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Previously on The Hack. Think who edited
the paper. Think about where he sits
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now. I mean, I know Andy Coulson. Him,
sitting next to the Prime Minister.
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That's wrong in every way. The police
have Mulcair's notebooks. If we can get
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them into the public eye, we'll see who
hired who, how high this goes, who was
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being hacked.
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Just be safe with yourself.
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Just be safe.
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It's the Daniel Morgan case.
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We've had some witnesses finally come
forward.
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You cannot be taking phone calls from a
protected witness.
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From today, you will have no further
contact with Gary Eden whatsoever.
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Max, we've got them on the rack. You
settle, the whole thing gets covered up
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again. You've got them on the rack? With
what? The Murdochs agreed to pay
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Clifford more than a million pounds.
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Our biggest gun was spiked.
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Our liberal conservative government will
take Britain in a historic new
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direction. A direction of hope and
unity, conviction and common purpose.
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I'm delighted to be standing here with
the new Deputy Prime Minister, and I
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would like now to invite him to speak to
us on what I think is a remarkable and
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very welcome day.
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Thank you, David. We've just been
through an election campaign, and now we
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a coalition.
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Until today, we were rivals, and now
we're colleagues.
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It's unusual.
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It'll cost you.
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All that work given to someone else to
buy life. I'm finding it a little bit
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hard to get my head around.
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Look.
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BBC are playing it on repeat. I've
watched it 15 times. It was sickening
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first time.
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Andy Coulson now sits at the right -hand
side of God as a direct link between
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Number 10 and Murdoch. I don't like that
whisper chat. We need our... Our own
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coalition. We need allies.
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We have allies. I'm assembling a huge
team of lawyers. People are working
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together. We need allies in the press.
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Yeah, I think I've tried. Nobody will
touch it.
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Thank you.
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Well, they weren't on Fleet Street, but
I've always thought a lot of Glen
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Campbell. I think Panorama will bite.
No, no, no. The BBC won't risk a battle
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with Murdoch. Well, then there's
Dispatches, maybe, and internationally,
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Keller.
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You can't think the New York Times would
want to be involved. Murdoch's hold on
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the Wall Street Journal is galling to
Bill. I think he could... Well, I've got
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resources, of course, but... Ah, then
they won't share back.
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TV acts, mate, the New York Times.
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This will always be your story, Nick.
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No, it's bigger than that.
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Me.
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Oh, I can't make friends at school. Why
not a pen pal? I get it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I get it. It's a good idea. It's a
necessary idea.
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Good.
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So, Nick Davis and the Guardian are
losing the exclusive but winning the
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Steve? Yeah.
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I'm aware that it has taken a few years
to get to this point, and many of us are
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eager to draw these pre -trial hearings
to a close.
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But I'm afraid a new matter has arisen
that requires our attention.
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Last night, an application was made by
the counsel for the defendants as
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a possible irregularity in the conduct
of this investigation in relation to the
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prosecution witness, Mr. Gary Eaton.
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In order to resolve this, it is my view
that we must spend some time hearing
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evidence directly from DCS David Cook
and the officers in his team, which will
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begin on Monday.
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These rules are ridiculous.
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They are tight on this one. No
conferring Macaulay. May not work with
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officers day in, day out. They don't
want you to prepare.
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basically. It's known as an ambush
defense. And they want me to tell them
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everything about Gary Eaton?
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Well, the suspects are sitting right
there. If the judge does decide to lose
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Gary Eaton's evidence, it would be a
significant setback.
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Oh, losing Gary Eaton would be a fucking
disaster.
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So, we do what the judge tells us to.
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All you have to do is answer the
questions.
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Dave will be fine.
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He's good in the spotlight.
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And while you sit in the spotlight, boy
scout behavior.
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Day in, day out.
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Agreed? The defense could put you under
surveillance. They could track your car,
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your phone. They'd love nothing more
than to catch you out.
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These men have been under arrest for
over a year. This is a fucking farce.
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Nothing to do with truth. Nothing to do
with justice.
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Do the best we can within the system
we've got.
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What do you call three Pulitzer Prize
winners sitting in a row?
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A murder, an ambush, an armada?
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Do you really call them help?
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This is quite something.
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It's remarkable journalism, Nick. Thank
you.
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Any sense they're doing it in America,
too?
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A few suspected names, nothing firm.
It's all in there.
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You have no one on record from News of
the World?
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No. But plenty off the record.
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Am I right?
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She's trying to get you to reveal who
your Mr. Epomo is.
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Oh, I see. You think he's a news
international insider.
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Interesting.
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Um, but no, not sharing. And frankly,
even if I wanted to, he's disappeared.
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Do you have an angle, though?
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Your paper?
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You know, Bill's instincts were royal
family, Murdoch's, press intrusion. In
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that order?
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We'll find our way.
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It's important no one can say that we
colluded with you or were baby fed just
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stand your story up. You're not here to
stand my story up. I wasn't saying that.
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The idea is we further each other's
stories. Anything new we get, we know
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the keeper of the flame.
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We'll bring you in.
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I'd say likewise. I've given you all I
have.
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I don't know when this started either.
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You might get a call from the New York
Times in the next two days. New York
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Times? Fancy.
