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IF I THINK OF GERMANY AT NIGHT
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Intense.
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Wow.
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The record is from the seventies.
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Intense.
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They were into it back then already.
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My goodness, what an elaborate sleeve.
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At this point in 2016...
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At the moment,
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there is a lot of very good music.
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A lot of good producers
have established themselves.
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Everything has become easier,
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so there is this huge variety of music.
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And that's great for a lot of people,
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but for many others it's overwhelming.
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Big hits can't develop
the way they did in the past,
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when DJs often decided
on two or three things.
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That's got very, very hard.
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And all I can say is:
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the tapestry is huge
and it's endless too.
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That's what the music
feels like right now.
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It's immense. An enormous variety.
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And you can go in any direction.
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So you can become very specialized,
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and it's virtually impossible to describe
all the different genres and categories.
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And for someone who has no clue,
it's really hard to explain it to them.
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The tapestry is very, very refined,
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the pattern is barely discernible,
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and you have to examine it
for a long, long time
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to recognize its structure
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and see the individual colours.
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To get there,
you have to listen to tons of music,
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devote a lot of time to the music,
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and really delve into old records,
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before you can really grasp
the foundation.
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And what I really like
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is that the house music I'm involved in
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reinvents itself every five years or so.
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It revolves like a merry-go-round,
always arriving at the same place again.
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But the funny thing is,
each time it's arranged differently,
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the sounds are a bit different,
and suddenly everyone is on board again.
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And it's really nice to watch
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how young people then identify
more strongly with the new part,
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and that creates this link
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to where the old DJs are sitting,
so to speak.
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So Ricardo, Roman, me, all the DJs
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will always reach
into the old record box,
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take out the old records,
and mix them up with the new stuff.
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And the kids
come and ask about the old stuff,
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thinking that it's new stuff,
but it's not new,
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it's 20 years old.
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And that's really interesting.
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But the evolution goes on and on.
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I have no idea where it will end.
I really don't see an end to it.
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LONG LIVE CHILE!
LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE!
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PRESIDENT ALLENDE'S LAST SPEECH
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Before I started collecting music,
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buying records,
and later mixing music myself,
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long before that,
I was already into the scene.
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Because that kind of music
always appealed to me.
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And here in Switzerland,
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and especially in Geneva,
there were no events whatsoever.
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It was very difficult to find parties
where they played electronic music.
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That was in the very early 90s.
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You had to go over
to the German part of Switzerland.
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But the focus there was mainly on trance.
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If you wanted something more like house,
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you had to go over to Germany.
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So we would take
these "weekend expeditions",
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to Frankfurt, mostly.
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I think that was before the nineties.
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The club was Omen in Frankfurt.
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After that we started going to Munich.
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There was an area in Munich
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with a club called Ultraschall,
inside what used to be Riem Airport.
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I was very young and I went
looking for that music everywhere.
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I didn't find it in France
or in Switzerland.
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It was the scene in Germany
that appealed to me.
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Ever since then,
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I've wanted
to be more than just a spectator.
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I wanted
to take the music home with me too.
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But you couldn't find it in the stores,
so you had to find other ways to get it.
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And through my German network,
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I had access to that music,
I bought it,
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and started spinning records.
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And before long,
I got an offer from a club in Geneva
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that was always at the avant-garde
of electronic music,
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a club called Weetamix,
which still exists today.
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They invited me to play there
as resident DJ.
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So I played there
two or three times a month,
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often as an opener
for international guests.
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So gradually,
we started getting music
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that was a bit more refined
than what we'd had before.
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Labels like Playhouse, Perlon,
DJs like Zip, Ata,
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and Losoul as well,
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Heiko MSO and others,
they were here all the time.
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And out of this exchange developed
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some good ties between us.
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Zip invited me to Germany
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to DJ at the Panorama Bar in Berlin.
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That was in 2003.
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From the start, it was always
the music that connected us.
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We weren't from the same place,
or from the same generation.
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It was just the music that connected us
and you could only find it there.
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What did we have here?
We had Bhagwan discos.
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Bhagwan discos
were basically our uptight parents
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liberating themselves.
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It has something to do with rhythm,
something like,
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"I'll dress up all in white
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so no one can tell who I am,"
and off it goes.
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A good sound system, loud music,
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and "let it all hang loose!"
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Why did they stop organizing them?
They were pretty cool.
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But our scene
developed out of that, in a way.
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My mom wasn't a Bhagwan,
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unfortunately.
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My mom was a strict Catholic.
From Spain.
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And when I was 14,
I had to be home by 8 p.m.
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But through the music,
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and what the music gave me...
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My neighbour, who was a black G.I.,
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gave me a Herbie Hancock record.
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I listened to it and then heard
Kraftwerk on the radio.
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And that became my tapestry,
which I just wove together.
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And I thought,
"Wow, what is this?"
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I had this sense of liberation,
a liberation that enabled me
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to get out of the house
and get into house music.
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Out onto the dance floor.
And I saw what went on there.
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You play a record
and the people over there start moving.
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All these emotions are released.
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It was such a fascinating
and profound experience that I said,
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"Okay, I'm going to try to do
what that guy on TV is doing.
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He's got those two turntables,
but what's that thing in the middle?"
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It was so exciting to me, so fascinating.
