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[music]
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[Gen Eisenhower] Soldiers,
sailors and airmen, the hopes and prayers
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of liberty-loving people
everywhere march with you.
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[archive] We recall the contribution
and sacrifice which so many has made.
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[archive] They have come from the cities and
the farms and every section of our land.
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They have lived in different times and
they have fought in different battles
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on different fields.
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[archive] And they gave up two
lives, the one they were living,
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and the one
they would have lived.
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[archive] I ask every American
to find a way
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to thank the men and women
who are defending our freedom.
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[archive] You who once wore
uniforms of our Army, Navy,
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Air Force, Marines
or Coast Guard.
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[archive] These American heroes risked everything
so that you and I can live in freedom.
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To all of our incredible veterans,
to the people in the Military,
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thank you. God bless you!
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God bless the United States of
America. Thank you very much.
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[crowd cheering]
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[typing]
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[Logan] Every day in Kandahar,
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our job itself when you go outside
the wire is inherently dangerous.
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You're going out where there's people
that their sole job is to kill you.
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[Logan] But what I like about this
deployment is I can be my authentic self.
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Here in Afghanistan, a war
zone, I'm just another guy,
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whereas back home, I'm still seen as
female. I go by female regs and standards.
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Currently in Afghanistan, there's only a handful
of people that know that I'm transgender.
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I stand to lose my career,
my future, my foundation...
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I stand to lose everything.
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[Laila] I joined the Military
when I was 17 years old.
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My job that I was assigned
was an interrogator.
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And I deployed to Iraq soon
after basic training at the AIT.
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We had followed the most wanted list,
whether we captured them dead or alive.
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When the repeal of "don't ask,
don't tell" happened,
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I had no idea that
it did not cover the TMLGBT.
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There was a fear about being discovered
by my unit, and being discharged.
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Transgender individuals in the Military,
it is our time now to step forward and say
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Ok, it's not about what gender I am,
it's about if I can get the job done.
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And we for years have shown that.
And so... Why not acknowledge us?
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[Jenn] I enlisted in the Army,
really to get out of where I was
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and to get my life in track.
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I was homeless and a high school drop...
out. Uhm, I had an abusive stepfather
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and the relationship with my
mother wasn't very strong.
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And I didn't have
anywhere else to go.
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I am now a captain, I am in
the Intelligence Corps.
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I am responsible for all of
the intelligence collection
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and analysis within
the infantry battalion,
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of about 400 soldiers
that I am assigned to.
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[gun shots]
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I loved being in the Military.
They gave me everything, gave me a home
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and the ability
to care for my family.
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Since I've transitioned, all my
performance reviews have been excellent.
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It cleared my head. It's Made me
have more confidence in myself.
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And over all I think it
made me better at what I do.
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All of the challenges
of being transgender
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have come from military policy.
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That's where
it's been the hardest.
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[El] I am a human resources
officer in Strike Brigade
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in the 101st Airborne Division
at Fort Campbell.
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As an officer in the United States Army,
I am not just a soldier, I'm a leader.
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Everything that I do, every single
day, is in service to soldiers.
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The army, you know
Identified me as female.
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The simplest way that I can
explain what being trans is,
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is I'm a male,
just born in a female body.
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And I have taken and am taking,
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right, the steps to make my
biological, physical body
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reflect my gender.
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I am concerned about
the Military discharging me.
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I am concerned every day.
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I'm Sue Fulton, I am one of the
founding members of Sparta,
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army veteran
and West Point graduate.
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We founded Sparta
in the summer of 2013
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with one of our primary goals to
get the transgender ban lifted.
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[Sue] Couple of months ago
we got an agreement
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from Under Secretary of the Army, Brad
Carson that he would meet with our people.
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And a big part of this is, you know by
coming out as transgender service members
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that raises a risk that the folks who
come to this meting might be discharged.
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Everybody is gonna actually rehearse
these a couple of times and time them.
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This is the excruciating part of
this you're gonna have to say this.
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You have to say it to a timer
and then you have to do it again.
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[Sue] It's gonna be
nerve racking for them.
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The thing about being a soldier
is if you say:
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Well, here's the task
and it's a tough task.
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A good soldier would say,
well, then give it to me.
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And those are the folks we have.
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You'll talk briefly about
the deployment in Korea
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and, you know the commander of the CSH
said that you were her best platoon leader.
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[Sue] They need to understand the kind
of people that we might be loosing
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because of this stupid policy.
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We may be talking about our individual life,
but we're not just talking about our life
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You have people that have
pending investigations
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for something that doesn't
really matter.
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Or people who are putting off their
own transition out of shear fear that
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just saying anything is gonna get
them kicked out of their livelihood
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what's putting food on the table
for their family.
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When your country sees you
as being able to serve
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and be an officer, be, you know a Sergeant
Major, be those things, you gain respect.
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And as a group, if you deploy
in some sort of combat
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or fly, you know a jet into to
combat or be on a submarine...
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And then say:
"Oh, but you can't work here."
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We walked out of the meeting today basically
saying, like what the hell just happened?
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We were supposed
to have one meeting
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and then...
We had three meetings.
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Everybody just was like,
did I just really hear what I just heard
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or did I just
completely make that up?
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The Under Secretary of the Army
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saying that he was gonna do
everything he could
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to protect us, and apologize for
how the Army had treated us.
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I was about to
break down and cry.
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These are like the coolest things
you can ever get in the Military.
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- Behind this coin actually.
- What are they?
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- This is...
- So, these are military coins.
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- Are you gonna let me talk?
- Ok, go ahead, talk.
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We receive that one for
Department of the Airforce,
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and Under Secretary
of the Airforce
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this says Department
of the Army, Under Secretary.
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And then at the back, it says Brad
Carson, his name with his signature.
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After we were done talking to
him, he treated us like people.
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He talked to us,
he spent time with us.
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Like he carried our coats
and got our trash,
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he told us where we should go to lunch, I mean,
he was the first person that I've ever talked to
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outside of this group that I felt
like cared about us as people.
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And really had it in his heart that
he wanted to make our lives better.
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[Jenn] It was my first time being
in the Pentagon, and it was amazing
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It was so empowering to be
open with these people.
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And in some form you regained your integrity
because it feels like a lie for so long.
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And now you are telling people
the truth about who you are.
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About two days before I was
supposed to return to work
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I got a message on my phone
from someone I knew.
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Everybody knows. The leadership talked
about it. Everybody in the office knows.
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It's... It's out there.
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Going back to work those first couple
of days afterwards was terrifying.
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I reported to my new job at Division
Headquarters. And I was on a Thursday.
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On Friday I was told that I was gonna
immediately go back to my old regulations.
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Have my hair cut
with the male regulations,
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that I was gonna correct people
with the male pronouns,
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I was gonna use male gender
segregated facilities,
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My command barked that I was making
all this up, that I was lying about it.
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And they were concerned that
this was just for attention.
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They ordered me to go and speak
t the local psychiatrist.
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This provider decided
that I wasn't transgender.
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There was a concern that if they
had diagnosed me as transgender,
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that they would be forced to
discharge me from the Military.
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And everything that I'd been so
positive on over the last few months
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had been taken away.
No one ever talked to me about my work.
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No one ever discussed the products that I
should be doing or the performance that I had.
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I'd sort of been relegated to
a corner where no one wants me.
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So apparently somebody complained
that I was using the female bathrooms.
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And I tried to explain to them that I
didn't feel safe using the male bathrooms.
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If you start looking at sexual
assault rates across the Military
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and how many
happened I'd post
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and then you end up
in a bathroom
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early in the morning before anyone else
gets there or you're working late at night.
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No, I don't feel safe in there,
I don't feel safe in an all-male bathroom.
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And so I was told that I could
either used the male bathrooms
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or there was a porta potty out back
from the construction that was going on.
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And so I could leave the building
and go outside and use that.
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Even on my most difficult
days, I come home
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and I've got a wife and three
kids who need me emotionally.
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And they need me physically to be
here and go do things with them.
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Autumn, I found another present
you haven't opened.
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Autumn.
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So the first thing when we got out here,
we completely separated our family life
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from the military life.
It's really hard to do,
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Because the Military promotes,
you know family involvement so much.
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And they have barbecues and get
togethers and holiday parties,
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I was told that I wasn't allowed
to attend any more unit functions.
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That couldn't come to hail and
farewells and organizational days.
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I've put in 11 years of my life
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I've deployed every combat zone
that my generation have served in.
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I deserve to be there
as much as anyone else.
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This is my army too.
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- Hi, babe. I missed you.
- I missed you.
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- Your hair looks good today.
- Your face looks good today.
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[Logan] Honestly,
if it wasn't for missing you
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and wanting just to be back
in the States in general,
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I would extend out here.
I totally would.
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- Please don't do that.
- But it's been great
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'cause I am seen 100% as male,
and I'm not questioned
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uhm... about anything.
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I can grow my male rags and standards
and grow my horrible mustache.
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Which by the way, babe, I really
don't like your mustache.
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You know when I... when I grew
it out the first time
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when we first got here
you hated it,
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you hated it, you hate, hate it, hate it
and then when I shaved it off you're like,
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"You know what? I...
I actually liked it, I kind of miss it.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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I'm gonna go grow mine now,
so you can see how it feels.
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[laughter]
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But for real, if you do have an extra facial
hair from electrolysis, I will take it.
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[music]
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[laughter]
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[Laila] I grew up in Honolulu,
Hawaii, with, uh, my family.
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I'm the oldest of four children.
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My brother is in the Army and my
younger sister is in the Navy.
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And my dad was in the Army
before as well.
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As far back as I can remember actually,
um, I never identified as being a male.
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Once I realized that I was way
different from the other children
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I was too afraid to explore the
possibility of even being transgender
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because I come from such a...
a religious family that wasn't an option.
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[sea waves lapping]
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During my first deployment, I didn't
really see eye to eye with my family
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based on my life choices.
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When Laila did eventually come out I
was in denial. I was mad at... at Laila.
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The exact phrase I remember telling them
was, I felt like I wanna be a woman.
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I didn't know
what transgender was.
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I didn't know there were other people
out there that were just like me.
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For a long time
I was not accepting it
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because I felt this is my child,
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I brought her into this world
as the opposite gender.
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I threatened Laila, I said, "You're
gonna do that, I'm gonna disown you.
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Don't shame me like that."
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[Laila] I didn't hear from them for
several months into the deployment.
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That probably crushed me
more than having to leave home.
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There was a mission
that we were tossed out to do
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and early in the morning, we got notification
that the mission had been dropped
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and it was given
to our sister unit.
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The mission also called for
an extra vehicle and a driver.
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Because I was not in the area,
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they had pulled my vehicle and one
of the troops that I work with.
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From what we were told,
there was a Pressure-Plate IED
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and it detonated
right underneath his seat.