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They're getting involved.
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We're giving them what we have.
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Two newspapers are better than one.
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You know, Nick, when I look at the kids
who come around for playdates, I
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instinctively know who are good at
sharing and who aren't. And you... Alan
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thinks it's a good idea. I think it's a
good idea. You weren't very good at
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sharing at all.
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Why? I'm not done.
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They'll do their thing.
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It actually makes it easier to pursue.
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I was actually quite good at football as
a kid, so that's what I would have done
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at your playdate. I'd have found a ball
and kicked it. I didn't care about toys.
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Anyway, I have an idea.
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So Harry Evans wrote in his memoir about
a plane crash.
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I don't know Harry Evans.
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Editor of the Sunday Times from 1967 to
81.
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Newspaper legend.
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Doesn't that mean he worked for Murdoch?
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Oh, they didn't get on.
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Murdoch fired him?
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Eventually. Actually, first he promoted
him, gave him editorship of the Times,
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but that's not... And he's the hero in
this story.
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I haven't told him the story. Well, your
eyes imply he's the hero.
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So DC -10 in Paris, passenger jet. There
was clearly a problem with the
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manufacture of the plane, but Harry
couldn't print.
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Without evidence.
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Exactly. So Harry got his reporters to
intervene, linked the bereaved families
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with highly effective lawyers in the US
because US courts were more likely to
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order McDonnell Douglas to disclose
internal paperwork.
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My plan is to do the same. Haven't we
already tried that with Max Clifford?
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no. Then you involve me, in your case,
very kindly. Now I'm going to recruit
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you.
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So they bribed Max. They won't be able
to stop an... army of people. If I can
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get a list of the half, encourage them
to come forward, we can flood the
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I can't see you as a footballer.
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Look, Andy Coulson created a culture of
the news of the world. To prove he did
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so, we need to get as many of his top
journalists implicated as possible.
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Marquez notes had Clive Goodman's name
written at the top court record.
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So we can find the other editors who
commissioned him.
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Come on.
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Time to get nuclear, don't you think?
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The inevitable dig followed. I had to
identify, with the help of my furry
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friend, every celebrity politician and
sports star they'd gone after. High
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ranking, the low ranking, the
illustrious, the audacious.
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And then I had to persuade those people,
fight like MP Tessa Jowell.
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Yes, I have been spoken to by the
police.
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All the dirt they had on your ex
-husband came from hacking. And ruined
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marriage, I am aware.
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I'd like to publish an article about
your experiences, and I'd like you to
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consider pursuing it further in court. I
have good lawyer recommendations.
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But that would mean stirring it up.
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We've struggled enough.
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Please, leave it alone.
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I had proof that Charles Clark had been
hacked. I told a friend who knew him to
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tell him. My friend said, He's not
willing to engage.
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With Charlotte's help, I identified a
dozen law firms who specialised in
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representing celebrities.
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I contacted all of them.
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I wish I could tell you their names.
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I'm getting nothing.
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Nothing? They're busy.
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They're worried about reviving an
embarrassing story. They can't afford
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mostly... Mostly, they're frightened.
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I've heard rumours about Nicole Kidman.
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Hello, Charlotte.
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Nice to meet you.
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A charming lawyer. How nice.
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Nicole's lawyer is John Kelly.
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Have you met John Kelly?
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No. She wasn't warned by the police, and
no, she won't be meeting with you or
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any other journalist.
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Mr. Kelly, this is worth pursuing.
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For Nicole, for all your clients. It's
still a no, I'm afraid.
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A hard no.
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Her trustees say no.
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Mark Thompson came about because two of
his clients, one of whom was Big
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Brother's Jade Goody, had been hacked.
Jade had died of cancer.
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They're not interested in pursuing a
case.
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Perhaps I could talk to them. Because
you're more persuasive than me.
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I get it. You're desperate.
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There is another... someone. I can't
give you her name.
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We call her AZP.
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She's very angry.
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They've ruined her life. She's leaning
into all this.
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I don't... Yeah, of course you fucking
would.
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And if she's brave enough to talk more,
then you'll hear more. But until then...
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I'm just also scared.
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They are profoundly scared.
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Mr. Cook, do you accept that a number of
rules were broken with regard to Gary
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Eaton?
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I do. And the issue for the judge to
decide on is the spirit in which these
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rules were broken. Were they broken in
bad faith or was it done transparently
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and in the interests of justice?
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Those are the two sides that we are
litigating at the moment. Do you
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that? Yes, I do.
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Let us begin with your initial meeting
with Mr Eaton.
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It's been suggested that you led the
witness during this conversation.
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I think it's important for me to say
that I never wanted to meet with Mr
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in the first place.
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He insisted he would only speak with me,
so I went along.
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And the job is to find out if he was
valid.
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And to do that, you have to ask some
probing questions.
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Give me the name of the brothers.
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That's hardly a probing question, is it,
Mr Cook?
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He wasn't interested in any brothers at
all, was he? You gave him the brothers.
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I gave him the brothers. I did not give
him the name of the brothers. You were
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aware at that first meeting of how
important it was to preserve the
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the process?
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And that's what I thought we were doing.
