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John Wilson:
Hey, New York.
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As we get older, we try
to hit certain milestones
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to feel like we're making
progress in life.
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Like, adopting your first pet;
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finally getting your own place;
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or starting an exciting
new career.
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These things
make us feel stable
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and help us forget
that the Grim Reaper is...
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al-- just always
one step behind us.
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But unfortunately,
this stability
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is sometimes
only an illusion.
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Because one day,
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when you're just hanging
out in your apartment,
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your landlord calls you
to come downstairs
to have a talk.
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It sounds pretty serious,
and your mind
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naturally goes to
the worst possible place.
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But, nothing could've
prepared you
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for what you are
about to hear.
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She tells you that
she's selling the building
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and moving to Las Vegas
by the end of the month.
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♪ ♪
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It really takes
you by surprise,
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but looking back,
you could see
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that there had been
signs everywhere,
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and you-you-you just
hadn't noticed them.
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You go through
a whirlwind of emotions.
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Shock,
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rage,
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sadness,
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panic,
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and finally acceptance.
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But just as you are
getting ready to move out,
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something happens that
you never even considered.
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She actually offers to sell
you the house if you want it
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for a price that's
below market value.
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It seems like
the deal of a lifetime,
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but you don't know
if you can
actu-actually afford it.
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The thought of
purchasing property
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had never even
crossed your mind,
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and the idea just
sounds kind of terrifying.
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You ask her to give you
a few days to think it over
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because you're not sure you're
ready for something like this.
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But instead of letting
an opportunity
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slip through your fingers,
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might as well
finally figure out
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if it's a good idea
to invest in real estate.
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Most people would
jump at the opportunity
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to own property in New York,
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but when you look back,
you realize
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you've actually structured
your whole life
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around avoiding
commitments like this.
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Before you found
your current place,
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you lived month-to-month
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in an illegally
converted warehouse
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with a bunch of
your good friends.
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A lot of the rooms
didn't have windows,
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so when it got really hot,
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you had to make your
own air conditioners
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out of ice jugs
and a, and a fan
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in a Styrofoam box.
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There were also rats that
lived in your garbage,
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and a vicious possum
in the backyard.
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They even shot a TV show
on your block once
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where they used your
street as a stand-in
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for war-torn Syria
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with very little set dressing.
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Hostiles on rooftop
up the street.
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Oh my god.
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Wilson:
Because you, you were
living there illegally,
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you were always expecting
to get kicked out.
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But, somehow,
that day never came,
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and you ended up staying
there for over seven years.
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♪ ♪
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You really liked feeling
untethered to any sense
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of responsibility
to the property,
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but you knew that you would
have to escape one day.
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Eventually.
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You originally found
this place on Craigslist
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a couple years ago.
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The pictures looked nice,
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but you could tell it
was the real deal from
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the alternating capital letters
in the subject heading.
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Your landlord is asking you for
$900,000 for the whole place,
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which is way more than
you actually have.
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That means you're gonna
have to borrow the money
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from somewhere else,
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and you guess most people
just get it from a bank.
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♪ ♪
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But a mortgage seems like
an extremely heavy burden
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for someone who's
afraid of commitment.
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It can take as long as
30 years to pay off,
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and you've never planned that
far ahead for anything before.
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And it's hard to tell if
you'll regret your decision
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once it's too late
to change your mind.
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You're also terrified
of getting ripped off,
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and, and for good reason.
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You recently went to buy a car
from someone off Craigslist,
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and it looked like a great deal
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with surprisingly low
mileage for its age.
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The seller seemed
a little nervous,
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but you didn't think anything
of it at the time. So,
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you signed the papers
and handed over the money.
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And he even helped you to
put on the license plate,
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which was nice.
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But when you got home
and started going through
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all the junk that
he left in the back,
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you found a second odometer,
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and it had a lot
more miles on it
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than the one behind
the steering wheel.
