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["Hangin' Tough" playing]
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Welcome back
to "Behind the Music."
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-Hey.
-Hi. How's it going?
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Good, good.
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-[makes shuttering sounds]
-Like I'm walking into trouble.
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[chuckles]
I'm walking into trouble.
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Okay. [sighs] Here we go again.
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* We're
the New Kids on the Block *
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NARRATOR: They were the pioneers
of the original boyband.
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* Hangin' tough *
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***
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* Hangin' tough *
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Five teens from
the tough streets of Boston.
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* Are you tough enough? *
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We all grew up poor.
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We all wondered where
our next meal was coming from.
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* Step by step, ooh, baby *
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They shot to fame
in the early '90s
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with their R&B beat
fused with a pop sound.
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That was something
we could never imagine.
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* Step by step *
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They started doing all the...
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* Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh *
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...and I was like,
yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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* The right stuff *
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The New Kids on the Block
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became
an international phenomenon
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with adoring fans
who followed them everywhere.
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As a teenager,
there's no preparation
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for that level of fame.
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* Second kiss had a twist *
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There was always 150 to 200 kids
in front of my house
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just waiting for us to show up.
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But life in the spotlight
came at a price.
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You get all this fame
and all this money,
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and then you can't enjoy it.
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And eventually all that fame
took its toll.
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We were so young. It was so hard
to, like, know really what
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you could take control of
or really what you could say.
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The band's personal struggles
were exposed,
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and then it all came
crashing down.
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There's a million ways
you could tell the story
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of why we broke up.
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I had a secret to hide,
and by me leaving the group
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maybe would set me free.
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[intro to "Summertime" playing]
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But in 2008,
the New Kids reunited...
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Our first step together
in 15 [bleep]damn years, right?
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...this time as grown men
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who are better than ever...
together.
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* And all the good times
we had, baby *
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It was
a much, much deeper connection.
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We all really needed
each other again.
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It took a little bit to,
like, realize we've grown up,
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but everyone's personalities
are still the same.
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JOE:
* All I wanna do is go back *
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Now 13 years
after their original episode
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of "Behind the Music" aired...
-[laughs]
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-* For the '80s babies *
-...the New Kids are back,
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celebrating key moments
in their lives...
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* You're still my '80s baby *
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Doing this again with family--
it changes everything.
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...giving new insights
on their journey...
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In our heyday,
we were young kids,
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still finding ourselves.
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We're all grown up,
and it's so much better now.
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* Baby, 'cause you *
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...and reflecting on the men
they've become today.
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* And I am thankful, you *
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As adults, the key to us
staying together
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and being a strong unit is that
you let the little things go.
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I think with maturity, you learn
to focus on what's important.
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This is
"The New Kids on the Block:
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The Story Behind the Music."
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* I am thankful, thankful,
thankful *
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***
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For those about to lose
their minds...
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I was sitting around my house
one afternoon in quarantine,
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and I said I'll write a song,
and magic will occur.
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We're entertainers,
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so let's put something together
to do our part in helping
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people feel a little better.
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We can make the best of times.
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In the spring of 2020,
the New Kids on the Block...
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-* Turn it up, turn it up *
-...released "House Party"...
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New Kids on the Block!
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...with help from some
of their famous friends.
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Boyz II Men!
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* Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah *
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Big Freedia!
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Uh-huh, Jordin Sparks!
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* Yeah, yeah *
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And Naughty By Nature!
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"House Party" is a great example
of the difference between
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being in the New Kids then
and being in the New Kids now.
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* 'Cause we've waited
long enough *
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We take what we do seriously,
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but we don't take ourselves
that serious.
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-* Let's get it started *
-Oh, oh!
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* 'Cause we've waited
long enough *
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The New Kids are now mature men
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with families
and kids of their own,
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just like their fans who have
grown up right alongside them.
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You got the grandmothers,
the moms, the kids.
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Now it's
a 3-generational experience.
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-* Here we go *
-* Ah-ah-ah, oh, oh *
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* Here we go, house party *
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It's one of the ways we've
evolved from our younger days
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in that we just have fun.
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This time around,
we know who we are,
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and I think that makes us
much more relatable.
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* Can you feel the love? *
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* Gonna party all night long *
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* Come on, stay home *
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***
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The New Kids on the Block
started their journey together
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on the working class streets
of Boston.
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Donnie, Danny, Jordan,
and Jonathan all grew up
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in the Irish Catholic
neighborhood of Dorchester.
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We were all friends
since elementary school.
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We were kinda
all in the same classes.
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That's when I met
the Knight brothers,
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and me and Donnie had already
known each other a little bit,
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but we were little kids.
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We all grew up poor.
We all couldn't heat our homes.
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We all wondered where
our next meal was coming from.
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***
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My younger, younger years
were incredibly turbulent.
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To grow up in a house
with nine kids,
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drugs and alcohol
all over the place,
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music was just my salvation.
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It was a place where I could go
and not just escape
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but actually
to bring people together
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and create
a happier environment.
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***
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In the '70s and '80s,
Boston schools
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were actively desegregating
their campuses.
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So the boys were bussed
to a racially diverse school
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in the town of Roxbury.
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Not a lot of white kids
were exposed
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to different ethnicities
in Boston, and we were.
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And we were with kids
of all races,
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learning to love and respect
and admire our differences.
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Because of their experiences,
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the guys were exposed
to cultural influences
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that would shape
their musical futures.
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Where the party people at,
y'all?
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* We want the funk, come on *
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-* Give up the funk *
-Just get up off your ass now.
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-* We need the funk *
-It's that time now.
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* Gotta have the funk *
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I would get to school and hear
Parliament-Funkadelic
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or you name it,
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and it was always
different types of music around.
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NEWCLEUS: * Jam on it,
jam on and on, on and on it *
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* And if you feeling like
you wanna dance all night *
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* Then go on ahead
and flaunt it *
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That's when I started popping
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and breakdancing
and stuff like that.
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Me and Jordan, before we were
in the group together,
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we used to battle each other in
different breakdancing groups.
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* Jam on it, jam on it,
jam on it *
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On my 13th birthday,
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I went in to buy my first album.
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I ended up being torn
between two albums--
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New Edition and Jonzun Crew.
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And so I was trying to decide,
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and as I started to read
through, like, the liner notes
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and stuff, or the credits,
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I noticed this Maurice Starr's
name was on both albums.
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* Candy girl *
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* You are my world *
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In 1983, local music producer
Maurice Starr
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launched the boyband,
New Edition.
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* Candy girl *
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* All I want to say *
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They had become
a massive success
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and the pride of Boston.
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Everyone in Boston knew
who New Edition was.
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They had that big hit,
"Candy Girl,"
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and it was like
the biggest thing ever.
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But after an ugly split,
New Edition left Maurice
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and his small record label.
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It was very hurtful.
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I quit the business
for about two weeks,
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and I said to myself
after two weeks that I...
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I'm not a quitter, so let's
get up and get this thing going.
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Now I'm gonna put
five young white kids together.
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With the help
of manager Mary Alford,
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Maurice began looking for
the perfect group of white kids
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who could sing, dance,
and rap.
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Mary Alford lived next
to one of my friends.
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We went over to Maurice's house.
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He walked in the room,
and he's limping around,
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using a broomstick
for a crutch.
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He said, uh, "You Donnie?"
I was like, "Yeah."
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He said,
"I heard you were good."
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I said, "Okay." He said,
"I'm gonna make you a star."
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And I looked at the broomstick.
[chuckles]
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And I said,
"Uh, we'll see about that."
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15-year-old Donnie signed on
as the first member
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of Maurice's new band with
his 13-year-old brother Mark.
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We started taking
singing lessons,
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and I would play the drums.
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I got fully immersed
in the studio life,
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and Mark didn't.
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I was walking
the straight and narrow path,
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and he was trying
everything under the sun--
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drugs, alcohol, you name it.
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Slowly, Mark started
to drift away and, you know,
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one day, he said, "I'm not--
I'm not gonna do it anymore.
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I'm gonna quit."
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Maurice said,
"What do you wanna do?
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Do you wanna stop,
or do you wanna keep going?"
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And I said, "I wanna do this.
This is what I'm meant to do."
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And he said, "Okay,
then it's me and you, kid."
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***
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With Mark out of the group,
Maurice and Donnie
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struggled to find
other local teens
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who could pull it off.
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Trying to find five white kids
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doing what I was doing
was not gonna be easy.
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The talent pool
was very shallow,
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but I had some people in mind.
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Donnie gave me a call about, um,
joining this group.
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So he was like, "There's
this guy, um, Maurice Starr.
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He produced New Edition.
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But he wants, uh, like, us
to be famous, you know?"
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And I was like, wow.
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***
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Donnie was always talking to me
about it,
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and it just, you know,
it sounded like a fantasy.
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And I was like, "I don't know."
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He was just like,
"Come on, man.
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You got nothin' to lose.
Just come and audition."
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Maurice agreed to audition
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a few of Donnie's friends
from school,
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and the group began
to take shape.
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I sang for him a little bit,
and he was like,
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"Uh, yeah,
I think you could work, man.
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I think you could work."
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I went back home and, uh,
I tell my brother Jon--
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I was like, "I just went
to an audition with Donnie,
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and, uh, uh, the guy said
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we can be, like, famous
like New Edition,"
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and Jon was like, "Huh?"
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00:10:20,921 --> 00:10:22,655
He was like,
"Why didn't you bring me?"
248
00:10:22,722 --> 00:10:25,258
I was jealous and kinda like,
"Wait a minute.
249
00:10:25,325 --> 00:10:27,326
You're not gonna
leave me behind."
250
00:10:27,394 --> 00:10:28,928
I told him about my brother,
251
00:10:28,995 --> 00:10:31,899
and Maurice loved the idea
of brothers,
252
00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:33,432
you know, because of, like,
the Osmond Brothers
253
00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,268
and The Jackson 5.
254
00:10:35,335 --> 00:10:38,404
But they were missing
the final piece of the puzzle.
255
00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:40,707
Enter 12-year-old
Joey McIntyre,
256
00:10:40,774 --> 00:10:42,842
who came
from a different part of town.
257
00:10:42,909 --> 00:10:44,711
We went on a hunt
258
00:10:44,778 --> 00:10:47,147
for a Michael Jackson-sounding
young white kid,
259
00:10:47,213 --> 00:10:49,750
which is probably the hardest
thing in the world to do,
260
00:10:49,817 --> 00:10:51,818
'cause they don't produce
many of those, you know?
261
00:10:51,884 --> 00:10:56,123
* Baby, you are
the best thing in my life *
262
00:10:56,188 --> 00:10:59,558
I had done a bunch of shows
and loved to perform,
263
00:10:59,625 --> 00:11:01,729
and I guess I had a bit
of a reputation
264
00:11:01,794 --> 00:11:04,697
around my hometown,
and I happened to fit the bill.
265
00:11:04,764 --> 00:11:07,835
Maurice named the newly
assembled group NYNUK.
