked really good on paper. 48 00:02:20,836 --> 00:02:23,926 I thought this could go further. 49 00:02:24,056 --> 00:02:26,755 - I knew that her new boyfriend was gonna be 50 00:02:26,841 --> 00:02:29,366 my new best friend and my husband's new best friend, 51 00:02:29,453 --> 00:02:32,587 and so I was really excited to go out with them. 52 00:02:32,674 --> 00:02:34,719 [suspenseful music] 53 00:02:34,763 --> 00:02:37,853 - A little bit later, we went out axe-throwing. 54 00:02:40,464 --> 00:02:43,466 We had a couple drinks there. 55 00:02:43,598 --> 00:02:46,427 Yeah, throwing axes while drinking, that's fun. 56 00:02:47,906 --> 00:02:49,908 - Take it! 57 00:02:49,995 --> 00:02:51,432 [laughs] 58 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:54,174 - The first half of the night was so much fun. 59 00:02:54,261 --> 00:02:55,175 - Good job! 60 00:02:55,262 --> 00:02:57,133 We had a great time. 61 00:02:57,264 --> 00:02:59,353 Then Rachel and I found a girlfriend, 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,921 and we were dancing with our new friend. 63 00:03:03,052 --> 00:03:04,923 - The girls are dancing, 64 00:03:05,054 --> 00:03:08,405 and I'm just having a beer at the bar. 65 00:03:08,492 --> 00:03:11,843 Brandon had been there, keeping an eye on her. 66 00:03:13,845 --> 00:03:17,327 And then next thing you know, it's like, where'd he go? 67 00:03:17,414 --> 00:03:19,677 [upbeat music] 68 00:03:19,721 --> 00:03:21,723 - We had to go to the bathroom. 69 00:03:21,853 --> 00:03:25,074 We were there for a couple of minutes, 70 00:03:25,204 --> 00:03:29,600 and then the door slams open. 71 00:03:29,687 --> 00:03:32,255 And I look up there, and there's Brandon. 72 00:03:32,341 --> 00:03:33,952 His eyes were blacked. 73 00:03:34,083 --> 00:03:35,563 They were glossed over. 74 00:03:35,650 --> 00:03:38,000 He looked like he wanted to murder somebody. 75 00:03:38,087 --> 00:03:40,176 And he started yelling at Rachel. 76 00:03:40,263 --> 00:03:42,483 "How dare you disrespect me? 77 00:03:42,570 --> 00:03:46,965 How dare you dance with this other girl?" 78 00:03:47,096 --> 00:03:51,274 He had a glass cup. 79 00:03:51,361 --> 00:03:53,885 He smashes it down, smashes everywhere, 80 00:03:53,929 --> 00:03:56,061 and just walks out. 81 00:03:56,148 --> 00:03:59,456 I was terrified because I did see the devil. 82 00:03:59,543 --> 00:04:00,718 I saw the devil in his eyes. 83 00:04:00,805 --> 00:04:04,200 [tense music] 84 00:04:04,331 --> 00:04:07,377 I was just very grateful that my husband was there. 85 00:04:07,508 --> 00:04:10,859 And Rachel came home with us. 86 00:04:10,989 --> 00:04:14,950 - I told Nikki that I just got a really bad feeling about him. 87 00:04:14,993 --> 00:04:19,649 He's going to chop her up into a million little pieces. 88 00:04:19,737 --> 00:04:22,305 He's--he's gonna kill her. 89 00:04:30,531 --> 00:04:33,142 - After the incident, after the axe-throwing, 90 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:35,753 I thought that that was gonna be 91 00:04:35,797 --> 00:04:37,407 the end of Rachel and Brandon. 92 00:04:37,494 --> 00:04:39,670 [uneasy music] 93 00:04:39,757 --> 00:04:41,542 - If it was up to me, that would have been 94 00:04:41,585 --> 00:04:44,806 the last time we ever heard from Brandon. 95 00:04:44,936 --> 00:04:46,286 [all yelling] 96 00:04:46,416 --> 00:04:49,376 - But he turned the entire situation around. 97 00:04:49,463 --> 00:04:52,074 He told Rachel he did not throw the glass down. 98 00:04:59,690 --> 00:05:01,562 - He manipulated her into believing that 99 00:05:01,605 --> 00:05:03,955 she was in the wrong, not him. 100 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:06,175 And she felt sorry for him. 101 00:05:06,218 --> 00:05:08,569 But I didn't trust him. 102 00:05:08,656 --> 00:05:11,398 I thought Brandon was gaslighting her. 103 00:05:14,488 --> 00:05:16,054 - Rachel and I had been really close friends 104 00:05:16,185 --> 00:05:17,186 for about 11 years. 105 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,884 [camera shutter clicks] 106 00:05:19,971 --> 00:05:23,497 Rachel was just getting back into dating after her divorce. 107 00:05:23,584 --> 00:05:25,977 And we were online dating at the same time, 108 00:05:26,064 --> 00:05:28,893 and I actually came across Brandon's profile, I think, 109 00:05:29,024 --> 00:05:32,506 before she did, and I swiped left on him. 110 00:05:32,636 --> 00:05:35,291 I thought he looked like a serial killer. 111 00:05:35,378 --> 00:05:37,685 There were just a lot of things that 112 00:05:37,772 --> 00:05:41,297 he was doing with Rachel that was making me very cautious. 113 00:05:43,081 --> 00:05:45,693 He said that he had a degree in psychology. 114 00:05:45,736 --> 00:05:48,086 I never saw him do any type of psychology work. 115 00:05:48,173 --> 00:05:49,610 Never saw him have a job. 116 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,267 - He said that his ex-wife was pretty much out of the picture, 117 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:58,401 and he spent a lot of time with his daughter. 118 00:05:58,488 --> 00:06:00,490 - To me, that was a red flag, 119 00:06:00,621 --> 00:06:03,101 because why is he living in California 120 00:06:03,188 --> 00:06:05,756 with no child that I ever saw. 121 00:06:05,843 --> 00:06:07,541 - In the beginning, Brandon only told 122 00:06:07,628 --> 00:06:09,717 Rachel he had one ex-wife. 123 00:06:09,804 --> 00:06:13,111 He did not tell her that he had two ex-wives. 124 00:06:13,198 --> 00:06:16,854 - And then Amber and Athena reached out to Rachel. 125 00:06:16,941 --> 00:06:20,641 - No one ever saw this coming, but here we are. 126 00:06:20,684 --> 00:06:22,425 - My name is Athena. - And I'm Amber. 127 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:25,123 And we are "Ex-Wives Undercover." 128 00:06:25,210 --> 00:06:29,563 - We found out Brandon was in California now 129 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:35,046 and there was a woman named Rachel being preyed upon. 130 00:06:35,133 --> 00:06:38,136 We knew that we needed to get her 131 00:06:38,223 --> 00:06:41,531 up to date on the real Brandon. 132 00:06:41,575 --> 00:06:46,144 We were scared of what he might do. 133 00:06:46,188 --> 00:06:48,146 We were able to get a phone number, 134 00:06:48,233 --> 00:06:52,412 and we crafted a well thought-out text message. 135 00:06:52,499 --> 00:06:54,457 - Hi, Rachel. 136 00:06:54,544 --> 00:06:56,284 We were given your information recently, 137 00:06:56,372 --> 00:06:58,069 and we wanted to reach out to you 138 00:06:58,156 --> 00:07:01,333 and tell you the truth about the guy you are dating. 139 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:05,337 He is not the person you think he is. 140 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:08,297 But we knew that she might not believe 141 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:09,603 everything that we were saying. 142 00:07:11,605 --> 00:07:14,564 - She did open the door a little bit with us. 143 00:07:14,608 --> 00:07:16,653 And I got on the phone with her and definitely 144 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:18,960 let her know that I understand where she's coming from. 145 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:20,222 I was in her shoes. 146 00:07:22,224 --> 00:07:24,487 - With Athena and Amber reaching out, 147 00:07:24,531 --> 00:07:26,446 Rachel confronted Brandon, 148 00:07:26,576 --> 00:07:29,536 and Brandon had an entire sob story. 149 00:07:29,623 --> 00:07:32,277 - He was basically telling her he had done some things 150 00:07:32,364 --> 00:07:34,236 that he wasn't proud of, like cheating, 151 00:07:34,323 --> 00:07:39,328 so they had done this podcast as kind of their revenge. 152 00:07:39,415 --> 00:07:42,113 - He was adding yet another woman to his harem of chicks. 153 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,334 - He told Rachel his ex-wives are not very stable. 154 00:07:45,377 --> 00:07:46,509 - He's a fucking liar. 155 00:07:46,596 --> 00:07:48,424 - And out to get him. 156 00:07:48,511 --> 00:07:49,991 - I think we got a bad one. 157 00:07:50,078 --> 00:07:51,471 - And did not want him to be happy. 158 00:07:51,558 --> 00:07:53,690 - Oh, man, that is embarrassing shit. 159 00:07:53,777 --> 00:07:56,650 - Rachel had this dilemma of who do I trust. 160 00:07:56,737 --> 00:07:58,390 Do I trust Brandon, or do I trust these 161 00:07:58,433 --> 00:08:00,044 two women that I don't know? 162 00:08:00,175 --> 00:08:01,132 - And when you're with someone, 163 00:08:01,219 --> 00:08:02,351 you wanna take their side. 164 00:08:02,438 --> 00:08:04,135 You wanna believe them, you know. 165 00:08:04,222 --> 00:08:05,789 She was a very loyal person. 166 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:06,834 That's one of her great qualities. 167 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:13,405 - He had a story for everything. 168 00:08:13,449 --> 00:08:16,626 He told her that he is a new person. 169 00:08:16,670 --> 00:08:19,760 He is doing all the things necessary for him to heal. 170 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,940 - Rachel was a very kind person. 