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Check. 2 00:00:26,652 --> 00:00:30,739 Does anyone else get a little bit sad that they never got to go to Lilith Fair? 3 00:00:36,745 --> 00:00:41,708 Featuring only women artists, so it was really, really cool. 4 00:00:46,797 --> 00:00:53,011 It was an all-female music festival from 1997 to 1999, and I am shook to my core. 5 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:03,272 [Olivia Rodrigo] I remember someone bringing it up a few years ago. 6 00:01:04,356 --> 00:01:06,358 And doing research on it and finding out 7 00:01:07,442 --> 00:01:09,987 that all of my favorite artists had played at this event. 8 00:01:10,654 --> 00:01:15,867 Somebody like Sarah McLachlan and Sheryl Crow, Pat Benatar, Fiona Apple, 9 00:01:15,951 --> 00:01:19,037 Jewel, and all these people that I have spent my whole life just adoring. 10 00:01:19,121 --> 00:01:20,914 [crowd cheers] 11 00:01:20,998 --> 00:01:23,667 I was in disbelief that I'd never heard of it before. 12 00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:27,212 And also just thinking that the name sounded really cool. 13 00:01:27,296 --> 00:01:29,548 "Lilith Fair." Wow, that's really interesting. 14 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:33,510 It's quite curious because almost everybody I know 15 00:01:33,594 --> 00:01:34,928 didn't know who Lilith was, 16 00:01:35,012 --> 00:01:38,307 and she's such a strong and wonderful feminist figure. 17 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,727 In religious mythology, 18 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:44,813 - Lilith was Adam's first wife, before Eve. - [crowd cheering] 19 00:01:44,896 --> 00:01:46,982 She was created out of the same stuff he was, 20 00:01:47,065 --> 00:01:52,154 yet he refused to treat her as an equal, so she said, "I'm out of here." 21 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:56,366 Lilith left the Garden of Eden and built her own garden, 22 00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:59,745 dancing and singing among women who, like her, 23 00:01:59,828 --> 00:02:02,289 refused to surrender their strength. 24 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:14,593 [interviewer] Singer Sarah McLachlan has launched an all-female tour. 25 00:02:15,552 --> 00:02:17,095 [attendee] Whoo! Whoo! 26 00:02:18,096 --> 00:02:22,684 [Sarah] One of the beautiful things about Lilith was we could be ourselves. 27 00:02:24,478 --> 00:02:25,854 There was such power in that. 28 00:02:25,937 --> 00:02:29,858 [cheering] 29 00:02:29,941 --> 00:02:31,109 Wow. 30 00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:33,445 Welcome to Lilith Fair! 31 00:02:35,781 --> 00:02:38,283 I just love hearing music that comes from the heart. 32 00:02:40,285 --> 00:02:43,246 It shows that the women have power in the music industry. 33 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:47,376 [Cole] I feel like this is the first time we've had a forum 34 00:02:47,459 --> 00:02:50,587 of contemporary women artists, and people just, they were ready. 35 00:02:51,380 --> 00:02:56,176 This is a celebration of women in music and the fact that we have a voice. 36 00:02:58,136 --> 00:02:59,864 [interviewer] So, that question of the possibility that 37 00:02:59,888 --> 00:03:03,016 it further marginalizes "women's music," quote, unquote. 38 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:05,977 [Cole] I think the point is good music that happens to be women. 39 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:08,855 Of course, there are undertones of feminism. 40 00:03:08,939 --> 00:03:11,000 - [chuckles] - [interviewer] Right. You got that right. 41 00:03:11,024 --> 00:03:13,624 And that can't hurt, 'cause the world needs some of that, I think. 42 00:03:15,570 --> 00:03:17,948 [McLachlan] It was a massive success. 43 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:22,661 And it changed people's lives. It changed my life. 44 00:03:24,913 --> 00:03:27,207 And yet, people don't like change. 45 00:03:28,625 --> 00:03:35,215 There's a reason that Lilith still remains mostly unheard of or misunderstood. 46 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:40,679 Because if you stand up for something, 47 00:03:41,471 --> 00:03:44,933 there is gonna be an equal and opposite reaction. 48 00:03:45,016 --> 00:03:48,520 - [crowd cheering] - [applause] 49 00:04:05,370 --> 00:04:08,915 [Sheryl Crow] One of the things I thought was so unique about the Lilith Tour was 50 00:04:08,999 --> 00:04:11,960 everybody was always around everybody. 51 00:04:12,043 --> 00:04:13,837 - Hello. - Two, three. 52 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,089 [♪ "Put a Little Love in Your Heart" plays] 53 00:04:20,177 --> 00:04:21,928 Are we gonna go to the… 54 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:26,850 I mean, the Lilith Tour was full of rock stars, 55 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:30,520 but that feminine energy, I think, usurped the ego. 56 00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:34,024 There was no separation between artists. 57 00:04:34,566 --> 00:04:37,360 Nobody was more important than anybody else. 58 00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:43,909 With women, there's more of a communal thing, and it was so important in a moment 59 00:04:43,992 --> 00:04:50,123 where there wasn't a lot of support for women, particularly in the music industry. 60 00:04:50,707 --> 00:04:51,875 [door bell chimes] 61 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:54,503 - Hi, Sarah. How ya doing? - Pretty good. How are you? 62 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:59,466 [McLachlan] I remember, every time I'd go to a radio station, they'd play a song. 63 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,069 They're like, "Yeah, yeah, it's a really great song, 64 00:05:02,093 --> 00:05:04,137 but, you know, we added Tracy Chapman this week" 65 00:05:04,221 --> 00:05:07,330 or "We added Jewel this week," and I was like, "And?" 66 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:09,309 "What's that got to do with me?" 67 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:11,037 Those are all very different artists than me, 68 00:05:11,061 --> 00:05:14,439 but we all kind of got lumped into the same category. 69 00:05:14,523 --> 00:05:16,149 There's room for one of us? 70 00:05:18,458 --> 00:05:22,072 They said women were not supposed to be played back-to-back on the radio. 71 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:24,035 "It's too much. People will change the channel." 72 00:05:24,991 --> 00:05:26,993 And it just never made any sense to me. 73 00:05:28,745 --> 00:05:32,332 In the early '90s, all the radio programmers were men. 74 00:05:32,758 --> 00:05:34,134 All the promoters were men. 75 00:05:34,231 --> 00:05:37,806 It was inane that we weren't able to do what it was we knew we could do. 76 00:05:37,906 --> 00:05:40,799 [♪ "All I Wanna Do" plays] 77 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:44,386 [♪ "Sleep to Dream" plays] 78 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:47,806 [♪ "You Oughta Know" plays] 79 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:53,728 There was a great rush of female singer-songwriters. 80 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:57,816 You had rock and roll women, you had hip-hop women, 81 00:05:57,899 --> 00:06:01,486 you had folky women, you had folk-rock women making all kinds of music. 82 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,359 They keep talking about female singers, and suddenly, 83 00:06:04,406 --> 00:06:06,616 you're all lumped together when you don't sound alike. 84 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:10,954 Exactly. Well, because it's supposedly a "fad" or whatever. 85 00:06:11,037 --> 00:06:17,961 There's still this media perception of it being cute or novel or a fluke. 86 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:19,963 Women aren't flukes. [Chuckles] 87 00:06:20,046 --> 00:06:22,507 [cheering] 88 00:06:22,591 --> 00:06:25,594 [Phair] When you're in a male-dominated industry, 89 00:06:25,677 --> 00:06:28,179 you don't run into other female artists, 90 00:06:28,263 --> 00:06:30,515 and worse, you're being pitted against each other. 91 00:06:30,599 --> 00:06:33,560 So we all knew, although we'd never talk about it. 92 00:06:33,643 --> 00:06:35,535 I don't wanna talk about it. 93 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:36,663 Shut up. 94 00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:39,774 This area right here, you can see how Jewel dominated her competition. 95 00:06:41,276 --> 00:06:43,612 [Phair] And I think we felt, in one sense, 96 00:06:43,695 --> 00:06:46,072 the competitors in us would be like, "All right." 97 00:06:46,156 --> 00:06:50,410 And then, in another sense, this great sadness. Like, "Why, why?" 98 00:06:52,621 --> 00:06:58,168 That was a very '90s ethos, because it wasn't an easy time either. 99 00:06:58,668 --> 00:07:00,503 Are you a scorned woman? 100 00:07:02,047 --> 00:07:04,758 [Jewel] The larger culture was straight-up toxic. 101 00:07:04,841 --> 00:07:08,511 Then you're the president, and you're humping the fat chick. 102 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:09,971 [audience laughs] 103 00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:12,682 Be a little more sexy. With a body like that. 104 00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:14,184 - Yeah, yeah! Whoa. - Whoa. 105 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:16,645 - [squeals] - [audience laughs] 106 00:07:16,728 --> 00:07:17,729 What are you doing? 107 00:07:18,313 --> 00:07:19,940 [audience cheers] 108 00:07:20,023 --> 00:07:23,401 The predominant movement at the time was shock jocks. 109 00:07:23,485 --> 00:07:25,004 - [radio host] Goes off… - [radio host 2] Shock radio. 110 00:07:25,028 --> 00:07:26,559 Getting the boner. 111 00:07:26,634 --> 00:07:28,573 I like the big, fat bitch. 112 00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:30,742 [Jewel] I'm 19, and they would go, 113 00:07:30,825 --> 00:07:33,536 "Jewel, how do you give a blow job with those teeth?" 114 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:36,289 Or, "You may have heard me describe my next guest 115 00:07:36,373 --> 00:07:38,291 as a large-breasted woman from Alaska. 116 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:39,542 Jewel, how are you?" 117 00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:42,462 And I was like, "You must be that small penis man 118 00:07:42,545 --> 00:07:45,048 I've heard so much about from South Carolina." 119 00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:47,634 And I was escorted out. 120 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:51,388 Howard Stern Interview Show with Suzanne Vega. 121 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:52,472 Come here. Come here. 122 00:07:52,555 --> 00:07:54,849 Suzanne, what's the big deal? Suzanne is a… 123 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:58,019 Guys are not responding to you in the proper way. 124 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:00,939 They're not seeing you as a little bit of a, uh, sex image. 125 00:08:01,022 --> 00:08:04,609 Yeah, well, we've discussed this already, about the makeover thing. 126 00:08:04,693 --> 00:08:08,113 I like to cover myself. That's why I dress the way I dress. 127 00:08:08,196 --> 00:08:10,490 I wanted people to see my face and my hands, 128 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:12,283 and to think about my lyrics. 129 00:08:12,367 --> 00:08:15,620 But the pressure was on to be sort of larger than life, 130 00:08:15,704 --> 00:08:17,706 - to be more like Madonna. - [camera shutter clicks] 131 00:08:17,789 --> 00:08:20,959 In the '80s, she used sex to sell records. 132 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:23,586 That was her empowerment message, 133 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:24,796 which was great for her, 134 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:27,882 but it was not something that I was going to do. 135 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:34,347 [Phair] I was sent to a magazine shoot, and they asked me to wear 136 00:08:34,431 --> 00:08:37,851 trousers and suspenders that just went over my nipples, 137 00:08:37,934 --> 00:08:39,769 so I had no shirt on. 138 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:41,980 Everyone says, "You have this big record." 139 00:08:42,063 --> 00:08:44,024 "You're in the top whatever list." 140 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:46,776 And I'm like, "I'm devalued." 141 00:08:47,402 --> 00:08:49,571 Everything that I was good at, that I was skilled at, 142 00:08:49,654 --> 00:08:51,281 that I had worked my entire life for, 143 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:53,825 boiled down to, "Do her tits look good?" 144 00:08:53,908 --> 00:08:56,953 She looks great in the interview. She needs a more flattering picture, 145 00:08:57,037 --> 00:08:58,038 don't you think? 146 00:08:58,121 --> 00:09:00,123 Well, she's got her mouth wide open on this shot. 147 00:09:00,206 --> 00:09:01,916 But she's a great singer. Mark my words. 148 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,920 You're gonna hear from Liz Phair for a long time. 149 00:09:04,002 --> 00:09:07,464 So, yeah. I was ready to quit that first year. 150 00:09:09,507 --> 00:09:11,426 [Newman] Her debut album in 1988 151 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:14,054 established her as a new force in Canadian music. 152 00:09:14,137 --> 00:09:17,182 Sarah McLachlan joins us now from her hometown of Halifax. 153 00:09:17,265 --> 00:09:19,684 - Hi, Sarah. How are you? - Hi. 154 00:09:19,768 --> 00:09:22,228 What was it like growing up in Halifax for you, then? 155 00:09:23,188 --> 00:09:24,439 Uh, how long do we have? 156 00:09:24,522 --> 00:09:25,523 [both chuckle] 157 00:09:27,776 --> 00:09:31,071 [McLachlan] For me, as a good Canadian girl, 158 00:09:31,154 --> 00:09:34,991 I had to sort of find my way through to who I was. 159 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:40,121 You see, I was raised not to have an opinion, 160 00:09:40,205 --> 00:09:42,332 not to open my mouth and say anything. 161 00:09:45,126 --> 00:09:47,087 My mom was incredibly strict. 162 00:09:49,047 --> 00:09:52,467 I wasn't really allowed to go out and do anything. 163 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:54,094 I didn't really have any friends. 164 00:09:55,178 --> 00:09:57,806 Like, I could not be myself at home. 165 00:10:02,727 --> 00:10:06,981 I was grounded most of my adolescence for the tiniest of infractions. 166 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:11,319 But, really, it was just 'cause my mom wanted to keep me home to "protect" me. 167 00:10:12,695 --> 00:10:16,074 I remember begging to be in a band. 168 00:10:16,157 --> 00:10:19,410 And she was like, "Don't go thinking you're anything special. 169 00:10:19,494 --> 00:10:22,413 Don't go thinking that you can really advance 170 00:10:22,497 --> 00:10:25,208 or get anywhere because that doesn't happen. 171 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:26,918 You're gonna fail." 172 00:10:28,419 --> 00:10:31,047 Well, that sucks. I don't believe that. 173 00:10:31,714 --> 00:10:35,051 So, you know, my mom was really the first one 174 00:10:35,135 --> 00:10:39,597 to help push me towards having my own belief system in myself 175 00:10:39,681 --> 00:10:42,308 by doing the opposite, by telling me I wasn't good enough. 