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[Laila's mom] We got a call from the
Commanding Officer for the families to come
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to the armory up in Wahiawa
because there had been a death.
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My gut, I needed to pick it up off the
floor, a lump in my throat and shaking.
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[Laila] I remember coming
back to my quarters that day
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and there was
a piece of paper on my door
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and they were messages from tons of
people in the unit basically saying,
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"We love you and we miss you."
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Assuming that we were
on that vehicle that day.
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There's not a day that goes by that I
don't think that that could have been me.
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[Laila's mom] The minute Laila called
home, I just balwed my eyes,
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I was like, "Are you okay?"
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[Laila] It took them years to come
around, but they came around nonetheless.
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That's when I said to myself,
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"I've got to love him.
You just have to love him."
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[Debbie] I've been on this journey
with Logan from the beginning
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and I support him every minute.
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At first, I was thinking,
you know, just tomboy.
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- Do you have that on video?
- Yes.
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[indistinct]
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[Debbie] But, you know as he got
older,
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I knew, you know that well,
he's probably gay. Transgender, though?
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It's a term
I was ever exposed to.
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He had to educate me.
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And he thought me a lot,
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he's always taught me a lot
growing up, on what is normal.
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You know,
you create your own normal.
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- Picture How does, blank, blank, blank?
- You're guarding gr...
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[Debbie] You know, I would laugh and
say, "Well, you know my lesbian daughter
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ended up turning out
to be my straight son."
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[laughs]
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[Todd] My closest friends
at work, they don't know.
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They know my daughter is in the
Military and is in a Military MP
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and the police, and I keep
a few people informed on,
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"Hey, he's... she's going to Afghanistan."
You know, It's like I wanted to...
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I wanna be able to talk with some people at
work about... you know, 'cause I'm proud.
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I mean, we're mechanics. You know, We're
men mechanics and always got their opinion,
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but there's usually one opinion
when it comes to this situation.
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Now, if they knew Logan's circumstance,
I think they'd write me off as a friend.
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You know, and I almost second guess myself,
"Do I really need these people as friends?"
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And right now, their opinion of my daughter
being in the Military is one that I liked
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for them to have.
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It's honorable.
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But as soon as I would
possibly mention that,
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I think they're going to do a 180
and I don't want their opinion of me
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or of my son to be that.
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[Debbie] The Military has you
in these compartments,
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and you have to fit in
to a certain group
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and Logan didn't fit in.
I felt to blame.
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I was like, "Gosh, did I do that,
just saying be yourself, be who you are?"
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[Todd] I don't know where the mix up was.
If you want to call it that, you know what?
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Maybe I'm mixed up, maybe that's the
norm, you know, I don't know.
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But I know that God
created these people,
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this person and you need to accept
that person for what that person is.
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Logan is the most caring person and
that's what really matters to me.
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The bottom line is this
is an American going fighting
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for your
liberties that you have here.
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So, basically what happened,
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if I get quiet it's
because somebody's coming by.
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My Homebase Commander
called the commander here
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over my unit as a whole.
Called him and said,
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"Hey. You're going to be getting
an individual coming there.
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She's born female, though
she doesn't look it at all."
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Because of them knowing,
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the leadership here, they told my
Master Sergeant, called him in,
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"Sir, do you understand, uh, the
situation and what's going on?"
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Him being
himself was like, "Yeah.
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We fucking went to Fort Bliss
together, we trained together,
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you know, there's nothing wrong
with him. What's the problem?"
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and they're like, "She needs to
be put in a female barracks.
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She needs to be
addressed as such."
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And he said, "Let me
correct you right there.
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His name is Logan.
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He is gonna to be
living with his brothers.
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You don't need to be worried
about him.
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We have everything
figured out on our end."
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If anybody knew the policy,
they could say, "Oh, hey.
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This Airman shouldn't be here anyway.
This Airman needs to be kicked out."
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The more people who know, puts me in a
really awesome position to get discharged.
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[music]
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[El] With me are like my five
best friends since college.
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We all went to the Military
Academy, went to West Point.
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I think it's been almost three years
since all six of us have been together
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in the same place, at the same
time. I'm headed out again here
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end of April to another deployment
and so we were just like,
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"Hey, before I leave like,
we gotta all get together."
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I love your face, man.
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This is the worst part
of the fucking transition.
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- You don't seem to notice...
- You have nice skin and then that shit goes.
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I saw your shit and I was, "Shit. Should
I start taking some of the stuff too?"
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[laughter]
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I was like, my shit
isn't even, what the fuck?
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I was so mad.
I was mad. I was like damn.
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Your beard be on mother
fucking fleek and I'm over here
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with this spotty patchy shit.
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Speaking of cosmetic changes,
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I took a look at a picture of myself
when I was going to prep school, 19,
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and I look at my hairline.
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[laughter]
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I'm right here with you.
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The side effects of this shit.
You know like,
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I tried to take a little sexy picture
today and my hairline was like,
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"No, the fuck you won't."
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[laughter]
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[music]
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- [El's friend] That's what's going on? I'm sorry.
- [El] Oh yes.
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You know, like you and like Clichy and
even me sometimes would always be like,
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"You know, is El
like a man? Is El gay?
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- Like, what's going on?
- [overlapping talk]
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- Is so and so fucking with so and so?"
- Let's ask the shit
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that you have been curious about
but you just haven't asked about
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and maybe you're not... 'Cause to
me, I hate misrepresenting people.
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I hate it when
people misrepresent me.
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00:28:54,106 --> 00:28:56,973
So, I don't want to misrepresent
somebody to anyone else.
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00:28:56,975 --> 00:29:01,077
You've been saying, "I'm El Cook.
I'm a fucking man," your whole life.
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Yes. As a kid, like yeah, as a
kid, I was like, " I knew this."
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At some point it becomes far easier,
actually, to say that you're a lesbian
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than to say, "No, no, no,
this is what I really am."
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00:29:16,729 --> 00:29:19,229
Because if you're a trans,
you're some kind of fucking mutant head.
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00:29:19,231 --> 00:29:21,097
Right, anytime you talk
about being trans,
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like for most people they
generally have one question.
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Their mind goes
to one place, like...
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Even top brass in the Army, and I
know this because I've talked to them,
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right, it's just like: "what do
your genitals look like?"
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That's really
all they care about.
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Just like black people,
trans people are not anomalies.
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You'll have men who have vaginas
and there are women out there
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who have other...
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I don't ever want people to think that
that somehow invalidates who they are.
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Like, I don't need to see anybody
else's vagina or a penis to know
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that they're a man or
a woman, nor do I care.
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If you tell people, "I've
got something in the bar."
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and they're like, "I'm a
woman." "Cool, you're a woman."
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00:30:00,371 --> 00:30:03,807
So, to do in surgery and all that,
like completing the transition,
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00:30:03,809 --> 00:30:07,711
you are not like worried about negative
like professional repercussions?
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00:30:07,713 --> 00:30:11,314
Yeah, like, I think every day,
every day of my life, right?
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I mean, they can still mess with
you at a lower level, right?
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Like so they're like, "All right. Fine.
We're not gonna try to discharge you
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00:30:17,056 --> 00:30:22,392
and send it up, you know, but maybe,
I will find everything about you to, like,
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00:30:22,394 --> 00:30:27,696
- if you park and your tires are over the line," right?
- Yeah. Yeah.
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Gonna cancel you.
You know what I'm saying?
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If you show up, any less than
15 minutes early, right?
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Like, if you get any less
than a 300 on, right?
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They can like still find ways.
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It kinda just
makes me feel like,
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"Damn." Like, people are out there
being hurt, being, uh, you know.
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There's like
violence against them
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all because we can't
open our minds and accept.
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This isn't what I've
been told I'm supposed to like.
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The killings of three trans-women
were reported over a 24-hour period.
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Another was killed
the following day.
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These women are more than
just a compilation of names,
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and ages, and stories of violence,
and trauma. They were people,
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people living at a vulnerable
intersection of race, gender and class.
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People whose names are only
spoken by the majority of us
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when they can no longer respond.
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[somber music]
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The first time I met Laila
was in the office,
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very bubbly, positive,
the patients love her.
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00:32:08,466 --> 00:32:14,107
We have gotten far more positive comment
cards with Laila working on the front desk.
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00:32:17,341 --> 00:32:21,944
Laila has had some challenges
with her chain of command.
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We thought that she'd
been treated differently.
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This place makes me
like my stomach a little...
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I get knots in my stomach.
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00:32:31,455 --> 00:32:32,622
- [guard] Morning. How are you today?
- Good morning.
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00:32:32,624 --> 00:32:34,391
Good. How are you?
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- [guard] Great. Have a great day.
- Thank you.
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00:32:36,662 --> 00:32:39,828
You know they'll come in. And they'll
say, "You need to wipe off the blush off,"
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00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:41,798
and she's like,
"I have no blush on." You know,
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or "Wipe off the mascara
and so, like wipe it off.
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Just like it's nothing."
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00:32:47,138 --> 00:32:53,210
Coming to campus, like, I don't
know what's gonna happen today.
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00:32:53,212 --> 00:32:56,512
We had unofficial
meetings by [indistinct].
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When the staff
showed up for the meeting,
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00:32:59,350 --> 00:33:02,484
we had to identify our gender.
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00:33:02,486 --> 00:33:06,423
So, I just thought that was really
odd to open the meeting in that way,
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00:33:06,425 --> 00:33:08,991
but it was almost like they all
had something against the gays,
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the lesbians,
you know, and transgender.
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And so, all of them
were always flagged.
401
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,866
What can I possibly
get into trouble for today?
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00:33:17,868 --> 00:33:20,269
If I do the right thing,
I get into trouble.
403
00:33:20,271 --> 00:33:22,538
If I do the wrong thing,
I get into trouble.
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00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:26,375
And if I ask a question or ask
questions about it, I get into trouble.
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00:33:26,377 --> 00:33:27,911
And so my experience with Laila,
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00:33:27,913 --> 00:33:32,481
she's just an asset
to the team, valuable.
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00:33:32,483 --> 00:33:35,551
I'd like to see
everyone be treated fairly.
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[somber music]
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00:34:00,011 --> 00:34:04,381
Me and Logan are both in the Alpha
vehicle at the front of the zoom.
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00:34:04,383 --> 00:34:07,317
I'm the lead gunner
and he's a lead driver.
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[suspenseful music]
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[Daniel] I consider Logan to be
one of my better friends here.
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He's easy to get along with
and a fun person to be around.
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00:34:25,569 --> 00:34:27,472
You know what?
This is as far I'm gonna go.
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00:34:31,542 --> 00:34:36,446
Logan, being transgender,
and us working outside the wire
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does not affect
his ability to do the job.
