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The things
he did to those kids,
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he's confessed to it twice now.
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There is also the matter
of my co-counsel.
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We're gonna need
a real nuts-and-bolts guy
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to keep shoveling off the shit
Kunkle throws our way.
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There is a petition
to remand my client
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to the psychiatric
hospices of Cermak Hospital.
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All we ask is that
he be held in emergency custody
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for psychiatric evaluation.
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The court agrees.
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I told cops, you did nothing!
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Where is he?
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Where is my boy?
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Parents reported
the boys missing.
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CPD kept doing nothing.
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Medical and dental records
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will be required
to identify the deceased.
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They dumped some of them,
off the side. Right here.
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Goddamn fairies.
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Faggots
brought it on themselves.
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He wasn't like that.
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Not like what they're saying
like those other boys.
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He wasn't like that.
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He was-- He was better
than what they're saying!
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I can do this. I, I can...
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I have to. Thank you.
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You don't.
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These are the X-rays.
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Um, one shows that root canal
he had that year.
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His infection.
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The other's for the gold crown.
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I have earlier images, but I--
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I don't think they'll need them.
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Molds I took of his teeth.
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I made models, uh,
a couple of years ago.
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In, in case--
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Well, after he disappeared.
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In case...
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No. No, no, no, no.
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No, no, no.
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No. No. No, no, no.
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{\an8}This case is gonna be built
by digging through case law.
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{\an8}It's actually
extremely exciting.
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{\an8}Fucking tedious.
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{\an8}All right. Be straight with me.
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What did Gacy confess to police?
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All of it. All the murders.
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Thirty-two of 'em.
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If it's even the right number.
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How the hell'd
you let that happen?
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My team meet him.
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You get a copy
of the confession from police?
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Did Gacy sign it?
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Nope. Nothing to sign, Bob.
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Police didn't have him
write it down or record it.
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He just kept talking
like a fucking looney tune.
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Des Plaines
just jotted down notes.
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Oh, hang on a minute.
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You're saying
all I got is some notes?
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Confession didn't happen.
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They could've said
whatever they wanted.
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- Holy shit.
- When they got--
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They got nothing to prove
Gacy said anything.
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Plus,
you said he was distressed.
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You said taking pills,
he's drinking heavily
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could be improper
exertion of influence.
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Right now,
all they got evidence of
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is that Gacy was illegally
operating a graveyard.
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I mean, we still gotta
build up a defense.
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Insanity is the way to go.
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No other way.
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I mean, look.
The good news is
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half the shrinks in the country
are begging for a crack at him.
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He's like the fucking
Mona Lisa to these people.
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Prosecution's
entitled to run their own tests
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with their own professionals,
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but I think
we worry about that later.
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I mean,
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there isn't a world
where he's anything
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but fucking crazy, right?
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{\an8}Lt. Kozenczak:
Gacy. G-A-C-Y.
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{\an8}Any reports on his sentencing,
incarceration,
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{\an8}and his release
from Anamosa State?
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Yes. Thank you.
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Fax it over as soon as possible.
Thank you.
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Lt. Kozenczak:
Appreciate your time, Frank.
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{\an8}Yeah. Helluva way to start your
tenure as Chief of Detectives.
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{\an8}They're, uh, calling it
the "Crime of a Century."
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- Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know?
- Yeah. I do.
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So how can I help?
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{\an8}Our investigation recovered
Gacy's company payroll.
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{\an8}And Detective Tovar here
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{\an8}was looking into
some of the employees listed.
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A few of them were reported
missing to your division
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around the same time.
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We're hoping to get
some clarification on
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what was known about Gacy
and when it was known by CPD.
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God, I think it's fair to say
nothing was on here, Joe.
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Otherwise, we'd intervened.
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Det. Tovar: I'm sorry.
You guys dropped the ball.
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You know that. We know that.
Let's just--
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Let's just get this straight
here. It's our ass, too.
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We're not trying to pin
anything on Chicago...
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It sounds like it.
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Help us understand this.
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A man convicted
of sodomizing a teen boy
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is paroled early to Chicago.
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And then his teenage,
male employees
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start disappearing
from the area.
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And nobody in your department
looks into the guy?
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Nobody taps our officers,
lets us know
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there might be somebody in
our neighborhood hurting kids?
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The families, they're
gonna want an explanation.
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And what
we are trying to say is that
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we are more than willing
to be the first line of defense
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if you can help us
fill in these gaps.
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{\an8}You, uh, you know
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{\an8}we don't treat every missing
kid as a homicide, right?
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{\an8}Teenagers, especially.
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{\an8}Last year in Chicago, 19,000
kids go missing, 18,000 return,
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{\an8}and blow off a little steam,
they come home.
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Except the thousand who don't.
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The Szyc kid, I understand.
There's no direct link to Gacy.
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Then you have
Butkovich's father,
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and then the parents
of the other missing employee...
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Yeah. Greg Godzik.
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Yeah, we looked into it.
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Both families.
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We have both families
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saying that they were
calling CPD, nonstop.
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Mentioning Gacy.
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Yeah. I--
I've read the reports, Joe.
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We visited Gacy, oh yeah.
Looked into him.
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Det. Tovar: Sometimes.
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But these weren't kids.
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They're teenagers.
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And no known violence
had occurred.
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No record of foul play.
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No reason...
Det. Tovar: We were told--
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...to request
Gacy's record whatsoever.
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We were told by both families
that they were adamant to CPD
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that Gacy has something
to do with it.
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Nobody thought
the two missing persons
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linked to the same man was odd?
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It was just
chalked up to coincidence.
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This isn't Des Plaines.
It's Chicago.
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It's a fucking sprawl.
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Butkovich was from
Police Area Six, north side.
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The Godziks are from Area Five,
northwest side.
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So you got Marko Butkovich
calling Area Six about his son.
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You got the Godziks
calling Area Five about theirs.
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Sure. Both reports mentioned
a man named Gacy,
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but how are
two different officers
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in two different locations
supposed to know that?
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When I was at vice, we shared
whatever information we had.
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Vice? Yeah. That's why
you're such a fucking asshole.
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Vice is where we sent
cowboys and mutts
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who can't be fucking muzzled.
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You know,
part of being a leader
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is controlling
your subordinate, Joe.
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I'm sitting on potentially
dozens of bodies
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that need to be identified,
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and I've run out of road.
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Files on every missing kid
that fits Gacy's M.O.,
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that would be a great help.
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Plus, anything
you have on Gacy himself.
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Well, there's a system.
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Lotta paperwork,
gonna take some time.
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Weeks, months...
- Uh-hmm.
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I understand the system.
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{\an8}I would consider it a favor
for whatever that is worth.
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{\an8}Ship all the files
for every missing kid
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{\an8}from 1970 to now
over to Des Plaines.
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Well, you got it.
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But you'll see, most of these
kids are just troubled.
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singer: * Well, I've been ♪
♪ lookin' real hard... ♪
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Where are you two headed?
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♪ ...and I'm tryin' ♪
♪ to find a job ♪
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♪ But it just keeps... ♪
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- You wanna take us?
- ♪ Gettin' tougher every day ♪
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♪ But I got to do my part ♪
- Hop in.
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♪ ...'cause I know ♪
♪ in my heart I got... ♪
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♪ ...to please ♪
♪ my sweet baby, yeah ♪
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♪ Well, I ain't superstitious ♪
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♪ And I don't get suspicious ♪
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♪ But my woman ♪
♪ is a friend of mine ♪
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♪ And I know that it's true ♪
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♪ That all the things ♪
♪ that I do ♪
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♪ Will come back to me ♪
♪ in my sweet time ♪
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♪ So keep on rock'n me ♪
♪ baby ♪
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♪ Keep on rock'n me ♪
♪ baby ♪
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♪ Keep on... ♪
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You don't wanna
rent some skates?
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Come out here?
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Don't have enough cash.
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It's Billy, right?
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You got a fancy car, too?
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Uh, no.
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How can you afford
to fill that thing up with gas
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if you can't afford to skate?
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Maybe that's why
I can't afford to, honey.
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You think of that?
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I'm sorry.
