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BKS Iyengar.
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Courage.
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What a man.
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What a teacher.
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Speaking about Iyengar is
like speaking about a mountain.
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We say that he lived to
be this many years old.
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He was born in the
great influenza outbreak
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that his mother was
afflicted with while she
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was pregnant with him.
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But what does that
speak to of a man?
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First, he was my father.
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Later, as I began to understand
things, he became a teacher.
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And obviously, he is a guru.
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And although my teacher
in Glasgow talked very--
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with great reference
about Mr. Iyengar,
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that was the first time
I heard the term Guruji.
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And it was obvious in the
way these people talked
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and their demeanor the
huge influence he had,
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the great respect
that they had for him,
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the love that they had for him.
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I was in a bookstore when
I was just a 21-year-old man
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and was intrigued by the photos
that I saw with that book that
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we have come to see as the
treatise of what yoga really
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could be.
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And opening the book
and watching the pictures,
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I was totally amazed that the
master was totally keeping
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the control of the body.
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I was interested as to who is
this person and how can he have
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the same expression on his face,
irrespective of whether the leg
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is around his neck or whether
he's standing straight.
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And when I saw the
book Light on Yoga,
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I was so enthusiastic to
meet this man and to meet him
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in person and get
teaching from him.
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I had heard so
much about him,
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and I had heard of him
in such high esteem.
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And I remember holding my breath
when I heard his footsteps
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and he opened the
door and walked in,
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chest first, a mighty man
in simple white kurta.
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So the first time I
think that I saw him,
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what struck me was
how royal he looked--
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his immaculately pressed
silk dhoti or his silver hair
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and bushy eyebrows.
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He walked into the room, and
suddenly there was this light.
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And I just knew,
this is the man was
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going to teach me everything.
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And when he came
out into the platform,
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his energy filled the room.
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He was not a tall man.
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He was a short man,
but his energy which
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very tall and very expansive.
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And something inside
of me at that moment
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knew that my life
was forever changed.
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It was a moment where from
the first moment I knew that
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this was something very
special that I had encountered
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I didn't actually realize
that he is something special.
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My father is something special.
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I could see that he's
different than others.
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He performs something
in a different way.
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It was awe and
wonder, and it was--
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there was something very
engaging about it that made me
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want to do better, to study
the subject more, to practice,
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and really get more into it.
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He was so inspiring.
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I then when I was 16 or
17 years old when I started
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catching.
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He realized that no more I am
taking it as earlier as a child
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will do.
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Somewhere he found
that I'm serious
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about it regularly doing.
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And then, my father understood
that I'm really keen about it,
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and he started instructing
me the right way
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of doing what has to be done--
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how I have to lift
myself, what has to be--
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what has to happen
in that asana,
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if I'm straightening myself.
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Whether it's straightening of
limbs or lifting of the spine.
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We were fortunate in Pune
when we were here to see Guruji
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not just be the guru--
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a guru.
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We saw him when he was
teaching, how he taught.
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And he taught in a
way which was amazing.
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It was masterful
the way he taught.
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In the classroom,
he was formidable.
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We were all in awe,
slightly scared.
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Absolutely fearful and really
wondering whatever was going
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to happen.
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From the first time
he walked into the room,
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into that yoga
hall, was, for me,
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was just like a lightning
bolt. He was so relentless,
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and he was so challenging,
and he was so confronting,
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but he was also
entirely captivating.
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We would just whisper amongst
ourselves that the prowler has
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entered the class, because
he really was like a lion.
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And he would prowl
around the class
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with these leonine strides and
basically strike fear in your--
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in anybody's heart.
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Like most many students, we
were very, very afraid of him.
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The Guruji came into our
classes and stood near us.
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We would actually go
running to the prop room
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and stay there for some time
until we were hauled out of it.
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To an outsider who
did not know Guruji,
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you would think that he was
sometimes very angry with
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the students.
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But as teachers, we
realized that it was not
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the anger towards
these students,
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but it was an anger towards
something which is not correct.
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So there was no such
tolerance there for mistakes.
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Sorry all are listening.
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Not one adjusted.
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I will not teach.
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I will go back to India
today alone if you do not
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listen to what I say.
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A lot of people used to
say that he's too strict.
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But when you do something,
when you learn something,
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so Guruji was the best.
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Guruji used to say, it
is not tip of the fingers,
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top of the tip of the fingers.
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I was surprised.
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How can it be?
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Tip of the finger
itself is as a top.
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How can it be top of
the tip of the fingers?
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Then he said, see, this
is what the sensitiveness.
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The top of the tip of the
finger means it is so sensitive,
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delicate, if you touch the
nose, the moment the finger goes
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to the nose, you
should know that.
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You should feel it.
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There was already an air
of excitement in the room,
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because we knew that the Mr.
Iyengar had come in and was
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beginning his daily
practice inside.
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But after a while,
we forgot about him,
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and we were focusing on
what the teacher was saying.
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Until suddenly, there was this
roar from the back of the room.
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No one is doing much she said.
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And he marched up to
the front and took over,
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and it was marvelous.
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It was terrifying,
but it was marvelous.
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He committed a mask to
discipline people rather than
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to spread fear.
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When he was
hitting, shouting,
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we knew that he was
right inside, outside.
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There was no doubt
that to remove
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this wrong state of mind, he
had to drink in some manner
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these wrong feelings,
wrong way of doing.
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I was trying to do Bakasana
time after time after time,
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and falling off,
and slipping off,
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and just getting frustrated.
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And I was getting tired.
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And Rya had came walking
across the room up to me.
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And he said to me, Guruji
sent me over to tell you
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that you can't expect him
to come over to you if you
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want help with your pose.
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I looked up at Rya and
said, OK, I'll come over.
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And I walked over to
Guruji, and then he
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proceeded to put
me through my paces
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for another 20 minutes
of Bakasana practice,
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until I didn't even
realize that my arms were
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numb from the elbow down,
until I fell out of the pose.
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And I tried to break my
fall, and I couldn't even
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move my hands.
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And he said, that's
enough for today.
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Did you learn something?
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And he wiggled his eyebrows.
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And we laughed.
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Oh, and then, the next
day, in the practice hall--
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the numbness-- that's right,
the numbers didn't go away.
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And so I was a
little worried, but I
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didn't want to bother him.
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And I was over by the ropes.
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I was trying to hold the rope,
but my hand wouldn't work.
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And so he came over to me, and
he was so tender and sweet.
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He took his kerchief out of his
pocket, and he wrapped my palm.
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He said, this
one's worse, right?
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And I said, yes sir.
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The left one is worse.
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And he wrapped my palm
in a very specific way.
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And I was so surprised
and grateful.
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Then he said, now,
do Bakasana again.
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I'm like, oh, no.
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He was generous, but
he was relentless.
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We were all in Sirsasana--
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Salamba Sirsasana, head balance.
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And he was walking through
the lines of people
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standing on their head.
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And when he was coming
close to my place,
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I suddenly felt something
pushing my chin.
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And I didn't
realize immediately,
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but he was just standing
up straight in front of me.
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And it was actually his
foot correcting my chin
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to go a little more
deep down to the floor.
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He would exactly correct,
touching that spot which would
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make the person to do
everything rightly.
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It was a special touch.
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For example, let us say, he
may touch your shoulders,
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or he may touch your dorsal
spine somewhere, or somewhere
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spine at the lower area--
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lumbar spine or sacrum spine.
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That touch will be not
much for you at that time,
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but he will exactly touch
there, and the hole posture
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will change.
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And you will come out of the
experience different-- totally
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different.
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Once I was in
a particular pose,
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and he came from behind
and pushed my tailbone.
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The comfort that I felt
after that is unimagined.
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Some could say that
he had kicked me.
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I remember one time, I was in
Sirsasana during the practice,
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and I didn't see him coming.
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But what I felt was a
kick suddenly just here,
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on the ribs.
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So I had been sticking
my ribs out in Sirsasana.
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and he kicked pretty hard,
and he just instantly
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pushed that part back.
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And my back, buttocks,
and legs just went up.
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I didn't fall.
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But he had this way of
doing something like that,
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and just recently putting
you into a better pose.
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He knew just how much
to kick and where,
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and then you would be
there in another pose.
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It would just shift your
reality suddenly like that.
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Other people would
say, didn't that hurt?
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That must have
really been awful.
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And I said, no, the touch
was very, very light.
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It was light, but it lasted
for a very, very long time.
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His ability was to
bring something out
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in each student to let them have
their own personal experience.
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It was never a generalized
class experience in that way.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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Without words, he
used to teach me.
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He was able to be however
he needed to be for different
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people, and he was able
to just switch instantly.
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But the real impact, I found,
was in the experience that one
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had of oneself when he taught.
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When you were in his
classes, he opened up
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a sort of hidden potential.
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He showed you things,
or he led you,
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brought you to things that you
never thought were possible.
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There was going
to be a mega class,
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and I think it was going
to be-- the first time,
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there was going to be 1,000
students in the mega class.
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And he was sitting here in
the library, and he says,
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I think I can do 1,000
students-- meaning
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that all those other mega
classes that had like 300, 500,
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700, he wouldn't
take that mega class
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just because 300
people wanted to come,
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500 people wanted to come,
700 people wanted to come.
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No, he had a kind of ethics that
if he couldn't see everyone,
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he wouldn't take that.
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But he had that ability to see
that many people all at once.
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And he would correct people
in the far back of the room.
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He would point out
someone's tailbone
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in the very back of the room,
someone else, thump their thigh
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and so forth.
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It's like he has as many eyes
as many students are there that
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day.
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If there are 100
students, he has 100 eyes.
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And he had
penetrative intelligence.
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He would go beyond the layers
of the body to go to the soul.
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He certainly knew all
about one as a person.
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When you met him,
there was no question
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of concealing anything.
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He knew about you.
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So he had seen me in class.
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And I was laying
upside down, just--
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really bhoga, not
yoga, I have to admit.
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My eyes were closed, and
my hands were on the floor.
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And I felt a piece of paper
being pushed into my hand.
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So I opened my eyes.
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My hand was on the floor.
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And Guruji was
kneeling on the floor,
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looking up at me in the robes.
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And I said, oh, sir.
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And he said, give
this to Mary Dunn.
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Mary Dunn was my wonderful
teacher in San Diego.
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And I said, of course, sir.
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But how did you know
that I know Mary Dunn?
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And he said, I saw you
in class this morning.
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You make the same
mistakes that she does.
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He told me even before Isaac
was born that you are going
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to-- by the way, you are
carrying a male child.
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Because many people
have said that Guruji
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is the man with the x-ray eyes.
