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kill her this is the perfect

kill her this is the perfect
place yes I've got everything

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awesome that CAU by Denny right behind

awesome that CAU by Denny right behind

awesome that CAU by Denny right behind
us that did you see that yes oh my God

us that did you see that yes oh my God

us that did you see that yes oh my God
I'm just

I'm just

I'm just
about he's not

back do you feel like grunge is an empty

back do you feel like grunge is an empty
word I mean there's nothing to it yes

word I mean there's nothing to it yes

word I mean there's nothing to it yes
yeah it's an empty word nothing to it

nothing to it nothing to grunge nothing

nothing to it nothing to grunge nothing
to

to

to
grunge one might say that Tad was the

grunge one might say that Tad was the

grunge one might say that Tad was the
pioneer of this inventure of

pioneer of this inventure of

pioneer of this inventure of
this in some ways they're the

this in some ways they're the

this in some ways they're the
quintessential grunge

band there were the combination of

band there were the combination of
musical Ingenuity musical fluidity a

musical Ingenuity musical fluidity a

musical Ingenuity musical fluidity a
sense of humor a sense of style but I

sense of humor a sense of style but I

sense of humor a sense of style but I
mean they really were as charismatic a

mean they really were as charismatic a

mean they really were as charismatic a
band as any that were ever on

subpop like Tad the band they kind of

subpop like Tad the band they kind of
took on this character like there's Tad

took on this character like there's Tad

took on this character like there's Tad
the person and then there's t a d

the person and then there's t a d

the person and then there's t a d
capital letters

capital letters

capital letters
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Tad hello people my name is Gary and I

Tad hello people my name is Gary and I

Tad hello people my name is Gary and I
play washboard

play washboard

play washboard
my name is Kurt I play Bas t i play with

my name is Kurt I play Bas t i play with

my name is Kurt I play Bas t i play with
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myself all the musicians were really

myself all the musicians were really

myself all the musicians were really
skilled had quite sophisticated approach

skilled had quite sophisticated approach

skilled had quite sophisticated approach
to their instruments at one point they

to their instruments at one point they

to their instruments at one point they
were the favorite horse coming out of

were the favorite horse coming out of

were the favorite horse coming out of
Seattle without Tad to me there'd be

Seattle without Tad to me there'd be

Seattle without Tad to me there'd be
like a black hole or a gap it's like

like a black hole or a gap it's like

like a black hole or a gap it's like
well where was like that really intense

well where was like that really intense

well where was like that really intense
the raw of the raw they were the heav

the raw of the raw they were the heav

the raw of the raw they were the heav
and the meanest and the darkest sounding

and the meanest and the darkest sounding

and the meanest and the darkest sounding
band of the scene and I think that

band of the scene and I think that

band of the scene and I think that
influenced a lot of

people I think of the Tad band I think

people I think of the Tad band I think
of smoking pot smoke

pot like if their dressing room

pot like if their dressing room
wasn't a smoky

wasn't a smoky

wasn't a smoky
Haze I think the

bombs he's a real Miracle band a garage

bombs he's a real Miracle band a garage
band that never grew

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up it wasn't just because they were

up it wasn't just because they were

up it wasn't just because they were
weird looking it was also because they

weird looking it was also because they

weird looking it was also because they
were a good

were a good

were a good
band

band

band
shut

shut

shut
shut shut

shut shut

shut shut
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that's a cut there just take it back to

that's a cut there just take it back to
the

the

the
beginning

beginning

beginning
action uh it was late 88 early '89 um

action uh it was late 88 early '89 um

action uh it was late 88 early '89 um
and there was this this Regional sound

and there was this this Regional sound

and there was this this Regional sound
in the air and we we felt like we were

in the air and we we felt like we were

in the air and we we felt like we were
we were we were part of of of of the

we were we were part of of of of the

we were we were part of of of of the
select group of people that were allowed

select group of people that were allowed

select group of people that were allowed
to document it there wasn't a lot of you

to document it there wasn't a lot of you

to document it there wasn't a lot of you
know National acts coming through or

know National acts coming through or

know National acts coming through or
like a lot of good Indie acts coming

like a lot of good Indie acts coming

like a lot of good Indie acts coming
through as much as later years so it was

through as much as later years so it was

through as much as later years so it was
kind of like an isolated area where

kind of like an isolated area where

kind of like an isolated area where
these people were coming up with music

these people were coming up with music

these people were coming up with music
and uh they're mostly influencing each

and uh they're mostly influencing each

and uh they're mostly influencing each
other not being too self-conscious about

other not being too self-conscious about

other not being too self-conscious about
what they were doing that was the best

what they were doing that was the best

what they were doing that was the best
thing about it was bands wanted to just

thing about it was bands wanted to just

thing about it was bands wanted to just
they had a very clear artistic vision

they had a very clear artistic vision

they had a very clear artistic vision
and that's what they wanted to pursue it

and that's what they wanted to pursue it

and that's what they wanted to pursue it
wasn't like trying to think of what

wasn't like trying to think of what

wasn't like trying to think of what
would get them signed or what would get

would get them signed or what would get

would get them signed or what would get
them attention or what the fans would

them attention or what the fans would

them attention or what the fans would
like it was more about what you know

like it was more about what you know

like it was more about what you know
people were very much doing the music

people were very much doing the music

people were very much doing the music
that they wanted to be doing making the

that they wanted to be doing making the

that they wanted to be doing making the
records that they wanted to make

records that they wanted to make

records that they wanted to make
commercial considerations hadn't really

commercial considerations hadn't really

commercial considerations hadn't really
come into the picture yet there wasn't

come into the picture yet there wasn't

come into the picture yet there wasn't
any inkling of any kind of idea like I'm

any inkling of any kind of idea like I'm

any inkling of any kind of idea like I'm
going to get rich and famous from doing

going to get rich and famous from doing

going to get rich and famous from doing
this there was

this there was

this there was
no concept of it being a career it was

no concept of it being a career it was

no concept of it being a career it was
just like here and now in the moment

just like here and now in the moment

just like here and now in the moment
this is what we're doing I don't care if

this is what we're doing I don't care if

this is what we're doing I don't care if
it's going to fall apart tomorrow I

it's going to fall apart tomorrow I

it's going to fall apart tomorrow I
don't remember yesterday this is what

don't remember yesterday this is what

don't remember yesterday this is what
we're doing

we're doing

we're doing
now yeah it was great I I just remember

now yeah it was great I I just remember

now yeah it was great I I just remember
it being vibrant exciting and Incredibly

it being vibrant exciting and Incredibly

it being vibrant exciting and Incredibly
supportive and collaborative every all

supportive and collaborative every all

supportive and collaborative every all
these bands are checking out everyone

these bands are checking out everyone

these bands are checking out everyone
else's show and their tapes it didn't

else's show and their tapes it didn't

else's show and their tapes it didn't
seem like there were any kind of like

seem like there were any kind of like

seem like there were any kind of like
Petty rivalries or animosities people

Petty rivalries or animosities people

Petty rivalries or animosities people
would come together and and it was a a

would come together and and it was a a

would come together and and it was a a
positive

positive

positive
supportive situation scene that made

supportive situation scene that made

supportive situation scene that made
things a lot of

things a lot of

things a lot of
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fun all of a sudden you'd go to a you

fun all of a sudden you'd go to a you

fun all of a sudden you'd go to a you
know a tad show and there would

know a tad show and there would

know a tad show and there would
be hundreds of people there and hardly

be hundreds of people there and hardly

be hundreds of people there and hardly
anyone that I knew man the sense of

anyone that I knew man the sense of

anyone that I knew man the sense of
family

family

family
or at least like familiarity was

gone the whole grunge scene was really

gone the whole grunge scene was really
just an

just an

just an
extension of rock and roll hype that has

extension of rock and roll hype that has

extension of rock and roll hype that has
been going on since you know the colonel

been going on since you know the colonel

been going on since you know the colonel
and Elvis Presley and even before that

and Elvis Presley and even before that

and Elvis Presley and even before that
into one one word grunge it's like all

into one one word grunge it's like all

into one one word grunge it's like all
new wave bands sound alike or all rock

new wave bands sound alike or all rock

new wave bands sound alike or all rock
band sound alike and then uh one day the

band sound alike and then uh one day the

band sound alike and then uh one day the
devil came and said uh you know we'll

devil came and said uh you know we'll

devil came and said uh you know we'll
pay you guys more money and Play Satan

pay you guys more money and Play Satan

pay you guys more money and Play Satan
Rock so we began to play sat satanic

Rock so we began to play sat satanic

Rock so we began to play sat satanic
rock music and

rock music and

rock music and
uh uh you know it's something we do but

uh uh you know it's something we do but

uh uh you know it's something we do but
it's not like uh you we don't take it

it's not like uh you we don't take it

it's not like uh you we don't take it
home with us we just leave it at the

office yes you wanted the best and you

office yes you wanted the best and you
got it the hottest bed in the land

got it the hottest bed in the land

got it the hottest bed in the land
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hey it was this one word that that kind

hey it was this one word that that kind

hey it was this one word that that kind
of summed it all up and that's heavy

of summed it all up and that's heavy

of summed it all up and that's heavy
we're here to destroy your

we're here to destroy your

we're here to destroy your
hearing yeah Tad was the biggest thing I

hearing yeah Tad was the biggest thing I

hearing yeah Tad was the biggest thing I
ever heard in in in my life because you

ever heard in in in my life because you

ever heard in in in my life because you
know I'm I'm from fville Arkansas

know I'm I'm from fville Arkansas

know I'm I'm from fville Arkansas
originally you know when I you know

originally you know when I you know

originally you know when I you know
Black Sabbath Leonard skinnard and Black

Black Sabbath Leonard skinnard and Black

Black Sabbath Leonard skinnard and Black
Sabbath you know there was there was

Sabbath you know there was there was

Sabbath you know there was there was
nothing nothing you know remotely heavy

nothing nothing you know remotely heavy

nothing nothing you know remotely heavy
it was just always you know like Garage

it was just always you know like Garage

it was just always you know like Garage
Band Here Garage Band punk rock band

Band Here Garage Band punk rock band

Band Here Garage Band punk rock band
here punk rock band hardcore band none

here punk rock band hardcore band none

here punk rock band hardcore band none
of it was even close to the first time

of it was even close to the first time

of it was even close to the first time
that I actually got to see those guys

that I actually got to see those guys

that I actually got to see those guys
play Behemoth that was like the I was

play Behemoth that was like the I was

play Behemoth that was like the I was
like well you know clearly this is what

like well you know clearly this is what

like well you know clearly this is what
you want to be hearing and I and I was

you want to be hearing and I and I was

you want to be hearing and I and I was
convinced that Tad was the best band out

convinced that Tad was the best band out

convinced that Tad was the best band out
of all the bands I was getting to see at

of all the bands I was getting to see at

of all the bands I was getting to see at
the off round Tad was just pretty much

the off round Tad was just pretty much

the off round Tad was just pretty much
balls the wall kind of angst

I remember seeing Tad at a show at one

I remember seeing Tad at a show at one
of the clubs in Piner square and the

of the clubs in Piner square and the

of the clubs in Piner square and the
sound was literally so heavy that I I

sound was literally so heavy that I I

sound was literally so heavy that I I
felt like I was having a heart attack or

felt like I was having a heart attack or

felt like I was having a heart attack or
something um because I it it it you know

something um because I it it it you know

something um because I it it it you know
made your chest cavity actually be T is

made your chest cavity actually be T is

made your chest cavity actually be T is
so loud and just so heavy we would play

so loud and just so heavy we would play

so loud and just so heavy we would play
so loud that I would like almost pass

so loud that I would like almost pass

so loud that I would like almost pass
out

out

out
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you see a guy that big moving around

you see a guy that big moving around
that much and there's skinny ass little

that much and there's skinny ass little

that much and there's skinny ass little
18-year-olds that cannot rock that hard

18-year-olds that cannot rock that hard

18-year-olds that cannot rock that hard
not only that but you put in between it

not only that but you put in between it

not only that but you put in between it
the onstage banter I mean the guy is

the onstage banter I mean the guy is

the onstage banter I mean the guy is
quick you know so it's like almost

quick you know so it's like almost

quick you know so it's like almost
seeing you get badass Rock and standup

seeing you get badass Rock and standup

seeing you get badass Rock and standup
comedy allinone I extremely fat and

comedy allinone I extremely fat and

comedy allinone I extremely fat and
overweight and you're not I'm pissed off

overweight and you're not I'm pissed off

overweight and you're not I'm pissed off
godamn

godamn

godamn
it hey I'm told you're supposed to take

it hey I'm told you're supposed to take

it hey I'm told you're supposed to take
care of my microphone needs

care of my microphone needs

care of my microphone needs
tonight they're all

tonight they're all

tonight they're all
up but I mean it really I do you guys

up but I mean it really I do you guys

up but I mean it really I do you guys
don't know me I really mean you all

don't know me I really mean you all

don't know me I really mean you all
of you you

you know you had kurtt Danielson who

you know you had kurtt Danielson who
like would headbang through the entire

like would headbang through the entire

like would headbang through the entire
set to see somebody who would do that

set to see somebody who would do that

set to see somebody who would do that
with such intensity I mean you kind of

with such intensity I mean you kind of

with such intensity I mean you kind of
thought that he was he may be having

thought that he was he may be having

thought that he was he may be having
some kind of seizure Tad was this big

some kind of seizure Tad was this big

some kind of seizure Tad was this big
guy dwarfing his guitar and have this

guy dwarfing his guitar and have this

guy dwarfing his guitar and have this
huge guy jumping out and into a crowd

huge guy jumping out and into a crowd

huge guy jumping out and into a crowd
and the crowd like mill the show he uh

and the crowd like mill the show he uh

and the crowd like mill the show he uh
he stage dived and crushed a few people

it was uh something that people are

it was uh something that people are
probably telling their children at this

probably telling their children at this

probably telling their children at this
moment and the legend will be passed on

moment and the legend will be passed on

moment and the legend will be passed on
to their children and so forth well I

to their children and so forth well I

to their children and so forth well I
just remember once in Portland when tad

just remember once in Portland when tad

just remember once in Portland when tad
just ran backwards and he ran

just ran backwards and he ran

just ran backwards and he ran
into his guitar stack all thing just

into his guitar stack all thing just

into his guitar stack all thing just
went

went

went
flying and he went kind of flying too

flying and he went kind of flying too

flying and he went kind of flying too
and that just freaked me out man and

and that just freaked me out man and

and that just freaked me out man and
just to see Tad like wailing around and

just to see Tad like wailing around and

just to see Tad like wailing around and
his guitar is like un you know like not

his guitar is like un you know like not

his guitar is like un you know like not
strapped and he's still will to jump in

strapped and he's still will to jump in

strapped and he's still will to jump in
the crowd or something if you listen to

the crowd or something if you listen to

the crowd or something if you listen to
Tad and you didn't have a visual image

Tad and you didn't have a visual image

Tad and you didn't have a visual image
for them you would think these are you

for them you would think these are you

for them you would think these are you
know this is the Seattle version of

know this is the Seattle version of

know this is the Seattle version of
Sonic Youth in some ways these are

Sonic Youth in some ways these are

Sonic Youth in some ways these are
sophisticated hipsters creating this

sophisticated hipsters creating this

sophisticated hipsters creating this
very deep and sophisticated sound it was

very deep and sophisticated sound it was

very deep and sophisticated sound it was
like well this is great and this what

like well this is great and this what

like well this is great and this what
Tad's doing this is great it's like he's

Tad's doing this is great it's like he's

Tad's doing this is great it's like he's
totally you know like pushing envelope

totally you know like pushing envelope

totally you know like pushing envelope
this is you know about as anti- Radio

this is you know about as anti- Radio

this is you know about as anti- Radio
Rock as you're going to get which it was

Rock as you're going to get which it was

Rock as you're going to get which it was
like was cool cuz that's where we're all

like was cool cuz that's where we're all

like was cool cuz that's where we're all
like oh this is you know I want to be

like oh this is you know I want to be

like oh this is you know I want to be
anti- Radio Rock I want to do this

anti- Radio Rock I want to do this

anti- Radio Rock I want to do this
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stuff I had uh gotten a tax return from