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When you brought the car
to a mechanic for a checkup,
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he took one look at
the odometer in the trunk,
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and told you it was probably
swapped out to fool you.
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It seemed like the car
wasn't lightly used,
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and you fell for it
like a, like a sucker.
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And if you're not careful,
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the same thing could
happen with the house.
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So, just like anything
you buy off Craigslist,
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just give it
a quick check first
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before you accept the offer.
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Just make sure it's sturdy.
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But when you start
to look around,
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you start to notice
other things that
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are wrong with the house
for the very first time.
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There are cracks
that are forming
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in the corners of each room.
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There's a big leak
coming from your ceiling,
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and you'll probably
have to get the roof fixed.
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Other parts of the house
are a millimeter away
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from a complete disaster.
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And you're also finally able
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to see the apartment
on the first floor,
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and the tiles in the bathroom
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look like something
awful had...
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uh, you thought it was...
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it looked like cum.
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And the house also seemed to
be sinking into the ground.
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And you realized that
you don't even know
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if this house is a good deal,
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and maybe you should see what
else is on the market first
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before you commit to anything.
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It's really fun
to get a glimpse
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into all these interiors
around New York City.
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You feel like
the Invisible Man,
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getting to be a voyeur
without any consequence.
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Even though it seems like some
people go through a lot of work
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to stay anonymous.
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But, you can only browse
on the internet for so long
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before you have to check
out places in person.
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So, in the bathroom, there's
no sink in the bathroom?
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Realtor:
Yeah, just the toilet.
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Yeah, just the toilet.
It's okay.
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Wilson:
And then you'll just use the
kitchen sink for the bathroom.
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Great location.
A lot of stuff over here.
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I'm really close
to east Williamsburg,
prime location.
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-Wilson: Sure.
-The price and everything,
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and it's manageable for
the right person, no?
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-Wilson: Yeah.
-It's affordable.
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So, it's been on
the market about 68 days.
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-Wilson: Sixty-eight days?
-Realtor: Yeah.
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Wilson:
Hey, I'm John.
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You're looking at
a one bedroom, two bath.
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Upstairs and downstairs.
It's hardwood floors.
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It's actually a lot of cabinets,
open space. You have a breast--
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Break-fist table over here.
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Wilson:
What made you want to
get into real estate?
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Actually, I've had
a passion for real estate
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since I was 16.
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-Wilson: So wait,
how old are you now?
-I'm 18 years old.
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Wilson:
You're... That's a...
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-You can be a real
estate agent at 18?
-Yes, you can.
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I took my real estate
exam three times.
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I just passed.
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-Wilson: Yeah.
-I just passed,
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so being a real estate
agent is not easy.
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Wilson: Nothing, uh,
in your, in your,
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in your price range
really excited you,
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but fortunately,
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they don't always
check your financials
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when you ask to see a place.
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So, try somewhere different.
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Wait, so how many
floors is this place?
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-Five.
-So, we're four stories--
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-No, plus basement.
-Five stories.
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Wilson:
So, like, why the...
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What's with the oval ceiling?
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Oh, it's just design.
I mean, it's a very...
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-sophisticated aesthetic.
-Here is the kitchen.
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-Handmade of walnut.
-Wilson: Oh my goodness.
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Realtor:
And again, the mosaic floor.
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Wilson:
How many steps
are in this house?
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Haven't counted.
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And the street that this is on
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is the most exclusive
street in all of Neponsit,
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so it's great to be on
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a very exclusive street in
a beautiful neighborhood.
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We gotta go to
master bedroom level.
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-Ready?
-Primary bedroom level.
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-Oh yeah, we're supposed
to say primary.
-I know we are.
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Wilson:
Primary? Why primary level?
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-Because...
-Because it's more
politically correct.
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-It's appropriate
to say primary...
-Wilson: Bedroom?
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...as opposed to master,
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even though we were
never masters of anybody.
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Wilson:
You can see the detail
in the pool from up here.
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-Uh-huh.
-It was inspired by
an Hermès scarf.
