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There's beef.
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There's pork and ham.
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There's lamb.
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Meat and eggs help the body grow
and make it strong.
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Meat is good for you...
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It was just like...meat, meat, meat, meat
and meat and more meat.
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And man, they like meat!
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It was like nonstop.
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E. coli, salmonella,
people getting sick,
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and I'm sure some people
died from it.
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Eating processed meat
can cause cancer.
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We can assure
consumers that our beef is safe.
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Rats, foxes,
even minks
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are being fraudulently
sold as beef or mutton.
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Meat consumption is rising
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in many countries
despite warnings.
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This is the big elephant in the room
that nobody's talking about.
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It's very tasty.
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Livestock contributes more
to climate change than cars.
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1.8 million hectares of the Amazon
are cut down each year,
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75% attributed to
the expansion of cattle ranches.
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Perhaps oneof the most shocking things
about factory farms
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is that there's almost
no one watching them.
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Is this a sort of
a cultural war right now?
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Meat.
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For most of us, it was and is
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an integral part of the diet.
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But recently, meat has lost
its mythical status.
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Once a symbol of prosperity
and power,
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meat consumption
has become problematic,
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for the planet
and for ourselves.
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Eating a steak or a burger
is no longer a luxury,
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and we've gotten more
and more disconnected
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from where our meat
actually comes from.
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Meat-free diets are a growing
trend in Western countries.
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Although this is not a new idea,
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plant-based diets are becoming
increasingly popular in Germany.
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This made me wonder
what the world would look like
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were we no longer
eating animals.
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And so I set out to connect
with the pioneers
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of the vegan revolution
in Germany,
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met with researchers
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examining the effects
of a plant-based diet,
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traveled to the first
vegetarian city in the world,
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learned about the lives
of rescued farm animals,
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spoke with philosophers
and lawyers
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working to have
animals' interests considered,
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and talked to scientists
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developing meat-free
future foods.
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But first, I wanted to learn
more about the origins of meat
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and our treatment
of farmed animals.
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Well, first of all,
I was raised being taught
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that the domestication
of other animals
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was a great thing for humanity
and a great thing for animals.
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But then over time,I came to learn
that actually it was a lie,
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that other animals were
captured, they were enslaved,
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they were biologically
manipulated.
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I thought they were desecrated.
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In my work, I refer to that
practice as "domesecration."
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Once the domesecration
of other animals started,
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men got on their backs and
they began to go long distances,
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they began to use other horses
as instruments of warfare and violence,
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raiding more sedentary peoples
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and killing people,
enslaving them.
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So, for example,
when the Europeans
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invaded the Americas, they could
only conduct that invasion
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through the use of horses
as instruments of war
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and cows and pigs and sheep
as laborers and as rations,
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and they needed land
to grow more animals,
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to facilitate further invasion.
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So the oppression
of the other animals
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was deeply entangled
with the fates
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of the indigenous peoples,
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as the more land that they
needed for ranching,
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the more people were killed,
their land was taken.
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Once they cleared that land,
then they developed railroads
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and began to transport
these animals back to cities
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like Chicago and Cincinnati.
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Large slaughterhouses
begin to develop,
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then marketing firms
begin to develop,
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and feed firms begin to develop,
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and banks began to get
their share of this,
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and retail organizations
begin growing
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and then fast-food
organizations crop up.
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Then we see the formation
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of this animal
industrial complex.
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There's a great political power,
ideological power,
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and economic power,
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and they continue to drive
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increased consumption,
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all to garner profits
for those in the industry.
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So...
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domesecration has been horrific
for the world and other animals,
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and it's time that we begin to stop that
and changethe course of world history.
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This is me
at nine years old
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meeting a cow
for the first time.
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And this is me
about to eat a cow.
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Back then, I had no idea where
the meat on my plate came from,
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and I wonder now
why it took me so long
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to start questioning what,
or rather whom, I was eating.
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That's just the worst
part of my job.
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I got to come and go.
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I got to go in and photograph
and witness and experience
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the horror and the pain,
but I got to leave.
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And they don't get to leave.
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I can complain about, you know,
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the smell on my clothes
and the camera months later,
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but, like, they're in it
all the time, that's their life.
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That is the only thing that
they experience in life, this.
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This is where they live
and this is where they will die,
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except for when they get put on
a transportand go to slaughter.
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Unbelievable.
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But these things happen
behind walls
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in these dark, horrible,
stinky places,
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where no one's allowed to enter,
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where we get put in jail,
we get arrested,
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we get charged
if we enter these places.
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There's a reason for that.
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It's to protect the business
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because the business
would fail if we knew.
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My way of effecting change,
as well, is storytelling.
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People remember emotions
and stories
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more often than they
remember statistics,
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and so I tell stories about the individuals
I've met around the world.
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Bears rescued
from bear bile farms,
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pigs rescued from factory farms.
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Show the photos of
Julia the pig, Sonny the calf,
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and Miracle the bear.
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You could hear a pin drop
when I'm doing these talks,
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and they're leaning forward
in their chairs
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and they're engaged and it's
because it's storytelling.
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And then they go off
and they share these stories.
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Um, so things are getting worse
in some places,
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but they're getting better
in a lot of places as well.
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We're seeing meat-eating
growing in certain countries,
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but we're seeing it decline
in other countries.
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We're seeing laws changing,
very much so in Europe.
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Better welfare laws
and all sorts of "improvements,"
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but then enforcement
is a problem.
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I've been to plenty of farms
where the laws have changed
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two, three years ago,
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and the farmers haven't
implemented anything
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because the fine
is less expensive
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than having to reformat
their entire farm.
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So I went undercover
in an industrialized slaughterhouse
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because I was interested
in understanding
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how massive processes
of violence work
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in what we call
modern civilized society.
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Slaughterhouses,
for the most part,
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are located
far out of urban areas.
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They're located in rural areas where
the vast majority of urban consumers
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will never have to confront
what takes place inside of them.
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They're also hidden socially.
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We delegate the work of killing
to a group of people
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who have very little rights.
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We also hide them
linguistically, right?
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Steers become steaks
and heifers become hamburgers.
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We hide places of violence.
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We hide places of ugliness,
so that we can continue to live
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as if they didn't exist,
while still relying
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on their products
in our everyday lives.
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Two months into my fieldwork,
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six cattle escaped
from a slaughterhouse
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up the street from the one
that I was working in.
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Three of them made
an immediate run
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for the parking lot
of Saint Francis of Assisi Catholic Church.
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These cows were captured
and taken back to the slaughterhouse,
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but one of the cows made a run down
the main boulevard in Omaha
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and then took a turn
into an alleyway.
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The escape took place
during the afternoon break
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for the slaughterhouse
that I was working in,
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and me and some of
the other slaughterhouse workers
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watched as
the Omaha Police Department
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pursued this cow
into an alleyway
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that ended in a chain-link fence
bordering our slaughterhouse.
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And when the police failed
to herd her into a trailer,
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they opened fire on her
with shotguns and killed her.
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And the next day,
the newspaper in Omaha
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featured this escape
and killing on its front page,
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under the headline, "Freedom is
fleeting for cattle in plant escape."
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And in the lunchroom
at the slaughterhouse,
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the workers expressed a sense
of disgust and outrage
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at the killing
of this one animal.
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"They shot her just like
they shot an unarmed man
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from Mexico last year,"
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Julio, one of the quality
control workers said.
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And then the lunch period ended,
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and we all went back
to our places on the kill floor
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where we proceeded to kill
another 1,250 animals
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for the remainder of the day.
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Social media has radically changed
the distribution of information.
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Images and videos highlighting
the plight of farm animals
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are now reaching
a global audience
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that is increasingly seeking
transparency and knowledge
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surrounding the sourcing
of their food.
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A video by Toronto Pig Save activist
Anita Krajnc made headlines worldwide
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when she was charged for giving
water to thirsty pigs
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on a hot day outside
a Toronto slaughterhouse.
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Toronto Pig Save and the sister groups
are about bearing witness.
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And that is the idea that when
there is injustice in your community,
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you need to be present
and be there and try to help.
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And so, for animals,
the darkest place is a slaughterhouse.
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So Toronto Pig Save holds vigils
outside slaughterhouses.
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Here comes the truck!
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I know, babies!
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I love you.
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I think a lot of people
felt hopeless before, saying,
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"Oh, it's never going to change.
People are not going to stop eating meat."
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And then they see these people doing vigils
saying, "This is wrong, stop this."
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They find that very empowering
and encouraging.
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I think if more and more people
bear witness firsthand,
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it will change them,
and they would not participate
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in violence against these animals
if they saw the animals firsthand.
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I have no doubt about it.
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While in Toronto,
I came across someone else
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who was changing hearts
and minds
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and had a huge following
on social media.
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Her name is
Esther the Wonder Pig.
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One for you.
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The story behind
Esther is interesting.
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She was a very unplanned
and last-minute addition to our family.
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We were duped, you know.
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We were under the impression
that she was a mini pig.
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And, you know, man,
there's nothing mini about her.
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We'd fallen in love
in a pretty crazy way.
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The thought of getting rid
of her was terrifying.
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It was really, really upsetting.
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I mean, we both knew
in the back of our minds
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that we were gonna be
on one hell of a bumpy road.
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We didn't know it was gonna
be a 500-pound road.
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Yeah, I mean,
but we love all of her.
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You know, she can put on
500 more pounds
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and she's still welcome
to do as she please.
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You know, she's part
of the family,
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and it's not her fault
she got that big.
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We created the Facebook page
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and it was just
fun-loving photos of Esther,
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and then we threw it out
to our family and friends,
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and within a day there was
a hundred likes,
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and we were just like,
whoa, like a hundred.
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The next day it was 300
and the next day it was 500,
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1,000, 2,000, 8,000,
it just started going like clockwork.
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And it was at 8,000...
8,000 likes.
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We woke up
and our phones were maxed out.
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Somebody in Hong Kong
had sent us a text.
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She said, "You guys are in
Hong Kong's biggest newspaper."
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It was that moment
that I was like,
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"Wow, like, what is going on?"
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You have this lightbulb moment.
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We had a lightbulb moment when
we were cooking bacon on the stove,
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and Esther's five pounds
at our feet,
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waiting for something
to fall off the stove,
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and I was like, "Oh, my gosh,"
it just happened.
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- It was like this bulb.
- Can't do this.
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Like, it just,
it was a crazy moment,
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and, um...
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we never ate meat
after that point.
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It's all her.
It's all her.
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She's got this amazing ability
to get into your head.
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That's what's happening
all over,
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you know, all around us,
globally.
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It's all over the world.
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We hear from people
all over the world.
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Yeah, one of the most amazing
signs of her intelligence
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was, usually, she'd go
into the kitchen
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and she would open a door,
try to pull food out,
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and just cause chaos, so
she got in trouble every time, obviously.
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And a few weeks in,
you'd walk into the kitchen,
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you'd find a cupboard door open
and nothing wrong.
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What the hell is that? And
you'd find a basket out on the floor,
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and, what is going on, you know?
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And we finally figured out
one day that it was her going in.
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She'd open the cupboard
and then she'd leave the room
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and leave it alone for a minute,
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and then she'd go back
again a second later
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and she'd pull out
whatever food she wanted,
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but she'd leave it on the floor,
and then she'd leave again.
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Then the third time in,
she would go into the kitchen,
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grab the food and then run
out of the kitchen,
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down the hallway to the bedroom
with whatever it was she stole.
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Uh, and, I mean,
in our minds it was her
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breaking it down into individual steps
and an individual process,
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increasing her chances
of success, right?
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She was quiet.
She'd come back in and...
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Check us out. Just to like,
"Oh, it's normal, everything's fine."
