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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,910 --> 00:00:08,347 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2 00:00:51,670 --> 00:00:53,610 BKS Iyengar. 3 00:00:53,610 --> 00:00:55,340 Courage. 4 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:57,010 What a man. 5 00:00:57,010 --> 00:00:58,730 What a teacher. 6 00:00:58,730 --> 00:01:02,810 Speaking about Iyengar is like speaking about a mountain. 7 00:01:02,810 --> 00:01:05,349 We say that he lived to be this many years old. 8 00:01:05,349 --> 00:01:08,750 He was born in the great influenza outbreak 9 00:01:08,750 --> 00:01:11,210 that his mother was afflicted with while she 10 00:01:11,210 --> 00:01:12,470 was pregnant with him. 11 00:01:12,470 --> 00:01:15,530 But what does that speak to of a man? 12 00:01:15,530 --> 00:01:17,950 First, he was my father. 13 00:01:17,950 --> 00:01:24,300 Later, as I began to understand things, he became a teacher. 14 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:28,160 And obviously, he is a guru. 15 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,520 And although my teacher in Glasgow talked very-- 16 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,150 with great reference about Mr. Iyengar, 17 00:01:34,150 --> 00:01:37,175 that was the first time I heard the term Guruji. 18 00:01:37,175 --> 00:01:41,330 And it was obvious in the way these people talked 19 00:01:41,330 --> 00:01:45,410 and their demeanor the huge influence he had, 20 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:48,510 the great respect that they had for him, 21 00:01:48,510 --> 00:01:50,990 the love that they had for him. 22 00:01:50,990 --> 00:01:54,230 I was in a bookstore when I was just a 21-year-old man 23 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:58,760 and was intrigued by the photos that I saw with that book that 24 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,390 we have come to see as the treatise of what yoga really 25 00:02:02,390 --> 00:02:03,380 could be. 26 00:02:03,380 --> 00:02:06,560 And opening the book and watching the pictures, 27 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:12,290 I was totally amazed that the master was totally keeping 28 00:02:12,290 --> 00:02:14,030 the control of the body. 29 00:02:14,030 --> 00:02:18,200 I was interested as to who is this person and how can he have 30 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,370 the same expression on his face, irrespective of whether the leg 31 00:02:21,370 --> 00:02:25,020 is around his neck or whether he's standing straight. 32 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:27,140 And when I saw the book Light on Yoga, 33 00:02:27,140 --> 00:02:32,930 I was so enthusiastic to meet this man and to meet him 34 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:35,910 in person and get teaching from him. 35 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:37,640 I had heard so much about him, 36 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,760 and I had heard of him in such high esteem. 37 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,090 And I remember holding my breath when I heard his footsteps 38 00:02:43,090 --> 00:02:45,800 and he opened the door and walked in, 39 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,520 chest first, a mighty man in simple white kurta. 40 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,480 So the first time I think that I saw him, 41 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,950 what struck me was how royal he looked-- 42 00:02:56,950 --> 00:03:02,230 his immaculately pressed silk dhoti or his silver hair 43 00:03:02,230 --> 00:03:04,430 and bushy eyebrows. 44 00:03:04,430 --> 00:03:07,220 He walked into the room, and suddenly there was this light. 45 00:03:07,220 --> 00:03:09,770 And I just knew, this is the man was 46 00:03:09,770 --> 00:03:11,450 going to teach me everything. 47 00:03:11,450 --> 00:03:15,230 And when he came out into the platform, 48 00:03:15,230 --> 00:03:19,040 his energy filled the room. 49 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,600 He was not a tall man. 50 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,150 He was a short man, but his energy which 51 00:03:23,150 --> 00:03:25,850 very tall and very expansive. 52 00:03:25,850 --> 00:03:29,060 And something inside of me at that moment 53 00:03:29,060 --> 00:03:34,190 knew that my life was forever changed. 54 00:03:34,190 --> 00:03:38,390 It was a moment where from the first moment I knew that 55 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:42,480 this was something very special that I had encountered 56 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,950 I didn't actually realize that he is something special. 57 00:03:45,950 --> 00:03:48,440 My father is something special. 58 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,570 I could see that he's different than others. 59 00:03:51,570 --> 00:03:54,400 He performs something in a different way. 60 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,700 It was awe and wonder, and it was-- 61 00:03:56,700 --> 00:03:59,840 there was something very engaging about it that made me 62 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,000 want to do better, to study the subject more, to practice, 63 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,150 and really get more into it. 64 00:04:08,150 --> 00:04:10,580 He was so inspiring. 65 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:15,210 I then when I was 16 or 17 years old when I started 66 00:04:15,210 --> 00:04:16,579 catching. 67 00:04:16,579 --> 00:04:23,390 He realized that no more I am taking it as earlier as a child 68 00:04:23,390 --> 00:04:24,730 will do. 69 00:04:24,730 --> 00:04:27,100 Somewhere he found that I'm serious 70 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:30,470 about it regularly doing. 71 00:04:30,470 --> 00:04:34,850 And then, my father understood that I'm really keen about it, 72 00:04:34,850 --> 00:04:38,170 and he started instructing me the right way 73 00:04:38,170 --> 00:04:40,420 of doing what has to be done-- 74 00:04:40,420 --> 00:04:44,830 how I have to lift myself, what has to be-- 75 00:04:44,830 --> 00:04:47,410 what has to happen in that asana, 76 00:04:47,410 --> 00:04:49,130 if I'm straightening myself. 77 00:04:49,130 --> 00:04:53,920 Whether it's straightening of limbs or lifting of the spine. 78 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,640 We were fortunate in Pune when we were here to see Guruji 79 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,880 not just be the guru-- 80 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,240 a guru. 81 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,870 We saw him when he was teaching, how he taught. 82 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:07,750 And he taught in a way which was amazing. 83 00:05:07,750 --> 00:05:10,000 It was masterful the way he taught. 84 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,290 In the classroom, he was formidable. 85 00:05:14,290 --> 00:05:18,250 We were all in awe, slightly scared. 86 00:05:18,250 --> 00:05:22,220 Absolutely fearful and really wondering whatever was going 87 00:05:22,220 --> 00:05:23,020 to happen. 88 00:05:23,020 --> 00:05:25,540 From the first time he walked into the room, 89 00:05:25,540 --> 00:05:27,940 into that yoga hall, was, for me, 90 00:05:27,940 --> 00:05:31,510 was just like a lightning bolt. He was so relentless, 91 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:34,820 and he was so challenging, and he was so confronting, 92 00:05:34,820 --> 00:05:37,450 but he was also entirely captivating. 93 00:05:37,450 --> 00:05:40,480 We would just whisper amongst ourselves that the prowler has 94 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,930 entered the class, because he really was like a lion. 95 00:05:43,930 --> 00:05:46,690 And he would prowl around the class 96 00:05:46,690 --> 00:05:52,620 with these leonine strides and basically strike fear in your-- 97 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:54,790 in anybody's heart. 98 00:05:54,790 --> 00:05:58,660 Like most many students, we were very, very afraid of him. 99 00:05:58,660 --> 00:06:04,850 The Guruji came into our classes and stood near us. 100 00:06:04,850 --> 00:06:06,850 We would actually go running to the prop room 101 00:06:06,850 --> 00:06:09,660 and stay there for some time until we were hauled out of it. 102 00:06:09,660 --> 00:06:11,410 To an outsider who did not know Guruji, 103 00:06:11,410 --> 00:06:14,740 you would think that he was sometimes very angry with 104 00:06:14,740 --> 00:06:15,760 the students. 105 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,370 But as teachers, we realized that it was not 106 00:06:19,370 --> 00:06:21,680 the anger towards these students, 107 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,190 but it was an anger towards something which is not correct. 108 00:06:25,190 --> 00:06:29,720 So there was no such tolerance there for mistakes. 109 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,010 Sorry all are listening. 110 00:06:32,010 --> 00:06:34,510 Not one adjusted. 111 00:06:34,510 --> 00:06:36,200 I will not teach. 112 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,700 I will go back to India today alone if you do not 113 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:42,700 listen to what I say. 114 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:44,940 A lot of people used to say that he's too strict. 115 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:47,440 But when you do something, when you learn something, 116 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,900 so Guruji was the best. 117 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:56,340 Guruji used to say, it is not tip of the fingers, 118 00:06:56,340 --> 00:06:58,130 top of the tip of the fingers. 119 00:06:58,130 --> 00:06:59,780 I was surprised. 120 00:06:59,780 --> 00:07:00,900 How can it be? 121 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:03,060 Tip of the finger itself is as a top. 122 00:07:03,060 --> 00:07:05,390 How can it be top of the tip of the fingers? 123 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:09,440 Then he said, see, this is what the sensitiveness. 124 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,010 The top of the tip of the finger means it is so sensitive, 125 00:07:13,010 --> 00:07:19,160 delicate, if you touch the nose, the moment the finger goes 126 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,010 to the nose, you should know that. 127 00:07:21,010 --> 00:07:22,520 You should feel it. 128 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,770 There was already an air of excitement in the room, 129 00:07:24,770 --> 00:07:27,170 because we knew that the Mr. Iyengar had come in and was 130 00:07:27,170 --> 00:07:29,840 beginning his daily practice inside. 131 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,520 But after a while, we forgot about him, 132 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,730 and we were focusing on what the teacher was saying. 133 00:07:34,730 --> 00:07:38,510 Until suddenly, there was this roar from the back of the room. 134 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:41,110 No one is doing much she said. 135 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:44,480 And he marched up to the front and took over, 136 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,490 and it was marvelous. 137 00:07:46,490 --> 00:07:48,780 It was terrifying, but it was marvelous. 138 00:07:48,780 --> 00:07:54,860 He committed a mask to discipline people rather than 139 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:56,270 to spread fear. 140 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:59,720 When he was hitting, shouting, 141 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,100 we knew that he was right inside, outside. 142 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:08,060 There was no doubt that to remove 143 00:08:08,060 --> 00:08:15,000 this wrong state of mind, he had to drink in some manner 144 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,870 these wrong feelings, wrong way of doing. 145 00:08:20,870 --> 00:08:27,030 I was trying to do Bakasana time after time after time, 146 00:08:27,030 --> 00:08:29,590 and falling off, and slipping off, 147 00:08:29,590 --> 00:08:32,070 and just getting frustrated. 148 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:33,740 And I was getting tired. 149 00:08:33,740 --> 00:08:37,419 And Rya had came walking across the room up to me. 150 00:08:37,419 --> 00:08:42,770 And he said to me, Guruji sent me over to tell you 151 00:08:42,770 --> 00:08:45,740 that you can't expect him to come over to you if you 152 00:08:45,740 --> 00:08:48,600 want help with your pose. 153 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,780 I looked up at Rya and said, OK, I'll come over. 154 00:08:53,780 --> 00:08:56,630 And I walked over to Guruji, and then he 155 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:58,530 proceeded to put me through my paces 156 00:08:58,530 --> 00:09:01,700 for another 20 minutes of Bakasana practice, 157 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:05,420 until I didn't even realize that my arms were 158 00:09:05,420 --> 00:09:10,170 numb from the elbow down, until I fell out of the pose. 159 00:09:10,170 --> 00:09:12,650 And I tried to break my fall, and I couldn't even 160 00:09:12,650 --> 00:09:13,470 move my hands. 161 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:16,130 And he said, that's enough for today. 162 00:09:16,130 --> 00:09:17,150 Did you learn something? 163 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:19,130 And he wiggled his eyebrows. 164 00:09:19,130 --> 00:09:21,840 And we laughed. 165 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,963 Oh, and then, the next day, in the practice hall-- 166 00:09:24,963 --> 00:09:28,770 the numbness-- that's right, the numbers didn't go away. 167 00:09:28,770 --> 00:09:31,070 And so I was a little worried, but I 168 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:33,050 didn't want to bother him. 169 00:09:33,050 --> 00:09:34,670 And I was over by the ropes. 170 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:39,180 I was trying to hold the rope, but my hand wouldn't work. 171 00:09:39,180 --> 00:09:43,040 And so he came over to me, and he was so tender and sweet. 172 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:49,315 He took his kerchief out of his pocket, and he wrapped my palm. 173 00:09:49,315 --> 00:09:50,690 He said, this one's worse, right? 174 00:09:50,690 --> 00:09:51,523 And I said, yes sir. 175 00:09:51,523 --> 00:09:52,910 The left one is worse. 176 00:09:52,910 --> 00:09:57,400 And he wrapped my palm in a very specific way. 177 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,770 And I was so surprised and grateful. 178 00:09:59,770 --> 00:10:02,850 Then he said, now, do Bakasana again. 179 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:06,770 I'm like, oh, no. 180 00:10:06,770 --> 00:10:10,100 He was generous, but he was relentless. 181 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:11,770 We were all in Sirsasana-- 182 00:10:11,770 --> 00:10:14,120 Salamba Sirsasana, head balance. 183 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,300 And he was walking through the lines of people 184 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:19,100 standing on their head. 185 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:24,040 And when he was coming close to my place, 186 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,460 I suddenly felt something pushing my chin. 187 00:10:28,460 --> 00:10:30,230 And I didn't realize immediately, 188 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:33,140 but he was just standing up straight in front of me. 189 00:10:33,140 --> 00:10:36,620 And it was actually his foot correcting my chin 190 00:10:36,620 --> 00:10:39,390 to go a little more deep down to the floor. 191 00:10:39,390 --> 00:10:44,940 He would exactly correct, touching that spot which would 192 00:10:44,940 --> 00:10:49,050 make the person to do everything rightly. 193 00:10:49,050 --> 00:10:52,280 It was a special touch. 