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And I could see all this technology,
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I was interested in it,
and I tried to figure it out.
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That's how I was catapulted out,
with this immense force,
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out into the night.
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And I realized
what was going on out there.
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There was no end.
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I could dance as long as I wanted.
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It's truly an adventure.
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There are very few secure channels
between the musicians.
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So from the drummer's bass drum,
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there's a kind of channel
with a trigger signal
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over to Max's bass synthesizer.
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That's basically the only channel,
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everything else is more or less
played spontaneously on top,
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and I click in manually
with my modular system.
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So there's a tap button
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which I tap twice, depending on the beat.
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And that launches my system,
and Max's system too.
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And so that can go in any direction.
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Luckily nothing went wrong on Sunday,
but that can happen.
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That kind of "dis-control", if you will,
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that moment of "uncontrol"
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is basically a frequency which,
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before it can become rhythmic,
is often too free-form.
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So in order to turn it
into a rhythmic element, for example,
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which only has a short transient,
like a "bing" or "bong" or "boong",
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you need an enveloping curve,
something that controls it.
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So, as I was saying,
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one third of all this equipment
is made up of controllers,
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and the rest would just love
to scream out all the time:
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...or make some noise or other.
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But that's kept in check.
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Someone tries to control it,
and that, ultimately, is the music.
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Other musicians have certain frequencies
available to them,
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but in electronic music, we have
all the frequencies available to us.
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The others can only make use
of a certain frequency range.
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And everyone tries out different things,
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little by little, to see what works.
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It's kind of like a lively conversation
between different people.
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Some people are having a dialogue
and then others interrupt,
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and it forms a kind of consensus.
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That's pretty much
what happens in music.
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You're playing to different worlds,
of course.
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A dance floor is a world
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where there is a very clear language,
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a rhythmic language
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with some melodic dabs of colour,
so to speak.
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And here in this jazz or sound concert,
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even the musicians
don't know what's happening,
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or what will happen.
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But for me, it's always the same thing.
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No matter if I'm standing on stage,
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playing some strange
popping or creaking sounds,
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or if I'm playing it in a club,
or listening to it at home.
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Or even if I do it with my own mouth
or hear those sounds around me,
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I always try to bring it together
under the same roof,
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I always try to be the same person.
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This place is a big soundscape.
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And sounds are ultimately
the inspiration for music.
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You have the sounds of insects
alongside the traffic noise.
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I used to lie down in the stairwell,
right in front of the door,
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listening to the draft
which carried resonant tones,
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and to me they were melodies.
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It's important to recognize
the difference in volume
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at festivals, parties and clubs.
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And here,
where you really have to listen.
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Your ears get sensitized.
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What I do is more
on the quiet side anyway,
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so I'm naturally more interested
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in what creeps and crawls
beneath the surface.
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It's certainly...
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a source of inspiration.
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In general, but especially here.
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On the one side, you have
the open plain towards the west:
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Paris and New York are that way.
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And over here in the basin,
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the acoustics change.
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They get trapped between the mountains.
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There are other places too:
the Scheffelterrasse by the castle,
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where the arches reflect the sounds
of the city like parabolic mirrors.
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So whenever I go for a walk here,
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my ears take a walk too.
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Well, to be an astronaut...
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I'm from the generation
that saw the moon landing as a kid,
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and the outer space missions as well,
especially Apollo 13.
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When was that? 1973?
I was seven and experienced all of that.
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"They're up there.
We don't know how to get them back."
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That really fascinated me.
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Another key experience was my father
taking me to see Stanley Kubrick's 2001.
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You had to be six to see the film
and I wasn't.
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I remember the cashier saying,
"He's not six yet",
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and my dad saying,
"But I'm accompanying him."
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I must've seen that film at least
30 times in the course of my life.
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It left such an impression
on me as a child.
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That film really shaped me
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for the rest of my life.
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The wish or dream
of becoming an astronaut
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was shattered early on
because my eyesight wasn't good enough.
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And ultimately,
those ascetic preparations,
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the total discipline
and the complete isolation
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wouldn't be my thing either.
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But it was always an idea
that fascinated me.
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But to make the link
back to this place...
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At least it's a city of science.
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You have astrophysics:
the Max Planck Institute, EMBL.
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My father was an astrophysicist
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and worked at the Max Planck Institute.
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So there are those links.
There's the observatory.
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Not a planetarium:
an observatory with a telescope
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to peer into the heavens,
dating back to the Art Nouveau period.
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So there are things here
which tie into the topic.
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But ultimately, it's just a metaphor.
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Sun Ra, not only of Saturn,
but of music itself.
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Music, the bodiless way
of travelling or moving,
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in your imagination or however.
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To me, it's the most fascinating
form of art that exists,
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because it can't be grasped.
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It can be measured in space
and it makes atoms move.
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So you can see it, in a way.
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But ultimately,
it's something that flows through you.
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And by conserving it,
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by writing it down
in the form of sheet music,
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it has become reproducible.
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The effect can be reproduced at will,
and doesn't cost a thing.
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And that's unique:
food is consumed, you eat it
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it gets digested,
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then you move on
to pick the next berry.
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But music is like a Pandora's box
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where you can keep reaching in,
where you can try...
