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the exhibition title was uh
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derived from the blind leading leading
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derived from the blind leading leading
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derived from the blind leading leading
the blind which is a an expression where
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the blind which is a an expression where
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the blind which is a an expression where
you know the hopelessness of people who
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you know the hopelessness of people who
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you know the hopelessness of people who
have no hope leading other people who
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have no hope leading other people who
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have no hope leading other people who
have no hope and I kind of assumed that
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have no hope and I kind of assumed that
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have no hope and I kind of assumed that
it would be more interesting if uh you
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it would be more interesting if uh you
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it would be more interesting if uh you
know referred to the procession of the
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know referred to the procession of the
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know referred to the procession of the
Damned as in people who are Undead or
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Damned as in people who are Undead or
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Damned as in people who are Undead or
dead you know it's just like the title
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dead you know it's just like the title
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dead you know it's just like the title
and people should expect to be
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and people should expect to be
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and people should expect to be
um thrilled by this exhibition
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um thrilled by this exhibition
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um thrilled by this exhibition
monuments to immortality are
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monuments to immortality are
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monuments to immortality are
a series of bomb vests
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a series of bomb vests
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a series of bomb vests
copied from bomb vests that haven't
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copied from bomb vests that haven't
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copied from bomb vests that haven't
exploded
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exploded
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exploded
um they're made in bronze and bronze is
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um they're made in bronze and bronze is
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um they're made in bronze and bronze is
usually the material used to memorialize
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usually the material used to memorialize
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usually the material used to memorialize
Heroes so that you see these kind of
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Heroes so that you see these kind of
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Heroes so that you see these kind of
sculptures of kind of
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sculptures of kind of
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sculptures of kind of
soldiers and kind of generals kind of
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soldiers and kind of generals kind of
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soldiers and kind of generals kind of
littered around cities monuments to
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littered around cities monuments to
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littered around cities monuments to
immortality are just bronze sculptures
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immortality are just bronze sculptures
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immortality are just bronze sculptures
are off the moment and at which
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are off the moment and at which
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are off the moment and at which
um you know someone someone's bid for
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um you know someone someone's bid for
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um you know someone someone's bid for
immortality uh occurs you know they're
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immortality uh occurs you know they're
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immortality uh occurs you know they're
kind of like they've captured moments in
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kind of like they've captured moments in
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kind of like they've captured moments in
which
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which
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which
um you know
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um you know
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um you know
but Arena let's talk about something
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but Arena let's talk about something
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but Arena let's talk about something
else come on we should talk about
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else come on we should talk about
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else come on we should talk about
football I think some people uh you know
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football I think some people uh you know
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football I think some people uh you know
obviously the reaction to work varies
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obviously the reaction to work varies
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obviously the reaction to work varies
infinitely but I think
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infinitely but I think
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infinitely but I think
um it's possible that the work uh it has
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um it's possible that the work uh it has
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um it's possible that the work uh it has
people engage with its kind of critical
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people engage with its kind of critical
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people engage with its kind of critical
function or people kind of laugh at the
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function or people kind of laugh at the
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function or people kind of laugh at the
work because they can see the humor or
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work because they can see the humor or
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work because they can see the humor or
the kind of the Sinister side of it or
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the kind of the Sinister side of it or
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the kind of the Sinister side of it or
some people are morally offended by it
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some people are morally offended by it
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some people are morally offended by it
um you know so the reactions are varied
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um you know so the reactions are varied
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um you know so the reactions are varied
and multiple it's difficult to know and
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and multiple it's difficult to know and
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and multiple it's difficult to know and
I'm certainly not the Arbiter of other
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I'm certainly not the Arbiter of other
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I'm certainly not the Arbiter of other
people's interpretations of the work
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people's interpretations of the work
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people's interpretations of the work
that's the work is made and that's
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that's the work is made and that's
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that's the work is made and that's