stuff I had uh gotten a tax return from
uh

uh

uh
1986 I took my whole tax return in I

1986 I took my whole tax return in I

1986 I took my whole tax return in I
come from being a drummer in a band that

come from being a drummer in a band that

come from being a drummer in a band that
was my main

was my main

was my main
instrument and I I bought a guitar and

instrument and I I bought a guitar and

instrument and I I bought a guitar and
wanted to play guitar and I had this

wanted to play guitar and I had this

wanted to play guitar and I had this
little champ amp which is right there um

little champ amp which is right there um

little champ amp which is right there um
and I played that and came up with these

and I played that and came up with these

and I played that and came up with these
ideas and uh and I I just wanted to try

ideas and uh and I I just wanted to try

ideas and uh and I I just wanted to try
it out and see how it would sound and

it out and see how it would sound and

it out and see how it would sound and
went into a a studio called reciprocal

went into a a studio called reciprocal

went into a a studio called reciprocal
with uh Jack and Dino there was no click

with uh Jack and Dino there was no click

with uh Jack and Dino there was no click
tracks he did the drum track and then he

tracks he did the drum track and then he

tracks he did the drum track and then he
came in and overdubbed the guitar car

came in and overdubbed the guitar car

came in and overdubbed the guitar car
overdubbed some bass and then did the

overdubbed some bass and then did the

overdubbed some bass and then did the
vocals and that became his first 7 in on

vocals and that became his first 7 in on

vocals and that became his first 7 in on
the subpop

the subpop

the subpop
label some food I got to move some got

label some food I got to move some got

label some food I got to move some got
to chame the Beast I got to chame the

to chame the Beast I got to chame the

to chame the Beast I got to chame the
Beast got to rock in my hand I remember

Beast got to rock in my hand I remember

Beast got to rock in my hand I remember
taking it to work that the next day a

taking it to work that the next day a

taking it to work that the next day a
cassette of it I worked with Tad uh at

cassette of it I worked with Tad uh at

cassette of it I worked with Tad uh at
musac at ' 87 until the spring of ' 88 I

musac at ' 87 until the spring of ' 88 I

musac at ' 87 until the spring of ' 88 I
was working in the cartridge cleaning

was working in the cartridge cleaning

was working in the cartridge cleaning
room that's my first job there and I was

room that's my first job there and I was

room that's my first job there and I was
working with Mark arm it was a totally

working with Mark arm it was a totally

working with Mark arm it was a totally
loud room and we'd be cranking like you

loud room and we'd be cranking like you

loud room and we'd be cranking like you
know the Butthole Surfers or scratch

know the Butthole Surfers or scratch

know the Butthole Surfers or scratch
acid or the first dinosaur record you

acid or the first dinosaur record you

acid or the first dinosaur record you
know and I remember one day like pad

know and I remember one day like pad

know and I remember one day like pad
came in with this these songs that he'

came in with this these songs that he'

came in with this these songs that he'
recorded Bruce pavic came in and he had

recorded Bruce pavic came in and he had

recorded Bruce pavic came in and he had
this crazy look on his face like you

this crazy look on his face like you

this crazy look on his face like you
know what's this you know and then he

know what's this you know and then he

know what's this you know and then he
like walked out of the room like his

like walked out of the room like his

like walked out of the room like his
mind was blown and then he came back a

mind was blown and then he came back a

mind was blown and then he came back a
little later he said we start talking

little later he said we start talking

little later he said we start talking
about you I said man maybe uh we could

about you I said man maybe uh we could

about you I said man maybe uh we could
put something out and he goes yeah I'd

put something out and he goes yeah I'd

put something out and he goes yeah I'd
love to put it out a single Bruce was

love to put it out a single Bruce was

love to put it out a single Bruce was
Bor away and he played it for

me I thought it was amazing and

me I thought it was amazing and
here's the one interesting thing every

here's the one interesting thing every

here's the one interesting thing every
band had established itself as a as Al

band had established itself as a as Al

band had established itself as a as Al
live a per Performing artist in many

live a per Performing artist in many

live a per Performing artist in many
cases years before they recorded Tad was

cases years before they recorded Tad was

cases years before they recorded Tad was
a recording artist years before there

a recording artist years before there

a recording artist years before there
was a band Tad there was the guy Tad the

was a band Tad there was the guy Tad the

was a band Tad there was the guy Tad the
response to that single was so good that

response to that single was so good that

response to that single was so good that
he said well you know maybe I should

he said well you know maybe I should

he said well you know maybe I should
actually get another drummer and get a

actually get another drummer and get a

actually get another drummer and get a
bass player and get a guitarist and and

bass player and get a guitarist and and

bass player and get a guitarist and and
have a band

told me that he was uh recording a

told me that he was uh recording a
single uh with Jack and Dino uh at

single uh with Jack and Dino uh at

single uh with Jack and Dino uh at
reciprocal and uh did I want to come

reciprocal and uh did I want to come

reciprocal and uh did I want to come
down and check out what he was working

down and check out what he was working

down and check out what he was working
on and I was like yeah yeah I was like

on and I was like yeah yeah I was like

on and I was like yeah yeah I was like
really Blown Away with what Tad was

really Blown Away with what Tad was

really Blown Away with what Tad was
doing all by himself I mean he was

doing all by himself I mean he was

doing all by himself I mean he was
playing all the instruments writing all

playing all the instruments writing all

playing all the instruments writing all
the stuff and it was really impressive

the stuff and it was really impressive

the stuff and it was really impressive
the band I was in bundle of His used to

the band I was in bundle of His used to

the band I was in bundle of His used to
play gigs with with h hour which is a

play gigs with with h hour which is a

play gigs with with h hour which is a
band that Tad used to play drums for and

band that Tad used to play drums for and

band that Tad used to play drums for and
uh that's when Tad and I met I didn't

uh that's when Tad and I met I didn't

uh that's when Tad and I met I didn't
realize it at the time but but Tad was

realize it at the time but but Tad was

realize it at the time but but Tad was
planning on switching to guitar and

planning on switching to guitar and

planning on switching to guitar and
quitting the drums and H hour broke up

quitting the drums and H hour broke up

quitting the drums and H hour broke up
uh over that issue and others perhaps

uh over that issue and others perhaps

uh over that issue and others perhaps
Kurt and I got along really well and we

Kurt and I got along really well and we

Kurt and I got along really well and we
shared similar humor and uh so that's

shared similar humor and uh so that's

shared similar humor and uh so that's
kind of how it started there and I I had

kind of how it started there and I I had

kind of how it started there and I I had
always been a fan of a drummer who was

always been a fan of a drummer who was

always been a fan of a drummer who was
playing a band called death and taxes at

playing a band called death and taxes at

playing a band called death and taxes at
the time and that wound up being Steve

the time and that wound up being Steve

the time and that wound up being Steve
weed our keyboard had just moved to

weed our keyboard had just moved to

weed our keyboard had just moved to
Califor

Califor

Califor
and uh we were like wow what do we do

and uh we were like wow what do we do

and uh we were like wow what do we do
now so Tad you know he talked to sub pop

now so Tad you know he talked to sub pop

now so Tad you know he talked to sub pop
and he got to single out and stuff so I

and he got to single out and stuff so I

and he got to single out and stuff so I
was like okay that sounds cool let's do

was like okay that sounds cool let's do

was like okay that sounds cool let's do
it you know so and uh Kurt knew about a

it you know so and uh Kurt knew about a

it you know so and uh Kurt knew about a
guy that was playing guitar Gary had

guy that was playing guitar Gary had

guy that was playing guitar Gary had
been uh in a band with Jonathan paman

been uh in a band with Jonathan paman

been uh in a band with Jonathan paman
and so I called up John and I I had seen

and so I called up John and I I had seen

and so I called up John and I I had seen
Gary play with John before in in a band

Gary play with John before in in a band

Gary play with John before in in a band
they had a band together called the tree

they had a band together called the tree

they had a band together called the tree
climbers and I was just blown away by

climbers and I was just blown away by

climbers and I was just blown away by
his guitar playing

his guitar playing

his guitar playing
so we asked Gary to come in and I said

so we asked Gary to come in and I said

so we asked Gary to come in and I said
well why don't we just get these two

well why don't we just get these two

well why don't we just get these two
guys together and we'll start seeing how

guys together and we'll start seeing how

guys together and we'll start seeing how
it works and uh that's what became the

it works and uh that's what became the

it works and uh that's what became the
first incarnation of Tad when the band

first incarnation of Tad when the band

first incarnation of Tad when the band
got together for example we encouraged

got together for example we encouraged

got together for example we encouraged
them just to call the band Tad versus

them just to call the band Tad versus

them just to call the band Tad versus
any other name because uh Tad had such

any other name because uh Tad had such

any other name because uh Tad had such
uh pronounced personality and such a

uh pronounced personality and such a

uh pronounced personality and such a
presence that we we felt that the media

presence that we we felt that the media

presence that we we felt that the media
would warm up to T

would warm up to T

would warm up to T
how do you feel about what happened to

how do you feel about what happened to

how do you feel about what happened to
Seattle what happened to it a hype Oh I

Seattle what happened to it a hype Oh I

Seattle what happened to it a hype Oh I
thought you me blew up or something

thought you me blew up or something

thought you me blew up or something
earthquake oh my God uh the hype well it

earthquake oh my God uh the hype well it

earthquake oh my God uh the hype well it
it's just that nothing but hype Seattle

it's just that nothing but hype Seattle

it's just that nothing but hype Seattle
was was a nice friendly little college

was was a nice friendly little college

was was a nice friendly little college
town uh you know a maritime City a port

town uh you know a maritime City a port

town uh you know a maritime City a port
city right on the water very nice rains

city right on the water very nice rains

city right on the water very nice rains
a little bit too much but uh there a few

a little bit too much but uh there a few

a little bit too much but uh there a few
rock bands uh just like in any other

rock bands uh just like in any other

rock bands uh just like in any other
City but then there was a record label

subpop Bruce and I went into business on

subpop Bruce and I went into business on
a full-time basis over at 1932 1 Avenue

a full-time basis over at 1932 1 Avenue

a full-time basis over at 1932 1 Avenue
which is where our first office was on

which is where our first office was on

which is where our first office was on
April 1st 1988 April Fool's Day so we've

April 1st 1988 April Fool's Day so we've

April 1st 1988 April Fool's Day so we've
always used that as being kind of the

always used that as being kind of the

always used that as being kind of the
beginning of the company we felt there

beginning of the company we felt there

beginning of the company we felt there
was a certain Vibe going on in the city

was a certain Vibe going on in the city

was a certain Vibe going on in the city
all these groups were playing a kind of

all these groups were playing a kind of

all these groups were playing a kind of
a

a

a
sludger grung he Punk metal sound uh

sludger grung he Punk metal sound uh

sludger grung he Punk metal sound uh
that was super

that was super

that was super
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powerful she come to

powerful she come to
house so as a label we were trying to

house so as a label we were trying to

house so as a label we were trying to
capture the essence of that scene we

capture the essence of that scene we

capture the essence of that scene we
weren't sure how long that sound was

weren't sure how long that sound was

weren't sure how long that sound was
going to last or where it was going to

going to last or where it was going to

going to last or where it was going to
go but we wanted to document it because

go but we wanted to document it because

go but we wanted to document it because
we thought there was there was a

we thought there was there was a

we thought there was there was a
definite scene there in the sound

they knew what they wanted they had a

they knew what they wanted they had a
concept for the label both

concept for the label both

concept for the label both
visually uh in terms of live photographs

visually uh in terms of live photographs

visually uh in terms of live photographs
and graphics and sonically with with

and graphics and sonically with with

and graphics and sonically with with
with a kind of regional sound they they

with a kind of regional sound they they

with a kind of regional sound they they
felt it and saw it developing as well

felt it and saw it developing as well

felt it and saw it developing as well
and they wanted to document it and it

and they wanted to document it and it

and they wanted to document it and it
was like recognizing a chemical reaction

was like recognizing a chemical reaction

was like recognizing a chemical reaction
occurring keep in mind these are two

occurring keep in mind these are two

occurring keep in mind these are two
guys that you know went to a community

guys that you know went to a community

guys that you know went to a community
colleges and one of them you know his

colleges and one of them you know his

colleges and one of them you know his
degree was basically smoking pot and

degree was basically smoking pot and

degree was basically smoking pot and
spinning records you know all of a

spinning records you know all of a

spinning records you know all of a
sudden their passion and their what

sudden their passion and their what

sudden their passion and their what
where their heart lies is becoming a

where their heart lies is becoming a

where their heart lies is becoming a
business

business

business
in our own modest way we were trying to

in our own modest way we were trying to

in our own modest way we were trying to
recreate something that that would

recreate something that that would

recreate something that that would
stimulate people's imagination because

stimulate people's imagination because

stimulate people's imagination because
there are hundreds of thousands of bands

there are hundreds of thousands of bands

there are hundreds of thousands of bands
out there and there always are millions

out there and there always are millions

out there and there always are millions
of bands and the way that you're going

of bands and the way that you're going

of bands and the way that you're going
to make a distinction is by of course

to make a distinction is by of course

to make a distinction is by of course
first and foremost making music that

first and foremost making music that

first and foremost making music that
people care about but they also want to

people care about but they also want to

people care about but they also want to
care about the people who are making the

care about the people who are making the

care about the people who are making the
music and that you know you create a a a

music and that you know you create a a a

music and that you know you create a a a
mythology if you just say hey you know

mythology if you just say hey you know

mythology if you just say hey you know
we're a rock band from Seattle and we

we're a rock band from Seattle and we

we're a rock band from Seattle and we
practice a lot in our garage and we have

practice a lot in our garage and we have

practice a lot in our garage and we have
you know we work at Kinkos and you know

you know we work at Kinkos and you know

you know we work at Kinkos and you know
we hate our day jobs and we want to be

we hate our day jobs and we want to be

we hate our day jobs and we want to be
rock stars it's

rock stars it's

rock stars it's
like you know that man you know you

like you know that man you know you

like you know that man you know you
and everybody else you know but you want

and everybody else you know but you want

and everybody else you know but you want
to like create this whole sense that you

to like create this whole sense that you

to like create this whole sense that you
know this is we're an invading horde and

know this is we're an invading horde and

know this is we're an invading horde and
you know we live on mountains and we eat

you know we live on mountains and we eat

you know we live on mountains and we eat
raw flesh and we going to come and rape

raw flesh and we going to come and rape

raw flesh and we going to come and rape
your

your

your
children they played the roll to a

children they played the roll to a

children they played the roll to a
te we're from Seattle

te we're from Seattle

te we're from Seattle
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Washington we we play rock and roll punk