It was all recorded.
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And we all have the transcripts here
before us, but that wasn't my question.
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It was a simple question.
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Let's try another.
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Do you accept that by having direct
phone conversations with a witness, you
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breaching the sterile corridor system?
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Yes, I do, but I would say...
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that this was a particularly difficult
set of circumstances.
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It wasn't difficult at all. All you had
to do was say to this man, I'm sorry,
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the rules are I'm not allowed to have
direct contact with you. You have your
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witness protection handler. They can
sort out any problems you may have, but
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from now on, you must not ring me, and
if you do, my phone will bar you. And
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that is what I did on several occasions.
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Did you ever bar Gary Eaton from calling
your phone?
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It's not always possible in every type
of form.
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Are you saying that it's not possible
from a metropolitan police phone?
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It's a terribly simple question.
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He changed his number. I didn't know his
number.
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I'd like to turn now to the issue of
your note -taking.
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My Lord, between August the 23rd and...
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The 16th of September 2006, not one of
Mr. Cook's numerous telephone calls to
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Eton appears on the schedule.
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Mr. Cook, do you mind telling us how it
is that between the 23rd of August and
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the 16th of September, you managed to
make so many calls without recording any
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of them?
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From memory, the vast majority, if not
all.
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What to do with Mr. Eaton's welfare, his
domestics, stuff like that, nuisance
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stuff. But you accept, do you not, that
the court has no way of knowing what was
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said during these calls?
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I accept that, my lord. Do you mind if I
sit down? I suffer from vertigo.
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Please.
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Let us look at tab number nine. We can
see top line.
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But the debrief begins on the 1st of
August. We can see that it's followed
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next day by a call which is 15 minutes
long.
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That one is logged. Then on the 28th of
August, there's a nine -minute call
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which is not logged. Then on the 1st of
September, Eaton suddenly changes his
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story. He says for the first time that
he was at the scene of the murder.
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What are you suggesting?
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I'm suggesting that that may not be a
coincidence, Mr. Cook.
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I suppose you're going to deny it and
say that it is just a coincidence?
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You're going to deny that during these
unlogged calls, you were feeding Mr.
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Eaton his story?
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Why would I do not? This case has been
causing the Metropolitan Police untold
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embarrassment for over two decades.
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You were desperate to nail someone.
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Of course.
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If you think you have somebody who may
be an eyewitness, you embrace them with
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both arms. But you allowed this
dishonest, mentally ill man to run riot
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your investigation. Not only that, but
you manipulated him because he was
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manipulable and because he was your one
way of bringing this case back to life
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and ending your career with a real coup.
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Isn't that what has gone on here, Mr.
Cook?
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You could not be farther from the truth,
sir.
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If you haven't changed your ways, no
chance.
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Thanks.
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Can you still win? Now that we lost Gary
Eaton, the entire case.
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Rather than to win it.
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Lindsay Wright, Jimmy Cook's ex
-girlfriend, who was basically a fucking
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nightmare.
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And James Ward, our original supergraph,
was a rat to get better.
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Nine days they kept me in that bed.
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And day one, I really thought I could
win.
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Hope.
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Yeah, I remember hope.
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I'm sorry they did that to you.
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You didn't deserve it.
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Yeah, maybe I did.
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It's all about you.
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Can you, um, win?
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Journalism isn't about winning or
losing. It's about the gradual erosion
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-worth.
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Alan's given the story to Panorama and
the New York Times, and he's probably
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right, because I can't get anyone to go
to court, which means we can't... I
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thought I had a way to get to Mulcair's
notes. I thought I was finally getting
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somewhere, but like everything, I tried.
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What about Jonathan Rees?
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Surely he's just as bad as Mulcair.
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He's on trial, if you haven't noticed.
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We raided his house a few years ago.
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We found invoices on his desk.
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Rees to Alex Marinchuk for the News of
the World. Now, Rees went to prison for
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conspiring to prefer the course of
justice, came out, and went right back
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the Employee News of the World while
Andy Coulson was the editor.
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Andy Coulson?
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News of the World employed a convicted
criminal?
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Now, this fell into your lap, OK?
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You can't quote me.
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You can't name Rees.
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But you can use this to nail them.
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This could get you in serious trouble.
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I'm already in serious trouble.
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So you're calling Jonathan Rees Mr.
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Ray? I think it's my best pseudonym yet.
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Can't name him till after the Morgan
trial.
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It's very tenuous legally even to hide
him under a pseudonym. His lawyers can
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claim contempt of court.
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Coulson being in government is a
contempt.
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It's a good story. Does it stand out? My
source is solid. Jonathan Rees was in
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prison for conspiring to pervert the
course of justice.
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And the news of the world rehired him.
R3 was released from prison while
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was editor.
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Feels a good one.
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We'll need to give Coulson a right of
reply.
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This is the most archaic practice,
giving people quotes in articles against
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them. It's just free advertising space
for their lies. I think it's necessary.
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If we publish his right of reply, we'll
be misleading our readers.
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Whatever the fight, I think it's better
to stick to established journalist
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practice, don't you? What would you know
about journalism? You're a lawyer.
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Nick, could you maybe talk to her with a
bit more respect?