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00:34:39,818 --> 00:34:41,984
I'd say most days
that we go out our mission,
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there's an element
of danger involved
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And I have full confidence in him
that he can get us through it.
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00:34:54,899 --> 00:34:57,834
I don't feel burdened carrying the
secret that Logan is transgender.
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00:34:57,836 --> 00:35:02,372
It's Logan's personal life
and I think it's his choice
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00:35:02,374 --> 00:35:05,011
if he wants to
let people know that.
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00:35:08,412 --> 00:35:11,781
And I feel like he trusts me as a
friend, him being okay with me knowing
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and talking to me about it.
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00:35:13,952 --> 00:35:16,722
All transgender troops want to do
is serve like every other troop.
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[Jesse] I actually met Logan
when he came because of an injury
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00:35:22,928 --> 00:35:26,562
that he had received as
the course of the deployment.
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A couple deep breaths for me.
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00:35:29,769 --> 00:35:32,634
I was a little surprised to find out
that there was a transgender person
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who was deployed.
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00:35:34,972 --> 00:35:39,077
By all accounts, you know he was just as
qualified as anybody else who was there.
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00:35:43,714 --> 00:35:47,653
It's like technically acquired
this from an old DoD compound.
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00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,654
I just keep all my shots in here
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and put them in a safe
container for afterwards.
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00:35:55,627 --> 00:35:58,060
Very conspicuous and in case
somebody wants to go in there
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00:35:58,062 --> 00:36:02,702
I have my prescription already put in
it, so they can see it is legal.
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00:36:07,906 --> 00:36:11,877
If you're doing it
every week for over three years,
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you just kind of get used to it.
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00:36:15,714 --> 00:36:18,515
[interviewer] Where's the most
awkward place you've done this?
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I had to give myself my shot
one time in a porta potty.
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00:36:22,187 --> 00:36:25,491
This puts my stocks through for my
natural middle range for my age group.
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00:36:33,731 --> 00:36:34,632
And that's it.
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00:36:47,511 --> 00:36:52,615
Oh my goodness. Like once in a
lifetime chance this was seriously...
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So, Jesse messages me.
445
00:36:55,653 --> 00:36:59,157
He's like, "Hey,
a really big 747 just landed."
446
00:37:01,158 --> 00:37:04,961
Perhaps, you know we ought to
see if there's an opportunity
447
00:37:04,963 --> 00:37:06,631
to meet whoever had arrived.
448
00:37:08,033 --> 00:37:10,403
[Eric] Secretary Carter
was sworn in on a Monday
449
00:37:13,171 --> 00:37:18,908
and we left Friday for Afghanistan,
and we're in a hangar with,
450
00:37:18,910 --> 00:37:22,745
I don't know, a hundred troops.
He's doing a question and answer session
451
00:37:22,747 --> 00:37:25,582
talking about priorities,
taking questions.
452
00:37:25,584 --> 00:37:27,683
When I was sitting there listening
to the Secretary of Defense
453
00:37:27,685 --> 00:37:32,689
deliver his update, I couldn't
get away from this idea
454
00:37:32,691 --> 00:37:35,825
in my mind that there
was this perfect opportunity
455
00:37:35,827 --> 00:37:38,528
to ask him a question
about transgender service.
456
00:37:38,530 --> 00:37:42,031
And, You know,
I turned to Logan and said,
457
00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:44,870
"If you could get up and ask
a question what would you ask?"
458
00:37:46,136 --> 00:37:49,906
I'd probably ask him what his
thoughts are on transgender troops
459
00:37:49,908 --> 00:37:52,709
serving in austere environment
such as Afghanistan.
460
00:37:52,711 --> 00:37:55,245
The press were there,
this was a high profile moment
461
00:37:55,247 --> 00:37:58,247
and I knew that there was
no turning back
462
00:37:58,249 --> 00:38:01,618
if I asked this question.
That it would be reported.
463
00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:05,754
It could potentially expose Logan
in a way that would have jeopardized
464
00:38:05,756 --> 00:38:08,493
his deployment
and his service and his career.
465
00:38:09,528 --> 00:38:11,629
[Logan] So, Jesse makes
a beeline for the mic,
466
00:38:12,531 --> 00:38:17,566
introduces themselves and
flawlessly asks that same question.
467
00:38:17,568 --> 00:38:20,837
What's your thoughts on
transgender service members serving
468
00:38:20,839 --> 00:38:22,872
in an austere environment
like this here in Kandahar?
469
00:38:22,874 --> 00:38:26,008
I'm in the back of the room
and I hear, "transgender"
470
00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:31,180
and it sort of focused
my attention very quickly
471
00:38:31,182 --> 00:38:33,982
as I raise my head, look around
who's asking this question.
472
00:38:33,984 --> 00:38:36,752
Everybody in the room
immediately looks over.
473
00:38:36,754 --> 00:38:40,589
Every cam in
the room starts going nuts.
474
00:38:40,591 --> 00:38:44,229
We want to make our conditions
and experience of service,
475
00:38:45,696 --> 00:38:51,935
uh, as attractive as possible to
the best people in our country.
476
00:38:51,937 --> 00:38:57,674
I'm very open-minded
about their personal lives
477
00:38:57,676 --> 00:39:02,581
and proclivities are, provided they
can do what we need them to do.
478
00:39:03,747 --> 00:39:07,683
[Logan] Everybody gets up,
we started heading over to Carter.
479
00:39:07,685 --> 00:39:11,154
Literally, at the last split second
I decided to introduce myself.
480
00:39:11,156 --> 00:39:17,026
"Sir, I'm Senior Airman Logan Ireland.
I am representing one of the 15,000
481
00:39:17,028 --> 00:39:20,796
actively serving transgender
members at the Military."
482
00:39:20,798 --> 00:39:25,267
His eyes bugged out, and he is
the sweetest guy, and he's like,
483
00:39:25,269 --> 00:39:27,636
"Wow, this is...
this is incredible.
484
00:39:27,638 --> 00:39:29,939
Thank you so much. Thank you
so much for your service
485
00:39:29,941 --> 00:39:33,008
and having the integrity to come
up here and tell me that."
486
00:39:33,010 --> 00:39:36,080
And he gave me a coin.
487
00:39:38,216 --> 00:39:43,289
Yes, it says, "Presented by the Secretary
of Defense, United States of America."
488
00:39:45,624 --> 00:39:46,325
That was pretty cool.
489
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,328
[reporter] During a Military Town
Hall event yesterday in Kandahar,
490
00:39:53,330 --> 00:39:57,165
Secretary Carter expressed an openness
to the idea of openly transgender service
491
00:39:57,167 --> 00:40:01,037
saying "only suitability for service
should bar an American from enlistment."
492
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:04,107
Does the President share
Secretary Carter's views on this?
493
00:40:04,109 --> 00:40:07,209
Chris, I've seen the reports
of Secretary Carter's comments.
494
00:40:07,211 --> 00:40:10,345
I can tell you that the President
agrees with the sentiment
495
00:40:10,347 --> 00:40:14,216
that all Americans who are qualified
to serve should be able to serve.
496
00:40:14,218 --> 00:40:18,687
For that reason, we here at the White House welcome
the comments from the Secretary of Defense.
497
00:40:18,689 --> 00:40:22,325
[reporter] Secretary of Defense,
Ash Carter has ordered a six-month study
498
00:40:22,327 --> 00:40:25,895
to review the Military's policies
on transgender service members
499
00:40:25,897 --> 00:40:29,832
and to consider the effect that
changing those policies would have.
500
00:40:29,834 --> 00:40:34,337
[reporter 2] The review includes looking
at a 40-page document of medical conditions
501
00:40:34,339 --> 00:40:40,042
that preclude service including sexual
conditions or disorders like transgender.
502
00:40:40,044 --> 00:40:45,448
But Officials say senior military leaders
are pushing back with serious reservations.
503
00:40:45,450 --> 00:40:48,283
There are questions about
where to house those troops,
504
00:40:48,285 --> 00:40:52,788
where do they go to the bathroom,
what effect will it have on their units.
505
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:55,290
[reporter3] Retired general
John Kelly of the Marine Corps
506
00:40:55,292 --> 00:40:57,727
believes it may not
be that simple.
507
00:40:57,729 --> 00:40:59,361
Right now if you are being
medicated
508
00:40:59,363 --> 00:41:03,399
unless it's fairly temporary,
you will get a discharge.
509
00:41:03,401 --> 00:41:07,970
It is my understanding that some transgenders
need lifelong hormonal treatments,
510
00:41:07,972 --> 00:41:10,772
tend to depression issue
in many cases. It goes back
511
00:41:10,774 --> 00:41:13,042
to this issue where it,
does it make us more lethal?
512
00:41:13,044 --> 00:41:16,946
And I clearly would argue that
it doesn't make us more lethal.
513
00:41:16,948 --> 00:41:20,950
We don't know if we're on
track to get a change in policy
514
00:41:20,952 --> 00:41:24,453
but we've been hearing things from
people we know inside the building,
515
00:41:24,455 --> 00:41:27,156
and some of them are positive
and some of them are concerns.
516
00:41:27,158 --> 00:41:31,359
The deadline really is the election.
There's just the political reality that
517
00:41:31,361 --> 00:41:37,301
a new president in their first term is not
gonna necessarily wanna take on this issue.
518
00:41:43,341 --> 00:41:46,008
[Sue] I've gotten to know
General Milley, and I asked him,
519
00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:50,747
"Can I come in and talk to you about
it just to understand your issues,
520
00:41:50,749 --> 00:41:52,482
maybe provide some
additional information?"
521
00:41:52,484 --> 00:41:56,388
He agreed to me, and that's
what we're planning to do.
522
00:41:57,321 --> 00:42:00,758
[somber music]
523
00:42:05,330 --> 00:42:08,263
[Sue] The only thing I want to
hear is I want to hear your intro.
524
00:42:08,265 --> 00:42:10,066
- My intro?
- Yup.
525
00:42:10,068 --> 00:42:11,933
Good morning, sir.
My name is Jennifer Peace.
526
00:42:11,935 --> 00:42:14,136
I'm a captain in the United
States Army, currently stationed
527
00:42:14,138 --> 00:42:16,471
with the 7th Infantry Division
at Fort Lewis, Washington.
528
00:42:16,473 --> 00:42:19,308
We're here for our
soldiers and ourselves.
529
00:42:19,310 --> 00:42:22,845
Our concern is that we're being offended,
but we are being able to provide you
530
00:42:22,847 --> 00:42:25,214
any answers to
questions that you may have.
531
00:42:25,216 --> 00:42:28,517
I don't intend to have your
job before you're done with it
532
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,220
but if you could keep this
seat warm and perhaps go ahead
533
00:42:31,222 --> 00:42:32,921
and settle their
nameplates for the door.
534
00:42:32,923 --> 00:42:34,826
I think it would be
beneficial to everyone.