171 00:08:26,027 --> 00:08:29,334 If she felt that somebody was sorry and repentive 172 00:08:29,421 --> 00:08:32,381 over the situation, 173 00:08:32,467 --> 00:08:36,298 she would give you another shot. 174 00:08:36,385 --> 00:08:39,256 [suspenseful music] 175 00:08:39,344 --> 00:08:42,652 ♪ ♪ 176 00:08:42,783 --> 00:08:45,612 - By 2022, I didn't know if 177 00:08:45,699 --> 00:08:49,441 Rachel and Brandon were together at this point, 178 00:08:49,572 --> 00:08:51,835 but he is still in my life. 179 00:08:51,966 --> 00:08:54,751 [police siren wailing] 180 00:08:57,841 --> 00:09:02,063 After the crazy experiences with Brandon, 181 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:06,720 with my daughter Sydney, and the police chase with him, 182 00:09:06,807 --> 00:09:10,462 I remember just going to bed completely exhausted. 183 00:09:10,593 --> 00:09:16,207 ♪ ♪ 184 00:09:16,294 --> 00:09:20,560 One night I wake up to a text message. 185 00:09:23,301 --> 00:09:28,002 And it says, "Your time is coming, bitch." 186 00:09:28,089 --> 00:09:30,526 Receiving the threat 187 00:09:30,613 --> 00:09:32,833 and seeing a phone number that, 188 00:09:32,876 --> 00:09:35,531 you know, I didn't recognize, 189 00:09:35,618 --> 00:09:38,142 it completely threw me off-guard. 190 00:09:38,229 --> 00:09:40,231 I just felt very panicked. 191 00:09:42,930 --> 00:09:46,107 As soon as I get that text, I'm locking my doors. 192 00:09:46,194 --> 00:09:49,023 There's nothing that would make me believe that 193 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:51,721 Brandon wasn't just, like, standing outside in my backyard 194 00:09:51,852 --> 00:09:54,376 or my front yard just waiting, waiting for me. 195 00:09:56,204 --> 00:09:59,250 - I got a phone call from Athena. 196 00:09:59,337 --> 00:10:01,513 We did not recognize the phone number that 197 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:03,951 texted that message, but without a doubt, 198 00:10:04,038 --> 00:10:07,215 we knew it was Brandon Johnson. 199 00:10:07,302 --> 00:10:09,391 - I want to go to the police about this, 200 00:10:09,478 --> 00:10:11,480 but what did we have? An anonymous threat? 201 00:10:14,222 --> 00:10:16,703 - We knew that police would not be able to do anything 202 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:20,924 unless we had 100% proof that we could connect Brandon 203 00:10:21,055 --> 00:10:23,187 with that phone number. 204 00:10:23,318 --> 00:10:25,799 It was gonna be very difficult, 205 00:10:25,929 --> 00:10:28,758 but Athena came up with the idea of, maybe Rachel knows. 206 00:10:28,802 --> 00:10:32,066 Maybe he had used this number speaking with Rachel. 207 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:36,113 We were hoping she would respond, 208 00:10:36,157 --> 00:10:37,114 but we really didn't know. 209 00:10:38,768 --> 00:10:41,641 - My text to Rachel was just simply, 210 00:10:41,771 --> 00:10:44,382 "Does this phone number look familiar to you?" 211 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,913 To my surprise, she said yeah. 212 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,785 But from my prior experience, I knew that 213 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:58,614 I had to get solid evidence of this. 214 00:10:58,745 --> 00:11:02,270 Then I just asked if she could take a screenshot 215 00:11:02,357 --> 00:11:05,795 and she didn't hesitate. 216 00:11:05,882 --> 00:11:09,364 As soon as I got that screenshot from Rachel, 217 00:11:09,451 --> 00:11:11,975 my thought was, "I got you." 218 00:11:14,412 --> 00:11:15,587 I knew that death threat was going 219 00:11:15,718 --> 00:11:17,459 against Brandon's probation, 220 00:11:17,589 --> 00:11:20,592 and I am fully aware that Brandon has 221 00:11:20,723 --> 00:11:24,640 multiple charges stacked against him. 222 00:11:24,727 --> 00:11:26,990 The resisting arrest, the police car chase 223 00:11:27,121 --> 00:11:29,036 with my daughter in the vehicle, 224 00:11:29,166 --> 00:11:31,908 the violation of the no-contact orders. 225 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:36,608 - And he also had 13 felony counts pending 226 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:40,047 because he was embezzling money from an employer, 227 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:44,007 and this is another check on his list of offenses. 228 00:11:44,094 --> 00:11:48,142 - I'm just hoping that this takes us over to the next step. 229 00:11:48,229 --> 00:11:50,884 Maybe jail time. 230 00:11:52,929 --> 00:11:54,583 - I just thought, why isn't he being 231 00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:56,150 arrested for all this stuff? 232 00:11:56,237 --> 00:11:58,892 That's the million dollar question. 233 00:11:59,022 --> 00:12:01,677 We had talked about it on our podcast, 234 00:12:01,764 --> 00:12:03,810 but the problem was that now he's in California 235 00:12:03,897 --> 00:12:06,029 and the jurisdiction don't match. 236 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,859 So all the things that were going on in Washington, 237 00:12:09,946 --> 00:12:11,165 you know, no one's gonna be driving down 238 00:12:11,252 --> 00:12:12,514 to California to arrest him. 239 00:12:12,601 --> 00:12:15,473 [suspenseful music] 240 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:22,654 ♪ ♪ 241 00:12:27,529 --> 00:12:30,837 - Brandon's behavior started becoming more possessive, 242 00:12:30,924 --> 00:12:34,579 and Rachel believed he was reading her text messages. 243 00:12:34,665 --> 00:12:37,452 He was following her. 244 00:12:37,539 --> 00:12:39,976 His behavior was erratic. 245 00:12:40,063 --> 00:12:42,979 - I didn't want Rachel to be with Brandon, 246 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:44,589 and I tried to help her get out many times, 247 00:12:44,676 --> 00:12:46,678 but I could understand why it was so, 248 00:12:46,722 --> 00:12:49,638 so hard for her to get out. 249 00:12:49,725 --> 00:12:53,076 I'm a forensic nurse examiner for rape and strangulation, 250 00:12:53,163 --> 00:12:55,513 sexual assaults, and I have a lot of experience 251 00:12:55,644 --> 00:12:59,517 of coercive control and abuse. 252 00:12:59,604 --> 00:13:02,912 The abusers pick victims that are usually 253 00:13:02,999 --> 00:13:05,567 very kind-hearted, that they know 254 00:13:05,654 --> 00:13:08,439 are gonna have a hard time leaving. 255 00:13:08,526 --> 00:13:10,572 They twist things around to control 256 00:13:10,659 --> 00:13:12,443 and manipulate their victims. 257 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:14,489 They have gaslit them. 258 00:13:14,576 --> 00:13:16,883 They have confused them. 259 00:13:16,970 --> 00:13:20,190 They'll often do things like threaten suicide. 260 00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:22,279 Brandon did this as well. 261 00:13:22,323 --> 00:13:25,195 They do many, many things where it is so hard 262 00:13:25,282 --> 00:13:26,762 for the victim to get out. 263 00:13:29,547 --> 00:13:32,159 I could see all of the signs that Rachel was 264 00:13:32,289 --> 00:13:35,553 in this type of relationship. 265 00:13:35,684 --> 00:13:39,862 - Brandon knew Rachel's group of friends did not like him. 266 00:13:39,949 --> 00:13:43,431 Brandon especially knew I did not like him. 267 00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:46,521 - One night he approached me and started talking to me 268 00:13:46,608 --> 00:13:48,697 about Nikki and how controlling she was 269 00:13:48,784 --> 00:13:50,177 and how she was basically ruining 270 00:13:50,307 --> 00:13:53,571 his and Rachel's relationship. 271 00:13:53,702 --> 00:13:57,793 - He told Lauren, the only thing in the way 272 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,143 between Rachel and me is Nikki, 273 00:14:00,230 --> 00:14:02,885 and he will do whatever it takes to get Rachel. 274 00:14:04,495 --> 00:14:06,889 It was a huge turning point for all of us. 275 00:14:10,023 --> 00:14:12,939 We all got together and did tell her 276 00:14:13,026 --> 00:14:15,202 that we did not think he was good for her. 277 00:14:15,289 --> 00:14:17,421 - And he lied about it all. - Oh, my God. 278 00:14:17,552 --> 00:14:20,903 - And she realized that the podcasts were true. 279 00:14:20,947 --> 00:14:22,165 - Girl, don't do it. 280 00:14:22,209 --> 00:14:24,124 Don't be me. Don't be me. 281 00:14:24,211 --> 00:14:27,736 - And everything she was told was one lie 282 00:14:27,823 --> 00:14:29,956 after another lie after another lie. 283 00:14:30,043 --> 00:14:32,741 And so she was done with the relationship. 284 00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:39,008 - And that's when Brandon started to really get angry, 285 00:14:39,139 --> 00:14:41,141 and things started to escalate. 286 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,408 - I knew that if Brandon was gonna hold 287 00:14:47,538 --> 00:14:50,324 anybody responsible, it was gonna be me. 288 00:14:52,587 --> 00:14:55,068 [soft music] 289 00:14:55,155 --> 00:14:59,420 ♪ ♪ 290 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:03,163 By the beginning of 2022, we are so proud of Rachel 291 00:15:03,206 --> 00:15:04,991 for breaking it off with Brandon. 292 00:15:07,123 --> 00:15:09,778 No Brandon, no drama. 