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to remain open to it,
to hear new things and to integrate them,
265
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but much of it just remains the same.
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Miles Davis' trumpet,
for example, or the Beatles,
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or João Gilberto, Jobim...
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Bach...
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Chopin...
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All of these things remain
coordinates in the solar system.
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What's funny is that some planets
regain their relevance,
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and you want to go back,
while others might drift further apart.
273
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At any rate,
music is a cosmos of its own.
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That's the larger parallel
that can be drawn.
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And the borders
between physics, mathematics
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and music and philosophy
are absolutely fluid.
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Seen from a broader perspective,
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it even extends to the theological
and spiritual realm.
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For something that is essentially
without a value and a body,
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it's incredible
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and has fascinated me my whole life.
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Like perhaps nothing else.
Apart from animals maybe.
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And all of the wonders of nature.
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And the parallels that can be drawn:
octaves as...
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dual frequencies, frequency ratios,
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which make so much sense
in nature and in physics.
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All of this
can be transferred and applied.
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For as long as anyone can remember,
NASA's website...
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has shown phenomena from space:
those jets, for example,
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those waves of material
shooting forth from supernovas.
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You can hear those things,
but you hear nothing in outer space
292
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because sound doesn't carry,
293
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so these inaudible processes
are made audible.
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But it's funny
that the other way around,
295
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you can take these phenomena
that are so hard to grasp
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and understand them better
by making them audible.
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Yes. And I am
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a fan of music
that's been composed and conceived,
299
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but what I meant
with the sound of the wind under a door
300
00:46:20,458 --> 00:46:24,792
is that music in chaos
or in nature is also fascinating.
301
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When I was in my early twenties,
I met a fringe scientist,
302
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who approached music from the perspective
of physics and biology.
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He started to take yeast cultures
304
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and to make their reproduction audible.
305
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And to some extent...
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these functions result in incredibly
interesting and audible algorithms.
307
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So it's pretty fascinating...
308
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how the information
contained in the universe,
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at visible and invisible levels,
visible light, invisible waves,
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how they always interlink
and interlace with each other.
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How mind and body, and everything...
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It's the ultimate psychedelic experience
313
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to understand that everything is one,
so to speak.
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And conversely, to understand
that one thing also contains everything.
315
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So, there's an apple hanging next to you.
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Can you make a connection?
- Apples, Apple computer. Newton, gravity.
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When I was younger,
me and my stepfather
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used to build those spaceships as well,
319
00:47:46,250 --> 00:47:51,208
and eventually that transitioned
seamlessly into building instruments.
320
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:56,708
My stepfather,
who helped me a lot with that stuff,
321
00:47:56,875 --> 00:48:01,208
took me to the orchards and we fed apples
to the horses for the first time.
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I'll never forget it.
It was a meadow just like this one.
323
00:48:05,333 --> 00:48:07,958
So that's immediately what came to mind:
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"You know that apple tree."
325
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:14,250
But the apple as such...
Adam and Eve and all that,
326
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we could make an entire movie about that.
327
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In Paris, we were doing some filming,
328
00:52:59,583 --> 00:53:02,583
a few days after the attacks in Brussels,
329
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a couple of months
after the Paris attacks,
330
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maybe a few weeks
before the next attack.
331
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What effect does that have on you,
on your job
332
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and on the places where you work?
333
00:53:17,167 --> 00:53:22,625
What was interesting is that
on the evening of the first Paris attack,
334
00:53:22,792 --> 00:53:26,667
the Charlie Hebdo attack,
I was playing in Paris at the Rex Club.
335
00:53:26,833 --> 00:53:29,542
And I feared the worst,
336
00:53:30,167 --> 00:53:33,083
and it was all very shocking, of course,
337
00:53:33,250 --> 00:53:35,833
and the whole thing
didn't feel good at all.
338
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,250
You didn't know if the event
should take place or not.
339
00:53:39,417 --> 00:53:43,333
The streets were deserted,
and there were police everywhere.
340
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:46,083
The trip from the airport
into the city
341
00:53:47,833 --> 00:53:50,042
felt really different,
342
00:53:50,208 --> 00:53:54,083
with flashing lights
and roadblocks and all of that.
343
00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:57,000
And then, strangely enough,
344
00:53:57,167 --> 00:54:01,583
the evening was extremely...
ecstatic, almost.
345
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:05,500
The vibe was great
and there were loads of people.
346
00:54:05,667 --> 00:54:08,083
But it's a very ambivalent thing.
347
00:54:08,250 --> 00:54:11,000
When the most recent attack
in Paris happened,
348
00:54:11,167 --> 00:54:13,250
I was playing at Fabric in London.
349
00:54:13,417 --> 00:54:18,750
At dinner, I looked down at my phone
and realized it was happening again.
350
00:54:21,833 --> 00:54:25,083
And it doesn't feel good or right at all.
351
00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:30,292
Ultimately, I never really know
how to justify a party.
352
00:54:31,208 --> 00:54:36,083
That evening, you could tell
that people were more occupied
353
00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:40,875
with trying to get the latest news
on their smartphones,
354
00:54:41,042 --> 00:54:44,708
especially at the beginning of the event,
355
00:54:44,875 --> 00:54:47,167
than focusing on the party.