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Oh, fuck off. With respect. Nick.
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Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Rufus.
Sorry, Jill. I know how vital you are to
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this. Just busy time, busy head.
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I'll alert some people.
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Go back stairs.
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I know this will spread.
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The other newspapers, they can't ignore
this. They'd have to.
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Jill? If he gets the quote from Corden,
I think we can argue public interest.
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I agree.
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Thank you.
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This is good.
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Whoever your source is, this is good.
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Would it surprise you to know it didn't
spread?
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All the other newspapers ignored the Mr.
A story.
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We'll get them next time.
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The trouble with next time... The
trouble with... You'll
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get them next time.
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I don't have a next time.
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You stupid child.
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Nicholas, Nicholas, don't be dramatic,
Nicholas.
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Now, let's get a washcloth for that
blood, shall we?
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I don't have it next to me.
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Hi, Nick David.
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Nick, it's Jo Becker, New York Times.
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Oh, yeah, hi.
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Is now not a good time?
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No, it's fine.
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How can I help?
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We're going to publish.
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Great. What?
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Sean Hoare is going on the record.
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He's a genuine insider.
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Oh, more than that, he's Coulson's
friend.
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They worked the Celebrity Bazaar column
that Coulson made his name on.
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What did he say?
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Well, he talked about Coulson a lot.
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I had a good relationship with him, as
it goes.
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Yeah, I could do what the fuck I wanted.
It's nice. I came in with a good story.
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The brief was...
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I don't give a fuck.
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The news of the world meeting is more
fun than Guardian, wasn't it?
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You're not wrong.
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But I asked him.
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Did he know what's going on, Coulson?
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New York Times over here on this side.
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Yeah. Oh.
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Why? We want to investigate whether an
ethical line has been crossed.
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At least I'm a Guardian.
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You don't think the Guardian are valid?
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I think the Guardian are being beautiful
beings gazing down from their mighty
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high horses of pious fucks.
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You know, but the thing about you, you
see, is that you're... You're foreign.
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So I like you.
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I personally played voicemail recordings
to the bastard when we worked together
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at the Sun and the Screws.
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You played recording?
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It's cool.
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Sean, is that on the record?
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I want a New York Mets top.
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I'm sorry?
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I want a New York Mets top, and then
it's on the record.
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Okay.
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Sure. Great.
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So I want to say we go completely crazy
and have another orange juice.
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Thank you.
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This is very good.
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I don't think they made clear the link
with Coulson.
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It's good journalism, but it's not... I
love an intimate party, Nick, but it is
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nice, don't you think, to have at least
some other people who want to be there?
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This is the New York Times.
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It's going to be a lot harder to fight
as both.
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This matters.
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It was an extremely good piece.
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The way... It was extremely good. And
what happened next?
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Alan was right. It made everybody
braver.
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Celebrities began to look up. For
instance, Charlotte Harris began to get
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somewhere with a client, football agent
Sky Andrews. They offered him £200 ,000
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a year and £1 .2 million in free
advertising for a charity if he dropped
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case. And? He said no.
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People were willing to fight.
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Most unusual people.
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Hi, Nick Davis. Max Mosley. I'm a fan of
your work.
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Then Max Mosley did something
extraordinary.
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To be clear, we didn't meet at the
Guardian, but this setting will do.
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I'd like to back, financially, anyone
wishing to bring a case against the news
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of the world.
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Indemnify them against costs and
damages.
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Max, that could be millions.
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I'm guessing you saw it.
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Nazi sex orgy photos of me.
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It was not Nazi. It was consenting, but
they didn't care.
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I sued. I got a small reward.
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I survived.
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My son.
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Didn't.
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Heroin overdose one year after the story
was published.
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I'm sorry?
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They can attack us when our children are
damaged.
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But are you sure that this is what you
want to spend your fortune on?
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You underestimate my fortune, Mr. Davis.
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And my anger.
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The world started.
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unfurled before us.
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The strategy started to work.
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Allies were, well, not exactly
everywhere, but gathering.
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And then the game changed.
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Mark Thompson got in touch. His client,
AZP. Do you remember AZP? Well,
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apparently she loved the New York Times
piece and the Mr. A story, and she
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wanted to meet.
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Oh, and AZP, she is... Deanna Miller,
meet Nick Davis.
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Pleasure to meet you.
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Yes, actor.
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Tabloid magnet.
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R .A.'s card.
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He knows it's coming.
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Everyone's been whispering to her to
stop.
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All of Hollywood.
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Some roles are being withdrawn.
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00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:09,130
Others are being promised if she just
lets it go.
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00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:11,470
You've decided to keep fighting?
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00:27:12,010 --> 00:27:17,430
They've also said they've told me that
there is more muck on me they'd use,
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00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:22,410
which is, I mean, probably true, but I
mean, how can they print anything worse?
450
00:27:22,910 --> 00:27:24,170
All the papers are after her.
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00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:28,890
You know, Sienna, can I ask what
happened?
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I can't go into the details.
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And I really don't want to pry, but what
were they digging for?
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Um... Seemingly, anything
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about me is interesting.
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The restaurants I go to...
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what I wear, people I meet.
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But it seems their attention was
particularly grabbed by...