Danny has a sharp tongue,
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and he thinks it's a gift.
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What's your gift?
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Outrunning cops.
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Can I come with you?
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Please?
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You from Chicago?
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Yeah. But, uh, my family,
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we lived away for a while,
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but I missed the city,
so I came back.
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What was that your friend
was saying?
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About you and cops?
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He's trying to embarrass me.
singer: * All my friends ♪
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♪ They tell me don't... *
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Who'd you steal that car from?
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♪ But I've been ♪
♪ around in the world... ♪
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If I tell you, will you
go to dinner with me?
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♪ Why? Why, oh, why? ♪
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I'm happy to have you
on the team.
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That's a helluva 'stache
you got on you.
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You do somethin' with it?
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Put somethin' in it
to make it so full?
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Soap and water.
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Hah. Good on you.
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All right. Here she is.
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Lot of very accomplished,
intelligent psychiatrists
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wanted to meet with you, John.
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Fought for it even.
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Dr. Deborah Healy
is the best out of California.
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Flew out here just to see you.
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Oh.
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All right then.
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You're the lucky winner.
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Step right up, head-shrinker.
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It's good to meet you.
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I'm not being rude. Just...
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You're not gonna try anything,
are you?
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I've always
had a thing for blondes.
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I suppose that's a no then.
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There you go.
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That's better.
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Before Bob and I go,
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we just wanna make sure that
you understand the prosecution
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will make use
of this evaluation. Okay?
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Everything you say
will be on the record.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm happy to talk to whoever,
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get the story straight,
you know?
251
00:14:00,590 --> 00:14:02,425
Put the blame where it belongs.
252
00:14:05,053 --> 00:14:07,931
All right. Have fun.
253
00:14:16,731 --> 00:14:18,233
So,
254
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,445
what do you want to know?
255
00:14:29,494 --> 00:14:31,371
{\an8}Dr. Healy:
A good childhood then.
256
00:14:31,413 --> 00:14:34,457
{\an8}I loved my father.
And he loved me.
257
00:14:34,499 --> 00:14:36,251
He was just from the old-school.
258
00:14:36,584 --> 00:14:39,087
A strong man. Strong views.
259
00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:42,048
Guess you could call him
somethin' of a disciplinarian.
260
00:14:47,137 --> 00:14:48,722
Fair to say that he beat you?
261
00:14:51,599 --> 00:14:52,976
Put it this way.
262
00:14:53,018 --> 00:14:55,562
Pop liked his drink,
liked his sports,
263
00:14:55,603 --> 00:14:58,023
liked his son
actin' like a man.
264
00:14:58,064 --> 00:15:01,443
But I liked gardening,
baking with my ma.
265
00:15:01,484 --> 00:15:04,195
I was sickly.
Couldn't throw a ball.
266
00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:07,240
And the things I liked...
267
00:15:12,203 --> 00:15:14,748
Dr. Healy:
You like wearing the panties?
268
00:15:14,789 --> 00:15:17,250
Maybe enjoyed dressing
like a woman?
269
00:15:17,292 --> 00:15:20,587
Hell no.
270
00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:22,088
God. No.
271
00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:23,590
The feel is all.
272
00:15:23,631 --> 00:15:25,467
I stole 'em for the feel.
273
00:15:41,691 --> 00:15:45,195
Dr. Healy: You buried them?
Under the house?
274
00:15:45,236 --> 00:15:47,697
Why not borrow the panties?
275
00:15:47,739 --> 00:15:49,574
Return them to the drawer?
276
00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:52,327
There was no
putting them back
277
00:15:53,078 --> 00:15:57,123
because I'd use them for,
uh, for private sex.
278
00:15:58,291 --> 00:16:01,503
"Private sex"? Masturbation?
279
00:16:02,337 --> 00:16:04,089
Boys will be boys.
280
00:16:07,258 --> 00:16:10,095
This is your typical
Oedipus complex.
281
00:16:11,763 --> 00:16:13,139
Jesus Christ.
282
00:16:13,181 --> 00:16:14,391
Let me explain it to you.
283
00:16:14,432 --> 00:16:16,643
It's an obsession
with the mother.
284
00:16:16,685 --> 00:16:19,312
It's a competition
with the father, yada yada.
285
00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:20,480
I know all about this stuff
286
00:16:20,522 --> 00:16:22,065
'cause I read lots of books
in psychology.
287
00:16:22,107 --> 00:16:23,650
I could recommend some to you.
288
00:16:24,484 --> 00:16:26,361
That's very kind.
289
00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:30,365
I can pretend to be a virgin
if it's ruinin' your fun.
290
00:16:30,407 --> 00:16:32,450
Give you the feelin' you're
poppin' my head cherry?
291
00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:34,327
No need to pretend.
292
00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:37,706
It's good to talk to someone
so knowledgeable.
293
00:16:40,083 --> 00:16:41,292
May I ask, John.
294
00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:44,254
Your mother caught you.
Were you punished?
295
00:16:46,381 --> 00:16:47,507
Yeah.
296
00:16:47,757 --> 00:16:48,800
And the old man never quit
297
00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:50,635
tryin' to beat
the sissy out of me.
298
00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:54,848
But I got older.
Got tired of it.
299
00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:56,683
Always dealing with him.
300
00:16:56,725 --> 00:16:59,185
Like a different person
when he was drinking.
301
00:16:59,436 --> 00:17:03,773
And this one night,
he wrestled me to the ground.
302
00:17:04,733 --> 00:17:06,192
He was drunk.
303
00:17:06,234 --> 00:17:08,194
He was cursing at me,
beating on me,
304
00:17:08,236 --> 00:17:09,779
but I managed to get
on top of him
305
00:17:09,821 --> 00:17:12,657
and hold him down. All right?
306
00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:13,992
And he was screaming at me.
307
00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:17,328
"Hit me!" He was saying,
"Hit me! Come on. Hit me!"
308
00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:19,581
Calling me a coward.
"Hit me, you coward!"
309
00:17:19,622 --> 00:17:21,124
Did you hit him?
310
00:17:25,503 --> 00:17:27,213
I only held him down.
311
00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:29,382
Just held him there.
312
00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:37,140
Told him, "I love you.
313
00:17:39,934 --> 00:17:42,103
I won't hit you. I love you."
314
00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:50,111
I took off that night.
315
00:17:51,154 --> 00:17:54,240
I figured if I left and
made somethin' of myself,
316
00:17:54,282 --> 00:17:55,450
I'd come back
317
00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:57,619
and he'd have a reason
to be proud of me.
318
00:17:58,870 --> 00:18:00,872
I made my way to Sin City.
319
00:18:00,914 --> 00:18:02,582
It sounded so neat.
320
00:18:02,624 --> 00:18:04,626
What was your plan?
321
00:18:04,668 --> 00:18:06,378
Oh, I didn't have one.
322
00:18:06,836 --> 00:18:09,589
No. I just focused
on trying to find work,
323
00:18:09,631 --> 00:18:12,425
and it was a lot harder
than I figured.
324
00:18:12,467 --> 00:18:15,679
I tried banks, schools, casinos.
325
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,847
Nobody would hire me
because I was underage.
326
00:18:17,889 --> 00:18:19,265
I almost tucked tail,
turned around,
327
00:18:19,307 --> 00:18:22,560
went back home,
but then, a miracle.
328
00:18:24,229 --> 00:18:25,730
{\an8}They were
lookin' for a janitor.
329
00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:28,566
I met the mortician, Ben.
330
00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:30,610
He seemed
real hesitant at first,
331
00:18:30,652 --> 00:18:32,320
but I told him that
not everything in life
332
00:18:32,362 --> 00:18:33,905
is about a diploma.
333
00:18:33,947 --> 00:18:36,408
Sometimes it's about passion,
and drive,
334
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:37,659
and a way with people.
335
00:18:37,701 --> 00:18:39,786
I didn't need
some fancy diploma.
336
00:18:39,828 --> 00:18:42,205
I had people skills.
337
00:18:42,247 --> 00:18:44,582
And he saw that.
He hired me on the spot.
338
00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:46,292
Janitor/night watchman.