535
00:42:36,426 --> 00:42:39,529
You're killing me. [laughter]
536
00:42:39,531 --> 00:42:41,229
[Sue]
Gonna give her a heart attack.
537
00:42:41,231 --> 00:42:43,165
Seriously. Seriously.
538
00:42:43,167 --> 00:42:46,468
Really, General Milley
may never have another chance
539
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:50,906
to talk to a transgender service
member before he makes a decision.
540
00:42:50,908 --> 00:42:56,546
And right now, I think
the solution is looking for him
541
00:42:56,548 --> 00:43:02,118
to know where he really stands.
This is gonna be a pivot point.
542
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,020
It's gonna be a huge pivot point
because if he comes out of here,
543
00:43:05,022 --> 00:43:10,392
even neutral,
even neutral, we've won.
544
00:43:10,394 --> 00:43:12,328
We've won.
545
00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:14,533
[somber music]
546
00:44:58,169 --> 00:45:03,238
[Sue] Didn't start out bad. He basically
said: "I'm opposed while I'm in here,
547
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:05,073
you know, don't know what
I don't know."
548
00:45:05,075 --> 00:45:07,142
He said look my job is
readiness,
549
00:45:07,144 --> 00:45:10,712
it's not about equal opportunity
or equality. My job is readiness.
550
00:45:10,714 --> 00:45:13,049
More like that's what we're
all about. That's all yours.
551
00:45:13,051 --> 00:45:16,051
And Jenn said, "Sir, they
treat me like a male soldier."
552
00:45:16,053 --> 00:45:18,187
He says, "Well, I don't
actually want them to do that.
553
00:45:18,189 --> 00:45:20,323
They should treat you as a female
soldier." Right, Is that what he said?
554
00:45:20,325 --> 00:45:22,591
It's like they're making you use
male pronouns and I'm like, "Yeah."
555
00:45:22,593 --> 00:45:24,961
He's like, "And you going to...
which bathroom are you using?
556
00:45:24,963 --> 00:45:26,529
I said, they want me
using the male bathroom.
557
00:45:26,531 --> 00:45:29,098
And then he said like,
"Like have you had surgery?"
558
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:31,100
She said, "I've had three
surgeries." And then he said,
559
00:45:31,102 --> 00:45:33,636
"What's up with your hair?
I need to hear this story."
560
00:45:33,638 --> 00:45:37,105
I was just like, "Well,
I keep it because I hope
561
00:45:37,107 --> 00:45:42,611
that it will convince people that I am a female
soldier that I have to pass as one of them."
562
00:45:42,613 --> 00:45:44,245
[woman] And here is
the other thing, he said,
563
00:45:44,247 --> 00:45:46,147
[Sue] "I just want you
to know I had never met,
564
00:45:46,149 --> 00:45:49,151
to my knowledge, I have
never met a transgender person."
565
00:45:49,153 --> 00:45:53,254
That means he's never knowingly spoken
with a transgender soldier before.
566
00:45:53,256 --> 00:45:56,158
- And now it started [crosstalk]
- Yeah, he needed to know, the applicants will tell you
567
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,694
anything and you go, "Sir,
I am not an advocate, I'm just a soldier."
568
00:45:58,696 --> 00:46:02,098
The questions he had, we had
answers for all of them.
569
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:06,569
He's like, "Transgender people commit suicide
at four times the rate of everyone else,
570
00:46:06,571 --> 00:46:08,770
- Is that correct?"
- And here's the thing,
571
00:46:08,772 --> 00:46:11,439
if you don't have access to
healthcare and you don't have a job
572
00:46:11,441 --> 00:46:14,442
and you don't have social support,
you are at risk for suicide.
573
00:46:14,444 --> 00:46:19,651
What do people in the army have? Access
to healthcare, a job, social support.
574
00:46:21,486 --> 00:46:28,156
I have a tremendous experience
and this very kind of real to me
575
00:46:28,158 --> 00:46:30,292
and maybe a little sobering.
576
00:46:30,294 --> 00:46:32,261
If I thought that
the same thing that,
577
00:46:32,263 --> 00:46:36,468
you know, this four-star general
Princeton Grad
578
00:46:37,401 --> 00:46:42,370
was struggling with in his mind is
gonna be the same for the rest of,
579
00:46:42,372 --> 00:46:45,640
you know, for so many more
Americans, specifically soldiers.
580
00:46:45,642 --> 00:46:48,713
[music]
581
00:47:00,258 --> 00:47:04,593
We turn now to North Carolina
where a new measure restricting
582
00:47:04,595 --> 00:47:09,198
protections for gay, lesbian,
bisexual and transgender people
583
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,401
is being called the toughest
law of its kind in the nation.
584
00:47:12,403 --> 00:47:16,305
Well, here's the bottom line,
the reason that the bathroom bill
585
00:47:16,307 --> 00:47:20,241
is center stage in the presidential
campaign is because it represents
586
00:47:20,243 --> 00:47:26,415
more than bathrooms. Some would argue,
I'm might, of an unraveling of our culture
587
00:47:26,417 --> 00:47:30,819
and perhaps our ability to plan
for the future as a species.
588
00:47:30,821 --> 00:47:35,191
I'm Jessica Taylor, I'm an
airline pilot, I am transgender.
589
00:47:35,193 --> 00:47:39,595
I wanna know, if you can see me, first
of all, what would make you uncomfortable
590
00:47:39,597 --> 00:47:42,100
with me using
the women's restroom?
591
00:47:43,434 --> 00:47:45,771
- [Anchor 1] She's a very attractive woman.
- Well,
592
00:47:47,171 --> 00:47:50,171
- [laughs]
- [anchor] Very.
593
00:47:50,173 --> 00:47:56,412
A lot of transgender people are not...
a lot of people... a lot are not convincing
594
00:47:56,414 --> 00:47:59,781
in their presentation as the
opposite of their biological sex.
595
00:47:59,783 --> 00:48:04,185
And so, it's obvious to the people who see
them that this is actually a man in a dress
596
00:48:04,187 --> 00:48:06,287
and not a biological woman.
597
00:48:06,289 --> 00:48:10,191
OK, so who's gonna set the standard
as to appearance of female?
598
00:48:10,193 --> 00:48:13,229
Is there gonna be a TSA watching
the door of the bathroom
599
00:48:13,231 --> 00:48:15,730
and you're gonna say,
"Oh, you're not womanly enough."
600
00:48:15,732 --> 00:48:20,602
I know a lot of women and that are
very, you know, neutral in their gender
601
00:48:20,604 --> 00:48:23,171
and you're gonna tell them they can't...
they got to go use the men's restroom
602
00:48:23,173 --> 00:48:26,408
now in North Carolina?
Well, that makes sense.
603
00:48:26,410 --> 00:48:30,745
The point is... This is an issue
that you and other transgender people
604
00:48:30,747 --> 00:48:34,316
- have brought on yourself by choosing to present yourselves...
- Oh, wow.
605
00:48:34,318 --> 00:48:36,886
- as the opposite
of your biological sex.
606
00:48:36,888 --> 00:48:40,325
[somber music]
607
00:48:52,569 --> 00:48:56,738
So, today is Friday the 24th,
608
00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:59,176
we'll be leaving
out here on Monday.
609
00:49:03,347 --> 00:49:08,252
[Logan] I don't want to leave. I much
rather stay here and extend if I could.
610
00:49:09,620 --> 00:49:16,292
I spent the last nine months being
seen as myself, being seen as male.
611
00:49:16,294 --> 00:49:22,698
I've gone by male reg and standards,
have lived with males without fault.
612
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,200
I really don't
wanna go back home
613
00:49:25,202 --> 00:49:27,771
and have to go by
female reg, female standards.
614
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,941
It sucks, 'cause out here people
think of it as real shitty conditions.
615
00:49:32,943 --> 00:49:37,513
You're in Kandahar, Afghanistan
going outside the wire
616
00:49:37,515 --> 00:49:39,618
and doing a dangerous mission.
617
00:49:40,551 --> 00:49:44,256
But I would much rather
be here than home.
618
00:49:45,756 --> 00:49:48,827
[background talking]
619
00:49:53,664 --> 00:49:56,899
I'm really hoping that everything goes
well, that with my home based commander
620
00:49:56,901 --> 00:50:02,807
when I tell him about myself
and "Hey, I'm a trans-troop.
621
00:50:04,408 --> 00:50:08,977
I don't really want you to see me as
that, but I need to tell you that."
622
00:50:08,979 --> 00:50:14,750
Maybe see if they can give me some
leniency on dressing appearance,
623
00:50:14,752 --> 00:50:18,223
so I don't have to wear female
dress blues. I really don't...
624
00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:27,198
I just can't fathom that... I can't fathom
having to do that after being out here.
625
00:50:35,272 --> 00:50:36,841
[phone rings]
626
00:50:37,908 --> 00:50:40,676
- Hey.
- Hey, my love.
627
00:50:40,678 --> 00:50:44,816
- We start boarding in an hour.
- I miss you.
628
00:50:46,017 --> 00:50:51,919
- I miss you. Are you going to be able to sleep [chuckles]?
- No, I'm not [chuckles].
629
00:50:51,921 --> 00:50:52,923
[laughs]
630
00:50:57,495 --> 00:51:01,897
My transition experience
is very different from Logan's.
631
00:51:01,899 --> 00:51:07,303
I've had a sit down with
my, uh, my second supervisor.
632
00:51:07,305 --> 00:51:11,339
And my question to her was,
do you think it will be best that I,
633
00:51:11,341 --> 00:51:15,410
you know, volunteer this
information to our main supervisor?
634
00:51:15,412 --> 00:51:18,080
And she said, "You know what?
Keep it to yourself.
635
00:51:18,082 --> 00:51:23,488
Don't say nothing because she's not for
anyone that falls under the LGBT Umbrella."
636
00:51:25,555 --> 00:51:29,325
I've seen other people by the
command, in general, in Hawaii,
637
00:51:29,327 --> 00:51:32,761
they have discharged, uh,
service members for being transgender.
638
00:51:32,763 --> 00:51:39,401
I have to pretend
that I am a male soldier.
639
00:51:39,403 --> 00:51:45,441
Every morning before I head to work, I spend
at least 20 to 25 minutes fixing my hair.
640
00:51:45,443 --> 00:51:52,484
I carry around a printout of the AR 670-1
regarding the hair regulations for males,
641
00:51:53,450 --> 00:51:56,819
because I know that someone
is going to say something to me.
642
00:51:56,821 --> 00:52:03,825
I slick it back and I part it,
make it look convincing that I'm a male.
643
00:52:03,827 --> 00:52:06,361
This face doesn't even say male.
644
00:52:06,363 --> 00:52:07,464
It's crazy.
