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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,051 --> 00:00:12,638 The trouble with getting hired to do something 2 00:00:12,722 --> 00:00:15,808 is I don't know what the film's about. Yeah. 3 00:00:15,892 --> 00:00:17,769 You know, is it about what a stud Paul Newman is? 4 00:00:17,852 --> 00:00:21,355 Is it about how women get demolished 5 00:00:21,439 --> 00:00:22,857 by a male-driven culture? 6 00:00:22,940 --> 00:00:24,567 Yeah. ...loving marriages? 7 00:00:24,650 --> 00:00:28,112 Yes. Is it a movie about Paul or Joanne or... 8 00:00:28,196 --> 00:00:29,655 And it reminds me of this thing 9 00:00:29,739 --> 00:00:31,115 that you said to me a while ago 10 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:33,326 when I was asking for relationship advice, 11 00:00:33,409 --> 00:00:35,995 which was that in relationships, 12 00:00:36,078 --> 00:00:37,413 there's always a third person, 13 00:00:37,497 --> 00:00:40,583 and the third person is the relationship. 14 00:00:40,666 --> 00:00:43,503 It just creates this different person 15 00:00:43,586 --> 00:00:45,046 that is the two people together. 16 00:00:45,129 --> 00:00:48,841 And I wonder if the movie is about if, you know, 17 00:00:48,925 --> 00:00:50,593 if you can see it as easier to make 18 00:00:50,676 --> 00:00:52,011 being about one person. 19 00:00:52,094 --> 00:00:55,473 If it's about that person, the person that was... 20 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:58,184 [ Speaks indistinctly ] What? 21 00:00:58,267 --> 00:01:00,353 I think that's what I should do. 22 00:01:00,436 --> 00:01:02,688 [ Laughs ] 23 00:01:02,772 --> 00:01:08,945 ♪♪ 24 00:01:09,028 --> 00:01:11,197 Woman: "Sometimes a Great Notion." 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,032 This was out on the set. 26 00:01:13,115 --> 00:01:15,409 Paul inherited this film. 27 00:01:15,493 --> 00:01:17,286 He was acting in it, 28 00:01:17,370 --> 00:01:19,789 and then they fired the director, 29 00:01:19,872 --> 00:01:22,333 and he had to take over direction. 30 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:27,213 ♪♪ 31 00:01:27,296 --> 00:01:31,968 ♪♪ 32 00:01:32,051 --> 00:01:34,053 Clooney: "'Sometimes a Great Notion' 33 00:01:34,136 --> 00:01:36,639 was a bad, unsettled time. 34 00:01:38,224 --> 00:01:39,600 I was warring with everybody. 35 00:01:39,684 --> 00:01:40,977 I was warring with my agent. 36 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:43,396 I was warring with Universal. 37 00:01:43,479 --> 00:01:47,567 And I was going through difficult times with Joanne. 38 00:01:47,650 --> 00:01:50,069 And I had too much pressure on me. 39 00:01:50,152 --> 00:01:53,739 I was drinking much too hard." 40 00:01:53,823 --> 00:01:55,283 Got a beer? 41 00:01:55,366 --> 00:01:58,703 [ Indistinct conversations ] 42 00:01:58,786 --> 00:02:01,664 He was drinking so much, and he was so tired. 43 00:02:01,747 --> 00:02:02,999 Directing and acting. 44 00:02:03,082 --> 00:02:04,667 That he would finish, look at the rushes, 45 00:02:04,750 --> 00:02:07,461 and then down six to eight martinis. 46 00:02:07,545 --> 00:02:11,549 ♪♪ 47 00:02:11,632 --> 00:02:13,968 Hamilton: "I was here in New York, and I got a call from Paul 48 00:02:14,051 --> 00:02:16,721 saying that, you know, 'Sometimes a Great Notion' 49 00:02:16,804 --> 00:02:20,516 was totally out of control, that he'd taken over directing. 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,019 And he wondered if I could come out there 51 00:02:23,102 --> 00:02:25,271 and just give him a hand." 52 00:02:27,815 --> 00:02:29,984 "He was really drinking a lot." 53 00:02:32,403 --> 00:02:34,238 "I asked him how much he drank. 54 00:02:34,322 --> 00:02:36,449 I remember him telling me. 55 00:02:36,532 --> 00:02:40,286 Hmm. A staggering amount." 56 00:02:40,369 --> 00:02:41,871 George arrives and finds Paul 57 00:02:41,954 --> 00:02:44,040 basically drinking himself to death. 58 00:02:44,123 --> 00:02:45,291 And George Roy Hill 59 00:02:45,374 --> 00:02:46,709 was a pretty heavy drinker himself. 60 00:02:46,792 --> 00:02:48,628 Yeah. I mean, that's like Willie Nelson telling you 61 00:02:48,711 --> 00:02:50,379 you're smoking too much grass, you know? 62 00:02:50,463 --> 00:02:53,633 You know you're in trouble when he's worried about you. 63 00:02:53,716 --> 00:02:57,678 Hamilton: "Paul is a very angry man. He's frustrated. 64 00:02:57,762 --> 00:02:59,931 But anger is just another form of being alive. 65 00:03:00,014 --> 00:03:02,892 I mean, I think you have to be angry in order to live. 66 00:03:02,975 --> 00:03:05,937 You can't just lie back and let things roll over you. 67 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:10,024 and Paul doesn't. He is a principled man. 68 00:03:10,107 --> 00:03:13,653 And to be a principled man, you've got to be angry." 69 00:03:13,736 --> 00:03:16,364 [ Chain-saw motor revving ] 70 00:03:19,075 --> 00:03:21,035 Hey! You stop -- 71 00:03:21,118 --> 00:03:27,667 ♪♪ 72 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:30,294 Clooney: "A thick skin had to be selected. 73 00:03:30,378 --> 00:03:33,381 You have to control what you're going to allow to get to you 74 00:03:33,464 --> 00:03:35,007 and what you're not. 75 00:03:35,091 --> 00:03:37,510 That's probably the reason I drank as much as I did." 76 00:03:37,593 --> 00:03:39,679 You bastard! That was my daddy's desk. 77 00:03:43,057 --> 00:03:45,267 Man: "I don't know if I should say this. 78 00:03:45,351 --> 00:03:49,188 You decide if you want to, you know, deal with it. 79 00:03:49,271 --> 00:03:51,023 But he had one family with Joanne 80 00:03:51,107 --> 00:03:52,358 and these little princesses 81 00:03:52,441 --> 00:03:53,985 living in this incredible mansion 82 00:03:54,068 --> 00:03:56,696 on the other side of town was this house in the Valley 83 00:03:56,779 --> 00:04:00,700 with, you know, two other girls, you know, a boy. 84 00:04:00,783 --> 00:04:04,453 I always felt -- I don't have any reason to feel this. 85 00:04:04,537 --> 00:04:06,038 I don't have any information. 86 00:04:06,122 --> 00:04:10,042 But I always felt I was projected into this situation, 87 00:04:10,126 --> 00:04:11,752 that it was -- 88 00:04:11,836 --> 00:04:16,340 If it was me, I would be terribly guilty." 89 00:04:18,217 --> 00:04:20,052 Poltermann: "So, Paul, what made your divorce 90 00:04:20,136 --> 00:04:22,722 from Jackie so brutal? 91 00:04:22,805 --> 00:04:25,057 50% of the American population is --" 92 00:04:25,141 --> 00:04:29,145 Clooney: "Because it didn't have any class, Stewart." 93 00:04:29,228 --> 00:04:30,730 "How so?" 94 00:04:30,813 --> 00:04:33,441 "It didn't take the parties that we're gonna be injured aside 95 00:04:33,524 --> 00:04:37,820 and give them comfort... by explanation." 96 00:04:40,489 --> 00:04:43,743 "By telling them what was happening?" 97 00:04:43,826 --> 00:04:47,747 "Yeah, but in a way that they would understand it. 98 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:49,415 But that's because I didn't get it." 99 00:04:49,498 --> 00:04:54,086 It's not because I wouldn't have done it had I gotten it." 100 00:04:54,170 --> 00:04:57,423 "How would you explain it now?" 101 00:04:57,506 --> 00:04:59,759 "Well, I don't know, Stewart. 102 00:04:59,842 --> 00:05:01,969 I couldn't create the scene." 103 00:05:04,972 --> 00:05:08,017 [ Men singing drunkenly ] 104 00:05:10,561 --> 00:05:12,563 Whoa! 105 00:05:15,691 --> 00:05:17,902 That was a very good landing. 106 00:05:17,985 --> 00:05:20,196 You do a job, man. 107 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,074 [ Laughter ] 108 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:26,827 Linney: "One night, he just fell out of bed. 109 00:05:26,911 --> 00:05:29,080 I found him on the floor with his head bleeding. 110 00:05:29,163 --> 00:05:31,457 And I came as close as I ever had to saying, 111 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:33,876 'Well, this is it.'" 112 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:36,128 Sorry, but I was forced to kick the crap... 113 00:05:36,212 --> 00:05:39,799 "I just can't stand it. I just can't stand it." 114 00:05:39,882 --> 00:05:41,133 Come on up. I forgot something. 115 00:05:41,217 --> 00:05:42,760 "It was one of many, many times." 116 00:05:42,843 --> 00:05:44,470 Hank. Let go of me, Leeland! 117 00:05:44,553 --> 00:05:45,888 Hank, co-- 118 00:05:49,016 --> 00:05:49,975 Are you all right? 119 00:05:50,059 --> 00:05:53,896 Whee! Whee, whee. 120 00:05:56,524 --> 00:06:00,903 When I dream, I'm still a child. 121 00:06:02,655 --> 00:06:06,200 I can run, I can skate. 122 00:06:06,283 --> 00:06:09,537 Last night, I held hands 123 00:06:09,620 --> 00:06:11,330 with the boy who sat behind me 124 00:06:11,413 --> 00:06:13,207 in Miss Tristrum's class. 125 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:17,378 And I woke up, and I was so heartbroken. 126 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,215 I'm an old woman. 127 00:06:21,298 --> 00:06:23,175 Oh. 128 00:06:23,259 --> 00:06:27,346 I won't even dignify that with a comment. 129 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:29,181 My God, you're a spring chicken. 130 00:06:29,265 --> 00:06:33,310 You got your whole life ahead of you yet. 131 00:06:33,394 --> 00:06:36,021 It'll go by like a weekend. 132 00:06:36,105 --> 00:06:39,692 There's no time for anything. 