Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:10,469 --> 00:00:12,721
Check, one, two. Check.
2
00:00:26,652 --> 00:00:30,739
Does anyone else get a little bit sad
that they never got to go to Lilith Fair?
3
00:00:36,745 --> 00:00:41,708
Featuring only women artists,
so it was really, really cool.
4
00:00:46,797 --> 00:00:53,011
It was an all-female music festival from
1997 to 1999, and I am shook to my core.
5
00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:03,272
[Olivia Rodrigo] I remember someone
bringing it up a few years ago.
6
00:01:04,356 --> 00:01:06,358
And doing research on it and finding out
7
00:01:07,442 --> 00:01:09,987
that all of my favorite artists
had played at this event.
8
00:01:10,654 --> 00:01:15,867
Somebody like Sarah McLachlan and
Sheryl Crow, Pat Benatar, Fiona Apple,
9
00:01:15,951 --> 00:01:19,037
Jewel, and all these people that I
have spent my whole life just adoring.
10
00:01:19,121 --> 00:01:20,914
[crowd cheers]
11
00:01:20,998 --> 00:01:23,667
I was in disbelief that
I'd never heard of it before.
12
00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:27,212
And also just thinking that
the name sounded really cool.
13
00:01:27,296 --> 00:01:29,548
"Lilith Fair."
Wow, that's really interesting.
14
00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:33,510
It's quite curious because
almost everybody I know
15
00:01:33,594 --> 00:01:34,928
didn't know who Lilith was,
16
00:01:35,012 --> 00:01:38,307
and she's such a strong
and wonderful feminist figure.
17
00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,727
In religious mythology,
18
00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:44,813
- Lilith was Adam's first wife, before Eve.
- [crowd cheering]
19
00:01:44,896 --> 00:01:46,982
She was created out of
the same stuff he was,
20
00:01:47,065 --> 00:01:52,154
yet he refused to treat her as an equal,
so she said, "I'm out of here."
21
00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:56,366
Lilith left the Garden of Eden
and built her own garden,
22
00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:59,745
dancing and singing among women who,
like her,
23
00:01:59,828 --> 00:02:02,289
refused to surrender their strength.
24
00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:14,593
[interviewer] Singer Sarah McLachlanhas launched an all-female tour.
25
00:02:15,552 --> 00:02:17,095
[attendee] Whoo! Whoo!
26
00:02:18,096 --> 00:02:22,684
[Sarah] One of the beautiful things
about Lilith was we could be ourselves.
27
00:02:24,478 --> 00:02:25,854
There was such power in that.
28
00:02:25,937 --> 00:02:29,858
[cheering]
29
00:02:29,941 --> 00:02:31,109
Wow.
30
00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:33,445
Welcome to Lilith Fair!
31
00:02:35,781 --> 00:02:38,283
I just love hearing music
that comes from the heart.
32
00:02:40,285 --> 00:02:43,246
It shows that the women have power
in the music industry.
33
00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:47,376
[Cole] I feel like this is
the first time we've had a forum
34
00:02:47,459 --> 00:02:50,587
of contemporary women artists,
and people just, they were ready.
35
00:02:51,380 --> 00:02:56,176
This is a celebration of women in music
and the fact that we have a voice.
36
00:02:58,136 --> 00:02:59,864
[interviewer]
So, that question of the possibility that
37
00:02:59,888 --> 00:03:03,016
it further marginalizes "women's music,"
quote, unquote.
38
00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:05,977
[Cole] I think the point is good music
that happens to be women.
39
00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:08,855
Of course,
there are undertones of feminism.
40
00:03:08,939 --> 00:03:11,000
- [chuckles]
- [interviewer] Right. You got that right.
41
00:03:11,024 --> 00:03:13,624
And that can't hurt, 'cause the world
needs some of that, I think.
42
00:03:15,570 --> 00:03:17,948
[McLachlan] It was a massive success.
43
00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:22,661
And it changed people's lives.
It changed my life.
44
00:03:24,913 --> 00:03:27,207
And yet, people don't like change.
45
00:03:28,625 --> 00:03:35,215
There's a reason that Lilith still remains
mostly unheard of or misunderstood.
46
00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:40,679
Because if you stand up for something,
47
00:03:41,471 --> 00:03:44,933
there is gonna be
an equal and opposite reaction.
48
00:03:45,016 --> 00:03:48,520
- [crowd cheering]
- [applause]
49
00:04:05,370 --> 00:04:08,915
[Sheryl Crow] One of the things I thought
was so unique about the Lilith Tour was
50
00:04:08,999 --> 00:04:11,960
everybody was always around everybody.
51
00:04:12,043 --> 00:04:13,837
- Hello.
- Two, three.
52
00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,089
[♪ "Put a Little Love in Your Heart"
plays]
53
00:04:20,177 --> 00:04:21,928
Are we gonna go to the…
54
00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:26,850
I mean,
the Lilith Tour was full of rock stars,
55
00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:30,520
but that feminine energy, I think,
usurped the ego.
56
00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:34,024
There was no separation between artists.
57
00:04:34,566 --> 00:04:37,360
Nobody was more important
than anybody else.
58
00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:43,909
With women, there's more of a communal
thing, and it was so important in a moment
59
00:04:43,992 --> 00:04:50,123
where there wasn't a lot of support for
women, particularly in the music industry.
60
00:04:50,707 --> 00:04:51,875
[door bell chimes]
61
00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:54,503
- Hi, Sarah. How ya doing?
- Pretty good. How are you?
62
00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:59,466
[McLachlan] I remember, every time I'd go
to a radio station, they'd play a song.
63
00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,069
They're like, "Yeah, yeah,
it's a really great song,
64
00:05:02,093 --> 00:05:04,137
but, you know, we added
Tracy Chapman this week"
65
00:05:04,221 --> 00:05:07,330
or "We added Jewel this week,"
and I was like, "And?"
66
00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:09,309
"What's that got to do with me?"
67
00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:11,037
Those are all
very different artists than me,
68
00:05:11,061 --> 00:05:14,439
but we all kind of got lumped into
the same category.
69
00:05:14,523 --> 00:05:16,149
There's room for one of us?
70
00:05:18,458 --> 00:05:22,072
They said women were not supposed to
be played back-to-back on the radio.
71
00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:24,035
"It's too much.
People will change the channel."
72
00:05:24,991 --> 00:05:26,993
And it just never made any sense to me.
73
00:05:28,745 --> 00:05:32,332
In the early '90s,
all the radio programmers were men.
74
00:05:32,758 --> 00:05:34,134
All the promoters were men.
75
00:05:34,231 --> 00:05:37,806
It was inane that we weren't able to do
what it was we knew we could do.
76
00:05:37,906 --> 00:05:40,799
[♪ "All I Wanna Do" plays]
77
00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:44,386
[♪ "Sleep to Dream" plays]
78
00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:47,806
[♪ "You Oughta Know" plays]
79
00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:53,728
There was a great rush of
female singer-songwriters.
80
00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:57,816
You had rock and roll women,
you had hip-hop women,
81
00:05:57,899 --> 00:06:01,486
you had folky women, you had
folk-rock women making all kinds of music.
82
00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,359
They keep talking about female singers,
and suddenly,
83
00:06:04,406 --> 00:06:06,616
you're all lumped together
when you don't sound alike.
84
00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:10,954
Exactly. Well, because it's
supposedly a "fad" or whatever.
85
00:06:11,037 --> 00:06:17,961
There's still this media perception
of it being cute or novel or a fluke.
86
00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:19,963
Women aren't flukes. [Chuckles]
87
00:06:20,046 --> 00:06:22,507
[cheering]
88
00:06:22,591 --> 00:06:25,594
[Phair]
When you're in a male-dominated industry,
89
00:06:25,677 --> 00:06:28,179
you don't run into other female artists,
90
00:06:28,263 --> 00:06:30,515
and worse,
you're being pitted against each other.
91
00:06:30,599 --> 00:06:33,560
So we all knew,
although we'd never talk about it.
92
00:06:33,643 --> 00:06:35,535
I don't wanna talk about it.
93
00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:36,663
Shut up.
94
00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:39,774
This area right here, you can see
how Jewel dominated her competition.
95
00:06:41,276 --> 00:06:43,612
[Phair] And I think we felt, in one sense,
96
00:06:43,695 --> 00:06:46,072
the competitors in us would be like,
"All right."
97
00:06:46,156 --> 00:06:50,410
And then, in another sense,
this great sadness. Like, "Why, why?"
98
00:06:52,621 --> 00:06:58,168
That was a very '90s ethos,
because it wasn't an easy time either.
99
00:06:58,668 --> 00:07:00,503
Are you a scorned woman?
100
00:07:02,047 --> 00:07:04,758
[Jewel]
The larger culture was straight-up toxic.
101
00:07:04,841 --> 00:07:08,511
Then you're the president,
and you're humping the fat chick.
102
00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:09,971
[audience laughs]
103
00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:12,682
Be a little more sexy.
With a body like that.
104
00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:14,184
- Yeah, yeah! Whoa.
- Whoa.
105
00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:16,645
- [squeals]
- [audience laughs]
106
00:07:16,728 --> 00:07:17,729
What are you doing?
107
00:07:18,313 --> 00:07:19,940
[audience cheers]
108
00:07:20,023 --> 00:07:23,401
The predominant movement
at the time was shock jocks.
109
00:07:23,485 --> 00:07:25,004
- [radio host] Goes off…
- [radio host 2] Shock radio.
110
00:07:25,028 --> 00:07:26,559
Getting the boner.
111
00:07:26,634 --> 00:07:28,573
I like the big, fat bitch.
112
00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:30,742
[Jewel] I'm 19, and they would go,
113
00:07:30,825 --> 00:07:33,536
"Jewel, how do you give a blow job
with those teeth?"
114
00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:36,289
Or, "You may have heard me describe
my next guest
115
00:07:36,373 --> 00:07:38,291
as a large-breasted woman from Alaska.
116
00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:39,542
Jewel, how are you?"
117
00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:42,462
And I was like,
"You must be that small penis man
118
00:07:42,545 --> 00:07:45,048
I've heard so much about
from South Carolina."
119
00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:47,634
And I was escorted out.
120
00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:51,388
Howard Stern Interview Show
with Suzanne Vega.
121
00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:52,472
Come here. Come here.
122
00:07:52,555 --> 00:07:54,849
Suzanne, what's the big deal?
Suzanne is a…
123
00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:58,019
Guys are not responding to you
in the proper way.
124
00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:00,939
They're not seeing you
as a little bit of a, uh, sex image.
125
00:08:01,022 --> 00:08:04,609
Yeah, well, we've discussed this already,
about the makeover thing.
126
00:08:04,693 --> 00:08:08,113
I like to cover myself.
That's why I dress the way I dress.
127
00:08:08,196 --> 00:08:10,490
I wanted people
to see my face and my hands,
128
00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:12,283
and to think about my lyrics.
129
00:08:12,367 --> 00:08:15,620
But the pressure was on
to be sort of larger than life,
130
00:08:15,704 --> 00:08:17,706
- to be more like Madonna.
- [camera shutter clicks]
131
00:08:17,789 --> 00:08:20,959
In the '80s, she used sex to sell records.
132
00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:23,586
That was her empowerment message,
133
00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:24,796
which was great for her,
134
00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:27,882
but it was not something
that I was going to do.
135
00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:34,347
[Phair] I was sent to a magazine shoot,
and they asked me to wear
136
00:08:34,431 --> 00:08:37,851
trousers and suspenders
that just went over my nipples,
137
00:08:37,934 --> 00:08:39,769
so I had no shirt on.
138
00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:41,980
Everyone says, "You have this big record."
139
00:08:42,063 --> 00:08:44,024
"You're in the top whatever list."
140
00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:46,776
And I'm like, "I'm devalued."
141
00:08:47,402 --> 00:08:49,571
Everything that I was good at,
that I was skilled at,
142
00:08:49,654 --> 00:08:51,281
that I had worked my entire life for,
143
00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:53,825
boiled down to, "Do her tits look good?"
144
00:08:53,908 --> 00:08:56,953
She looks great in the interview.
She needs a more flattering picture,
145
00:08:57,037 --> 00:08:58,038
don't you think?
146
00:08:58,121 --> 00:09:00,123
Well, she's got her mouth wide open
on this shot.
147
00:09:00,206 --> 00:09:01,916
But she's a great singer.
Mark my words.
148
00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,920
You're gonna hear from Liz Phair
for a long time.
149
00:09:04,002 --> 00:09:07,464
So, yeah.
I was ready to quit that first year.
150
00:09:09,507 --> 00:09:11,426
[Newman] Her debut album in 1988
151
00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:14,054
established her as a new force
in Canadian music.
152
00:09:14,137 --> 00:09:17,182
Sarah McLachlan joins us now
from her hometown of Halifax.
153
00:09:17,265 --> 00:09:19,684
- Hi, Sarah. How are you?
- Hi.
154
00:09:19,768 --> 00:09:22,228
What was it like
growing up in Halifax for you, then?
155
00:09:23,188 --> 00:09:24,439
Uh, how long do we have?
156
00:09:24,522 --> 00:09:25,523
[both chuckle]
157
00:09:27,776 --> 00:09:31,071
[McLachlan]
For me, as a good Canadian girl,
158
00:09:31,154 --> 00:09:34,991
I had to sort of find my way through
to who I was.
159
00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:40,121
You see,
I was raised not to have an opinion,
160
00:09:40,205 --> 00:09:42,332
not to open my mouth and say anything.
161
00:09:45,126 --> 00:09:47,087
My mom was incredibly strict.
162
00:09:49,047 --> 00:09:52,467
I wasn't really allowed
to go out and do anything.
163
00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:54,094
I didn't really have any friends.
164
00:09:55,178 --> 00:09:57,806
Like, I could not be myself at home.
165
00:10:02,727 --> 00:10:06,981
I was grounded most of my adolescence
for the tiniest of infractions.
166
00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:11,319
But, really, it was just 'cause my mom
wanted to keep me home to "protect" me.
167
00:10:12,695 --> 00:10:16,074
I remember begging to be in a band.
168
00:10:16,157 --> 00:10:19,410
And she was like, "Don't go thinking
you're anything special.
169
00:10:19,494 --> 00:10:22,413
Don't go thinking
that you can really advance
170
00:10:22,497 --> 00:10:25,208
or get anywhere
because that doesn't happen.
171
00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:26,918
You're gonna fail."
172
00:10:28,419 --> 00:10:31,047
Well, that sucks. I don't believe that.
173
00:10:31,714 --> 00:10:35,051
So, you know,
my mom was really the first one
174
00:10:35,135 --> 00:10:39,597
to help push me towards having
my own belief system in myself
175
00:10:39,681 --> 00:10:42,308
by doing the opposite,
by telling me I wasn't good enough.
176
00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:45,186
I was like,
"Oh, I'm gonna be good enough."
177
00:10:47,605 --> 00:10:51,609
I need people around me
who support me and have my back
178
00:10:51,693 --> 00:10:54,445
and actually like me for who I am.