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Give you a false sense
of security,
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and then go back in
and just chaos ensues.
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As hard as it was,
it's been the most rewarding
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and, you know,
amazing experience
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I think we've ever had
and probably ever will have.
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Who gets to live
with a pig like that
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and have those experiences?
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I mean, it was incredible,
it was incredible.
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Over human history,
meat became
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this food for sharing
and for celebrations.
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This is why during festivities,
usually in most cultures,
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you have meat at the center,
as a centerpiece.
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You have the Thanksgiving turkey
for example, in the United States.
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Meat was always
important in that way.
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It became so ingrained
in our traditions
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in this kind of feeling
of commonality,
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of sharing with other people, that it's
hard to let it go as well for that reason,
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because if you say no
to the Thanksgiving turkey,
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it's also saying, in a way, no to your traditions,
to your family, to your friends.
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Definitely cultures
change slowly.
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You see the meat industry
is putting a lot of marketing
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and advertising and so on
to keep up all this kind of symbolism
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that meat has, it lives on,
especially, for example, for masculinity.
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The land
of bratwurst and schnitzel
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is renowned for its
heavy reliance on meat.
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Germans eat
an estimated 60 kilograms,
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or roughly 132 pounds,
of meat each, every year.
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But scandals such as
mad cow disease
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and wrongfully labeled
horse meat
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have led to a loss of confidence
in the industry.
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Climate change, as well
as the recurring images
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of animal mistreatment
in factory farms
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led to a public debate
about the animals on our plate,
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and suddenly plant-based diets
were a newly found interest.
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Presented to
a health-conscious audience,
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vegan cookbooks that promised weight loss
and wellness benefits
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were popping up
on best-seller lists,
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attracting attention from
mainstream media and beyond.
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Plants are no longer a side dish
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but the creative
and healthy main course.
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Numerous vegan restaurants have
cropped up all over the country
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and many more
have added vegan options.
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Supermarkets are stocking
vegan products
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and the number
of vegan cookbooks
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has grown exponentially,
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from only 23 in 2012
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to 220 in 2016.
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With the highest number
of vegan restaurants
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and spearheaded by the world's first
100% vegan supermarket chain,
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Berlin has become
the vegan capital of Europe.
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Mmm!
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I wondered how
the vegan explosion in Germany
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had impacted the largest producer of tofu
and meat alternatives in Europe:
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Tofutown, formerly called Viana.
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"The sausage is
the cigarette of the future."
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This quote by the CEO
of Rugenwalder Muhle,
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a traditional sausage producer
in Germany,
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caused a stir
in the world of meat.
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At the IFFA, the number one international
trade fair for the meat industry,
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I was hoping to find out if this was indeed
where this sector was heading.
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We live during a time
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where our impact on the planet
has become so destructive
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that, akin to other
natural forces,
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humanity has become a global
geophysical force in itself.
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Scientists call this period
the Anthropocene,
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the age of humans.
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During our relatively
short time on Earth,
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we have made a mark
on our climate, our land,
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our air and our oceans.
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It's a mark we continue
making every day
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and which will be felt
for generations to come.
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Each year we breed,
raise and kill
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56 billion farmed animals.
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This system is responsible
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for 18% of greenhouse
gas emissions,
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uses a third of all fresh water,
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occupies 45%
of the Earth's total land,
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has destroyed 70%
of the Amazon rain forest,
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and has become the greatest
threat to biodiversity.
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And while 11% of the world's population
suffers from malnutrition,
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we feed half
of the world's grain
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to animals slated for slaughter.
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So what would happen if meat
disappeared from the planet?
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How could the end of meat
affect the planet, the animals,
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and our own lives?
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The global population
is projected
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to grow to nearly
10 billion people by 2050.
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As nations urbanize
and citizens become wealthier,
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they consume more
resource-intensive foods,
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such as meat and dairy,
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intensifying the already
enormous burden
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on our ecosystems,
the animals, our health,
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and perhaps especially
the climate.
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The most common indicator
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for humans' massive impact
on the environment
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is the increase
in greenhouse gas emissions.
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In London, I wanted to learn
more about the relationship
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between meat and our climate.
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Here at Chatham House we've been working
on meat consumption
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and climate change and the interaction
between the two
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for about two years now.
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We recognize that
the livestock sector
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is a major driver of climate change but one
that's often overlooked.
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So we wanted to try and explore
why that's the case
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and what could be done
to try and address this awareness gap
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in what we're calling
the cycle of inertia,
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by which governments aren't
taking action on a really critical issue.
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We found in our survey
of 12 countries
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that 83% of participants,
respondents,
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recognize that human activity
is a major driver of climate change,
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but only 30% recognize
the livestock sector as a key driver.
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That's really striking
because we know
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that the livestock sector contributes 15%
of greenhouse gas emissions,
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which is roughly equivalent
to every vehicle on the planet,
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so we're talking
about a major source here
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of which people aren't aware.
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We don't learn about the climate impact
of food production at schools,
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we don't see it on a day-to-day basis
in the mainstream media.
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Without tackling global
overconsumption of meat,
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we will inevitably see
dangerous levels of climate change,
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that we'll face
more frequent supply shocks,
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so a situation
in which crops fail
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and we have less food supply
than we might otherwise expect.
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In early 2016,
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a team of researchers
from the University of Oxford
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released a study about the climate
and health benefits of various diets.
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The worldwide media response
was enormous.
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This was the first global study
that estimated what would happen
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if we stopped eating meat
and animal products altogether.
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Previous studies
have mostly looked
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at the environmental benefits
of dietary change.
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We modeled
three dietary scenarios,
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diets that conformed
to global dietary guidelines.
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On top of this, we implemented
two vegetarian scenarios,
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one which is a normal
lacto-ovo vegetarian scenario
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and one vegan scenario,
which doesn't include any animal products.
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Continuing our diets
from now to 2050
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would mean a huge increase
in greenhouse gas emissions.
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We project that greenhouse gas
emissions would be increased
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by about 50%.
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If people change
from their expected diets
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to global dietary guidelines,
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then greenhouse gas emissions
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could be reduced
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by about a third.
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If people went
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to a vegetarian diet,
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that would increase
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to about two-thirds,
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and then if people even went
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to a vegan diet,
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that would result in reductions
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in greenhouse gas emissions
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of about 70%,
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so more than two-thirds.
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So the headline results
of our study
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were that a move
to more plant-based diets
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could reduce
greenhouse gas emissions
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of up to two-thirds
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and result in reduced
climate damages
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and reduced expenditure
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for healthcare-related
services of $1.5 trillion.
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So, this is gonna pass
right through your digestive tract...
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If a physician is
practicing medicine in the West,
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in developed nations,
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the vast majority of patients
that we are seeing
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and the litany of diseases
they bring in
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are the result
of them running a high fat,
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high animal protein,
high sugar food stream
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through their bloodstream
and their tissues,
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hour after hour, day after day.
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We used to think that food
just brings in calories
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for energy and proteins
for structural building uses,
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but we now know that food
brings in information.
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It turns genes on
and turns genes off,
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genes that stabilize
your tissues,
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that suppress cancer growth,
that suppress inflammation,
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and that's what
whole plant foods do,
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as opposed to animal-based foods
that stimulate growth hormones
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and processes that promote
cancer growth,
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that are oxidizing agents
that damage our tissues.
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Oh, I have thought about the day
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when all Americans, all people around
the world, are eating a plant-based diet.
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A vast number of ill people
in our country
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would dwindle down rapidly.
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The trillions of dollars that we spend
on just treating their symptoms,
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the surgeries not done
and stents not placed
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and scans not ordered,
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the economics actually should drive
this change in awareness as well.
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So there's a lot of positive
forces converging.
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I'm just hoping
we have enough time
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for this widespread
knowledge to sink in
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and be acted upon
by enough people.
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The findings of our study with regards
to health are that,
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if people change their diets
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to diets that would be in line
with global dietary guidelines,
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then about five million lives
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could be saved.
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If people went
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to vegetarian diets,
491
00:36:39,041 --> 00:36:40,250
that would increase
492
00:36:40,291 --> 00:36:41,625
to seven million lives saved,
493
00:36:41,666 --> 00:36:43,041
and if they went to vegan diets,
494
00:36:43,083 --> 00:36:44,291
that would increase
495
00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:46,833
to eight million lives saved.
496
00:36:46,875 --> 00:36:51,208
So almost any major, um...
region and country
497
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:54,375
could expect large savings
due to dietary change.
498
00:36:57,041 --> 00:37:00,791
We indeed believe that governments
have a major role to play
499
00:37:00,833 --> 00:37:03,958
by shaping the food environment
that we are all in,
500
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,083
for example, by mandating
food labeling,
501
00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:12,333
taxing, for example, foods in regards
to their greenhouse gas emissions,
502
00:37:12,375 --> 00:37:14,708
which would encourage
the consumption
503
00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:17,208
of environmentally
more sustainable foods
504
00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:21,541
and reduce the consumption
of highly greenhouse gas emitting foods,
505
00:37:21,583 --> 00:37:23,791
such as animal products.
506
00:37:25,875 --> 00:37:28,000
While I was researching
507
00:37:28,041 --> 00:37:30,750
the effects of meat consumption
on biodiversity,
508
00:37:30,791 --> 00:37:33,916
I came across a quote
that stuck with me.
509
00:37:33,958 --> 00:37:37,666
"You eat a steak, you kill
a lemur in Madagascar.
510
00:37:37,708 --> 00:37:40,625
You eat a chicken, you kill
an Amazonian parrot."
511
00:37:40,666 --> 00:37:42,916
It was a comment made
by a researcher
512
00:37:42,958 --> 00:37:45,583
on a study about
the destruction of habitat
513
00:37:45,625 --> 00:37:47,916
for animal pasture
and feed crops.
514
00:37:47,958 --> 00:37:51,958
I met with the author of
the paper in Miami, Florida.
515
00:37:53,541 --> 00:37:55,916
Currently,
there is a mass extinction,
516
00:37:55,958 --> 00:37:59,250
that's called
the sixth mass extinction.
517
00:37:59,291 --> 00:38:03,833
If you look at natural background rates
of extinction occurring in the world,
518
00:38:03,875 --> 00:38:06,500
that's been going on
for millions of years,
519
00:38:06,541 --> 00:38:11,041
we're at an accelerated rate,
about a thousand times
520
00:38:11,083 --> 00:38:13,500
what natural
background rates are.
521
00:38:17,541 --> 00:38:20,750
Biodiversity,
it's the fabric of life.
522
00:38:20,791 --> 00:38:24,041
It's the enormous assemblage
of animals and plants
523
00:38:24,083 --> 00:38:28,708
that exist on this planet that
we barely understand right now.
524
00:38:28,750 --> 00:38:32,125
Tropical countries are blanketed
in this biodiversity.
525
00:38:32,166 --> 00:38:35,000
It's very important for us
to protect that,
526
00:38:35,041 --> 00:38:38,333
not only because of what
we know about it right now
527
00:38:38,375 --> 00:38:40,958
but because of what
we don't know about it.
528
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
We need to keep that around
for future generations
529
00:38:43,041 --> 00:38:45,375
for them to discover
and understand
530
00:38:45,416 --> 00:38:48,833
and develop products
for human beings
that are beneficial
531
00:38:48,875 --> 00:38:54,416
but also just for the right
of life to exist and flourish
and evolve in the future.
532
00:38:54,458 --> 00:38:59,250
The strongest force driving
extinction around the world
is animal product consumption
533
00:38:59,291 --> 00:39:01,541
because it is responsible
for the destruction
534
00:39:01,583 --> 00:39:03,541
of more habitats
around the world
535
00:39:03,583 --> 00:39:05,333
than any other human activity.