133 00:06:39,775 --> 00:06:41,861 You know, sometimes I stand in the middle of my room 134 00:06:41,944 --> 00:06:43,362 and I wonder what I'm doing here 135 00:06:43,445 --> 00:06:45,072 with, uh, with the scissors in my hand. 136 00:06:45,156 --> 00:06:47,158 The whole morning goes by, 137 00:06:47,241 --> 00:06:48,367 and all I've done 138 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:50,703 is take the stockings out of the drawer. 139 00:06:50,786 --> 00:06:51,871 [ Sniffles ] 140 00:06:51,954 --> 00:06:53,789 Listen. 141 00:06:53,873 --> 00:06:56,667 They give you a cupful of time, 142 00:06:56,750 --> 00:06:58,711 you drink it or you spill it on the floor. 143 00:06:58,794 --> 00:07:01,505 You think time cares what you do? 144 00:07:03,716 --> 00:07:05,467 That won't have to be me. 145 00:07:05,551 --> 00:07:07,261 Got everything? Yeah. 146 00:07:09,597 --> 00:07:12,016 Clea: She got so upset with him 147 00:07:12,099 --> 00:07:16,395 that she put us all in the car and drove us out to Malibu. 148 00:07:16,478 --> 00:07:21,150 And I mean, basically left him and said, "I'm done." 149 00:07:22,234 --> 00:07:25,404 Ethan: He shows up at this house and knocks on the door 150 00:07:25,487 --> 00:07:27,573 and all his kids are inside and she's there and she says, 151 00:07:27,656 --> 00:07:30,492 "No, this isn't your house. You don't live here. 152 00:07:30,576 --> 00:07:32,119 We live here." 153 00:07:32,203 --> 00:07:35,080 And he says, "I'm -- I'm coming -- coming home." 154 00:07:35,164 --> 00:07:38,751 And she says, "Not unless you quit drinking." 155 00:07:38,834 --> 00:07:43,797 And he's like, "Uh, I don't do well with ultimatums." 156 00:07:43,881 --> 00:07:44,798 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 157 00:07:44,882 --> 00:07:48,093 Clea: And, um, and he slept -- 158 00:07:48,177 --> 00:07:49,720 I don't know if it was, like, overnight 159 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:52,890 one night or two nights or four weeks or what it was. 160 00:07:52,973 --> 00:07:55,601 But he was in the driveway sleeping, 161 00:07:55,684 --> 00:07:57,937 and she would not let him in. 162 00:07:58,020 --> 00:08:00,105 She's like, "There's no negotiations. 163 00:08:00,189 --> 00:08:04,068 This is not a negotiation. This is -- this is it." 164 00:08:04,151 --> 00:08:08,697 And finally, I was forced to ring the front doorbell. 165 00:08:08,781 --> 00:08:10,282 She answered the door and I said, 166 00:08:10,366 --> 00:08:12,952 "I have no place to go." [ Chuckles ] 167 00:08:13,035 --> 00:08:14,870 And he says... 168 00:08:14,954 --> 00:08:17,957 "How about hard alcohol? 169 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,458 Only beer?" 170 00:08:19,541 --> 00:08:22,544 And she says, "Okay," and she opens it in. 171 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,257 Melissa: She was also very difficult. 172 00:08:26,340 --> 00:08:28,342 "I really hate this," she complained. 173 00:08:28,425 --> 00:08:30,803 "I hate everything about the promotion tours. 174 00:08:30,886 --> 00:08:33,305 In fact, the only thing I like about acting is acting." 175 00:08:33,389 --> 00:08:36,225 She was mercurial. She was anxiety driven. 176 00:08:36,308 --> 00:08:37,685 She could hold a grudge. 177 00:08:37,768 --> 00:08:40,980 She could be very dark and moody. 178 00:08:41,063 --> 00:08:42,648 She could be really charming. 179 00:08:42,731 --> 00:08:45,234 She was fiercely loving, all these things. 180 00:08:45,317 --> 00:08:47,444 She wasn't easy. 181 00:08:54,535 --> 00:08:56,453 Interviewer: I know it's not -- Well, it has to be a drama. 182 00:08:56,537 --> 00:08:58,998 But what is the message? 183 00:08:59,081 --> 00:09:00,416 Oh, my God. Don't ask me. 184 00:09:00,499 --> 00:09:02,501 What's the picture about? 185 00:09:02,584 --> 00:09:04,169 It's about two hours. 186 00:09:04,253 --> 00:09:07,172 [ Both laughing ] 187 00:09:07,256 --> 00:09:09,466 And he made it work with her, too. 188 00:09:09,550 --> 00:09:13,345 And I think that was part of what he was so intrigued by. 189 00:09:13,429 --> 00:09:15,931 Quinn: And, of course, everyone wanted to know 190 00:09:16,015 --> 00:09:18,684 what it's really like to live with Paul Newman. 191 00:09:18,767 --> 00:09:20,352 "We never discuss each other. 192 00:09:20,436 --> 00:09:23,605 We never discuss each other's film," she would say patiently. 193 00:09:23,689 --> 00:09:25,190 Clea: I mean, they were artists. 194 00:09:25,274 --> 00:09:27,359 And so when they got in a fight, it was a lot of, like, 195 00:09:27,443 --> 00:09:31,864 yelling and throwing, both storming off. 196 00:09:31,947 --> 00:09:35,534 You know, it was very, like, romantic and high-powered. 197 00:09:35,617 --> 00:09:36,869 Quinn: She begged to be off duty 198 00:09:36,952 --> 00:09:38,203 as soon as she introduced her film 199 00:09:38,287 --> 00:09:40,080 at the last stop of the day. 200 00:09:40,164 --> 00:09:43,542 It was 6:30 at the American Film Institute. 201 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:45,210 Then she left at the hotel 202 00:09:45,294 --> 00:09:48,172 where her husband, Paul Newman, was to join her. 203 00:09:48,255 --> 00:09:50,215 No press allowed. 204 00:09:50,299 --> 00:09:52,384 Sally Quinn, CBS News. 205 00:09:52,468 --> 00:09:53,761 Man #2: Winner is Joanne Woodward 206 00:09:53,844 --> 00:09:55,804 for "Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams." 207 00:09:55,888 --> 00:09:57,181 [ Cheers and applause ] 208 00:09:57,264 --> 00:09:59,224 Interviewer #2: There's another very important film, 209 00:09:59,308 --> 00:10:01,852 "Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams." 210 00:10:01,935 --> 00:10:04,229 Woodward: I thought it was some of my best work, 211 00:10:04,313 --> 00:10:06,565 and I think everybody in it was wonderful 212 00:10:06,648 --> 00:10:08,359 and it was not a success. 213 00:10:08,442 --> 00:10:12,029 And I said, "Well, you know, it's all downhill from now 214 00:10:12,112 --> 00:10:16,408 because there are not a lot of parts at that age 215 00:10:16,492 --> 00:10:18,577 or past, sort of the leading lady, 216 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:20,079 unless you're Jane Fonda." 217 00:10:20,162 --> 00:10:21,997 Niven: Joanne, I understand that a former winner 218 00:10:22,081 --> 00:10:23,957 of the Society's Best Actor Award 219 00:10:24,041 --> 00:10:26,418 is beside you waiting to give you yours. 220 00:10:26,502 --> 00:10:30,172 In fact, he'd been beside you for several years. 221 00:10:30,255 --> 00:10:32,424 Paul Newman, please expose yourself. 222 00:10:32,508 --> 00:10:35,010 [ Cheers and applause ] 223 00:10:36,929 --> 00:10:38,055 Good evening, David. 224 00:10:38,138 --> 00:10:40,182 I don't know whether you know it, 225 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:42,935 but it's not -- it's not all that easy 226 00:10:43,018 --> 00:10:47,815 being the husband of a famous motion-picture star. 227 00:10:47,898 --> 00:10:49,733 Joanne. My love. 228 00:10:52,986 --> 00:10:56,073 Clooney: "Joanne and I seem to have grown. 229 00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:58,200 We've moved towards a kind of final solution 230 00:10:58,283 --> 00:11:00,369 to this acting question." 231 00:11:02,538 --> 00:11:06,375 She seemed to have no ego, yet there was a towering ego there, 232 00:11:06,458 --> 00:11:08,210 one moment filled with the sense of worth, 233 00:11:08,293 --> 00:11:11,380 and the next simply shattered. 234 00:11:11,463 --> 00:11:13,215 So when she would lapse, 235 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:15,008 I'd understand and hold her blameless. 236 00:11:15,092 --> 00:11:17,177 And she would understand me in the end." 237 00:11:17,261 --> 00:11:18,637 Wait a minute. Hold it. 238 00:11:20,889 --> 00:11:22,141 Boy, you look terrific. 239 00:11:22,224 --> 00:11:23,851 So do you... 240 00:11:23,934 --> 00:11:27,479 except you got a little gray over your ears there. 241 00:11:27,563 --> 00:11:29,440 That's the only difference. 242 00:11:29,523 --> 00:11:32,109 Everything else works about the same. 243 00:11:33,569 --> 00:11:37,239 Ethan: Rilke said this, "Once the realization is accepted 244 00:11:37,322 --> 00:11:40,993 that even between the closest human beings, 245 00:11:41,076 --> 00:11:44,121 infinite distances continue, 246 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:48,167 a wonderful living side by side can grow, 247 00:11:48,250 --> 00:11:53,922 if they succeed in loving the distance between them 248 00:11:54,006 --> 00:11:57,843 which makes it possible for each to see the other 249 00:11:57,926 --> 00:12:01,597 whole against the sky." 250 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,265 Clooney: "In protecting yourselves 251 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:04,933 and not ruffling one another's feathers, 252 00:12:05,017 --> 00:12:07,227 you can become noncombatants." 253 00:12:07,311 --> 00:12:09,396 I never can get these things off. 254 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,023 Maybe you shouldn't try. 255 00:12:11,106 --> 00:12:12,816 [ Cork pops ] 256 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:15,360 "And you can begin to cater. 257 00:12:15,444 --> 00:12:18,697 There's a sense of catering there sometimes." 258 00:12:20,616 --> 00:12:23,410 "But whatever it is, it's equal. 