266
00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:12,004
MAN: [amplified voice]
Let's hear it for...NYNUK!
267
00:11:12,072 --> 00:11:13,472
[girls screaming]
268
00:11:13,539 --> 00:11:17,376
NYNUK. That was completely
Maurice's concept.
269
00:11:17,443 --> 00:11:19,346
We all hated it from the start.
270
00:11:19,412 --> 00:11:20,780
[laughs] Oh, my goodness.
271
00:11:20,847 --> 00:11:23,716
The dumbest name ever--
NYNUK.
272
00:11:23,783 --> 00:11:26,385
People were like,
"Na-nook," "Na-nuke,"
273
00:11:26,452 --> 00:11:27,955
but no one could say
the name right,
274
00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:30,590
and I don't know where
he got it from.
275
00:11:30,657 --> 00:11:32,793
* One, two, three,
in the place to be... *
276
00:11:32,860 --> 00:11:35,327
NYNUK began performing
R&B music
277
00:11:35,394 --> 00:11:37,129
in and around Boston.
278
00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:39,966
The boys worked tirelessly
to make a name for themselves.
279
00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:42,601
We were performing in front
of all-Black audiences,
280
00:11:42,668 --> 00:11:45,705
so that's kind of the route
we thought we were going.
281
00:11:45,773 --> 00:11:47,807
* We know you heard this beat
many, many times *
282
00:11:47,875 --> 00:11:50,543
* But bet you never heard it
with such a vicious rhyme *
283
00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:54,280
The plan was Black audiences
will be surprised
284
00:11:54,346 --> 00:11:56,383
when they see it's white guys,
and they will accept them,
285
00:11:56,448 --> 00:11:58,751
and we will be
a famous R&B act.
286
00:11:58,818 --> 00:12:01,053
* So let me introduce you
to the rest of the crew *
287
00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,188
Joe...
288
00:12:02,254 --> 00:12:03,690
-[audience cheering]
-Popeye.
289
00:12:03,756 --> 00:12:06,525
-[cheering]
-Danny.
290
00:12:06,592 --> 00:12:08,727
-[girl screaming]
-GQ!
291
00:12:08,796 --> 00:12:11,197
Each show was like
a monumental event.
292
00:12:11,264 --> 00:12:15,501
It was a constant battle
for us to prove ourselves.
293
00:12:15,567 --> 00:12:17,169
* And we're here to stay *
294
00:12:17,236 --> 00:12:19,773
[laughs]
295
00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,609
We were very young.
We were very unpolished,
296
00:12:22,674 --> 00:12:25,477
but boy, you saw the grit.
[laughs]
297
00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:27,379
We were determined.
298
00:12:27,447 --> 00:12:28,581
The odds were
stacked against us.
299
00:12:28,648 --> 00:12:30,918
We were just trying
to find our way
300
00:12:30,984 --> 00:12:32,284
to learn how to win
the crowd over.
301
00:12:32,351 --> 00:12:34,153
***
302
00:12:34,221 --> 00:12:37,057
We just wanted to perform
and continue to get better.
303
00:12:37,124 --> 00:12:38,658
So we didn't really care
where it was
304
00:12:38,725 --> 00:12:41,561
or what it was--
anywhere we could get a show.
305
00:12:41,628 --> 00:12:43,029
We did talent shows.
306
00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:45,631
We did
backyard birthday parties.
307
00:12:45,697 --> 00:12:49,469
Roller skating rinks. Churches.
308
00:12:49,536 --> 00:12:51,604
We performed in--in a jail.
309
00:12:51,671 --> 00:12:53,773
We performed at a few jails.
310
00:12:53,841 --> 00:12:55,908
I mean, Donnie's brother
was there,
311
00:12:55,975 --> 00:12:58,445
so we got to visit with him,
too, while performing.
312
00:12:58,510 --> 00:13:00,379
So that was... [laughs] cool.
313
00:13:00,447 --> 00:13:04,551
Sounds weird, but, like,
the shows actually were great.
314
00:13:04,616 --> 00:13:06,719
We really loved
what we were doing
315
00:13:06,785 --> 00:13:09,121
and just kept pushing forward,
316
00:13:09,188 --> 00:13:11,825
and, you know,
with hard work comes success.
317
00:13:11,892 --> 00:13:15,261
In 1985,
while still in high school,
318
00:13:15,327 --> 00:13:18,065
the band began playing
bigger venues
319
00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:19,798
and started pushing
for a record deal.
320
00:13:19,866 --> 00:13:21,433
Maurice started
calling in favors,
321
00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:24,636
"You know, I got this new group.
They're the white New Edition.
322
00:13:24,703 --> 00:13:26,806
They're gonna be
the biggest thing."
323
00:13:26,874 --> 00:13:28,207
But they didn't wanna hear it.
They told me
324
00:13:28,274 --> 00:13:29,509
to get out of the building,
don't come back.
325
00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:31,344
So I said hmm,
let me go, instead of
326
00:13:31,411 --> 00:13:33,846
through the back door,
through the Black door.
327
00:13:33,913 --> 00:13:36,115
["New Kids on the Block"
intro playing]
328
00:13:36,182 --> 00:13:39,019
So I got this guy,
Larkin Arnold, to listen to me.
329
00:13:39,086 --> 00:13:41,153
He said, "I don't like that--
that name, NYNUK."
330
00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:43,289
He said,
"Would you mind changing it
331
00:13:43,355 --> 00:13:46,225
to 'New Kids on the Block' since
y'all got a song called that?"
332
00:13:46,293 --> 00:13:47,759
* We're
the New Kids on the Block *
333
00:13:47,826 --> 00:13:49,662
* On the block *
334
00:13:49,729 --> 00:13:52,599
It was just natural.
It was perfect for us.
335
00:13:52,664 --> 00:13:54,466
-[intro to "Be My Girl" playing]
-Signed to Columbia Records'
336
00:13:54,533 --> 00:13:56,668
R&B division,
337
00:13:56,735 --> 00:13:58,270
the New Kids on the Block
released
338
00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:01,573
their self-titled debut album
in the spring of 1986,
339
00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,443
featuring the single
"Be My Girl."
340
00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:07,779
* Be my girl *
341
00:14:07,846 --> 00:14:09,849
We were in high school.
342
00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:11,518
Who else in the school
got a record album?
343
00:14:11,583 --> 00:14:12,919
This is kinda cool.
344
00:14:12,985 --> 00:14:14,620
If we make a little money,
I could get a scooter
345
00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:16,855
and ride around the city.
That'd be awesome.
346
00:14:16,923 --> 00:14:20,427
But the album made
little impact on the charts,
347
00:14:20,493 --> 00:14:23,529
and the execs at Columbia
quickly lost interest.
348
00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:24,831
From the record company
was like,
349
00:14:24,898 --> 00:14:28,134
"Uh, what are we wasting
our time on this group
350
00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:29,903
that makes no sense?"
351
00:14:29,970 --> 00:14:31,238
The record company was like,
352
00:14:31,303 --> 00:14:33,206
"I think we're gonna cut 'em
off the label."
353
00:14:33,273 --> 00:14:35,375
And we were like...
[clicks teeth]
354
00:14:35,442 --> 00:14:37,476
"We gotta keep going.
We gotta keep going."
355
00:14:37,543 --> 00:14:38,811
[intro to "Hangin' Tough"
playing]
356
00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:39,812
* Whoa-oh, oh, oh, oh *
357
00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:41,548
Given one more chance,
358
00:14:41,614 --> 00:14:44,183
the guys took matters
into their own hands.
359
00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:46,885
* Everybody's always talkin'
'bout who's on top *
360
00:14:46,953 --> 00:14:49,322
And in the spring of 1987,
361
00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,857
the group began working
on a new album,
362
00:14:51,924 --> 00:14:54,494
appropriately titled
"Hangin' Tough."
363
00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:56,796
* Hangin' tough *
364
00:14:56,863 --> 00:14:58,865
* Hangin' tough *
365
00:14:58,932 --> 00:15:01,201
* Hangin' tough *
366
00:15:01,268 --> 00:15:02,835
***
367
00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:04,770
* Are you tough enough? *
368
00:15:04,836 --> 00:15:07,240
The second album had
a little more grown-up sound.
369
00:15:07,307 --> 00:15:09,341
It was stuff
we were listening to.
370
00:15:09,408 --> 00:15:11,144
You know, it's gotta be organic.
371
00:15:11,211 --> 00:15:15,014
We were
more creatively involved.
372
00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:17,450
* Just hangin' tough, oh, oh *
373
00:15:17,517 --> 00:15:18,684
Maurice--he'd seen us all
374
00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:19,885
starting to come up
with dance steps,
375
00:15:19,952 --> 00:15:22,355
different styles
and the way we dressed,
376
00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,091
how we should present ourselves,
what music we should be doing,
377
00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:27,927
and he'd step back a little bit,
and he goes,
378
00:15:27,995 --> 00:15:29,729
"I could learn something
from these guys."
379
00:15:29,796 --> 00:15:35,201
* Please don't go, girl *
380
00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:40,807
* You would ruin
my whole world *
381
00:15:40,873 --> 00:15:42,009
In April of 1988,
382
00:15:42,075 --> 00:15:44,476
the boys had hit
their late teens
383
00:15:44,543 --> 00:15:46,812
when the first single
from the new album was released.
384
00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:48,315
* I love you *
385
00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:49,615
[whisper] * I love you *
386
00:15:49,682 --> 00:15:52,119
* I guess I... *
387
00:15:52,184 --> 00:15:54,153
But "Please Don't Go Girl"
didn't make the impact
388
00:15:54,221 --> 00:15:56,556
on the R&B charts
the band had hoped for.
389
00:15:56,623 --> 00:16:00,460
* Girl *
390
00:16:00,527 --> 00:16:03,395
We were an R&B act.
391
00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:06,798
We were being marketed
to Black radio only.
392
00:16:06,865 --> 00:16:11,004
We did a video,
and it went to BET.
393
00:16:11,071 --> 00:16:13,405
I could see, yeah, trying
to cross over after you go pop,
394
00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:16,775
but they were trying to go Black
first with these white kids.
395
00:16:16,842 --> 00:16:19,511
That strategy ultimately
was not working.
396
00:16:19,578 --> 00:16:21,913
* Love you *
397
00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:26,619
Even though we put all this time
and hard work into this,
398
00:16:26,686 --> 00:16:31,291
it looked like we just didn't
know it was gonna happen.
399
00:16:31,357 --> 00:16:32,524
Later that summer,
400
00:16:32,591 --> 00:16:35,595
the New Kids' luck
began to change.
401
00:16:35,662 --> 00:16:40,500
One pop radio DJ in Florida
played "Please Don't Go Girl"
402
00:16:40,567 --> 00:16:41,933
on a pop radio station.
403
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,769
The phones lit up.
404
00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:46,472
They called the radio people
at Sony, at CBS,
405
00:16:46,538 --> 00:16:49,775
and they were like,
"You got a hit. You got a hit.
406
00:16:49,841 --> 00:16:53,513
It's a pop record."
