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Det. Tovar: Today,
we recovered two more victims
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from the crawlspace.
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Medical and dental records
will be required
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to identify the deceased.
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He is in custody.
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Parents
reported the boy's missing.
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CPD kept doing nothing.
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Files on every missing kid
that fits Gacy's MO,
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plus anything
you have on Gacy himself.
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female reporter [on radio]:
Most of Gacy's alleged victims
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were either male prostitutes
or other homosexuals.
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They came
looking for a good time
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and got more than
they bargained for.
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He wasn't like that.
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Not like what they're saying
like those other boys.
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He wasn't like that.
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{\an8}Gacy attacks Jeffrey Rignall.
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State's attorney's office
declines to prosecute.
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They called it
homosexual horseplay.
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He's sick.
- So walk away.
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Most lawyers go their whole
careers chasing cases like this.
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Step right up, head-shrinker.
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It's good to meet you.
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John Gacy, face of insanity.
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That's how we win.
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{\an8}male reporter [on TV]:
Is John Wayne Gacy
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{\an8}competent to stand trial?
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{\an8}-No. Look,
my client is mentally ill.
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{\an8}I've, I've seen it firsthand.
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{\an8}I've seen him jerk
from one personality
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{\an8}to another while in custody.
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{\an8}His voice changes.
- Jesus Christ.
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He, he looks different.
And I'm no expert, but I...
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Oh, perfect timing.
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How'd you get a TV in here?
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Guards and me
work somethin' out. Excuse me.
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Sam [on TV]:
If you can please be patient...
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You like bein' a star, Sam?
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'Cause you're making me
out to be a real loon.
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And I don't care what
that lady doctor had to say
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'cause she wasn't
paying attention,
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and that's malpractice
is what that is.
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I laid it all out
for her real nice,
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bit by bit,
my whole life story.
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And what do I get? I wind up
looking like some crazy fag.
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I mean, what's my ma
gonna think, huh?
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I wanna talk to the press.
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You can't be
the only one talking
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when you don't know
what you're sayin'.
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We are using the press
to save your neck.
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It's part of our strategy.
- Shut up.
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Bob, when you
get to know me real good,
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you'll figure it out.
You'll see.
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Nobody talks better than me.
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I'll have them eating right
out of my palm. Both palms.
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Uh, can we talk about
that strategy for a minute?
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- Yeah. Sure.
- In light of your psych evals,
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we're advising you
plead not guilty
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by reason of insanity.
- Oh, God.
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Here we go with this.
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How about we plead innocent
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by reason of self-defense?
- How?
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How would you propose
we do that, John,
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considering everything?
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You really are as sharp
as a bowlin' ball
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if I gotta tell you this again.
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Blackmail, extortion,
robbery, assault.
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They were all
takin' advantage of me.
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That is a steep road to climb.
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Sorry.
It's too much work for you.
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Kunkle wants you dead.
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Fried. Do you get that?
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We're asserting
the insanity defense
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to keep you
from being executed.
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Look, look. I get it.
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I get that you feel
like a sitting duck.
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It's hard being in here. Okay?
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But we have a job to do
and we are fucking doing it.
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Now you gotta trust us.
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Find something to do
with your time.
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Keep yourself busy.
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I heard they have
ping-pong in here.
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Maybe get good at that.
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Can I talk to you for a second?
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Don't do this.
We're here. We're fine.
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Came down on high.
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It's snow.
It's a little fuckin' snow.
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I-- We gotta shut it down.
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This is bullshit.
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You haven't found any
new victims recently, right?
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It's been a couple days, yeah.
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Doesn't mean
they're not down there.
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Map says 27.
You've pulled 27.
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Who knows if this fuck's
tellin' the truth?
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We can get back down there
after the storm.
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Where are we
at IDing the victims?
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We've hit some speed bumps.
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Families have stopped
dropping off personal items,
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fingerprints, phone calls.
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It's all died down.
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I mean, I barely got a couple
dozen dental records.
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Oh, we all know why that is.
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Hey, I'm on your side.
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Look, I'm following up
on a couple of leads.
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I just need you to take it easy.
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Let me dig. Send them home.
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Nobody'll know.
Just you and me.
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You gotta get some rest.
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Pack it up.
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Everybody's
shittin' their pants.
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Unsafe to drive
or some bullshit.
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Shut it down
'till the storm passes.
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Oh, fuck off. Go home.
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Yeah?
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I'm Lieutenant Joe Kozenczak,
Des Plaines PD.
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I'm looking for Jeffrey Rignall.
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What police department
did you say you were from?
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Des Plaines.
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I'm the lead on the
John Wayne Gacy case.
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What do you want?
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- May I come in?
- No.
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Last year, you filed
a police report for assault?
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You named Gacy as the assailant.
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Would you like to tell me
exactly what happened?
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I already did. Everything.
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You did nothing.
So I got nothing left to say.
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That, that was Chicago PD.
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You think I give a fuck?
You're too late.
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I need your help.
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If I'm gonna fix this,
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I need to understand
what went wrong.
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You can't fix this.
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I shouldn't
have to explain it to you.
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Kids died 'cause of you.
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{\an8}woman 1: He's so cool guy.
It's exciting.
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{\an8}woman 2: Have you
talked to him about it?
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{\an8}man: Kinda feel it.
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{\an8}woman 1: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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woman 2:
I think he likes you, honestly.
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I'm gonna miss you, Phil.
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And I'm gonna
miss you more, Dale.
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No.
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What am I gonna do
in this place without you?
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Believe me,
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I don't wanna
move out to the boonies
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with just my pops.
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Yeah. Yeah. I know.
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Shit, I wish my dad was dyin'.
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Nah, you don't mean that.
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Fuck that.
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What's this?
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Bus ticket.
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Come visit me.
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If you ever want to,
I'll be there.
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Would love it.
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I don't know you.
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I don't know your deal.
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But whatever
it is between you two?
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Is fuckin' beautiful.