259 00:12:23,494 --> 00:12:25,370 I simply delight in her." 260 00:12:25,454 --> 00:12:32,085 ♪♪ 261 00:12:32,169 --> 00:12:38,842 ♪♪ 262 00:12:38,926 --> 00:12:45,265 ♪♪ 263 00:12:45,349 --> 00:12:48,852 Linney: "There were times when Paul and I both had to hang in, 264 00:12:48,936 --> 00:12:50,395 when it felt like 265 00:12:50,479 --> 00:12:53,857 that the marriage wouldn't last another day." 266 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,903 "We had to step outside of ourselves 267 00:12:57,986 --> 00:13:01,156 and become aware of three things that were operating -- 268 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,869 my ego, his ego and our ego." 269 00:13:06,828 --> 00:13:09,039 "For the relationship to survive, 270 00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:11,583 we had to put the his and hers on hold 271 00:13:11,667 --> 00:13:13,919 and just go for the our." 272 00:13:14,002 --> 00:13:18,257 ♪♪ 273 00:13:18,340 --> 00:13:22,261 Ethan: I think the documentary should be about the space 274 00:13:22,344 --> 00:13:23,595 between them, 275 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,599 meaning, "I'm centered and safe in my life 276 00:13:27,683 --> 00:13:30,102 and we can both expand." 277 00:13:30,185 --> 00:13:32,437 The love expands you, right? 278 00:13:32,521 --> 00:13:39,361 ♪♪ 279 00:13:39,444 --> 00:13:41,572 Announcer: Gentlemen... 280 00:13:41,655 --> 00:13:44,283 start your engines. 281 00:13:44,366 --> 00:13:46,535 [ Motors revving ] 282 00:13:46,618 --> 00:13:49,246 I wore my Bubba Wallace T-shirt 283 00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:51,123 in honor of Paul today. 284 00:13:51,206 --> 00:13:52,499 I've been trying to learn 285 00:13:52,583 --> 00:13:54,710 about racecar driving, you know? 286 00:13:54,793 --> 00:13:56,003 Yeah. 287 00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:58,088 Because I just don't know anything about it. 288 00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:00,966 Yeah, and I don't know if I even get it. 289 00:14:01,049 --> 00:14:02,342 Interviewer #3: You're quite serious 290 00:14:02,426 --> 00:14:04,720 about wanting to be a racing driver. 291 00:14:04,803 --> 00:14:08,557 Pretty hard to start something like that when you're 47. 292 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,350 Why is dance important? 293 00:14:10,434 --> 00:14:14,146 Somewhere inside myself, for a brief moment, 294 00:14:14,229 --> 00:14:19,234 I am Margot Fonteyn or Cynthia Gregory or... 295 00:14:19,318 --> 00:14:21,236 I mean, there is something that you think, 296 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,946 "That's the way everybody ought to be." 297 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:25,449 Man #2: Newman worked his way into ninth 298 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:27,576 in a credible, if not satisfying, 299 00:14:27,659 --> 00:14:30,162 first championship effort. 300 00:14:30,245 --> 00:14:32,748 The only good thing was the bratwurst. 301 00:14:32,831 --> 00:14:35,542 Field: Paul had the things he loved to do and that was it. 302 00:14:35,626 --> 00:14:39,838 I mean, he wanted to go racing and get me in his freaking car. 303 00:14:39,921 --> 00:14:42,883 I said, "No." [ Laughs ] 304 00:14:42,966 --> 00:14:44,343 but that's what he loved to do. 305 00:14:44,426 --> 00:14:46,178 So he would go and do that. 306 00:14:46,261 --> 00:14:47,971 And Joanne loved her theater. 307 00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:52,893 ♪♪ 308 00:14:52,976 --> 00:14:55,354 Woodward: Who are these people? 309 00:14:55,437 --> 00:14:57,981 Fans. I think they're all fans. 310 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:02,694 I can't believe how often I did this. 311 00:15:02,778 --> 00:15:05,530 I mean, I was at every race. 312 00:15:05,614 --> 00:15:09,576 It's what summer was all about. 313 00:15:09,660 --> 00:15:11,370 It was fun. 314 00:15:11,453 --> 00:15:13,205 Everybody had a good time. 315 00:15:13,288 --> 00:15:14,456 When Paul won, 316 00:15:14,539 --> 00:15:17,042 the kids would get to go on the victory lap 317 00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:19,795 and we used to all pile in the car. 318 00:15:21,213 --> 00:15:24,466 Like being a part of a circus family. 319 00:15:24,549 --> 00:15:26,468 Ashmanskas: "The marriage worked so well 320 00:15:26,551 --> 00:15:29,388 because they have nothing in common. 321 00:15:29,471 --> 00:15:33,016 I mean, they really don't get in each other's way. 322 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,851 The wretched couples, 323 00:15:34,935 --> 00:15:38,021 the couples that share the same desires, 324 00:15:38,105 --> 00:15:40,273 beliefs and hobbies, 325 00:15:40,357 --> 00:15:44,152 that is the couple that is headed towards Reno." 326 00:15:44,236 --> 00:15:47,155 Is there one mutual interest between the two of you? 327 00:15:49,658 --> 00:15:51,243 No. 328 00:15:51,326 --> 00:15:52,953 Do we have mutual interests? 329 00:15:53,036 --> 00:15:55,247 [ Speaks indistinctly ] 330 00:15:55,330 --> 00:15:56,581 Not really. 331 00:15:56,665 --> 00:15:58,917 Man #3: Get the fuck out of there, will you?! 332 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,627 Behind the net! 333 00:16:00,711 --> 00:16:02,879 Hey, Hanrahan, she's a dyke! 334 00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:04,256 I know, I know! 335 00:16:04,339 --> 00:16:06,717 Scorsese: One of the secret sauces to Paul 336 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,929 is his just childish sense of humor. 337 00:16:11,012 --> 00:16:13,598 [ Laughing ] Well, you see it. 338 00:16:13,682 --> 00:16:15,475 You know, that terrific picture, "Slap Shot." 339 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:18,103 Him crazy. [ Laughing ] 340 00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:20,397 [ Organ music playing ] 341 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,442 ♪♪ 342 00:16:23,525 --> 00:16:26,528 Clooney: "I mean, 'Slap Shot' is a magical film. 343 00:16:26,611 --> 00:16:28,363 I don't know what was magical about it, 344 00:16:28,447 --> 00:16:32,033 just original, sideways. 345 00:16:32,117 --> 00:16:35,328 Don't ever play "Lady of Spain" again! 346 00:16:35,412 --> 00:16:38,290 Andretti: "Slap Shot," I can watch that -- I don't know. 347 00:16:38,373 --> 00:16:40,542 [ Laughing ] There was something about it. 348 00:16:40,625 --> 00:16:42,461 That's Paul, right? 349 00:16:42,544 --> 00:16:43,879 You know, you could tell 350 00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:46,047 that he was thoroughly enjoying that performance 351 00:16:46,131 --> 00:16:48,383 because he could just let it go. 352 00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:49,718 Reggie: Keep your heads on the ice out there, will you? 353 00:16:49,801 --> 00:16:52,679 We all know how to play hockey. 354 00:16:52,763 --> 00:16:53,930 Just play it smart. 355 00:16:54,014 --> 00:16:55,599 That's right. Get out there and stick 'em! 356 00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:56,808 Fuck 'em! Christ! 357 00:16:56,892 --> 00:16:58,852 Let's go! Come on! 358 00:16:58,935 --> 00:17:01,646 -Come on. -Let's go now. 359 00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:03,732 We need this win, you know? We got a lot of losses. 360 00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:05,108 Yeah, we got a lot of 'em! 361 00:17:05,192 --> 00:17:09,362 [ Indistinct shouting ] 362 00:17:09,446 --> 00:17:10,781 That's what we're here for, guys, to win. 363 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,367 Play heads up out there. I mean, let's be smart. 364 00:17:14,451 --> 00:17:16,953 Man for man, we're better than any fucking club in the league 365 00:17:17,037 --> 00:17:18,121 if we just put our minds to it. 366 00:17:18,205 --> 00:17:19,164 [ Indistinct shouting ] 367 00:17:19,247 --> 00:17:20,874 No one's better than us! Come on! 368 00:17:20,957 --> 00:17:23,168 Come on, Braden. Our line's starting. 369 00:17:23,251 --> 00:17:26,338 [ Indistinct shouting ] 370 00:17:26,421 --> 00:17:28,882 Ethan: There's this movie called "WUSA." 371 00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:31,301 He was trying to make a political film, 372 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:34,221 and he realized the movie's just too serious. Right. 373 00:17:34,304 --> 00:17:35,472 And then he made a better political film 374 00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:36,598 with "Slap Shot." 375 00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:38,308 "Alright, I'll make people laugh, 376 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:41,520 and I'll make the same point about how fucked up we all are. 377 00:17:41,603 --> 00:17:43,688 I'll be funny while I do it." 378 00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:45,524 Who owns the club anyway? 379 00:17:45,607 --> 00:17:47,859 I don't know. You don't know? 380 00:17:47,943 --> 00:17:51,154 What do you mean? The corporation owns it. 381 00:17:51,238 --> 00:17:52,989 Who cares. You get your check, right? 382 00:17:53,073 --> 00:17:54,407 That's the spirit, Reg. That's it. 383 00:17:54,491 --> 00:17:56,159 Clooney: "'Slap Shot's' a complicated piece. 384 00:17:56,243 --> 00:17:58,078 It has to do with our social system, 385 00:17:58,161 --> 00:18:00,163 using the sports world as a metaphor. 