356
00:54:47,333 --> 00:54:51,042
At any rate, what's going on
right now is really distressing.
357
00:54:51,208 --> 00:54:56,542
You can't see exactly where it will lead,
or whether it will ever end.
358
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,708
When I played in Tel Aviv
for the first time many years ago,
359
00:55:02,875 --> 00:55:07,917
I had to go through a checkpoint
like everyone else.
360
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A security check,
like the checks at airports.
361
00:55:14,333 --> 00:55:18,125
And at that time,
it all seemed very far away to me.
362
00:55:18,292 --> 00:55:22,833
And now I'd say
that it's moved very close to all of us.
363
00:55:28,917 --> 00:55:31,542
A club is very vulnerable as it is.
364
00:55:31,708 --> 00:55:35,792
It exists to allow you
to break out of your normal life,
365
00:55:35,958 --> 00:55:40,792
to let go of all the rules
that you're otherwise subject to.
366
00:55:40,958 --> 00:55:46,833
And if such a situation
becomes normalcy, so to speak,
367
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,000
if you can't be safe
in a place like that,
368
00:55:50,167 --> 00:55:52,667
it changes something,
at least temporarily.
369
00:55:52,833 --> 00:55:57,042
At some point,
it probably becomes kind of routine.
370
00:55:57,833 --> 00:56:00,875
But we're not at that point yet.
371
00:56:01,042 --> 00:56:05,708
We're still at the point
where people feel extremely unsettled.
372
00:56:06,583 --> 00:56:08,917
And you can only hope
373
00:56:09,083 --> 00:56:12,542
that it doesn't become a target.
374
00:56:18,708 --> 00:56:23,042
It would be asking too much,
because I could never do justice to it
375
00:56:23,208 --> 00:56:26,500
by striking the right chord.
376
00:56:26,667 --> 00:56:28,958
Instead, I do what I do,
377
00:56:29,125 --> 00:56:31,875
I do what I'm good at,
378
00:56:32,042 --> 00:56:36,583
but I'm not the master of ceremonies
379
00:56:36,750 --> 00:56:41,583
who finds the right chord
whenever disaster strikes somewhere.
380
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:44,750
That's asking too much.
No one can do that.
381
00:56:44,917 --> 00:56:49,250
I think it's much more important,
in fact, to say,
382
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:53,375
"What we're doing here is important."
383
00:56:54,917 --> 00:56:58,500
And the current situation
is making this even clearer.
384
00:56:58,667 --> 00:57:01,792
That it's a very vulnerable situation,
385
00:57:01,958 --> 00:57:05,917
but that it's essential
for a lot of people.
386
00:57:06,083 --> 00:57:08,500
It's a legitimate thing
387
00:57:08,667 --> 00:57:11,667
to live your life in this way.
388
00:57:12,333 --> 00:57:18,042
So I just hope we'll soon be able
to do that again without feeling scared.
389
01:02:48,833 --> 01:02:51,667
I think that music
390
01:02:51,833 --> 01:02:55,750
had a different significance back then.
391
01:02:57,917 --> 01:03:00,292
Also with regard to religion.
392
01:03:02,875 --> 01:03:05,375
During Calvin's time in Geneva,
393
01:03:05,542 --> 01:03:07,750
music and entertainment
394
01:03:07,917 --> 01:03:11,042
were prohibited and neglected.
395
01:03:11,583 --> 01:03:13,958
During that period,
396
01:03:14,125 --> 01:03:17,625
people were living
with a certain degree of anxiety.
397
01:03:18,417 --> 01:03:23,042
Everyone wants to enjoy themselves,
it's part of human nature.
398
01:03:23,208 --> 01:03:25,333
So this prohibition
399
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:28,542
was like forbidding people from living.
400
01:03:30,208 --> 01:03:35,042
They were rejecting
the idea of living a full life.
401
01:03:35,583 --> 01:03:39,583
And I think that this had
402
01:03:39,750 --> 01:03:43,083
certain consequences.
403
01:03:44,667 --> 01:03:50,417
If you assign a function to music,
and say it's a negative function,
404
01:03:50,583 --> 01:03:53,542
you turn it into a pejorative,
negative element.
405
01:03:53,708 --> 01:03:56,292
And that's a dangerous thing to do.
406
01:03:57,583 --> 01:04:02,125
There is music in religion.
There's religious singing.
407
01:04:02,292 --> 01:04:05,500
And there's this idea
408
01:04:06,458 --> 01:04:11,333
of repressing music as entertainment,
at least in certain religions.
409
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,833
Certain religions
prohibit dancing at parties,
410
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,875
because music
is only allowed to be religious.
411
01:04:22,792 --> 01:04:26,625
So there certainly is a relationship
412
01:04:26,792 --> 01:04:28,958
between music and religion.
413
01:04:29,125 --> 01:04:31,708
Nowadays, there are certain countries
414
01:04:31,875 --> 01:04:35,125
that neglect both music and religion.
415
01:04:35,292 --> 01:04:38,875
In some countries in the north,
416
01:04:39,042 --> 01:04:42,458
there is no kind of musical communion,
417
01:04:42,625 --> 01:04:44,833
there is no communal singing.
418
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,583
People are timid,
there's no singing, no talking.