407
00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:56,548
The song eventually rose
to number 10 on the pop charts
408
00:16:56,615 --> 00:16:59,552
and became the New Kids'
first commercial hit.
409
00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:03,322
If the guy in Florida would have
not played that record,
410
00:17:03,389 --> 00:17:06,058
there's no telling
what would have happened.
411
00:17:06,125 --> 00:17:09,662
Looking back,
it's kinda funny that it just...
412
00:17:09,729 --> 00:17:12,164
happened by accident.
413
00:17:19,605 --> 00:17:21,773
As the New Kids gained exposure,
414
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,111
they got the chance
of a lifetime--
415
00:17:24,176 --> 00:17:27,079
an audition for 16-year-old
pop queen Tiffany
416
00:17:27,146 --> 00:17:29,481
as the opening act
on her national tour.
417
00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,683
They popped
into my dressing room,
418
00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:35,221
and they started doing all
the... * Oh, oh, oh-oh-oh *
419
00:17:35,288 --> 00:17:39,291
And I was like,
"Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes."
420
00:17:39,358 --> 00:17:41,361
I don't have an opening act.
421
00:17:41,427 --> 00:17:43,863
Literally that night
I put them onstage.
422
00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:46,532
Who doesn't like five hot guys
doing their thing
423
00:17:46,598 --> 00:17:50,336
with great music and being
as charismatic as they are?
424
00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:52,805
It was exciting and scary
at the same time.
425
00:17:52,872 --> 00:17:55,541
I mean, here we are,
getting on a bus.
426
00:17:55,607 --> 00:17:57,609
Our parents don't know
where we are.
427
00:17:57,676 --> 00:17:59,811
There was not cellphones
back then,
428
00:17:59,878 --> 00:18:03,282
so it was, you know,
"I'll call you at the hotel"
429
00:18:03,349 --> 00:18:04,851
or something like that.
430
00:18:04,916 --> 00:18:09,588
It was an amazing night
that night to get on a tour bus.
431
00:18:09,655 --> 00:18:12,592
That was somethin'
we could never imagine.
432
00:18:12,659 --> 00:18:15,362
-* Whoa-oh, oh, oh, oh *
-Yes!
433
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:18,431
This is
a New Kids on the Block party,
434
00:18:18,498 --> 00:18:21,433
and you're all invited.
435
00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:23,502
The tour with Tiffany
got the New Kids noticed
436
00:18:23,569 --> 00:18:25,605
by a fresh group of fans,
437
00:18:25,672 --> 00:18:28,007
and the boys were loving
every minute of it.
438
00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:30,910
* Just get on the floor
and do the New Kids dance *
439
00:18:30,977 --> 00:18:34,314
It just grew from that point on.
440
00:18:34,381 --> 00:18:36,583
I would peek out
and watch their set
441
00:18:36,648 --> 00:18:39,152
before I would go out onstage,
and you know,
442
00:18:39,219 --> 00:18:41,253
it was already crazy.
443
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,954
The girls were screaming
and crying.
444
00:18:43,021 --> 00:18:45,291
* Hangin' tough *
445
00:18:45,357 --> 00:18:46,858
-* Yeah *
-* Hangin' tough *
446
00:18:46,925 --> 00:18:50,396
So, yes, I had a little bit
of a feeling in my heart
447
00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:52,365
that this was gonna be big.
448
00:18:52,432 --> 00:18:54,366
* Hangin' tough *
449
00:18:54,433 --> 00:18:56,269
[song ends, fans screaming]
450
00:18:56,336 --> 00:18:57,503
Are we gonna be
on the cover of "People"?
451
00:18:57,569 --> 00:18:59,239
-Uh...
-No.
452
00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:00,807
-Soon.
-[laughter]
453
00:19:00,873 --> 00:19:03,710
ANNOUNCER: Let's hear it
f-f-f-f-f-for the New Kids...
454
00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:07,346
on...the Block!
-["My Favorite Girl" playing]
455
00:19:07,413 --> 00:19:09,516
We were playing every night
456
00:19:09,582 --> 00:19:11,884
in front of an audience
that was made for us,
457
00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:16,756
that no one really ever
thought about, Maurice included.
458
00:19:16,823 --> 00:19:20,527
* Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh,
oh-oh, oh-oh *
459
00:19:20,593 --> 00:19:22,761
* Oh, oh, oh-oh-oh *
460
00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:26,132
* The right stuff,
oh-oh, oh-oh-oh *
461
00:19:26,199 --> 00:19:27,700
NARRATOR:
Anchored by the hit single
462
00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:29,536
"You Got It (The Right Stuff),"
463
00:19:29,602 --> 00:19:32,003
the New Kids on the Block
had arrived.
464
00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:33,472
* The right stuff *
465
00:19:33,539 --> 00:19:35,575
* First kiss was
the sweet kiss *
466
00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:37,844
* Second kiss had a twist *
467
00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:40,447
* Third and your fourth kiss *
468
00:19:40,512 --> 00:19:42,281
* I don't wanna miss *
469
00:19:42,348 --> 00:19:43,950
By the summer of 1989,
470
00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:46,318
the New Kids
toured with Tiffany again...
471
00:19:46,385 --> 00:19:47,519
All right, what's it gonna be?
472
00:19:47,586 --> 00:19:49,855
New Kids on the Block
or Tiffany?
473
00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:52,791
...only this time, because of
their overwhelming popularity,
474
00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:54,794
they became the headliners.
475
00:19:54,861 --> 00:19:58,830
By the following summer,
I was opening up for them.
476
00:19:58,897 --> 00:20:01,500
The girls had just fallen
in love with their music,
477
00:20:01,567 --> 00:20:05,104
fallen in love with them,
and I'm kind of in the way.
478
00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:07,105
[laughs]
479
00:20:07,173 --> 00:20:10,809
-[screaming]
-* All that I needed was you *
480
00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:16,048
* In my life,
you're so right *
481
00:20:16,115 --> 00:20:17,584
[screaming]
482
00:20:17,650 --> 00:20:18,917
It's like
I remember getting onstage,
483
00:20:18,984 --> 00:20:21,019
and the first, like,
three songs,
484
00:20:21,086 --> 00:20:23,623
you couldn't see anything
'cause all the flashes...
485
00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:24,891
[imitates
camera shutters snapping]
486
00:20:24,957 --> 00:20:27,626
You know, it--
it was just blinding.
487
00:20:27,693 --> 00:20:29,729
And the screams, it's like,
488
00:20:29,796 --> 00:20:33,932
I don't--I don't even know if
the girls even heard the music,
489
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,436
heard anything we said
for the first three songs
490
00:20:37,503 --> 00:20:40,105
'cause they were so loud.
491
00:20:40,172 --> 00:20:41,641
-[screaming]
-* The right stuff *
492
00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:43,809
* You got the right stuff *
493
00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:45,778
* Baby *
494
00:20:45,845 --> 00:20:48,381
* Love the way you turn me on *
495
00:20:48,448 --> 00:20:50,383
[screaming continues]
496
00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:53,685
New Kids on the Block!
[screaming]
497
00:20:53,752 --> 00:20:56,588
This is your second album,
and I just wanna know what--
498
00:20:56,655 --> 00:20:58,924
what changes are there
from the debut album?
499
00:20:58,990 --> 00:21:02,028
It's us. It's not--the other
one wasn't too much us,
500
00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:04,596
and this is us.
-This is more real for us.
501
00:21:04,663 --> 00:21:06,333
I mean, this is where
we come from.
502
00:21:06,398 --> 00:21:07,567
"Hangin' Tough" was
503
00:21:07,634 --> 00:21:10,470
the commercial phenomenon
of 1989,
504
00:21:10,537 --> 00:21:12,439
spawning five top 10 hits
505
00:21:12,505 --> 00:21:14,473
and selling
over 8 million copies.
506
00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:15,974
Almost overnight,
507
00:21:16,041 --> 00:21:18,044
the boys from Boston
became superstars.
508
00:21:18,109 --> 00:21:20,846
[screaming]
509
00:21:20,913 --> 00:21:23,148
We'd be bored, you know,
in some town at the hotel.
510
00:21:23,214 --> 00:21:24,683
"Let's go to the mall."
511
00:21:24,750 --> 00:21:27,185
If you went by yourself,
you never had a problem.
512
00:21:27,252 --> 00:21:30,990
If you have, you know,
two of us, it gets bigger,
513
00:21:31,057 --> 00:21:33,425
and then if a third person
comes along, you're done.
514
00:21:33,492 --> 00:21:34,926
[screaming]
515
00:21:34,993 --> 00:21:37,229
They were scratching
and ripping my clothes off
516
00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:39,832
and yelling in my face.
517
00:21:39,898 --> 00:21:43,201
There was risk of serious
bodily injury back then.
518
00:21:43,269 --> 00:21:45,904
You think little girls aren't
strong. They're very strong.
519
00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:48,307
People knew where I lived.
They'd be at my house,
520
00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:50,576
and my mom's in the kitchen
with, like, 10 fans,
521
00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:52,612
just feeding them cookies.
522
00:21:52,679 --> 00:21:55,847
Once the fuse was lit,
the fuse was it.
523
00:21:55,914 --> 00:21:58,150
It was going,
and it was going big.
524
00:21:58,217 --> 00:22:00,386
There was no stopping.
525
00:22:00,452 --> 00:22:01,721
[screaming]
526
00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:03,490
It was, like,
really over the top,
527
00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:05,156
the adulation,
the excitement,
528
00:22:05,223 --> 00:22:08,961
and it was like, what are
we getting into? [laughs]
529
00:22:09,028 --> 00:22:11,897
On June 5, 1990,
the New Kids released
530
00:22:11,963 --> 00:22:13,700
their third album,
"Step by Step."
531
00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:15,734
* Step by step *
532
00:22:15,801 --> 00:22:18,336
The title track raced
to the top of the charts.
533
00:22:18,404 --> 00:22:21,240
It was the New Kids'
best-selling single to date,
534
00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:23,442
launching them
into international superstars.
535
00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:26,878
* Step by step, err...ah! *
536
00:22:26,945 --> 00:22:28,047
"Step by Step" around the world
537
00:22:28,114 --> 00:22:30,215
sold about
6 million-plus records,
538
00:22:30,281 --> 00:22:32,585
just that song, that single.
539
00:22:32,652 --> 00:22:34,554
* Step by step *
540
00:22:34,621 --> 00:22:36,989
* Ooh, baby *
541
00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:38,625
Now for just two weeks,
they've got the number one album
542
00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:40,026
in the country,
the number one single,
543
00:22:40,092 --> 00:22:42,060
and the hottest video
in the country, too.
544
00:22:42,127 --> 00:22:45,330
* Call it what you want, baby *
545
00:22:45,397 --> 00:22:47,700
***
546
00:22:47,767 --> 00:22:50,836
* Girl, I call it love *
547
00:22:50,903 --> 00:22:54,039
Their popularity was now
at an all-time high.