386 00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:01,414 The chiseling, 387 00:18:01,498 --> 00:18:04,209 the team manipulated by shadowy figures 388 00:18:04,292 --> 00:18:05,585 in the background 389 00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:07,587 who had no hands-on connection, no allegiance, 390 00:18:07,671 --> 00:18:12,384 no understanding of that team or the individuals on it." 391 00:18:12,467 --> 00:18:14,928 My accountant tells me I'm better off folding the team, 392 00:18:15,011 --> 00:18:16,221 taking a tax loss. 393 00:18:16,304 --> 00:18:18,890 ♪ I just can't stay away no more ♪ 394 00:18:18,974 --> 00:18:22,060 You mean you could sell us, but you won't? 395 00:18:22,143 --> 00:18:25,856 I could probably sell you, but I can't. 396 00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:28,024 ♪ It's alright and it's coming along ♪ 397 00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:29,734 ♪ We gotta get right back ♪ 398 00:18:29,818 --> 00:18:32,445 Ethan: I mean, at its core, "Slap Shot," 399 00:18:32,529 --> 00:18:36,241 it's a complete indictment of macho assholes 400 00:18:36,324 --> 00:18:37,701 written by a woman. 401 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:39,786 The same woman -- she won the Oscar for "Coming Home." 402 00:18:39,870 --> 00:18:43,331 It ends with them all getting naked, you know, 403 00:18:43,415 --> 00:18:45,542 skating around, like, in brassieres. 404 00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,210 -Right? -Right. 405 00:18:47,294 --> 00:18:48,962 Clooney: "The striptease at the end of the picture, 406 00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:53,008 the mendacity of it all had been so outrageous, so depressing. 407 00:18:53,091 --> 00:18:55,468 Somebody finally had to just take all their clothes off 408 00:18:55,552 --> 00:18:57,137 and piss on them. 409 00:18:57,220 --> 00:19:01,600 It was an unpremeditated scream of protest against the system, 410 00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:05,604 manipulation, all the deals, rituals, and garbage." 411 00:19:05,687 --> 00:19:08,815 [ Burlesque music playing ] 412 00:19:08,899 --> 00:19:14,613 ♪♪ 413 00:19:14,696 --> 00:19:16,239 Cavett: Do you have any desire to be bigger? 414 00:19:16,323 --> 00:19:18,283 And what does it mean to be bigger 415 00:19:18,366 --> 00:19:20,160 in someone's case like yours? 416 00:19:20,243 --> 00:19:22,162 Um...uh, yes. 417 00:19:22,245 --> 00:19:23,663 Bigger? 418 00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:25,624 Bigger? I suppose they mean -- 419 00:19:25,707 --> 00:19:29,085 You know, somewhere along that, I think I would like 420 00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:30,462 to have been, um, 421 00:19:30,545 --> 00:19:36,635 yes, uh, able to do bigger roles. 422 00:19:36,718 --> 00:19:38,136 Superstar films. 423 00:19:38,219 --> 00:19:40,180 Yeah. 424 00:19:40,263 --> 00:19:43,099 Woodward: I really like working on stage best, and I always did. 425 00:19:43,183 --> 00:19:45,518 So it's kind of nice to have gone back to that. 426 00:19:45,602 --> 00:19:48,438 I had never done Shaw, so I did "Candida." 427 00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:52,025 And I'd never done Noel Coward, so I did "Hay Fever." 428 00:19:52,108 --> 00:19:54,152 Loved it. 429 00:19:54,235 --> 00:19:56,696 One of the loveliest things for me to have done 430 00:19:56,780 --> 00:20:00,325 was I did "Glass Menagerie" playing Amanda. 431 00:20:00,408 --> 00:20:03,286 And I had played Laura many, many years before 432 00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:04,496 at the little theater 433 00:20:04,579 --> 00:20:07,374 where I'd started my career as a kid. 434 00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:12,504 Just a little silver slip of a moon. 435 00:20:12,587 --> 00:20:13,797 Ashmanskas: When Joanne says 436 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,007 she doesn't think of herself as a star, 437 00:20:16,091 --> 00:20:19,469 she means that she's not considered 438 00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:21,513 by a studio bankable. 439 00:20:21,596 --> 00:20:22,555 ...is taking a nap. 440 00:20:22,639 --> 00:20:23,848 I support the maid, too! 441 00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:25,767 You wake up Maria, Sonny, I will... 442 00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:28,853 We fired Maria! This is another Maria! 443 00:20:28,937 --> 00:20:31,147 But she is eternally a star 444 00:20:31,231 --> 00:20:34,401 in the sense that she is a famous actress 445 00:20:34,484 --> 00:20:37,195 and one of the best actresses and witness. 446 00:20:37,278 --> 00:20:39,698 She's constantly in demand. 447 00:20:42,242 --> 00:20:47,914 Field: Now, I had had almost an impossible journey 448 00:20:47,998 --> 00:20:50,583 out of situational-comedy television 449 00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:55,005 because I was in a television situation comedy in the '60s, 450 00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:57,549 and you just simply didn't get out of that. 451 00:20:57,632 --> 00:20:59,759 So by the time "Sybil" came along, 452 00:20:59,843 --> 00:21:01,219 no one wanted me there. 453 00:21:01,302 --> 00:21:03,013 You could feel it in the room. 454 00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:04,514 "What, are we wasting our time?" 455 00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:07,017 And I will never forget it. 456 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,728 She was sitting on a kind of armchair. 457 00:21:09,811 --> 00:21:13,648 There was no moment between, "How do you do?" 458 00:21:13,732 --> 00:21:15,817 We were two actors that went...whoosh. 459 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:17,152 [ Crying ] I'm scared. 460 00:21:17,235 --> 00:21:19,821 Sybil? 461 00:21:19,904 --> 00:21:22,574 I hate Sybil. I hate her. 462 00:21:22,657 --> 00:21:23,867 Who are you? 463 00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:25,994 I can do anything. I can do anything I want. 464 00:21:26,077 --> 00:21:27,579 And I'll never forget. 465 00:21:27,662 --> 00:21:32,417 At the end of this one scene, I was on the ground, 466 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:35,378 and I crawled over and I was crying. 467 00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:38,882 And I laid my head on her knee, 468 00:21:38,965 --> 00:21:43,970 and she touched the top of my head very, very slightly. 469 00:21:44,054 --> 00:21:46,765 And I took her -- She had a long scarf on. 470 00:21:46,848 --> 00:21:51,269 I took her scarf and wiped my nose on it. 471 00:21:51,352 --> 00:21:54,564 And I had heard -- Stewart told me 472 00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,150 Joanne had turned to them and said, 473 00:21:57,233 --> 00:22:00,612 "If it isn't Sally, then I'm not Dr. Wilbur." 474 00:22:00,695 --> 00:22:02,405 That's Vanessa, 475 00:22:02,489 --> 00:22:05,825 and she's got all your music for safekeeping. 476 00:22:09,621 --> 00:22:13,124 And i-it changed my life. 477 00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:17,170 And all of a sudden, I saw one ant 478 00:22:17,253 --> 00:22:21,966 who was struggling to pick up this grain of sand 479 00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:25,637 that was far too heavy for her to lift. 480 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,348 And he struggled and he struggled. 481 00:22:28,431 --> 00:22:32,519 And pretty soon, another ant came by 482 00:22:32,602 --> 00:22:35,814 and together, the two of them 483 00:22:35,897 --> 00:22:37,273 lifted the grain of sand 484 00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:39,359 and started to carry it away. 485 00:22:39,442 --> 00:22:41,653 Now, isn't that miraculous, 486 00:22:41,736 --> 00:22:45,323 how much two creatures can accomplish together 487 00:22:45,406 --> 00:22:48,326 when they care about each other? 488 00:22:48,409 --> 00:22:56,209 ♪♪ 489 00:22:56,292 --> 00:22:58,503 Lew: I am required by law to advise you guys 490 00:22:58,586 --> 00:22:59,838 that my hands are registered 491 00:22:59,921 --> 00:23:01,673 in the state of California as lethal weapons. 492 00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:03,007 Do you understand? 493 00:23:03,091 --> 00:23:05,718 Oh, really? Black belt, huh? 494 00:23:05,802 --> 00:23:06,970 You betcha. 495 00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:09,139 A little "Show me yours." 496 00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:13,059 ♪♪ 497 00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:15,353 Uh, it's a different ballgame. 498 00:23:15,437 --> 00:23:17,313 I was just -- I was just kidding. 499 00:23:17,397 --> 00:23:19,607 I'm a brown belt, actually. Where do you want me to sit? 500 00:23:19,691 --> 00:23:22,485 Man #1: That was a very difficult time for him -- 501 00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:24,362 "Drowning Pool." 502 00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:27,198 I remember once we were shooting in New Orleans 503 00:23:27,282 --> 00:23:29,200 and his kids came to visit. 504 00:23:29,284 --> 00:23:31,494 You know, listen, you're gonna have to decide 505 00:23:31,578 --> 00:23:34,205 whether it's useful or not to use this, but -- 506 00:23:34,289 --> 00:23:37,458 Because I think it's terribly personal what I'm about to say, 507 00:23:37,542 --> 00:23:38,877 and I'm not sure I should. 508 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,088 But, you know, I remember his son came to visit 509 00:23:42,172 --> 00:23:44,048 and his two daughters. 510 00:23:44,132 --> 00:23:46,342 And we had the streets roped off, 511 00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:48,094 and we had the police there. 512 00:23:48,178 --> 00:23:51,764 Everybody in the world was out to get a glimpse of Paul Newman, 513 00:23:51,848 --> 00:23:53,016 the giant superstar. 