Washington we we play rock and roll punk

Washington we we play rock and roll punk
rock rock and roll don't be shy don't

rock rock and roll don't be shy don't

rock rock and roll don't be shy don't
piss me off and whatever you do stand

piss me off and whatever you do stand

piss me off and whatever you do stand
back because we're going to blow your

back because we're going to blow your

back because we're going to blow your
nuts off if you got any

nuts off if you got any

nuts off if you got any
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not only did you have an incredibly

not only did you have an incredibly

not only did you have an incredibly
heavy sound but Tad was kind of an icon

heavy sound but Tad was kind of an icon

heavy sound but Tad was kind of an icon
of heaviness and uh visually lent uh

of heaviness and uh visually lent uh

of heaviness and uh visually lent uh
another level of intensity to the

another level of intensity to the

another level of intensity to the
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music just this giant dude with a full

music just this giant dude with a full

music just this giant dude with a full
beard reflecto Shades some kind of crazy

beard reflecto Shades some kind of crazy

beard reflecto Shades some kind of crazy
trucker hat an ed Gan t-shirt and he

trucker hat an ed Gan t-shirt and he

trucker hat an ed Gan t-shirt and he
looked like somebody you know he looked

looked like somebody you know he looked

looked like somebody you know he looked
like like a he looked like a trucker or

like like a he looked like a trucker or

like like a he looked like a trucker or
like some kind of scary serial killer

like some kind of scary serial killer

like some kind of scary serial killer
and you know Kurt Danielson looked

and you know Kurt Danielson looked

and you know Kurt Danielson looked
exactly the same you know like Ju Just

exactly the same you know like Ju Just

exactly the same you know like Ju Just
as scary he looked like some kind of

as scary he looked like some kind of

as scary he looked like some kind of
crazy redneck Lumberjack or something

crazy redneck Lumberjack or something

crazy redneck Lumberjack or something
and they just looked dangerous and there

and they just looked dangerous and there

and they just looked dangerous and there
was nothing cute about them they were

was nothing cute about them they were

was nothing cute about them they were
really really scary looking band I hope

really really scary looking band I hope

really really scary looking band I hope
I didn't offend any of your college YY

I didn't offend any of your college YY

I didn't offend any of your college YY
types and Kan your mother says your turn

types and Kan your mother says your turn

types and Kan your mother says your turn
up turns into a casserole at midnight

up turns into a casserole at midnight

up turns into a casserole at midnight
your turns into a pumpkin at

your turns into a pumpkin at

your turns into a pumpkin at
one and you better not go home with Bill

one and you better not go home with Bill

one and you better not go home with Bill
I'm going to spank

I'm going to spank

I'm going to spank
your in reality you know he was so

your in reality you know he was so

your in reality you know he was so
different from the character that was

different from the character that was

different from the character that was
being concocted I mean I I I remember

being concocted I mean I I I remember

being concocted I mean I I I remember
going out uh taking some pictures on the

going out uh taking some pictures on the

going out uh taking some pictures on the
set of their wood goblins

set of their wood goblins

set of their wood goblins
video and I had to show Tad how to like

video and I had to show Tad how to like

video and I had to show Tad how to like
you know start up the chainsaw we all

you know start up the chainsaw we all

you know start up the chainsaw we all
knew that that's not really Tad who Tad

knew that that's not really Tad who Tad

knew that that's not really Tad who Tad
is but of course you know the label and

is but of course you know the label and

is but of course you know the label and
the band to a degree you know wanted to

the band to a degree you know wanted to

the band to a degree you know wanted to
play that

play that

play that
up I think the guys in subpop thought

up I think the guys in subpop thought

up I think the guys in subpop thought
this was cute it pissed me off and all

this was cute it pissed me off and all

this was cute it pissed me off and all
the interviews we did for that year or

the interviews we did for that year or

the interviews we did for that year or
afterwards I would always make a point

afterwards I would always make a point

afterwards I would always make a point
the band sound guard make a point of

the band sound guard make a point of

the band sound guard make a point of
saying this guy is like brilliant and

saying this guy is like brilliant and

saying this guy is like brilliant and
he's like smart as hell and the whole

he's like smart as hell and the whole

he's like smart as hell and the whole
band is smart as hell but the

band is smart as hell but the

band is smart as hell but the
initial Mark I think the initial

initial Mark I think the initial

initial Mark I think the initial
single had like on the label Tad

single had like on the label Tad

single had like on the label Tad
scrawling you know like backward letters

scrawling you know like backward letters

scrawling you know like backward letters
Hi my name is Tad trying to Market this

Hi my name is Tad trying to Market this

Hi my name is Tad trying to Market this
sort of uh you know folky Savant sort of

sort of uh you know folky Savant sort of

sort of uh you know folky Savant sort of
character you know kind of huge

character you know kind of huge

character you know kind of huge
monster of a man who somehow makes his

monster of a man who somehow makes his

monster of a man who somehow makes his
beautiful music people give too much

beautiful music people give too much

beautiful music people give too much
emphasis on the personal story which is

emphasis on the personal story which is

emphasis on the personal story which is
important with folk artists and and in

important with folk artists and and in

important with folk artists and and in
popular culture But ultimately you know

popular culture But ultimately you know

popular culture But ultimately you know
who does the work stand on its own is it

who does the work stand on its own is it

who does the work stand on its own is it
beautiful we definitely wanted to be

beautiful we definitely wanted to be

beautiful we definitely wanted to be
exploited there was no question about it

exploited there was no question about it

exploited there was no question about it
um and there we didn't have many

um and there we didn't have many

um and there we didn't have many
Scruples about how it was done uh so

Scruples about how it was done uh so

Scruples about how it was done uh so
long as it succeeded later perhaps we

long as it succeeded later perhaps we

long as it succeeded later perhaps we
had some regrets that that we were boxed

had some regrets that that we were boxed

had some regrets that that we were boxed
into this this grunge category and not

into this this grunge category and not

into this this grunge category and not
only that that we're always being

only that that we're always being

only that that we're always being
referred do as this band that was headed

referred do as this band that was headed

referred do as this band that was headed
by a 300 lb ex butcher etc etc etc and

by a 300 lb ex butcher etc etc etc and

by a 300 lb ex butcher etc etc etc and
we felt like uh that people came to see

we felt like uh that people came to see

we felt like uh that people came to see
us for those reasons instead of the fact

us for those reasons instead of the fact

us for those reasons instead of the fact
that we had songs that were worth

that we had songs that were worth

that we had songs that were worth
listening to I think a lot of the Bands

listening to I think a lot of the Bands

listening to I think a lot of the Bands
you know Nirvana and to a lesser degree

you know Nirvana and to a lesser degree

you know Nirvana and to a lesser degree
Tad sort of resented it just hype you

Tad sort of resented it just hype you

Tad sort of resented it just hype you
know and that hype I I've got to say

know and that hype I I've got to say

know and that hype I I've got to say
helped Propel all of the Bands I don't

helped Propel all of the Bands I don't

helped Propel all of the Bands I don't
it's by no means

it's by no means

it's by no means
solely responsible I think as the years

solely responsible I think as the years

solely responsible I think as the years
went by he came to

went by he came to

went by he came to
appreciate you know that there's a

appreciate you know that there's a

appreciate you know that there's a
certain

certain

certain
Artistry in in the

Artistry in in the

Artistry in in the
creation of the mythology this is hate

creation of the mythology this is hate

creation of the mythology this is hate
number 17 is where he appeared and um at

number 17 is where he appeared and um at

number 17 is where he appeared and um at
the time the TV show The Simpsons

the time the TV show The Simpsons

the time the TV show The Simpsons
started having a lot of celebrity guest

started having a lot of celebrity guest

started having a lot of celebrity guest
stars so I thought it'd be funny since I

stars so I thought it'd be funny since I

stars so I thought it'd be funny since I
just did this lowly cruddy comic book to

just did this lowly cruddy comic book to

just did this lowly cruddy comic book to
do the same to have a celebrity gu star

do the same to have a celebrity gu star

do the same to have a celebrity gu star
so I I um wrote Tad into this one story

so I I um wrote Tad into this one story

so I I um wrote Tad into this one story
and uh the idea behind it was um the

and uh the idea behind it was um the

and uh the idea behind it was um the
main character in the comic uh in in in

main character in the comic uh in in in

main character in the comic uh in in in
hey buddy Bradley he had this friend

hey buddy Bradley he had this friend

hey buddy Bradley he had this friend
named stinky and stinky is the type of

named stinky and stinky is the type of

named stinky and stinky is the type of
guy that even though the average person

guy that even though the average person

guy that even though the average person
never heard of Ted you know to stinky

never heard of Ted you know to stinky

never heard of Ted you know to stinky
that would be like meeting a God you

that would be like meeting a God you

that would be like meeting a God you
know it's like oh my God it's it's Tad I

know it's like oh my God it's it's Tad I

know it's like oh my God it's it's Tad I
can't believe it and the other thing

can't believe it and the other thing

can't believe it and the other thing
that was very funny is because Tad had

that was very funny is because Tad had

that was very funny is because Tad had
used to have this reputation of being a

used to have this reputation of being a

used to have this reputation of being a
wild guy or a party animal a lot of

wild guy or a party animal a lot of

wild guy or a party animal a lot of
people like younger people would always

people like younger people would always

people like younger people would always
say I want to party with Tad that'd be a

say I want to party with Tad that'd be a

say I want to party with Tad that'd be a
phrase that I used to hear a lot or like

phrase that I used to hear a lot or like

phrase that I used to hear a lot or like
people would always ask me did you party

people would always ask me did you party

people would always ask me did you party
with Tad I hear it's awesome to party

with Tad I hear it's awesome to party

with Tad I hear it's awesome to party
with Tad I want to party with Tad and so

with Tad I want to party with Tad and so

with Tad I want to party with Tad and so
I thought it'd be funny to have this

I thought it'd be funny to have this

I thought it'd be funny to have this
character stinky meet him and say we're

character stinky meet him and say we're

character stinky meet him and say we're
going to party with

going to party with

going to party with
Dad so that's how that came about and of

Dad so that's how that came about and of

Dad so that's how that came about and of
course as soon as the comic came out uh

course as soon as the comic came out uh

course as soon as the comic came out uh
more people than not said who the hell

more people than not said who the hell

more people than not said who the hell
is Dad

Tad and it's totally

Tad and it's totally
heavy Tad available at awesome record

heavy Tad available at awesome record

heavy Tad available at awesome record
stores near you on subpop the uh first

stores near you on subpop the uh first

stores near you on subpop the uh first
official Tad release on

official Tad release on

official Tad release on
subpop

subpop

subpop
was the uh

balls and we thought it was you know

balls and we thought it was you know
cocky enough too and you know somewhat

shocking the band really had like a

shocking the band really had like a
great sense of humor I remember um Ted

great sense of humor I remember um Ted

great sense of humor I remember um Ted
coming in going this is the heaviest

coming in going this is the heaviest

coming in going this is the heaviest
album title we could come up with was

album title we could come up with was

album title we could come up with was
God's balls was just Kurt Danielson had

God's balls was just Kurt Danielson had

God's balls was just Kurt Danielson had
a porno video that he saw and it was uh

a porno video that he saw and it was uh

a porno video that he saw and it was uh
some priest getting a from a nun

some priest getting a from a nun

some priest getting a from a nun
he would scream God's balls God's balls

he would scream God's balls God's balls

he would scream God's balls God's balls
that feels good God's balls that feels

that feels good God's balls that feels

that feels good God's balls that feels
good I thought God that's a great line

good I thought God that's a great line

good I thought God that's a great line
and uh so I kept it in mind and when we

and uh so I kept it in mind and when we

and uh so I kept it in mind and when we
were in the studio recording I I just

were in the studio recording I I just

were in the studio recording I I just
mentioned it to to indino I said that's

mentioned it to to indino I said that's

mentioned it to to indino I said that's
the title you have to use that title

the title you have to use that title

the title you have to use that title
we'd make jokes about that and we always

we'd make jokes about that and we always

we'd make jokes about that and we always
were making jokes about porno movies

were making jokes about porno movies

were making jokes about porno movies
so that's where the title came from no

so that's where the title came from no

so that's where the title came from no
know that the sgm really liked it that

know that the sgm really liked it that

know that the sgm really liked it that
was

was

was
a Seattle gay newspaper they really

a Seattle gay newspaper they really

a Seattle gay newspaper they really
liked

liked

liked
it

it

it
my S

don't you

don't you
will

will

will
my I believe that John was was there uh

my I believe that John was was there uh

my I believe that John was was there uh
for this particular session and I

for this particular session and I

for this particular session and I
remember seeing him in the control room

remember seeing him in the control room

remember seeing him in the control room
banging his

banging his

banging his
head so I was really pleased to see a

head so I was really pleased to see a

head so I was really pleased to see a
friend getting into the music Kurt had

friend getting into the music Kurt had

friend getting into the music Kurt had
really good

really good

really good
lyrics and we had good ideas that we

lyrics and we had good ideas that we

lyrics and we had good ideas that we
just like we wanted to hammer uh just a

just like we wanted to hammer uh just a

just like we wanted to hammer uh just a
riff you know and uh have a have a

riff you know and uh have a have a

riff you know and uh have a have a
Groove to it too that was our main thing

Groove to it too that was our main thing

Groove to it too that was our main thing
I think that's really what set us apart

I think that's really what set us apart

I think that's really what set us apart
from a lot of bands the rest of the

from a lot of bands the rest of the

from a lot of bands the rest of the
subpop crowd was was all about the

subpop crowd was was all about the

subpop crowd was was all about the
keep it simple keep it basic keep it

keep it simple keep it basic keep it

keep it simple keep it basic keep it
rocking sort of thing and Tad's thing

rocking sort of thing and Tad's thing

rocking sort of thing and Tad's thing
was always to try and go a little

was always to try and go a little

was always to try and go a little
further you know let's play around with

further you know let's play around with

further you know let's play around with
Melody experiment with arrangements and

Melody experiment with arrangements and

Melody experiment with arrangements and
still keep it brutal Kurt and I when we

still keep it brutal Kurt and I when we

still keep it brutal Kurt and I when we
started playing together we decided that

started playing together we decided that

started playing together we decided that
we wanted to we want to be as low and

we wanted to we want to be as low and

we wanted to we want to be as low and
and and nasty we were going for the

and and nasty we were going for the

and and nasty we were going for the
brown note you know and we used to make

brown note you know and we used to make

brown note you know and we used to make
jokes about that you know like what

jokes about that you know like what

jokes about that you know like what
happened to your concer last night well

happened to your concer last night well

happened to your concer last night well
three people their pants and here

three people their pants and here

three people their pants and here
we were uh working working together as a

we were uh working working together as a

we were uh working working together as a
band uh after meeting only two weeks

band uh after meeting only two weeks

band uh after meeting only two weeks
before and having only practiced a few

before and having only practiced a few

before and having only practiced a few
times and boom the stuff just came

times and boom the stuff just came

times and boom the stuff just came
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out on bris pav just really wanted to to

out on bris pav just really wanted to to

out on bris pav just really wanted to to
feature Tad and you know his sort of

feature Tad and you know his sort of

feature Tad and you know his sort of
almost like a mug shot kind of of thing

almost like a mug shot kind of of thing

almost like a mug shot kind of of thing
and uh really play up the personality of

and uh really play up the personality of

and uh really play up the personality of
of this individual I remember my mom

of this individual I remember my mom

of this individual I remember my mom
when I showed her the record when she

when I showed her the record when she

when I showed her the record when she
was still alive she goes she saw the

was still alive she goes she saw the

was still alive she goes she saw the
picture and she saw me smiling she goes

picture and she saw me smiling she goes

picture and she saw me smiling she goes
oh you look so good and then she saw the

oh you look so good and then she saw the

oh you look so good and then she saw the
title she say oh Dad how could you why

title she say oh Dad how could you why

title she say oh Dad how could you why
why did you name the record that and it

why did you name the record that and it

why did you name the record that and it
was disappointing for reason but then

was disappointing for reason but then

was disappointing for reason but then
she'd go back and like well you're

she'd go back and like well you're

she'd go back and like well you're
smiling that looks good that's nice nice

smiling that looks good that's nice nice

smiling that looks good that's nice nice
boy

boy

boy
uh this is

uh this is

uh this is
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Tad there was always a a really great