536
00:39:07,458 --> 00:39:11,833
If we look at the Amazon,
which is the largest
tropical forest in the world,
537
00:39:11,875 --> 00:39:14,458
it's the heart of biodiversity.
538
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:19,125
Over 75% of all the deforested
land in the Amazon
539
00:39:19,166 --> 00:39:22,250
has been cut to produce
livestock,
540
00:39:22,291 --> 00:39:27,583
either to directly put cattle
on pasture that is grown there
instead of the forest,
541
00:39:27,625 --> 00:39:31,458
or to plant soy or corn
which is fed to livestock
542
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:35,708
and nowadays shipped
all around the world to feed
livestock in other countries.
543
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:39,583
So the destruction of the Amazon
has been driven
544
00:39:39,625 --> 00:39:42,875
by animal product
consumption, period.
545
00:39:42,916 --> 00:39:46,083
If everyone on the planet
went vegan,
546
00:39:46,125 --> 00:39:50,333
that would free up an enormous amount
of land to be used for other resources.
547
00:39:50,375 --> 00:39:53,958
So one thing that could be done
is restoring habitats
548
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,333
to traditional natural ecosystems,
connecting them together,
549
00:39:57,375 --> 00:40:01,125
creating corridors between
endangered habitats.
550
00:40:01,166 --> 00:40:05,416
At the same time, it could allow
the development of biofuels
551
00:40:05,458 --> 00:40:08,000
on properties as well
552
00:40:08,041 --> 00:40:12,208
so that we could become more
of a carbon neutral society.
553
00:40:12,250 --> 00:40:14,125
There's a lot of innovation
that could occur
554
00:40:14,166 --> 00:40:17,000
on those properties
if we pull meat consumption
555
00:40:17,041 --> 00:40:20,166
and meat production
off of those lands.
556
00:40:23,416 --> 00:40:26,958
A diet rich in meat
would require a 50% increase
557
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,125
in global cropland area by 2050.
558
00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:34,416
If the world went vegan in 2050,
we would require less cropland
559
00:40:34,458 --> 00:40:37,208
than we did in the year 2000.
560
00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:40,125
This would allow us
to reforest an area
561
00:40:40,166 --> 00:40:43,666
around the size of
the entire Amazon rain forest.
562
00:40:43,708 --> 00:40:47,458
Pastures cover a quarter
of our global land mass.
563
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:51,083
Bill Ripple, an ecologist
from the University of Oregon,
564
00:40:51,125 --> 00:40:54,208
is researching
what happens to pastures
565
00:40:54,250 --> 00:40:57,375
when animals no longer graze.
566
00:40:57,416 --> 00:41:00,166
At the Hart Mountain
National Wildlife Refuge,
567
00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:05,041
the managers removed
all the cattle in 1990.
568
00:41:05,083 --> 00:41:11,375
We found a decrease of 90%
in the amount of bare soil.
569
00:41:11,416 --> 00:41:14,541
We found an increase in willow.
570
00:41:14,583 --> 00:41:19,791
That increase is 388%,
so that's significant
571
00:41:19,833 --> 00:41:24,041
because willow is an important
biodiversity indicator
572
00:41:24,083 --> 00:41:26,291
for these streamside areas,
573
00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:30,916
because many species
of plants and animals
574
00:41:30,958 --> 00:41:33,375
are correlated
with the abundance
575
00:41:33,416 --> 00:41:35,875
of willow and aspen.
576
00:41:39,250 --> 00:41:44,958
This is about a 70-centimeter
diameter aspen tree,
577
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,375
originated in the 1800s,
578
00:41:47,416 --> 00:41:50,166
before livestock arrived
on Hart Mountain.
579
00:41:50,208 --> 00:41:53,541
I think the importance
of Hart Mountain here
580
00:41:53,583 --> 00:41:57,125
is because it's a rare case
where we've documented
581
00:41:57,166 --> 00:42:01,291
what happens when cattle
are removed from a landscape,
582
00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:05,125
what happens when cattle are
removed from streamside areas.
583
00:42:05,166 --> 00:42:08,125
Today, animal agriculture
uses a big percentage
584
00:42:08,166 --> 00:42:11,250
of the land surface,
585
00:42:11,291 --> 00:42:15,125
and if that could be converted
to more natural uses,
586
00:42:15,166 --> 00:42:19,125
I think biodiversity would
increase in those cases
587
00:42:19,166 --> 00:42:23,416
where there's less grazing,
less feed crop production.
588
00:42:25,333 --> 00:42:28,500
♪
589
00:42:53,125 --> 00:42:55,000
One of the countries
590
00:42:55,041 --> 00:42:58,125
that featured frequently
in my research was India.
591
00:42:58,166 --> 00:43:00,250
In a few years, it will be
592
00:43:00,291 --> 00:43:03,083
the most populous
country on Earth.
593
00:43:03,125 --> 00:43:06,375
I kept wondering,
what does a society look like
594
00:43:06,416 --> 00:43:10,041
when 32% of its population
is vegetarian?
595
00:43:10,083 --> 00:43:14,916
A staggering 400 million people
in India don't eat any meat.
596
00:43:17,541 --> 00:43:20,375
Followed by 80%
of the population,
597
00:43:20,416 --> 00:43:23,500
Hinduism is the major
religion of India.
598
00:43:23,541 --> 00:43:26,958
Hindus advocate nonviolence
and respect for all life,
599
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,625
embracing vegetarianism.
600
00:43:30,666 --> 00:43:35,625
Culturally, we havewhat I love to call
a mild indifference towards animals,
601
00:43:35,666 --> 00:43:41,375
which is the reason you see
animals all around you when you live.
602
00:43:41,416 --> 00:43:44,750
You have your birds of all sorts
are not getting shot down.
603
00:43:44,791 --> 00:43:47,291
You have dogs, of course,
you have cows.
604
00:43:47,333 --> 00:43:50,541
Your monkeys in cities,
you know.
605
00:43:50,583 --> 00:43:53,750
We see ourselves
more as a unified whole,
606
00:43:53,791 --> 00:43:57,458
where there is a place
for all other elements of nature as well.
607
00:44:03,041 --> 00:44:05,791
Cows in India
are a common sight.
608
00:44:05,833 --> 00:44:08,791
Around 50 million stray cattle
and stray dogs
609
00:44:08,833 --> 00:44:12,041
roam the streets of India
in search of food.
610
00:44:12,083 --> 00:44:14,208
Once the provider
for the family,
611
00:44:14,250 --> 00:44:18,333
cows are now seen by Hindus
as a maternal figure,
612
00:44:18,375 --> 00:44:22,416
males and females alike sacred
for their generosity.
613
00:44:22,458 --> 00:44:25,333
The slaughter of cows is banned
in most parts of India.
614
00:44:25,375 --> 00:44:29,916
Violators of the ban may face
up to ten years in prison.
615
00:44:34,333 --> 00:44:38,416
People think that Indians treat cows
as a holy animal,
616
00:44:38,458 --> 00:44:41,791
but the reality is far from it.
617
00:44:41,833 --> 00:44:46,958
India is apparently the largest
producer of milk in the world,
618
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,083
so it comes as no surprise that India
is also the largest exporter of beef
619
00:44:52,125 --> 00:44:56,041
and fifth largest exporter
of leather products.
620
00:44:58,041 --> 00:45:00,666
Because of the ban
on cow slaughter,
621
00:45:00,708 --> 00:45:03,583
dairy owners use buffaloes,
because, of course, buffaloes
622
00:45:03,625 --> 00:45:06,583
are exempted from this law.
623
00:45:10,833 --> 00:45:14,916
There's another very small
section of dairy owners
624
00:45:14,958 --> 00:45:17,708
who actually leave
their animals on the road.
625
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:21,750
Now, one weird thing,
that this concept
626
00:45:21,791 --> 00:45:23,958
of leaving animals
free on the road
627
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,625
is much better than the animals
being in the dairy,
628
00:45:26,666 --> 00:45:29,208
but they don't have access
to food and water,
629
00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:32,958
so they're left with no choice but to find
food in garbage bins.
630
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,958
Most of these throwaway eatables
631
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,875
are disposed of in
a plastic bag which is tied.
632
00:45:38,916 --> 00:45:41,583
These animals can't open the bag
633
00:45:41,625 --> 00:45:44,708
so they inevitably
eat these bags
634
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:47,083
along with the food items in it.
635
00:45:56,041 --> 00:45:58,875
In the urban youth that
is going to all these colleges,
636
00:45:58,916 --> 00:46:02,333
even the way these big
corporates are coming to India
637
00:46:02,375 --> 00:46:04,208
and sort of targeting the youth,
638
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:07,333
the consumption of non-veg
is definitely rising
639
00:46:07,375 --> 00:46:11,458
in the urban elite youth
who think it's cool or hip
640
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:14,583
to sort of consume non-veg,
to say that,
641
00:46:14,625 --> 00:46:16,750
"Oh, I'm being open-minded
and liberal
642
00:46:16,791 --> 00:46:19,125
and saying I can have
non-veg, it's a right."
643
00:46:21,208 --> 00:46:24,458
As middle-class
incomes grow
644
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:26,500
with growing economy,
645
00:46:26,541 --> 00:46:30,875
that's when the consumption
of luxury items increases,
646
00:46:30,916 --> 00:46:36,375
and cheese and dairy
and more eggs and meats,
647
00:46:36,416 --> 00:46:39,083
including exotic meats
is all a part of that continuum.
648
00:46:39,125 --> 00:46:44,291
If we can simply hold steady
649
00:46:44,333 --> 00:46:47,916
the rate of growth of non-vegetarianism,
that will be a big victory.
650
00:46:50,958 --> 00:46:53,833
Palitana, a city
in the state of Gujarat
651
00:46:53,875 --> 00:46:56,875
in northern India,
made headlines in 2014
652
00:46:56,916 --> 00:47:00,625
as the first vegetarian city
in the world.
653
00:47:00,666 --> 00:47:03,166
Also known
as the city of temples,
654
00:47:03,208 --> 00:47:06,833
Palitana is one of the most
holy sites to the Jains,
655
00:47:06,875 --> 00:47:10,458
an ancient religion said to be
even older than Buddhism.
656
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:38,791
The Jain Dharma believes
in nonviolence.
657
00:47:40,625 --> 00:47:43,291
No birds, no animals,
no insects,
658
00:47:43,333 --> 00:47:46,333
no human beings
should be harmed.
659
00:47:46,375 --> 00:47:52,166
Each and every living beings
have the right to live.
660
00:47:52,208 --> 00:47:55,791
You live and let live others.
661
00:47:59,708 --> 00:48:01,375
Last hundred years...
662
00:48:03,166 --> 00:48:06,041
many slaughterhouses
are allowed.
663
00:48:06,083 --> 00:48:09,500
That's why it's
our duty to stop them.
664
00:48:09,541 --> 00:48:13,083
If they are not Jains, so what?
665
00:48:13,125 --> 00:48:15,166
This is the holy place.
666
00:48:15,208 --> 00:48:18,125
You can't kill
any living beings.
667
00:48:18,166 --> 00:48:19,875
You can't harm them.
668
00:48:24,083 --> 00:48:29,250
All the monks
of Palitana, we went to fast.
669
00:48:29,291 --> 00:48:33,416
If Gujarat government
670
00:48:33,458 --> 00:48:38,500
will not stop the slaughtering,
then we'll sacrifice our lives
671
00:48:38,541 --> 00:48:40,083
for the animals.
672
00:48:40,125 --> 00:48:44,250
I announced, "If you want flesh,
673
00:48:44,291 --> 00:48:48,750
we will donate our meat,
our own meat."