176 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:45,186 I was like, "Oh, I'm gonna be good enough." 177 00:10:47,605 --> 00:10:51,609 I need people around me who support me and have my back 178 00:10:51,693 --> 00:10:54,445 and actually like me for who I am. 179 00:10:55,113 --> 00:10:57,740 For me, that was Terry McBride, my manager, 180 00:10:57,824 --> 00:11:00,118 Dan Fraser, my road manager, 181 00:11:00,201 --> 00:11:01,536 and Marty Diamond, my agent. 182 00:11:02,704 --> 00:11:04,289 There was a mutual respect there, 183 00:11:05,081 --> 00:11:07,917 and that was really, really important to me. 184 00:11:09,377 --> 00:11:12,338 Everyone around Sarah and her crew and her band, 185 00:11:12,422 --> 00:11:16,217 they were very open, and you could see the magic. 186 00:11:16,301 --> 00:11:19,304 [♪ "Possession" plays] 187 00:11:45,413 --> 00:11:48,124 [McLachlan] There was so much happening, so fast. 188 00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:52,212 [reporter] Sarah McLachlan is one of the busiest women in the music industry. 189 00:11:52,295 --> 00:11:54,589 [reporter 2] A force that just keeps on growing. 190 00:11:54,672 --> 00:11:57,508 [reporter 3] She's on the verge of pop superstardom. 191 00:11:58,593 --> 00:12:00,303 [mouthing words] 192 00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:04,682 [Fraser] Working with Sarah, 193 00:12:05,308 --> 00:12:08,394 Terry was the brains of the operation. 194 00:12:08,478 --> 00:12:12,273 And I was… [chuckles] I was on the touring side. 195 00:12:17,195 --> 00:12:18,863 We were all a big family, 196 00:12:18,947 --> 00:12:22,700 and we all kind of found solace in ourselves 197 00:12:22,784 --> 00:12:26,496 and in what we were trying to achieve every day. 198 00:12:30,875 --> 00:12:33,253 [McLachlan] My band and crew, we'd go out on the road. 199 00:12:33,336 --> 00:12:34,587 Mostly men, yes. 200 00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:36,464 - I got it. - Oh, yeah. 201 00:12:36,547 --> 00:12:38,400 [McLachlan] But I wasn't even thinking about it. 202 00:12:38,424 --> 00:12:39,968 [laughs] 203 00:12:40,051 --> 00:12:41,678 They were all great people. 204 00:12:42,220 --> 00:12:43,221 And off we went. 205 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:46,391 I thought that was normal. 206 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:49,936 But I didn't know the position I was in. 207 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:55,400 Coming from Canada, I was sheltered to a certain degree, 208 00:12:56,401 --> 00:12:58,528 until I got signed to an American deal. 209 00:13:00,405 --> 00:13:04,117 I remember going down to LA for a week. 210 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,122 The A&R guy was like, "Well, you know, if you lost five pounds, 211 00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:10,516 you know, we could do this with you." 212 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:12,893 They were looking at my hair, going, "If we could do this and fix it." 213 00:13:12,917 --> 00:13:16,004 And I came down there feeling, A, just fine about my body, 214 00:13:16,087 --> 00:13:17,547 never gave it a second thought. 215 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:20,508 Actually, maybe we should move back. Watch it right there. 216 00:13:20,591 --> 00:13:22,903 Just because they come and go and then they won't smash into me. 217 00:13:22,927 --> 00:13:24,429 - Okay. - We don't want that. 218 00:13:24,512 --> 00:13:27,390 They won't be inclined to pinch my ass or something to make me scream. 219 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:32,020 And after a week there, I was starting to not feel good about myself. 220 00:13:33,438 --> 00:13:34,647 [McLachlan] 221 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,779 And I was so young and green and naive. 222 00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:45,301 If this is what a major label looks like, and that's what they expect from me, 223 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:46,784 I'm like, "This is... 224 00:13:46,868 --> 00:13:48,202 No, I can't do it." 225 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:54,208 Then I realized that I was missing that sense of connection and community. 226 00:13:54,292 --> 00:13:56,919 Two, three, check. Hello, hello. 227 00:13:57,003 --> 00:13:58,713 I feel lonely. 228 00:13:58,796 --> 00:14:01,841 This is a weird job, and it would be so nice to connect 229 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:05,428 with other women who are doing a similar thing to me. 230 00:14:06,304 --> 00:14:09,140 But that's when promoters started saying, "You can't do this." 231 00:14:09,223 --> 00:14:10,516 None of your business. 232 00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:14,562 Saying, "You can't put two women on the same bill. People won't come." 233 00:14:14,645 --> 00:14:17,023 Which was complete bullshit. 234 00:14:18,149 --> 00:14:19,984 At the time, believe it or not, 235 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:23,321 promoters wouldn't put two women back-to-back on the same bill 236 00:14:23,404 --> 00:14:27,283 …because the tickets wouldn't sell, which was absolutely ridiculous. 237 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:30,095 [Schellenbach] If you did, it was called a "pussy package." 238 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:31,788 "Come on down. It's girl's night." 239 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:35,166 And like, "Th-This many bands and free drinks for the ladies." 240 00:14:35,249 --> 00:14:38,252 And it was, like, a weird stigma around that. 241 00:14:39,003 --> 00:14:43,007 And, certainly, that put a huge fire under my butt to prove them wrong. 242 00:14:43,091 --> 00:14:44,550 [♪ "I Don't Want to Wait" plays] 243 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:47,804 And the first person I reached out to was Paula Cole. 244 00:15:08,533 --> 00:15:10,785 [Cole] Sarah showed up at a gig of mine, 245 00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:14,831 and she asked me to come on tour with her. That was the beginning. 246 00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:16,499 - Okay. - Okay what, Dan? 247 00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:17,625 We're ready to rock. 248 00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:26,884 [Cole] I knew how rare it was for a woman to open for another woman on the road. 249 00:15:26,968 --> 00:15:31,681 So would I open the show, and I would speak to the audience, 250 00:15:31,764 --> 00:15:33,307 and I would say, "Listen." 251 00:15:33,391 --> 00:15:35,768 I just wanna say that I'm very grateful. 252 00:15:35,852 --> 00:15:39,730 I'm always grateful when I see women supporting other women in this business. 253 00:15:39,814 --> 00:15:42,316 - [cheering] - It's such a rare and wonderful thing. 254 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:44,986 And you could feel the ripple of the zeitgeist, 255 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:46,821 this realization throughout the audience. 256 00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:49,949 They knew it was true. They knew it was fucked-up. [Chuckles] 257 00:15:50,032 --> 00:15:52,034 And it kept doing well and well and well. 258 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,036 [♪ "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" plays] 259 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,288 [audience cheers] 260 00:15:57,165 --> 00:15:59,041 And selling out and selling out. 261 00:16:02,336 --> 00:16:04,964 And I think we all realized that there was something there. 262 00:16:13,514 --> 00:16:15,475 So, that then expanded. 263 00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:23,316 [McLachlan] What I remember feeling is, "Oh, my God. This is so much fun." 264 00:16:24,525 --> 00:16:27,403 She re-engaged and was so excited. 265 00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:32,408 And it was that, that everyone went, "We should do some more of these." 266 00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:36,120 Why don't we get a couple of other artists and do a couple of other shows? 267 00:16:36,704 --> 00:16:38,289 She went, "They have to be all female." 268 00:16:38,372 --> 00:16:40,917 I went, "Huh. Okay." 269 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,543 [cheering] 270 00:16:42,627 --> 00:16:45,129 [McLachlan] Look at all these summer festivals. 271 00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:46,733 They're all completely male-dominated. 272 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:50,092 Yet there's all these amazing women out there making music. 273 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,571 Why don't we ask some of them if they wanna come do something? 274 00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:55,515 And it was as simple as that. 275 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:58,809 It wasn't easy. [Chuckles] 276 00:16:58,893 --> 00:17:00,770 It was long, long days. 277 00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:05,608 And Marty, Terry and myself negotiated every deal. 278 00:17:06,317 --> 00:17:09,362 [Diamond] I lived 3,000 miles away from the core group, 279 00:17:09,445 --> 00:17:11,239 so I was on the phone. 280 00:17:11,948 --> 00:17:14,784 - Marty. - What days are they? 281 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,787 There always was a sense of resistance from promoters. 282 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:21,582 I was doing all the talent outreach. And getting a lot of noes. 283 00:17:21,675 --> 00:17:26,329 You know, for me, it was, like, a no was a reason to come back harder. 284 00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:28,214 [Vega] At first, I didn't get it. 285 00:17:28,297 --> 00:17:31,509 I thought, "Why is she making this all-female show?" 286 00:17:31,592 --> 00:17:32,593 [camera shutter clicking] 287 00:17:32,677 --> 00:17:36,389 And then she explained to me that this was deliberate. 288 00:17:36,472 --> 00:17:38,891 She was doing it deliberately to show the promoters 289 00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:43,062 that you could have an all-female lineup and that it would do well. 290 00:17:43,145 --> 00:17:46,399 And I thought, "Oh, yeah. Okay, great. Sign me up. I'll do it." 291 00:17:46,482 --> 00:17:49,318 - [♪ "Tom's Diner" plays] - [rhythmic clapping] 292 00:18:07,545 --> 00:18:09,630 [cheering] 293 00:18:09,714 --> 00:18:12,800 [♪ "Stay (I Missed You)" plays] 294 00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:36,032 At first, my immediate reaction was, "I don't know if that's a good idea. 295 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,675 I don't really wanna be grouped with a bunch of women musicians." 296 00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:41,287 I'm a musician. 297 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:45,166 I went through my whole life at this all-girls school 298 00:18:45,249 --> 00:18:48,294 where I really didn't wanna be seen as just a girl who plays guitar. 299 00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:53,132 But then I heard about who was on the bill. 300 00:18:53,215 --> 00:18:58,763 It was Sarah, Paula Cole, Aimee Mann, Patti Smith. 301 00:18:58,846 --> 00:19:01,015 So I said, "Yes, for sure, I would love to do it." 302 00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:04,769 - [audience cheering] - [♪ "Stay (I Missed You)" continues] 303 00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:28,125 There was something different about being able to hang out with 304 00:19:28,209 --> 00:19:31,003 and talk to other women who were leading their bands. 305 00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:36,926 Being backstage with people that I was such a big admirer of… 306 00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:41,847 You know, being a musician, you're very alone. 307 00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:44,934 And to be able to have conversations with other people 308 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:46,769 about their experiences, 309 00:19:46,852 --> 00:19:49,188 "You feel that way? Oh, my gosh. I feel that way too. 310 00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:50,940 I thought I was the only one." 311 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:53,317 [audience cheers] 312 00:19:53,401 --> 00:19:57,029 You know, that was an unusual place where you could feel at ease. 313 00:20:12,086 --> 00:20:13,254 Thank you. 314 00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:17,341 [McLachlan] We did four shows in 1996 as sort of test runs. 315 00:20:17,425 --> 00:20:20,065 And I just wanted to be able to replicate that over and over again. 316 00:20:21,512 --> 00:20:23,139 - It's over. - [crew member] Yes. 317 00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:27,810 It was a success and I'm very happy. 318 00:20:29,395 --> 00:20:30,563 At the end of the day, 319 00:20:30,646 --> 00:20:34,275 we just kind of sat on the floor in the room, 320 00:20:34,358 --> 00:20:37,820 and we said, "Let's do this." Like, "Let's build a festival." 321 00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:41,866 Not four shows. Let's do 35 shows. 322 00:20:41,949 --> 00:20:44,869 I think the label was very, like, "Oh, you can't do this." 323 00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:46,746 Like, "That's crazy," right? 324 00:20:46,829 --> 00:20:50,791 And, well, we basically said, you know, "Stuff it. We're gonna do it." 325 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:54,170 That turned into '97. 326 00:20:57,631 --> 00:21:02,136 Originally, I don't think any of us were thinking as wide as it went. 327 00:21:04,972 --> 00:21:06,849 [McBride] Before we launched, I said, 328 00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:08,893 "You've got to come up with a name for this. 329 00:21:08,976 --> 00:21:10,811 Because I need to brand it." 330 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:14,315 [McLachlan] 331 00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:18,712 [Childerhose] She wanted something that well represented 332 00:21:18,736 --> 00:21:20,446 women and female power. 333 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:21,530 She'd mentioned Eve. 334 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:26,076 And I said to her, "Have you heard about Adam's first wife? 335 00:21:27,036 --> 00:21:28,871 You should call it Lilith." 336 00:21:30,414 --> 00:21:31,499 [painter 2] 337 00:21:31,582 --> 00:21:32,708 No. 338 00:21:35,878 --> 00:21:38,631 I just thought it was cheeky and reactionary. 339 00:21:38,714 --> 00:21:41,801 But it was a beautiful name, and I put "Fair" on the end of it 340 00:21:41,884 --> 00:21:44,094 because I like the play on words, fair being beautiful, 341 00:21:44,178 --> 00:21:47,640 fair being equal, and fair being a celebration or a festival. 342 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:51,811 [McBride] There was a lot of challenges 343 00:21:51,894 --> 00:21:55,981 because the business just wasn't set up for it. 344 00:21:56,065 --> 00:21:57,608 First with the promoters, 345 00:21:57,691 --> 00:22:00,611 which Marty mostly had to deal with. 346 00:22:00,694 --> 00:22:04,740 There was a little bit of a convince that this wasn't just a regional success. 