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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,417 --> 00:00:14,082 We live in an era of celebrity scandals. 2 00:00:14,083 --> 00:00:17,541 Sex sells, especially sex tapes. 3 00:00:17,542 --> 00:00:20,124 After Kim Kardashian's tape exploded onto the scene, 4 00:00:20,125 --> 00:00:22,499 there was a ton of tapes that followed 5 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:24,707 from a ton of different characters in Hollywood. 6 00:00:26,792 --> 00:00:28,499 Colin Farrell. 7 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:31,374 Nicole kept the tape, and Colin just assumed 8 00:00:31,375 --> 00:00:33,832 that she would be honorable and not do anything with it. 9 00:00:33,833 --> 00:00:36,916 She starts tossing the idea around. 10 00:00:36,917 --> 00:00:38,249 We're gonna take you to see the tape. 11 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:39,499 Put a bandana over my head, 12 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:42,374 and I was thrown in a hatchback of a Honda. 13 00:00:42,375 --> 00:00:45,582 Drugs, paranoid. She's flipping out. 14 00:00:45,583 --> 00:00:47,207 Everything exploded. 15 00:00:49,333 --> 00:00:51,832 Screech had a porn tape that I did not watch. 16 00:00:51,833 --> 00:00:53,082 I was very upset and very disappointed 17 00:00:53,083 --> 00:00:54,999 in my friend Dustin, 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,917 and I even asked him, "Why are you doing it?" 19 00:00:57,042 --> 00:00:58,832 He says, "Well, I need to get back out there." 20 00:00:58,833 --> 00:00:59,999 Montana Fishburne. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,166 She was straight up being like, 22 00:01:02,167 --> 00:01:04,874 "I'm doing this to be famous. This worked for Kim, 23 00:01:04,875 --> 00:01:06,124 and now it's gonna work for me." 24 00:01:06,125 --> 00:01:09,791 So, now it's a celebrity sex tape broker 25 00:01:09,792 --> 00:01:11,624 a celebrity sex tape broker. 26 00:01:11,625 --> 00:01:14,082 And I see this nutty guy with guns and all kinds of [bleep]. 27 00:01:14,083 --> 00:01:15,874 I'm like, whoa. 28 00:01:15,875 --> 00:01:18,999 Did you find Nicole? 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,499 Did you find her? 30 00:01:41,708 --> 00:01:43,832 Look, if you owned this guy, 31 00:01:43,833 --> 00:01:45,666 you're a bit of a creepozoid, right? 32 00:01:45,667 --> 00:01:47,874 Like, this is--this is a little spy camera-y. 33 00:01:47,875 --> 00:01:50,749 I didn't have this. Yeah. Like-- 34 00:01:50,750 --> 00:01:53,832 Oh. Oh, wait, I did. I did have this. 35 00:01:55,625 --> 00:01:58,500 Classic MiniDV camera. 36 00:01:58,625 --> 00:02:00,208 Oh-hoo-hoo. 37 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:02,166 What is a DV? 38 00:02:02,167 --> 00:02:05,166 In the early 2000s, new boundaries were set 39 00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:08,083 around sexuality and the expression of sex. 40 00:02:08,208 --> 00:02:11,457 It's okay to explore sex in art, in entertainment. 41 00:02:11,458 --> 00:02:15,332 It's okay to explore sex in your personal space. 42 00:02:15,333 --> 00:02:18,332 This is a sexy, sneaky little guy. 43 00:02:18,333 --> 00:02:21,082 I can definitely imagine somebody hiding one of these. 44 00:02:21,083 --> 00:02:22,207 This--This is definitely something 45 00:02:22,208 --> 00:02:24,000 you could hide in the nightstand. 46 00:02:24,125 --> 00:02:27,041 More and more people had these kind of cameras, 47 00:02:27,042 --> 00:02:30,083 and people by this point are far more comfortable 48 00:02:30,208 --> 00:02:32,542 with being in front of a camera. 49 00:02:32,667 --> 00:02:35,749 So many people have access to technology, filming themselves, 50 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:39,208 and they might feel comfortable having sex on camera 51 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:41,250 when things are going well in their relationship. 52 00:02:41,375 --> 00:02:43,624 Many people in America film themselves having sex. 53 00:02:43,625 --> 00:02:45,082 That's a reality. 54 00:02:45,083 --> 00:02:47,374 There's nothing inherently wrong with doing that. 55 00:02:47,375 --> 00:02:50,291 But in these cases that we're talking about, 56 00:02:50,292 --> 00:02:53,457 these celebrity sex tapes, not everyone was consenting. 57 00:02:53,458 --> 00:02:55,707 There's a lot of coercion happening, 58 00:02:55,708 --> 00:02:58,374 and some of these were private moments 59 00:02:58,375 --> 00:03:01,082 that were never intended to be made public. 60 00:03:05,958 --> 00:03:07,999 Each time you start to film, like, a new film, 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,166 you wear--you have special underpants, 62 00:03:09,167 --> 00:03:10,666 like good luck underpants? - I do, darlin'. 63 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:13,707 - Can you talk about that? - Shamrocks, Yeah, pretty simple. 64 00:03:13,708 --> 00:03:15,707 Colin Farrell is the coolest person on the planet. 65 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:22,749 Colin Farrell had a sex tape? No, I did not know that. 66 00:03:22,750 --> 00:03:25,332 You mean to say that a handsome A-list actor 67 00:03:25,333 --> 00:03:27,999 has sex with a hot Black chick? 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,666 Tell me more. I'm here for it. 69 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:33,375 I don't know anything about the Colin Farrell sex tape. 70 00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:35,749 Is that a real thing? I like him as an actor. 71 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:37,500 He's great in "Banshees of Inisherin." 72 00:03:37,667 --> 00:03:40,167 I just don't like you no more. 73 00:03:49,583 --> 00:03:51,082 You do like me. 74 00:03:51,083 --> 00:03:55,749 You dirty boy. You're such a little, dirty, Irish little boy. 75 00:03:57,875 --> 00:04:00,499 In 2003, Colin Farrell 76 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:03,541 was coming off of a run of middling movies. 77 00:04:03,542 --> 00:04:06,457 In the mid 2000s, Colin Farrell was a bad boy. 78 00:04:06,458 --> 00:04:08,208 A bit of a drinker, bit of a party guy. 79 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:10,291 Very popular with the ladies. 80 00:04:10,292 --> 00:04:12,499 He has had those eyebrows for ages. 81 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:14,832 He was just a rough and tumble type, 82 00:04:14,833 --> 00:04:16,708 and I think he sort of reveled in that. 83 00:04:16,833 --> 00:04:19,249 He dated Britney Spears for a hot second. 84 00:04:19,250 --> 00:04:23,124 Kate Beckinsale, other celebrities. 85 00:04:23,125 --> 00:04:24,583 To me at that point, Colin Farrell 86 00:04:24,708 --> 00:04:27,457 was absolutely a sex icon. I was obsessed with him. 87 00:04:30,833 --> 00:04:32,666 -Colin! -Colin! 88 00:04:32,667 --> 00:04:34,499 To your left! 89 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:35,916 Colin, to your right! 90 00:04:35,917 --> 00:04:39,207 He was incredibly attractive. Yeah. 91 00:04:39,208 --> 00:04:40,999 I am Nicole Narain. 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,582 Last name's Narain. N-A-R-A-I-N, and I'm Miss January 2002. 93 00:04:45,583 --> 00:04:49,374 Nicole Narain, one of the most beautiful Black women-- 94 00:04:49,375 --> 00:04:51,167 No, let me just rephrase that. 95 00:04:51,292 --> 00:04:52,832 One of the most beautiful women in the business. 