674
00:48:48,791 --> 00:48:51,833
You cut us, you kill us.
675
00:48:51,875 --> 00:48:55,416
So you eat of our flesh.
You eat of our body.
676
00:48:57,875 --> 00:49:01,541
A vegetarian zone
was established in 1999,
677
00:49:01,583 --> 00:49:05,500
two kilometers along the main road
leading to the temple hill.
678
00:49:05,541 --> 00:49:09,458
In an area of 250 meters
to each side, the sale of meat,
679
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:12,208
fish, and eggs is banned by law.
680
00:49:12,250 --> 00:49:15,291
The aim of the monks is
to establish a larger zone
681
00:49:15,333 --> 00:49:18,708
within a nine-kilometer radius
around the city.
682
00:49:21,333 --> 00:49:24,583
All butchers,
we took meeting here.
683
00:49:24,625 --> 00:49:28,666
Approximately 80 to 90
butchers came here.
684
00:49:28,708 --> 00:49:34,625
So we give them options
that whatever your need is,
685
00:49:34,666 --> 00:49:36,833
we will help you.
686
00:49:36,875 --> 00:49:39,833
We gave them money
for change their professions.
687
00:49:44,541 --> 00:49:46,166
The former butchers,
688
00:49:46,208 --> 00:49:48,250
who now had grocery
and clothing stores,
689
00:49:48,291 --> 00:49:50,333
did not want to speak on camera,
690
00:49:50,375 --> 00:49:52,916
but they denied having
received a compensation
691
00:49:52,958 --> 00:49:55,958
and said they felt ashamed
of their former profession.
692
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,333
The Muslim community,
which accounts for 25%
of the city's population
693
00:50:00,375 --> 00:50:03,750
compared to only 3% Jains,
was not happy about the ban
694
00:50:03,791 --> 00:50:07,250
and deemed their religious freedom
had been violated.
695
00:50:08,541 --> 00:50:10,833
When I discovered
a backyard slaughterhouse,
696
00:50:10,875 --> 00:50:12,583
the meat had already been sold
697
00:50:12,625 --> 00:50:15,125
and the leftovers were fed
to the dogs.
698
00:50:15,166 --> 00:50:18,291
The butchers were suspicious
and reluctant to talk,
699
00:50:18,333 --> 00:50:20,833
similar to the city officials
who referred me
700
00:50:20,875 --> 00:50:23,833
to the district headquarters
in Bhavnagar.
701
00:50:25,958 --> 00:50:31,208
We trust
on Lord Adinath that very soon
702
00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:35,750
the entire Palitana, holy city,
vegetarian zone,
703
00:50:35,791 --> 00:50:38,083
vegetarian city.
704
00:50:38,125 --> 00:50:41,125
And not only Palitana.
705
00:50:41,166 --> 00:50:43,958
My wish is
706
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,916
that whatever the missions
going from Palitana,
707
00:50:46,958 --> 00:50:51,916
it should be whole,
toward the entire world.
708
00:50:51,958 --> 00:50:54,333
Whole world should be
vegetarian.
709
00:50:58,208 --> 00:51:01,375
In Mumbai, I wanted to learn more
about Jainism
710
00:51:01,416 --> 00:51:05,166
and got in touch with
Pramoda Chitrabhanu, a vegan Jain.
711
00:51:05,208 --> 00:51:08,125
I met her in the district
of Malabar Hill,
712
00:51:08,166 --> 00:51:11,125
one of the most posh
residential areas in Mumbai
713
00:51:11,166 --> 00:51:14,250
and an exclusively
vegetarian neighborhood.
714
00:51:16,583 --> 00:51:19,916
Ahimsa is the center
of this philosophy
715
00:51:19,958 --> 00:51:24,750
because in 599 BC,
Lord Mahavira,
716
00:51:24,791 --> 00:51:29,125
who was the last apostle
of the Jain religion,
717
00:51:29,166 --> 00:51:34,250
he said that those
who disregard and disrespect
718
00:51:34,291 --> 00:51:39,208
the existence of life
in earth, water, fire, air,
719
00:51:39,250 --> 00:51:42,625
vegetation, and all life forms,
720
00:51:42,666 --> 00:51:46,291
disregards and disrespects
his own existence
721
00:51:46,333 --> 00:51:50,333
because all life are
intertwined with each other.
722
00:51:54,333 --> 00:51:59,750
The best means to stop
these people from eating meat
723
00:51:59,791 --> 00:52:02,750
would be through educating.
724
00:52:02,791 --> 00:52:05,083
Education is the only way.
725
00:52:05,125 --> 00:52:10,250
I don't think so by stopping and burning
the slaughterhouses, all those things.
726
00:52:10,291 --> 00:52:13,458
And to stop that,
one has to go out
727
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:15,541
and educate them, talk to them,
728
00:52:15,583 --> 00:52:19,083
make them understand why
we are talking about this,
729
00:52:19,125 --> 00:52:23,791
make them understand that
animals are not a commodity.
730
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,000
My experience
in India left me wondering
731
00:52:31,041 --> 00:52:33,833
what our cities and communities
could look like
732
00:52:33,875 --> 00:52:37,416
if we no longer viewed animals
as commodities.
733
00:52:37,458 --> 00:52:40,666
In Leipzig, I met
with artist Hartmut Kiewert,
734
00:52:40,708 --> 00:52:45,333
who envisions a very different
way of living with animals.
735
00:55:01,791 --> 00:55:05,041
During my research,
I came across the "Zoopolis,"
736
00:55:05,083 --> 00:55:07,291
a term describing an environment
737
00:55:07,333 --> 00:55:11,333
in which humans and animals
not only coexist
738
00:55:11,375 --> 00:55:15,541
but also thrive
alongside one another.
739
00:55:15,583 --> 00:55:19,416
The idea of Zoopolis
arose from the idea
740
00:55:19,458 --> 00:55:23,541
that urban theory,
ideas about the city
and how cities work,
741
00:55:23,583 --> 00:55:26,416
were really only about people,
742
00:55:26,458 --> 00:55:30,041
and when I started thinking about,
"Well, who actually lives in cities?"
743
00:55:30,083 --> 00:55:33,083
it was clear that,
and it is clear that,
744
00:55:33,125 --> 00:55:35,458
there's a lot of nonhumans
that live in cities,
745
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:41,375
and so I wanted to create what I called
a transspecies urban theory,
746
00:55:41,416 --> 00:55:44,083
and also a transspecies
urban practice
747
00:55:44,125 --> 00:55:47,500
in which built environment
professionals...
748
00:55:47,541 --> 00:55:49,833
Environmental designers,
architects, planners,
749
00:55:49,875 --> 00:55:52,083
landscape architects,
engineers...
750
00:55:52,125 --> 00:55:56,333
Actually thought about
nonhuman residents of cities
751
00:55:56,375 --> 00:55:58,833
as well as human inhabitants
and their needs.
752
00:55:58,875 --> 00:56:01,875
But I think it raises
the question
753
00:56:01,916 --> 00:56:03,916
of how do you include animals
754
00:56:03,958 --> 00:56:06,458
in a democratic
decision-making process,
755
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:09,291
in a discourse of citizenship,
756
00:56:09,333 --> 00:56:14,208
in a way that makes their...
757
00:56:14,250 --> 00:56:20,041
needs and wants and desires
part of the conversation?
758
00:56:21,875 --> 00:56:23,625
Two Canadian philosophers
759
00:56:23,666 --> 00:56:27,458
turned the concept of the Zoopolis
into a radical claim,
760
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:31,791
going so far as to consider
animals our co-citizens.
761
00:56:31,833 --> 00:56:33,708
While most animal rights
philosophers
762
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:37,250
call for a separation of
the world's humans and animals,
763
00:56:37,291 --> 00:56:40,000
Will Kymlicka
and Sue Donaldson believe
764
00:56:40,041 --> 00:56:42,625
that a shared world is possible.
765
00:56:44,333 --> 00:56:47,666
If we look around
just out the window here,
766
00:56:47,708 --> 00:56:50,958
we see all kinds of animals
who make their homes
767
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,125
in our cities,
our communities, our houses,
768
00:56:54,166 --> 00:56:58,000
and the idea that we could
somehow live separately from animals
769
00:56:58,041 --> 00:57:00,750
and avoid domination
and exploitation that way
770
00:57:00,791 --> 00:57:02,208
is completely unrealistic.
771
00:57:04,416 --> 00:57:07,333
Yeah, so we
distinguish three categories,
772
00:57:07,375 --> 00:57:10,333
or three broad patterns,
of relationships.
773
00:57:10,375 --> 00:57:14,083
So domesticated animals
we think should be seen as
774
00:57:14,125 --> 00:57:15,679
members of our society,
775
00:57:15,704 --> 00:57:18,434
and the way in which we affirm
membership is through citizenship.
776
00:57:18,458 --> 00:57:21,500
So we should think
of domesticated animals as our co-citizens,
777
00:57:21,541 --> 00:57:23,666
and that means,
like other citizens,
778
00:57:23,708 --> 00:57:28,000
they would have the rights
to protection from harm,
779
00:57:28,041 --> 00:57:30,541
rights to health care,
780
00:57:30,583 --> 00:57:33,708
rights to political
representation
781
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:35,958
to have their interests
taken into account.
782
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,916
And, of course, the right to live here
and rights of residency.
783
00:57:41,164 --> 00:57:45,791
The second category concerns
animals who continue to live
784
00:57:45,833 --> 00:57:48,916
independently of humans
on their own habitat.
785
00:57:48,958 --> 00:57:51,125
So there's not much
wilderness left in this world,
786
00:57:51,166 --> 00:57:53,666
we keep conquering
and colonizing,
787
00:57:53,708 --> 00:57:55,875
so we recognize rights
of territory
788
00:57:55,916 --> 00:57:57,625
and the rights
of wilderness animals
789
00:57:57,666 --> 00:57:59,791
to live autonomously
on their territory.
790
00:57:59,833 --> 00:58:05,000
And in political theory, we bundle
these rights to territory and autonomy
791
00:58:05,041 --> 00:58:07,375
under the idea of sovereignty,
792
00:58:07,416 --> 00:58:09,916
so we should think
of wild animals
793
00:58:09,958 --> 00:58:11,916
as having sovereignty rights
794
00:58:11,958 --> 00:58:14,083
over themselves
and their territory.
795
00:58:15,958 --> 00:58:17,500
And the third category,
796
00:58:17,541 --> 00:58:19,416
which is in some ways
the least studied,
797
00:58:19,458 --> 00:58:21,666
the least theorized
in the animal rights debate,
798
00:58:21,708 --> 00:58:25,875
concerns the nondomesticated
animals who live amongst us.
799
00:58:25,916 --> 00:58:29,541
So, urban wildlife,
to simplify it.
800
00:58:29,583 --> 00:58:32,750
Crows, pigeons, ducks, mice,
801
00:58:32,791 --> 00:58:34,375
squirrels.
802
00:58:34,416 --> 00:58:36,583
So in our view,
we need to recognize
803
00:58:36,625 --> 00:58:39,000
that these animals
live amongst us,
804
00:58:39,041 --> 00:58:41,125
and so they have
residency rights
805
00:58:41,166 --> 00:58:43,333
and we need to learn to coexist.
806
00:58:43,375 --> 00:58:46,750
So they have rights
to be accommodated
807
00:58:46,791 --> 00:58:49,041
in this shared space.
808
00:58:49,083 --> 00:58:51,916
But that's a looser
kind of relationship
809
00:58:51,958 --> 00:58:55,333
than with citizenship,
and so we call that "denizenship."
