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It... It's a bit
of a walk, you know,
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from, you know, back by
the drummer over here.
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That walk to the front is...
is complicated.
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Singing background remains
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a somewhat unheralded
position, you know.
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So people make that leap.
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So, what you guys
do on that part?
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♪ I'll help you carry on
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It's almost more of
a mental leap than...
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than just the
physical act of singing.
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It's a conceptual leap,
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and if you can comfortably
come up with it, you know,
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then you may
find a spot out there.
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♪ Carry on for...
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But I know
tremendous backup singers
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who just aren't comfortable
in that position.
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You gotta have that narcissism,
you gotta have that ego.
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So shall we do it?
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It can be
a pretty long walk.
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One, two, three!
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There's a power
to what it is that we do.
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No one till right now has
publicly acknowledged it,
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but people love to see
the background singers.
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I mean, when you think about
Lou Reed, "Walk On The Wild Side,"
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you know, that iconic song with the line
that makes a lot of people uncomfortable
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because it says "colored girls. "
But what is he... what is he referencing
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when he says, "And the colored
girls say do-do-do-do-do?"
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The fact that there's
a power to these women
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that stand on stage
and sing with these guys.
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Backup singers just bring so
much more life to the situation.
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When a voice opens up,
there comes the life.
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That's when it's a
person-to-person connection.
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♪ What about the time
you were rolling over?
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♪ You fall on your face
and you must be having fun
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♪ Backsliding
How do you do?
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You don't hold on necessarily
to your individual vocal persona.
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♪ God help us
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'Cause you're trying
to get your persona
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to blend and mesh with the other voices.
That's awesome.
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- ♪ What's the matter with him?
- ♪ He's all right
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- ♪ How do you know?
- ♪ The Lord won't mind
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- ♪ Don't play no games
- ♪ He's all right
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♪ Love from the bottom
to the top
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- ♪ Turn like a wheel
- ♪ He's all right
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♪ See for yourself...
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There's something that
happens when you lock in with somebody
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and all the harmonics ping,
and, I mean,
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if you don't like that,
what do you like?
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♪ Cool down
Stop acting crazy
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♪ They're gonna leave
and we'll be on our own
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I could... I could be different people,
a chameleon, you know.
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It's just like you could change up.
You're never bored.
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I'm a part of the sisterhood.
I got to earn this.
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It wasn't just a dream that I had
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I actually got to sing
these songs and sing on key.
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- ♪ Like a wheel
- ♪ He's all right
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- ♪ See for yourself
- ♪ The Lord won't mind
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- ♪ We're gonna move
- ♪ Right now
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♪ Turn like a wheel
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As a background singer,
they would like you to come in,
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make things sound great,
take very little credit...
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and go home quickly.
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♪ It's all right
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♪ The Lord won't mind
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♪ Right now
Turn like a wheel
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♪ Inside a wheel
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Thank you, Jesus.
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Thank you, Father.
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♪ I will enter His gates
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♪ With thanksgiving in my heart
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♪ I will enter His courts with praise
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God gave us the ability
to create, didn't he?
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- Yes, he did.
- OK.
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Today we're gonna pin
this down to music.
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♪ He has made me glad
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♪ I will rejoice for He has made me glad
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I see these kids doing this
slide, I said, "Oh, child. "
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He think he got that
from, uh... James Brown.
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I said, "Oh, that came
from one of my pastors. "
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♪ He has made me glad
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♪ I will rejoice for
He has made me glad
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- My father was a minister.
- My father was a...
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- My father was a...
- Pastor's daughter.
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- Isn't that cliché?
- That's how I was actually
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- introduced to music.
- I started as a four-year-old.
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All through grammar school.
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♪ I will say this is the day
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You come up learning the part
that your voice actually fits in.
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Nobody tells you that's how singers
learn how to do background.
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Hallelujah, glory, glory.
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Thank you, Lord.
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Thank you, Lord.
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God gave me this talent
and I intend to use it.
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And that's what my life
has really been all about,
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trying to make a success
of the gift that I have.
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Darlene Love is the one
that's the cause of all of this.
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Darlene Love and Fanita
James, The Blossoms.
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They were the first black
background singers
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working in the studios.
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♪ Silver and gold
Silver and gold
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♪ Everyone's searching
for silver and gold...
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When we first got into recordings,
it was totally white.
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♪ You'll never find comfort
in silver and gold...
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They were all white girls,
and they were very tasteful.
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They could do arm movements
and they could, you know,
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get in and go...
go to the microphone
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and come out of the microphone,
but that was about it.
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♪ Silver and gold, everyone's searching
Suppose silver and gold
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Because it was white singers.
We call them the readers.
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They couldn't do nothing without
that music sitting right in their face.
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People would see us walk in.
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They wondered what
we were doing there.
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They handed us our music and
we took it like we was pros too,
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like we would really read this.
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Then as you got
more into the music,
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people would want background
singers that were free enough
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to put feeling in what
they were singing.
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Not saying that
those singers back then
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didn't have feeling, but they were
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committed to what
they saw on the paper.
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♪ In silver and gold ♪
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- ♪ Shimmy, shimmy to and fro
- ♪ Oh, yeah
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♪ Shimmy, shimmy to and fro...
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The song that was
coming from them was so raw.
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That's what it...
it was so raw, and so real,
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that it was hard to deny it.
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♪ Shimmy shimmy
It's the dance of the day
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♪ Shimmy shimmy
It's new this day
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♪ Shimmy shimmy's
gonna help us too
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♪ With mama and papa
and you know who
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♪ Shimmy shimmy in my soul
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♪ Shimmy shimmy
We'll never grow old
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Now this is a surprise!
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This is history.
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None of us have sung
together in 30, 40 years.
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I was 15 when I first met them.
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- Ain't that something? Fifteen.
- That's not funny.
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That's not funny.
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But we were really white
before you got in,
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- and then you added it...
- We had a sweet sound.
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She brought guts and...
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that bottom gospel thing
and it made it perfect.
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- ♪ Shimmy shimmy
- ♪ Oh, yeah
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They made that platform theirs.
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The Blossoms made it theirs,
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and when they came in,
every producer in California
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and everywhere else, that's the sound
they wanted. That was from The Blossoms.
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All you had to do is tell them
in what direction you were headed,
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and they took you there.
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- See when we had to sound white?
- Yeah, uh-huh.
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♪ I met him on a Monday
and my heart my stood still
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♪ Da-do-ron-ron-ron
Da-do-ron-ron
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What was unique about
The Blossoms, we could change our sound.
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We worked with people
from Buck Owens to James Brown.
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♪ Yes, my heart stood still
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♪ Yes, his name was Bill
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♪ And when he walked me home
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♪ Da-do-ron-ron-ron
Da-do-ron-ron ♪
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That was perfect,
without even rehearsing.
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The amazing thing about
Darlene and Fanita and Jean
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is that they weren't afraid
of anybody else that did what they did.
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And if that producer
asked for a particular person
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that could do something,
Darlene would say,
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"That's not what I do,
but I know a girl that can do it. "
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And that's how she'll get in,
and that's how Merry got in.
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Can you turn off the radio?
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There...
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I mean, how could you not have music on,
Morgan, in the Merry Clayton car?
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- I know, right?
- That's just...
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That's not even logical to me.
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See, it's much better
for us to add the music later.
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I know it, but I'm just saying,
Morgan, how could you...
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How could you logically not
have a diva have her music on?
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I don't get that.
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Merry Clayton was always
the lead background singer,
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but she was always a little
set apart from that group.
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♪ Well, I am a sister
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♪ Who can sing
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♪ I am a sister who can sing
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♪ Oh, but if I die
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♪ And my soul be lost
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♪ Nobody's fault but mine
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I started going
to summer school with Merry,
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and she'd start singing down
the street, and I'd go like,
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"This girl is amazing. "
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♪ Nobody's fault but mine
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♪ Said nobody's fault
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♪ Nobody's fault but mine
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♪ I said that no one's fault
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- ♪ If I die...
- She had no, uh,
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no hidden agendas about it.
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She just, "That's what I do. "
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♪ Oh, if I die
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♪ And my soul be lost, yeah
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♪ Nobody's fault
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♪ But mine
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♪ Nobody's fault ♪
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Ray Charles.
He was the only artist
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that my father would
allow us to go and see,
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and I'd stand at the end of the
stage with my hand under my chin.
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I'd say, "Mm-hmm, I could do this.
I'm gonna be a Raelette one day. "
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I willed myself to be a Raelette.
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Now here are the Raelettes
to help us from this portion on.
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Mm!
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So I was sitting
at home one day,
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and I got a call from Billy Preston.
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"This Bill, what are you doing?"
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"Putting some clothes away. "
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"You gotta drop it and you
have to come and sing for Ray. "
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Oh
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♪ When you see me in misery
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♪ Come on, baby
See about me now
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♪ No, it don't matter
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And, of course, you know,
I was totally full of myself by then.
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I knew the whole spectrum of what you
were supposed to do as a singer.
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♪ See the girl
with the red dress on
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♪ She can filly dog all night long
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But I didn't know anything
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about being an entertainer.
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- ♪ Hey
- ♪ Hey
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- ♪ Ho
- ♪ Ho
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- ♪ Hey, ho
- ♪ Hey, ho
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♪ Oh, it's all right
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♪ You know it's all right, baby
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He said,
"Yes, you're a lead singer,
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but you're singing with
three other ladies, Sister Merry.
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So we're gonna teach you
how to sing
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- with three other people. "
- ♪ You know it's all right
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♪ It's all right
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He's the minister.
The Raelettes are the choir.
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He brings that same church format
to playing popular music.
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Yet he's singing about sex.
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- ♪ Shake that thing
- ♪ Shake that thing
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- ♪ Hey, baby
- ♪ Shake that thing
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Can you imagine
"What'd I Say" that I said already,
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without kind of an answer to that?
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♪ Mmm
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♪ Oooh
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♪ Uhh... uhh...
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- ♪ Shake that thing
- ♪ Shake it, baby
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- ♪ Shake that thing
- ♪ Shake that thing ♪
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He did a song called
"Together Again. "
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Oh, Lord, I could not
find the second part.
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I couldn't hear it.
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I did not hit the note,
he took his finger
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and banged out my note
on the piano,
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and 5,000 people
were in the audience,
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five... huge show in
Madison Square Garden somewhere.
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Bang, bang, bang, bang.
He banged out this note.
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After that, I remembered everything.
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I was not gonna be made
to look like a fool.
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- ♪ Baby, let's go home
- ♪ Yeah, let's go home
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- ♪ Baby, let's go home
- ♪ Go home, baby
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- ♪ Baby, let's go home ♪
- Oh!
256
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A lot of background
singers are just background singers.
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They don't wanna do all the drama that
accompanies trying to be a solo artist.
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Actually, very interesting, if you're
talking about background singers,
259
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because Lisa made recordings
as a solo artist
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and she's a brilliant entertainer.
She's really funny.
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Sings her butt off.
Could sing alone all day long,
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but doesn't particularly want to.
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Hola.
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I don't wanna go to school.
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I remember when my mom
took me to kindergarten.
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I told the teacher, it's like,
"I wrote a song," right?
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"I wanna sing it for the class. "
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She's like, "Oh, yay, good. "
I just wouldn't stop.
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She had to stop me.
Now she's like, "That was fun. "
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Being with Lisa
is really inspiring,
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because she's a monster musician.
She just doesn't really talk about it.
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I mean, she's as good as it gets.
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Everyone knew
who Lisa Fischer was.
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She was the talk of the town
at the time.
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It was strange for me to actually see
her standing next to two other singers.
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It was weird for me.
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She's an incredible artist that
stands in front of that room,
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in front of everyone, and demands their
attention in a really graceful way.
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I love melodies.
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I'm... I'm in love with the...
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the sound vibration and...
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and what it does with other people.
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It's familiar, but it's so special
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and you're just so happy
when you get there.
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And you try to stay there
for as long as you can.
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She's the
empress of that world,
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and, you know, it might not
look like she's ego'd out,
288
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but it takes a lot of ego to decide
you're gonna take that position.
289
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'Cause there's a lot of background
singers out there, and she's held...
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She's held that fort
down for a long time.
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For me,
singing is about a sharing.
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It's never a competition.
But there's this other energy sometimes
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that I see going on that just
makes me insane, you know.
294
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Gee, who can I call to introduce me
to so and so and such and such,
295
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but it just... I don't know,
something about that feels slimy to me.
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I don't know why.
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♪ Yeah ♪
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To me, there's no more heavenly
instrument than the voice.
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You can be a great player and you can
play things that really move people,
300
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but the voice is the one thing
that we all are born with.
301
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I mean, there's so many great singers
who are such a massive presence
302
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on so many rock records, people that we
don't necessarily know their names,
303
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but that had a huge impact.
304
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I remember, um, yeah, there
was a Phil Spector special on.
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Um, maybe '65-ish.
