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Killing people who committed no crime is

wrong. Period. That's the basis of

Christian belief. It's the basis of

Western civilization. Dropping bombs on

people who did nothing wrong is a crime.

Period. That is why we say we are better

than the terrorists because we don't

kill people who did nothing wrong. And

by definition, children haven't done

anything wrong. So you were not allowed

to kill them. And now there's an entire

network of not a television network but

a a loosely aligned network arguing that

it's somehow wrong to say it's immoral

to kill children. And I think it's

immoral to kill children no matter who

kills the children. Whether it's the

government of the United States, the

government of Sri Lanka, the government

of Belgium, the government of Israel,

Hamas, it doesn't matter. It is immoral

to kill people who haven't done anything

wrong. That's why Hiroshima is a

problem. That's why I've complained

about Hiroshima. That's why the Nazis

were bad. That's why everybody who

murders innocents is wrong. And when did

that become controversial? Like I said,

I articulated that and was immediately

attacked by all these, you know, people

on the so-called right? I was like, then

what is the whole point? What is the

point of living here or having this

country if we endorse murdering people

who committed no crime? How are we

better than the people we supposedly

hate? The designation of terrorism grows

from that understanding, which was a

common understanding before 9/11. If you

kill people intentionally who've

committed no crime, you are the

criminal. And who does that? Terrorists.

That's why we call them terrorists. So,

um, I'm happy to call anyone who does

that a terrorist.

>> Does that include Israel?

>> It includes anybody.

>> Does that include Israel?

>> It includes anybody. Anybody. By the

way, let me just say I I it's so funny.

It's Does that include Israel? It

includes people I know personally in the

United States. I know a lot of people

who have okayed the order. I know in

some cases people who participated in

carrying out the order

>> to murder people who committed no crime.

Does that mean they're terrorists? I

don't know. I'll let God figure out what

that means. It means they're committing

acts of terror. That is terrorism.

Because the point of it is not to punish

the guilty. The point of it is to

inspire fear. The point of it is to

depopulate a place, move a population.

Whatever the point of it is, the effect

of it is to punish people who've

committed no crime.