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So doesn't surprise me
that he already knew that.
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I remember yawning
once in class,
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but I had my back
of my head to him.
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And he said, why
are you yawning?
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And I said, how do
you know I'm yawning?
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I've got my head to the back.
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He says, your ears
move when you yawn.
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If there is going something
going on in your mind,
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he will recognize it.
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He would take it jokingly.
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Hey, where are you What are
you thinking, he may say.
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So if you were in the
class and you were inattentive
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and weren't appreciating
that he was talking to you,
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then you would
certainly know about it.
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He will exactly find out
what was going on in your mind--
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what was your brain doing.
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And that was shocking.
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How does he know?
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This, I think, was
the quality of Guruji.
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Without having to speak,
without having to tell him,
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without having to
show him anything,
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he instinctively or
intuitively somehow
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knew the problems
of each person.
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He is exactly
make out the defect--
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physical defect,
physiological defect.
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He looked at me and he
diagnosed my problem without
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looking at my reports, but only
looking at my skin of the neck.
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He never asked anyone
to bring the reports.
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He never asked anyone go
tested, get pathological report
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or radiological report.
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If somebody came
with it, he'd say--
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turn a blind eye.
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I don't want to
look at all that.
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She had his own
subjective diagnostics.
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As far as the organic
body is concerned,
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he would be very sure, whether
kidneys have gone wrong,
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or heart is wrong,
or lungs are wrong.
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How did he even
know about that?
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He had no educational
background on how cells work.
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There are no scientific
instruments he had--
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no microscopes,
nor stethoscopes.
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But still he--
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I have no idea how he
saw all those things.
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He had his own scanning eyes.
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Before the student
would say, Guruji, I've
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got this gastric problem
or a lung problem,
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he would divulge
it to the patient.
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He would say, this
is your problem.
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Say if you are tensed, he
won't look at your eyes.
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He would look at your throat
and say you are tensed.
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He looked at the gestures.
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He looked at the throat.
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He looked at the shoulders.
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He used to say walk.
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And when the person
walked before him,
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he will know exactly what
is the matter with him.
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And then, he starts
his teaching.
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Greeta would ask,
because naturally, she
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would be surprised.
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I asked him,
but he said, look,
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there is no method for that.
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It's not something-- the
methodology to say that isn't--
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I talked to him in this manner.
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But he gave me certain clues.
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What clues?
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He said, look at his eyes--
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when I'm talking to him,
where he was looking.
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Or the way he talks to me,
find out how he is answering.
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Look at the posture,
how he is sitting.
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These are the clues he gave me.
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This was a great thing
that he had that faculty.
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And no student ever bothered
how to get that faculty,
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rather than depend upon the
pathologists and radiologists
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to tell us what this
person is suffering from.
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Some of my closest
interactions with BKS Iyengar
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were during the remedial classes
or the medical classes here
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in Pune.
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And I think what
was most interesting
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about those interactions
were learning under him
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and the way he worked
psychologically differently
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with different people.
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I was watching the
medical classes there.
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And in those days, we
had to sit on stairs
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and had a great view
of the whole room.
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And watching Guruji dart around
the room helping everyone,
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he just seemed like lightning.
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I wouldn't even see him move.
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He would just be
somewhere, and then he
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was somewhere else,
and somewhere else,
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and seemed to be helping
everyone at the same time.
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The rhythm that he
would always get into.
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And that was magnificent.
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It's just the
exuberance of energy
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that was just magnificent.
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And at one point, he came
to help a woman who was pretty
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close to where we were
sitting on the stairs.
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And he was helping
her to do drop backs.
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And she was a
fairly young woman.
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She had long braids
on either side.
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And he was giving
her directions to get
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her to be able to drop back,
but she was nervous, of course,
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and seemed afraid.
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She was very flexible, but she
seemed scared to drop back.
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So he was helping her, but
she had couldn't really
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take the directions that
he was saying to her.
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So all of a sudden, he
grabbed her two braids
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and pulled them down
and forward and up.
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And she went right back
and did the drop back.
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And she let out a
squeal and was so happy.
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And then he turned to
her and turned to us
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and said, see how she
can open her chest now?
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I tell you, he was handling
the patient with his own hands.
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Helping each individual
into the asanas.
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Many times, he used
to use his own head.
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Like for example, you're lying
down in Supta Padangusthasana,
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where one leg up and you're
lying down on the floor.
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And he used to be
standing there behind
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and his head hitting out
towards the person's calves
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and with his hands pulling in.
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Arms, legs, head,
neck, chest, back--
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everything he would make
use of to support it.
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Not just standing nearby and
saying, do do, I will help you.
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No.
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He knows exactly.
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So he used to actually
make me sit in Baddha Konasana
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and fully himself used
to climb on my knees.
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So entire Tata on
standing on top of me.
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And I used to be really scared
in those initial days, but--
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it used to actually--
he actually creeped open
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my groins like that,
to give that freedom
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and life over there.
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I had streptococcus
infection in my throat,
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and it affected my
all small joints.
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So rheumatoid
arthritis like that.
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So I could not hold my pen.
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I could not open the lock.
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I could not hold the cooker.
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Nothing I could do.
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Then, when I came
in June to Pune,
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he made me to do many postures.
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And especially full
arm balance, it
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was really-- my
doctors were surprised.
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He put the slanting plank
and kept my palm on it.
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And I used to do
full arm balance.
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And slowly, my pain was gone.
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And when I went back to Chennai,
the doctor say it is amazing,
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because this is cannot be cured.
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Your father has done
something which is really--
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medical science tells
me it was surprising.
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He's given life to many
people with medical issues,
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health issues.
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I had a lot of trust
in him and I believed him.
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And this finger-- he treated me.
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I'm telling you, this was
tough for me, you know?
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Especially for a wicket
keeper, the index finger
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is very, very important
to collect the ball.
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Everything come here.
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00:22:55,030 --> 00:22:59,200
And this finger was
treated by him totally.
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And I still cry, literally.
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And he used to push me so hard.
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He was hanging on both
fingers, like this.
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And it's not only one minute,
two-- but it used to be there
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were five minutes, four minutes.
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Push me hard.
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Now you will be amazed.
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He used to put me in some poses.
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where I could actually
palpitate my own kidney.
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Very difficult to believe.
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And nobody, of course,
today knows those
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poses or remembers those poses.
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But til I was with him, my
blood pressure, kidney function,
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and everything else continued
to remain absolutely normal.
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Then there were quite a few
who used to come with weakness
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in the arms, legs.
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Standing itself was
difficult. There
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were physically challenged.
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He could not be stipulating
the classical postures
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and actions of yoga.
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So therefore, he
thought that they should
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be given some assistance.
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Suppose person having a
heart problem, blood pressure,
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this kind of patient.
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So how to make them to
bend on the backside?
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So he understood that
if the asanas are to work,
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one must be in the position.
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And therefore, the
props were developed.
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So you know you will be
surprised that he used to have
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whatever in the house
is small like bed.
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And in those days, cotton bed
because you could roll it.
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So cotton bed he will use.
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00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:33,140
The chapati roller, simple
thing, he will use it.
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We had a stick--
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a simple wooden stick.
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00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:40,650
He will use that, and will
make that area to work.
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I have left the
pain over here.
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And he gave me a
stick like this.
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He picked up a stick,
which was laying there.
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And this is what you do.
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And you do it a few times,
and your pain will be gone.
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Now, this pose is not
given in any yoga book
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anywhere in the world.
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Only Guruji could innovate it.
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00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:03,480
Only he could teach you this.
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Things that I could not even
imagine could be used would
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prove to be such a valuable
aid in enlightening or showing
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something.
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A couple of thing,
it came accidentally.
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So there was a one belt
lying in the institute.
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Then he just took the belt, put
it on the backside of his hand.
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Then he would do Sarvangasana.
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And he said, oh, my god.
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Rather than telling to
people go on Sarvangasana
495
00:25:29,170 --> 00:25:32,100
and take your elbow back,
better lock his elbow now only
496
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:34,020
in the belt and let him go.
497
00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:37,560
So something should sustain
so that posture can work
498
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,640
for remedy.
499
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,640
If you are sustaining
your body, the posture
500
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,570
won't be really working to
disseminate the effects.
501
00:25:43,570 --> 00:25:46,590
So that's why he developed
props for yoga to work on you.
502
00:25:46,590 --> 00:25:49,280
If yoga doesn't work on you,
how will you get remedy?
503
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,440
He observed and he
incorporated props.
504
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,970
So did he invent props?
505
00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:56,460
I think he would
probably challenge that.
506
00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:58,770
He would say, I observe nature
and do repeat something.
507
00:25:58,770 --> 00:26:00,370
So is that invention?
508
00:26:00,370 --> 00:26:02,010
It certainly is.
509
00:26:02,010 --> 00:26:03,700
It certainly is in
some perspective.
510
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,490
There are many people that
started call it as prop yoga.
511
00:26:06,490 --> 00:26:08,730
So they have kind of
bought all the props.
512
00:26:08,730 --> 00:26:10,230
They own it, but
they don't know how
513
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:12,930
to use it, what to do,
or reach out to the cord.
514
00:26:12,930 --> 00:26:14,830
And these days, I
keep on telling them,
515
00:26:14,830 --> 00:26:18,470
you don't know what
hardship he had to make--
516
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:24,170
to create these props, because
it has to suite the human body.
517
00:26:24,170 --> 00:26:27,390
Guruji used to say,
this is a chumbal.
518
00:26:27,390 --> 00:26:33,660
This is the Guruji's last
research of the prop.
519
00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:37,620
In 2011, when he went
to China at the age of 93,
520
00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:40,320
in front of the audience, which
was around 1,200 students from
521
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,720
China, he said, look.
522
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,520
Look at me.
523
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,970
I've been teaching
for such a long time.
524
00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:47,490
And till that time, when I
was doing Baddha Konasana,
525
00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:50,910
I used to put the wooden
brick, which was like a block.
526
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,400
I should have realized
that the bucket is shaped--
527
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,765
it's curved and it's
rounded in shape.
528
00:26:55,765 --> 00:26:58,390
And the chumbal is what-- it
is taking that shape and giving
529
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:59,490
you that support.
530
00:26:59,490 --> 00:27:00,540
So I have been--
531
00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:02,383
this is what I've
invented now, and that's
532
00:27:02,383 --> 00:27:04,050
what I've realized
now-- how stupid I've
533
00:27:04,050 --> 00:27:05,310
been to use a wooden block.