293 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:12,824 And we were able to live our lives 294 00:15:12,868 --> 00:15:14,826 and not look over our backs. 295 00:15:16,393 --> 00:15:18,613 [ominous music] 296 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:24,227 But one day, I noticed that the side of my car was keyed. 297 00:15:24,314 --> 00:15:27,187 - Her car wasn't parked at home or at her job, 298 00:15:27,274 --> 00:15:29,711 so I just went, oh, well, what did you do? 299 00:15:29,798 --> 00:15:31,669 Did you cut somebody off? 300 00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:35,543 I felt that it was a random act of vandalism. 301 00:15:37,675 --> 00:15:42,289 - Not long after that, my tire was slashed. 302 00:15:42,376 --> 00:15:45,814 And a couple days later, I walk out from work again 303 00:15:45,901 --> 00:15:51,385 and the other side of my car is keyed, every panel. 304 00:15:51,472 --> 00:15:53,953 And that's when I got really scared. 305 00:15:54,083 --> 00:15:57,826 And that's when I knew someone was targeting me. 306 00:15:57,913 --> 00:16:00,394 - Nikki and I and Rachel all talk about it, 307 00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:03,963 and the only conclusion that we come to is Brandon. 308 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:05,921 - We can't prove that. 309 00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:10,360 But Rachel did reach out and text message Amber and Athena. 310 00:16:10,447 --> 00:16:17,454 ♪ ♪ 311 00:16:17,541 --> 00:16:19,717 - Rachel asked if this was something 312 00:16:19,848 --> 00:16:21,850 Brandon could have done, 313 00:16:21,937 --> 00:16:24,331 and immediately our response was yes. 314 00:16:24,461 --> 00:16:27,247 In our opinion, this had Brandon written all over it. 315 00:16:27,377 --> 00:16:33,122 ♪ ♪ 316 00:16:33,209 --> 00:16:35,690 - We knew from our own experiences, as well as 317 00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:38,606 other women that dated Brandon, that the minute 318 00:16:38,693 --> 00:16:41,087 they tried to break free 319 00:16:41,174 --> 00:16:44,090 that this type of thing would happen. 320 00:16:44,177 --> 00:16:47,441 And if he's vandalizing this car, 321 00:16:47,528 --> 00:16:49,356 that could mean there was a tracker on it. 322 00:16:49,443 --> 00:16:51,793 So we were very adamant that you need to get 323 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,187 your car checked right now. 324 00:16:56,537 --> 00:17:00,497 - I checked the fuel filler and under the hood. 325 00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:01,890 Then I got underneath the vehicle 326 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:06,199 and just worked my way around. 327 00:17:06,242 --> 00:17:10,377 And was about to give up when I reached up 328 00:17:10,464 --> 00:17:13,467 and found a magnetic device 329 00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:16,992 about the size of a hockey puck. 330 00:17:17,123 --> 00:17:21,170 Oh, my gosh, there's a GPS tracker on my wife's car. 331 00:17:23,477 --> 00:17:25,566 It was scary, you know, somebody-- 332 00:17:25,695 --> 00:17:26,828 somebody's tracking us. 333 00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:29,135 Somebody is watching us. 334 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:34,096 - After I text Rachel and told her about the tracker, 335 00:17:34,183 --> 00:17:37,578 about 20 minutes later, I get a picture 336 00:17:37,708 --> 00:17:42,583 of the exact same tracker on her son's car. 337 00:17:42,713 --> 00:17:45,281 - As soon as I hear that, I-- 338 00:17:45,368 --> 00:17:46,978 I couldn't be more serious. 339 00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:50,373 I told her, you need to go to the police right away. 340 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:52,201 - We knew that if Brandon was putting a tracker 341 00:17:52,332 --> 00:17:55,770 on Nikki's car, that he was really escalating 342 00:17:55,813 --> 00:17:59,339 and becoming more and more aggressive. 343 00:17:59,426 --> 00:18:01,776 - Brandon wants to be your one and only. 344 00:18:03,821 --> 00:18:07,651 - The woman had given us a video of an incident where 345 00:18:07,782 --> 00:18:11,394 a man appeared to crouch behind a car 346 00:18:11,525 --> 00:18:15,442 parked in front of her house. 347 00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:18,097 - The brake lines were cut on that vehicle. 348 00:18:18,184 --> 00:18:20,229 - We certainly couldn't prove that it was Brandon, 349 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:22,971 but we were incredibly suspicious. 350 00:18:25,452 --> 00:18:28,019 - I was worried about Brandon was capable 351 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:33,721 of doing far worse to Nikki, to Rachel. 352 00:18:33,808 --> 00:18:36,071 - We didn't know where he was gonna hit, 353 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,552 how he was gonna hit, when he was gonna hit. 354 00:18:38,639 --> 00:18:41,120 But it was just a matter of time. 355 00:18:41,250 --> 00:18:44,645 And I think he just took it beyond anything 356 00:18:44,688 --> 00:18:46,342 that was even imaginable. 357 00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:56,787 [eerie music] 358 00:18:56,874 --> 00:19:00,443 - After we found the tracker, Amber and Athena said 359 00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:04,795 Brandon's actions is a part of his playbook. 360 00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:08,495 Brandon has been known to do whatever he could do 361 00:19:08,582 --> 00:19:13,152 to isolate the girl that he is dating from her best friend. 362 00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:16,807 I called the police, but we were told that 363 00:19:16,894 --> 00:19:19,288 because we couldn't prove that it was Brandon 364 00:19:19,375 --> 00:19:22,639 that it would be difficult to qualify as stalking. 365 00:19:22,683 --> 00:19:25,642 And all they could do was take a police report. 366 00:19:27,818 --> 00:19:31,561 - I wasn't really surprised because these types of abusers 367 00:19:31,648 --> 00:19:35,174 get very clever and know exactly 368 00:19:35,261 --> 00:19:37,785 what they can and cannot get away with. 369 00:19:39,265 --> 00:19:44,966 - I felt fearful for myself and the safety of my family. 370 00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:48,187 - We're pretty vulnerable. 371 00:19:48,317 --> 00:19:52,103 It's like, what--what is he willing to do at this point? 372 00:19:52,147 --> 00:19:55,629 You know, kind of looking over your shoulder. 373 00:19:55,716 --> 00:19:56,499 [gunshot] 374 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:01,983 We purchased a couple of handguns. 375 00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:04,942 We took a firearms class. 376 00:20:05,073 --> 00:20:10,600 And we were--we were gonna be ready if he showed up. 377 00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:14,082 [tense music] 378 00:20:14,169 --> 00:20:16,432 - Brandon wouldn't go away. 379 00:20:19,305 --> 00:20:22,525 He would go wherever Rachel went. 380 00:20:22,656 --> 00:20:24,223 He would stalk her. 381 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:29,140 He followed her at work, yoga studio. 382 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:33,057 He was everywhere. 383 00:20:33,101 --> 00:20:34,537 She felt fearful. 384 00:20:37,888 --> 00:20:40,021 - Things were getting very creepy. 385 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:46,593 Brandon would send Rachel text messages 386 00:20:46,723 --> 00:20:50,466 quoting exact sentences that we said in private. 387 00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:55,950 ♪ ♪ 388 00:20:56,037 --> 00:20:58,605 We--we were all really confused. 389 00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:02,086 We didn't know where the information was coming from. 390 00:21:02,173 --> 00:21:04,219 - Rachel had texted me. 391 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:08,136 I just kept saying, he's got to have your phone, like, bugged. 392 00:21:08,223 --> 00:21:10,181 He probably has spyware. That's gotta be what it is. 393 00:21:15,012 --> 00:21:17,493 Rachel kept reassuring me that she absolutely 394 00:21:17,624 --> 00:21:19,974 had her phone checked, her computer checked, 395 00:21:20,061 --> 00:21:22,324 and that they found nothing. 396 00:21:26,023 --> 00:21:28,852 I'm kind of dumbfounded and absolutely clueless 397 00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:31,464 as to how he is finding out all of this. 398 00:21:35,032 --> 00:21:37,165 - I was scared for Rachel. 399 00:21:37,252 --> 00:21:40,299 We don't know where his eyes and ears are. 400 00:21:40,386 --> 00:21:44,738 It's like a predator going after his prey. 401 00:21:44,825 --> 00:21:51,614 ♪ ♪ 402 00:21:53,268 --> 00:21:55,879 - Because of Brandon's behavior, 403 00:21:56,010 --> 00:22:00,493 Rachel planned a Valentine's Day girl weekend, 404 00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:04,975 and she wanted a fun good time. 405 00:22:05,062 --> 00:22:08,501 Unfortunately, I was too scared to go, so I stayed home. 406 00:22:10,894 --> 00:22:13,810 - Our friend Erin had come to visit, 407 00:22:13,897 --> 00:22:17,684 and we were having a lot of fun together. 