339
00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:49,671
Yeah, I was just a teenager
movin' up in the world.
340
00:18:49,713 --> 00:18:52,465
I was so, so damn excited.
341
00:19:00,223 --> 00:19:01,641
He even gave me a cot,
342
00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:03,852
let me sleep right next to where
he did the embalming.
343
00:19:05,687 --> 00:19:06,896
So he believed in me.
344
00:19:06,938 --> 00:19:08,440
Understood I was a hard worker.
345
00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:10,692
I was working the night shift,
7:00 to 7:00.
346
00:19:11,443 --> 00:19:12,819
Also,
347
00:19:12,861 --> 00:19:16,865
I got a chance to learn some,
watching him work.
348
00:20:02,410 --> 00:20:03,661
Dr. Healy: John?
349
00:20:05,455 --> 00:20:06,539
John?
350
00:20:08,291 --> 00:20:09,417
John?
351
00:20:12,045 --> 00:20:13,755
Everything okay?
352
00:20:17,592 --> 00:20:21,680
Yeah. Yeah, just a nice memory.
353
00:20:32,607 --> 00:20:34,818
{\an8}It was my grandfather's.
Oh, that's nice.
354
00:20:34,859 --> 00:20:37,696
{\an8}You're gonna steal it?
355
00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:41,032
You don't look like a thief.
356
00:20:41,074 --> 00:20:42,242
Uh, okay.
357
00:20:42,283 --> 00:20:44,661
What does a--
What does a thief look like?
358
00:20:45,995 --> 00:20:49,708
You dress well,
and you're polite.
359
00:20:49,958 --> 00:20:51,543
Well, that--
Yeah, okay.
360
00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:53,294
Thank you.
361
00:20:53,336 --> 00:20:55,046
That's my mom.
She's, uh,
362
00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:59,384
always on me about
taking pride in my appearance.
363
00:20:59,843 --> 00:21:01,845
She taught me how to iron,
how to crease my clothes.
364
00:21:01,886 --> 00:21:04,472
Hmm. Where is she?
365
00:21:04,514 --> 00:21:07,350
Uh, Ohio with my siblings.
366
00:21:08,018 --> 00:21:09,769
How many are you?
367
00:21:10,478 --> 00:21:11,813
Uh, five.
368
00:21:12,355 --> 00:21:14,816
And I'm the oldest,
so, uh,
369
00:21:14,858 --> 00:21:16,651
you know,
I kind of raised them.
370
00:21:16,985 --> 00:21:19,779
My, uh,
my mom was always working.
371
00:21:20,363 --> 00:21:22,782
And so, uh,
every day after school,
372
00:21:22,824 --> 00:21:24,492
I was alone with them
when they were little, you know?
373
00:21:24,534 --> 00:21:25,952
So they'd
always be tugging on me
374
00:21:25,994 --> 00:21:27,454
and asking me for stuff,
375
00:21:27,495 --> 00:21:30,957
like toys and candy
and chips, whatever.
376
00:21:30,999 --> 00:21:34,127
And, and I felt bad 'cause
I didn't have any money.
377
00:21:34,169 --> 00:21:38,089
So, so I started stealing
the stuff they were asking for.
378
00:21:39,924 --> 00:21:42,344
I realized it was pretty easy.
I was good at it.
379
00:21:44,888 --> 00:21:46,890
You ever worry
you'll get caught?
380
00:21:48,391 --> 00:21:50,060
Yeah,
I've been caught a few times.
381
00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:53,938
My mom made a point
not to bail me out,
382
00:21:54,147 --> 00:21:55,732
but you learn from it.
383
00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:58,777
You figure out what to do
to not get caught the next time.
384
00:21:59,194 --> 00:22:02,822
What matters is you make it home
at the end of the night.
385
00:22:06,451 --> 00:22:08,828
I feel like
you've lived so much.
386
00:22:10,622 --> 00:22:11,956
We'll, you're a girl.
387
00:22:12,207 --> 00:22:15,669
When you're a girl,
everybody helps you,
388
00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:17,545
get you back on track.
389
00:22:18,046 --> 00:22:21,132
If you're in trouble,
people assume the best of you.
390
00:22:21,174 --> 00:22:24,928
If you're a guy,
they assume the worst.
391
00:22:26,096 --> 00:22:29,599
Be told to man up,
figure it out.
392
00:22:31,935 --> 00:22:33,812
I've never
thought of it like that.
393
00:22:34,896 --> 00:22:37,691
It's okay. I figured it out.
394
00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:41,736
I got a place,
I got nice clothes, I can eat.
395
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:43,822
Take out a pretty girl.
396
00:22:48,618 --> 00:22:49,911
Okay. You ready?
397
00:22:51,955 --> 00:22:53,081
For what?
398
00:22:54,082 --> 00:22:55,625
It's time to dash.
399
00:22:58,545 --> 00:22:59,754
No.
400
00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:02,215
But now I'm kind of
giving away the gambit,
401
00:23:02,257 --> 00:23:04,217
come on, we gotta go.
- Right.
402
00:23:19,983 --> 00:23:21,526
You didn't hold your tongue
downtown,
403
00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:22,569
why are you doing it now?
404
00:23:23,945 --> 00:23:25,030
It's nothing.
405
00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:26,781
Stop lookin' at me like that.
406
00:23:30,618 --> 00:23:32,746
I just didn't know you were
such a kiss-ass is all.
407
00:23:32,787 --> 00:23:33,955
Okay.
408
00:23:35,707 --> 00:23:38,001
CPD didn't kill those kids
and neither did you.
409
00:23:38,043 --> 00:23:40,462
So put down your pitchfork
and your cross
410
00:23:40,503 --> 00:23:41,796
and start flipping
through the pages,
411
00:23:41,838 --> 00:23:43,590
you son of a bitch.
- Why are you defending them?
412
00:23:43,631 --> 00:23:45,216
It's a massive department.
413
00:23:45,258 --> 00:23:47,677
This was not on purpose.
It wasn't malicious.
414
00:23:47,719 --> 00:23:49,095
Gacy fell through the cracks.
415
00:23:49,137 --> 00:23:51,181
Timmons said it himself.
You heard him.
416
00:23:51,598 --> 00:23:53,933
He told us that we're gonna
go through all these files,
417
00:23:53,975 --> 00:23:55,560
and we're gonna see that
all these kids were troubled.
418
00:23:55,602 --> 00:23:57,520
Yeah, they're troubled.
419
00:23:57,562 --> 00:24:00,774
Drugs, runaways,
gangs, delinquents.
420
00:24:00,815 --> 00:24:02,108
Timmons was right.
- Exactly.
421
00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:04,819
That's my fucking point.
- Finally, a fucking point.
422
00:24:04,861 --> 00:24:08,490
All right. Police Area 73
doesn't communicate
423
00:24:08,531 --> 00:24:10,867
with Police Area 773, fine.
424
00:24:10,909 --> 00:24:12,369
But how about this?
425
00:24:12,410 --> 00:24:14,662
How many pages are in each
of those files, give or take?
426
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,500
I don't know. Couple.
427
00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:20,001
That's what I'm saying.
428
00:24:20,377 --> 00:24:22,504
There's fucking nothing in here.
429
00:24:23,129 --> 00:24:28,009
Two pages. Two pages.
Three pages.
430
00:24:29,010 --> 00:24:32,639
Most of these are just the
initial missing persons report.
431
00:24:32,681 --> 00:24:33,848
There's no field interviews,
432
00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:35,100
there's no contact
with the person
433
00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:36,142
that reported them missing.
434
00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:37,310
Chicago didn't follow up.
435
00:24:37,352 --> 00:24:38,520
This?
436
00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:41,523
You would really
not have to give a fuck
437
00:24:41,564 --> 00:24:43,024
to wind up with one page.
438
00:24:45,902 --> 00:24:47,612
But you don't get it.
439
00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:49,072
And it's not your fault
that you don't get it.
440
00:24:49,114 --> 00:24:50,699
You're not in the muck.
441
00:24:51,366 --> 00:24:53,118
You didn't have
Marko Butkovich's spit
442
00:24:53,159 --> 00:24:55,578
all over your face, all right?