96 00:04:52,833 --> 00:04:55,832 Nicole, how are you? Looking beautiful. 97 00:04:55,833 --> 00:04:57,708 Nicole Narain, in the mid aughts-- 98 00:04:57,875 --> 00:05:00,666 she was a Playboy Bunny, 99 00:05:00,667 --> 00:05:03,333 and she was also a little bit of an actress. 100 00:05:03,458 --> 00:05:05,791 You could see her in an episode of "Mad TV." 101 00:05:05,792 --> 00:05:09,082 Oh, so you're the guy who wants to clean the Jacuzzi filter. 102 00:05:09,083 --> 00:05:11,875 She had minor roles in "Fear Factor." 103 00:05:14,458 --> 00:05:16,542 Stay right there, please. 104 00:05:17,833 --> 00:05:20,582 And she was on an episode of "Entourage" as well. 105 00:05:20,583 --> 00:05:21,791 - Be right back on track. - Thanks, Vince. 106 00:05:21,792 --> 00:05:25,666 Nicole, bless her heart, came out from Chicago, 107 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:27,374 was a Playmate. 108 00:05:27,375 --> 00:05:29,499 My name is Candace Smith. 109 00:05:29,500 --> 00:05:33,542 I'm an author, a comedian, and producer. 110 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:36,333 I'm a lawyer. I'm an actress. 111 00:05:36,458 --> 00:05:41,207 - You got more kids? - My girl! She's... 112 00:05:41,208 --> 00:05:43,166 I'm a [bleep] Renaissance woman. 113 00:05:43,167 --> 00:05:48,333 And I was Nicole Narain's wingwoman. 114 00:05:48,458 --> 00:05:52,332 Flunky, right-hand woman. 115 00:05:52,333 --> 00:05:56,832 Before I met Nicole, I knew who she was. 116 00:05:56,833 --> 00:06:04,499 This beautiful Blasian-- Black-Asian hot creature. 117 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:11,957 Was just [bleep] drained of any life force in her, you know? 118 00:06:11,958 --> 00:06:14,375 And it's like I feel like when we connected 119 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:16,708 was right when it was just kind of... 120 00:06:16,833 --> 00:06:19,832 like, you know, maybe the night I met her, 121 00:06:19,833 --> 00:06:22,499 she kind of had a little bit left, 122 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:25,957 and then it just... and she took me under her wing 123 00:06:25,958 --> 00:06:29,500 into the Hollywood scene, the dark side, 124 00:06:29,667 --> 00:06:33,082 and was kind of this tour guide, telling me things 125 00:06:33,083 --> 00:06:35,207 and exposing certain things 126 00:06:35,208 --> 00:06:38,582 and pushing me in that direction. 127 00:06:38,583 --> 00:06:41,332 And we're hot. You know, everyone wants us everywhere. 128 00:06:41,333 --> 00:06:43,042 We're at the Playboy Mansion 129 00:06:43,167 --> 00:06:45,916 in coordinated lingerie outfits. 130 00:06:50,875 --> 00:06:55,416 In July of 2002, Nicole Narain met Colin Farrell 131 00:06:55,417 --> 00:06:59,124 at a Playboy Mansion party. - ♪ Hey, hey, hey 132 00:06:59,125 --> 00:07:01,499 We'd be up at the Playboy Mansion. 133 00:07:01,500 --> 00:07:04,457 It was amazing. I mean, you had Leonardo DiCaprio. 134 00:07:04,458 --> 00:07:05,999 You had Jim Carrey. You had Jack Nicholson, 135 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,041 You had--I mean, big, big, big stars were up there. 136 00:07:08,042 --> 00:07:10,791 They're talented and incredible and ambitious, 137 00:07:10,792 --> 00:07:12,332 and we're young and beautiful, 138 00:07:12,333 --> 00:07:14,208 and it just-- match made in heaven. 139 00:07:14,333 --> 00:07:16,166 It was fun. 140 00:07:16,167 --> 00:07:18,624 Leonardo bought me toilet paper 141 00:07:18,625 --> 00:07:20,832 so I could pee behind a 7-Eleven. 142 00:07:20,833 --> 00:07:23,499 You know what I'm saying? 143 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:26,624 Talk about being at a party at the Playmate Mansion. 144 00:07:26,625 --> 00:07:28,875 What's special about a party at the Playmate Mansion? 145 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,291 Do you want the sugar-coated answer or the... 146 00:07:31,292 --> 00:07:33,124 - Both. - ...more candid answer? 147 00:07:36,542 --> 00:07:38,916 Actors just circulated through there. 148 00:07:38,917 --> 00:07:41,957 So, if you're the Playmate of the Month or the Year, 149 00:07:41,958 --> 00:07:44,499 it's like, boom, you know? And so Nicole, for a while, 150 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:49,041 she was that hot prize party girl. 151 00:07:49,042 --> 00:07:51,832 So, now we're in Hollywood in this scene, 152 00:07:51,833 --> 00:07:54,333 and you're popping a lot of pills. 153 00:07:54,542 --> 00:07:56,124 We're drinking a lot. 154 00:07:56,125 --> 00:07:58,999 You know, it's like [bleep] Hep C everywhere. 155 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,917 It's like nasty, fake tans 156 00:08:01,042 --> 00:08:03,749 and hair extensions laying on the ground, 157 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:06,166 people [bleep] in the pool. 158 00:08:06,167 --> 00:08:12,832 You know, it becomes this haze of party, nightclub, 159 00:08:12,833 --> 00:08:15,167 Hollywood Hills, 160 00:08:15,292 --> 00:08:19,374 stay up for three days, crash. 161 00:08:22,917 --> 00:08:29,666 And Colin collided, and they're two hot [bleep]. It's exotic. 162 00:08:29,667 --> 00:08:31,499 They both have this, like, 163 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:35,041 bad girl, bad boy thing going on. 164 00:08:35,042 --> 00:08:38,791 But I feel like they had a real connection. 165 00:08:40,708 --> 00:08:42,499 They only dated for a few months. 166 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:45,832 They decided to make love on videotape. 167 00:08:45,833 --> 00:08:49,666 The video between Colin and Nicole Narain 168 00:08:49,667 --> 00:08:51,666 was a private video. 169 00:08:51,667 --> 00:08:53,457 They were both aware that the video was being made. 170 00:08:53,458 --> 00:08:55,291 They both participated happily. 171 00:08:58,667 --> 00:09:03,541 The sex tape is hot. I remember wishing it was better quality. 172 00:09:03,542 --> 00:09:05,666 Uh, the creative in me. 173 00:09:05,667 --> 00:09:08,166 I'm like, [bleep]. What the [bleep]? 174 00:09:08,167 --> 00:09:12,000 Who's holding the camera? [bleep], why are you shaking?! 175 00:09:12,125 --> 00:09:14,332 I'm like, the audio. [bleep]! You know what I mean? 176 00:09:14,333 --> 00:09:16,207 It's just like, what the [bleep]? 177 00:09:16,208 --> 00:09:18,916 You know? These two hot [bleep]. 178 00:09:18,917 --> 00:09:22,999 What we could have done! You know? 179 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,457 Sex, drugs, rock and roll are fun 180 00:09:25,458 --> 00:09:27,583 maybe for a night, maybe two nights. 181 00:09:27,708 --> 00:09:29,207 But a lifestyle of sex, drugs, and rock and roll 182 00:09:29,208 --> 00:09:31,582 isn't realistic for anyone. 183 00:09:31,583 --> 00:09:33,000 It's not a matter of if you'll be burned out. 184 00:09:33,167 --> 00:09:34,666 It's a matter of when you'll be burned out. 185 00:09:34,667 --> 00:09:38,917 I feel like he genuinely loved Nicole, 186 00:09:39,083 --> 00:09:44,707 but late night parties, Playmates, hookers, after hours, 187 00:09:44,708 --> 00:09:49,750 everybody's in everybody's ear, doing drugs, paranoid. 188 00:09:49,875 --> 00:09:54,999 She's flipping out. Colin's distancing himself from her. 189 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,542 Everything exploded. 