408 00:22:17,771 --> 00:22:21,992 But then Brandon started texting Rachel things 409 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:24,473 that we were saying, like almost in that moment, 410 00:22:24,604 --> 00:22:26,475 as in to like respond to it. 411 00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:29,478 [eerie music] 412 00:22:29,609 --> 00:22:33,917 ♪ ♪ 413 00:22:34,048 --> 00:22:36,442 He would contact her on, like, many phones, 414 00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:38,269 so it's not like you could block him. 415 00:22:40,315 --> 00:22:42,622 We were all kind of getting freaked out. 416 00:22:42,709 --> 00:22:45,364 I'm like, we need to check the house 417 00:22:45,494 --> 00:22:47,801 because he has a bug in here. 418 00:22:47,888 --> 00:22:50,586 So we start, like, looking around. 419 00:22:52,893 --> 00:22:55,069 We checked everywhere. 420 00:22:58,681 --> 00:23:02,772 And then Rachel finds this box kind of thing... 421 00:23:05,122 --> 00:23:07,429 Tied to under the bed with her hair ties. 422 00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:13,174 And it ended up being the camera and listening device. 423 00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:18,309 ♪ ♪ 424 00:23:18,353 --> 00:23:20,355 It turns out he had been listening under her bed 425 00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:22,879 for God knows how long. 426 00:23:24,272 --> 00:23:25,926 It's creepy. 427 00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:30,321 And it's just, like, all kinds of wrong. 428 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:35,326 - Rachel called me and it all came together at that moment. 429 00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:39,200 A lot of our conversations took place in her bedroom. 430 00:23:39,287 --> 00:23:43,509 It must have been transmitting to his phone directly. 431 00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:46,686 We felt violated. 432 00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:49,384 Rachel reported it to the police. 433 00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:53,214 They were concerned, but the police did say 434 00:23:53,344 --> 00:23:54,824 that it would be difficult to prove that 435 00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:58,088 it was Brandon who put it in. 436 00:23:58,175 --> 00:24:02,092 I know that several people actually touched the camera, 437 00:24:02,179 --> 00:24:06,619 and so it would be difficult to dust it for fingerprints. 438 00:24:06,749 --> 00:24:11,145 They took a report, but we felt defeated. 439 00:24:11,232 --> 00:24:13,060 - We started to wonder, like, how did he 440 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:16,150 put the camera under the bed? 441 00:24:16,237 --> 00:24:18,065 - My guess is, he broke in through a window 442 00:24:18,195 --> 00:24:22,809 and planted it when she wasn't there. 443 00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:27,466 And that made us very scared for her safety. 444 00:24:27,596 --> 00:24:29,598 One of us mentioned that she should reach out 445 00:24:29,685 --> 00:24:32,209 to Amber and Athena and get their advice 446 00:24:32,253 --> 00:24:33,602 because they've already lived through this. 447 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:38,781 - I thought, wow, camera under her bed. 448 00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:41,828 Oh, shit. 449 00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:44,744 - Hearing that he was hearing her private conversations, 450 00:24:44,831 --> 00:24:47,398 we immediately thought, oh great, like, 451 00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,358 he's gonna know what we've been telling her. 452 00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:54,057 - We spoke on the phone while she was seated on her bed, 453 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:58,888 and now we were all at risk for Brandon's retaliation. 454 00:24:59,019 --> 00:25:02,326 ♪ ♪ 455 00:25:02,457 --> 00:25:05,242 - We said, you need to catch him red-handed. 456 00:25:05,329 --> 00:25:09,072 So the only way we knew to make sure that she had proof 457 00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:13,250 was installing cameras both inside and outside her home. 458 00:25:13,381 --> 00:25:19,822 ♪ ♪ 459 00:25:24,305 --> 00:25:28,701 - At that point, it's not if Brandon will do something, 460 00:25:28,788 --> 00:25:31,181 it's when and what will Brandon do today. 461 00:25:43,106 --> 00:25:44,934 - She had placed cameras in there, 462 00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:46,370 and he was sneaking around her house at night. 463 00:25:46,457 --> 00:25:48,024 Looking through her windows. 464 00:25:52,376 --> 00:25:57,512 And one night, she called me and told me that he had somehow 465 00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:02,256 broken into her place again and turned all the cameras 466 00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:03,910 in her bedroom off. 467 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:12,788 - Rachel did reach out to law enforcement. 468 00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:17,401 They took a report, but we had no idea where he was at. 469 00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:18,794 I panicked. 470 00:26:18,881 --> 00:26:20,970 I told Rachel, whatever it takes, 471 00:26:21,101 --> 00:26:23,582 you need to get that camera back working ASAP. 472 00:26:26,019 --> 00:26:28,717 Then we made a pact that we would check in with each other 473 00:26:28,761 --> 00:26:30,066 several times throughout the day, 474 00:26:30,153 --> 00:26:32,634 just to make sure we were safe. 475 00:26:32,721 --> 00:26:36,246 - I mean, he was gonna stop at nothing. 476 00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:38,901 [eerie music] 477 00:26:39,032 --> 00:26:45,734 ♪ ♪ 478 00:26:45,865 --> 00:26:48,694 - That following Tuesday, she worked 479 00:26:48,781 --> 00:26:50,434 a very, very long shift. 480 00:26:51,914 --> 00:26:54,569 It was dark. It was nighttime. 481 00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,920 I called her several times and she wasn't picking up, 482 00:26:58,007 --> 00:26:59,879 and I was terrified. 483 00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:01,184 [line trills] 484 00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:04,361 My heart rate's probably at 150. 485 00:27:04,448 --> 00:27:08,148 I am debating about calling the cops. 486 00:27:08,191 --> 00:27:11,151 And she finally answers the phone, 487 00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:13,414 and I can hear panic in her voice. 488 00:27:13,501 --> 00:27:19,768 ♪ ♪ 489 00:27:19,855 --> 00:27:23,337 Rachel told me Brandon came out of nowhere 490 00:27:23,424 --> 00:27:24,904 wearing a black sweatshirt 491 00:27:24,991 --> 00:27:28,037 with zip ties around his wrist. 492 00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:31,214 He tried to pull her in the van that he was driving. 493 00:27:31,301 --> 00:27:34,609 [line trilling] 494 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,959 And at that point, 495 00:27:37,046 --> 00:27:39,222 I was calling over and over and over, 496 00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:41,442 and Brandon did hear her phone ringing 497 00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:44,140 and let go of her wrists and allowed her 498 00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:45,925 to escape to her car. 499 00:27:49,363 --> 00:27:53,454 - We advised Rachel to go get a restraining order ASAP. 500 00:27:53,497 --> 00:27:55,499 This is an incredibly scary time 501 00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:56,805 because the minute he knows 502 00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:58,372 that you're going to that extreme, 503 00:27:58,459 --> 00:27:59,895 he will flip on you. 504 00:28:02,593 --> 00:28:06,162 - However, in California, in order for a restraining order 505 00:28:06,249 --> 00:28:09,688 to be valid, not only do you need all the evidence, 506 00:28:09,731 --> 00:28:11,559 but you actually have to serve 507 00:28:11,646 --> 00:28:13,300 the restraining order to the individual. 508 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:20,002 - When we didn't want him around, he was everywhere. 509 00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:22,396 And then when Rachel got a restraining order 510 00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:25,965 and tried to get him to serve him, he was gone. 511 00:28:26,052 --> 00:28:28,924 [suspenseful music] 512 00:28:29,011 --> 00:28:31,231 ♪ ♪ 513 00:28:31,318 --> 00:28:34,538 - On March 1st, Rachel told everybody 514 00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:36,410 she wanted to stay at home 515 00:28:36,497 --> 00:28:38,891 because she had a hot date with her laundry. 516 00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:46,855 And then Brandon called Rachel and she answered. 