443
00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:56,996
You're making this personal.
444
00:24:57,038 --> 00:24:58,623
Well, fuck yeah, I am.
445
00:24:59,708 --> 00:25:01,084
And that's not my fault.
446
00:25:02,085 --> 00:25:03,211
rookie cop: Sorry.
447
00:25:04,045 --> 00:25:05,005
What?
448
00:25:05,046 --> 00:25:06,131
Body we ID'd?
449
00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:09,009
Godzik? Mom's here.
450
00:25:09,050 --> 00:25:11,720
Wants to talk to somebody.
451
00:25:12,721 --> 00:25:15,598
She's got her kid's
dental records and teeth.
452
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:19,227
Lt. Kozenczak: I can go do this.
453
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:22,814
Det. Tovar:
No. It's not your job.
454
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:10,820
Now, when you came home,
how did--
455
00:26:16,326 --> 00:26:18,244
Excuse me for a moment.
456
00:26:24,334 --> 00:26:28,129
Sorry. I know
I have another pen somewhere.
457
00:26:33,009 --> 00:26:35,011
Yes. Vegas.
458
00:26:35,512 --> 00:26:38,765
How did your family react
when you came home?
459
00:26:40,350 --> 00:26:42,018
This is a mess.
460
00:26:46,856 --> 00:26:49,401
Is it bothering you?
461
00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:52,362
Better question is,
why isn't it bothering you?
462
00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:55,240
If cleanliness is godliness,
463
00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:57,242
you're a goddamn heathen,
aren't you?
464
00:27:02,997 --> 00:27:04,874
You're not gonna tidy up?
465
00:27:06,084 --> 00:27:07,335
Clean it.
466
00:27:10,338 --> 00:27:11,423
Clean it!
467
00:27:35,155 --> 00:27:36,448
The jacket.
468
00:27:48,376 --> 00:27:50,086
Ma forgave me.
469
00:27:50,337 --> 00:27:54,049
And Pop felt it was time
to move out, find a girl.
470
00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:55,342
And he wasn't wrong.
471
00:27:56,259 --> 00:27:58,803
I wanted to show him that
I could do okay for myself
472
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,221
on my own.
473
00:28:00,263 --> 00:28:02,932
I found a job at a men's
clothing store not too far,
474
00:28:02,974 --> 00:28:04,225
in Springfield.
475
00:28:05,018 --> 00:28:07,354
And that's where
I met my first wife.
476
00:28:18,406 --> 00:28:21,159
Had such a nice,
warm feeling with Marlynn.
477
00:28:21,785 --> 00:28:24,579
I always wanted to be a father,
a family man,
478
00:28:24,621 --> 00:28:26,122
and I finally was.
479
00:28:32,087 --> 00:28:33,296
I loved the kids.
480
00:28:33,338 --> 00:28:35,090
It's hard being away from them.
481
00:28:35,131 --> 00:28:37,926
- You, you were away often?
- Oh.
482
00:28:37,967 --> 00:28:41,221
Well, my father-in-law put me
in charge of his restaurants.
483
00:28:42,138 --> 00:28:45,141
Dr. Healy: So he clearly
liked you, respected you?
484
00:28:45,183 --> 00:28:47,268
No,
I don't know about that.
485
00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:49,854
I think he just wanted what
was best for his little girl.
486
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,274
Was your father-in-law
difficult to impress?
487
00:28:53,316 --> 00:28:56,861
He was demanding.
He didn't approve of me easy.
488
00:28:57,445 --> 00:29:00,365
So you inherited
another father figure
489
00:29:00,407 --> 00:29:02,242
whose approval
you couldn't earn?
490
00:29:02,283 --> 00:29:04,411
No, no.
491
00:29:04,452 --> 00:29:06,496
No, my father-in-law
was tough on me,
492
00:29:06,538 --> 00:29:07,956
but, uh--
493
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:11,501
Shit.
494
00:29:12,877 --> 00:29:14,212
You're real good.
495
00:29:17,048 --> 00:29:19,175
Well,
whatever it was with him,
496
00:29:19,217 --> 00:29:20,343
it helped with my dad.
497
00:29:22,512 --> 00:29:24,639
'Cause Ma told him
how well I was doin'
498
00:29:24,681 --> 00:29:27,225
and he just had to come
see it for himself.
499
00:29:50,165 --> 00:29:52,292
He was proud of me that day.
500
00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:54,336
I know he was.
501
00:29:54,669 --> 00:29:56,212
Because he told me so.
502
00:29:56,254 --> 00:29:58,381
We were sitting there
splittin' a bucket of biscuits
503
00:29:58,423 --> 00:30:00,383
and he looked me
dead in the eye,
504
00:30:00,425 --> 00:30:03,470
and he says,
"I was wrong about you, John.
505
00:30:03,511 --> 00:30:05,305
Good wife,
good kids, good job.
506
00:30:05,347 --> 00:30:09,267
You done good."
Just like that.
507
00:30:11,686 --> 00:30:13,396
"You done good."
508
00:30:15,732 --> 00:30:17,525
Was on top of the world.
509
00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:20,528
Around that time is when I got
hooked up with the Jaycees.
510
00:30:22,489 --> 00:30:26,910
singer:
♪ Loneliness and sorrow ♪
511
00:30:27,118 --> 00:30:28,244
The social club?
512
00:30:28,286 --> 00:30:31,373
Social club?
Jaycees is about politics.
513
00:30:31,414 --> 00:30:34,709
Means for young men to get
into a network of professionals.
514
00:30:34,751 --> 00:30:37,045
You wind up meetin'
important people,
515
00:30:37,087 --> 00:30:38,922
organizin' charitable events
together.
516
00:30:38,963 --> 00:30:40,548
You have a love for politics.
517
00:30:40,590 --> 00:30:42,384
Politics is about power.
518
00:30:42,425 --> 00:30:44,386
Power depends on consent.
519
00:30:44,427 --> 00:30:45,595
That's a quote from
520
00:30:45,637 --> 00:30:48,223
"Main Currents
in Modern Political Thought."
521
00:30:48,932 --> 00:30:52,519
Lotta folks don't know
that's all politics is.
522
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,563
The feelin' of bein' important,
that people trust you.
523
00:30:55,772 --> 00:30:57,607
And you like power.
524
00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:00,110
Don't you?
525
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:04,698
You sittin' there,
526
00:31:05,365 --> 00:31:07,617
jottin' whatever you're jottin'.
527
00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:12,163
Judgin' me
when you don't even know me?
528
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:18,503
At one point,
the head of our chapter,
529
00:31:18,545 --> 00:31:21,131
he asked me personally for
my help recruitin' new members.
530
00:31:21,172 --> 00:31:22,632
That's how much they trusted me.
531
00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:27,303
After a while, I got this
notion to start showin' films
532
00:31:27,345 --> 00:31:29,264
after our meetings
to draw interest.
533
00:31:45,238 --> 00:31:48,450
all: Whoa!
534
00:31:49,284 --> 00:31:50,285
man 1: Let's go!
535
00:31:50,827 --> 00:31:51,786
man 2: Yeah!
536
00:31:51,828 --> 00:31:54,164
all: Woo-hoo!
537
00:31:55,707 --> 00:31:57,584
Membership tripled.
538
00:32:00,795 --> 00:32:02,297
You like stag films?
539
00:32:02,339 --> 00:32:04,049
Never seen one.
540
00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:05,759
Oh, my God.
541
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,135
Yeah?
542
00:32:08,178 --> 00:32:10,096
Okay. Uh-huh.
543
00:32:10,138 --> 00:32:12,182
You can't bullshit
a bullshitter.
544
00:32:15,769 --> 00:32:19,314
Anyway, everybody agreed
there was no harm in it,
545
00:32:19,356 --> 00:32:21,149
and it kind of snowballed,
546
00:32:21,191 --> 00:32:23,443
and this idea of wife swapping
came up.
547
00:32:23,818 --> 00:32:25,653
Even got Marlynn into it.
548
00:32:25,695 --> 00:32:27,238
And all of a sudden,
549
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,324
I could fuck whoever I wanted.