190 00:09:58,583 --> 00:10:00,041 And then they broke up. 191 00:10:04,667 --> 00:10:06,167 And I think Nicole kept the tape, 192 00:10:06,292 --> 00:10:08,041 and Colin just assumed 193 00:10:08,042 --> 00:10:11,000 that she would be honorable and not do anything with it. 194 00:10:11,208 --> 00:10:13,707 But my understanding is she needed money, 195 00:10:13,708 --> 00:10:15,000 and she needed money fast. 196 00:10:15,208 --> 00:10:17,332 So, this property that she had, the video, 197 00:10:17,333 --> 00:10:20,791 she made a decision of trying to market it, trying to sell it. 198 00:10:20,792 --> 00:10:23,374 And I feel like it just kind of went in that direction, like, 199 00:10:23,375 --> 00:10:27,041 "If I'm not good enough for you to marry or have a baby with, 200 00:10:27,042 --> 00:10:30,708 then I can at least make some money and do my thing." 201 00:10:30,875 --> 00:10:33,082 I think that was kind of her mentality. 202 00:10:33,083 --> 00:10:36,832 You know, she starts tossing the idea around. 203 00:10:36,833 --> 00:10:39,791 People are talking about it, you know? 204 00:10:39,792 --> 00:10:42,499 She's at the parties in the Hollywood Hills. 205 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:45,124 Oh, this person from here talked to this person, that person. 206 00:10:45,125 --> 00:10:46,208 It starts expanding. 207 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,333 And I think it's just crazy how [bleep] up 208 00:10:53,458 --> 00:10:55,832 the whole situation got. 209 00:10:55,833 --> 00:10:59,332 They put a bandana on me. And I hear, 210 00:10:59,333 --> 00:11:01,625 "Let me tell you something, young man. You wanna get hurt?" 211 00:11:07,208 --> 00:11:09,457 Nicole and I--we were glued to each other's hip, 212 00:11:09,458 --> 00:11:11,332 drinking a lot. 213 00:11:11,333 --> 00:11:15,624 We're doing a lot of [bleep] blow. There's pills. 214 00:11:15,625 --> 00:11:17,499 I don't even know what the [bleep] that is. 215 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:20,249 I'm thinking... 216 00:11:20,250 --> 00:11:23,582 I might have to get off of this ride. 217 00:11:23,583 --> 00:11:25,749 I wanted us to go 218 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:27,916 in a completely different direction. 219 00:11:27,917 --> 00:11:30,082 I contacted a production company. 220 00:11:30,083 --> 00:11:33,624 We shot a pilot for a reality show 221 00:11:33,625 --> 00:11:36,957 with the two of us, with me being her manager. 222 00:11:36,958 --> 00:11:39,874 It could have [bleep] gone somewhere, 223 00:11:39,875 --> 00:11:43,208 but then it just started getting really [bleep] crazy. 224 00:11:43,333 --> 00:11:45,499 Wow. 225 00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:48,124 Now this-- this is still used today. 226 00:11:48,125 --> 00:11:49,582 People are still using these everywhere. 227 00:11:49,583 --> 00:11:51,249 Carl Zeiss lens. 228 00:11:51,250 --> 00:11:52,832 Yeah, there was a lot of sex tapes made 229 00:11:52,833 --> 00:11:54,374 with this particular camera. 230 00:11:54,375 --> 00:11:57,499 Wow. It's just a little bit bigger than your iPhone. 231 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:00,832 I had a situation arise where I got a call. 232 00:12:00,833 --> 00:12:02,083 It was very cryptic. 233 00:12:02,208 --> 00:12:03,749 And the guy says, "Is this Kevin Blatt? K.B.?" 234 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:05,332 I'm like, "Yeah." 235 00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:07,124 "The celebrity sex tape broker?" 236 00:12:07,125 --> 00:12:08,999 I'm like, "Yeah, how can I help you?" 237 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,791 "Well, I have an A-list actor with a B-list model." 238 00:12:11,792 --> 00:12:13,916 And I said, "Okay, who are we talking about here?" 239 00:12:13,917 --> 00:12:16,249 He said, "I can't say. Can you meet me 240 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:17,999 at Mel's Drive-in on Sunset in two hours?" 241 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,749 The guy told me he'd be wearing 242 00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:22,000 an orange John Deere hat and a parka. 243 00:12:22,167 --> 00:12:24,166 And when I went there, I showed up. 244 00:12:24,167 --> 00:12:26,666 Like, who are you at, Elmer Fudd? 245 00:12:26,667 --> 00:12:28,167 The guy said, "Hey, just sit tight. 246 00:12:28,292 --> 00:12:30,416 My partner's coming. Order some cheesecake. 247 00:12:30,417 --> 00:12:33,833 He'll be right with us." And I'm like, cheesecake? 248 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,291 I'm lactose-intolerant. Like, I don't eat cheesecake. 249 00:12:36,292 --> 00:12:37,916 And the guy showed up. 250 00:12:37,917 --> 00:12:40,957 He looks at me and he goes, "Look, it's Colin Farrell, 251 00:12:40,958 --> 00:12:44,166 and he's with a Playmate named Nicole Narain." 252 00:12:44,167 --> 00:12:46,667 They go, "We want $1.2 million for it." 253 00:12:46,792 --> 00:12:49,041 And I said, "Wow, that's interesting." 254 00:12:50,833 --> 00:12:52,499 So, he leans over. 255 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:54,957 He goes, "Listen, we're gonna take you to see the tape." 256 00:12:54,958 --> 00:12:56,666 They put a bandana over my head, 257 00:12:56,667 --> 00:12:58,707 and I was thrown in a hatchback of a Honda 258 00:12:58,708 --> 00:13:00,333 and driven up Sunset Plaza. 259 00:13:00,458 --> 00:13:03,667 It was like this big, old Hollywood house. 260 00:13:03,792 --> 00:13:06,000 And I walked in, they popped this tape in, 261 00:13:06,125 --> 00:13:08,416 and there was Colin Farrell, 262 00:13:08,417 --> 00:13:11,457 and he was naked, and he was smoking a cigarette, 263 00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:13,332 holding a Guinness beer. 264 00:13:13,333 --> 00:13:17,041 And you see the schlong, and you're like, [bleep]. 265 00:13:17,042 --> 00:13:18,416 Does he breathe through that thing? 266 00:13:20,542 --> 00:13:23,999 I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna make a couple calls for you." 267 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,457 I go home. I start making my phone calls, 268 00:13:27,458 --> 00:13:28,749 and the next day I get a call. 269 00:13:28,750 --> 00:13:30,250 And I hear, 270 00:13:30,375 --> 00:13:31,916 "Let me tell you something, young man. You wanna get hurt?" 271 00:13:31,917 --> 00:13:33,957 I go, "Who is this?" 272 00:13:33,958 --> 00:13:35,583 He goes, "This is David Hans Schmidt. 273 00:13:35,708 --> 00:13:38,457 You're trying to-- to step on my turf, bro. 274 00:13:38,458 --> 00:13:40,832 And I got them a deal with that Colin Farrell tape, 275 00:13:40,833 --> 00:13:43,041 and you better back off, or you're gonna get hurt." 276 00:13:43,042 --> 00:13:44,791 And then I Google this guy, 277 00:13:44,792 --> 00:13:46,332 and I see this nutty guy with guns 278 00:13:46,333 --> 00:13:48,875 and all kinds of [bleep]. I'm like, whoa. 279 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,541 I'm like, okay, now I just got threatened. 280 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:54,792 David Hans Schmidt was a celebrity sex tape broker 281 00:13:54,958 --> 00:13:56,333 based in Phoenix. 282 00:13:58,042 --> 00:13:59,957 David Hans Schmidt was a larger-than-life character. 283 00:13:59,958 --> 00:14:02,499 He was loud. He would talk. 284 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:04,166 He loved himself. 285 00:14:04,167 --> 00:14:06,999 America, if you want to see O.J. Unveiled, okay, 286 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 the real, true O.J. Simpson, 287 00:14:09,125 --> 00:14:11,332 go to OJ--badoj.com, and you'll see it. 288 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:14,833 He was boastful. He was energetic. 