347 00:22:06,534 --> 00:22:07,993 And so, I just sort of thought, 348 00:22:08,077 --> 00:22:10,871 "Okay, who's out there that I'm listening to that I really love?" 349 00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:12,015 [♪ "Everyday Is A Winding Road" plays] 350 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,333 And we had a wish list. 351 00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:17,545 Sheryl was one of those artists that worked her ass off 352 00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:19,129 to get to where she was. 353 00:22:19,213 --> 00:22:22,258 Her record was huge. 354 00:22:22,341 --> 00:22:25,594 Sarah McLachlan called me, and I was absolutely like, 355 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:28,556 "Oh, my goodness. I mean, mana from heaven." 356 00:22:28,639 --> 00:22:30,474 [Diamond] Sheryl Crow will join the tour. 357 00:22:30,558 --> 00:22:33,561 [♪ "Everyday Is A Winding Road" continues] 358 00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:53,455 [McLachlan] She got it. She knew what we were trying to do. 359 00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:56,000 She was part of it, she was deeply invested in it. 360 00:22:57,126 --> 00:22:58,961 It was kind of like sisters in arms, 361 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,089 and I was so grateful to have her there. 362 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:06,260 We always viewed it that we needed a co-headliner. 363 00:23:06,343 --> 00:23:10,097 Like, it was always like, "Okay, one plus one equals three." 364 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:11,974 Who's the one plus one equals three? 365 00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:14,268 [♪ "Fast Car" plays] 366 00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:16,770 [Diamond] Tracy was a musical anomaly… 367 00:23:18,272 --> 00:23:19,690 In the best way possible. 368 00:23:21,525 --> 00:23:23,611 She was an artist that was a ground breaker. 369 00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:27,323 She was hard to get, and an important get. 370 00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:31,410 And you have to understand that I came from in that place, 371 00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:35,247 like, maybe selling out to 2,500 or 3,000 people. 372 00:23:35,789 --> 00:23:37,708 Sheryl, same thing. 373 00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:39,793 Tracy Chapman, she was bigger. 374 00:23:40,628 --> 00:23:45,382 So independently, we had fan bases. 375 00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:48,469 Together, I thought, "How could this fail?" 376 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:55,935 We took very low guarantees. 377 00:23:56,018 --> 00:23:59,063 In some cases, we took no guarantees. So we took all the risk. 378 00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:02,274 And we didn't have a lot of sponsorships 379 00:24:02,358 --> 00:24:05,402 'cause people just didn't see it doing anything. 380 00:24:06,362 --> 00:24:07,696 [truck beeping] 381 00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:12,242 I remember specifically one conversation with the water company, 382 00:24:12,326 --> 00:24:14,304 and they were like, "No, we're kind of really focusing 383 00:24:14,328 --> 00:24:15,913 on a male audience." 384 00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:18,874 And I was like, "It's water." 385 00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:22,002 We're here with Sarah McLachlan, who is defacing the water bottles. 386 00:24:22,086 --> 00:24:24,004 - Hey, they're not sponsoring us. - There you go. 387 00:24:24,088 --> 00:24:25,899 So much of the organization's been taken care of 388 00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:29,593 and now most of the huge things sort of fall on the shoulders 389 00:24:29,677 --> 00:24:31,804 of my tour manager, Dan Fraser. 390 00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:36,225 'Cause he's running this thing, which is 67 people and seven semis 391 00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:40,771 and six tour buses and, you know, it's all on his shoulders now. 392 00:24:40,854 --> 00:24:42,982 You know, I just get up there and sing every night. 393 00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:45,609 Okay, we'll see you down at The Gorge. Here we go. 394 00:24:51,657 --> 00:24:54,034 [Diamond] I don't know if you've ever been to The Gorge, 395 00:24:54,118 --> 00:24:56,412 but it's really fucking steep, you know. 396 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,789 And The Gorge is not in Seattle. 397 00:24:59,873 --> 00:25:02,710 [McLachlan] I remember the first show at The Gorge. 398 00:25:03,419 --> 00:25:06,379 Promoters were saying, "People won't come. People won't buy those tickets." 399 00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:13,762 And when 15,000 people showed up… 400 00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:15,597 [cheering] 401 00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:21,270 …we went, "Bingo, now we have something." 402 00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:24,481 [♪ "Down On Me" plays] 403 00:25:28,277 --> 00:25:30,237 [radio host] The Lilith Fair bill is incredible. 404 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,157 Joining McLachlan on the bill will be Jewel, Paula Cole, Tracy Chapman, 405 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,034 Suzanne Vega, jazz singer Cassandra Wilson, 406 00:25:35,117 --> 00:25:37,661 and Fiona Apple, Joan Osborne and The Cardigans. 407 00:25:38,134 --> 00:25:40,664 [Diamond] Maybe the better question is, who isn't? 408 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:43,709 [Carlile] I would go to The Gorge in Washington State, 409 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:44,918 which is where I'm from, 410 00:25:45,002 --> 00:25:48,047 and then try to get tickets to shows I didn't have tickets to. 411 00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:51,341 And I knew that there was this concert that was gonna be all-women 412 00:25:51,425 --> 00:25:53,719 and that Sarah McLachlan was involved in it. 413 00:25:53,802 --> 00:25:57,347 So I kind of knew that I was going up there for, like, a special one. 414 00:25:57,431 --> 00:26:01,226 But nothing really could have prepared me for that experience, 415 00:26:01,310 --> 00:26:04,563 a sort of coming-of-age and total freedom. 416 00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:08,442 I was the only person out of the closet in my high school. 417 00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:11,987 I was just this punky little baby dyke running around. 418 00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:15,657 And it had the feeling of the beginning of something 419 00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:19,536 because there was so much happening for LGBTQ people. 420 00:26:20,204 --> 00:26:23,582 1997 was the same year that Ellen DeGeneres came out, 421 00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:26,960 courting so much controversy but also so much hopefulness. 422 00:26:27,044 --> 00:26:29,296 And from the audience perspective, 423 00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:34,051 Lilith Fair felt like a real-life backyard manifestation of that, to me. 424 00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:39,098 I just wanna say that I'm really glad Lilith has started. 425 00:26:39,181 --> 00:26:42,142 I'm here because Sarah is very talented. 426 00:26:42,226 --> 00:26:44,037 She's here for the chicks, we're here for the music. 427 00:26:44,061 --> 00:26:45,580 I'm here for the chick… It's a chick fest. 428 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:49,441 [Mulligan] This is Much West at Lilith Fair '97, the kickoff date at The Gorge. 429 00:26:49,525 --> 00:26:52,444 I was wondering what the common voice might achieve here. 430 00:26:52,528 --> 00:26:55,322 I think Lilith Fair is a symbol of hope. 431 00:26:55,405 --> 00:26:59,159 Not only is there a tremendous amount of support, 432 00:26:59,243 --> 00:27:03,163 but I think this is just a metaphor for what could be in other areas of life. 433 00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:07,918 [Cole] It was like a perfect day, clear blue sky, 434 00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:11,171 the majesty of The Gorge sold out, 435 00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:12,548 and us coming together. 436 00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:17,094 And we realized, like, this is something that's much bigger than us 437 00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:19,138 or what we even thought it could be. 438 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:22,224 There was magic in the air. 439 00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:25,686 And that was the first day of Lilith Fair. 440 00:27:26,562 --> 00:27:28,456 [concertgoer] We saw some new people who we hadn't seen before. 441 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,458 - [reporter] Like who? - Like I've never seen Paula Cole. 442 00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:32,127 - [reporter] And? - And she was great. She was excellent. 443 00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:35,154 [♪ "I Don't Want to Wait" plays] 444 00:27:57,801 --> 00:28:02,890 Could you in your wildest of dreams have envisioned that hill full of people? 445 00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:08,604 [McLachlan] Um… [chuckles] There is a lot of people. It's so exciting. 446 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:11,106 The whole day, I mean, I keep thinking I gotta slow down 447 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:13,251 or I'm gonna be exhausted by the time I get on at ten o'clock 448 00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:14,955 'cause I've been going since this morning. 449 00:28:14,985 --> 00:28:17,279 But, yeah, I'm just having such a fantastic time, 450 00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:19,698 the energy's so great and everybody's just like, 451 00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:21,200 "Thank you so much for doing this." 452 00:28:21,743 --> 00:28:23,243 [interviewer] 453 00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:24,494 Very first concert ever. 454 00:28:27,164 --> 00:28:30,042 'Cause I love Jewel. Love her. 455 00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,961 [♪ "Near You Always" plays] 456 00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:46,183 [audience cheers] 457 00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:49,978 [Jewel] One of the things I was criticized the most for in my music was sincerity, 458 00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,272 which is kind of funny. 459 00:28:52,356 --> 00:28:55,150 But I have to say that when I sang for Lilith, 460 00:28:55,234 --> 00:28:58,737 what I noticed in the audience was kind of unabashed sincerity. 461 00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:01,823 [♪ "Near You Always" continues] 462 00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:29,768 For me, looking around, men, especially in the '90s, 463 00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:31,979 were very hetero-focused. 464 00:29:32,062 --> 00:29:35,565 And that mentality made it where men didn't know 465 00:29:35,649 --> 00:29:38,193 that they had permission in their peer group 466 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:39,987 to go see a female concert. 467 00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:46,326 But to this day, I still see men that are metal fans love my music, 468 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:48,537 and they always come up to me kind of furtively, 469 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:51,623 and they're like, "I really like your stuff." 470 00:29:56,586 --> 00:29:57,796 [song ends] 471 00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,589 [audience cheers] 472 00:30:01,425 --> 00:30:03,444 - [Mulligan] How'd you like the concert? - It was great. 473 00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,470 - Who'd you come to see? - Tracy Chapman. 474 00:30:05,554 --> 00:30:06,555 [Mulligan] All right. 475 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,394 [♪ "Baby Can I Hold You" plays] 476 00:30:18,442 --> 00:30:21,903 [Cole] Tracy Chapman was a goddess 477 00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:24,740 and delivered such a powerful set. 478 00:30:28,035 --> 00:30:31,621 [Chapman] Lilith Fair Tour, it was a great thing to do. 479 00:30:31,705 --> 00:30:34,833 In some ways, doing a-a festival like that is actually easier 480 00:30:34,916 --> 00:30:39,129 than playing your own show because I-I didn't feel any pressure. 481 00:30:39,546 --> 00:30:41,298 None of us missed Tracy's set. 482 00:30:41,381 --> 00:30:43,383 [♪ "New Beginning" plays] 483 00:30:52,142 --> 00:30:53,602 [Runnals] After the show that night, 484 00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:56,730 the vibes were so good that we just camped backstage. 485 00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:00,692 I was in my early 20s. 486 00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:04,363 Basically, what I did was run the main stage production office. 487 00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:09,284 And it wasn't until we actually hit the road that we really understood 488 00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,620 the magnitude of what we were trying to create. 489 00:31:11,703 --> 00:31:13,497 [♪ "Sweet Surrender" plays] 490 00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:17,959 [Runnals] We realized we don't have enough crew 491 00:31:18,043 --> 00:31:21,588 to take this festival to the next city tomorrow. 492 00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:25,008 And took a couple local crew guys and hired them on the spot 493 00:31:25,092 --> 00:31:28,178 and said, "We're gonna give you 20 minutes, go home, pack a bag, 494 00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:29,941 you're on the road with us for the summer." 495 00:31:30,972 --> 00:31:33,683 By comparison, something like a Lollapalooza, 496 00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:36,144 they were doing 15 or 18 shows. 497 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:37,354 We did 40. 498 00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:41,817 So that's four or five festival shows in a week. 499 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,444 It was absolutely bonkers. 500 00:31:44,528 --> 00:31:48,448 It felt like we were building the airplane while we were already flying it. 501 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:54,079 It literally felt like there was a woman's touch 502 00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:55,330 all the way through it. 503 00:31:55,997 --> 00:31:58,667 I mean, not only women fronting bands, 504 00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:00,919 but lots of crew members that were female. 505 00:32:01,711 --> 00:32:05,132 And this was the first time you'd seen anything like it. 506 00:32:05,215 --> 00:32:07,259 Right now, we're just running big long cables 507 00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:10,429 across the stage and up and over. 508 00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:13,515 [Donlon] I think the impact was widespread. 509 00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:16,768 Lilith Fair was looking for female sound engineers 510 00:32:16,852 --> 00:32:19,855 and female techs, and now there's opportunities. 