179
00:10:55,113 --> 00:10:57,740
For me, that was Terry McBride,
my manager,
180
00:10:57,824 --> 00:11:00,118
Dan Fraser, my road manager,
181
00:11:00,201 --> 00:11:01,536
and Marty Diamond, my agent.
182
00:11:02,704 --> 00:11:04,289
There was a mutual respect there,
183
00:11:05,081 --> 00:11:07,917
and that was really, really important
to me.
184
00:11:09,377 --> 00:11:12,338
Everyone around Sarah and her crew
and her band,
185
00:11:12,422 --> 00:11:16,217
they were very open,
and you could see the magic.
186
00:11:16,301 --> 00:11:19,304
[♪ "Possession" plays]
187
00:11:45,413 --> 00:11:48,124
[McLachlan]
There was so much happening, so fast.
188
00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:52,212
[reporter] Sarah McLachlan is one ofthe busiest women in the music industry.
189
00:11:52,295 --> 00:11:54,589
[reporter 2]
A force that just keeps on growing.
190
00:11:54,672 --> 00:11:57,508
[reporter 3]
She's on the verge of pop superstardom.
191
00:11:58,593 --> 00:12:00,303
[mouthing words]
192
00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:04,682
[Fraser] Working with Sarah,
193
00:12:05,308 --> 00:12:08,394
Terry was the brains of the operation.
194
00:12:08,478 --> 00:12:12,273
And I was… [chuckles]
I was on the touring side.
195
00:12:17,195 --> 00:12:18,863
We were all a big family,
196
00:12:18,947 --> 00:12:22,700
and we all kind of found solace
in ourselves
197
00:12:22,784 --> 00:12:26,496
and in what we were trying
to achieve every day.
198
00:12:30,875 --> 00:12:33,253
[McLachlan] My band and crew,
we'd go out on the road.
199
00:12:33,336 --> 00:12:34,587
Mostly men, yes.
200
00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:36,464
- I got it.
- Oh, yeah.
201
00:12:36,547 --> 00:12:38,400
[McLachlan]
But I wasn't even thinking about it.
202
00:12:38,424 --> 00:12:39,968
[laughs]
203
00:12:40,051 --> 00:12:41,678
They were all great people.
204
00:12:42,220 --> 00:12:43,221
And off we went.
205
00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:46,391
I thought that was normal.
206
00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:49,936
But I didn't know the position I was in.
207
00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:55,400
Coming from Canada,
I was sheltered to a certain degree,
208
00:12:56,401 --> 00:12:58,528
until I got signed to an American deal.
209
00:13:00,405 --> 00:13:04,117
I remember going down to LA for a week.
210
00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,122
The A&R guy was like,
"Well, you know, if you lost five pounds,
211
00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:10,516
you know, we could do this with you."
212
00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:12,893
They were looking at my hair, going,
"If we could do this and fix it."
213
00:13:12,917 --> 00:13:16,004
And I came down there feeling, A,
just fine about my body,
214
00:13:16,087 --> 00:13:17,547
never gave it a second thought.
215
00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:20,508
Actually, maybe we should move back.
Watch it right there.
216
00:13:20,591 --> 00:13:22,903
Just because they come and go
and then they won't smash into me.
217
00:13:22,927 --> 00:13:24,429
- Okay.
- We don't want that.
218
00:13:24,512 --> 00:13:27,390
They won't be inclined to pinch my ass
or something to make me scream.
219
00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:32,020
And after a week there, I was starting
to not feel good about myself.
220
00:13:33,438 --> 00:13:34,647
[McLachlan]
221
00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,779
And I was so young and green and naive.
222
00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:45,301
If this is what a major label looks like,
and that's what they expect from me,
223
00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:46,784
I'm like, "This is...
224
00:13:46,868 --> 00:13:48,202
No, I can't do it."
225
00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:54,208
Then I realized that I was missing
that sense of connection and community.
226
00:13:54,292 --> 00:13:56,919
Two, three, check. Hello, hello.
227
00:13:57,003 --> 00:13:58,713
I feel lonely.
228
00:13:58,796 --> 00:14:01,841
This is a weird job,
and it would be so nice to connect
229
00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:05,428
with other women
who are doing a similar thing to me.
230
00:14:06,304 --> 00:14:09,140
But that's when promoters started saying,
"You can't do this."
231
00:14:09,223 --> 00:14:10,516
None of your business.
232
00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:14,562
Saying, "You can't put two women
on the same bill. People won't come."
233
00:14:14,645 --> 00:14:17,023
Which was complete bullshit.
234
00:14:18,149 --> 00:14:19,984
At the time, believe it or not,
235
00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:23,321
promoters wouldn't put two women
back-to-back on the same bill
236
00:14:23,404 --> 00:14:27,283
…because the tickets wouldn't sell,
which was absolutely ridiculous.
237
00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:30,095
[Schellenbach] If you did,
it was called a "pussy package."
238
00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:31,788
"Come on down. It's girl's night."
239
00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:35,166
And like, "Th-This many bands
and free drinks for the ladies."
240
00:14:35,249 --> 00:14:38,252
And it was, like, a weird stigma
around that.
241
00:14:39,003 --> 00:14:43,007
And, certainly, that put a huge fire
under my butt to prove them wrong.
242
00:14:43,091 --> 00:14:44,550
[♪ "I Don't Want to Wait" plays]
243
00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:47,804
And the first person
I reached out to was Paula Cole.
244
00:15:08,533 --> 00:15:10,785
[Cole] Sarah showed up at a gig of mine,
245
00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:14,831
and she asked me to come on tour with her.
That was the beginning.
246
00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:16,499
- Okay.
- Okay what, Dan?
247
00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:17,625
We're ready to rock.
248
00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:26,884
[Cole] I knew how rare it was for a woman
to open for another woman on the road.
249
00:15:26,968 --> 00:15:31,681
So would I open the show,
and I would speak to the audience,
250
00:15:31,764 --> 00:15:33,307
and I would say, "Listen."
251
00:15:33,391 --> 00:15:35,768
I just wanna say that I'm very grateful.
252
00:15:35,852 --> 00:15:39,730
I'm always grateful when I see women
supporting other women in this business.
253
00:15:39,814 --> 00:15:42,316
- [cheering]
- It's such a rare and wonderful thing.
254
00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:44,986
And you could feel
the ripple of the zeitgeist,
255
00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:46,821
this realization throughout the audience.
256
00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:49,949
They knew it was true.
They knew it was fucked-up. [Chuckles]
257
00:15:50,032 --> 00:15:52,034
And it kept doing well and well and well.
258
00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,036
[♪ "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?"
plays]
259
00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,288
[audience cheers]
260
00:15:57,165 --> 00:15:59,041
And selling out and selling out.
261
00:16:02,336 --> 00:16:04,964
And I think we all realized
that there was something there.
262
00:16:13,514 --> 00:16:15,475
So, that then expanded.
263
00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:23,316
[McLachlan] What I remember feeling is,
"Oh, my God. This is so much fun."
264
00:16:24,525 --> 00:16:27,403
She re-engaged and was so excited.
265
00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:32,408
And it was that, that everyone went,
"We should do some more of these."
266
00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:36,120
Why don't we get a couple of other artists
and do a couple of other shows?
267
00:16:36,704 --> 00:16:38,289
She went, "They have to be all female."
268
00:16:38,372 --> 00:16:40,917
I went, "Huh. Okay."
269
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,543
[cheering]
270
00:16:42,627 --> 00:16:45,129
[McLachlan]
Look at all these summer festivals.
271
00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:46,733
They're all completely male-dominated.
272
00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:50,092
Yet there's all these amazing women
out there making music.
273
00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,571
Why don't we ask some of them
if they wanna come do something?
274
00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:55,515
And it was as simple as that.
275
00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:58,809
It wasn't easy. [Chuckles]
276
00:16:58,893 --> 00:17:00,770
It was long, long days.
277
00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:05,608
And Marty, Terry and myself
negotiated every deal.
278
00:17:06,317 --> 00:17:09,362
[Diamond] I lived 3,000 miles away
from the core group,
279
00:17:09,445 --> 00:17:11,239
so I was on the phone.
280
00:17:11,948 --> 00:17:14,784
- Marty.
- What days are they?
281
00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,787
There always was a sense of resistance
from promoters.
282
00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:21,582
I was doing all the talent outreach.
And getting a lot of noes.
283
00:17:21,675 --> 00:17:26,329
You know, for me, it was, like, a no was
a reason to come back harder.
284
00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:28,214
[Vega] At first, I didn't get it.
285
00:17:28,297 --> 00:17:31,509
I thought,
"Why is she making this all-female show?"
286
00:17:31,592 --> 00:17:32,593
[camera shutter clicking]
287
00:17:32,677 --> 00:17:36,389
And then she explained to me
that this was deliberate.
288
00:17:36,472 --> 00:17:38,891
She was doing it deliberately
to show the promoters
289
00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:43,062
that you could have an all-female lineup
and that it would do well.
290
00:17:43,145 --> 00:17:46,399
And I thought, "Oh, yeah.
Okay, great. Sign me up. I'll do it."
291
00:17:46,482 --> 00:17:49,318
- [♪ "Tom's Diner" plays]
- [rhythmic clapping]
292
00:18:07,545 --> 00:18:09,630
[cheering]
293
00:18:09,714 --> 00:18:12,800
[♪ "Stay (I Missed You)" plays]
294
00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:36,032
At first, my immediate reaction was,
"I don't know if that's a good idea.
295
00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,675
I don't really wanna be grouped
with a bunch of women musicians."
296
00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:41,287
I'm a musician.
297
00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:45,166
I went through my whole life
at this all-girls school
298
00:18:45,249 --> 00:18:48,294
where I really didn't wanna be seen
as just a girl who plays guitar.
299
00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:53,132
But then I heard
about who was on the bill.
300
00:18:53,215 --> 00:18:58,763
It was Sarah, Paula Cole,
Aimee Mann, Patti Smith.
301
00:18:58,846 --> 00:19:01,015
So I said,
"Yes, for sure, I would love to do it."
302
00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:04,769
- [audience cheering]
- [♪ "Stay (I Missed You)" continues]
303
00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:28,125
There was something different
about being able to hang out with
304
00:19:28,209 --> 00:19:31,003
and talk to other women
who were leading their bands.
305
00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:36,926
Being backstage with people
that I was such a big admirer of…
306
00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:41,847
You know, being a musician,
you're very alone.
307
00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:44,934
And to be able
to have conversations with other people
308
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:46,769
about their experiences,
309
00:19:46,852 --> 00:19:49,188
"You feel that way? Oh, my gosh.
I feel that way too.
310
00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:50,940
I thought I was the only one."
311
00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:53,317
[audience cheers]
312
00:19:53,401 --> 00:19:57,029
You know, that was an unusual place
where you could feel at ease.
313
00:20:12,086 --> 00:20:13,254
Thank you.
314
00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:17,341
[McLachlan] We did four shows in 1996
as sort of test runs.
315
00:20:17,425 --> 00:20:20,065
And I just wanted to be able
to replicate that over and over again.
316
00:20:21,512 --> 00:20:23,139
- It's over.
- [crew member] Yes.
317
00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:27,810
It was a success and I'm very happy.
318
00:20:29,395 --> 00:20:30,563
At the end of the day,
319
00:20:30,646 --> 00:20:34,275
we just kind of sat
on the floor in the room,
320
00:20:34,358 --> 00:20:37,820
and we said, "Let's do this."
Like, "Let's build a festival."
321
00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:41,866
Not four shows. Let's do 35 shows.
322
00:20:41,949 --> 00:20:44,869
I think the label was very,
like, "Oh, you can't do this."
323
00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:46,746
Like, "That's crazy," right?
324
00:20:46,829 --> 00:20:50,791
And, well, we basically said, you know,
"Stuff it. We're gonna do it."
325
00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:54,170
That turned into '97.
326
00:20:57,631 --> 00:21:02,136
Originally, I don't think any of us
were thinking as wide as it went.
327
00:21:04,972 --> 00:21:06,849
[McBride] Before we launched, I said,
328
00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:08,893
"You've got to come up
with a name for this.
329
00:21:08,976 --> 00:21:10,811
Because I need to brand it."
330
00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:14,315
[McLachlan]
331
00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:18,712
[Childerhose] She wanted something
that well represented
332
00:21:18,736 --> 00:21:20,446
women and female power.
333
00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:21,530
She'd mentioned Eve.
334
00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:26,076
And I said to her,
"Have you heard about Adam's first wife?
335
00:21:27,036 --> 00:21:28,871
You should call it Lilith."
336
00:21:30,414 --> 00:21:31,499
[painter 2]
337
00:21:31,582 --> 00:21:32,708
No.
338
00:21:35,878 --> 00:21:38,631
I just thought
it was cheeky and reactionary.
339
00:21:38,714 --> 00:21:41,801
But it was a beautiful name,
and I put "Fair" on the end of it
340
00:21:41,884 --> 00:21:44,094
because I like the play on words,
fair being beautiful,
341
00:21:44,178 --> 00:21:47,640
fair being equal, and fair being
a celebration or a festival.
342
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:51,811
[McBride] There was a lot of challenges
343
00:21:51,894 --> 00:21:55,981
because the business just wasn't
set up for it.
344
00:21:56,065 --> 00:21:57,608
First with the promoters,
345
00:21:57,691 --> 00:22:00,611
which Marty mostly had to deal with.
346
00:22:00,694 --> 00:22:04,740
There was a little bit of a convince
that this wasn't just a regional success.
347
00:22:06,534 --> 00:22:07,993
And so, I just sort of thought,
348
00:22:08,077 --> 00:22:10,871
"Okay, who's out there
that I'm listening to that I really love?"
349
00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:12,015
[♪ "Everyday Is A Winding Road" plays]
350
00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,333
And we had a wish list.
351
00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:17,545
Sheryl was one of those artists
that worked her ass off
352
00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:19,129
to get to where she was.
353
00:22:19,213 --> 00:22:22,258
Her record was huge.
354
00:22:22,341 --> 00:22:25,594
Sarah McLachlan called me,
and I was absolutely like,
355
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:28,556
"Oh, my goodness.
I mean, mana from heaven."
356
00:22:28,639 --> 00:22:30,474
[Diamond] Sheryl Crow will join the tour.
357
00:22:30,558 --> 00:22:33,561
[♪ "Everyday Is A Winding Road" continues]
358
00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:53,455
[McLachlan] She got it.
She knew what we were trying to do.
359
00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:56,000
She was part of it,
she was deeply invested in it.
360
00:22:57,126 --> 00:22:58,961
It was kind of like sisters in arms,
361
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,089
and I was so grateful to have her there.
362
00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:06,260
We always viewed it
that we needed a co-headliner.
363
00:23:06,343 --> 00:23:10,097
Like, it was always like,
"Okay, one plus one equals three."
364
00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:11,974
Who's the one plus one equals three?