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-And if you like
entertaining, get ready.
-Yeah.
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This is a wonderful place
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to entertain because
the room has the width,
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and it also has a little
bit of a curvature.
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Wilson:
You're not really sure what
they mean by entertaining,
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but just to be safe,
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make sure you
have an act prepared
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if you're investing
in, uh, real estate.
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You looked at
a place in Harlem,
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and the current owner
showed you around.
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-How long has this
place been vacant?
-Um...
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Just about maybe...
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-six months.
-Wilson: The place
seemed really nice,
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but after the tour,
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she told you about
a little problem
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she had with the person
who lived here before.
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He did all kinds
of strange things.
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He stuffed a brush
down the toilet,
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so we had to replace
the entire toilet.
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He took a large mirror
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from the vestibule
and smashed it.
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He threw wine in the face
of one of the tenants.
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The fire department
had to come once.
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I had to buy all new appliances.
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He scaled the front
of our building
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with a knife
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and a switchblade.
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He would draw
pentagrams on the wall
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as well as on our front door.
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He was running around
naked with a moose head.
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He was trying to
summon the devil,
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and because I'm
a praying person,
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I wasn't having that.
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Wilson:
None of the places you saw
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really, ah,
felt quite right,
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and you're starting
to have doubts about
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investing in
real estate at all.
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But when you get back home,
your landlord starts
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showing you how to take care
of her plants in the backyard
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when she's gone.
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And it seems like she's
really depending on you
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to keep everything
the way she liked it.
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If she had to put
the building up for sale,
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she may have to let all those
real estate people come in
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and pick apart her entire life,
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and you'd probably
be kicked out.
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Or worse, they could
film another TV show here
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that isn't your show.
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So, no matter how unprepared
you are for this,
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you know it would
make her really happy
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if you were the one
that bought it. So,
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go to a mortgage broker
that your friend recommended
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to see how much, uh...
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mortgage, uh, you can get.
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Alright, so I got
your credit right now.
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So, you have phenomenal credit.
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-Wilson: Oh really?
-It's amazing.
What do you do for a living?
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Wilson:
Um, I-- I'm a documentarian.
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-Oh. Fun. Okay.
-Um...
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Like, it's kind of like,
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uh, memoir...
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essay...
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um...
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It takes place in New York.
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Do you have
any stocks and bonds
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or money in the market that you,
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like, you get residual
income off of?
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Wilson:
Um, I have one share
of Domino's Pizza.
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And, at that point,
the mortgage broker
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may begin to question
if you're actually
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financially stable enough.
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Whatever you're worried about,
we're worried about.
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-Wilson: Yeah...
-So, we don't wanna
lend to somebody
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who miraculously
got a huge project,
283
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and they never had
a project like this,
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and it will never happen again.
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We need to make sure
you're consistent.
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Wilson:
So you're gonna have
to come back another time
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with financial documents
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and any other proof
you can find
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that you'll keep making
money in the future.
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So when you get
back home, you start
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by drafting a letter as
part of your application.
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♪ ♪
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And then go to
your grandma's house
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because she keeps the clippings
of every review from your show
295
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that was in the newspapers,
296
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and you're sure that the bank
would like to see those.
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Grandma:
See? I got everything, Johnny.
298
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Grandma's not
so nutsy after all.
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Wilson:
And then compile all
the good reviews of your show
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into a packet that proves
everyone loves it,
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and hide the bad
reviews in a place
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that the mortgage broker
can never find them.
303
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HBO never gave you
any numbers about
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how many people are
watching your show,
305
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so you have no idea
what the ratings are.
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So, instead, you can
just start looking through
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people's windows to get
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the data yourself.
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You didn't see anyone
watching your show,
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but you did catch a few
minutes of "The Departed,"
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which was nice until, uh,
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they, until they
noticed you filming.
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Sorry!
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So, just don't
mention any numbers
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to the broker and bring
everything else.
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-So, these are some...
some reviews.
-Broker: Reviews.