534
00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:07,890
So small things
that he did, actually,
535
00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:10,530
have touched me much more,
especially his simplicity,
536
00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:13,290
and humility, and his
ability to say, you know,
537
00:27:13,290 --> 00:27:16,050
I'm still learning at the age
of 95, and the whole world--
538
00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:18,010
and to say it in public.
539
00:27:18,010 --> 00:27:20,400
He was always ready
to say, I do not know.
540
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,160
In spite of the fact that he
knew so much, if he did not
541
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,930
know, he said he did not know.
542
00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:27,420
Or he may-- there's a
problem which came up
543
00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:28,930
while he was teaching class.
544
00:27:28,930 --> 00:27:32,840
And he, in his younger days, and
if he did not have the answer.
545
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,620
So he says, OK, I'll tell you.
546
00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:36,630
Then he would practice
at home to find out
547
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:38,610
what is the real answer
to the question which
548
00:27:38,610 --> 00:27:39,520
has been posed to me.
549
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,620
So it's not just he's
going to try one thing
550
00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:42,720
and that's going to work.
551
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,760
Maybe even putting
himself in harm's way,
552
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,635
trying all different things.
553
00:27:46,635 --> 00:27:48,760
If he was going to prescribe
something to somebody,
554
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,830
he wanted to know
what are the things
555
00:27:50,830 --> 00:27:52,350
that work, what doesn't work.
556
00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:55,170
His body was
like a laboratory.
557
00:27:55,170 --> 00:27:56,510
He would practice on it.
558
00:27:56,510 --> 00:28:02,160
He was severe with himself,
not that he pampered his body.
559
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,240
He was a dedicated
practitioner himself.
560
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,160
And he was severe with
his body to experiment.
561
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,370
Therefore, he has often said,
when I teach, I am a scientist.
562
00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:17,680
Actually, if you are teaching,
you should be a teacher.
563
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,360
But then, he never
had that opportunity.
564
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,180
He said, when I teach,
I am a scientist,
565
00:28:21,180 --> 00:28:24,180
because I have to
evolve person to person,
566
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:25,740
what are the requirements.
567
00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:27,300
If this person
requires this chair,
568
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:29,590
somebody requires
a taller chair.
569
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:32,190
So he had to work that way.
570
00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:34,773
He said that his students,
in a sense, were his teachers,
571
00:28:34,773 --> 00:28:36,690
because he saw what
mistakes they were making,
572
00:28:36,690 --> 00:28:38,730
or something that
they were doing right,
573
00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:40,920
which he probably
had not realized.
574
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,600
But he would meet
them and say, oh, this
575
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,267
is something which
is new I am learning.
576
00:28:44,267 --> 00:28:47,310
He was never a one way street
that means I know it all.
577
00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:51,510
So he was, in that
sense, very scientific.
578
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:54,840
Just like in science, there's
always an inquisitiveness
579
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,820
to know more about more things.
580
00:28:56,820 --> 00:29:00,100
That kind of inquisitiveness
was certainly there, I can say.
581
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:06,480
His intelligence and
the way he introduced yoga,
582
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,060
the way he studied every day
in the library the yoga texts,
583
00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:15,270
his explanations.
584
00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:17,570
And he was amazing,
that a man who
585
00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:22,320
had had no academic education
had such a lot of knowledge
586
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,830
about this line.
587
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:27,690
So when he was writing
the Yoga Sutra Patanjali,
588
00:29:27,690 --> 00:29:31,710
the text was ready, but he was
telling me that there are lots
589
00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:34,740
of things that he would like
to experience before being sure
590
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:37,210
and to put them on the page.
591
00:29:37,210 --> 00:29:42,570
Finally, we reached it in '92 to
the final editing of the work.
592
00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:44,450
In the same place
in this library,
593
00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:47,370
almost on the same table, I
was doing the editing work,
594
00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:50,970
and one of my friends I was
entering them in the computer,
595
00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:54,200
and Guruji was supervising
the whole work.
596
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,690
When we reached Yoga Sutra, that
the meaning was not very clear,
597
00:29:57,690 --> 00:30:01,980
and his explanations, also,
we were trying to write.
598
00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:03,520
And it was not
really corresponding.
599
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,800
It was not very convincing.
600
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,220
We were working day and night.
601
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:11,850
And one night-- it was around
4:00 in the morning-- somebody
602
00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:13,950
knocked on my door, because
I was living upstairs
603
00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:15,420
in the institute.
604
00:30:15,420 --> 00:30:16,690
And then, I opened the door.
605
00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:18,780
It was Guruji himself.
606
00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:19,960
And he goes, can I enter?
607
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,380
I told, of course you can
enter, but I am sorry.
608
00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:23,400
I am just coming out.
609
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:23,700
No, no, no.
610
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:24,610
Go back to your bed.
611
00:30:24,610 --> 00:30:26,610
He pushed me back to my bed.
612
00:30:26,610 --> 00:30:28,740
My friend also was in his bed.
613
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:31,800
And he sat on the
side of my bed.
614
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,100
And he explained,
amazingly, very clearly,
615
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,330
like a really crystal
clear, the Sutra.
616
00:30:38,330 --> 00:30:40,770
Then he told, now
is it understood?
617
00:30:40,770 --> 00:30:43,030
And we told, yes, you
can write it like that.
618
00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:43,830
Yes.
619
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:46,530
Then he walked away and
we watched ourselves.
620
00:30:46,530 --> 00:30:50,670
And we knew that it was just
coming from his own practice
621
00:30:50,670 --> 00:30:52,200
in that very morning.
622
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,730
There was one practice where
he had his leg up on the tall
623
00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:59,950
stool, and I was just
there next to him,
624
00:30:59,950 --> 00:31:02,612
just literally this
far away from him.
625
00:31:02,612 --> 00:31:03,570
And I was watching him.
626
00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:08,100
And over two minutes,
every two seconds,
627
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,650
he would shift and do
something a little different,
628
00:31:10,650 --> 00:31:13,470
catch the imprint
of that, and then do
629
00:31:13,470 --> 00:31:16,570
another thing for two seconds,
then catch the imprint of that.
630
00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:20,610
So if you count that
up over two minutes--
631
00:31:20,610 --> 00:31:23,310
30 seconds one minute, 30
seconds the other minute--
632
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:26,280
he did like 60 different
trials within two minutes.
633
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,360
He had that speed of being able
to catch what was happening,
634
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,520
record it, and then just
go on to the next thing.
635
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,440
Just an incredible speed.
636
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,720
Even well into his 90s,
he would be discovering new
637
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,520
things.
638
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,370
He would be discussing this
with Geeta aunty or Prashantji.
639
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:44,160
Yesterday, I was trying
this for the last two days.
640
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,350
In Sirsasana, I was doing
this particular variation.
641
00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:49,020
And I spent 10 extra minutes.
642
00:31:49,020 --> 00:31:52,110
And this is what I felt. There's
a relief in a certain thing
643
00:31:52,110 --> 00:31:52,950
that I felt.
644
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:55,050
He never stopped practicing.
645
00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:57,030
He never stopped learning.
646
00:31:57,030 --> 00:32:00,660
He never stopped exploring
and experimenting.
647
00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:06,580
He made this voyage
from the outside in.
648
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:13,360
And he did that while
having a loving marriage.
649
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,280
If he has any success, it was
because that [INAUDIBLE] that
650
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,010
energy, that Shakti was
Ramamani, his wife, behind him.
651
00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:25,470
She's a light in my life.
652
00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:28,780
She never demanded
anything from me.
653
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:32,840
She could definitely make out
that he has something different
654
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,610
in him.
655
00:32:34,610 --> 00:32:39,870
So she gave full
support, full freedom,
656
00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:42,560
to him whatever he wants to do.
657
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,310
Always together
used to practice.
658
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:45,990
She never objected.
659
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:49,250
Early mornings is to get up
at 4:00 to do the practice.
660
00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:50,640
She never objected.
661
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,350
She would help.
662
00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:58,110
After marry, my progress
on yoga is on account of her.
663
00:32:58,110 --> 00:33:00,760
I use her as a mirror.
664
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,030
They had a really good
understanding of each other.
665
00:33:04,030 --> 00:33:07,140
He respected my mother
as a householder,
666
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:10,140
looking after everything--
looking after the house,
667
00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:11,900
children, kitchen, everything.
668
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:13,920
He used to take
her for shopping.
669
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,270
You see, every Sunday, my
father used to come from Bombay.
670
00:33:18,270 --> 00:33:22,170
And he used to
reach Pune by 3:30.
671
00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:26,070
By 4:35, my father used to
take my mother for shopping.
672
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:30,390
Many times Sunday, he used
to go to Dadar and bring betel
673
00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:34,350
leaves, because my
mother used to like it.
674
00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:38,100
On Sunday night, we used
to go for for the walking.
675
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:42,150
And my mother, by walking, she
used to make veeda for him.
676
00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:44,400
And they used to have--
on the road, also,
677
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,340
so she used to have on
one finger, [INAUDIBLE]
678
00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:49,680
and another finger leaves.
679
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,290
We used to wash everything--
clean it, everything.
680
00:33:52,290 --> 00:33:55,350
And while going,
they used to eat it.
681
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:57,350
Never they fought
with each other.
682
00:33:57,350 --> 00:34:00,010
Never there was a quarrel
or fight, in front of us,
683
00:34:00,010 --> 00:34:01,700
especially.
684
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:03,290
It never happened.
685
00:34:03,290 --> 00:34:07,200
It at all, they had spoken
to each other so differently.
686
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,300
But there are not
quarrel, as such.
687
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:10,860
No argument, as such.
688
00:34:10,860 --> 00:34:14,550
She was really wonderful
lady-- very tolerant lady,
689
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:16,350
very helpful lady.
690
00:34:16,350 --> 00:34:19,830
And looking after everyone
with kind heartedness.
691
00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:22,600
Both of us lived very
happily for 30 years.
692
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,860
But after passing
of my mother,
693
00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:27,570
he was both mother and father.
694
00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:30,420
He use to play with
us, especially myself.
695
00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:36,320
I'm being the eldest daughter
of Guruji, of my father.
696
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,400
I think I enjoyed a lot.
697
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,859
We used to play on his body
when he used to do practices
698
00:34:43,859 --> 00:34:47,010
in different asanas,
like Halasana.
699
00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:48,900
We use to play slide.
700
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,690
When he used to
do Yoganidrasana,
701
00:34:52,690 --> 00:34:55,770
we used to play like
see-saw on his body.
702
00:34:55,770 --> 00:35:00,570
You won't believe it, even at
this-- as a three years child,
703
00:35:00,570 --> 00:35:07,250
I was always doing in front of
him something like toppling.
704
00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:09,510
Sometimes, I'd touch my toes.