511 00:32:20,647 --> 00:32:23,233 My boss is Gord Reddy. 512 00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:29,739 [Runnals] Lilith was like this incubation 513 00:32:29,823 --> 00:32:34,244 of female talent in front of and behind the stage, 514 00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:37,539 and I think we really created something wonderful for a lot of people. 515 00:32:38,665 --> 00:32:42,169 We were the first tour to bring in extended healthcare. 516 00:32:42,252 --> 00:32:44,504 And these grown men would be crying 517 00:32:44,588 --> 00:32:46,882 because they could send their kids to the dentist. 518 00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:52,387 In hindsight, it's absolutely remarkable that we managed to do it. 519 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:58,768 [McLachlan] "Everything has found a flow. We've settled into a groove quite nicely." 520 00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,982 We are essentially a small traveling town 521 00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:06,860 "complete with all the trappings of small-town energy." 522 00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:14,743 The one thing that was a little weird… [chuckles] 523 00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:18,872 …was, especially in the beginning, there was this kind of self-consciousness. 524 00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:23,126 And there was a kind of stiffness to some of us backstage 525 00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:27,672 that didn't really break until the Indigo Girls came out. 526 00:33:27,756 --> 00:33:29,883 [♪ "Galileo" plays] 527 00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:32,093 And they just broke through all of that. 528 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:38,433 I am incredibly shy and I have terrible social anxiety. 529 00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:40,477 And in the culture I was raised in, 530 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,523 you let the more experienced people come up to you. 531 00:33:44,606 --> 00:33:47,734 I don't know why it was that way. It's just sort of how I was raised. 532 00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:51,947 You weren't allowed, in a way, to, like, go up to them. 533 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:56,535 But when I got on Lilith, I remember the Indigo Girls were 534 00:33:56,618 --> 00:33:59,538 the greeters of the tour, like, "Hi" and "Welcome." 535 00:34:00,622 --> 00:34:05,293 So it was a relief to have somebody to kind of be forward that way. [Laughs] 536 00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:08,463 [♪ "Galileo" continues] 537 00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:18,306 [audience cheering] 538 00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:21,309 [Saliers] Took a minute. 539 00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:26,231 'Cause they were like, "Amy and Emily are knocking. Don't answer the door." 540 00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:27,983 [chuckles] 541 00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:29,859 I think there's a real effort to… 542 00:34:29,943 --> 00:34:32,654 For everybody to meet each other and to support each other. 543 00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:35,156 - Hi. Karen. - What's your name? 544 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,784 I remember early on, Amy and Emily were just like, 545 00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:40,036 "Okay, who's gonna sing with us?" 546 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,664 And I was like… [gasps] "Really, you want me to sing with you? 547 00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:44,350 I would love to. I wanna sing with everybody." 548 00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:45,810 She says, "Well, why aren't you asking?" 549 00:34:45,834 --> 00:34:49,004 And I was like, "You can just do that? You can just ask?" 550 00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:53,675 I remember it being a huge lesson for me. I was like, "That was so easy." 551 00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:54,926 [chuckles] 552 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:58,388 [Saliers] Just what Amy and I are really into is making music 553 00:34:58,471 --> 00:35:00,366 a collective thing where everyone gets together and sings. 554 00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:02,392 So those are my favorite times. 555 00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:07,272 And then the idea was born of doing a last song all together. 556 00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:09,941 So suddenly, these artists were backstage 557 00:35:10,025 --> 00:35:12,694 practicing their harmonies, and it was almost surreal. 558 00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:15,238 [♪ "Big Yellow Taxi" plays] 559 00:35:17,407 --> 00:35:19,409 [McLachlan] Sheryl Crow. 560 00:35:28,668 --> 00:35:32,631 I had a sense that people were a little scared 'cause we were so gay 561 00:35:32,714 --> 00:35:35,050 and so, like, puppy dog-like 562 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:36,843 and fanning out on everybody. 563 00:35:36,926 --> 00:35:38,053 Not Sheryl. 564 00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:40,138 Do that Sheryl Crow thing on the first two lines. 565 00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:41,723 - Whatever that thing is. - [barks] 566 00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:43,475 [musicians laugh] 567 00:35:43,558 --> 00:35:44,976 - [Ray] Ready? - [Crow] Okay. 568 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:46,311 One. Two. Three. Four. 569 00:35:46,394 --> 00:35:47,729 [♪ "Tried to Be True" plays] 570 00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:49,105 [Ray] There it is. 571 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:51,628 [Saliers] You sound like Sheryl Crow. 572 00:36:02,035 --> 00:36:03,912 Yeah, that's good. That's good. 573 00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:05,765 [Ray] You sit in a room with them and you realize 574 00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:08,166 how incredibly gifted they are. 575 00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:11,127 And they've made it for a reason, you know? And it's humbling. 576 00:36:11,211 --> 00:36:14,005 Anybody that's back there, y'all, come on out and join us. 577 00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:15,590 We're gonna have a hootenanny. 578 00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:19,469 The representation for women in rock music wasn't there, 579 00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:21,930 and then particularly for queers, 580 00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:23,973 we really had to find a lot of our own way. 581 00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:25,684 - [♪ "Closer To Fine" plays] - [cheering] 582 00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:28,186 [Saliers] You know, we really wanted a broader audience. 583 00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,773 We just thought, "Well, this is a great opportunity." 584 00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:35,110 [♪ Song continues] 585 00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:01,761 [♪ Yodeling] 586 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:12,564 [cheering] 587 00:37:17,444 --> 00:37:19,922 [Saliers] I was just thrilled by that night after night after night. 588 00:37:19,946 --> 00:37:21,823 I never got tired of it. 589 00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:26,661 There were so many crystallized moments of sheer joy, you know? 590 00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:28,413 It was of the women. [Chuckles] 591 00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:30,206 [♪ Song continues] 592 00:37:43,595 --> 00:37:48,057 [Carlile] The life-affirming experience of watching the Indigo Girls. 593 00:37:48,141 --> 00:37:49,934 They were somehow part of the glue 594 00:37:50,018 --> 00:37:53,521 that held all that emotion together for those women. 595 00:37:54,564 --> 00:38:00,320 And seeing those women onstage unconcerned with whether it made them look gay 596 00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:06,117 or overtly feminist or angsty or angry or any of the things 597 00:38:06,201 --> 00:38:08,161 that the Indigo Girls were getting thrown at them. 598 00:38:15,877 --> 00:38:16,961 Everybody now. 599 00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:21,925 I just thought there's so much possibility in that. 600 00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:42,570 We're calling it Camp Lilith. It's like summer camp 601 00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:45,365 because basically all the artists' dressing room doors are open, 602 00:38:45,448 --> 00:38:47,575 everybody's playing acoustic guitar on the floor 603 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,261 and sitting around singing each other's songs. 604 00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:51,329 - [screaming] - [cheering] 605 00:38:51,412 --> 00:38:55,625 It's just a really great, positive, ego-free energy. 606 00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:58,253 [♪ "Lovefool" plays] 607 00:39:01,548 --> 00:39:04,133 [Jewel] I remember Lilith just became a freight train. 608 00:39:04,217 --> 00:39:07,595 Like, holy smokes, this took on a life of its own that you can't control. 609 00:39:09,097 --> 00:39:10,306 It kept snowballing. 610 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:14,352 Every day, it evolved and changed and it grew into so many different things. 611 00:39:15,311 --> 00:39:20,149 I don't know if any of us were understanding the magnitude of it. 612 00:39:20,984 --> 00:39:24,028 [reporter] Audience reaction to Lilith Fair was overwhelming. 613 00:39:24,654 --> 00:39:26,406 [reporter 2] Thousands of ticket sales, 614 00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:28,741 hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. 615 00:39:29,576 --> 00:39:31,828 [McLachlan] Look at what's being created. 616 00:39:31,911 --> 00:39:34,873 Look at the beautiful feeling, look at the sisterhood 617 00:39:34,956 --> 00:39:37,458 and everybody out there having this amazing experience. 618 00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:40,753 It was the best drug in the world. 619 00:39:41,754 --> 00:39:47,802 It was as if we had been out there exploring the galaxy kind of all alone, 620 00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:49,864 and when we showed up and there were all these tour buses 621 00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:51,723 and all these different women artists, 622 00:39:51,806 --> 00:39:54,350 it was like, "Whoa. Is this heaven?" 623 00:39:55,018 --> 00:39:57,145 [♪ "Lovefool" continues] 624 00:39:58,021 --> 00:39:59,272 And there was a lot of glitter. 625 00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:03,693 Sometimes I still find glitter, like, in my underwear. 626 00:40:04,611 --> 00:40:06,691 We're making money. We're making money for ourselves. 627 00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:08,418 We're making money for the music industry, 628 00:40:08,448 --> 00:40:10,128 so that gives us a certain amount of power. 629 00:40:10,491 --> 00:40:13,995 Terry was the one who said, "Well, what if we get a company 630 00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:17,582 to give us a hundred thousand dollars and talk about how they can also give 631 00:40:17,665 --> 00:40:19,375 the same amount of money to a charity?" 632 00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:25,089 They were really looking at sponsors who were true to the cause. 633 00:40:25,173 --> 00:40:27,133 Nobody was really doing that. 634 00:40:27,717 --> 00:40:29,636 [♪ "Who Will Save Your Soul" plays] 635 00:40:33,389 --> 00:40:36,059 She would take a dollar from every ticket sold 636 00:40:36,142 --> 00:40:39,729 and give it to a local charity 637 00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:41,230 for every place that we went to. 638 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:45,652 In the spirit of Lilith Fair, in the spirit of promoting women, 639 00:40:45,735 --> 00:40:48,863 promoting a cure for this cancer once and for all. 640 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,699 We have given $2.5 million to charity 641 00:40:51,783 --> 00:40:56,120 which made me extremely proud to be a part of this whole thing. 642 00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:59,082 [cheering] 643 00:41:00,041 --> 00:41:02,627 [Jewel] Everybody was doing well on that lineup. 644 00:41:04,837 --> 00:41:06,673 We were having massive hits. 645 00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:10,551 I went from selling zero records in three years 646 00:41:10,635 --> 00:41:12,428 to selling a million albums every month. 647 00:41:13,888 --> 00:41:17,225 Sarah was just starting to test run her new album, Surfacing. 648 00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:22,355 [reporter] Her fourth album debuted at number two on the Billboard charts. 649 00:41:23,272 --> 00:41:26,150 [Colvin] It was all, like, hitting us really quickly. 650 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,738 And for me, serendipitously, 651 00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:34,283 I was having a hit record come up the charts, 652 00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:37,453 and the only reason I did know what was happening is 653 00:41:37,537 --> 00:41:40,081 because of the audiences at Lilith Fair. 654 00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:42,893 - [audience cheering] - [♪ "Sunny Came Home" plays] 655 00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:46,087 And we would start it with that… [imitates guitar riff] 656 00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:50,008 …and my band mates and I just looked at each other 657 00:41:50,091 --> 00:41:52,301 and we were like, "What is going on here?" 658 00:41:52,385 --> 00:41:55,096 When we started getting that reaction, I'll just never forget it. 659 00:41:55,763 --> 00:42:00,059 [♪ "Sunny Came Home" continues] 660 00:42:28,671 --> 00:42:34,802 I never expected to play in front of 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people, ever. 661 00:42:34,886 --> 00:42:36,387 And I felt lucky. 662 00:42:38,681 --> 00:42:42,018 [McLachlan] The first year of Lilith Fair was such a massive success. 663 00:42:43,019 --> 00:42:45,021 And then a few months later, 664 00:42:45,104 --> 00:42:50,902 Paula, Shawn, Sheryl, Jewel, Meredith and myself, 665 00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:54,072 we were all nominated at that year's Grammys. 666 00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:56,199 [song ends] 667 00:42:56,282 --> 00:42:58,159 [audience cheering] 668 00:42:58,242 --> 00:43:00,203 [Colvin] This was my dream come true. 669 00:43:01,621 --> 00:43:05,416 I wrote a song that was nominated for Grammy Awards. 670 00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:10,296 [Badu] And the Grammy goes to… 671 00:43:11,214 --> 00:43:13,841 Shawn Colvin and John Leventhal. 672 00:43:13,925 --> 00:43:17,553 Songwriter, Shawn Colvin. John Leventhal, producer. 673 00:43:18,554 --> 00:43:19,639 This is too cool. 674 00:43:19,722 --> 00:43:22,892 We've been doing this a long time, and, uh, it's been a long road, 675 00:43:22,975 --> 00:43:24,519 and this does matter. 