550
00:32:29,866 --> 00:32:31,659
Even other men's wives.
551
00:32:31,701 --> 00:32:34,329
That's just how powerful I was.
552
00:32:34,371 --> 00:32:37,290
Plus, I had good standin'
in the community,
553
00:32:37,332 --> 00:32:39,334
so I thought I might as well
554
00:32:39,376 --> 00:32:41,628
run for president
of the Waterloo Jaycees.
555
00:32:45,507 --> 00:32:47,801
And that's how I met
Don Vorhees.
556
00:32:48,343 --> 00:32:50,303
Local politician.
557
00:32:50,345 --> 00:32:53,056
Offered to be
my campaign manager.
558
00:33:01,815 --> 00:33:04,317
Met him and his son.
559
00:33:19,874 --> 00:33:22,335
One day I was drivin', right?
560
00:33:22,377 --> 00:33:23,545
Just goin' about my day.
561
00:33:23,586 --> 00:33:26,381
I saw his son,
Don Jr., hitchhikin'.
562
00:33:26,423 --> 00:33:27,799
I give him a ride.
563
00:33:28,174 --> 00:33:30,135
Pickin' him up that day.
564
00:33:30,635 --> 00:33:34,222
Probably the worst mistake
of my life.
565
00:33:34,264 --> 00:33:36,850
Marlynn was out of town
visiting her mother at the time
566
00:33:36,891 --> 00:33:41,271
and Don Sr. was a nice guy,
I thought.
567
00:33:41,521 --> 00:33:44,107
So I assumed that his son
was a nice kid.
568
00:33:46,317 --> 00:33:48,278
I was dumb and stupid.
569
00:33:52,574 --> 00:33:54,451
Pop always said that to me,
570
00:33:54,492 --> 00:33:56,661
that I shouldn't be so dumb
and stupid.
571
00:33:56,703 --> 00:33:59,247
"Don't be so dumb and stupid,
John Wayne."
572
00:34:00,832 --> 00:34:02,334
I should have listened.
573
00:34:33,782 --> 00:34:35,742
Because I'm gullible like that.
574
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,329
That's my fault.
I just, I, I trust too easy.
575
00:34:39,662 --> 00:34:42,832
You feel this boy took
advantage of your good nature?
576
00:34:42,874 --> 00:34:44,876
Kid ruined my life.
577
00:34:44,918 --> 00:34:47,962
Just when things were going
perfect with my family, my pops.
578
00:34:48,004 --> 00:34:51,341
And for what?
He wanted it, I wanted it.
579
00:34:51,383 --> 00:34:53,927
Are you saying it was
a consensual relationship?
580
00:34:53,968 --> 00:34:56,304
- Damn right it was.
- He was a teenager.
581
00:34:56,346 --> 00:34:57,847
You were a man.
582
00:34:58,682 --> 00:35:01,768
Okay. See,
you don't understand.
583
00:35:01,810 --> 00:35:03,311
You don't understand at all.
584
00:35:03,353 --> 00:35:04,813
He and I had an agreement.
585
00:35:04,854 --> 00:35:06,648
I didn't force him
to do anything.
586
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:09,317
He asked for money
and I paid him.
587
00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:10,985
Then he wanted more.
588
00:35:11,027 --> 00:35:13,655
I says no, he starts talking
about telling his father,
589
00:35:13,697 --> 00:35:14,698
and that is blackmail.
590
00:35:14,739 --> 00:35:16,825
Pure and simple,
that is blackmail.
591
00:35:17,075 --> 00:35:19,828
And this is a fairy trait too,
you know.
592
00:35:20,036 --> 00:35:22,539
Lyin', flippin',
changing their word.
593
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:24,624
One moment this is okay,
the next it isn't.
594
00:35:24,666 --> 00:35:27,293
Or there isn't enough money
anymore. They're liars.
595
00:35:27,335 --> 00:35:30,213
You speak with great disdain
for fairies.
596
00:35:30,255 --> 00:35:31,923
You hate them. Why?
597
00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:33,425
They're weak.
598
00:35:33,466 --> 00:35:36,553
You feel as though you're
a different kind of homosexual?
599
00:35:39,723 --> 00:35:42,225
You've been listenin' to a word
that I've said?
600
00:35:42,851 --> 00:35:44,436
I'm not a homosexual.
601
00:35:44,686 --> 00:35:47,814
Sorry, it's only that you're
telling me you seek out men.
602
00:35:47,856 --> 00:35:49,232
I'm not a fuckin' fairy.
603
00:35:49,274 --> 00:35:51,693
But you spend money
to have sex with them.
604
00:35:51,735 --> 00:35:54,571
Christ's sake!
This is ridiculous.
605
00:35:55,572 --> 00:35:57,240
You are not listenin'.
606
00:35:57,782 --> 00:35:59,743
How can you get an accurate
account of my mind
607
00:35:59,784 --> 00:36:02,412
when you're not listenin'
to a thing that I'm tellin' you?
608
00:36:02,454 --> 00:36:03,788
This is sloppy.
609
00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:05,540
I'm gonna get on Sam about this.
610
00:36:05,582 --> 00:36:06,916
You're a woman
for cryin' out loud.
611
00:36:06,958 --> 00:36:08,418
You can't understand
how complicated
612
00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:10,253
gettin' off can be for a guy.
613
00:36:10,962 --> 00:36:13,715
They need a boy psychiatrist,
a male psychiatrist in here.
614
00:36:13,757 --> 00:36:15,925
I apologize. I was wrong.
615
00:36:16,468 --> 00:36:18,595
Wrong to assume
you're homosexual.
616
00:36:18,636 --> 00:36:21,681
That's-- That it's not
what you said to me.
617
00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:29,939
I'm not mad.
618
00:36:31,983 --> 00:36:33,818
I'm not mad at you, Deb.
619
00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:35,653
I'm sorry I lost it a bit.
620
00:36:36,321 --> 00:36:37,572
I'm trying to tell you,
you don't--
621
00:36:37,614 --> 00:36:39,449
You don't seem to understand me.
622
00:36:40,825 --> 00:36:42,035
And everybody's
getting this wrong.
623
00:36:42,077 --> 00:36:43,578
Everyone's getting me wrong.
624
00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:45,622
- That's frustrating.
- It is.
625
00:36:45,663 --> 00:36:47,332
And the thing is,
626
00:36:47,374 --> 00:36:49,626
I'm not the monster image that's
being portrayed in the papers.
627
00:36:49,668 --> 00:36:51,002
There's no truth to it.
628
00:36:51,628 --> 00:36:54,422
I was the one
taken advantage of.
629
00:36:54,631 --> 00:36:57,759
And that's what all the lawyers
and the cops are missing.
630
00:36:57,801 --> 00:37:01,721
Everyone's got this
tunnel vision for these guys
631
00:37:01,763 --> 00:37:03,973
that I was dealing with,
labeling them "victims"
632
00:37:04,015 --> 00:37:06,351
like they were altar boys
or something.
633
00:37:06,393 --> 00:37:07,977
The focus has all been on them.
634
00:37:08,019 --> 00:37:09,521
But what was done to you?
635
00:37:09,562 --> 00:37:13,066
Exactly. Exactly.
636
00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:15,318
And what I don't understand is,
637
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,779
why are you the first person
to ask me that, Deb?
638
00:37:19,989 --> 00:37:23,618
"Oh, oh,
please don't help Mr. Gacy.
639
00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:26,788
He's been blowing and jerking
and molesting me."
640
00:37:28,998 --> 00:37:31,042
The court was a joke.
641
00:37:31,084 --> 00:37:33,378
Do you know that
when the sentencing report
642
00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:35,046
came back
from Iowa State Hospital,
643
00:37:35,088 --> 00:37:37,757
they recommended
that I be given probation?
644
00:37:38,758 --> 00:37:40,093
Probation.
645
00:37:40,135 --> 00:37:42,345
Was never
supposed to go to prison.
646
00:37:42,804 --> 00:37:45,015
Then they
sentence me to ten years.
647
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:48,810
You know,
648
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,105
I don't even think
my pops was surprised.
649
00:37:53,690 --> 00:37:55,567
It was like he expected it.