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♪ Every evening
when the sun goes down
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- ♪ Whoo
- Hold it. Cut.
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And Darlene Love and The
Blossoms were doing this song
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that Phil was playing piano on.
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♪ Every morning
when the sun goes down
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- ♪ Whoo
- ♪ Whoo
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♪ I lay my head
on the pillow down
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And I was like 16 maybe.
It just went, like, pow!
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That's what you're gonna do.
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- Here we go.
- Hey.
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- Hi, Darlene.
- Robert.
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How about, uh, "Christmas. "
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- ♪ Christmas
- ♪ Snow coming down
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- ♪ Christmas
- ♪ I'm watching it fall
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♪ Christmas
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Phil Spector
was the one that started
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with the Wall of Sound.
He wanted everybody to know
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it was a Phil Spector session,
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not a Darlene Love session
or a Crystals session.
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It was a Phil Spector session.
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♪ They're ringing a song
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- ♪ Christmas
- ♪ What a happy sound
328
00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:12,489
They sound so young. Well, they are.
I was 18. I am now 70.
329
00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:16,033
The Spector records...
330
00:21:16,192 --> 00:21:18,115
and it's funny, 'cause
though that was a sound
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we tried to capture ourselves
for many, many years.
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And did not, because we didn't realize
it was the sound of youth,
333
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of very young people.
334
00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:30,832
And here Darlene
not only had
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the incredible personality,
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but she was a vocal powerhouse.
She captures...
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Whatever it is, she captures
that particular sound, you know.
338
00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:42,350
Amazing, isn't it?
339
00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:46,856
I was talented
and didn't know it.
340
00:21:47,014 --> 00:21:49,608
When we went in to do
"He's a Rebel" I knew it was gonna be
341
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for a group he had in New York.
342
00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:53,938
And I went, "This song ain't
gonna do nothin' no way.
343
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Let's just go in, take the money. "
344
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And it was my first lead voice.
345
00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:02,496
♪ See the way he
walks down the street
346
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:06,159
♪ Watch the way he shuffles his feet
347
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:08,168
♪ My, he holds his head up high
348
00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:10,830
♪ When he goes walking by
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Darlene did a lot of ghosting
for records that came out
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with other people's names on them.
351
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♪ Not just one of the crowd
352
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The Crystals were out
on the road with Gene Pitney,
353
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and the record was climbing
the charts, going to number one
354
00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:28,139
and they had never
heard the song before.
355
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♪ He's a rebel and
he'll never be any good
356
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♪ He's a rebel 'cause he never
ever does what he should
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♪ But just because he doesn't
do what everybody else does
358
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♪ That's no reason why
I can't give him all my love
359
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It's pretty debilitating
to the spirit, I think,
360
00:22:47,658 --> 00:22:51,913
to sit at home and watch
the song that you sang,
361
00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:55,754
and there's someone else lip-synching
and no one knows that you did it.
362
00:22:55,916 --> 00:23:00,513
♪ That's no reason why
we can't share a love
363
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♪ He is always good to me...
364
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What hurt is when people
hear it on the radio
365
00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:07,012
and they go, "Wow, The Crystals.
That's a great song. "
366
00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:11,227
And they sitting there telling me that,
not knowing I did it.
367
00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:15,569
After the success of
"He's A Rebel,"
368
00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:17,480
that's when I said, "OK...
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He knows how to make hit songs,
370
00:23:19,315 --> 00:23:20,908
so now I need to sign with him. "
371
00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:22,739
First of all he changed my
name from Darlene Wright
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00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:25,075
to Darlene Love,
and my first record
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00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:26,864
was supposed to be
"He's Sure The Boy I Love. "
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00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:29,784
So we go into the studio.
I'm signed with him now.
375
00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:32,419
Everything is legal. We record
"He's Sure The Boy I Love,"
376
00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:35,001
and I'm tootling down
the street couple of months later
377
00:23:35,164 --> 00:23:37,792
and I hear the disc jockey say,
"Well, the new record by The Crystals. "
378
00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:41,633
And I'm going, "Crystals? What'd he do?
Fly them in?" He didn't tell us.
379
00:23:42,504 --> 00:23:48,136
No, it was my voice on "He's Sure
The Boy I Love. " So I was really pissed.
380
00:23:50,179 --> 00:23:54,104
You couldn't fit two stars
in the room at the same time,
381
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:57,440
so Phil Spector really
kept her in a box.
382
00:23:57,603 --> 00:23:59,697
The best material that she was
putting out
383
00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:01,698
wasn't even coming
out under her name.
384
00:24:01,857 --> 00:24:04,360
What did you think
after this song became a hit?
385
00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:06,995
Mad.
386
00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:10,158
'Cause this was
a Darlene Love record.
387
00:24:13,118 --> 00:24:18,375
I'm always amazed at how many
backup vocalists I've heard
388
00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:22,716
and I've encountered who kill me,
who I hear 'em and I think,
389
00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:25,802
"Man, you're as good as Chaka
Khan. " There's a lot of them.
390
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,184
You won't believe it, man.
Like, um...
391
00:24:28,342 --> 00:24:32,097
Tata Vega, who is an
unbelievably great vocalist
392
00:24:32,262 --> 00:24:35,482
and is up there with Aretha. I mean,
and... and I'm looking at that,
393
00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:38,190
and I'm thinking to myself,
"What're you doing?"
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00:24:38,352 --> 00:24:40,730
♪ Speak, Lord
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00:24:42,231 --> 00:24:44,905
♪ Speak to me
396
00:24:45,567 --> 00:24:49,572
♪ Oh, speak Lord
397
00:24:49,738 --> 00:24:52,708
♪ Won't you speak to me?
398
00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:55,915
I just loved music, is all.
399
00:24:56,078 --> 00:24:57,170
It's all I wanted to do.
400
00:24:57,329 --> 00:25:00,754
♪ I was so lost
401
00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:04,341
I was 16 and I said,
"I wanna go to California.
402
00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:09,555
I don't wanna go to school. I wanna be
a famous singer. " Very selfish.
403
00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,937
And my dad said, "All right. "
404
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:25,320
You had more of a opportunity
on the west coast.
405
00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:28,531
You had exposure.
406
00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:31,698
- Us growing up here in LA...
- Mm-hmm.
407
00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,617
- ... was really...
- Hollywood always
408
00:25:34,783 --> 00:25:36,456
right down the street.
409
00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:38,461
So we had serious advantage.
410
00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,372
Especially with the Motown people.
411
00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:41,756
- With the Motown...
- Yes.
412
00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:43,917
Oh, my God. But I remember
413
00:25:44,084 --> 00:25:46,052
too coming up, uh,
we would do the long sessions
414
00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:48,464
and we would be going
home in the morning.
415
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:50,553
- That's right.
- And people would be
416
00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:51,763
just going to work.
417
00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:58,270
Oh, my gosh, Stevie Wonder.
He was it for me.
418
00:25:58,432 --> 00:26:02,153
Tata Vega, uh... incredible voice.
419
00:26:02,311 --> 00:26:04,655
Somebody introduced me,
you know, "This is Tata Vega. "
420
00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:07,692
"Mm-hmm. Nice to meet you. "
And he kept going. I went,
421
00:26:07,858 --> 00:26:10,407
"OK, I gotta do something.
There's a piano. "
422
00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:12,663
The only four little teeny
chords I know.
423
00:26:12,821 --> 00:26:15,199
And I heard this girl
doing all these riffs and like,
424
00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:16,742
I said, "Oh, my God," you know.
425
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:20,880
He came back.
He said, "You sound like me. "
426
00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:23,461
Is that her? Is that the
same person? It's like...
427
00:26:23,624 --> 00:26:24,921
Yeah!
428
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:28,384
I just loved music is all.
429
00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:29,842
It's all I wanted to do.
430
00:26:31,173 --> 00:26:32,766
♪ Oh, listen
431
00:26:32,925 --> 00:26:36,646
♪ The world we know
was built on skill
432
00:26:36,804 --> 00:26:39,478
♪ That alone don't count
433
00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:43,527
♪ Ah, you know without the sweat
434
00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:47,906
♪ And toil of mind
it wouldn't be worth a dime
435
00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:50,568
It goes back, like I say,
to the church call and response.
436
00:26:50,734 --> 00:26:54,034
♪ Pull a fish from the water
to the people from the water
437
00:26:54,196 --> 00:26:57,575
♪ To the river to the bank
to the happy to the sad
438
00:26:57,741 --> 00:26:59,539
♪ Through the first
through the last
439
00:26:59,701 --> 00:27:02,750
There's that guy out front,
testifying,
440
00:27:02,913 --> 00:27:07,464
and then there's sorta the community
behind him, you know, amen'ing.
441
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,800
♪ Everybody, let's sing
Sing, sing
442
00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:14,763
♪ Well, everybody
Let's sing sing, sing, sing
443
00:27:14,925 --> 00:27:17,019
That was sort of
the backup sound
444
00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:20,727
that came straight out of gospel
and the church and was secularized.
445
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:23,688
That was a sound
of worldly knowledge.
446
00:27:29,148 --> 00:27:31,571
Ike Turner, oh my
goodness. Ike and Tina Turner.
447
00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,573
I just... I couldn't believe
448
00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:36,579
he asked me if I wanted to start
working right away.
449
00:27:36,738 --> 00:27:39,366
And I said,
"Well, yes, of course. "
450
00:27:39,533 --> 00:27:41,706
But little did I know
he meant that week.
451
00:27:47,791 --> 00:27:51,716
I think we were
the first action figures of R&B,
452
00:27:51,879 --> 00:27:54,007
The Ikettes,
453
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,892
the Ike and Tina Turner Review.
454
00:28:00,971 --> 00:28:03,224
The girls were
absolutely sensational.
455
00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:04,937
Tina was a force of nature,
of course,
456
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,727
but they were no slouches either.
457
00:28:06,894 --> 00:28:09,022
They were fantastic.
458
00:28:13,901 --> 00:28:16,245
It was what, peace, love
and happiness and, you know,
459
00:28:16,403 --> 00:28:18,997
women burning their bras,
you know, women's lib,
460
00:28:19,156 --> 00:28:24,128
and the timing was just right
for that way to present yourself.
461
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:39,928
- ♪ Oh!
- ♪ Oh, no
462
00:28:40,093 --> 00:28:42,346
Ike Turner saw
himself as a pimp,
463
00:28:42,512 --> 00:28:46,813
and he saw his backup singers,
even his wife...
464
00:28:46,975 --> 00:28:49,103
- ♪ I do what I wanna do
- ... as the women
465
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:50,646
who worked for him, his hos.
466
00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:51,904
♪ Do what you wanna
467
00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:53,111
♪ When you wanna
468
00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:55,150
♪ Now do your thing, soul sister
469
00:28:55,317 --> 00:28:58,992
He made sure
that you had a certain look
470
00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:01,748
and that you were able
to walk a certain way
471
00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:03,659
and dance a certain way.
472
00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:06,169
♪ Now I'm gonna try
473
00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:08,171
There are still
artists right now
474
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:10,628
that view a backup
singer as eye candy.
475
00:29:10,791 --> 00:29:13,544
Personally, that's not backup singing.
That's just playing a role.
476
00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:14,802
♪ Let me see you
477
00:29:14,962 --> 00:29:16,885
There's one artist
that I've worked with.
478
00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:21,226
I just get chills when I think
about how I just was so demoralized,
479
00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:25,390
um, at the office.
We were basically naked.
480
00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:29,401
Dress code:
"Make guys excite. "
481
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,027
♪ Let me see it
482
00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:32,979
♪ Let me see you
483
00:29:34,189 --> 00:29:35,486
♪ You and I
484
00:29:36,858 --> 00:29:38,610
You know, I tried to look nice
485
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:41,530
and I tried to carry myself
in a decent way,
486
00:29:41,697 --> 00:29:45,076
but how it comes across, I mean,
I don't set out to say,
487
00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:47,916
"I'm going to be
the sex symbol tonight. "
488
00:29:48,078 --> 00:29:49,796
But you posed in Playboy.
489
00:29:55,877 --> 00:29:58,801
There was something in
Playboy, yes, there was.
490
00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:21,199
The English rock scene
was just a... a phenomenon.
491
00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:22,863
They were trying
to sound black.
492
00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:25,533
Most all of them tried
to sound black.
493
00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:27,379
And the only way they
could get that sound,
494
00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:29,411
they had to use us
to get that sound.
495
00:30:29,578 --> 00:30:33,458
Like Led Zeppelin, for example.
Robert Plant or Joe Cocker even.
496
00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:36,634
♪ Once while traveling
497
00:30:36,793 --> 00:30:38,841
♪ Across the sky
498
00:30:40,464 --> 00:30:44,640
♪ This lovely planet
caught my eye
499
00:30:44,801 --> 00:30:47,725
Many years ago,
when I was singing with Ray,
500
00:30:47,888 --> 00:30:52,689
and I saw this guy contorting
in the front row of this concert.