705
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:11,970
When he jumped, I will jump.
706
00:35:11,970 --> 00:35:14,400
Well, I was a
classical dancer,
707
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,740
so I was supposed to give
my first performance.
708
00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:25,070
So, in front of him, I used to
do the practice all the time.
709
00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:30,250
So when he used to correct
me during these yoga postures
710
00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:32,410
and all, he used to correct me.
711
00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:36,510
But even when I
used to have a bath,
712
00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:38,390
he used to come
after having a bath
713
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:39,970
and tell me that,
Savita, come on.
714
00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:40,790
Do this.
715
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:44,850
So even during the bath,
he was thinking about my--
716
00:35:44,850 --> 00:35:49,060
how I had to improve my
dance with their expressions,
717
00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:52,150
with the gestures, with
the hand movements.
718
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,230
Hand movements,
palm movements.
719
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:56,670
He was graceful, actually.
720
00:35:56,670 --> 00:35:58,600
He wanted to learn,
actually, dance.
721
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,060
He was thinking about
actually becoming a classical
722
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:05,890
dancer rather than practitioner
of yoga at some stage in life.
723
00:36:05,890 --> 00:36:11,620
And that's why he once saw
Uday Shankar in a ballet.
724
00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:13,040
And he was so fascinated.
725
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Then he said, why
not find out the way
726
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,920
that I will teach him yoga,
and he will teach me dance.
727
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,250
But Uday Shankar was not
interested in yoga, it seems.
728
00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:23,190
So he could not continue.
729
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:25,750
But music, he was
very much interested.
730
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:28,630
Both my parents were interested
in music to the point that
731
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:33,520
the interest was in
everybody's-- all the siblings.
732
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,470
And I used to play sitar for
my another sister Sunita.
733
00:36:37,470 --> 00:36:40,270
Prashant and Vanita,
they used to play violin.
734
00:36:40,270 --> 00:36:41,920
Savita danced.
735
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,640
Geeta learned vocal
music, then sitar, also.
736
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,300
So he used to teach us the
technique, how to play--
737
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:53,230
fingering work, wrist work,
and everything he used to tell.
738
00:36:53,230 --> 00:36:57,280
And it used to make a lot of
difference in the technique.
739
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,320
Renowned and famous and
a great teacher as he was,
740
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,280
but when it came to
normal family life,
741
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,470
he was just like any ordinary
man-- like a very common man.
742
00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:10,030
And that was very
endearing about him.
743
00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:13,630
In the house, as a father,
he was very much lovable.
744
00:37:13,630 --> 00:37:15,800
At the same time,
he was very strict.
745
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,220
He was not at all
strict whatsoever to me.
746
00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:24,010
Actually, when his classes
were going on and while he used
747
00:37:24,010 --> 00:37:27,170
to practice, it should
be pin drop silence.
748
00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:29,650
We children never used
to make any noise.
749
00:37:29,650 --> 00:37:31,970
He never used to like that.
750
00:37:31,970 --> 00:37:35,120
But when and children were
playing, he used to practice.
751
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,000
They used to play cricket.
752
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,090
And he was also sometimes
laughing, playing with them.
753
00:37:40,090 --> 00:37:41,530
Used to play with him a lot.
754
00:37:41,530 --> 00:37:42,700
And he used to
practice as you go--
755
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:44,283
He would be practicing
in the hallway.
756
00:37:44,283 --> 00:37:46,230
I used to go in the
hall, trouble him.
757
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:48,230
If he's sleeping, stand
on his legs or whatever.
758
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:49,528
Just play with him.
759
00:37:49,528 --> 00:37:51,070
He had this thing
he used to say--
760
00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:52,750
OK, I'll make you fly
like an aeroplane.
761
00:37:52,750 --> 00:37:57,280
So he used to lay down on
his back and hold us like--
762
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,950
so we are kids, right?
763
00:37:58,950 --> 00:38:01,660
So we are on-- so
his legs up, and we
764
00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:04,280
are laying flat on his
legs and holding his hands.
765
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,100
And he is making us
fly like an aeroplane.
766
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,710
Sometimes in the morning,
when we would be sleeping late
767
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:11,860
and we would not wake up,
suddenly we would be woken up,
768
00:38:11,860 --> 00:38:15,020
because he would be
walking on our legs.
769
00:38:15,020 --> 00:38:15,820
So yes.
770
00:38:15,820 --> 00:38:18,310
Then he would just laugh,
and he would walk off.
771
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:19,720
He was like a child--
772
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:23,260
full of life, full
of fun, his eyes
773
00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:26,020
twinkling with mischief,
with that mischievous
774
00:38:26,020 --> 00:38:27,790
smile on his face.
775
00:38:27,790 --> 00:38:29,700
He was ready for an adventure.
776
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:31,450
So there are times
when we would have done
777
00:38:31,450 --> 00:38:32,790
some crazy things with him.
778
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:37,150
And he would be ready for a game
of cricket, or sit on a swing,
779
00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:39,880
or be ready to stand on
his head in Sirsasana
780
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,290
on the edge of a cliff--
781
00:38:41,290 --> 00:38:43,343
challenge us to do
things which he did.
782
00:38:43,343 --> 00:38:45,010
So if we were at
the top of the hill,
783
00:38:45,010 --> 00:38:48,100
he used to like to go to
the edge and to sort of do
784
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,030
the adventurous thing.
785
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:50,575
And he used to take us along.
786
00:38:50,575 --> 00:38:52,200
And our parents, my
father, was scared.
787
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,033
Hey, don't go there.
788
00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:54,555
You'll fall down.
789
00:38:54,555 --> 00:38:57,640
So I remember once, we had
been to the Nandi Hills.
790
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,130
And there is this
place called Tipu Drop.
791
00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:03,410
So that's where Tipu Sultan, he
used to push down his enemies.
792
00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:07,440
So there is like a very steep
fall and there is a wall.
793
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,330
And the wall doesn't even like--
794
00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:12,170
the comparable kind of a wall,
it doesn't have a flat surface.
795
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:14,920
It was a curved
surface on top of it.
796
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,900
And so that does--
797
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:18,550
so he got up on the wall.
798
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:20,800
But there's a steep
fall on the other side.
799
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,170
He's wearing his
[INAUDIBLE] and was sort
800
00:39:23,170 --> 00:39:24,130
of walking like a king.
801
00:39:24,130 --> 00:39:26,410
And we are all scared,
because it's very windy
802
00:39:26,410 --> 00:39:29,000
and the other side
is totally steep.
803
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,800
And he's laughing.
804
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,258
So he's enjoying
walking like that.
805
00:39:31,258 --> 00:39:32,758
And he's calling
us-- you also come.
806
00:39:32,758 --> 00:39:33,670
You also climb.
807
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:36,670
And we had once gone on a
family picnic to Mulshi during
808
00:39:36,670 --> 00:39:38,420
the monsoon.
809
00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:40,313
So Guruji stopped
the car and said--
810
00:39:40,313 --> 00:39:41,230
he said, stop the car.
811
00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:42,860
This will be our picnic spot.
812
00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:44,470
So there was a mild waterfall.
813
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:46,360
There was some slippery rocks.
814
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,600
And we all just sat
there, opened up
815
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,210
what we'd got for eating, and
laughing, playing in the water.
816
00:39:52,210 --> 00:39:53,290
And he called out to me.
817
00:39:53,290 --> 00:39:56,410
And he said, hey,
do Sirsasana her.
818
00:39:56,410 --> 00:40:00,040
And I was so terrified.
819
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,510
He said, do.
820
00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:03,790
I said, I can not do,
because I can not balance.
821
00:40:03,790 --> 00:40:04,810
He said, somebody will hold you.
822
00:40:04,810 --> 00:40:06,060
So what if you can no balance?
823
00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:07,460
Just do the pose.
824
00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,850
And I am fighting with my
grandfather at that time,
825
00:40:09,850 --> 00:40:11,470
trying to convince
my grandfather
826
00:40:11,470 --> 00:40:14,840
that this granddaughter
can balance in Sirsasana.
827
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,980
And that's when the
teacher in him came out.
828
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:20,930
And he said, if you
don't do it now--
829
00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:22,550
and he said, I will do it.
830
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:26,810
So I got doubly terrified that
it's so slippery, [INAUDIBLE]
831
00:40:26,810 --> 00:40:29,380
and, you know, water.
832
00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:31,660
But Guruji is
saying, I will do it.
833
00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:33,820
If something happens,
what will my family think?
834
00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:35,900
What will-- they'll
point fingers at me.
835
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:39,510
So the stress-- that stress
made me do Sirsasana.
836
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:41,670
And he taught me something
in that Sirsasana, also.
837
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:43,720
At home, this used
to happen very often,
838
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:45,350
where suddenly he'd say,
[INAUDIBLE] come here.
839
00:40:45,350 --> 00:40:46,150
Do this.
840
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:47,710
Let me show you something.
841
00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:49,420
And he's teaching us.
842
00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:50,480
So if you're doing--
843
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,720
like say you're doing
Urdva Dhanurasana.
844
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,625
So you'll fall and you come up.
845
00:40:54,625 --> 00:40:57,470
So he had this way of-- he
used to just hold us out
846
00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:59,480
of the tip of the
[INAUDIBLE] there.
847
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,970
And then, when we had to come
up, he'd just do a small tug,
848
00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:04,743
and we were able to
come up very fast.
849
00:41:04,743 --> 00:41:06,410
It's almost like he
would just say, see,
850
00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:07,463
I have magic in my hand.
851
00:41:07,463 --> 00:41:09,130
I just pull, and
you're able to come up.
852
00:41:09,130 --> 00:41:11,080
Even in the family
lunch occasion,
853
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,290
sometimes after lunch he would
say, hey, come do Sirsasana.
854
00:41:14,290 --> 00:41:15,880
And I would tell
him, no, grandfather.
855
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,510
I just ate.
856
00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:17,520
And he said,
nothing will happen.
857
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,320
Do.
858
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,520
So that kind of yoga
anytime, laughter anytime,
859
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,600
teasing me anytime.
860
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,430
So that always was on.
861
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:31,377
He used to be always
excited like a child when his
862
00:41:31,377 --> 00:41:33,460
grandchildren and great
grandchildren were around,
863
00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:34,842
especially.
864
00:41:34,842 --> 00:41:36,550
I couldn't resist
taking Guruji's car.
865
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:38,140
It was an Ambassador
at that point in time.
866
00:41:38,140 --> 00:41:39,563
And I'd take it
out, and he used--
867
00:41:39,563 --> 00:41:41,200
I used to ask him,
Tata, are you coming?
868
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,460
And he would not bat an eyelid.
