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Hi, kittens. How's it hanging?
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I'm in that, like, crazy quiet time
before the show tapes, and I'm reading
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dumb news on my phone, and I... I don't
know. I just thought I'd shoot a video
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and, I don't know, maybe knock out,
like, an epic takedown or something.
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So the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing
started.
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It's a fucking mess already.
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But, of course... We're already
distracted because that Bob Woodward's
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book coming out. No Bernstein this time.
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I think it's okay. I think he was kind
of like the Garfunkel of the duo anyway.
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But the book is about Trump, and it's
called Fear.
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But apparently it's not related to the
movie where, like, Mark Wahlberg fingers
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Reese Witherspoon on a roller coaster.
It's different.
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Anyway, can't wait to read it. Looks
juicy as fuck.
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I guess Trump called Jeff Sessions like
a dumb southerner or something, and he
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told Rudy Giuliani he's a little baby
that needs his diaper changed, and he
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that Mike Pence pees out of his
butthole.
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I made that last one up, but you'd
believe it, wouldn't you? Because this
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thing's a fucking shit show.
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But make no mistake, the Trump
administration is thrilled about this
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right now because they're going to get
to confirm Kavanaugh, and that will
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give... Every anti -choice Republican, a
giant boner. This is a position for
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life, y 'all. They want to push it
through. And if it goes through, it's
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to affect every vulnerable person in
America negatively until the day he
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Until the devil comes to collect his
soul.
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And they're like concealing hundreds of
thousands of pages of documents on
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Kavanaugh. That's like...
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That's like almost an entire Cheesecake
Factory menu.
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And why are they doing this? Hmm.
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Occam's razor comes to mind. If it
smells like shit and it tastes like
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it's probably a Toblerone. Kidding. It's
shit.
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This isn't sponsored by Toblerone.
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Look, I'm just saying, this is, it's
fucking unprecedented.
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And if the shoe were on the other foot,
there is no way Republicans would let
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this fly. And you know it.
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But, I mean, come on. Do we really want
this to be our Supreme Court nomination
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process? Because if so, we're looking at
a future like where the president could
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just withhold his taxes from the public
or declare the free press the enemy of
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the people.
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And that would be like the end of
democracy.
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Now, if you will excuse me, I'm going to
go see a man about a finger on a roller
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coaster. Peace.
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Shave it off, stay alive, open wide.
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Show us how.
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So this show is about trying to be open
-minded, you know? And I want different
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perspectives. Like, on our writing
staff, we've got, like, one writer who's
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progressive Democrat, and we've got
another writer who's a progressive
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Democratic socialist.
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It really runs the gamut.
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No, but I really, I've been sitting down
and talking with people across the
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aisle a lot lately, and what's become
clear to me is that, like, We aren't
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working off the same basic truths, you
know. We know this country is divided as
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fuck. That's not new news. But we've
entered this, like, new normal where
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in power just, they lie.
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Which made me realize the problem with
politics in America isn't the division
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itself. It's the people doing the
dividing.
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And that's who I have a problem with,
the liars. I can...
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Absolutely adore people I fundamentally
disagree with, but I got no room in my
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picker for liars.
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I have no room in any of my organs for
liars.
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Not in my lungs, not in my aorta. Oh,
that's hard.
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Not in my butt.
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That's not an organ.
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Whatever, you know what I mean. And when
I say liars, I mean corrupt.
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politicians, and the billionaires who
pay them to distribute well -crafted
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in order to maintain their wealth and
power.
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You're not clapping for them, right?
Because that would be like crazy crap.
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What do I mean by lies?
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Liberals want to take all your guns.
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Or Mexican immigrants are rapists.
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These are the kind of lies that are
designed to get people scared and angry,
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which makes them controllable. Because
scared and angry is a liar's most
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valuable consumer.
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So like, while you're distracted
screaming at someone for speaking
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IHOP, they can pass laws to take away
your health insurance.
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Look. Tonight's the first game of the
NFL season, right? And there's already
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anger over Nike's deal with Colin
Kaepernick, a man who risked everything
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expose injustice.
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How totally un -American.
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And politicians will once again roll out
their stock takes on why players are
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kneeling during the national anthem.
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It's misguided to protest.
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The anthem and the flag.