501
00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:53,943
So I'm standing like this,
502
00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:55,524
and I'm telling the rest
of the girls through my teeth,
503
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,655
"Who is that guy?
What's wrong with him?"
504
00:30:57,814 --> 00:30:58,766
♪ Until we die
505
00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:09,661
♪ We're just learning to live together
506
00:31:09,826 --> 00:31:12,921
♪ Learning to live together
507
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,553
♪ Learning to live together till we die
508
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:21,179
But what I loved about
working with Joe
509
00:31:21,338 --> 00:31:24,433
is that he let us be ourselves.
510
00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:28,220
In England, they were like,
"Go for it.
511
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:30,515
Give us all you have. "
512
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,900
That... it was the reason for
the innovation of rock and roll.
513
00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:36,983
♪ Oooh
514
00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:40,615
♪ Ooh-hoo
515
00:31:40,774 --> 00:31:44,074
- ♪ Ooh
- ♪ Whoo!
516
00:31:45,278 --> 00:31:46,825
He gave us free rein,
517
00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:49,537
and everybody's face
would light up, you know.
518
00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:51,622
♪ Whoo!
519
00:31:51,785 --> 00:31:53,833
♪ Ooh
520
00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:55,997
And somebody would
start singing something,
521
00:31:56,164 --> 00:31:58,132
or someone would
start playing something
522
00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:00,134
and everybody just...
523
00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:06,142
♪ Until we die
524
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,019
♪ Well, we're learning to live together
525
00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:14,433
And then when I got to A&M, I was coming
down the stairs from Lou's office.
526
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,978
Joe was coming on the lot from
that front gate and he said,
527
00:32:18,145 --> 00:32:19,863
"There she bloody is. "
528
00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:22,399
He said, "I want you to
work on all of my records. "
529
00:32:24,901 --> 00:32:26,403
♪ Learning to live together
530
00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:28,072
At any moment, you would see
531
00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:30,332
James Taylor
coming down the hallway,
532
00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:33,915
or you'd see Carole coming out,
saying, "Come sing with me. "
533
00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:37,126
♪ Till we die ♪
534
00:32:41,001 --> 00:32:43,254
Let me in, honey, to my other home.
535
00:32:44,754 --> 00:32:46,756
Whoo!
536
00:32:54,556 --> 00:32:56,809
What a great studio.
537
00:32:56,975 --> 00:33:00,024
Boy, did we have some
times in this studio.
538
00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:09,989
So it was like very late at
night and I was very,
539
00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:11,623
you know, a little pregnant.
540
00:33:11,781 --> 00:33:13,829
Had curlers and the whole thing
in my hair,
541
00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:15,869
getting ready to go to bed.
And we got a call
542
00:33:16,036 --> 00:33:20,633
"Merry, there's a group of guys
in town called Rolling...
543
00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:23,589
The Rolling somebodies
and they're from England,
544
00:33:23,752 --> 00:33:27,507
and they need somebody
that will sing with them. "
545
00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:31,017
They picked me up
with silk pajamas on,
546
00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:34,806
a mink coat, and a
Chanel scarf on my head.
547
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:38,441
We said, "It'd be wonderful if
a woman sang this part about,
548
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,069
that I'd written about rape,
murder and all this.
549
00:33:41,228 --> 00:33:43,731
It was in the middle of the
night and we thought,
550
00:33:43,897 --> 00:33:45,615
"Well, we would love to
have a woman sing this part. "
551
00:33:45,774 --> 00:33:47,902
I didn't know her from Adam.
552
00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:49,490
Then she turned up
in her curlers.
553
00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:51,246
She was in bed
and she got outta bed.
554
00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:53,907
And, you know, it was
a kind of raunchy part to sing.
555
00:33:54,074 --> 00:33:55,917
I said, "What?
556
00:33:57,953 --> 00:34:01,048
Rape, murder?
It's just a shot away?"
557
00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:06,178
I started to sing: "it's just a shot
away, just a shot away" with Mick.
558
00:34:06,336 --> 00:34:09,465
She sings the lyrics right along me,
and with a lot of personality,
559
00:34:09,631 --> 00:34:10,848
which is what was needed.
560
00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:13,305
♪ Don't you worry
561
00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:17,223
♪ War, children
562
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:21,019
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
563
00:34:21,184 --> 00:34:26,237
What I liked was that she could sing.
She was able to be Merry.
564
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,367
She didn't have to bring it down.
565
00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:32,200
He said, "You wanna do another one?"
I said, "Sure, I'll do another one. "
566
00:34:32,362 --> 00:34:34,785
I mean, she just did it,
like, couple of times, you know.
567
00:34:34,948 --> 00:34:38,168
So I said to myself,
"Mm-hmm, I'm gonna do another
568
00:34:38,326 --> 00:34:40,829
and I'm gonna blow them
outta this room. "
569
00:34:42,497 --> 00:34:46,923
I went in again and I did that pass
on the part that says,
570
00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:49,838
♪ Rape, murder
Just a shot away
571
00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:52,053
So I had to go up another octave.
572
00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:57,972
♪ Rape, murder
573
00:34:58,138 --> 00:35:02,063
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
574
00:35:02,225 --> 00:35:05,980
♪ Rape, murder, yeah
575
00:35:06,146 --> 00:35:10,322
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
576
00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:13,703
- ♪ Rape, murder
- Whoo!
577
00:35:13,862 --> 00:35:18,083
♪ It's just a shot away
It's a just shot away
578
00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:21,620
♪ Yeah, yeah
579
00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:23,880
You know, you do these things
580
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:25,040
at sort of two in the morning,
581
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:27,709
and then you come in the next day
and you go, "Bloody hell, that's good. "
582
00:35:27,876 --> 00:35:31,801
Yeah. I don't hear
a hand clap.
583
00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:34,933
Everybody just tells me,
"You have to bring everything down. "
584
00:35:35,091 --> 00:35:37,435
So when the rock and roll
world came and said,
585
00:35:37,594 --> 00:35:41,098
"No, we want you to sing,"
it saved us.
586
00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:44,438
It saved us. Saved our lives.
587
00:35:54,569 --> 00:35:59,040
Lisa, let's practice that.
Lisa, let's do that.
588
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,201
Let's just...
just do the coda.
589
00:36:01,368 --> 00:36:05,919
So Vinnie, from the coda.
590
00:36:06,081 --> 00:36:09,130
Just the coda.
591
00:36:13,046 --> 00:36:14,798
♪ Mercury falling
592
00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:20,137
♪ I rise from my bed
593
00:36:23,598 --> 00:36:25,771
♪ Collect my thoughts together
594
00:36:29,771 --> 00:36:32,820
♪ But have to hold my head
595
00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:41,788
- ♪ Seems that she's gone
- ♪ Gone
596
00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:45,045
♪ Leaving me too soon
597
00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,752
During "The Hounds of Winter,"
I just indicated to Lisa
598
00:36:47,914 --> 00:36:50,337
that she should, you know,
vocalize and do something
599
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,800
to evoke the spirit
of loneliness.
600
00:36:56,798 --> 00:36:59,551
And out comes this voice,
you know, amazing,
601
00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:03,229
extraordinary, ghostly voice.
602
00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:05,811
So every time she's
performed that with me,
603
00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:08,352
I've asked her to do that.
604
00:37:10,895 --> 00:37:13,523
Lisa, give... you can
give me more than that.
605
00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:15,363
Really? OK.
606
00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:17,527
Give me something to play with.
607
00:37:17,694 --> 00:37:20,493
Let me reel you in.
608
00:37:24,451 --> 00:37:27,330
And I'm also intensely
proud of my band.
609
00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:32,092
My greatest pleasure is to stand back
and let them do what they can do.
610
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,093
And they kick into this song
called "Hounds of Winter,"
611
00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:35,754
and they go to this out vamp.
612
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,639
And Sting was cool
enough to say, "All right, go.
613
00:37:38,798 --> 00:37:40,846
Put a spotlight on her
and just turn her loose. "
614
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:25,350
Lisa Fischer.
615
00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:29,392
That's a powerhouse
voice, you know, and...
616
00:38:29,557 --> 00:38:32,356
I think of her as a star.
617
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,362
She's a star.
618
00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:44,164
She puts her whole
self into it and then
619
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:47,622
there's just something totally
transcendent that happens.
620
00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:58,466
You're a little feather,
621
00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:01,598
- and somebody just said...
- and you just go.
622
00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:09,973
You just go and you never fall.
623
00:39:10,139 --> 00:39:12,483
You never hit your head.
You just kinda land.
624
00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:15,270
That's what it feels like to me.
625
00:39:20,984 --> 00:39:23,203
The human voice is
the most pure expression
626
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:24,533
coming from your own being.
627
00:39:24,696 --> 00:39:29,076
There's nothing between your soul
and your ability and your body and them.
628
00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:32,416
It's not being camouflaged by a trumpet
or a saxophone or guitar.
629
00:39:32,579 --> 00:39:35,583
It's pure, and that's why
they're so sensitive about it,
630
00:39:35,748 --> 00:39:37,546
because they're putting it out there.
631
00:39:43,423 --> 00:39:45,346
Everything's a mess.
Sorry.
632
00:39:45,508 --> 00:39:49,763
Uh... everything's a mess.
It's just a mess.
633
00:39:49,929 --> 00:39:54,526
Uh, these are old gold albums
I haven't put up yet. Um...
634
00:39:54,684 --> 00:39:58,439
That's something from Tina Turner's tour
that was a gift from her.
635
00:39:58,605 --> 00:40:02,530
This is, um, an old poster
of Luther Vandross that I love.
636
00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:04,740
I met him right after that tour.
637
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:08,248
When I auditioned for him,
I walk into the room
638
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:10,784
and he's sitting around the
piano and there's this, um,
639
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:13,078
container with some
fried chicken in it.
640
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,214
I had to giggle.
I was just like, "Yeah!"
641
00:40:16,372 --> 00:40:18,750
- ♪ And the eagle
- ♪ And the eagle
642
00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:21,466
- ♪ And the eagle flies
- Oh...
643
00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:22,971
And he goes...
644
00:40:23,129 --> 00:40:26,303
♪ And the eagle flies ♪
645
00:40:26,466 --> 00:40:28,434
"Sing this for me. "
646
00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:30,220
And I would sing something to him.
647
00:40:30,386 --> 00:40:35,233
He's like, "OK, now can you
give that to me with more air?"
648
00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:38,315
And that was like, "More air?"
I was like, "OK."
649
00:40:38,478 --> 00:40:42,608
'Cause, you know, nobody was talking
about those subtleties, you know.
650
00:40:42,774 --> 00:40:44,947
A lot of his approach
was breath and air.
651
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:48,158
Sometimes the finesse of a note,
like... No turning back
652
00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:50,995
Like, the way you got
off a note... Back
653
00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:54,707
- One, two...
- ♪ And there's a rose
654
00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:58,089
I sounded just like that yesterday
when I was understudying the note.
655
00:40:58,247 --> 00:40:59,840
He really did.
656
00:41:00,541 --> 00:41:02,384
You know what I'm saying?
I was up there.
657
00:41:02,543 --> 00:41:04,716
- He was up there.
- It was me and John Glenn.
658
00:41:06,089 --> 00:41:09,059
After we were done singing,
he says, "Well, " he says,
659
00:41:09,217 --> 00:41:11,766
"if you can dance,
you've got this gig. "
660
00:41:11,928 --> 00:41:14,647
And I was like, "Yay!"
And then I was like, "Uh-oh. "
661
00:41:15,932 --> 00:41:18,902
Wait a minute.
Oh, I've got two left feet.
662
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:21,654
Lisa.
♪ Are you ready now?
663
00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:23,656
Hoo You sound nice
664
00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:25,567
- ♪ Say it twice
- ♪ Hoo, hoo
665
00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:27,986
♪ Are you ready?
Won't you tell me, doll?
666
00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:31,281
- ♪ Yeah
- ♪ Tell me and then tell me again
667
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:33,199
- ♪ Hoo, hoo
- ♪ Now do it...
668
00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:36,540
He knew how
to pull each gift together
669
00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:41,550
and make this beautiful...
piece of jewelry.
670
00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:44,302
- ♪ All the way
- ♪ All
671
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:47,805
You know, when I
was a kid buying records
672
00:41:47,964 --> 00:41:50,467
by The Shirelles, by Aretha Franklin,
by Dionne Warwick,
673
00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:53,682
one of the first things
that appealed to me
674
00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:58,021
were the background vocals,
and that remained with me.
675
00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:02,232
Luther was a background singer
and a jingle singer in New York.
676
00:42:02,395 --> 00:42:04,739
Back in those days,
Luther was very heavy
677
00:42:04,897 --> 00:42:08,071
and wore three-piece suits,
sweating like a pig,
678
00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:10,407
singing like an angel.
679
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:12,743
Luther Vandross,
when I first met Luther Vandross,
680
00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,704
I went down to Philadelphia,
David Bowie...