194 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,540 For example, let us say, he may touch your shoulders, 195 00:10:55,540 --> 00:10:59,580 or he may touch your dorsal spine somewhere, or somewhere 196 00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:01,730 spine at the lower area-- 197 00:11:01,730 --> 00:11:04,300 lumbar spine or sacrum spine. 198 00:11:04,300 --> 00:11:08,680 That touch will be not much for you at that time, 199 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:11,670 but he will exactly touch there, and the hole posture 200 00:11:11,670 --> 00:11:13,180 will change. 201 00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:16,300 And you will come out of the experience different-- totally 202 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:17,500 different. 203 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:20,710 Once I was in a particular pose, 204 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:25,890 and he came from behind and pushed my tailbone. 205 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:31,240 The comfort that I felt after that is unimagined. 206 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,550 Some could say that he had kicked me. 207 00:11:33,550 --> 00:11:37,130 I remember one time, I was in Sirsasana during the practice, 208 00:11:37,130 --> 00:11:40,610 and I didn't see him coming. 209 00:11:40,610 --> 00:11:45,140 But what I felt was a kick suddenly just here, 210 00:11:45,140 --> 00:11:46,130 on the ribs. 211 00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:48,980 So I had been sticking my ribs out in Sirsasana. 212 00:11:48,980 --> 00:11:52,540 and he kicked pretty hard, and he just instantly 213 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:53,680 pushed that part back. 214 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:56,230 And my back, buttocks, and legs just went up. 215 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:57,280 I didn't fall. 216 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,890 But he had this way of doing something like that, 217 00:11:59,890 --> 00:12:02,150 and just recently putting you into a better pose. 218 00:12:02,150 --> 00:12:04,357 He knew just how much to kick and where, 219 00:12:04,357 --> 00:12:06,190 and then you would be there in another pose. 220 00:12:06,190 --> 00:12:09,070 It would just shift your reality suddenly like that. 221 00:12:09,070 --> 00:12:11,440 Other people would say, didn't that hurt? 222 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,210 That must have really been awful. 223 00:12:13,210 --> 00:12:17,050 And I said, no, the touch was very, very light. 224 00:12:17,050 --> 00:12:22,690 It was light, but it lasted for a very, very long time. 225 00:12:22,690 --> 00:12:25,600 His ability was to bring something out 226 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,920 in each student to let them have their own personal experience. 227 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,910 It was never a generalized class experience in that way. 228 00:12:33,910 --> 00:12:52,000 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 229 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,260 Without words, he used to teach me. 230 00:12:56,260 --> 00:13:00,250 He was able to be however he needed to be for different 231 00:13:00,250 --> 00:13:04,160 people, and he was able to just switch instantly. 232 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,290 But the real impact, I found, was in the experience that one 233 00:13:08,290 --> 00:13:10,930 had of oneself when he taught. 234 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:13,680 When you were in his classes, he opened up 235 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:15,610 a sort of hidden potential. 236 00:13:15,610 --> 00:13:17,860 He showed you things, or he led you, 237 00:13:17,860 --> 00:13:20,597 brought you to things that you never thought were possible. 238 00:13:20,597 --> 00:13:22,180 There was going to be a mega class, 239 00:13:22,180 --> 00:13:23,410 and I think it was going to be-- the first time, 240 00:13:23,410 --> 00:13:25,713 there was going to be 1,000 students in the mega class. 241 00:13:25,713 --> 00:13:27,880 And he was sitting here in the library, and he says, 242 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,610 I think I can do 1,000 students-- meaning 243 00:13:30,610 --> 00:13:34,432 that all those other mega classes that had like 300, 500, 244 00:13:34,432 --> 00:13:37,390 700, he wouldn't take that mega class 245 00:13:37,390 --> 00:13:39,340 just because 300 people wanted to come, 246 00:13:39,340 --> 00:13:42,070 500 people wanted to come, 700 people wanted to come. 247 00:13:42,070 --> 00:13:46,360 No, he had a kind of ethics that if he couldn't see everyone, 248 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,010 he wouldn't take that. 249 00:13:48,010 --> 00:13:52,287 But he had that ability to see that many people all at once. 250 00:13:52,287 --> 00:13:54,620 And he would correct people in the far back of the room. 251 00:13:54,620 --> 00:13:56,230 He would point out someone's tailbone 252 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:58,630 in the very back of the room, someone else, thump their thigh 253 00:13:58,630 --> 00:13:59,470 and so forth. 254 00:13:59,470 --> 00:14:03,790 It's like he has as many eyes as many students are there that 255 00:14:03,790 --> 00:14:04,670 day. 256 00:14:04,670 --> 00:14:07,330 If there are 100 students, he has 100 eyes. 257 00:14:07,330 --> 00:14:09,610 And he had penetrative intelligence. 258 00:14:09,610 --> 00:14:15,280 He would go beyond the layers of the body to go to the soul. 259 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,270 He certainly knew all about one as a person. 260 00:14:19,270 --> 00:14:21,430 When you met him, there was no question 261 00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:25,030 of concealing anything. 262 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:26,290 He knew about you. 263 00:14:26,290 --> 00:14:29,020 So he had seen me in class. 264 00:14:29,020 --> 00:14:32,200 And I was laying upside down, just-- 265 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,530 really bhoga, not yoga, I have to admit. 266 00:14:35,530 --> 00:14:39,550 My eyes were closed, and my hands were on the floor. 267 00:14:39,550 --> 00:14:43,620 And I felt a piece of paper being pushed into my hand. 268 00:14:43,620 --> 00:14:45,990 So I opened my eyes. 269 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:47,710 My hand was on the floor. 270 00:14:47,710 --> 00:14:50,140 And Guruji was kneeling on the floor, 271 00:14:50,140 --> 00:14:53,080 looking up at me in the robes. 272 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,680 And I said, oh, sir. 273 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,750 And he said, give this to Mary Dunn. 274 00:14:58,750 --> 00:15:03,230 Mary Dunn was my wonderful teacher in San Diego. 275 00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:04,900 And I said, of course, sir. 276 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:10,330 But how did you know that I know Mary Dunn? 277 00:15:10,330 --> 00:15:12,970 And he said, I saw you in class this morning. 278 00:15:12,970 --> 00:15:16,870 You make the same mistakes that she does. 279 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:19,760 He told me even before Isaac was born that you are going 280 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,700 to-- by the way, you are carrying a male child. 281 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:25,140 Because many people have said that Guruji 282 00:15:25,140 --> 00:15:26,560 is the man with the x-ray eyes. 283 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,790 So doesn't surprise me that he already knew that. 284 00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:33,340 I remember yawning once in class, 285 00:15:33,340 --> 00:15:34,840 but I had my back of my head to him. 286 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,753 And he said, why are you yawning? 287 00:15:36,753 --> 00:15:38,420 And I said, how do you know I'm yawning? 288 00:15:38,420 --> 00:15:39,628 I've got my head to the back. 289 00:15:39,628 --> 00:15:42,391 He says, your ears move when you yawn. 290 00:15:42,391 --> 00:15:46,450 If there is going something going on in your mind, 291 00:15:46,450 --> 00:15:49,190 he will recognize it. 292 00:15:49,190 --> 00:15:50,440 He would take it jokingly. 293 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,580 Hey, where are you What are you thinking, he may say. 294 00:15:54,580 --> 00:15:59,210 So if you were in the class and you were inattentive 295 00:15:59,210 --> 00:16:02,030 and weren't appreciating that he was talking to you, 296 00:16:02,030 --> 00:16:04,635 then you would certainly know about it. 297 00:16:04,635 --> 00:16:10,280 He will exactly find out what was going on in your mind-- 298 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,510 what was your brain doing. 299 00:16:13,510 --> 00:16:14,970 And that was shocking. 300 00:16:14,970 --> 00:16:16,510 How does he know? 301 00:16:16,510 --> 00:16:18,870 This, I think, was the quality of Guruji. 302 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:22,110 Without having to speak, without having to tell him, 303 00:16:22,110 --> 00:16:24,150 without having to show him anything, 304 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:26,310 he instinctively or intuitively somehow 305 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:28,350 knew the problems of each person. 306 00:16:28,350 --> 00:16:32,310 He is exactly make out the defect-- 307 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:36,060 physical defect, physiological defect. 308 00:16:36,060 --> 00:16:39,750 He looked at me and he diagnosed my problem without 309 00:16:39,750 --> 00:16:45,210 looking at my reports, but only looking at my skin of the neck. 310 00:16:45,210 --> 00:16:48,870 He never asked anyone to bring the reports. 311 00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:52,330 He never asked anyone go tested, get pathological report 312 00:16:52,330 --> 00:16:53,880 or radiological report. 313 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,880 If somebody came with it, he'd say-- 314 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,970 turn a blind eye. 315 00:16:56,970 --> 00:16:58,700 I don't want to look at all that. 316 00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:02,550 She had his own subjective diagnostics. 317 00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:04,980 As far as the organic body is concerned, 318 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:08,819 he would be very sure, whether kidneys have gone wrong, 319 00:17:08,819 --> 00:17:12,780 or heart is wrong, or lungs are wrong. 320 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:14,280 How did he even know about that? 321 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,910 He had no educational background on how cells work. 322 00:17:18,910 --> 00:17:22,200 There are no scientific instruments he had-- 323 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,020 no microscopes, nor stethoscopes. 324 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:26,579 But still he-- 325 00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:29,820 I have no idea how he saw all those things. 326 00:17:29,820 --> 00:17:32,370 He had his own scanning eyes. 327 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:34,120 Before the student would say, Guruji, I've 328 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,930 got this gastric problem or a lung problem, 329 00:17:36,930 --> 00:17:39,690 he would divulge it to the patient. 330 00:17:39,690 --> 00:17:41,660 He would say, this is your problem. 331 00:17:41,660 --> 00:17:44,060 Say if you are tensed, he won't look at your eyes. 332 00:17:44,060 --> 00:17:46,380 He would look at your throat and say you are tensed. 333 00:17:46,380 --> 00:17:49,720 He looked at the gestures. 334 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,390 He looked at the throat. 335 00:17:51,390 --> 00:17:53,370 He looked at the shoulders. 336 00:17:53,370 --> 00:17:55,010 He used to say walk. 337 00:17:55,010 --> 00:17:57,360 And when the person walked before him, 338 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,660 he will know exactly what is the matter with him. 339 00:18:00,660 --> 00:18:03,330 And then, he starts his teaching. 340 00:18:03,330 --> 00:18:05,910 Greeta would ask, because naturally, she 341 00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:07,500 would be surprised. 342 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:11,070 I asked him, but he said, look, 343 00:18:11,070 --> 00:18:13,520 there is no method for that. 344 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,530 It's not something-- the methodology to say that isn't-- 345 00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:20,630 I talked to him in this manner. 346 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:23,820 But he gave me certain clues. 347 00:18:23,820 --> 00:18:24,620 What clues? 348 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:27,010 He said, look at his eyes-- 349 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:32,100 when I'm talking to him, where he was looking. 350 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:37,150 Or the way he talks to me, find out how he is answering. 351 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:40,110 Look at the posture, how he is sitting. 352 00:18:40,110 --> 00:18:42,000 These are the clues he gave me. 353 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,070 This was a great thing that he had that faculty. 354 00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:49,440 And no student ever bothered how to get that faculty, 355 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,810 rather than depend upon the pathologists and radiologists 356 00:18:52,810 --> 00:18:55,800 to tell us what this person is suffering from. 357 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,820 Some of my closest interactions with BKS Iyengar 358 00:18:58,820 --> 00:19:01,740 were during the remedial classes or the medical classes here 359 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:02,850 in Pune. 360 00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:05,680 And I think what was most interesting 361 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,510 about those interactions were learning under him 362 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:12,070 and the way he worked psychologically differently 363 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:13,210 with different people. 364 00:19:13,210 --> 00:19:15,640 I was watching the medical classes there. 365 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,580 And in those days, we had to sit on stairs 366 00:19:18,580 --> 00:19:21,280 and had a great view of the whole room. 367 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,620 And watching Guruji dart around the room helping everyone, 368 00:19:26,620 --> 00:19:28,060 he just seemed like lightning. 369 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:29,380 I wouldn't even see him move. 370 00:19:29,380 --> 00:19:31,240 He would just be somewhere, and then he 371 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,170 was somewhere else, and somewhere else, 372 00:19:33,170 --> 00:19:35,980 and seemed to be helping everyone at the same time. 373 00:19:35,980 --> 00:19:39,500 The rhythm that he would always get into. 374 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:42,050 And that was magnificent. 375 00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:45,460 It's just the exuberance of energy 376 00:19:45,460 --> 00:19:47,300 that was just magnificent. 377 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:50,890 And at one point, he came to help a woman who was pretty 378 00:19:50,890 --> 00:19:53,440 close to where we were sitting on the stairs. 379 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,005 And he was helping her to do drop backs. 380 00:19:56,005 --> 00:19:57,770 And she was a fairly young woman. 381 00:19:57,770 --> 00:20:00,970 She had long braids on either side. 382 00:20:00,970 --> 00:20:05,230 And he was giving her directions to get 383 00:20:05,230 --> 00:20:08,710 her to be able to drop back, but she was nervous, of course, 384 00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:12,250 and seemed afraid. 