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They indict our country, our service
members, our first responders, our
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fathers. NFL protesters protesting the
national anthem. When you go down and
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take a knee or any other way, you're
sitting, essentially, for our great
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national anthem. You're disrespecting
our flag and you're disrespecting our
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country. Okay, those are lies.
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All of those people know the players are
not protesting a song.
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And they're pretending to think that
players are protesting our national
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our military, our flag, when they know,
they know.
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that they are protesting police
brutality.
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The players have all been very
transparent about that because it's what
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literally trying to bring attention to.
And I hate that I just ended that
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sentence with a preposition. I can fix
that. Sorry, I'm usually a stickler.
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Because it's literally what they're
trying to bring attention to, you
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disingenuous fucking spin doctors. And
yet, I mean the band.
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You know who suggested to Colin
Kaepernick that he start kneeling in the
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place? A veteran.
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And the liars know that.
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They are knowingly perpetuating this
shameless lie because it fits their
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narrative. The liars fall in line with
our America -loving president who,
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funnily enough, could give two fucks
about respecting the flag or veterans,
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specifically the most veteran -y veteran
in the world.
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Do you have any thoughts on John McCain?
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Do you have any thoughts at all about
John McCain?
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President Trump ignored questions about
McCain today. And for most of the day,
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the White House flag was back at full
staff, even as the flags at the U .S.
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Capitol, per tradition, remained at half
staff.
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Right. So NFL players use the flag to
draw attention to an epidemic of police
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brutality and violence.
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And our president uses the flag to draw
attention to someone who was mean to him
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once.
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So yeah, I don't give a flying fuck
about the liars. Who I do care about are
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lied to.
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The well -intentioned citizens who
believe the liars and the lies that they
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tell. And who can blame them? The liars
are excellent at lying.
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This is what kills me.
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They frame what behooves only them as
what's best for America.
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And the lied to believe it.
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And they pass it on. It's like the liars
are our farmers. And the lies are their
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seeds. And then the lied to are the
wind. And they unknowingly spread the
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around. And I am trying to dig up those
seeds, which makes me a hoe.
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Look,
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all I'm saying is...
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All I'm saying is if you only get your
news from Fox News or the president's
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tweets, it's fine. Keep doing that.
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I only ask that you read a couple other
points of view as well. You are eating
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all carbs. You need some vegetables.
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Yes, you might not like the taste at
first, but it's good for you and it will
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make your shits healthier.
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Watch out for the liars.
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You know, we got to be wary of the
people who tell us not to trust our eyes
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not to trust our ears. Be wary of the
people who want us to have less
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information. Stick with us. Don't
believe the crap you see from these
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the fake news.
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Just remember, what you're seeing and
what you're reading is not what's
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happening.
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I had a boyfriend who burned bridges
right and left.
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And I'll change his name for the story,
but he would be like, everyone's out to
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get me. And I'd be like, you're right, 2
Chainz. Damn it.
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I mean, Steve.
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But I always took his side because I
loved him.
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And I believed him. But I believed him
because I only ever heard his
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perspective. I was only hearing his
side. He was my Fox News.
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I fiercely protected him. And I took on
any fight he had because when you love
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someone, not only do you want to see the
best in them, you need to see the best
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in them. It's survival.
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And that's what Trump is right now. He
is your shitty boyfriend.
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You know, he starts off great, he picks
you up in a limo with flowers, and he's
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like, baby, I'll take care of you. And
you're like, wow, whoa, you know.
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And then slowly you get the feeling that
maybe this was all for show, that maybe
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he's not that great.
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You know, like he buys Magnum condoms
for his regular -sized dick.
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You know, makes you a handwritten love
coupon for your birthday, and it's to
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blow him.
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And then you discover he's been sleeping
with Vladimir Putin and the NRA and
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tons of porn stars, and it's
embarrassing because everyone knows it,
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keeps doing it right in front of your
fucking face.
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And even if you wanted to break up with
him, you can't because you're scared
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because he's shown you over and over
again with other people that he is
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vindictive.
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So all I can say to those of you who are
still with Trump, girl, you gotta leave
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his ass.
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You deserve
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better than this.
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You deserve a president who's gonna
treat you right. A president who's
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you know, make sure you come too.