365
00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:14,268
[♪ "Fast Car" plays]
366
00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:16,770
[Diamond] Tracy was a musical anomaly…
367
00:23:18,272 --> 00:23:19,690
In the best way possible.
368
00:23:21,525 --> 00:23:23,611
She was an artist
that was a ground breaker.
369
00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:27,323
She was hard to get, and an important get.
370
00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:31,410
And you have to understand
that I came from in that place,
371
00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:35,247
like, maybe selling out
to 2,500 or 3,000 people.
372
00:23:35,789 --> 00:23:37,708
Sheryl, same thing.
373
00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:39,793
Tracy Chapman, she was bigger.
374
00:23:40,628 --> 00:23:45,382
So independently, we had fan bases.
375
00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:48,469
Together, I thought,
"How could this fail?"
376
00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:55,935
We took very low guarantees.
377
00:23:56,018 --> 00:23:59,063
In some cases, we took no guarantees.
So we took all the risk.
378
00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:02,274
And we didn't have a lot of sponsorships
379
00:24:02,358 --> 00:24:05,402
'cause people just didn't see it
doing anything.
380
00:24:06,362 --> 00:24:07,696
[truck beeping]
381
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:12,242
I remember specifically one conversation
with the water company,
382
00:24:12,326 --> 00:24:14,304
and they were like,
"No, we're kind of really focusing
383
00:24:14,328 --> 00:24:15,913
on a male audience."
384
00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:18,874
And I was like, "It's water."
385
00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:22,002
We're here with Sarah McLachlan,
who is defacing the water bottles.
386
00:24:22,086 --> 00:24:24,004
- Hey, they're not sponsoring us.
- There you go.
387
00:24:24,088 --> 00:24:25,899
So much of the organization's
been taken care of
388
00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:29,593
and now most of the huge things
sort of fall on the shoulders
389
00:24:29,677 --> 00:24:31,804
of my tour manager, Dan Fraser.
390
00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:36,225
'Cause he's running this thing,
which is 67 people and seven semis
391
00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:40,771
and six tour buses and, you know,
it's all on his shoulders now.
392
00:24:40,854 --> 00:24:42,982
You know, I just get up there
and sing every night.
393
00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:45,609
Okay, we'll see you down
at The Gorge. Here we go.
394
00:24:51,657 --> 00:24:54,034
[Diamond] I don't know
if you've ever been to The Gorge,
395
00:24:54,118 --> 00:24:56,412
but it's really fucking steep, you know.
396
00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,789
And The Gorge is not in Seattle.
397
00:24:59,873 --> 00:25:02,710
[McLachlan]
I remember the first show at The Gorge.
398
00:25:03,419 --> 00:25:06,379
Promoters were saying, "People won't come.
People won't buy those tickets."
399
00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:13,762
And when 15,000 people showed up…
400
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:15,597
[cheering]
401
00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:21,270
…we went, "Bingo, now we have something."
402
00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:24,481
[♪ "Down On Me" plays]
403
00:25:28,277 --> 00:25:30,237
[radio host]
The Lilith Fair bill is incredible.
404
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,157
Joining McLachlan on the bill
will be Jewel, Paula Cole, Tracy Chapman,
405
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,034
Suzanne Vega,
jazz singer Cassandra Wilson,
406
00:25:35,117 --> 00:25:37,661
and Fiona Apple, Joan Osborne
and The Cardigans.
407
00:25:38,134 --> 00:25:40,664
[Diamond]
Maybe the better question is, who isn't?
408
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:43,709
[Carlile] I would go to The Gorge
in Washington State,
409
00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:44,918
which is where I'm from,
410
00:25:45,002 --> 00:25:48,047
and then try to get tickets to shows
I didn't have tickets to.
411
00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:51,341
And I knew that there was this concert
that was gonna be all-women
412
00:25:51,425 --> 00:25:53,719
and that Sarah McLachlan
was involved in it.
413
00:25:53,802 --> 00:25:57,347
So I kind of knew that I was
going up there for, like, a special one.
414
00:25:57,431 --> 00:26:01,226
But nothing really could have prepared me
for that experience,
415
00:26:01,310 --> 00:26:04,563
a sort of coming-of-age and total freedom.
416
00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:08,442
I was the only person
out of the closet in my high school.
417
00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:11,987
I was just this punky little baby dyke
running around.
418
00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:15,657
And it had the feeling
of the beginning of something
419
00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:19,536
because there was so much happening
for LGBTQ people.
420
00:26:20,204 --> 00:26:23,582
1997 was the same year
that Ellen DeGeneres came out,
421
00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:26,960
courting so much controversy
but also so much hopefulness.
422
00:26:27,044 --> 00:26:29,296
And from the audience perspective,
423
00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:34,051
Lilith Fair felt like a real-life
backyard manifestation of that, to me.
424
00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:39,098
I just wanna say
that I'm really glad Lilith has started.
425
00:26:39,181 --> 00:26:42,142
I'm here because Sarah is very talented.
426
00:26:42,226 --> 00:26:44,037
She's here for the chicks,
we're here for the music.
427
00:26:44,061 --> 00:26:45,580
I'm here for the chick…
It's a chick fest.
428
00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:49,441
[Mulligan] This is Much West at Lilith
Fair '97, the kickoff date at The Gorge.
429
00:26:49,525 --> 00:26:52,444
I was wondering
what the common voice might achieve here.
430
00:26:52,528 --> 00:26:55,322
I think Lilith Fair is a symbol of hope.
431
00:26:55,405 --> 00:26:59,159
Not only is there
a tremendous amount of support,
432
00:26:59,243 --> 00:27:03,163
but I think this is just a metaphor
for what could be in other areas of life.
433
00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:07,918
[Cole]
It was like a perfect day, clear blue sky,
434
00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:11,171
the majesty of The Gorge sold out,
435
00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:12,548
and us coming together.
436
00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:17,094
And we realized, like, this is something
that's much bigger than us
437
00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:19,138
or what we even thought it could be.
438
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:22,224
There was magic in the air.
439
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:25,686
And that was the first day of Lilith Fair.
440
00:27:26,562 --> 00:27:28,456
[concertgoer] We saw some new people
who we hadn't seen before.
441
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,458
- [reporter] Like who?
- Like I've never seen Paula Cole.
442
00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:32,127
- [reporter] And?
- And she was great. She was excellent.
443
00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:35,154
[♪ "I Don't Want to Wait" plays]
444
00:27:57,801 --> 00:28:02,890
Could you in your wildest of dreams
have envisioned that hill full of people?
445
00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:08,604
[McLachlan] Um… [chuckles] There is
a lot of people. It's so exciting.
446
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:11,106
The whole day, I mean,
I keep thinking I gotta slow down
447
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:13,251
or I'm gonna be exhausted
by the time I get on at ten o'clock
448
00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:14,955
'cause I've been going since this morning.
449
00:28:14,985 --> 00:28:17,279
But, yeah, I'm just having
such a fantastic time,
450
00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:19,698
the energy's so great
and everybody's just like,
451
00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:21,200
"Thank you so much for doing this."
452
00:28:21,743 --> 00:28:23,243
[interviewer]
453
00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:24,494
Very first concert ever.
454
00:28:27,164 --> 00:28:30,042
'Cause I love Jewel. Love her.
455
00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,961
[♪ "Near You Always" plays]
456
00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:46,183
[audience cheers]
457
00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:49,978
[Jewel] One of the things I was criticized
the most for in my music was sincerity,
458
00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,272
which is kind of funny.
459
00:28:52,356 --> 00:28:55,150
But I have to say that
when I sang for Lilith,
460
00:28:55,234 --> 00:28:58,737
what I noticed in the audience was
kind of unabashed sincerity.
461
00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:01,823
[♪ "Near You Always" continues]
462
00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:29,768
For me, looking around,
men, especially in the '90s,
463
00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:31,979
were very hetero-focused.
464
00:29:32,062 --> 00:29:35,565
And that mentality made it
where men didn't know
465
00:29:35,649 --> 00:29:38,193
that they had permission
in their peer group
466
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:39,987
to go see a female concert.
467
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:46,326
But to this day, I still see
men that are metal fans love my music,
468
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:48,537
and they always come up to me
kind of furtively,
469
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:51,623
and they're like,
"I really like your stuff."
470
00:29:56,586 --> 00:29:57,796
[song ends]
471
00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,589
[audience cheers]
472
00:30:01,425 --> 00:30:03,444
- [Mulligan] How'd you like the concert?
- It was great.
473
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,470
- Who'd you come to see?
- Tracy Chapman.
474
00:30:05,554 --> 00:30:06,555
[Mulligan] All right.
475
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,394
[♪ "Baby Can I Hold You" plays]
476
00:30:18,442 --> 00:30:21,903
[Cole] Tracy Chapman was a goddess
477
00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:24,740
and delivered such a powerful set.
478
00:30:28,035 --> 00:30:31,621
[Chapman] Lilith Fair Tour,
it was a great thing to do.
479
00:30:31,705 --> 00:30:34,833
In some ways, doing a-a festival like that
is actually easier
480
00:30:34,916 --> 00:30:39,129
than playing your own show
because I-I didn't feel any pressure.
481
00:30:39,546 --> 00:30:41,298
None of us missed Tracy's set.
482
00:30:41,381 --> 00:30:43,383
[♪ "New Beginning" plays]
483
00:30:52,142 --> 00:30:53,602
[Runnals] After the show that night,
484
00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:56,730
the vibes were so good
that we just camped backstage.
485
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:00,692
I was in my early 20s.
486
00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:04,363
Basically, what I did was run
the main stage production office.
487
00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:09,284
And it wasn't until we actually hit
the road that we really understood
488
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,620
the magnitude
of what we were trying to create.
489
00:31:11,703 --> 00:31:13,497
[♪ "Sweet Surrender" plays]
490
00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:17,959
[Runnals]
We realized we don't have enough crew
491
00:31:18,043 --> 00:31:21,588
to take this festival
to the next city tomorrow.
492
00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:25,008
And took a couple local crew guys
and hired them on the spot
493
00:31:25,092 --> 00:31:28,178
and said, "We're gonna give you
20 minutes, go home, pack a bag,
494
00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:29,941
you're on the road with us
for the summer."
495
00:31:30,972 --> 00:31:33,683
By comparison,
something like a Lollapalooza,
496
00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:36,144
they were doing 15 or 18 shows.
497
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:37,354
We did 40.
498
00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:41,817
So that's four or five festival shows
in a week.
499
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,444
It was absolutely bonkers.
500
00:31:44,528 --> 00:31:48,448
It felt like we were building the airplane
while we were already flying it.
501
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:54,079
It literally felt
like there was a woman's touch
502
00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:55,330
all the way through it.
503
00:31:55,997 --> 00:31:58,667
I mean, not only women fronting bands,
504
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:00,919
but lots of crew members that were female.
505
00:32:01,711 --> 00:32:05,132
And this was the first time
you'd seen anything like it.
506
00:32:05,215 --> 00:32:07,259
Right now,
we're just running big long cables
507
00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:10,429
across the stage and up and over.
508
00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:13,515
[Donlon]
I think the impact was widespread.
509
00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:16,768
Lilith Fair was looking
for female sound engineers
510
00:32:16,852 --> 00:32:19,855
and female techs,
and now there's opportunities.
511
00:32:20,647 --> 00:32:23,233
My boss is Gord Reddy.
512
00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:29,739
[Runnals] Lilith was like this incubation
513
00:32:29,823 --> 00:32:34,244
of female talent
in front of and behind the stage,
514
00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:37,539
and I think we really created
something wonderful for a lot of people.
515
00:32:38,665 --> 00:32:42,169
We were the first tour
to bring in extended healthcare.
516
00:32:42,252 --> 00:32:44,504
And these grown men would be crying
517
00:32:44,588 --> 00:32:46,882
because they could send their kids
to the dentist.
518
00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:52,387
In hindsight, it's absolutely remarkable
that we managed to do it.
519
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:58,768
[McLachlan] "Everything has found a flow.
We've settled into a groove quite nicely."
520
00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,982
We are essentially a small traveling town
521
00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:06,860
"complete with all the trappings
of small-town energy."
522
00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:14,743
The one thing that was a little weird…
[chuckles]
523
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:18,872
…was, especially in the beginning,
there was this kind of self-consciousness.
524
00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:23,126
And there was a kind of stiffness
to some of us backstage
525
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:27,672
that didn't really break
until the Indigo Girls came out.
526
00:33:27,756 --> 00:33:29,883
[♪ "Galileo" plays]
527
00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:32,093
And they just broke through all of that.
528
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:38,433
I am incredibly shy
and I have terrible social anxiety.
529
00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:40,477
And in the culture I was raised in,
530
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,523
you let the more experienced people
come up to you.
531
00:33:44,606 --> 00:33:47,734
I don't know why it was that way.
It's just sort of how I was raised.
532
00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:51,947
You weren't allowed, in a way,
to, like, go up to them.
533
00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:56,535
But when I got on Lilith,
I remember the Indigo Girls were
534
00:33:56,618 --> 00:33:59,538
the greeters of the tour,
like, "Hi" and "Welcome."
535
00:34:00,622 --> 00:34:05,293
So it was a relief to have somebody
to kind of be forward that way. [Laughs]
536
00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:08,463
[♪ "Galileo" continues]
537
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:18,306
[audience cheering]
538
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:21,309
[Saliers] Took a minute.
539
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:26,231
'Cause they were like, "Amy and Emily
are knocking. Don't answer the door."
540
00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:27,983
[chuckles]
541
00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:29,859
I think there's a real effort to…
542
00:34:29,943 --> 00:34:32,654
For everybody to meet each other
and to support each other.
543
00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:35,156
- Hi. Karen.
- What's your name?
544
00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,784
I remember early on,
Amy and Emily were just like,
545
00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:40,036
"Okay, who's gonna sing with us?"
546
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,664
And I was like… [gasps]
"Really, you want me to sing with you?
547
00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:44,350
I would love to.
I wanna sing with everybody."
548
00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:45,810
She says, "Well, why aren't you asking?"
549
00:34:45,834 --> 00:34:49,004
And I was like, "You can just do that?
You can just ask?"
550
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:53,675
I remember it being a huge lesson for me.
I was like, "That was so easy."
551
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:54,926
[chuckles]
552
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:58,388
[Saliers] Just what Amy and I are really
into is making music
553
00:34:58,471 --> 00:35:00,366
a collective thing where everyone
gets together and sings.
554
00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:02,392
So those are my favorite times.
555
00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:07,272
And then the idea was born
of doing a last song all together.
556
00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:09,941
So suddenly, these artists were backstage
557
00:35:10,025 --> 00:35:12,694
practicing their harmonies,
and it was almost surreal.
558
00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:15,238
[♪ "Big Yellow Taxi" plays]
559
00:35:17,407 --> 00:35:19,409
[McLachlan] Sheryl Crow.
560
00:35:28,668 --> 00:35:32,631
I had a sense that people were
a little scared 'cause we were so gay
561
00:35:32,714 --> 00:35:35,050
and so, like, puppy dog-like
562
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:36,843
and fanning out on everybody.