385 00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:16,610 She was very flexible, but she seemed scared to drop back. 386 00:20:16,610 --> 00:20:20,350 So he was helping her, but she had couldn't really 387 00:20:20,350 --> 00:20:22,990 take the directions that he was saying to her. 388 00:20:22,990 --> 00:20:27,640 So all of a sudden, he grabbed her two braids 389 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,080 and pulled them down and forward and up. 390 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,010 And she went right back and did the drop back. 391 00:20:33,010 --> 00:20:35,750 And she let out a squeal and was so happy. 392 00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:38,800 And then he turned to her and turned to us 393 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,670 and said, see how she can open her chest now? 394 00:20:42,670 --> 00:20:47,380 I tell you, he was handling the patient with his own hands. 395 00:20:47,380 --> 00:20:50,213 Helping each individual into the asanas. 396 00:20:50,213 --> 00:20:51,880 Many times, he used to use his own head. 397 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,120 Like for example, you're lying down in Supta Padangusthasana, 398 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,290 where one leg up and you're lying down on the floor. 399 00:20:56,290 --> 00:20:58,000 And he used to be standing there behind 400 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,500 and his head hitting out towards the person's calves 401 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,110 and with his hands pulling in. 402 00:21:02,110 --> 00:21:06,870 Arms, legs, head, neck, chest, back-- 403 00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:10,580 everything he would make use of to support it. 404 00:21:10,580 --> 00:21:13,850 Not just standing nearby and saying, do do, I will help you. 405 00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:14,650 No. 406 00:21:14,650 --> 00:21:16,540 He knows exactly. 407 00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:20,050 So he used to actually make me sit in Baddha Konasana 408 00:21:20,050 --> 00:21:23,650 and fully himself used to climb on my knees. 409 00:21:23,650 --> 00:21:27,330 So entire Tata on standing on top of me. 410 00:21:27,330 --> 00:21:30,840 And I used to be really scared in those initial days, but-- 411 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,980 it used to actually-- he actually creeped open 412 00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:35,410 my groins like that, to give that freedom 413 00:21:35,410 --> 00:21:37,570 and life over there. 414 00:21:37,570 --> 00:21:41,540 I had streptococcus infection in my throat, 415 00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:44,050 and it affected my all small joints. 416 00:21:44,050 --> 00:21:47,120 So rheumatoid arthritis like that. 417 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,240 So I could not hold my pen. 418 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,250 I could not open the lock. 419 00:21:51,250 --> 00:21:52,960 I could not hold the cooker. 420 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,400 Nothing I could do. 421 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,020 Then, when I came in June to Pune, 422 00:21:57,020 --> 00:22:00,650 he made me to do many postures. 423 00:22:00,650 --> 00:22:03,520 And especially full arm balance, it 424 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,280 was really-- my doctors were surprised. 425 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,790 He put the slanting plank and kept my palm on it. 426 00:22:11,790 --> 00:22:15,030 And I used to do full arm balance. 427 00:22:15,030 --> 00:22:20,600 And slowly, my pain was gone. 428 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,800 And when I went back to Chennai, the doctor say it is amazing, 429 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,330 because this is cannot be cured. 430 00:22:27,330 --> 00:22:30,940 Your father has done something which is really-- 431 00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:33,850 medical science tells me it was surprising. 432 00:22:33,850 --> 00:22:37,580 He's given life to many people with medical issues, 433 00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:38,380 health issues. 434 00:22:38,380 --> 00:22:41,870 I had a lot of trust in him and I believed him. 435 00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:45,160 And this finger-- he treated me. 436 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,535 I'm telling you, this was tough for me, you know? 437 00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:51,535 Especially for a wicket keeper, the index finger 438 00:22:51,535 --> 00:22:53,700 is very, very important to collect the ball. 439 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:55,030 Everything come here. 440 00:22:55,030 --> 00:22:59,200 And this finger was treated by him totally. 441 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,570 And I still cry, literally. 442 00:23:01,570 --> 00:23:03,150 And he used to push me so hard. 443 00:23:03,150 --> 00:23:06,012 He was hanging on both fingers, like this. 444 00:23:06,012 --> 00:23:08,470 And it's not only one minute, two-- but it used to be there 445 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:09,803 were five minutes, four minutes. 446 00:23:09,803 --> 00:23:10,900 Push me hard. 447 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:13,590 Now you will be amazed. 448 00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:17,240 He used to put me in some poses. 449 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,720 where I could actually palpitate my own kidney. 450 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,630 Very difficult to believe. 451 00:23:23,630 --> 00:23:25,830 And nobody, of course, today knows those 452 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:29,240 poses or remembers those poses. 453 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,940 But til I was with him, my blood pressure, kidney function, 454 00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:38,600 and everything else continued to remain absolutely normal. 455 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,740 Then there were quite a few who used to come with weakness 456 00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:44,700 in the arms, legs. 457 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:46,590 Standing itself was difficult. There 458 00:23:46,590 --> 00:23:48,020 were physically challenged. 459 00:23:48,020 --> 00:23:51,710 He could not be stipulating the classical postures 460 00:23:51,710 --> 00:23:54,252 and actions of yoga. 461 00:23:54,252 --> 00:23:55,960 So therefore, he thought that they should 462 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,590 be given some assistance. 463 00:23:57,590 --> 00:24:00,280 Suppose person having a heart problem, blood pressure, 464 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,730 this kind of patient. 465 00:24:01,730 --> 00:24:05,300 So how to make them to bend on the backside? 466 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:08,140 So he understood that if the asanas are to work, 467 00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:10,510 one must be in the position. 468 00:24:10,510 --> 00:24:13,760 And therefore, the props were developed. 469 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,040 So you know you will be surprised that he used to have 470 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,010 whatever in the house is small like bed. 471 00:24:21,010 --> 00:24:24,770 And in those days, cotton bed because you could roll it. 472 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:28,510 So cotton bed he will use. 473 00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:33,140 The chapati roller, simple thing, he will use it. 474 00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:35,290 We had a stick-- 475 00:24:35,290 --> 00:24:36,620 a simple wooden stick. 476 00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:40,650 He will use that, and will make that area to work. 477 00:24:40,650 --> 00:24:43,290 I have left the pain over here. 478 00:24:43,290 --> 00:24:45,300 And he gave me a stick like this. 479 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:47,640 He picked up a stick, which was laying there. 480 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,260 And this is what you do. 481 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:53,880 And you do it a few times, and your pain will be gone. 482 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,100 Now, this pose is not given in any yoga book 483 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:57,900 anywhere in the world. 484 00:24:57,900 --> 00:24:59,940 Only Guruji could innovate it. 485 00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:03,480 Only he could teach you this. 486 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,680 Things that I could not even imagine could be used would 487 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,830 prove to be such a valuable aid in enlightening or showing 488 00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:12,630 something. 489 00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:15,320 A couple of thing, it came accidentally. 490 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,280 So there was a one belt lying in the institute. 491 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,410 Then he just took the belt, put it on the backside of his hand. 492 00:25:22,410 --> 00:25:23,960 Then he would do Sarvangasana. 493 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,540 And he said, oh, my god. 494 00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:29,170 Rather than telling to people go on Sarvangasana 495 00:25:29,170 --> 00:25:32,100 and take your elbow back, better lock his elbow now only 496 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:34,020 in the belt and let him go. 497 00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:37,560 So something should sustain so that posture can work 498 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,640 for remedy. 499 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,640 If you are sustaining your body, the posture 500 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,570 won't be really working to disseminate the effects. 501 00:25:43,570 --> 00:25:46,590 So that's why he developed props for yoga to work on you. 502 00:25:46,590 --> 00:25:49,280 If yoga doesn't work on you, how will you get remedy? 503 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,440 He observed and he incorporated props. 504 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,970 So did he invent props? 505 00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:56,460 I think he would probably challenge that. 506 00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:58,770 He would say, I observe nature and do repeat something. 507 00:25:58,770 --> 00:26:00,370 So is that invention? 508 00:26:00,370 --> 00:26:02,010 It certainly is. 509 00:26:02,010 --> 00:26:03,700 It certainly is in some perspective. 510 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,490 There are many people that started call it as prop yoga. 511 00:26:06,490 --> 00:26:08,730 So they have kind of bought all the props. 512 00:26:08,730 --> 00:26:10,230 They own it, but they don't know how 513 00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:12,930 to use it, what to do, or reach out to the cord. 514 00:26:12,930 --> 00:26:14,830 And these days, I keep on telling them, 515 00:26:14,830 --> 00:26:18,470 you don't know what hardship he had to make-- 516 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:24,170 to create these props, because it has to suite the human body. 517 00:26:24,170 --> 00:26:27,390 Guruji used to say, this is a chumbal. 518 00:26:27,390 --> 00:26:33,660 This is the Guruji's last research of the prop. 519 00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:37,620 In 2011, when he went to China at the age of 93, 520 00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:40,320 in front of the audience, which was around 1,200 students from 521 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,720 China, he said, look. 522 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,520 Look at me. 523 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,970 I've been teaching for such a long time. 524 00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:47,490 And till that time, when I was doing Baddha Konasana, 525 00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:50,910 I used to put the wooden brick, which was like a block. 526 00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,400 I should have realized that the bucket is shaped-- 527 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,765 it's curved and it's rounded in shape. 528 00:26:55,765 --> 00:26:58,390 And the chumbal is what-- it is taking that shape and giving 529 00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:59,490 you that support. 530 00:26:59,490 --> 00:27:00,540 So I have been-- 531 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:02,383 this is what I've invented now, and that's 532 00:27:02,383 --> 00:27:04,050 what I've realized now-- how stupid I've 533 00:27:04,050 --> 00:27:05,310 been to use a wooden block. 534 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:07,890 So small things that he did, actually, 535 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:10,530 have touched me much more, especially his simplicity, 536 00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:13,290 and humility, and his ability to say, you know, 537 00:27:13,290 --> 00:27:16,050 I'm still learning at the age of 95, and the whole world-- 538 00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:18,010 and to say it in public. 539 00:27:18,010 --> 00:27:20,400 He was always ready to say, I do not know. 540 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,160 In spite of the fact that he knew so much, if he did not 541 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,930 know, he said he did not know. 542 00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:27,420 Or he may-- there's a problem which came up 543 00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:28,930 while he was teaching class. 544 00:27:28,930 --> 00:27:32,840 And he, in his younger days, and if he did not have the answer. 545 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,620 So he says, OK, I'll tell you. 546 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:36,630 Then he would practice at home to find out 547 00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:38,610 what is the real answer to the question which 548 00:27:38,610 --> 00:27:39,520 has been posed to me. 549 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,620 So it's not just he's going to try one thing 550 00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:42,720 and that's going to work. 551 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,760 Maybe even putting himself in harm's way, 552 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,635 trying all different things. 553 00:27:46,635 --> 00:27:48,760 If he was going to prescribe something to somebody, 554 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,830 he wanted to know what are the things 555 00:27:50,830 --> 00:27:52,350 that work, what doesn't work. 556 00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:55,170 His body was like a laboratory. 557 00:27:55,170 --> 00:27:56,510 He would practice on it. 558 00:27:56,510 --> 00:28:02,160 He was severe with himself, not that he pampered his body. 559 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,240 He was a dedicated practitioner himself. 560 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,160 And he was severe with his body to experiment. 561 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,370 Therefore, he has often said, when I teach, I am a scientist. 562 00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:17,680 Actually, if you are teaching, you should be a teacher. 563 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,360 But then, he never had that opportunity. 564 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,180 He said, when I teach, I am a scientist, 565 00:28:21,180 --> 00:28:24,180 because I have to evolve person to person, 566 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:25,740 what are the requirements. 