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Trump has never made a woman come in his
life. What makes you think he can,
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like, fix North Korea?
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liars, let's talk about truthers, not
truthers. That's not what I meant.
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I mean people who tell the truth.
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Coming up on the show, I interview NFL
players Doug Baldwin and Malcolm
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and I had an amazing chat with them
about how their peaceful protest gets
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purposely misinterpreted by assholes.
And boy, the smear campaign is in full
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force. Look at this.
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Philadelphia Eagles safety Malcolm
Jenkins thinks he's so great.
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Well, let's look at the facts.
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Jenkins was drafted with the 14th pick
of the 2009 NFL Draft, which means 13
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players were way better than him.
Jenkins, a two -time Pro Bowler, has
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seven career touchdowns, which doesn't
add up because he plays defense.
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In 2010, Jenkins and his mother
Gwendolyn launched the Malcolm Jenkins
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Foundation, which is committed to youth
development initiatives.
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But if he's really so charitable, why is
he only helping youth?
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What about super old people?
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Jenkins has made headlines advocating
for his beliefs through silent protests.
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Makes you wonder, can he even talk?
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He's a co -founder of the NFL Players
Coalition and continues to work on
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of players fighting racial inequality.
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I guess he's too busy protesting to do
his job.
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Oh, he won a Super Bowl?
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Two Super Bowls?
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Malcolm Jenkins.
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I wish I was him.
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Hi. Welcome back. Now, who wants to talk
about abortion?
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Me?
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Yes. Yes, me. Check it out.
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So, like, I'm super pro -choice, and I
don't often get to interact with people
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who are pro -life.
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But, you know, it seems to me like you
shouldn't shield yourself from other
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beliefs just to keep your own beliefs
intact. So I'm here at this airport
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because I've decided to spend the day
with a hardline pro -life group called
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Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust.
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Don't judge, Sarah. Come on.
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Look, I'm sure we both have preconceived
notions of each other. Like, my knee
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-jerk thought is that they're Bible
-thumping crackpots trying to control
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women's bodies. And they're probably
thinking I'm, you know, like, too
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To get to the bottom of it, I spoke to
Jeff White.
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Hello, Sarah. Hi. Co -founder of The
Survivors. They're a youth -focused
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that gets their message across using
extreme rhetoric and graphic images.
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I also spoke to Dr. Willie Parker, who
is a crucial women's health care
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provider. Or a professional fetus
assassin. It depends on who you're
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What has your experience been like with
people who are anti -choice?
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Well, I'm glad you said anti -choice
because that gives me a specific
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that they hold.
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I've learned it. That's not pro -life.
It's anti -choice, which is always how I
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saw it. But I never thought to
articulate it that way because the
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call themselves pro -life.
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had defined themselves, and I accepted
it. Being affirming of life, for me, I'm
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pro -life of the mother.
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I simply conclude that a fetus can never
be more important than the woman
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carrying it.
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This is so like pressure's on situation.
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Should we jump right in? Sure. Tell me
everything.
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The group that I represent is Survivors
of the Abortion Holocaust.
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We're a pro -life youth organization.
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What we do is we train young people in
peaceful, nonviolent protest.
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For people whose core beliefs are
different than yours, you are wanting to
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a law that goes against that.
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I believe that science teaches us that
life begins at conception.
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Judaism doesn't hold this extreme notion
of life beginning at conception.
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No, Jews believe that life starts at 40.
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Well, my friend told me, his mother
said, that you're viable as a fetus when
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graduate from college and you have a
job.
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And maybe when you become a doctor.
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Life does begin scientifically.
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Every embryologist will tell you it
begins at the moment of conception.
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don't know that every doctor would say
that.
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As a matter of fact, I talked to a
doctor, Dr.
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Willie Parker.
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He used an analogy of an oak tree.
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A person is not created at conception
because you're not a person until you're
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born. An acorn and an oak tree have the
exact same genetic complement, as does a
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tadpole and a frog.
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But an acorn is not an oak tree. A
tadpole is not a frog. Yes, it is an oak
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tree. That argument is one I actually
illustrated to the kids to say how
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the pro -choice argument used to be.
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If I step on an acorn...
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It is not the same significance of me
chopping down a hundred -year oak tree.