563
00:35:36,926 --> 00:35:38,053
Not Sheryl.
564
00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:40,138
Do that Sheryl Crow thing
on the first two lines.
565
00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:41,723
- Whatever that thing is.
- [barks]
566
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:43,475
[musicians laugh]
567
00:35:43,558 --> 00:35:44,976
- [Ray] Ready?
- [Crow] Okay.
568
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:46,311
One. Two. Three. Four.
569
00:35:46,394 --> 00:35:47,729
[♪ "Tried to Be True" plays]
570
00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:49,105
[Ray] There it is.
571
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:51,628
[Saliers] You sound like Sheryl Crow.
572
00:36:02,035 --> 00:36:03,912
Yeah, that's good. That's good.
573
00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:05,765
[Ray] You sit in a room with them
and you realize
574
00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:08,166
how incredibly gifted they are.
575
00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:11,127
And they've made it for a reason,
you know? And it's humbling.
576
00:36:11,211 --> 00:36:14,005
Anybody that's back there, y'all,
come on out and join us.
577
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:15,590
We're gonna have a hootenanny.
578
00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:19,469
The representation for women
in rock music wasn't there,
579
00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:21,930
and then particularly for queers,
580
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:23,973
we really had to find
a lot of our own way.
581
00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:25,684
- [♪ "Closer To Fine" plays]
- [cheering]
582
00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:28,186
[Saliers] You know,
we really wanted a broader audience.
583
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,773
We just thought,
"Well, this is a great opportunity."
584
00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:35,110
[♪ Song continues]
585
00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:01,761
[♪ Yodeling]
586
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:12,564
[cheering]
587
00:37:17,444 --> 00:37:19,922
[Saliers] I was just thrilled by that
night after night after night.
588
00:37:19,946 --> 00:37:21,823
I never got tired of it.
589
00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:26,661
There were so many crystallized moments
of sheer joy, you know?
590
00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:28,413
It was of the women. [Chuckles]
591
00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:30,206
[♪ Song continues]
592
00:37:43,595 --> 00:37:48,057
[Carlile] The life-affirming experience
of watching the Indigo Girls.
593
00:37:48,141 --> 00:37:49,934
They were somehow part of the glue
594
00:37:50,018 --> 00:37:53,521
that held all that emotion together
for those women.
595
00:37:54,564 --> 00:38:00,320
And seeing those women onstage unconcerned
with whether it made them look gay
596
00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:06,117
or overtly feminist or angsty or angry
or any of the things
597
00:38:06,201 --> 00:38:08,161
that the Indigo Girls were
getting thrown at them.
598
00:38:15,877 --> 00:38:16,961
Everybody now.
599
00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:21,925
I just thought
there's so much possibility in that.
600
00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:42,570
We're calling it Camp Lilith.
It's like summer camp
601
00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:45,365
because basically all the artists'
dressing room doors are open,
602
00:38:45,448 --> 00:38:47,575
everybody's playing acoustic guitar
on the floor
603
00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,261
and sitting around
singing each other's songs.
604
00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:51,329
- [screaming]
- [cheering]
605
00:38:51,412 --> 00:38:55,625
It's just a really great,
positive, ego-free energy.
606
00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:58,253
[♪ "Lovefool" plays]
607
00:39:01,548 --> 00:39:04,133
[Jewel] I remember Lilith
just became a freight train.
608
00:39:04,217 --> 00:39:07,595
Like, holy smokes, this took on
a life of its own that you can't control.
609
00:39:09,097 --> 00:39:10,306
It kept snowballing.
610
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:14,352
Every day, it evolved and changed
and it grew into so many different things.
611
00:39:15,311 --> 00:39:20,149
I don't know if any of us were
understanding the magnitude of it.
612
00:39:20,984 --> 00:39:24,028
[reporter] Audience reactionto Lilith Fair was overwhelming.
613
00:39:24,654 --> 00:39:26,406
[reporter 2] Thousands of ticket sales,
614
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:28,741
hundreds of millions
of dollars in revenue.
615
00:39:29,576 --> 00:39:31,828
[McLachlan] Look at what's being created.
616
00:39:31,911 --> 00:39:34,873
Look at the beautiful feeling,
look at the sisterhood
617
00:39:34,956 --> 00:39:37,458
and everybody out there
having this amazing experience.
618
00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:40,753
It was the best drug in the world.
619
00:39:41,754 --> 00:39:47,802
It was as if we had been out there
exploring the galaxy kind of all alone,
620
00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:49,864
and when we showed up
and there were all these tour buses
621
00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:51,723
and all these different women artists,
622
00:39:51,806 --> 00:39:54,350
it was like, "Whoa. Is this heaven?"
623
00:39:55,018 --> 00:39:57,145
[♪ "Lovefool" continues]
624
00:39:58,021 --> 00:39:59,272
And there was a lot of glitter.
625
00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:03,693
Sometimes I still find glitter,
like, in my underwear.
626
00:40:04,611 --> 00:40:06,691
We're making money.
We're making money for ourselves.
627
00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:08,418
We're making money for the music industry,
628
00:40:08,448 --> 00:40:10,128
so that gives us
a certain amount of power.
629
00:40:10,491 --> 00:40:13,995
Terry was the one who said,
"Well, what if we get a company
630
00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:17,582
to give us a hundred thousand dollars
and talk about how they can also give
631
00:40:17,665 --> 00:40:19,375
the same amount of money to a charity?"
632
00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:25,089
They were really looking at sponsors
who were true to the cause.
633
00:40:25,173 --> 00:40:27,133
Nobody was really doing that.
634
00:40:27,717 --> 00:40:29,636
[♪ "Who Will Save Your Soul" plays]
635
00:40:33,389 --> 00:40:36,059
She would take a dollar
from every ticket sold
636
00:40:36,142 --> 00:40:39,729
and give it to a local charity
637
00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:41,230
for every place that we went to.
638
00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:45,652
In the spirit of Lilith Fair,
in the spirit of promoting women,
639
00:40:45,735 --> 00:40:48,863
promoting a cure for this cancer
once and for all.
640
00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,699
We have given $2.5 million to charity
641
00:40:51,783 --> 00:40:56,120
which made me extremely proud
to be a part of this whole thing.
642
00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:59,082
[cheering]
643
00:41:00,041 --> 00:41:02,627
[Jewel] Everybody was doing well
on that lineup.
644
00:41:04,837 --> 00:41:06,673
We were having massive hits.
645
00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:10,551
I went from selling zero records
in three years
646
00:41:10,635 --> 00:41:12,428
to selling a million albums every month.
647
00:41:13,888 --> 00:41:17,225
Sarah was just starting to test run
her new album, Surfacing.
648
00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:22,355
[reporter] Her fourth album debutedat number two on the Billboard charts.
649
00:41:23,272 --> 00:41:26,150
[Colvin] It was all, like,
hitting us really quickly.
650
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,738
And for me, serendipitously,
651
00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:34,283
I was having a hit record
come up the charts,
652
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:37,453
and the only reason I did know
what was happening is
653
00:41:37,537 --> 00:41:40,081
because of the audiences at Lilith Fair.
654
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:42,893
- [audience cheering]
- [♪ "Sunny Came Home" plays]
655
00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:46,087
And we would start it with that…
[imitates guitar riff]
656
00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:50,008
…and my band mates and I just looked
at each other
657
00:41:50,091 --> 00:41:52,301
and we were like, "What is going on here?"
658
00:41:52,385 --> 00:41:55,096
When we started getting that reaction,
I'll just never forget it.
659
00:41:55,763 --> 00:42:00,059
[♪ "Sunny Came Home" continues]
660
00:42:28,671 --> 00:42:34,802
I never expected to play in front
of 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people, ever.
661
00:42:34,886 --> 00:42:36,387
And I felt lucky.
662
00:42:38,681 --> 00:42:42,018
[McLachlan] The first year of Lilith Fair
was such a massive success.
663
00:42:43,019 --> 00:42:45,021
And then a few months later,
664
00:42:45,104 --> 00:42:50,902
Paula, Shawn, Sheryl,
Jewel, Meredith and myself,
665
00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:54,072
we were all nominated
at that year's Grammys.
666
00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:56,199
[song ends]
667
00:42:56,282 --> 00:42:58,159
[audience cheering]
668
00:42:58,242 --> 00:43:00,203
[Colvin] This was my dream come true.
669
00:43:01,621 --> 00:43:05,416
I wrote a song that was nominated
for Grammy Awards.
670
00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:10,296
[Badu] And the Grammy goes to…
671
00:43:11,214 --> 00:43:13,841
Shawn Colvin and John Leventhal.
672
00:43:13,925 --> 00:43:17,553
Songwriter, Shawn Colvin.
John Leventhal, producer.
673
00:43:18,554 --> 00:43:19,639
This is too cool.
674
00:43:19,722 --> 00:43:22,892
We've been doing this a long time,
and, uh, it's been a long road,
675
00:43:22,975 --> 00:43:24,519
and this does matter.
676
00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:26,771
- We appreciate it, thank you.
- [audience cheers]
677
00:43:26,854 --> 00:43:29,941
We were all nominated
for multiple, multiple Grammys.
678
00:43:30,024 --> 00:43:31,692
I was nominated for seven that night.
679
00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:36,697
And now let's find out
who this year's best new artist will be.
680
00:43:36,781 --> 00:43:38,116
- Paula Cole.
- [speaker] All right.
681
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,118
[audience cheering]
682
00:43:40,868 --> 00:43:44,831
This is my dream, getting this award
from Aretha Franklin. [Chuckles]
683
00:43:46,541 --> 00:43:48,876
That was amazing.
684
00:43:50,086 --> 00:43:53,673
[Colvin] But then Paula Cole,
Sarah McLachlan and I
685
00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:57,426
were asked to share the stage
and do this medley,
686
00:43:57,510 --> 00:44:01,681
instead of each of us being able
to play our own songs.
687
00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,225
Every single song that was nominated
for Record of the Year
688
00:44:04,308 --> 00:44:07,186
should have had their own spot.
689
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:10,189
[McLachlan] At the beginning of it,
we were like, "This is bullshit."
690
00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:12,316
The other nominees, Hanson and R. Kelly,
691
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,529
got to perform on their own,
so why lump us all together?
692
00:44:16,612 --> 00:44:18,072
We were in the green room.
693
00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:20,437
Like, I know there was
a conversation of, "Do we boycott?"
694
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,327
Tonight, to celebrate
the remarkable music created
695
00:44:23,411 --> 00:44:25,997
by women last year,
here are three great performers.
696
00:44:26,873 --> 00:44:28,708
[McLachlan] Ultimately, the decision was,
697
00:44:28,791 --> 00:44:30,793
"Okay, well, we'll do it.
We're not happy about it,
698
00:44:30,877 --> 00:44:33,629
but this is not the hill
we're gonna die on today."
699
00:44:35,047 --> 00:44:38,968
[Cole] We were still made into a token.
700
00:44:39,051 --> 00:44:42,263
"Women, it's women, it's…"
[chuckles] What a notion.
701
00:44:43,598 --> 00:44:46,851
[Colvin] It was just sad. It was just sad.
702
00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:49,037
It's always haunted me,
was that the right thing to do,
703
00:44:49,061 --> 00:44:51,230
to just take what we were offered?
704
00:44:52,565 --> 00:44:56,027
Looking back on it, just say,
"No, we're not gonna perform."
705
00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:57,528
That would have been radical.
706
00:44:57,612 --> 00:44:59,332
And they might have done something
about it.
707
00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:03,242
So in my stupid fucking unmusical medley,
708
00:45:03,326 --> 00:45:05,119
I happened to raise my hand,
709
00:45:05,203 --> 00:45:07,705
and I didn't shave my armpits.
710
00:45:08,831 --> 00:45:10,666
And, like, that became a thing.
711
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:16,881
[McLachlan] I was so angry for Paula
to be diminished like that
712
00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:19,467
after such a huge night.
713
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:23,095
Who cares?
But that's what it became about.
714
00:45:23,179 --> 00:45:26,807
The desire for wealth is as natural
as Paula Cole's armpits.
715
00:45:26,891 --> 00:45:29,727
- Where have all the razor blades gone?
- Sir, please.
716
00:45:29,810 --> 00:45:31,062
Sir, please.
717
00:45:31,145 --> 00:45:34,273
I think I know why the cowboys
aren't coming around. [Laughs]
718
00:45:34,357 --> 00:45:37,151
You know what? At first, I thought
she had Don King in a headlock.
719
00:45:37,235 --> 00:45:39,237
- That's what I thought.
- [audience laughs]
720
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,447
[Cole] Then there's Jay Leno
on fucking Tonight Show
721
00:45:41,530 --> 00:45:44,033
shining his shoes
because it was such a joke.
722
00:45:44,617 --> 00:45:47,411
Then they wanted me to be on the show
and, like, laugh along with it,
723
00:45:47,495 --> 00:45:49,288
and I just… No, you know?
724
00:45:50,915 --> 00:45:54,126
[McLachlan blows]
You just pick yourself back up,
725
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:57,505
and you believe, and you keep going,
and that's what being an artist is.
726
00:45:58,965 --> 00:46:02,593
We did all this,
but, God, we're still... we're still here.
727
00:46:02,677 --> 00:46:03,761
Shit, okay.
728
00:46:05,012 --> 00:46:06,681
Well, we just gotta keep going.
729
00:46:13,646 --> 00:46:16,315
[McBride] Lilith was,
of all of the big organized festivals,
730
00:46:16,399 --> 00:46:20,152
was the most successful monetarily
and, uh, everybody loved it.
731
00:46:22,113 --> 00:46:25,783
Lilith Fair was a huge success,
so Sarah decided to do it again.
732
00:46:31,664 --> 00:46:33,749
[Diamond]
As many accolades as we were getting,
733
00:46:34,959 --> 00:46:36,794
we were getting slammed
every once in a while,
734
00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:38,504
being called "Lily-white Fair,"
735
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,549
that there wasn't enough diversity.
736
00:46:48,848 --> 00:46:52,393
[reporter] How intentional was it that
there was no hip-hop artists or anything?
737
00:46:52,476 --> 00:46:56,605
I suppose, uh, the lineup is not
as diverse as it could be.
738
00:46:56,689 --> 00:46:59,317
[Saliers] I remember when the criticism
was first coming in,
739
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,777
she was very open-minded to accepting it,
740
00:47:01,861 --> 00:47:03,529
working her way through it, you know,
741
00:47:03,612 --> 00:47:05,740
admitting that maybe mistakes were made.
742
00:47:05,823 --> 00:47:07,742
That's something
I've always admired about her
743
00:47:07,825 --> 00:47:10,661
was her public discussion of,
"Well, let me think about that.
744
00:47:10,745 --> 00:47:13,873
Maybe you're right, maybe there's
something more I need to think about."
745
00:47:13,956 --> 00:47:17,877
We're growing and-and learning as we go
because this is the first time,
746
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,087
like I said, any of us have done this.