289 00:14:14,958 --> 00:14:17,250 He was just like a magnetic, 290 00:14:17,417 --> 00:14:19,957 sort of black hole personality that sucked everything in. 291 00:14:19,958 --> 00:14:21,999 Joe, coming up next month is a sequel. 292 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,332 O.J. does a sheep. We call it baa-d OJ.com. 293 00:14:24,333 --> 00:14:26,666 All right, we're gonna stop it right there. 294 00:14:26,667 --> 00:14:29,332 And he was contacted by 295 00:14:29,333 --> 00:14:31,457 I don't believe it was actually Nicole Narain directly. 296 00:14:31,458 --> 00:14:33,832 I think it was a friend of hers. I think she said to her friend, 297 00:14:33,833 --> 00:14:36,000 "Can you help me find someone to sell this?" 298 00:14:36,125 --> 00:14:38,166 And that got to David Hans Schmidt. 299 00:14:38,167 --> 00:14:40,291 David Hans Schmidt came up with a bright idea 300 00:14:40,292 --> 00:14:43,124 of selling and distributing the videos on the internet. 301 00:14:43,125 --> 00:14:46,332 My client was a company called Internet Commerce Group, 302 00:14:46,333 --> 00:14:49,207 and the owner of that was a guy named Sal Abbate. 303 00:14:49,208 --> 00:14:51,791 My client was approached by David Hans Schmidt to take 304 00:14:51,792 --> 00:14:54,707 content without a license and put it on a website 305 00:14:54,708 --> 00:14:56,249 and charge money to see it. 306 00:14:56,250 --> 00:14:58,333 He was the guy before there was me, 307 00:14:58,542 --> 00:15:01,666 there was a guy out there who was a celebrity sex tape guy. 308 00:15:01,667 --> 00:15:05,624 But what he did was he had partnered up with Tonya Harding, 309 00:15:05,625 --> 00:15:07,167 Paula Jones, who was embroiled 310 00:15:07,292 --> 00:15:09,582 in this scandal with Bill Clinton at the time. 311 00:15:09,583 --> 00:15:13,291 He had a bunch of what I would call "D-lebrities." 312 00:15:13,292 --> 00:15:16,999 So, now it's a celebrity sex tape broker 313 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,708 versus a celebrity sex tape broker. 314 00:15:19,833 --> 00:15:22,207 He threatened me, 315 00:15:22,208 --> 00:15:24,332 and that's when I picked up the phone, 316 00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:29,457 and I looked up CAA, the agency that represents Farrell, 317 00:15:29,458 --> 00:15:31,916 found his agent, left a message for him. 318 00:15:31,917 --> 00:15:34,332 The next thing you know, I'm on a conference call. 319 00:15:34,333 --> 00:15:36,916 He's calling his agent, manager, lawyers. 320 00:15:36,917 --> 00:15:38,833 There's probably six people on a call. 321 00:15:38,958 --> 00:15:41,833 He was in Miami filming "Miami Vice" at the time. 322 00:15:41,958 --> 00:15:43,832 They get me on the phone, and I basically say, 323 00:15:43,833 --> 00:15:45,208 "Okay, Mr. Farrell, this is the situation. 324 00:15:45,375 --> 00:15:46,832 Do you remember filming the movie 'Daredevil' 325 00:15:46,833 --> 00:15:48,832 out in Los Angeles in this year?" 326 00:15:48,833 --> 00:15:50,375 Says, "Yeah." 327 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:52,000 "Do you remember linking up with a woman 328 00:15:52,167 --> 00:15:54,791 who was a former Playmate-- 329 00:15:54,792 --> 00:15:56,374 Black girl by the name of Nicole Narain?" 330 00:15:56,375 --> 00:16:00,124 And the whole conversation gets quiet, 331 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:02,666 and then I hear, "Oh, for [bleep] sake. 332 00:16:02,667 --> 00:16:04,249 What the [bleep] do I do now?" 333 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:06,957 Like, "You're gonna hire this lawyer, 334 00:16:06,958 --> 00:16:08,667 and we're gonna get you protected. 335 00:16:08,875 --> 00:16:10,249 We're gonna make it go away." 336 00:16:10,250 --> 00:16:13,791 And that's how I kind of got into this journey 337 00:16:13,792 --> 00:16:15,666 of working on the other side of the desk. 338 00:16:15,667 --> 00:16:18,082 What that really means is kind of a Hollywood fixer. 339 00:16:18,083 --> 00:16:20,417 I make bad things go away for celebrities 340 00:16:20,542 --> 00:16:22,457 and people that are powerful in this town. 341 00:16:22,458 --> 00:16:24,541 Colin Farrell filed a lawsuit when he found out 342 00:16:24,542 --> 00:16:26,125 that his ex-girlfriend had their sex tape 343 00:16:26,250 --> 00:16:28,124 and was trying to sell it. 344 00:16:38,208 --> 00:16:40,042 Colin Farrell was represented by a very famous lawyer 345 00:16:40,167 --> 00:16:41,707 named Marty Singer. 346 00:16:41,708 --> 00:16:44,541 So, his number one goal was, "Let's keep this under wraps." 347 00:16:44,542 --> 00:16:46,416 He wanted an injunction. He wanted the court to order 348 00:16:46,417 --> 00:16:48,375 that nobody was allowed to see this video. 349 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:50,291 No one was allowed to distribute it. 350 00:16:50,292 --> 00:16:52,374 His main focus was just keeping this toothpaste 351 00:16:52,375 --> 00:16:54,500 in the tube, keeping the genie in the bottle. 352 00:16:54,667 --> 00:16:55,833 And the interesting thing about the Colin Farrell tape-- 353 00:16:55,958 --> 00:16:57,332 my client never bought it. 354 00:16:57,333 --> 00:17:00,124 My client was merely approached by David Hans Schmidt, 355 00:17:00,125 --> 00:17:03,499 because David Hans Schmidt essentially communicated, 356 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,791 "Hey, you have a website. Do you want to buy this tape?" 357 00:17:06,792 --> 00:17:08,708 That was the entirety of what occurred. 358 00:17:08,833 --> 00:17:09,917 And then Colin Farrell sued. 359 00:17:10,042 --> 00:17:11,999 David Hans Schmidt-- he was a hustler. 360 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,541 He was an absolute natural born hustler. 361 00:17:14,542 --> 00:17:16,333 And I don't know if he was any good at it, 362 00:17:16,458 --> 00:17:18,249 to be honest with you. I actually recall flying 363 00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:20,624 out here, um, to L.A. with him. 364 00:17:20,625 --> 00:17:22,000 He wanted to approach 365 00:17:22,125 --> 00:17:23,832 Colin Farrell's lawyers and negotiate. 366 00:17:23,833 --> 00:17:25,957 I remember I took a picture of him. 367 00:17:25,958 --> 00:17:27,750 He had a bowl that he filled with lemons, 368 00:17:27,917 --> 00:17:30,832 and he wrote, like, "Colin and Nicole," 369 00:17:30,833 --> 00:17:32,332 and he used it as a prop 370 00:17:32,333 --> 00:17:35,332 to go to Colin Farrell's lawyer's office in Century City 371 00:17:35,333 --> 00:17:38,374 and said, "Let's make lemonade. We've got lemons." 372 00:17:38,375 --> 00:17:40,708 And he was just that kind of-- he thought it was funny. 373 00:17:42,667 --> 00:17:44,499 When a new lawsuit's filed, you always meet with a client 374 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:46,249 and you say, "Okay, what's your strategy? 375 00:17:46,250 --> 00:17:47,875 What do you wanna do? What's your goal? 376 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,375 Do you wanna fight this 377 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:50,791 and get a lot of media attention out of it? 378 00:17:50,792 --> 00:17:52,082 Do you wanna try to quietly settle? 379 00:17:52,083 --> 00:17:55,291 As it turns out, my client was very happy to fight, 380 00:17:55,292 --> 00:17:57,291 did not wanna settle, 381 00:17:57,292 --> 00:17:58,667 wanted to get some media attention out of it, 382 00:17:58,792 --> 00:18:01,291 because that can be more valuable than the legal fees. 383 00:18:01,292 --> 00:18:02,499 My client was trying to make money and was-- 384 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:04,541 and was trying to do it above board legally. 