676 00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:26,771 - We appreciate it, thank you. - [audience cheers] 677 00:43:26,854 --> 00:43:29,941 We were all nominated for multiple, multiple Grammys. 678 00:43:30,024 --> 00:43:31,692 I was nominated for seven that night. 679 00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:36,697 And now let's find out who this year's best new artist will be. 680 00:43:36,781 --> 00:43:38,116 - Paula Cole. - [speaker] All right. 681 00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,118 [audience cheering] 682 00:43:40,868 --> 00:43:44,831 This is my dream, getting this award from Aretha Franklin. [Chuckles] 683 00:43:46,541 --> 00:43:48,876 That was amazing. 684 00:43:50,086 --> 00:43:53,673 [Colvin] But then Paula Cole, Sarah McLachlan and I 685 00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:57,426 were asked to share the stage and do this medley, 686 00:43:57,510 --> 00:44:01,681 instead of each of us being able to play our own songs. 687 00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,225 Every single song that was nominated for Record of the Year 688 00:44:04,308 --> 00:44:07,186 should have had their own spot. 689 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:10,189 [McLachlan] At the beginning of it, we were like, "This is bullshit." 690 00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:12,316 The other nominees, Hanson and R. Kelly, 691 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,529 got to perform on their own, so why lump us all together? 692 00:44:16,612 --> 00:44:18,072 We were in the green room. 693 00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:20,437 Like, I know there was a conversation of, "Do we boycott?" 694 00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,327 Tonight, to celebrate the remarkable music created 695 00:44:23,411 --> 00:44:25,997 by women last year, here are three great performers. 696 00:44:26,873 --> 00:44:28,708 [McLachlan] Ultimately, the decision was, 697 00:44:28,791 --> 00:44:30,793 "Okay, well, we'll do it. We're not happy about it, 698 00:44:30,877 --> 00:44:33,629 but this is not the hill we're gonna die on today." 699 00:44:35,047 --> 00:44:38,968 [Cole] We were still made into a token. 700 00:44:39,051 --> 00:44:42,263 "Women, it's women, it's…" [chuckles] What a notion. 701 00:44:43,598 --> 00:44:46,851 [Colvin] It was just sad. It was just sad. 702 00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:49,037 It's always haunted me, was that the right thing to do, 703 00:44:49,061 --> 00:44:51,230 to just take what we were offered? 704 00:44:52,565 --> 00:44:56,027 Looking back on it, just say, "No, we're not gonna perform." 705 00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:57,528 That would have been radical. 706 00:44:57,612 --> 00:44:59,332 And they might have done something about it. 707 00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:03,242 So in my stupid fucking unmusical medley, 708 00:45:03,326 --> 00:45:05,119 I happened to raise my hand, 709 00:45:05,203 --> 00:45:07,705 and I didn't shave my armpits. 710 00:45:08,831 --> 00:45:10,666 And, like, that became a thing. 711 00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:16,881 [McLachlan] I was so angry for Paula to be diminished like that 712 00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:19,467 after such a huge night. 713 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:23,095 Who cares? But that's what it became about. 714 00:45:23,179 --> 00:45:26,807 The desire for wealth is as natural as Paula Cole's armpits. 715 00:45:26,891 --> 00:45:29,727 - Where have all the razor blades gone? - Sir, please. 716 00:45:29,810 --> 00:45:31,062 Sir, please. 717 00:45:31,145 --> 00:45:34,273 I think I know why the cowboys aren't coming around. [Laughs] 718 00:45:34,357 --> 00:45:37,151 You know what? At first, I thought she had Don King in a headlock. 719 00:45:37,235 --> 00:45:39,237 - That's what I thought. - [audience laughs] 720 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,447 [Cole] Then there's Jay Leno on fucking Tonight Show 721 00:45:41,530 --> 00:45:44,033 shining his shoes because it was such a joke. 722 00:45:44,617 --> 00:45:47,411 Then they wanted me to be on the show and, like, laugh along with it, 723 00:45:47,495 --> 00:45:49,288 and I just… No, you know? 724 00:45:50,915 --> 00:45:54,126 [McLachlan blows] You just pick yourself back up, 725 00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:57,505 and you believe, and you keep going, and that's what being an artist is. 726 00:45:58,965 --> 00:46:02,593 We did all this, but, God, we're still... we're still here. 727 00:46:02,677 --> 00:46:03,761 Shit, okay. 728 00:46:05,012 --> 00:46:06,681 Well, we just gotta keep going. 729 00:46:13,646 --> 00:46:16,315 [McBride] Lilith was, of all of the big organized festivals, 730 00:46:16,399 --> 00:46:20,152 was the most successful monetarily and, uh, everybody loved it. 731 00:46:22,113 --> 00:46:25,783 Lilith Fair was a huge success, so Sarah decided to do it again. 732 00:46:31,664 --> 00:46:33,749 [Diamond] As many accolades as we were getting, 733 00:46:34,959 --> 00:46:36,794 we were getting slammed every once in a while, 734 00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:38,504 being called "Lily-white Fair," 735 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,549 that there wasn't enough diversity. 736 00:46:48,848 --> 00:46:52,393 [reporter] How intentional was it that there was no hip-hop artists or anything? 737 00:46:52,476 --> 00:46:56,605 I suppose, uh, the lineup is not as diverse as it could be. 738 00:46:56,689 --> 00:46:59,317 [Saliers] I remember when the criticism was first coming in, 739 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,777 she was very open-minded to accepting it, 740 00:47:01,861 --> 00:47:03,529 working her way through it, you know, 741 00:47:03,612 --> 00:47:05,740 admitting that maybe mistakes were made. 742 00:47:05,823 --> 00:47:07,742 That's something I've always admired about her 743 00:47:07,825 --> 00:47:10,661 was her public discussion of, "Well, let me think about that. 744 00:47:10,745 --> 00:47:13,873 Maybe you're right, maybe there's something more I need to think about." 745 00:47:13,956 --> 00:47:17,877 We're growing and-and learning as we go because this is the first time, 746 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,087 like I said, any of us have done this. 747 00:47:20,171 --> 00:47:23,007 So, there's lots of little mistakes, but they're all lessons, 748 00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:26,177 they're all valuable lessons, you know, that enable us to get better. 749 00:47:27,762 --> 00:47:31,182 [Diamond] In year one, we had an opportunity that we never seized. 750 00:47:31,807 --> 00:47:35,519 We need to really do outreach in terms of other artists 751 00:47:35,603 --> 00:47:38,856 and live in the solution, not the problem. 752 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,025 And as a matter of fact, Lilith '98, 753 00:47:41,108 --> 00:47:43,778 they're talking about the addition now of some of the R&B acts, 754 00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:45,654 and Erykah Badu is gonna be added. 755 00:47:46,655 --> 00:47:50,117 I'm Erykah Badu, and I'd like to thank you for having me. 756 00:47:50,201 --> 00:47:51,786 [audience cheers] 757 00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:54,163 [♪ "On & On" plays] 758 00:48:14,892 --> 00:48:16,769 This is the best concert I've ever been to. 759 00:48:16,852 --> 00:48:18,062 Who's your favorite? 760 00:48:18,854 --> 00:48:20,940 Oh. Erykah Badu. Definitely. 761 00:48:22,191 --> 00:48:26,195 [Badu] I know that being a part of the Lilith Fair 762 00:48:26,278 --> 00:48:28,280 expanded my audience greatly. 763 00:48:28,364 --> 00:48:32,660 You know, people who would not get to hear of an Erykah Badu, 764 00:48:32,743 --> 00:48:37,081 or listen to even my type of genre of music 765 00:48:37,164 --> 00:48:38,958 - were exposed to it. - [audience cheers] 766 00:48:39,041 --> 00:48:43,129 I just adorn myself with my culture and share that with everybody. 767 00:48:43,212 --> 00:48:47,383 Come as I am and, you know, they accept it and love it because I am me. 768 00:48:49,009 --> 00:48:50,845 I just thought that was the way it was, 769 00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:53,222 because before, I hadn't experienced 770 00:48:53,305 --> 00:48:57,893 any of the negative stuff that happens. 771 00:48:57,977 --> 00:49:02,523 My welcome into the industry was by Sarah McLachlan and Bonnie Raitt. 772 00:49:02,606 --> 00:49:05,317 - [drums rolling] - [audience cheering] 773 00:49:10,197 --> 00:49:14,160 [McLachlan] And we grew the commercial viability of the festival 774 00:49:14,243 --> 00:49:16,662 because we had a diverse group of artists. 775 00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:25,963 [Crow] What we hadn't seen on other festivals was 776 00:49:26,046 --> 00:49:30,718 a very mixed genre platform. 777 00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:35,973 It was, like, Emmylou Harris or Meshell Ndegeocello. 778 00:49:36,056 --> 00:49:38,058 Then you had Missy Elliott. 779 00:49:38,934 --> 00:49:43,147 They were women that were all at the top of their game in their world. 780 00:49:46,025 --> 00:49:48,402 [Coppola] Missy Elliott was already an icon. 781 00:49:49,195 --> 00:49:51,447 She was the shit. 782 00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:55,618 And when I found out she was doing a short set, 783 00:49:55,701 --> 00:49:58,704 yeah, it's a big fucking deal. It's Missy Elliott. Come on. 784 00:50:00,414 --> 00:50:02,166 [McLachlan] I loved Missy Elliott. 785 00:50:02,249 --> 00:50:04,251 But when we booked her, she'd never toured before. 786 00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:07,379 She did her first touring dates on Lilith. 787 00:50:07,463 --> 00:50:11,425 You could just feel the energy of the day just kind of build and build and build. 788 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:15,638 [Rempel] She was meant to arrive at a certain time, 789 00:50:15,721 --> 00:50:17,723 and there's no Missy Elliott. 790 00:50:17,806 --> 00:50:19,475 And then we get a call, it's like, 791 00:50:19,558 --> 00:50:23,103 "Oh, hey. Uh, my bus broke down. I'm on a highway five miles away. 792 00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:25,689 - "But I'm gonna get there." - [car tires screech] 793 00:50:25,773 --> 00:50:29,485 Five minutes later, this red convertible pulls up, 794 00:50:29,568 --> 00:50:31,904 some dude she's flagged down on the highway. 795 00:50:31,987 --> 00:50:35,074 She comes out, she puts on her inflatable suit. 796 00:50:35,157 --> 00:50:38,369 - What's up, y'all? - [Rempel] And it happened. 797 00:50:38,452 --> 00:50:39,745 - Uh. - [audience cheers] 798 00:50:39,828 --> 00:50:43,290 Hey, yo, you know what? Me, I'm supa fly. 799 00:50:43,374 --> 00:50:46,877 And you're about to get up. Get up with me. 800 00:50:46,961 --> 00:50:50,381 All of a sudden, you see the audience respond to her. 801 00:50:53,968 --> 00:50:56,554 And she fucking nailed that shit. 802 00:50:56,637 --> 00:51:00,099 [♪ "Sock It 2 Me" plays] 803 00:51:19,201 --> 00:51:20,911 [Elliott] It was a beautiful thing. 804 00:51:20,995 --> 00:51:23,998 I don't know that I was gonna get the response that I got. 805 00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:27,418 I felt good when I was first asked, you know. 806 00:51:28,586 --> 00:51:30,879 And this only just put the icing on the cake. 807 00:51:30,963 --> 00:51:32,172 Ladies. 808 00:51:32,256 --> 00:51:34,300 [♪ "Ladies First" plays] 809 00:51:35,551 --> 00:51:37,052 Come on. Yeah. 810 00:51:57,948 --> 00:52:00,451 This is one of the best tours I've ever been on. 811 00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:03,412 I came out on the road to rock these stages, 812 00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:04,997 and I wanted to do it. 813 00:52:05,831 --> 00:52:08,542 I think it's a good thing that we highlight ourselves 814 00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:11,545 and give ourselves, you know, give the ladies in that audience 815 00:52:11,629 --> 00:52:13,464 a positive image to look at. 816 00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:15,267 Of women who are out here doing their thing. 817 00:52:15,341 --> 00:52:16,508 [♪ "Ready To Run" plays] 818 00:52:16,592 --> 00:52:20,220 You got Dixie Chicks who bring you kind of a country feeling. 819 00:52:20,304 --> 00:52:22,681 We doing it, that's all I can really say. 820 00:52:38,989 --> 00:52:42,618 The irony is the people who criticized never went. 821 00:52:47,122 --> 00:52:48,123 [song ends] 822 00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:59,301 Early on, there were a lot of female critics 823 00:52:59,927 --> 00:53:02,429 who kinda ripped the crap out of us. 824 00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:09,228 I just don't know how much more of these little, waifish 825 00:53:09,311 --> 00:53:11,313 alternative singers I can take. 826 00:53:13,857 --> 00:53:17,277 Now please, just give me an old-fashioned, 827 00:53:17,361 --> 00:53:21,490 sweaty, big-tittied bitch of rock and roll, okay? 828 00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:22,950 [audience cheers] 829 00:53:23,033 --> 00:53:27,913 Before I really knew that much about it, I just assumed it was sort of very, um, 830 00:53:27,996 --> 00:53:31,291 like Ladies, you know, of the Canyon vibe. 831 00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:34,420 The earnestness of it made it a little bit like 832 00:53:34,503 --> 00:53:37,715 this was not to be taken as seriously as it should have been. 833 00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:41,135 I was kinda, like, poking at it one minute, but why am I poking at it? 834 00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:43,846 'Cause I really would like to be… hang out with all these people. 835 00:53:44,847 --> 00:53:46,557 That's really what I wanted to do. 836 00:53:47,182 --> 00:53:50,853 I said, "Just come. Come and see this and witness it, 837 00:53:50,936 --> 00:53:52,521 and I think you'll change your mind." 838 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,691 [Bernhard] Sarah McLachlan called me, and she said, 839 00:53:55,774 --> 00:53:59,653 "Sandra, we're putting together somewhat of an experiment. It could fail. 840 00:53:59,737 --> 00:54:02,656 We need your light, your love, your energy. Will you be there for us?" 841 00:54:02,740 --> 00:54:04,616 I said, "You better believe it, baby." 842 00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:06,785 - [cheering] - [applause] 843 00:54:06,869 --> 00:54:08,370 They brought people like me on. 844 00:54:08,454 --> 00:54:10,914 So they wanted somebody with some edge. 845 00:54:10,998 --> 00:54:14,460 And then the dates that I was on, Chrissie Hynde was on. 846 00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:16,879 And then the two of us were, like, stirring shit up. 847 00:54:18,255 --> 00:54:22,468 Now, when these women wrote a lyric and sang a song, you know they had lived it. 848 00:54:22,551 --> 00:54:23,737 They wrote it, sang it, snorted it. 849 00:54:23,761 --> 00:54:25,697 They fucked it. They lived it. They created the road. 850 00:54:25,721 --> 00:54:27,556 There was no road before these women. 851 00:54:28,307 --> 00:54:31,018 One, two… One, two, drink your beer! 852 00:54:31,101 --> 00:54:34,021 [♪ "Message of Love" plays] 853 00:54:34,646 --> 00:54:38,442 [McBride] At first, Chrissie Hynde was not a big advocate of Lilith Fair. 854 00:54:38,525 --> 00:54:40,527 [McLachlan] She came on with a bit of an attitude. 