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I got pregnant
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and I had a decision to
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make. You understand?
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And at that time when you're...
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When you're dealing with that, you need
people that you can trust. And I didn't
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trust anyone.
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I thought that they were all selling
stories about me because they knew
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everything.
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And I couldn't work out why. I couldn't
work out why anything I told my friends
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or family was being leaked.
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I thought, I mean, I started to.
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Yeah.
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Hmm.
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I, uh... The number of people that I
trusted grew smaller
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and smaller until there was almost no
one at all.
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I didn't know which way was up. Not
anymore. I drank too much, did all the
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things, damaged my career, damaged
myself.
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And they feasted on it.
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Was this Mulcair?
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We don't know. We don't know who was
doing what. All we know is the results
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00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:20,659
it.
480
00:29:20,660 --> 00:29:26,720
The thing that I was most sorry about
was that I...
481
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,920
I damaged my family.
482
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,360
Once it was all... I
483
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,500
only basically told my mum.
484
00:29:48,850 --> 00:29:50,250
Then they still found out.
485
00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:54,510
And they published and I thought it was
her.
486
00:29:57,870 --> 00:29:59,570
I think I said to her, you know.
487
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:05,070
That's been terrible.
488
00:30:06,970 --> 00:30:08,030
But I'm a celebrity.
489
00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:12,670
I chose all this. It's not their fault.
It's in the public interest.
490
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:16,330
We're taking this all the way.
491
00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:17,750
Good.
492
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,620
We're going to have to disclose this.
493
00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:28,320
I'm afraid we've no choice.
494
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,720
But I ain't done nothing.
495
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,560
Lindsay, your entire search issue's
here. You can see what you searched and
496
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,560
you searched it.
497
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:39,720
But I'm allowed to be curious, aren't I?
498
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,940
Not against the law to be curious. Look,
you're accusing Jimmy Cook of over 30
499
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:48,180
separate murders.
500
00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:53,430
And each time you change a statement and
say you remember a new murder, it comes
501
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:57,210
off the back of an internet search on
how to commit that particular type of
502
00:30:57,210 --> 00:30:58,210
murder.
503
00:30:58,410 --> 00:31:01,810
Disclosing this means that we can no
longer put you forward as a witness of
504
00:31:01,810 --> 00:31:02,810
truth.
505
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:09,650
And I'm afraid, Lindsay, I'm afraid we
lost the only other witness who had
506
00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:10,650
evidence on Jimmy.
507
00:31:11,390 --> 00:31:16,550
So your statement, that was all the
prosecution had to go on.
508
00:31:17,210 --> 00:31:19,610
James Frederick William Cook.
509
00:31:20,330 --> 00:31:21,390
Stand, please.
510
00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:30,090
I direct a verdict of not guilty in
respect of count one, and you are now
511
00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:31,090
to go.
512
00:31:34,770 --> 00:31:36,030
No, no, no, no, no.
513
00:31:36,910 --> 00:31:39,430
What if he... Oh, shit.
514
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:41,990
I'm now number one target, you know
that.
515
00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:43,810
How could you let this happen?
516
00:31:45,530 --> 00:31:46,970
How could you let this...
517
00:32:00,970 --> 00:32:01,970
You take sugar?
518
00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:03,730
Just half.
519
00:32:05,030 --> 00:32:06,290
And a splash of milk.
520
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:08,110
Thanks.
521
00:32:11,850 --> 00:32:13,670
How long you been here then?
522
00:32:14,050 --> 00:32:15,170
Moved in a while ago.
523
00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:21,990
I know, I just haven't had time to...
There's a sofa coming.
524
00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:23,690
Thanks.
525
00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:27,970
Yeah, I was actually pretty choked when
I heard.
526
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,580
You and Jackie always seem solid.
527
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,320
Yeah.
528
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,160
Heard you and Vicky got married. That's
great.
529
00:32:38,420 --> 00:32:41,020
We invited you to the wedding, but you
never RSVP'd.
530
00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:42,780
Did you?
531
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,820
I'm so sorry. It's just... I've been
busy. Frantic.
532
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:51,660
Work. Life.
533
00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:55,420
That's what you get for having friends
who are coppers.
534
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,160
They disappear on you for years on end.
535
00:32:59,210 --> 00:33:00,210
So are Stowe Piles.
536
00:33:04,270 --> 00:33:05,510
But that's not why you're here.
537
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:07,110
You want something.
538
00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:10,350
Alan Rusbridger and the Guardian have
been in touch with us at Panorama.
539
00:33:10,930 --> 00:33:14,570
It's the hacking stuff, but there's also
this story on Jonathan Rees that
540
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:15,469
they've been pushing.
541
00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:19,170
I know you've been on Daniel Morgan, so
Rees is your bag, right?
542
00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:24,510
Look, I'm sorry, we can talk about other
things.
543
00:33:25,290 --> 00:33:27,010
I'm taking my BBC hat off.
544
00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:29,520
Genuinely. Wanted to see you.
545
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,280
How are you?
546
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,840
No.
547
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:37,700
Open.
548
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,240
Oh, that's strange.
549
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,420
A house without kids.
550
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:45,260
Pretty quiet.