869
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:43,627
He would say, yes, let's go.
870
00:41:43,627 --> 00:41:44,740
Let's have fun.
871
00:41:44,740 --> 00:41:45,690
The man loved life.
872
00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:46,780
He was full of life.
873
00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:48,490
And that time, I didn't realize.
874
00:41:48,490 --> 00:41:49,690
I used to just take him.
875
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:51,895
He would just wear his
slippers and we would just
876
00:41:51,895 --> 00:41:53,728
go and come back after
an hour, going around
877
00:41:53,728 --> 00:41:55,592
on hills around Pune.
878
00:41:55,592 --> 00:41:56,800
That point, I didn't realize.
879
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,170
At the age of 18 and
19, I didn't realize.
880
00:41:58,170 --> 00:41:59,003
Oh, I asked my Tata.
881
00:41:59,003 --> 00:41:59,803
He came.
882
00:41:59,803 --> 00:42:00,640
What's the big deal?
883
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,780
You take it for granted.
884
00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:04,800
Now, you realize the amount of
trust he had in my driving--
885
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,866
the amount implicit trust.
886
00:42:06,866 --> 00:42:09,510
The fact that he would
take his time out.
887
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:12,257
Nowadays, at the age
of 38, and I work,
888
00:42:12,257 --> 00:42:13,590
and I help around the institute.
889
00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:15,870
And I have a kid and
I know how busy it is.
890
00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:17,480
An hour is a big
deal in my life.
891
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,400
But at that time, for Guruji
to spend an hour of his life
892
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,990
every Saturday, Sunday, just
so that I can have my fancy
893
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:28,000
and drive around Pune,
that's unbelievable.
894
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,520
Nowadays, we find it
very difficult. One thing,
895
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,500
if we do it.
896
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:33,590
Another thing, we say
[INAUDIBLE] I can't come.
897
00:42:33,590 --> 00:42:39,250
But he used to practice, take
the classes, come to the shops,
898
00:42:39,250 --> 00:42:42,680
and we used to dine
together always.
899
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,800
Those Small Pleasures
in life, you know?
900
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,320
That he used to be
in one day and he
901
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,180
was to participate
very enthusiastically.
902
00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:52,270
He used to watch
television-- cricket matches.
903
00:42:52,270 --> 00:42:56,960
He used to come with us
on long drives or picnics.
904
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,750
He used to play games with us.
905
00:42:59,750 --> 00:43:01,690
All games he used to enjoy--
906
00:43:01,690 --> 00:43:04,970
football, hockey, cricket.
907
00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:06,550
And Gilli Danda, you know?
908
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:07,580
That Gilli Danda.
909
00:43:07,580 --> 00:43:11,880
He used to play with
us when we were young.
910
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,230
He was always a sportsman.
911
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:17,050
Basically, he was a
sportsman in that way--
912
00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:18,750
the yoga he took.
913
00:43:18,750 --> 00:43:23,690
Actually, nobody guided him to
play any sports or anything.
914
00:43:23,690 --> 00:43:25,240
He was very fond of cricket.
915
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:28,690
That is why the radio
came to our house to list
916
00:43:28,690 --> 00:43:30,490
to the commentaries.
917
00:43:30,490 --> 00:43:32,740
I remember it was the
Champion's Trophy final,
918
00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:33,540
I guess--
919
00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:35,590
India versus England.
920
00:43:35,590 --> 00:43:38,110
Last time, India won the
Champion's Trophy in England.
921
00:43:38,110 --> 00:43:40,740
So we were watching it in Pune.
922
00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:42,328
And everybody had gone to sleep.
923
00:43:42,328 --> 00:43:43,620
We were the only peoples awake.
924
00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:46,470
The match went on til
12:30 or 1:00 our time.
925
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:49,040
India won the match and
we were watching that.
926
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,570
Not only cricket--
football, especially.
927
00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:53,820
Local football is something
we used to watch together.
928
00:43:53,820 --> 00:43:56,220
And the last finals
one month ago
929
00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:59,070
was the first finals
that in around--
930
00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:01,890
after five straight finals,
I did not watch with Guruji--
931
00:44:01,890 --> 00:44:03,120
'98 to 2018.
932
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:10,140
So it was a little emotional
watching the match alone.
933
00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:12,690
Watching Investigative
detective shows on TV
934
00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:16,200
on a Friday or Saturday night,
accompanied by cold coffee
935
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,670
is something he used to love.
936
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:21,300
Every Friday night, it's
going to be a cold coffee
937
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:22,770
night.
938
00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:28,110
So myself and Hadid, my husband,
we used to make cold coffee.
939
00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:30,990
We give him, and he would
say, oh, it's too strong,
940
00:44:30,990 --> 00:44:33,125
Da, It's too light, Da.
941
00:44:33,125 --> 00:44:34,000
Little less sugar.
942
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,220
Little more sugar.
943
00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:37,380
The blend is a little less.
944
00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:38,380
You should do this more.
945
00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:39,963
You should take this
kind of a vessel.
946
00:44:39,963 --> 00:44:41,350
Many multiple instructions.
947
00:44:41,350 --> 00:44:44,220
He had this thing about
creating your dishes.
948
00:44:44,220 --> 00:44:46,410
Put honey in this, and
mix this with that,
949
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:47,510
and see how it tastes.
950
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:49,320
So that was a lot of fun.
951
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,910
Simple things like festivals
he used to enjoy a lot.
952
00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:54,590
So we used to prepare
this [INAUDIBLE],,
953
00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:56,970
like the Diwali snacks.
954
00:44:56,970 --> 00:44:58,460
He was to enjoy all of it.
955
00:44:58,460 --> 00:44:59,610
He used to eat heartily.
956
00:44:59,610 --> 00:45:01,890
He used to make us
also eat heartily.
957
00:45:01,890 --> 00:45:04,410
At the end of the course,
there would always be a big
958
00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:06,970
meal essentially
sponsored by the family.
959
00:45:06,970 --> 00:45:09,390
All my aunts, my mother,
all of them would cook.
960
00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:10,670
We didn't have any kitchen.
961
00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:15,960
The highlight would be that
there is some fruit salad.
962
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,660
Fruit salad was
like an specialty.
963
00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:22,050
And we'd all sit in
the hall downstairs.
964
00:45:22,050 --> 00:45:24,360
And Guruji would insist
on us serving everybody.
965
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,570
He would make sure everybody
took a second helping,
966
00:45:26,570 --> 00:45:27,370
third helping.
967
00:45:27,370 --> 00:45:30,270
And I remember that he gave
me so many jalebis to eat.
968
00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:31,980
I kept putting them on my plate.
969
00:45:31,980 --> 00:45:34,020
I really had a hard
time finishing them.
970
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:36,900
But because Guruji had given
them, it was like Prasad,
971
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:38,460
you have to eat them.
972
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:40,230
So I really ate all of it.
973
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:43,680
And it was-- my stomach
was probably also hurting.
974
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,940
So he smiled.
975
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:47,080
I told him that's
too much for me.
976
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,390
So he just smiled and
said, go out to the hall
977
00:45:49,390 --> 00:45:51,670
and do some [INAUDIBLE],,
and everything will be fine.
978
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:52,470
And I did it.
979
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:54,870
And believe me,
actually, it helped.
980
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:57,490
It really helped me
digest all those jalebis.
981
00:45:57,490 --> 00:46:00,780
So in him I found this
father figure-- very caring,
982
00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:04,740
very generous, very, very warm--
983
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:06,660
full of love, full of affection.
984
00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:10,350
So I was amazed to see how
this man could be at the same
985
00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:14,470
time a guru, a
yogi, a [INAUDIBLE],,
986
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:17,640
a father for his children,
a grandfather for his
987
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,360
grandchildren, a teacher
for his students,
988
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,490
and an amazing friend.
989
00:46:23,490 --> 00:46:25,812
He was my very good friend.
990
00:46:25,812 --> 00:46:27,570
He was my guru.
991
00:46:27,570 --> 00:46:28,790
He was my everything.
992
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:31,550
He was for me like father.
993
00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:38,050
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
994
00:46:38,050 --> 00:46:43,380
She's like my daughter, so
you have to look after her.
995
00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:50,760
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
996
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520
You felt such a deep
connection with him.
997
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,320
It was surprising
how many people
998
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,610
said this over and over again.
999
00:46:57,610 --> 00:47:00,170
I don't know anybody else who
connects with people like that.
1000
00:47:00,170 --> 00:47:03,210
I've never met anyone
who has that ability.
1001
00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:11,520
Because one of hi main
quality is that he was not
1002
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,680
at all selfish.
1003
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,550
Not at all.
1004
00:47:17,550 --> 00:47:19,290
What's not to like about him?
1005
00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:22,170
I really don't understand.
1006
00:47:22,170 --> 00:47:24,150
He focused things very easily.
1007
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:26,660
The moment you fight with
him, the next moment he just
1008
00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:27,460
forgets.
1009
00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:32,240
We had a heated
argument, myself and Guruji,
1010
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:37,010
regarding our trust
activities only.
1011
00:47:37,010 --> 00:47:40,180
I was travelling from Bellur
and he called me over phone.
1012
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:42,060
I was in the car only.
1013
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:45,760
We both had a heated
argument over the phone.
1014
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,480
And in the family, everybody
was [INAUDIBLE] Pone
1015
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,390
what will happen?
1016
00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:54,350
[INAUDIBLE] argue
over phone itself.
1017
00:47:54,350 --> 00:47:57,460
Then after five minutes,
he had called me
1018
00:47:57,460 --> 00:48:00,150
again laughing and enjoying.
1019
00:48:00,150 --> 00:48:02,130
I have not seen
anybody like that.
1020
00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:03,997
My ego comes into my way.
1021
00:48:03,997 --> 00:48:05,580
I tell you, you
fought with me, right?
1022
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:07,942
So let me be angry
for some time,
1023
00:48:07,942 --> 00:48:09,900
and I'm not going to talk
to you for some time.
1024
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:11,100
Let me be.
1025
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,340
It's not-- it's never
the same with him.
1026
00:48:13,340 --> 00:48:15,230
Even in his
most angry moments,
1027
00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:17,800
he would waggle his eyebrows
a little bit at you,
1028
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,620
and there would be that
twinkle in his eye,
1029
00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:22,308
even while he was reprimanding.
1030
00:48:22,308 --> 00:48:24,600
It can happen even when
he's calling you in a class,
1031
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,820
or it can happen when
he's pulling your leg.
1032
00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:29,970
But, he used to have a twinkle
on the side of his glance.
1033
00:48:29,970 --> 00:48:30,790
And he was just--
1034
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:33,420
and used to smile a certain way.