855 00:54:40,611 --> 00:54:43,781 She was like, "I don't even know what I'm doing here with you bitches." 856 00:54:43,864 --> 00:54:45,073 And as the shows went on, 857 00:54:45,157 --> 00:54:47,826 she warmed up and went, "Oh, this is actually… this is really fun." 858 00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:50,746 [♪ "Message of Love" continues] 859 00:54:57,503 --> 00:54:59,588 [McLachlan] During "Middle of the Road," 860 00:54:59,671 --> 00:55:03,342 I basically went and flashed them right before the solo. 861 00:55:03,842 --> 00:55:06,345 [audience cheers] 862 00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:10,974 Gobsmacked, Chrissie falls to her knees and makes a big deal. 863 00:55:11,058 --> 00:55:13,602 I was like, "Yes. I brought Chrissie Hynde to her knees." 864 00:55:13,685 --> 00:55:15,562 I saw them. [Chuckles] 865 00:55:16,855 --> 00:55:19,399 And, my God, they were beautiful. 866 00:55:22,027 --> 00:55:23,904 [Hynde] Well, they think I'm such a hard-ass. 867 00:55:23,987 --> 00:55:26,990 I thought it would be a little bit more flowy dresses and stuff, you know. 868 00:55:27,491 --> 00:55:29,034 But it was just a good tour to get on. 869 00:55:29,117 --> 00:55:30,536 I don't care that it's women. 870 00:55:30,619 --> 00:55:33,664 [♪ "Message Of Love" continues] 871 00:55:42,756 --> 00:55:45,175 If you're talking about women in rock, 872 00:55:45,259 --> 00:55:47,302 if you must, and it is just a media fabrication, 873 00:55:47,386 --> 00:55:49,388 'cause no one really thinks about stuff like this. 874 00:55:49,471 --> 00:55:50,764 There's a lot of pages to fill. 875 00:55:50,848 --> 00:55:55,310 It's mostly the girl journalists that give me all this "women in rock" thing. 876 00:55:55,394 --> 00:55:56,770 [♪ "Bitch" plays] 877 00:55:56,854 --> 00:55:59,898 [Powers] I was working at Spin and The New York Times. 878 00:56:00,607 --> 00:56:05,737 Every year was "the year of women in rock." Every single year. 879 00:56:05,821 --> 00:56:09,157 That was something that I just rolled with because I didn't have any choice. 880 00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:15,122 You tell a bunch of boys that there's going to be this festival 881 00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:19,001 targeted at young women, ah, you know what their reaction's gonna be. 882 00:56:19,084 --> 00:56:22,296 It's not gonna be, "Yeah, let's go." It's gonna be a laugh. 883 00:56:22,379 --> 00:56:24,423 Because it's aimed at the wrong people. 884 00:56:25,591 --> 00:56:27,426 It's aimed at regular women. 885 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,139 Somehow, by the '90s, we had developed this idea 886 00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:35,684 the teenage girl is this frivolous person. 887 00:56:35,767 --> 00:56:38,270 And forget adult women. 888 00:56:39,313 --> 00:56:43,859 The idea that a mom would wanna go to a musical festival? Oh, my goodness. 889 00:56:43,942 --> 00:56:45,694 [♪ "Bitch" continues] 890 00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:08,759 Just walking in and seeing all the women together, 891 00:57:08,842 --> 00:57:12,930 after going to concerts for 15 years 892 00:57:13,013 --> 00:57:16,433 and only being, you know, one of few women among men, 893 00:57:16,516 --> 00:57:18,602 that was such a great shift. 894 00:57:19,394 --> 00:57:24,608 That felt amazing to me as, like, a longtime music fan and music critic, 895 00:57:24,691 --> 00:57:26,985 but also weird. 896 00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:33,784 Lilith Fair came from a very radical place, 897 00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:38,830 but in the moment, it felt totally mainstream, 898 00:57:38,914 --> 00:57:39,998 totally in the center. 899 00:57:40,082 --> 00:57:41,917 And that was its power. 900 00:57:44,086 --> 00:57:49,466 Every day we did this press conference, which was a pain in the ass. 901 00:57:51,802 --> 00:57:53,303 Just something I've been reading, 902 00:57:53,387 --> 00:57:56,306 people referring to this show as "Chick-apalooza" and your reaction. 903 00:58:03,897 --> 00:58:06,108 [McLachlan] It was hard. It was also embarrassing. 904 00:58:06,191 --> 00:58:08,068 It was frustrating because I felt like, 905 00:58:08,151 --> 00:58:10,445 you know, sometimes the criticism wasn't warranted. 906 00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:15,826 "Here's my stock ten adjectives that I'm going to punch in to this review." 907 00:58:15,909 --> 00:58:19,454 And I don't find anybody adequately critiques anything anymore. 908 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,915 Calling it "Vulva-palooza" 909 00:58:21,999 --> 00:58:27,295 and, like, all of these just ridiculously derogatory crazy things. 910 00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:30,507 There were many times I wanted to say, "Fuck you." 911 00:58:30,590 --> 00:58:33,552 [reporter] Don't you lose some power when you become mainstream? 912 00:58:33,635 --> 00:58:36,304 [sighs] I want it to be successful. 913 00:58:36,388 --> 00:58:38,098 [journalist] 914 00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:43,687 I think the danger lies in the media lumping all women together. 915 00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:45,731 [reporter] Time magazine last week just reported 916 00:58:45,814 --> 00:58:47,291 "The death of feminism." Is this true? 917 00:58:47,315 --> 00:58:52,237 Oh, please. The death of feminism? Okay, well, are we as women dead? 918 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,699 The most idiotic questions. 919 00:58:55,782 --> 00:58:59,703 I just wanna know if any of you guys wanna dish some dirt on-on your fellow artists? 920 00:59:00,287 --> 00:59:02,098 [reporter] Do you guys have a slumber party in between shows? 921 00:59:02,122 --> 00:59:04,458 [reporter 2] Is it still mostly a chick thing? 922 00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:07,461 [reporter 3] Respond to the criticism that, "They must hate men." 923 00:59:07,544 --> 00:59:10,088 [reporter 4] Man-haters. These women hate men. 924 00:59:10,172 --> 00:59:13,800 I don't think, personally, that any of us necessarily are against men. 925 00:59:14,384 --> 00:59:17,512 [reporter 5] The perception being that this music is for women only. 926 00:59:17,596 --> 00:59:20,098 I don't understand why it's considered exclusionary. 927 00:59:20,724 --> 00:59:23,560 I think when we were just getting lambasted by the press, 928 00:59:23,643 --> 00:59:26,855 one time I said, "God, maybe we should include men." 929 00:59:26,938 --> 00:59:31,109 We also plan to be… starting to include men as headliners as well. 930 00:59:31,193 --> 00:59:34,613 Emmylou was like, "Whoa, whoa, honey." 931 00:59:34,696 --> 00:59:36,698 [chuckles] 932 00:59:36,782 --> 00:59:40,577 "Can I just say, don't go there." 933 00:59:41,203 --> 00:59:44,498 She said, "Let it be what it is. Y-You got this." 934 00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:48,543 And I was like, "Yeah, I do. Thank you." 935 00:59:49,628 --> 00:59:53,882 Well, I mean, at that point, it seemed to me it was already a success. 936 00:59:54,591 --> 00:59:58,637 So I can't imagine why she would've felt any doubt. 937 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,516 When you think back to before there was Lilith Fair, 938 01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:04,726 there was so much opposition to it. 939 01:00:04,810 --> 01:00:08,897 There was so much negativity about the fact that we were… 940 01:00:08,980 --> 01:00:14,444 But I can't, uh, emphasize enough what Sarah has accomplished. 941 01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:19,116 Women are political simply for saying, "I deserve space." 942 01:00:20,075 --> 01:00:23,370 People read too much into this, into Lilith, and make an issue. 943 01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:26,182 Because that's how everyone makes a living by making an issue out of something. 944 01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:28,434 Actually, it just happens that they're all women artists, 945 01:00:28,458 --> 01:00:31,378 and no one's really making a big statement, do you know what I mean? 946 01:00:33,338 --> 01:00:35,423 [McLachlan] Sinéad was treated horribly by the press 947 01:00:35,507 --> 01:00:38,260 and wider culture for speaking out, 948 01:00:38,343 --> 01:00:42,347 and being her authentic self, unapologetic. 949 01:00:42,430 --> 01:00:45,392 We were all so inspired by her honesty. 950 01:00:45,475 --> 01:00:48,854 [reporter] Your website says a special guest will open the show at 4:40. 951 01:00:48,937 --> 01:00:51,356 - Yeah, well, we'll have to see… - [audience member chuckles] 952 01:00:52,649 --> 01:00:55,402 [all laugh] 953 01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:58,822 [O'Connor] To get there and find that I was so kind of respected by those women 954 01:00:58,905 --> 01:01:03,368 was a major boost to my kind of confidence and self-esteem, you know what I mean? 955 01:01:03,451 --> 01:01:05,787 That in the very male world, you can often feel… 956 01:01:05,871 --> 01:01:07,765 In the male world of media and the music business 957 01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:10,629 you can often feel very unheard as a woman artist, you know what I mean? 958 01:01:10,709 --> 01:01:12,711 But I realized actually that I had been heard. 959 01:01:13,503 --> 01:01:16,381 Yes, I found it a very healing experience. 960 01:01:16,464 --> 01:01:18,508 [♪ "Fire On Babylon" plays] 961 01:01:18,592 --> 01:01:21,094 [Merchant] Nobody missed her set ever. 962 01:01:21,178 --> 01:01:26,308 She would walk out on stage and open her mouth and the sound… 963 01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:32,480 One of the most chilling sounds I've ever heard was Sinéad crying "Fire on Babylon" 964 01:01:32,564 --> 01:01:36,318 through a massive wall of speakers to 35,000 people. 965 01:01:37,444 --> 01:01:39,738 [♪ Song continues] 966 01:02:08,141 --> 01:02:11,478 [McLachlan] Sinéad was really important for me to have on, 967 01:02:11,561 --> 01:02:16,608 because I was so in awe of her and her immense power. 968 01:02:16,691 --> 01:02:18,276 [audience cheers] 969 01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:26,576 And then to get to know her a little bit and to see the vulnerability. 970 01:02:26,660 --> 01:02:28,954 [♪ "Angel" plays] 971 01:03:28,096 --> 01:03:29,848 She's showing me the way. 972 01:03:30,557 --> 01:03:32,934 If I can create something half as good as her. 973 01:03:36,730 --> 01:03:40,317 I keep telling people that if the world outside the Lilith Fair 974 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,987 were more like this, I'd wanna spend more time out there, you know? [Chuckles] 975 01:03:45,322 --> 01:03:47,449 [Diamond] In year two, we needed a co-headliner, 976 01:03:48,033 --> 01:03:50,327 and our first call and only call was Natalie. 977 01:03:51,995 --> 01:03:56,291 Natalie really embodied free spirit. She had a freakin' swing. 978 01:03:56,374 --> 01:03:58,835 [♪ "Kind & Generous" plays] 979 01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:01,212 [Merchant] It just sounded like an incredible opportunity, 980 01:04:01,296 --> 01:04:03,590 because when I left 10,000 Maniacs 981 01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:06,593 after 12 years of feeling like I was the last woman on earth. 982 01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:10,388 I had made a concerted effort to distance myself 983 01:04:10,472 --> 01:04:13,933 from what was going on in the business of music. 984 01:04:14,642 --> 01:04:19,522 But Lilith was gentle and friendly, and I loved that. 985 01:04:19,606 --> 01:04:21,900 - We're at Lilith Fair. Yeah. - We're best friends. 986 01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,234 Is it on? 987 01:04:23,318 --> 01:04:24,958 - Now press the red button. - I already did. 988 01:04:24,986 --> 01:04:26,196 - Hello, world. - Hi, world. 989 01:04:26,279 --> 01:04:30,658 You're saving lives here. And you're opening up a world 990 01:04:30,742 --> 01:04:34,746 to people who would have no way of getting there, any other way. 991 01:04:34,829 --> 01:04:35,830 It's the coolest place 992 01:04:35,914 --> 01:04:39,167 because everybody can express themselves internally and externally 993 01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:40,251 and everyone's accepted. 994 01:04:40,335 --> 01:04:44,214 It's like a get-together place, like, where everyone can get together and… 995 01:04:44,297 --> 01:04:45,548 - Have fun. - …have fun. 996 01:04:45,632 --> 01:04:48,468 It's been such an inspiration to all our lives. 997 01:04:48,551 --> 01:04:53,098 And I'm grateful to be here today. My heart is truly glad. I love you, Sarah. 998 01:04:53,181 --> 01:04:55,534 - You're the only one that would listen. - You're here. Thank you. 999 01:04:55,558 --> 01:04:56,559 Thank you very much. 1000 01:04:56,643 --> 01:04:57,953 - Feel so much better now. - Me too. 1001 01:04:57,977 --> 01:05:01,898 I'm really happy that there's something like this that can help. 1002 01:05:02,982 --> 01:05:04,818 I'm crying. I have to go back out there. 1003 01:05:04,901 --> 01:05:07,112 [♪ "Kind & Generous" continues] 1004 01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:10,740 [Merchant] 1005 01:05:16,037 --> 01:05:17,372 Oh! 1006 01:05:26,881 --> 01:05:31,553 [Levy] When I attended Lilith Fair, it was a gorgeously sunny day, 1007 01:05:31,636 --> 01:05:32,929 but there's also the possibility 1008 01:05:33,012 --> 01:05:38,143 that my memory is just wrapped in this golden, sepia glow 1009 01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:44,482 because being there was one of the earliest memories I've had of safety. 1010 01:05:46,401 --> 01:05:50,947 I was 12 or 13 at the time and still in the closet 1011 01:05:51,448 --> 01:05:55,910 and had been bullied and never really felt safe anywhere that I was 1012 01:05:55,994 --> 01:05:57,454 because I wasn't being myself. 1013 01:05:58,997 --> 01:06:04,169 But when you look around and you see people smiling and laughing 1014 01:06:04,252 --> 01:06:06,212 and holding on to each other, 1015 01:06:07,672 --> 01:06:12,886 and you just had people who were seeing themselves, celebrating themselves, 1016 01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:16,306 it felt like this kind of quiet revolution. 1017 01:06:16,389 --> 01:06:19,726 I was like, "What is this freedom? 1018 01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:22,896 So many happy people, hugging and kissing." 1019 01:06:29,402 --> 01:06:34,449 I am the Lilith Fairy. F-A-I-R… "Fair" with a "y." 1020 01:06:34,532 --> 01:06:36,576 I came here and I was very timid. 1021 01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:40,121 Being surrounded by so many strong women helped me come out to myself 1022 01:06:40,205 --> 01:06:42,123 and to be totally honest and not to be inhibited 1023 01:06:42,207 --> 01:06:43,458 around other people anymore. 1024 01:06:43,541 --> 01:06:45,461 - It just helped me so much. - [concert goer] Whoo! 1025 01:06:47,170 --> 01:06:49,005 [Nguyen] When I think back, 1026 01:06:50,298 --> 01:06:52,008 I think was 12 years old. 1027 01:06:53,384 --> 01:06:57,639 Being queer, but at that age, not understanding what that was. 1028 01:06:58,932 --> 01:07:02,185 To that point, I'd never been to a real concert. 1029 01:07:03,603 --> 01:07:07,232 I recall groups of queer friends or whatever. 