567 00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:27,300 If this person requires this chair, 568 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:29,590 somebody requires a taller chair. 569 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:32,190 So he had to work that way. 570 00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:34,773 He said that his students, in a sense, were his teachers, 571 00:28:34,773 --> 00:28:36,690 because he saw what mistakes they were making, 572 00:28:36,690 --> 00:28:38,730 or something that they were doing right, 573 00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:40,920 which he probably had not realized. 574 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,600 But he would meet them and say, oh, this 575 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,267 is something which is new I am learning. 576 00:28:44,267 --> 00:28:47,310 He was never a one way street that means I know it all. 577 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:51,510 So he was, in that sense, very scientific. 578 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:54,840 Just like in science, there's always an inquisitiveness 579 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,820 to know more about more things. 580 00:28:56,820 --> 00:29:00,100 That kind of inquisitiveness was certainly there, I can say. 581 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:06,480 His intelligence and the way he introduced yoga, 582 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,060 the way he studied every day in the library the yoga texts, 583 00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:15,270 his explanations. 584 00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:17,570 And he was amazing, that a man who 585 00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:22,320 had had no academic education had such a lot of knowledge 586 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,830 about this line. 587 00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:27,690 So when he was writing the Yoga Sutra Patanjali, 588 00:29:27,690 --> 00:29:31,710 the text was ready, but he was telling me that there are lots 589 00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:34,740 of things that he would like to experience before being sure 590 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:37,210 and to put them on the page. 591 00:29:37,210 --> 00:29:42,570 Finally, we reached it in '92 to the final editing of the work. 592 00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:44,450 In the same place in this library, 593 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:47,370 almost on the same table, I was doing the editing work, 594 00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:50,970 and one of my friends I was entering them in the computer, 595 00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:54,200 and Guruji was supervising the whole work. 596 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,690 When we reached Yoga Sutra, that the meaning was not very clear, 597 00:29:57,690 --> 00:30:01,980 and his explanations, also, we were trying to write. 598 00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:03,520 And it was not really corresponding. 599 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,800 It was not very convincing. 600 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,220 We were working day and night. 601 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:11,850 And one night-- it was around 4:00 in the morning-- somebody 602 00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:13,950 knocked on my door, because I was living upstairs 603 00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:15,420 in the institute. 604 00:30:15,420 --> 00:30:16,690 And then, I opened the door. 605 00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:18,780 It was Guruji himself. 606 00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:19,960 And he goes, can I enter? 607 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,380 I told, of course you can enter, but I am sorry. 608 00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:23,400 I am just coming out. 609 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:23,700 No, no, no. 610 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:24,610 Go back to your bed. 611 00:30:24,610 --> 00:30:26,610 He pushed me back to my bed. 612 00:30:26,610 --> 00:30:28,740 My friend also was in his bed. 613 00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:31,800 And he sat on the side of my bed. 614 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,100 And he explained, amazingly, very clearly, 615 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,330 like a really crystal clear, the Sutra. 616 00:30:38,330 --> 00:30:40,770 Then he told, now is it understood? 617 00:30:40,770 --> 00:30:43,030 And we told, yes, you can write it like that. 618 00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:43,830 Yes. 619 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:46,530 Then he walked away and we watched ourselves. 620 00:30:46,530 --> 00:30:50,670 And we knew that it was just coming from his own practice 621 00:30:50,670 --> 00:30:52,200 in that very morning. 622 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,730 There was one practice where he had his leg up on the tall 623 00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:59,950 stool, and I was just there next to him, 624 00:30:59,950 --> 00:31:02,612 just literally this far away from him. 625 00:31:02,612 --> 00:31:03,570 And I was watching him. 626 00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:08,100 And over two minutes, every two seconds, 627 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,650 he would shift and do something a little different, 628 00:31:10,650 --> 00:31:13,470 catch the imprint of that, and then do 629 00:31:13,470 --> 00:31:16,570 another thing for two seconds, then catch the imprint of that. 630 00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:20,610 So if you count that up over two minutes-- 631 00:31:20,610 --> 00:31:23,310 30 seconds one minute, 30 seconds the other minute-- 632 00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:26,280 he did like 60 different trials within two minutes. 633 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,360 He had that speed of being able to catch what was happening, 634 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,520 record it, and then just go on to the next thing. 635 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,440 Just an incredible speed. 636 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,720 Even well into his 90s, he would be discovering new 637 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,520 things. 638 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,370 He would be discussing this with Geeta aunty or Prashantji. 639 00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:44,160 Yesterday, I was trying this for the last two days. 640 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,350 In Sirsasana, I was doing this particular variation. 641 00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:49,020 And I spent 10 extra minutes. 642 00:31:49,020 --> 00:31:52,110 And this is what I felt. There's a relief in a certain thing 643 00:31:52,110 --> 00:31:52,950 that I felt. 644 00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:55,050 He never stopped practicing. 645 00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:57,030 He never stopped learning. 646 00:31:57,030 --> 00:32:00,660 He never stopped exploring and experimenting. 647 00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:06,580 He made this voyage from the outside in. 648 00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:13,360 And he did that while having a loving marriage. 649 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,280 If he has any success, it was because that [INAUDIBLE] that 650 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,010 energy, that Shakti was Ramamani, his wife, behind him. 651 00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:25,470 She's a light in my life. 652 00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:28,780 She never demanded anything from me. 653 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:32,840 She could definitely make out that he has something different 654 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,610 in him. 655 00:32:34,610 --> 00:32:39,870 So she gave full support, full freedom, 656 00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:42,560 to him whatever he wants to do. 657 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,310 Always together used to practice. 658 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:45,990 She never objected. 659 00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:49,250 Early mornings is to get up at 4:00 to do the practice. 660 00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:50,640 She never objected. 661 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,350 She would help. 662 00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:58,110 After marry, my progress on yoga is on account of her. 663 00:32:58,110 --> 00:33:00,760 I use her as a mirror. 664 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,030 They had a really good understanding of each other. 665 00:33:04,030 --> 00:33:07,140 He respected my mother as a householder, 666 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:10,140 looking after everything-- looking after the house, 667 00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:11,900 children, kitchen, everything. 668 00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:13,920 He used to take her for shopping. 669 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,270 You see, every Sunday, my father used to come from Bombay. 670 00:33:18,270 --> 00:33:22,170 And he used to reach Pune by 3:30. 671 00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:26,070 By 4:35, my father used to take my mother for shopping. 672 00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:30,390 Many times Sunday, he used to go to Dadar and bring betel 673 00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:34,350 leaves, because my mother used to like it. 674 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:38,100 On Sunday night, we used to go for for the walking. 675 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:42,150 And my mother, by walking, she used to make veeda for him. 676 00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:44,400 And they used to have-- on the road, also, 677 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,340 so she used to have on one finger, [INAUDIBLE] 678 00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:49,680 and another finger leaves. 679 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,290 We used to wash everything-- clean it, everything. 680 00:33:52,290 --> 00:33:55,350 And while going, they used to eat it. 681 00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:57,350 Never they fought with each other. 682 00:33:57,350 --> 00:34:00,010 Never there was a quarrel or fight, in front of us, 683 00:34:00,010 --> 00:34:01,700 especially. 684 00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:03,290 It never happened. 685 00:34:03,290 --> 00:34:07,200 It at all, they had spoken to each other so differently. 686 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,300 But there are not quarrel, as such. 687 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:10,860 No argument, as such. 688 00:34:10,860 --> 00:34:14,550 She was really wonderful lady-- very tolerant lady, 689 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:16,350 very helpful lady. 690 00:34:16,350 --> 00:34:19,830 And looking after everyone with kind heartedness. 691 00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:22,600 Both of us lived very happily for 30 years. 692 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,860 But after passing of my mother, 693 00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:27,570 he was both mother and father. 694 00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:30,420 He use to play with us, especially myself. 695 00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:36,320 I'm being the eldest daughter of Guruji, of my father. 696 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,400 I think I enjoyed a lot. 697 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,859 We used to play on his body when he used to do practices 698 00:34:43,859 --> 00:34:47,010 in different asanas, like Halasana. 699 00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:48,900 We use to play slide. 700 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,690 When he used to do Yoganidrasana, 701 00:34:52,690 --> 00:34:55,770 we used to play like see-saw on his body. 702 00:34:55,770 --> 00:35:00,570 You won't believe it, even at this-- as a three years child, 703 00:35:00,570 --> 00:35:07,250 I was always doing in front of him something like toppling. 704 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:09,510 Sometimes, I'd touch my toes. 705 00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:11,970 When he jumped, I will jump. 706 00:35:11,970 --> 00:35:14,400 Well, I was a classical dancer, 707 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,740 so I was supposed to give my first performance. 708 00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:25,070 So, in front of him, I used to do the practice all the time. 709 00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:30,250 So when he used to correct me during these yoga postures 710 00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:32,410 and all, he used to correct me. 711 00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:36,510 But even when I used to have a bath, 712 00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:38,390 he used to come after having a bath 713 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:39,970 and tell me that, Savita, come on. 714 00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:40,790 Do this. 715 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:44,850 So even during the bath, he was thinking about my-- 716 00:35:44,850 --> 00:35:49,060 how I had to improve my dance with their expressions, 717 00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:52,150 with the gestures, with the hand movements. 718 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,230 Hand movements, palm movements. 719 00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:56,670 He was graceful, actually. 720 00:35:56,670 --> 00:35:58,600 He wanted to learn, actually, dance. 721 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,060 He was thinking about actually becoming a classical 722 00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:05,890 dancer rather than practitioner of yoga at some stage in life. 723 00:36:05,890 --> 00:36:11,620 And that's why he once saw Uday Shankar in a ballet. 724 00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:13,040 And he was so fascinated. 725 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520 Then he said, why not find out the way 726 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,920 that I will teach him yoga, and he will teach me dance. 727 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,250 But Uday Shankar was not interested in yoga, it seems. 728 00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:23,190 So he could not continue. 729 00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:25,750 But music, he was very much interested. 730 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:28,630 Both my parents were interested in music to the point that 731 00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:33,520 the interest was in everybody's-- all the siblings. 732 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,470 And I used to play sitar for my another sister Sunita. 733 00:36:37,470 --> 00:36:40,270 Prashant and Vanita, they used to play violin. 734 00:36:40,270 --> 00:36:41,920 Savita danced. 