419
01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:52,667
Some Nordic countries
really repress these kinds of things.
420
01:04:54,458 --> 01:04:59,583
So there's a lot more cold techno music
coming from those countries
421
01:04:59,750 --> 01:05:03,708
than from southern Spain
or southern Italy.
422
01:05:03,875 --> 01:05:06,542
There's an obvious difference.
423
01:05:19,667 --> 01:05:21,167
Of course.
424
01:05:27,458 --> 01:05:31,000
I travel with a lot of records.
425
01:05:34,292 --> 01:05:36,458
To make sure that I'm able
426
01:05:37,958 --> 01:05:39,875
to take the people
427
01:05:40,042 --> 01:05:42,292
where I want to have them.
428
01:05:45,042 --> 01:05:49,333
You can't just arrive somewhere,
429
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:52,917
force your message onto the people
430
01:05:53,083 --> 01:05:54,917
and expect them to receive it.
431
01:05:55,083 --> 01:05:57,458
It requires a certain finesse
432
01:05:57,625 --> 01:06:01,208
to get to the point
where people listen to you.
433
01:06:01,375 --> 01:06:04,042
And then you can
communicate your message.
434
01:06:04,208 --> 01:06:07,792
So I make sure
I have a wide range of records
435
01:06:07,958 --> 01:06:12,583
in case I want to play something
a bit cooler, a bit more reserved.
436
01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:14,792
Or, on the other hand,
437
01:06:14,958 --> 01:06:18,500
maybe something more cheerful
at the beginning.
438
01:06:18,667 --> 01:06:22,208
And then I'll take them
where I want them to go.
439
01:06:22,375 --> 01:06:25,542
But I need time for that.
One hour is not enough.
440
01:06:25,708 --> 01:06:28,958
I need two or three hours
to achieve that.
441
01:06:29,125 --> 01:06:31,583
And it doesn't always work.
442
01:06:33,542 --> 01:06:37,708
When it works, it's poetry. Or...
- Exactly.
443
01:06:37,875 --> 01:06:40,417
When it works...
444
01:06:40,583 --> 01:06:43,125
When it works...
445
01:06:43,292 --> 01:06:47,958
When it works,
it's a divine moment of communion.
446
01:06:58,167 --> 01:07:00,833
It's a real climax.
447
01:07:04,125 --> 01:07:06,125
And if it doesn't work,
448
01:07:06,292 --> 01:07:09,292
somehow it's not so bad either.
449
01:07:09,833 --> 01:07:13,625
Then you have to try another approach,
450
01:07:13,792 --> 01:07:17,000
try to present it differently,
451
01:07:17,167 --> 01:07:19,250
to get things moving.
452
01:07:19,417 --> 01:07:22,958
If it worked every time,
you wouldn't make any progress.
453
01:07:23,125 --> 01:07:26,167
You could stop when the year was out.
454
01:07:48,333 --> 01:07:51,958
You have to go a long way back
to answer that.
455
01:07:53,208 --> 01:07:56,667
In Germany,
electronic music fortunately...
456
01:07:58,958 --> 01:08:00,583
fortunately...
457
01:08:00,750 --> 01:08:03,792
it emerged
as early as the 1950s and 1960s,
458
01:08:03,958 --> 01:08:06,000
through people like Stockhausen.
459
01:08:06,167 --> 01:08:08,917
And it developed slowly from there,
460
01:08:09,083 --> 01:08:12,458
with a lot of musical experimentation.
461
01:08:12,625 --> 01:08:16,208
Unfortunately,
it didn't get much recognition
462
01:08:16,375 --> 01:08:19,167
and visibility in German society.
463
01:08:23,958 --> 01:08:27,167
People like Conny Plank
464
01:08:27,333 --> 01:08:30,875
then took it a step further.
465
01:08:31,042 --> 01:08:33,083
That led to Krautrock.
466
01:08:33,417 --> 01:08:35,500
That led to Kraftwerk.
467
01:08:35,667 --> 01:08:39,500
And as a result, the German influence
468
01:08:39,667 --> 01:08:42,250
spread to the US.
469
01:08:42,417 --> 01:08:44,583
The Americans loved our stuff.
470
01:08:44,750 --> 01:08:48,208
The black community
couldn't get enough of it,
471
01:08:48,375 --> 01:08:52,417
this harsh, electronic, cold dance music.
472
01:08:52,583 --> 01:08:56,333
That's how they described it,
and they were totally fascinated
473
01:08:56,500 --> 01:08:58,708
by the precision...
474
01:08:58,875 --> 01:09:00,792
of an Audi.
475
01:09:00,958 --> 01:09:04,292
And they were totally into that music,
476
01:09:04,458 --> 01:09:08,125
and totally fascinated
by the sound quality of the music.
477
01:09:08,292 --> 01:09:10,958
Of course it had a lot to do
478
01:09:11,125 --> 01:09:13,708
with German technology,
479
01:09:15,917 --> 01:09:19,667
and in the US,
this led to the music scene
480
01:09:19,833 --> 01:09:22,958
and the gay scene
starting to pay attention.
481
01:09:23,125 --> 01:09:25,917
And then it all kind of merged
482
01:09:26,083 --> 01:09:29,125
with everything in their scene,
483
01:09:29,292 --> 01:09:34,000
and out of that developed house,
they invented house music.