810
00:58:59,750 --> 00:59:01,708
So, so long as we are
committed to the idea
811
00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:03,458
that we're going
to be living together
812
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:05,500
with at least some
domesticated animals,
813
00:59:05,541 --> 00:59:08,750
what we want is a way
of framing that relationship
814
00:59:08,791 --> 00:59:13,250
that imposes on us an obligation
to be responsive to them,
815
00:59:13,291 --> 00:59:16,541
to the animals, and that's
what we view citizenship as doing.
816
00:59:19,625 --> 00:59:23,875
It was difficult to picture a world
with animals as our co-citizens.
817
00:59:23,916 --> 00:59:26,458
But there were already
tiny communities
818
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:29,916
where this idea didn't seem
too far from reality.
819
00:59:29,958 --> 00:59:33,166
German author and activist
Hilal Sezgin
820
00:59:33,208 --> 00:59:35,291
moved from the city
to the countryside
821
00:59:35,333 --> 00:59:38,416
and unintentionally
adopted a herd of sheep.
822
01:02:23,041 --> 01:02:25,333
Hmm, she's due
for a family walk.
823
01:02:26,916 --> 01:02:28,916
♪
824
01:02:36,208 --> 01:02:40,583
I heard that someone else had traded life
in suburbia for the countryside.
825
01:02:40,625 --> 01:02:42,333
Esther the Wonder Pig.
826
01:02:42,375 --> 01:02:43,958
Through
a crowd-funding campaign,
827
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,083
Steve, Derek and Esther
founded a farm sanctuary
828
01:02:47,125 --> 01:02:49,125
just outside of Toronto.
829
01:02:50,291 --> 01:02:54,083
So Happily Ever Esther
Farm Sanctuary is 50 acres,
830
01:02:54,125 --> 01:02:59,041
and half of it is treed
and the other half is fields.
831
01:02:59,083 --> 01:03:02,500
We had an Indiegogo
fundraising campaign,
832
01:03:02,541 --> 01:03:07,083
and in 60 days,
we raised $450,000.
833
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,208
So this is the forest paddock.
834
01:03:12,250 --> 01:03:15,833
And... here's someone
living a dream.
835
01:03:15,875 --> 01:03:18,625
Here's Leonard.
836
01:03:18,666 --> 01:03:21,041
There's a gate up there that allows
him to get into that area
837
01:03:21,083 --> 01:03:24,583
from behind the barn and into the barn,
so he can go wherever he wants.
838
01:03:24,625 --> 01:03:28,583
You know, pigs in the wild will travel six
to eight miles in a day.
839
01:03:28,625 --> 01:03:32,750
The second we opened up the gate for
the big pigs to come into the woods,
840
01:03:32,791 --> 01:03:36,458
they were like, "What?"
You know, "This is awesome!"
841
01:03:37,958 --> 01:03:40,250
I love seeing the pigs
in the woods just chill,
842
01:03:40,291 --> 01:03:42,833
like Esther when she's
walking through the woods.
843
01:03:42,875 --> 01:03:46,000
She's just in her element,
she's so happy.
844
01:03:49,416 --> 01:03:53,916
The idea behind a sanctuary
is to just let the animals be themselves.
845
01:03:53,958 --> 01:03:57,041
It's really neat to see
an animal come here all on their own,
846
01:03:57,083 --> 01:04:00,833
you know, just one,
and see how they start integrating in
847
01:04:00,875 --> 01:04:03,791
and creating friendships
with different animals
848
01:04:03,833 --> 01:04:07,750
and cross-species
where everybody fits in.
849
01:04:07,791 --> 01:04:10,291
You know, not everybody
gets along,
850
01:04:10,333 --> 01:04:12,666
and we recognize that too,
and they don't have to,
851
01:04:12,708 --> 01:04:15,208
'cause there's two sides
to the fence.
852
01:04:15,250 --> 01:04:17,666
They can be on that side
or they can be on this side.
853
01:04:17,708 --> 01:04:21,666
It's just about recognizing
the needs for them.
854
01:04:26,791 --> 01:04:28,958
The idea
of farm sanctuaries
855
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,541
is to provide
a safe haven for animals
856
01:04:31,583 --> 01:04:34,708
that were rescued or escaped
from factory farms
857
01:04:34,750 --> 01:04:36,625
and slaughterhouses.
858
01:04:36,666 --> 01:04:39,333
Here, they are cared for
and given the opportunity
859
01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:43,750
to behave as naturally as possible in
a protective environment.
860
01:04:43,791 --> 01:04:47,375
I was wondering what the people
who are running these sanctuaries
861
01:04:47,416 --> 01:04:50,666
had learned from living
so closely with farmed animals
862
01:04:50,708 --> 01:04:52,458
over the years.
863
01:04:54,625 --> 01:04:57,583
Farm Sanctuary started
back in the mid 1980s
864
01:04:57,625 --> 01:05:00,267
to combat the abuses
of factory farming,
865
01:05:00,292 --> 01:05:03,750
and we started by investigating
farms and stockyards and slaughterhouses.
866
01:05:03,791 --> 01:05:06,875
We'd find living animals
literally thrown in trash cans
867
01:05:06,916 --> 01:05:08,583
or on piles of dead animals.
868
01:05:08,625 --> 01:05:10,375
We started rescuing them
869
01:05:10,416 --> 01:05:12,375
and we were selling
vegan hot dogs
870
01:05:12,416 --> 01:05:14,958
at Grateful Dead shows
to fund the work.
871
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,458
And we now have
three sanctuaries,
872
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:18,125
one in New York,
two in California.
873
01:05:19,208 --> 01:05:21,625
The first animal farm
sanctuary rescue was Hilda,
874
01:05:21,666 --> 01:05:26,666
who was a sheep, who was left on
a pile of dead animals behind a stockyard.
875
01:05:26,708 --> 01:05:29,333
The maggots were so thick,
you could hear them buzzing
876
01:05:29,375 --> 01:05:31,166
as they devoured
these carcasses.
877
01:05:31,208 --> 01:05:33,833
And out of this pile,
a sheep lifts her head.
878
01:05:33,875 --> 01:05:38,291
And we were stunned that a living animal
would be discarded like garbage this way.
879
01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:41,583
And we picked her off the dead pile
thinking she would have to be euthanized.
880
01:05:41,625 --> 01:05:45,333
But as the veterinarian
started looking at her and examining her,
881
01:05:45,375 --> 01:05:48,291
she started perking up
and then she stood up,
882
01:05:48,333 --> 01:05:51,708
and she lived a good, long life.
883
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:55,208
And ultimately all of us,
human beings and other animals,
884
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:57,458
want to live a good, long life,
885
01:05:57,500 --> 01:06:00,708
and farm animals are not
given that opportunity.
886
01:06:02,375 --> 01:06:04,333
Hi!
887
01:06:09,625 --> 01:06:11,833
Animals at farm animal
sanctuaries
888
01:06:11,875 --> 01:06:16,083
behave very differently than if
you were to meet them out on a farm.
889
01:06:16,125 --> 01:06:18,875
Many of these animals
are incredibly resilient
890
01:06:18,916 --> 01:06:21,583
and they've lost
their fear of people,
891
01:06:21,625 --> 01:06:24,583
and that allows people
to see their personalities.
892
01:06:27,208 --> 01:06:31,291
We had these three turkeys,
Boone, Alphonso and Hershel,
893
01:06:31,333 --> 01:06:34,041
and so in the early days,
they would follow us everywhere,
894
01:06:34,083 --> 01:06:36,583
when we were doing tours
and taking people around.
895
01:06:36,625 --> 01:06:38,541
And sometimes you can tell
896
01:06:38,583 --> 01:06:41,875
it's like a wife has brought
her husband and her kids,
897
01:06:41,916 --> 01:06:46,041
and she's the one who has
compassion in her heart for animals
898
01:06:46,083 --> 01:06:48,250
and she's trying to expose
her family to it.
899
01:06:48,291 --> 01:06:50,166
We see this a lot.
900
01:06:51,583 --> 01:06:54,125
So this father
was walking around,
901
01:06:54,166 --> 01:06:57,000
and you could tell he just
sort of kept to himself
902
01:06:57,041 --> 01:07:00,041
and had his hands in his pockets
and was sort of marveling
903
01:07:00,083 --> 01:07:03,625
and laughing and smirking at the turkeys
as they would follow around,
904
01:07:03,666 --> 01:07:07,625
and if the kids would laugh or clap
their hands, the turkeys would respond.
905
01:07:07,666 --> 01:07:12,500
But at the end of the tour, I looked over
and he was petting Hershel's head,
906
01:07:12,541 --> 01:07:16,250
and then he sort of squatted down
and he was face to face with Hershel,
907
01:07:16,291 --> 01:07:19,458
and I saw like a tear
stream down his face,
908
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:23,916
and he said to his kids that
he was wrong all these years
909
01:07:23,958 --> 01:07:27,583
and that he was so resistant
to his wife, their mother,
910
01:07:27,625 --> 01:07:32,083
and that he never realized
that they could be so friendly
911
01:07:32,125 --> 01:07:34,750
and that they had
such unique personalities
912
01:07:34,791 --> 01:07:38,853
and that he could ever
find himself being so fond of a turkey.
913
01:07:41,958 --> 01:07:43,708
♪
914
01:07:55,958 --> 01:07:57,798
It is the first
open day of the year
915
01:07:57,833 --> 01:08:01,708
at Friend Animal Rescue
in Kent, England.
916
01:08:01,750 --> 01:08:04,541
I came here to learn
how visitors interact
917
01:08:04,583 --> 01:08:07,458
with farmed animals
at a sanctuary.
918
01:08:11,875 --> 01:08:15,960
When I first turned up here, I was
a committed meat eater.
919
01:08:17,416 --> 01:08:19,583
And I met Marion.
920
01:08:19,625 --> 01:08:22,958
I just saw this little woman
here on her own
921
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,750
with all these pigs and cows
and sheep and horses,
922
01:08:26,791 --> 01:08:30,166
just caring for them,
feeding them and watering them.
923
01:08:30,208 --> 01:08:33,458
I was just like, wow,
it was like a Disney cartoon.
924
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:35,375
It inspired me.
925
01:08:35,416 --> 01:08:37,833
I firmly believed
I had to eat meat.
926
01:08:37,875 --> 01:08:42,250
And on the premise, really, if I didn't,
I would get sick, possibly die.
927
01:08:42,291 --> 01:08:47,375
So when she was explaining
to me about the industry,
928
01:08:47,416 --> 01:08:49,875
the farmed animal industry
and what happens,
929
01:08:49,916 --> 01:08:52,541
they're slaughtered so young,
for example.
930
01:08:52,583 --> 01:08:55,000
Most of them are babies,
under a year old.
931
01:08:55,041 --> 01:08:58,791
You kind of... I got defensive,
I think a lot of people did.
932
01:08:58,833 --> 01:09:00,833
You like carrots,
don't you?
933
01:09:00,875 --> 01:09:02,333
Oh!
934
01:09:02,375 --> 01:09:05,166
There's only
so many farmed animals
935
01:09:05,208 --> 01:09:07,375
because people choose
to eat them.
936
01:09:08,291 --> 01:09:11,000
When you start meeting
these animals,
937
01:09:11,041 --> 01:09:13,791
it brings out a softer side,
938
01:09:13,833 --> 01:09:17,000
and I think you have to be
very, very kind of fix minded
939
01:09:17,041 --> 01:09:21,041
or very almost brutal
to suddenly meet these animals
940
01:09:21,083 --> 01:09:23,500
and decide, "I could just
carry on eating them."