385 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:08,374 Nicole Narain was part of the Colin Farrell case as well, 386 00:18:08,375 --> 00:18:10,166 but I didn't represent Nicole Narain. 387 00:18:10,167 --> 00:18:12,999 She was not my client, so she had her own attorney. 388 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,332 Nicole named me as 389 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:22,832 one of her advisors that was counseling her 390 00:18:22,833 --> 00:18:26,166 and procuring the sex tape. 391 00:18:26,167 --> 00:18:30,832 And the fact that I have a law degree from Northwestern 392 00:18:30,833 --> 00:18:34,957 gave my role in the debacle 393 00:18:34,958 --> 00:18:38,416 a heightened sense from everyone. 394 00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:40,332 So, everyone is looking at it 395 00:18:40,333 --> 00:18:44,582 as though it's this savvy, you know, Northwestern grad 396 00:18:44,583 --> 00:18:47,708 behind the scenes, like the puppet master, 397 00:18:47,875 --> 00:18:51,124 the mastermind, like, "Oh, yeah, I'll tell you what we'll do." 398 00:18:51,125 --> 00:18:52,791 But in reality, it's like... 399 00:18:55,458 --> 00:18:58,957 ...I was not of... clear mind and state. 400 00:18:58,958 --> 00:19:03,832 You're talking about, like, a drugged out model and actress 401 00:19:03,833 --> 00:19:07,542 that's doing music video jobs and laying on Nicole's bed 402 00:19:07,667 --> 00:19:11,999 and doing lines of blow that is "giving advice." 403 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,208 ♪ Blowing out speakers in your mind ♪ 404 00:19:15,625 --> 00:19:17,624 ♪ Blowing out speakers in your... ♪ 405 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,375 ♪ Blowing out speakers in your mind ♪ 406 00:19:29,583 --> 00:19:33,249 My boss, Maria Speth, and I flew out to New York with my client, 407 00:19:33,250 --> 00:19:35,916 and we met Colin Farrell at a law firm in a conference room 408 00:19:35,917 --> 00:19:37,874 on Easter Sunday. 409 00:19:37,875 --> 00:19:39,707 During Colin Farrell's deposition, 410 00:19:39,708 --> 00:19:42,750 he, through his lawyer, was trying to make an argument 411 00:19:42,875 --> 00:19:44,916 that this would be so devastating to his career. 412 00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:47,624 But then he was just in some movie where he was playing 413 00:19:47,625 --> 00:19:50,207 a guy that was exactly this kind of guy. 414 00:19:50,208 --> 00:19:52,541 So, does it really hurt your career that much? 415 00:19:52,542 --> 00:19:54,416 Our job was to kind of attack him. 416 00:19:54,417 --> 00:19:56,416 In fact, I remember preparing for it 417 00:19:56,417 --> 00:19:58,291 and going over his Rotten Tomatoes page, 418 00:19:58,292 --> 00:20:00,500 going over all his old movies. 419 00:20:00,625 --> 00:20:03,457 And we were trying to emphasize the point that 420 00:20:03,458 --> 00:20:05,416 the sex tape was not that out of character 421 00:20:05,417 --> 00:20:07,416 for what he was known for. 422 00:20:07,417 --> 00:20:10,582 And we were trying to show that if this video got out there, 423 00:20:10,583 --> 00:20:14,999 it wouldn't be devastating to him. 424 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,666 After a couple of hours of back and forth in this deposition, 425 00:20:18,667 --> 00:20:21,374 I think both sides just said, "Why are we doing this?" 426 00:20:21,375 --> 00:20:24,375 Colin Farrell was a really nice guy. 427 00:20:24,542 --> 00:20:26,374 And I think that was part of him being Irish. 428 00:20:26,375 --> 00:20:27,875 I think that was part of him being just a gentleman. 429 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,666 He was a gentleman. 430 00:20:29,667 --> 00:20:33,791 He emphasized over and over again, this is just private. 431 00:20:33,792 --> 00:20:37,042 This is just not something that he intended the world to see. 432 00:20:37,167 --> 00:20:39,332 And it's pretty hard to look a guy in the eye 433 00:20:39,333 --> 00:20:42,666 and say, "I don't--I don't care that you feel that way." 434 00:20:42,667 --> 00:20:45,332 He had a right to feel that way. It was his privacy. 435 00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:48,000 So, I think we kind of broke Colin Farrell down a little bit, 436 00:20:48,125 --> 00:20:49,582 and I think he kind of broke us down. 437 00:20:49,583 --> 00:20:53,957 Maria Speth and Marty Singer went into a closet-- 438 00:20:53,958 --> 00:20:55,499 literally in a closet. 439 00:20:55,500 --> 00:20:57,375 They chatted for about 10 minutes, 440 00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:59,541 and everyone was sort of whispering. 441 00:20:59,542 --> 00:21:03,167 They came back and an agreement was reached to just settle. 442 00:21:03,292 --> 00:21:05,166 And Colin Farrell did yell at me, by the way, 443 00:21:05,167 --> 00:21:06,916 in the middle of the depo, 444 00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:10,333 because outside the building there were a bunch of paparazzi. 445 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:12,832 And he wanted to know if I had leaked the location 446 00:21:12,833 --> 00:21:14,582 because nobody knew the location of the depo 447 00:21:14,583 --> 00:21:16,292 on Easter Sunday, of all things. 448 00:21:16,417 --> 00:21:18,333 I'm not gonna try and do his Irish accent. 449 00:21:18,458 --> 00:21:22,541 Gingras, did you do it, man? 450 00:21:22,542 --> 00:21:28,666 Yeah. No, no, I did--No. I-I lied to you. Um... 451 00:21:28,667 --> 00:21:31,207 The media wanted to know about this deposition, 452 00:21:31,208 --> 00:21:33,042 wanted to know where it was, 453 00:21:33,167 --> 00:21:34,999 and my client wanted the publicity. 454 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,124 And it was sort of like, 455 00:21:37,125 --> 00:21:38,750 "Hey, well, if we tell you where it is, 456 00:21:38,875 --> 00:21:40,999 can you drop our web address in the story?" 457 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,999 And so, um, I was--I was asked whether that was permitted 458 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,999 to release that information, and there was no court order 459 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,791 or other reason not to release it, so I approved it. 460 00:21:50,792 --> 00:21:53,541 I didn't do it myself, but I approved it. 461 00:21:53,542 --> 00:21:56,791 But Colin Farrell was absolutely sure I did it. 462 00:21:59,792 --> 00:22:03,291 In April of 2006, Nicole Narain and Colin Farrell 463 00:22:03,292 --> 00:22:05,500 actually came to an amicable settlement 464 00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:08,291 and reached a deal in the suit over the video. 465 00:22:08,292 --> 00:22:09,582 We just don't know what 466 00:22:09,583 --> 00:22:11,249 the details of that settlement were, 467 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:13,499 but we do know that it was never 468 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:16,541 formally placed on DVD or came out on VHS. 469 00:22:21,417 --> 00:22:23,207 I heard through the grapevine that Colin ended up, 470 00:22:23,208 --> 00:22:25,332 I think, paying them a million dollars 471 00:22:25,333 --> 00:22:28,875 to have it not go up on the celebrity website. 