484
01:09:34,167 --> 01:09:38,917
And Germany played a huge role
485
01:09:39,083 --> 01:09:43,542
in that whole electronic music community.
486
01:09:43,708 --> 01:09:48,083
And today, even though the centres
are New York and London,
487
01:09:48,250 --> 01:09:51,167
in Germany we don't have a centre.
488
01:09:51,333 --> 01:09:55,167
I wouldn't say that the centre
is only Berlin, or Cologne or Munich.
489
01:09:55,333 --> 01:10:00,458
There's a Cologne sound, a Munich sound,
a Berlin sound, a Frankfurt sound.
490
01:10:01,375 --> 01:10:04,417
But ultimately, in Germany...
491
01:10:04,583 --> 01:10:08,083
there really is a German sound.
492
01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:11,208
Made in Germany is something that exists:
493
01:10:11,375 --> 01:10:14,417
techno, electronic dance music.
494
01:10:14,583 --> 01:10:16,208
For the whole world.
495
01:10:16,375 --> 01:10:20,042
And we've been a major export
496
01:10:20,208 --> 01:10:21,875
for over ten years now.
497
01:10:22,042 --> 01:10:25,833
And the biggest and best DJs
498
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,333
come from Germany right now.
499
01:13:19,667 --> 01:13:23,667
In the past, tones and sounds
500
01:13:23,833 --> 01:13:26,792
used to be musicians
playing in an orchestra,
501
01:13:26,958 --> 01:13:31,583
different frequencies
represented by different musicians.
502
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:37,542
And at some point, people wanted
to create these sounds themselves,
503
01:13:37,708 --> 01:13:41,417
without the musicians,
with a synthesizer, for example.
504
01:13:43,542 --> 01:13:47,792
And those values, the idea
of enabling the creation of a tone,
505
01:13:47,958 --> 01:13:50,375
out of a complex context,
506
01:13:50,542 --> 01:13:53,875
out of a certain circuitry,
with certain resistors.
507
01:13:54,042 --> 01:13:56,208
And this whole thing belongs...
508
01:13:56,375 --> 01:13:59,667
with all of the developments involved...
509
01:13:59,833 --> 01:14:04,417
it's all part of the world as a whole
that we appreciate so much.
510
01:14:04,583 --> 01:14:07,417
And that's why it all belongs together.
511
01:14:07,583 --> 01:14:11,375
It has to do with
an appreciation of being together,
512
01:14:11,542 --> 01:14:14,000
an appreciation of communication,
513
01:14:14,167 --> 01:14:18,458
an appreciation
of listening to music together,
514
01:14:18,625 --> 01:14:21,375
going to concerts,
even going to a soccer game.
515
01:14:21,542 --> 01:14:26,708
The appreciation of being together
has something to do with the beginnings
516
01:14:28,292 --> 01:14:31,042
of stored or recorded music.
517
01:14:31,208 --> 01:14:33,500
Because with recorded music,
518
01:14:33,667 --> 01:14:36,458
you could take it somewhere
519
01:14:36,625 --> 01:14:40,708
and utilize it by playing it
and dancing to it.
520
01:14:40,875 --> 01:14:45,958
You used to have to wait by the radio
for the DJ to play that music.
521
01:14:46,125 --> 01:14:48,667
Or you listened to hr3 Clubnight,
522
01:14:48,833 --> 01:14:52,750
or you heard some music once a week
523
01:14:52,917 --> 01:14:55,125
when you listened to the charts.
524
01:14:55,292 --> 01:14:57,958
But only for that particular moment.
525
01:14:58,125 --> 01:15:01,917
Now you have the chance to do it anytime
526
01:15:02,083 --> 01:15:04,458
and that's why we're cultivating it.
527
01:15:04,625 --> 01:15:09,583
And of course it has to do
with the origins of sound. That too.
528
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:14,125
This community
of shared values at a party
529
01:15:15,042 --> 01:15:18,542
is a very low-level community.
530
01:15:18,708 --> 01:15:21,792
That means you reduce all values
531
01:15:21,958 --> 01:15:24,875
to the lowest common denominator,
532
01:15:25,042 --> 01:15:28,208
so that no one can show up
with complicated values
533
01:15:28,375 --> 01:15:32,167
and everyone can meet on the basis
of the lowest common value.
534
01:15:32,333 --> 01:15:35,417
And that is a consistent, rhythmic music.
535
01:15:35,583 --> 01:15:39,875
This consistent, rhythmic music,
which doesn't get you too excited,
536
01:15:40,042 --> 01:15:42,833
and doesn't cause too much of a stir,
537
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,833
but gives you a certain foundation
the whole time,
538
01:15:48,292 --> 01:15:51,958
brings together huge numbers of people
539
01:15:52,125 --> 01:15:55,750
in this age of atomization
and individualism.
540
01:15:55,917 --> 01:16:00,500
And that's what's so fascinating
about the whole thing,
541
01:16:00,667 --> 01:16:04,500
and that's why all of us
are so interested
542
01:16:04,667 --> 01:16:07,583
in this idea
of bringing people together.
543
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:11,625
It has to do with the values
we used to have.