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So, you're trying to
determine that these are--
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This is like your
proof of continuance?
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Wilson:
This is kind of... Would
this kind of help at all?
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No.
321
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Wilson:
None of the stuff you brought
really convinced her,
322
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but after she went through
the rest of your financials,
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she said that you, you
will actually qualify.
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On one condition.
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Broker:
I know we're using every
last dollar of yours
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-to purchase this,
but for right now...
-Wilson: Uh-huh.
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...you can't purchase this
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without a supplemental income.
329
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-Wilson: Without a tenant.
-Yeah.
330
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-Yeah.
-Wilson: Okay.
331
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So, if you wanna get
approved for a mortgage,
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it seems like
the only way is to
333
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rent out one of your units
334
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and become a landlord yourself.
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♪ ♪
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There are no two groups
more distinct from each other
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than landlords and tenants.
338
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And you're not sure you're
ready to switch teams.
339
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If you became a landlord,
340
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you would have
to be on call 24/7.
341
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Because if anything went wrong
in the middle of the night,
342
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you would be personally
responsible for fixing it.
343
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And if you rented
out your place,
344
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you would have no control over
345
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what kind of music
your tenants played.
346
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Or, or what kind of pets
they might sneak in.
347
00:16:11,236 --> 00:16:13,566
And they might throw
really weird parties.
348
00:16:14,873 --> 00:16:16,113
And if you're not careful,
349
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they might even try to
summon the devil himself.
350
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So, you might have to act
like a tough guy sometimes
351
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to stop things from
getting out of hand.
352
00:16:26,785 --> 00:16:30,585
But that's not a role you
really know how to play.
353
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Maybe if you rent
it out to someone
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that you could be friends with,
355
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uh, none of this stuff
would be a problem.
356
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The situation where you
interview a potential tenant
357
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is that they basically always
bring their best foot forward.
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They're very nice, very polite,
very kind, very courteous.
359
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But,
360
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sometimes, that has
a way of changing.
361
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Once they get the apartment,
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all that sweetness
goes out the window.
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-Wilson: These are all clients?
-Yeah, all these clients.
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All these cases are,
are sitting in court,
365
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-waiting for a court
date, you know?
-Wilson: Alright.
366
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What if I like
wanted to try
367
00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:20,343
to be friends
with my tenants?
368
00:17:20,406 --> 00:17:22,436
I feel sorry for you.
369
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Wilson:
Why's that?
370
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It doesn't work out.
Doesn't work out.
371
00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:30,120
I've been living
here five years.
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My landlord and I,
we have a great relationship.
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We kid around,
we don't have a problem.
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But I'm sure
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that the day
I don't pay my rent,
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that, that friendship
goes out the window.
377
00:17:44,696 --> 00:17:47,466
Wilson: So wait,
your landlord lives here?
378
00:17:47,533 --> 00:17:49,233
Yeah, yeah.
He's across the hall.
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Wilson: Oh really?
Could we talk to him?
380
00:17:50,903 --> 00:17:52,943
-Yeah, let me just go get him.
-Wilson: Oh, okay.
381
00:17:57,109 --> 00:17:59,849
Quick Evic Owner:
He's asking me is it possible
382
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to be friends with the landlord.
383
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Landlord:
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-Quick Evic: Come on! Come on.
-Landlord: I don't
wanna be on that shit!
385
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Wilson:
I just wanted to see if
you wanted to talk about
386
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-how you have
a nice relationship.
-Landlord: No, no, no.
387
00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:15,060
-Quick Evic: Okay,
his question is--
-Landlord: You doing that?!
388
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Wilson:
No, no. The light--
Sorry, the light is off.
389
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You gotta take the emotion
out of the equation.
390
00:18:20,532 --> 00:18:22,802
If you're gonna be a landlord,
be a landlord.
391
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If you're gonna be
a friend, be a friend,
392
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but you can't be both.
393
00:18:27,206 --> 00:18:28,766
Wilson:
Maybe he was right.