1035
00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:37,020
He saw one of his
students, Dr. [INAUDIBLE],,
1036
00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:38,850
sort of walk into the hallway.
1037
00:48:38,850 --> 00:48:40,690
Then he said,
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]..
1038
00:48:40,690 --> 00:48:43,030
That means, I'm going
to have some fun.
1039
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:46,590
So now, [INAUDIBLE] is
a student of Guruji.
1040
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:49,880
And he take everything
that Guruji says seriously.
1041
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,170
So Guruji called
him and says, oh,
1042
00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:54,740
do you know that you
are leaning on one side?
1043
00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:57,300
So whether he was
leaning or not,
1044
00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:59,310
he thought that if
Guruji's saying something,
1045
00:48:59,310 --> 00:49:00,550
then it must be true.
1046
00:49:00,550 --> 00:49:01,790
So he says, yes sir.
1047
00:49:01,790 --> 00:49:03,300
So he says, OK, you know why?
1048
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:07,030
He says, no sir, expecting
Guruji to tell him
1049
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:08,580
how he was-- his
weight was going
1050
00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:10,580
on to one side or
something like that.
1051
00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:12,640
And then he says, see
when you were shaving,
1052
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,750
you have cut your
mustache at one end.
1053
00:49:14,750 --> 00:49:17,620
It is cut more than the other,
and that's why you are leaning.
1054
00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:20,950
I can guarantee you
that his sense of humor was
1055
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:22,100
unbelievable.
1056
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:25,510
His zest for life, living
life to the fullest,
1057
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:29,140
was unbelievable and you can
see some good photographers
1058
00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:30,300
have captured that--
1059
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:31,270
the sheer openness.
1060
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:33,210
He's just in the
moment laughing.
1061
00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:35,260
Guruji's laugh was beautiful.
1062
00:49:35,260 --> 00:49:36,100
It was like a child.
1063
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:37,840
He would love wholeheartedly.
1064
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,690
No doubt.
1065
00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:41,170
He used to crack
jokes, play pranks.
1066
00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:42,970
And those jokes were cutting.
1067
00:49:42,970 --> 00:49:44,570
They were timely, they're apt.
1068
00:49:44,570 --> 00:49:46,290
[INAUDIBLE] was
taking a class,
1069
00:49:46,290 --> 00:49:50,480
and what we did was we had like
a prank planned, essentially.
1070
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,600
So in the beginning of
the class, there were--
1071
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,920
prayers were there, looking on.
1072
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,030
All the prayers-- probably,
we're saying the prayers.
1073
00:49:56,030 --> 00:49:57,160
And while he was
doing that, one of us
1074
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,500
just went and kept a
water balloon behind him.
1075
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:01,728
And we thought he'd get
up and he'd get all wet,
1076
00:50:01,728 --> 00:50:02,770
and it'd be a lot of fun.
1077
00:50:02,770 --> 00:50:05,830
For some reason, that was a
very funny thing at the time.
1078
00:50:05,830 --> 00:50:07,840
And he didn't.
1079
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,230
He just didn't move
far enough or whatever.
1080
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:11,680
The balloon was in its place.
1081
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,930
And we hadn't notice Guruji
had just entered the class
1082
00:50:13,930 --> 00:50:14,740
and he had seen this.
1083
00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:15,500
We had no idea.
1084
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:16,370
We were sitting in the class.
1085
00:50:16,370 --> 00:50:17,770
We were saying our prayers.
1086
00:50:17,770 --> 00:50:20,083
And he saw that the
prank hadn't worked,
1087
00:50:20,083 --> 00:50:21,500
so he walked all
the way to Pandu.
1088
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:22,917
He said, hey,
Pandu, what is this?
1089
00:50:22,917 --> 00:50:24,300
And he pushed him back.
1090
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:26,260
And that was hilarious.
1091
00:50:26,260 --> 00:50:29,640
And I remembered
Guruji on his veranda,
1092
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,930
on his own little terrace.
1093
00:50:31,930 --> 00:50:35,630
And it was [INAUDIBLE].
1094
00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:39,780
And he was waiting for the
kids to come out of the class.
1095
00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:41,320
So the kids come
out of the class,
1096
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,860
and Guruji threw the
water and drenched them.
1097
00:50:44,860 --> 00:50:47,090
And the shrieks and laughter.
1098
00:50:47,090 --> 00:50:51,240
And Guruji was laughing,
like real laughter.
1099
00:50:53,770 --> 00:50:59,290
So that was one of the
first kind of interaction,
1100
00:50:59,290 --> 00:51:04,090
seeing him with kids.
1101
00:51:04,090 --> 00:51:07,390
He could gel with
people of any age.
1102
00:51:07,390 --> 00:51:12,450
So with my baby, or with any
baby, he would play with them,
1103
00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:14,995
bring a smile on their
faces, or make them--
1104
00:51:14,995 --> 00:51:18,570
even when the baby couldn't
speak, the baby would respond.
1105
00:51:18,570 --> 00:51:20,710
In his hands [INAUDIBLE].
1106
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:22,780
Yeah.
1107
00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:25,030
He held you as a wee baby.
1108
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:26,750
And he just picked
[INAUDIBLE] up.
1109
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:29,830
And his hands were so
sure and so steady.
1110
00:51:29,830 --> 00:51:33,640
And he looked into
the small baby's face,
1111
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,380
and he just said, yes sir,
you have seen many lifetimes.
1112
00:51:38,380 --> 00:51:42,440
And which one are you in now?
1113
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,780
When I look back at
photographs of Guruji with
1114
00:51:44,780 --> 00:51:48,900
my daughter, it does
something to me.
1115
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:49,700
I don't know.
1116
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:51,408
I can't pick think of
a word to say what.
1117
00:51:53,890 --> 00:51:55,870
So I still remember the
day that I walked home
1118
00:51:55,870 --> 00:51:58,220
with the baby in my
hand from the hospital.
1119
00:51:58,220 --> 00:52:01,210
And Guruji was sitting,
and he was the first person
1120
00:52:01,210 --> 00:52:04,660
I handed out the baby to.
1121
00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:09,240
And Guruji fondling the baby,
still I vividly remember that.
1122
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,370
So after she grew
up a little bit,
1123
00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:14,710
my father would
bring her every day
1124
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:18,010
to the institute, where
Guruji was either in the class
1125
00:52:18,010 --> 00:52:19,520
or in the practice.
1126
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:25,640
So Guruji would very playfully
would love, cajole her, or put
1127
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,930
her on some prop and make
her slide down the prop.
1128
00:52:28,930 --> 00:52:31,450
As my children grew up, I
think they grew up to think
1129
00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:33,160
they had three grandfathers--
1130
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,990
two were their
biological grandfathers,
1131
00:52:34,990 --> 00:52:37,870
and the other was Guruji,
who they would look forward
1132
00:52:37,870 --> 00:52:40,450
to coming and
meeting on occasions.
1133
00:52:40,450 --> 00:52:44,680
And you know, he would be kind
of fooling around with them,
1134
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,170
chuckling away, asking
them little questions.
1135
00:52:47,170 --> 00:52:49,360
So they were very happy
to interact with him,
1136
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,180
and they didn't think that
he was a big man, or even
1137
00:52:52,180 --> 00:52:53,260
a grown man.
1138
00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:56,140
I remember times when my
children would put their--
1139
00:52:56,140 --> 00:52:58,660
my son, he would put his arms
around his neck and swing
1140
00:52:58,660 --> 00:52:59,470
on his back.
1141
00:52:59,470 --> 00:53:02,200
I remember, I have memories
of playing with him outside
1142
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,590
in the courtyard
of the Institute.
1143
00:53:05,590 --> 00:53:08,120
And we'd be jumping on
him, and he'd play with us.
1144
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,510
And I remember him
smiling and laughing.
1145
00:53:10,510 --> 00:53:14,320
Guruji, as far as I remember,
was the most lovable older man
1146
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,880
that we knew.
1147
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,720
When I was 11 and I
had joined the institute
1148
00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:23,950
in the children's class,
which my mom, Kathy,
1149
00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:25,930
was taking and teaching
with [INAUDIBLE]..
1150
00:53:25,930 --> 00:53:28,347
So this was essentially the
first children's class that
1151
00:53:28,347 --> 00:53:29,290
they had in Pune.
1152
00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:31,610
And Guruji would come
into our classes on a Sunday
1153
00:53:31,610 --> 00:53:32,410
morning.
1154
00:53:32,410 --> 00:53:34,940
I think he enjoyed being
in the children's classes.
1155
00:53:34,940 --> 00:53:37,270
We didn't recognize him
to be our guru at the time.
1156
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:40,900
He was just someone who was fun,
who would come into our class
1157
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:42,560
and bounce us about.
1158
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,730
We used to often be bribed
with five star chocolates
1159
00:53:45,730 --> 00:53:47,200
to do certain asanas.
1160
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,420
And he said, you think
you're a five star, huh?
1161
00:53:49,420 --> 00:53:51,420
You think you're a five star.
1162
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:53,140
And he gave me this chocolate.
1163
00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:57,040
So I think we had a very
relaxed relationship with Guruji
1164
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,090
in those days.
1165
00:53:58,090 --> 00:53:59,485
It was so much fun.
1166
00:53:59,485 --> 00:54:02,245
Different, because Guruji
was different with the kids.
1167
00:54:02,245 --> 00:54:06,830
And there was a lot of
laughter and nonsense.
1168
00:54:06,830 --> 00:54:10,557
And also, Guruji
knew that if you--
1169
00:54:10,557 --> 00:54:12,140
children, there's a
different mindset.
1170
00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:14,590
You can't [INAUDIBLE] to stay
in a pose for 10 minutes.
1171
00:54:14,590 --> 00:54:15,923
They're just going to get bored.
1172
00:54:15,923 --> 00:54:17,820
So he devised a new set of--
1173
00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:19,020
and a new way of teaching.
1174
00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:21,670
It was more dynamic,
more active,
1175
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:25,570
to keep kids like us more
interested and not get bored.
1176
00:54:25,570 --> 00:54:27,640
We had other teachers
taking the classes,
1177
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,270
but when Guruji used to come,
it was always a special day.
1178
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:33,940
And often, when he used
to come, he didn't really
1179
00:54:33,940 --> 00:54:35,150
announce his coming.
1180
00:54:35,150 --> 00:54:37,990
He'd sort of sneakily
come in the back, hiding.
1181
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:42,120
And slowly, some boy would see
that Guruji is in the class,
1182
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,965
in the hall.
1183
00:54:42,965 --> 00:54:44,790
And slowly, the whisper
used to go around.