544
01:16:11,792 --> 01:16:15,792
Nowadays, people think
that their independence
545
01:16:15,958 --> 01:16:19,458
gives them a certain degree of freedom.
546
01:16:19,625 --> 01:16:23,458
But of course, independence
547
01:16:23,625 --> 01:16:27,542
brings with it a certain loneliness,
548
01:16:28,417 --> 01:16:32,833
and people emerge out of this loneliness
and meet at parties.
549
01:16:34,167 --> 01:16:38,125
And facilitating this situation
550
01:16:38,292 --> 01:16:40,333
is our role in all of this.
551
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:43,292
That's what fascinates us all.
552
01:16:46,083 --> 01:16:49,042
That's what's so great
about the whole thing.
553
01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:15,000
The studio is basically
just a reflection of the rest of life.
554
01:25:15,167 --> 01:25:20,667
And the rest of life doesn't just consist
of happiness or wonderful moments.
555
01:25:20,833 --> 01:25:23,000
Instead, you sit here
556
01:25:23,167 --> 01:25:26,333
and you're faced
with your own weaknesses.
557
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:31,042
But that's what makes it exciting
and it's all part of it.
558
01:25:31,208 --> 01:25:34,208
You have days, weeks
or maybe even longer
559
01:25:34,375 --> 01:25:37,208
where you're just not on form.
560
01:25:37,375 --> 01:25:42,667
And that becomes a problem
if you just throw in the towel.
561
01:25:42,833 --> 01:25:47,917
It's always been very important to me
to be able to cross a line
562
01:25:48,083 --> 01:25:52,833
and put up with
a certain level of dissatisfaction,
563
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,292
but not to give up.
564
01:25:55,458 --> 01:25:59,333
Because this means everything to me,
565
01:25:59,500 --> 01:26:03,458
with all of its ups and downs,
so I'd be crazy to put it at risk.
566
01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:07,458
It's actually
the part that I enjoy the most.
567
01:26:09,125 --> 01:26:12,792
So what you make for yourself
at the weekend,
568
01:26:13,875 --> 01:26:16,542
financially speaking,
569
01:26:16,708 --> 01:26:19,958
allows you to have this freedom
in the studio?
570
01:26:20,125 --> 01:26:21,333
Absolutely.
571
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:25,500
To be honest,
and this is common knowledge today...
572
01:26:25,667 --> 01:26:29,792
the money you make
from selling records and streaming
573
01:26:29,958 --> 01:26:34,625
isn't as much as it used to be,
in my experience.
574
01:26:34,792 --> 01:26:38,208
So the live sets
are absolutely essential.
575
01:26:38,375 --> 01:26:40,958
It all goes hand in hand these days.
576
01:26:41,125 --> 01:26:44,125
I have to get out there at the weekend
577
01:26:44,292 --> 01:26:48,167
to make sure
I have the artistic freedom
578
01:26:48,333 --> 01:26:50,292
to sit in this studio here
579
01:26:50,458 --> 01:26:54,125
without having someone in the background,
580
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,875
breathing down my neck.
581
01:28:00,792 --> 01:28:05,208
Well, I'm at a strange point
in my life right now.
582
01:28:05,958 --> 01:28:10,667
On the one hand, I'd like to bring
my musical career to an end.
583
01:28:11,167 --> 01:28:13,125
I've sold my records.
584
01:28:13,292 --> 01:28:16,375
And I have to say:
I still don't miss them.
585
01:28:16,542 --> 01:28:19,458
I actually feel quite liberated.
586
01:28:19,625 --> 01:28:22,042
But on the other hand,
587
01:28:22,208 --> 01:28:27,208
it's really nice to find myself
reconstructing the music in my mind,
588
01:28:27,375 --> 01:28:30,625
based on what I can still remember.
589
01:28:30,792 --> 01:28:35,583
I then look for the music on my computer
and find some of it too.
590
01:28:35,750 --> 01:28:40,208
So I'm building up a digital collection
of my favourite tracks
591
01:28:40,375 --> 01:28:42,750
on this little hard drive.
592
01:28:42,917 --> 01:28:48,375
Now I can do what I always wanted to do:
I can play a huge range of music.
593
01:28:48,542 --> 01:28:51,208
I can take my pick,
which I couldn't before.
594
01:28:51,375 --> 01:28:55,583
So in a way, I've taken it
to a whole new, professional level.
595
01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:59,000
Before, I had 80 or 90 records
596
01:28:59,167 --> 01:29:01,792
and couldn't really do that.
597
01:29:02,625 --> 01:29:05,333
I actually wanted to quit altogether.
598
01:29:05,500 --> 01:29:08,583
I wanted to do something else:
599
01:29:08,750 --> 01:29:11,875
I wanted to be surrounded by nature.
600
01:29:12,042 --> 01:29:16,625
I've bought a house with my girlfriend
in Italy on a mountain.
601
01:29:16,792 --> 01:29:18,625
An old borgo.
602
01:29:19,250 --> 01:29:23,042
And I wanted to escape there,
and that's what I'll do.
603
01:29:24,167 --> 01:29:26,583
You can hear birds chirping.
604
01:29:26,750 --> 01:29:30,125
It's been so long
since I heard five or six voices
605
01:29:30,292 --> 01:29:32,750
blending together without a bass drum.