that's for them to kind of you know
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that's for them to kind of you know
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that's for them to kind of you know
that's their part of the kind of
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that's their part of the kind of
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that's their part of the kind of
contract I guess I'm not really sure
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contract I guess I'm not really sure
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contract I guess I'm not really sure
what who the public is who is the public
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what who the public is who is the public
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what who the public is who is the public
is it a kind of uh the official
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is it a kind of uh the official
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is it a kind of uh the official
Bourgeois Elite or is it the kind of a
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Bourgeois Elite or is it the kind of a
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Bourgeois Elite or is it the kind of a
liberal Elite or is it a kind of a
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liberal Elite or is it a kind of a
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liberal Elite or is it a kind of a
general public for people who are not
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general public for people who are not
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general public for people who are not
that familiar with art so I don't I'm
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that familiar with art so I don't I'm
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that familiar with art so I don't I'm
don't really like talking about the
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don't really like talking about the
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don't really like talking about the
public or the audience it's kind of
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public or the audience it's kind of
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public or the audience it's kind of
difficult to know but I think in a more
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difficult to know but I think in a more
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difficult to know but I think in a more
interesting sense the idea that the work
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interesting sense the idea that the work
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interesting sense the idea that the work
is not part of me once it leaves the
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is not part of me once it leaves the
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is not part of me once it leaves the
studio is because in a sense the work of
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studio is because in a sense the work of
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studio is because in a sense the work of
art is only an approximation of the
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art is only an approximation of the
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art is only an approximation of the
artists and intentions you know it's
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artists and intentions you know it's
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artists and intentions you know it's
possible to kind of consider a history
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possible to kind of consider a history
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possible to kind of consider a history
of art that excludes even the people who
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of art that excludes even the people who
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of art that excludes even the people who
made it there's no correlation between
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made it there's no correlation between
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made it there's no correlation between
the artist's intentions and the work of
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the artist's intentions and the work of
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the artist's intentions and the work of
art that relationship is completely
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art that relationship is completely
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art that relationship is completely
tangential and it's not uh it's not
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tangential and it's not uh it's not
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tangential and it's not uh it's not
evident it's not it's it's impossible to
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evident it's not it's it's impossible to
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evident it's not it's it's impossible to
possess the meaning of a work of art so
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possess the meaning of a work of art so
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possess the meaning of a work of art so
in a sense the uh you know the artist is
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in a sense the uh you know the artist is
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in a sense the uh you know the artist is
kind of like a a work of art if anything
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kind of like a a work of art if anything
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kind of like a a work of art if anything
um the reason making art is interesting
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um the reason making art is interesting
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um the reason making art is interesting
is because it deposes the artist the
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is because it deposes the artist the
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is because it deposes the artist the
artist is the least important uh element
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artist is the least important uh element
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artist is the least important uh element
in the process that once the work of art
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in the process that once the work of art
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in the process that once the work of art
kind of is somehow finished then it
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kind of is somehow finished then it
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kind of is somehow finished then it
there's no Allegiance or responsibility
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there's no Allegiance or responsibility
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there's no Allegiance or responsibility
to uphold the artist's intentions in
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to uphold the artist's intentions in
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to uphold the artist's intentions in
fact the artist's intentions are
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fact the artist's intentions are
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fact the artist's intentions are
normally you know you can imagine a
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normally you know you can imagine a
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normally you know you can imagine a
history of art that actually excludes
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history of art that actually excludes
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history of art that actually excludes
the artists and it probably be a more
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the artists and it probably be a more
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the artists and it probably be a more
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interesting
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interesting
description of the process of making art
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description of the process of making art
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description of the process of making art
I mean upsetting them subverting I mean
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I mean upsetting them subverting I mean
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I mean upsetting them subverting I mean
I think you know this this idea that the
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I think you know this this idea that the
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I think you know this this idea that the
kind of art occupies some kind of
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kind of art occupies some kind of
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kind of art occupies some kind of