941
01:09:24,791 --> 01:09:27,500
It affected me big-time,
to such an extent,
942
01:09:27,541 --> 01:09:30,250
not only did I become vegan,
943
01:09:30,291 --> 01:09:35,083
I ended up staying 15 years,
marrying Marion,
944
01:09:35,125 --> 01:09:36,958
and it changed my life forever.
945
01:09:38,791 --> 01:09:43,416
So that would be a very good
example of what this place does.
946
01:09:51,166 --> 01:09:52,958
The Erdlingshof,
947
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,541
a small sanctuary
in the Bavarian forest,
948
01:09:55,583 --> 01:09:58,416
has a special focus on male cows
949
01:09:58,458 --> 01:10:01,416
who are rescued
from the dairy industry.
950
01:11:08,208 --> 01:11:10,208
♪
951
01:11:13,541 --> 01:11:18,333
Sanctuaries provide
a sort of aspiration
952
01:11:18,375 --> 01:11:21,125
to the kind of world
we could create,
953
01:11:21,166 --> 01:11:25,416
one where the animals live
with us and we live with them,
954
01:11:25,458 --> 01:11:30,559
and nobody has to be afraid of anybody
because we're not killing and eating them.
955
01:11:30,584 --> 01:11:34,541
Now, there are also animals
that are carnivores,
956
01:11:34,583 --> 01:11:38,333
and that creates
some challenging situations
957
01:11:38,375 --> 01:11:41,500
for somebody
with a vegan mindset.
958
01:11:41,541 --> 01:11:45,291
But at the end of the day,
certain animals don't have a choice.
959
01:11:45,333 --> 01:11:48,250
Lions cannot live on plants.
960
01:11:48,291 --> 01:11:50,708
Human beings do have a choice.
961
01:11:50,750 --> 01:11:54,583
We can live and we can thrive
eating plants instead of animals.
962
01:11:54,625 --> 01:11:58,666
The role of animals
in society has evolved dramatically.
963
01:11:58,708 --> 01:12:03,500
We've learned a lot about animals'
cognitive abilities and social development.
964
01:12:03,541 --> 01:12:07,041
Pigs, for example, share
a number of cognitive capacities
965
01:12:07,083 --> 01:12:09,416
with other highly
intelligent species,
966
01:12:09,458 --> 01:12:14,875
yet the law still considers
all animals mere things.
967
01:12:14,916 --> 01:12:17,458
There are laws
affecting all animals.
968
01:12:17,500 --> 01:12:20,004
Within the United States,
we have the Animal Welfare Act.
969
01:12:20,029 --> 01:12:22,059
Sadly, though it's called
the Animal Welfare Act,
970
01:12:22,083 --> 01:12:26,000
it doesn't cover farm animals,
so it doesn't cover 99% of the animals
971
01:12:26,041 --> 01:12:28,625
in industrial use
in the United States,
972
01:12:28,666 --> 01:12:30,625
and there are other important
exceptions as well,
973
01:12:30,666 --> 01:12:32,458
but let's face it,
that's the big exception.
974
01:12:32,500 --> 01:12:35,458
It's all the animals, basically,
from a statistical point of view.
975
01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:38,958
All the animals are farm animals,
they're not protected by federal law.
976
01:12:41,125 --> 01:12:45,291
For hundreds of years,
there's been this high, thick legal wall,
977
01:12:45,333 --> 01:12:48,125
and on one side of that
are all the legal things
978
01:12:48,166 --> 01:12:50,125
and the other side
are the legal persons.
979
01:12:50,166 --> 01:12:52,416
If you take a snapshot in 2015,
980
01:12:52,458 --> 01:12:55,541
all the nonhuman animals
of the world are on the thing side
981
01:12:55,583 --> 01:12:58,083
and all the human beings
are on the person side.
982
01:12:58,125 --> 01:13:00,083
It wasn't always that way.
983
01:13:00,108 --> 01:13:02,248
Two hundred years ago,
women might have been things.
984
01:13:02,273 --> 01:13:04,333
Slaves were things,
children were things,
985
01:13:04,375 --> 01:13:08,375
but right now, all
nonhuman animals are things
986
01:13:08,416 --> 01:13:10,000
and all humans are persons.
987
01:13:10,041 --> 01:13:12,041
And the work of
the Nonhuman Rights Project,
988
01:13:12,083 --> 01:13:14,875
especially the initial goal,
is to break through that wall
989
01:13:14,916 --> 01:13:19,958
and begin bringing as many
nonhuman animals as possible
990
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,791
through that wall from the side
of the things to the side of the persons.
991
01:13:23,833 --> 01:13:26,583
Things are slaves
and slaves are things.
992
01:13:26,625 --> 01:13:29,541
When humans were slaves,
they were treated horrendously.
993
01:13:29,583 --> 01:13:33,416
Nonhumans are slaves, they're
treated horrendously as well.
994
01:13:33,458 --> 01:13:36,125
And if they're not treated
horrendously,
995
01:13:36,166 --> 01:13:39,666
like my dog Yogi
who's running around here,
996
01:13:39,708 --> 01:13:42,333
he's not treated
horrendously at all.
997
01:13:42,375 --> 01:13:45,291
He's a very happy dog.
998
01:13:45,333 --> 01:13:49,833
But it's really because
I want to treat him that way.
999
01:13:49,875 --> 01:13:52,750
If I want him killed,
he would be killed.
1000
01:13:52,791 --> 01:13:55,875
If I want to do something to him
that doesn't amount to cruelty,
1001
01:13:55,916 --> 01:13:58,208
I could do something to him.
1002
01:13:58,250 --> 01:14:00,875
And that's not right.
1003
01:14:02,833 --> 01:14:04,708
Any lawyer working
for social change
1004
01:14:04,750 --> 01:14:07,333
will tell you that the law
usually follows society
1005
01:14:07,375 --> 01:14:09,333
and not the other way around.
1006
01:14:09,375 --> 01:14:11,666
And what we've seen
over the last few decades
1007
01:14:11,708 --> 01:14:14,375
is that society has made
tremendous strides
1008
01:14:14,416 --> 01:14:19,208
in understanding that animals
are deserving of our compassion
and our respect.
1009
01:14:19,250 --> 01:14:23,541
We now know that, in all the ways
that matter, animals are just like us.
1010
01:14:23,583 --> 01:14:29,083
They feel fear, they feel pain, but they
also experience joy and positive emotions.
1011
01:14:29,125 --> 01:14:32,708
One meaningful legal change
that we can make for animals tomorrow
1012
01:14:32,750 --> 01:14:36,875
is to give them the right to have
someone represent their interests in court.
1013
01:14:36,916 --> 01:14:39,458
Obviously animals
can't speak for themselves,
1014
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:43,458
and in that respect they're just like
children or incapacitated people
1015
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:46,583
who have special advocates
who go to court for them.
1016
01:14:46,625 --> 01:14:48,750
We could set up
the same system for animals
1017
01:14:48,791 --> 01:14:51,708
so that lawyers can go speak
on behalf of animals,
1018
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:54,916
represent their interests
and ensure that they're protected.
1019
01:14:54,958 --> 01:14:59,541
As people become more concerned,
there will be more regulation.
1020
01:14:59,583 --> 01:15:01,958
Then the products will
become more expensive,
1021
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,666
the use will be reduced.
1022
01:15:04,708 --> 01:15:08,208
I don't think there will ever be
a law against eating meat,
1023
01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:12,250
but I think that the day will come when
it will become socially unacceptable.
1024
01:15:12,291 --> 01:15:15,666
I don't see... I think
that it's so interesting
1025
01:15:15,708 --> 01:15:18,666
that 98% of
this country eats meat.
1026
01:15:18,708 --> 01:15:22,375
It seems very unlikely that we could
pass a law prohibiting it at this point,
1027
01:15:22,416 --> 01:15:24,250
and yet even
at this very moment,
1028
01:15:24,291 --> 01:15:26,708
they're nervous
that that could happen,
1029
01:15:26,750 --> 01:15:28,791
that their meat will be
taken away from them.
1030
01:15:28,833 --> 01:15:32,333
I don't see that that's
the way that the law will evolve.
1031
01:15:32,375 --> 01:15:34,666
I do see it as the way
that society will evolve.
1032
01:15:34,708 --> 01:15:36,958
I do see that
the law will evolve
1033
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,916
to get more and more strict
in its regulation of the industries.
1034
01:15:42,458 --> 01:15:45,583
The number of plant-based alternatives
is growing,
1035
01:15:45,625 --> 01:15:50,416
with taste and texture growing ever closer
to actual animal products.
1036
01:15:50,458 --> 01:15:55,041
But there is something else making
headlines around the world: cultured meat.
1037
01:15:55,083 --> 01:15:59,416
The same technique used to grow
human tissue in regenerative medicine
1038
01:15:59,458 --> 01:16:04,583
is now used to produce meat
without killing animals.
1039
01:16:04,625 --> 01:16:08,833
In August of 2013, the first
hamburger grown in a lab
1040
01:16:08,875 --> 01:16:13,708
was presented to 200 journalists
from around the world in London.
1041
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:16,625
Financed by Google
co-founder Sergey Brin,
1042
01:16:16,666 --> 01:16:22,708
the cost of the patty was
estimated to be 250,000 Euros.
1043
01:16:22,750 --> 01:16:25,500
Okay, everyone sitting here
with bated breath
1044
01:16:25,541 --> 01:16:27,666
is dying to see what's
underneath the cloche,
1045
01:16:27,708 --> 01:16:31,083
so can you do the honors
and lift the lid on your creation?
1046
01:16:31,125 --> 01:16:32,416
I can.
1047
01:16:32,458 --> 01:16:34,958
Okay.
Now, obviously...
1048
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,291
Why do we need
cultured meat?
1049
01:16:37,333 --> 01:16:40,375
It's basically because none
of the substitutes so far
1050
01:16:40,416 --> 01:16:45,000
have been sort of capable
of completely mimicking
1051
01:16:45,041 --> 01:16:47,791
the meat experience,
if you like.
1052
01:16:47,833 --> 01:16:51,208
Uh, and in my mind,
people want meat
1053
01:16:51,250 --> 01:16:53,375
and not meat substitutes,
1054
01:16:53,416 --> 01:16:57,166
unless the meat substitute
at some point becomes so good
1055
01:16:57,208 --> 01:17:00,666
that you cannot distinguish them
from the real thing.
1056
01:17:02,291 --> 01:17:05,083
Uh, we, uh...
1057
01:17:05,125 --> 01:17:08,833
Better food security
for the entire population.
1058
01:17:08,875 --> 01:17:11,041
Less impact on the environment.
1059
01:17:11,083 --> 01:17:13,666
And less animal welfare issues.
1060
01:17:13,708 --> 01:17:16,083
Those are the three
major concerns.
1061
01:17:16,125 --> 01:17:20,083
And for those important reasons,
I really hope that at some point
1062
01:17:20,125 --> 01:17:24,416
we can deliver a product, so that
people can still eat their beloved meat
1063
01:17:24,458 --> 01:17:26,750
without the negative
consequences.
1064
01:17:27,875 --> 01:17:30,333
We use cells from a cow.
1065
01:17:30,375 --> 01:17:33,041
We harvest them through
a harmless procedure,
1066
01:17:33,083 --> 01:17:36,541
and they have cells...
we all have cells in our muscles...
1067
01:17:36,583 --> 01:17:39,416
That are sitting there waiting
to repair an injury.
1068
01:17:39,458 --> 01:17:42,625
And they have the capacity
to multiply,
1069
01:17:42,666 --> 01:17:45,083
so we take them out of the cow,
1070
01:17:45,125 --> 01:17:48,541
expand them in the lab
until we have 40 billion cells.