747
00:47:20,171 --> 00:47:23,007
So, there's lots of little mistakes,
but they're all lessons,
748
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:26,177
they're all valuable lessons, you know,
that enable us to get better.
749
00:47:27,762 --> 00:47:31,182
[Diamond] In year one, we had
an opportunity that we never seized.
750
00:47:31,807 --> 00:47:35,519
We need to really do outreach
in terms of other artists
751
00:47:35,603 --> 00:47:38,856
and live in the solution, not the problem.
752
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,025
And as a matter of fact, Lilith '98,
753
00:47:41,108 --> 00:47:43,778
they're talking about the addition now
of some of the R&B acts,
754
00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:45,654
and Erykah Badu is gonna be added.
755
00:47:46,655 --> 00:47:50,117
I'm Erykah Badu,
and I'd like to thank you for having me.
756
00:47:50,201 --> 00:47:51,786
[audience cheers]
757
00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:54,163
[♪ "On & On" plays]
758
00:48:14,892 --> 00:48:16,769
This is the best concert
I've ever been to.
759
00:48:16,852 --> 00:48:18,062
Who's your favorite?
760
00:48:18,854 --> 00:48:20,940
Oh. Erykah Badu. Definitely.
761
00:48:22,191 --> 00:48:26,195
[Badu] I know
that being a part of the Lilith Fair
762
00:48:26,278 --> 00:48:28,280
expanded my audience greatly.
763
00:48:28,364 --> 00:48:32,660
You know, people who would not get to hear
of an Erykah Badu,
764
00:48:32,743 --> 00:48:37,081
or listen to even my type
of genre of music
765
00:48:37,164 --> 00:48:38,958
- were exposed to it.
- [audience cheers]
766
00:48:39,041 --> 00:48:43,129
I just adorn myself with my culture
and share that with everybody.
767
00:48:43,212 --> 00:48:47,383
Come as I am and, you know, they accept it
and love it because I am me.
768
00:48:49,009 --> 00:48:50,845
I just thought that was the way it was,
769
00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:53,222
because before, I hadn't experienced
770
00:48:53,305 --> 00:48:57,893
any of the negative stuff that happens.
771
00:48:57,977 --> 00:49:02,523
My welcome into the industry was
by Sarah McLachlan and Bonnie Raitt.
772
00:49:02,606 --> 00:49:05,317
- [drums rolling]
- [audience cheering]
773
00:49:10,197 --> 00:49:14,160
[McLachlan] And we grew
the commercial viability of the festival
774
00:49:14,243 --> 00:49:16,662
because we had a diverse group of artists.
775
00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:25,963
[Crow] What we hadn't seen
on other festivals was
776
00:49:26,046 --> 00:49:30,718
a very mixed genre platform.
777
00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:35,973
It was, like, Emmylou Harris
or Meshell Ndegeocello.
778
00:49:36,056 --> 00:49:38,058
Then you had Missy Elliott.
779
00:49:38,934 --> 00:49:43,147
They were women that were all
at the top of their game in their world.
780
00:49:46,025 --> 00:49:48,402
[Coppola]
Missy Elliott was already an icon.
781
00:49:49,195 --> 00:49:51,447
She was the shit.
782
00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:55,618
And when I found out
she was doing a short set,
783
00:49:55,701 --> 00:49:58,704
yeah, it's a big fucking deal.
It's Missy Elliott. Come on.
784
00:50:00,414 --> 00:50:02,166
[McLachlan] I loved Missy Elliott.
785
00:50:02,249 --> 00:50:04,251
But when we booked her,
she'd never toured before.
786
00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:07,379
She did her first touring dates on Lilith.
787
00:50:07,463 --> 00:50:11,425
You could just feel the energy of the day
just kind of build and build and build.
788
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:15,638
[Rempel]
She was meant to arrive at a certain time,
789
00:50:15,721 --> 00:50:17,723
and there's no Missy Elliott.
790
00:50:17,806 --> 00:50:19,475
And then we get a call, it's like,
791
00:50:19,558 --> 00:50:23,103
"Oh, hey. Uh, my bus broke down.
I'm on a highway five miles away.
792
00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:25,689
- "But I'm gonna get there."
- [car tires screech]
793
00:50:25,773 --> 00:50:29,485
Five minutes later,
this red convertible pulls up,
794
00:50:29,568 --> 00:50:31,904
some dude she's flagged down
on the highway.
795
00:50:31,987 --> 00:50:35,074
She comes out,
she puts on her inflatable suit.
796
00:50:35,157 --> 00:50:38,369
- What's up, y'all?
- [Rempel] And it happened.
797
00:50:38,452 --> 00:50:39,745
- Uh.
- [audience cheers]
798
00:50:39,828 --> 00:50:43,290
Hey, yo, you know what? Me, I'm supa fly.
799
00:50:43,374 --> 00:50:46,877
And you're about to get up.
Get up with me.
800
00:50:46,961 --> 00:50:50,381
All of a sudden,
you see the audience respond to her.
801
00:50:53,968 --> 00:50:56,554
And she fucking nailed that shit.
802
00:50:56,637 --> 00:51:00,099
[♪ "Sock It 2 Me" plays]
803
00:51:19,201 --> 00:51:20,911
[Elliott] It was a beautiful thing.
804
00:51:20,995 --> 00:51:23,998
I don't know that I was gonna get
the response that I got.
805
00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:27,418
I felt good
when I was first asked, you know.
806
00:51:28,586 --> 00:51:30,879
And this only just
put the icing on the cake.
807
00:51:30,963 --> 00:51:32,172
Ladies.
808
00:51:32,256 --> 00:51:34,300
[♪ "Ladies First" plays]
809
00:51:35,551 --> 00:51:37,052
Come on. Yeah.
810
00:51:57,948 --> 00:52:00,451
This is one of the best tours
I've ever been on.
811
00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:03,412
I came out on the road
to rock these stages,
812
00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:04,997
and I wanted to do it.
813
00:52:05,831 --> 00:52:08,542
I think it's a good thing
that we highlight ourselves
814
00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:11,545
and give ourselves, you know,
give the ladies in that audience
815
00:52:11,629 --> 00:52:13,464
a positive image to look at.
816
00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:15,267
Of women who are out here
doing their thing.
817
00:52:15,341 --> 00:52:16,508
[♪ "Ready To Run" plays]
818
00:52:16,592 --> 00:52:20,220
You got Dixie Chicks
who bring you kind of a country feeling.
819
00:52:20,304 --> 00:52:22,681
We doing it, that's all I can really say.
820
00:52:38,989 --> 00:52:42,618
The irony is
the people who criticized never went.
821
00:52:47,122 --> 00:52:48,123
[song ends]
822
00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:59,301
Early on,
there were a lot of female critics
823
00:52:59,927 --> 00:53:02,429
who kinda ripped the crap out of us.
824
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:09,228
I just don't know
how much more of these little, waifish
825
00:53:09,311 --> 00:53:11,313
alternative singers I can take.
826
00:53:13,857 --> 00:53:17,277
Now please, just give me an old-fashioned,
827
00:53:17,361 --> 00:53:21,490
sweaty, big-tittied bitch
of rock and roll, okay?
828
00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:22,950
[audience cheers]
829
00:53:23,033 --> 00:53:27,913
Before I really knew that much about it,
I just assumed it was sort of very, um,
830
00:53:27,996 --> 00:53:31,291
like Ladies, you know, of the Canyon vibe.
831
00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:34,420
The earnestness of it
made it a little bit like
832
00:53:34,503 --> 00:53:37,715
this was not to be taken
as seriously as it should have been.
833
00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:41,135
I was kinda, like, poking at it
one minute, but why am I poking at it?
834
00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:43,846
'Cause I really would like to be…
hang out with all these people.
835
00:53:44,847 --> 00:53:46,557
That's really what I wanted to do.
836
00:53:47,182 --> 00:53:50,853
I said, "Just come.
Come and see this and witness it,
837
00:53:50,936 --> 00:53:52,521
and I think you'll change your mind."
838
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,691
[Bernhard]
Sarah McLachlan called me, and she said,
839
00:53:55,774 --> 00:53:59,653
"Sandra, we're putting together
somewhat of an experiment. It could fail.
840
00:53:59,737 --> 00:54:02,656
We need your light, your love,
your energy. Will you be there for us?"
841
00:54:02,740 --> 00:54:04,616
I said, "You better believe it, baby."
842
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:06,785
- [cheering]
- [applause]
843
00:54:06,869 --> 00:54:08,370
They brought people like me on.
844
00:54:08,454 --> 00:54:10,914
So they wanted somebody with some edge.
845
00:54:10,998 --> 00:54:14,460
And then the dates that I was on,
Chrissie Hynde was on.
846
00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:16,879
And then the two of us were, like,
stirring shit up.
847
00:54:18,255 --> 00:54:22,468
Now, when these women wrote a lyric and
sang a song, you know they had lived it.
848
00:54:22,551 --> 00:54:23,737
They wrote it, sang it, snorted it.
849
00:54:23,761 --> 00:54:25,697
They fucked it. They lived it.
They created the road.
850
00:54:25,721 --> 00:54:27,556
There was no road before these women.
851
00:54:28,307 --> 00:54:31,018
One, two… One, two, drink your beer!
852
00:54:31,101 --> 00:54:34,021
[♪ "Message of Love" plays]
853
00:54:34,646 --> 00:54:38,442
[McBride] At first, Chrissie Hynde
was not a big advocate of Lilith Fair.
854
00:54:38,525 --> 00:54:40,527
[McLachlan]
She came on with a bit of an attitude.
855
00:54:40,611 --> 00:54:43,781
She was like, "I don't even know
what I'm doing here with you bitches."
856
00:54:43,864 --> 00:54:45,073
And as the shows went on,
857
00:54:45,157 --> 00:54:47,826
she warmed up and went, "Oh,
this is actually… this is really fun."
858
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:50,746
[♪ "Message of Love" continues]
859
00:54:57,503 --> 00:54:59,588
[McLachlan] During "Middle of the Road,"
860
00:54:59,671 --> 00:55:03,342
I basically went and flashed them
right before the solo.
861
00:55:03,842 --> 00:55:06,345
[audience cheers]
862
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:10,974
Gobsmacked, Chrissie falls to her knees
and makes a big deal.
863
00:55:11,058 --> 00:55:13,602
I was like, "Yes.
I brought Chrissie Hynde to her knees."
864
00:55:13,685 --> 00:55:15,562
I saw them. [Chuckles]
865
00:55:16,855 --> 00:55:19,399
And, my God, they were beautiful.
866
00:55:22,027 --> 00:55:23,904
[Hynde]
Well, they think I'm such a hard-ass.
867
00:55:23,987 --> 00:55:26,990
I thought it would be a little bit more
flowy dresses and stuff, you know.
868
00:55:27,491 --> 00:55:29,034
But it was just a good tour to get on.
869
00:55:29,117 --> 00:55:30,536
I don't care that it's women.
870
00:55:30,619 --> 00:55:33,664
[♪ "Message Of Love" continues]
871
00:55:42,756 --> 00:55:45,175
If you're talking about women in rock,
872
00:55:45,259 --> 00:55:47,302
if you must,
and it is just a media fabrication,
873
00:55:47,386 --> 00:55:49,388
'cause no one really thinks
about stuff like this.
874
00:55:49,471 --> 00:55:50,764
There's a lot of pages to fill.
875
00:55:50,848 --> 00:55:55,310
It's mostly the girl journalists that
give me all this "women in rock" thing.
876
00:55:55,394 --> 00:55:56,770
[♪ "Bitch" plays]
877
00:55:56,854 --> 00:55:59,898
[Powers] I was working at Spin
and The New York Times.
878
00:56:00,607 --> 00:56:05,737
Every year was "the year
of women in rock." Every single year.
879
00:56:05,821 --> 00:56:09,157
That was something that I just rolled with
because I didn't have any choice.
880
00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:15,122
You tell a bunch of boys
that there's going to be this festival
881
00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:19,001
targeted at young women, ah,
you know what their reaction's gonna be.
882
00:56:19,084 --> 00:56:22,296
It's not gonna be, "Yeah, let's go."
It's gonna be a laugh.
883
00:56:22,379 --> 00:56:24,423
Because it's aimed at the wrong people.
884
00:56:25,591 --> 00:56:27,426
It's aimed at regular women.
885
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,139
Somehow, by the '90s,
we had developed this idea
886
00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:35,684
the teenage girl is this frivolous person.
887
00:56:35,767 --> 00:56:38,270
And forget adult women.
888
00:56:39,313 --> 00:56:43,859
The idea that a mom would wanna go
to a musical festival? Oh, my goodness.
889
00:56:43,942 --> 00:56:45,694
[♪ "Bitch" continues]
890
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:08,759
Just walking in and seeing
all the women together,
891
00:57:08,842 --> 00:57:12,930
after going to concerts for 15 years
892
00:57:13,013 --> 00:57:16,433
and only being, you know,
one of few women among men,
893
00:57:16,516 --> 00:57:18,602
that was such a great shift.
894
00:57:19,394 --> 00:57:24,608
That felt amazing to me as, like,
a longtime music fan and music critic,
895
00:57:24,691 --> 00:57:26,985
but also weird.
896
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:33,784
Lilith Fair came from
a very radical place,
897
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:38,830
but in the moment,
it felt totally mainstream,
898
00:57:38,914 --> 00:57:39,998
totally in the center.
899
00:57:40,082 --> 00:57:41,917
And that was its power.
900
00:57:44,086 --> 00:57:49,466
Every day we did this press conference,
which was a pain in the ass.
901
00:57:51,802 --> 00:57:53,303
Just something I've been reading,
902
00:57:53,387 --> 00:57:56,306
people referring to this show
as "Chick-apalooza" and your reaction.
903
00:58:03,897 --> 00:58:06,108
[McLachlan]
It was hard. It was also embarrassing.
904
00:58:06,191 --> 00:58:08,068
It was frustrating because I felt like,
905
00:58:08,151 --> 00:58:10,445
you know, sometimes
the criticism wasn't warranted.
906
00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:15,826
"Here's my stock ten adjectives that
I'm going to punch in to this review."
907
00:58:15,909 --> 00:58:19,454
And I don't find anybody adequately
critiques anything anymore.
908
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,915
Calling it "Vulva-palooza"
909
00:58:21,999 --> 00:58:27,295
and, like, all of these just
ridiculously derogatory crazy things.
910
00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:30,507
There were many times
I wanted to say, "Fuck you."
911
00:58:30,590 --> 00:58:33,552
[reporter] Don't you lose some power
when you become mainstream?
912
00:58:33,635 --> 00:58:36,304
[sighs] I want it to be successful.
913
00:58:36,388 --> 00:58:38,098
[journalist]
914
00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:43,687
I think the danger lies
in the media lumping all women together.
915
00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:45,731
[reporter]
Time magazine last week just reported
916
00:58:45,814 --> 00:58:47,291
"The death of feminism." Is this true?