681
00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,792
David Bowie invited me down,
1973, to hear...
682
00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:22,377
He was recording
"Young Americans. "
683
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:25,464
And I had one record out
and he cut a couple of my songs,
684
00:42:25,626 --> 00:42:28,220
and so I was tremendously excited
685
00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:30,552
and I took the bus
to Philadelphia.
686
00:42:30,715 --> 00:42:33,639
And I went in the studio and I met David
and I met the band.
687
00:42:33,801 --> 00:42:35,929
And Luther Vandross
was one of the backup singers
688
00:42:36,095 --> 00:42:38,939
in David... David Bowie's
Young Americans band.
689
00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:41,476
My God, I can trot on that.
690
00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:44,065
♪ Time, giving it
691
00:42:44,228 --> 00:42:46,401
- ♪ Giving it
- ♪ Keeping it back
692
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,737
That's cool. That's cool.
OK, next one.
693
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,449
Gotta do it this way
to get it... One, two...
694
00:42:51,611 --> 00:42:53,909
Well, it was...
It was just fabulous, you know.
695
00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:57,667
And it was David Bowie's
soul record, in that sense,
696
00:42:57,825 --> 00:43:02,046
and he called on those voices that were
rooted in the church to bring that in,
697
00:43:02,205 --> 00:43:05,209
because they bring a world
with them, a world with them.
698
00:43:05,374 --> 00:43:08,548
♪ All night
699
00:43:08,711 --> 00:43:11,464
♪ All night
She wants the young American
700
00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:14,225
♪ Young American
Young American
701
00:43:14,383 --> 00:43:16,226
♪ She wants
the young American
702
00:43:18,221 --> 00:43:21,350
I believe that, you know,
the role of the backup singer
703
00:43:21,516 --> 00:43:23,109
evolves as music evolves.
704
00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:26,487
Music was becoming more
complicated and richer
705
00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:28,489
and more interesting
in the '70s,
706
00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:30,992
and so the backgrounds
became more sophisticated.
707
00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:35,405
It just became more than vocals.
It was the music.
708
00:43:35,571 --> 00:43:38,324
♪ All night
709
00:43:38,491 --> 00:43:40,914
♪ All night
She wants a young American
710
00:43:41,077 --> 00:43:42,499
♪ Young American
711
00:43:42,662 --> 00:43:44,142
And you
find yourself singing
712
00:43:44,288 --> 00:43:46,461
what the background singers sang,
713
00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:48,467
as much as what the lead singer sang.
714
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:51,675
♪ Mama's got cramps
and look at my hands shake
715
00:43:51,838 --> 00:43:54,466
♪ I heard the news today
Oh, boy
716
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,851
♪ I got a suite
and you got defeat
717
00:43:57,009 --> 00:44:00,013
♪ Ain't there a woman
I can sock on the jaw?
718
00:44:00,179 --> 00:44:02,432
♪ Ain't there a man
who can say no more?
719
00:44:02,598 --> 00:44:05,192
♪ Ain't there a child I can
hold without judging?
720
00:44:05,351 --> 00:44:07,945
♪ Ain't there a pen that will
write before they die?
721
00:44:08,104 --> 00:44:10,653
♪ Ain't you proud that
you've still got faces?
722
00:44:10,815 --> 00:44:15,366
♪ Ain't there one damn song
that can make me
723
00:44:15,528 --> 00:44:18,577
♪ Break down and cry?
724
00:44:18,739 --> 00:44:22,994
- ♪ All night
- ♪ All night
725
00:44:23,161 --> 00:44:27,337
You know, when you
think about the history of pop music
726
00:44:27,498 --> 00:44:30,502
and all the memorable hooks
that people sing along with,
727
00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:33,091
they're singing with us
most of the time,
728
00:44:33,254 --> 00:44:37,134
because that's what we do on records.
We come in and sing the hooks.
729
00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:58,572
♪ Wah-wah
730
00:44:58,738 --> 00:45:01,833
♪ You give me a wah-wah
731
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:06,955
That show was
just something that was cosmic.
732
00:45:08,915 --> 00:45:11,213
If you were there to experience it,
733
00:45:11,375 --> 00:45:14,720
it will be something
you'll take to the grave.
734
00:45:14,879 --> 00:45:18,850
♪ Wah-wah
735
00:45:25,306 --> 00:45:27,684
Claudia Lennear
had that exposure,
736
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:33,232
and then the next big moment came
for her with, um, The Rolling Stones.
737
00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:36,992
And Claudia Lennear, she was
like the really hot one of the...
738
00:45:37,151 --> 00:45:38,949
of the Ikettes, you know.
739
00:45:39,111 --> 00:45:42,615
She was a really great dancer,
very hot, beautiful girl.
740
00:45:42,782 --> 00:45:46,252
There were a few young
ladies in the background world
741
00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:50,040
who were trying to get to the
leading men as quickly as possible.
742
00:45:52,458 --> 00:45:56,088
You know, Mick and I
had a very special relationship,
743
00:45:56,254 --> 00:45:58,848
and we used to have so much fun.
744
00:45:59,006 --> 00:46:02,476
We used to have so much fun,
just doing silly things,
745
00:46:02,635 --> 00:46:06,811
dressing in each other's clothes.
Just crazy, wacky stuff.
746
00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:12,315
You know,
Mick has his bad boy image
747
00:46:12,478 --> 00:46:15,607
and David had his androgynous look,
748
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:19,152
but first and foremost,
they were just all really sweet.
749
00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:21,779
Well, anyway, she must have
enjoyed those times,
750
00:46:21,946 --> 00:46:23,823
because she looked like she was.
751
00:46:26,993 --> 00:46:30,873
♪ I don't need no wah-wah
752
00:46:33,624 --> 00:46:37,470
- ♪ Wah-wah
- ♪ And I know how sweet life can be
753
00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:40,632
At that particular time, there
was so much going on in the world,
754
00:46:40,798 --> 00:46:43,426
with the Civil Rights Movement
and the war.
755
00:46:43,592 --> 00:46:46,641
Though there was
so much politically going on,
756
00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:49,353
you know, you're pretty
insulated from it a lot of times
757
00:46:49,515 --> 00:46:52,519
and you only really find it out
758
00:46:52,685 --> 00:46:54,437
when you get out there
on the road,
759
00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:56,822
the places that you stay,
the people that you talk to.
760
00:46:56,981 --> 00:47:00,030
You're able to see the actual
politics and the culture,
761
00:47:00,192 --> 00:47:01,793
you know, what's going on
in the culture.
762
00:47:05,489 --> 00:47:10,461
It was weird. It was happy, musically,
but it was a sad time.
763
00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:13,338
One, two, three.
764
00:47:16,792 --> 00:47:18,135
Turn it up.
765
00:47:20,963 --> 00:47:22,806
I think Clydie King
called me for that session.
766
00:47:22,965 --> 00:47:25,718
She said, "There's this guy.
His name is Lynyrd Skynyrd. "
767
00:47:25,885 --> 00:47:30,061
I said, "Really?" She said,
"Yes, and he wants to do this song
768
00:47:30,222 --> 00:47:32,520
called 'Sweet Home A... “'
I said, "Alabama?
769
00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:35,027
Honey, nobody wants to sing
anything about Alabama. "
770
00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:37,564
I certainly didn't wanna sing
anything about Alabama.
771
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:41,075
♪ Well, I heard Mr. Young
sing about her
772
00:47:42,902 --> 00:47:45,906
♪ Well, I heard
ole Neil put her down
773
00:47:48,074 --> 00:47:50,873
♪ Well, I hope Neil Young
will remember
774
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,498
♪ A southern man
don't need him around
775
00:47:55,664 --> 00:47:58,338
It was a moment
when this idea of black power
776
00:47:58,501 --> 00:48:01,345
had a lot to do with people
defining themselves
777
00:48:01,504 --> 00:48:05,384
based on their own ideas,
as opposed to white overseer's view
778
00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:07,392
of how one should behave.
779
00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:09,474
We don't give a fuck
about whether or not
780
00:48:09,637 --> 00:48:11,677
white people are offended.
We're gonna do our thing.
781
00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:14,859
♪ Sweet home Alabama
782
00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:21,023
My husband was 19
years older than I was.
783
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:24,865
He said, "Oh, you need to sing
'Sweet Home Alabama. "'
784
00:48:25,027 --> 00:48:29,203
I said, "Well, why?" He says,
"You'll understand later in life. "
785
00:48:29,365 --> 00:48:32,289
He said, "Right now, you don't
understand, Merry. You're young.
786
00:48:32,451 --> 00:48:35,250
You don't... you don't
really understand. "
787
00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:41,045
♪ In Birmingham they love
the governor, boo-hoo-hoo
788
00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:43,383
♪ Now we all did what could do
789
00:48:44,839 --> 00:48:46,762
That's what we were doing,
we were living.
790
00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:50,519
We were living the moment,
living that emotion, creating.
791
00:48:50,678 --> 00:48:54,524
It was basically like a slap
in the face. A-ha, sweet home Alabama.
792
00:48:54,682 --> 00:48:56,184
We got your sweet home Alabama.
793
00:48:59,353 --> 00:49:04,029
But we gonna sing you anyway, and
we're gonna sing the crap out of you.
794
00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:15,957
If given the opportunity,
795
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,341
we will demonstrate our value
beyond any reasonable doubt,
796
00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:24,129
so much so that going forward,
when you start to define singing,
797
00:49:24,295 --> 00:49:27,469
it's going to be based on
this transformative sound
798
00:49:27,631 --> 00:49:29,850
coming out of these
backup singers' mouths.
799
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:41,980
My way of being an
activist in our struggle
800
00:49:42,146 --> 00:49:46,947
as a black people
was to do the music.
801
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:51,080
♪ Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord
It's the last line.
802
00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:56,712
♪ Lord lift us up
803
00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:04,839
♪ Where we belong
804
00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:10,133
♪ Where the eagles cry
805
00:50:10,299 --> 00:50:14,679
♪ On a mountain high
806
00:50:16,222 --> 00:50:18,600
♪ Lord lift us up
807
00:50:18,766 --> 00:50:22,771
♪ Where we belong
808
00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:28,868
♪ Up where the thrill below
809
00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:34,829
♪ Up where the free winds blow ♪
810
00:50:39,745 --> 00:50:41,918
Any song that you can name
with background on it,
811
00:50:42,081 --> 00:50:44,129
either I was doing it
with a bunch of girls,
812
00:50:44,291 --> 00:50:45,964
or either the Waters
were doing it.
813
00:50:46,126 --> 00:50:47,806
We always went
in the studio with,
814
00:50:47,962 --> 00:50:50,215
"God, we're on this song. "
815
00:50:50,381 --> 00:50:54,557
And we would always do our very
best, like it was ours.
816
00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:57,141
- Patti LaBelle.
- Patti LaBelle.
817
00:50:57,304 --> 00:50:59,064
- "You Are My Friend. "
- "You Are My Friend. "
818
00:50:59,098 --> 00:51:03,274
The Bad Girls album.
819
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:09,366
♪ Toot-toot, ahh, beep-beep
820
00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:12,119
That's when we really cleaned up.
821
00:51:12,278 --> 00:51:14,531
- Whitney Houston.
- Whitney Houston,
822
00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:15,789
"The Greatest Love of All. "
823
00:51:15,948 --> 00:51:18,326
- All those LPs.
- The Disney characters.
824
00:51:18,492 --> 00:51:20,335
- Yes.
- That's us on there,
825
00:51:20,494 --> 00:51:21,837
the "Small World," you know.
826
00:51:21,996 --> 00:51:23,964
- You hear all that singing.
- Lion King.
827
00:51:29,837 --> 00:51:32,215
- Uh-huh.
- Growing Pains.
828
00:51:32,381 --> 00:51:35,385
As long as we got
each other..
829
00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:36,927
The biggest selling record
830
00:51:37,094 --> 00:51:39,722
in the history of records,
Michael Jackson's Thriller.
831
00:51:42,850 --> 00:51:44,568
♪ 'Cause this is Thriller
832
00:51:44,727 --> 00:51:47,401
And the biggest
selling movie, Avatar.
833
00:51:47,563 --> 00:51:50,282
It's some bird sounds
and things like that.
834
00:51:50,441 --> 00:51:53,365
Stuff like that,
835
00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:56,872
you know, different things... But doing
this kinda just took us away
836
00:51:57,031 --> 00:51:59,159
from doing our own records, you know,
837
00:51:59,325 --> 00:52:00,926
and stuff like that,
which we used to do.
838
00:52:02,578 --> 00:52:05,377
Singing, you know,
oohs and aahs and...
839
00:52:05,539 --> 00:52:08,042
It's kinda fun for a minute.
Uh...
840
00:52:08,208 --> 00:52:10,049
I'm not sure if I'd like
to do it for a living.