514 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:55,101 And I don't know what caused the argument, 515 00:23:55,185 --> 00:23:57,395 but he had an argument with his son 516 00:23:57,478 --> 00:24:01,399 and his son, in very loud terms so that people could hear, 517 00:24:01,482 --> 00:24:03,276 started putting Paul down. 518 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,111 And I was amazed. 519 00:24:05,195 --> 00:24:07,947 I was just -- I was destroyed. 520 00:24:08,031 --> 00:24:11,284 I mean, I don't think I want to tell you what he said. 521 00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:16,080 It was so personal and private that I just -- 522 00:24:16,164 --> 00:24:17,665 I don't think that I should. 523 00:24:17,749 --> 00:24:20,585 I don't think I would like to remind Paul of it 524 00:24:20,668 --> 00:24:22,795 because it was so disturbed. 525 00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:31,054 ♪♪ 526 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,848 Woodward: Scott sky diving. 527 00:24:37,518 --> 00:24:39,270 Strange. 528 00:24:39,354 --> 00:24:43,775 ♪♪ 529 00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:47,278 I never understood the desire to do this. 530 00:24:47,362 --> 00:24:52,700 ♪♪ 531 00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:54,410 Kazan: "I mean, I've had a lot of people 532 00:24:54,494 --> 00:24:58,248 say to me now, you know, 'What could you have done?' 533 00:24:58,331 --> 00:24:59,832 And there's still a large part of me 534 00:24:59,916 --> 00:25:02,877 that feels I could actually have done something. 535 00:25:02,961 --> 00:25:05,088 And I think that Paul, 536 00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:07,840 for whatever reason of his own, wanted him to be 537 00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:11,135 a macho little boy, an unafraid little boy, 538 00:25:11,219 --> 00:25:15,014 a boy who could drive cars, ride horses, 539 00:25:15,098 --> 00:25:17,976 all which Scott did and all of which Scott 540 00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:22,814 supposedly was crazy to do, but I got to tell you 541 00:25:22,897 --> 00:25:26,818 that there was a large part of me that wonders. 542 00:25:26,901 --> 00:25:29,487 Just as I have always wondered about Paul's desire 543 00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:31,823 to drive cars." 544 00:25:31,906 --> 00:25:35,493 Woodward: There's Paul's car, which was a disaster 545 00:25:35,576 --> 00:25:39,831 and broke down and crashed and did everything except win. 546 00:25:39,914 --> 00:25:45,920 Kazan: "To me, it's like a big man playing a little boy. 547 00:25:46,004 --> 00:25:47,505 That's the way it is." 548 00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:49,966 Announcer #2: ...gain this experience very rapidly. 549 00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:51,801 The more experience he gets on the track, 550 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:53,720 the better he's gonna do. 551 00:25:53,803 --> 00:25:56,431 Poltermann: "And Scott got in trouble 552 00:25:56,514 --> 00:25:57,807 at Valley Forge. 553 00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:00,351 You were so shaken that you couldn't drive down there. 554 00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:02,478 It was the only time I've ever seen you 555 00:26:02,562 --> 00:26:03,813 unable to drive." 556 00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:08,026 Clooney: "He had a girl in his room. 557 00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,528 That's what it was. 558 00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:12,196 It came hot on the heels of a wreck 559 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,489 that he'd had in Connecticut. 560 00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:15,450 He wrecked a car after making promises 561 00:26:15,533 --> 00:26:20,580 and going back to school and he brought chaos again." 562 00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:25,710 "I remember at the end of your talk, 563 00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:28,338 after you came to some sort of an agreement 564 00:26:28,421 --> 00:26:30,923 with the headmaster and Scott hugged you 565 00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:35,094 and you said that you felt forgiven. 566 00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:38,723 It was such a strange reversal that you needed forgiveness, 567 00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:42,685 and he was the one at fault." 568 00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:45,271 "Yeah." 569 00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:50,568 Hamilton: "I developed a real affection for Scott 570 00:26:50,651 --> 00:26:52,904 on the film 'Waldo Pepper.' 571 00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:57,241 He was not particularly well-liked by anybody else." 572 00:26:57,325 --> 00:26:58,493 What are they doing? 573 00:26:58,576 --> 00:27:00,870 "He was alternately brash and reticent, 574 00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:04,248 and there were times when he went a little crazy. 575 00:27:04,332 --> 00:27:08,294 And Paul tried everything he could to straighten him out. 576 00:27:08,378 --> 00:27:10,588 I felt sorry for Scott." 577 00:27:10,671 --> 00:27:11,964 We put her up on the wing -- 578 00:27:12,048 --> 00:27:13,841 Yeah, and she'll fake being afraid. Right. 579 00:27:13,925 --> 00:27:17,678 And the wind will blew her clothes off. Yes! 580 00:27:17,762 --> 00:27:20,890 "He always made a special place for Scott in his mind." 581 00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:23,184 Jesus Christ! It's one of our men. 582 00:27:23,267 --> 00:27:24,727 Oh, God. 583 00:27:24,811 --> 00:27:28,272 [ Camera shutter clicking ] 584 00:27:28,356 --> 00:27:31,150 "But you don't do anybody any good by feeling sorry for them." 585 00:27:33,152 --> 00:27:34,904 Poltermann: "Do you remember anything 586 00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:38,282 about Scott's therapy?" 587 00:27:38,366 --> 00:27:40,326 Kazan: "I remember 588 00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:45,623 that his doctor tried to point out to me 589 00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:48,209 that what I had really better focus my attention on 590 00:27:48,292 --> 00:27:51,421 was Scott's relationship with his father. 591 00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:54,799 He asked Paul if he would be willing to come out 592 00:27:54,882 --> 00:27:58,636 and, um, sit with us. 593 00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:04,225 The doctor had a small, round-like coffee table, 594 00:28:04,308 --> 00:28:06,644 and Paul never met this man before in his life. 595 00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:10,815 He took off his shoes, put his stocking feet up on the table, 596 00:28:10,898 --> 00:28:13,276 and sat back like this." 597 00:28:15,069 --> 00:28:17,196 "The doctor was furious, and he told me afterwards 598 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,949 that Mr. Newman's attitude made it perfectly clear to him 599 00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:21,868 that he was not interested in getting involved 600 00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:24,454 in Scott's therapy in any kind of constructive way." 601 00:28:24,537 --> 00:28:29,208 ♪♪ 602 00:28:29,292 --> 00:28:30,668 "Oh, God. [ Sighs ] 603 00:28:30,751 --> 00:28:32,753 I vowed I would never do this. 604 00:28:32,837 --> 00:28:34,255 [ Chuckles, sniffles ] 605 00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:38,426 Get angry over this lack of coming to grips with Scott." 606 00:28:39,969 --> 00:28:41,179 "I feel very guilty 607 00:28:41,262 --> 00:28:43,306 that I didn't come to grips with Scott." 608 00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:48,686 ♪♪ 609 00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:53,858 ♪♪ 610 00:28:53,941 --> 00:28:56,194 Clooney: "When Jackie says that therapist judged 611 00:28:56,277 --> 00:28:58,404 that I didn't care about Scott because I put my feet 612 00:28:58,488 --> 00:29:01,407 on his desk, I asked him, 'Why did I fly to California? 613 00:29:01,491 --> 00:29:04,035 Why did I come to his office if I didn't care?' 614 00:29:04,118 --> 00:29:06,704 Putting my feet up relaxes my tension 615 00:29:06,787 --> 00:29:08,873 or helps mask my anxiety. 616 00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:10,374 Does that mean I'm any less interested 617 00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:13,878 in what the hell he has to tell me? 618 00:29:13,961 --> 00:29:16,088 How dare he say I don't care? 619 00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:19,217 He was looking at things through the lens of his own information. 620 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:22,303 I am one of those people who don't know things. 621 00:29:22,386 --> 00:29:24,388 My body, my mind just doesn't get them. 622 00:29:24,472 --> 00:29:26,349 There's a lot I don't know about myself. 623 00:29:26,432 --> 00:29:30,603 I know that I could have done better with all my children. 624 00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:31,896 I could have been worse. 