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So what was the big thing that happened in the last year?

I had a baby.

And that? I did IVF. Okay, that's what I figured.

Transparency. That's what I figured. I did IVF. I had eggs frozen a long time

ago. Okay. And it's funny, too, because I was actually not going to keep them.

Because, you know, at a certain point in time, you say, well, I mean, I'm, you

know, 102.

I can't have a kid anymore. So why keep these eggs frozen, you know? Yeah, yeah,

yeah.

So it was getting that time that I said, you know, is it really worth?

It's like almost $800 a year to – To keep and maintain? Yeah. Okay.

So I said, eh, it's – Storage units are more expensive. Yeah, exactly.

You pay like $200 a month.

Anyway. Well, I mean, yeah, but then, you know, you also have to consider the

health of the egg. Sure, the viability of it. Yeah.

So – How old were you when you got that, when you got them frozen?

Or how long ago was that?

Mid -40s, early 40s. Okay. I mean, still considered old.

Yeah. I mean, for – Childbearing. Yeah. Still considered old.

But you were still producing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything was still healthy and good to go.

I actually tried doing it another way.

There's a doctor in Greece for an IVF clinic that they do

platelet -rich plasma, you know, PRP. And what they do is they spin it,

get your plasma, and inject it into your ovaries.

Because I wanted to.

try the natural way true because at the time i was with a boyfriend it's the

most fun way i think too yeah i mean random cool it would be the first baby

him and yeah you know um i think i don't like to say that god intervened or

whatever because i think that whatever comes our way um god gives us the tools

to survive it yeah yeah or or the universe or whatever you want whatever

whatever you want to believe yeah you know he ignited in me something that i I

just had to confront, you know, and that was that I really wanted to have a

baby. I wanted to have a baby 28 years ago when my daughter was two. Yeah. You

know, my daughter will be 30 in November.

Okay. And.

Were you already in this mindset when you came on the show last year?

Oh, yeah. No, I knew. So you were like on that pathway.

Yeah. Okay.

Uh, when was it that I came on the show? I think it was February of last year.

Okay. So we met at ABN and then you came. My transfer was in May.

Okay. So I knew I was already doing it. I went to the doctor in Greece, tried

that. It did not work. So I said, well, fuck it. And then I was just going to

give up after the boyfriend situation.

And then I just had a heart to heart with myself. And I said, you know, this

something I really want. And financially I'm in the.

In the ability zone, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When I had my daughter, ooh, I'm going to tell you, for as tumultuous as our

relationship can be, we have a very concrete relationship. She will always

my number one. Yes.

Because we survived things together.

Yeah. You know, we survived so much together. And yes, I wish it had not

that way.

But if wishes were fishes, right?

We did it. We survived.

We are who we are now, and it's a fantastic thing that we have learned and

grown, and this is where we are.

That's just the way it is. Yeah, yeah. No, life deals you cards, and you play

the cards you're dealt. Exactly, exactly.

But fortunately, I don't have to replay that because now I'm financially

capable, and I can make money and not leave my home.

Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the beauties of what you do. You know, and I make

enough that I can afford a nanny. Yeah. So that's the direction I went. You can

be here to do this.

Precisely. You know. And a little bit late because the nanny was late. It's

okay. It's okay.

But so I decided to have a baby.

It was, you know, I did sit down and really, really think hard and long about

it. And I asked everybody in my life, what do you think of this? And some

were like.

I'm sure that you got.

And other people were like, well, hell, you know, if that's what you want,

Debra, do it.

I mean. Call me Debra or Ryan, whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But so I ended up doing the IVF.

They created embryos. They took, I had 20 eggs. Okay.

On freezer.

Okay. And they took 10. I specifically told them not to take the full batch.

Yeah. Why?

I don't know, but something tells me to reserve some just in case it hits the

fan. Yeah. So, and maybe not for me. You never know. Like, my daughter could

have a problem. Your genetic code should live on.

You know, it's funny.

Well, you know. The essence that is you should keep going. You just never know.

No, I know. Like, I have a daughter. I might, you know, or maybe my, I had a

son. And, you know, you never know. People.

People, the infertility rates going up, you just never know.

So. So they made eggs. Yes. They took my eggs. They made embryos. Took 10 eggs,

made embryos. Five of them survived the process.

Okay. Apparently it's a difficult process. So they implant all of them at

No, no. Okay. I ended up with two boys, three girls. Okay. Yes, I wanted to know

the sex.

Okay. I chose a boy. Okay.

They take one.

And they implanted. Okay.

This fertility center said they do not do twins, which I wanted to do very bad

because I thought, you know, let's get her done. I didn't want to have an only

child, to be honest with you.

There's a special connection twins have with each other. Of course. Like even

more so than regular siblings.

Yes, of course.

Of course.

But I really was doing it for ease of.

my age sure you know let's let's knock it out that way i don't have to by the

way um i will be doing it again next year really yeah oh wow okay uh i don't

like kids being only children yeah i think they deserve a friend and they

deserve somebody who's close in their age and a little bit of competition yeah

and yes they deserve somebody close enough that they're still because now

like your son has a almost 30 year old sister yeah who could who might Could be

a mom. Could be. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I mean, old enough to be a mother. Yeah.

Double. Yeah. I mean, kids are having 15 years old having kids. Yeah.

Exactly. She can twice over be a mother.

So they implanted that. It worked. It went well.

I'm going to tell you it was rough for a bit.

Yeah. I was going to ask you. How was the pregnancy?

Oh, my God. The pregnancy was great. Really? Okay. But the first part of the

pregnancy, they are.

The pre -pregnancy, they build up your placenta. You do injectables.

I had to wear this patch of nitroglycerin.

Oh, my God.

That was the worst, I think. Wow. Because it gives you a really bad

What it's doing is it's increasing blood flow. Okay. So it's either for heart

patients.

I think it's if you're starting to have a heart attack. Yeah, because they give

nitroglycerin pills.

Right, and you put it under your tongue and it brings you out of it. But I want

to say it's because it increases blood flow.

But anyway, it was building the placenta. That's what they were focused

building the lining of my uterus. And I don't know that it was my natural

process was bad.

But they wanted to be sure that it was tip -top so that I didn't lose it. The

best chance of success.

Correct. Correct.

And the pregnancy went great.

Really? Oh, yeah.

I'm going to say that the only time I really had, like, because it's not my

first rodeo, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I know, you know, for morning

sickness, it's because you're hungry.

Yeah. So eat something. And, like, just make sure that right when you get up,

you drink something or eat something so that something's on your stomach.

But would you say your body was a little different in your, say, late 20s than

when it was now? Oh, a thousand percent, yeah.

I had my daughter when I was 24.

Okay, so mid -20s, yeah.

Yeah, and yes, a thousand times over there were differences. Yeah.