Tad there was always a a really great
crowd reaction at Tad

crowd reaction at Tad

crowd reaction at Tad
gigs I think Tad was really the really

gigs I think Tad was really the really

gigs I think Tad was really the really
good at at working up the audience

good at at working up the audience

good at at working up the audience
actually some of the the best photos I

actually some of the the best photos I

actually some of the the best photos I
got were of Kurt the bass player and

got were of Kurt the bass player and

got were of Kurt the bass player and
he's actually featured in my book touch

he's actually featured in my book touch

he's actually featured in my book touch
bam sick there's a double page spread

bam sick there's a double page spread

bam sick there's a double page spread
one where he's smoking out of a bong and

one where he's smoking out of a bong and

one where he's smoking out of a bong and
then the other where later that evening

then the other where later that evening

then the other where later that evening
he's he's on stage he had an amazing

he's he's on stage he had an amazing

he's he's on stage he had an amazing
presence you know as far as being a bass

presence you know as far as being a bass

presence you know as far as being a bass
player goes I know that Tad and Kurt

player goes I know that Tad and Kurt

player goes I know that Tad and Kurt
were kind of always the core of the band

were kind of always the core of the band

were kind of always the core of the band
and those guys seemed closer than

and those guys seemed closer than

and those guys seemed closer than
anybody else funny as and very well

anybody else funny as and very well

anybody else funny as and very well
read highly educated and uh great

read highly educated and uh great

read highly educated and uh great
songwriter he was uh getting an English

songwriter he was uh getting an English

songwriter he was uh getting an English
degree and he was very focused on

degree and he was very focused on

degree and he was very focused on
becoming a poet so you know he used to

becoming a poet so you know he used to

becoming a poet so you know he used to
kind of hang out at this uh this is kind

kind of hang out at this uh this is kind

kind of hang out at this uh this is kind
of before espresso blew up really huge

of before espresso blew up really huge

of before espresso blew up really huge
this coffee shop called the Allegro

this coffee shop called the Allegro

this coffee shop called the Allegro
drinking espresso hanging out with a

drinking espresso hanging out with a

drinking espresso hanging out with a
bnch bunch of beatnik types you know

bnch bunch of beatnik types you know

bnch bunch of beatnik types you know
he'd wore like a beret on occasion like

he'd wore like a beret on occasion like

he'd wore like a beret on occasion like
Kurt Danielson went from this guy who

Kurt Danielson went from this guy who

Kurt Danielson went from this guy who
was like sipping APR so going to poetry

was like sipping APR so going to poetry

was like sipping APR so going to poetry
readings uh you know very nice very nice

readings uh you know very nice very nice

readings uh you know very nice very nice
wearing a beret to

wearing a beret to

wearing a beret to
uh this guy who made this t-shirt hand

uh this guy who made this t-shirt hand

uh this guy who made this t-shirt hand
scrolled in giant letters stinky

scrolled in giant letters stinky

scrolled in giant letters stinky
stinks stinky stinks on it and

stinks stinky stinks on it and

stinks stinky stinks on it and
it's like dude you are as politically

it's like dude you are as politically

it's like dude you are as politically
incorrect as any human being I have ever

incorrect as any human being I have ever

incorrect as any human being I have ever
met it was like he just tossed his uh

met it was like he just tossed his uh

met it was like he just tossed his uh
balir and Ry books out the window and

balir and Ry books out the window and

balir and Ry books out the window and
said it if somebody in 1989 said

said it if somebody in 1989 said

said it if somebody in 1989 said
yeah I know Kurt I'm buddies with Kurt

yeah I know Kurt I'm buddies with Kurt

yeah I know Kurt I'm buddies with Kurt
it was Kurt Danielson not Kurt

it was Kurt Danielson not Kurt

it was Kurt Danielson not Kurt
Cobain you ready Kurt Danielson was a

Cobain you ready Kurt Danielson was a

Cobain you ready Kurt Danielson was a
very popular musician a friendly guy had

very popular musician a friendly guy had

very popular musician a friendly guy had
been in a number of bands very talented

been in a number of bands very talented

been in a number of bands very talented
musician had a great amount of respect

musician had a great amount of respect

musician had a great amount of respect
and when people said Kurt's got a new

and when people said Kurt's got a new

and when people said Kurt's got a new
band they were talking about Danielson

band they were talking about Danielson

band they were talking about Danielson
and not Cobain

and not Cobain

and not Cobain
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that was the best and most effective

that was the best and most effective
Sonic representation of the way that the

Sonic representation of the way that the

Sonic representation of the way that the
Tad band sound actually sounded live and

Tad band sound actually sounded live and

Tad band sound actually sounded live and
uh I think Steve Albini just completely

uh I think Steve Albini just completely

uh I think Steve Albini just completely
understood the

understood the

understood the
band we were tired when we came back we

band we were tired when we came back we

band we were tired when we came back we
put a lot into it we poured ourselves

put a lot into it we poured ourselves

put a lot into it we poured ourselves
into it and you know we did this EP you

into it and you know we did this EP you

into it and you know we did this EP you
eight seven songs in 3 days recording

eight seven songs in 3 days recording

eight seven songs in 3 days recording
and mixing it was it was like the

and mixing it was it was like the

and mixing it was it was like the
recording of an accident of a car

recording of an accident of a car

recording of an accident of a car
accident nothing rehearsed it was just a

accident nothing rehearsed it was just a

accident nothing rehearsed it was just a
collision and it was on tape when we got

collision and it was on tape when we got

collision and it was on tape when we got
you know the rough mixes of that I this

you know the rough mixes of that I this

you know the rough mixes of that I this
is back in the age of cassette tapes I I

is back in the age of cassette tapes I I

is back in the age of cassette tapes I I
wore that tape down in like two weeks I

wore that tape down in like two weeks I

wore that tape down in like two weeks I
had listen to it over and over and over

had listen to it over and over and over

had listen to it over and over and over
and

and

and
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over she got a to be she's got an A to

over she got a to be she's got an A to
she's blower

she 2

she 2
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well the name of my Kurt Cobain

well the name of my Kurt Cobain
biography heavier than Heaven comes from

biography heavier than Heaven comes from

biography heavier than Heaven comes from
a line that I liked that I discovered uh

a line that I liked that I discovered uh

a line that I liked that I discovered uh
was what English journalists had

was what English journalists had

was what English journalists had
nicknamed the tour of Tad and Nirvana

nicknamed the tour of Tad and Nirvana

nicknamed the tour of Tad and Nirvana
that went through England early in their

that went through England early in their

that went through England early in their
careers they called it the heavier than

careers they called it the heavier than

careers they called it the heavier than
Heaven tour and that name came both from

Heaven tour and that name came both from

Heaven tour and that name came both from
the fact that the sound of the bands was

the fact that the sound of the bands was

the fact that the sound of the bands was
very very heavy it came from Tad's girth

very very heavy it came from Tad's girth

very very heavy it came from Tad's girth
this was a heavy band and it also came

this was a heavy band and it also came

this was a heavy band and it also came
from the sort of ethereal sound that

from the sort of ethereal sound that

from the sort of ethereal sound that
that some of I think Kurt Cobain's

that some of I think Kurt Cobain's

that some of I think Kurt Cobain's
songwriting was already starting to

songwriting was already starting to

songwriting was already starting to
approach that tour with Tad was the tour

approach that tour with Tad was the tour

approach that tour with Tad was the tour
you know these were the neutron bomb

you know these were the neutron bomb

you know these were the neutron bomb
bands of of Seattle

it was good cuz we'd seen these guys

it was good cuz we'd seen these guys
play and they they became good friends

play and they they became good friends

play and they they became good friends
here on state side and then we're going

here on state side and then we're going

here on state side and then we're going
over to Europe together on a

over to Europe together on a

over to Europe together on a
co-headlining tour as a band you get to

co-headlining tour as a band you get to

co-headlining tour as a band you get to
know your fellow band members and if you

know your fellow band members and if you

know your fellow band members and if you
go out with with another band then you

go out with with another band then you

go out with with another band then you
get to know them just as if they were in

get to know them just as if they were in

get to know them just as if they were in
your band too especially since we were

your band too especially since we were

your band too especially since we were
sharing the same van both bands were in

sharing the same van both bands were in

sharing the same van both bands were in
this Euro van and they have the tall you

this Euro van and they have the tall you

this Euro van and they have the tall you
know luggage area we had all our

know luggage area we had all our

know luggage area we had all our
t-shirts all our gear all of us plus our

t-shirts all our gear all of us plus our

t-shirts all our gear all of us plus our
sound man plus our driver all crammed in

sound man plus our driver all crammed in

sound man plus our driver all crammed in
the same Fiat van the same standard Fiat

the same Fiat van the same standard Fiat

the same Fiat van the same standard Fiat
van everybody tours in you know a big

van everybody tours in you know a big

van everybody tours in you know a big
guy and uh Nova solich is a tall guy and

guy and uh Nova solich is a tall guy and

guy and uh Nova solich is a tall guy and
I remember seeing him all hunched up

I remember seeing him all hunched up

I remember seeing him all hunched up
like in a seat like this wherever cuz

like in a seat like this wherever cuz

like in a seat like this wherever cuz
they're small seats you know so we were

they're small seats you know so we were

they're small seats you know so we were
all just crammed in this van there was

all just crammed in this van there was

all just crammed in this van there was
really any room to even move the stories

really any room to even move the stories

really any room to even move the stories
that people told me it was literally

that people told me it was literally

that people told me it was literally
like the joking they say a Chinese fire

like the joking they say a Chinese fire

like the joking they say a Chinese fire
drill if somebody had to go to the

drill if somebody had to go to the

drill if somebody had to go to the
bathroom they had to unpack all the the

bathroom they had to unpack all the the

bathroom they had to unpack all the the
gear maybe I might have had the best

gear maybe I might have had the best

gear maybe I might have had the best
luck being the smallest of everybody

luck being the smallest of everybody

luck being the smallest of everybody
there it was it was it was quite an

there it was it was it was quite an

there it was it was it was quite an
experience it was a lot of work we were

experience it was a lot of work we were

experience it was a lot of work we were
young and naive and we didn't care that

young and naive and we didn't care that

young and naive and we didn't care that
we wanted to work our asses off we we

we wanted to work our asses off we we

we wanted to work our asses off we we
wanted to sacrifice ourselves for the

wanted to sacrifice ourselves for the

wanted to sacrifice ourselves for the
music we believed in and this was a

music we believed in and this was a

music we believed in and this was a
chance to do it and I remembering

chance to do it and I remembering

chance to do it and I remembering
playing in the UK with Nirvana and it's

playing in the UK with Nirvana and it's

playing in the UK with Nirvana and it's
just just complete mehem kids dropping

just just complete mehem kids dropping

just just complete mehem kids dropping
down from the the rafters one after the

down from the the rafters one after the

down from the the rafters one after the
other just floating off the stages just

other just floating off the stages just

other just floating off the stages just
like constantly didn't know what to make

like constantly didn't know what to make

like constantly didn't know what to make
of it at the time like wow this was

of it at the time like wow this was

of it at the time like wow this was
pretty bizarre

because we have hindsight you know

because we have hindsight you know
Nirvana went and became huge everyone

Nirvana went and became huge everyone

Nirvana went and became huge everyone
thinks that that tour and many of those

thinks that that tour and many of those

thinks that that tour and many of those
early shows that all anyone talked about

early shows that all anyone talked about

early shows that all anyone talked about
Was Nirvana and that's not true at all

Was Nirvana and that's not true at all

Was Nirvana and that's not true at all
Tad got just as much ink and attention

Tad got just as much ink and attention

Tad got just as much ink and attention
as Nirvana did you know on that that

as Nirvana did you know on that that

as Nirvana did you know on that that
tour they were truly co-headliners it

tour they were truly co-headliners it

tour they were truly co-headliners it
wasn't that Nirvana was even bigger than

wasn't that Nirvana was even bigger than

wasn't that Nirvana was even bigger than
Tad there was one person that you could

Tad there was one person that you could

Tad there was one person that you could
pull out and go okay we wanted to do a

pull out and go okay we wanted to do a

pull out and go okay we wanted to do a
photo shoot with this guy because he

photo shoot with this guy because he

photo shoot with this guy because he
embodies the this kind of Northwest

embodies the this kind of Northwest

embodies the this kind of Northwest
Americana I think the British audience

Americana I think the British audience

Americana I think the British audience
was getting really fed up with the the

was getting really fed up with the the

was getting really fed up with the the
lightness of a lot of the Indie British

lightness of a lot of the Indie British

lightness of a lot of the Indie British
pop that was coming out what was really

pop that was coming out what was really

pop that was coming out what was really
fun is you know we were switching off

fun is you know we were switching off

fun is you know we were switching off
night after night there you know one

night after night there you know one

night after night there you know one
night Tad would headline then and then

night Tad would headline then and then

night Tad would headline then and then
the next night we would and then just go

the next night we would and then just go

the next night we would and then just go
back and forth I remember it took

back and forth I remember it took

back and forth I remember it took
Nirvana took us a about a week or so a

Nirvana took us a about a week or so a

Nirvana took us a about a week or so a
couple weeks into the tour to finally

couple weeks into the tour to finally

couple weeks into the tour to finally
kind of find our groove and start

kind of find our groove and start

kind of find our groove and start
playing well like just making the

playing well like just making the

playing well like just making the
transition it took a while to get up to

transition it took a while to get up to

transition it took a while to get up to
get up to speed but then we started

get up to speed but then we started

get up to speed but then we started
playing well and see we would open for

playing well and see we would open for

playing well and see we would open for
Tad in the UK because Tad were in the

Tad in the UK because Tad were in the

Tad in the UK because Tad were in the
music newspapers and so we were like the

music newspapers and so we were like the

music newspapers and so we were like the
opening act and we had lots of great

opening act and we had lots of great

opening act and we had lots of great
conversations we came we became Brothers

conversations we came we became Brothers

conversations we came we became Brothers
I remember you know uh Kurt telling me

I remember you know uh Kurt telling me

I remember you know uh Kurt telling me
the stories of that tour and and he lit

the stories of that tour and and he lit

the stories of that tour and and he lit
up like you never saw him lit up he

up like you never saw him lit up he

up like you never saw him lit up he
described so wonderfully when Tad also

described so wonderfully when Tad also

described so wonderfully when Tad also
was vomiting a lot and and Cobain became

was vomiting a lot and and Cobain became

was vomiting a lot and and Cobain became
just fascinated with it Kurt would

just fascinated with it Kurt would

just fascinated with it Kurt would
always light up during that time and

always light up during that time and

always light up during that time and
like get up from laying down you know

like get up from laying down you know

like get up from laying down you know
laying down backstage and hold the

laying down backstage and hold the

laying down backstage and hold the
bucket for me and laugh he enjoyed them

bucket for me and laugh he enjoyed them

bucket for me and laugh he enjoyed them
more than anybody else did certainly I

more than anybody else did certainly I

more than anybody else did certainly I
think more than Dad

think more than Dad

think more than Dad
did we great it you know like how was

did we great it you know like how was

did we great it you know like how was
that one well I'd say you know on chunk

that one well I'd say you know on chunk

that one well I'd say you know on chunk
wise it was a seven and and he says

wise it was a seven and and he says

wise it was a seven and and he says
you're you got tears coming out of your

you're you got tears coming out of your

you're you got tears coming out of your
eyes I'd say that's good one for

eyes I'd say that's good one for

eyes I'd say that's good one for
velocity and Kurt had a great amount of

velocity and Kurt had a great amount of

velocity and Kurt had a great amount of
respect for Tad and for everybody in

respect for Tad and for everybody in

respect for Tad and for everybody in
that band Tad as I ride in heavier than

that band Tad as I ride in heavier than

that band Tad as I ride in heavier than
heaven in some ways became Kurt's Muse

heaven in some ways became Kurt's Muse

heaven in some ways became Kurt's Muse
for a couple of months he wrote you know

for a couple of months he wrote you know

for a couple of months he wrote you know
a couple of songs about Tad at least

a couple of songs about Tad at least

a couple of songs about Tad at least
about the weird bodily fluids

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they rejected Uh Wood goblins because

they rejected Uh Wood goblins because
according to them it was too

according to them it was too

according to them it was too
ugly which was we we kind of thought

ugly which was we we kind of thought

ugly which was we we kind of thought
kind of

kind of

kind of
cool being too ugly for MTV during the

cool being too ugly for MTV during the

cool being too ugly for MTV during the
era of uh Cherry Pie and skidrow and

era of uh Cherry Pie and skidrow and

era of uh Cherry Pie and skidrow and
like that I don't know it's kind of

like that I don't know it's kind of

like that I don't know it's kind of
cool

they aired a later video claiming

they aired a later video claiming
claiming that that uh they had been uh

claiming that that uh they had been uh

claiming that that uh they had been uh
criticized for not airing Tad videos but

criticized for not airing Tad videos but

criticized for not airing Tad videos but
that's not true cuz we're going to air

that's not true cuz we're going to air

that's not true cuz we're going to air
one right now and then they aired a

one right now and then they aired a

one right now and then they aired a
later one that was not nearly as heavy

later one that was not nearly as heavy

later one that was not nearly as heavy
or as

or as

or as
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ugly and my boss was like yeah Tad Tad