645
00:52:10,501 --> 00:52:15,104
Society has painted
this picture that transwomen
646
00:52:15,106 --> 00:52:18,406
look like men in dresses where
they wear makeup and glitter
647
00:52:18,408 --> 00:52:21,910
and they prance around and they're
loud and that's all they do,
648
00:52:21,912 --> 00:52:24,649
but truth of
the matter is they don't.
649
00:52:26,450 --> 00:52:30,355
[phone rings]
Incoming call from husband.
650
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:32,657
Hello?
651
00:52:34,658 --> 00:52:35,527
Babe?
652
00:52:36,493 --> 00:52:38,062
- [Logan] Where are you?
- I'm driving.
653
00:52:39,597 --> 00:52:45,602
- Just FYI, I smell like shit.
- I love you either ways, stinky or not.
654
00:52:46,970 --> 00:52:49,805
- How far away are you out of...
- I don't know.
655
00:52:49,807 --> 00:52:54,042
- I'm just driving 60 miles.
- 60 miles?
656
00:52:54,044 --> 00:52:57,479
- Yes.
- Well, I'll message you whenever we leave here, okay?
657
00:52:57,481 --> 00:52:59,917
- Okay, I love you.
- I love you. Bye.
658
00:53:07,457 --> 00:53:11,426
If you've met me in 2011 and told me
that I was going to be marrying a man
659
00:53:11,428 --> 00:53:14,062
who also happens
to be transgender,
660
00:53:14,064 --> 00:53:15,867
I would've told
you to get out of here.
661
00:53:17,602 --> 00:53:20,836
That in itself would have been just like,
"Who are you and why are you lying to me?"
662
00:53:20,838 --> 00:53:24,075
Like I know that...
that no way, but here I am
663
00:53:25,843 --> 00:53:30,515
engaged to a transman
664
00:53:31,515 --> 00:53:34,819
from Texas
who's in the Air Force.
665
00:53:35,718 --> 00:53:39,390
[music]
666
00:54:54,698 --> 00:54:57,001
[laughter]
667
00:55:05,042 --> 00:55:07,545
[music]
668
00:55:13,117 --> 00:55:15,082
How are you going to do
this? How are you to do this?
669
00:55:15,084 --> 00:55:17,688
- Go into the road.
- [laughter]
670
00:55:37,073 --> 00:55:41,546
[Debbie] We've been married for
11 years but together for 13.
671
00:55:44,814 --> 00:55:50,651
She decided to join the Military
and so we married on a Saturday
672
00:55:50,653 --> 00:55:54,124
and she left for basic
training that Wednesday.
673
00:55:58,095 --> 00:56:00,798
- Hold up.
- [Debbie] Alright children, come here.
674
00:56:02,765 --> 00:56:04,635
[children laughing]
675
00:56:07,638 --> 00:56:10,104
- [Debbie] Love you.
- Where's momma?
676
00:56:10,106 --> 00:56:12,776
- Oh, right here.
- [Jenn] Where's mommy?
677
00:56:14,077 --> 00:56:16,011
Right here.
678
00:56:16,013 --> 00:56:19,247
[Debbie] I was about six months
pregnant with Emilia
679
00:56:19,249 --> 00:56:23,855
when she told me she
thought she was a transwoman.
680
00:56:25,756 --> 00:56:30,758
I absolutely thought at
the time that it would go away.
681
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,696
I ignored it for months
682
00:56:33,696 --> 00:56:38,236
and I would just become very angry
every time she wanted to talk about it.
683
00:56:44,173 --> 00:56:46,408
[Debbie] I was scared
she would get kicked out
684
00:56:46,410 --> 00:56:49,747
and she was
the breadwinner of the family.
685
00:56:52,015 --> 00:56:55,651
I didn't know how we would
move on with our lives
686
00:56:55,653 --> 00:56:56,854
if something happened.
687
00:57:04,662 --> 00:57:07,796
Um, I went through
a grieving process.
688
00:57:07,798 --> 00:57:12,000
The very last stage, I finally
grieved the person I thought she was.
689
00:57:12,002 --> 00:57:17,675
I had to say goodbye to this
person that I thought she was.
690
00:57:25,281 --> 00:57:28,082
And all of a sudden,
it was just different.
691
00:57:28,084 --> 00:57:32,821
It didn't matter, I didn't
care, um, I just loved her.
692
00:57:32,823 --> 00:57:35,957
Being scared about
the Military kicking her out,
693
00:57:35,959 --> 00:57:38,396
I just told myself we'll figure
it out if something happens.
694
00:57:42,732 --> 00:57:45,970
But I need you to do this
because I don't want to lose you.
695
00:57:57,414 --> 00:58:00,917
[Logan] So today, I'm being
pulled into my commander's office,
696
00:58:02,419 --> 00:58:04,656
I don't know what he
wants to talk to me about.
697
00:58:09,827 --> 00:58:14,261
We go in, he's like, "Hey man, just want to
thank you for everything you did at Kandahar.
698
00:58:14,263 --> 00:58:16,865
Um, we heard really
great things about you."
699
00:58:16,867 --> 00:58:21,269
And he said, "We have your back 150%.
Whatever you need to do, do it."
700
00:58:21,271 --> 00:58:24,238
He's like,
"Okay, um, you're blues.
701
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,509
They... You're not wearing
them, are you or are you not?
702
00:58:28,511 --> 00:58:31,879
Because you have female blues and
those are way out of standard for you,
703
00:58:31,881 --> 00:58:35,984
you need to get rid of those."
I'm like, "No shit?" [laughs]
704
00:58:35,986 --> 00:58:39,421
- So that means?
- That means I got to go buy male blues.
705
00:58:39,423 --> 00:58:41,089
[laughter]
706
00:58:41,091 --> 00:58:44,191
I got so excited
because that's huge.
707
00:58:44,193 --> 00:58:47,928
- This is the first to my knowledge.
- Yeah.
708
00:58:47,930 --> 00:58:51,767
Yes, you're telling me to screw dressing
and now I'm going by male dressing
709
00:58:51,769 --> 00:58:53,834
appearance standards too.
710
00:58:53,836 --> 00:58:57,074
So, I don't have to
grow my hair out [laughs],
711
00:58:58,075 --> 00:58:59,843
and I can have
a shitty mustache.
712
00:59:01,278 --> 00:59:04,048
[music]
713
00:59:45,022 --> 00:59:49,156
So this is where, like
it becomes really irritating
714
00:59:49,158 --> 00:59:54,162
because... he has a situation
715
00:59:54,164 --> 00:59:56,868
where he has to wear
a male uniform.
716
00:59:58,568 --> 01:00:00,203
And I have to go today...
717
01:00:01,305 --> 01:00:03,904
I have to go today
and get my hair cut,
718
01:00:03,906 --> 01:00:06,843
because it's not
within male standards.
719
01:00:08,312 --> 01:00:09,480
It's quite unfortunate.
720
01:00:11,615 --> 01:00:14,281
[background conversation]
721
01:00:14,283 --> 01:00:15,185
Whatever.
722
01:00:16,285 --> 01:00:18,421
They need a change
of policy ASAP.
723
01:00:24,026 --> 01:00:27,497
- What?
- [woman] Then in 15 minutes I can come and help.
724
01:00:28,464 --> 01:00:29,533
15, huh.
725
01:00:32,169 --> 01:00:34,038
I cannot tell
if these are clean.
726
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,876
They smell clean.
727
01:00:40,276 --> 01:00:44,014
[music]
728
01:00:45,381 --> 01:00:47,350
I've been
deployed before, twice.
729
01:00:48,584 --> 01:00:52,419
For a total of 24...
25 and a half months.
730
01:00:52,421 --> 01:00:55,158
This is going to be
my second deployment to Iraq.
731
01:00:59,328 --> 01:01:02,232
I'm not out
to anyone in this unit.
732
01:01:04,267 --> 01:01:09,339
I'm just gonna make sure everything
that needs to get in here, gets in here.
733
01:01:10,473 --> 01:01:14,845
So, the coming out thing,
I don't think it's simple.
734
01:01:16,914 --> 01:01:21,950
Imagine if you're my soldier or you're my
battle buddy and I'm deploying with you
735
01:01:21,952 --> 01:01:25,086
and I tell you this thing. Now
we're scheduled to be roommates,
736
01:01:25,088 --> 01:01:27,254
you have to sleep
in the bed next to me.
737
01:01:27,256 --> 01:01:29,524
You share a room with me, right?
738
01:01:29,526 --> 01:01:32,359
So I've been the same person
with the same deep voice,
739
01:01:32,361 --> 01:01:37,367
with the same five o'clock
shadow, come 1:30 in the day.
740
01:01:39,035 --> 01:01:41,269
But now you're uncomfortable
and you have a name for it.
741
01:01:41,271 --> 01:01:45,073
Then it becomes very much not
about my comfort or my safety,
742
01:01:45,075 --> 01:01:47,274
it becomes about your
comfort and your safety
743
01:01:47,276 --> 01:01:51,412
because you feel threatened that
I'm the same person I was yesterday
744
01:01:51,414 --> 01:01:53,950
or an hour ago before I
told you anything about me.
745
01:01:59,323 --> 01:02:01,455
[knocking]
746
01:02:01,457 --> 01:02:03,660
[Jean] I had to get ready he'll
come in a minute. There's my son.
747
01:02:07,731 --> 01:02:09,066
Hey, my darling.
748
01:02:10,066 --> 01:02:12,469
No key. Oh.
749
01:02:13,636 --> 01:02:16,971
Oh, mama.
750
01:02:16,973 --> 01:02:19,674
- Alright.
- I really have to get you a ride, for real.
751
01:02:19,676 --> 01:02:23,745
- No, no, no.
- So, tell me about your leaving.
752
01:02:23,747 --> 01:02:25,513
- Leaving me.
- My leaving.
753
01:02:25,515 --> 01:02:28,716
How many is going to deploy
with you tonight?
754
01:02:28,718 --> 01:02:36,024
Total is like 1300 of us. It's like 10 flights
over, you know, throughout the month.
755
01:02:36,026 --> 01:02:38,692
[father] If I told you what this
day, kind of, has been like...
756
01:02:38,694 --> 01:02:41,729
That's why I try not
to call you 50 times a day,
757
01:02:41,731 --> 01:02:45,435
- I only called you three.
- Okay, that works.
758
01:02:46,769 --> 01:02:49,539
- And then I didn't talk long.
- I appreciate it.
759
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:56,444
El always identified with
the boys and I just thought,
760
01:02:56,446 --> 01:03:00,718
"Oh, he's just going to be
a tomboy like I was growing up."
761
01:03:03,653 --> 01:03:09,457
El came out transgender, it was like
something had hit me in my chest.
762
01:03:09,459 --> 01:03:13,328
At the time
he was away at West Point.