917
00:58:47,315 --> 00:58:52,237
Oh, please. The death of feminism?
Okay, well, are we as women dead?
918
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,699
The most idiotic questions.
919
00:58:55,782 --> 00:58:59,703
I just wanna know if any of you guys wanna
dish some dirt on-on your fellow artists?
920
00:59:00,287 --> 00:59:02,098
[reporter] Do you guys have
a slumber party in between shows?
921
00:59:02,122 --> 00:59:04,458
[reporter 2]
Is it still mostly a chick thing?
922
00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:07,461
[reporter 3] Respond to
the criticism that, "They must hate men."
923
00:59:07,544 --> 00:59:10,088
[reporter 4]
Man-haters. These women hate men.
924
00:59:10,172 --> 00:59:13,800
I don't think, personally, that any of us
necessarily are against men.
925
00:59:14,384 --> 00:59:17,512
[reporter 5] The perception being
that this music is for women only.
926
00:59:17,596 --> 00:59:20,098
I don't understand
why it's considered exclusionary.
927
00:59:20,724 --> 00:59:23,560
I think when we were just
getting lambasted by the press,
928
00:59:23,643 --> 00:59:26,855
one time I said,
"God, maybe we should include men."
929
00:59:26,938 --> 00:59:31,109
We also plan to be… starting
to include men as headliners as well.
930
00:59:31,193 --> 00:59:34,613
Emmylou was like, "Whoa, whoa, honey."
931
00:59:34,696 --> 00:59:36,698
[chuckles]
932
00:59:36,782 --> 00:59:40,577
"Can I just say, don't go there."
933
00:59:41,203 --> 00:59:44,498
She said, "Let it be what it is.
Y-You got this."
934
00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:48,543
And I was like, "Yeah, I do. Thank you."
935
00:59:49,628 --> 00:59:53,882
Well, I mean, at that point, it seemed
to me it was already a success.
936
00:59:54,591 --> 00:59:58,637
So I can't imagine why
she would've felt any doubt.
937
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,516
When you think back
to before there was Lilith Fair,
938
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:04,726
there was so much opposition to it.
939
01:00:04,810 --> 01:00:08,897
There was so much negativity
about the fact that we were…
940
01:00:08,980 --> 01:00:14,444
But I can't, uh, emphasize enough
what Sarah has accomplished.
941
01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:19,116
Women are political simply for saying,
"I deserve space."
942
01:00:20,075 --> 01:00:23,370
People read too much into this,
into Lilith, and make an issue.
943
01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:26,182
Because that's how everyone makes a living
by making an issue out of something.
944
01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:28,434
Actually, it just happens
that they're all women artists,
945
01:00:28,458 --> 01:00:31,378
and no one's really making
a big statement, do you know what I mean?
946
01:00:33,338 --> 01:00:35,423
[McLachlan]
Sinéad was treated horribly by the press
947
01:00:35,507 --> 01:00:38,260
and wider culture for speaking out,
948
01:00:38,343 --> 01:00:42,347
and being her authentic self,
unapologetic.
949
01:00:42,430 --> 01:00:45,392
We were all so inspired by her honesty.
950
01:00:45,475 --> 01:00:48,854
[reporter] Your website says a special
guest will open the show at 4:40.
951
01:00:48,937 --> 01:00:51,356
- Yeah, well, we'll have to see…
- [audience member chuckles]
952
01:00:52,649 --> 01:00:55,402
[all laugh]
953
01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:58,822
[O'Connor] To get there and find that I
was so kind of respected by those women
954
01:00:58,905 --> 01:01:03,368
was a major boost to my kind of confidence
and self-esteem, you know what I mean?
955
01:01:03,451 --> 01:01:05,787
That in the very male world,
you can often feel…
956
01:01:05,871 --> 01:01:07,765
In the male world of media
and the music business
957
01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:10,629
you can often feel very unheard
as a woman artist, you know what I mean?
958
01:01:10,709 --> 01:01:12,711
But I realized actually
that I had been heard.
959
01:01:13,503 --> 01:01:16,381
Yes, I found it a very healing experience.
960
01:01:16,464 --> 01:01:18,508
[♪ "Fire On Babylon" plays]
961
01:01:18,592 --> 01:01:21,094
[Merchant] Nobody missed her set ever.
962
01:01:21,178 --> 01:01:26,308
She would walk out on stage
and open her mouth and the sound…
963
01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:32,480
One of the most chilling sounds I've ever
heard was Sinéad crying "Fire on Babylon"
964
01:01:32,564 --> 01:01:36,318
through a massive wall of speakers
to 35,000 people.
965
01:01:37,444 --> 01:01:39,738
[♪ Song continues]
966
01:02:08,141 --> 01:02:11,478
[McLachlan] Sinéad was really
important for me to have on,
967
01:02:11,561 --> 01:02:16,608
because I was so in awe of her
and her immense power.
968
01:02:16,691 --> 01:02:18,276
[audience cheers]
969
01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:26,576
And then to get to know her a little bit
and to see the vulnerability.
970
01:02:26,660 --> 01:02:28,954
[♪ "Angel" plays]
971
01:03:28,096 --> 01:03:29,848
She's showing me the way.
972
01:03:30,557 --> 01:03:32,934
If I can create
something half as good as her.
973
01:03:36,730 --> 01:03:40,317
I keep telling people
that if the world outside the Lilith Fair
974
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,987
were more like this, I'd wanna spend
more time out there, you know? [Chuckles]
975
01:03:45,322 --> 01:03:47,449
[Diamond]
In year two, we needed a co-headliner,
976
01:03:48,033 --> 01:03:50,327
and our first call
and only call was Natalie.
977
01:03:51,995 --> 01:03:56,291
Natalie really embodied free spirit.
She had a freakin' swing.
978
01:03:56,374 --> 01:03:58,835
[♪ "Kind & Generous" plays]
979
01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:01,212
[Merchant] It just sounded like
an incredible opportunity,
980
01:04:01,296 --> 01:04:03,590
because when I left 10,000 Maniacs
981
01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:06,593
after 12 years of feeling like
I was the last woman on earth.
982
01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:10,388
I had made a concerted effort
to distance myself
983
01:04:10,472 --> 01:04:13,933
from what was going on
in the business of music.
984
01:04:14,642 --> 01:04:19,522
But Lilith was gentle and friendly,
and I loved that.
985
01:04:19,606 --> 01:04:21,900
- We're at Lilith Fair. Yeah.
- We're best friends.
986
01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,234
Is it on?
987
01:04:23,318 --> 01:04:24,958
- Now press the red button.
- I already did.
988
01:04:24,986 --> 01:04:26,196
- Hello, world.
- Hi, world.
989
01:04:26,279 --> 01:04:30,658
You're saving lives here.
And you're opening up a world
990
01:04:30,742 --> 01:04:34,746
to people who would have no way
of getting there, any other way.
991
01:04:34,829 --> 01:04:35,830
It's the coolest place
992
01:04:35,914 --> 01:04:39,167
because everybody can express themselves
internally and externally
993
01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:40,251
and everyone's accepted.
994
01:04:40,335 --> 01:04:44,214
It's like a get-together place,
like, where everyone can get together and…
995
01:04:44,297 --> 01:04:45,548
- Have fun.
- …have fun.
996
01:04:45,632 --> 01:04:48,468
It's been such an inspiration
to all our lives.
997
01:04:48,551 --> 01:04:53,098
And I'm grateful to be here today.
My heart is truly glad. I love you, Sarah.
998
01:04:53,181 --> 01:04:55,534
- You're the only one that would listen.
- You're here. Thank you.
999
01:04:55,558 --> 01:04:56,559
Thank you very much.
1000
01:04:56,643 --> 01:04:57,953
- Feel so much better now.
- Me too.
1001
01:04:57,977 --> 01:05:01,898
I'm really happy that there's something
like this that can help.
1002
01:05:02,982 --> 01:05:04,818
I'm crying. I have to go back out there.
1003
01:05:04,901 --> 01:05:07,112
[♪ "Kind & Generous" continues]
1004
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:10,740
[Merchant]
1005
01:05:16,037 --> 01:05:17,372
Oh!
1006
01:05:26,881 --> 01:05:31,553
[Levy] When I attended Lilith Fair,
it was a gorgeously sunny day,
1007
01:05:31,636 --> 01:05:32,929
but there's also the possibility
1008
01:05:33,012 --> 01:05:38,143
that my memory is just wrapped
in this golden, sepia glow
1009
01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:44,482
because being there was one of
the earliest memories I've had of safety.
1010
01:05:46,401 --> 01:05:50,947
I was 12 or 13 at the time
and still in the closet
1011
01:05:51,448 --> 01:05:55,910
and had been bullied and never really
felt safe anywhere that I was
1012
01:05:55,994 --> 01:05:57,454
because I wasn't being myself.
1013
01:05:58,997 --> 01:06:04,169
But when you look around
and you see people smiling and laughing
1014
01:06:04,252 --> 01:06:06,212
and holding on to each other,
1015
01:06:07,672 --> 01:06:12,886
and you just had people who were
seeing themselves, celebrating themselves,
1016
01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:16,306
it felt like this
kind of quiet revolution.
1017
01:06:16,389 --> 01:06:19,726
I was like, "What is this freedom?
1018
01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:22,896
So many happy people,
hugging and kissing."
1019
01:06:29,402 --> 01:06:34,449
I am the Lilith Fairy.
F-A-I-R… "Fair" with a "y."
1020
01:06:34,532 --> 01:06:36,576
I came here and I was very timid.
1021
01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:40,121
Being surrounded by so many strong women
helped me come out to myself
1022
01:06:40,205 --> 01:06:42,123
and to be totally honest
and not to be inhibited
1023
01:06:42,207 --> 01:06:43,458
around other people anymore.
1024
01:06:43,541 --> 01:06:45,461
- It just helped me so much.
- [concert goer] Whoo!
1025
01:06:47,170 --> 01:06:49,005
[Nguyen] When I think back,
1026
01:06:50,298 --> 01:06:52,008
I think was 12 years old.
1027
01:06:53,384 --> 01:06:57,639
Being queer, but at that age,
not understanding what that was.
1028
01:06:58,932 --> 01:07:02,185
To that point,
I'd never been to a real concert.
1029
01:07:03,603 --> 01:07:07,232
I recall groups of
queer friends or whatever.
1030
01:07:07,315 --> 01:07:09,115
But at the time,
it didn't occur to me at all.
1031
01:07:09,150 --> 01:07:11,194
I was just like, "These people look fun."
1032
01:07:13,238 --> 01:07:15,448
But I have to be honest,
1033
01:07:15,532 --> 01:07:19,160
I think misogyny and homophobia
made it an easy target.
1034
01:07:19,827 --> 01:07:22,830
It's almost as though you wouldn't hear it
referenced in the mainstream
1035
01:07:22,914 --> 01:07:25,416
without it being the joke.
1036
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:28,419
The largest collection
of female rock singers ever
1037
01:07:28,503 --> 01:07:29,504
to tour together.
1038
01:07:29,587 --> 01:07:31,923
I wrote a song about it,
and I'd like to share it.
1039
01:07:32,006 --> 01:07:33,758
I think it'll really move some people.
1040
01:07:33,841 --> 01:07:37,136
- It's called, uh, "Sausage of Pain."
- [audience laughs]
1041
01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:40,306
Listen to me. I'm a bi-level haircut away
from Lilith Fair.
1042
01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:47,272
And so, I just tried to be a part
of that more dominant narrative
1043
01:07:47,355 --> 01:07:49,941
of this fucking joke, you know.
1044
01:07:50,024 --> 01:07:52,735
Like, I'm also in on the joke,
so don't… You know?
1045
01:07:52,819 --> 01:07:54,487
I won't be associated
1046
01:07:54,571 --> 01:07:57,907
with what you think that was, you know?
1047
01:07:58,533 --> 01:08:00,868
But, I mean, how devastating is that?
1048
01:08:00,952 --> 01:08:04,581
You know, I participated
in the disparagement
1049
01:08:04,664 --> 01:08:09,002
of my own components.
1050
01:08:15,758 --> 01:08:17,903
[concertgoer] I think it's one of
the only places that you can go
1051
01:08:17,927 --> 01:08:23,725
where being a racist or a homophobe
or somebody like that,
1052
01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:24,934
you're in the minority.
1053
01:08:25,018 --> 01:08:26,728
[cheering]
1054
01:08:26,811 --> 01:08:29,606
[Vega] The media's perception was
that it was all women,
1055
01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:31,709
but actually,
there were a lot of men who came
1056
01:08:31,733 --> 01:08:34,319
because they love women
and they wanted to see women performing.
1057
01:08:34,402 --> 01:08:37,071
- We're here to see Sarah McLachlan!
- Whoo!
1058
01:08:37,155 --> 01:08:39,324
No other way to say it.
It's Sarah McLachlan.
1059
01:08:39,407 --> 01:08:42,910
She is the best.
She brings out the love in all of us.
1060
01:08:44,454 --> 01:08:48,791
[McLachlan] Every festival that I knew of,
I wouldn't wanna go.
1061
01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:51,669
Because I don't think
I'd feel particularly safe.
1062
01:08:54,547 --> 01:08:58,635
And I feel like Lilith is
sort of the antithesis of that.
1063
01:08:58,718 --> 01:09:00,803
[♪ "Never Said" plays]
1064
01:09:02,138 --> 01:09:04,724
[cheering]
1065
01:09:29,332 --> 01:09:34,420
[Phair] There was no question
that everyone who was there was welcome.
1066
01:09:34,504 --> 01:09:36,589
They were not just coming to see music.
1067
01:09:36,673 --> 01:09:39,133
They were coming to support an idea.
1068
01:09:39,217 --> 01:09:42,595
I can be safe. I can be respected.
1069
01:09:42,679 --> 01:09:44,430
I can be open.
1070
01:09:45,932 --> 01:09:48,309
I haven't been on a bill like that.
1071
01:09:49,310 --> 01:09:51,938
That was a very Sarah experience.
1072
01:09:52,021 --> 01:09:54,065
- [squeals]
- [giggles]
1073
01:09:54,148 --> 01:09:55,983
I'm not slipping in my tongue. I'm not.
1074
01:09:59,153 --> 01:10:03,491
[Vega] The way she interacted
with people backstage was humble.
1075
01:10:03,574 --> 01:10:06,202
It was kind.
It was very deeply spiritual.
1076
01:10:06,285 --> 01:10:09,831
She would leave you little gifts.
She would leave little notes.
1077
01:10:09,914 --> 01:10:11,999
[song ends]
1078
01:10:12,834 --> 01:10:15,795
[Merchant] Sarah thought
this is our home away from home.
1079
01:10:15,878 --> 01:10:18,172
Let's make it feel that way.
1080
01:10:19,799 --> 01:10:22,260
There were pillows and tapestries…
[chuckles]
1081
01:10:22,343 --> 01:10:26,723
…and people handing their babies off
to each other as they walked on stage.