1071
01:17:48,583 --> 01:17:50,250
And we do it in a particular way
1072
01:17:50,291 --> 01:17:53,000
so that they form
real muscle fibers,
1073
01:17:53,041 --> 01:17:54,875
and that's the basis
for our meat.
1074
01:17:54,916 --> 01:17:56,833
So if you have a lot
of those muscle fibers,
1075
01:17:56,875 --> 01:17:59,125
we can basically make
a hamburger out of them.
1076
01:18:01,458 --> 01:18:03,004
Apart from meat,
I learned
1077
01:18:03,029 --> 01:18:04,642
that there were
also a number of startups
1078
01:18:04,666 --> 01:18:06,833
working on other
cultured products
1079
01:18:06,875 --> 01:18:09,291
to replace their
animal-derived counterparts
1080
01:18:09,333 --> 01:18:11,083
in the near future.
1081
01:18:13,666 --> 01:18:15,333
The mission
of New Harvest
1082
01:18:15,375 --> 01:18:18,208
is to accelerate
the post-animal bio-economy.
1083
01:18:18,250 --> 01:18:21,083
So we're trying to build
a whole new economy
1084
01:18:21,125 --> 01:18:24,041
where animal products are made
without animals,
1085
01:18:24,083 --> 01:18:28,750
and New Harvest's role
is in providing that initial catalytic step
1086
01:18:28,791 --> 01:18:33,916
that helps researchers get a first amount
of data done or a first prototype done
1087
01:18:33,958 --> 01:18:36,083
so that once they have
that prototype,
1088
01:18:36,125 --> 01:18:39,791
other investors and other
funders will get involved.
1089
01:18:42,041 --> 01:18:46,125
Cultured meat is getting a cell
and then dividing the cell.
1090
01:18:46,166 --> 01:18:49,375
So there's no reason
for GMO to be involved at all
1091
01:18:49,416 --> 01:18:52,083
in the production
of cultured meat.
1092
01:18:52,125 --> 01:18:54,333
Cultured meat
will not come from a lab.
1093
01:18:54,375 --> 01:18:57,541
The actual vision of this future
is one that looks like a brewery,
1094
01:18:57,583 --> 01:19:01,625
and you go to a brewery and you see
these gigantic stainless-steel tanks,
1095
01:19:01,666 --> 01:19:05,458
and you don't perceive
the brewer as a scientist,
1096
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:09,208
you think of him as an artisan
or a crafts person.
1097
01:19:09,250 --> 01:19:13,250
You know, I've been combing the comments
of cultured meat and cultured milk
1098
01:19:13,291 --> 01:19:16,166
and cultured egg articles
for a long time,
1099
01:19:16,208 --> 01:19:18,791
and a lot of people are like,
"Well, if this tastes as good,
1100
01:19:18,833 --> 01:19:22,166
then how could I choose something
that came from a slaughtered animal
1101
01:19:22,208 --> 01:19:25,125
if what my experience is
is the same?"
1102
01:19:27,833 --> 01:19:30,625
In San Francisco,
several companies are working
1103
01:19:30,666 --> 01:19:33,458
on animal products
without the animal.
1104
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:37,541
Indie Bio is a startup accelerator
for synthetic biology.
1105
01:19:37,583 --> 01:19:39,708
Backed by a venture
capital fund,
1106
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:43,291
companies that join the program receive
a quarter million dollars
1107
01:19:43,333 --> 01:19:47,666
and the lab space to reach
a prototype in just four months.
1108
01:19:48,833 --> 01:19:50,833
Indie Bio
is an accelerator
1109
01:19:50,875 --> 01:19:52,833
for early stage
biotechnology companies.
1110
01:19:52,875 --> 01:19:57,500
The vision was to create
something totally new.
1111
01:19:57,541 --> 01:20:00,208
We think we can use biology
to replace animals,
1112
01:20:00,250 --> 01:20:04,208
so instead of domesticating animals,
we're domesticating cells.
1113
01:20:04,250 --> 01:20:06,583
And we're really focusing
on a new paradigm
1114
01:20:06,625 --> 01:20:09,625
in producing the foods
and goods that people want,
1115
01:20:09,666 --> 01:20:14,333
without the environmental
or ethical aspects of using animals.
1116
01:20:19,083 --> 01:20:22,916
We're making gelatin
without the animal.
1117
01:20:22,958 --> 01:20:26,791
So there are a litany
of consumer goods
1118
01:20:26,833 --> 01:20:30,041
that contain gelatin
that many people don't realize,
1119
01:20:30,083 --> 01:20:34,041
in everything from yoghurt
to gummi bears,
1120
01:20:34,083 --> 01:20:36,166
industrial applications,
medicines.
1121
01:20:36,208 --> 01:20:38,000
So the approach
that we're taking
1122
01:20:38,041 --> 01:20:41,000
is to engineer
microbial factories
1123
01:20:41,041 --> 01:20:43,541
that can make
the same exact gelatin
1124
01:20:43,583 --> 01:20:46,125
that people would get
out of animal tissues,
1125
01:20:46,166 --> 01:20:50,000
but instead of taking it from an animal
and doing it in a top-down approach,
1126
01:20:50,041 --> 01:20:55,500
we're building it from scratch
with stuff like yeast.
1127
01:20:55,541 --> 01:20:58,000
How long will it take?
Are we talking about five years?
1128
01:20:58,041 --> 01:21:00,541
Are we talking about ten years?
I hope it's five,
1129
01:21:00,583 --> 01:21:04,000
when we see the last animal
product taken off the shelf
1130
01:21:04,041 --> 01:21:09,083
and replaced with a biologically derived,
clean version of that product,
1131
01:21:09,125 --> 01:21:11,958
whether it's meat or whether it's milk
or whether it's eggs.
1132
01:21:14,291 --> 01:21:17,541
Not far away,
in a space for DIY biology,
1133
01:21:17,583 --> 01:21:22,333
a group of biohackers is working on what
most people say they could never give up:
1134
01:21:22,375 --> 01:21:24,458
cheese.
1135
01:21:24,500 --> 01:21:26,916
Real Vegan Cheese
is a project
1136
01:21:26,958 --> 01:21:28,833
to basically make cheese
1137
01:21:28,875 --> 01:21:31,541
that is exactly like
cow's milk cheese,
1138
01:21:31,583 --> 01:21:35,875
or any other animal cheese,
but make it without
using animals.
1139
01:21:35,916 --> 01:21:39,916
And so the way we do this is
we search databases
1140
01:21:39,958 --> 01:21:45,458
that give us the sequence of DNA
which encodes for the proteins in milk.
1141
01:21:45,500 --> 01:21:49,666
We then take that information
and go to a synthesis service
1142
01:21:49,708 --> 01:21:51,625
that makes us
that snippet of DNA.
1143
01:21:51,666 --> 01:21:53,791
We put it into yeast.
1144
01:21:53,833 --> 01:21:56,625
That yeast then starts
producing that protein.
1145
01:21:56,666 --> 01:21:59,833
So now these yeasts
are sort of like our dairy.
1146
01:21:59,875 --> 01:22:02,291
Sort of like,
instead of milking cows,
1147
01:22:02,333 --> 01:22:04,791
we're actually just getting
these proteins out of the yeast.
1148
01:22:04,833 --> 01:22:07,291
This is important because
these proteins
1149
01:22:07,333 --> 01:22:10,583
are what give milk all of its
really interesting properties
1150
01:22:10,625 --> 01:22:13,416
and what gives cheese the properties
that you associate with cheese.
1151
01:22:13,458 --> 01:22:16,500
Things like meltability,
stretchability, that texture.
1152
01:22:16,541 --> 01:22:19,208
Those proteins are
the most important thing.
1153
01:22:19,250 --> 01:22:21,208
So that's what the project is.
1154
01:22:21,250 --> 01:22:23,791
It's taking yeast and making
these exact same proteins
1155
01:22:23,833 --> 01:22:27,208
so we can make real cheese
which is also vegan.
1156
01:22:29,250 --> 01:22:31,458
What we get out,
if we do our job well,
1157
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:33,125
is exactly like
what the cows produce.
1158
01:22:33,166 --> 01:22:34,875
The protein is identical.
1159
01:22:34,916 --> 01:22:37,791
So once it's purified, this
is not genetically modified.
1160
01:22:37,833 --> 01:22:39,541
It's a natural product.
1161
01:22:41,916 --> 01:22:45,000
So our future plans,
once we can make cheese
1162
01:22:45,041 --> 01:22:47,833
out of our
yeast-cultured proteins,
1163
01:22:47,875 --> 01:22:52,916
are to file intellectual property,
file a patent on this,
1164
01:22:52,958 --> 01:22:56,000
but then abandon it, so that
it is in the public record,
1165
01:22:56,041 --> 01:22:58,541
it is prior art but we don't
own any rights to it.
1166
01:22:58,583 --> 01:23:01,916
You could imagine that
if someone like, uh...
1167
01:23:01,958 --> 01:23:04,958
someone who is also involved
in the dairy industry directly,
1168
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,916
if they developed this
and owned all the IP,
1169
01:23:07,958 --> 01:23:10,958
they could make a few products
just for vegans
1170
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,125
but they could preventsomeone else
from pushing it far enough
1171
01:23:14,166 --> 01:23:16,375
that it would challenge
their existing business.
1172
01:23:16,416 --> 01:23:20,500
So we don't want someone
who has an interest in dairy continuing
1173
01:23:20,541 --> 01:23:23,416
to own all
of the rights to this.
1174
01:23:23,458 --> 01:23:26,208
If it's open source,
no one can do that.
1175
01:23:29,041 --> 01:23:31,958
While I was
researching future foods,
1176
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,666
I came across a recent
discovery by scientists
1177
01:23:34,708 --> 01:23:36,208
from the University of Oregon.
1178
01:23:36,250 --> 01:23:38,583
They said they had found
the unicorn,
1179
01:23:38,625 --> 01:23:40,958
an algae that
is healthier than kale
1180
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,666
and when deep fried,
tastes like bacon.
1181
01:23:47,208 --> 01:23:50,666
We started out
with about 40 or so ideas.
1182
01:23:50,708 --> 01:23:55,958
And today I have three
of the five that we tested.
1183
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:00,791
This here is a rice cracker. These are
going to be a little bit more savory
1184
01:24:00,833 --> 01:24:05,041
and bring out a little bit of that
umami taste that's in the seaweed.
1185
01:24:05,083 --> 01:24:07,375
And then this is just
kind of an interesting way
1186
01:24:07,416 --> 01:24:10,708
to use a bit of the salt
that you would find
1187
01:24:10,750 --> 01:24:13,041
in kind of those ocean tastes.
1188
01:24:13,083 --> 01:24:15,250
Dulse is a bit
of a novel ingredient
1189
01:24:15,291 --> 01:24:17,958
that many people in America
aren't very familiar with,
1190
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,458
outside of sushi
or seaweed salads.
1191
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:23,291
So it's nice to kind of be
at the forefront
1192
01:24:23,333 --> 01:24:27,125
of getting this ingredient
into kind of the mainstream.
1193
01:24:30,750 --> 01:24:35,375
You know, in 2025, there will be
7 1/2 billion people on Earth.
1194
01:24:35,416 --> 01:24:37,375
And every human being
1195
01:24:37,416 --> 01:24:41,208
needs roughly 50 grams
of protein a day to live,
1196
01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:46,583
so the world's gonna demand 400 million
grams of carbohydrates a day.
1197
01:24:46,625 --> 01:24:50,666
And we figured out that,
at least with this dulse,
1198
01:24:50,708 --> 01:24:53,875
if we had a 25 by 25 mile
stretch in the ocean
1199
01:24:53,916 --> 01:24:55,833
off the Oregon coast,
1200
01:24:55,875 --> 01:24:58,750
we could grow enough protein
to feed the world, just like that.