472 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,041 But as you know... 473 00:22:35,292 --> 00:22:36,999 ...you can't un-ring a bell. 474 00:22:39,583 --> 00:22:40,957 The tape did eventually get out. 475 00:22:40,958 --> 00:22:45,457 My recollection is a website called Dirty Colin, 476 00:22:45,458 --> 00:22:47,832 and they said, you know, "We're about to release this tape. 477 00:22:47,833 --> 00:22:50,124 Sign up here if you wanna buy it" or whatever. 478 00:22:53,417 --> 00:22:55,957 Colin Farrell--that is a very memorable sex tape 479 00:22:55,958 --> 00:22:58,499 because it was the first time I saw one of those online. 480 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:00,208 I don't know if it was ever pressed on DVD, 481 00:23:00,333 --> 00:23:01,832 but you didn't need the DVD 482 00:23:01,833 --> 00:23:04,457 'cause it was short, and it was to the point. 483 00:23:04,458 --> 00:23:06,166 It's a fun tape, you know? 484 00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:09,542 He's really kind, and he is really enthusiastic. 485 00:23:09,708 --> 00:23:12,249 He was very enthusiastic about the oral pleasure 486 00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:14,417 that he was going to perform on her. 487 00:23:14,542 --> 00:23:16,166 And there's a really famous line from the video, 488 00:23:16,167 --> 00:23:18,041 uh, where he says... 489 00:23:18,042 --> 00:23:19,457 "I could eat that [bleep] 490 00:23:19,458 --> 00:23:21,166 for breakfast, lunch and [bleep] dinner." 491 00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:22,999 And I will never forget that. 492 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,708 I wasn't like a prude, but I, like, wasn't 493 00:23:24,833 --> 00:23:26,624 super, you know, sexually experienced at all. 494 00:23:26,625 --> 00:23:30,666 Like, that was mind-blowing to me. 495 00:23:30,667 --> 00:23:32,457 And I think for that reason, 496 00:23:32,458 --> 00:23:34,624 that tape kind of became this big discussion topic. 497 00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:36,832 It is even now. You can even find columns about it 498 00:23:36,833 --> 00:23:38,832 that women have written where they say 499 00:23:38,833 --> 00:23:41,000 he became a little bit of this symbol 500 00:23:41,125 --> 00:23:43,457 of what sex should be like, 501 00:23:43,458 --> 00:23:45,791 which also goes to show the impact of sex tapes, 502 00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:47,874 that it can go in that direction, too, 503 00:23:47,875 --> 00:23:51,499 where people will take it, not unlike porn, as educational, 504 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:52,999 which isn't great generally. 505 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,749 What was most surprising to me about this video 506 00:23:54,750 --> 00:23:59,500 was the fact that the woman in the video was a Black woman. 507 00:23:59,625 --> 00:24:01,832 And that was actually very, very shocking to me. 508 00:24:01,833 --> 00:24:04,416 Here I am. I'm a teenage girl. 509 00:24:04,417 --> 00:24:07,791 To see that this celebrity, Colin Farrell, 510 00:24:07,792 --> 00:24:11,707 who I had this huge crush on, would actually, like, deign 511 00:24:11,708 --> 00:24:15,249 to date and, like, be with a Black woman 512 00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:18,999 and not just, like, see her, but also, like, engage in-- 513 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,833 in sex with her, was a very, very big deal for me. 514 00:24:24,625 --> 00:24:28,583 Some--well, it only--it only could have been Nicole Narain. 515 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:30,042 It could have been David Hans Schmidt. 516 00:24:30,167 --> 00:24:32,458 It could have been my client, if he lied about doing it, 517 00:24:32,583 --> 00:24:34,666 He swore under oath that he didn't. 518 00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:36,041 Um, it could have been Colin Farrell's lawyer. 519 00:24:36,042 --> 00:24:37,999 It could have been me, actually. 520 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,042 Now that you think about it, it could have been me. 521 00:24:40,167 --> 00:24:41,624 It wasn't me. I didn't do it. 522 00:24:41,625 --> 00:24:44,791 I swear under oath, I did not release the tape. 523 00:24:44,792 --> 00:24:46,374 No. 524 00:24:46,375 --> 00:24:49,874 Once the settlement had been reached, it kind of seemed like 525 00:24:49,875 --> 00:24:52,500 maybe there wasn't so much bad blood between the two. 526 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:54,957 Nicole Narain actually gave an interview 527 00:24:54,958 --> 00:24:58,041 to "People" Magazine where she seemed very, like, 528 00:24:58,042 --> 00:25:00,541 tongue in cheek, sort of a wink and a nod towards it. 529 00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:03,624 She said maybe they would make another tape. 530 00:25:10,167 --> 00:25:14,082 Colin Farrell--he did give one interview in 2008 531 00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:17,207 where he doesn't really go into detail or anything, 532 00:25:17,208 --> 00:25:18,916 but he does talk a little bit 533 00:25:18,917 --> 00:25:22,500 about what the experience of the deposition, uh, 534 00:25:22,625 --> 00:25:24,707 to get to the settlement was like. 535 00:25:24,708 --> 00:25:26,457 It seemed like a good idea at the time--two adults having fun. 536 00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:28,041 Ooh, a video camera, you know. 537 00:25:28,042 --> 00:25:29,333 Nothing wrong with that. 538 00:25:29,458 --> 00:25:30,708 No, there wasn't anything wrong with that. 539 00:25:30,875 --> 00:25:32,332 As long as you don't let the tape get into the wrong hands, 540 00:25:32,333 --> 00:25:34,124 Well, that's it, and at the end of the deposition, the man that 541 00:25:34,125 --> 00:25:36,124 was in charge said, "Well, you've learned your lesson, 542 00:25:36,125 --> 00:25:37,542 I hope, Mr. Farrell." And I said, "Absolutely. Next time 543 00:25:37,667 --> 00:25:40,332 I take the tape with me." 544 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:44,332 Colin Farrell's career continues going, obviously deservedly so. 545 00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:46,457 The man was just nominated for an Oscar. 546 00:25:46,458 --> 00:25:48,291 And even now, when we talk about Colin's tape, 547 00:25:48,292 --> 00:25:50,124 it's mostly positive. 548 00:25:50,125 --> 00:25:54,000 And if we talk about Nicole, we never heard from her again. 549 00:25:54,125 --> 00:25:56,749 She hasn't had a career that proliferated like his. 550 00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:59,207 Did you find Nicole? 551 00:25:59,208 --> 00:26:00,792 Did you find her? 552 00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:09,916 When a white woman does a sex tape, it's-- 553 00:26:09,917 --> 00:26:13,666 the--the--the arms of mainstream media-- 554 00:26:13,667 --> 00:26:16,333 they open up wide. You're on E! Entertainment. 555 00:26:16,458 --> 00:26:17,666 And I'm not saying that they shouldn't. 556 00:26:17,667 --> 00:26:19,291 I'm just saying, can that be extended 557 00:26:19,292 --> 00:26:21,957 across all color lines? 558 00:26:21,958 --> 00:26:24,042 You know, like, I just- I just hate that, 559 00:26:24,167 --> 00:26:27,374 when a-a-a Black woman does the same thing as a white woman, 560 00:26:27,375 --> 00:26:31,416 it just--a lot of times, it gets deemed... so low class. 