763
01:03:13,330 --> 01:03:18,332
And so he came home
and he was saying things like,
764
01:03:18,334 --> 01:03:22,437
"Mom, you know you going to
have to change those pronouns."
765
01:03:22,439 --> 01:03:27,078
And so, I would walk away not
knowing what the heck he meant.
766
01:03:28,644 --> 01:03:32,182
Until one day I said,
"What does that mean?."
767
01:03:33,350 --> 01:03:37,151
He said, "I'm transgender now."
768
01:03:37,153 --> 01:03:39,319
And I said, "Well,
what does that mean?"
769
01:03:39,321 --> 01:03:44,691
She goes, "Okay. I mean, can't you
just be a really masculine lesbian?"
770
01:03:44,693 --> 01:03:48,529
I had to go on the computer,
I had to do a little research.
771
01:03:48,531 --> 01:03:54,201
I went to a pastor because
I was so torn, I was so broken,
772
01:03:54,203 --> 01:03:58,609
I was looking for answers and he
didn't seem at all surprised.
773
01:03:59,508 --> 01:04:02,709
And he said, "well,
Jean, just simmer down,
774
01:04:02,711 --> 01:04:06,513
he said you know he'll be all
right and you'll be all right."
775
01:04:06,515 --> 01:04:10,417
And so he took me to,
I think it was the 3rd chapter,
776
01:04:10,419 --> 01:04:17,392
I think of John the 35th verse where
Jesus was speaking to his disciples.
777
01:04:17,394 --> 01:04:20,595
And he left
his last commandment,
778
01:04:20,597 --> 01:04:24,466
"As to love everyone
as I have loved you.
779
01:04:24,468 --> 01:04:28,569
And people will know that you
are my disciples by your love."
780
01:04:28,571 --> 01:04:32,740
He said,"put a period
there and keep on living
781
01:04:32,742 --> 01:04:35,576
and let El keep on
living his life."
782
01:04:35,578 --> 01:04:38,345
- Oh...
- Sure.
783
01:04:38,347 --> 01:04:40,814
You got big muscles.
784
01:04:40,816 --> 01:04:45,653
[El] She went from being "I don't understand
this" to "I'm your biggest cheerleader."
785
01:04:45,655 --> 01:04:49,591
Any slight talk of discriminating
against a trans-person and she's like,
786
01:04:49,593 --> 01:04:52,593
"Do we need to go to Capitol
Hills? Should I write Obama."
787
01:04:52,595 --> 01:04:55,265
Yes, but I have
had a long day too.
788
01:04:56,533 --> 01:04:58,832
Tell me about it,
what did you do?
789
01:04:58,834 --> 01:05:01,903
- Prayed and cried.
- Cried and prayed.
790
01:05:01,905 --> 01:05:06,343
Prayed to God. Shift me.
Shift me back and forth.
791
01:05:07,843 --> 01:05:10,611
- Love me.
- Love. Let me ask you this.
792
01:05:10,613 --> 01:05:17,484
Would you please stay in touch?
Keep your... keep your phone charged up.
793
01:05:17,486 --> 01:05:19,856
[somber music]
794
01:05:22,792 --> 01:05:26,163
- Send me on my way.
- Straighten up. Up and up and out.
795
01:05:27,497 --> 01:05:29,930
- [father] Christ.
- [Jean] Our Father and our God,
796
01:05:29,932 --> 01:05:34,170
hear us as we pray. Protect
him every step of the way.
797
01:05:36,906 --> 01:05:40,644
- [Joan] You're going to leave me?
- [El] I'm going. I'll be back.
798
01:05:41,544 --> 01:05:47,881
[Jean] I guess, like every parent, they
have that fear and they have that anxiety
799
01:05:47,883 --> 01:05:52,486
about their child
going off to war.
800
01:05:52,488 --> 01:05:55,559
[music]
801
01:06:33,530 --> 01:06:34,995
[Jenn] When I first
started working here.
802
01:06:34,997 --> 01:06:38,700
I didn't know who knew
that I was trans.
803
01:06:38,702 --> 01:06:41,569
It's been a big deal the last
couple of units that I've been in.
804
01:06:41,571 --> 01:06:47,609
I was here in two or three months before
I even knew that the Command was aware.
805
01:06:47,611 --> 01:06:49,379
The leadership here is amazing.
806
01:06:55,651 --> 01:07:01,492
[Jenn] Going to Mississippi for a
week and then I go to the desert.
807
01:07:02,658 --> 01:07:06,593
So when you go out like, you're driving
your truck and just sleep in the truck
808
01:07:06,595 --> 01:07:10,564
or whatever that you're in
or on a rock somewhere.
809
01:07:10,566 --> 01:07:16,904
And then in the garrison it's like a big,
long, open tent with like 12 bunk beds.
810
01:07:16,906 --> 01:07:19,874
They'll have so many female
tents, then so many male tents.
811
01:07:19,876 --> 01:07:23,546
I'm hoping it goes smooth,
but kind of worried about that.
812
01:07:29,019 --> 01:07:32,953
[Jenn] I am here at Fort
Hunter Liggett for an exercise
813
01:07:32,955 --> 01:07:35,890
and I am sleeping
in the female barracks.
814
01:07:35,892 --> 01:07:39,797
I took a shower in the female
shower, use the female bathroom
815
01:07:40,830 --> 01:07:46,033
and now I'm relaxing in bed,
getting ready for work tomorrow.
816
01:07:46,035 --> 01:07:49,803
There hasn't been an issue. I don't
expect there's going to be an issue.
817
01:07:49,805 --> 01:07:54,375
I may be the first transwoman sleeping
in female barracks in the Army.
818
01:07:54,377 --> 01:07:56,614
It shouldn't be any
more complicated than that.
819
01:07:59,448 --> 01:08:00,350
Good night.
820
01:08:01,051 --> 01:08:04,488
[phone ringing]
821
01:08:05,854 --> 01:08:07,925
- Hey.
- Hey.
822
01:08:08,825 --> 01:08:09,827
How are you?
823
01:08:12,394 --> 01:08:13,763
A little stressed out, babe.
824
01:08:16,432 --> 01:08:17,831
A little bit.
825
01:08:17,833 --> 01:08:19,302
You want to talk about it or...
826
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:26,674
No, I just have stuff on my uniform and
it's like I'm on crunch time right now,
827
01:08:26,676 --> 01:08:28,345
but whatever. What's going on?
828
01:08:29,346 --> 01:08:33,980
Well, you look good in it.
If that, that means anything.
829
01:08:33,982 --> 01:08:34,885
Crazy.
830
01:08:37,553 --> 01:08:40,721
[Logan] So, I have an exception to policy
letter, which means I can go by male regs
831
01:08:40,723 --> 01:08:42,423
and standards
and be seen as male.
832
01:08:42,425 --> 01:08:46,893
Laila, my fiancé,
my rock, my everything,
833
01:08:46,895 --> 01:08:48,298
she's got nothing.
834
01:08:52,936 --> 01:08:57,738
And I almost hate when I have something
positive to tell her about my day
835
01:08:57,740 --> 01:08:59,540
like, "Well, I got to do this."
836
01:08:59,542 --> 01:09:03,077
When hers is, it's
almost never in a positive note.
837
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:05,349
So, how's your
out processing going?
838
01:09:11,754 --> 01:09:18,960
Uhm, out-processing is out-
processing, and it's become
839
01:09:18,962 --> 01:09:21,062
a hassle running back and forth
840
01:09:21,064 --> 01:09:23,965
because I don't
have certain things
841
01:09:23,967 --> 01:09:30,107
and my gender marker
isn't right in the system.
842
01:09:32,441 --> 01:09:34,841
You know how that goes, so...
843
01:09:34,843 --> 01:09:36,879
Trust me, I definitely know.
844
01:09:39,415 --> 01:09:44,551
I would say that I'm excited about the
fact that when this policy changes,
845
01:09:44,553 --> 01:09:49,890
I'm not going to have to slick back
my hair anymore, but unfortunately
846
01:09:49,892 --> 01:09:54,862
I won't be in to see that change,
but I'll be alive to see that change, so...
847
01:09:54,864 --> 01:09:56,400
- Yes.
- That's a good thing.
848
01:10:02,070 --> 01:10:06,907
[Laila] So I felt that my leadership was
basically building a case against me.
849
01:10:06,909 --> 01:10:10,545
Anyone who has served knows
that a dishonorable discharge
850
01:10:10,547 --> 01:10:13,480
means you don't
retain any benefits at all.
851
01:10:13,482 --> 01:10:15,916
I wouldn't be able to
get a job on the outside.
852
01:10:15,918 --> 01:10:19,152
And so I chose to stick
with the honorable discharge
853
01:10:19,154 --> 01:10:22,689
and the medical separation because
I wanted to retain my benefits.
854
01:10:22,691 --> 01:10:24,560
Everything that I
worked for in 12 years.
855
01:10:32,034 --> 01:10:34,100
- [man] Does it snow in Oklahoma?
- [Laila] I don't know.
856
01:10:34,102 --> 01:10:37,804
Well, it did when I
went for basic training.
857
01:10:37,806 --> 01:10:39,573
That was at Fort, so,
that's about an hour away.
858
01:10:39,575 --> 01:10:42,042
What is it there to do in
Oklahoma? I've never been.
859
01:10:42,044 --> 01:10:44,511
Depends on what part
of Oklahoma you're in.
860
01:10:44,513 --> 01:10:47,113
Like, where I'm going
to be at, there's nothing.
861
01:10:47,115 --> 01:10:49,750
Where's Oklahoma? Is that
the south? Is that the north?
862
01:10:49,752 --> 01:10:52,489
- West. Midwest.
- West? Midwest?
863
01:10:53,522 --> 01:10:56,057
- Central.
- Central.
864
01:10:56,059 --> 01:10:59,096
Yeah, Central. West Central.
865
01:11:00,896 --> 01:11:03,499
- Is that it?
- I'm just trying over here.
866
01:11:04,700 --> 01:11:05,968
There's so much there.
867
01:11:07,403 --> 01:11:11,475
Okay. So like, places like that,
that's what get you like, scared.
868
01:11:13,976 --> 01:11:16,743
I think it's just like that
with anywhere, though.
869
01:11:16,745 --> 01:11:19,679
I'd be scared, except here.
870
01:11:19,681 --> 01:11:22,582
It says, "Oklahoma law
does not address discrimination
871
01:11:22,584 --> 01:11:25,087
based on gender identity
or sexual orientation."
872
01:11:26,021 --> 01:11:29,090
Oh, I don't know if
it's joking. [laughs]
873
01:11:29,092 --> 01:11:30,925
What is... What does it say?
874
01:11:30,927 --> 01:11:33,928
State law does not address
hate crimes based on gender.
875
01:11:33,930 --> 01:11:36,197
So there's no
laws that address...