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My brother's
movin' to Pennsylvania.
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Y'all brothers?
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- Basically.
- I mean, not blood brothers,
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but close enough.
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That's good.
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Yo.
Bring that shit over here.
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Give these guys
whatever they want.
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Go ahead and take it.
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Ah, so my name's Billy.
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Dale.
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This is Phil.
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My folks,
they're deep in the bottle,
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ya dig?
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Had to look out for number one.
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So I got a job instead.
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Yeah, I was talkin'
about this earlier.
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Parents ain't shit.
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Fuck that somber shit.
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Look at us now.
Fine-lookin' studs.
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Yeah. We, we,
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we just work
at the movie theater.
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Not exactly
rollin' in the dough like you.
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[groans] Yaow. Woo.
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No jive.
You sell drugs, right?
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Nah. I fuck for money.
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You're interested?
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Cats like you
could get top dollar.
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Like sex, right?
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Yeah, like sex.
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You a hustler.
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Fuck, yeah, baby.
And livin' is easy.
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You guys hirin'?
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Well, I-- I'm turning into
a high as fuck pumpkin here.
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I still need to pack.
Let's go, Dale.
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Yeah, we got all night.
You can pack later.
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Yeah, Phillip. Pack later.
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I can't go home this high.
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My dad'll break my other arm.
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Hey, don't you worry, Phillip.
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We'll take good care of him,
you know?
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I'll come see you
in the morning before you go.
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All right. I'm out at 8:00 AM.
You won't make it.
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I'll make it.
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Damn.
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Okay, fuck it. Give it to me.
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Dude, you just did it.
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- You go ahead.
- All right. Fuck it.
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Fuck it. Fuck it.
- Here we go.
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- Cheers.
- Cheers.
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Oh.
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Cezanne's my favorite.
He did impressions.
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What kind of impressions?
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Landscapes mostly.
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So you're a painter too?
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I'm the real deal.
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That's why I need supplies.
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I can paint something for you.
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- Like what?
- You like Disney?
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Not really.
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Who doesn't like Disney?
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I mean, Mickey? Bambi?
Doc, Grumpy, Happy?
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I'm a grown-ass man.
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Well, you gotta like
Jesus Christ.
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You like him?
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Yeah, I like him all right.
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Okay. I'll do him for you.
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You want thorns on him?
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Sure. You any good?
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Any good?
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Your ears mucked up, Jenkins?
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I'm telling you, I'm not
drawing stick figures here.
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It'll be like you died and
are nose-to-nose with God.
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I just need those supplies.
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Nothing I can do.
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Above my pay grade, buddy.
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Oh, man.
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Okay. I get it.
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Rules are rules.
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Good on you.
You're doing your job right.
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You're reliable and trustworthy.
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I could've used you
at my company.
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It's just sometimes
you really wanna do things
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for yourself, you know?
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Take control.
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Makes you wanna
scream sometimes.
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It's so frustrating.
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Makes you feel like
not much of a man, don't it?
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I mean, you get it.
You said so yourself.
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I didn't say that, John.
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You said you had no power.
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I get to leave here tonight
and you don't.
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That's a good point.
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I didn't mean nothing by it.
No disrespect.
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It's just-- it was so impressive
how Chuck, the night guard,
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got me a TV all to myself.
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Nah. I don't want
you to think twice about it.
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00:13:30,809 --> 00:13:33,270
I'll just see if Chuck can
come through for me again.
257
00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:38,984
- Ten minutes.
- Okay.
258
00:13:42,738 --> 00:13:44,323
You tell him
you just wanted to talk?
259
00:13:44,365 --> 00:13:46,909
No. I told him I was
a Jehovah's fucking Witness.
260
00:13:47,576 --> 00:13:51,330
Rignall's pissed.
Hell, I'd be too.
261
00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:53,082
I wouldn't talk to us either.
262
00:13:53,123 --> 00:13:55,167
Everybody fucked everything up.
263
00:13:56,377 --> 00:13:59,129
Well, he'd be good
on the stand.
264
00:13:59,171 --> 00:14:01,840
We could get a subpoena,
make him talk.
265
00:14:01,882 --> 00:14:03,884
Did you hear
anything I just said?
266
00:14:04,301 --> 00:14:06,387
We gotta be gentle with him.
267
00:14:07,179 --> 00:14:08,430
We'll let him cool off.
268
00:14:08,472 --> 00:14:10,766
Besides, I got somebody else
I'm hunting down.
269
00:14:12,268 --> 00:14:13,936
It's embarrassing, you know?
270
00:14:13,978 --> 00:14:16,355
It's fucking embarrassing.
We treated him like shit.
271
00:14:16,397 --> 00:14:20,276
There is a time and a
place to straighten things out.
272
00:14:20,317 --> 00:14:21,735
Today ain't it.
273
00:14:21,777 --> 00:14:23,862
"Today ain't it."
That's probably the reason
274
00:14:23,904 --> 00:14:25,823
all this is happening
in the first place.
275
00:14:25,864 --> 00:14:27,032
Hey, hey.
276
00:14:27,074 --> 00:14:29,243
Do you mind
if we just handle this guy first
277
00:14:29,285 --> 00:14:31,412
before we fix the world?
278
00:14:47,845 --> 00:14:49,763
Thanks for coming in, David.
279
00:14:51,265 --> 00:14:52,558
With the weather and everything.
280
00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,518
I mean, the snow is really
coming down out there.
281
00:14:54,768 --> 00:14:58,439
So, um, you worked for Gacy?
282
00:14:59,607 --> 00:15:01,233
I, uh-- For a bit.
283
00:15:03,277 --> 00:15:04,987
How'd you win that lottery?
284
00:15:05,362 --> 00:15:07,239
I mean, we've been doing
this for a month now
285
00:15:07,281 --> 00:15:09,074
and there's
not a lot of you left.
286
00:15:09,116 --> 00:15:11,410
You know, alive.
287
00:15:15,122 --> 00:15:16,332
How'd you meet?