548
00:22:54,105 --> 00:22:56,075
You know, as a teenager,
549
00:22:56,142 --> 00:22:59,645
there's no preparation
for that level of fame.
550
00:22:59,711 --> 00:23:02,080
New Kids on the Block!
[screaming]
551
00:23:02,147 --> 00:23:06,184
Five guys, boyband,
they're a massive success.
552
00:23:06,251 --> 00:23:09,387
But when you can't, you know,
get up and go to the pool,
553
00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:11,057
or you can't go to the gym,
554
00:23:11,123 --> 00:23:13,893
and as soon as you walk out
the hotel, there's, "Aah!"
555
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,229
all these girls, it's a lot.
It really is a lot.
556
00:23:17,296 --> 00:23:20,932
[hysterical screaming]
557
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,201
They would knock at--
on your door,
558
00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:24,103
2 in the morning,
and they'd have, like,
559
00:23:24,170 --> 00:23:27,673
stuff written on their face
like, "I love Joe."
560
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,107
So they knew where we were at,
and, um,
561
00:23:29,174 --> 00:23:32,077
we came up to our floor,
and it was all five of us.
562
00:23:32,144 --> 00:23:33,378
And the door opened,
563
00:23:33,445 --> 00:23:35,682
and some girl
was standing there like this
564
00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:37,817
in front of the elevator,
and she went...
565
00:23:37,884 --> 00:23:39,551
DANNY: * Never gonna fall
in love again *
566
00:23:39,618 --> 00:23:44,856
Boom! [laughs] And she just--
she just fainted. She was okay.
567
00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:47,259
["I'll Be Loving You (Forever)"
intro playing]
568
00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:48,795
NARRATOR: While most of the guys
were enjoying
569
00:23:48,861 --> 00:23:50,896
the fandom of screaming girls,
570
00:23:50,962 --> 00:23:52,865
Jonathan Knight was struggling
in secret.
571
00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:55,567
JORDAN:
* I'm not that kinda guy *
572
00:23:55,634 --> 00:23:58,336
* Who can take a broken heart *
573
00:23:58,403 --> 00:24:00,740
Nobody knew I was gay.
574
00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:03,643
The '80s were crazy
for all gay people.
575
00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:07,145
Everything was just
so behind closed doors.
576
00:24:07,212 --> 00:24:11,116
* Just as long
as you want me to... *
577
00:24:11,182 --> 00:24:12,585
* Be *
578
00:24:12,652 --> 00:24:16,087
I remember, you know,
one night going to our manager
579
00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:22,094
and just saying, "I'm gay.
Like, what...like, help."
580
00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:27,599
Um, and his reply... [laughs]
was, "You can't tell anybody.
581
00:24:27,666 --> 00:24:31,369
You can't tell the guys. You--
Like, this cannot get out,
582
00:24:31,436 --> 00:24:35,607
or you're just gonna have
all this come crashing down."
583
00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:37,977
***
584
00:24:38,044 --> 00:24:39,945
Jonathan pushed on,
585
00:24:40,011 --> 00:24:42,548
playing the role
of a teenage heartthrob.
586
00:24:42,615 --> 00:24:43,883
You date
the good Catholic girls,
587
00:24:43,950 --> 00:24:45,718
and then you don't have
to sleep with them.
588
00:24:45,785 --> 00:24:48,487
* I think we're alone now *
589
00:24:48,555 --> 00:24:50,455
He even dated Tiffany.
590
00:24:50,522 --> 00:24:52,090
* Anyone around *
591
00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:54,125
Jon Knight and I were
boyfriend and girlfriend
592
00:24:54,192 --> 00:24:57,128
for about a little over
two and a half years.
593
00:24:57,195 --> 00:25:00,767
Tiffany--she's gonna kill me.
It was--It was--She knows now.
594
00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:03,335
-It started out really innocent.
-Kinda innocent.
595
00:25:03,402 --> 00:25:04,737
Just, we were just friends.
596
00:25:04,804 --> 00:25:06,305
It was a really good friendship.
597
00:25:06,372 --> 00:25:08,273
There was nothing ever dirty
about it.
598
00:25:08,339 --> 00:25:10,643
It was great. She's--
She's an awesome person.
599
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:14,780
He is my heart.
I still love him dearly,
600
00:25:14,846 --> 00:25:17,048
and he was
a great first boyfriend.
601
00:25:17,115 --> 00:25:20,787
As a person, I really,
you know, got him.
602
00:25:20,853 --> 00:25:22,188
What makes you the most nervous?
603
00:25:22,253 --> 00:25:24,222
Girls that I like
make me nervous.
604
00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:25,657
-Really?
-Like, that I really like.
605
00:25:25,724 --> 00:25:27,393
Yeah, I get nervous
with girls, too.
606
00:25:27,459 --> 00:25:29,662
***
607
00:25:29,729 --> 00:25:32,898
Pressured by fame to maintain
his pop star image,
608
00:25:32,964 --> 00:25:35,401
Jonathan also chose
to hide his sexuality
609
00:25:35,467 --> 00:25:37,302
from the other New Kids.
610
00:25:37,368 --> 00:25:41,140
I never really felt that
I would be rejected by them.
611
00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:44,009
I never felt I'd be rejected
by my family.
612
00:25:44,076 --> 00:25:47,378
It was the business aspect of it
that really was, like,
613
00:25:47,445 --> 00:25:48,748
you need to keep shut.
614
00:25:48,815 --> 00:25:51,983
You need to not be seen
going out to clubs,
615
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:54,486
and you know,
at such a young age,
616
00:25:54,552 --> 00:25:59,125
that's a lot of stress
to put on one person.
617
00:25:59,191 --> 00:26:02,828
I can imagine the pressure
of, like, holy shit,
618
00:26:02,894 --> 00:26:05,765
I'm in, like, a...a boyband.
619
00:26:05,832 --> 00:26:08,034
-[fans screaming in distance]
-Oh, God.
620
00:26:08,099 --> 00:26:11,938
"Girls were supposed to love us,
and here I am. I'm gay."
621
00:26:12,003 --> 00:26:15,307
It must have been...
really difficult.
622
00:26:15,374 --> 00:26:17,009
I never knew anything.
623
00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:19,144
I mean, we were boyfriend
and girlfriend.
624
00:26:19,211 --> 00:26:21,881
We never really talked
about anything like that.
625
00:26:21,948 --> 00:26:25,084
DONNIE: We just didn't know
what he was dealing with,
626
00:26:25,151 --> 00:26:26,986
how much it was impacting him.
627
00:26:27,053 --> 00:26:29,188
It was hard to tune into it
628
00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:33,592
because we were all feeling
different pressures ourselves.
629
00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:36,427
[screaming]
630
00:26:36,494 --> 00:26:40,231
You know, there was always
150 to 200 kids
631
00:26:40,298 --> 00:26:44,170
in front of my house
just waiting for us to show up.
632
00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:45,872
We each had our struggles
with it
633
00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:48,074
'cause we did want to still live
634
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:50,476
normal lives
when we weren't working.
635
00:26:50,541 --> 00:26:54,947
I continued to wanna go home
and hang out on the corner
636
00:26:55,013 --> 00:26:59,417
like any 16-year-old kid,
and that wasn't a possibility.
637
00:26:59,484 --> 00:27:00,987
***
638
00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:03,021
For years, there was
no escaping the spotlight
639
00:27:03,088 --> 00:27:04,957
for any of the New Kids.
640
00:27:05,023 --> 00:27:07,459
With over 150 products
in the marketplace,
641
00:27:07,526 --> 00:27:10,061
their faces
were literally everywhere.
642
00:27:10,128 --> 00:27:14,633
That's when it started to become
like a machine.
643
00:27:14,701 --> 00:27:19,070
You walk into a store and there
was, you know, marbles and...
644
00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:21,007
-Lunchboxes.
-The bed sheets.
645
00:27:21,073 --> 00:27:23,375
-New Kids on the Block cereal.
-Playing cards and...
646
00:27:23,442 --> 00:27:24,711
Cartoon.
647
00:27:24,777 --> 00:27:26,813
***
648
00:27:26,878 --> 00:27:30,048
The whole merchandise side
of things got out of control.
649
00:27:30,115 --> 00:27:32,651
I never thought it was
too much product out.
650
00:27:32,719 --> 00:27:34,686
I was sitting back thanking God
651
00:27:34,753 --> 00:27:36,689
that these millions
were flowing in.
652
00:27:36,756 --> 00:27:39,090
It happened so fast,
it was like a huge snowball
653
00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:41,292
going down the hill.
We just couldn't stop it.
654
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,631
It wasn't exactly the way
we wanted things to go.
655
00:27:45,698 --> 00:27:47,298
And you walk into a toy store,
656
00:27:47,365 --> 00:27:48,901
and there's these stuffed animal
dolls of you sitting there.
657
00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:53,172
But we were so young. It was
so hard to, like, know, really,
658
00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:56,342
what you could take control of
and really what you could say.
659
00:27:56,407 --> 00:27:58,344
By the time we--
660
00:27:58,410 --> 00:28:00,679
we said, okay, we gotta
start controlling this thing,
661
00:28:00,747 --> 00:28:02,280
it was too late.
662
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:05,550
We were just grinding
and grinding and grinding,
663
00:28:05,616 --> 00:28:07,385
just 'cause
our business manager's, like,
664
00:28:07,452 --> 00:28:09,154
"You're gonna make money here.
You're gonna make money there."
665
00:28:09,221 --> 00:28:11,390
And it was just like...
[groaning] ugh.
666
00:28:11,457 --> 00:28:15,493
And our spirits
weren't being refreshed.
667
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,864
Yeah, we're gonna send
this one out
668
00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:20,432
to all those nonbelievers
out there
669
00:28:20,499 --> 00:28:22,000
who've been trying to
put us down and keep us down
670
00:28:22,067 --> 00:28:23,869
for the past five years.
671
00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:25,403
JORDAN:
* We don't need your games *
672
00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:27,638
-By the end of 1990...
-We ain't going out like that.
673
00:28:27,705 --> 00:28:31,009
...as the New Kids released
a hip hop-infused remix album
674
00:28:31,076 --> 00:28:32,711
of their biggest hits,
they had earned
675
00:28:32,778 --> 00:28:36,582
an astonishing $115 million
in that year alone,
676
00:28:36,647 --> 00:28:39,718
beating out icons like
Michael Jackson and Madonna.
677
00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:41,586
* Somebody said somebody *
678
00:28:41,653 --> 00:28:43,789
* Worked too hard *
679
00:28:43,855 --> 00:28:45,324
When you're told
you're a millionaire,
680
00:28:45,391 --> 00:28:47,993
and you're like, 21, 20,
you know, and like,
681
00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:49,394
yeah, it was exciting.
682
00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:51,596
* Somebody said everybody's *
683
00:28:51,663 --> 00:28:53,865
* Gonna wait and see *
684
00:28:53,932 --> 00:28:57,202
* What's gonna be is gonna be *
685
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:59,905
No, I'll never forget
our financial advisor--
686
00:28:59,971 --> 00:29:02,407
he advised us to take care
of our parents
687
00:29:02,473 --> 00:29:04,309
and then put the rest
in the bank.