517 00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:52,469 - Since Rachel wasn't able to find him, 518 00:28:52,513 --> 00:28:54,863 she basically sat on FaceTime with him 519 00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:57,170 while she was doing laundry so that she could 520 00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:00,956 try and find out where he was so that she could serve him. 521 00:29:01,087 --> 00:29:02,741 - By the end of the call, you know, 522 00:29:02,871 --> 00:29:04,394 he's trying to flirt with me. 523 00:29:04,481 --> 00:29:06,309 Like, he's complimenting me like, oh, you look 524 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,877 really cute in that tank top. 525 00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:13,099 You know, I'm still talking to him, 526 00:29:13,229 --> 00:29:15,405 just trying to have some type of information on 527 00:29:15,449 --> 00:29:17,843 where he's staying in order to try to get him served, 528 00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:20,323 but he's like, let me come see you. 529 00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:22,325 It's like, no, we're not doing this. 530 00:29:22,456 --> 00:29:25,067 This is not a relationship anymore by any means. 531 00:29:25,154 --> 00:29:30,072 And so I hung up the phone and then I just went to sleep. 532 00:29:32,727 --> 00:29:35,512 - The next morning, Rachel called me 533 00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:39,603 and it was a phone call I will never, ever forget. 534 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:42,606 [eerie music] 535 00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:44,304 ♪ ♪ 536 00:29:44,434 --> 00:29:47,481 [knocking] 537 00:29:56,055 --> 00:30:00,668 That night, she was asleep. 538 00:30:00,755 --> 00:30:03,758 Brandon broke into her house. 539 00:30:06,848 --> 00:30:10,156 Next thing she knew is, Brandon was in her room. 540 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,339 - And he's having sex with her. 541 00:30:19,426 --> 00:30:22,037 - And she was telling him no and he did not listen. 542 00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:26,563 - I mean, he's a huge guy too. 543 00:30:26,650 --> 00:30:29,001 I mean, he's like, I don't know, 6'2". 544 00:30:29,131 --> 00:30:31,003 He's built. 545 00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:34,397 You know, it was heartbreaking to hear that 546 00:30:34,528 --> 00:30:36,356 from your best friend. 547 00:30:36,443 --> 00:30:39,098 [somber music] 548 00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:41,187 ♪ ♪ 549 00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:45,539 - It was very shocking that after that night, 550 00:30:45,626 --> 00:30:50,457 Brandon acted like he did not think he did anything wrong. 551 00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:54,200 But he did. He went in there unannounced. 552 00:30:54,287 --> 00:30:57,812 She told him no, and she was incredibly scared. 553 00:30:59,553 --> 00:31:04,427 I truly think Brandon had everything mapped out. 554 00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:08,562 But the camera that was in Rachel's room 555 00:31:08,649 --> 00:31:10,477 that captured the assault, 556 00:31:10,564 --> 00:31:13,610 Brandon thought he disabled, and he did not. 557 00:31:16,048 --> 00:31:20,617 - I tried to like, talk to her and asked if she wanted 558 00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:23,446 to contact law enforcement. 559 00:31:23,577 --> 00:31:25,318 She didn't want to at the time. 560 00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:29,191 I think there's a lot of shame, you know, 561 00:31:29,278 --> 00:31:32,586 with sexual assault victims of even going forward. 562 00:31:32,673 --> 00:31:34,588 A lot of people feel like it's their fault. 563 00:31:34,718 --> 00:31:36,677 It was just really sad. 564 00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:43,379 - The next day, Rachel had to go to the police station 565 00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:46,861 for all the documentation for the restraining order, 566 00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:50,821 and she started receiving text messages from Brandon. 567 00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:54,173 He was worried. 568 00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:58,394 And once she receives all of these text messages, 569 00:31:58,481 --> 00:32:02,703 it's very apparent that he was still tracking her. 570 00:32:02,833 --> 00:32:05,445 [suspenseful music] 571 00:32:05,575 --> 00:32:08,361 ♪ ♪ 572 00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:13,627 I got pissed, and so I told Rachel, you know what? 573 00:32:13,714 --> 00:32:15,107 This is how we're gonna get him. 574 00:32:15,194 --> 00:32:17,283 You tell him, you text message him 575 00:32:17,413 --> 00:32:19,633 that he needs to come in person to take 576 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,723 that tracker off your car, and he needs to meet you now. 577 00:32:22,810 --> 00:32:27,467 ♪ ♪ 578 00:32:27,554 --> 00:32:30,861 So once Brandon agreed to meet Rachel, 579 00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:34,126 she got a friend to serve him the restraining order. 580 00:32:37,477 --> 00:32:39,392 I was relieved that he was served, 581 00:32:39,479 --> 00:32:42,525 but I knew that it would make him more mad. 582 00:32:49,228 --> 00:32:52,274 On March 11th, Rachel and I had to go to court 583 00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:54,885 to get that no-contact order ratified, 584 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:57,540 and we were expecting Brandon to show up. 585 00:32:57,627 --> 00:32:59,673 Brandon was not there. 586 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,979 He was on a Zoom call, 587 00:33:01,066 --> 00:33:02,981 and also, Brandon's camera was off, 588 00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:06,288 so we didn't know if he was in Washington or California. 589 00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:11,250 And then he requested for the court date 590 00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:16,168 to be changed to a later date so he could obtain a lawyer. 591 00:33:16,298 --> 00:33:18,518 And that is what happened. 592 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,914 But he knew that there was no going back. 593 00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:27,222 And since he knew that, what now? 594 00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:35,491 - It's March 11th, I'm downstairs, 595 00:33:35,578 --> 00:33:37,841 talking to Amber on the phone. 596 00:33:37,972 --> 00:33:40,583 As we're talking, I receive a text message 597 00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:43,760 from a close friend of Brandon's. 598 00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:45,762 - Brandon had texted him. 599 00:33:45,893 --> 00:33:48,461 This is it. I'm gonna end it. 600 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:50,245 Bitches pushed me too far. 601 00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:52,987 Who were the bitches? 602 00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:55,337 Me? Athena? Rachel? 603 00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:57,078 All of us? 604 00:33:57,165 --> 00:34:01,300 [tense music] 605 00:34:01,387 --> 00:34:04,651 And then I get a video, and it shows him driving 606 00:34:04,781 --> 00:34:06,653 in a truck or some rented car, 607 00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:10,657 and he's got what appears to be a gun in his seat. 608 00:34:12,614 --> 00:34:14,181 - That was the scary part. 609 00:34:14,268 --> 00:34:16,706 I've never seen him with a gun. 610 00:34:18,534 --> 00:34:22,103 He is not legally allowed to carry a gun. 611 00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:26,585 The fact that he would risk doing that in a car 612 00:34:26,672 --> 00:34:29,589 and sending a video means that the man is cracked. 613 00:34:31,851 --> 00:34:37,118 - He clearly had serious intentions with that gun. 614 00:34:37,248 --> 00:34:41,034 Something bad is about to go down. 615 00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:45,387 ♪ ♪ 616 00:34:45,474 --> 00:34:48,998 - After everything going on with Brandon, 617 00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:51,567 Rachel and I decided to go have a drink. 618 00:34:51,654 --> 00:34:54,614 Randomly, an old friend, Austin, 619 00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:57,704 reached out to her for the first time in quite some time. 620 00:34:57,791 --> 00:35:01,403 - I didn't actually know she was going to court that morning 621 00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:05,190 for the restraining order, so I called Rachel that day 622 00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:08,149 asking her, are you available later that night? 623 00:35:08,236 --> 00:35:12,719 - Austin is a very mellow, chill kind of guy. 624 00:35:12,849 --> 00:35:14,199 He's the complete opposite of Brandon, 625 00:35:14,286 --> 00:35:17,115 and I thought it was perfect. 