counter-cultural position I think is is
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counter-cultural position I think is is
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counter-cultural position I think is is
is vaguely sentimental I think the
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is vaguely sentimental I think the
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is vaguely sentimental I think the
Counter Culture is this is the status
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Counter Culture is this is the status
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Counter Culture is this is the status
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quo
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quo
um Counter Culture kind of died in 1968
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um Counter Culture kind of died in 1968
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um Counter Culture kind of died in 1968
I imagine you know
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I imagine you know
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I imagine you know
um and as far as you know the
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um and as far as you know the
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um and as far as you know the
possibility of a work of art you know
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possibility of a work of art you know
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possibility of a work of art you know
kind of
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kind of
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kind of
being critically kind of um
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being critically kind of um
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being critically kind of um
successful is is or at least uh I think
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successful is is or at least uh I think
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successful is is or at least uh I think
you said something like upsetting people
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you said something like upsetting people
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you said something like upsetting people
or affecting people I think the thing
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or affecting people I think the thing
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or affecting people I think the thing
about how critical art functions is that
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about how critical art functions is that
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about how critical art functions is that
it draws people into a kind of a
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it draws people into a kind of a
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it draws people into a kind of a
melodramatic pantomime that they kind of
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melodramatic pantomime that they kind of
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melodramatic pantomime that they kind of
that they actually are
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that they actually are
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that they actually are
um they participate in so when people
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um they participate in so when people
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um they participate in so when people
are shocked by the work of art they
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are shocked by the work of art they
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are shocked by the work of art they
participate in their own shock you know
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participate in their own shock you know
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participate in their own shock you know
it's a kind of it's a it's a
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it's a kind of it's a it's a
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it's a kind of it's a it's a
melodramatic reaction
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melodramatic reaction
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melodramatic reaction
um you know I think if people assume
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um you know I think if people assume
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um you know I think if people assume
that somehow a work of art should be
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that somehow a work of art should be
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that somehow a work of art should be
shocking they fulfill their bar their
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shocking they fulfill their bar their
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shocking they fulfill their bar their
part in The Exchange and pretend to be
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part in The Exchange and pretend to be
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part in The Exchange and pretend to be
shocked
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shocked
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shocked
um I think anyone who's shocked by Art
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um I think anyone who's shocked by Art
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um I think anyone who's shocked by Art
is probably shocked by
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is probably shocked by
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is probably shocked by
uh courgettes I mean I think
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uh courgettes I mean I think
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uh courgettes I mean I think
again you know it's it's it's very
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again you know it's it's it's very
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again you know it's it's it's very
difficult to not think of Art
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difficult to not think of Art
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difficult to not think of Art
uh becoming a uh a kind of weaponized
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uh becoming a uh a kind of weaponized
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uh becoming a uh a kind of weaponized
um function of of Bourgeois
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um function of of Bourgeois
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um function of of Bourgeois
gentrification
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gentrification
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gentrification
so it's very difficult to see critical
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so it's very difficult to see critical
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so it's very difficult to see critical
art as having some uh some kind of
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art as having some uh some kind of
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art as having some uh some kind of
purpose other than to kind of expand
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purpose other than to kind of expand
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purpose other than to kind of expand
markets to see it as a kind of a
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markets to see it as a kind of a
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markets to see it as a kind of a
performative vehicle of capital
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performative vehicle of capital
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performative vehicle of capital
and so any kind of counter-cultural sort
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and so any kind of counter-cultural sort
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and so any kind of counter-cultural sort
of Ambitions that it has are sort of
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of Ambitions that it has are sort of
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of Ambitions that it has are sort of
kind of embedded in this notion that uh
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kind of embedded in this notion that uh
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kind of embedded in this notion that uh
you know that we we use things like
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you know that we we use things like
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you know that we we use things like
Counter Culture to express our
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Counter Culture to express our
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Counter Culture to express our
anti-capitalism by stitwell still
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anti-capitalism by stitwell still
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anti-capitalism by stitwell still
participating in capitalism so you know