551
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,000
I think I need to get better.
552
00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:51,400
Filling in the time.
553
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,200
We should be...
554
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,220
aiming for a coalition of lawyers.
555
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,560
Coalition? In government, no. I have
other friendly lawyers with very high
556
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,140
-profile clients. I do actually know who
you're talking to. With the Sky Andrew
557
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:08,139
case progressing under your watch,
you're still not accepting their terms?
558
00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:12,320
Max Mosley has promised to financially
back any client who comes forward.
559
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,360
we can encourage them all to come
forward now. Nick, breathe.
560
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Okay.
561
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:22,340
You are constantly swaying between utter
despair and this. It's exhausting.
562
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,980
The law takes time.
563
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,500
We are building something.
564
00:34:26,989 --> 00:34:28,010
Let it fucking build.
565
00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:31,050
Stop worrying about the New York Times
getting there before you. This is your
566
00:34:31,050 --> 00:34:32,610
case. I'm not worried about the New York
Times.
567
00:34:33,330 --> 00:34:35,050
I don't have Sienna Miller as a client.
568
00:34:35,409 --> 00:34:39,550
You don't have Sean Hall in your pocket,
but we are all working together. Stop
569
00:34:39,550 --> 00:34:40,570
doing that thing with your hands.
570
00:34:41,889 --> 00:34:44,330
I have another one for you. A former
politician.
571
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:47,770
Apparently, he's had sight of Margot's
notebook.
572
00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:54,429
I've been reluctant to share him
because, well, I think he's tricky, but
573
00:34:54,429 --> 00:34:55,429
want everyone.
574
00:34:56,650 --> 00:34:59,470
What I'm interested in is in Mulcair's
notebooks.
575
00:34:59,690 --> 00:35:03,370
I've no interest in what it shows, but
there'll be a name at the top corner of
576
00:35:03,370 --> 00:35:06,030
the notes, which is the name of someone
at the News of the World.
577
00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:10,870
Have you read what the Guardian has
written about me, about this case?
578
00:35:11,090 --> 00:35:15,490
Tommy Sheridan, a defamation case which
became a perjury case, the process of
579
00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:19,170
disclosure on which allowed him access
to Mulcair and to his paperwork.
580
00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:22,050
And he's right.
581
00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:24,310
The Guardian haven't been kind about it.
582
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:29,180
What I'm going to do is to build a case
against Andy Coulson and the culture of
583
00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:32,500
the news of the world, that the hacking
was endemic. Yes, there's a name. No,
584
00:35:32,620 --> 00:35:35,120
you can't see it. And you certainly
can't print it.
585
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,740
I don't trust journalists, Nick.
586
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:39,658
Not anymore.
587
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:45,000
The name is important because it
undermines the one rogue reporter
588
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,420
which Coulson keeps hiding behind. The
more editors and senior journalists we
589
00:35:49,420 --> 00:35:51,520
can implicate, the more we show them
lying.
590
00:35:59,390 --> 00:36:00,390
Greg Miskew.
591
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:03,410
Greg Miskew, you sure?
592
00:36:04,570 --> 00:36:05,570
I didn't tell you?
593
00:36:06,090 --> 00:36:07,090
You're not printing it?
594
00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:09,750
Greg Miskew was news editor, later
assistant editor.
595
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:14,090
He's retired now, but he reported
directly to Coulson. I know who Greg
596
00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:16,670
now. Do you know how significant this
is? This could blow the lid off. This
597
00:36:16,670 --> 00:36:18,010
to be off the record.
598
00:36:22,690 --> 00:36:28,310
Do you understand that you're
representing yourself in court?
599
00:36:29,339 --> 00:36:30,760
Yes. What if I was to help you?
600
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,400
Go on.
601
00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:37,120
There's very little I know a lot about,
but this issue is one of them. I could
602
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,740
feed you questions, help with your
research, all for nothing.
603
00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:41,020
For the name of the notebook?
604
00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:44,780
That name is dynamite. Greg Mischke is
dynamite. And you can print it?
605
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:46,700
Because it's been stated in court.
606
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,960
I have an idea who you could call as a
witness.
607
00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:51,980
Go on.
608
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,480
Andy Coulson.
609
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,040
You're a traitor.
610
00:36:59,020 --> 00:37:02,920
Start by asking him about Greg Miskew.
He'll deny any knowledge.
611
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,340
Mr. Coulson, these are the written notes
of the former News of the World
612
00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:10,580
employee, Glenn Mulcair.
613
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:12,760
Contractor, not employee.
614
00:37:13,060 --> 00:37:17,540
Mr. Coulson, do you recognize the name
of the top left -hand corner of the
615
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:20,240
It says Greg. This is the big one.
616
00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:26,060
Do you think that name refers to the
former assistant editor, Greg Miskew?
617
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:31,410
No. Not to my knowledge, no. Do you have
any knowledge of Greg Miskew ordering
618
00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:35,790
Glenn Mulcair to hack Tommy Sheridan's
phone? Are you telling me that you never
619
00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:40,990
ordered or were unaware of Greg Miskew
ordering Mr. Mulcair to tap my phone?