735 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Geeta learned vocal music, then sitar, also. 736 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,300 So he used to teach us the technique, how to play-- 737 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:53,230 fingering work, wrist work, and everything he used to tell. 738 00:36:53,230 --> 00:36:57,280 And it used to make a lot of difference in the technique. 739 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,320 Renowned and famous and a great teacher as he was, 740 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,280 but when it came to normal family life, 741 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,470 he was just like any ordinary man-- like a very common man. 742 00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:10,030 And that was very endearing about him. 743 00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:13,630 In the house, as a father, he was very much lovable. 744 00:37:13,630 --> 00:37:15,800 At the same time, he was very strict. 745 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,220 He was not at all strict whatsoever to me. 746 00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:24,010 Actually, when his classes were going on and while he used 747 00:37:24,010 --> 00:37:27,170 to practice, it should be pin drop silence. 748 00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:29,650 We children never used to make any noise. 749 00:37:29,650 --> 00:37:31,970 He never used to like that. 750 00:37:31,970 --> 00:37:35,120 But when and children were playing, he used to practice. 751 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,000 They used to play cricket. 752 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,090 And he was also sometimes laughing, playing with them. 753 00:37:40,090 --> 00:37:41,530 Used to play with him a lot. 754 00:37:41,530 --> 00:37:42,700 And he used to practice as you go-- 755 00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:44,283 He would be practicing in the hallway. 756 00:37:44,283 --> 00:37:46,230 I used to go in the hall, trouble him. 757 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:48,230 If he's sleeping, stand on his legs or whatever. 758 00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:49,528 Just play with him. 759 00:37:49,528 --> 00:37:51,070 He had this thing he used to say-- 760 00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:52,750 OK, I'll make you fly like an aeroplane. 761 00:37:52,750 --> 00:37:57,280 So he used to lay down on his back and hold us like-- 762 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,950 so we are kids, right? 763 00:37:58,950 --> 00:38:01,660 So we are on-- so his legs up, and we 764 00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:04,280 are laying flat on his legs and holding his hands. 765 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,100 And he is making us fly like an aeroplane. 766 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,710 Sometimes in the morning, when we would be sleeping late 767 00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:11,860 and we would not wake up, suddenly we would be woken up, 768 00:38:11,860 --> 00:38:15,020 because he would be walking on our legs. 769 00:38:15,020 --> 00:38:15,820 So yes. 770 00:38:15,820 --> 00:38:18,310 Then he would just laugh, and he would walk off. 771 00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:19,720 He was like a child-- 772 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:23,260 full of life, full of fun, his eyes 773 00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:26,020 twinkling with mischief, with that mischievous 774 00:38:26,020 --> 00:38:27,790 smile on his face. 775 00:38:27,790 --> 00:38:29,700 He was ready for an adventure. 776 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:31,450 So there are times when we would have done 777 00:38:31,450 --> 00:38:32,790 some crazy things with him. 778 00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:37,150 And he would be ready for a game of cricket, or sit on a swing, 779 00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:39,880 or be ready to stand on his head in Sirsasana 780 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,290 on the edge of a cliff-- 781 00:38:41,290 --> 00:38:43,343 challenge us to do things which he did. 782 00:38:43,343 --> 00:38:45,010 So if we were at the top of the hill, 783 00:38:45,010 --> 00:38:48,100 he used to like to go to the edge and to sort of do 784 00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,030 the adventurous thing. 785 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:50,575 And he used to take us along. 786 00:38:50,575 --> 00:38:52,200 And our parents, my father, was scared. 787 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,033 Hey, don't go there. 788 00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:54,555 You'll fall down. 789 00:38:54,555 --> 00:38:57,640 So I remember once, we had been to the Nandi Hills. 790 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,130 And there is this place called Tipu Drop. 791 00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:03,410 So that's where Tipu Sultan, he used to push down his enemies. 792 00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:07,440 So there is like a very steep fall and there is a wall. 793 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,330 And the wall doesn't even like-- 794 00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:12,170 the comparable kind of a wall, it doesn't have a flat surface. 795 00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:14,920 It was a curved surface on top of it. 796 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,900 And so that does-- 797 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:18,550 so he got up on the wall. 798 00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:20,800 But there's a steep fall on the other side. 799 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,170 He's wearing his [INAUDIBLE] and was sort 800 00:39:23,170 --> 00:39:24,130 of walking like a king. 801 00:39:24,130 --> 00:39:26,410 And we are all scared, because it's very windy 802 00:39:26,410 --> 00:39:29,000 and the other side is totally steep. 803 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,800 And he's laughing. 804 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,258 So he's enjoying walking like that. 805 00:39:31,258 --> 00:39:32,758 And he's calling us-- you also come. 806 00:39:32,758 --> 00:39:33,670 You also climb. 807 00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:36,670 And we had once gone on a family picnic to Mulshi during 808 00:39:36,670 --> 00:39:38,420 the monsoon. 809 00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:40,313 So Guruji stopped the car and said-- 810 00:39:40,313 --> 00:39:41,230 he said, stop the car. 811 00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:42,860 This will be our picnic spot. 812 00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:44,470 So there was a mild waterfall. 813 00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:46,360 There was some slippery rocks. 814 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,600 And we all just sat there, opened up 815 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,210 what we'd got for eating, and laughing, playing in the water. 816 00:39:52,210 --> 00:39:53,290 And he called out to me. 817 00:39:53,290 --> 00:39:56,410 And he said, hey, do Sirsasana her. 818 00:39:56,410 --> 00:40:00,040 And I was so terrified. 819 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,510 He said, do. 820 00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:03,790 I said, I can not do, because I can not balance. 821 00:40:03,790 --> 00:40:04,810 He said, somebody will hold you. 822 00:40:04,810 --> 00:40:06,060 So what if you can no balance? 823 00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:07,460 Just do the pose. 824 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,850 And I am fighting with my grandfather at that time, 825 00:40:09,850 --> 00:40:11,470 trying to convince my grandfather 826 00:40:11,470 --> 00:40:14,840 that this granddaughter can balance in Sirsasana. 827 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,980 And that's when the teacher in him came out. 828 00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:20,930 And he said, if you don't do it now-- 829 00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:22,550 and he said, I will do it. 830 00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:26,810 So I got doubly terrified that it's so slippery, [INAUDIBLE] 831 00:40:26,810 --> 00:40:29,380 and, you know, water. 832 00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:31,660 But Guruji is saying, I will do it. 833 00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:33,820 If something happens, what will my family think? 834 00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:35,900 What will-- they'll point fingers at me. 835 00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:39,510 So the stress-- that stress made me do Sirsasana. 836 00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:41,670 And he taught me something in that Sirsasana, also. 837 00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:43,720 At home, this used to happen very often, 838 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:45,350 where suddenly he'd say, [INAUDIBLE] come here. 839 00:40:45,350 --> 00:40:46,150 Do this. 840 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:47,710 Let me show you something. 841 00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:49,420 And he's teaching us. 842 00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:50,480 So if you're doing-- 843 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,720 like say you're doing Urdva Dhanurasana. 844 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,625 So you'll fall and you come up. 845 00:40:54,625 --> 00:40:57,470 So he had this way of-- he used to just hold us out 846 00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:59,480 of the tip of the [INAUDIBLE] there. 847 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,970 And then, when we had to come up, he'd just do a small tug, 848 00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:04,743 and we were able to come up very fast. 849 00:41:04,743 --> 00:41:06,410 It's almost like he would just say, see, 850 00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:07,463 I have magic in my hand. 851 00:41:07,463 --> 00:41:09,130 I just pull, and you're able to come up. 852 00:41:09,130 --> 00:41:11,080 Even in the family lunch occasion, 853 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,290 sometimes after lunch he would say, hey, come do Sirsasana. 854 00:41:14,290 --> 00:41:15,880 And I would tell him, no, grandfather. 855 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,510 I just ate. 856 00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:17,520 And he said, nothing will happen. 857 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,320 Do. 858 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,520 So that kind of yoga anytime, laughter anytime, 859 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,600 teasing me anytime. 860 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,430 So that always was on. 861 00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:31,377 He used to be always excited like a child when his 862 00:41:31,377 --> 00:41:33,460 grandchildren and great grandchildren were around, 863 00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:34,842 especially. 864 00:41:34,842 --> 00:41:36,550 I couldn't resist taking Guruji's car. 865 00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:38,140 It was an Ambassador at that point in time. 866 00:41:38,140 --> 00:41:39,563 And I'd take it out, and he used-- 867 00:41:39,563 --> 00:41:41,200 I used to ask him, Tata, are you coming? 868 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,460 And he would not bat an eyelid. 869 00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:43,627 He would say, yes, let's go. 870 00:41:43,627 --> 00:41:44,740 Let's have fun. 871 00:41:44,740 --> 00:41:45,690 The man loved life. 872 00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:46,780 He was full of life. 873 00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:48,490 And that time, I didn't realize. 874 00:41:48,490 --> 00:41:49,690 I used to just take him. 875 00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:51,895 He would just wear his slippers and we would just 876 00:41:51,895 --> 00:41:53,728 go and come back after an hour, going around 877 00:41:53,728 --> 00:41:55,592 on hills around Pune. 878 00:41:55,592 --> 00:41:56,800 That point, I didn't realize. 879 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,170 At the age of 18 and 19, I didn't realize. 880 00:41:58,170 --> 00:41:59,003 Oh, I asked my Tata. 881 00:41:59,003 --> 00:41:59,803 He came. 882 00:41:59,803 --> 00:42:00,640 What's the big deal? 883 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,780 You take it for granted. 884 00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:04,800 Now, you realize the amount of trust he had in my driving-- 885 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,866 the amount implicit trust. 886 00:42:06,866 --> 00:42:09,510 The fact that he would take his time out. 887 00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:12,257 Nowadays, at the age of 38, and I work, 888 00:42:12,257 --> 00:42:13,590 and I help around the institute. 889 00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:15,870 And I have a kid and I know how busy it is. 890 00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:17,480 An hour is a big deal in my life. 891 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,400 But at that time, for Guruji to spend an hour of his life 892 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,990 every Saturday, Sunday, just so that I can have my fancy 893 00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:28,000 and drive around Pune, that's unbelievable. 894 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,520 Nowadays, we find it very difficult. One thing, 895 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,500 if we do it. 896 00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:33,590 Another thing, we say [INAUDIBLE] I can't come. 897 00:42:33,590 --> 00:42:39,250 But he used to practice, take the classes, come to the shops, 898 00:42:39,250 --> 00:42:42,680 and we used to dine together always. 899 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,800 Those Small Pleasures in life, you know? 900 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,320 That he used to be in one day and he 901 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,180 was to participate very enthusiastically. 902 00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:52,270 He used to watch television-- cricket matches. 903 00:42:52,270 --> 00:42:56,960 He used to come with us on long drives or picnics. 904 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,750 He used to play games with us. 905 00:42:59,750 --> 00:43:01,690 All games he used to enjoy-- 906 00:43:01,690 --> 00:43:04,970 football, hockey, cricket. 907 00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:06,550 And Gilli Danda, you know? 908 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:07,580 That Gilli Danda. 909 00:43:07,580 --> 00:43:11,880 He used to play with us when we were young. 910 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,230 He was always a sportsman. 911 00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:17,050 Basically, he was a sportsman in that way-- 912 00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:18,750 the yoga he took. 913 00:43:18,750 --> 00:43:23,690 Actually, nobody guided him to play any sports or anything. 914 00:43:23,690 --> 00:43:25,240 He was very fond of cricket. 915 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:28,690 That is why the radio came to our house to list 916 00:43:28,690 --> 00:43:30,490 to the commentaries. 917 00:43:30,490 --> 00:43:32,740 I remember it was the Champion's Trophy final, 918 00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:33,540 I guess-- 919 00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:35,590 India versus England. 920 00:43:35,590 --> 00:43:38,110 Last time, India won the Champion's Trophy in England. 921 00:43:38,110 --> 00:43:40,740 So we were watching it in Pune. 922 00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:42,328 And everybody had gone to sleep. 