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You will become an old person if someone
doesn't step on you or run you over.
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Yeah. That doesn't make you not a human.
But I'm a conscious living human. But
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now you're adding other things to it.
But the difference between a fetus and
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is consciousness, right? No, I would
disagree with that depending on what...
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Then what is your happiest memory in
utero?
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I don't have a memory from two years
old, but that doesn't make me not a
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at two.
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Touché. Thank you.
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But you know what else is life?
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Sperm. No, sperm is alive.
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Sperm cannot reproduce itself.
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Well, some women can't reproduce.
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Ooh, touche. I'll give you a touche on
that one.
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Now that I've talked about abortion with
two middle -aged dudes, I decided to
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sit down with people whose bodies are
actually affected.
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Survivors co -founder Cheryl Conrad and
some of the group's young members and
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allies. I was going to bring flour and
sugar and eggs, but that's not a cookie
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yet.
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Tell me what brought you to Survivors
LA.
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For me, it's personal.
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I actually have had an abortion myself.
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We wanted our kids to be able to
experience being involved in pro -life
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stand for something that you believe
passionately in. The appeal of a camp
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called Holocaust.
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Camp is just so beyond ironic and
horrifying to me, but it sounds...
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make you want to go? Now that I've heard
about it, it sounds like a lot of fun.
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I'm here because I believe that abortion
is wrong. I believe it is killing an
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innocent child, and I want to help
people who are my age. And what brought
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to it, the pussy?
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How did you come up with the name
Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust?
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And do you have any Jewish friends?
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I wanted a name that would be so
controversial, even from the get -go,
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that it was a slap in the face and that
someone would challenge me on it. It's a
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conversation starter.
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It's like having a parrot on your
shoulder.
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I actually just thought you would have a
knee -jerk reaction to it. My knee
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-jerk reaction is...
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The syntax is a nightmare.
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You want an abortion holocaust. That's
the complete end of all abortion.
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The syntax is all wrong.
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Okay, so what are we doing here? At this
particular session, we are doing sign
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making. I know.
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We didn't talk about it. Here, I made
one for you that I think is more fair.
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Abortion. We don't think that it's
right.
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But other people feel differently, and
that's okay. But we just want to
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our right to hold our signs with our
thoughts on them.
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If what you believe is right, then you
should be able to change people's minds
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and hearts using only what is true.
Yeah. It shouldn't just be a big poster
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-sized bloody fetus, because that isn't
the size of a fetus. Good point.
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It's less effective, but at least it
uses what is true.
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Oh, it's perfect. It's pocket -sized.
This is life.
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This is life.
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You're wanting people to vote to make
laws that rule over a woman's body
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their own choices.
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Fair enough. People get pregnant from
rape. People get pregnant because their
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contraception doesn't work.
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And your reasoning is spot on, except
for this.
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We have two unique lives.
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If you have that, what do you have? What
do you mean? The life of the fetus? The
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life of the child and the life of the
mother.
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The fetus and the mother.
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It's only a fetus if you don't want it.
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As long as it's in the uterus is a
fetus.
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It's not a baby. Baby is a cultural
term. It's a sentiment. That's not a
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term. And so when people say unborn
baby, it's really very inflammatory,
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coercive language.
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We have a disagreement over this right
here. And I believe that the law should
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protect the most innocent, the weakest
within our society, which would be the
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child. One thing that Dr.
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Parker said that the question isn't when
does a fetus become a person, but when
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does a woman stop being a person?
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Diane, show me a Diane.
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All right, so we like to spread out so
that you're not too close to each other.
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And then I will say, all right,
survivors die.
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And you lay down on the ground.
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And we will not rest until this violence
is through.
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Yep. I'm happy to join you, Elizabeth.
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You have to go in the fetal position.
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Yeah, fetal position.
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That's me all my time off.
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You say that there are no exceptions for
abortion, but what if you got pregnant
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and you found out that your kid was
going to grow up to be a DJ or one of
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guys that wears the shoes with the
separated toes?
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You might.
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Forced me to reconsider. Oh, my God.
That was the change. That was what it
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Those shoes are ridiculous.
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And then people are coming around to
chalk and outline our bodies, since
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abortion is killing an innocent human.