841
00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:19,179
♪ I love you baby like
a flower loves the spring
842
00:52:19,345 --> 00:52:24,818
♪ And I love you baby
like a robin loves to sing
843
00:52:24,975 --> 00:52:29,981
♪ And I love you baby, like
the schoolboy loves to play
844
00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:32,900
♪ Oh, and I love you baby
845
00:52:33,067 --> 00:52:36,241
♪ River deep and mountain high
846
00:52:36,403 --> 00:52:38,244
Phil Spector's name
started getting big,
847
00:52:38,364 --> 00:52:39,581
my name started getting big,
848
00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:43,290
because the rock and roll people
like Bruce and Elton John
849
00:52:43,452 --> 00:52:46,376
and Stevie wanted to know
who that girl singer was.
850
00:52:46,538 --> 00:52:48,131
♪ I want you baby
851
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,971
I mean, she without question,
is a lead singer.
852
00:52:54,129 --> 00:52:55,631
You started to pick up that voice
853
00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:59,428
and you began
to have an allegiance to that voice.
854
00:52:59,593 --> 00:53:04,440
♪ River deep, mountain high
855
00:53:05,849 --> 00:53:09,069
♪ If I lost you, would I cry?
856
00:53:09,228 --> 00:53:13,984
That made me wanna be out there
by myself even more as a solo artist.
857
00:53:14,149 --> 00:53:17,995
♪ Baby, baby ♪
858
00:53:18,153 --> 00:53:22,124
I saw then I'd have to leave that group
to become a solo singer.
859
00:53:22,282 --> 00:53:23,704
Singing background, to me,
860
00:53:23,867 --> 00:53:27,087
it was like a rehearsal for what I was
gonna do for my project.
861
00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:32,297
I wanted to sing as Merry Clayton,
862
00:53:32,459 --> 00:53:37,511
to the masses. I wanted to get
my stuff out to the masses,
863
00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:39,892
and God sent me Lou Adler.
864
00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:51,070
Merry consciously wanted to be
a solo artist and a star.
865
00:53:52,438 --> 00:53:55,738
Whenever Merry appeared,
standing ovations.
866
00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:59,949
I mean, it's as if they never had seen
or heard someone like that.
867
00:54:00,112 --> 00:54:05,164
♪ Southern man
You'd better keep your head
868
00:54:05,325 --> 00:54:10,627
♪ Don't forget
what your good book said
869
00:54:10,789 --> 00:54:14,839
When it came to my project, I was
gonna kick ass and take names.
870
00:54:15,002 --> 00:54:19,508
♪ Southern man
When will you pay them back?
871
00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:22,643
♪ I heard screaming
872
00:54:22,801 --> 00:54:25,725
♪ Bullwhip cracking
873
00:54:25,888 --> 00:54:28,482
♪ How long? How long?
874
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,645
♪ How long?
Baby, how long?
875
00:54:32,811 --> 00:54:35,280
She made three
really good albums.
876
00:54:35,439 --> 00:54:38,739
They all sound like somebody
that's as big as Aretha Franklin.
877
00:54:38,901 --> 00:54:42,030
♪ Why don't you get
yourself together?
878
00:54:42,196 --> 00:54:44,745
♪ Get your heart, your mind
879
00:54:44,907 --> 00:54:48,832
♪ And your soul together, oh
880
00:54:48,994 --> 00:54:50,541
I think Lou did a great job
881
00:54:50,704 --> 00:54:53,548
and A&M did a great job
promoting my records here.
882
00:54:53,707 --> 00:54:56,881
I think you do, number one,
have to have that kill spirit,
883
00:54:57,044 --> 00:54:58,216
to really want it.
884
00:54:58,378 --> 00:55:00,676
Now, Merry Clayton got the kill spirit.
885
00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:02,512
I don't know why
she wasn't a superstar.
886
00:55:02,674 --> 00:55:05,473
♪ One day I'm gonna cut him down
887
00:55:05,636 --> 00:55:08,355
♪ You see I heard screaming
888
00:55:09,473 --> 00:55:12,067
♪ Bullwhips they were cracking
889
00:55:12,226 --> 00:55:16,652
♪ How long? Oh, how long?
890
00:55:16,814 --> 00:55:18,441
♪ Can you tell me?
891
00:55:18,607 --> 00:55:22,862
♪ Oh, southern man keep your head
892
00:55:23,028 --> 00:55:28,535
We did everything possible,
and it just didn't take.
893
00:55:30,410 --> 00:55:32,208
The industry,
it was controlled.
894
00:55:32,371 --> 00:55:35,045
There were rules.
She was a gospel singer.
895
00:55:35,207 --> 00:55:37,005
There's only one Aretha.
896
00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:39,465
You know, and that's the way
they felt in those days.
897
00:55:39,628 --> 00:55:42,131
It could only be Aretha.
Only could be Diana Ross.
898
00:55:42,297 --> 00:55:43,970
♪ Good book said
899
00:55:44,132 --> 00:55:48,057
♪ Well, you can't
forget what your
900
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:50,473
- ♪ Good book said
- ♪ Oh
901
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,767
Yes, I became frustrated at one time,
902
00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:55,937
said, "Damn, the record didn't
go any further than this?
903
00:55:56,103 --> 00:55:57,229
What're we doing wrong?"
904
00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:05,410
I felt like if I just gave
my heart to what I was doing,
905
00:56:06,572 --> 00:56:09,496
I would automatically be a star.
906
00:56:09,658 --> 00:56:13,083
♪ Southern man ♪
907
00:56:20,502 --> 00:56:24,348
I think what happens with
the whole issue of background
908
00:56:24,506 --> 00:56:27,931
versus lead singing is, you know,
909
00:56:28,093 --> 00:56:29,891
the material that you're given
910
00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:33,648
and how you work with producers.
911
00:56:43,108 --> 00:56:46,988
In the mid '70s, Darlene
Love is finally freed
912
00:56:47,154 --> 00:56:48,997
from her contract
with Phil Spector.
913
00:56:49,156 --> 00:56:50,874
I had signed with Gamble and Huff.
914
00:56:51,033 --> 00:56:53,536
Who were, at that time,
the hottest thing out there.
915
00:56:53,702 --> 00:56:56,876
And I say, "OK, here's my career.
It's gonna really go now. "
916
00:56:57,039 --> 00:56:59,883
And, uh, there was
another door I ran into.
917
00:57:02,878 --> 00:57:07,679
Within weeks, they sell her
contract back to Phil Spector
918
00:57:07,841 --> 00:57:09,809
and the nightmare continues.
919
00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:13,660
This was the new Phil Spector.
920
00:57:13,805 --> 00:57:17,059
He did the Beatles thing and,
you know, he was a big star,
921
00:57:17,225 --> 00:57:20,024
so now he's gonna act like a big star
in front of this little star,
922
00:57:20,187 --> 00:57:22,485
Darlene Love,
and I wasn't having it.
923
00:57:23,732 --> 00:57:26,531
It got to be so bad,
I just said, "You know what?
924
00:57:26,693 --> 00:57:28,536
I've had it. "
That's what I said to myself.
925
00:57:28,695 --> 00:57:31,369
Took the earphones off my ears,
put 'em in the chain
926
00:57:31,531 --> 00:57:35,456
picked up my coat, put it on
and walked out the studio.
927
00:57:35,619 --> 00:57:38,498
I didn't see Phil Spector
no more for over 20 years.
928
00:57:40,707 --> 00:57:43,802
Many of these singers
came out of the music business at a time
929
00:57:43,961 --> 00:57:48,182
when the singer depended
on a songwriter,
930
00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:50,889
somebody who knew
how to feature their voice,
931
00:57:51,051 --> 00:57:53,804
somebody who knew how
to create a hit arrangement.
932
00:57:53,971 --> 00:57:56,520
Those are a lot of things
to be dependent upon, you know.
933
00:57:56,682 --> 00:57:59,777
And I know so many people
with incredible voices,
934
00:57:59,935 --> 00:58:04,315
but if you don't find someone
who understands who you are,
935
00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:07,781
you can be a great singer
and just not... and that...
936
00:58:07,943 --> 00:58:10,023
just not make that next step,
you know. There's...
937
00:58:10,612 --> 00:58:12,660
I mean, the country's filled
with them, you know.
938
00:58:21,123 --> 00:58:24,127
There's no guarantees
in entertainment.
939
00:58:24,292 --> 00:58:26,090
There's no... no guarantees.
940
00:58:30,924 --> 00:58:34,224
I had been offered the chance
to go solo several times,
941
00:58:34,386 --> 00:58:37,481
and then ultimately, I ended up
with Warner Brothers.
942
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,108
The studio was smoking.
943
00:58:40,267 --> 00:58:44,238
It was just...
and it was just amazing.
944
00:58:44,396 --> 00:58:47,650
It was just amazing and...
945
00:58:47,816 --> 00:58:49,489
And how was
the record received?
946
00:58:50,902 --> 00:58:53,030
Mm... not that well.
947
00:58:59,828 --> 00:59:03,207
If you are out there and
your name is on that doggone marquee,
948
00:59:03,373 --> 00:59:07,423
the pressure is on 'em, and sometimes
that can... that can cause, uh,
949
00:59:07,586 --> 00:59:09,384
problems in a person's life.
950
00:59:19,473 --> 00:59:25,401
I had a contract as a solo artist
and then I was kept on, but shelved.
951
00:59:26,188 --> 00:59:30,785
So I was on Motown, but not.
And it hasn't been easy.
952
00:59:30,942 --> 00:59:33,821
You know, there's stuff
that goes on with people.
953
00:59:36,990 --> 00:59:41,996
I had a daughter to raise.
I had a band to support.
954
00:59:42,162 --> 00:59:44,210
I mean, it just got crazy.
955
00:59:55,884 --> 00:59:57,602
The kind of feeling
that you get
956
00:59:57,761 --> 01:00:00,184
from people
screaming in the audience,
957
01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:05,478
if you're always looking for that
in life, you're gonna crash.
958
01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:11,859
The focus wasn't
on music anymore.
959
01:00:13,902 --> 01:00:16,997
I had to send my daughter to live
with my brother and his kids,
960
01:00:17,155 --> 01:00:20,659
while I was trying to scrape
things together to pay the gas bill.
961
01:00:26,873 --> 01:00:29,376
I remember her putting out a record,
but then I looked up and then...
962
01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:31,136
I didn't see Claudia anymore.
963
01:00:32,420 --> 01:00:35,344
She said thank you and goodnight,
that's what she said.
964
01:00:38,844 --> 01:00:41,643
I thought people would be
banging down my door for deals,
965
01:00:41,805 --> 01:00:43,807
and it didn't happen like that.
966
01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:46,397
"You're too fat.
You're too old.
967
01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:50,523
You know, you should seriously
think about another career. "
968
01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:59,038
And after that, it's hell.
969
01:01:02,951 --> 01:01:05,329
I think if I had "made" it,
970
01:01:05,495 --> 01:01:08,214
like what the world...
millions of dollars, all that,
971
01:01:08,373 --> 01:01:12,048
I probably wouldn't be sitting in this
chair talking to you right know,
972
01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:14,212
'cause I would have OD'd somewhere.
973
01:01:29,144 --> 01:01:32,364
It's not a level playing field.
It never is a level playing field,
974
01:01:32,522 --> 01:01:35,492
and you come into life understanding
that. It's not about fairness.
975
01:01:35,650 --> 01:01:37,869
It's not really about talent,
you know.
976
01:01:38,028 --> 01:01:42,283
It's... circumstance,
it's luck. It's destiny.
977
01:01:42,449 --> 01:01:47,831
I don't know what it is, but
the best people deal with that.
978
01:01:58,298 --> 01:02:01,677
Working with Michael
really did inspire me,
979
01:02:01,843 --> 01:02:04,596
and saying like, "Wow,
it's OK to dream this big.
980
01:02:04,763 --> 01:02:06,765
It's OK to realize your dreams. "
981
01:02:08,975 --> 01:02:13,025
♪ I still believe
982
01:02:14,814 --> 01:02:18,694
♪ Someday
983
01:02:18,860 --> 01:02:21,033
♪ You'll come around
984
01:02:21,196 --> 01:02:24,200
She's representational of
what's happening with background singers
985
01:02:24,366 --> 01:02:27,336
at this point. I know she aspires
to be a solo artist, though.
986
01:02:27,494 --> 01:02:30,839
♪ I pray
987
01:02:30,997 --> 01:02:33,797
This last tour, I heard from other
friends that were with Michael
988
01:02:33,875 --> 01:02:37,630
that he just loved her and,
of course, she got the job.
989
01:02:37,796 --> 01:02:41,266
You know, we were so excited
for him and for us to be
990
01:02:41,424 --> 01:02:43,472
able to do this show,
and it was coming together.
991
01:02:43,635 --> 01:02:46,935
I can't do that.
But you're fine to do it.
992
01:02:47,097 --> 01:02:48,599
I gotta save my voice.
993
01:02:48,765 --> 01:02:50,813
♪ I ain't going nowhere
994
01:02:50,976 --> 01:02:52,353
♪ 'Cause I...