ugly and my boss was like yeah Tad Tad
ripped out the urinal out of the wall

ripped out the urinal out of the wall

ripped out the urinal out of the wall
damn it and I was like somebody ripped a

damn it and I was like somebody ripped a

damn it and I was like somebody ripped a
Ural out of a wall and I was like Tad

Ural out of a wall and I was like Tad

Ural out of a wall and I was like Tad
who's Tad does he work here he's the

who's Tad does he work here he's the

who's Tad does he work here he's the
rock Lord and Master he really is

rock Lord and Master he really is

rock Lord and Master he really is
everybody respects him as a musician

everybody respects him as a musician

everybody respects him as a musician
he's a a musical genius um he studied

he's a a musical genius um he studied

he's a a musical genius um he studied
classical percussion and mastered uh

classical percussion and mastered uh

classical percussion and mastered uh
musical Theory so that when uh it came

musical Theory so that when uh it came

musical Theory so that when uh it came
to playing Rock drums it was like

to playing Rock drums it was like

to playing Rock drums it was like
stealing candy from a baby people who

stealing candy from a baby people who

stealing candy from a baby people who
are fans of the band and don't know him

are fans of the band and don't know him

are fans of the band and don't know him
at all they'd be might be surprised to

at all they'd be might be surprised to

at all they'd be might be surprised to
know that he is hardly the scary insane

know that he is hardly the scary insane

know that he is hardly the scary insane
guy that he portrays himself to be and

guy that he portrays himself to be and

guy that he portrays himself to be and
he's like one of the sweetest funniest

he's like one of the sweetest funniest

he's like one of the sweetest funniest
kindest people I've ever met when I

kindest people I've ever met when I

kindest people I've ever met when I
finally got to meet him he he said

finally got to meet him he he said

finally got to meet him he he said
something like um hi my name is

something like um hi my name is

something like um hi my name is
uh Thomas Doyle nice to meet you and he

uh Thomas Doyle nice to meet you and he

uh Thomas Doyle nice to meet you and he
was like the nicest dude I ever met in

was like the nicest dude I ever met in

was like the nicest dude I ever met in
my life I couldn't imagine that he was

my life I couldn't imagine that he was

my life I couldn't imagine that he was
the urinal Destroyer you know that I

the urinal Destroyer you know that I

the urinal Destroyer you know that I
heard about well when Ted comes at you

heard about well when Ted comes at you

heard about well when Ted comes at you
and speaks to you for the first time uh

and speaks to you for the first time uh

and speaks to you for the first time uh
and you don't know what to expect if

and you don't know what to expect if

and you don't know what to expect if
he's angry he's really tells you what's

he's angry he's really tells you what's

he's angry he's really tells you what's
on his mind but the big thing about Ted

on his mind but the big thing about Ted

on his mind but the big thing about Ted
is he's a Huggy Bear he's a real

is he's a Huggy Bear he's a real

is he's a Huggy Bear he's a real
pussycat and if you get to know Ted you

pussycat and if you get to know Ted you

pussycat and if you get to know Ted you
basically you're running you're dealing

basically you're running you're dealing

basically you're running you're dealing
with one of the nicest guys you'll ever

with one of the nicest guys you'll ever

with one of the nicest guys you'll ever
me in your life I can't think of one

me in your life I can't think of one

me in your life I can't think of one
person and I'm not saying this as simply

person and I'm not saying this as simply

person and I'm not saying this as simply
as a bump but in 20 years I can't think

as a bump but in 20 years I can't think

as a bump but in 20 years I can't think
of anyone who had uh had a personal

of anyone who had uh had a personal

of anyone who had uh had a personal
criticism with a guy he was someone that

criticism with a guy he was someone that

criticism with a guy he was someone that
everyone always loved and every band had

everyone always loved and every band had

everyone always loved and every band had
had its you

had its you

had its you
know I might have been that guy for a

know I might have been that guy for a

know I might have been that guy for a
bit who knows I think our band kind kind

bit who knows I think our band kind kind

bit who knows I think our band kind kind
of rotated the you know but T

of rotated the you know but T

of rotated the you know but T
Tad wasn't that many people will cite

Tad wasn't that many people will cite

Tad wasn't that many people will cite
8way Santa as being

8way Santa as being

8way Santa as being
you know the defining record and in many

you know the defining record and in many

you know the defining record and in many
ways it really was it was very versatile

ways it really was it was very versatile

ways it really was it was very versatile
some amazing memorable songs on

some amazing memorable songs on

some amazing memorable songs on
the record working with Butch fig you

the record working with Butch fig you

the record working with Butch fig you
know this is ahead of his recording

know this is ahead of his recording

know this is ahead of his recording
never

mind so it's a great sounding record the

mind so it's a great sounding record the
band's very confident you know there was

band's very confident you know there was

band's very confident you know there was
a lot of um internal distress during the

a lot of um internal distress during the

a lot of um internal distress during the
recording of that record I know that

recording of that record I know that

recording of that record I know that
that's that record led to the

that's that record led to the

that's that record led to the
ultimate you know fragmenting of the of

ultimate you know fragmenting of the of

ultimate you know fragmenting of the of
Tad mock

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one we knew we had some really good

one we knew we had some really good

one we knew we had some really good
songs and we really gotten our legs

songs and we really gotten our legs

songs and we really gotten our legs
together and we knew how each other were

together and we knew how each other were

together and we knew how each other were
playing and this was Steve's last record

playing and this was Steve's last record

playing and this was Steve's last record
he

he

he
uh was I think not fully satisfied with

uh was I think not fully satisfied with

uh was I think not fully satisfied with
the Direction the band was going in but

the Direction the band was going in but

the Direction the band was going in but
I don't think he really knew what

I don't think he really knew what

I don't think he really knew what
direction he wanted to go in himself he

direction he wanted to go in himself he

direction he wanted to go in himself he
was not uh cooperative and didn't want

was not uh cooperative and didn't want

was not uh cooperative and didn't want
to play at certain times of the day and

to play at certain times of the day and

to play at certain times of the day and
it actually came down to a point where

it actually came down to a point where

it actually came down to a point where
we had to get we had to get some things

we had to get we had to get some things

we had to get we had to get some things
done and I said okay Steve I'm going to

done and I said okay Steve I'm going to

done and I said okay Steve I'm going to
play drums then Tad had a

play drums then Tad had a

play drums then Tad had a
very uh set idea of how he wanted the

very uh set idea of how he wanted the

very uh set idea of how he wanted the
drums to be he really wanted Steve to

drums to be he really wanted Steve to

drums to be he really wanted Steve to
just to lay down a solid foundation and

just to lay down a solid foundation and

just to lay down a solid foundation and
that was it and there was a bit of a

that was it and there was a bit of a

that was it and there was a bit of a
disagreement over this and um so Steve

disagreement over this and um so Steve

disagreement over this and um so Steve
retired to the uh upstairs office and I

retired to the uh upstairs office and I

retired to the uh upstairs office and I
think he drank maybe 14 beers and he

think he drank maybe 14 beers and he

think he drank maybe 14 beers and he
came down and one take he played the the

came down and one take he played the the

came down and one take he played the the
the drum part perfectly just the way Tad

the drum part perfectly just the way Tad

the drum part perfectly just the way Tad
wanted

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drumming on the rest of the record is

drumming on the rest of the record is

drumming on the rest of the record is
phenomenal just perfect uh but from that

phenomenal just perfect uh but from that

phenomenal just perfect uh but from that
point onward he felt like he he was

point onward he felt like he he was

point onward he felt like he he was
being told what to do and no longer was

being told what to do and no longer was

being told what to do and no longer was
it a spontaneous natural thing and there

it a spontaneous natural thing and there

it a spontaneous natural thing and there
was a bit of resentment and I think that

was a bit of resentment and I think that

was a bit of resentment and I think that
was what contributed to his

decision man got no style he one in

decision man got no style he one in
quite a while well we just got done um

quite a while well we just got done um

quite a while well we just got done um
recording it in Madison and uh I I

recording it in Madison and uh I I

recording it in Madison and uh I I
pretty much made my mind up at that

pretty much made my mind up at that

pretty much made my mind up at that
point don't remember why but when we got

point don't remember why but when we got

point don't remember why but when we got
back I did you know take the picture in

back I did you know take the picture in

back I did you know take the picture in
the back of the album that the PE fair

the back of the album that the PE fair

the back of the album that the PE fair
and that was it I'm done yeah little

and that was it I'm done yeah little

and that was it I'm done yeah little
Vans and stuff and I mean I just miss

Vans and stuff and I mean I just miss

Vans and stuff and I mean I just miss
Tom too much I guess if you're out on

Tom too much I guess if you're out on

Tom too much I guess if you're out on
the road and you're away from home and

the road and you're away from home and

the road and you're away from home and
you know you don't have the same bed

you know you don't have the same bed

you know you don't have the same bed
every night you know the Comforts that

every night you know the Comforts that

every night you know the Comforts that
most people enjoy it can get to you for

most people enjoy it can get to you for

most people enjoy it can get to you for
that record I mean we we we'd been

that record I mean we we we'd been

that record I mean we we we'd been
playing together and that's you know

playing together and that's you know

playing together and that's you know
we're starting to get that you know that

we're starting to get that you know that

we're starting to get that you know that
psychic thing that was happening the

psychic thing that was happening the

psychic thing that was happening the
unspoken musical feel we're riding

unspoken musical feel we're riding

unspoken musical feel we're riding
together as a unit it it was really a

together as a unit it it was really a

together as a unit it it was really a
good special time for the band and it

good special time for the band and it

good special time for the band and it
was uh before a lot of the uh craziness

was uh before a lot of the uh craziness

was uh before a lot of the uh craziness
went on with the major label Feeding

went on with the major label Feeding

went on with the major label Feeding
Frenzy in Seattle

Frenzy in Seattle

Frenzy in Seattle
and uh it was good and it was innocent

and uh it was good and it was innocent

and uh it was good and it was innocent
and it was honest and

and it was honest and

and it was honest and
pure and

pure and

pure and
uh it was

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fun if you better leave me

fun if you better leave me

fun if you better leave me
alone if you better get away

alone if you better get away

alone if you better get away
better lick my

better lick my

better lick my
wounds hope will die

wounds hope will die

wounds hope will die
someday and you better give me a shot

someday and you better give me a shot

someday and you better give me a shot
and you better say your

and you better say your

and you better say your
spells and you better give me a lot and

spells and you better give me a lot and

spells and you better give me a lot and
you better not ever

you better not ever

you better not ever
tell but you can never Escape my voice

tell but you can never Escape my voice

tell but you can never Escape my voice
and you can never Escape your choice you

and you can never Escape your choice you

and you can never Escape your choice you
can never escape a

can never escape a

can never escape a
back cuz you know there ain't no way

back cuz you know there ain't no way

back cuz you know there ain't no way
back

back

back
back no way

back no way

back no way
back don't

back don't

back don't
back don't

back we wanted to go out and promote

back we wanted to go out and promote
that record uh right away but we

that record uh right away but we

that record uh right away but we
couldn't because we didn't have a

couldn't because we didn't have a

couldn't because we didn't have a
drummer

so we did touring with him for 8way

so we did touring with him for 8way
Santa please welcome

Santa please welcome

Santa please welcome
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Tad

Tad
yeah

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I

I

I
yeah all

yeah all

yeah all
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well I think I lost my life I think I

well I think I lost my life I think I

well I think I lost my life I think I
lost I think I lost

lost I think I lost

lost I think I lost
tonight lost my

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about well you know what I think we

about well you know what I think we
we're going to head over to uh Boise

we're going to head over to uh Boise

we're going to head over to uh Boise
Idaho I

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my I

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beautiful I've enjoying one of my

beautiful I've enjoying one of my

beautiful I've enjoying one of my
pastimes which is drinking in

pastimes which is drinking in

pastimes which is drinking in
bed bottle

bed bottle

bed bottle
here cup

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we just hit the road we got to the venue

we just hit the road we got to the venue

we just hit the road we got to the venue
and there was a phone call from our

and there was a phone call from our

and there was a phone call from our
attorney and I I just knew it was bad

attorney and I I just knew it was bad

attorney and I I just knew it was bad
news when you get a phone call from your

news when you get a phone call from your

news when you get a phone call from your
attorney generally it's not good news

attorney generally it's not good news

attorney generally it's not good news
and um and sure enough uh he said uh

and um and sure enough uh he said uh

and um and sure enough uh he said uh
look you know that photograph that's on

look you know that photograph that's on

look you know that photograph that's on
the cover those people

the cover those people

the cover those people
um they they saw it and they're suing

um they they saw it and they're suing

um they they saw it and they're suing
you

over to a friend's house and uh they

over to a friend's house and uh they
they had been to a thrift store and they

they had been to a thrift store and they

they had been to a thrift store and they
had a photo album they just bought the

had a photo album they just bought the

had a photo album they just bought the
photo album so they could put photos in

photo album so they could put photos in

photo album so they could put photos in
it but they already had photos in them

it but they already had photos in them

it but they already had photos in them
we turned the page to this one shot and

we turned the page to this one shot and

we turned the page to this one shot and
it was this woman and this

it was this woman and this

it was this woman and this
man and the guy looked like he was in

man and the guy looked like he was in

man and the guy looked like he was in
Nazareth you know he had the full-on big

Nazareth you know he had the full-on big

Nazareth you know he had the full-on big
handlebar mustache and long hair and

handlebar mustache and long hair and

handlebar mustache and long hair and
they're just both cooked to the gills

they're just both cooked to the gills

they're just both cooked to the gills
they're both stoned you could tell they

they're both stoned you could tell they

they're both stoned you could tell they
had that kind of I'd look to him and and

had that kind of I'd look to him and and

had that kind of I'd look to him and and
the woman wasn't she was wearing a

the woman wasn't she was wearing a

the woman wasn't she was wearing a
bandana for a bra and he was holding her

bandana for a bra and he was holding her

bandana for a bra and he was holding her
and they were just grinning ear to

and they were just grinning ear to

and they were just grinning ear to
ear took that photo and we showed it to

ear took that photo and we showed it to

ear took that photo and we showed it to
Bruce and much like that look he saw

Bruce and much like that look he saw

Bruce and much like that look he saw
when I played in The Single for the

when I played in The Single for the

when I played in The Single for the
first time he's

first time he's

first time he's
like oh my God this is awesome and he

like oh my God this is awesome and he

like oh my God this is awesome and he
says can I take this and he took it and

says can I take this and he took it and

says can I take this and he took it and
he had somebody do some enhan color

he had somebody do some enhan color

he had somebody do some enhan color
enhancements and he to this day it's one

enhancements and he to this day it's one

enhancements and he to this day it's one
of my favorite covers ever in the

of my favorite covers ever in the

of my favorite covers ever in the
history of uh subpop little did we know

history of uh subpop little did we know

history of uh subpop little did we know
though we should have considered it at

though we should have considered it at

though we should have considered it at
the time this

the time this

the time this
couple though they had split up they

couple though they had split up they

couple though they had split up they
still were in the Seattle area and they

still were in the Seattle area and they

still were in the Seattle area and they
went into Tower Records one of them went

went into Tower Records one of them went

went into Tower Records one of them went
into Tower Records do you have this

into Tower Records do you have this

into Tower Records do you have this
record and the clerk was like yeah we

record and the clerk was like yeah we

record and the clerk was like yeah we
got like 20 or 30 of them right over

got like 20 or 30 of them right over

got like 20 or 30 of them right over
here and this is not at a time of CDs

here and this is not at a time of CDs

here and this is not at a time of CDs
this is still vinyl still quite

this is still vinyl still quite

this is still vinyl still quite
prominent so this is Big Picture she's

prominent so this is Big Picture she's

prominent so this is Big Picture she's
is like freaking out oh my God this is a

is like freaking out oh my God this is a

is like freaking out oh my God this is a
part of my past I don't want to remember

part of my past I don't want to remember

part of my past I don't want to remember
you go what the you know except

you go what the you know except

you go what the you know except
they didn't say what the I think it

they didn't say what the I think it

they didn't say what the I think it
they have become Born Again

they have become Born Again

they have become Born Again
Christians so they were saying like what

Christians so they were saying like what

Christians so they were saying like what
thy we had built up this head of

thy we had built up this head of

thy we had built up this head of
steam and we finally get a story it was

steam and we finally get a story it was

steam and we finally get a story it was
just the wrong story because at that

just the wrong story because at that

just the wrong story because at that
point in time the bigger the record

point in time the bigger the record

point in time the bigger the record
became the more damages they could sue

became the more damages they could sue

became the more damages they could sue
us for so we're suddenly place where

us for so we're suddenly place where

us for so we're suddenly place where
we're trying to no no no no no it's

we're trying to no no no no no it's

we're trying to no no no no no it's
really it's a small record and uh it's

really it's a small record and uh it's

really it's a small record and uh it's
going to stay a small record and they

going to stay a small record and they

going to stay a small record and they
thought oh we're going to be

thought oh we're going to be

thought oh we're going to be
millionaires after this or something

millionaires after this or something

millionaires after this or something
like that I I have no idea what they

like that I I have no idea what they

like that I I have no idea what they
thought typically when records are

thought typically when records are

thought typically when records are
released they're going to do most of

released they're going to do most of

released they're going to do most of
their sales in the first four to six

their sales in the first four to six

their sales in the first four to six
weeks so to have your record pulled two

weeks so to have your record pulled two

weeks so to have your record pulled two
weeks into it um that really it I think

weeks into it um that really it I think

weeks into it um that really it I think
it it hurt Ted's career a bit and we had

it it hurt Ted's career a bit and we had

it it hurt Ted's career a bit and we had
to re-engineer the artwork and get

to re-engineer the artwork and get

to re-engineer the artwork and get
something back out and it was it was

something back out and it was it was

something back out and it was it was
pretty challenging this is a big deal

pretty challenging this is a big deal

pretty challenging this is a big deal
record this is a record where we were

record this is a record where we were

record this is a record where we were
going to break Tad also at that time we

going to break Tad also at that time we

going to break Tad also at that time we
released a CD single

released a CD single

released a CD single
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Jack

Jack

Jack
Jack

Jack

Jack
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Jack Jack

Jack Jack

Jack Jack
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there was a particular employee who we