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Oh, my Diane is for, like, dwindling
health care and Medicaid.
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And then we'll drape some red cloth
across you, and that is representing the
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blood that is spilled.
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There's, like, not enough Purell in the
world for me to do a Diane, but...
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Well, after spending a full day with
these pro -lifers, I'm happy to report
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we changed each other's minds.
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So much so that I am totally pro -life
now and survivors of the abortion
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holocaust are now pro -choice.
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Kidding. Obviously, that didn't happen.
They think I want to kill babies and I
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think they want to take away women's
rights while co -opting the holocaust.
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What are you going to do, right? You got
to try.
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In the meantime, we have to remember
that we're all human.
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Except for fetuses, which are not yet,
according to science.
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Guys, are you ready for some football
discussion with players about stuff? I
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recently sat down with NFL stars Malcolm
Jenkins and Doug Baldwin to talk about
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the NFL's policy on player protests and
our country's uncanny knack for not
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listening.
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Oh, my God. I'm so embarrassed.
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Oh, I left my Biore strips on.
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No blackheads.
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Check it out.
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Um... Oh, shit, that looks good.
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It's really just that dressing, though.
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Um, the league passed this new policy.
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Players have to stand for the national
anthem, and if they don't, they have to
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stay kind of hidden in the locker room.
I mean, does that solve things for you?
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No. Yeah, no.
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I'll let you go on that one. You want to
leave this one to me? Yeah, I'll leave
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that one to you. I'll pay you back.
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No, it doesn't. And I think that the NFL
really missed a critical opportunity to
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really build a relationship with its
players. I think it's very tone -deaf of
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them. What's going to happen is still
yet to be seen, but I can tell you that
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it's not a great conversation being had
right now.
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Your opinion that the NFL owners are
influenced by this president?
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I think they are going back and forth.
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And oftentimes, whenever you play
defense, you usually piss off both
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like both sides.
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You know, from a player's standpoint, in
no way, shape, or form does this keep
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us quiet. I think, if anything, to put
more microphones in our places is put
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this. right back on the pedestal and
we'll continue to push forward.
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For me personally, it's more about the
rhetoric and the language that's being
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used, especially coming out of the NFL's
office.
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In this ruling, we're going to say that
our players need to stand and respect
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the flag, as if what we were doing was
disrespecting the flag.
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And we had those conversations with
Roger Goodell, with the NFL office, and
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telling them, like, it has nothing to do
with disrespecting our country. The
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fact of the matter is that there's
things going on in our country.
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that we feel are disrespectful to the
flag and to what this country stands
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what it was founded upon.
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And so for you to say that we're
disrespecting it, to me it's one of the
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unpatriotic things that any organization
could have done, especially to the
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players who are pushing for changes
within this country that are supposed to
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benefit this country.
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That's what I hate is like this
disingenuous misunderstanding of why
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kneeling, why they have their fists up,
why they're protesting.
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How many times do you have to say, you
know, it's like you with a press
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conference. You just held up a sign.
You're not listening.
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I think it was a response to really
media and everybody else who want to
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about the flag or the anthem.
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It's not. And so let's not even have
that debate. And let's just talk about
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fact. How do we feel that we lead the
world of sentencing our kids to life
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without parole, that we send our
juveniles to adult facilities, most of
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are African -American and color, that we
have a quarter of the incarcerated
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people in the world here in the United
States? And these things have had a
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disproportionate effect on communities
of color, not only in 2018 or in recent
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years, but for centuries.
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The analogy that I use is, if you have
children, right, do you discipline your
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children? I'm barren, but go on.
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I don't have children yet either. But my
mom, she disciplined me, but she still
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loved me. She would do anything for me.
So it's the same thing.
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It's not that we don't love this
country. It's not that we're not
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thankful for what this country stands
for.
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But that doesn't mean you don't hold it
accountable.
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That doesn't mean that you don't
discipline it when it gets off track.
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Yeah, I think it's far more patriotic
than anything else, especially treason.
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Malcolm, you're part of the Philadelphia
Eagles Super Bowl winning team.
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Were some of you turned down a visit to
the White House?
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First of all, good on you. We got
disinvited. I guess the attendance
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they wanted it to be, and so that's when
the White House took away their
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invitation. But I think it's a greater
reflection of the administration and not
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us as a team.