1184
00:54:44,790 --> 00:54:45,246
Guruji's here.
1185
00:54:45,246 --> 00:54:46,160
Guruji's here.
1186
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,845
And suddenly, everybody's
poses are 100 times better,
1187
00:54:48,845 --> 00:54:50,470
because they all know
that he is there.
1188
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:52,595
Oftentimes, even if
somebody else was taking it,
1189
00:54:52,595 --> 00:54:56,150
if Pandu was taking it, he would
just come in, halfway through
1190
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:58,550
the class, and be
standing in the corner.
1191
00:54:58,550 --> 00:55:01,390
And as soon as he entered
the class, all of us
1192
00:55:01,390 --> 00:55:03,292
knew that, OK, now this
was going to be fun.
1193
00:55:03,292 --> 00:55:05,125
As soon as he would
take over-- immediately,
1194
00:55:05,125 --> 00:55:06,830
he would take over.
1195
00:55:06,830 --> 00:55:08,330
He would let Pandu
or whoever teach,
1196
00:55:08,330 --> 00:55:10,840
and he would say, hey,
that's not the way to teach.
1197
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,007
That's not the way to do it.
1198
00:55:12,007 --> 00:55:12,910
Come, I'll show you.
1199
00:55:12,910 --> 00:55:15,460
And then onwards, it
was tremendous fun.
1200
00:55:15,460 --> 00:55:18,543
Very, very-- he would be
two steps ahead of us.
1201
00:55:18,543 --> 00:55:19,960
He would ask-- he
would do things.
1202
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,960
He would say names of
asanas, or he would do it,
1203
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,140
and we had to follow.
1204
00:55:23,140 --> 00:55:26,080
And it was extremely
fast and a lot of fun.
1205
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,000
We would always
enjoy these classes.
1206
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,800
I give full credit to Guruji
for highlighting that fact,
1207
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,400
that teaching is almost--
1208
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:42,160
it's a science, and one needs to
have many tools, many methods,
1209
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,210
to be able to communicate with
people who are all different.
1210
00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:50,800
The thing that Guruji always
taught us is not to teach
1211
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,000
anything that you
don't understand.
1212
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,340
And so, one of the things that
he gave us, as well as practice
1213
00:55:57,340 --> 00:56:00,640
for just our life, is
practice for our teaching.
1214
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,300
When I was not
really a teacher,
1215
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:10,600
my teacher in San Diego had
asked me to substitute classes
1216
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,010
for another teacher who was
pregnant and not feeling well
1217
00:56:14,010 --> 00:56:14,810
at that time.
1218
00:56:14,810 --> 00:56:19,100
So I had taught
two classes, maybe.
1219
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:21,310
And it was at this
time that Guruji
1220
00:56:21,310 --> 00:56:23,990
was in San Diego
after a convention.
1221
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:27,220
And he came to our center.
1222
00:56:27,220 --> 00:56:32,770
And it was so funny, because
he asked all of the teachers
1223
00:56:32,770 --> 00:56:35,500
to teach in front of him.
1224
00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:39,490
And if you have any memory of
teaching in front of Guruji,
1225
00:56:39,490 --> 00:56:43,160
sometimes you could get
four or five words out
1226
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,280
before he'd stop you
and make a correction.
1227
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,250
So he went through all
the teachers in San Diego.
1228
00:56:51,250 --> 00:56:53,210
And he put his
hands on his hips,
1229
00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:55,070
and he turned to my
teacher and said,
1230
00:56:55,070 --> 00:56:57,090
don't you have anybody else?
1231
00:56:57,090 --> 00:57:00,333
And my teacher turned to me
and said, well, there's Mary.
1232
00:57:02,980 --> 00:57:05,320
So Guruji said, teach.
1233
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,560
Teach something.
1234
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,880
So I taught [INAUDIBLE] asana.
1235
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,070
And the students, they
weren't putting their heels
1236
00:57:13,070 --> 00:57:15,015
down on their back leg.
1237
00:57:15,015 --> 00:57:17,590
I'm saying, put your heel down.
1238
00:57:17,590 --> 00:57:18,950
Press your heel down.
1239
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:20,750
Stamp your heel down.
1240
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:23,300
And inside my head, I was
saying, please, please, please
1241
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:27,290
put your heel down, because
Guruji is watching me.
1242
00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:31,310
And Guruji interrupted
and said, do you
1243
00:57:31,310 --> 00:57:34,340
want me to tell you
how to tell them?
1244
00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:35,240
I said, yes sir.
1245
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,720
Thank god.
1246
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,570
And he turned
around very quickly,
1247
00:57:38,570 --> 00:57:42,780
and he said, unlatch
your heel to the floor.
1248
00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:46,920
There was a thud in the
room as 50 heels went down
1249
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:47,720
to the floor.
1250
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,280
And he turned to me and
he said, [INAUDIBLE]..
1251
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,970
When Patricia Walden and I
went to Pune to ask Guruji what
1252
00:57:55,970 --> 00:57:58,670
we're going to do when
he is no more, he said,
1253
00:57:58,670 --> 00:58:03,800
when you practice, practice
with honesty and integrity.
1254
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,290
And when you're teaching,
observe your students.
1255
00:58:07,290 --> 00:58:09,590
The way I teach,
what I teach,
1256
00:58:09,590 --> 00:58:13,500
how I teach is directly
influenced by Guruji.
1257
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:19,130
Guruji really gave us a way
of communicating the subject
1258
00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:20,060
to other people.
1259
00:58:20,060 --> 00:58:25,190
He had such a profound
effect on our senior teachers,
1260
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:29,400
who since the early
'70s trained with him.
1261
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,580
He was not able to come
to South Africa because
1262
00:58:31,580 --> 00:58:34,280
of political reasons,
but they went
1263
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,780
to Mauritius to train with him,
to Swaziland to train with him.
1264
00:58:38,780 --> 00:58:41,810
And they had such a close
relationship with him.
1265
00:58:41,810 --> 00:58:44,210
To watch him teach
from country to country,
1266
00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:47,000
which I was lucky enough
to do several times.
1267
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,480
He would even change his
very mode or perspective
1268
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,120
to reach the audience
that was in front of him.
1269
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,240
Not so much to draw them to
him, because he was belief,
1270
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,790
I honestly think, was
not in his own abilities,
1271
00:58:59,790 --> 00:59:02,210
but in his belief
in the subject which
1272
00:59:02,210 --> 00:59:04,400
he had given his life over to.
1273
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,160
Even if you don't
know about Iyengar Yoga,
1274
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,670
you're doing Iyengar Yoga,
because it has spread around
1275
00:59:10,670 --> 00:59:12,205
the world everywhere.
1276
00:59:12,205 --> 00:59:14,720
And no matter where
I go and who teaches,
1277
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,530
I find that the Iyengar method
is so rooted in tradition
1278
00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:23,250
and discipline that instructions
remain constant and simple
1279
00:59:23,250 --> 00:59:24,430
and precise.
1280
00:59:24,430 --> 00:59:26,700
I remember a time we're
in a sort tiny little--
1281
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,780
a small town in North Carolina,
in the deep south in America.
1282
00:59:29,780 --> 00:59:31,560
And I happened to know
a Iyengar studio--
1283
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,920
a studio with one of the
teachers in Iyengar's class,
1284
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,900
and I went to it.
1285
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:37,495
And it was the same thing.
1286
00:59:37,495 --> 00:59:39,620
You know, same thing you
do in Pune, same thing you
1287
00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:41,550
do in London, same thing
you do in Cambridge.
1288
00:59:41,550 --> 00:59:42,500
It's everywhere.
1289
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:45,960
It's like, in England when
I go, it's in America.
1290
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,420
I know studios that
I can just walk in,
1291
00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:51,260
and it feels like home.
1292
00:59:51,260 --> 00:59:52,470
We are worldwide.
1293
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:56,270
We are renowned for the healing
capacity of Iyengar Yoga.
1294
00:59:56,270 --> 00:59:59,030
So even in Germany,
where I am from,
1295
00:59:59,030 --> 01:00:02,300
there are two big
university hospitals.
1296
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:06,160
They just do research
work on yoga.
1297
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:19,170
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1298
01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:24,320
Six years ago, I was able to
open my own Iyengar Yoga center
1299
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,200
in San Marcos, the
community where I live.
1300
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,890
I opened the Iyengar Yoga
institutes of Birmingham
1301
01:00:30,890 --> 01:00:32,730
in 2002.
1302
01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:38,990
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1303
01:00:38,990 --> 01:00:44,990
In 1988, the Japanese Iyengar
Yoga Association was found with
1304
01:00:44,990 --> 01:00:46,940
only seven members.
1305
01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:51,850
Now, there are about 120
Iyengar Yoga teachers in Japan.
1306
01:00:51,850 --> 01:01:02,400
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1307
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:17,620
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1308
01:01:17,620 --> 01:01:21,290
Our studio was
dedicated to Iyengar Yoga.
1309
01:01:21,290 --> 01:01:26,430
And we started building up
quite a few student base.
1310
01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:29,130
And that little
studio became a hub
1311
01:01:29,130 --> 01:01:30,765
of Iyengar Yoga [INAUDIBLE].
1312
01:01:30,765 --> 01:01:34,860
The yoga community in
Glasgow is growing all the time.
1313
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:37,090
So we now have
some new teachers.
1314
01:01:37,090 --> 01:01:40,310
We now have a far
bigger pool of people
1315
01:01:40,310 --> 01:01:41,852
who are studding
all the time there.
1316
01:01:41,852 --> 01:01:45,530
I don't know that Guruji
intended to unite the world
1317
01:01:45,530 --> 01:01:48,800
in that way when she started
practicing as a young boy.
1318
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,660
But when you
practice Iyengar Yoga,
1319
01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:54,250
you never feel lonely or lost,
because you know that wherever
1320
01:01:54,250 --> 01:01:56,350
you go, there is a Iyengar
Yoga teacher and other
1321
01:01:56,350 --> 01:01:57,820
practitioners.
1322
01:01:57,820 --> 01:02:01,480
And you meet people who
share the same values
1323
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,450
and have the same views.
1324
01:02:03,450 --> 01:02:07,340
I feel Guruji's art has
brought people together,
1325
01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:10,790
not only in Birmingham,
but all over the world.
1326
01:02:10,790 --> 01:02:15,640
And sometimes Guruji calls
us my children in the field
1327
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,320
of yoga.
1328
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,510
So I know I have beautiful
sisters and brothers
1329
01:02:22,510 --> 01:02:24,190
all around the world.