620
00:37:41,330 --> 00:37:46,150
No. I had absolutely no knowledge of it,
and I certainly didn't instruct anyone
621
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:52,370
to do anything of the type. Interesting,
because Sean Hall in the New York Times
622
00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:54,690
stated that he played you hacked.
623
00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:59,100
Voicemails. I remain confident there is
no evidence to support Mr. Hall's
624
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:00,280
accusations. That's my position.
625
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,520
Do you have any comment on why Mr. Hall
would have made those accusations?
626
00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:07,180
You should ask Mr. Hall. How bad was the
culture in your newspaper?
627
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,800
I don't accept there was any culture of
phone hacking at the news of the world.
628
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:18,500
There was one unfortunate case involving
Clive Goodman, and no one was more
629
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:19,500
sorry about it than me.
630
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:21,940
And that's why I resigned.
631
00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:24,380
Tommy Sheridan.
632
00:38:25,580 --> 00:38:29,400
We got Miskew's name out there. It
wasn't enough, but we're rattling
633
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,400
cage.
634
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,180
Well, let's see if this sends him over
the edge.
635
00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:36,000
This was lodged in the High Court this
morning.
636
00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:39,280
Worth mentioning, in real life, he made
me go to the courthouse to pick this up
637
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,280
myself.
638
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:42,100
Possibly not worth mentioning.
639
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:44,680
Mulcair blagged her phone number.
640
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,480
I changed my phone twice, and somehow
they always got it.
641
00:38:48,860 --> 00:38:52,700
It wasn't just her phone they were
inside of. They targeted Sienna's
642
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:55,040
boyfriend, his assistant, her publicist.
643
00:38:55,260 --> 00:38:59,720
We analyzed my itemized phone bills, and
then we used them to force the police
644
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,620
to hand over calls made by Mulcair.
645
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,120
The police were sitting on this
information for four years, I'll remind
646
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,680
John Yates.
647
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:07,780
Four years.
648
00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:12,200
And then we linked them to the news of
the world stories.
649
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,020
There was a name that appeared in the
top corner of Glenn's notes.
650
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,700
A name we haven't had before.
651
00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:20,350
A name that could change everything.
652
00:39:20,650 --> 00:39:21,650
Tell me the name.
653
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:25,150
Ian Edmondson.
654
00:39:25,690 --> 00:39:29,750
Ian Edmondson? You reported directly to
Coulson? Ian Edmondson is the current
655
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:31,710
news editor of the News of the World.
656
00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:49,630
Silver. Miss Q Anne Edmondson, chief
reporter, former news editor, current
657
00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:50,710
editor. That is a culture.
658
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:52,910
A culture Coulson has created.
659
00:39:53,610 --> 00:39:54,890
We can't survive this.
660
00:40:01,590 --> 00:40:02,569
Just heard.
661
00:40:02,570 --> 00:40:03,570
Good work, Nick.
662
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:33,830
Sheridan? Oh, Nick, they couldn't get
through to you, so, well, I don't know
663
00:40:33,830 --> 00:40:34,830
how... Is it the kid?
664
00:40:35,090 --> 00:40:36,090
No, no, no.
665
00:40:37,930 --> 00:40:39,210
It's about your father.
666
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:41,910
God, I'm so sorry, Nick.
667
00:40:58,450 --> 00:40:59,450
Yeah, Graham.
668
00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:01,680
I found two crates in an old DPS office.
669
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,060
A cleaner found them.
670
00:41:04,740 --> 00:41:06,380
Sold evidence on James Ward.
671
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,180
But we told the judge we'd declared
everything on Lord.
672
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,840
I'm sorry.
673
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,680
How about that?
674
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,540
Now this is the end, right?
675
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:28,220
Do you want the official answer or the
honest answer?
676
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:30,770
We don't survive this.
677
00:41:33,810 --> 00:41:34,810
I don't understand.
678
00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:40,470
How can they accuse us of withholding
evidence when you didn't even know that
679
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:44,010
the crate... It was a disused police
building.
680
00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:45,910
Nothing to do with your team, right?
681
00:41:46,110 --> 00:41:47,110
Yeah.
682
00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:50,270
The office was locked for years. Nobody
knew anything about it.
683
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:58,010
But even if we could make the case that
we weren't withholding the files, the
684
00:41:58,010 --> 00:41:59,010
contents...
685
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:04,140
The details about James Ward, they
didn't originally disclose to us.
686
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:09,740
If we'd have had the files earlier, we
may have been able to deal with it, but
687
00:42:09,740 --> 00:42:16,700
all of it together, it's years and years
and years
688
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:17,700
gone.
689
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,860
All because someone left some files in
the wrong room.
690
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,820
It's like everyone forgot.
691
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:30,090
All the people in that court.
692
00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:33,830
This was supposed to be about Daniel.
693
00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:19,180
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not
want.
694
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,220
He makes me lie down in green pastures.
695
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,680
He leads me beside still waters.
696
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,040
He restores my soul.
697
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:30,800
He leads me in right paths for his
name's sake.
698
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:35,880
Even though I walk through the darkest
valley, I fear no evil.
699
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:40,700
For you are with me, your rod and your
staff, they comfort me.
700
00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:45,340
You prepare a table before me in the
presence of my enemies.