995
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:54,959
And then all of a sudden,
we're on our way to rehearsal
996
01:02:55,063 --> 01:02:56,656
and we get the news and it's like,
997
01:02:56,815 --> 01:02:59,659
"You gotta be kidding me.
Like, how's that even possible?"
998
01:02:59,818 --> 01:03:01,786
♪ We'll always be waiting
999
01:03:01,945 --> 01:03:04,198
♪ So somewhere in me
1000
01:03:04,364 --> 01:03:06,833
It's such an overwhelming
shock just to go from
1001
01:03:06,992 --> 01:03:09,165
almost on our way
to this huge show,
1002
01:03:09,327 --> 01:03:11,000
to all of a sudden, he's gone.
1003
01:03:11,162 --> 01:03:14,757
♪ You ♪
1004
01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,546
I was crying
throughout the service
1005
01:03:18,712 --> 01:03:22,182
and I wasn't really emotionally
in a place to sing,
1006
01:03:22,340 --> 01:03:24,559
but, actually, it
wasn't too unfamiliar to me,
1007
01:03:24,718 --> 01:03:27,346
because that kind of feeling
and that reverence
1008
01:03:27,512 --> 01:03:29,810
reminded me a lot
of church service,
1009
01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:31,850
so that's how I felt
when I was there.
1010
01:03:32,017 --> 01:03:35,612
But, you know, I didn't
really realize at the time
1011
01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:37,568
billions of people
were watching it.
1012
01:03:37,731 --> 01:03:39,699
And a star is born.
1013
01:03:39,858 --> 01:03:41,280
♪ We are the world
1014
01:03:41,443 --> 01:03:44,913
Judith, thank you so much
for joining us. Just 24 hours ago,
1015
01:03:45,071 --> 01:03:47,494
I think you were brought
to the world's attention
1016
01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:50,001
by doing one of Michael's
most famous songs ever.
1017
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,662
Well, what you saw...
1018
01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:55,002
When you're a background singer,
it is a springboard in the beginning,
1019
01:03:55,165 --> 01:03:59,215
but it can easily become quicksand
if that's not what you wanna do.
1020
01:03:59,377 --> 01:04:01,471
Ever since the Michael Jackson
experience,
1021
01:04:01,629 --> 01:04:04,428
I've turned down almost
every background singing gig,
1022
01:04:04,591 --> 01:04:07,686
because I knew that
if I kept doing it,
1023
01:04:07,844 --> 01:04:11,724
then becoming an artist
would become more difficult.
1024
01:04:11,890 --> 01:04:13,650
I think the world
needs to hear her
1025
01:04:13,767 --> 01:04:17,067
and I didn't want her to go
the way of background singing.
1026
01:04:17,228 --> 01:04:21,483
I put together the girls for Elton
to go on tour and they wanted Judith.
1027
01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:25,074
Elton loves Judith, but I think
she had to make a decision,
1028
01:04:25,236 --> 01:04:26,909
"Do I really wanna
be a solo artist?"
1029
01:04:27,072 --> 01:04:29,541
And she's trying to do it,
because she writes songs.
1030
01:04:31,076 --> 01:04:34,171
We in the music industry,
especially African American people,
1031
01:04:34,329 --> 01:04:37,048
need to know our worth.
1032
01:04:37,957 --> 01:04:41,757
We need to know,
as women, we're important.
1033
01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:46,766
And I think the breakdown is
1034
01:04:46,925 --> 01:04:52,773
when a woman doesn't know who
she is and she settle for less.
1035
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:56,693
Check out your worth,
1036
01:04:56,851 --> 01:04:59,479
because you're worth
more than that.
1037
01:05:02,774 --> 01:05:04,276
I couldn't sleep.
1038
01:05:04,442 --> 01:05:06,115
I was getting in such
a depressed state,
1039
01:05:06,277 --> 01:05:07,878
I called my mother and father,
asked them
1040
01:05:07,904 --> 01:05:10,282
if they would take care of my kids.
1041
01:05:10,448 --> 01:05:13,873
And the most enjoyment I got back
in those days was singing in church.
1042
01:05:14,035 --> 01:05:18,040
That's the only place that I was
actually singing during those times.
1043
01:05:18,206 --> 01:05:21,585
Only thing I thought I could do and
make a little money to survive,
1044
01:05:21,751 --> 01:05:24,254
you know,
I started cleaning houses.
1045
01:05:27,382 --> 01:05:29,885
Not the great Darlene Love.
She's not doing... cleaning houses.
1046
01:05:30,051 --> 01:05:33,351
I said, "Yes, the great Darlene Love is.
She is cleaning houses. "
1047
01:05:35,682 --> 01:05:40,188
One particular Christmas,
I was cleaning this lady's bathroom.
1048
01:05:45,650 --> 01:05:48,824
And "Christmas
(Baby Please Come Home)",
1049
01:05:48,987 --> 01:05:51,115
my Christmas record,
1050
01:05:51,281 --> 01:05:54,535
came on the radio while
I was cleaning this bathroom.
1051
01:05:59,539 --> 01:06:02,588
And I just looked up and just said,
"OK, all right, Darlene,
1052
01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:06,425
this is not where you're supposed to be.
You're supposed to be singing.
1053
01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:10,764
There's a whole world out there
who wants to hear you sing. "
1054
01:06:15,346 --> 01:06:20,147
And then the move from California
to New York, my career just took off.
1055
01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:27,741
Nice to have you here.
Everything OK with you?
1056
01:06:27,859 --> 01:06:29,452
- Wonderful.
- Thanks for being here.
1057
01:06:29,611 --> 01:06:30,908
- Come and sing it next year.
- Of course.
1058
01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:32,572
I hope you have a good holiday.
1059
01:06:32,739 --> 01:06:35,413
I have to plan what I'm going
to do. I have to take a little job.
1060
01:06:35,575 --> 01:06:36,997
The bastards got my daughter.
1061
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,913
Just so you can keep
your name out there.
1062
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:42,707
But if I didn't do those jobs,
then nobody would really know
1063
01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:44,968
who Darlene Love was.
1064
01:06:46,336 --> 01:06:49,431
As a young person,
I thought everybody could sing.
1065
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:51,887
When you start getting older,
then you realize,
1066
01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:55,224
everyone is not the same,
that these are gifts,
1067
01:06:55,386 --> 01:06:59,482
and you have to share
and go out into the world.
1068
01:07:10,735 --> 01:07:12,453
Whoo!
1069
01:07:12,612 --> 01:07:16,082
Oh, my girlfriend and I took these.
1070
01:07:16,241 --> 01:07:19,336
It was supposed to be closed.
You see the zipper is broken.
1071
01:07:19,494 --> 01:07:24,876
I swear it was closed.
It started out closed.
1072
01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:30,093
Here, yes. It's my Grammy.
1073
01:07:30,255 --> 01:07:33,350
I just kinda keep 'em here.
I don't know what to do with it.
1074
01:07:33,508 --> 01:07:35,931
I don't know what to do with it.
1075
01:07:36,094 --> 01:07:37,687
- You're looking fantastic.
- Thank you.
1076
01:07:37,845 --> 01:07:38,971
- I've gotta tell this story.
- OK.
1077
01:07:39,138 --> 01:07:41,812
The first time
I met you, I met Lisa,
1078
01:07:41,975 --> 01:07:43,735
was you were singing
background on my record.
1079
01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,861
- Yes...
- "I Know How To Make You," right.
1080
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:49,194
♪ I know how to make you
love me, baby
1081
01:07:49,357 --> 01:07:51,610
That's right, that's right.
And I have to tell you,
1082
01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:55,747
I mean, everyone in the
industry knows Lisa Fischer.
1083
01:07:55,905 --> 01:07:59,125
I wasn't deep
in search of a record deal.
1084
01:07:59,284 --> 01:08:03,255
It was just one of those things
that just blossomed,
1085
01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:05,882
you know,
and I was really fortunate.
1086
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,795
♪ How can I
1087
01:08:09,961 --> 01:08:12,714
♪ Ooh
1088
01:08:21,264 --> 01:08:25,144
I just... I think she
is a freak of nature
1089
01:08:25,310 --> 01:08:28,314
that I've never seen before.
1090
01:08:31,524 --> 01:08:36,075
♪ How can I ease
1091
01:08:36,237 --> 01:08:40,868
And the Grammy goes to... Lisa Fischer,
"How Can I Ease the Pain?"
1092
01:08:41,034 --> 01:08:46,040
- ♪ How can I ease
- ♪ How can I ease the
1093
01:08:46,205 --> 01:08:49,550
♪ Oh, pain, baby
1094
01:08:49,709 --> 01:08:52,462
I have to thank Luther Vandross.
That's the first thing I have to do.
1095
01:08:52,629 --> 01:08:55,052
Without him, none of this would
have been possible for me.
1096
01:08:55,214 --> 01:09:00,141
She has her own Grammy. She has her own
recording contract with Elektra Records.
1097
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,648
It's different when you're
singing background for someone,
1098
01:09:04,807 --> 01:09:06,935
you know, because you're so
into making them happy,
1099
01:09:07,101 --> 01:09:08,853
making sure that they
have what they need.
1100
01:09:09,020 --> 01:09:11,148
But then, once you're
doing your own thing,
1101
01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:13,634
it's like you have to try to
understand what it is you need
1102
01:09:13,691 --> 01:09:15,910
and what's gonna
make you happy.
1103
01:09:25,870 --> 01:09:29,249
Give it up. Lisa Fischer.
1104
01:09:41,803 --> 01:09:44,477
I was working
on a second record and...
1105
01:09:45,765 --> 01:09:47,438
I don't know, it just took too long.
1106
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,853
It took too long, and
there was this window,
1107
01:09:50,019 --> 01:09:51,362
and it just took too long.
1108
01:09:52,855 --> 01:09:57,577
I just don't think anyone
knew what to do with me.
1109
01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:00,538
I don't think
I knew what to do with me.
1110
01:10:00,697 --> 01:10:03,576
That's something
I never really understood,
1111
01:10:03,741 --> 01:10:06,745
just the business part of it.
1112
01:10:08,538 --> 01:10:10,836
It takes a tremendous
amount of energy
1113
01:10:10,998 --> 01:10:14,673
to be a solo artist and a tremendous
amount of ego to want to do that.
1114
01:10:16,504 --> 01:10:19,303
And she's never
had that kind of ego.
1115
01:10:21,342 --> 01:10:23,060
I think there
is a psychology behind it.
1116
01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:25,517
I think most background
singers will agree
1117
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,229
that we're not really
good self-promoters.
1118
01:10:28,391 --> 01:10:30,143
You know, the industry
is for those who put themselves
1119
01:10:30,309 --> 01:10:32,277
on display and are willing
to play the game,
1120
01:10:32,437 --> 01:10:34,439
and some people aren't.
1121
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,154
In a strange way,
the gulf between the lead singer
1122
01:10:40,319 --> 01:10:43,949
and that group of backup
singers couldn't be wider.
1123
01:10:44,115 --> 01:10:46,743
You're going into a group format
1124
01:10:46,909 --> 01:10:50,038
where you sacrifice individuality
1125
01:10:50,204 --> 01:10:53,003
in order to arrive at that blend.
1126
01:10:53,166 --> 01:10:58,047
And the blend is something that's
not just infectious for the listener.
1127
01:10:58,212 --> 01:11:02,934
It's... it's the transformative
experience for the singer.
1128
01:11:03,092 --> 01:11:07,347
And some people
just wanna stay there.
1129
01:11:08,931 --> 01:11:10,524
Real musicians,
1130
01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:12,777
there's a spiritual component
to what they do.
1131
01:11:12,935 --> 01:11:15,859
It's got nothing to do
with worldly success.
1132
01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:20,368
Their music is much
more of an inner journey.
1133
01:11:20,526 --> 01:11:24,156
Any other success
is just cream on the cake.
1134
01:11:26,365 --> 01:11:28,993
There's this idea that you can
go on American Idol
1135
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,128
and suddenly become a star,
1136
01:11:31,287 --> 01:11:34,211
but you may bypass
the spiritual work
1137
01:11:34,373 --> 01:11:36,375
that you have to do to get there,
1138
01:11:36,542 --> 01:11:40,968
and if you bypass that, then
your success will be wafer thin.
1139
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:53,060
People lose
the heart of a lot of it
1140
01:11:53,226 --> 01:11:55,695
because they haven't
grown up with, you know,
1141
01:11:55,853 --> 01:11:58,606
having to go through that,
what I call wood shedding,
1142
01:11:58,773 --> 01:12:01,868
having to really say,
"OK, let me focus in on...
1143
01:12:02,026 --> 01:12:04,870
this is what we need to do. "
1144
01:12:14,789 --> 01:12:16,791
There's a budget right now,
in every...
1145
01:12:16,958 --> 01:12:19,381
every recording budget
that says "for tuning. "
1146
01:12:19,544 --> 01:12:22,718
And that's, you know, how many hours
are allowed for tuning.