1082
01:10:27,306 --> 01:10:28,558
Lots of breastfeeding going on
1083
01:10:28,641 --> 01:10:31,352
and people bringing
their mothers to the tour.
1084
01:10:33,146 --> 01:10:37,275
[Colvin] Lilith Fair was the place to
perform if you were nine months pregnant.
1085
01:10:37,984 --> 01:10:40,737
I felt like it was perfect.
1086
01:10:42,238 --> 01:10:45,908
[McLachlan]
Erykah brought a baby to the tour.
1087
01:10:45,992 --> 01:10:49,328
[♪ "What's Going On" plays]
1088
01:11:02,383 --> 01:11:04,177
[Badu] I was a new mom.
1089
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:09,098
I was going through, uh, the changes
that we go through as women.
1090
01:11:09,974 --> 01:11:13,770
And they really catered
to my feminine emotions
1091
01:11:13,853 --> 01:11:17,064
and sensibilities and needs.
1092
01:11:17,148 --> 01:11:19,859
[♪ Song continues]
1093
01:11:34,207 --> 01:11:39,670
[Merchant] What I value was
the tangibility that I saw of mothering
1094
01:11:40,254 --> 01:11:43,341
and being an artist coexisting.
1095
01:11:50,139 --> 01:11:53,768
And then having Bonnie Raitt scream
in my ear,
1096
01:11:53,851 --> 01:11:56,521
"I've waited my whole life for this."
You know?
1097
01:11:58,272 --> 01:12:01,275
Is this the camera I look into when I cry?
[laughs]
1098
01:12:02,443 --> 01:12:04,445
[♪ "What's Going On" continues]
1099
01:12:21,796 --> 01:12:23,923
The vibe was different.
It was less competitive
1100
01:12:24,006 --> 01:12:25,424
and a little bit more considerate.
1101
01:12:25,508 --> 01:12:28,344
There was just less macho posturing.
1102
01:12:28,427 --> 01:12:32,557
It was just revolutionary and new to me,
because it just hadn't happened before.
1103
01:12:34,976 --> 01:12:37,186
[♪ "If It Makes You Happy" plays]
1104
01:12:41,232 --> 01:12:44,151
[Raitt] The feeling of camaraderie
was palpable.
1105
01:12:44,235 --> 01:12:46,028
There was geographic coming together,
1106
01:12:46,112 --> 01:12:49,657
generational coming together
and musical coming together
1107
01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:52,827
in a way that we wouldn't have intersected
probably before.
1108
01:12:52,910 --> 01:12:54,912
[♪ Song continues]
1109
01:13:00,459 --> 01:13:05,172
For me to share the stage
with Bonnie Raitt, who, when I was 17,
1110
01:13:05,256 --> 01:13:08,843
she was the first woman I'd ever seen
front a band holding a guitar.
1111
01:13:08,926 --> 01:13:11,888
And she actually inspired me
to do what I'm doing.
1112
01:13:11,971 --> 01:13:15,391
[♪ "If It Makes You Happy" continues]
1113
01:13:36,495 --> 01:13:40,291
[Badu] She has so much experience
and she was so comfortable.
1114
01:13:40,374 --> 01:13:43,878
She waved a lot of that around
like a wand,
1115
01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:46,881
and we all were infected by it.
1116
01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:52,678
- Bonnie Raitt!
- [audience cheers]
1117
01:13:53,304 --> 01:13:56,432
[McLachlan] We had such a range of talent,from icons like Bonnie
1118
01:13:56,515 --> 01:13:59,515
to artists who were just starting their
careers, being discovered at Lilith.
1119
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,230
So you have… Basically the B stage is
right over home plate.
1120
01:14:04,106 --> 01:14:07,818
We can do all kinds of different things
that happen to help promote artists.
1121
01:14:07,902 --> 01:14:10,988
'Cause the thing with Lilith is
we gotta be able to break new talent.
1122
01:14:11,072 --> 01:14:14,075
[♪ "It's All About Me" plays]
1123
01:14:21,374 --> 01:14:24,752
- You're really young too, right?
- Yeah. I'm 19 years old.
1124
01:14:24,835 --> 01:14:29,173
This is a great opportunity that
I'm not gonna get, you know, all the time.
1125
01:14:30,174 --> 01:14:34,679
And also you have new artists
that aren't exactly heard of yet
1126
01:14:34,762 --> 01:14:35,888
and are being discovered.
1127
01:14:35,972 --> 01:14:40,726
- [cheering]
- [♪ "At Last" plays]
1128
01:14:48,901 --> 01:14:52,154
We had Christina on a ten-by-ten deck
1129
01:14:52,238 --> 01:14:54,949
in the middle of the field,
next to the bathrooms.
1130
01:14:55,032 --> 01:14:56,784
And suddenly, this girl starts to sing,
1131
01:14:56,867 --> 01:14:58,995
and the radio's going wild
and people are like,
1132
01:14:59,078 --> 01:15:00,955
"You gotta get out here
and see this girl."
1133
01:15:01,038 --> 01:15:02,999
And that happened all the time.
1134
01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:06,377
[♪ "Here With Me" plays]
1135
01:15:12,883 --> 01:15:15,177
[♪ "Brown Skin" plays]
1136
01:15:21,142 --> 01:15:23,978
[♪ "Hey, Man!" plays]
1137
01:15:34,572 --> 01:15:36,615
[Fraser] We didn't just have B stages.
1138
01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:39,118
We were one of the first people
to set up a village,
1139
01:15:39,201 --> 01:15:40,661
which nobody was doing.
1140
01:15:41,454 --> 01:15:45,041
So, we've got over 40 tents
to get set up here every day.
1141
01:15:45,124 --> 01:15:47,793
If somebody's on the Village Stage
and it's a brand-new artist
1142
01:15:47,877 --> 01:15:50,337
and they perform in front of 2,000 people,
1143
01:15:50,421 --> 01:15:52,840
they can walk over here
and sign their new CD
1144
01:15:52,923 --> 01:15:55,217
and they'll generate sales for them.
1145
01:15:55,301 --> 01:15:58,429
Sarah and all of us wanted
the sponsors to be inclusive
1146
01:15:58,512 --> 01:16:00,097
and to be part of what's going on.
1147
01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:05,186
Of course,
Lilith Fair was very much pro-choice.
1148
01:16:05,269 --> 01:16:06,645
And that's what we did.
1149
01:16:06,729 --> 01:16:08,981
But we took it on the chin
in so many places.
1150
01:16:10,024 --> 01:16:12,777
[Diamond] We were like a gentle threat
for some people.
1151
01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:15,529
- Yay, Planned Parenthood.
- [cheers]
1152
01:16:15,613 --> 01:16:17,281
Like, the presence of Planned Parenthood
1153
01:16:17,364 --> 01:16:19,033
really flipped people out.
1154
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:27,792
We were in Texas, and a venue decided
that they wanted to exclude
1155
01:16:27,875 --> 01:16:31,295
the local Planned Parenthood affiliate
from the event.
1156
01:16:31,378 --> 01:16:33,798
I have a long history working
with Planned Parenthood
1157
01:16:33,881 --> 01:16:38,094
and being a volunteer for them,
so it just incensed me.
1158
01:16:53,109 --> 01:16:55,194
[McLachlan]
Joan talking about the pro-choice thing
1159
01:16:55,277 --> 01:16:56,862
when she was like, "Fuck that."
1160
01:16:56,946 --> 01:17:03,160
I was super proud of her for doing it,
but I was also fighting my good girl,
1161
01:17:03,244 --> 01:17:06,539
"don't rock the boat" thing
that I was brought up with
1162
01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:08,903
and that was hammered into me
since the moment I was born.
1163
01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:11,919
I mean, I think it's asinine
that you have to have this argument
1164
01:17:12,002 --> 01:17:13,963
about handing out condoms.
1165
01:17:14,046 --> 01:17:18,634
It's pretty silly. But again, free speech.
Everybody has their own views.
1166
01:17:18,717 --> 01:17:22,972
Yeah. I really wanna support them
and have it out in the village,
1167
01:17:23,055 --> 01:17:26,809
but… [stammers]
…I just never know what to say.
1168
01:17:26,892 --> 01:17:29,520
But you think about it
and see what you want to do.
1169
01:17:29,603 --> 01:17:30,604
All right.
1170
01:17:31,272 --> 01:17:32,815
[Osborne] The decision was made
1171
01:17:32,898 --> 01:17:35,818
that Planned Parenthood
would be allowed in
1172
01:17:35,901 --> 01:17:39,280
but that artists were not allowed
to talk about them.
1173
01:17:39,363 --> 01:17:41,365
That was the compromise that was made.
1174
01:17:41,448 --> 01:17:43,284
I didn't make that compromise.
1175
01:17:44,076 --> 01:17:45,744
So, I put my whole band
1176
01:17:45,828 --> 01:17:49,206
in the "I am the face of pro-choice Texas"
t-shirts.
1177
01:17:50,416 --> 01:17:53,961
"We want to thank
Planned Parenthood for being here."
1178
01:17:58,591 --> 01:18:01,427
[McLachlan] I had never made a stand
for anything in my life
1179
01:18:01,510 --> 01:18:03,971
in that kind of powerful of a way.
1180
01:18:04,054 --> 01:18:06,974
So, I was enthralled and envious
1181
01:18:07,057 --> 01:18:10,936
of her strength and "fuck you" -ness.
1182
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,607
A national group called Feminists for Life
are angered at Lilith Fair
1183
01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:17,610
because they believe
that the refusal of getting a booth
1184
01:18:17,693 --> 01:18:21,572
at the Lilith Fair village 'cause they
take a pro-life stance is hypocritical
1185
01:18:21,655 --> 01:18:26,243
against the inclusive pro-women attitude
they feel Lilith Fair should invoke.
1186
01:18:26,327 --> 01:18:27,967
So I wanted to get your comments on that.
1187
01:18:28,037 --> 01:18:31,540
Well, this is my festival,
so I can do what I want. [Chuckles]
1188
01:18:31,624 --> 01:18:34,335
It was sort of the first time
I kind of stood up and said that.
1189
01:18:34,418 --> 01:18:36,670
And I was terrified to say that
because I'm like,
1190
01:18:36,754 --> 01:18:39,882
"This goes against everything
that I know how to do.
1191
01:18:39,965 --> 01:18:41,133
Just keep your mouth shut."
1192
01:18:41,217 --> 01:18:43,594
You know, we, as the organizers,
1193
01:18:43,677 --> 01:18:48,140
get to pick and choose the people
who come and table.
1194
01:18:49,516 --> 01:18:51,810
[Davis] Dealing with protestors was
a daily occurrence.
1195
01:18:53,103 --> 01:18:55,564
We would get folks
that would try to block… [stammers]
1196
01:18:55,648 --> 01:18:57,650
…the audience entrance
at the parking lots.
1197
01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:00,152
They would try to bullhorn
and shout people out
1198
01:19:00,236 --> 01:19:01,237
at the ticketed entry.
1199
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,739
[chattering]
1200
01:19:05,866 --> 01:19:07,510
[Fraser] In Atlanta, we had a bomb threat.
1201
01:19:07,534 --> 01:19:11,664
People wanna blow us up
because we're pro-choice.
1202
01:19:11,747 --> 01:19:15,417
I'd never seen
that kind of self-righteous rage
1203
01:19:15,501 --> 01:19:18,379
and anger aimed at
anything that I was part of.
1204
01:19:20,839 --> 01:19:24,426
[Fraser] You don't understand
what it's like to have that responsibility
1205
01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:28,055
of having 20,000 people
and somebody looking to blow you up.
1206
01:19:29,056 --> 01:19:30,808
[Oberthier] We got 18,000 people here.
1207
01:19:30,891 --> 01:19:34,311
If we tell them the truth,
we're gonna have a panic on our hands.
1208
01:19:34,395 --> 01:19:39,358
We did have bomb threats
as well as other call-in threats.
1209
01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:41,110
We would validate each of them.
1210
01:19:41,193 --> 01:19:44,571
We would seek input from public safety,
both police and fire,
1211
01:19:44,655 --> 01:19:49,034
to check for vulnerabilities and breaches
and unattended items, et cetera.
1212
01:19:49,118 --> 01:19:53,372
We don't wanna have any harassment.
Any... We don't want anything.
1213
01:19:53,455 --> 01:19:56,583
We wanna make sure.
We want to be proactive at all times.
1214
01:19:56,667 --> 01:20:00,129
The women who play here, for example,
the Dixie Chicks, I wrote them a letter
1215
01:20:00,212 --> 01:20:04,633
and asked them to reconsider singing
and to stand up for women's rights,
1216
01:20:04,717 --> 01:20:06,010
what they truly are.
1217
01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:08,280
That's why we came up with this shirt.
1218
01:20:08,304 --> 01:20:11,056
"Peace and justice begins in the womb,
Sarah."
1219
01:20:11,765 --> 01:20:15,811
Jerry Falwell is going after
the Lilith Fair Concert Tour.
1220
01:20:15,894 --> 01:20:18,731
Falwell's newspaper,
The National Liberty Journal,
1221
01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:22,693
says the tour, which features
women artists, is named for a demon.
1222
01:20:22,776 --> 01:20:26,155
For me, I just had
to constantly remind myself of…
1223
01:20:27,448 --> 01:20:29,783
I can't be everything for everybody.
1224
01:20:29,867 --> 01:20:32,703
This festival can't
be everything for everybody.
1225
01:20:34,121 --> 01:20:37,082
[McLachlan] I could feel that samestrange feeling seeping in again.
1226
01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:40,919
That feeling of
I've been on the road too long.
1227
01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:44,590
My very essence is starting
to seep away from me.
1228
01:20:44,673 --> 01:20:46,925
Something out in the world is shifting.
1229
01:20:54,475 --> 01:20:56,518
[crew member] What are you doing?
1230
01:20:56,602 --> 01:21:00,898
Uh, just writing in my journal.
Writing the day's exciting exploits.
1231
01:21:01,815 --> 01:21:03,359
"Sheryl went off to do Woodstock,
1232
01:21:03,442 --> 01:21:05,652
and we got to watch the debauchery
on pay-per-view."
1233
01:21:05,736 --> 01:21:09,198
- [♪ Guitar plays heavy metal riff]
- [cheering]
1234
01:21:20,959 --> 01:21:23,629
[Diamond] We had an understanding
with Sheryl Crow
1235
01:21:23,712 --> 01:21:26,131
that Sheryl could go do Woodstock.
1236
01:21:28,717 --> 01:21:32,179
[Crow] If there's anything to be said
for Woodstock carrying the tradition
1237
01:21:32,262 --> 01:21:35,307
of capturing the social consciousness,
1238
01:21:35,391 --> 01:21:40,187
then perhaps this Woodstock
definitely stood to its name.
1239
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,026
You'd have to pay way more
than you paid to get in to see my tits.
1240
01:21:47,945 --> 01:21:49,738
[Jewel] It was premeditated.
1241
01:21:49,822 --> 01:21:53,242
It was self-aware in really negative ways.
1242
01:21:53,325 --> 01:21:58,330
And it was just gasoline
on the worst of the '90s male culture.