688
00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:06,979
That was the kind of advice
we were getting early on,
689
00:29:07,046 --> 00:29:09,448
so that kinda has stuck
with us.
690
00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:11,784
-JORDAN: * Yeah *
-DONNIE: Peace!
691
00:29:11,851 --> 00:29:13,219
***
692
00:29:13,285 --> 00:29:16,622
How many people can say
they retired their mom
693
00:29:16,688 --> 00:29:19,424
when they were 19, 20 years old?
694
00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:23,028
All the hard work she did
through all those years,
695
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:25,096
working nights, cleaning floors,
you know,
696
00:29:25,163 --> 00:29:27,834
taking any job she could
697
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,938
to help keep our family afloat
and raise nine kids, um...
698
00:29:32,003 --> 00:29:36,075
***
699
00:29:36,142 --> 00:29:38,076
You know, um...
700
00:29:38,144 --> 00:29:40,246
***
701
00:29:40,311 --> 00:29:43,915
How can I complain about
missing out on what typical
702
00:29:43,982 --> 00:29:48,586
"teenage life" is when I was
able to take care of my mom?
703
00:29:48,653 --> 00:29:49,822
[fans screaming,
"The Right Stuff" intro plays]
704
00:29:49,888 --> 00:29:51,423
That same year they launched
705
00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:53,859
their most extravagant
live show to date--
706
00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:55,794
the "Magic Summer" tour.
707
00:29:55,862 --> 00:30:00,098
We're huge. We got all the cash
in the world now to spend.
708
00:30:00,165 --> 00:30:03,501
Coca-Cola's sponsoring it.
It's in stadiums.
709
00:30:03,568 --> 00:30:08,140
The sold-out stadiums brought
big-time status to the New Kids,
710
00:30:08,207 --> 00:30:09,674
but even though they were
filling seats,
711
00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:13,880
their inspiration onstage
was fading.
712
00:30:13,945 --> 00:30:16,281
* Worked too hard *
713
00:30:16,347 --> 00:30:17,715
We were so disconnected
from the audience.
714
00:30:17,782 --> 00:30:20,519
I mean, there were people,
like, a mile away,
715
00:30:20,586 --> 00:30:23,890
way, way up high, and it just--
it was awful.
716
00:30:23,955 --> 00:30:25,857
-[fans screaming]
-JORDAN: * Yeah *
717
00:30:25,924 --> 00:30:28,826
I think there is such a thing
as being too popular,
718
00:30:28,894 --> 00:30:32,663
and I really think that
that's what happened to us.
719
00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:38,971
[loud screaming]
720
00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:41,573
By 1991,
the New Kids on the Block
721
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,175
were one of the biggest acts
in the world.
722
00:30:44,242 --> 00:30:46,045
Their fans worshiped them,
723
00:30:46,112 --> 00:30:48,614
but music critics
weren't impressed.
724
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,815
Back in the day,
we took a lot of hits
725
00:30:49,882 --> 00:30:52,884
for singing bubblegum songs,
726
00:30:52,951 --> 00:30:56,154
not really adding anything
to the music world
727
00:30:56,221 --> 00:30:57,923
except for a bunch
of screaming girls.
728
00:30:57,990 --> 00:31:02,094
Donnie really was the one
that took it really personally
729
00:31:02,161 --> 00:31:07,066
and made it his mission
to lash back at these people.
730
00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:09,434
I don't know how much you guys
really care at this point
731
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:11,603
about critical acceptance.
732
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:12,871
I mean, I think
everyone in the world
733
00:31:12,939 --> 00:31:15,074
cares about how people
feel about them.
734
00:31:15,141 --> 00:31:16,909
Billy Idol makes
a lot of jokes about us.
735
00:31:16,976 --> 00:31:19,077
To me, I just don't understand
why a 40-year-old man
736
00:31:19,144 --> 00:31:22,681
would spend
so much energy on us.
737
00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:24,316
"Step By Step" was a failure?
It sold 5 million copies.
738
00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:26,352
What--What kind of failure
is that?
739
00:31:26,417 --> 00:31:30,189
When I was 21 years old,
I was mad at the criticism.
740
00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:32,324
When I was 38 in the original
"Behind the Music,"
741
00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:37,663
I was...trying to explain why
I was mad about the criticism.
742
00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:41,700
The criticism was just
overwhelming to me.
743
00:31:41,767 --> 00:31:44,769
I really didn't have the makeup
to ignore it.
744
00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:46,372
You know,
I don't think he was wired
745
00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:49,107
to handle it any differently.
746
00:31:49,174 --> 00:31:52,877
He grew up in Dorchester.
It was a tough neighborhood.
747
00:31:52,944 --> 00:31:56,082
You know, I'm 51 now, and I
love the criticism anyway now.
748
00:31:56,147 --> 00:31:59,285
You know, it's like
that's where I'm at.
749
00:31:59,351 --> 00:32:01,519
I don't hear criticism.
750
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:05,223
Donnie's image as a bad boy
was fueled even more
751
00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:07,925
in March 1991
when he was arrested
752
00:32:07,993 --> 00:32:11,630
for allegedly setting
a hotel room on fire.
753
00:32:11,696 --> 00:32:14,299
To give us a day off
in Louisville, Kentucky,
754
00:32:14,365 --> 00:32:15,834
is a mistake.
755
00:32:15,901 --> 00:32:17,202
There's nothing to do there,
so, like,
756
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:18,569
Donnie just sprayed
757
00:32:18,636 --> 00:32:19,904
the fire extinguisher
in his room,
758
00:32:19,971 --> 00:32:22,941
and it was just a prank
'cause he was bored.
759
00:32:23,009 --> 00:32:26,711
He's covered in white powder,
his whole room, him.
760
00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:29,914
I didn't light a fire.
I didn't do any such thing.
761
00:32:29,981 --> 00:32:32,384
In fact, I did the opposite
of light a fire.
762
00:32:32,451 --> 00:32:34,153
But the press reported
a different story.
763
00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:37,655
MALE REPORTER: Investigators say
it happened around 2 a.m.
764
00:32:37,722 --> 00:32:39,224
Is this thing being blown
out of proportion?
765
00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:40,726
Yes, sir, very much so.
766
00:32:40,791 --> 00:32:42,394
NARRATOR: The charges
were eventually dropped,
767
00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:45,163
but for the New Kids,
the story became legend.
768
00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:47,333
MALE REPORTER: Judge Jim Green
did not let Wahlberg go
769
00:32:47,398 --> 00:32:48,866
without getting an autograph
770
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:51,237
and telling the pop singer
to be careful.
771
00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:53,005
I always felt trapped in hotels.
772
00:32:53,072 --> 00:32:55,673
I always would do
mischievous things,
773
00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:58,076
just because I was bored
and frustrated in hotels.
774
00:32:58,144 --> 00:33:00,846
That I couldn't go out
and do everyday stuff
775
00:33:00,912 --> 00:33:02,580
doesn't mean I have
the right to, like,
776
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:06,051
leave my hotel room
like a trash heap.
777
00:33:06,117 --> 00:33:09,654
In some ways, it had to happen
for me to grow up a little bit.
778
00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:11,123
Say, oh, oh!
779
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:12,691
NARRATOR:
Donnie's badass attitude
780
00:33:12,758 --> 00:33:15,294
ignited a spark
in the New Kids' spirit,
781
00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:18,396
when a relentless touring
schedule began to smother them.
782
00:33:18,463 --> 00:33:19,897
You know, there was a time where
they were just pushing us,
783
00:33:19,964 --> 00:33:21,267
pushing us, pushing us.
784
00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:23,134
We were so hot,
785
00:33:23,201 --> 00:33:26,738
so blazing hot
that we had no time.
786
00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:29,907
We would end a tour.
They'd think of a new name
787
00:33:29,974 --> 00:33:32,577
for another tour and just
throw us back out there again.
788
00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:35,247
***
789
00:33:35,314 --> 00:33:36,882
We were going just so fast.
790
00:33:36,948 --> 00:33:40,185
We were working
362 days of the year.
791
00:33:40,251 --> 00:33:42,988
When we would come off tour,
I wouldn't go home.
792
00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:45,356
I would go to Boston
and check into a hotel
793
00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:49,461
and not tell anybody
just so I could sit in silence
794
00:33:49,528 --> 00:33:51,529
and just, you know, be still.
795
00:33:51,596 --> 00:33:53,865
That's what I don't understand
about fame and all that stuff.
796
00:33:53,932 --> 00:33:55,967
You get all this fame
and all this money,
797
00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,470
and then you can't enjoy it.
798
00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:02,039
After nearly four years
of constant touring,
799
00:34:02,107 --> 00:34:04,942
conflicts began to arise
among friends.
800
00:34:05,009 --> 00:34:06,345
You start to get
on each other's nerves.
801
00:34:06,412 --> 00:34:09,414
I think we've all thrown blows
at each other.
802
00:34:09,481 --> 00:34:13,050
It was such a humongous thing
for--for a long period of time
803
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,353
and at such intensity
that, you know,
804
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:17,021
something had to give.
805
00:34:17,088 --> 00:34:20,826
There'd be times where we'd
walk down a hotel hallway,
806
00:34:20,891 --> 00:34:23,161
and like ships in the night,
not even say anything.
807
00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:28,567
We didn't have the coping skills
808
00:34:28,634 --> 00:34:31,637
and the patience
to understand each other
809
00:34:31,702 --> 00:34:34,505
and--and show support.
810
00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:38,210
By 1993, growing conflict
between the guys
811
00:34:38,277 --> 00:34:41,480
was not the only tension
within the New Kids' camp.
812
00:34:41,547 --> 00:34:43,315
After nearly a decade together,
813
00:34:43,382 --> 00:34:45,817
the band began to feel like
producer Maurice Starr
814
00:34:45,884 --> 00:34:48,253
was taking credit
for their success.
815
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,322
You know, pick up a magazine
and see him saying
816
00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:53,192
"Oh, they don't have
to have talent.
817
00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:55,793
They just need someone like me."
You know?
818
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:57,094
And the things he was saying,
819
00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:59,998
you know, just was not true
and not cool.
820
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:02,768
But we love him. We wouldn't
be here without him.
821
00:35:02,833 --> 00:35:05,403
We all made mistakes back then.
822
00:35:05,471 --> 00:35:08,873
Maurice is our brother,
and that'll never change.
823
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,942
I think he went through a phase,
you know?
824
00:35:11,009 --> 00:35:12,811
We were getting a lot
of attention.
825
00:35:12,878 --> 00:35:15,947
You know, he wanted to be
known as, you know,
826
00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:18,048
the guy that--
that did it all.
827
00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:19,418
No, I didn't do it all.
828
00:35:19,485 --> 00:35:21,920
If those guys did not have
the energy,
829
00:35:21,987 --> 00:35:23,722
if those guys
did not have the talent,
830
00:35:23,789 --> 00:35:25,990
if those guys didn't have
what it took,
831
00:35:26,056 --> 00:35:28,159
none of this would've
never happened.