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In a more simplistic view, it's just
childish.
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Because somebody doesn't agree with you,
you disinvite them to your...
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Just celebrate, and not to mention then
you put on a separate celebration.
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He threw a party for himself.
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Pretty much.
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I had a fantasy that you would all go to
Chicago and take pictures with the
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Obamas. That would have been great.
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Do you talk about politics in the locker
room at all? Like, is it, how do you
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solve conflicts among the team?
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For us in our locker room, we've always
had those difficult conversations. And I
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think, you know, a lot of times people
say, athletes need to shut up.
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We're civilians, too. We're citizens,
too. We're humans, too. Being in sports
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has really made us probably more
prepared than anybody to actually handle
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type of things. On a daily basis, we're
in a locker room with 90 other men from
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all sorts of backgrounds, races,
religions, socioeconomical backgrounds,
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we're forced to come together for one
goal for all of us to win. We're trained
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to handle this. So when we step into,
you know, just the regular world and
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looking at these issues.
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They seem simple to us. It's like, well,
what do we need to do?
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That's why you both need to run for
office, because you're already, like, in
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microcosm government that should be the
way our government is.
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Please.
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Maybe. All right, I'll fill your, I'll
line your pocket.
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Oh, wait, that's how we got into this.
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So. Malcolm, you have your fist in the
air, and then your teammate, Chris Long,
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put his arm on you.
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Like, how have other teammates
responded?
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Well, I think that was a great example,
not only for my team, but, like, just,
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like, as a country.
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He didn't want to be the center of
attention.
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He just wanted the support.
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Like, you can not agree with somebody's
demonstration, but still agree with
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their issue.
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Or even just be an ally without
thinking, like, that's what...
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That sounds like, to me, a sweet ally
move.
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Yeah. He didn't want to take over. He
didn't want to, like, be the star of the
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movement suddenly. He just wants the
support.
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Right. And that's something I'm trying
to really understand and, like, embody
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well while I took over this comment
right now.
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I just realized.
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Doug, your father was a police officer
for 35 years. How has that informed your
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relationship with social justice?
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I have some insight, you know, what my
father went through, not only just as a
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law enforcement officer, but as a black
law enforcement officer in the south of
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that. When you have that insight, it
allows you, in my opinion, to look at
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things in a different perspective. The
prime example that I can give is the
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Tamir Rice case. You know, Tamir Rice,
12 -year -old boy gets shot and killed.
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Like, you can understand the gravity of
that, and you see the emotion behind the
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family side. But then I saw this
interview with the cop, and you could
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pain inside of him, too.
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becomes Black Lives Matter, Blue Lives
Matter, civilians, law enforcement,
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black, white, whatever it may be, but
truly it's just a humanistic problem
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we have. You've got centuries of trauma
and pain and hurt.
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And so now when we continuously see the
Tamir Rices, the Philando Castells, all
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of these images of people losing their
lives as a community.
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It is really hard for you to tell me to
keep a level head and come to the table
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for reconciliation.
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As a cop, you have to recognize that
uniform that you wear and the badge that
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you wear means something totally
different to the people that you are
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to protect and serve.
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Yeah. The last question is, how has this
experience changed you?
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For me personally, I know just...
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This whole transformation, this whole
process has been me going from a
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discouraged place of like, well, it is
what it is. There's nothing I can do
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about it, to now saying, no, I got to do
something about it. All of us can
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actually have an impact.
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And the more people who start to do
that, then the faster we arrive at the
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we want to be.
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I do think we're in a historical moment,
though, because you can see the younger
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generation starting to ask questions
that they weren't asking before, that we
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didn't ask when we were younger, and
things that are coming to the forefront
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of conversations that, quite frankly,
need to be had.
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I'm just blown away by you guys.
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Not everyone becomes a hero when they're
faced with this kind of shit, and
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history will see you that way, and I see
you that way.
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Thank you for coming today.
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Thank you. Thanks for having me.
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And that about wraps it up. You know,
last year I ended shows by saying, good
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night, America. I love you. Well, this
year I have a new fun clothing that I
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just came up with. And I think you're
going to love.
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Get in the zone.
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Auto zone.
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Good night.
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