923 00:43:42,328 --> 00:43:43,620 We were the only peoples awake. 924 00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:46,470 The match went on til 12:30 or 1:00 our time. 925 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:49,040 India won the match and we were watching that. 926 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,570 Not only cricket-- football, especially. 927 00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:53,820 Local football is something we used to watch together. 928 00:43:53,820 --> 00:43:56,220 And the last finals one month ago 929 00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:59,070 was the first finals that in around-- 930 00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:01,890 after five straight finals, I did not watch with Guruji-- 931 00:44:01,890 --> 00:44:03,120 '98 to 2018. 932 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:10,140 So it was a little emotional watching the match alone. 933 00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:12,690 Watching Investigative detective shows on TV 934 00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:16,200 on a Friday or Saturday night, accompanied by cold coffee 935 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,670 is something he used to love. 936 00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:21,300 Every Friday night, it's going to be a cold coffee 937 00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:22,770 night. 938 00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:28,110 So myself and Hadid, my husband, we used to make cold coffee. 939 00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:30,990 We give him, and he would say, oh, it's too strong, 940 00:44:30,990 --> 00:44:33,125 Da, It's too light, Da. 941 00:44:33,125 --> 00:44:34,000 Little less sugar. 942 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,220 Little more sugar. 943 00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:37,380 The blend is a little less. 944 00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:38,380 You should do this more. 945 00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:39,963 You should take this kind of a vessel. 946 00:44:39,963 --> 00:44:41,350 Many multiple instructions. 947 00:44:41,350 --> 00:44:44,220 He had this thing about creating your dishes. 948 00:44:44,220 --> 00:44:46,410 Put honey in this, and mix this with that, 949 00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:47,510 and see how it tastes. 950 00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:49,320 So that was a lot of fun. 951 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,910 Simple things like festivals he used to enjoy a lot. 952 00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:54,590 So we used to prepare this [INAUDIBLE],, 953 00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:56,970 like the Diwali snacks. 954 00:44:56,970 --> 00:44:58,460 He was to enjoy all of it. 955 00:44:58,460 --> 00:44:59,610 He used to eat heartily. 956 00:44:59,610 --> 00:45:01,890 He used to make us also eat heartily. 957 00:45:01,890 --> 00:45:04,410 At the end of the course, there would always be a big 958 00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:06,970 meal essentially sponsored by the family. 959 00:45:06,970 --> 00:45:09,390 All my aunts, my mother, all of them would cook. 960 00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:10,670 We didn't have any kitchen. 961 00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:15,960 The highlight would be that there is some fruit salad. 962 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,660 Fruit salad was like an specialty. 963 00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:22,050 And we'd all sit in the hall downstairs. 964 00:45:22,050 --> 00:45:24,360 And Guruji would insist on us serving everybody. 965 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,570 He would make sure everybody took a second helping, 966 00:45:26,570 --> 00:45:27,370 third helping. 967 00:45:27,370 --> 00:45:30,270 And I remember that he gave me so many jalebis to eat. 968 00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:31,980 I kept putting them on my plate. 969 00:45:31,980 --> 00:45:34,020 I really had a hard time finishing them. 970 00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:36,900 But because Guruji had given them, it was like Prasad, 971 00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:38,460 you have to eat them. 972 00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:40,230 So I really ate all of it. 973 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:43,680 And it was-- my stomach was probably also hurting. 974 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,940 So he smiled. 975 00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:47,080 I told him that's too much for me. 976 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,390 So he just smiled and said, go out to the hall 977 00:45:49,390 --> 00:45:51,670 and do some [INAUDIBLE],, and everything will be fine. 978 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:52,470 And I did it. 979 00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:54,870 And believe me, actually, it helped. 980 00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:57,490 It really helped me digest all those jalebis. 981 00:45:57,490 --> 00:46:00,780 So in him I found this father figure-- very caring, 982 00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:04,740 very generous, very, very warm-- 983 00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:06,660 full of love, full of affection. 984 00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:10,350 So I was amazed to see how this man could be at the same 985 00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:14,470 time a guru, a yogi, a [INAUDIBLE],, 986 00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:17,640 a father for his children, a grandfather for his 987 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,360 grandchildren, a teacher for his students, 988 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,490 and an amazing friend. 989 00:46:23,490 --> 00:46:25,812 He was my very good friend. 990 00:46:25,812 --> 00:46:27,570 He was my guru. 991 00:46:27,570 --> 00:46:28,790 He was my everything. 992 00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:31,550 He was for me like father. 993 00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:38,050 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 994 00:46:38,050 --> 00:46:43,380 She's like my daughter, so you have to look after her. 995 00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:50,760 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 996 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520 You felt such a deep connection with him. 997 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,320 It was surprising how many people 998 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,610 said this over and over again. 999 00:46:57,610 --> 00:47:00,170 I don't know anybody else who connects with people like that. 1000 00:47:00,170 --> 00:47:03,210 I've never met anyone who has that ability. 1001 00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:11,520 Because one of hi main quality is that he was not 1002 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,680 at all selfish. 1003 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,550 Not at all. 1004 00:47:17,550 --> 00:47:19,290 What's not to like about him? 1005 00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:22,170 I really don't understand. 1006 00:47:22,170 --> 00:47:24,150 He focused things very easily. 1007 00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:26,660 The moment you fight with him, the next moment he just 1008 00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:27,460 forgets. 1009 00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:32,240 We had a heated argument, myself and Guruji, 1010 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:37,010 regarding our trust activities only. 1011 00:47:37,010 --> 00:47:40,180 I was travelling from Bellur and he called me over phone. 1012 00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:42,060 I was in the car only. 1013 00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:45,760 We both had a heated argument over the phone. 1014 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,480 And in the family, everybody was [INAUDIBLE] Pone 1015 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,390 what will happen? 1016 00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:54,350 [INAUDIBLE] argue over phone itself. 1017 00:47:54,350 --> 00:47:57,460 Then after five minutes, he had called me 1018 00:47:57,460 --> 00:48:00,150 again laughing and enjoying. 1019 00:48:00,150 --> 00:48:02,130 I have not seen anybody like that. 1020 00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:03,997 My ego comes into my way. 1021 00:48:03,997 --> 00:48:05,580 I tell you, you fought with me, right? 1022 00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:07,942 So let me be angry for some time, 1023 00:48:07,942 --> 00:48:09,900 and I'm not going to talk to you for some time. 1024 00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:11,100 Let me be. 1025 00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,340 It's not-- it's never the same with him. 1026 00:48:13,340 --> 00:48:15,230 Even in his most angry moments, 1027 00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:17,800 he would waggle his eyebrows a little bit at you, 1028 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,620 and there would be that twinkle in his eye, 1029 00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:22,308 even while he was reprimanding. 1030 00:48:22,308 --> 00:48:24,600 It can happen even when he's calling you in a class, 1031 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,820 or it can happen when he's pulling your leg. 1032 00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:29,970 But, he used to have a twinkle on the side of his glance. 1033 00:48:29,970 --> 00:48:30,790 And he was just-- 1034 00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:33,420 and used to smile a certain way. 1035 00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:37,020 He saw one of his students, Dr. [INAUDIBLE],, 1036 00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:38,850 sort of walk into the hallway. 1037 00:48:38,850 --> 00:48:40,690 Then he said, [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH].. 1038 00:48:40,690 --> 00:48:43,030 That means, I'm going to have some fun. 1039 00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:46,590 So now, [INAUDIBLE] is a student of Guruji. 1040 00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:49,880 And he take everything that Guruji says seriously. 1041 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,170 So Guruji called him and says, oh, 1042 00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:54,740 do you know that you are leaning on one side? 1043 00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:57,300 So whether he was leaning or not, 1044 00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:59,310 he thought that if Guruji's saying something, 1045 00:48:59,310 --> 00:49:00,550 then it must be true. 1046 00:49:00,550 --> 00:49:01,790 So he says, yes sir. 1047 00:49:01,790 --> 00:49:03,300 So he says, OK, you know why? 1048 00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:07,030 He says, no sir, expecting Guruji to tell him 1049 00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:08,580 how he was-- his weight was going 1050 00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:10,580 on to one side or something like that. 1051 00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:12,640 And then he says, see when you were shaving, 1052 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,750 you have cut your mustache at one end. 1053 00:49:14,750 --> 00:49:17,620 It is cut more than the other, and that's why you are leaning. 1054 00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:20,950 I can guarantee you that his sense of humor was 1055 00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:22,100 unbelievable. 1056 00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:25,510 His zest for life, living life to the fullest, 1057 00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:29,140 was unbelievable and you can see some good photographers 1058 00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:30,300 have captured that-- 1059 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:31,270 the sheer openness. 1060 00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:33,210 He's just in the moment laughing. 1061 00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:35,260 Guruji's laugh was beautiful. 1062 00:49:35,260 --> 00:49:36,100 It was like a child. 1063 00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:37,840 He would love wholeheartedly. 1064 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,690 No doubt. 1065 00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:41,170 He used to crack jokes, play pranks. 1066 00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:42,970 And those jokes were cutting. 1067 00:49:42,970 --> 00:49:44,570 They were timely, they're apt. 1068 00:49:44,570 --> 00:49:46,290 [INAUDIBLE] was taking a class, 1069 00:49:46,290 --> 00:49:50,480 and what we did was we had like a prank planned, essentially. 1070 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,600 So in the beginning of the class, there were-- 1071 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,920 prayers were there, looking on. 1072 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,030 All the prayers-- probably, we're saying the prayers. 1073 00:49:56,030 --> 00:49:57,160 And while he was doing that, one of us 1074 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,500 just went and kept a water balloon behind him. 1075 00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:01,728 And we thought he'd get up and he'd get all wet, 1076 00:50:01,728 --> 00:50:02,770 and it'd be a lot of fun. 1077 00:50:02,770 --> 00:50:05,830 For some reason, that was a very funny thing at the time. 1078 00:50:05,830 --> 00:50:07,840 And he didn't. 1079 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,230 He just didn't move far enough or whatever. 1080 00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:11,680 The balloon was in its place. 1081 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,930 And we hadn't notice Guruji had just entered the class 1082 00:50:13,930 --> 00:50:14,740 and he had seen this. 1083 00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:15,500 We had no idea. 1084 00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:16,370 We were sitting in the class. 1085 00:50:16,370 --> 00:50:17,770 We were saying our prayers. 1086 00:50:17,770 --> 00:50:20,083 And he saw that the prank hadn't worked, 1087 00:50:20,083 --> 00:50:21,500 so he walked all the way to Pandu. 1088 00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:22,917 He said, hey, Pandu, what is this? 1089 00:50:22,917 --> 00:50:24,300 And he pushed him back. 1090 00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:26,260 And that was hilarious. 1091 00:50:26,260 --> 00:50:29,640 And I remembered Guruji on his veranda, 1092 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,930 on his own little terrace. 1093 00:50:31,930 --> 00:50:35,630 And it was [INAUDIBLE]. 1094 00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:39,780 And he was waiting for the kids to come out of the class. 1095 00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:41,320 So the kids come out of the class, 1096 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,860 and Guruji threw the water and drenched them. 1097 00:50:44,860 --> 00:50:47,090 And the shrieks and laughter. 1098 00:50:47,090 --> 00:50:51,240 And Guruji was laughing, like real laughter. 1099 00:50:53,770 --> 00:50:59,290 So that was one of the first kind of interaction, 1100 00:50:59,290 --> 00:51:04,090 seeing him with kids. 1101 00:51:04,090 --> 00:51:07,390 He could gel with people of any age. 1102 00:51:07,390 --> 00:51:12,450 So with my baby, or with any baby, he would play with them, 1103 00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:14,995 bring a smile on their faces, or make them-- 1104 00:51:14,995 --> 00:51:18,570 even when the baby couldn't speak, the baby would respond. 