626 00:35:17,202 --> 00:35:18,899 - She had a stressful day, so I think 627 00:35:19,029 --> 00:35:22,511 it was relieving for her that she wanted company to come over 628 00:35:22,598 --> 00:35:24,296 and she was happy. 629 00:35:24,383 --> 00:35:26,602 - We went back to Rachel's house. 630 00:35:26,689 --> 00:35:30,171 I think Austin showed up about 30 minutes after I left. 631 00:35:30,302 --> 00:35:34,915 I had no idea that that could have been the last time 632 00:35:35,002 --> 00:35:36,830 I ever saw my best friend. 633 00:35:44,881 --> 00:35:47,449 [soft music] 634 00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:53,542 ♪ ♪ 635 00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:54,674 - Okay. 636 00:35:54,717 --> 00:35:55,979 - Are you sure you're ready for this? 637 00:35:56,066 --> 00:35:57,851 - Yeah. 638 00:35:57,938 --> 00:35:58,939 Yeah, let's try. 639 00:35:59,026 --> 00:36:00,549 Okay. 640 00:36:00,636 --> 00:36:02,377 - Okay. 641 00:36:02,508 --> 00:36:04,510 - You never think that something like this 642 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,555 is gonna happen to you. 643 00:36:06,642 --> 00:36:09,950 And you do, you think, this is just the stuff I see on TV. 644 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,649 And...[chuckles] I was wrong. 645 00:36:13,736 --> 00:36:17,523 [eerie music] 646 00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:19,438 That night, Austin and I were just over at my house, 647 00:36:19,525 --> 00:36:22,571 and it felt like a great way to just forget 648 00:36:22,702 --> 00:36:24,138 about everything that was happening. 649 00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:28,273 - We're in her room. 650 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,535 She wanted somebody that she knew 651 00:36:29,622 --> 00:36:31,014 she could trust to be around. 652 00:36:33,843 --> 00:36:36,106 - Austin and I are just having casual conversation, 653 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:41,111 and then all of a sudden, I noticed this light 654 00:36:41,242 --> 00:36:43,070 appears on his forehead. 655 00:36:43,157 --> 00:36:45,594 - And then all I see is a big light 656 00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:47,205 just walking through the door. 657 00:36:49,381 --> 00:36:51,557 - Austin's expression abruptly changed. 658 00:36:54,429 --> 00:36:56,039 I knew when I was about to turn around 659 00:36:56,126 --> 00:36:58,346 that it wasn't something good. 660 00:37:00,522 --> 00:37:03,482 - I knew who it was. 661 00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:06,572 Brandon had appeared out of nowhere, 662 00:37:06,659 --> 00:37:08,748 and it looked like a gun in his hand. 663 00:37:12,142 --> 00:37:13,318 - He had a knife in his hand. 664 00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:15,581 I was really scared. 665 00:37:15,668 --> 00:37:20,890 - There was this just negative dark energy coming from him. 666 00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:24,633 - There was no exit. 667 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,853 Rachel was sitting next to me. 668 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:29,899 I felt trapped. 669 00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:34,077 - My mind attempted to protect me, to tell me to stay calm. 670 00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:36,123 And there isn't really a man in here with a gun 671 00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:37,820 pointing at you who's here to attack you. 672 00:37:37,907 --> 00:37:42,390 So my instinct was to attempt to talk to him, 673 00:37:42,477 --> 00:37:44,610 to bring him out of it in a way. 674 00:37:44,653 --> 00:37:47,134 What are you doing here? 675 00:37:47,221 --> 00:37:49,310 Give me that. - No. 676 00:37:49,397 --> 00:37:50,311 - But there was no getting through. 677 00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:52,879 - You're looking at her right now? 678 00:37:52,966 --> 00:37:54,228 - Yeah. - Brandon! 679 00:37:54,315 --> 00:37:55,751 - So you're looking at her now? 680 00:37:55,838 --> 00:37:59,538 - He put me into a headlock. 681 00:37:59,668 --> 00:38:01,888 It became clear that as I attempted to struggle, 682 00:38:02,018 --> 00:38:05,239 he was not gonna be letting me go. 683 00:38:05,326 --> 00:38:06,545 - You're looking at her right now? 684 00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:08,242 - Yes. 685 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:09,765 - This man has a strength that I don't possess. 686 00:38:09,852 --> 00:38:11,898 And he pinned me down with his forearm. 687 00:38:11,985 --> 00:38:13,116 - You know who I am? 688 00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:15,031 - [grunts] [thud] 689 00:38:15,118 --> 00:38:17,556 - And then he hit me straight on the forehead. 690 00:38:17,643 --> 00:38:20,298 And the gun or the knife split my forehead open. 691 00:38:20,385 --> 00:38:22,778 You just cut my head with a knife. 692 00:38:22,865 --> 00:38:26,608 It was a pretty good amount of blood dripping down my face. 693 00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:28,523 - I'm gonna fucking shoot you right now. 694 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,873 - And then was just screaming and yelling, you know, 695 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,745 I'm gonna blow your head off. I'm gonna kill you both. 696 00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,138 - Do it and I'll shoot you, little fuckers. 697 00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:37,053 - Are you serious right now? 698 00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:38,881 Throwing her against the wall. 699 00:38:38,968 --> 00:38:40,666 That's what made me freak out. 700 00:38:40,709 --> 00:38:42,537 - I'm fucking shoot your fucking head off. 701 00:38:42,624 --> 00:38:44,278 - I jumped up off the bed. 702 00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,106 There was no thinking. There was no thought. 703 00:38:46,193 --> 00:38:47,890 It was just go. 704 00:38:47,934 --> 00:38:50,545 [Rachel yelling] 705 00:38:50,632 --> 00:38:51,851 - Fuck out of my way, man. 706 00:38:51,938 --> 00:38:53,940 [both grunting] 707 00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:55,768 - He had that gun in his hand. 708 00:38:55,855 --> 00:38:58,814 I had grabbed him, and he had shot it off 709 00:38:58,901 --> 00:39:00,555 and it had missed me. 710 00:39:00,642 --> 00:39:02,862 But after I heard that first initial pop, 711 00:39:02,949 --> 00:39:05,647 that's when I figured out that, oh, this isn't a gun. 712 00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:08,258 Seeing the cords coming out of the tip of it, 713 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,696 I found out this is a Taser. 714 00:39:10,783 --> 00:39:12,959 But he still did have that knife in his hand. 715 00:39:13,046 --> 00:39:15,440 Hey! Calm the fuck down! 716 00:39:15,527 --> 00:39:17,180 - They were wrestling and fighting 717 00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:18,791 and things were moving fast. 718 00:39:18,878 --> 00:39:20,923 Brandon! Stop it. 719 00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:23,665 [overlapping yelling] 720 00:39:23,752 --> 00:39:26,059 - I had to seize whatever moment I could 721 00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:27,713 to grab my phone and call the police. 722 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,845 - Calm the fuck down! 723 00:39:29,932 --> 00:39:32,370 - And then actually holding my phone, 724 00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:35,068 the fear and overwhelm was really starting to come in. 725 00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,244 - Calm down now! 726 00:39:37,287 --> 00:39:38,637 Calm down! 727 00:39:38,724 --> 00:39:40,987 - And I just froze and was like, 728 00:39:41,117 --> 00:39:42,728 what--what phone number do I dial? 729 00:39:42,771 --> 00:39:43,946 Where's the phone button? 730 00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:45,295 It was just so overwhelming. 731 00:39:45,339 --> 00:39:47,820 - Calm now! 732 00:39:47,907 --> 00:39:49,169 You done? 733 00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:50,431 He was a lot bigger than me, 734 00:39:50,518 --> 00:39:52,433 but I had trained in jiu jitsu, 735 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,914 so finally I choked him unconscious. 736 00:39:57,656 --> 00:40:00,441 - Finally, I was able to pull myself back in 737 00:40:00,528 --> 00:40:04,184 to actually make that phone call to the police. 738 00:40:04,271 --> 00:40:06,882 - Please, walk out. 739 00:40:07,013 --> 00:40:09,319 At that point, I started taking him out of the house, 740 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:10,756 and that's when I heard the sirens. 741 00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:13,411 [sirens wailing] 742 00:40:13,498 --> 00:40:16,675 - Hey, Brandon. Come here. 743 00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:18,764 - The cops kind of swarmed in. 744 00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:20,940 - Stop fighting! 