1243
01:22:04,545 --> 01:22:05,879
[cheering]
1244
01:22:05,963 --> 01:22:08,465
[Crow] What's going on right now
in the social consciousness is
1245
01:22:08,549 --> 01:22:13,011
a lot of young white people who are angry.
1246
01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:15,806
[yelling]
1247
01:22:16,932 --> 01:22:21,061
[Crow] It was not a matter of them
being led down the path of destruction
1248
01:22:21,145 --> 01:22:23,772
by Limp Bizkit or Kid Rock.
1249
01:22:23,856 --> 01:22:26,650
They were... They were ready to rage.
1250
01:22:28,152 --> 01:22:31,089
[news anchor] New York State Police arereportedly investigating allegations
1251
01:22:31,113 --> 01:22:33,699
that four women were raped
at last weekend's
1252
01:22:33,782 --> 01:22:35,576
Woodstock music festival.
1253
01:22:35,659 --> 01:22:38,203
As the three-day concert ended
Sunday night,
1254
01:22:38,287 --> 01:22:42,374
bonfires blazed out of control
and looters battled police.
1255
01:22:44,001 --> 01:22:45,478
[reporter] I just wanted to ask Sheryl,
1256
01:22:45,502 --> 01:22:48,338
do you have
a new perspective on Lilith Fair now
1257
01:22:48,422 --> 01:22:51,383
coming off of what transpired
at Woodstock?
1258
01:22:51,467 --> 01:22:55,095
The day I got back, I ran to Sarah's arms,
1259
01:22:55,179 --> 01:22:58,140
sobbed into the bosom
of the founder of Lilith.
1260
01:23:00,017 --> 01:23:02,060
It really…
I mean, that was so shocking for me.
1261
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,858
And I'm hoping it's not representing
our future as a nation
1262
01:23:07,941 --> 01:23:09,568
or the youth of America.
1263
01:23:14,198 --> 01:23:16,283
[Diamond] Looking back,
1264
01:23:16,366 --> 01:23:20,621
the enormity of what we had created
was pretty staggering.
1265
01:23:22,247 --> 01:23:25,125
We cannot underplay
the importance of gathering.
1266
01:23:25,209 --> 01:23:27,127
Lilith did that really well.
1267
01:23:28,504 --> 01:23:30,339
[Donlon] The impact was widespread.
1268
01:23:30,422 --> 01:23:35,260
There's some fundamental changes
in the way women see the idea
1269
01:23:35,344 --> 01:23:40,599
of possibility that was born
at the Lilith Fair.
1270
01:23:42,476 --> 01:23:45,062
[Diamond]
These women can sell fucking tickets.
1271
01:23:45,604 --> 01:23:47,272
And we proved that.
1272
01:23:49,483 --> 01:23:51,652
The power of music.
1273
01:23:51,735 --> 01:23:53,487
The power of women.
1274
01:23:54,571 --> 01:23:56,114
And the power of purpose.
1275
01:23:56,198 --> 01:23:58,534
[cheering]
1276
01:24:06,291 --> 01:24:08,418
[Diamond] But nothing lasts forever.
1277
01:24:12,798 --> 01:24:17,010
I won a contest for a radio station
in Columbus to meet Sarah.
1278
01:24:17,094 --> 01:24:19,429
We had to send a videotape in
of who her biggest fan was
1279
01:24:19,513 --> 01:24:20,931
and they picked it over the radio.
1280
01:24:21,014 --> 01:24:24,893
You have allowed radio stations now…
We play female artists back-to-back.
1281
01:24:24,977 --> 01:24:26,937
That's never happened before
until Lilith Fair.
1282
01:24:27,020 --> 01:24:30,857
- That's tangible and you did that.
- That feels really good, let me tell you.
1283
01:24:34,945 --> 01:24:39,199
I love her, and I will always follow her.
And I hope she doesn't stay gone too long.
1284
01:24:39,283 --> 01:24:40,563
I hope she comes back very soon.
1285
01:24:43,996 --> 01:24:46,748
[McLachlan]
This will be the last entry in this book,
1286
01:24:46,832 --> 01:24:49,960
as it is officially
the last day of Lilith Fair.
1287
01:24:50,043 --> 01:24:53,880
Today, the 31st of August
in the year 1999.
1288
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,348
[Harris] I hope that Sarah
is incredibly proud of what she's done
1289
01:25:03,432 --> 01:25:09,563
and realizing the reverberations of that
probably affected not just the audiences
1290
01:25:09,646 --> 01:25:13,066
but the artists
that she brought into the fold.
1291
01:25:15,193 --> 01:25:18,238
[Crow] The other thing
that I took away from Lilith was that
1292
01:25:18,322 --> 01:25:19,573
we are businesswomen.
1293
01:25:19,656 --> 01:25:23,076
We are women who run our tours.
1294
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,204
We are women
that make the creative decisions.
1295
01:25:26,288 --> 01:25:31,627
We are women that set the tone
for how everyone gets treated on the road.
1296
01:25:31,710 --> 01:25:36,381
I thought, "Oh, man. This is so powerful
that I'm gonna take this with me."
1297
01:25:38,133 --> 01:25:43,680
Lilith Fair inspired me
to form our own "Lilith" in our community.
1298
01:25:43,764 --> 01:25:48,268
A tour called Sugar Water.
It was totally necessary for us.
1299
01:25:50,896 --> 01:25:54,149
[Phair]
It was absolutely because of Lilith Fair
1300
01:25:54,232 --> 01:25:58,987
that I had ambition to work
in the music business again.
1301
01:26:00,572 --> 01:26:05,744
[McLachlan] It was a completely
all-encompassing three years.
1302
01:26:08,330 --> 01:26:10,082
Let's leave ending on a high note.
1303
01:26:10,165 --> 01:26:12,125
Like, we were on top of the world
at that point.
1304
01:26:15,671 --> 01:26:19,007
My kingdom is in ruins. [Laughs]
1305
01:26:19,091 --> 01:26:20,592
Pouring rain.
1306
01:26:24,054 --> 01:26:26,556
Oh, my God. We were… [chuckles]
1307
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,642
We were all a mess on the last day.
1308
01:26:30,811 --> 01:26:34,356
I just... I don't quite know
what to do next. [Sniffles]
1309
01:26:35,148 --> 01:26:37,484
Other than put stuff away. [Chuckles]
1310
01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:42,155
I think there was a sense of, "We did it."
1311
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:47,577
We changed the world a little bit,
as crazy as that sounds.
1312
01:26:47,661 --> 01:26:51,498
- There you are. How was your day home?
- Camera. It was good.
1313
01:26:51,581 --> 01:26:52,833
How was yours? How you feeling?
1314
01:26:52,916 --> 01:26:55,127
I had talked to Sarah a few times,
1315
01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:57,963
and I remember her saying,
"We've proved our point."
1316
01:26:58,839 --> 01:27:00,215
This can exist.
1317
01:27:00,298 --> 01:27:04,386
"Now it's time for women to go out
and create their own small Liliths."
1318
01:27:05,971 --> 01:27:08,765
[McLachlan]
What do I have to prove anymore?
1319
01:27:08,849 --> 01:27:10,726
I know I grew up with Lilith.
1320
01:27:11,518 --> 01:27:14,646
I came in incredibly green and naive.
1321
01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:19,484
This huge monumental shift
from essentially being a child
1322
01:27:20,569 --> 01:27:26,241
to becoming a woman
and becoming way clearer
1323
01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:30,454
in who I was and how I was gonna show up
in the world and what I believed in.
1324
01:27:30,537 --> 01:27:32,777
- There you go.
- [McLachlan] Excellent. Do you want me to…
1325
01:27:33,707 --> 01:27:37,878
Sarah wanted to start a family.
Di and myself started our family.
1326
01:27:37,961 --> 01:27:40,088
So everybody wanted to take a breather.
1327
01:27:40,172 --> 01:27:43,842
In a few hours, you're gonna be playing
your final Lilith Fair concert,
1328
01:27:44,676 --> 01:27:49,306
and I'm wondering if that has sunk in
and are you having any second thoughts?
1329
01:27:49,389 --> 01:27:54,060
No, I'm-I'm happy
that it's... that I'm going home tomorrow,
1330
01:27:54,144 --> 01:27:56,396
even though this has been an amazing ride.
1331
01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,273
I've loved every minute of it.
1332
01:27:58,356 --> 01:28:01,568
- [audience cheering]
- [♪ "I Shall Be Released" plays]
1333
01:29:17,143 --> 01:29:18,353
Good night, y'all!
1334
01:29:44,838 --> 01:29:48,383
That's it. I'm done. No more shows.
1335
01:29:49,092 --> 01:29:52,470
A new life has begun. Love, Sarah.
1336
01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:03,690
I get asked
at almost every single interview.
1337
01:30:03,773 --> 01:30:06,109
"Are you gonna bring Lilith back?
We need Lilith."
1338
01:30:06,192 --> 01:30:09,988
And I'm like, "Yeah, we do.
Or we need something like it."
1339
01:30:10,071 --> 01:30:11,823
But it would have
to look really different,
1340
01:30:11,907 --> 01:30:16,786
because we did revisit Lilith in 2010.
1341
01:30:16,870 --> 01:30:19,331
And we didn't succeed.
1342
01:30:20,957 --> 01:30:24,419
A real cultural shift had happened.
1343
01:30:26,588 --> 01:30:29,716
That whole time that came after Lilith,
1344
01:30:29,799 --> 01:30:31,861
the general pop culture was moving away
from singer-songwriters.
1345
01:30:31,885 --> 01:30:36,264
There were programmers saying,
"Never again."
1346
01:30:37,766 --> 01:30:39,046
[Ray] There were these few years
1347
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:40,786
where radio stations were playing
Lilith Fair stuff
1348
01:30:40,810 --> 01:30:41,954
and the next few years were like,
1349
01:30:41,978 --> 01:30:43,789
"We don't play that artist.
They were at Lilith Fair."
1350
01:30:43,813 --> 01:30:46,733
- It's, like, what? Like, really?
- Too many women.
1351
01:30:47,484 --> 01:30:49,170
[McLachlan] The men in power
in the music industry
1352
01:30:49,194 --> 01:30:51,029
wanted to keep things the way they were.
1353
01:30:52,405 --> 01:30:56,618
So, trying to climb out
from underneath that was very challenging.
1354
01:30:57,786 --> 01:31:02,624
But progress, as we know,
always finds a way.
1355
01:31:02,707 --> 01:31:04,918
[cheering]
1356
01:31:10,340 --> 01:31:12,592
I recently went to see Boygenius.
1357
01:31:18,473 --> 01:31:22,769
All of these young people singing
at the top of their lungs,
1358
01:31:23,478 --> 01:31:25,271
that's what Lilith felt like, you know?
1359
01:31:40,620 --> 01:31:45,750
[Powers] What was condemned about Lilith
in the '90s is now embraced widely
1360
01:31:45,834 --> 01:31:49,337
as this beautiful turn of the wheel…
1361
01:31:52,507 --> 01:31:55,343
Where women are
at the center of our culture.
1362
01:31:59,097 --> 01:32:02,308
[Rodrigo] Women singer-songwriters
in the '90s are probably
1363
01:32:02,392 --> 01:32:04,453
the biggest source of inspiration
that I have in my career.
1364
01:32:04,477 --> 01:32:06,855
I'm constantly looking to them
for inspiration.
1365
01:32:06,938 --> 01:32:08,398
They're sort of my Northern Stars.
1366
01:32:08,481 --> 01:32:11,526
[♪ "If It Makes You Happy" plays]
1367
01:32:17,866 --> 01:32:19,427
[Crow] You don't know
who you're inspiring.
1368
01:32:19,451 --> 01:32:22,787
You don't know who's going to be witness
to what you're doing and think,
1369
01:32:22,871 --> 01:32:25,123
"That's what I want to be.
That's what I want to do."
1370
01:32:25,206 --> 01:32:26,624
Just like Bonnie was for me.
1371
01:32:42,807 --> 01:32:44,434
Hey!
1372
01:32:44,517 --> 01:32:46,436
[cheering]
1373
01:32:48,146 --> 01:32:51,274
What a joyful noise that is, y'all.
1374
01:32:53,818 --> 01:32:56,029
I first came here
when I was ten years old.
1375
01:32:56,821 --> 01:33:02,452
But nothing really changed me until 1997,
1376
01:33:02,535 --> 01:33:06,372
when I was sitting way out there
at the crest of that hill
1377
01:33:06,456 --> 01:33:09,709
and I witnessed for the first time
Lilith Fair.
1378
01:33:13,046 --> 01:33:14,547
This is The Gorge.
1379
01:33:15,715 --> 01:33:18,468
This is Sarah McLachlan's house.
1380
01:33:19,761 --> 01:33:22,972
Please welcome Sarah McLachlan.
1381
01:33:33,858 --> 01:33:36,569
[♪ "Extraordinary" plays]
1382
01:33:47,497 --> 01:33:49,517
[Phair] The reason why people
who weren't even there
1383
01:33:49,541 --> 01:33:51,251
feel connected to Lilith Fair is
1384
01:33:51,334 --> 01:33:56,256
because it really does embody the world
we wish existed right now for us.
1385
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:03,596
We get to celebrate the fact that we were
kind of defying the odds every night.
1386
01:34:05,723 --> 01:34:08,059
[♪ Song continues]
1387
01:34:35,295 --> 01:34:37,547
[McLachlan]
Do I think we still need a sisterhood?
1388
01:34:37,630 --> 01:34:39,108
Do I think we need
to fix the broken systems
1389
01:34:39,132 --> 01:34:40,884
that have been created by men for men?
1390
01:34:40,967 --> 01:34:41,968
Hell yes.
1391
01:34:42,844 --> 01:34:44,220
If we want to change things,
1392
01:34:44,304 --> 01:34:48,266
we have to continue building these systems
for us.
1393
01:34:53,813 --> 01:34:56,941
The encore was always the best part.
1394
01:34:58,318 --> 01:35:00,904
That's when we could totally exhale.
1395
01:35:00,987 --> 01:35:03,448
We had done it.
1396
01:35:03,531 --> 01:35:06,618
Every night, we had done it.
1397
01:35:07,702 --> 01:35:10,747
We had changed the frequency
of the whole room.
1398
01:35:12,665 --> 01:35:16,586
It was just a village of very intelligent,
1399
01:35:17,462 --> 01:35:19,505
very powerful,
1400
01:35:19,589 --> 01:35:21,883
very creative,
1401
01:35:21,966 --> 01:35:23,843
very mission-orientated,
1402
01:35:23,927 --> 01:35:26,846
very strong women
1403
01:35:26,930 --> 01:35:30,350
on stage together putting a period
1404
01:35:31,726 --> 01:35:33,728
at the end of a sentence.
1405
01:35:39,067 --> 01:35:40,276
[song ends]
1406
01:35:53,581 --> 01:35:56,584
[♪ "One In a Long Line" plays]
121531
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.