288
00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:21,920
Uh, in '76, I was hitchhiking
down Elston Ave.,
289
00:15:21,962 --> 00:15:23,422
coming from my job.
290
00:15:23,797 --> 00:15:26,133
John pulls up
and offered me a ride.
291
00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:29,803
How'd you find him?
Was he nice?
292
00:15:30,304 --> 00:15:32,097
Just like anybody else.
293
00:15:34,224 --> 00:15:36,352
He told me
I seem like a good worker.
294
00:15:36,977 --> 00:15:39,229
That's hard to find in kids
these days.
295
00:15:39,271 --> 00:15:42,149
And... Then he said
he did construction
296
00:15:42,191 --> 00:15:43,942
and he offered me a job.
297
00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:46,487
And my grandma
had started charging me rent.
298
00:15:46,528 --> 00:15:48,364
So John was offering
five dollars an hour.
299
00:15:48,405 --> 00:15:51,909
He said I could start
right away, uh...
300
00:15:51,950 --> 00:15:54,119
painting a hot dog stand.
301
00:15:55,287 --> 00:15:56,997
How long did you work for him?
302
00:15:57,665 --> 00:16:02,252
Um, a few months
before I moved in
303
00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:04,838
and then a year after that.
304
00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,256
Moved in where?
305
00:16:07,132 --> 00:16:08,133
Uh, with him.
306
00:16:08,175 --> 00:16:10,177
Him who? Him Gacy?
307
00:16:16,475 --> 00:16:18,560
Look, my grandma
lived a ways away
308
00:16:18,602 --> 00:16:20,479
and I'd show up for work late.
309
00:16:20,521 --> 00:16:23,399
John would dock my pay
and lose his shit.
310
00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,109
And he said
he just got a divorce.
311
00:16:25,150 --> 00:16:27,528
He got the house to himself,
and extra room.
312
00:16:27,569 --> 00:16:30,072
And he charged me
way less rent than my grandma.
313
00:16:30,114 --> 00:16:33,659
And what did you all...
do together?
314
00:16:33,701 --> 00:16:37,621
I don't know. Uh, I mean,
he, he liked to have fun.
315
00:16:37,871 --> 00:16:40,332
Was work hard, play hard,
he said.
316
00:16:40,374 --> 00:16:42,084
And his business was all right.
317
00:16:42,126 --> 00:16:43,168
There were lots of other guys.
318
00:16:43,210 --> 00:16:47,005
So we would drink and, um...
319
00:16:48,924 --> 00:16:51,552
David,
we're not here to bust you.
320
00:16:51,593 --> 00:16:53,011
Not yet.
321
00:16:53,053 --> 00:16:55,431
Ignore him.
What'd you guys do?
322
00:16:55,472 --> 00:16:57,182
You did some drugs together?
323
00:16:58,142 --> 00:17:00,936
What? Weed? Okay.
324
00:17:00,978 --> 00:17:03,939
Anything else?
Cocaine? Uppers?
325
00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:05,232
Did you fuck him?
326
00:17:13,657 --> 00:17:15,200
Were you ever intimate?
327
00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:22,291
He, uh--
328
00:17:23,584 --> 00:17:27,087
Um, he...
329
00:17:28,422 --> 00:17:31,091
he told me
that he paid for things.
330
00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:36,972
My food, um, drugs.
331
00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:42,352
And sometimes I'd fuck up.
332
00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:45,189
I'd maybe mess up
his tools by accident.
333
00:17:47,608 --> 00:17:49,943
And he would say
that I owed him.
334
00:17:50,486 --> 00:17:53,572
You're not answering
the question, David.
335
00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:55,574
No. No.
Let's forget about that.
336
00:17:55,616 --> 00:17:57,618
I, I wanna talk about this.
337
00:17:57,951 --> 00:18:01,079
There's a bunch of dead kids
under that house.
338
00:18:01,121 --> 00:18:02,581
You lived there.
339
00:18:05,292 --> 00:18:08,420
You didn't know anything, hmm?
340
00:18:09,254 --> 00:18:10,589
You didn't see anything?
341
00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:12,299
You're telling me
you didn't smell anything?
342
00:18:12,341 --> 00:18:14,718
I never saw him murder anyone.
343
00:18:19,223 --> 00:18:20,432
Hey, look at me.
344
00:18:22,601 --> 00:18:24,394
This guy's a good cop.
345
00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:28,190
He has the say on
who gets charged with what.
346
00:18:28,232 --> 00:18:30,651
But I have some sway.
347
00:18:31,485 --> 00:18:33,403
And I am telling you...
348
00:18:34,238 --> 00:18:37,407
that I will ruin
your life in an instant.
349
00:18:46,667 --> 00:18:48,669
Uh, One time,
350
00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:52,506
he paid me extra...
351
00:18:54,842 --> 00:18:57,177
to dig him a trench...
352
00:19:00,055 --> 00:19:01,723
in his crawlspace.
353
00:19:14,862 --> 00:19:15,696
You were in church
earlier today?
354
00:19:15,737 --> 00:19:16,947
{\an8}What were you doing in church?
355
00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:19,199
{\an8}So you were in church
and then you came here?
356
00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:21,660
{\an8}I don't wanna know.
357
00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:24,580
{\an8}My man.
You're still shitfaced?
358
00:19:24,621 --> 00:19:28,375
Been flying all night.
Ready to land.
359
00:19:28,417 --> 00:19:30,669
We're just getting
our second wind.
360
00:19:30,711 --> 00:19:32,212
Oh, man.
361
00:19:37,426 --> 00:19:40,637
Julian, get this man a pancake
platter and a cold beer.
362
00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:43,515
Pronto. That's for everyone.
363
00:19:43,765 --> 00:19:45,475
You keep the rest, huh?
364
00:19:47,185 --> 00:19:49,688
All right. Yeah. Here.
You want a bump?
365
00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:50,856
- No.
- Okay.
366
00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:51,773
Yeah.