650
00:37:58,028 --> 00:38:00,947
Said something about how he
had to work twice as hard now,
651
00:38:01,656 --> 00:38:04,075
to wipe out the blot
on his good name.
652
00:38:09,456 --> 00:38:11,041
I was the blot.
653
00:38:24,846 --> 00:38:26,848
Det. Fanholm:
Nice of you to join us.
654
00:38:28,016 --> 00:38:29,392
All right. Let's go.
655
00:38:29,434 --> 00:38:31,394
Let's make the most out
of the last hours of the day.
656
00:38:32,479 --> 00:38:33,480
I'll help.
657
00:38:41,988 --> 00:38:45,033
It wasn't a jab. I'd take
any excuse not to be here.
658
00:38:46,993 --> 00:38:49,871
Yeah, believe it or not,
I'd rather been here instead.
659
00:38:49,913 --> 00:38:51,331
Yeah, pretty easy day, really.
660
00:38:51,373 --> 00:38:52,874
One kid still had his shoes on,
661
00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:54,959
so he didn't spill any bones
anywhere.
662
00:39:03,009 --> 00:39:04,427
How was your Christmas?
663
00:39:07,889 --> 00:39:10,100
Got a couple of Dandyburgers.
664
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,268
Got a little drunk.
665
00:39:13,603 --> 00:39:15,313
Passed a lot out.
666
00:39:15,355 --> 00:39:17,023
How about yourself?
667
00:39:21,152 --> 00:39:23,029
I wasn't my best.
668
00:39:24,906 --> 00:39:25,990
Yeah?
669
00:39:28,451 --> 00:39:30,453
I couldn't really talk much
670
00:39:32,330 --> 00:39:34,082
and they all noticed.
671
00:39:40,422 --> 00:39:43,133
Growing up, all I wanted
was to push a black and white,
672
00:39:43,174 --> 00:39:45,969
catch bad guys, you know,
like in the movies.
673
00:39:48,054 --> 00:39:51,141
Yeah. How's that
working out for you?
674
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,561
I'm digging fucking bodies
up out of a floor.
675
00:39:59,149 --> 00:40:00,984
So pretty fucking good, huh?
676
00:40:04,487 --> 00:40:07,991
Yeah. Pretty fucking good.
677
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,142
Dr. Healy:
I imagine prison was
678
00:40:34,184 --> 00:40:37,354
{\an8}quite a shocking
experience for you,
679
00:40:37,395 --> 00:40:40,065
{\an8}given that you'd never have
been in legal trouble before.
680
00:40:41,232 --> 00:40:42,567
I was terrified.
681
00:40:43,151 --> 00:40:45,236
Worried someone
was gonna rape me.
682
00:40:45,528 --> 00:40:48,531
But I did everything I could to
make the best of a bad situation
683
00:40:48,573 --> 00:40:51,034
and restore honor
to my dad's name.
684
00:40:51,576 --> 00:40:56,247
After a while,
things ended up being fine.
685
00:40:56,289 --> 00:40:58,500
There's this,
this one older fella
686
00:40:59,376 --> 00:41:01,211
a few cells down from me.
687
00:41:01,544 --> 00:41:03,380
He's a real talented painter.
688
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,926
I'm better than him but,
he was still good.
689
00:41:07,967 --> 00:41:10,095
And I asked him
if he would paint
690
00:41:10,136 --> 00:41:13,098
my father's portrait from
a photo that I'd brought in.
691
00:41:13,765 --> 00:41:15,392
I wanted to gift it to him.
692
00:41:18,436 --> 00:41:21,356
He took his sweet-ass time.
693
00:41:21,398 --> 00:41:24,484
Had to keep on him.
Fucking artist.
694
00:41:25,402 --> 00:41:27,404
Took him three months to finish.
695
00:41:27,654 --> 00:41:30,365
My old man died
before I could give it to him.
696
00:41:31,574 --> 00:41:33,910
Christmas Day, '69.
697
00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:39,374
How'd you feel
when you found out he passed?
698
00:41:41,584 --> 00:41:45,505
Like I killed him.
The shame of it killed him.
699
00:41:45,922 --> 00:41:48,508
His death
profoundly affected you.
700
00:41:50,385 --> 00:41:52,095
He was my dad.
701
00:41:52,554 --> 00:41:54,556
How did you deal with it?
702
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:59,060
What? I'm not sure.
703
00:41:59,102 --> 00:42:03,356
Uh, I mean, that's life?
704
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:05,608
Shit happens?
705
00:42:08,570 --> 00:42:11,322
I got let out
a little while later. Paroled.
706
00:42:11,573 --> 00:42:13,491
Early. Remarkably early.
707
00:42:13,533 --> 00:42:15,243
Yeah. They knew
I didn't belong there.
708
00:42:15,285 --> 00:42:16,703
{\an8}Was a model inmate.
709
00:42:16,745 --> 00:42:19,039
{\an8}They studied me
like you're doing now.
710
00:42:19,372 --> 00:42:21,374
{\an8}Doctors, parole board.
711
00:42:22,167 --> 00:42:24,586
{\an8}They found me to be
a near-perfect case
712
00:42:24,627 --> 00:42:26,254
{\an8}of rehabilitation.
713
00:42:26,296 --> 00:42:28,256
{\an8}Figured I benefited society.
714
00:42:28,298 --> 00:42:30,550
Let me out after 18 months.
715
00:42:30,967 --> 00:42:35,138
And that says everything
you need to know right there.
716
00:42:41,644 --> 00:42:43,355
I just wish I could've
made him proud of me
717
00:42:43,396 --> 00:42:44,522
one more time.
718
00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:01,122
Never saw Marlynn
or my kids after that.
719
00:43:02,123 --> 00:43:03,792
- Why?
- She took them.
720
00:43:03,833 --> 00:43:05,168
Nothing I could do.
721
00:43:05,752 --> 00:43:08,296
It's fairly commonplace
in a divorce,
722
00:43:08,338 --> 00:43:10,423
fathers work something out,
723
00:43:10,465 --> 00:43:14,010
arrange to see their kids
on holidays, what have you.
724
00:43:14,386 --> 00:43:17,514
Even incarcerated people
still see their children.
725
00:43:17,847 --> 00:43:20,141
Did Marlynn prevent you
from seeing them
726
00:43:20,183 --> 00:43:21,351
or did you stay away?
727
00:43:21,601 --> 00:43:23,728
Uh, it just boils down to
she took them from me.
728
00:43:23,770 --> 00:43:27,065
I only ask because you were
so invested in being a father.
729
00:43:27,691 --> 00:43:28,858
I don't understand.
730
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:31,486
Just go back to that time,
in your mind,
731
00:43:31,528 --> 00:43:34,155
to how you felt
when you were released.
732
00:43:34,197 --> 00:43:36,533
I mean,
your kids were quite young.
733
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,078
You'd only been away
a year and a half.
734
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,663
You didn't reach out. Why?
735
00:43:41,705 --> 00:43:43,081
See,
you're going in circles now.
736
00:43:43,123 --> 00:43:45,250
Did some part of you
feel relieved they were gone?
737
00:43:45,291 --> 00:43:46,501
Okay.
We're not going into that.
738
00:43:46,543 --> 00:43:48,169
Knowing you had this proclivity
for young men,
739
00:43:48,211 --> 00:43:49,546
did you feel
it was for the best?
740
00:43:49,587 --> 00:43:51,381
No, we're not going into it.
741
00:43:51,881 --> 00:43:53,174
I was a family man.
742
00:43:53,216 --> 00:43:54,342
A happily married one. I just--
743
00:43:54,384 --> 00:43:55,719
I couldn't have the kids.
744
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,512
I was supposed to stay
near my mother.
745
00:43:57,554 --> 00:43:58,722
My mother.
746
00:43:58,763 --> 00:44:00,432
That's what the parole
recommendation was,
747
00:44:00,473 --> 00:44:01,474
so that's what I did.
748
00:44:01,516 --> 00:44:03,226
I did what I was told.
749
00:44:03,768 --> 00:44:06,354
Now, I could tell you
about that part if you want
750
00:44:06,396 --> 00:44:07,522
but you have to stop it
with this.