1147
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,100
And I said, "What's that?"
"Oh, we have to tune all the vocals. "
1148
01:12:26,259 --> 01:12:28,102
"Well, why don't they
sing in tune?"
1149
01:12:28,261 --> 01:12:31,686
"Well, it just takes too
much time and it's too hard. "
1150
01:12:31,848 --> 01:12:34,146
And so they just sing
and then they tune 'em all.
1151
01:12:34,308 --> 01:12:35,810
And that's ridiculous to me.
1152
01:12:35,977 --> 01:12:37,354
Please welcome Kylie Minogue.
1153
01:12:40,690 --> 01:12:44,320
Well, good evening, everyone.
How you feeling?
1154
01:12:44,485 --> 01:12:46,365
Actually, I've gotten
a lot of criticism.
1155
01:12:46,529 --> 01:12:48,748
I've done a couple of gigs
I thought I would get,
1156
01:12:48,906 --> 01:12:51,534
just get away with, you know.
And I even put a wig on.
1157
01:12:51,701 --> 01:12:54,580
I put, like, a straight-hair wig.
Like, on this Jay Leno gig,
1158
01:12:54,745 --> 01:12:58,420
no one's gonna know it's me. And then
I get these tweets from fans, like,
1159
01:12:58,583 --> 01:13:01,803
"How could you do this? You're singing
in front of... behind her,
1160
01:13:01,961 --> 01:13:04,430
and, you know,
you go from Michael to... "
1161
01:13:04,589 --> 01:13:07,593
And like just criticism, and I'm like,
"How did you even know that was me?"
1162
01:13:07,758 --> 01:13:11,763
But I'm, like, right
in the transitional stage here.
1163
01:13:11,929 --> 01:13:15,149
I am not at a position where
I can turn down everything,
1164
01:13:15,308 --> 01:13:17,276
because all of these things
as an artist
1165
01:13:17,435 --> 01:13:20,154
are really expensive
and my dreams are huge.
1166
01:13:20,313 --> 01:13:24,614
So I have been doing some
background singing on the side.
1167
01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:29,873
♪ I want to stop
and thank you with this now
1168
01:13:30,031 --> 01:13:35,162
♪ How sweet it is
to be loved by you
1169
01:13:35,328 --> 01:13:38,081
♪ Oh, yes, it is, yeah
1170
01:13:38,247 --> 01:13:40,295
♪ How sweet it is
1171
01:13:40,458 --> 01:13:43,837
With Judith, I knew
that she had an incredible voice.
1172
01:13:44,003 --> 01:13:48,349
I know that she sang in church,
and it was a really wonderful thing
1173
01:13:48,507 --> 01:13:51,181
when I heard her songs.
1174
01:13:51,344 --> 01:13:54,689
I said, "You're gonna do something. "
1175
01:13:54,847 --> 01:14:00,149
♪ How sweet it is
to be loved by you
1176
01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:05,859
Stevie is very excited
about me as an artist as well.
1177
01:14:06,025 --> 01:14:08,619
He's really shown that.
1178
01:14:08,778 --> 01:14:11,782
But it's just an honor to just be able
to... I don't really care.
1179
01:14:11,948 --> 01:14:14,827
I mean, I just love singing
with him regardless, you know.
1180
01:14:14,992 --> 01:14:16,994
As much as
you're enjoying this,
1181
01:14:17,161 --> 01:14:21,337
don't let your dream disappear,
1182
01:14:21,499 --> 01:14:24,252
because you wanna be with me
or be around me.
1183
01:14:24,418 --> 01:14:26,546
You gotta step out there
and do your thing.
1184
01:14:26,712 --> 01:14:29,431
♪ Sing, dah-dah-dah-dah-dah
1185
01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:35,563
People singing together
1186
01:14:35,721 --> 01:14:39,476
has always meant to me
people coming together.
1187
01:14:39,642 --> 01:14:44,068
What moves people
is the humanness of it, not the machine.
1188
01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:45,430
That's not the same as someone
1189
01:14:45,481 --> 01:14:47,801
singing and playing to you
and putting their heart into it.
1190
01:14:47,817 --> 01:14:50,991
And great background singers,
you know, it's moving.
1191
01:14:53,698 --> 01:14:55,738
For a long time,
I'd say a good five years,
1192
01:14:55,783 --> 01:14:57,660
you couldn't hear
a background on a record.
1193
01:14:57,827 --> 01:14:59,921
You wouldn't hear anybody
doing a hum or an "ooh"
1194
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:03,925
or a "la" or... or an
answer line or anything.
1195
01:15:04,083 --> 01:15:05,835
Nothin'.
1196
01:15:09,547 --> 01:15:12,391
There's not as much work
for background singers,
1197
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,769
because different ones have
called me over the years
1198
01:15:14,927 --> 01:15:16,850
and just asked me, "Are you working?
1199
01:15:17,013 --> 01:15:20,017
'Cause my phone hasn't been ringing. "
1200
01:15:26,772 --> 01:15:30,197
A lot of home studios, people
have their families singing,
1201
01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:31,799
doing all the vocal parts
themselves.
1202
01:15:31,944 --> 01:15:35,244
It's just put a lot
of singers out of work.
1203
01:15:49,128 --> 01:15:50,408
When you get to the '90s,
1204
01:15:50,504 --> 01:15:53,553
you're starting to see
major structural changes.
1205
01:15:53,716 --> 01:15:57,516
The big recording sessions
associated with the '70s and the '80s,
1206
01:15:57,678 --> 01:15:59,521
they're not happening anymore.
1207
01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:05,816
People didn't want
to pay the background singer,
1208
01:16:05,978 --> 01:16:07,418
'cause they don't
think they need it.
1209
01:16:07,438 --> 01:16:09,118
They were saying,
"Hey, we don't have to...
1210
01:16:09,273 --> 01:16:10,673
We don't have to write that check,"
1211
01:16:10,816 --> 01:16:13,365
not realizing that was the sound.
1212
01:16:13,527 --> 01:16:17,748
And that's why Joe Cocker
and The Stones and Rod Stewart,
1213
01:16:17,907 --> 01:16:22,037
David and all of these wonderful people,
they have their singers there.
1214
01:16:22,203 --> 01:16:25,377
They need those background singers.
1215
01:16:30,211 --> 01:16:32,885
You do tend to wonder,
is there a cutoff point
1216
01:16:33,047 --> 01:16:37,678
or is there a way to leave
this occupation or this life
1217
01:16:37,843 --> 01:16:39,811
without dying of heartbreak or,
you know, or just,
1218
01:16:39,970 --> 01:16:43,645
is it the biggest jones of all?
1219
01:16:45,684 --> 01:16:49,780
You get hooked on music,
you are fucked, you know.
1220
01:16:57,071 --> 01:17:00,701
When you get into a relationship,
you know, there's an energy.
1221
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:07,632
It's like when you see a married
couple walking into a room.
1222
01:17:08,791 --> 01:17:13,262
You see them part, but you still feel
that string that binds them.
1223
01:17:13,420 --> 01:17:17,470
I never really had that.
1224
01:17:19,718 --> 01:17:23,564
So I always felt like I
belonged to everyone, you know,
1225
01:17:23,722 --> 01:17:25,816
a part of my heart,
1226
01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:28,444
a part of who I am
belongs to everybody.
1227
01:17:28,602 --> 01:17:31,321
So, I mean, sometimes
when I, you know,
1228
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:33,699
talk to my friends who have
children or who are married,
1229
01:17:33,858 --> 01:17:36,236
I think to myself,
1230
01:17:36,402 --> 01:17:40,373
"Hmm, maybe I should've gotten
married and had some kids
1231
01:17:40,531 --> 01:17:45,253
and done all that kinda thing. "
But... I'm good.
1232
01:17:45,411 --> 01:17:49,291
I am so good.
1233
01:17:54,962 --> 01:17:57,841
Lisa is so incredibly versatile,
1234
01:17:58,007 --> 01:18:01,682
then you almost, you're so talented,
you almost get like option anxiety.
1235
01:18:01,844 --> 01:18:03,972
Well, what do I do?
Should I stay with the R&B thing?
1236
01:18:04,138 --> 01:18:06,015
Well, R&B was so big at the time.
1237
01:18:06,182 --> 01:18:08,401
Then you're up against Whitney
and Mariah and blah and blah and blah.
1238
01:18:08,559 --> 01:18:10,919
Then, maybe I should do a little bit
more of the rock thing.
1239
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,194
And her phone rings and it's Mick Jagger
and he says, "Join The Stones,"
1240
01:18:14,356 --> 01:18:18,406
and that's a hard thing to, you know,
to turn away from, you know.
1241
01:18:18,569 --> 01:18:20,037
That's a...
1242
01:18:21,739 --> 01:18:25,585
♪ Rape, murder
1243
01:18:25,743 --> 01:18:29,964
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
1244
01:18:30,122 --> 01:18:32,045
♪ Rape...
1245
01:18:32,208 --> 01:18:34,586
It's great to have
the female voice, you know,
1246
01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:37,926
otherwise it's me, me, me, me and me
and then it's a bit of Keith and...
1247
01:18:38,088 --> 01:18:42,264
But still, you know, it's still
the same kind of masculinity.
1248
01:18:42,426 --> 01:18:45,851
And then when you can get
someone like Lisa to step out
1249
01:18:46,013 --> 01:18:48,232
and you've got a whole
new voice out there.
1250
01:18:57,274 --> 01:18:58,901
It's like, I could
hear how Mick was singing it
1251
01:18:59,068 --> 01:19:02,572
and I, you know,
react to him a certain way.
1252
01:19:02,738 --> 01:19:05,332
♪ My very life today
1253
01:19:05,491 --> 01:19:08,995
Like nobody else was in the room.
It was freeing in a weird way.
1254
01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:10,788
♪ Gimme shelter
1255
01:19:10,955 --> 01:19:15,085
♪ Or I'm gonna fade away
1256
01:19:15,251 --> 01:19:17,299
Why isn't she promoting herself
1257
01:19:17,461 --> 01:19:19,259
and why is she out with
The Rolling Stones all the time?
1258
01:19:19,421 --> 01:19:21,219
It's because she's
comfortable doing that.
1259
01:19:21,382 --> 01:19:23,680
She loves doing it
and she's got it all to herself.
1260
01:19:23,842 --> 01:19:24,843
She's not stupid.
1261
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:28,184
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
1262
01:19:28,889 --> 01:19:32,564
♪ It's just a shot away
Shot away, shot away
1263
01:19:32,726 --> 01:19:36,276
I wanna be able to walk the streets
and not have to worry about, you know,
1264
01:19:36,438 --> 01:19:38,691
putting on sunglasses
and hiding out and, you know,
1265
01:19:38,857 --> 01:19:41,736
the tits up in the air
and, you know... I just... I...
1266
01:19:41,902 --> 01:19:46,157
I'm just... I'm not feeling that.
I'm just not feeling that.
1267
01:19:46,323 --> 01:19:50,499
♪ It's just a kiss away
It's just a kiss away
1268
01:19:50,661 --> 01:19:54,711
♪ Kiss away, kiss away
Kiss away
1269
01:19:54,873 --> 01:19:58,673
Some people will do
anything to be famous,
1270
01:19:58,836 --> 01:20:03,012
and then there are other people
who just will sing.
1271
01:20:03,173 --> 01:20:08,600
It's not about anything except
being in this special space
1272
01:20:08,762 --> 01:20:13,984
with people, and that is
really the higher calling to me.
1273
01:20:35,289 --> 01:20:38,589
Seemingly, every time I get
ready to do something really big,
1274
01:20:38,751 --> 01:20:41,755
or something really, really wonderful,
something would just happen
1275
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,469
that would just knock me
to my knees, you know.
1276
01:20:45,924 --> 01:20:48,473
You don't want everybody to know
you got this at Pick 'n Save.
1277
01:20:48,635 --> 01:20:49,682
Ha!
1278
01:20:49,845 --> 01:20:51,597
I said, "God, what is this?
1279
01:20:51,764 --> 01:20:55,109
Am I not supposed to be doing this?
If I'm not supposed to be doing this,
1280
01:20:55,267 --> 01:20:57,520
then show me I'm not
supposed to be doing this,
1281
01:20:57,686 --> 01:21:00,189
and I won't do it, you know. "
But I never was shown.
1282
01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:03,826
- Amen.
- Praise the Lord.
1283
01:21:05,694 --> 01:21:08,163
And I just stay cool,
stay humble,
1284
01:21:08,322 --> 01:21:10,871
stay beautiful
and just do the work.
1285
01:21:11,033 --> 01:21:13,536
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
1286
01:21:13,827 --> 01:21:17,707
If somebody says, "You're gonna
become an international superstar, "
1287
01:21:17,873 --> 01:21:20,001
of course everyone would spend
the money and do that.