1030 01:07:07,315 --> 01:07:09,115 But at the time, it didn't occur to me at all. 1031 01:07:09,150 --> 01:07:11,194 I was just like, "These people look fun." 1032 01:07:13,238 --> 01:07:15,448 But I have to be honest, 1033 01:07:15,532 --> 01:07:19,160 I think misogyny and homophobia made it an easy target. 1034 01:07:19,827 --> 01:07:22,830 It's almost as though you wouldn't hear it referenced in the mainstream 1035 01:07:22,914 --> 01:07:25,416 without it being the joke. 1036 01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:28,419 The largest collection of female rock singers ever 1037 01:07:28,503 --> 01:07:29,504 to tour together. 1038 01:07:29,587 --> 01:07:31,923 I wrote a song about it, and I'd like to share it. 1039 01:07:32,006 --> 01:07:33,758 I think it'll really move some people. 1040 01:07:33,841 --> 01:07:37,136 - It's called, uh, "Sausage of Pain." - [audience laughs] 1041 01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:40,306 Listen to me. I'm a bi-level haircut away from Lilith Fair. 1042 01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:47,272 And so, I just tried to be a part of that more dominant narrative 1043 01:07:47,355 --> 01:07:49,941 of this fucking joke, you know. 1044 01:07:50,024 --> 01:07:52,735 Like, I'm also in on the joke, so don't… You know? 1045 01:07:52,819 --> 01:07:54,487 I won't be associated 1046 01:07:54,571 --> 01:07:57,907 with what you think that was, you know? 1047 01:07:58,533 --> 01:08:00,868 But, I mean, how devastating is that? 1048 01:08:00,952 --> 01:08:04,581 You know, I participated in the disparagement 1049 01:08:04,664 --> 01:08:09,002 of my own components. 1050 01:08:15,758 --> 01:08:17,903 [concertgoer] I think it's one of the only places that you can go 1051 01:08:17,927 --> 01:08:23,725 where being a racist or a homophobe or somebody like that, 1052 01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:24,934 you're in the minority. 1053 01:08:25,018 --> 01:08:26,728 [cheering] 1054 01:08:26,811 --> 01:08:29,606 [Vega] The media's perception was that it was all women, 1055 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:31,709 but actually, there were a lot of men who came 1056 01:08:31,733 --> 01:08:34,319 because they love women and they wanted to see women performing. 1057 01:08:34,402 --> 01:08:37,071 - We're here to see Sarah McLachlan! - Whoo! 1058 01:08:37,155 --> 01:08:39,324 No other way to say it. It's Sarah McLachlan. 1059 01:08:39,407 --> 01:08:42,910 She is the best. She brings out the love in all of us. 1060 01:08:44,454 --> 01:08:48,791 [McLachlan] Every festival that I knew of, I wouldn't wanna go. 1061 01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:51,669 Because I don't think I'd feel particularly safe. 1062 01:08:54,547 --> 01:08:58,635 And I feel like Lilith is sort of the antithesis of that. 1063 01:08:58,718 --> 01:09:00,803 [♪ "Never Said" plays] 1064 01:09:02,138 --> 01:09:04,724 [cheering] 1065 01:09:29,332 --> 01:09:34,420 [Phair] There was no question that everyone who was there was welcome. 1066 01:09:34,504 --> 01:09:36,589 They were not just coming to see music. 1067 01:09:36,673 --> 01:09:39,133 They were coming to support an idea. 1068 01:09:39,217 --> 01:09:42,595 I can be safe. I can be respected. 1069 01:09:42,679 --> 01:09:44,430 I can be open. 1070 01:09:45,932 --> 01:09:48,309 I haven't been on a bill like that. 1071 01:09:49,310 --> 01:09:51,938 That was a very Sarah experience. 1072 01:09:52,021 --> 01:09:54,065 - [squeals] - [giggles] 1073 01:09:54,148 --> 01:09:55,983 I'm not slipping in my tongue. I'm not. 1074 01:09:59,153 --> 01:10:03,491 [Vega] The way she interacted with people backstage was humble. 1075 01:10:03,574 --> 01:10:06,202 It was kind. It was very deeply spiritual. 1076 01:10:06,285 --> 01:10:09,831 She would leave you little gifts. She would leave little notes. 1077 01:10:09,914 --> 01:10:11,999 [song ends] 1078 01:10:12,834 --> 01:10:15,795 [Merchant] Sarah thought this is our home away from home. 1079 01:10:15,878 --> 01:10:18,172 Let's make it feel that way. 1080 01:10:19,799 --> 01:10:22,260 There were pillows and tapestries… [chuckles] 1081 01:10:22,343 --> 01:10:26,723 …and people handing their babies off to each other as they walked on stage. 1082 01:10:27,306 --> 01:10:28,558 Lots of breastfeeding going on 1083 01:10:28,641 --> 01:10:31,352 and people bringing their mothers to the tour. 1084 01:10:33,146 --> 01:10:37,275 [Colvin] Lilith Fair was the place to perform if you were nine months pregnant. 1085 01:10:37,984 --> 01:10:40,737 I felt like it was perfect. 1086 01:10:42,238 --> 01:10:45,908 [McLachlan] Erykah brought a baby to the tour. 1087 01:10:45,992 --> 01:10:49,328 [♪ "What's Going On" plays] 1088 01:11:02,383 --> 01:11:04,177 [Badu] I was a new mom. 1089 01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:09,098 I was going through, uh, the changes that we go through as women. 1090 01:11:09,974 --> 01:11:13,770 And they really catered to my feminine emotions 1091 01:11:13,853 --> 01:11:17,064 and sensibilities and needs. 1092 01:11:17,148 --> 01:11:19,859 [♪ Song continues] 1093 01:11:34,207 --> 01:11:39,670 [Merchant] What I value was the tangibility that I saw of mothering 1094 01:11:40,254 --> 01:11:43,341 and being an artist coexisting. 1095 01:11:50,139 --> 01:11:53,768 And then having Bonnie Raitt scream in my ear, 1096 01:11:53,851 --> 01:11:56,521 "I've waited my whole life for this." You know? 1097 01:11:58,272 --> 01:12:01,275 Is this the camera I look into when I cry? [laughs] 1098 01:12:02,443 --> 01:12:04,445 [♪ "What's Going On" continues] 1099 01:12:21,796 --> 01:12:23,923 The vibe was different. It was less competitive 1100 01:12:24,006 --> 01:12:25,424 and a little bit more considerate. 1101 01:12:25,508 --> 01:12:28,344 There was just less macho posturing. 1102 01:12:28,427 --> 01:12:32,557 It was just revolutionary and new to me, because it just hadn't happened before. 1103 01:12:34,976 --> 01:12:37,186 [♪ "If It Makes You Happy" plays] 1104 01:12:41,232 --> 01:12:44,151 [Raitt] The feeling of camaraderie was palpable. 1105 01:12:44,235 --> 01:12:46,028 There was geographic coming together, 1106 01:12:46,112 --> 01:12:49,657 generational coming together and musical coming together 1107 01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:52,827 in a way that we wouldn't have intersected probably before. 1108 01:12:52,910 --> 01:12:54,912 [♪ Song continues] 1109 01:13:00,459 --> 01:13:05,172 For me to share the stage with Bonnie Raitt, who, when I was 17, 1110 01:13:05,256 --> 01:13:08,843 she was the first woman I'd ever seen front a band holding a guitar. 1111 01:13:08,926 --> 01:13:11,888 And she actually inspired me to do what I'm doing. 1112 01:13:11,971 --> 01:13:15,391 [♪ "If It Makes You Happy" continues] 1113 01:13:36,495 --> 01:13:40,291 [Badu] She has so much experience and she was so comfortable. 1114 01:13:40,374 --> 01:13:43,878 She waved a lot of that around like a wand, 1115 01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:46,881 and we all were infected by it. 1116 01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:52,678 - Bonnie Raitt! - [audience cheers] 1117 01:13:53,304 --> 01:13:56,432 [McLachlan] We had such a range of talent, from icons like Bonnie 1118 01:13:56,515 --> 01:13:59,515 to artists who were just starting their careers, being discovered at Lilith. 1119 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,230 So you have… Basically the B stage is right over home plate. 1120 01:14:04,106 --> 01:14:07,818 We can do all kinds of different things that happen to help promote artists. 1121 01:14:07,902 --> 01:14:10,988 'Cause the thing with Lilith is we gotta be able to break new talent. 1122 01:14:11,072 --> 01:14:14,075 [♪ "It's All About Me" plays] 1123 01:14:21,374 --> 01:14:24,752 - You're really young too, right? - Yeah. I'm 19 years old. 1124 01:14:24,835 --> 01:14:29,173 This is a great opportunity that I'm not gonna get, you know, all the time. 1125 01:14:30,174 --> 01:14:34,679 And also you have new artists that aren't exactly heard of yet 1126 01:14:34,762 --> 01:14:35,888 and are being discovered. 1127 01:14:35,972 --> 01:14:40,726 - [cheering] - [♪ "At Last" plays] 1128 01:14:48,901 --> 01:14:52,154 We had Christina on a ten-by-ten deck 1129 01:14:52,238 --> 01:14:54,949 in the middle of the field, next to the bathrooms. 1130 01:14:55,032 --> 01:14:56,784 And suddenly, this girl starts to sing, 1131 01:14:56,867 --> 01:14:58,995 and the radio's going wild and people are like, 1132 01:14:59,078 --> 01:15:00,955 "You gotta get out here and see this girl." 1133 01:15:01,038 --> 01:15:02,999 And that happened all the time. 1134 01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:06,377 [♪ "Here With Me" plays] 1135 01:15:12,883 --> 01:15:15,177 [♪ "Brown Skin" plays] 1136 01:15:21,142 --> 01:15:23,978 [♪ "Hey, Man!" plays] 1137 01:15:34,572 --> 01:15:36,615 [Fraser] We didn't just have B stages. 1138 01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:39,118 We were one of the first people to set up a village, 1139 01:15:39,201 --> 01:15:40,661 which nobody was doing. 1140 01:15:41,454 --> 01:15:45,041 So, we've got over 40 tents to get set up here every day. 1141 01:15:45,124 --> 01:15:47,793 If somebody's on the Village Stage and it's a brand-new artist 1142 01:15:47,877 --> 01:15:50,337 and they perform in front of 2,000 people, 1143 01:15:50,421 --> 01:15:52,840 they can walk over here and sign their new CD 1144 01:15:52,923 --> 01:15:55,217 and they'll generate sales for them. 1145 01:15:55,301 --> 01:15:58,429 Sarah and all of us wanted the sponsors to be inclusive 1146 01:15:58,512 --> 01:16:00,097 and to be part of what's going on. 1147 01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:05,186 Of course, Lilith Fair was very much pro-choice. 1148 01:16:05,269 --> 01:16:06,645 And that's what we did. 1149 01:16:06,729 --> 01:16:08,981 But we took it on the chin in so many places. 1150 01:16:10,024 --> 01:16:12,777 [Diamond] We were like a gentle threat for some people. 1151 01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:15,529 - Yay, Planned Parenthood. - [cheers] 1152 01:16:15,613 --> 01:16:17,281 Like, the presence of Planned Parenthood 1153 01:16:17,364 --> 01:16:19,033 really flipped people out. 1154 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:27,792 We were in Texas, and a venue decided that they wanted to exclude 1155 01:16:27,875 --> 01:16:31,295 the local Planned Parenthood affiliate from the event. 1156 01:16:31,378 --> 01:16:33,798 I have a long history working with Planned Parenthood 1157 01:16:33,881 --> 01:16:38,094 and being a volunteer for them, so it just incensed me. 1158 01:16:53,109 --> 01:16:55,194 [McLachlan] Joan talking about the pro-choice thing 1159 01:16:55,277 --> 01:16:56,862 when she was like, "Fuck that." 1160 01:16:56,946 --> 01:17:03,160 I was super proud of her for doing it, but I was also fighting my good girl, 1161 01:17:03,244 --> 01:17:06,539 "don't rock the boat" thing that I was brought up with 1162 01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:08,903 and that was hammered into me since the moment I was born. 1163 01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:11,919 I mean, I think it's asinine that you have to have this argument 1164 01:17:12,002 --> 01:17:13,963 about handing out condoms. 1165 01:17:14,046 --> 01:17:18,634 It's pretty silly. But again, free speech. Everybody has their own views. 1166 01:17:18,717 --> 01:17:22,972 Yeah. I really wanna support them and have it out in the village, 1167 01:17:23,055 --> 01:17:26,809 but… [stammers] …I just never know what to say. 1168 01:17:26,892 --> 01:17:29,520 But you think about it and see what you want to do. 1169 01:17:29,603 --> 01:17:30,604 All right. 1170 01:17:31,272 --> 01:17:32,815 [Osborne] The decision was made 1171 01:17:32,898 --> 01:17:35,818 that Planned Parenthood would be allowed in 1172 01:17:35,901 --> 01:17:39,280 but that artists were not allowed to talk about them. 1173 01:17:39,363 --> 01:17:41,365 That was the compromise that was made. 1174 01:17:41,448 --> 01:17:43,284 I didn't make that compromise. 1175 01:17:44,076 --> 01:17:45,744 So, I put my whole band 1176 01:17:45,828 --> 01:17:49,206 in the "I am the face of pro-choice Texas" t-shirts. 1177 01:17:50,416 --> 01:17:53,961 "We want to thank Planned Parenthood for being here." 1178 01:17:58,591 --> 01:18:01,427 [McLachlan] I had never made a stand for anything in my life 1179 01:18:01,510 --> 01:18:03,971 in that kind of powerful of a way. 1180 01:18:04,054 --> 01:18:06,974 So, I was enthralled and envious 1181 01:18:07,057 --> 01:18:10,936 of her strength and "fuck you" -ness. 1182 01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,607 A national group called Feminists for Life are angered at Lilith Fair 1183 01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:17,610 because they believe that the refusal of getting a booth 1184 01:18:17,693 --> 01:18:21,572 at the Lilith Fair village 'cause they take a pro-life stance is hypocritical 1185 01:18:21,655 --> 01:18:26,243 against the inclusive pro-women attitude they feel Lilith Fair should invoke. 1186 01:18:26,327 --> 01:18:27,967 So I wanted to get your comments on that. 1187 01:18:28,037 --> 01:18:31,540 Well, this is my festival, so I can do what I want. [Chuckles] 1188 01:18:31,624 --> 01:18:34,335 It was sort of the first time I kind of stood up and said that. 1189 01:18:34,418 --> 01:18:36,670 And I was terrified to say that because I'm like, 1190 01:18:36,754 --> 01:18:39,882 "This goes against everything that I know how to do. 1191 01:18:39,965 --> 01:18:41,133 Just keep your mouth shut." 1192 01:18:41,217 --> 01:18:43,594 You know, we, as the organizers, 1193 01:18:43,677 --> 01:18:48,140 get to pick and choose the people who come and table. 1194 01:18:49,516 --> 01:18:51,810 [Davis] Dealing with protestors was a daily occurrence. 1195 01:18:53,103 --> 01:18:55,564 We would get folks that would try to block… [stammers] 1196 01:18:55,648 --> 01:18:57,650 …the audience entrance at the parking lots. 1197 01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:00,152 They would try to bullhorn and shout people out 1198 01:19:00,236 --> 01:19:01,237 at the ticketed entry. 1199 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,739 [chattering] 1200 01:19:05,866 --> 01:19:07,510 [Fraser] In Atlanta, we had a bomb threat. 1201 01:19:07,534 --> 01:19:11,664 People wanna blow us up because we're pro-choice. 1202 01:19:11,747 --> 01:19:15,417 I'd never seen that kind of self-righteous rage 1203 01:19:15,501 --> 01:19:18,379 and anger aimed at anything that I was part of. 1204 01:19:20,839 --> 01:19:24,426 [Fraser] You don't understand what it's like to have that responsibility 1205 01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:28,055 of having 20,000 people and somebody looking to blow you up. 1206 01:19:29,056 --> 01:19:30,808 [Oberthier] We got 18,000 people here. 1207 01:19:30,891 --> 01:19:34,311 If we tell them the truth, we're gonna have a panic on our hands. 1208 01:19:34,395 --> 01:19:39,358 We did have bomb threats as well as other call-in threats. 1209 01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:41,110 We would validate each of them. 1210 01:19:41,193 --> 01:19:44,571 We would seek input from public safety, both police and fire, 1211 01:19:44,655 --> 01:19:49,034 to check for vulnerabilities and breaches and unattended items, et cetera. 1212 01:19:49,118 --> 01:19:53,372 We don't wanna have any harassment. Any... We don't want anything. 1213 01:19:53,455 --> 01:19:56,583 We wanna make sure. We want to be proactive at all times. 