751
00:44:07,564 --> 00:44:09,149
You gotta knock it off.
752
00:44:13,403 --> 00:44:15,405
It's right around this time,
753
00:44:15,447 --> 00:44:17,240
by your own admission,
754
00:44:17,824 --> 00:44:20,368
that you murdered
the first young man.
755
00:44:20,410 --> 00:44:21,745
Self-defense.
756
00:44:22,704 --> 00:44:24,289
Will you tell me about it?
757
00:44:26,499 --> 00:44:28,710
Greyhound Bus Boy.
758
00:44:28,752 --> 00:44:30,628
Is that what you call him?
759
00:44:31,755 --> 00:44:33,840
Did this boy have a name?
760
00:44:38,511 --> 00:44:42,557
He must have.
I'm sure he did.
761
00:44:50,523 --> 00:44:52,359
Pervasive narcissism.
762
00:44:53,151 --> 00:44:56,529
Personality disorder
with obsessive-compulsive,
763
00:44:56,571 --> 00:44:59,449
antisocial and hypomanic
qualities.
764
00:44:59,657 --> 00:45:02,535
All compounded
by alcohol and drugs.
765
00:45:02,577 --> 00:45:04,829
Grandiose
sense of self-importance.
766
00:45:04,871 --> 00:45:07,874
Possibly borderline
psychopathic personality
767
00:45:07,916 --> 00:45:10,835
with episodes of paranoid
schizophrenia.
768
00:45:10,877 --> 00:45:12,754
Psycho-sexual conflicts,
769
00:45:12,796 --> 00:45:15,799
a pronounced feeling
of masculine inadequacy,
770
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,592
an alarming lack of empathy,
771
00:45:17,634 --> 00:45:19,260
ego disintegration,
772
00:45:19,302 --> 00:45:22,514
expressions of very hostile,
dangerous impulses.
773
00:45:27,936 --> 00:45:32,148
So? He's crazy, right?
774
00:45:32,816 --> 00:45:34,526
I've never seen
anything like it.
775
00:45:35,276 --> 00:45:36,319
Like him.
776
00:45:36,653 --> 00:45:38,321
I hope to never again.
777
00:45:47,497 --> 00:45:49,165
{\an8}Was there anything
in what he told you
778
00:45:49,207 --> 00:45:53,169
{\an8}that could explain
why he did this?
779
00:45:53,211 --> 00:45:55,463
Did he say why? No.
780
00:45:55,505 --> 00:45:57,799
But, uh,
I think he was killing off
781
00:45:57,841 --> 00:46:00,510
bits and pieces of himself
that he hated,
782
00:46:00,552 --> 00:46:02,470
that his father hated.
783
00:46:02,512 --> 00:46:05,181
Specifically, his homosexuality.
784
00:46:05,515 --> 00:46:07,642
We have to prove Gacy
has a condition.
785
00:46:07,684 --> 00:46:09,728
Loses control,
loses his grip on reality,
786
00:46:09,769 --> 00:46:13,189
prevents him from understanding
what he's doing is illegal.
787
00:46:13,231 --> 00:46:15,525
Does this evaluation
support that?
788
00:46:17,861 --> 00:46:20,947
When you consider
his various delusions,
789
00:46:20,989 --> 00:46:22,365
psychotic episodes,
790
00:46:22,407 --> 00:46:26,578
his complete lack of emotional
control under duress,
791
00:46:27,537 --> 00:46:29,497
I'd say it's entirely possible.
792
00:46:29,706 --> 00:46:31,332
And you'll testify to that?
793
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,715
I moved up my flight.
794
00:46:38,757 --> 00:46:40,675
Headed back this evening.
Great.
795
00:46:40,717 --> 00:46:42,844
Obviously,
I'll file my findings.
796
00:46:42,886 --> 00:46:45,680
Make myself available
as you need me.
797
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:49,225
O'Hare has a bar, right?
798
00:46:49,726 --> 00:46:51,603
Gate 38.
799
00:46:51,644 --> 00:46:52,687
Great.
800
00:46:54,356 --> 00:46:56,232
- Take care.
- You too.
801
00:47:05,742 --> 00:47:06,826
We are going with this.
802
00:47:06,868 --> 00:47:09,662
Every interview,
every piece of press
803
00:47:09,704 --> 00:47:11,039
that mentions John Wayne Gacy
804
00:47:11,081 --> 00:47:13,541
has got to include
the word psychotic.
805
00:47:13,583 --> 00:47:15,377
We drive home
how unstable he is.
806
00:47:15,418 --> 00:47:17,587
John Gacy, face of insanity.
807
00:47:17,629 --> 00:47:19,255
That's how we win.
808
00:47:24,135 --> 00:47:27,597
Is it a win if we win?
809
00:47:57,002 --> 00:47:58,628
Excuse me.
810
00:48:00,505 --> 00:48:02,424
You're Elizabeth Piest.
811
00:48:03,591 --> 00:48:05,427
- Yes?
- I saw you on TV.
812
00:48:05,468 --> 00:48:06,803
Robert's mother?
813
00:48:07,554 --> 00:48:10,056
I'm Eugenia Godzik,
814
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:12,726
Greg's mother.
815
00:48:18,356 --> 00:48:19,691
I-- Uh,
816
00:48:21,776 --> 00:48:23,445
I needed to see it.
817
00:48:24,112 --> 00:48:26,072
Doesn't seem real.
- Hmm.
818
00:48:26,489 --> 00:48:29,993
The whole time,
he was in there,
819
00:48:30,827 --> 00:48:32,579
twenty minutes away
820
00:48:33,788 --> 00:48:37,000
every day for two years.
- Hmm.
821
00:48:39,377 --> 00:48:40,879
Can you make sense of it?
822
00:48:44,591 --> 00:48:46,468
I went looking for Rob
823
00:48:47,761 --> 00:48:49,804
down by the river the other day.
824
00:48:50,764 --> 00:48:52,807
That's where he...
825
00:48:55,143 --> 00:48:57,979
threw him into the river.
826
00:49:00,690 --> 00:49:03,068
I don't know why I thought
I'd find Rob,
827
00:49:04,527 --> 00:49:07,113
but it was frozen.
828
00:49:08,782 --> 00:49:11,701
I have to wait till spring
to find my boy.
829
00:49:15,038 --> 00:49:18,375
The kind of-- How a man--
830
00:49:19,042 --> 00:49:21,586
The kind of evil that man is.
831
00:49:24,881 --> 00:49:27,050
I spoke to him.
832
00:49:27,092 --> 00:49:28,718
To Gacy?
833
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,553
Begged him for help.
834
00:49:31,054 --> 00:49:33,765
He was Greg's boss at the time.
835
00:49:36,142 --> 00:49:38,895
I called to ask him
if he'd seen my son
836
00:49:40,063 --> 00:49:41,940
and he told me Greg
had left a message
837
00:49:41,981 --> 00:49:43,149
on his answering machine
838
00:49:43,191 --> 00:49:46,194
days after I had
reported him missing,
839
00:49:46,236 --> 00:49:48,405
that he was probably fine.
840
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,992
When I asked him to play
the message for me,
841
00:49:55,954 --> 00:49:57,872
he said he'd erased it.
842
00:49:59,582 --> 00:50:01,543
- That's...
- Cruel.
843
00:50:11,678 --> 00:50:17,142
My husband and I called
Chicago Police so often.
844
00:50:17,183 --> 00:50:18,852
Kept telling me to trust them.
845
00:50:21,688 --> 00:50:24,899
They weren't trying
like I was trying.
846
00:50:24,941 --> 00:50:27,485
I spoke to every halfway house,
847
00:50:28,111 --> 00:50:31,197
every group
dealing with runaways,
848
00:50:31,865 --> 00:50:34,993
even hired a private detective
to do their job.
849
00:50:39,873 --> 00:50:42,083
All they could do
was give us
850
00:50:42,125 --> 00:50:44,627
Greg's bones in a bag
851
00:50:47,797 --> 00:50:49,632
and apologize.
852
00:51:31,549 --> 00:51:32,842
I love you.