832
00:35:28,226 --> 00:35:31,128
***
833
00:35:31,197 --> 00:35:33,398
Now in their 20s
and no longer kids,
834
00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:38,637
in 1994, the renamed "NKOTB"
released their fifth album,
835
00:35:38,704 --> 00:35:40,672
"Face the Music."
836
00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:42,373
***
837
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,675
We wanted to reinvent ourselves.
838
00:35:43,742 --> 00:35:46,677
We had just left
being signed to Maurice Starr,
839
00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:48,380
so we were kinda free.
840
00:35:48,447 --> 00:35:51,317
Like, we were grown up.
We're changing our name,
841
00:35:51,382 --> 00:35:54,585
and we're gonna do things
more how we wanna do it.
842
00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:57,322
It took us, like, two years
to put that record together.
843
00:35:57,389 --> 00:36:01,293
It was too long. It was
a struggle to get the songs
844
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,795
and just who were we
working with.
845
00:36:03,862 --> 00:36:05,496
***
846
00:36:05,563 --> 00:36:07,398
It didn't have the same feeling
847
00:36:07,465 --> 00:36:09,166
as when we had released
other stuff.
848
00:36:09,235 --> 00:36:10,668
The writing was kinda
already on the wall,
849
00:36:10,735 --> 00:36:14,273
like things were changing a bit
in the music business.
850
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:16,641
The band's mix
of a new producer,
851
00:36:16,708 --> 00:36:20,378
new music, and a new name
was not a winning combination.
852
00:36:20,445 --> 00:36:22,748
As their fans aged
into the grunge era
853
00:36:22,813 --> 00:36:24,483
of Nirvana and Pearl Jam,
854
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:28,619
"Face the Music" sold less
than 150,000 copies.
855
00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:31,956
People were becoming
so anti-pop.
856
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:35,025
You know, I felt that.
I felt that coming.
857
00:36:35,092 --> 00:36:37,896
Um...I was like,
I-I put in my time.
858
00:36:37,963 --> 00:36:40,931
This is as far as it's gonna go.
859
00:36:40,998 --> 00:36:43,668
Um, it--it's time to move on.
860
00:36:43,735 --> 00:36:48,106
With the pressure of launching
yet another tour,
861
00:36:48,172 --> 00:36:49,541
Jonathan questioned whether
862
00:36:49,608 --> 00:36:51,076
he wanted to be a part
of the group at all.
863
00:36:51,141 --> 00:36:53,077
He'd been hiding his sexuality
864
00:36:53,143 --> 00:36:56,382
and struggling with anxiety
for years.
865
00:36:56,447 --> 00:36:59,351
I had a secret to hide,
and, you know,
866
00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:03,255
by me leaving the group,
maybe would set me free,
867
00:37:03,322 --> 00:37:04,956
and I could just go live
my life.
868
00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:07,525
For Jon,
he didn't decide to leave.
869
00:37:07,592 --> 00:37:10,061
He wasn't in,
and it was back and forth.
870
00:37:10,128 --> 00:37:11,630
He's in. He's out.
He's in. He's out.
871
00:37:11,697 --> 00:37:14,333
So we decided to have a vote.
872
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,235
And we said, "All in favor
of Jon being out of the band,
873
00:37:17,302 --> 00:37:18,804
raise your hand."
874
00:37:18,869 --> 00:37:20,237
And three hands went up,
875
00:37:20,306 --> 00:37:22,940
and Jordan said,
"Majority rules."
876
00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:27,746
The day that they got on the bus
and left
877
00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:31,248
was, like, just--that was--
it killed me, you know?
878
00:37:31,317 --> 00:37:33,585
'Cause I just--I felt like
I let them down so bad.
879
00:37:33,652 --> 00:37:36,253
You know, there's a million ways
you could tell the story
880
00:37:36,322 --> 00:37:38,155
of why we broke up,
and, oh, Jon left.
881
00:37:38,222 --> 00:37:41,492
Like, Jon didn't leave.
The energy left. We all left.
882
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:43,661
* If you go away *
883
00:37:43,728 --> 00:37:44,963
* If you go away, girl *
884
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:47,032
* You're taking my heart
with you *
885
00:37:47,097 --> 00:37:48,666
* If you go away *
886
00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:53,338
Danny, Donnie, Jordan, and Joe
soldiered on, but not for long.
887
00:37:53,405 --> 00:37:55,172
They soon canceled
the rest of the tour.
888
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,742
And in June of 1994,
889
00:37:56,807 --> 00:37:59,878
their epic journey
officially came to an end.
890
00:37:59,945 --> 00:38:01,746
* I promise you the world *
891
00:38:01,813 --> 00:38:03,382
You know,
the fans weren't there.
892
00:38:03,449 --> 00:38:05,751
The demand wasn't there.
893
00:38:05,817 --> 00:38:11,722
The desire to go for another
few years wasn't there.
894
00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:17,463
[intro to "Tonight" playing]
895
00:38:17,528 --> 00:38:22,067
* Remember when we said,
"Girl, please don't go"? *
896
00:38:22,132 --> 00:38:23,601
After breaking up,
the New Kids went
897
00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:27,539
their separate ways into
new chapters of their lives.
898
00:38:27,606 --> 00:38:30,141
* For-eh-eh-eh-ever *
899
00:38:30,208 --> 00:38:32,610
But each of them struggled
as they transitioned
900
00:38:32,677 --> 00:38:36,047
from teenage superstars
to aimless adults.
901
00:38:36,114 --> 00:38:39,184
That's really when
it smacked me in my face
902
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:42,588
that here I am, 25 years old,
no career.
903
00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:44,021
I have no plans
904
00:38:44,088 --> 00:38:47,759
for what I'm gonna do
with the rest of my life.
905
00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:52,097
So I went into a really deep
depression at that time.
906
00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:54,231
It was like a big hangover.
907
00:38:54,298 --> 00:38:58,135
You know, I was a little
depressed because, you know,
908
00:38:58,202 --> 00:39:01,005
working and being creative
is what builds self-esteem,
909
00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:04,943
so when that goes away,
it's hard to handle.
910
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:07,813
I wanted to go and become
Donnie Wahlberg.
911
00:39:07,878 --> 00:39:10,081
You know, I wanted to go
do all these different things
912
00:39:10,148 --> 00:39:11,583
and be my own man.
913
00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:15,152
I wanted to just grow
into myself.
914
00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:18,789
When you're in a group,
you kinda have to fit in,
915
00:39:18,856 --> 00:39:20,925
and you can't fully be yourself.
916
00:39:20,992 --> 00:39:24,530
Every decision can be yours now.
917
00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:27,498
I think the difficult thing was
we weren't together as a group,
918
00:39:27,565 --> 00:39:30,402
but there was still that
love/hate for us out there,
919
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:33,505
so, you know, you still get
the jealous guys
920
00:39:33,572 --> 00:39:36,340
yelling somethin' at you
across the street or somethin',
921
00:39:36,407 --> 00:39:38,943
and, okay, man, we were--
we went away now.
922
00:39:39,010 --> 00:39:42,179
So you can, uh,
stop yelling at me.
923
00:39:42,246 --> 00:39:45,550
As they adapted to their
new lives out of the spotlight,
924
00:39:45,617 --> 00:39:49,420
the guys gradually began
to find themselves.
925
00:39:49,487 --> 00:39:51,255
I said, okay, this year,
I'm gonna figure out
926
00:39:51,322 --> 00:39:54,960
how to make $50,000,
and that was my goal.
927
00:39:55,025 --> 00:39:58,228
A friend of mine called me,
928
00:39:58,295 --> 00:40:00,097
saying,
"Do you wanna flip a house?"
929
00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:03,034
We did maybe two houses
our first year
930
00:40:03,101 --> 00:40:05,202
and just kept building on it.
931
00:40:05,269 --> 00:40:07,639
While Jonathan left
entertainment behind,
932
00:40:07,706 --> 00:40:09,907
Danny, Jordan, and Joey
all went on
933
00:40:09,974 --> 00:40:11,543
to release solo albums.
934
00:40:11,610 --> 00:40:14,079
Donnie found himself
in an entirely new career
935
00:40:14,144 --> 00:40:16,246
as an actor.
936
00:40:16,313 --> 00:40:18,650
After breakthrough roles
in "Ransom"
937
00:40:18,717 --> 00:40:20,117
and "The Sixth Sense,"
938
00:40:20,184 --> 00:40:22,820
Donnie immersed himself
in his acting career for years.
939
00:40:42,373 --> 00:40:45,309
* Stop, stop,
let me take a mental shot *
940
00:40:45,376 --> 00:40:48,045
I heard the song
"Click Click Click"
941
00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:51,215
and played it for Jordan
and Joey and Danny
942
00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:54,018
and got the reaction
that I had hoped for.
943
00:40:54,085 --> 00:40:57,322
I loved it, and that was
kinda the spark to
944
00:40:57,387 --> 00:40:59,791
get us back in the studio
and, you know,
945
00:40:59,858 --> 00:41:01,793
get the ball rolling.
946
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:04,563
* Click, click, click *
947
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:06,030
I just could picture us
singing it.
948
00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:07,898
It was what we were looking for.
949
00:41:07,965 --> 00:41:10,501
We're grown men, wanting to show
that different side of us,
950
00:41:10,568 --> 00:41:12,637
and it just--
the song suited that.
951
00:41:12,704 --> 00:41:16,641
JORDAN: * My camera loves...
you are fashion *
952
00:41:16,708 --> 00:41:19,577
"Click Click Click" was the one
that really stood out to me
953
00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:23,715
as something that, um,
could be a launch of our sound,
954
00:41:23,782 --> 00:41:25,416
our new sound.
955
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,485
When you're listening
and you get the chills,
956
00:41:27,552 --> 00:41:30,922
you get back in the studio,
and that kinda stuff is,
957
00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:32,257
you know, what it's all about.
958
00:41:32,322 --> 00:41:34,059
* And, girl *
959
00:41:34,125 --> 00:41:37,427
Honestly,
I felt enough time had passed
960
00:41:37,494 --> 00:41:43,134
for that kind of, uh, stigma
to fade away and go...
961
00:41:43,201 --> 00:41:44,469
"Where's the New Kids?"
962
00:41:44,536 --> 00:41:46,704
You know, I definitely
never thought
963
00:41:46,771 --> 00:41:49,340
anywhere along the way
that we would get back together.
964
00:41:49,407 --> 00:41:51,275
It had been 15 years
965
00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:53,612
since the New Kids
had recorded together,
966
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:56,547
and not everyone was convinced
it would work.
967
00:41:56,614 --> 00:42:00,385
There was a conversation
early on in the reunion of,
968
00:42:00,451 --> 00:42:02,487
you know, was Jon
gonna stay in the band?
969
00:42:02,554 --> 00:42:05,556
Jonathan was unsure
if he would still be crippled
970
00:42:05,623 --> 00:42:08,559
by the same anxiety that
plagued him while performing.