1214 01:19:56,667 --> 01:20:00,129 The women who play here, for example, the Dixie Chicks, I wrote them a letter 1215 01:20:00,212 --> 01:20:04,633 and asked them to reconsider singing and to stand up for women's rights, 1216 01:20:04,717 --> 01:20:06,010 what they truly are. 1217 01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:08,280 That's why we came up with this shirt. 1218 01:20:08,304 --> 01:20:11,056 "Peace and justice begins in the womb, Sarah." 1219 01:20:11,765 --> 01:20:15,811 Jerry Falwell is going after the Lilith Fair Concert Tour. 1220 01:20:15,894 --> 01:20:18,731 Falwell's newspaper, The National Liberty Journal, 1221 01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:22,693 says the tour, which features women artists, is named for a demon. 1222 01:20:22,776 --> 01:20:26,155 For me, I just had to constantly remind myself of… 1223 01:20:27,448 --> 01:20:29,783 I can't be everything for everybody. 1224 01:20:29,867 --> 01:20:32,703 This festival can't be everything for everybody. 1225 01:20:34,121 --> 01:20:37,082 [McLachlan] I could feel that same strange feeling seeping in again. 1226 01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:40,919 That feeling of I've been on the road too long. 1227 01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:44,590 My very essence is starting to seep away from me. 1228 01:20:44,673 --> 01:20:46,925 Something out in the world is shifting. 1229 01:20:54,475 --> 01:20:56,518 [crew member] What are you doing? 1230 01:20:56,602 --> 01:21:00,898 Uh, just writing in my journal. Writing the day's exciting exploits. 1231 01:21:01,815 --> 01:21:03,359 "Sheryl went off to do Woodstock, 1232 01:21:03,442 --> 01:21:05,652 and we got to watch the debauchery on pay-per-view." 1233 01:21:05,736 --> 01:21:09,198 - [♪ Guitar plays heavy metal riff] - [cheering] 1234 01:21:20,959 --> 01:21:23,629 [Diamond] We had an understanding with Sheryl Crow 1235 01:21:23,712 --> 01:21:26,131 that Sheryl could go do Woodstock. 1236 01:21:28,717 --> 01:21:32,179 [Crow] If there's anything to be said for Woodstock carrying the tradition 1237 01:21:32,262 --> 01:21:35,307 of capturing the social consciousness, 1238 01:21:35,391 --> 01:21:40,187 then perhaps this Woodstock definitely stood to its name. 1239 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,026 You'd have to pay way more than you paid to get in to see my tits. 1240 01:21:47,945 --> 01:21:49,738 [Jewel] It was premeditated. 1241 01:21:49,822 --> 01:21:53,242 It was self-aware in really negative ways. 1242 01:21:53,325 --> 01:21:58,330 And it was just gasoline on the worst of the '90s male culture. 1243 01:22:04,545 --> 01:22:05,879 [cheering] 1244 01:22:05,963 --> 01:22:08,465 [Crow] What's going on right now in the social consciousness is 1245 01:22:08,549 --> 01:22:13,011 a lot of young white people who are angry. 1246 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:15,806 [yelling] 1247 01:22:16,932 --> 01:22:21,061 [Crow] It was not a matter of them being led down the path of destruction 1248 01:22:21,145 --> 01:22:23,772 by Limp Bizkit or Kid Rock. 1249 01:22:23,856 --> 01:22:26,650 They were... They were ready to rage. 1250 01:22:28,152 --> 01:22:31,089 [news anchor] New York State Police are reportedly investigating allegations 1251 01:22:31,113 --> 01:22:33,699 that four women were raped at last weekend's 1252 01:22:33,782 --> 01:22:35,576 Woodstock music festival. 1253 01:22:35,659 --> 01:22:38,203 As the three-day concert ended Sunday night, 1254 01:22:38,287 --> 01:22:42,374 bonfires blazed out of control and looters battled police. 1255 01:22:44,001 --> 01:22:45,478 [reporter] I just wanted to ask Sheryl, 1256 01:22:45,502 --> 01:22:48,338 do you have a new perspective on Lilith Fair now 1257 01:22:48,422 --> 01:22:51,383 coming off of what transpired at Woodstock? 1258 01:22:51,467 --> 01:22:55,095 The day I got back, I ran to Sarah's arms, 1259 01:22:55,179 --> 01:22:58,140 sobbed into the bosom of the founder of Lilith. 1260 01:23:00,017 --> 01:23:02,060 It really… I mean, that was so shocking for me. 1261 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,858 And I'm hoping it's not representing our future as a nation 1262 01:23:07,941 --> 01:23:09,568 or the youth of America. 1263 01:23:14,198 --> 01:23:16,283 [Diamond] Looking back, 1264 01:23:16,366 --> 01:23:20,621 the enormity of what we had created was pretty staggering. 1265 01:23:22,247 --> 01:23:25,125 We cannot underplay the importance of gathering. 1266 01:23:25,209 --> 01:23:27,127 Lilith did that really well. 1267 01:23:28,504 --> 01:23:30,339 [Donlon] The impact was widespread. 1268 01:23:30,422 --> 01:23:35,260 There's some fundamental changes in the way women see the idea 1269 01:23:35,344 --> 01:23:40,599 of possibility that was born at the Lilith Fair. 1270 01:23:42,476 --> 01:23:45,062 [Diamond] These women can sell fucking tickets. 1271 01:23:45,604 --> 01:23:47,272 And we proved that. 1272 01:23:49,483 --> 01:23:51,652 The power of music. 1273 01:23:51,735 --> 01:23:53,487 The power of women. 1274 01:23:54,571 --> 01:23:56,114 And the power of purpose. 1275 01:23:56,198 --> 01:23:58,534 [cheering] 1276 01:24:06,291 --> 01:24:08,418 [Diamond] But nothing lasts forever. 1277 01:24:12,798 --> 01:24:17,010 I won a contest for a radio station in Columbus to meet Sarah. 1278 01:24:17,094 --> 01:24:19,429 We had to send a videotape in of who her biggest fan was 1279 01:24:19,513 --> 01:24:20,931 and they picked it over the radio. 1280 01:24:21,014 --> 01:24:24,893 You have allowed radio stations now… We play female artists back-to-back. 1281 01:24:24,977 --> 01:24:26,937 That's never happened before until Lilith Fair. 1282 01:24:27,020 --> 01:24:30,857 - That's tangible and you did that. - That feels really good, let me tell you. 1283 01:24:34,945 --> 01:24:39,199 I love her, and I will always follow her. And I hope she doesn't stay gone too long. 1284 01:24:39,283 --> 01:24:40,563 I hope she comes back very soon. 1285 01:24:43,996 --> 01:24:46,748 [McLachlan] This will be the last entry in this book, 1286 01:24:46,832 --> 01:24:49,960 as it is officially the last day of Lilith Fair. 1287 01:24:50,043 --> 01:24:53,880 Today, the 31st of August in the year 1999. 1288 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,348 [Harris] I hope that Sarah is incredibly proud of what she's done 1289 01:25:03,432 --> 01:25:09,563 and realizing the reverberations of that probably affected not just the audiences 1290 01:25:09,646 --> 01:25:13,066 but the artists that she brought into the fold. 1291 01:25:15,193 --> 01:25:18,238 [Crow] The other thing that I took away from Lilith was that 1292 01:25:18,322 --> 01:25:19,573 we are businesswomen. 1293 01:25:19,656 --> 01:25:23,076 We are women who run our tours. 1294 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,204 We are women that make the creative decisions. 1295 01:25:26,288 --> 01:25:31,627 We are women that set the tone for how everyone gets treated on the road. 1296 01:25:31,710 --> 01:25:36,381 I thought, "Oh, man. This is so powerful that I'm gonna take this with me." 1297 01:25:38,133 --> 01:25:43,680 Lilith Fair inspired me to form our own "Lilith" in our community. 1298 01:25:43,764 --> 01:25:48,268 A tour called Sugar Water. It was totally necessary for us. 1299 01:25:50,896 --> 01:25:54,149 [Phair] It was absolutely because of Lilith Fair 1300 01:25:54,232 --> 01:25:58,987 that I had ambition to work in the music business again. 1301 01:26:00,572 --> 01:26:05,744 [McLachlan] It was a completely all-encompassing three years. 1302 01:26:08,330 --> 01:26:10,082 Let's leave ending on a high note. 1303 01:26:10,165 --> 01:26:12,125 Like, we were on top of the world at that point. 1304 01:26:15,671 --> 01:26:19,007 My kingdom is in ruins. [Laughs] 1305 01:26:19,091 --> 01:26:20,592 Pouring rain. 1306 01:26:24,054 --> 01:26:26,556 Oh, my God. We were… [chuckles] 1307 01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,642 We were all a mess on the last day. 1308 01:26:30,811 --> 01:26:34,356 I just... I don't quite know what to do next. [Sniffles] 1309 01:26:35,148 --> 01:26:37,484 Other than put stuff away. [Chuckles] 1310 01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:42,155 I think there was a sense of, "We did it." 1311 01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:47,577 We changed the world a little bit, as crazy as that sounds. 1312 01:26:47,661 --> 01:26:51,498 - There you are. How was your day home? - Camera. It was good. 1313 01:26:51,581 --> 01:26:52,833 How was yours? How you feeling? 1314 01:26:52,916 --> 01:26:55,127 I had talked to Sarah a few times, 1315 01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:57,963 and I remember her saying, "We've proved our point." 1316 01:26:58,839 --> 01:27:00,215 This can exist. 1317 01:27:00,298 --> 01:27:04,386 "Now it's time for women to go out and create their own small Liliths." 1318 01:27:05,971 --> 01:27:08,765 [McLachlan] What do I have to prove anymore? 1319 01:27:08,849 --> 01:27:10,726 I know I grew up with Lilith. 1320 01:27:11,518 --> 01:27:14,646 I came in incredibly green and naive. 1321 01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:19,484 This huge monumental shift from essentially being a child 1322 01:27:20,569 --> 01:27:26,241 to becoming a woman and becoming way clearer 1323 01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:30,454 in who I was and how I was gonna show up in the world and what I believed in. 1324 01:27:30,537 --> 01:27:32,777 - There you go. - [McLachlan] Excellent. Do you want me to… 1325 01:27:33,707 --> 01:27:37,878 Sarah wanted to start a family. Di and myself started our family. 1326 01:27:37,961 --> 01:27:40,088 So everybody wanted to take a breather. 1327 01:27:40,172 --> 01:27:43,842 In a few hours, you're gonna be playing your final Lilith Fair concert, 1328 01:27:44,676 --> 01:27:49,306 and I'm wondering if that has sunk in and are you having any second thoughts? 1329 01:27:49,389 --> 01:27:54,060 No, I'm-I'm happy that it's... that I'm going home tomorrow, 1330 01:27:54,144 --> 01:27:56,396 even though this has been an amazing ride. 1331 01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,273 I've loved every minute of it. 1332 01:27:58,356 --> 01:28:01,568 - [audience cheering] - [♪ "I Shall Be Released" plays] 1333 01:29:17,143 --> 01:29:18,353 Good night, y'all! 1334 01:29:44,838 --> 01:29:48,383 That's it. I'm done. No more shows. 1335 01:29:49,092 --> 01:29:52,470 A new life has begun. Love, Sarah. 1336 01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:03,690 I get asked at almost every single interview. 1337 01:30:03,773 --> 01:30:06,109 "Are you gonna bring Lilith back? We need Lilith." 1338 01:30:06,192 --> 01:30:09,988 And I'm like, "Yeah, we do. Or we need something like it." 1339 01:30:10,071 --> 01:30:11,823 But it would have to look really different, 1340 01:30:11,907 --> 01:30:16,786 because we did revisit Lilith in 2010. 1341 01:30:16,870 --> 01:30:19,331 And we didn't succeed. 1342 01:30:20,957 --> 01:30:24,419 A real cultural shift had happened. 1343 01:30:26,588 --> 01:30:29,716 That whole time that came after Lilith, 1344 01:30:29,799 --> 01:30:31,861 the general pop culture was moving away from singer-songwriters. 1345 01:30:31,885 --> 01:30:36,264 There were programmers saying, "Never again." 1346 01:30:37,766 --> 01:30:39,046 [Ray] There were these few years 1347 01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:40,786 where radio stations were playing Lilith Fair stuff 1348 01:30:40,810 --> 01:30:41,954 and the next few years were like, 1349 01:30:41,978 --> 01:30:43,789 "We don't play that artist. They were at Lilith Fair." 1350 01:30:43,813 --> 01:30:46,733 - It's, like, what? Like, really? - Too many women. 1351 01:30:47,484 --> 01:30:49,170 [McLachlan] The men in power in the music industry 1352 01:30:49,194 --> 01:30:51,029 wanted to keep things the way they were. 1353 01:30:52,405 --> 01:30:56,618 So, trying to climb out from underneath that was very challenging. 1354 01:30:57,786 --> 01:31:02,624 But progress, as we know, always finds a way. 1355 01:31:02,707 --> 01:31:04,918 [cheering] 1356 01:31:10,340 --> 01:31:12,592 I recently went to see Boygenius. 1357 01:31:18,473 --> 01:31:22,769 All of these young people singing at the top of their lungs, 1358 01:31:23,478 --> 01:31:25,271 that's what Lilith felt like, you know? 1359 01:31:40,620 --> 01:31:45,750 [Powers] What was condemned about Lilith in the '90s is now embraced widely 1360 01:31:45,834 --> 01:31:49,337 as this beautiful turn of the wheel… 1361 01:31:52,507 --> 01:31:55,343 Where women are at the center of our culture. 1362 01:31:59,097 --> 01:32:02,308 [Rodrigo] Women singer-songwriters in the '90s are probably 1363 01:32:02,392 --> 01:32:04,453 the biggest source of inspiration that I have in my career. 1364 01:32:04,477 --> 01:32:06,855 I'm constantly looking to them for inspiration. 1365 01:32:06,938 --> 01:32:08,398 They're sort of my Northern Stars. 1366 01:32:08,481 --> 01:32:11,526 [♪ "If It Makes You Happy" plays] 1367 01:32:17,866 --> 01:32:19,427 [Crow] You don't know who you're inspiring. 1368 01:32:19,451 --> 01:32:22,787 You don't know who's going to be witness to what you're doing and think, 1369 01:32:22,871 --> 01:32:25,123 "That's what I want to be. That's what I want to do." 1370 01:32:25,206 --> 01:32:26,624 Just like Bonnie was for me. 1371 01:32:42,807 --> 01:32:44,434 Hey! 1372 01:32:44,517 --> 01:32:46,436 [cheering] 1373 01:32:48,146 --> 01:32:51,274 What a joyful noise that is, y'all. 1374 01:32:53,818 --> 01:32:56,029 I first came here when I was ten years old. 1375 01:32:56,821 --> 01:33:02,452 But nothing really changed me until 1997, 1376 01:33:02,535 --> 01:33:06,372 when I was sitting way out there at the crest of that hill 1377 01:33:06,456 --> 01:33:09,709 and I witnessed for the first time Lilith Fair. 1378 01:33:13,046 --> 01:33:14,547 This is The Gorge. 1379 01:33:15,715 --> 01:33:18,468 This is Sarah McLachlan's house. 1380 01:33:19,761 --> 01:33:22,972 Please welcome Sarah McLachlan. 1381 01:33:33,858 --> 01:33:36,569 [♪ "Extraordinary" plays] 1382 01:33:47,497 --> 01:33:49,517 [Phair] The reason why people who weren't even there 1383 01:33:49,541 --> 01:33:51,251 feel connected to Lilith Fair is 1384 01:33:51,334 --> 01:33:56,256 because it really does embody the world we wish existed right now for us. 1385 01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:03,596 We get to celebrate the fact that we were kind of defying the odds every night. 1386 01:34:05,723 --> 01:34:08,059 [♪ Song continues] 1387 01:34:35,295 --> 01:34:37,547 [McLachlan] Do I think we still need a sisterhood? 1388 01:34:37,630 --> 01:34:39,108 Do I think we need to fix the broken systems 1389 01:34:39,132 --> 01:34:40,884 that have been created by men for men? 1390 01:34:40,967 --> 01:34:41,968 Hell yes. 1391 01:34:42,844 --> 01:34:44,220 If we want to change things, 1392 01:34:44,304 --> 01:34:48,266 we have to continue building these systems for us. 1393 01:34:53,813 --> 01:34:56,941 The encore was always the best part. 1394 01:34:58,318 --> 01:35:00,904 That's when we could totally exhale. 1395 01:35:00,987 --> 01:35:03,448 We had done it. 1396 01:35:03,531 --> 01:35:06,618 Every night, we had done it. 1397 01:35:07,702 --> 01:35:10,747 We had changed the frequency of the whole room. 1398 01:35:12,665 --> 01:35:16,586 It was just a village of very intelligent, 1399 01:35:17,462 --> 01:35:19,505 very powerful, 1400 01:35:19,589 --> 01:35:21,883 very creative, 1401 01:35:21,966 --> 01:35:23,843 very mission-orientated, 1402 01:35:23,927 --> 01:35:26,846 very strong women 1403 01:35:26,930 --> 01:35:30,350 on stage together putting a period 1404 01:35:31,726 --> 01:35:33,728 at the end of a sentence. 1405 01:35:39,067 --> 01:35:40,276 [song ends] 1406 01:35:53,581 --> 01:35:56,584 [♪ "One In a Long Line" plays] 121531

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