701
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,200
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow
me all the days of my life.
702
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:56,000
And I shall dwell in the house of the
Lord my whole life long.
703
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:17,730
On the 14th of January, 2011, Rebecca
Brooks asked her secretary to find
704
00:44:17,730 --> 00:44:20,530
somewhere discreet for her to meet Andy
Coulson.
705
00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:26,210
She did so the next day at 7 .45 a .m.
at the Halkin Hotel in Belgravia.
706
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:30,150
We don't know what Brooks said to
Coulson during that meeting, but we do
707
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:33,690
that on the 21st of January, Andy
Coulson resigned.
708
00:44:35,070 --> 00:44:40,010
He said, unfortunately, continued
coverage of events connected to my old
709
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:41,010
the news of the world.
710
00:44:41,310 --> 00:44:44,990
has made it difficult for me to give the
110 % needed in this role.
711
00:44:45,470 --> 00:44:50,630
I stand by what I said about those
events, but when a spokesman needs a
712
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:53,070
spokesman, it's time to move on.
713
00:44:53,370 --> 00:44:54,370
Thank you.
714
00:44:58,070 --> 00:44:58,510
This
715
00:44:58,510 --> 00:45:08,890
is
716
00:45:08,890 --> 00:45:09,890
the end.
717
00:45:10,090 --> 00:45:14,250
of a long, as I am sure everyone
associated with this case will agree,
718
00:45:14,490 --> 00:45:16,070
exhausting road.
719
00:45:16,510 --> 00:45:21,410
In all the years that I have been a
judge, I have never come across a case
720
00:45:21,410 --> 00:45:26,310
which there have been so many issues or
such complex issues to be resolved
721
00:45:26,310 --> 00:45:29,130
before a trial could even get underway.
722
00:45:29,550 --> 00:45:36,390
The family will inevitably be
disappointed by the outcome, but they, I
723
00:45:36,510 --> 00:45:38,050
should be commended.
724
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:42,560
on the dignity with which they have
faced these proceedings.
725
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:50,920
Mr. Reith, Mr. Fillory, Mr. Glenn Vian,
Mr. Gary Vian, please stand.
726
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,220
You are free to go.
727
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,940
Verdicts of not guilty have been entered
in all of your cases.
728
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,560
Thank you all.
729
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:12,720
Court rise.
730
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,520
Your dad?
731
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:21,720
Yep.
732
00:46:22,820 --> 00:46:24,300
He was a nice man.
733
00:46:24,580 --> 00:46:25,820
You didn't know him.
734
00:46:27,540 --> 00:46:29,220
You made him sound nice.
735
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,740
And to Andy Coulson.
736
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,380
May he disappear and never come back.
737
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,380
I may as well tell you we're reporting
it tomorrow.
738
00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:52,960
Murdoch's going for full control of B
-Sky B.
739
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,040
I did hear it was possible.
740
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:01,140
If he gets that, he'll be able to
leverage a serious amount of debt.
741
00:47:01,580 --> 00:47:03,300
By more, by bigger.
742
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,780
We're talking world domination.
743
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:09,110
Why are you telling me this?
744
00:47:11,530 --> 00:47:13,330
To remind you it's not over.
745
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:18,250
Remind me that they cut Coulson loose to
save him.
746
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:22,470
It's all a false victory.
747
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:23,870
Not false at all.
748
00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:28,010
Dissection is a slow process. We tackle
them.
749
00:47:29,550 --> 00:47:33,350
One limb at a time. And eventually they
run out of limbs.
750
00:47:34,410 --> 00:47:35,410
Do they?
751
00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:44,090
Agreed. We rest.
752
00:47:44,310 --> 00:47:47,790
We lick our wounds. We take stock. No, I
don't.
753
00:47:52,030 --> 00:47:55,770
I don't think so. I think on this story,
I think you need to find someone to
754
00:47:55,770 --> 00:47:56,770
take over.
755
00:47:57,710 --> 00:47:59,710
Sometimes you need to know when to stop.
756
00:48:04,050 --> 00:48:05,570
It's time to stop. I need to stop.
757
00:48:42,570 --> 00:48:45,810
And I thought a bit of fresh air might
be an order. No, I'm fine.
758
00:48:46,030 --> 00:48:47,030
Well, you're not.
759
00:48:48,110 --> 00:48:49,110
I'm all right.
760
00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:51,190
No, you're not, mate.
761
00:48:53,210 --> 00:48:54,350
There's someone I want you to meet.
762
00:48:55,590 --> 00:48:56,590
He helped me.
763
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:58,330
I think he can help you.
764
00:49:00,030 --> 00:49:02,270
Get showered, get dressed. I'm not
leaving until you do it.
765
00:49:05,210 --> 00:49:06,210
I'm serious.
766
00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:50,250
David Cook, Gordon Brown. Gordon Brown,
David Cook.
767
00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:54,410
I know a lot about you, DCS. I
appreciate you coming all this way.
768
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:56,430
No problem.
769
00:49:56,550 --> 00:50:01,270
I'm interested to hear more about what's
happened to you. I think I might be
770
00:50:01,270 --> 00:50:02,270
able to help.
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