853
00:51:38,181 --> 00:51:39,641
Billy?
854
00:51:42,018 --> 00:51:44,187
This is fucked.
855
00:51:44,229 --> 00:51:46,731
- What?
- This is just fucked.
856
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,900
- Why?
- Because I'm not a--
857
00:51:48,942 --> 00:51:49,984
I'm not--
858
00:51:51,653 --> 00:51:53,530
I'm not a good person
like you.
859
00:51:53,905 --> 00:51:55,156
Yes, you are.
860
00:51:55,198 --> 00:51:57,867
I've done really
fucked up things in my life.
861
00:51:57,909 --> 00:51:59,244
{\an8}I don't care.
862
00:51:59,285 --> 00:52:01,162
{\an8}I'm trying to tell you
that you should care, okay?
863
00:52:01,204 --> 00:52:02,789
Me and Danny, we,
864
00:52:04,791 --> 00:52:07,627
we, we nearly
killed a guy one time
865
00:52:08,169 --> 00:52:10,130
for his TV. Like...
866
00:52:10,839 --> 00:52:12,007
Billy...
867
00:52:12,048 --> 00:52:13,717
You're not for me, okay?
868
00:52:13,758 --> 00:52:14,884
And, and that's okay.
869
00:52:14,926 --> 00:52:16,094
You know, there's,
there's, there's an--
870
00:52:16,136 --> 00:52:18,179
There's a good guy
out there for you,
871
00:52:18,221 --> 00:52:19,848
a guy with--
You know,
872
00:52:19,889 --> 00:52:21,141
he's got a good job and,
873
00:52:21,182 --> 00:52:22,851
and he's not doing
fucked up shit all the time.
874
00:52:22,892 --> 00:52:24,352
And-- Um, and he's,
875
00:52:24,394 --> 00:52:26,271
he's a guy that
you can be really proud of.
876
00:52:27,981 --> 00:52:30,108
So shut the hell up and be him.
877
00:52:31,901 --> 00:52:33,319
Be that guy.
878
00:52:34,404 --> 00:52:36,322
Get a real job.
879
00:52:36,364 --> 00:52:38,867
Bag groceries, I don't care.
880
00:52:39,409 --> 00:52:42,704
Whatever it is, I'll be
proud of you just for trying.
881
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:49,252
I know who you are.
882
00:52:51,171 --> 00:52:52,881
I'm for you,
883
00:52:54,257 --> 00:52:56,217
so I'm not going anywhere.
884
00:53:15,737 --> 00:53:16,988
Frank [on phone]: Hello?
885
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:21,409
Commander.
Kozenczak, Des Plaines.
886
00:53:21,451 --> 00:53:22,952
It's late.
887
00:53:22,994 --> 00:53:25,080
{\an8}Lt. Kozenczak:
Been doing some digging.
888
00:53:25,121 --> 00:53:26,581
{\an8}A year ago,
889
00:53:26,623 --> 00:53:30,418
{\an8}Robert Donnelly is walking
from college to the bus stop.
890
00:53:30,460 --> 00:53:32,754
{\an8}Gacy pulls over,
pretends to be a cop,
891
00:53:32,796 --> 00:53:35,924
{\an8}cuffs him,
takes him to his house,
892
00:53:35,965 --> 00:53:39,094
{\an8}he sodomizes him,
he pisses on him.
893
00:53:39,135 --> 00:53:41,638
{\an8}He forces him to play
Russian roulette.
894
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,223
{\an8}He takes him into the bathtub
895
00:53:43,264 --> 00:53:47,102
{\an8}and he drowns him over and over
until he loses consciousness.
896
00:53:47,143 --> 00:53:50,105
{\an8}Donnelly begs Gacy to kill him.
Chief...
897
00:53:50,146 --> 00:53:52,941
State's Attorney's office
declines to prosecute.
898
00:53:55,026 --> 00:53:57,320
They called it
homosexual horseplay.
899
00:53:58,905 --> 00:54:00,657
Now three months later,
900
00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:03,785
Gacy attacks Jeffrey Rignall.
901
00:54:04,911 --> 00:54:06,246
Same outcome.
902
00:54:06,788 --> 00:54:10,333
That and the two
missing employees
903
00:54:10,375 --> 00:54:12,210
that you and I talked about,
904
00:54:13,420 --> 00:54:14,963
it's not a fuck up.
905
00:54:15,672 --> 00:54:20,051
It's not a miscommunication,
an oversight.
906
00:54:23,847 --> 00:54:25,181
That's a scandal.
907
00:54:26,349 --> 00:54:28,018
Ten days,
908
00:54:28,893 --> 00:54:33,148
we had Gacy tailed and
in custody in ten fucking days.
909
00:54:33,189 --> 00:54:35,900
Chicago had ten years.
910
00:54:35,942 --> 00:54:37,277
You finished?
911
00:54:37,610 --> 00:54:40,071
Your boy, Rob Piest?
912
00:54:40,113 --> 00:54:41,948
You know why you
launched a thousand ships
913
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:43,408
looking for that boy?
914
00:54:43,450 --> 00:54:44,993
Makes me wonder.
915
00:54:45,035 --> 00:54:46,703
What if he'd been a runaway,
916
00:54:46,745 --> 00:54:49,289
a thug, a queer, an addict?
917
00:54:49,622 --> 00:54:52,208
How many days
would it have taken you then?
918
00:55:07,390 --> 00:55:09,309
Hello?
Billy [on phone]: Don't be mad.
919
00:55:09,517 --> 00:55:11,895
What? Where are you?
920
00:55:11,936 --> 00:55:13,104
I know I'm late. I'm sorry.
921
00:55:13,146 --> 00:55:15,523
But I got the best
reason in the world.
922
00:55:15,565 --> 00:55:19,110
I think I got a job,
a real job.
923
00:55:19,152 --> 00:55:21,029
- Serious?
- Yeah.
924
00:55:21,071 --> 00:55:22,947
Your fiance's got a job.
925
00:55:22,989 --> 00:55:25,992
I'm, I'm so proud of you.
926
00:55:26,034 --> 00:55:27,369
We should celebrate.
927
00:55:27,410 --> 00:55:29,079
I gotta sign some of the stuff
for this guy but,
928
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,790
but I'll be there really soon.
I love you.
929
00:55:36,211 --> 00:55:39,923
singer: * Only, only ♪
930
00:55:42,801 --> 00:55:47,806
♪ Only tonight ♪
931
00:55:50,266 --> 00:55:56,231
♪ All the ladies, stay inside ♪
932
00:55:56,439 --> 00:55:59,776
♪ Time may freeze ♪
933
00:55:59,818 --> 00:56:03,196
♪ A world could cry ♪
934
00:56:03,446 --> 00:56:06,408
♪ All this night ♪
935
00:56:06,449 --> 00:56:09,911
♪ Running loud ♪
936
00:56:09,953 --> 00:56:16,167
♪ I hear the whispers ♪
♪ and I hear the shouts ♪
937
00:56:16,459 --> 00:56:22,799
♪ And though they ♪
♪ never cry for help ♪
938
00:57:40,460 --> 00:57:45,006
You, you just looked so nice.
939
00:57:59,562 --> 00:58:02,023
{\an8}I talked to him.
I called him up to find out
940
00:58:02,065 --> 00:58:05,694
{\an8}if my Gregory called
and he said he did,
941
00:58:05,735 --> 00:58:08,196
{\an8}and that he was
gonna come to work. And...
942
00:58:08,238 --> 00:58:09,531
And I says,
"Well, did he ever come?"
943
00:58:09,572 --> 00:58:11,282
He says, "No."
And I says,
944
00:58:11,324 --> 00:58:12,951
"How do you know
it was Gregory?"
945
00:58:12,992 --> 00:58:15,036
And he says
because he had him on his,
946
00:58:15,078 --> 00:58:17,038
uh, tape, you know.
947
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,456
And I asked him if he...
948
00:58:18,498 --> 00:58:20,375
you know,
if he could play it back.
949
00:58:20,417 --> 00:58:22,419
He said, no. He erased it.
So I wouldn't know.
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