625 00:29:31,979 --> 00:29:33,064 I could have put them all in closets 626 00:29:33,147 --> 00:29:34,398 and kicked the shit out of them 627 00:29:34,482 --> 00:29:36,859 or performed incest on them or beat them up. 628 00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:39,278 But I didn't do any of those things." 629 00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:43,324 "I could have been more consistent. 630 00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:44,951 I could have been more understanding. 631 00:29:45,034 --> 00:29:46,452 I could have been more patient. 632 00:29:46,536 --> 00:29:49,372 I could have stopped work or never gone on location." 633 00:29:50,831 --> 00:29:53,960 "I could have done things that might have made them different." 634 00:29:55,836 --> 00:29:59,257 "How different it would have made them, I don't know." 635 00:30:02,218 --> 00:30:05,096 "It just would have had to have been a different person." 636 00:30:05,179 --> 00:30:10,935 ♪♪ 637 00:30:11,018 --> 00:30:13,980 "I was heartened recently when Stephanie remembered 638 00:30:14,063 --> 00:30:16,691 that when she came to visit us one summer, 639 00:30:16,774 --> 00:30:19,485 I would come down when they were in bed and say, 640 00:30:19,569 --> 00:30:21,946 'Oh. What's this? A bag of potatoes?' 641 00:30:22,029 --> 00:30:24,615 Roll them up in blankets and carry them around, 642 00:30:24,699 --> 00:30:25,866 slung over my shoulder. 643 00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:28,411 They played with delight." 644 00:30:30,246 --> 00:30:33,666 "I don't even remember doing those nice things." 645 00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:38,754 "All I remember is telling ghost stories." 646 00:30:40,631 --> 00:30:48,306 ♪♪ 647 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:50,099 Melissa: I'm thinking of a photograph 648 00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:53,311 that's in their apartment in New York, 649 00:30:53,394 --> 00:30:55,771 the gallery wall of photographs jammed in, 650 00:30:55,855 --> 00:30:59,358 and my dad did it all himself with a hammer and nail. 651 00:30:59,442 --> 00:31:01,485 One of them is this picture of my parents 652 00:31:01,569 --> 00:31:05,239 on the Aspetuck River in a yellow raft." 653 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:09,660 "I'm probably not imagining that my dad has a beer. 654 00:31:09,744 --> 00:31:13,581 Pushing off and floating down the Aspetuck together 655 00:31:13,664 --> 00:31:17,835 when they just needed to get away. 656 00:31:17,918 --> 00:31:21,547 It was just those moments which I think, you know, 657 00:31:21,631 --> 00:31:25,635 are the -- really the fabric that held them together." 658 00:31:27,637 --> 00:31:29,555 Fairest voice, softest hair, 659 00:31:29,639 --> 00:31:31,557 eyes the color of the starlit night. 660 00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:36,687 Most beautiful woman in all of creation. 661 00:31:36,771 --> 00:31:37,730 That's who that is. 662 00:31:37,813 --> 00:31:39,899 [ Gobbling ] 663 00:31:39,982 --> 00:31:42,109 Paul: I don't want to get academic about this, 664 00:31:42,193 --> 00:31:43,653 but we have a tendency in this country 665 00:31:43,736 --> 00:31:47,740 to make legends out of a great many characters. 666 00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:50,701 Roy Bean is something of an example of that. 667 00:31:50,785 --> 00:31:53,871 I mean, we make -- They become fairy tales, really. 668 00:31:53,954 --> 00:31:55,623 The ancient Greeks 669 00:31:55,706 --> 00:31:59,418 worshipped at the feet of Aphrodite. 670 00:31:59,502 --> 00:32:02,463 They loved mortal women as well. 671 00:32:02,546 --> 00:32:05,466 The same goes for me. 672 00:32:05,549 --> 00:32:07,259 Cavett: How about the "Time" review? 673 00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:08,678 Paul: Of what? 674 00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:09,970 Of "Judge Roy Bean." They haven't told you about it? 675 00:32:10,054 --> 00:32:12,765 [ Laughter ] 676 00:32:12,848 --> 00:32:15,893 It was a very good review for the bear, 677 00:32:15,976 --> 00:32:18,938 and a rather poor, shabby review for myself. 678 00:32:19,021 --> 00:32:21,065 Hey, you, bear! Hey, bear! 679 00:32:21,148 --> 00:32:23,901 [ Growls ] 680 00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:26,028 I'll have your hand as well! 681 00:32:26,112 --> 00:32:28,239 I know! I know! I know! 682 00:32:28,322 --> 00:32:30,574 Paul: That is kind of interesting 683 00:32:30,658 --> 00:32:31,992 because it really shows 684 00:32:32,076 --> 00:32:34,203 a complete ignorance about acting. 685 00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:35,538 I mean, there is no -- 686 00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,873 Cavett: What? You're better than the bear? 687 00:32:37,957 --> 00:32:39,750 No. 688 00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:42,503 If you -- if you're worth your salt as an actor, 689 00:32:42,586 --> 00:32:45,548 you stand back gracefully and give the bear the scene. 690 00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:47,174 [ Laughter ] 691 00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:49,176 Interviewer #4: Who do you think is the best-adjusted star? 692 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:51,178 Someone who is not a prisoner of fame. 693 00:32:51,262 --> 00:32:52,263 Do you know what I mean? 694 00:32:52,346 --> 00:32:53,764 I think my father's real good. 695 00:32:53,848 --> 00:32:55,141 You think he's really good at it? Yeah. 696 00:32:55,224 --> 00:32:56,517 In what sense? I really do. 697 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,854 He's very down to earth. 698 00:32:59,937 --> 00:33:02,481 He seems to separate his professional life 699 00:33:02,565 --> 00:33:04,734 from his personal life fairly well 700 00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:08,529 and maintain some level of sanity in the middle. 701 00:33:08,612 --> 00:33:11,240 Yeah. Do you think he's proud of you? 702 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:13,659 He loves me. 703 00:33:13,743 --> 00:33:16,203 Yes, I think he is proud of me. 704 00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:20,082 Interviewer #5: You know, when your life 705 00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:21,459 is so much playing roles, 706 00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:24,211 it seems like the idea of being a movie star 707 00:33:24,295 --> 00:33:26,756 is almost like another role to play. 708 00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:29,300 Do you ever feel that? 709 00:33:29,383 --> 00:33:31,135 I feel that, but I don't play it. 710 00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:33,804 That's -- that's a real drag. 711 00:33:33,888 --> 00:33:37,224 Ashmanskas: "In this business, the division of a star 712 00:33:37,308 --> 00:33:39,310 is somebody like Newman. 713 00:33:39,393 --> 00:33:40,728 He says he'll do a picture, 714 00:33:40,811 --> 00:33:43,522 and you can get $20 million to make a picture. 715 00:33:43,606 --> 00:33:45,399 That's a star. 716 00:33:45,483 --> 00:33:47,735 But then at the same time, so is Liberace." 717 00:33:47,818 --> 00:33:50,154 This is it. This is the big one. 718 00:33:50,237 --> 00:33:53,574 This is "The Towering Inferno." 719 00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:55,201 This is the picture, ladies and gentlemen, 720 00:33:55,284 --> 00:33:57,495 that we here at 20th Century Fox believe 721 00:33:57,578 --> 00:33:59,997 will be the biggest grosser of next year. 722 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,584 Bigger, we think and hope, even than "The Poseidon Adventure." 723 00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,337 Man #4: How many fuse terminals did you check? 724 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:08,923 [ Laughing ] 725 00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:14,178 How many fuse terminals did you check? 726 00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:16,680 How many do I have to? 727 00:34:16,764 --> 00:34:19,683 What was it that actually attracted you to this part 728 00:34:19,767 --> 00:34:21,560 in "Towering Inferno"? 729 00:34:21,644 --> 00:34:23,771 Can you talk about that? 730 00:34:23,854 --> 00:34:26,023 There's this interview with Paul where he's -- 731 00:34:26,106 --> 00:34:28,442 They're asking why he's doing "Towering Inferno," right? 732 00:34:28,526 --> 00:34:29,735 It's like, "Look, 733 00:34:29,819 --> 00:34:31,862 it's all anybody wants to make right now." 734 00:34:31,946 --> 00:34:33,781 It's gonna be frightening. 735 00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:40,329 It's original in that it deals with, uh... 736 00:34:40,412 --> 00:34:43,666 The adventure is -- is cloaked in an original envelope, 737 00:34:43,749 --> 00:34:47,461 which is the height and fire. 738 00:34:47,545 --> 00:34:51,882 And you feel him -- and I see it in some of his weirder movies -- 739 00:34:51,966 --> 00:34:54,218 longing to do something original. 740 00:34:54,301 --> 00:34:57,096 [ Bugle playing reveille ] 741 00:34:57,179 --> 00:35:01,725 ♪♪ 742 00:35:01,809 --> 00:35:04,395 Narrator: Robert Altman and Paul Newman are making a film 743 00:35:04,478 --> 00:35:07,064 about the selling of an American legend. 744 00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:08,440 Together, they are re-creating 745 00:35:08,524 --> 00:35:11,902 the greatest Wild West extravaganza ever staged. 746 00:35:11,986 --> 00:35:14,530 Man #5: "He kept saying that he was playing himself. 