1105 00:51:18,570 --> 00:51:20,710 In his hands [INAUDIBLE]. 1106 00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:22,780 Yeah. 1107 00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:25,030 He held you as a wee baby. 1108 00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:26,750 And he just picked [INAUDIBLE] up. 1109 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:29,830 And his hands were so sure and so steady. 1110 00:51:29,830 --> 00:51:33,640 And he looked into the small baby's face, 1111 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,380 and he just said, yes sir, you have seen many lifetimes. 1112 00:51:38,380 --> 00:51:42,440 And which one are you in now? 1113 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,780 When I look back at photographs of Guruji with 1114 00:51:44,780 --> 00:51:48,900 my daughter, it does something to me. 1115 00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:49,700 I don't know. 1116 00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:51,408 I can't pick think of a word to say what. 1117 00:51:53,890 --> 00:51:55,870 So I still remember the day that I walked home 1118 00:51:55,870 --> 00:51:58,220 with the baby in my hand from the hospital. 1119 00:51:58,220 --> 00:52:01,210 And Guruji was sitting, and he was the first person 1120 00:52:01,210 --> 00:52:04,660 I handed out the baby to. 1121 00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:09,240 And Guruji fondling the baby, still I vividly remember that. 1122 00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,370 So after she grew up a little bit, 1123 00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:14,710 my father would bring her every day 1124 00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:18,010 to the institute, where Guruji was either in the class 1125 00:52:18,010 --> 00:52:19,520 or in the practice. 1126 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:25,640 So Guruji would very playfully would love, cajole her, or put 1127 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,930 her on some prop and make her slide down the prop. 1128 00:52:28,930 --> 00:52:31,450 As my children grew up, I think they grew up to think 1129 00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:33,160 they had three grandfathers-- 1130 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,990 two were their biological grandfathers, 1131 00:52:34,990 --> 00:52:37,870 and the other was Guruji, who they would look forward 1132 00:52:37,870 --> 00:52:40,450 to coming and meeting on occasions. 1133 00:52:40,450 --> 00:52:44,680 And you know, he would be kind of fooling around with them, 1134 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,170 chuckling away, asking them little questions. 1135 00:52:47,170 --> 00:52:49,360 So they were very happy to interact with him, 1136 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,180 and they didn't think that he was a big man, or even 1137 00:52:52,180 --> 00:52:53,260 a grown man. 1138 00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:56,140 I remember times when my children would put their-- 1139 00:52:56,140 --> 00:52:58,660 my son, he would put his arms around his neck and swing 1140 00:52:58,660 --> 00:52:59,470 on his back. 1141 00:52:59,470 --> 00:53:02,200 I remember, I have memories of playing with him outside 1142 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,590 in the courtyard of the Institute. 1143 00:53:05,590 --> 00:53:08,120 And we'd be jumping on him, and he'd play with us. 1144 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,510 And I remember him smiling and laughing. 1145 00:53:10,510 --> 00:53:14,320 Guruji, as far as I remember, was the most lovable older man 1146 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,880 that we knew. 1147 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,720 When I was 11 and I had joined the institute 1148 00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:23,950 in the children's class, which my mom, Kathy, 1149 00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:25,930 was taking and teaching with [INAUDIBLE].. 1150 00:53:25,930 --> 00:53:28,347 So this was essentially the first children's class that 1151 00:53:28,347 --> 00:53:29,290 they had in Pune. 1152 00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:31,610 And Guruji would come into our classes on a Sunday 1153 00:53:31,610 --> 00:53:32,410 morning. 1154 00:53:32,410 --> 00:53:34,940 I think he enjoyed being in the children's classes. 1155 00:53:34,940 --> 00:53:37,270 We didn't recognize him to be our guru at the time. 1156 00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:40,900 He was just someone who was fun, who would come into our class 1157 00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:42,560 and bounce us about. 1158 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,730 We used to often be bribed with five star chocolates 1159 00:53:45,730 --> 00:53:47,200 to do certain asanas. 1160 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,420 And he said, you think you're a five star, huh? 1161 00:53:49,420 --> 00:53:51,420 You think you're a five star. 1162 00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:53,140 And he gave me this chocolate. 1163 00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:57,040 So I think we had a very relaxed relationship with Guruji 1164 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,090 in those days. 1165 00:53:58,090 --> 00:53:59,485 It was so much fun. 1166 00:53:59,485 --> 00:54:02,245 Different, because Guruji was different with the kids. 1167 00:54:02,245 --> 00:54:06,830 And there was a lot of laughter and nonsense. 1168 00:54:06,830 --> 00:54:10,557 And also, Guruji knew that if you-- 1169 00:54:10,557 --> 00:54:12,140 children, there's a different mindset. 1170 00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:14,590 You can't [INAUDIBLE] to stay in a pose for 10 minutes. 1171 00:54:14,590 --> 00:54:15,923 They're just going to get bored. 1172 00:54:15,923 --> 00:54:17,820 So he devised a new set of-- 1173 00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:19,020 and a new way of teaching. 1174 00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:21,670 It was more dynamic, more active, 1175 00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:25,570 to keep kids like us more interested and not get bored. 1176 00:54:25,570 --> 00:54:27,640 We had other teachers taking the classes, 1177 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,270 but when Guruji used to come, it was always a special day. 1178 00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:33,940 And often, when he used to come, he didn't really 1179 00:54:33,940 --> 00:54:35,150 announce his coming. 1180 00:54:35,150 --> 00:54:37,990 He'd sort of sneakily come in the back, hiding. 1181 00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:42,120 And slowly, some boy would see that Guruji is in the class, 1182 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,965 in the hall. 1183 00:54:42,965 --> 00:54:44,790 And slowly, the whisper used to go around. 1184 00:54:44,790 --> 00:54:45,246 Guruji's here. 1185 00:54:45,246 --> 00:54:46,160 Guruji's here. 1186 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,845 And suddenly, everybody's poses are 100 times better, 1187 00:54:48,845 --> 00:54:50,470 because they all know that he is there. 1188 00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:52,595 Oftentimes, even if somebody else was taking it, 1189 00:54:52,595 --> 00:54:56,150 if Pandu was taking it, he would just come in, halfway through 1190 00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:58,550 the class, and be standing in the corner. 1191 00:54:58,550 --> 00:55:01,390 And as soon as he entered the class, all of us 1192 00:55:01,390 --> 00:55:03,292 knew that, OK, now this was going to be fun. 1193 00:55:03,292 --> 00:55:05,125 As soon as he would take over-- immediately, 1194 00:55:05,125 --> 00:55:06,830 he would take over. 1195 00:55:06,830 --> 00:55:08,330 He would let Pandu or whoever teach, 1196 00:55:08,330 --> 00:55:10,840 and he would say, hey, that's not the way to teach. 1197 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,007 That's not the way to do it. 1198 00:55:12,007 --> 00:55:12,910 Come, I'll show you. 1199 00:55:12,910 --> 00:55:15,460 And then onwards, it was tremendous fun. 1200 00:55:15,460 --> 00:55:18,543 Very, very-- he would be two steps ahead of us. 1201 00:55:18,543 --> 00:55:19,960 He would ask-- he would do things. 1202 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,960 He would say names of asanas, or he would do it, 1203 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,140 and we had to follow. 1204 00:55:23,140 --> 00:55:26,080 And it was extremely fast and a lot of fun. 1205 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,000 We would always enjoy these classes. 1206 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,800 I give full credit to Guruji for highlighting that fact, 1207 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,400 that teaching is almost-- 1208 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:42,160 it's a science, and one needs to have many tools, many methods, 1209 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,210 to be able to communicate with people who are all different. 1210 00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:50,800 The thing that Guruji always taught us is not to teach 1211 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,000 anything that you don't understand. 1212 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,340 And so, one of the things that he gave us, as well as practice 1213 00:55:57,340 --> 00:56:00,640 for just our life, is practice for our teaching. 1214 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,300 When I was not really a teacher, 1215 00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:10,600 my teacher in San Diego had asked me to substitute classes 1216 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,010 for another teacher who was pregnant and not feeling well 1217 00:56:14,010 --> 00:56:14,810 at that time. 1218 00:56:14,810 --> 00:56:19,100 So I had taught two classes, maybe. 1219 00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:21,310 And it was at this time that Guruji 1220 00:56:21,310 --> 00:56:23,990 was in San Diego after a convention. 1221 00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:27,220 And he came to our center. 1222 00:56:27,220 --> 00:56:32,770 And it was so funny, because he asked all of the teachers 1223 00:56:32,770 --> 00:56:35,500 to teach in front of him. 1224 00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:39,490 And if you have any memory of teaching in front of Guruji, 1225 00:56:39,490 --> 00:56:43,160 sometimes you could get four or five words out 1226 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,280 before he'd stop you and make a correction. 1227 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,250 So he went through all the teachers in San Diego. 1228 00:56:51,250 --> 00:56:53,210 And he put his hands on his hips, 1229 00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:55,070 and he turned to my teacher and said, 1230 00:56:55,070 --> 00:56:57,090 don't you have anybody else? 1231 00:56:57,090 --> 00:57:00,333 And my teacher turned to me and said, well, there's Mary. 1232 00:57:02,980 --> 00:57:05,320 So Guruji said, teach. 1233 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,560 Teach something. 1234 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,880 So I taught [INAUDIBLE] asana. 1235 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,070 And the students, they weren't putting their heels 1236 00:57:13,070 --> 00:57:15,015 down on their back leg. 1237 00:57:15,015 --> 00:57:17,590 I'm saying, put your heel down. 1238 00:57:17,590 --> 00:57:18,950 Press your heel down. 1239 00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:20,750 Stamp your heel down. 1240 00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:23,300 And inside my head, I was saying, please, please, please 1241 00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:27,290 put your heel down, because Guruji is watching me. 1242 00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:31,310 And Guruji interrupted and said, do you 1243 00:57:31,310 --> 00:57:34,340 want me to tell you how to tell them? 1244 00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:35,240 I said, yes sir. 1245 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,720 Thank god. 1246 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,570 And he turned around very quickly, 1247 00:57:38,570 --> 00:57:42,780 and he said, unlatch your heel to the floor. 1248 00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:46,920 There was a thud in the room as 50 heels went down 1249 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:47,720 to the floor. 1250 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,280 And he turned to me and he said, [INAUDIBLE].. 1251 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,970 When Patricia Walden and I went to Pune to ask Guruji what 1252 00:57:55,970 --> 00:57:58,670 we're going to do when he is no more, he said, 1253 00:57:58,670 --> 00:58:03,800 when you practice, practice with honesty and integrity. 1254 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,290 And when you're teaching, observe your students. 1255 00:58:07,290 --> 00:58:09,590 The way I teach, what I teach, 1256 00:58:09,590 --> 00:58:13,500 how I teach is directly influenced by Guruji. 1257 00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:19,130 Guruji really gave us a way of communicating the subject 1258 00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:20,060 to other people. 1259 00:58:20,060 --> 00:58:25,190 He had such a profound effect on our senior teachers, 1260 00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:29,400 who since the early '70s trained with him. 1261 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,580 He was not able to come to South Africa because 1262 00:58:31,580 --> 00:58:34,280 of political reasons, but they went 1263 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,780 to Mauritius to train with him, to Swaziland to train with him. 1264 00:58:38,780 --> 00:58:41,810 And they had such a close relationship with him. 1265 00:58:41,810 --> 00:58:44,210 To watch him teach from country to country, 1266 00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:47,000 which I was lucky enough to do several times. 1267 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,480 He would even change his very mode or perspective 1268 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,120 to reach the audience that was in front of him. 1269 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,240 Not so much to draw them to him, because he was belief, 1270 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,790 I honestly think, was not in his own abilities, 1271 00:58:59,790 --> 00:59:02,210 but in his belief in the subject which 1272 00:59:02,210 --> 00:59:04,400 he had given his life over to. 1273 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,160 Even if you don't know about Iyengar Yoga, 1274 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,670 you're doing Iyengar Yoga, because it has spread around 1275 00:59:10,670 --> 00:59:12,205 the world everywhere. 1276 00:59:12,205 --> 00:59:14,720 And no matter where I go and who teaches, 1277 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,530 I find that the Iyengar method is so rooted in tradition 1278 00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:23,250 and discipline that instructions remain constant and simple 1279 00:59:23,250 --> 00:59:24,430 and precise. 1280 00:59:24,430 --> 00:59:26,700 I remember a time we're in a sort tiny little-- 1281 00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,780 a small town in North Carolina, in the deep south in America. 1282 00:59:29,780 --> 00:59:31,560 And I happened to know a Iyengar studio-- 1283 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,920 a studio with one of the teachers in Iyengar's class, 1284 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,900 and I went to it. 1285 00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:37,495 And it was the same thing. 