there was a particular employee who we

there was a particular employee who we
let

let

let
go who I remember just being hateful and

go who I remember just being hateful and

go who I remember just being hateful and
I swear to God though I cannot prove it

I swear to God though I cannot prove it

I swear to God though I cannot prove it
to this day that this particular

to this day that this particular

to this day that this particular
employee made aware that we had

employee made aware that we had

employee made aware that we had
infringed on their logo for the Jack

infringed on their logo for the Jack

infringed on their logo for the Jack
single where we basically used the logo

single where we basically used the logo

single where we basically used the logo
only we put Tad in the middle of the

only we put Tad in the middle of the

only we put Tad in the middle of the
logo ex employee who was pissed off at

logo ex employee who was pissed off at

logo ex employee who was pissed off at
the company otherwise we probably would

the company otherwise we probably would

the company otherwise we probably would
have gotten away with it as our way of

have gotten away with it as our way of

have gotten away with it as our way of
saying shouldn't have fired me Bros was

saying shouldn't have fired me Bros was

saying shouldn't have fired me Bros was
not too stoked thinking that uh their

not too stoked thinking that uh their

not too stoked thinking that uh their
name of their product would be involved

name of their product would be involved

name of their product would be involved
in uh the possibility of drunk driving

in uh the possibility of drunk driving

in uh the possibility of drunk driving
and so we heard from Council

and so we heard from Council

and so we heard from Council
and they were like you know we're going

and they were like you know we're going

and they were like you know we're going
to sue you for millions of

to sue you for millions of

to sue you for millions of
dollars you know you're get out

dollars you know you're get out

dollars you know you're get out
of the business go back to being a fry

of the business go back to being a fry

of the business go back to being a fry
cook get out of our Lives get out of our

cook get out of our Lives get out of our

cook get out of our Lives get out of our
face we're going to kill you crush you

face we're going to kill you crush you

face we're going to kill you crush you
Etc the label still hadn't sold Nirvana

Etc the label still hadn't sold Nirvana

Etc the label still hadn't sold Nirvana
or anything or maybe was about to but

or anything or maybe was about to but

or anything or maybe was about to but
that's a lot of money to put out there

that's a lot of money to put out there

that's a lot of money to put out there
and I think it really it really made it

and I think it really it really made it

and I think it really it really made it
hard to get a second win to the record

hard to get a second win to the record

hard to get a second win to the record
even though the record it was

even though the record it was

even though the record it was
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amazing controversy sells if you have

amazing controversy sells if you have
distribution unfortunately what Tad

distribution unfortunately what Tad

distribution unfortunately what Tad
suffered from was controversy without

suffered from was controversy without

suffered from was controversy without
distribution so suddenly you had all

distribution so suddenly you had all

distribution so suddenly you had all
these people talking about this record

these people talking about this record

these people talking about this record
that had pissed

that had pissed

that had pissed
off um but that record couldn't be found

off um but that record couldn't be found

off um but that record couldn't be found
anywhere and you know that was a very

anywhere and you know that was a very

anywhere and you know that was a very
unfortunate incident I think over time

unfortunate incident I think over time

unfortunate incident I think over time
it was more just a nuisance in in in

it was more just a nuisance in in in

it was more just a nuisance in in in
retrospect you know

retrospect you know

retrospect you know
because here was this like punk rock

because here was this like punk rock

because here was this like punk rock
band SL metal band not out to like mess

band SL metal band not out to like mess

band SL metal band not out to like mess
up anybody's life or anything you know

up anybody's life or anything you know

up anybody's life or anything you know
we're just out doing what we do and

we're just out doing what we do and

we're just out doing what we do and
having fun doing it and all of a sudden

having fun doing it and all of a sudden

having fun doing it and all of a sudden
we got all these

we got all these

we got all these
weird chain of events

weird chain of events

weird chain of events
happening it was really bizarre kind of

happening it was really bizarre kind of

happening it was really bizarre kind of
comic looking back at it but at the time

comic looking back at it but at the time

comic looking back at it but at the time
frustrating as

frustrating as

frustrating as
hell P loves me this I know cuz Bruce

hell P loves me this I know cuz Bruce

hell P loves me this I know cuz Bruce
pav told me

so the are weak and they are strong yes

so the are weak and they are strong yes
pman loves

pman loves

pman loves
me yes pman loves

me yes pman loves

me yes pman loves
me yes pman loves me you know why now

me yes pman loves me you know why now

me yes pman loves me you know why now
cuz Bruce pavit told me so

by this time there had been so much uh

by this time there had been so much uh
frustration uh and so much uh ranker and

frustration uh and so much uh ranker and

frustration uh and so much uh ranker and
and bitter feeling uh that was really

and bitter feeling uh that was really

and bitter feeling uh that was really
nobody's fault um but it it had to find

nobody's fault um but it it had to find

nobody's fault um but it it had to find
a Target somewhere and generally bands

a Target somewhere and generally bands

a Target somewhere and generally bands
rail against their labels so and a tried

rail against their labels so and a tried

rail against their labels so and a tried
and true tradition and we did the same

and true tradition and we did the same

and true tradition and we did the same
we would have been happy to stay with

we would have been happy to stay with

we would have been happy to stay with
sub pop had they

sub pop had they

sub pop had they
been had they appeared to be financially

been had they appeared to be financially

been had they appeared to be financially
solvent but it was getting to be like

solvent but it was getting to be like

solvent but it was getting to be like
they were owing so much money to so many

they were owing so much money to so many

they were owing so much money to so many
different people around town to the

different people around town to the

different people around town to the
bands we just saw it as a way of like

bands we just saw it as a way of like

bands we just saw it as a way of like
saving our friendships with Bruce and

saving our friendships with Bruce and

saving our friendships with Bruce and
Jonathan like well maybe we'll just like

Jonathan like well maybe we'll just like

Jonathan like well maybe we'll just like
remove this sort

remove this sort

remove this sort
of you know back away from the business

of you know back away from the business

of you know back away from the business
side of things it's tough to be in a

side of things it's tough to be in a

side of things it's tough to be in a
place where you're dealing with friends

place where you're dealing with friends

place where you're dealing with friends
and having to talk about money you know

and having to talk about money you know

and having to talk about money you know
especially when you want the best for

especially when you want the best for

especially when you want the best for
your friends and you're just not able to

your friends and you're just not able to

your friends and you're just not able to
do any more than you're able to do at a

do any more than you're able to do at a

do any more than you're able to do at a
certain time you know at the time you

certain time you know at the time you

certain time you know at the time you
know I felt a little

know I felt a little

know I felt a little
indignant but even at the time I kind of

indignant but even at the time I kind of

indignant but even at the time I kind of
went all right you know it's like we

went all right you know it's like we

went all right you know it's like we
didn't have our stuff together we wanted

didn't have our stuff together we wanted

didn't have our stuff together we wanted
to see if we could do something

to see if we could do something

to see if we could do something
different you know and there was

different you know and there was

different you know and there was
interest out there we had people

interest out there we had people

interest out there we had people
knocking on our door you know wanting to

knocking on our door you know wanting to

knocking on our door you know wanting to
to develop us the first thing was uh RCA

to develop us the first thing was uh RCA

to develop us the first thing was uh RCA
BMG you know biggest record company in

BMG you know biggest record company in

BMG you know biggest record company in
the world was interested partly what

the world was interested partly what

the world was interested partly what
happened in our favor was like that

happened in our favor was like that

happened in our favor was like that
Nirvana record was was blowing up big

Nirvana record was was blowing up big

Nirvana record was was blowing up big
and this the Pearl Jam record was

and this the Pearl Jam record was

and this the Pearl Jam record was
bubbling under at that point

and the people in the industry realized

and the people in the industry realized
they had no idea what was going

they had no idea what was going

they had no idea what was going
on all of a sudden you know it was like

on all of a sudden you know it was like

on all of a sudden you know it was like
up a few months previous to that they

up a few months previous to that they

up a few months previous to that they
could just sell Michael Jackson and Paul

could just sell Michael Jackson and Paul

could just sell Michael Jackson and Paul
Abdul and CC Music Factory a lot of

Abdul and CC Music Factory a lot of

Abdul and CC Music Factory a lot of
people were investing huge amounts of

people were investing huge amounts of

people were investing huge amounts of
money into these bands

money into these bands

money into these bands
thinking this is you know the next

thinking this is you know the next

thinking this is you know the next
musical Revolution we're starting to

musical Revolution we're starting to

musical Revolution we're starting to
realize that although we're having fun

realize that although we're having fun

realize that although we're having fun
this could be a possibility of not

this could be a possibility of not

this could be a possibility of not
having to work a day job ever again for

having to work a day job ever again for

having to work a day job ever again for
a while that was our Dream really I mean

a while that was our Dream really I mean

a while that was our Dream really I mean
we didn't plan on making a lot of money

we didn't plan on making a lot of money

we didn't plan on making a lot of money
or or being rock stars the idea was to

or or being rock stars the idea was to

or or being rock stars the idea was to
to play music for a living that's all I

to play music for a living that's all I

to play music for a living that's all I
ever asked for that's all I ever wanted

ever asked for that's all I ever wanted

ever asked for that's all I ever wanted
you know we were really leery of major

you know we were really leery of major

you know we were really leery of major
labels you know I'd grown up through

labels you know I'd grown up through

labels you know I'd grown up through
punk rock and hardcore and and you know

punk rock and hardcore and and you know

punk rock and hardcore and and you know
major labels were nothing but evil they

major labels were nothing but evil they

major labels were nothing but evil they
had it all like neatly packaged and

had it all like neatly packaged and

had it all like neatly packaged and
defined and they knew what kind of thing

defined and they knew what kind of thing

defined and they knew what kind of thing
was going to sell to the kids and all of

was going to sell to the kids and all of

was going to sell to the kids and all of
a sudden they didn't know anymore so

a sudden they didn't know anymore so

a sudden they didn't know anymore so
they let us when we signed War repri

they let us when we signed War repri

they let us when we signed War repri
they let us

they let us

they let us
do whatever the we wanted we

do whatever the we wanted we

do whatever the we wanted we
recorded in the same house Studio that

recorded in the same house Studio that

recorded in the same house Studio that
we recorded the previous record with a

we recorded the previous record with a

we recorded the previous record with a
subpop all the rest of that money we

subpop all the rest of that money we

subpop all the rest of that money we
kept you know that's how come I have

kept you know that's how come I have

kept you know that's how come I have
this house there wasn't any pressure to

this house there wasn't any pressure to

this house there wasn't any pressure to
to come up with anything you know Earth

to come up with anything you know Earth

to come up with anything you know Earth
shattering or there was no delusions

shattering or there was no delusions

shattering or there was no delusions
that we're going to sell billions of

that we're going to sell billions of

that we're going to sell billions of
Records we always had the the attitude

Records we always had the the attitude

Records we always had the the attitude
that we wanted to play our music and if

that we wanted to play our music and if

that we wanted to play our music and if
somebody wanted to help us achieve that

somebody wanted to help us achieve that

somebody wanted to help us achieve that
goal with their money and Financial

goal with their money and Financial

goal with their money and Financial
backing and their press and their their

backing and their press and their their

backing and their press and their their
radio

radio

radio
expertise we're into it rusp never heard

expertise we're into it rusp never heard

expertise we're into it rusp never heard
do the same thing up with the bike yeah

do the same thing up with the bike yeah

do the same thing up with the bike yeah
yeah yeah yeah that's nice another

yeah yeah yeah that's nice another

yeah yeah yeah that's nice another
one another one good

one another one good

one another one good
it lift up the bike cross up we had uh

it lift up the bike cross up we had uh

it lift up the bike cross up we had uh
Josh on drums and so we were kind of a

Josh on drums and so we were kind of a

Josh on drums and so we were kind of a
new band we felt like a new Incarnation

new band we felt like a new Incarnation

new band we felt like a new Incarnation
we had new blood and Josh was a few

we had new blood and Josh was a few

we had new blood and Josh was a few
years younger than the rest of us in the

years younger than the rest of us in the

years younger than the rest of us in the
beginning of ' 92 I just gotten out of

beginning of ' 92 I just gotten out of

beginning of ' 92 I just gotten out of
the uh the accused I did this little

the uh the accused I did this little

the uh the accused I did this little
demo at

demo at

demo at
reciprocal um with Jack with just me

reciprocal um with Jack with just me

reciprocal um with Jack with just me
playing the drums and it's like a little

playing the drums and it's like a little

playing the drums and it's like a little
five minute or a little like 30 second

five minute or a little like 30 second

five minute or a little like 30 second
clip then a few weeks later I got a call

clip then a few weeks later I got a call

clip then a few weeks later I got a call
from Kurt Danielson asking you know do

from Kurt Danielson asking you know do

from Kurt Danielson asking you know do
you want to come try out for the band

you want to come try out for the band

you want to come try out for the band
you know real Snappy could play

you know real Snappy could play

you know real Snappy could play
Lightning Fast and he played hard as

Lightning Fast and he played hard as

Lightning Fast and he played hard as
hell I've never played with a drummer

hell I've never played with a drummer

hell I've never played with a drummer
that played as hard as he does he was

that played as hard as he does he was

that played as hard as he does he was
breaking regularly and that was

breaking regularly and that was

breaking regularly and that was
really

really

really
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fun for this record we wanted to do

fun for this record we wanted to do

fun for this record we wanted to do
something different um and we'd been

something different um and we'd been

something different um and we'd been
friends with Jay Mascus from Dinosaur Jr

friends with Jay Mascus from Dinosaur Jr

friends with Jay Mascus from Dinosaur Jr
ever since we played with those guys at

ever since we played with those guys at

ever since we played with those guys at
the central in Seattle in 88 we had a

the central in Seattle in 88 we had a

the central in Seattle in 88 we had a
major record deal and all this you know

major record deal and all this you know

major record deal and all this you know
like a budget we were there for you know

like a budget we were there for you know

like a budget we were there for you know
2 weeks I went to the bank and uh and

2 weeks I went to the bank and uh and

2 weeks I went to the bank and uh and
got a wire for 40 Grand yeah caring

got a wire for 40 Grand yeah caring

got a wire for 40 Grand yeah caring
around a roll of fat cash was was a

around a roll of fat cash was was a

around a roll of fat cash was was a
pleasure we spent it well a nothing but

pleasure we spent it well a nothing but

pleasure we spent it well a nothing but
rock and

roll Jay had a lot of good input

roll Jay had a lot of good input
most of the time Jay just sat with his

most of the time Jay just sat with his

most of the time Jay just sat with his
sunglasses in the back in the couch and

sunglasses in the back in the couch and

sunglasses in the back in the couch and
I swear to God most of the time he was

I swear to God most of the time he was

I swear to God most of the time he was
taking naps because he had the

taking naps because he had the

taking naps because he had the
sunglasses on he couldn't tell what his

sunglasses on he couldn't tell what his

sunglasses on he couldn't tell what his
eyes were doing

eyes were doing

eyes were doing
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more riffing and uh my vocals were

more riffing and uh my vocals were

more riffing and uh my vocals were
getting better

getting better

getting better
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even though it was for a major label

even though it was for a major label

even though it was for a major label
nobody was breathing down our neck

nobody was breathing down our neck

nobody was breathing down our neck
nobody came out to watch us or or or to

nobody came out to watch us or or or to

nobody came out to watch us or or or to
to to be a watchdog or or to to make

to to be a watchdog or or to to make

to to be a watchdog or or to to make
sure that we were weren't blowing the

sure that we were weren't blowing the

sure that we were weren't blowing the
company money on cocaine or nothing like

company money on cocaine or nothing like

company money on cocaine or nothing like
that the last hours of the session how

that the last hours of the session how

that the last hours of the session how
do you feel there

do you feel there

do you feel there
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bud I don't think it's quite as bad as