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participating in capitalism so you know
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participating in capitalism so you know
we kind of the works of art which are
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we kind of the works of art which are
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we kind of the works of art which are
kind of most abject they uh they act out
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kind of most abject they uh they act out
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kind of most abject they uh they act out
or they compensate our sense of kind of
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or they compensate our sense of kind of
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or they compensate our sense of kind of
revolutionary Spirit whilst we're still
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revolutionary Spirit whilst we're still
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revolutionary Spirit whilst we're still
participating in capitalism so I I you
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participating in capitalism so I I you
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participating in capitalism so I I you
know I deeply pessimistic about the
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know I deeply pessimistic about the
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know I deeply pessimistic about the
possibility of our functioning in any
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possibility of our functioning in any
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possibility of our functioning in any
kind of critical way because I see
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kind of critical way because I see
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kind of critical way because I see
critique and critical criticism as being
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critique and critical criticism as being
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critique and critical criticism as being
part of some kind of dialectical sort of
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part of some kind of dialectical sort of
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part of some kind of dialectical sort of
capitalistic motion you know uh I'm not
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capitalistic motion you know uh I'm not
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capitalistic motion you know uh I'm not
sure if I said I was anti-progressive I
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sure if I said I was anti-progressive I
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sure if I said I was anti-progressive I
mean I'm just kind of trying to I
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mean I'm just kind of trying to I
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mean I'm just kind of trying to I
suppose that you know what if you if you
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suppose that you know what if you if you
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suppose that you know what if you if you
place a question over progressiveness
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place a question over progressiveness
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place a question over progressiveness
without assuming it as being the natural
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without assuming it as being the natural
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without assuming it as being the natural
momentum of any form of activity whether
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momentum of any form of activity whether
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momentum of any form of activity whether
it's science or art or anything the
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it's science or art or anything the
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it's science or art or anything the
notion of progress implies that there's
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notion of progress implies that there's
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notion of progress implies that there's
some end points to progress you know you
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some end points to progress you know you
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some end points to progress you know you
can't have infinite progress progress
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can't have infinite progress progress
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can't have infinite progress progress
implies that there's some kind of uh
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implies that there's some kind of uh
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implies that there's some kind of uh
civilizing process and again this refers
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civilizing process and again this refers
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civilizing process and again this refers
back to kind of ideas of Enlightenment
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back to kind of ideas of Enlightenment
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back to kind of ideas of Enlightenment
you know Enlightenment is an ideology
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you know Enlightenment is an ideology
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you know Enlightenment is an ideology
it's not a natural order of things and
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it's not a natural order of things and
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it's not a natural order of things and
so we need to kind of maybe kind of
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so we need to kind of maybe kind of
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so we need to kind of maybe kind of
rethink what we think is a natural
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rethink what we think is a natural
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rethink what we think is a natural
natural progression is a term so what's
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natural progression is a term so what's
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natural progression is a term so what's
natural about progression there's
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natural about progression there's
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natural about progression there's
nothing natural about progression and
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nothing natural about progression and
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nothing natural about progression and
also the thing about progression is it
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also the thing about progression is it
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also the thing about progression is it
implies that there's some humanistic
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implies that there's some humanistic
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implies that there's some humanistic
assumption that progression is good
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assumption that progression is good
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assumption that progression is good
you can have immense you can have an
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you can have immense you can have an
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you can have immense you can have an
Enlightenment that could move towards
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Enlightenment that could move towards
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Enlightenment that could move towards
things like you know industrial genocide
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things like you know industrial genocide
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things like you know industrial genocide
it's fully fully
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it's fully fully
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it's fully fully
um it's fully uh
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um it's fully uh
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um it's fully uh
you can you can reconcile the notion of
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you can you can reconcile the notion of
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you can you can reconcile the notion of
mass genocide
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mass genocide
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mass genocide
I.E the Holocaust with principles of
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I.E the Holocaust with principles of
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I.E the Holocaust with principles of
Enlightenment they are absolutely
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Enlightenment they are absolutely