1201
01:24:58,791 --> 01:25:02,125
So the potential
is extremely large.
1202
01:25:07,708 --> 01:25:12,333
Uh, well, people got very interested
in the dulse story
1203
01:25:12,375 --> 01:25:14,875
because of its link to bacon,
1204
01:25:14,916 --> 01:25:18,458
and the fact that it has
some of the flavors of bacon
1205
01:25:18,500 --> 01:25:22,583
and is also nutritionally
much better for you than bacon,
1206
01:25:22,625 --> 01:25:25,583
it doesn't have the cholesterol
and the high-fat content,
1207
01:25:25,625 --> 01:25:28,000
makes it very appealing
to people.
1208
01:25:35,500 --> 01:25:38,500
Ah, how are the dulse looking?
1209
01:25:38,541 --> 01:25:41,125
Ah. Looking good.
1210
01:25:41,166 --> 01:25:43,958
Yeah. That's fantastic.
1211
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,375
Bubbling away.
1212
01:25:47,708 --> 01:25:52,000
So these are
our 6,000-liter tanks.
1213
01:25:52,041 --> 01:25:56,208
So we're hoping to produce about
30 pounds of dulse per week
1214
01:25:56,250 --> 01:25:57,750
from these tanks.
1215
01:26:00,750 --> 01:26:04,541
What we found with dulse
is that it grows vegetatively.
1216
01:26:04,583 --> 01:26:08,375
So what you can do is you can
basically break a plant apart
1217
01:26:08,416 --> 01:26:11,166
and each piece will grow
into a new plant.
1218
01:26:11,208 --> 01:26:13,458
So it's very, very easy to grow,
1219
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:15,416
and this is one
of the great benefits
1220
01:26:15,458 --> 01:26:18,791
of this type of cultivation.
1221
01:26:20,583 --> 01:26:23,250
It has a good protein content,
1222
01:26:23,291 --> 01:26:25,583
high iodine, high potassium.
1223
01:26:25,625 --> 01:26:29,250
And so in many respects,
it is a superfood.
1224
01:26:31,375 --> 01:26:34,541
It has a lot of potential,
I think, in the long-term future
1225
01:26:34,583 --> 01:26:38,416
as an alternative
to some of these other terrestrial crops,
1226
01:26:38,458 --> 01:26:41,500
and also an alternative to meat.
1227
01:26:41,541 --> 01:26:44,541
So the amino acid profile
is pretty good,
1228
01:26:44,583 --> 01:26:46,500
and it has the savory flavor,
1229
01:26:46,541 --> 01:26:51,166
so I think there's
a very good potential for it.
1230
01:27:08,458 --> 01:27:12,500
So, what we
are doing, we are taking
a small sample from a cow.
1231
01:27:12,541 --> 01:27:17,541
Use its muscle-specific
stem cells
1232
01:27:17,583 --> 01:27:20,583
that have sort of a limited
capacity to proliferate.
1233
01:27:20,625 --> 01:27:23,958
That means that we have to go back
to the cow after a certain period
1234
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,125
and get new stem cells.
1235
01:27:26,166 --> 01:27:29,291
And then it's not a completely
animal-free product,
1236
01:27:29,333 --> 01:27:32,750
but I don't really think
that's that important.
1237
01:27:32,791 --> 01:27:35,666
Maybe for vegans it is,
but for most people, it may not be.
1238
01:27:35,708 --> 01:27:39,000
Still we would be able,
and that's obviously the condition,
1239
01:27:39,041 --> 01:27:42,166
we would be able to reduce
the total number of cows tremendously.
1240
01:27:42,208 --> 01:27:47,791
Even if it will not reduce
energy consumption,
1241
01:27:47,833 --> 01:27:51,750
then it will still reduce
methane emission,
1242
01:27:51,791 --> 01:27:55,875
so it will still have an effect on
our greenhouse gas emission.
1243
01:27:55,916 --> 01:27:58,208
But we are more ambitious
than that.
1244
01:27:58,250 --> 01:28:00,875
We really want to reduce
energy consumption as well.
1245
01:28:02,583 --> 01:28:04,375
I'm saying that there's
nothing in it,
1246
01:28:04,416 --> 01:28:06,625
but that's not completely true.
1247
01:28:06,666 --> 01:28:08,041
There is...
1248
01:28:08,083 --> 01:28:11,416
Oh, this is just
a small-scale cell culture,
1249
01:28:11,458 --> 01:28:13,125
but it's tiny.
1250
01:28:13,166 --> 01:28:17,958
Tiny muscle rings
in these little wells.
1251
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,875
We are never, with
this cultured beef program,
1252
01:28:20,916 --> 01:28:22,875
are never going to be
as efficient
1253
01:28:22,916 --> 01:28:25,708
and as friendly
to the environment
1254
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:29,291
or to animals as a vegetarian
or a vegan diet.
1255
01:28:29,333 --> 01:28:33,416
We will never achieve
that level of efficiency.
1256
01:28:33,458 --> 01:28:38,041
So if vegetarians and vegans
start to eat this,
1257
01:28:38,083 --> 01:28:41,208
that's sort of the opposite
of what my goal is
1258
01:28:41,250 --> 01:28:43,208
in this whole endeavor.
1259
01:28:46,833 --> 01:28:49,166
The target group
is pretty much myself,
1260
01:28:49,208 --> 01:28:53,125
the people who are
stubbornly eating meat,
1261
01:28:53,166 --> 01:28:55,750
while knowing that they
probably should not.
1262
01:28:57,791 --> 01:29:00,208
If at some point we are capable
1263
01:29:00,250 --> 01:29:02,875
of producing
exactly the same tissue,
1264
01:29:02,916 --> 01:29:05,666
exactly the same sort
of sensory quality of meat,
1265
01:29:05,708 --> 01:29:08,166
at a competitive price,
1266
01:29:08,208 --> 01:29:13,666
I think it will eradicate
traditional livestock meat production.
1267
01:29:19,541 --> 01:29:21,916
It's
absolutely imperative
1268
01:29:21,958 --> 01:29:24,291
that people recognize
1269
01:29:24,333 --> 01:29:29,125
that one of the worst practices
ever developed on the planet
1270
01:29:29,166 --> 01:29:33,166
was this consumption of other animals
for food and using them for resources,
1271
01:29:33,208 --> 01:29:36,000
and we're never going to get
our societies back on track
1272
01:29:36,041 --> 01:29:38,583
unless we step back
from that practice,
1273
01:29:38,625 --> 01:29:41,208
and we can begin
to do that, first of all,
1274
01:29:41,250 --> 01:29:42,833
by changing the way that we eat.
1275
01:29:42,875 --> 01:29:45,291
Nothing serious
is going to change
1276
01:29:45,333 --> 01:29:49,291
until there's just a catastrophe
that forces us to change.
1277
01:29:49,333 --> 01:29:53,375
And my best guess,
it would be something related to the...
1278
01:29:53,416 --> 01:29:56,041
It could be an issue
about tainted food,
1279
01:29:56,083 --> 01:29:58,875
but more likely it's going to be
an environmental catastrophe
1280
01:29:58,916 --> 01:30:02,541
that we just realize that
we're killing the planet, and then...
1281
01:30:02,583 --> 01:30:05,166
we'll be forced to engage
in some radical rethinking,
1282
01:30:05,208 --> 01:30:06,958
not because we suddenly care
about animals
1283
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,040
but just because we're
destroying our own existence.
1284
01:30:11,166 --> 01:30:14,250
Reflecting on
my search for a post-meat world,
1285
01:30:14,291 --> 01:30:18,041
the resource-intensive methods
of animal production seem outdated,
1286
01:30:18,083 --> 01:30:21,083
especially in the light
of the challenges
1287
01:30:21,125 --> 01:30:23,500
we'll face in the near
and far future.
1288
01:30:23,541 --> 01:30:26,583
What we eat has
tangible consequences,
1289
01:30:26,625 --> 01:30:28,208
for the world around us
1290
01:30:28,250 --> 01:30:31,458
and for the trillions
of nonhuman animals.
1291
01:30:31,500 --> 01:30:33,500
The end of meat as we know it
1292
01:30:33,541 --> 01:30:36,000
might just be
the best solution we have
1293
01:30:36,041 --> 01:30:40,208
to save ourselves,
the animals and the planet.
1294
01:30:43,083 --> 01:30:47,083
Of course, if we're talking
about stopping meat overnight,
1295
01:30:47,125 --> 01:30:51,000
that would be a problem because overnight
we'd have lots of people going jobless.
1296
01:30:51,041 --> 01:30:54,000
But the truth is that
all industries evolve.
1297
01:30:54,041 --> 01:30:56,125
Everything changes.
1298
01:30:56,166 --> 01:30:59,291
If you talk to people about
cars coming, for example,
1299
01:30:59,333 --> 01:31:02,597
everybody would be worrying, what's
going to happen to the horse carriages?
1300
01:31:02,622 --> 01:31:06,122
Right? But it doesn't happen overnight,
thankfully, and everybody adapts.
1301
01:31:30,833 --> 01:31:32,833
♪
1302
01:31:55,416 --> 01:31:58,333
There is
a vision of the future
1303
01:31:58,375 --> 01:32:01,958
that doesn't include
the exploitation of animals.
1304
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:06,333
You don't get somewhere
unless you envision it.
1305
01:32:06,375 --> 01:32:09,083
And people really seem
to have trouble envisioning
1306
01:32:09,125 --> 01:32:12,125
this world without
animal exploitation.
1307
01:32:12,166 --> 01:32:15,083
We've always done it, so we'll
always continue to do it.
1308
01:32:15,125 --> 01:32:17,041
But if you take a step back
1309
01:32:17,083 --> 01:32:19,791
and look at where technology is,
1310
01:32:19,833 --> 01:32:22,541
what we do to animals
is just insane.
1311
01:32:31,750 --> 01:32:35,208
The first time I had
visited a farm animal sanctuary,
1312
01:32:35,250 --> 01:32:37,125
blew my mind.
1313
01:32:37,166 --> 01:32:39,125
There was nothing like it.
1314
01:32:39,166 --> 01:32:42,625
I could not believe, not only what
I was learning at the time
1315
01:32:42,666 --> 01:32:45,000
about the sheer number
of farmed animals
1316
01:32:45,041 --> 01:32:48,208
who suffer and who are killed
for human consumption,
1317
01:32:48,250 --> 01:32:50,583
but then to get to know them
1318
01:32:50,625 --> 01:32:53,583
and to realize that
these are the individuals
1319
01:32:53,625 --> 01:32:56,375
who make up those statistics,
1320
01:32:56,416 --> 01:32:58,375
and the statistics
can be staggering,
1321
01:32:58,416 --> 01:33:00,500
but it's even more overwhelming
1322
01:33:00,541 --> 01:33:03,166
when you get to know
the victims.
1323
01:33:03,208 --> 01:33:06,041
And that affects me
to every cell of my being,
1324
01:33:06,083 --> 01:33:09,458
because this is the social
justice movement of our times.
1325
01:33:09,500 --> 01:33:12,166
It affects the most
number of beings.
1326
01:33:16,708 --> 01:33:19,208
Twenty years from now,
we will look back
1327
01:33:19,250 --> 01:33:21,416
with a completely
different perspective
1328
01:33:21,458 --> 01:33:23,958
and our kids will say
to each other,
1329
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,041
"Well, you know,
in the days of our parents,
1330
01:33:27,083 --> 01:33:31,166
they still killed animals
for our food supply."
1331
01:33:31,208 --> 01:33:35,041
And they will probably look
at that as sort of barbarian.
1332
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,000
♪
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