876
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:38,633
So basically you're unprotected.
877
01:11:38,635 --> 01:11:39,970
Kind of, sort of, yeah.
878
01:11:44,540 --> 01:11:48,542
- Yes, see I don't know.
- You'll be fine, though.
879
01:11:48,544 --> 01:11:50,180
Yeah, I think so,
I think It'll be fine.
880
01:11:55,752 --> 01:11:57,952
The Republican presidential
contest is heating up.
881
01:11:57,954 --> 01:12:01,221
I do not appreciate
882
01:12:01,223 --> 01:12:05,559
using
our military as a laboratory.
883
01:12:05,561 --> 01:12:08,228
The Military is
not a social experiment,
884
01:12:08,230 --> 01:12:11,068
the purpose of the Military
is kill people and break things.
885
01:12:12,769 --> 01:12:16,603
[interviewer] If Caitlyn Jenner would walk
into Trump Tower and want to use the bathroom,
886
01:12:16,605 --> 01:12:21,242
- you would be fine with her using any bathroom she chooses.
- That is correct.
887
01:12:21,244 --> 01:12:26,781
LGBT is starting to like Donald
Trump very much like lately,
888
01:12:26,783 --> 01:12:27,915
I will tell you.
889
01:12:27,917 --> 01:12:30,687
[applause]
890
01:12:35,223 --> 01:12:38,091
This is our meeting with
the chief staff of the Army,
891
01:12:38,093 --> 01:12:40,663
we've been back
for multiple meetings.
892
01:12:47,736 --> 01:12:50,073
I'm meeting with the Commandant
of the Marine Corps.
893
01:12:56,378 --> 01:12:59,048
I'm meeting with the Vice
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
894
01:13:01,184 --> 01:13:03,216
[Jenn] I wish I knew like,
what they want to know.
895
01:13:03,218 --> 01:13:06,886
I wish I knew what it is
that they want to hear from us
896
01:13:06,888 --> 01:13:09,726
or what piece of information
they feel like is missing.
897
01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:14,694
We talked about like, this is what we
think bathroom policy should look like,
898
01:13:14,696 --> 01:13:18,165
this is what we think PT's policy should look
like and they kept getting caught up on,
899
01:13:18,167 --> 01:13:21,102
"Well, what if a service member needs
longer? What if they're not ready?
900
01:13:21,104 --> 01:13:23,069
What if there's
a transitional time?
901
01:13:23,071 --> 01:13:27,808
What if a service member fails
a PT test after transition?"
902
01:13:27,810 --> 01:13:30,877
- Then they fail a PT test.
- Right. And the one guy goes,
903
01:13:30,879 --> 01:13:33,113
"What if a transgender
service member has other issues
904
01:13:33,115 --> 01:13:34,749
outside of being transgender?"
905
01:13:34,751 --> 01:13:36,317
- Well, what issue?
- I'm like, I don't know.
906
01:13:36,319 --> 01:13:37,852
[Sue]
If we couldn't get this done
907
01:13:37,854 --> 01:13:40,121
before this president
leaves office,
908
01:13:40,123 --> 01:13:45,291
it could be
another five to ten years.
909
01:13:45,293 --> 01:13:49,295
My biggest worry is, "Holy shit,
if we're where we thought we were,
910
01:13:49,297 --> 01:13:52,265
these questions should've
been asked six months ago.
911
01:13:52,267 --> 01:13:55,268
They should've been
answered in fucking January."
912
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:57,773
What are they still doing?"
913
01:13:59,141 --> 01:14:02,143
[Sue] So, we were still trying to get a
meeting with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
914
01:14:02,145 --> 01:14:05,880
and it's the end of June.
915
01:14:05,882 --> 01:14:09,720
So we get this requested meeting
with the Secretary of Defense.
916
01:14:12,422 --> 01:14:14,822
We didn't see this coming, no.
917
01:14:14,824 --> 01:14:17,060
We did not expect
this meeting to happen.
918
01:14:20,997 --> 01:14:24,264
Every other meeting we've
gone into, you always hope that
919
01:14:24,266 --> 01:14:28,001
they introduce you to more people
and there's another meeting.
920
01:14:28,003 --> 01:14:31,805
And I don't think anybody's
thinking about that today,
921
01:14:31,807 --> 01:14:35,376
I think today is
the last meeting there can be.
922
01:14:35,378 --> 01:14:41,215
After we talked to the Secretary of Defense, I
don't... I don't know that there's a follow on
923
01:14:41,217 --> 01:14:43,820
that you need to have.
There's nowhere else to go.
924
01:14:46,021 --> 01:14:48,154
I'm hoping that today it's
happening because they're preparing
925
01:14:48,156 --> 01:14:49,926
to release the policy soon.
926
01:14:56,498 --> 01:14:58,465
- Good.
- Okay, you guys ready?
927
01:14:58,467 --> 01:15:01,068
- Yes, ma'am.
- All right, let's rock and roll.
928
01:15:01,070 --> 01:15:03,774
[energetic music]
929
01:15:17,919 --> 01:15:19,989
Good afternoon, everyone
thanks for being here.
930
01:15:21,324 --> 01:15:26,292
I'm here today to announce some changes
in the Defense Department's policies
931
01:15:26,294 --> 01:15:29,063
regarding
transgender service members.
932
01:15:29,065 --> 01:15:35,335
The Defense Department and the Military need
to avail ourselves of all talent possible,
933
01:15:35,337 --> 01:15:41,442
in order to remain what we are now the finest
fighting force the world has ever known.
934
01:15:41,444 --> 01:15:46,412
Last July I directed the commencement of
a study to identify the practical issues
935
01:15:46,414 --> 01:15:50,084
related to transgender
Americans serving openly.
936
01:15:50,086 --> 01:15:53,420
We had to look carefully
and deliberately, but medical,
937
01:15:53,422 --> 01:15:56,023
legal and policy
considerations that...
938
01:15:56,025 --> 01:15:59,827
We had to take into account the
unique nature of military readiness
939
01:15:59,829 --> 01:16:02,429
and make sure we got it right.
I think it's fair to say,
940
01:16:02,431 --> 01:16:05,965
this has been an educational
process for a lot of people here
941
01:16:05,967 --> 01:16:07,503
in the Department, including me.
942
01:16:09,305 --> 01:16:12,540
I'm announcing today that we're ending
the ban on transgender Americans
943
01:16:12,542 --> 01:16:14,241
in the United States Military.
944
01:16:14,243 --> 01:16:16,812
Yes, yes, yes!
945
01:16:19,481 --> 01:16:22,282
Taking these steps,
we're eliminating policies
946
01:16:22,284 --> 01:16:26,019
that can result in transgender
members being treated differently
947
01:16:26,021 --> 01:16:29,423
from their peers based solely
upon their gender identity
948
01:16:29,425 --> 01:16:31,360
rather than upon
their ability to serve.
949
01:16:33,195 --> 01:16:36,831
We're confirming that going forward,
we will apply the same general principles,
950
01:16:36,833 --> 01:16:39,567
standards and procedures
to transgender service members
951
01:16:39,569 --> 01:16:41,872
as we do to all service members.
952
01:16:48,110 --> 01:16:51,879
Policy has been
changed, ya'll, hallelujah!
953
01:16:51,881 --> 01:16:52,612
[laughter]
954
01:16:52,614 --> 01:16:55,616
Oh my God.
955
01:16:55,618 --> 01:16:59,155
All this is definitely hitting me a
little more than I thought it would.
956
01:17:01,423 --> 01:17:03,859
[sighs]
957
01:17:05,461 --> 01:17:07,897
It's just nice to
finally be recognized
958
01:17:10,333 --> 01:17:13,170
and to hear someone else say all
the things we've been saying.
959
01:17:18,341 --> 01:17:19,342
Yeah, it's a good day.
960
01:17:28,016 --> 01:17:31,086
[background conversation]
961
01:17:34,589 --> 01:17:37,327
I'm looking up
like, wedding dances.
962
01:17:38,327 --> 01:17:44,098
I can barely walk in a straight line.
I mean, you want me to dance?
963
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:46,133
- Shopping, shopping.
- Okay.
964
01:17:46,135 --> 01:17:48,402
- I got pepper, pepper.
- Oh, put on some sea salt.
965
01:17:48,404 --> 01:17:50,004
- Salt, salt.
- Oh.
966
01:17:50,006 --> 01:17:52,142
That's good. That was good.
967
01:17:53,676 --> 01:17:55,278
- You all right, Laila?
- Yeah.
968
01:17:58,213 --> 01:18:02,116
You ready? You can chicken out
if you want right now, you know.
969
01:18:02,118 --> 01:18:04,050
[laughter]
970
01:18:04,052 --> 01:18:04,954
I love you.
971
01:18:10,059 --> 01:18:14,864
[music]
972
01:18:19,435 --> 01:18:22,372
[applause]
973
01:18:44,025 --> 01:18:47,961
[news anchor] The Republican nomination
for the US Presidency was finally settled.
974
01:18:47,963 --> 01:18:52,566
John Kasich's exit today
after Ted Cruz's last night...
975
01:18:52,568 --> 01:18:55,602
We gave it everything we've got.
976
01:18:55,604 --> 01:18:58,138
- ...left it all to one person.
- The voters.
977
01:18:58,140 --> 01:19:00,506
- Maybe you've heard of him.
- We had a tremendous victory tonight,
978
01:19:00,508 --> 01:19:02,044
It was a tremendous victory.
979
01:19:04,579 --> 01:19:10,017
So when the ban was lifted, I was in Taji,
Iraq and we were supporting an advise
980
01:19:10,019 --> 01:19:13,519
and assist mission
to help the Iraqi army
981
01:19:13,521 --> 01:19:15,492
into Mosul to defeat ISIS.
982
01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:21,728
We were are all sitting around the
table, I'm just nervous, I'm sweating.
983
01:19:21,730 --> 01:19:24,665
I'm just like, "Oh, God." Like, "How am I
going to like, how am I going to tell them,
984
01:19:24,667 --> 01:19:27,604
but I have to tell them."
Then I said, "T,
985
01:19:29,105 --> 01:19:31,337
I want you guys to
know something about me,
986
01:19:31,339 --> 01:19:35,242
this is who I am and this is...
These are the steps I'll be taking once
987
01:19:35,244 --> 01:19:38,444
we get back to the States, but
I want you all to know that."
988
01:19:38,446 --> 01:19:43,082
And it was so inconsequential
to them that it was like,
989
01:19:43,084 --> 01:19:47,755
"You're ours, you're my officer,
you're my leader, we don't care.
990
01:19:47,757 --> 01:19:52,126
Pass the ketchup, pass the hot sauce.
Let's eat so we get back to the office."