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Enlightenment they are absolutely
completely the same so so progress
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completely the same so so progress
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completely the same so so progress
doesn't necessarily mean uh progress
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doesn't necessarily mean uh progress
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doesn't necessarily mean uh progress
towards something which is kind of of
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towards something which is kind of of
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towards something which is kind of of
some you know evolutionarily sort of
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some you know evolutionarily sort of
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some you know evolutionarily sort of
positive sort of Direction I think
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positive sort of Direction I think
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positive sort of Direction I think
nature I think the concept of nature is
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nature I think the concept of nature is
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nature I think the concept of nature is
uh is a kind of a very prejudicial term
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uh is a kind of a very prejudicial term
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uh is a kind of a very prejudicial term
you know
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you know
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you know
um
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um
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um
I think uh you know
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I think uh you know
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I think uh you know
it's very it's very it's very it's kind
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it's very it's very it's very it's kind
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it's very it's very it's very it's kind
of very difficult to Define what nature
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of very difficult to Define what nature
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of very difficult to Define what nature
is really either everything is nature or
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is really either everything is nature or
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is really either everything is nature or
nothing is nature and if everything is
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nothing is nature and if everything is
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nothing is nature and if everything is
nature that includes
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nature that includes
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nature that includes
everything which is kind of supposedly
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everything which is kind of supposedly
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everything which is kind of supposedly
against nature you know atom bombs
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against nature you know atom bombs
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against nature you know atom bombs
pollution pollution is natural there's
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pollution pollution is natural there's
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pollution pollution is natural there's
nothing unnatural about pollution
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nothing unnatural about pollution
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nothing unnatural about pollution
there's nothing unnatural about climate
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there's nothing unnatural about climate
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there's nothing unnatural about climate
change there's nothing unnatural about
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change there's nothing unnatural about
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change there's nothing unnatural about
uh the acceleration of humanity towards
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uh the acceleration of humanity towards
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uh the acceleration of humanity towards
its own Extinction these things are all
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its own Extinction these things are all
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its own Extinction these things are all
utterly make natural and once you make
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utterly make natural and once you make
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utterly make natural and once you make
Arguments for nature why would you
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Arguments for nature why would you
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Arguments for nature why would you
resist nature
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resist nature
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resist nature
you know because if you resist nature
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you know because if you resist nature
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you know because if you resist nature
then you make that unnatural it's
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then you make that unnatural it's
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then you make that unnatural it's
unnatural to resist Extinction
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unnatural to resist Extinction
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unnatural to resist Extinction
Beauty I guess
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Beauty I guess
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Beauty I guess
I mean you know it's whether you're kind
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I mean you know it's whether you're kind
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I mean you know it's whether you're kind
of discussing taste or sensibility or uh
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of discussing taste or sensibility or uh
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of discussing taste or sensibility or uh
a kind of a human proportion of beauty
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a kind of a human proportion of beauty
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a kind of a human proportion of beauty
or whether you're discussing a kind of a
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or whether you're discussing a kind of a
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or whether you're discussing a kind of a
kantian Sublime notion of beauty which
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kantian Sublime notion of beauty which
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kantian Sublime notion of beauty which
is kind of like a comprehension of well
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is kind of like a comprehension of well
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is kind of like a comprehension of well
a miscomprehension of of the magnitude
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a miscomprehension of of the magnitude
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a miscomprehension of of the magnitude
of matter and the scale of things uh
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of matter and the scale of things uh
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of matter and the scale of things uh
which kind of
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which kind of
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which kind of
compel you towards a kind of a a concept
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compel you towards a kind of a a concept
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compel you towards a kind of a a concept
of death so the sublime and death are
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of death so the sublime and death are
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of death so the sublime and death are
the same so Beauty can be a kind of an
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the same so Beauty can be a kind of an
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the same so Beauty can be a kind of an
overwhelming sense of imminent Doom or
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overwhelming sense of imminent Doom or
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overwhelming sense of imminent Doom or
it can be a nice color so I guess pick
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it can be a nice color so I guess pick
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it can be a nice color so I guess pick
pick which one you want really
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