747 00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,031 He was Buffalo Bill." 748 00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:18,200 That's my star. 749 00:35:18,284 --> 00:35:21,245 He belongs to all of us. 750 00:35:21,328 --> 00:35:23,414 Our star. 751 00:35:23,497 --> 00:35:24,832 America's. 752 00:35:24,915 --> 00:35:27,084 "He kept saying, 'I'm not playing Buffalo Bill. 753 00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:29,628 I'm playing Redford, I'm playing McQueen, 754 00:35:29,712 --> 00:35:31,338 I'm playing Newman. 755 00:35:31,422 --> 00:35:35,467 I'm playing movie stars because that's what Buffalo Bill is.'" 756 00:35:35,551 --> 00:35:38,929 ♪♪ 757 00:35:39,013 --> 00:35:41,765 Paul: I just looked upon him as the first movie star 758 00:35:41,849 --> 00:35:43,475 and went from there. 759 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:47,271 There's nothing the matter with laughing at your heroes. 760 00:35:47,354 --> 00:35:48,689 And the reason that I'm enjoying this, 761 00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:50,274 probably more than any other reason, 762 00:35:50,357 --> 00:35:53,694 is that it really murders me and Redford and Gable 763 00:35:53,777 --> 00:35:57,448 and Tracy and McQueen because there's simply no way 764 00:35:57,531 --> 00:35:59,491 that a human being can sustain 765 00:35:59,575 --> 00:36:02,620 what has become legendary about him over the years. 766 00:36:02,703 --> 00:36:04,496 Man #5: "It's about the beginning of celebrity, 767 00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:06,123 of show business and who makes it out? 768 00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:09,460 The agents, the writers, the PR people, the producers." 769 00:36:09,543 --> 00:36:11,712 Buffalo Bill: You was just in Europe, wasn't you? 770 00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:13,130 Give my regards to the queen? 771 00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:14,798 Yes, they're still talking about you, Bill. 772 00:36:14,882 --> 00:36:16,425 Can't wait for your return. 773 00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:18,552 Bill, this will be our biggest year. 774 00:36:18,636 --> 00:36:20,554 We're gonna gross over $2 million. 775 00:36:20,638 --> 00:36:23,807 Did I ever tell you that I hold the record 776 00:36:23,891 --> 00:36:25,809 for continuous riding of Pony Express, 777 00:36:25,893 --> 00:36:28,646 322 miles in 18 days? 778 00:36:28,729 --> 00:36:29,980 "He was determined to strip 779 00:36:30,064 --> 00:36:32,483 any sense of admiration out of the man, 780 00:36:32,566 --> 00:36:35,069 the frightened man inside the shell of a star, 781 00:36:35,152 --> 00:36:37,529 a man who had tremendous scorn for himself." 782 00:36:37,613 --> 00:36:41,492 Can he ride that horse right? 783 00:36:41,575 --> 00:36:43,410 But if he ain't... 784 00:36:46,997 --> 00:36:50,209 How come all of you took him for a king? 785 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,890 ♪♪ 786 00:37:04,974 --> 00:37:06,850 Considine: Whatever was happening, 787 00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:08,352 at a certain time every night, 788 00:37:08,435 --> 00:37:11,689 I noticed Paul excused himself and disappeared, 789 00:37:11,772 --> 00:37:14,316 and I finally asked him, "Where do you go?" 790 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,155 And where he went was back to his room every single night, 791 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,824 and he'd call Joanne 792 00:37:21,907 --> 00:37:25,744 and he would talk on the phone for, like, an hour to Joanne. 793 00:37:25,828 --> 00:37:27,830 I said, "You do that every day?" 794 00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:29,915 He said, "Every day without fail." 795 00:37:29,999 --> 00:37:33,669 [ Singing operatic aria ] 796 00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:36,922 ♪♪ 797 00:37:37,006 --> 00:37:39,925 Linney: "Dear love, what a terrible invention 798 00:37:40,009 --> 00:37:41,093 of the telephone. 799 00:37:41,176 --> 00:37:42,386 At least for me. 800 00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:44,680 Tonight I felt as though I were intruding 801 00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,765 and that you really didn't want to talk. 802 00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:50,978 I loathe my extrasensory perception. 803 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:53,230 I miss you. 804 00:37:53,313 --> 00:37:55,858 I don't know who you are. 805 00:37:55,941 --> 00:37:58,110 But I miss you anyway. 806 00:37:58,193 --> 00:38:00,487 I just wish you were happy 807 00:38:00,571 --> 00:38:02,906 and that you could say what you feel, 808 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:04,408 not just what you think. 809 00:38:04,491 --> 00:38:07,369 Me." 810 00:38:07,453 --> 00:38:10,497 Clooney: "My love, I'm on board the plane 811 00:38:10,581 --> 00:38:13,167 to Johnstown, Pennsylvania. 812 00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:14,918 I stopped off to the P.J. Clarke's 813 00:38:15,002 --> 00:38:16,628 for a hamburger before embarking, 814 00:38:16,712 --> 00:38:20,591 and I must say I was filled with nostalgia. 815 00:38:20,674 --> 00:38:23,552 I remember sitting on the curbside singing songs 816 00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:24,928 at 2:00 in the morning. 817 00:38:25,012 --> 00:38:27,931 The Third Avenue "L" still in operation. 818 00:38:28,015 --> 00:38:31,602 Your apartment on 51st Street and 11th Street. 819 00:38:31,685 --> 00:38:33,270 Dancing backstage at 'Picnic.' 820 00:38:33,353 --> 00:38:37,483 No one can deny that these moments exist in time and space, 821 00:38:37,566 --> 00:38:39,276 and for all we know, may be recorded 822 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,447 at electric energy for eternity at 180 million miles per second. 823 00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:48,452 "We have access to all kinds of facsimiles. 824 00:38:48,535 --> 00:38:51,497 Tomorrow, next week, next year. 825 00:38:51,580 --> 00:38:52,873 When we get scratchy, 826 00:38:52,956 --> 00:38:55,000 get going with bad solitary dialogs, 827 00:38:55,084 --> 00:38:56,877 we ought to remember that we had the option 828 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,421 to choose good solitary dialogs also. 829 00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:03,342 The years bear witness to that." 830 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:08,013 "Funny thoughts at 22,000 feet. 831 00:39:08,097 --> 00:39:09,306 Kisses. Paul." 832 00:39:09,389 --> 00:39:15,562 ♪♪ 833 00:39:15,646 --> 00:39:18,273 "P.S. Got news this morning. 834 00:39:18,357 --> 00:39:22,820 Scott went on another bad, destructive bender. 835 00:39:22,903 --> 00:39:25,030 Is he gonna survive or not?" 836 00:39:26,907 --> 00:39:29,993 "One wonders." 837 00:39:30,077 --> 00:39:32,830 Now, ladies and gentlemen, here he is, 838 00:39:32,913 --> 00:39:34,665 a chip off the old engine block 839 00:39:34,748 --> 00:39:37,501 of his racing-champion father Paul Newman, 840 00:39:37,584 --> 00:39:40,629 the young actor Scott Newman. 841 00:39:40,712 --> 00:39:42,631 [ Cheers and applause ] 842 00:39:42,714 --> 00:39:49,638 ♪♪ 843 00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:54,143 ♪♪ 844 00:39:54,226 --> 00:39:57,688 [ Engine revving, tires screeching ] 845 00:40:04,987 --> 00:40:07,239 Announcer: Scott Newman has successfully 846 00:40:07,322 --> 00:40:10,159 jumped his sports car over three automobiles. 847 00:40:10,242 --> 00:40:18,542 ♪♪ 848 00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:19,918 ♪♪ 849 00:40:20,002 --> 00:40:22,921 Man #6: The geometric shape of the universe 850 00:40:23,005 --> 00:40:26,592 reflects the scheme of life. 851 00:40:26,675 --> 00:40:30,095 You've been taught that they are the same. 852 00:40:30,179 --> 00:40:33,182 You've been taught that the universe is bounded 853 00:40:33,265 --> 00:40:34,558 by five sides 854 00:40:34,641 --> 00:40:37,895 and that life has but five stages. 855 00:40:37,978 --> 00:40:43,066 Premium the pain of birth. 856 00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:44,568 of the second some. 857 00:40:44,651 --> 00:40:46,486 Clooney: "Someday the force of it's gonna hit me. 858 00:40:46,570 --> 00:40:48,780 All of it. It still hasn't." 859 00:40:50,699 --> 00:40:52,743 "I don't know what will trigger it, 860 00:40:52,826 --> 00:40:54,620 but it's still not resolved." 861 00:40:56,872 --> 00:40:59,333 "I did everything I could to avoid recognizing 862 00:40:59,416 --> 00:41:01,835 that this had happened. 863 00:41:01,919 --> 00:41:03,962 I got a call very early in the morning 864 00:41:04,046 --> 00:41:06,423 and went to some kind of a brunch. 865 00:41:06,506 --> 00:41:08,508 Didn't say anything to anybody." 866 00:41:11,178 --> 00:41:13,764 "The whole thing had been blunted by all those phone calls 867 00:41:13,847 --> 00:41:15,390 over the last six or seven years, 868 00:41:15,474 --> 00:41:17,935 every one of which seemed to say it's just around the corner. 869 00:41:18,018 --> 00:41:21,355 Something terrible was gonna happen. 870 00:41:21,438 --> 00:41:22,940 There's been a crash. He's missing. 871 00:41:23,023 --> 00:41:24,149 Nobody can find him. 872 00:41:24,233 --> 00:41:27,611 Calls from his doctors, from Susan. 873 00:41:27,694 --> 00:41:28,946 It just seemed like there was nothing 874 00:41:29,029 --> 00:41:31,865 that was ever gonna stop that locomotive. 