971
00:42:08,626 --> 00:42:13,931
It was a big decision to go back
and just lots of discussions
972
00:42:13,998 --> 00:42:17,302
of what it's gonna be like
and how it's gonna work.
973
00:42:17,367 --> 00:42:20,105
And eventually,
I felt comfortable enough.
974
00:42:20,170 --> 00:42:22,440
Like, we were grown up,
975
00:42:22,507 --> 00:42:25,943
and we're gonna do things
more how we wanna do it.
976
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:29,414
And I was like...let's go.
977
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,349
[intro to "Summertime" playing]
978
00:42:31,416 --> 00:42:33,083
JOE:
* It's now or never *
979
00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:37,054
In early 2008, the five guys,
now in their mid to late 30s,
980
00:42:37,121 --> 00:42:38,856
assembled for
their first recording session
981
00:42:38,923 --> 00:42:41,492
together since 1993.
982
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:46,231
Spiffy! Look who else
is spiffy today!
983
00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:47,532
-Whoa!
-What's up?
984
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,000
That first time
was really awkward.
985
00:42:49,067 --> 00:42:50,335
-How you doing?
-How's it going?
986
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,603
You can tell. I'm hugging Joe,
but it's like
987
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:54,739
"Hey, I don't know you
no more, man."
988
00:42:54,806 --> 00:42:55,773
[laughter]
989
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,407
I haven't seen Donnie
990
00:42:57,474 --> 00:42:59,510
in probably 10 years.
991
00:42:59,577 --> 00:43:00,811
I probably haven't seen Danny
992
00:43:00,878 --> 00:43:04,282
maybe once or twice
in the last 14 years.
993
00:43:04,349 --> 00:43:05,550
And Joe--
I've probably seen him once.
994
00:43:05,617 --> 00:43:07,251
I mean, I didn't know
what to expect.
995
00:43:07,318 --> 00:43:08,485
* Girl, you can bring
your crew *
996
00:43:08,552 --> 00:43:10,221
Yo, yo!
997
00:43:10,288 --> 00:43:11,588
* And I can bring mine, too *
998
00:43:11,657 --> 00:43:13,490
You didn't own it, Joe!
You fucked it up!
999
00:43:13,557 --> 00:43:15,827
I couldn't, I couldn't,
I couldn't.
1000
00:43:15,893 --> 00:43:17,929
You fucked it up, man.
What's up, dude?
1001
00:43:17,996 --> 00:43:20,431
There's nothing like
getting back in the studio
1002
00:43:20,498 --> 00:43:22,233
with the guys,
you know, that first time
1003
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:26,938
and cutting vocals and hearing
our, you know, vocals together.
1004
00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:28,606
We have our own sound,
1005
00:43:28,673 --> 00:43:31,275
and--and that's--
that's pretty cool.
1006
00:43:31,342 --> 00:43:34,344
It took a little bit to, like,
get back into that comfort zone
1007
00:43:34,411 --> 00:43:37,715
and to kinda realize,
you know, we've grown up,
1008
00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:39,016
but kinda
everyone's personalities
1009
00:43:39,083 --> 00:43:41,152
are still the same.
1010
00:43:41,219 --> 00:43:42,920
-[laughs]
-All right, guys.
1011
00:43:42,987 --> 00:43:44,188
-All right.
-Our first step together...
1012
00:43:44,255 --> 00:43:46,523
in 15 [bleep]damn years.
1013
00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:48,760
-Right.
-Uhh.
1014
00:43:48,827 --> 00:43:50,527
-[laughter]
-But your foot didn't tap.
1015
00:43:50,594 --> 00:43:52,630
-Lookin' just like the old days!
-I got two left feet!
1016
00:43:52,697 --> 00:43:53,931
DONNIE:
* Turn it up now *
1017
00:43:53,998 --> 00:43:55,432
["Dirty Dancing" playing]
1018
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:57,802
As the New Kids prepared
to announce the reunion...
1019
00:43:57,869 --> 00:44:00,871
To be back after all that time
in a rehearsal studio,
1020
00:44:00,938 --> 00:44:03,474
dancing again together,
it gave me chills.
1021
00:44:03,541 --> 00:44:06,043
...they wondered if their fans
would also return.
1022
00:44:06,110 --> 00:44:08,980
We came back hard.
1023
00:44:09,047 --> 00:44:10,014
We worked.
1024
00:44:10,081 --> 00:44:11,615
[applause]
1025
00:44:11,682 --> 00:44:15,585
Some of those old fights still
had residue on our reunion,
1026
00:44:15,652 --> 00:44:17,856
but I went to a lot of therapy,
1027
00:44:17,922 --> 00:44:22,592
and I remember really using
a lot of the lessons I'd learned
1028
00:44:22,659 --> 00:44:26,463
in the band--listening better,
talking less.
1029
00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:29,800
Do we really wanna take
this picture right now?
1030
00:44:29,867 --> 00:44:31,936
Before that first snap,
we could all walk away.
1031
00:44:32,003 --> 00:44:33,603
[laughter]
1032
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:37,507
To be fair, I definitely was
dipping my toe in the waters,
1033
00:44:37,574 --> 00:44:39,344
check the temperature
of the water.
1034
00:44:39,409 --> 00:44:43,380
But I didn't care. I didn't...
1035
00:44:43,447 --> 00:44:46,918
have any fear
that it wasn't going to work.
1036
00:44:46,985 --> 00:44:48,085
On three.
1037
00:44:48,152 --> 00:44:49,153
On three, "NYNUK."
One, two, three.
1038
00:44:49,219 --> 00:44:53,690
ALL: NYNUK!
1039
00:44:53,759 --> 00:44:57,327
-September 2nd. The Deluxe.
-Check this out.
1040
00:44:57,394 --> 00:44:59,396
Ah.
1041
00:44:59,463 --> 00:45:02,032
In September of 2008,
1042
00:45:02,099 --> 00:45:04,235
15 years since their last album
together,
1043
00:45:04,302 --> 00:45:06,670
the New Kids released
"The Block"
1044
00:45:06,737 --> 00:45:08,739
and launched a national tour.
1045
00:45:08,806 --> 00:45:12,010
* If you ain't got no money,
if you ain't got no money *
1046
00:45:12,077 --> 00:45:14,079
We had this lift at the back
of the stage.
1047
00:45:14,144 --> 00:45:15,847
-It just lifted us up.
-[fans screaming loudly]
1048
00:45:15,914 --> 00:45:19,617
The sound was...
it was deafening.
1049
00:45:19,684 --> 00:45:23,253
It--It sounded like a 747.
It was out of control.
1050
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,489
* Everybody in the club
right now *
1051
00:45:24,554 --> 00:45:26,925
* Just tell the DJ
to turn it loud *
1052
00:45:26,992 --> 00:45:28,760
* Dedicate, man,
your favorite song *
1053
00:45:28,827 --> 00:45:30,360
* Single ladies,
you can't go wrong *
1054
00:45:30,427 --> 00:45:33,630
I'd never felt that
in all our years.
1055
00:45:33,697 --> 00:45:36,067
There was history
in those screams.
1056
00:45:36,134 --> 00:45:39,170
* Don't matter,
'cause you're here now *
1057
00:45:39,237 --> 00:45:42,840
* And the music
you're enjoying *
1058
00:45:42,907 --> 00:45:45,242
It was... [laughs]
1059
00:45:45,309 --> 00:45:50,380
...the most amazing feeling
I have ever felt in my life.
1060
00:45:50,447 --> 00:45:53,952
It was...it just...whoa.
1061
00:45:54,018 --> 00:45:57,021
Back in that moment.
It was...Yeah.
1062
00:45:57,088 --> 00:46:00,257
It was just so--
It was so special.
1063
00:46:00,324 --> 00:46:02,659
* Until the song goes off *
1064
00:46:02,726 --> 00:46:07,364
It was immediately apparent that
their fans had gone nowhere.
1065
00:46:07,431 --> 00:46:10,936
We just wanna thank all of you
for all the love
1066
00:46:11,001 --> 00:46:12,670
over all the years.
1067
00:46:12,737 --> 00:46:13,771
Thank you. Thank you so much.
1068
00:46:13,838 --> 00:46:16,673
This one is for y'all.
1069
00:46:16,740 --> 00:46:18,443
* I'm not that kinda guy *
1070
00:46:18,509 --> 00:46:22,012
Everybody has a child inside.
Everybody has an inner teenager.
1071
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,081
We get a little older,
1072
00:46:24,148 --> 00:46:27,251
but the feelings never,
ever die.
1073
00:46:27,318 --> 00:46:30,922
And that's what we represent
to our fans.
1074
00:46:30,989 --> 00:46:33,423
* Now let me hear you say *
1075
00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:38,795
FANS:
* I'll be loving you forever *
1076
00:46:38,864 --> 00:46:40,364
Whoo!
1077
00:46:40,431 --> 00:46:42,166
The boys were blown away
by the emotion they felt
1078
00:46:42,233 --> 00:46:44,068
being onstage together again.
1079
00:46:44,135 --> 00:46:46,403
It was
a much, much deeper connection.
1080
00:46:46,471 --> 00:46:48,005
It was
a much deeper understanding
1081
00:46:48,072 --> 00:46:50,208
of how important we were
to each other.
1082
00:46:50,275 --> 00:46:53,043
We all really needed
each other again.
1083
00:46:53,110 --> 00:46:58,115
* You, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh *
1084
00:46:58,182 --> 00:47:01,552
It's pretty amazing.
It really is.
1085
00:47:01,619 --> 00:47:03,088
I was comfortable with myself,
1086
00:47:03,153 --> 00:47:08,893
and here I am back
with these four guys
1087
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,262
that have been in my life
since I was a kid.
1088
00:47:12,329 --> 00:47:16,766
[fans screaming]
1089
00:47:16,833 --> 00:47:19,170
Over the years, Jonathan had
grown more comfortable
1090
00:47:19,237 --> 00:47:20,905
with his sexuality.
1091
00:47:20,972 --> 00:47:23,773
His family and the band
knew he was gay,
1092
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,443
but he hadn't made a point
of revealing it to the public
1093
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:30,882
until 2009 when the tabloid
press threatened to out him.
1094
00:47:30,949 --> 00:47:32,682
I was dating my husband then,
1095
00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:35,485
and I got a call
from my publicist.
1096
00:47:35,552 --> 00:47:40,690
She said that an ex of yours
is about to release pictures
1097
00:47:40,757 --> 00:47:42,427
to the "National Enquirer."
1098
00:47:42,492 --> 00:47:44,394
***
1099
00:47:44,461 --> 00:47:48,166
And it just got to be like,
enough is enough.
1100
00:47:48,233 --> 00:47:50,268
Jonathan decided to release
a public statement
1101
00:47:50,335 --> 00:47:53,371
revealing he was gay.
1102
00:47:53,438 --> 00:47:56,474
The fans totally accepted it,
and we just thought,
1103
00:47:56,541 --> 00:48:00,710
it makes the group better.