bud I don't think it's quite as bad as
Gary portrays it to me that's one of my

Gary portrays it to me that's one of my

Gary portrays it to me that's one of my
favorite records too I mean that one was

favorite records too I mean that one was

favorite records too I mean that one was
like really turning point that was we

like really turning point that was we

like really turning point that was we
started to go more into the the metal

started to go more into the the metal

started to go more into the the metal
edge of that one our our chops were much

edge of that one our our chops were much

edge of that one our our chops were much
better

late too late we're out with uh sound

late too late we're out with uh sound
garden Allison Chains during that record

garden Allison Chains during that record

garden Allison Chains during that record
you know we went out with really well

you know we went out with really well

you know we went out with really well
known bands at the time you know and uh

known bands at the time you know and uh

known bands at the time you know and uh
we're we were holding our

we're we were holding our

we're we were holding our
own

own

own
yeah hi back there's a rave that follows

yeah hi back there's a rave that follows

yeah hi back there's a rave that follows
us wherever we go

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Boy take di de for

Boy take di de for

Boy take di de for
yourself take di for your soul dick dick

yourself take di for your soul dick dick

yourself take di for your soul dick dick
di like a fish dick Di

Jo made me get up and take that thing

Jo made me get up and take that thing
out of your hand and crack you over the

out of your hand and crack you over the

out of your hand and crack you over the
head with

it what are you doing oh man I wish I

it what are you doing oh man I wish I
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knews all right I did it I did it all

knews all right I did it I did it all
it's great to be able to be up

it's great to be able to be up

it's great to be able to be up
there and sound louder than God

there and sound louder than God

there and sound louder than God
you know for few minutes

I can't live down there the mayonnaise

I can't live down there the mayonnaise
in the hair don't

in the hair don't

in the hair don't
you oh you're

sick come on Ted right now bring that

sick come on Ted right now bring that
camera follow

me what are you

me what are you
doing Kur are you encouraging this kind

doing Kur are you encouraging this kind

doing Kur are you encouraging this kind
of behavior like I think it's good clean

of behavior like I think it's good clean

of behavior like I think it's good clean
fun for kids today that you're

fun for kids today that you're

fun for kids today that you're
garbage GS usually we check out our

garbage GS usually we check out our

garbage GS usually we check out our
dressing room though it's like let's go

dressing room though it's like let's go

dressing room though it's like let's go
over and see Tad and it's walking in you

over and see Tad and it's walking in you

over and see Tad and it's walking in you
know somewhere in Canada or in Germany

know somewhere in Canada or in Germany

know somewhere in Canada or in Germany
and and Tad and Josh and Kirk just

and and Tad and Josh and Kirk just

and and Tad and Josh and Kirk just
sitting there just kind of that sort of

sitting there just kind of that sort of

sitting there just kind of that sort of
well inv vied you know vacuous sort of

well inv vied you know vacuous sort of

well inv vied you know vacuous sort of
stare glare there would have been a

stare glare there would have been a

stare glare there would have been a
whole lot more fun if they were somehow

whole lot more fun if they were somehow

whole lot more fun if they were somehow
responsive in in some kind I mean I mean

responsive in in some kind I mean I mean

responsive in in some kind I mean I mean
Prett Gary was a blast cuz he was alert

Prett Gary was a blast cuz he was alert

Prett Gary was a blast cuz he was alert
you know he knew what was going on the

you know he knew what was going on the

you know he knew what was going on the
other guys are sort of like a wall of

other guys are sort of like a wall of

other guys are sort of like a wall of
vacancy but it was amusing because

vacancy but it was amusing because

vacancy but it was amusing because
they'd all walk out there and they you

they'd all walk out there and they you

they'd all walk out there and they you
know and just blow

doors I'm still on drugs

doors I'm still on drugs
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foring

foring

foring
actually guy the green suit he's a

actually guy the green suit he's a

actually guy the green suit he's a
liar he's an imp

liar he's an imp

liar he's an imp
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I I just stay home and uh work on Taxi

I I just stay home and uh work on Taxi
dermy projects uh I stuff badgers for a

dermy projects uh I stuff badgers for a

dermy projects uh I stuff badgers for a
living I I mean we make money at this at

living I I mean we make money at this at

living I I mean we make money at this at
the band but uh when during the lean

the band but uh when during the lean

the band but uh when during the lean
times uh I sell a few stuffed Badgers on

times uh I sell a few stuffed Badgers on

times uh I sell a few stuffed Badgers on
the side and make ends meat Ian you see

the side and make ends meat Ian you see

the side and make ends meat Ian you see
the Press killed

the Press killed

the Press killed
it well the Badgers were killed uh

it well the Badgers were killed uh

it well the Badgers were killed uh
strangled but I'm talking

strangled but I'm talking

strangled but I'm talking
about oh excuse me misunderstood

about oh excuse me misunderstood

about oh excuse me misunderstood
there don't skip

there don't skip

there don't skip
Mar the

Mar the

Mar the
M all the

leapy no want to speak out loud no

leapy no want to speak out loud no
movement in the trees no love more Le

movement in the trees no love more Le

movement in the trees no love more Le
saw the falling all the

live I got to

live I got to
know I

know I

know I
got just want

all I'm got

all I'm got
alone I got

alone I got

alone I got
alone just

you can hold on to my back or something

you can hold on to my back or something
if you want hold my shirt with contacts

if you want hold my shirt with contacts

if you want hold my shirt with contacts
I'm going to be yeah you just hurting

I'm going to be yeah you just hurting

I'm going to be yeah you just hurting
tonight and

tonight and

tonight and
then where I go to the bottom and then

then where I go to the bottom and then

then where I go to the bottom and then
when I shoot out of the top you snap the

when I shoot out of the top you snap the

when I shoot out of the top you snap the
picture but don't be too specific

picture but don't be too specific

picture but don't be too specific
specific about the words cuz we're not

specific about the words cuz we're not

specific about the words cuz we're not
sure what song I can just go habba Hab

sure what song I can just go habba Hab

sure what song I can just go habba Hab
Hab habba that's good best muscle

why were we dropped it was never

why were we dropped it was never
explained never clarified there's uh

explained never clarified there's uh

explained never clarified there's uh
this

poster Tad it's heavy it's been

poster Tad it's heavy it's been
claimed that this is the

claimed that this is the

claimed that this is the
reason the labels were under a lot of

reason the labels were under a lot of

reason the labels were under a lot of
pressure to clean up their act and start

pressure to clean up their act and start

pressure to clean up their act and start
putting warning labels on records you

putting warning labels on records you

putting warning labels on records you
know questionable material we had had

know questionable material we had had

know questionable material we had had
nothing to do with this poster uh it it

nothing to do with this poster uh it it

nothing to do with this poster uh it it
was just the brainchild of somebody who

was just the brainchild of somebody who

was just the brainchild of somebody who
who was working for the promotional

who was working for the promotional

who was working for the promotional
company that promoted the tour but we

company that promoted the tour but we

company that promoted the tour but we
loved it we thought it was a great idea

loved it we thought it was a great idea

loved it we thought it was a great idea
and beautifully executed that was a

and beautifully executed that was a

and beautifully executed that was a
communication error between from what I

communication error between from what I

communication error between from what I
understand between management and the

understand between management and the

understand between management and the
label perhaps uh a

label perhaps uh a

label perhaps uh a
butterfly uh moved its wings in

butterfly uh moved its wings in

butterfly uh moved its wings in
Patagonia and that INF infuenced

Patagonia and that INF infuenced

Patagonia and that INF infuenced
somebody at Giant I and a decision was

somebody at Giant I and a decision was

somebody at Giant I and a decision was
made and we were dropped I I don't know

made and we were dropped I I don't know

made and we were dropped I I don't know
could be anything um the fact is is that

could be anything um the fact is is that

could be anything um the fact is is that
nobody ever explained it to

nobody ever explained it to

nobody ever explained it to
us they cut off tour support and we

us they cut off tour support and we

us they cut off tour support and we
stuck in Europe they pulled the the

stuck in Europe they pulled the the

stuck in Europe they pulled the the
carpet out from under that one we felt

carpet out from under that one we felt

carpet out from under that one we felt
like a curse was kind of like following

like a curse was kind of like following

like a curse was kind of like following
the band like a a dark

the band like a a dark

the band like a a dark
cloud hovering over us all the time and

cloud hovering over us all the time and

cloud hovering over us all the time and
uh that we couldn't escape it and no

uh that we couldn't escape it and no

uh that we couldn't escape it and no
matter what we did that it was cursed

matter what we did that it was cursed

matter what we did that it was cursed
and we're just starting to get the

and we're just starting to get the

and we're just starting to get the
feeling like what the hell is going on

feeling like what the hell is going on

feeling like what the hell is going on
you know it's like you know we're

you know it's like you know we're

you know it's like you know we're
starting to feel like

jinxed yeah he knows his though

jinxed yeah he knows his though
doesn't

he we've been together for quite quite a

he we've been together for quite quite a
while and there was just some tension in

while and there was just some tension in

while and there was just some tension in
the band I can't really explain it

the band I can't really explain it

the band I can't really explain it
except for by saying that well I think

except for by saying that well I think

except for by saying that well I think
musically we're just kind of like Kurt

musically we're just kind of like Kurt

musically we're just kind of like Kurt
and I were wanting to head in a

and I were wanting to head in a

and I were wanting to head in a
different direction and I don't know if

different direction and I don't know if

different direction and I don't know if
Gary really was suited to that he

Gary really was suited to that he

Gary really was suited to that he
probably was I don't think there

probably was I don't think there

probably was I don't think there
was a strange division going on it

was a strange division going on it

was a strange division going on it
wasn't like Gary did anything that

wasn't like Gary did anything that

wasn't like Gary did anything that
warranted being kicked out out it wasn't

warranted being kicked out out it wasn't

warranted being kicked out out it wasn't
like uh he quit in a in a fury and and

like uh he quit in a in a fury and and

like uh he quit in a in a fury and and
Gary was probably the most sane guy out

Gary was probably the most sane guy out

Gary was probably the most sane guy out
of us at the time there's a lot

of us at the time there's a lot

of us at the time there's a lot
of not good drugs going

of not good drugs going

of not good drugs going
on and uh I was personally I can speak

on and uh I was personally I can speak

on and uh I was personally I can speak
for myself I was not the healthiest of

for myself I was not the healthiest of

for myself I was not the healthiest of
mind and body and spirit at the time ktk

mind and body and spirit at the time ktk

mind and body and spirit at the time ktk
kind of lost you

kind of lost you

kind of lost you
know uh touch with being grounded and so

know uh touch with being grounded and so

know uh touch with being grounded and so
did I I was right there with him on that

did I I was right there with him on that

did I I was right there with him on that
Gary would have beers and stuff but he

Gary would have beers and stuff but he

Gary would have beers and stuff but he
wasn't he wasn't really he wasn't into

wasn't he wasn't really he wasn't into

wasn't he wasn't really he wasn't into
smoking Po and and doing drugs and stuff

smoking Po and and doing drugs and stuff

smoking Po and and doing drugs and stuff
he was really a Gary is a good person

he was really a Gary is a good person

he was really a Gary is a good person
it's a really important and strong role

it's a really important and strong role

it's a really important and strong role
that Gary provided everyone knew that

that Gary provided everyone knew that

that Gary provided everyone knew that
everyone in the other bands in the music

everyone in the other bands in the music

everyone in the other bands in the music
Community knew that Gary keeps those

Community knew that Gary keeps those

Community knew that Gary keeps those
guys sane and he's the guy who know you

guys sane and he's the guy who know you

guys sane and he's the guy who know you
know who who directs him and keeps him f

know who who directs him and keeps him f

know who who directs him and keeps him f
Focus uh I tend to sort of blame myself

Focus uh I tend to sort of blame myself

Focus uh I tend to sort of blame myself
that maybe if IID worked harder uh could

that maybe if IID worked harder uh could

that maybe if IID worked harder uh could
have smoed things over and and gotten

have smoed things over and and gotten

have smoed things over and and gotten
things together um and and I really

things together um and and I really

things together um and and I really
regret it uh it's one of those things

regret it uh it's one of those things

regret it uh it's one of those things
that you you can't fix you you can't

that you you can't fix you you can't

that you you can't fix you you can't
turn back the clock I wish it hadn't

turn back the clock I wish it hadn't

turn back the clock I wish it hadn't
have happened I wish that that somehow

have happened I wish that that somehow

have happened I wish that that somehow
we could have kept Gary in the band and

we could have kept Gary in the band and

we could have kept Gary in the band and
and that he was a part of that infrared

and that he was a part of that infrared

and that he was a part of that infrared
writing Hood

recording well infrared Riding Hood was

recording well infrared Riding Hood was
uh the first record that we went as a

uh the first record that we went as a

uh the first record that we went as a
three-piece that record was worth things

three-piece that record was worth things

three-piece that record was worth things
kind of got I'm surprised that some of

kind of got I'm surprised that some of

kind of got I'm surprised that some of
us made it through that people were

us made it through that people were

us made it through that people were
getting whacked out of their

getting whacked out of their

getting whacked out of their
minds oh man what's up Ben

minds oh man what's up Ben

minds oh man what's up Ben
busted right the infrared sessions were

busted right the infrared sessions were

busted right the infrared sessions were
uh quite interesting me because their

uh quite interesting me because their

uh quite interesting me because their
manager Johnny Z actually flew out from

manager Johnny Z actually flew out from

manager Johnny Z actually flew out from
New York and spent some time with us in

New York and spent some time with us in

New York and spent some time with us in
the studio Josh wanted to add some

the studio Josh wanted to add some

the studio Josh wanted to add some
industrial sounds to one of the songs so

industrial sounds to one of the songs so

industrial sounds to one of the songs so
uh in those days you know I I also

uh in those days you know I I also

uh in those days you know I I also
managed Ministry Al jensson and and they

managed Ministry Al jensson and and they

managed Ministry Al jensson and and they
just like some of the effects that

just like some of the effects that

just like some of the effects that
Ministry used etc etc so instead of

Ministry used etc etc so instead of

Ministry used etc etc so instead of
sampling it they they wanted to get real

sampling it they they wanted to get real

sampling it they they wanted to get real
sound so we're banging on stuff and

sound so we're banging on stuff and

sound so we're banging on stuff and
keeping a beat and I think they gave me

keeping a beat and I think they gave me

keeping a beat and I think they gave me
a pipe to play

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really good drummer psychopath from hell

really good drummer psychopath from hell

really good drummer psychopath from hell
man he was a real psycho but he's a

man he was a real psycho but he's a

man he was a real psycho but he's a
great guy see cuz Tad was into that he

great guy see cuz Tad was into that he

great guy see cuz Tad was into that he
was like I was like what do you think if

was like I was like what do you think if

was like I was like what do you think if
I get these pieces of metal and I smash

I get these pieces of metal and I smash

I get these pieces of metal and I smash
them wasn't just like we're like banging

them wasn't just like we're like banging

them wasn't just like we're like banging
on and oh that's great you know it

on and oh that's great you know it

on and oh that's great you know it
was it had a method to it and there was

was it had a method to it and there was

was it had a method to it and there was
a a desired end effect that we were

a a desired end effect that we were

a a desired end effect that we were
going for the way we wrote that record

going for the way we wrote that record

going for the way we wrote that record
was a direct result

was a direct result

was a direct result
of not wanting to

of not wanting to

of not wanting to
be

be

be
overly analytic about the music it

overly analytic about the music it

overly analytic about the music it
started off with the first song the way

started off with the first song the way

started off with the first song the way
we wrote that record Kurt had that bass

we wrote that record Kurt had that bass

we wrote that record Kurt had that bass
RI that

went and I just started playing the

went and I just started playing the
drums and that whole record was written

drums and that whole record was written

drums and that whole record was written
like that somebody just started playing

like that somebody just started playing

like that somebody just started playing
a riff and we wrote and we not once we

a riff and we wrote and we not once we

a riff and we wrote and we not once we
never went okay this goes four times how

never went okay this goes four times how

never went okay this goes four times how
okay how many times are we going to do

okay how many times are we going to do

okay how many times are we going to do
this when are we going to change that

this when are we going to change that

this when are we going to change that
nothing was said nobody does that you

nothing was said nobody does that you

nothing was said nobody does that you
know nobody makes a record and doesn't

know nobody makes a record and doesn't

know nobody makes a record and doesn't
talk about how many times you're going

talk about how many times you're going

talk about how many times you're going
to do this part we're going to put this

to do this part we're going to put this

to do this part we're going to put this
change I've got this riff nobody said

change I've got this riff nobody said

change I've got this riff nobody said
anything there was can you imagine what

anything there was can you imagine what

anything there was can you imagine what
I'm saying it's like that's how together

I'm saying it's like that's how together

I'm saying it's like that's how together
uh we were at that point and we just

uh we were at that point and we just

uh we were at that point and we just
went in and did that record and and it

went in and did that record and and it

went in and did that record and and it
really was that and I thought that that

really was that and I thought that that

really was that and I thought that that
record was so great because we did that

record was so great because we did that

record was so great because we did that
and that meant how tight we

were there's kind of a pop aesthetic

were there's kind of a pop aesthetic
behind this record uh a lot of the songs

behind this record uh a lot of the songs

behind this record uh a lot of the songs
are very catchy kind of Alla eight-way

are very catchy kind of Alla eight-way

are very catchy kind of Alla eight-way
Santa but there's also some some some

Santa but there's also some some some

Santa but there's also some some some
very heavy happening too you know

very heavy happening too you know

very heavy happening too you know
the stuff that Tad was doing uh near the

the stuff that Tad was doing uh near the

the stuff that Tad was doing uh near the
end of their career was the best Tad

end of their career was the best Tad

end of their career was the best Tad
stuff of

stuff of

stuff of
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all I want to

all I want to
go bring it

back

back
sometimes sometimes

sometimes sometimes

sometimes sometimes
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yourself