367
00:19:56,778 --> 00:19:58,363
You said bye to Phil?
368
00:20:00,616 --> 00:20:02,367
Didn't make it.
369
00:20:02,409 --> 00:20:05,120
Aw, man. That sucks.
370
00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:10,334
Hey. You love him, huh?
371
00:20:12,336 --> 00:20:14,379
- You know.
- Yeah.
372
00:20:14,421 --> 00:20:17,549
He knows that. He loves you too.
373
00:20:22,679 --> 00:20:25,307
So take me to the bakery
'cause I want that bread.
374
00:20:25,349 --> 00:20:26,725
Okay, stud.
375
00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:28,477
Enthusiasm's half the game.
376
00:20:29,645 --> 00:20:31,313
I love hustling.
377
00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:32,731
Love making money.
378
00:20:32,773 --> 00:20:36,610
Love making people feel,
uh, appreciated.
379
00:20:36,652 --> 00:20:38,278
It's powerful.
- Hmm.
380
00:20:43,283 --> 00:20:45,202
Are the girls
who pay you all that cash
381
00:20:45,243 --> 00:20:47,329
old or ugly or something?
382
00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:52,334
Girls? Look around, my man.
383
00:20:54,294 --> 00:20:55,587
Hookers.
384
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,428
All these guys are hookers?
385
00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:05,222
No. Not the older guys.
386
00:21:15,315 --> 00:21:17,359
- Don't get me wrong...
- Hmm.
387
00:21:17,401 --> 00:21:18,777
I dig it.
388
00:21:18,819 --> 00:21:21,321
Whatever you wanna do, do.
389
00:21:22,656 --> 00:21:24,408
But I ain't queer.
390
00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:29,413
Queer. Straight. Bisexual.
391
00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:31,581
What's it matter, hmm?
392
00:21:31,623 --> 00:21:33,750
Plenty of these guys
here are straight.
393
00:21:33,792 --> 00:21:35,711
When they clean their house too.
394
00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:44,511
Like, you know, uh,
it's not for everyone.
395
00:21:44,553 --> 00:21:46,430
Believe me.
I don't wanna pressure you.
396
00:21:46,471 --> 00:21:47,889
No, it's all good.
397
00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:52,352
How much you pulling down?
398
00:21:52,394 --> 00:21:54,396
Prices vary, of course.
399
00:21:54,938 --> 00:21:57,649
A lot to take
into consideration.
400
00:21:57,691 --> 00:21:59,443
Two, three hundred a week.
401
00:21:59,943 --> 00:22:01,486
Hot damn.
402
00:22:01,528 --> 00:22:04,448
Cheekbones, ass like yours?
403
00:22:04,489 --> 00:22:07,743
I'm just saying.
You could pull in more.
404
00:22:07,784 --> 00:22:09,911
It'd take a month to make
that at the theater.
405
00:22:11,329 --> 00:22:13,457
We're all selling our bodies.
406
00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:15,417
Why not get the most for it, huh?
407
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,296
Let me introduce
the legendary...
408
00:22:19,337 --> 00:22:22,049
- Hmm.
- matriarch of Uptown herself,
409
00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:24,384
Sophia Saint Laurent.
410
00:22:24,426 --> 00:22:26,887
Uh-uh. Matriarch sounds like
an old stuck-up bitch.
411
00:22:26,928 --> 00:22:28,346
If the stiletto fits.
412
00:22:28,388 --> 00:22:30,307
I'll shove
my stiletto up your ass.
413
00:22:30,348 --> 00:22:32,476
This is the Land of the Free.
414
00:22:32,517 --> 00:22:34,019
You got options here.
415
00:22:34,061 --> 00:22:37,355
The more open you are,
the more options you get.
416
00:22:38,315 --> 00:22:39,483
There's Harvey.
417
00:22:39,816 --> 00:22:42,402
Let him suck your dick,
you get $50.
418
00:22:42,444 --> 00:22:45,072
And that's plush, 'cause
most guys only drop 20 for that.
419
00:22:45,113 --> 00:22:47,032
Shit. I'd only go to him then.
420
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,910
Nah. Let the guy
come up to you.
421
00:22:49,951 --> 00:22:51,328
Keep him dangling.
422
00:22:51,369 --> 00:22:53,955
And who is this tall, dark,
423
00:22:53,997 --> 00:22:56,416
and handsome lollipop
you're hiding?
424
00:22:56,458 --> 00:22:58,627
- Don't mind her. She's in heat.
- Ooh.
425
00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:01,922
- I'm Dale.
- Hmm.
426
00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:03,715
Welcome to the stroll, baby.
427
00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:05,592
You're gonna do
just fine out here.
428
00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:07,135
Now, play it a little dumb.
429
00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:08,929
The old hawks don't like it
when you're smarter than them.
430
00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:12,766
What's a hawk?
431
00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,643
Hawks are everywhere.
432
00:23:14,684 --> 00:23:16,478
All looking for chickens.
433
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,439
Us. Ripe for the plucking.
434
00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:20,774
Finger-licking good.
435
00:23:20,816 --> 00:23:23,443
That dude
there in the Pontiac?
436
00:23:23,485 --> 00:23:24,945
Another easy score.
437
00:23:24,986 --> 00:23:29,074
He'll lick shit off your boots,
hand you 30 bucks.
438
00:23:29,116 --> 00:23:30,784
Fuck off.
439
00:23:30,826 --> 00:23:31,785
No judgment.
440
00:23:31,827 --> 00:23:33,370
I don't have the money
for this.
441
00:23:33,411 --> 00:23:35,455
I got you. You got me.
442
00:23:35,497 --> 00:23:36,873
You take a cut?
443
00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:38,959
More like, it's an investment.
444
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,002
You think I can fuck
all these hawks myself?
445
00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:45,340
Father Blake.
As in "man of God" father.
446
00:23:46,091 --> 00:23:47,509
He's a local.
447
00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:51,638
Pays a hundred for whatever,
but they gotta be young.