745 00:40:20,983 --> 00:40:23,508 - Don't fight me. Stop! You're gonna get tased. 746 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:25,335 You're gonna get tased! 747 00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:27,555 - Get down on the ground now! 748 00:40:27,642 --> 00:40:29,296 Get on the ground! - Okay, okay. 749 00:40:29,383 --> 00:40:32,168 - And it looked like they started to subdue him, 750 00:40:32,212 --> 00:40:35,345 putting one handcuff around his wrist. 751 00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:36,782 - Get on-- - Hey, Brandon. 752 00:40:36,869 --> 00:40:38,131 Come here. 753 00:40:38,218 --> 00:40:39,437 - And he took off down the street. 754 00:40:39,524 --> 00:40:41,351 [indistinct radio chatter] 755 00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:42,875 - Pop that fence. 756 00:40:42,962 --> 00:40:45,791 24-40. Go back to his car. 757 00:40:45,921 --> 00:40:48,794 He's working his way back towards that. 758 00:40:48,924 --> 00:40:50,404 He's right there to your right. 759 00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:52,624 - He was just in here. - Hands up. 760 00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:55,975 - Brandon! Come out! 761 00:40:56,018 --> 00:40:57,498 - Get down on the ground now! 762 00:40:57,585 --> 00:40:59,282 Get down on the ground now! 763 00:40:59,369 --> 00:41:01,807 - Get down on the ground, Brandon! 764 00:41:01,937 --> 00:41:04,026 - You're gonna get tased. Taser. 765 00:41:04,157 --> 00:41:06,855 - Oh, God damn, stop. 766 00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:08,074 Oh, fuck. 767 00:41:08,161 --> 00:41:09,554 - Here, I got him. 768 00:41:09,641 --> 00:41:11,077 Yeah, we're good. 769 00:41:11,164 --> 00:41:13,035 [indistinct radio chatter] 770 00:41:13,166 --> 00:41:14,080 - Taser, three times? 771 00:41:14,167 --> 00:41:15,385 - Five. 772 00:41:15,429 --> 00:41:17,083 [sirens wailing] 773 00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:19,868 - Finally, when they arrested him, took him to jail, 774 00:41:19,955 --> 00:41:22,915 we just went, what the heck just happened? 775 00:41:23,002 --> 00:41:26,005 [tense music] 776 00:41:26,135 --> 00:41:27,963 ♪ ♪ 777 00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,096 - Once Brandon was arrested, 778 00:41:30,226 --> 00:41:32,402 the police collected the evidence. 779 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,667 And I noticed that on the inside of the sweatshirt, 780 00:41:35,797 --> 00:41:37,930 there's strips of duct tape. 781 00:41:38,017 --> 00:41:39,627 Why? 782 00:41:39,714 --> 00:41:40,585 Why would there be strips of duct tape 783 00:41:40,628 --> 00:41:42,500 on the inside of the sweater? 784 00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:46,939 And then I started to just look at the officers' faces, 785 00:41:46,982 --> 00:41:49,115 watching them pull things out of the truck. 786 00:41:49,202 --> 00:41:55,556 I remember watching one of the deputies pull a wig out. 787 00:41:59,429 --> 00:42:03,651 There was a huge shift where everyone was quiet. 788 00:42:03,738 --> 00:42:07,699 But I remember looking at that wig and thinking, 789 00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:12,660 why does he have a wig of long hair 790 00:42:12,747 --> 00:42:17,056 that happens to be the opposite color of my hair? 791 00:42:17,186 --> 00:42:21,669 ♪ ♪ 792 00:42:21,756 --> 00:42:23,932 - When the police talked to Brandon, 793 00:42:24,019 --> 00:42:26,456 I knew that he was a person that was gonna try to 794 00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:29,372 change the story, to flip the script, to try to get out 795 00:42:29,459 --> 00:42:30,678 of anything he could. 796 00:42:33,246 --> 00:42:35,422 - This is kind of your one time to give us 797 00:42:35,509 --> 00:42:36,249 your side of the story. 798 00:42:36,336 --> 00:42:39,818 This is your time to-- 799 00:42:39,905 --> 00:42:41,863 to tell us how everything makes sense. 800 00:42:41,950 --> 00:42:45,954 - I couldn't really tell you what story 801 00:42:46,041 --> 00:42:49,175 he would come up with, but just that I could 802 00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,830 100% tell you that he would not tell the truth. 803 00:43:09,761 --> 00:43:11,371 - Rachel and Brandon were together 804 00:43:11,458 --> 00:43:13,112 for four or five months. 805 00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,723 I mean, Rachel and I didn't have any communication 806 00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:17,377 out of respect for that relationship. 807 00:43:17,507 --> 00:43:22,512 - So she asked you to place this device on her son's car? 808 00:43:39,965 --> 00:43:43,577 - I would never ask Brandon to put a tracker on my son's car. 809 00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:54,806 [tense music] 810 00:43:54,936 --> 00:44:01,595 ♪ ♪ 811 00:44:01,682 --> 00:44:03,162 Did she ask you to put the camera there? 812 00:44:15,653 --> 00:44:17,567 - It felt very violating. 813 00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:19,700 Absolutely disgusting. 814 00:44:19,787 --> 00:44:23,356 It's violating in every way. 815 00:44:40,939 --> 00:44:43,158 - The DA told me that Brandon had 816 00:44:43,289 --> 00:44:46,901 a completely different story of what happened that night. 817 00:44:46,988 --> 00:44:50,426 But what they didn't know is that this was all on videotape. 818 00:44:50,557 --> 00:44:55,693 ♪ ♪ 819 00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:58,347 - I only remembered the next morning 820 00:44:58,434 --> 00:45:01,873 that I had that camera on my dresser. 821 00:45:01,916 --> 00:45:05,920 And when I informed the detective 822 00:45:06,007 --> 00:45:08,096 that I had a recording of everything that happened, 823 00:45:08,227 --> 00:45:11,752 he was surprised and very much elated 824 00:45:11,883 --> 00:45:15,321 that they had everything they needed. 825 00:45:15,451 --> 00:45:17,889 I knew that Amber and Athena were concerned, 826 00:45:17,976 --> 00:45:20,021 so I reached out to let them know 827 00:45:20,108 --> 00:45:22,981 that the event had actually been caught on camera. 828 00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:29,204 - When we learned there was a camera that caught the attack 829 00:45:29,291 --> 00:45:33,339 and everything, it was just, like, jumping up and down. 830 00:45:33,469 --> 00:45:35,384 Like, we got him, we got him. 831 00:45:35,471 --> 00:45:39,214 And I cannot wait to see them play that video for him. 832 00:45:39,258 --> 00:45:42,087 I cannot wait. 833 00:45:42,174 --> 00:45:43,653 - Would it surprise you if Rachael had a camera 834 00:45:43,697 --> 00:45:45,090 set up in her bedroom? 835 00:45:47,396 --> 00:45:49,007 Because she does. 836 00:45:49,094 --> 00:45:52,314 - Yeah, she has a camera in there that captured 837 00:45:52,358 --> 00:45:53,881 Friday night's incident. 838 00:45:56,971 --> 00:45:58,190 - And it paints a different picture 839 00:45:58,277 --> 00:45:59,539 than what you're telling us. 840 00:45:59,669 --> 00:46:00,496 - I'm gonna go grab a file real quick. 841 00:46:00,583 --> 00:46:01,628 - Sure. 842 00:46:03,456 --> 00:46:07,939 - He was clearly surprised it was a working camera 843 00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:11,899 because he had made an attempt to disable it. 844 00:46:15,033 --> 00:46:15,903 - There we go. 845 00:46:31,527 --> 00:46:34,269 - The beauty of the video is that it shows that 846 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,619 he clearly puts me in a headlock and pins me down. 847 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,970 Yeah, I mean, does that several times. 848 00:46:45,672 --> 00:46:47,108 - What are you doing in-- 849 00:46:47,195 --> 00:46:48,240 - I'll fucking shoot you. I'll shoot you. 850 00:46:48,327 --> 00:46:49,589 Shut the fuck up! 851 00:46:54,594 --> 00:46:58,119 - I heard when Brandon was shown the video, 852 00:46:58,206 --> 00:46:59,033 he can't handle it. 853 00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:04,604 - Because there's no getting out of this one. 854 00:47:04,734 --> 00:47:06,867 - Gotta do it. Gotta shoot you. 855 00:47:06,954 --> 00:47:08,869 - No. Are you serious right now? 856 00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:32,327 - Shortly after, the DA came over, sat me down, 857 00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:36,897 and showed me a picture they had of all the things 858 00:47:36,984 --> 00:47:39,160 he had in his truck. 859 00:47:39,247 --> 00:47:44,035 In addition to this wig, there were handcuffs, 860 00:47:44,165 --> 00:47:48,343 and there were zip ties, and there was tape. 861 00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:51,042 And it was in that moment that... 862 00:47:53,044 --> 00:47:54,349 I looked at the picture 863 00:47:54,436 --> 00:47:58,397 and it was like something out of a scary movie. 864 00:48:22,725 --> 00:48:23,988 - It didn't make any sense. 865 00:48:24,031 --> 00:48:26,077 And I believe the only intention 866 00:48:26,207 --> 00:48:27,643 behind having something like that 867 00:48:27,774 --> 00:48:30,516 would be to disguise somebody. 