991
01:19:52,128 --> 01:19:55,562
[news anchor] Four polls that have
Clinton up by at least 10 points,
992
01:19:55,564 --> 01:20:00,403
could we be seeing our first
true landslide in a long time.
993
01:20:03,571 --> 01:20:06,407
[Logan] I am preparing to take
the AFOQT which stands for
994
01:20:06,409 --> 01:20:08,411
the Air Force Officer
Qualifying test.
995
01:20:09,412 --> 01:20:12,481
I've been doing math tutoring on
my days off, paying out of pocket.
996
01:20:17,820 --> 01:20:20,219
I want to stay in
the Military until retirement
997
01:20:20,221 --> 01:20:23,292
and why not take a
shot at becoming an officer?
998
01:20:28,763 --> 01:20:33,200
[news anchor] At this point, it seems the
election could be won by either candidate.
999
01:20:33,202 --> 01:20:36,437
[new anchor 2] The latest average of
national polls shows Hillary Clinton
1000
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,607
about two points
ahead of Donald Trump.
1001
01:20:50,285 --> 01:20:52,853
[Colonel Isenhower III] We watch very
closely company command positions
1002
01:20:52,855 --> 01:20:55,656
because we put a lot on the
shoulders of company commanders.
1003
01:20:55,658 --> 01:20:57,657
They have incredible
responsibilities,
1004
01:20:57,659 --> 01:21:01,194
they can exercise the Uniform
Code of Military Injustice
1005
01:21:01,196 --> 01:21:03,831
and they
can also adjudicate law.
1006
01:21:03,833 --> 01:21:08,504
These positions are revered in our army
necessarily and we choose very carefully.
1007
01:21:12,173 --> 01:21:13,810
[commands]
1008
01:21:14,810 --> 01:21:18,478
It's my prerogative alone
who takes that company command
1009
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:22,648
but I asked five key leaders
who are my closest advisers,
1010
01:21:22,650 --> 01:21:25,551
who they thought should be the
next Headquarters and Headquarters
1011
01:21:25,553 --> 01:21:29,156
Company Commander and their
recommendation was unanimous.
1012
01:21:29,158 --> 01:21:31,528
They all thought Captain
Peace was the clear choice.
1013
01:21:41,704 --> 01:21:44,571
If somebody asks me if
Captain Peace serving in my unit
1014
01:21:44,573 --> 01:21:49,309
was a social experiment, my retort
would be pretty clear and pretty quick.
1015
01:21:49,311 --> 01:21:51,612
I don't experiment
with command positions.
1016
01:21:51,614 --> 01:21:57,151
That position was clear and obvious
for me that she was right for the job.
1017
01:21:57,153 --> 01:22:00,520
Her performance and her potential
were outstanding and frankly,
1018
01:22:00,522 --> 01:22:02,822
outpaced those of her peers.
1019
01:22:02,824 --> 01:22:05,358
This is one of the greatest organizations
that I've had the opportunity
1020
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:09,929
to serve in my career. I look forward
to being able to support and enable you
1021
01:22:09,931 --> 01:22:12,265
in the mission
of the years ahead.
1022
01:22:12,267 --> 01:22:14,404
- Head Hunters.
- [applause]
1023
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,741
Right now, a historic moment.
We can now project the winner
1024
01:22:20,743 --> 01:22:22,943
of the Presidential Race
CNN projects.
1025
01:22:22,945 --> 01:22:25,845
Donald Trump
wins the Presidency.
1026
01:22:25,847 --> 01:22:28,350
[applause]
1027
01:22:35,958 --> 01:22:39,893
[Lindsay] What we're going to learn
today, is about transgender individuals.
1028
01:22:39,895 --> 01:22:43,362
Without further ado, I
want to introduce Laila Ireland.
1029
01:22:43,364 --> 01:22:45,599
[clapping]
1030
01:22:45,601 --> 01:22:48,268
Um, Aloha
and good morning everybody.
1031
01:22:48,270 --> 01:22:51,237
Like Lindsey said,
I am a transgender individual.
1032
01:22:51,239 --> 01:22:52,574
I'm an Army Veteran.
1033
01:22:54,142 --> 01:22:58,545
Since I left the Military, I've been
able to go on these speaking engagements
1034
01:22:58,547 --> 01:23:01,747
where I talk about
being trans in the Military.
1035
01:23:01,749 --> 01:23:06,855
I came out to my parents two weeks
before I actually left home to deploy.
1036
01:23:07,890 --> 01:23:10,791
It was tough.
It was a tough time and...
1037
01:23:10,793 --> 01:23:15,461
I really wish that I could still be in
the Military and put the uniform on,
1038
01:23:15,463 --> 01:23:21,171
but my purpose is now to make sure that
this doesn't happen to anybody else.
1039
01:23:25,873 --> 01:23:31,612
I was at a 30-plus day training
rotation in the middle of Fort Bliss,
1040
01:23:31,614 --> 01:23:33,947
Texas/New Mexico
1041
01:23:33,949 --> 01:23:38,484
and I... You know, I just started
getting these texts, and it's just like,
1042
01:23:38,486 --> 01:23:41,688
"I'm so sorry, are you okay?"
1043
01:23:41,690 --> 01:23:44,491
I'm like, "My parents die?"
1044
01:23:44,493 --> 01:23:46,559
I'm like, " What is going on?"
1045
01:23:46,561 --> 01:23:48,295
I didn't even
see it on Facebook.
1046
01:23:48,297 --> 01:23:49,996
I asked them and I was
like, "What do you mean?"
1047
01:23:49,998 --> 01:23:53,269
And they like, you know
"The President's tweets"
1048
01:23:54,436 --> 01:23:57,807
[crowd chanting]
1049
01:24:10,452 --> 01:24:14,257
[music]
1050
01:24:30,838 --> 01:24:34,374
[crowd] 15,000.
Thank you for your service.
1051
01:24:34,376 --> 01:24:38,312
15,000. Thank you
for your service.
1052
01:24:38,314 --> 01:24:42,049
15,000. Thank you
for your service.
1053
01:24:42,051 --> 01:24:45,852
[reporter] Secretary of Defense,
James Mattis, is reportedly appalled
1054
01:24:45,854 --> 01:24:49,389
by the President's decision
to ban transgender people
1055
01:24:49,391 --> 01:24:50,791
from serving in the Military.
1056
01:24:50,793 --> 01:24:55,929
Shame. Shame. Shame.
Shame. Shame. Shame.
1057
01:24:55,931 --> 01:24:59,800
[reporter] Thursday, the Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs, General Joseph Dunford,
1058
01:24:59,802 --> 01:25:03,603
released this written statement,
that there will be no modifications
1059
01:25:03,605 --> 01:25:07,040
to the current policy until the
President's direction has been received
1060
01:25:07,042 --> 01:25:12,511
by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary
has issued implementation guidance.
1061
01:25:12,513 --> 01:25:16,718
In the meantime, we will continue to
treat all of our personnel with respect.
1062
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,053
[Gen Mark A. Milley] But I do want
to reiterate one thing up front.
1063
01:25:20,055 --> 01:25:24,057
Uh, it's this issue of the transgender
news that came out, uh, the other day.
1064
01:25:24,059 --> 01:25:27,827
Uh, and it should be no surprise
to anyone, but the entire force,
1065
01:25:27,829 --> 01:25:33,399
the entire chain of command will,
always has, will today and will tomorrow
1066
01:25:33,401 --> 01:25:37,938
and always should, treat every single
soldier, sailor, airmen, marine, coastguard
1067
01:25:37,940 --> 01:25:42,108
with dignity and respect for their service
and the Cloth of our Nation, bar none.
1068
01:25:42,110 --> 01:25:46,746
[reporter] Why did you try to announce the
transgender ban reversal a couple of weeks ago?
1069
01:25:46,748 --> 01:25:50,050
- Are you betraying a community that you pledged to support...
- No, no. Look,
1070
01:25:50,052 --> 01:25:51,785
I have great respect
for the community.
1071
01:25:51,787 --> 01:25:55,788
I think I have had great
support from that community
1072
01:25:55,790 --> 01:26:01,094
I got a lot of votes. But the transgender,
the Military is working on it now.
1073
01:26:01,096 --> 01:26:05,732
They're doing the work. It's
been a very difficult situation.
1074
01:26:05,734 --> 01:26:12,104
And I think I'm doing a lot of people
a favor by coming out and just say it.
1075
01:26:12,106 --> 01:26:16,041
As you know, it's been a very
complicated issue for the Military.
1076
01:26:16,043 --> 01:26:18,381
It's been a very
confusing issue for the Military
1077
01:26:19,114 --> 01:26:21,751
and I think I'm doing
the Military a great favor.
1078
01:26:29,557 --> 01:26:32,658
[Logan] What's the future going to hold for me
in the Military? This is what I want to do,
1079
01:26:32,660 --> 01:26:35,194
this is what I'm focused on.
Now, you're telling me I can't
1080
01:26:35,196 --> 01:26:38,197
because of
what standard or what reason.
1081
01:26:38,199 --> 01:26:41,734
You know, if you give me facts, then we can
talk about it but I don't see facts right here
1082
01:26:41,736 --> 01:26:43,472
as to why I
can't become an officer.
1083
01:26:45,207 --> 01:26:47,874
You know, are we still
going to be allowed to deploy
1084
01:26:47,876 --> 01:26:50,977
and we're still going to allow, you know,
going to different training opportunities.
1085
01:26:50,979 --> 01:26:52,778
Uh, what's that
going to be for medical?
1086
01:26:52,780 --> 01:26:55,749
Are we still going to
get the same medical benefits?
1087
01:26:55,751 --> 01:26:59,085
My wife and I, we have to
put adoption processes on hold
1088
01:26:59,087 --> 01:27:01,121
because I don't know if
I'm going have a job come March.
1089
01:27:01,123 --> 01:27:02,925
I don't know what
the future looks like.
1090
01:27:06,928 --> 01:27:09,728
People that enter the Military,
they want the same things, right?
1091
01:27:09,730 --> 01:27:13,800
They want a better future, they want a more
stable foundation, they want education benefits,
1092
01:27:13,802 --> 01:27:17,103
medical benefits,
to do something that's bigger than them,
1093
01:27:17,105 --> 01:27:20,139
to serve for their brothers and
sisters, and I want the same thing.
1094
01:27:20,141 --> 01:27:23,712
So, my future is the same future
as everybody else in the Military.
1095
01:27:24,913 --> 01:27:29,782
Why are you denying me
that... that want to serve?
1096
01:27:29,784 --> 01:27:33,522
[dramatic music]
1097
01:28:29,578 --> 01:28:33,013
[Elle] Please welcome Laila and
her husband, Staff Sergeant Logan.
1098
01:28:33,015 --> 01:28:34,684
[Applause]
1099
01:29:29,269 --> 01:29:34,269
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