448
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,518
So...
do you do everything?
449
00:23:57,227 --> 00:23:59,354
Everything is a negotiation.
450
00:23:59,396 --> 00:24:02,065
But I've been doing this
for a while now.
451
00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:03,567
Open to a lot.
452
00:24:03,608 --> 00:24:05,569
Did Billy tell you
about pairing up?
453
00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:07,362
Never turn a trick alone.
454
00:24:07,821 --> 00:24:08,989
Why?
455
00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:11,700
'Cause that's how you go
missing forever.
456
00:24:11,741 --> 00:24:12,993
We got a system.
457
00:24:13,034 --> 00:24:14,077
Walk up to the car.
458
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,495
Write down the plate.
459
00:24:15,537 --> 00:24:17,497
If something goes upside down,
we know who you're with.
460
00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:20,917
If something don't feel right,
you walk away.
461
00:24:20,959 --> 00:24:22,335
You make the rules.
462
00:24:22,377 --> 00:24:25,046
Don't fucking forget that.
That is fucking essential.
463
00:24:25,088 --> 00:24:27,507
You're young and hot.
464
00:24:27,549 --> 00:24:28,967
You'll always have
your pick of the litter.
465
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,053
All right, my sweets.
466
00:24:32,095 --> 00:24:35,015
Go make that money
and I'll see you in the morn.
467
00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:39,603
♪ Yeah, rock on ♪
468
00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:48,195
Did you call Dr. Healy?
469
00:24:48,612 --> 00:24:52,115
Uh-hmm. I had to
set the record straight.
470
00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:54,534
No. You threatened her.
471
00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:56,578
I did not.
472
00:24:57,954 --> 00:24:59,581
I corrected her memory.
473
00:24:59,623 --> 00:25:00,749
John.
474
00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:04,878
Jesus fucking Christ, John.
475
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,130
We need her for your defense.
476
00:25:07,464 --> 00:25:10,133
Maybe I should defend myself.
477
00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:11,301
That's a great idea.
478
00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:12,677
The last time
I let you run your mouth,
479
00:25:12,719 --> 00:25:14,137
you talked your way
out of a plea deal.
480
00:25:14,179 --> 00:25:16,598
You need to think
outside the box.
481
00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:20,060
You told me you killed 33 boys.
482
00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:21,686
I was drunk and high.
483
00:25:21,728 --> 00:25:22,896
Cops were chasing me.
484
00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:24,564
And you gave me more to drink.
485
00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:26,691
I would've confessed to the
St. Valentine's Day Massacre
486
00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:28,610
if it was put to me.
487
00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:29,986
What the fuck?
Why are you mad at me?
488
00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:31,029
I'm mad at you.
489
00:25:31,071 --> 00:25:32,781
You've let me down
at every turn.
490
00:25:32,822 --> 00:25:34,241
I'm in here 'cause of you.
491
00:25:34,282 --> 00:25:36,952
And you won't let me talk to
the prosecutor, the press.
492
00:25:36,993 --> 00:25:38,578
Now the shrink. I mean--
493
00:25:39,996 --> 00:25:40,914
What are those?
494
00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:42,749
Letters. Fan mail, actually.
495
00:25:42,791 --> 00:25:44,793
Midge from North Dakota
thinks I'm innocent.
496
00:25:44,834 --> 00:25:47,128
Jimmy from Tallahassee
doesn't think I'm crazy.
497
00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:48,672
And there's a--
there's a whole bunch more.
498
00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:50,006
I could keep reading them
out to you.
499
00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:53,802
John, Midge and Jimmy
won't be in your jury pool.
500
00:25:53,843 --> 00:25:55,011
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
501
00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:56,179
We should get them in there,
don't you think?
502
00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:58,306
That's not how--
Fucking stop thinking
503
00:25:58,348 --> 00:26:00,725
about Midge from Kansas!
- North Dakota.
504
00:26:00,767 --> 00:26:04,980
Stop calling anybody
but your mother and your sister.
505
00:26:05,021 --> 00:26:06,523
Do you hear me?
506
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,817
Do you hear me, John?
507
00:26:08,858 --> 00:26:10,944
- Yeah. I hear you.
- Good. Good.
508
00:26:16,157 --> 00:26:19,661
Start listening
before it's too fucking late,
509
00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:21,997
because we are almost there.
510
00:26:31,089 --> 00:26:32,924
What are we doing here?
511
00:26:35,719 --> 00:26:38,972
What did you think
these trenches were for?
512
00:26:40,098 --> 00:26:41,891
I just did what I was told.
513
00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:44,185
He say anything else?
514
00:26:44,227 --> 00:26:46,313
Just get down there
and dig and you dug?
515
00:26:46,354 --> 00:26:47,439
No. Sewer lines.
516
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,691
He, he said
sewer lines for flooding.
517
00:26:56,948 --> 00:26:58,325
What are those flags?
518
00:26:58,366 --> 00:27:01,244
Well, that-- that's a person.
519
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:05,790
And that's a person.
And that's a person.
520
00:27:05,832 --> 00:27:10,962
That's-- well, or,
you know, was a person.
521
00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:15,592
Where were you digging?
522
00:27:17,218 --> 00:27:18,595
Um...
523
00:27:25,727 --> 00:27:27,270
It was over here.
524
00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:34,361
This was my room,
525
00:27:36,780 --> 00:27:38,198
where I slept.
526
00:27:41,785 --> 00:27:43,661
John slept here.
527
00:27:48,375 --> 00:27:50,085
We were digging
somewhere around here.
528
00:27:50,126 --> 00:27:52,879
So you're down there,
face in the shit,
529
00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:57,342
and you are telling us
that you had no clue?
530
00:27:57,384 --> 00:27:58,927
About what?
531
00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:04,057
About the bodies, David.
532
00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:08,686
You lived above 27 dead bodies
533
00:28:08,728 --> 00:28:11,648
and you expect us to believe
that you had no idea?