394
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Maybe you can't be two
people at the same time.
395
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♪ ♪
396
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You always thought
your landlord
397
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struck the perfect balance,
398
00:18:37,082 --> 00:18:40,052
but even she got to be
a little suffocating.
399
00:18:40,118 --> 00:18:42,518
And after a while,
you kinda wished
400
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you could just wash
your own underwear.
401
00:18:46,191 --> 00:18:48,731
Maybe the secret to a good
relationship with your tenants
402
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is to have as much distance
between you as possible.
403
00:18:52,197 --> 00:18:53,997
My name is John,
404
00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:56,866
and I am a,
405
00:18:56,935 --> 00:19:00,305
what's called, a land baron
in "Second Life."
406
00:19:00,372 --> 00:19:01,842
I've got a real estate office,
407
00:19:01,907 --> 00:19:04,577
and when people
teleport into the office,
408
00:19:04,643 --> 00:19:06,853
they can look at pieces of land
409
00:19:06,912 --> 00:19:09,382
and talk to an agent
and figure out
410
00:19:09,448 --> 00:19:11,118
which island
they want to buy, or.
411
00:19:11,183 --> 00:19:13,393
Yeah, here we are.
412
00:19:13,452 --> 00:19:16,892
This is my office.
This is the director, Lorak.
413
00:19:16,955 --> 00:19:19,415
Every single avatar,
there's another real person
414
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-on the other end.
-Wilson: Oh, she's...
415
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,400
-Wait, so is this
like a 9-to-5?
-John: Yeah.
416
00:19:23,462 --> 00:19:25,202
Wilson:
So, she has to stand there?
417
00:19:25,264 --> 00:19:28,304
-John: Um... yeah.
-Wilson: Eight hours a day?
418
00:19:28,367 --> 00:19:30,867
And she's saying,
"Good to see you, sir."
419
00:19:30,936 --> 00:19:34,236
-Wilson: Oh.
-So, that was really sweet
of her. And she's really...
420
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really attractive.
421
00:19:36,708 --> 00:19:38,708
-Just really nice.
-Wilson: Yeah.
422
00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:40,877
John:
She's really...
gorgeous.
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00:19:40,946 --> 00:19:43,846
Wilson:
So how much does a month
of rent at a property cost?
424
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Four hundred, U.S.
425
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-Wilson: Four hundred
U.S. dollars?
-Yes.
426
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For a smaller property, 125.
427
00:19:50,155 --> 00:19:52,885
Occasionally, we'll get
a tenant that doesn't pay,
428
00:19:52,958 --> 00:19:55,458
and we'll have to go
429
00:19:55,527 --> 00:19:59,197
and talk with him,
and eventually evict them,
430
00:19:59,264 --> 00:20:02,404
which I really don't like
to do. I try not to do.
431
00:20:02,467 --> 00:20:05,497
Then they'll explain like,
"Oh, my cat had surgery,
432
00:20:05,571 --> 00:20:07,311
and I can't pay this
month, so just--"
433
00:20:07,372 --> 00:20:10,342
-Wilson: Wait, their real
cat got surgery or--
-John: Yeah.
434
00:20:10,409 --> 00:20:11,839
Wilson:
So it's a lot like
435
00:20:11,910 --> 00:20:14,180
getting physically
evicted from a real place.
436
00:20:14,246 --> 00:20:16,276
It is, and it can
be as traumatic,
437
00:20:16,348 --> 00:20:19,548
and I really feel
for the people
438
00:20:19,618 --> 00:20:21,648
that, that we do this to.
439
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,120
I've had several
threaten to sue me
440
00:20:24,189 --> 00:20:26,589
in real-life court,
441
00:20:26,658 --> 00:20:28,688
and I've had other
kind of threats,
442
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,230
and if there's
any way to avoid it,
I would love to do it,
443
00:20:31,296 --> 00:20:33,526
but it does--
it does hurt.