1288
01:21:20,167 --> 01:21:22,761
But if you're living in a little place
and you have no money
1289
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,640
and you got a little bit saved
and they say,
1290
01:21:24,755 --> 01:21:26,348
"You gotta risk all of that
1291
01:21:26,507 --> 01:21:28,851
and you still might be working
McDonald's tomorrow,"
1292
01:21:29,009 --> 01:21:34,357
I think you gotta be absolutely
crazy to go after it like that, yeah.
1293
01:21:47,319 --> 01:21:49,071
It was just...
1294
01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:52,993
I came to a fork in the road
and music wasn't on it.
1295
01:21:56,787 --> 01:22:00,382
Meaning, "I'm sorry,
I'm very sorry, or... "
1296
01:22:00,541 --> 01:22:05,718
I've been teaching
Spanish for ten to 15 years.
1297
01:22:05,879 --> 01:22:09,725
♪ Maybe you're
where you're supposed to be
1298
01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:15,811
♪ Safely kept within the crowd
1299
01:22:15,973 --> 01:22:18,101
It's always
been a missing link.
1300
01:22:18,267 --> 01:22:22,147
♪ You're looking for a reason
to break free
1301
01:22:22,312 --> 01:22:27,910
It's been a regret that I
didn't just hang in there,
1302
01:22:28,068 --> 01:22:32,244
especially when I see my contemporaries
progressing in their musical lives.
1303
01:22:32,406 --> 01:22:35,580
♪ Try to let it out
1304
01:22:37,578 --> 01:22:39,672
♪ So much worse
1305
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:42,549
I never said it
wasn't for me, never.
1306
01:22:42,708 --> 01:22:47,839
If I did, I was lying to myself.
It's always been for me, always.
1307
01:22:48,005 --> 01:22:53,102
Just do it. Maybe that's one way to get
rid of that gnawing once and for all.
1308
01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:55,558
♪ Oh, chance
1309
01:22:55,721 --> 01:22:58,395
♪ We all need
We all need, we all need
1310
01:22:58,557 --> 01:23:02,312
♪ We all need a little desperation
1311
01:23:03,187 --> 01:23:08,284
Let's have a warm, warm welcome
for Miss Judith Hill.
1312
01:23:08,442 --> 01:23:10,285
♪ Do you want, do you want
1313
01:23:10,444 --> 01:23:11,445
♪ Do you want
1314
01:23:11,612 --> 01:23:15,207
♪ Do you want a little inspiration?
1315
01:23:15,365 --> 01:23:17,618
♪ 'Cause every wound
Every wound, every wound
1316
01:23:17,784 --> 01:23:21,254
♪ Really needs a little desperation
1317
01:23:21,413 --> 01:23:24,542
There's machines that make people
stars that don't have talent.
1318
01:23:24,708 --> 01:23:28,429
They don't really sing live.
Someone could have done that for Judith,
1319
01:23:28,587 --> 01:23:31,056
but I think what she has is deeper,
1320
01:23:31,215 --> 01:23:34,890
and maybe selling 500 million records
is not the best thing for her.
1321
01:23:35,052 --> 01:23:39,558
♪ Let it out
1322
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:47,357
♪ So much worse
if you don't try now
1323
01:23:47,523 --> 01:23:50,948
It's more than just leaning on your
talent. You gotta be disciplined.
1324
01:23:51,109 --> 01:23:52,656
Gotta get up in the morning.
You gotta go do it.
1325
01:23:52,819 --> 01:23:54,662
♪ Take a chance
1326
01:23:54,821 --> 01:23:56,744
♪ Take a chance...
1327
01:23:56,907 --> 01:23:59,877
Opportunity's knocking.
Open the door. Get going, kiddo.
1328
01:24:00,035 --> 01:24:03,130
♪ We all need, we all need
We all need
1329
01:24:03,288 --> 01:24:06,588
♪ A little desperation
1330
01:24:06,750 --> 01:24:09,219
♪ Can I have, can I have
Can I have
1331
01:24:09,378 --> 01:24:11,597
In these times that
we're living in right now,
1332
01:24:11,755 --> 01:24:13,928
a lot of it is based on
so many other things
1333
01:24:14,091 --> 01:24:16,059
that have nothing
to do with music.
1334
01:24:16,218 --> 01:24:19,062
♪ Do you want
a little inspiration?
1335
01:24:19,221 --> 01:24:22,145
But, you know, at the end
of the day, it's up to you
1336
01:24:22,307 --> 01:24:24,309
to perfect that gift
that you've been given.
1337
01:24:24,476 --> 01:24:27,275
Put your spirit into that song.
1338
01:24:27,437 --> 01:24:29,940
Focus on the words
that you're singing.
1339
01:24:30,107 --> 01:24:33,486
Get into the experience
of what you're singing about
1340
01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:35,450
and sing your heart out.
1341
01:24:35,612 --> 01:24:40,994
♪ A little desperation ♪
1342
01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:43,457
Every time you get up,
you might fall down,
1343
01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:45,543
but you gotta get back
up again, you know,
1344
01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:48,801
and believe me when I tell you,
it's not easy, especially at my age.
1345
01:24:48,959 --> 01:24:52,179
I didn't start my solo
career till I was 40.
1346
01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:55,341
Tonight marks the 25th anniversary
1347
01:24:55,507 --> 01:24:57,635
of a favorite holiday tradition
here at The Late Show.
1348
01:24:57,801 --> 01:24:59,303
Ladies and Gentlemen,
please welcome
1349
01:24:59,469 --> 01:25:01,972
the remarkable Darlene Love.
1350
01:25:11,815 --> 01:25:16,912
♪ Sometimes in our lives
1351
01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:20,995
♪ We all have pain
1352
01:25:21,158 --> 01:25:26,710
♪ We all have sorrow
1353
01:25:26,872 --> 01:25:31,878
♪ But if we are wise
1354
01:25:32,044 --> 01:25:35,514
♪ We know that there's
1355
01:25:35,672 --> 01:25:39,393
♪ Always tomorrow
1356
01:25:39,551 --> 01:25:42,930
- ♪ Lean on me
- ♪ Lean on me
1357
01:25:43,096 --> 01:25:46,350
♪ When you're not strong
1358
01:25:46,516 --> 01:25:49,986
♪ And I'll be your friend
1359
01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:54,821
♪ I'll help you carry on
1360
01:25:54,983 --> 01:25:57,077
And now it is
my honor and pleasure
1361
01:25:57,235 --> 01:25:59,738
to induct into the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame,
1362
01:25:59,905 --> 01:26:03,580
and about time too,
Miss Darlene Love.
1363
01:26:03,742 --> 01:26:09,500
♪ Somebody to lean on
1364
01:26:10,666 --> 01:26:15,137
♪ Please follow your pride
1365
01:26:15,295 --> 01:26:17,548
Thank you,
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
1366
01:26:17,714 --> 01:26:21,719
I am truly honored and overwhelmed.
1367
01:26:21,885 --> 01:26:24,684
♪ Tomorrow
1368
01:26:24,846 --> 01:26:28,066
So many of us,
Merry Clayton, the Waters,
1369
01:26:28,225 --> 01:26:30,023
we stand on her shoulders.
1370
01:26:31,144 --> 01:26:32,612
My mother
told this one lady,
1371
01:26:32,771 --> 01:26:35,194
"Oh, my daughter's in New
York now. She's on Broadway.
1372
01:26:35,357 --> 01:26:38,952
And they go, "What daughter?" Said,
"The one that used to clean your house. "
1373
01:26:39,695 --> 01:26:41,789
- ♪ Lean on me
- ♪ Lean on me
1374
01:26:41,947 --> 01:26:45,042
- ♪ When you're not strong
- ♪ Lean on me
1375
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,579
♪ And I'll be your friend
1376
01:26:48,745 --> 01:26:54,468
♪ I'll help you carry on
1377
01:26:54,626 --> 01:26:56,173
- ♪ For
- ♪ Lean on me
1378
01:26:56,336 --> 01:26:59,715
- ♪ It won't be long
- ♪ Lean on me
1379
01:26:59,881 --> 01:27:02,851
♪ Till I'm gonna need
1380
01:27:03,009 --> 01:27:07,515
♪ Somebody to lean on
1381
01:27:09,349 --> 01:27:11,772
I've seen artists come and go,
1382
01:27:11,935 --> 01:27:15,565
and I look around on stage
and it's the same players.
1383
01:27:15,731 --> 01:27:18,655
They're in the game,
or they've stayed in the game
1384
01:27:18,817 --> 01:27:21,366
and they're legends
and they're amazing.
1385
01:27:21,528 --> 01:27:24,372
♪ Lean on me
1386
01:27:24,531 --> 01:27:27,751
- ♪ When you're not strong
- ♪ When you're not strong
1387
01:27:27,909 --> 01:27:31,755
- ♪ I'll be your friend
- ♪ I'll be your friend
1388
01:27:31,913 --> 01:27:37,090
- ♪ I'll help you carry on
- ♪ Yes, I will
1389
01:27:37,252 --> 01:27:41,177
Singing background,
it helped me find me.
1390
01:27:41,339 --> 01:27:45,344
It got back to the love of music.
1391
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:50,812
♪ Somebody to lean
1392
01:27:50,974 --> 01:27:53,853
- ♪ Lean on me
- ♪ Lean on me
1393
01:27:54,019 --> 01:27:57,319
- ♪ When you're not strong
- ♪ When you're not strong
1394
01:27:57,481 --> 01:28:00,906
- ♪ I'll be your friend
- ♪ And I'll be your friend
1395
01:28:01,067 --> 01:28:06,540
- ♪ I'll help you carry on
- ♪ Yes, I will, yes, I will
1396
01:28:06,698 --> 01:28:11,374
- ♪ For it won't be long
- ♪ It won't be long
1397
01:28:11,536 --> 01:28:13,630
♪ Till I'm gonna need
1398
01:28:13,789 --> 01:28:16,212
We have a gift.
We can hear a song
1399
01:28:16,374 --> 01:28:18,468
and find our part
and harmonize with it.
1400
01:28:18,627 --> 01:28:20,345
Children on the
corner's doing it.
1401
01:28:20,504 --> 01:28:23,758
Little babies do it
when they learn to sing.
1402
01:28:23,924 --> 01:28:26,973
It's the gift coming out.
1403
01:28:27,135 --> 01:28:31,185
Now, what you do
with the gift is you.
1404
01:28:31,348 --> 01:28:35,023
Like the old days.
1405
01:28:35,185 --> 01:28:38,405
OK, next session.
1406
01:28:40,190 --> 01:28:41,191
My boy!
1407
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,454
I've got so much love
in my heart for him,
1408
01:28:45,612 --> 01:28:48,866
and I just don't feel like me
when he's not around.
1409
01:28:49,032 --> 01:28:52,002
Yeah, there are boys
and there are boys,
1410
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,505
- but he's a...
- ♪ Fine, fine boy
1411
01:28:55,664 --> 01:28:58,884
♪ I wanna tell the world
about the boy I love
1412
01:28:59,042 --> 01:29:01,966
♪ Just the kind of guy
I've been dreaming of
1413
01:29:02,128 --> 01:29:05,177
♪ He's so sincere
When he holds me tight
1414
01:29:05,340 --> 01:29:09,766
♪ When I'm blue
He makes me feel all right
1415
01:29:11,972 --> 01:29:15,351
♪ He even takes me places
and buys me things
1416
01:29:15,517 --> 01:29:18,487
♪ But love is more important
than a diamond ring
1417
01:29:18,645 --> 01:29:21,899
♪ All I wanna do is
stay by his side
1418
01:29:22,065 --> 01:29:26,741
♪ Take care of him and
I'll be satisfied
1419
01:29:26,903 --> 01:29:29,702
♪ 'Cause he's got a sweet,
sweet kiss
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01:29:29,865 --> 01:29:31,833
♪ And a true, true heart
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01:29:31,992 --> 01:29:34,916
♪ Something tells me
that we'll never part
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01:29:35,078 --> 01:29:37,957
♪ He's got a sweet, sweet kiss
and a true, true heart
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01:29:38,123 --> 01:29:40,467
♪ And he's fine, fine, fine
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01:29:40,625 --> 01:29:43,595
♪ No, he's fine, fine, fine
1425
01:29:43,753 --> 01:29:47,257
♪ Let me tell you
He's a fine, fine boy
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01:29:50,427 --> 01:29:53,647
- ♪ Yeah
- ♪ Fine, fine boy
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01:29:53,805 --> 01:29:57,605
♪ I know he's fine
And he's mine
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01:29:57,767 --> 01:30:02,113
- ♪ He's a fine, fine boy
- ♪ Yeah, he's mine
1429
01:30:02,272 --> 01:30:06,197
- ♪ He's fine
- ♪ He's a fine, fine boy
1430
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:08,987
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
1431
01:30:09,154 --> 01:30:14,709
♪ He's mine
He's a fine, fine boy ♪
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01:30:24,586 --> 01:30:27,965
Whoo!
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01:30:28,131 --> 01:30:30,475
Darlene Love!
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