534
00:28:11,689 --> 00:28:14,109
You don't understand
what it was like with him.
535
00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:17,278
What it was like living here.
- Okay.
536
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,949
Why don't you tell us?
Help us out.
537
00:28:22,742 --> 00:28:25,829
Make us understand, hmm?
538
00:28:26,996 --> 00:28:28,706
What'd he do to you?
539
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:33,253
I...
540
00:28:39,509 --> 00:28:42,345
I had to wear
two pairs of jeans to sleep.
541
00:28:44,722 --> 00:28:45,932
The fuck are you talking about?
542
00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:48,810
"You scratch my back
and I'll scratch yours."
543
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,022
That's what he said to me.
544
00:28:54,899 --> 00:28:57,402
And I didn't know
what that meant until he--
545
00:29:01,781 --> 00:29:03,283
It was my birthday.
546
00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:07,871
My present.
547
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:18,006
He climbed on top of me.
548
00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:29,767
And he took it out
and he put it in me.
549
00:29:31,019 --> 00:29:32,395
He attacked you.
550
00:29:35,398 --> 00:29:37,484
Why didn't you call the police?
551
00:29:40,403 --> 00:29:42,489
'Cause he said he had
people in his back pocket.
552
00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:45,366
Cops, lawyers,
you know, people like you.
553
00:29:45,408 --> 00:29:47,327
Mafia even.
554
00:29:48,536 --> 00:29:49,662
Hmm.
555
00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:51,164
And he said if I gave him
what he wanted,
556
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:52,415
he would give me more money.
557
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:53,791
Hmm.
558
00:29:55,293 --> 00:29:59,047
So you're not a victim,
you're a whore.
559
00:30:01,007 --> 00:30:02,258
Did he pay you to
keep your mouth shut
560
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:03,927
about the murders too?
- No.
561
00:30:03,968 --> 00:30:05,220
- I don't believe you, David.
- No.
562
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,263
- I don't believe you, okay?
- He wouldn't stop.
563
00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:09,307
- You're a fucking liar.
- He just wouldn't stop.
564
00:30:09,349 --> 00:30:10,350
Bill. Bill.
565
00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:15,271
Even when I said stop,
he wouldn't.
566
00:30:16,439 --> 00:30:18,441
And I said stop...
567
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,321
a lot of times again and again.
568
00:30:23,363 --> 00:30:24,822
And I--
569
00:30:27,158 --> 00:30:29,160
I said it until--
570
00:30:31,913 --> 00:30:34,123
His eyes were so--
571
00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:38,002
It's like nobody was there.
572
00:30:38,044 --> 00:30:40,964
I mean, it's like
he wasn't even there.
573
00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:47,470
And, yeah, I got scared...
574
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:53,476
and I stopped saying stop.
575
00:31:06,197 --> 00:31:08,157
{\an8}So I can lay him out
if it gets crazy, right?
576
00:31:08,199 --> 00:31:10,285
Yeah, Bruce Lee. You got this.
577
00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:11,869
Where you gonna be?
578
00:31:12,161 --> 00:31:14,247
Right here.
In the shadows, my man.
579
00:31:14,289 --> 00:31:15,873
I ain't going nowhere.
580
00:31:16,749 --> 00:31:19,460
You know, it's always like this
for first-timers, you know?
581
00:31:20,878 --> 00:31:22,005
Like what?
582
00:31:22,297 --> 00:31:26,342
Nerves. Adrenaline pumping,
pumping, pumping.
583
00:31:27,176 --> 00:31:29,971
Couple tricks,
you'll be a real ace.
584
00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:31,222
I'm cool now.
585
00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:34,058
Good.
'Cause you got a hawk circling.
586
00:31:41,357 --> 00:31:42,984
Seventy bucks.
587
00:31:43,026 --> 00:31:45,528
He wants you to smack him
around a bit.
588
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:48,990
More if he can jack off
while you do it.
589
00:31:52,535 --> 00:31:54,495
- Yeah.
- All right.
590
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:43,252
Surprised you found a place
that was open.
591
00:32:46,422 --> 00:32:48,007
Earth to Sam.
592
00:32:48,424 --> 00:32:50,426
Yeah. Sorry.
593
00:32:50,718 --> 00:32:53,179
Yeah, no, this blizzard
isn't keeping people
594
00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:54,555
from making money.
595
00:32:56,015 --> 00:32:59,102
Hey, I miss this.
596
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:01,312
You mean dinner
with you and me?
597
00:33:01,354 --> 00:33:02,980
Yeah.
598
00:33:03,022 --> 00:33:04,232
And Bob?
599
00:33:05,274 --> 00:33:06,484
I'll take what I can get.
600
00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:10,029
You're Sam Amirante.
601
00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:11,114
Yeah. That's me.
602
00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:12,240
This your wife?
603
00:33:12,281 --> 00:33:13,408
Huh?
604
00:33:13,616 --> 00:33:16,411
You're gonna burn in hell,
you piece of shit.
605
00:33:16,994 --> 00:33:21,290
Hey. Hey.
And who the fuck are you?
606
00:33:21,332 --> 00:33:22,583
Hey, Sam. Sam.
607
00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:24,961
- Watch your fucking mouth.
- Come on, Sam.
608
00:33:27,714 --> 00:33:29,424
- You all right?
- Are you okay?
609
00:33:29,465 --> 00:33:30,466
Yeah.
610
00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:38,057
These people.
Whole thing's un-American.
611
00:33:38,307 --> 00:33:39,600
Are you kidding me?
612
00:33:39,642 --> 00:33:41,602
Being able to spout
an asshole opinion
613
00:33:41,644 --> 00:33:43,604
rooted in a complete
and utter lack of information,
614
00:33:43,646 --> 00:33:45,231
is wholly American.
615
00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:47,191
And we're gonna be manipulating
616
00:33:47,233 --> 00:33:49,736
that very ignorance
to save his life.
617
00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:53,114
The media coverage on this
isn't making it any easier.