444
00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:35,599
Where does the empathy stop,
445
00:20:35,667 --> 00:20:37,337
and the rubber meet the road?
446
00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:38,602
Where do you have to,
you know,
447
00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:41,440
draw a line in the sand
and go out of business
448
00:20:41,506 --> 00:20:44,006
over someone's feelings?
449
00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:45,706
♪ ♪
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Wilson:
Maybe, no matter what
reality you're in,
451
00:20:48,714 --> 00:20:51,084
being a landlord is
always going to cost you
452
00:20:51,149 --> 00:20:53,389
a piece of your humanity,
453
00:20:53,452 --> 00:20:55,492
and there's no easy way out.
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Whenever I need
a place to think,
455
00:21:01,226 --> 00:21:03,596
I like to do a full loop
456
00:21:03,662 --> 00:21:05,532
on the Staten Island Ferry
457
00:21:05,597 --> 00:21:09,097
because it's free, and you
get a great view of the city.
458
00:21:09,167 --> 00:21:11,537
People are also kinda
stuck on there,
459
00:21:11,603 --> 00:21:14,043
so they usually don't
mind talking to you.
460
00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:20,246
Wilson: Four hours...
461
00:21:20,312 --> 00:21:23,252
The closing date on the house
was only a couple days away,
462
00:21:23,315 --> 00:21:27,115
and I still felt completely
unprepared to take on a tenant.
463
00:21:27,185 --> 00:21:29,685
Maybe I wasn't ready for
all the responsibility
464
00:21:29,755 --> 00:21:32,555
that comes with owning
a piece of New York,
465
00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:36,564
and I should just sail away
and never come back.
466
00:21:38,263 --> 00:21:41,673
But a big part of me always
wanted to grow old here.
467
00:21:41,733 --> 00:21:44,173
♪ ♪
468
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On the ride back, I struck up
a conversation with someone
469
00:21:47,239 --> 00:21:50,009
who seemed really
good at entertaining.
470
00:21:50,075 --> 00:21:52,005
And it looked like he'd
been doing it for a while.
471
00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:54,847
- I know, looks pretty cool, doesn't it?
- -Wilson: Yeah.
472
00:21:54,913 --> 00:21:56,583
And I don't even do
this kind of magic.
473
00:21:56,648 --> 00:21:58,248
I just like having the skill.
474
00:21:58,316 --> 00:22:00,786
Wilson:
It turned out he was
actually a ventriloquist,
475
00:22:00,852 --> 00:22:03,792
and he was on his way
to a gig in the city.
476
00:22:03,855 --> 00:22:05,985
What do you do for a living?
What do you do?
477
00:22:09,661 --> 00:22:11,961
Ventriloquist: You're a driver?
Truck driver? Really?
478
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:14,300
-Yes! Yes!
-I can do an impression
of you as a truck driver.
479
00:22:17,836 --> 00:22:19,966
What are you doing?
"I'm a truck driver." Okay.
480
00:22:20,038 --> 00:22:21,638
Wilson:
He really cheered me up.
481
00:22:21,707 --> 00:22:24,637
And when I told him
that I might be doing
a lot of entertaining soon,
482
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:28,350
he actually invited me
to visit him at his house
483
00:22:28,413 --> 00:22:30,453
to teach me a thing or two.
484
00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:31,475
♪ ♪
485
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He had a really nice place
486
00:22:33,085 --> 00:22:36,115
with a spotless
dining room set,
487
00:22:37,122 --> 00:22:39,762
a piano that played itself,
488
00:22:39,825 --> 00:22:41,455
and a whole room
in the basement
489
00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:43,996
devoted to his
collection of dummies.
490
00:22:44,062 --> 00:22:46,432
"I like his glasses." Yeah.
"They're really huge."
491
00:22:46,498 --> 00:22:48,128
Yeah. Well, that's not nice.
492
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,570
And, uh-- "They're really huge."
Yeah, they're pretty thick.