875 00:41:31,949 --> 00:41:34,326 You kept waiting for the final call." 876 00:41:36,036 --> 00:41:39,498 "But when you finally got it, you almost didn't believe it." 877 00:41:39,581 --> 00:41:46,129 ♪♪ 878 00:41:46,213 --> 00:41:49,132 "I had many times gotten down on my knees 879 00:41:49,216 --> 00:41:51,802 and asked for Scott's forgiveness for that part of me 880 00:41:51,885 --> 00:41:55,222 which provided the impetus for his destruction." 881 00:41:57,224 --> 00:42:00,519 "I want to embrace the responsibility for that." 882 00:42:03,063 --> 00:42:05,774 And you can't unload your skis when you can't dance, 883 00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:09,194 when you can't hit a tennis ball 884 00:42:09,278 --> 00:42:11,071 or read the signals about your son 885 00:42:11,154 --> 00:42:15,325 until the condition is beyond reversing it. 886 00:42:15,409 --> 00:42:16,660 And if you didn't get it, 887 00:42:16,743 --> 00:42:20,872 then you are someone who doesn't get it. 888 00:42:20,956 --> 00:42:23,667 The only thing you can do is say, 'Forgive me.'" 889 00:42:25,168 --> 00:42:28,672 "And the energy up there that represents that kid will say, 890 00:42:28,755 --> 00:42:32,801 'What am I supposed to do with that?' 891 00:42:32,884 --> 00:42:34,678 and give you the finger." 892 00:42:34,761 --> 00:42:41,393 ♪♪ 893 00:42:41,476 --> 00:42:48,859 ♪♪ 894 00:42:48,942 --> 00:42:51,236 Linner: "Paul went straight to the mortuary. 895 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,073 He said it was a totally complete experience. 896 00:42:55,157 --> 00:42:59,870 He said he just really had to go there and be with Scott. 897 00:42:59,953 --> 00:43:03,040 And he said, 'I suddenly knew him 898 00:43:03,123 --> 00:43:06,501 and I was able to weep and look at him and love him.'" 899 00:43:06,585 --> 00:43:13,383 ♪♪ 900 00:43:13,467 --> 00:43:20,098 ♪♪ 901 00:43:20,182 --> 00:43:22,267 "I kept trying to get myself to go see Scott 902 00:43:22,351 --> 00:43:24,478 in the mortuary. 903 00:43:24,561 --> 00:43:27,064 The night before I was going to go, 904 00:43:27,147 --> 00:43:32,110 I dreamed one of the most vivid dreams I'd ever had in my life. 905 00:43:32,194 --> 00:43:34,321 Clea and Emily, who were little girls in the dream 906 00:43:34,404 --> 00:43:36,573 and not the ages they were at the time, 907 00:43:36,657 --> 00:43:41,161 they were going with me to the mortuary to see Scott. 908 00:43:41,244 --> 00:43:46,083 We went up some stairs into a room where Scott was lying, 909 00:43:46,166 --> 00:43:48,919 and he sat up and sort of threw his legs 910 00:43:49,002 --> 00:43:50,754 over the edge of the coffin. 911 00:43:50,837 --> 00:43:53,465 He was sitting on the side and we talked." 912 00:43:53,548 --> 00:43:58,970 ♪♪ 913 00:43:59,054 --> 00:44:02,224 "It was very warm, very loving. 914 00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:07,521 And after we've been talking for a good while, he began to glow. 915 00:44:07,604 --> 00:44:09,981 And he realized he was glowing. 916 00:44:10,065 --> 00:44:13,652 And he said, 'I think you better go now.'" 917 00:44:15,654 --> 00:44:19,574 And I said, 'But Susan and Lissy want a lock of your hair.' 918 00:44:19,658 --> 00:44:22,869 And he said, 'Alright.' 919 00:44:22,953 --> 00:44:25,914 His hair turned into leaves. 920 00:44:25,997 --> 00:44:29,835 And I remember cutting it and thinking, 'How strange. 921 00:44:29,918 --> 00:44:32,462 Now, how am I gonna put this in a locket?'" 922 00:44:32,546 --> 00:44:37,300 ♪♪ 923 00:44:37,384 --> 00:44:41,930 ♪♪ 924 00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:45,058 "I really, really believe and still do 925 00:44:45,142 --> 00:44:48,019 that that was a clear visitation." 926 00:44:48,103 --> 00:44:53,400 ♪♪ 927 00:44:53,483 --> 00:44:57,696 ♪ Fire in a nameless town ♪ 928 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,535 Hamilton: "When I heard the terrible tragedy with Scott, 929 00:45:03,618 --> 00:45:07,456 I went to his dressing room, his trailer. 930 00:45:07,539 --> 00:45:10,125 And we embraced. 931 00:45:10,208 --> 00:45:15,672 I said, 'Paul, I don't know how to -- 932 00:45:15,755 --> 00:45:18,425 I don't know what one says to a person. 933 00:45:18,508 --> 00:45:20,677 I mean, I can conceive of anything in the world 934 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,970 but losing a child. 935 00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:26,099 I just don't know what to say.'" 936 00:45:28,602 --> 00:45:31,188 He just said, 'Okay, sport.' 937 00:45:31,271 --> 00:45:39,237 ♪♪ 938 00:45:39,321 --> 00:45:41,406 Man #7: I don't have a great memory about some things, 939 00:45:41,490 --> 00:45:43,658 and I can't tell you exactly what he talked about, 940 00:45:43,742 --> 00:45:47,662 but it was the first personal conversation I'd ever had. 941 00:45:47,746 --> 00:45:50,665 It wasn't a deep conversation. 942 00:45:50,749 --> 00:45:52,959 It was really just a conversation 943 00:45:53,043 --> 00:45:54,294 about how tough it is 944 00:45:54,377 --> 00:45:57,756 to be the son of someone who's an achiever. 945 00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:59,132 You know, he said, 946 00:45:59,216 --> 00:46:01,635 'I don't think I'd want to be my own son.'" 947 00:46:03,553 --> 00:46:06,264 "And this racing thing that he's done, I mean, 948 00:46:06,348 --> 00:46:08,600 to start at his age...' 949 00:46:08,683 --> 00:46:13,563 ♪♪ 950 00:46:13,647 --> 00:46:18,235 ♪♪ 951 00:46:18,318 --> 00:46:21,238 "You see, I think people who do these things must see living 952 00:46:21,321 --> 00:46:24,324 as very, very dangerous. 953 00:46:24,407 --> 00:46:28,537 It's a dangerous thing to get up in the morning and live. 954 00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:31,248 It's very dangerous and you can't do much about that. 955 00:46:31,331 --> 00:46:33,416 But you can get into a semi-dangerous situation 956 00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:35,252 that's controllable." 957 00:46:35,335 --> 00:46:37,796 Announcer #4: This last year, Paul's fascination with racing 958 00:46:37,879 --> 00:46:40,006 has been such that he's competed in more events 959 00:46:40,090 --> 00:46:41,967 than he ever has before. 960 00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:44,177 Some people think he's spending more time 961 00:46:44,261 --> 00:46:47,430 with his racing career now than with his movie career. 962 00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:50,475 Woodward: I was worried about it. 963 00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:52,394 I really was seriously concerned. 964 00:46:52,477 --> 00:46:54,104 His whole career looked as though 965 00:46:54,187 --> 00:46:55,438 it was gonna go down the drain 966 00:46:55,522 --> 00:46:58,775 because all he wanted to do was race. 967 00:46:58,858 --> 00:47:00,610 Man #7: "Life is a minefield. 968 00:47:00,694 --> 00:47:02,153 You can be hurt very badly, 969 00:47:02,237 --> 00:47:06,241 and you can be killed emotionally in a way. 970 00:47:06,324 --> 00:47:08,827 Or I think that's what people fear. 971 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:11,830 I know I do. 972 00:47:11,913 --> 00:47:15,959 You cannot make life controlled. You cannot control it. 973 00:47:16,042 --> 00:47:17,294 You cannot master life. 974 00:47:17,377 --> 00:47:20,463 You can't master the technique of life." 975 00:47:20,547 --> 00:47:26,261 ♪♪ 976 00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:27,512 Woodward: He's not a lot of spins. 977 00:47:27,596 --> 00:47:29,472 And there's been a couple of times 978 00:47:29,556 --> 00:47:31,266 when we didn't come around. 979 00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:32,976 I'm sitting, waiting, and saying, 980 00:47:33,059 --> 00:47:34,728 "What happened? Where did he go?" 981 00:47:34,811 --> 00:47:38,023 [ Announcer speaking indistinctly ] 982 00:47:38,106 --> 00:47:41,818 Man #7 "If I do the wrong thing here, I'm gonna crash. 983 00:47:41,901 --> 00:47:45,822 And if I learn how to do it right, we're not gonna crash." 984 00:47:47,407 --> 00:47:49,868 "Then it's gonna be beautiful. 985 00:47:49,951 --> 00:47:51,369 We're gonna fly away." 986 00:47:51,453 --> 00:47:56,333 ♪♪ 987 00:47:58,793 --> 00:48:01,963 Just drive the race and try to stay alive. 988 00:48:02,047 --> 00:48:10,930 ♪♪ 989 00:48:16,895 --> 00:48:23,526 ♪♪ 990 00:48:23,610 --> 00:48:26,613 ♪♪ 991 00:48:26,696 --> 00:48:30,200 ♪ Unwind ♪ 992 00:48:30,283 --> 00:48:32,285 ♪ Your watch ♪ 993 00:48:34,162 --> 00:48:39,542 ♪ Shut your eyes a minute ♪ 994 00:48:39,626 --> 00:48:42,671 ♪ 'Cause your heart ♪ 995 00:48:42,754 --> 00:48:46,216 ♪ Killed mine ♪ 996 00:48:46,299 --> 00:48:53,264 ♪ But now I close the distance ♪ 997 00:48:53,348 --> 00:48:59,396 ♪ Wild hunger, strikes into me ♪ 998 00:48:59,479 --> 00:49:05,568 ♪ Rise up with a crash ♪ 999 00:49:05,652 --> 00:49:10,824 ♪♪ 1000 00:49:10,907 --> 00:49:17,080 ♪ Last night, our kiss ♪ 1001 00:49:17,163 --> 00:49:23,753 ♪ Kept haunting me, kept me hoping ♪ 1002 00:49:23,837 --> 00:49:29,926 ♪ Still with a thousand miles ♪ 1003 00:49:30,009 --> 00:49:36,891 ♪ My heart was always open ♪ 1004 00:49:36,975 --> 00:49:43,356 ♪ Wild hunger, strikes into me ♪ 1005 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:49,237 ♪ Rise up with a crash ♪ 1006 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:55,869 ♪ Wild hunger, wild hunger ♪ 1007 00:49:55,952 --> 00:49:59,456 ♪ No more ♪ 75601

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