1330
01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:29,666
Everyone is like a branch and
flower and leaves from all over
1331
01:02:29,666 --> 01:02:37,330
the world to spread Iyengar Yoga
knowledge all over the world.
1332
01:02:37,330 --> 01:02:42,210
And another joy has been
to be part of that community,
1333
01:02:42,210 --> 01:02:45,220
to be part of these
like minded people--
1334
01:02:45,220 --> 01:02:47,580
what we share in common.
1335
01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:51,510
And the complete sense
of devastation and loss
1336
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:56,460
that community felt when Mr.
Iyengar died, when Guruji died,
1337
01:02:56,460 --> 01:03:00,130
was just so overwhelming.
1338
01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:06,680
It was almost curious that
somebody who lived so far away
1339
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,510
could have that
influence in people.
1340
01:03:08,510 --> 01:03:12,040
And everyone felt
entirely bereft.
1341
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,380
He has helped
millions of people,
1342
01:03:15,380 --> 01:03:18,020
and people who have
different lives.
1343
01:03:18,020 --> 01:03:20,900
He was open to expand
and pass his knowledge
1344
01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:21,740
to everybody.
1345
01:03:21,740 --> 01:03:24,805
He didn't make difference
at all who you were.
1346
01:03:24,805 --> 01:03:26,230
He love everybody.
1347
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:31,660
He never had any
discrimination about anybody's
1348
01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:34,730
social background,
economic background.
1349
01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:39,410
And then he said, I
welcome every student of yoga.
1350
01:03:39,410 --> 01:03:42,320
And I feel that
every person needs
1351
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,390
to make a beginning somewhere.
1352
01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:49,100
Guruji's yoga has
taught me how to be--
1353
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:53,220
how to sit, how just
stand, how to walk,
1354
01:03:53,220 --> 01:04:00,740
how to run, how to eat, how
to sleep, how to observe,
1355
01:04:00,740 --> 01:04:02,330
and how to absorb.
1356
01:04:02,330 --> 01:04:06,020
It satisfies me creatively--
the joy of exploring,
1357
01:04:06,020 --> 01:04:09,240
and learning new things,
and trying new things.
1358
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,510
And the reason I can
continue to be a photographer,
1359
01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:14,980
carry those heavy backpacks,
and movement is because I do
1360
01:04:14,980 --> 01:04:15,910
Iyengar Yoga.
1361
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:27,530
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1362
01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:31,940
It was due to Guruji
that I was able to walk.
1363
01:04:31,940 --> 01:04:33,530
It was to due to
Guruji that I was
1364
01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:39,930
able to put off having back
surgery for over 40 years.
1365
01:04:39,930 --> 01:04:42,220
I'm a different person.
1366
01:04:42,220 --> 01:04:44,180
I got new legs.
1367
01:04:44,180 --> 01:04:46,040
I got new spine.
1368
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:51,200
Through doing this forward
bending, headband wrapping,
1369
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,490
slow Iyengar Yoga
rehabilitation process,
1370
01:04:55,490 --> 01:04:58,250
we've managed to bring these
headaches under control within
1371
01:04:58,250 --> 01:05:03,420
the first two months of
my two brain surgeries.
1372
01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:07,290
Today, Iyengar Yoga has
become indispensable for me.
1373
01:05:07,290 --> 01:05:12,920
With my medical limitations, I
have learned to live happily.
1374
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,010
This was a type of yoga
that I would be able to do
1375
01:05:16,010 --> 01:05:17,710
into my golden years.
1376
01:05:17,710 --> 01:05:20,510
And since my golden years
are right around the corner,
1377
01:05:20,510 --> 01:05:23,750
and here I am, still
doing Iyengar Yoga.
1378
01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:27,590
At the ripe age of 60,
I am doing Sirsasana and--
1379
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:30,530
I don't know-- six minutes
every day for a long time.
1380
01:05:30,530 --> 01:05:36,290
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1381
01:05:36,290 --> 01:05:41,300
And if I stick to what he has
taught and what he's developed,
1382
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:42,980
I will find my way.
1383
01:05:42,980 --> 01:05:46,100
So whatever I am today,
or whatever I am doing,
1384
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,430
it's only and only
because of Guruji.
1385
01:05:48,430 --> 01:05:53,570
So about his legacy, is what
one is that is his legacy.
1386
01:05:53,570 --> 01:05:56,340
What he has made us,
that is his legacy.
1387
01:05:56,340 --> 01:05:58,600
And that is what we
are carrying with us.
1388
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,110
And he said, as long
as mine students can give
1389
01:06:03,110 --> 01:06:07,220
their students a taste of the
sensitivity alertness that
1390
01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:08,990
I'm giving you all--
1391
01:06:08,990 --> 01:06:12,320
as long as that's there,
this will live on.
1392
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,345
29 years later,
I'm grandmother,
1393
01:06:14,345 --> 01:06:17,750
and I'm still practicing and
learning from the teachings
1394
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:19,850
of this extraordinary man.
1395
01:06:19,850 --> 01:06:23,780
His legacy lives on through
the generations of my family.
1396
01:06:23,780 --> 01:06:37,490
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1397
01:06:37,490 --> 01:06:41,560
So he has left behind us a
boon for humanity with all his
1398
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:46,850
research and application in the
field of yoga to heal the human
1399
01:06:46,850 --> 01:06:48,220
body and mind.
1400
01:06:48,220 --> 01:06:51,140
So I think it is up
to us to use it now.
1401
01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:54,110
We also have the
responsibility to keep
1402
01:06:54,110 --> 01:06:57,650
on spreading his teaching
and the values he wanted
1403
01:06:57,650 --> 01:06:58,640
to promote.
1404
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,800
And to help other people to
understand how important it is
1405
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:08,270
to make the proper asanas with
guidance, with understanding,
1406
01:07:08,270 --> 01:07:09,680
with alignment.
1407
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,990
His fantastic success lies
now for us as a foundation
1408
01:07:14,990 --> 01:07:17,040
to build upon further.
1409
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,240
So we must pass on to
the next generation for them
1410
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,790
to continue Guruji's legacy.
1411
01:07:23,790 --> 01:07:26,300
And that's why we
continue to teach.
1412
01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:27,770
That's why we want to give.
1413
01:07:27,770 --> 01:07:32,690
We want to help people the way
he helped, the way he taught.
1414
01:07:32,690 --> 01:07:34,880
Because this is what
we're supposed to do--
1415
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,770
to continue, to let go, show.
1416
01:07:38,770 --> 01:07:41,720
Plant the seed so
that everybody can
1417
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,960
see that Guruji is not dead.
1418
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,000
Guruji is only, as he said--
1419
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,650
I'm only going to
change my clothes.
1420
01:07:49,650 --> 01:07:51,960
I am not going anywhere.
1421
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,910
I'm only going to
change my clothes.
1422
01:07:54,910 --> 01:08:00,050
Every aspect of my
life is linked with him--
1423
01:08:00,050 --> 01:08:05,540
whether I sleep, whether I
eat, whether I practice yoga.
1424
01:08:05,540 --> 01:08:07,760
Everywhere, Guruji is with me.
1425
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,950
So I am lucky.
1426
01:08:09,950 --> 01:08:13,370
I was very lucky to have
been in and around him--
1427
01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:16,970
not just in the institute during
the classes or during practice,
1428
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:22,250
but also at home, because each--
now that he's no longer there,
1429
01:08:22,250 --> 01:08:32,410
each memory that I have of him
is a valuable thing for me now.
1430
01:08:32,410 --> 01:08:33,830
Guruji is never far from us.
1431
01:08:33,830 --> 01:08:35,779
He's certainly
never far from me.
1432
01:08:35,779 --> 01:08:38,210
He's always there on my mat.
1433
01:08:38,210 --> 01:08:42,649
And those lessons and
the tools that he gave
1434
01:08:42,649 --> 01:08:43,850
continue to evolve.
1435
01:08:43,850 --> 01:08:46,520
And for that, I'm
eternally grateful.
1436
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:51,200
And he really tuned in and
made us understand that his
1437
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,660
method wasn't his method--
1438
01:08:53,660 --> 01:08:56,300
that he was teaching
yoga, and that we
1439
01:08:56,300 --> 01:08:58,430
were calling it Iyengar Yoga.
1440
01:08:58,430 --> 01:09:01,130
And that it was something
greater than him.
1441
01:09:01,130 --> 01:09:03,260
And then what he taught
us is something so much
1442
01:09:03,260 --> 01:09:05,029
greater than all of us.
1443
01:09:05,029 --> 01:09:12,529
We can practice,
and go on in our life,
1444
01:09:12,529 --> 01:09:19,800
and follow the path so that
maybe one day his sentence,
1445
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:25,520
may my end be your
beginning, may be true.
1446
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,000
I always thought of
Guruji's teaching as rainfall.
1447
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,330
It was a downpour, and
whoever was lucky enough
1448
01:09:32,330 --> 01:09:34,850
to be in that field,
received that.
1449
01:09:34,850 --> 01:09:39,180
So he never chose,
or he never selected,
1450
01:09:39,180 --> 01:09:43,050
that he would teach this
person and not that person.
1451
01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:45,810
So whoever was there
just received it.
1452
01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:47,270
So it is the--
1453
01:09:47,270 --> 01:09:49,250
the onus is upon
each one of us who
1454
01:09:49,250 --> 01:09:53,060
was received that
rainfall to keep it alive
1455
01:09:53,060 --> 01:09:55,410
and to pass it on
as [INAUDIBLE]..
1456
01:09:55,410 --> 01:09:59,670
If you are practicing
yoga, do not get carried away,
1457
01:09:59,670 --> 01:10:00,948
but continue.
1458
01:10:00,948 --> 01:10:03,320
The light will come on its own.
1459
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,950
The fruit will fall to the
ground when it is ripe.
1460
01:10:05,950 --> 01:10:07,290
Is it not?
1461
01:10:07,290 --> 01:10:09,160
We are practicing yoga.
1462
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,120
So as we practicing,
the fruit has
1463
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,910
to come when the body and the
mind is right for it to fall.
1464
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:19,410
Then that is known
as self-realisation.
1465
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Because you have to
tend to the tree.
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01:10:21,090 --> 01:10:23,340
You have to look up to the
tree for the fruit to come.
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01:10:23,340 --> 01:10:26,223
So also, you have to look after
the body and the mind, which
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01:10:26,223 --> 01:10:29,580
are the tree of the soul, which
are the branches of the soul.
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01:10:29,580 --> 01:10:31,305
So they have to
be looked after so
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01:10:31,305 --> 01:10:33,480
that the essence
may come out and you
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01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:35,180
drink the essence of the soul.
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