493
00:22:50,635 --> 00:22:52,935
"Get some contacts,
Johnny." Okay...
494
00:22:53,004 --> 00:22:55,014
That's not nice, huh?
Tell him you're sorry.
495
00:22:55,073 --> 00:22:56,943
"I'm sorry you're blind."
Alright.
496
00:22:57,008 --> 00:22:59,848
Wilson:
I was angry at the doll
for, for mocking me,
497
00:22:59,911 --> 00:23:02,411
but somehow, I couldn't
hold it against the man
498
00:23:02,481 --> 00:23:04,621
who was actually
making him do it.
499
00:23:04,683 --> 00:23:07,653
Are you usually the nice guy
and the puppet is the mean guy?
500
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320
Yeah, kinda. Kinda.
"Uh-huh."
501
00:23:11,389 --> 00:23:13,929
I mean, I'm telling
him don't do that,
502
00:23:13,992 --> 00:23:16,332
so, in a sense, yeah.
"Uh-huh."
503
00:23:16,394 --> 00:23:18,204
But, it's coming from my head,
so you're splitting
504
00:23:18,263 --> 00:23:19,633
your personality on some level
505
00:23:19,698 --> 00:23:22,328
'cause you're writing
what he would say,
506
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,870
and then performing it
as if it wasn't you.
507
00:23:25,937 --> 00:23:27,867
It's kinda interesting,
you know?
508
00:23:27,939 --> 00:23:30,839
I would never do what
these people say.
509
00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:33,549
Never. You get away with
murder with this stuff.
510
00:23:33,612 --> 00:23:35,182
Wilson:
I'd never thought
of that before.
511
00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:38,747
That you could be two different
people at the same time.
512
00:23:38,817 --> 00:23:41,917
Maybe he had found the secret
to being confrontational
513
00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:44,217
without damaging relationships.
514
00:23:44,289 --> 00:23:48,529
And maybe all I needed
was something like this
in my life.
515
00:23:48,593 --> 00:23:50,063
I'm hoping I'm able
to do a special
516
00:23:50,128 --> 00:23:52,428
where we can break down
the social barriers
517
00:23:52,497 --> 00:23:55,167
and the political barriers.
518
00:23:55,233 --> 00:23:58,173
I just really want
people to let go
519
00:23:58,236 --> 00:24:01,036
and enjoy,
and life is short.
520
00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:03,006
Wilson:
He seemed like a kind soul,
521
00:24:03,074 --> 00:24:05,444
and he gave me a lot
to think about.
522
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:08,580
But just as I was about
to leave, I realized that
523
00:24:08,647 --> 00:24:11,677
maybe he wasn't the best
role model after all.
524
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:14,790
Ventriloquist:
Do what you love and then
you never work a day, right?
525
00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:17,763
-Wilson: Oh. No, you don't...
-So, Smokey. "Yeah."
526
00:24:17,823 --> 00:24:19,763
Tell him what you do for
a living. "Uh-uh." Why?
527
00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:21,625
"Maybe he's a cop."
He's not a cop. "No?" No.
528
00:24:21,693 --> 00:24:23,863
-Wilson: Um--
-He's a regular guy.
"Is he really?" Yeah.
529
00:24:23,929 --> 00:24:25,599
Tell him what you do.
"Uh-uh."
Smokey's a pimp.
530
00:24:25,664 --> 00:24:27,734
"Don't tell him that." Why?
"Ain't politically correct."
531
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:29,939
What are you?
"I'm a physical relationship
facilitator."
532
00:24:30,001 --> 00:24:31,741
Wilson:
I think I have
everything I need.
533
00:24:43,248 --> 00:24:45,278
When the closing date arrives,
534
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:47,750
you head to the lawyer's
office and you sit down
535
00:24:47,819 --> 00:24:50,589
to finalize everything.
536
00:24:50,655 --> 00:24:52,355
They keep you in separate rooms
537
00:24:52,424 --> 00:24:54,434
until all the paperwork
is filed,
538
00:24:54,492 --> 00:24:56,432
so that there's no foul play.