618
00:33:53,322 --> 00:33:54,574
Never in the annals of history
619
00:33:54,615 --> 00:33:56,409
has there been so much
pre-indictment publicity.
620
00:33:56,451 --> 00:33:57,744
That's very good.
621
00:33:57,785 --> 00:33:59,203
You should use that next time.
622
00:33:59,245 --> 00:34:00,329
Uh-hmm.
623
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,124
You're not gonna
get a fair trial here.
624
00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:09,297
I mean, we could petition to
move it out of the county.
625
00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:11,674
I saw a news story in Chinese.
626
00:34:13,050 --> 00:34:14,469
Judge Garippo won't grant it.
627
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:16,095
The case is too shiny
on his resume.
628
00:34:17,054 --> 00:34:19,515
We could motion to hold the
jury selection somewhere else.
629
00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:22,643
Not in China,
of course, but, uh,
630
00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:24,771
somewhere both far away
but close enough
631
00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:26,689
that Judge Garippo will buy in.
632
00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:30,735
To Midge and Jimmy,
wherever they may be.
633
00:34:30,777 --> 00:34:33,029
North Dakota and Tallahassee.
634
00:34:33,070 --> 00:34:34,322
Cheers.
635
00:34:34,697 --> 00:34:36,616
Mr. Sam Amirante?
636
00:34:40,036 --> 00:34:41,788
I don't know the answer.
637
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:43,206
It is you.
638
00:34:43,247 --> 00:34:45,166
Can we get an autograph?
639
00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:47,418
I loved what you had to say.
640
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:49,378
Everyone deserves
a strong defense.
641
00:34:49,712 --> 00:34:51,547
We're actually in law school.
642
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:53,257
Well, there is hope.
643
00:34:53,299 --> 00:34:55,468
And you're Bob Motta,
co-counsel.
644
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:57,094
In the flesh.
645
00:34:58,221 --> 00:35:00,348
And this,
this is my wife, Mary.
646
00:35:00,389 --> 00:35:02,725
Maybe we could
grab a bite sometime,
647
00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:05,228
pick your brains.
648
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:07,063
I'm out.
649
00:35:07,563 --> 00:35:10,733
But Mr. Motta here is the
real brains of the operation.
650
00:35:13,736 --> 00:35:16,697
He always carries a pen too.
651
00:35:16,739 --> 00:35:18,074
Well, you never know.
652
00:35:29,168 --> 00:35:30,378
{\an8}Hey.
woman: Hey, Dale.
653
00:35:30,419 --> 00:35:32,255
{\an8}Hey.
man: Hi, Dale.
654
00:35:32,296 --> 00:35:33,172
{\an8}Oh.
655
00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:34,590
{\an8}woman: Hey, babe.
656
00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:38,761
Oh. Hey.
657
00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:43,224
Oh, hey, you see Billy?
658
00:35:43,266 --> 00:35:44,809
Not for a couple weeks.
659
00:35:44,851 --> 00:35:46,811
Huh. Me too.
660
00:35:48,563 --> 00:35:49,897
Probably with Harvey.
661
00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:51,524
You know how he likes to
keep them drugged up
662
00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:53,359
and in the house for a few days
for extra money.
663
00:35:53,401 --> 00:35:54,610
I wish Harvey
664
00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:56,529
would keep me
a few days in the house.
665
00:35:56,571 --> 00:35:58,573
Um, if you see him,
666
00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:00,157
just tell him
I'm looking for him.
667
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:01,325
Okay.
668
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,296
{\an8}Fifty. Upfront.
669
00:36:13,337 --> 00:36:15,339
{\an8}More depending on
what gets you off.
670
00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:09,852
Didn't think you were coming.
671
00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:12,772
Crazy party
last night, brother.
672
00:37:12,813 --> 00:37:14,482
It's Tuesday.
673
00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:18,361
Shit.
674
00:37:20,738 --> 00:37:23,824
Good morning. Can I get you
something to drink?
675
00:37:23,866 --> 00:37:26,786
Can I get a beer? Want one?
676
00:37:26,994 --> 00:37:28,746
Not for breakfast.
677
00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:34,752
You're killing me.
Coffee. Black.
678
00:37:36,045 --> 00:37:38,464
Uh, and two waters please.
679
00:37:38,506 --> 00:37:39,465
Okay.
680
00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:47,306
You're looking sly.
How's life in PA?
681
00:37:49,392 --> 00:37:50,726
Um...
682
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,731
my dad passed.
683
00:37:59,485 --> 00:38:00,611
I'm sorry.
684
00:38:03,322 --> 00:38:06,534
He was in a lot of pain.
Tired.
685
00:38:10,579 --> 00:38:12,498
Well, we're here
for a good time,
686
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,458
not a long time.
687
00:38:16,085 --> 00:38:17,920
Speak for yourself, man.
688
00:38:18,462 --> 00:38:20,881
I'm trying to live
as long as possible.
689
00:38:20,923 --> 00:38:23,259
Out in the woods.
Hugging a tree.
690
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:24,385
Growing my own food.
691
00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:25,636
Government doesn't
even know about me.
692
00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:27,430
Oh, you a hippie now.
693
00:38:27,471 --> 00:38:28,764
Peace, love, and harmony, man.
694
00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:31,642
Yeah, maybe out in the woods.
Not here.
695
00:38:32,309 --> 00:38:33,561
Here you go.
696
00:38:34,186 --> 00:38:36,355
- Can I get a menu?
- Sure.
697
00:38:37,064 --> 00:38:38,357
Thanks.
698
00:38:40,317 --> 00:38:41,944
What about you? Your pops?
699
00:38:41,986 --> 00:38:43,863
Oh, fuck that cat.
700
00:38:43,904 --> 00:38:45,406
Finally got a divorce.
701
00:38:45,448 --> 00:38:46,907
He moved the fuck out.
702
00:38:46,949 --> 00:38:48,659
- Glad to hear it.
- Yeah.