868 00:48:30,603 --> 00:48:33,388 And then following up with the thought of, 869 00:48:33,475 --> 00:48:37,871 why would he need to disguise me? 870 00:49:10,512 --> 00:49:14,429 - It was conveyed to me at that time, 871 00:49:14,516 --> 00:49:19,521 his plan was to kidnap and rape me at minimum. 872 00:49:19,652 --> 00:49:23,743 But at what point do you get kidnapped and set free? 873 00:49:23,830 --> 00:49:29,183 ♪ ♪ 874 00:49:33,448 --> 00:49:35,798 - It's Rachel, right? - Correct, yes. 875 00:49:35,885 --> 00:49:37,496 - Are you okay? - Sorry. 876 00:49:37,583 --> 00:49:39,933 I didn't believe it. 877 00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:44,024 There's a person out there that claimed to love me. 878 00:49:44,155 --> 00:49:47,854 I didn't believe that they were also capable 879 00:49:47,941 --> 00:49:53,033 of also having the intention to kidnap and rape me. 880 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,123 It was--it was gut-punching. 881 00:49:58,691 --> 00:50:01,302 [eerie music] 882 00:50:01,433 --> 00:50:03,565 ♪ ♪ 883 00:50:03,652 --> 00:50:09,397 But then when I discovered that his plan was possibly 884 00:50:09,528 --> 00:50:12,270 even worse than I thought. 885 00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:17,666 A short while after the attack, I was in my garage, 886 00:50:17,753 --> 00:50:22,715 and I stumbled across a shopping bag 887 00:50:22,802 --> 00:50:26,153 that contained ammonia and bleach 888 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,286 that I knew I had never purchased. 889 00:50:28,373 --> 00:50:31,941 Clearly, somebody else had placed it there. 890 00:50:32,072 --> 00:50:34,205 Why? 891 00:50:34,335 --> 00:50:40,080 And then that got me thinking that his plan was 892 00:50:40,167 --> 00:50:41,951 possibly even worse than I thought. 893 00:50:44,824 --> 00:50:49,220 And having to have that conversation with my son, 894 00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:54,616 and just see the fear in his face 895 00:50:54,703 --> 00:50:57,532 and his voice about-- 896 00:50:57,619 --> 00:50:59,491 so Mom, like, really there was a chance 897 00:50:59,578 --> 00:51:01,493 that like, I wouldn't-- 898 00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:03,060 there's a possible chance that I was 899 00:51:03,147 --> 00:51:04,974 never gonna see you again? 900 00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:10,110 You know, so to have to hear him say those words, 901 00:51:10,241 --> 00:51:13,809 that's when it was-- became really devastating. 902 00:51:16,247 --> 00:51:19,119 [tense music] 903 00:51:19,206 --> 00:51:21,904 ♪ ♪ 904 00:51:22,035 --> 00:51:26,170 - My main concern was, he's extremely manipulative, 905 00:51:26,257 --> 00:51:29,608 he's well-spoken, good looking, he's charming. 906 00:51:29,695 --> 00:51:32,132 I worried if he gets in front of a jury, 907 00:51:32,219 --> 00:51:33,742 how is he gonna come across? 908 00:51:35,701 --> 00:51:39,748 - Even though I had the video, my worry was 909 00:51:39,835 --> 00:51:41,272 what his side was gonna be. 910 00:51:41,402 --> 00:51:46,103 ♪ ♪ 911 00:51:46,146 --> 00:51:49,932 I remember Amber and Athena offering me advice 912 00:51:50,019 --> 00:51:52,370 on how to proceed legally, 913 00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:56,025 and to do it in a way that creates a paper trail, 914 00:51:56,113 --> 00:51:59,507 because he had a way of flipping things 915 00:51:59,594 --> 00:52:02,075 within the legal system and creating false documents 916 00:52:02,206 --> 00:52:04,425 to support his side of things. 917 00:52:05,992 --> 00:52:07,950 [phone rings] 918 00:52:08,081 --> 00:52:10,692 - My phone rings, and a detective 919 00:52:10,779 --> 00:52:14,174 with the El Dorado Hills Police Department is calling. 920 00:52:14,261 --> 00:52:16,045 - At this point, Brandon was in custody 921 00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:17,873 and Detective Chris Macres 922 00:52:17,917 --> 00:52:19,614 was really trying to build his case, 923 00:52:19,745 --> 00:52:22,617 and he reached out to myself and Athena to get our help. 924 00:52:24,489 --> 00:52:27,056 - Thankfully, because of the podcast, 925 00:52:27,144 --> 00:52:30,321 we had documented all of Brandon's criminal charges, 926 00:52:30,408 --> 00:52:33,889 even just timelines, events, women. 927 00:52:33,933 --> 00:52:36,457 - Having the two ex-wives school them 928 00:52:36,544 --> 00:52:41,506 on Brandon Johnson was kind of eye-opening for him. 929 00:52:41,636 --> 00:52:44,857 - All the evidence painted a very clear picture 930 00:52:44,944 --> 00:52:48,295 for those detectives to see that, wow, 931 00:52:48,382 --> 00:52:51,211 this is so much bigger than just this incident 932 00:52:51,298 --> 00:52:53,605 here in California. 933 00:52:53,692 --> 00:52:56,390 But by the end of this, Amber and myself 934 00:52:56,521 --> 00:52:58,392 were never subpoenaed to go to court 935 00:52:58,479 --> 00:53:00,046 because the case against Brandon 936 00:53:00,133 --> 00:53:02,527 was so strong it wasn't needed. 937 00:53:02,657 --> 00:53:05,878 [soft music] 938 00:53:05,965 --> 00:53:08,794 - I receive the phone call that 939 00:53:08,881 --> 00:53:14,147 there's a deal on the table, a plea deal of ten years. 940 00:53:17,019 --> 00:53:21,546 And I remember asking, do you think this is fair? 941 00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:25,854 And my representation said yes. 942 00:53:25,941 --> 00:53:28,379 And then I was like, okay, 943 00:53:28,422 --> 00:53:31,817 that seems valuable enough to me. 944 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,694 - He's going to jail for 10 years. 945 00:53:39,825 --> 00:53:41,130 - Solid? 946 00:53:41,261 --> 00:53:44,003 - No option to dispute it, 947 00:53:44,090 --> 00:53:47,224 ten years in the slammer. 948 00:53:47,311 --> 00:53:49,313 - Oh, my God. 949 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,228 - I feel like I should cry, but I can't. 950 00:53:51,315 --> 00:53:52,968 I think I'm just in shock. 951 00:53:53,099 --> 00:53:54,927 - Yeah. 952 00:53:55,014 --> 00:53:56,711 This was the moment that I've been waiting 953 00:53:56,798 --> 00:53:58,887 probably 16 years for. 954 00:53:59,018 --> 00:54:02,500 It's just a very long time to wait for justice to be served. 955 00:54:02,587 --> 00:54:06,808 ♪ ♪ 956 00:54:06,895 --> 00:54:08,549 - In all honesty, he deserves so much more. 957 00:54:08,636 --> 00:54:10,508 He really does. 958 00:54:10,595 --> 00:54:15,077 But there was just relief that now he was 959 00:54:15,208 --> 00:54:17,471 going to start his prison sentence. 960 00:54:20,866 --> 00:54:22,824 - Our mission statement on the podcast at the very beginning 961 00:54:22,911 --> 00:54:25,305 was that women had each other's back. 962 00:54:25,392 --> 00:54:30,397 And I did very much feel that... 963 00:54:30,528 --> 00:54:35,750 that this was vindication, so to speak. 964 00:54:35,837 --> 00:54:38,536 - I'm definitely very grateful for Amber and Athena, 965 00:54:38,623 --> 00:54:41,103 for their support and their guidance. 966 00:54:41,234 --> 00:54:43,671 Without that, we wouldn't have taken 967 00:54:43,802 --> 00:54:46,457 a lot of the protective measures that we did. 968 00:54:46,544 --> 00:54:50,809 And I think they're important as to why Rachel's safe. 969 00:54:53,638 --> 00:54:55,292 - After everything that had happened, 970 00:54:55,422 --> 00:54:59,296 I realized that someone's kind of taken something from you, 971 00:54:59,383 --> 00:55:03,648 but you can take it back. 972 00:55:03,778 --> 00:55:07,434 And that's been really important for me. 973 00:55:10,742 --> 00:55:13,527 [wind chimes tinkling] 974 00:55:13,614 --> 00:55:17,488 Sadly, Brandon will never change his ways. 975 00:55:17,575 --> 00:55:23,058 He is who he is, and this is just an evil person. 976 00:55:23,145 --> 00:55:25,713 There's another woman out there who's potentially 977 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,849 his next victim, and I just don't want anyone else 978 00:55:30,936 --> 00:55:33,460 to have to ever go through that. 979 00:55:33,547 --> 00:55:36,637 Brandon Johnson will never win. 980 00:55:36,724 --> 00:55:39,901 I won't allow it. Mm-mm. 981 00:55:39,988 --> 00:55:43,862 [hopeful music] 982 00:55:43,949 --> 00:55:48,519 - The big change I would make is to have a database, 983 00:55:48,562 --> 00:55:52,349 a system put into place to make sure that if you are entering 984 00:55:52,479 --> 00:55:54,960 a domestic relationship, no matter where you were, 985 00:55:55,047 --> 00:55:59,094 you would see that person's, all of their criminal activity. 986 00:55:59,181 --> 00:56:02,402 We could lobby. We could make a change. 987 00:56:05,536 --> 00:56:08,103 - Brandon Johnsons exist all around the world 988 00:56:08,147 --> 00:56:11,498 in different sizes, shapes, names. 989 00:56:11,585 --> 00:56:13,587 They--they're out there. 990 00:56:13,718 --> 00:56:15,937 So we're not gonna allow them to terrorize women anymore. 991 00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,595 [soft dramatic music] 992 00:56:21,682 --> 00:56:28,472 ♪ ♪ 75260

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