yourself
fre try not feel

fre try not feel

fre try not feel
inside that I couldn't

inside that I couldn't

inside that I couldn't
hide but I did forget to

hide but I did forget to

hide but I did forget to
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oh

the I was always amazed I mean how the

the I was always amazed I mean how the
do you go and make a record and get

do you go and make a record and get

do you go and make a record and get
that gacked out of your mind and

that gacked out of your mind and

that gacked out of your mind and
actually have anything come out and then

actually have anything come out and then

actually have anything come out and then
you hear infrared and it's a brilliant

you hear infrared and it's a brilliant

you hear infrared and it's a brilliant
record

uh basically the a anr rep loved them

uh basically the a anr rep loved them
and thought Ted was the next big thing

and thought Ted was the next big thing

and thought Ted was the next big thing
and they hired Ted because they signed

and they hired Ted because they signed

and they hired Ted because they signed
Ted because of it the anr person got

Ted because of it the anr person got

Ted because of it the anr person got
fired and all of her bands got dropped

fired and all of her bands got dropped

fired and all of her bands got dropped
literally the week the record was going

literally the week the record was going

literally the week the record was going
to the stores they were trying to find

to the stores they were trying to find

to the stores they were trying to find
who to talk to about

who to talk to about

who to talk to about
us and they they called up and they and

us and they they called up and they and

us and they they called up and they and
they said which band you know and that's

they said which band you know and that's

they said which band you know and that's
kind of a bad sign at that point you

kind of a bad sign at that point you

kind of a bad sign at that point you
know well we don't know who you should

know well we don't know who you should

know well we don't know who you should
talk to about that you know and when an

talk to about that you know and when an

talk to about that you know and when an
anr person gets terminated at a major

anr person gets terminated at a major

anr person gets terminated at a major
label all of their bands get act

label all of their bands get act

label all of their bands get act
regardless of quality nobody's even

regardless of quality nobody's even

regardless of quality nobody's even
listening to the music at that point

listening to the music at that point

listening to the music at that point
it's strictly a matter of bureaucratic

it's strictly a matter of bureaucratic

it's strictly a matter of bureaucratic
musical chairs shifting and the bands

musical chairs shifting and the bands

musical chairs shifting and the bands
are often the unwitting victims of this

are often the unwitting victims of this

are often the unwitting victims of this
and it it has nothing to do with music

and it it has nothing to do with music

and it it has nothing to do with music
music uh chances are nobody even

music uh chances are nobody even

music uh chances are nobody even
listened to the Tad record we found out

listened to the Tad record we found out

listened to the Tad record we found out
in retrospect that a whole whopping 650

in retrospect that a whole whopping 650

in retrospect that a whole whopping 650
bucks was spent on Advertising for

bucks was spent on Advertising for

bucks was spent on Advertising for
infrared Riding Hood the label just

infrared Riding Hood the label just

infrared Riding Hood the label just
writes off the money it's a loss they

writes off the money it's a loss they

writes off the money it's a loss they
deducted from their taxes or whatever

deducted from their taxes or whatever

deducted from their taxes or whatever
they do so infrared writing Hood as far

they do so infrared writing Hood as far

they do so infrared writing Hood as far
as I can see just became a tax loss for

as I can see just became a tax loss for

as I can see just became a tax loss for
somebody and uh the record showing up in

somebody and uh the record showing up in

somebody and uh the record showing up in
the record of the month

the record of the month

the record of the month
club you know buy 10 disc for 5 cents

club you know buy 10 disc for 5 cents

club you know buy 10 disc for 5 cents
the 11th it's the 11th our record's out

the 11th it's the 11th our record's out

the 11th it's the 11th our record's out
and you know what shut up one

and you know what shut up one

and you know what shut up one
bit of advertising out there for us the

bit of advertising out there for us the

bit of advertising out there for us the
record label said they were going to do

record label said they were going to do

record label said they were going to do
it they up up number one

it they up up number one

it they up up number one
strike

strike

strike
one does anybody care I don't think

one does anybody care I don't think

one does anybody care I don't think
so they basically just wanted the band

so they basically just wanted the band

so they basically just wanted the band
to go away at a lecture they really

to go away at a lecture they really

to go away at a lecture they really
wanted tar to go away they were scared

wanted tar to go away they were scared

wanted tar to go away they were scared
of tar they didn't know what to make of

of tar they didn't know what to make of

of tar they didn't know what to make of
them somewhere there's a warehouse full

them somewhere there's a warehouse full

them somewhere there's a warehouse full
of those records I I don't know where it

of those records I I don't know where it

of those records I I don't know where it
is that was pretty much the end of Tad's

is that was pretty much the end of Tad's

is that was pretty much the end of Tad's
label career they do this thing where

label career they do this thing where

label career they do this thing where
it's like well you know we won't give it

it's like well you know we won't give it

it's like well you know we won't give it
to you so you could do something with it

to you so you could do something with it

to you so you could do something with it
we're just going to it's like a little

we're just going to it's like a little

we're just going to it's like a little
kid that uh you know um that you don't

kid that uh you know um that you don't

kid that uh you know um that you don't
want to play Legos his way so he's going

want to play Legos his way so he's going

want to play Legos his way so he's going
to grab all of his Legos and go home and

to grab all of his Legos and go home and

to grab all of his Legos and go home and
you when we got dropped from giant

you when we got dropped from giant

you when we got dropped from giant
Josh bounced back like the rest of us

Josh bounced back like the rest of us

Josh bounced back like the rest of us
did but when we got dropped to second

did but when we got dropped to second

did but when we got dropped to second
time uh you know it was a little too

time uh you know it was a little too

time uh you know it was a little too
much and I think it was a little too

much and I think it was a little too

much and I think it was a little too
much for all of us um but I think he

much for all of us um but I think he

much for all of us um but I think he
reacted the quickest I think it's

reacted the quickest I think it's

reacted the quickest I think it's
because you know I wasn't the healthiest

because you know I wasn't the healthiest

because you know I wasn't the healthiest
person so I just decided to just to just

person so I just decided to just to just

person so I just decided to just to just
walk away from it instead of deal with

walk away from it instead of deal with

walk away from it instead of deal with
it I'm a lot different person now than

it I'm a lot different person now than

it I'm a lot different person now than
that I deal with my problems you know

that I deal with my problems you know

that I deal with my problems you know
instead of run from them but back then I

instead of run from them but back then I

instead of run from them but back then I
I did a lot of that I would just run

I did a lot of that I would just run

I did a lot of that I would just run
from problems and I I attribute that to

from problems and I I attribute that to

from problems and I I attribute that to
you know substance abuse we were on a

you know substance abuse we were on a

you know substance abuse we were on a
constant roller coaster ride emotionally

constant roller coaster ride emotionally

constant roller coaster ride emotionally
psychologically physically why not

psychologically physically why not

psychologically physically why not
destroy

destroy

destroy
guitars why not light off

guitars why not light off

guitars why not light off
explosives why

explosives why

explosives why
not destroy television sets why not uh

not destroy television sets why not uh

not destroy television sets why not uh
do this why not do that I mean it seemed

do this why not do that I mean it seemed

do this why not do that I mean it seemed
like we had nothing to lose I mean uh

like we had nothing to lose I mean uh

like we had nothing to lose I mean uh
when you've lost everything already what

when you've lost everything already what

when you've lost everything already what
else have you got to

else have you got to

else have you got to
lose nothing I I was locked up in a room

lose nothing I I was locked up in a room

lose nothing I I was locked up in a room
that I was renting in West Seattle and

that I was renting in West Seattle and

that I was renting in West Seattle and
I'd never go out I I can say that uh

I'd never go out I I can say that uh

I'd never go out I I can say that uh
when it came to drug abuse uh I I took

when it came to drug abuse uh I I took

when it came to drug abuse uh I I took
it very seriously and uh explored it

it very seriously and uh explored it

it very seriously and uh explored it
very thoroughly backstage every every

very thoroughly backstage every every

very thoroughly backstage every every
night you get a a bottle of hard liquor

night you get a a bottle of hard liquor

night you get a a bottle of hard liquor
and a case of beer and as you gain in

and a case of beer and as you gain in

and a case of beer and as you gain in
popularity you get to order what you

popularity you get to order what you

popularity you get to order what you
want backstage and and so there's more

want backstage and and so there's more

want backstage and and so there's more
and more booze all the time and

and more booze all the time and

and more booze all the time and
uh eventually uh you you need something

uh eventually uh you you need something

uh eventually uh you you need something
to get over those hangovers with and so

to get over those hangovers with and so

to get over those hangovers with and so
so something

so something

so something
else always enters the picture I liked

else always enters the picture I liked

else always enters the picture I liked
Coke a lot and I found that I couldn't

Coke a lot and I found that I couldn't

Coke a lot and I found that I couldn't
afford it that much so I went for the

afford it that much so I went for the

afford it that much so I went for the
cheaper version of that which was

cheaper version of that which was

cheaper version of that which was
crystal meth and glass I was taking cash

crystal meth and glass I was taking cash

crystal meth and glass I was taking cash
advances on my credit card to go buy

advances on my credit card to go buy

advances on my credit card to go buy
more and I'd only leave at night you

more and I'd only leave at night you

more and I'd only leave at night you
know I was becoming a

know I was becoming a

know I was becoming a
essentially a addicted vampire I had a

essentially a addicted vampire I had a

essentially a addicted vampire I had a
police scanner that I bought that I'd

police scanner that I bought that I'd

police scanner that I bought that I'd
listen to because I was sure they were

listen to because I was sure they were

listen to because I was sure they were
coming after me someday that's how far

coming after me someday that's how far

coming after me someday that's how far
it went you know it's it's part of the

it went you know it's it's part of the

it went you know it's it's part of the
side of the Seattle music scene that

side of the Seattle music scene that

side of the Seattle music scene that
isn't talked about that isn't So

isn't talked about that isn't So

isn't talked about that isn't So
Glamorous Isn't So Glorious doesn't look

Glamorous Isn't So Glorious doesn't look

Glamorous Isn't So Glorious doesn't look
so good on camera um and you know cost a

so good on camera um and you know cost a

so good on camera um and you know cost a
lot of bands the chance of success and

lot of bands the chance of success and

lot of bands the chance of success and
cost a number of people their lives when

cost a number of people their lives when

cost a number of people their lives when
you've been together for for 10 or 12

you've been together for for 10 or 12

you've been together for for 10 or 12
years years uh you begin to know each

years years uh you begin to know each

years years uh you begin to know each
other on a level that is akin to how a

other on a level that is akin to how a

other on a level that is akin to how a
husband and wife know each other you

husband and wife know each other you

husband and wife know each other you
know you can second guess that person

know you can second guess that person

know you can second guess that person
you know their worst side you know their

you know their worst side you know their

you know their worst side you know their
best side uh and you might be a bit sick

best side uh and you might be a bit sick

best side uh and you might be a bit sick
of that person

of that person

of that person
too he's a lifelong friend and that

too he's a lifelong friend and that

too he's a lifelong friend and that
that's never going to change we've gone

that's never going to change we've gone

that's never going to change we've gone
through a lot together and shared a lot

through a lot together and shared a lot

through a lot together and shared a lot
of things together triumphs as well as

of things together triumphs as well as

of things together triumphs as well as
defeats so that that brings you together

defeats so that that brings you together

defeats so that that brings you together
you know

you know

you know
we're

Team

Team
hello all

hello all

hello all
right what's

right what's

right what's
up Kurt what are you

up Kurt what are you

up Kurt what are you
doing come on in man son of again

doing come on in man son of again

doing come on in man son of again
you were kidding this is a big surprise

you were kidding this is a big surprise

you were kidding this is a big surprise
look at you what are you

you all dressed

you all dressed
up people can be in bands and that all

up people can be in bands and that all

up people can be in bands and that all
they have in common is this uh musical

they have in common is this uh musical

they have in common is this uh musical
Vision but you know I I think that's

Vision but you know I I think that's

Vision but you know I I think that's
where we went a little step further you

where we went a little step further you

where we went a little step further you
know we we love being around each other

know we we love being around each other

know we we love being around each other
you know

they're Legends absolutely and they're

they're Legends absolutely and they're
part of a very vital scene and I think

part of a very vital scene and I think

part of a very vital scene and I think
they are just in my mind always going to

they are just in my mind always going to

they are just in my mind always going to
be seen as as part of the most happening

be seen as as part of the most happening

be seen as as part of the most happening
scene that uh s's experienced before

scene that uh s's experienced before

scene that uh s's experienced before
since what Tad accomplished was

since what Tad accomplished was

since what Tad accomplished was
certainly Head and Shoulders above what

certainly Head and Shoulders above what

certainly Head and Shoulders above what
95% of rock bands accomplished

95% of rock bands accomplished

95% of rock bands accomplished
he wasn't selling records because of

he wasn't selling records because of

he wasn't selling records because of
image he was selling records because of

image he was selling records because of

image he was selling records because of
content whether anybody makes it in this

content whether anybody makes it in this

content whether anybody makes it in this
business is largely dependent on factors

business is largely dependent on factors

business is largely dependent on factors
that have nothing to do with music

that have nothing to do with music

that have nothing to do with music
nothing whatsoever to do with music and

nothing whatsoever to do with music and

nothing whatsoever to do with music and
a big chunk of it is luck and um random

a big chunk of it is luck and um random

a big chunk of it is luck and um random
factors did not operate in their favor

factors did not operate in their favor

factors did not operate in their favor
so I think there still is a life to this

so I think there still is a life to this

so I think there still is a life to this
music

music

music
um but you know Tad's story

um but you know Tad's story

um but you know Tad's story
unfortunately and sadly is always going

unfortunately and sadly is always going

unfortunately and sadly is always going
to be a story of uh what could have been

to be a story of uh what could have been

to be a story of uh what could have been
as opposed to what was and that's going

as opposed to what was and that's going

as opposed to what was and that's going
to be part of their

legacy the thing I'm most proud about

legacy the thing I'm most proud about
the music is that we always stuck to

the music is that we always stuck to

the music is that we always stuck to
what we believed in and we weren't

what we believed in and we weren't

what we believed in and we weren't
shifting what we were doing to appease

shifting what we were doing to appease

shifting what we were doing to appease
anybody or to look good you know we we

anybody or to look good you know we we

anybody or to look good you know we we
let it all hang out right from the

let it all hang out right from the

let it all hang out right from the
beginning you

know and and just being being full of

know and and just being being full of
integrity and uh and and keeping the

integrity and uh and and keeping the

integrity and uh and and keeping the
course and doing what we had no choice

course and doing what we had no choice

course and doing what we had no choice
in doing because we wanted to do it and

in doing because we wanted to do it and

in doing because we wanted to do it and
that's what we were you at the time it's

that's what we were you at the time it's

that's what we were you at the time it's
right I like to think that uh you know

right I like to think that uh you know

right I like to think that uh you know
the music's going to live on and that

the music's going to live on and that

the music's going to live on and that
hopefully it won't come to a point where

hopefully it won't come to a point where

hopefully it won't come to a point where
we have to die for people to figure that

we have to die for people to figure that

we have to die for people to figure that
out

out

out
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I'm waiting for a
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and you don't have to

and you don't have to

and you don't have to
stand stand by

stand stand by

stand stand by
me and you don't have to

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