703
00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:50,661
Oh, and, uh,
Denise is about to have a kid.
704
00:38:51,037 --> 00:38:52,663
- Far out.
- Yeah.
705
00:38:52,705 --> 00:38:54,331
- Good for her.
- Yeah.
706
00:38:54,373 --> 00:38:56,333
Gonna spoil my nephew.
707
00:38:56,375 --> 00:38:58,002
Get him a fucking pony
or some shit.
708
00:38:58,044 --> 00:38:59,670
Not bad.
709
00:39:01,005 --> 00:39:02,548
Well, what's your new grind?
710
00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:04,300
I know you're not still
working at the theater?
711
00:39:06,677 --> 00:39:09,972
Um, busboy-ing...
712
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,726
at this high-class joint.
713
00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:17,313
Downtown. Killer tips.
714
00:39:18,814 --> 00:39:22,485
Don't bullshit me.
I know you.
715
00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:29,825
All right.
716
00:39:33,454 --> 00:39:34,997
I started, uh,
717
00:39:35,873 --> 00:39:38,876
slinging grass for Billy.
718
00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:48,636
You and Billy really
still kicking it then, huh?
719
00:39:49,845 --> 00:39:53,015
Truth is I haven't seen him
in a while.
720
00:39:53,057 --> 00:39:56,519
But, uh, we got a good
operation going.
721
00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:01,857
Are you
taking care of yourself?
722
00:40:09,573 --> 00:40:10,574
Thanks.
723
00:40:11,742 --> 00:40:14,578
You know-- Um, shit.
724
00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:16,497
Um, I gotta go.
725
00:40:16,539 --> 00:40:18,833
I, uh, forgot something.
726
00:40:18,874 --> 00:40:21,544
No. Wait. Stay. Eat with me.
727
00:40:21,585 --> 00:40:25,548
I, I don't know
when I'm gonna be back.
728
00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:28,717
I'm sorry for being late.
729
00:41:17,474 --> 00:41:18,809
Robert Donnelly?
730
00:41:20,436 --> 00:41:24,148
I'm Lieutenant Joe Kozenczack,
Des Plaines P.D.
731
00:41:25,441 --> 00:41:26,650
I was hoping I could talk to you
732
00:41:26,692 --> 00:41:29,153
about your confrontation
with John Wayne Gacy.
733
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:33,157
Show me your badge.
734
00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:39,496
Closer, please.
735
00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:53,802
Was wondering
when one of you would show up.
736
00:42:05,231 --> 00:42:07,733
Well, I don't trust
anyone anymore.
737
00:42:08,275 --> 00:42:09,860
I don't care
if you're the mailman.
738
00:42:09,902 --> 00:42:11,946
I don't like walking
on the street too long either.
739
00:42:11,987 --> 00:42:14,865
It's something
that I'm working through.
740
00:42:17,534 --> 00:42:18,827
You know,
he had me laying face down
741
00:42:18,869 --> 00:42:20,621
on the back of his car
742
00:42:20,663 --> 00:42:22,539
for 10 to 15 minutes
743
00:42:22,581 --> 00:42:24,625
while he drove
back to his house.
744
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:30,839
It's amazing how one minute
can just feel like forever.
745
00:42:34,885 --> 00:42:36,512
You know, I,
I told the police this already,
746
00:42:36,553 --> 00:42:39,265
so I don't know why, why
I'm repeating myself right now.
747
00:42:39,306 --> 00:42:40,391
Lt. Kozenczak: I, I know.
748
00:42:40,432 --> 00:42:42,726
And I cannot apologize
enough for that.
749
00:42:44,937 --> 00:42:47,273
So, Robert,
I'm gonna need your help
750
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:49,858
to figure out
how this all happened.
751
00:42:55,281 --> 00:42:56,282
He offered me a drink.
752
00:42:58,075 --> 00:42:59,702
I refused.
753
00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:01,662
That's what set him off.
754
00:43:03,872 --> 00:43:05,666
"You're a guest," he said.
755
00:43:06,333 --> 00:43:08,919
"You should accept
my hospitality."
756
00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:13,757
He told me the house
was soundproof.
757
00:43:13,966 --> 00:43:17,720
That he could kill me
and no one would ever know
758
00:43:17,761 --> 00:43:19,680
because he's a cop.
759
00:43:20,055 --> 00:43:21,557
He handcuffed me.
760
00:43:21,598 --> 00:43:24,977
He raped me over and over,
761
00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:28,731
first on the couch,
and then the bed later.
762
00:43:29,606 --> 00:43:32,651
And then he, uh, he, um...
763
00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:35,654
Lt. Kozenczak:
He dragged you to the bathtub.
764
00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:38,490
He held your head under water
until you blacked out.
765
00:43:38,532 --> 00:43:39,658
He urinated on you.
766
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:41,744
You read the report.
Okay. Okay.
767
00:43:43,037 --> 00:43:44,455
Lt. Kozenczak: Robert...
768
00:43:46,623 --> 00:43:48,375
it's all in there.
769
00:43:51,462 --> 00:43:54,006
Now that I know
about all these boys
770
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:55,299
and what happened to them...
771
00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:58,469
I just can't figure out
why he let me live.
772
00:43:59,636 --> 00:44:01,305
Why he, uh,
773
00:44:02,431 --> 00:44:05,309
drove me back to my job
and told me not to tell anyone
774
00:44:06,852 --> 00:44:08,312
because
they wouldn't believe me.
775
00:44:10,939 --> 00:44:12,316
Which was true.
776
00:44:16,111 --> 00:44:17,613
Nobody did.
777
00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:24,912
I wonder...
778
00:44:26,914 --> 00:44:29,375
if this is all
part of some bigger plan.
779
00:44:30,376 --> 00:44:31,543
To make it right.
780
00:44:33,003 --> 00:44:34,922
Nothing can be made right.
781
00:44:35,672 --> 00:44:39,968
All we can do is make sure
this just doesn't happen again.
782
00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:46,100
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