561 00:26:31,417 --> 00:26:34,417 Why was this Black woman not able to do what 562 00:26:34,542 --> 00:26:36,416 a Kim Kardashian was able to do? 563 00:26:36,417 --> 00:26:38,291 There is very much a double standard 564 00:26:38,292 --> 00:26:40,332 for Black women in media. 565 00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:42,957 She's doing more and more drugs. 566 00:26:42,958 --> 00:26:46,957 She's distancing herself from me and becoming-- 567 00:26:46,958 --> 00:26:49,791 like, she's going farther and farther to the dark side. 568 00:26:49,792 --> 00:26:51,916 And I'm like, what the [bleep] is going on? 569 00:26:51,917 --> 00:26:55,624 As I recall, she was having disruptive relationships 570 00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:57,999 with sexual compulsions 571 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,042 that was beginning to have consequences. 572 00:27:00,167 --> 00:27:01,582 And there was suspicion 573 00:27:01,583 --> 00:27:04,042 of maybe some other substances involved as well. 574 00:27:04,167 --> 00:27:07,542 She's watching her back. She's, like, looking for cars. 575 00:27:07,667 --> 00:27:10,667 She's, like, freaking the [bleep] out, you know? 576 00:27:10,792 --> 00:27:12,832 And then you mix in the drugs, the alcohol, 577 00:27:12,833 --> 00:27:13,999 and it just got to the point where I was like, 578 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,041 "Dude, I can't even [bleep] be around you. 579 00:27:17,042 --> 00:27:19,832 Like, this is some weird-ass [bleep], you know?" 580 00:27:19,833 --> 00:27:21,749 So, I started pulling back. 581 00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:24,332 How bad did your addiction get, Nicole? 582 00:27:24,333 --> 00:27:26,874 I remember after the tape came out, 583 00:27:26,875 --> 00:27:30,416 Nicole did a lot of work on the reality show circuit. 584 00:27:30,417 --> 00:27:34,291 I don't want this to dictate, really, my life or who I am, 585 00:27:34,292 --> 00:27:36,332 but I really feel like I am a beautiful disaster. 586 00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:40,542 Nicole Narain was a young woman who, um, was concerned 587 00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:42,167 that her behaviors were getting out of control. 588 00:27:42,292 --> 00:27:44,541 She was my patient. 589 00:27:44,542 --> 00:27:48,457 At the time, she was relatively quiet, 590 00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:50,666 sort of lovely, like a lovely person. 591 00:27:50,667 --> 00:27:51,957 I had heard there was a sex tape. 592 00:27:51,958 --> 00:27:53,707 I don't remember her even talking about it 593 00:27:53,708 --> 00:27:55,917 in her sessions, frankly. 594 00:27:56,042 --> 00:27:59,791 But I remember her feeling exploited. 595 00:27:59,792 --> 00:28:01,624 I remember she was concerned about that, 596 00:28:01,625 --> 00:28:03,666 that she had a certain amount of shame. 597 00:28:03,667 --> 00:28:05,042 She would talk about shame 598 00:28:05,167 --> 00:28:07,124 in some of the choices she had made. 599 00:28:07,125 --> 00:28:08,874 That [bleep] got shut down so quickly, 600 00:28:08,875 --> 00:28:11,041 and you never heard of her again. 601 00:28:12,833 --> 00:28:14,832 Nicole disappeared, 602 00:28:14,833 --> 00:28:17,291 and I was always gravely concerned about that. 603 00:28:17,292 --> 00:28:18,499 I said, "Nicole, you know what? 604 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:20,082 You got this much money in the safe. 605 00:28:20,083 --> 00:28:22,750 Like, you could just go back home to Chicago. 606 00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:25,750 You could do this, this, and this." 607 00:28:25,875 --> 00:28:27,541 But you gotta think about it. Like, how do you do that? 608 00:28:30,833 --> 00:28:34,291 How do you go from that to... 609 00:28:34,292 --> 00:28:35,666 regular life? 610 00:28:37,292 --> 00:28:40,916 You know? So, now I become a bank teller back home, 611 00:28:40,917 --> 00:28:43,916 and everyone sees me when I walk in and the shame? 612 00:28:43,917 --> 00:28:47,333 I'd rather just be in the darkness and disappear. 613 00:28:48,583 --> 00:28:50,833 Did you find Nicole? 614 00:28:51,917 --> 00:28:54,124 Did you find her? 615 00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:06,457 If--If Nicole was watching this, 616 00:29:06,458 --> 00:29:10,332 what I would wanna say is, 617 00:29:10,333 --> 00:29:12,832 [bleep] from the past doesn't have to weigh you down 618 00:29:12,833 --> 00:29:14,666 until the day you die. 619 00:29:14,667 --> 00:29:16,667 It's up to you to say, "[bleep] the world" 620 00:29:16,792 --> 00:29:19,666 and--and build it back up. You know what I mean? 621 00:29:19,667 --> 00:29:21,166 That's what I would tell Nicole. 622 00:29:25,833 --> 00:29:27,957 I think what was interesting 623 00:29:27,958 --> 00:29:30,167 about this particular tape with Colin Farrell 624 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:32,332 was that it really did magnify his brand. 625 00:29:32,333 --> 00:29:34,624 But there was a point in time where sex tapes 626 00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:36,832 just became a little ridiculous. 627 00:29:36,833 --> 00:29:38,667 So, when social media started blowing up, 628 00:29:38,792 --> 00:29:40,707 and it was able to help these videos travel 629 00:29:40,708 --> 00:29:43,667 and, um, become trending topics, 630 00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:46,332 a lot of that had to do with the cringe factor. 631 00:29:46,333 --> 00:29:47,999 If it's something that stands out as a little bit odd, 632 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,667 that's what you're gonna pull at, 633 00:29:49,792 --> 00:29:51,167 and that's what you're gonna talk about. 634 00:29:55,042 --> 00:29:57,124 Screech had a sex tape? 635 00:29:57,125 --> 00:29:59,083 First of all, who the [bleep]... 636 00:29:59,208 --> 00:30:03,999 asked Dustin Diamond for a sex tape? 637 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,457 Yeah, the Dustin Diamond tape was shopped to me originally. 638 00:30:06,458 --> 00:30:09,332 I thought it was grotesque. 639 00:30:09,333 --> 00:30:11,500 My name is Lizette Santiago. 640 00:30:11,625 --> 00:30:16,707 I am an actor, voiceover actor, host, performer all around, 641 00:30:16,708 --> 00:30:20,749 and I was a dear friend of Dustin Diamond. 642 00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:24,166 Dustin Diamond was a well-known actor 643 00:30:24,167 --> 00:30:26,542 who was on a TV show for a very long time 644 00:30:26,667 --> 00:30:28,042 called "Saved by the Bell." 645 00:30:28,167 --> 00:30:31,083 And Dustin was on that show for many, many years. 646 00:30:31,208 --> 00:30:34,082 He was on that show even when it was a pilot. 647 00:30:34,083 --> 00:30:36,041 He was also the most, for me personally, 648 00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:37,499 relatable character-- 649 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,375 the dork that, like, hangs out with the cool dudes. 650 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,166 And so you can be a dork 651 00:30:41,167 --> 00:30:43,124 and still be, like, popular with that. 652 00:30:43,125 --> 00:30:44,499 Okay, so when do we start? 653 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:47,124 Well, tonight, but it has to be at my place. 