1286 00:59:37,495 --> 00:59:39,620 You know, same thing you do in Pune, same thing you 1287 00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:41,550 do in London, same thing you do in Cambridge. 1288 00:59:41,550 --> 00:59:42,500 It's everywhere. 1289 00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:45,960 It's like, in England when I go, it's in America. 1290 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,420 I know studios that I can just walk in, 1291 00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:51,260 and it feels like home. 1292 00:59:51,260 --> 00:59:52,470 We are worldwide. 1293 00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:56,270 We are renowned for the healing capacity of Iyengar Yoga. 1294 00:59:56,270 --> 00:59:59,030 So even in Germany, where I am from, 1295 00:59:59,030 --> 01:00:02,300 there are two big university hospitals. 1296 01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:06,160 They just do research work on yoga. 1297 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:19,170 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1298 01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:24,320 Six years ago, I was able to open my own Iyengar Yoga center 1299 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,200 in San Marcos, the community where I live. 1300 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,890 I opened the Iyengar Yoga institutes of Birmingham 1301 01:00:30,890 --> 01:00:32,730 in 2002. 1302 01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:38,990 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1303 01:00:38,990 --> 01:00:44,990 In 1988, the Japanese Iyengar Yoga Association was found with 1304 01:00:44,990 --> 01:00:46,940 only seven members. 1305 01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:51,850 Now, there are about 120 Iyengar Yoga teachers in Japan. 1306 01:00:51,850 --> 01:01:02,400 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1307 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:17,620 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1308 01:01:17,620 --> 01:01:21,290 Our studio was dedicated to Iyengar Yoga. 1309 01:01:21,290 --> 01:01:26,430 And we started building up quite a few student base. 1310 01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:29,130 And that little studio became a hub 1311 01:01:29,130 --> 01:01:30,765 of Iyengar Yoga [INAUDIBLE]. 1312 01:01:30,765 --> 01:01:34,860 The yoga community in Glasgow is growing all the time. 1313 01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:37,090 So we now have some new teachers. 1314 01:01:37,090 --> 01:01:40,310 We now have a far bigger pool of people 1315 01:01:40,310 --> 01:01:41,852 who are studding all the time there. 1316 01:01:41,852 --> 01:01:45,530 I don't know that Guruji intended to unite the world 1317 01:01:45,530 --> 01:01:48,800 in that way when she started practicing as a young boy. 1318 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,660 But when you practice Iyengar Yoga, 1319 01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:54,250 you never feel lonely or lost, because you know that wherever 1320 01:01:54,250 --> 01:01:56,350 you go, there is a Iyengar Yoga teacher and other 1321 01:01:56,350 --> 01:01:57,820 practitioners. 1322 01:01:57,820 --> 01:02:01,480 And you meet people who share the same values 1323 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,450 and have the same views. 1324 01:02:03,450 --> 01:02:07,340 I feel Guruji's art has brought people together, 1325 01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:10,790 not only in Birmingham, but all over the world. 1326 01:02:10,790 --> 01:02:15,640 And sometimes Guruji calls us my children in the field 1327 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,320 of yoga. 1328 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,510 So I know I have beautiful sisters and brothers 1329 01:02:22,510 --> 01:02:24,190 all around the world. 1330 01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:29,666 Everyone is like a branch and flower and leaves from all over 1331 01:02:29,666 --> 01:02:37,330 the world to spread Iyengar Yoga knowledge all over the world. 1332 01:02:37,330 --> 01:02:42,210 And another joy has been to be part of that community, 1333 01:02:42,210 --> 01:02:45,220 to be part of these like minded people-- 1334 01:02:45,220 --> 01:02:47,580 what we share in common. 1335 01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:51,510 And the complete sense of devastation and loss 1336 01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:56,460 that community felt when Mr. Iyengar died, when Guruji died, 1337 01:02:56,460 --> 01:03:00,130 was just so overwhelming. 1338 01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:06,680 It was almost curious that somebody who lived so far away 1339 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,510 could have that influence in people. 1340 01:03:08,510 --> 01:03:12,040 And everyone felt entirely bereft. 1341 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,380 He has helped millions of people, 1342 01:03:15,380 --> 01:03:18,020 and people who have different lives. 1343 01:03:18,020 --> 01:03:20,900 He was open to expand and pass his knowledge 1344 01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:21,740 to everybody. 1345 01:03:21,740 --> 01:03:24,805 He didn't make difference at all who you were. 1346 01:03:24,805 --> 01:03:26,230 He love everybody. 1347 01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:31,660 He never had any discrimination about anybody's 1348 01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:34,730 social background, economic background. 1349 01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:39,410 And then he said, I welcome every student of yoga. 1350 01:03:39,410 --> 01:03:42,320 And I feel that every person needs 1351 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,390 to make a beginning somewhere. 1352 01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:49,100 Guruji's yoga has taught me how to be-- 1353 01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:53,220 how to sit, how just stand, how to walk, 1354 01:03:53,220 --> 01:04:00,740 how to run, how to eat, how to sleep, how to observe, 1355 01:04:00,740 --> 01:04:02,330 and how to absorb. 1356 01:04:02,330 --> 01:04:06,020 It satisfies me creatively-- the joy of exploring, 1357 01:04:06,020 --> 01:04:09,240 and learning new things, and trying new things. 1358 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,510 And the reason I can continue to be a photographer, 1359 01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:14,980 carry those heavy backpacks, and movement is because I do 1360 01:04:14,980 --> 01:04:15,910 Iyengar Yoga. 1361 01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:27,530 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1362 01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:31,940 It was due to Guruji that I was able to walk. 1363 01:04:31,940 --> 01:04:33,530 It was to due to Guruji that I was 1364 01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:39,930 able to put off having back surgery for over 40 years. 1365 01:04:39,930 --> 01:04:42,220 I'm a different person. 1366 01:04:42,220 --> 01:04:44,180 I got new legs. 1367 01:04:44,180 --> 01:04:46,040 I got new spine. 1368 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:51,200 Through doing this forward bending, headband wrapping, 1369 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,490 slow Iyengar Yoga rehabilitation process, 1370 01:04:55,490 --> 01:04:58,250 we've managed to bring these headaches under control within 1371 01:04:58,250 --> 01:05:03,420 the first two months of my two brain surgeries. 1372 01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:07,290 Today, Iyengar Yoga has become indispensable for me. 1373 01:05:07,290 --> 01:05:12,920 With my medical limitations, I have learned to live happily. 1374 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,010 This was a type of yoga that I would be able to do 1375 01:05:16,010 --> 01:05:17,710 into my golden years. 1376 01:05:17,710 --> 01:05:20,510 And since my golden years are right around the corner, 1377 01:05:20,510 --> 01:05:23,750 and here I am, still doing Iyengar Yoga. 1378 01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:27,590 At the ripe age of 60, I am doing Sirsasana and-- 1379 01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:30,530 I don't know-- six minutes every day for a long time. 1380 01:05:30,530 --> 01:05:36,290 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1381 01:05:36,290 --> 01:05:41,300 And if I stick to what he has taught and what he's developed, 1382 01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:42,980 I will find my way. 1383 01:05:42,980 --> 01:05:46,100 So whatever I am today, or whatever I am doing, 1384 01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,430 it's only and only because of Guruji. 1385 01:05:48,430 --> 01:05:53,570 So about his legacy, is what one is that is his legacy. 1386 01:05:53,570 --> 01:05:56,340 What he has made us, that is his legacy. 1387 01:05:56,340 --> 01:05:58,600 And that is what we are carrying with us. 1388 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,110 And he said, as long as mine students can give 1389 01:06:03,110 --> 01:06:07,220 their students a taste of the sensitivity alertness that 1390 01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:08,990 I'm giving you all-- 1391 01:06:08,990 --> 01:06:12,320 as long as that's there, this will live on. 1392 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,345 29 years later, I'm grandmother, 1393 01:06:14,345 --> 01:06:17,750 and I'm still practicing and learning from the teachings 1394 01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:19,850 of this extraordinary man. 1395 01:06:19,850 --> 01:06:23,780 His legacy lives on through the generations of my family. 1396 01:06:23,780 --> 01:06:37,490 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1397 01:06:37,490 --> 01:06:41,560 So he has left behind us a boon for humanity with all his 1398 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:46,850 research and application in the field of yoga to heal the human 1399 01:06:46,850 --> 01:06:48,220 body and mind. 1400 01:06:48,220 --> 01:06:51,140 So I think it is up to us to use it now. 1401 01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:54,110 We also have the responsibility to keep 1402 01:06:54,110 --> 01:06:57,650 on spreading his teaching and the values he wanted 1403 01:06:57,650 --> 01:06:58,640 to promote. 1404 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,800 And to help other people to understand how important it is 1405 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:08,270 to make the proper asanas with guidance, with understanding, 1406 01:07:08,270 --> 01:07:09,680 with alignment. 1407 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,990 His fantastic success lies now for us as a foundation 1408 01:07:14,990 --> 01:07:17,040 to build upon further. 1409 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,240 So we must pass on to the next generation for them 1410 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,790 to continue Guruji's legacy. 1411 01:07:23,790 --> 01:07:26,300 And that's why we continue to teach. 1412 01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:27,770 That's why we want to give. 1413 01:07:27,770 --> 01:07:32,690 We want to help people the way he helped, the way he taught. 1414 01:07:32,690 --> 01:07:34,880 Because this is what we're supposed to do-- 1415 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,770 to continue, to let go, show. 1416 01:07:38,770 --> 01:07:41,720 Plant the seed so that everybody can 1417 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,960 see that Guruji is not dead. 1418 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,000 Guruji is only, as he said-- 1419 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,650 I'm only going to change my clothes. 1420 01:07:49,650 --> 01:07:51,960 I am not going anywhere. 1421 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,910 I'm only going to change my clothes. 1422 01:07:54,910 --> 01:08:00,050 Every aspect of my life is linked with him-- 1423 01:08:00,050 --> 01:08:05,540 whether I sleep, whether I eat, whether I practice yoga. 1424 01:08:05,540 --> 01:08:07,760 Everywhere, Guruji is with me. 1425 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,950 So I am lucky. 1426 01:08:09,950 --> 01:08:13,370 I was very lucky to have been in and around him-- 1427 01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:16,970 not just in the institute during the classes or during practice, 1428 01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:22,250 but also at home, because each-- now that he's no longer there, 1429 01:08:22,250 --> 01:08:32,410 each memory that I have of him is a valuable thing for me now. 1430 01:08:32,410 --> 01:08:33,830 Guruji is never far from us. 1431 01:08:33,830 --> 01:08:35,779 He's certainly never far from me. 1432 01:08:35,779 --> 01:08:38,210 He's always there on my mat. 1433 01:08:38,210 --> 01:08:42,649 And those lessons and the tools that he gave 1434 01:08:42,649 --> 01:08:43,850 continue to evolve. 1435 01:08:43,850 --> 01:08:46,520 And for that, I'm eternally grateful. 1436 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:51,200 And he really tuned in and made us understand that his 1437 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,660 method wasn't his method-- 1438 01:08:53,660 --> 01:08:56,300 that he was teaching yoga, and that we 1439 01:08:56,300 --> 01:08:58,430 were calling it Iyengar Yoga. 1440 01:08:58,430 --> 01:09:01,130 And that it was something greater than him. 1441 01:09:01,130 --> 01:09:03,260 And then what he taught us is something so much 1442 01:09:03,260 --> 01:09:05,029 greater than all of us. 1443 01:09:05,029 --> 01:09:12,529 We can practice, and go on in our life, 1444 01:09:12,529 --> 01:09:19,800 and follow the path so that maybe one day his sentence, 1445 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:25,520 may my end be your beginning, may be true. 1446 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,000 I always thought of Guruji's teaching as rainfall. 1447 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,330 It was a downpour, and whoever was lucky enough 1448 01:09:32,330 --> 01:09:34,850 to be in that field, received that. 1449 01:09:34,850 --> 01:09:39,180 So he never chose, or he never selected, 1450 01:09:39,180 --> 01:09:43,050 that he would teach this person and not that person. 1451 01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:45,810 So whoever was there just received it. 1452 01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:47,270 So it is the-- 1453 01:09:47,270 --> 01:09:49,250 the onus is upon each one of us who 1454 01:09:49,250 --> 01:09:53,060 was received that rainfall to keep it alive 1455 01:09:53,060 --> 01:09:55,410 and to pass it on as [INAUDIBLE].. 1456 01:09:55,410 --> 01:09:59,670 If you are practicing yoga, do not get carried away, 1457 01:09:59,670 --> 01:10:00,948 but continue. 1458 01:10:00,948 --> 01:10:03,320 The light will come on its own. 1459 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,950 The fruit will fall to the ground when it is ripe. 1460 01:10:05,950 --> 01:10:07,290 Is it not? 1461 01:10:07,290 --> 01:10:09,160 We are practicing yoga. 1462 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,120 So as we practicing, the fruit has 1463 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,910 to come when the body and the mind is right for it to fall. 1464 01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:19,410 Then that is known as self-realisation. 1465 01:10:19,410 --> 01:10:21,090 Because you have to tend to the tree. 1466 01:10:21,090 --> 01:10:23,340 You have to look up to the tree for the fruit to come. 1467 01:10:23,340 --> 01:10:26,223 So also, you have to look after the body and the mind, which 1468 01:10:26,223 --> 01:10:29,580 are the tree of the soul, which are the branches of the soul. 1469 01:10:29,580 --> 01:10:31,305 So they have to be looked after so 1470 01:10:31,305 --> 01:10:33,480 that the essence may come out and you 1471 01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:35,180 drink the essence of the soul. 1472 01:11:06,930 --> 01:11:10,660 [MUSIC PLAYING] 111277

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