539
00:24:56,494 --> 00:24:57,904
And then,
540
00:24:57,963 --> 00:25:00,103
you sign everything
that they hand you
541
00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:02,425
without reading a single page.
542
00:25:03,568 --> 00:25:05,698
Then, you can finally reunite
543
00:25:05,770 --> 00:25:08,470
and celebrate with
your former landlord,
544
00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:10,910
who now, for one night only,
545
00:25:10,976 --> 00:25:14,346
is actually your new tenant.
546
00:25:17,048 --> 00:25:18,018
♪ ♪
547
00:25:18,083 --> 00:25:20,853
She uses the time
you have left together
548
00:25:20,919 --> 00:25:23,389
to pass everything
she knows down to you.
549
00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:25,215
Oh, put your knee there?
550
00:25:26,825 --> 00:25:28,985
Wilson: Oh, okay.
I gotta learn how to sew.
551
00:25:31,396 --> 00:25:33,666
Oh, the oil is right here.
Oh, okay.
552
00:25:45,577 --> 00:25:47,377
Wilson:
Oh, for the bathroom.
553
00:25:47,445 --> 00:25:49,745
Yeah, I always
liked these. Yeah.
554
00:25:49,814 --> 00:25:53,154
These are beautiful...
Okay, I'll take them.
555
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:56,588
You're gonna miss
her a whole lot.
556
00:25:56,655 --> 00:25:58,415
But you know
in your heart that
557
00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:02,090
she'll just be loving
you somewhere else.
558
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,660
And after all
her stuff was gone,
559
00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:07,429
and she vacuumed all
the dirt off the floor,
560
00:26:07,499 --> 00:26:09,729
her last words to you were,
561
00:26:09,801 --> 00:26:13,041
"Have a nice day.
Have a nice life."
562
00:26:13,104 --> 00:26:15,414
And after a big hug,
563
00:26:15,473 --> 00:26:19,213
she takes nearly a million
dollars of your money and...
564
00:26:19,277 --> 00:26:20,677
♪ ♪
565
00:26:20,745 --> 00:26:23,915
flies nonstop to Las Vegas.
566
00:26:23,982 --> 00:26:25,922
And even though
you try to make the house
567
00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:28,554
your own in little ways,
568
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:30,220
you'll try to keep
all the good traditions
569
00:26:30,288 --> 00:26:33,458
that your landlord started.
570
00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:36,995
And make sure that nobody
forgets who was here before.
571
00:26:38,596 --> 00:26:41,466
And no matter who ends up
living in your vacant unit,
572
00:26:41,533 --> 00:26:45,103
you're guaranteed to always
have a great relationship
573
00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:47,870
because if you ever have
any conflicts with them,
574
00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:50,539
you thankfully now
have a healthy way
575
00:26:50,608 --> 00:26:54,308
to deliver the message
without getting personal.
576
00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:58,250
It might take a little
practice to get it right,
577
00:26:58,316 --> 00:27:00,446
but it should work fine,
578
00:27:00,518 --> 00:27:03,048
as long as you don't
take it too far.
579
00:27:04,155 --> 00:27:06,185
And as you watch the rain fall
580
00:27:06,257 --> 00:27:08,587
gently on your new house,
581
00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:12,460
you can finally be at peace,
knowing that you have
582
00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:15,670
a sense of stability for
the first time in your life.
583
00:27:17,202 --> 00:27:18,642
And if you're ever
worried about
584
00:27:18,703 --> 00:27:21,413
making big decisions
in the future,
585
00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:23,143
all you have to do is just
586
00:27:23,208 --> 00:27:25,338
listen to that little
voice in your head,
587
00:27:25,410 --> 00:27:27,850
and everything
should be just fine.
588
00:27:29,748 --> 00:27:32,548
This is John Wilson.
Thanks for watching.
589
00:27:32,617 --> 00:27:35,617
♪ ♪
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