It makes the group...richer.
1104
00:48:00,777 --> 00:48:05,382
One of the truly special things
for me is watching him
1105
00:48:05,449 --> 00:48:10,320
take ownership of who he is
and being at peace with that,
1106
00:48:10,387 --> 00:48:14,259
not just as a gay man
but as a performer.
1107
00:48:14,324 --> 00:48:16,226
I started to realize early on
1108
00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:18,496
in the second incarnation
of the band
1109
00:48:18,563 --> 00:48:25,103
that the fans saw themselves
more in Jon than in any of us.
1110
00:48:25,170 --> 00:48:27,271
TIFFANY: It's never changed
how I look at him.
1111
00:48:27,338 --> 00:48:29,907
People were like,
"How do you feel?"
1112
00:48:29,974 --> 00:48:31,909
I'm like, how do I feel
about what?
1113
00:48:31,976 --> 00:48:34,144
That my friend is gay?
1114
00:48:34,211 --> 00:48:37,581
I feel he's fabulous.
That's how I feel. End of story.
1115
00:48:37,648 --> 00:48:40,217
[laughs]
1116
00:48:40,284 --> 00:48:45,222
Just made me so happy
how far society has come
1117
00:48:45,289 --> 00:48:50,128
to realize, you know,
everybody's the same.
1118
00:48:50,195 --> 00:48:52,030
We're just a little different.
1119
00:48:52,097 --> 00:48:55,900
***
1120
00:48:55,967 --> 00:48:56,867
Jonathan is now married.
1121
00:48:56,934 --> 00:49:00,304
Rainbow!
1122
00:49:00,371 --> 00:49:01,039
Cheetahs.
1123
00:49:01,106 --> 00:49:05,210
Rainbow...cats?
1124
00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:07,844
And all of the New Kids
have grown into family men.
1125
00:49:07,911 --> 00:49:10,014
Jordan and Joey also married
and had kids.
1126
00:49:10,081 --> 00:49:12,349
Danny is a grandfather,
1127
00:49:12,416 --> 00:49:14,485
and Donnie found
the love of his life
1128
00:49:14,552 --> 00:49:16,721
when he married
actress Jenny McCarthy.
1129
00:49:16,786 --> 00:49:19,023
I now pronounce you
to be husband and wife.
1130
00:49:19,090 --> 00:49:20,690
Donnie, you may now
kiss your bride.
1131
00:49:20,757 --> 00:49:22,159
[laughter]
1132
00:49:22,226 --> 00:49:25,963
My journey with Jenny
is in some ways similar
1133
00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:28,166
to my journey through music.
1134
00:49:28,233 --> 00:49:31,068
Every day, I woke up
thinking about the band,
1135
00:49:31,135 --> 00:49:33,103
thinking
about moving it forward.
1136
00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:34,338
It was part of who I was,
1137
00:49:34,405 --> 00:49:37,141
and the same thing
happened with Jenny.
1138
00:49:37,208 --> 00:49:39,309
***
1139
00:49:39,376 --> 00:49:42,713
[intro to "The Right Stuff"
playing, fans screaming]
1140
00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:46,451
That wisdom and mature outlook
has allowed the New Kids
1141
00:49:46,516 --> 00:49:49,420
to defy the odds
a second time around.
1142
00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:51,289
To date, their reunion tours
1143
00:49:51,356 --> 00:49:53,891
have grossed
more than $250 million
1144
00:49:53,958 --> 00:49:58,163
and given them the opportunity
to fulfill a lifelong dream.
1145
00:49:58,228 --> 00:50:01,831
* Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh,
oh-oh, oh-oh *
1146
00:50:01,898 --> 00:50:03,268
* Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh *
1147
00:50:03,333 --> 00:50:05,835
There are no words to describe
playing Fenway Park.
1148
00:50:05,902 --> 00:50:08,773
It's sacred ground,
so to play a concert there
1149
00:50:08,838 --> 00:50:13,378
is beyond, really, the scope
of what the mind can imagine.
1150
00:50:13,443 --> 00:50:15,380
* First time was a great time *
1151
00:50:15,445 --> 00:50:16,880
* Second time was a blast *
1152
00:50:16,947 --> 00:50:18,849
* Third time I fell in love *
1153
00:50:18,916 --> 00:50:20,016
* Now I hope it lasts *
1154
00:50:20,085 --> 00:50:22,487
* You got the right stuff, ha *
1155
00:50:22,552 --> 00:50:24,855
For five guys that grew up
in that city,
1156
00:50:24,922 --> 00:50:27,092
rooting for the Red Sox,
1157
00:50:27,157 --> 00:50:30,128
it doesn't get any bigger
or better than that.
1158
00:50:30,195 --> 00:50:34,132
Also as adults, the New Kids
redefined their relationship
1159
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:35,800
with their fans.
1160
00:50:35,865 --> 00:50:38,735
And their annual NKOTB cruise
1161
00:50:38,802 --> 00:50:40,804
is one of their favorite ways
to connect.
1162
00:50:40,871 --> 00:50:45,976
Every cruise, every song,
every single opportunity
1163
00:50:46,043 --> 00:50:49,780
to connect with the fans
is an opportunity
1164
00:50:49,847 --> 00:50:52,949
to bring happiness,
not just to them but to me.
1165
00:50:53,016 --> 00:50:55,920
* You're still my '80s girl *
1166
00:50:55,985 --> 00:50:58,755
It's the best time ever.
I mean, a lot has changed,
1167
00:50:58,822 --> 00:51:02,293
just our personal relationship
with fans.
1168
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,163
You could talk to people
and ask them
1169
00:51:05,230 --> 00:51:06,231
normal, grown-up questions
1170
00:51:06,297 --> 00:51:08,199
instead of them just,
you know,
1171
00:51:08,266 --> 00:51:10,067
reaching out
to rip your hair out.
1172
00:51:10,135 --> 00:51:14,003
TIFFANY: * It's like we never
even left at all *
1173
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:16,240
We've all just grown and matured
1174
00:51:16,306 --> 00:51:19,677
and have learned, I think,
to stay very present
1175
00:51:19,744 --> 00:51:21,679
and stay very grateful.
1176
00:51:21,746 --> 00:51:24,949
My connection with our fans
and being part of this band,
1177
00:51:25,014 --> 00:51:26,684
it's why I'm on this planet,
1178
00:51:26,751 --> 00:51:30,387
is to be part of this experience
and part of this love.
1179
00:51:31,521 --> 00:51:33,190
[intro to "Thankful" playing]
1180
00:51:33,257 --> 00:51:35,492
Now well into their 40s and 50s,
1181
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:38,563
the New Kids are far
from old men,
1182
00:51:38,628 --> 00:51:40,565
but they are wise enough
to strike the right balance
1183
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:43,367
between their careers
and their personal lives.
1184
00:51:43,434 --> 00:51:46,271
I would do anything
for any guy in the group
1185
00:51:46,336 --> 00:51:49,173
and have so much respect
and love for them.
1186
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,242
I just--I feel lucky just
to have them in my life.
1187
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:53,811
I think we can keep doing
what we're doing,
1188
00:51:53,878 --> 00:51:57,114
uh, you know,
as long as the fun is there,
1189
00:51:57,181 --> 00:51:58,516
as long as the spirit's there,
1190
00:51:58,583 --> 00:52:00,951
as long as the camaraderie
is there.
1191
00:52:01,018 --> 00:52:05,054
DONNIE: * I saw a flicker
of light in the darkness *
1192
00:52:05,121 --> 00:52:06,291
I think with maturity,
1193
00:52:06,356 --> 00:52:09,594
you learn to focus
on what's important.
1194
00:52:09,659 --> 00:52:15,400
Doing this again and continuing
to do this with family,
1195
00:52:15,465 --> 00:52:18,835
of course it changes everything.
1196
00:52:18,902 --> 00:52:20,637
JORDAN: * And when
there's no one around *
1197
00:52:20,704 --> 00:52:23,608
* I know I'm not alone, baby *
1198
00:52:23,673 --> 00:52:27,378
These are my four brothers.
It's a massive gift,
1199
00:52:27,445 --> 00:52:29,614
and I wring every drip
out of it.
1200
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:34,719
I hope we all continue doing
things in life that we love.
1201
00:52:34,784 --> 00:52:37,121
It's just the best thing
in the world.
1202
00:52:37,188 --> 00:52:38,289
DONNIE: * Oh, whoa *
1203
00:52:38,356 --> 00:52:39,824
JORDAN:
* Baby, 'cause you *
1204
00:52:39,889 --> 00:52:42,659
-* You're holding me up *
-DONNIE: * Yes, you do *
1205
00:52:42,726 --> 00:52:44,728
JORDAN: * You're holding me up,
and I am thankful *
1206
00:52:44,795 --> 00:52:46,764
DONNIE: * And I am thankful *
1207
00:52:46,831 --> 00:52:48,266
JORDAN:
* You're more than enough *
1208
00:52:48,333 --> 00:52:49,867
* You're more than enough *
1209
00:52:49,934 --> 00:52:54,003
You know, from the time we were
little boys till now as men,
1210
00:52:54,070 --> 00:52:55,840
we got each other's back,
1211
00:52:55,905 --> 00:52:58,041
and we're never walking
out there alone.
1212
00:52:58,108 --> 00:53:00,010
* Because of you *
1213
00:53:00,077 --> 00:53:03,380
* I am thankful, I am thankful *
1214
00:53:03,447 --> 00:53:05,650
DONNIE:
* Oh, oh, oh-oh-oh-oh *
1215
00:53:05,715 --> 00:53:08,985
I fully expect Jon and Jordan
and Danny and Joey
1216
00:53:09,052 --> 00:53:10,788
to be in my life forever.
1217
00:53:10,855 --> 00:53:13,891
JORDAN: * I am thankful,
thankful, thankful *
1218
00:53:13,958 --> 00:53:15,693
DONNIE: [whispers]
I'm so thankful.
1219
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,697
JORDAN: * I am thankful,
thankful, thankful, thankful *
1220
00:53:20,764 --> 00:53:26,771
[fans screaming]
1221
00:53:26,836 --> 00:53:28,606
* Second time was a blast *
1222
00:53:28,672 --> 00:53:32,443
* Third time I fell in love,
now I hope it lasts *
1223
00:53:32,510 --> 00:53:34,010
* You got the right stuff, ha *
1224
00:53:34,077 --> 00:53:36,646
-DONNIE: Oh!
-* Baby *
1225
00:53:36,713 --> 00:53:38,349
* Love the way you turn me on *
1226
00:53:38,416 --> 00:53:40,451
Ha!
1227
00:53:40,518 --> 00:53:41,751
* You got the right stuff *
1228
00:53:41,818 --> 00:53:44,054
-DONNIE: Hey!
-JORDAN: * Baby *
1229
00:53:44,121 --> 00:53:47,958
* You're the reason
why I sing this song *
1230
00:53:48,025 --> 00:53:49,626
* Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh *
1231
00:53:49,693 --> 00:53:52,630
* Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh *
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