606
01:29:32,917 --> 01:29:37,292
And it's so funny because
when you listen to the birds,
607
01:29:37,458 --> 01:29:39,208
they're singing melodies.
608
01:29:39,375 --> 01:29:41,958
So you're sitting there in the sun,
609
01:29:42,125 --> 01:29:45,375
enjoying life without a bass drum:
it is possible.
610
01:29:45,542 --> 01:29:48,042
So it's a great change of scenery.
611
01:29:48,208 --> 01:29:51,625
And then suddenly a cuckoo
pops out of nowhere too.
612
01:29:51,792 --> 01:29:55,417
And that's the fascinating part of it.
613
01:29:56,958 --> 01:29:59,708
It's also great to dig
my fingers into the earth,
614
01:29:59,875 --> 01:30:02,792
to come into contact with something else.
615
01:30:02,958 --> 01:30:05,250
That's essential for me.
616
01:30:05,417 --> 01:30:07,792
I'm a big food lover too.
617
01:30:07,958 --> 01:30:11,125
I want to get into that more
and grow my own food,
618
01:30:11,292 --> 01:30:14,292
to draw a different type
of strength from that,
619
01:30:14,458 --> 01:30:19,542
so I can kind of recharge
my batteries for Friday night.
620
01:38:02,125 --> 01:38:05,125
But if we look out of that window here...
621
01:38:05,917 --> 01:38:10,208
You know that this place
was a kind of children's home, right?
622
01:38:10,375 --> 01:38:13,042
In East Germany.
- Or was it a kindergarten?
623
01:38:13,208 --> 01:38:18,792
Well, I think
it was a kind of convalescent home.
624
01:38:19,833 --> 01:38:25,042
Local children came here on holiday
to get their spirits up, or whatever.
625
01:38:25,917 --> 01:38:28,833
Maybe they can tell you
more about what it was.
626
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,542
But if we just look out of that window...
627
01:38:32,708 --> 01:38:36,458
Well, we're not exactly
being blinded by the lights
628
01:38:36,625 --> 01:38:40,833
of an Asian capital
or New York or Chicago or whatever.
629
01:38:41,875 --> 01:38:43,583
But actually...
630
01:38:44,750 --> 01:38:48,125
But going by the soundscape,
we could be in Calabria.
631
01:38:55,917 --> 01:38:58,708
It still looks pretty good here...
632
01:38:58,875 --> 01:39:02,500
The rest of Berlin
is barely recognizable anymore.
633
01:39:09,042 --> 01:39:10,750
Crazy.
634
01:39:10,917 --> 01:39:13,250
It's crazy how time has sped by,
635
01:39:13,417 --> 01:39:15,625
because it's all connected:
636
01:39:15,792 --> 01:39:18,167
techno, the fall of the Wall,
637
01:39:18,333 --> 01:39:20,958
reunification, and Berlin...
638
01:39:21,875 --> 01:39:24,542
as the "stage" for all of this.
639
01:39:26,583 --> 01:39:29,083
It's all got so long in the tooth,
640
01:39:29,250 --> 01:39:31,625
but it still keeps on going.
641
01:39:33,542 --> 01:39:35,125
Like we do.
642
01:39:35,292 --> 01:39:38,583
Techno is like an institution now.
643
01:39:38,750 --> 01:39:41,917
It will just go on forever because...
644
01:39:44,375 --> 01:39:46,333
it's almost like a virus.
645
01:39:46,500 --> 01:39:51,292
The means of production
have been radically democratized.
646
01:39:51,458 --> 01:39:56,000
Anyone can do that shit now,
even with their crappy phone.
647
01:39:56,167 --> 01:39:59,792
You just have to go ahead
and do it and so...
648
01:40:01,292 --> 01:40:05,167
There's no stopping it anymore,
and for years now,
649
01:40:05,333 --> 01:40:09,750
I'm sure that
there are way more people producing it
650
01:40:09,917 --> 01:40:12,375
than really consuming it.
651
01:40:12,542 --> 01:40:15,750
And I don't mean superficially.
652
01:40:15,917 --> 01:40:18,958
If you really immerse yourself in it,
653
01:40:19,125 --> 01:40:22,958
it's almost impossible to avoid
giving it a go yourself.
654
01:40:23,125 --> 01:40:25,625
It's just an obvious choice:
655
01:40:25,792 --> 01:40:28,667
we all have the tools at our fingertips.
656
01:40:31,208 --> 01:40:34,208
IF I THINK OF GERMANY AT NIGHT
657
01:40:39,500 --> 01:40:43,625
I can't really say, to be honest.
I can't think of a pithy answer.
658
01:40:46,417 --> 01:40:48,458
Just that one sentence?
659
01:40:56,208 --> 01:41:00,917
Well, if we're talking
about music and nightlife,
660
01:41:02,375 --> 01:41:06,750
it's probably the best thing
that could have happened to Germany,
661
01:41:06,917 --> 01:41:09,167
these 25 years of techno music.
662
01:41:09,333 --> 01:41:12,333
When I think
of other things going on here,
663
01:41:12,500 --> 01:41:15,875
some of it makes me feel
pretty scared, to be honest.
664
01:41:16,042 --> 01:41:20,500
So I'm really happy
there's something to balance it out.
51655
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