654 00:30:47,125 --> 00:30:49,374 I'm not allowed out after "Alf." 655 00:30:50,875 --> 00:30:53,832 He never wanted me to call him "Screech," ever. 656 00:30:53,833 --> 00:30:55,374 I did it one time, and he was like, 657 00:30:55,375 --> 00:30:57,167 "Don't ever call me Screech again." I was like, "Why?" 658 00:30:57,292 --> 00:31:00,083 He's like, "Because my friends don't call me Screech. 659 00:31:00,208 --> 00:31:02,000 They can call me Screech. You can't." 660 00:31:02,125 --> 00:31:04,499 And I said, "Okay, well, Dustin's too long. 661 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:06,374 Can I call you Dust?" 662 00:31:06,375 --> 00:31:08,124 Dustin, for a while, 663 00:31:08,125 --> 00:31:09,957 wanted to try and separate himself from his character. 664 00:31:09,958 --> 00:31:12,000 And each attempt he made at fame 665 00:31:12,125 --> 00:31:14,332 did make him more of a "joke." 666 00:31:14,333 --> 00:31:18,082 He did a lot of work on a lot of sleazy reality shows. 667 00:31:18,083 --> 00:31:20,207 I'm not a little pipsqueak like most people would expect. 668 00:31:20,208 --> 00:31:22,332 I mean, on TV, I'm only that big. 669 00:31:22,333 --> 00:31:25,583 Dustin wanted to move on. He wanted to try something else 670 00:31:25,708 --> 00:31:27,374 other than living the life of Screech 671 00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:29,082 from "Saved by the Bell." 672 00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:32,624 He wanted to do stand-up comedy, and he wanted to do movies. 673 00:31:32,625 --> 00:31:36,166 But I don't think anybody else took him seriously. 674 00:31:36,167 --> 00:31:37,999 How many people came out tonight 675 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,541 specifically to relive some old "Saved by the Bell" memories? 676 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,166 You guys are gonna be really [bleep] disappointed. 677 00:31:45,167 --> 00:31:47,749 It's tough for people who grew up as child stars. 678 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:51,499 They'll take a lot of, um, aim at whatever they can hang on to. 679 00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:53,999 Trying to make it in stand-up, it was just another thing 680 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,624 that kind of made him a little bit of a sad story. 681 00:31:57,625 --> 00:32:00,874 And people hadn't been talking about Dustin Diamond for years, 682 00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:03,707 and all of a sudden, he made sex tape of his own. 683 00:32:03,708 --> 00:32:05,624 Yeah. Joke's on you, Jack. 684 00:32:05,625 --> 00:32:08,542 - Nobody's gonna touch this. - People were very disturbed. 685 00:32:14,458 --> 00:32:15,292 That wasn't a joke. I'm like, that close 686 00:32:15,708 --> 00:32:16,500 from tackling my own grandma. It's embarrassing, 687 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,792 is what it is. - Like, my friend Dustin? 688 00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:23,999 There was a point where he had some problems paying, 689 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,832 you know, his mortgage. 690 00:32:25,833 --> 00:32:28,291 He was trying to make money to save his house 691 00:32:28,292 --> 00:32:30,833 'cause he was on the cusp of losing it. 692 00:32:30,958 --> 00:32:32,667 He started selling T-shirts 693 00:32:32,792 --> 00:32:34,250 that said, "Save Screech's House," 694 00:32:34,375 --> 00:32:37,416 which only concerned the fans that he did have, 695 00:32:37,417 --> 00:32:41,374 and, again, made his behavior increasingly questionable. 696 00:32:41,375 --> 00:32:44,291 There was an instance when Dustin 697 00:32:44,292 --> 00:32:46,166 had stabbed someone outside of a bar, 698 00:32:46,167 --> 00:32:47,499 and he was arrested for that. 699 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,124 He had to always be safe, 700 00:32:50,125 --> 00:32:51,708 because the--the truth of the matter is 701 00:32:51,833 --> 00:32:55,832 people would sometimes try to attack him or try to insult him. 702 00:32:55,833 --> 00:32:58,416 All right, tell me about the porn video. 703 00:32:58,417 --> 00:33:00,541 You told Oprah that the porn video is one-- 704 00:33:00,542 --> 00:33:02,000 one of your biggest regrets. 705 00:33:02,125 --> 00:33:05,082 So, while Dustin, um, reveals to Oprah 706 00:33:05,083 --> 00:33:07,207 that he thought that he could maybe, um, cash out 707 00:33:07,208 --> 00:33:09,083 by making his own tape. 708 00:33:09,208 --> 00:33:11,957 My buddy said, "Where's a Screech sex tape? 709 00:33:11,958 --> 00:33:13,791 You got to be worth at least a million." 710 00:33:13,792 --> 00:33:16,083 And I thought, yeah. 711 00:33:17,667 --> 00:33:19,457 Yeah, maybe. 712 00:33:19,458 --> 00:33:22,499 When I heard about the sex tape, I like, everybody else, 713 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:26,499 found out when it came out, and I was embarrassed. 714 00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,082 He never told me about it. 715 00:33:28,083 --> 00:33:29,374 He never told me he was creating it. 716 00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:32,541 He never asked my advice, and I know why. 717 00:33:32,542 --> 00:33:34,166 Because if he probably would have brought that up to me, 718 00:33:34,167 --> 00:33:35,208 I would have been like, "No, you're not doing that. 719 00:33:35,333 --> 00:33:37,207 Are you stupid? No, come on!" 720 00:33:37,208 --> 00:33:40,499 The sex tape is titled "Screeched--Saved by the Smell." 721 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:42,208 Terrible title. 722 00:33:42,333 --> 00:33:47,332 There were two unidentified women in the tape with him. 723 00:33:47,333 --> 00:33:50,333 It was a little grainy. It was a little discolored. 724 00:33:50,458 --> 00:33:53,541 You couldn't quite tell what was going on at every moment. 725 00:33:53,542 --> 00:33:55,417 And then I would say that the other part of it 726 00:33:55,542 --> 00:33:56,917 that was such big news for everybody 727 00:33:57,042 --> 00:33:59,624 was that it featured quite a large penis. 728 00:33:59,625 --> 00:34:02,125 I--We talked about it. You know, I asked him. 729 00:34:02,250 --> 00:34:05,207 I was like, "So..." And he said, "Oh, there was this guy. 730 00:34:05,208 --> 00:34:07,083 Don't worry, though. It's all, you know, it's all fake." 731 00:34:07,208 --> 00:34:08,749 I was like, "Yeah, but everyone's talking 732 00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:13,541 about your, you know, thing, and they know that it's big." 733 00:34:13,542 --> 00:34:15,582 And I even asked him, "Why are you doing this?" 734 00:34:15,583 --> 00:34:18,124 He says, "Well, I need to get back out there. 735 00:34:18,125 --> 00:34:20,999 I want people to see this side of me." 736 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,499 He wanted attention, 737 00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,333 but he also wanted to be back on the map again. 738 00:34:25,458 --> 00:34:26,999 What if that had made $3 million? 739 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,832 Bye. That's my show. 740 00:34:28,833 --> 00:34:30,207 - Did it make $3 million? - It did not make $3 million. 741 00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:32,166 - It didn't? - No. 742 00:34:32,167 --> 00:34:34,082 Yeah. Joke's on you, Jack. Yeah, no one's-- 743 00:34:34,083 --> 00:34:38,124 no one's trying to see Screech get laid like that. 744 00:34:38,125 --> 00:34:40,249 Nobody's gonna touch this. 745 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:44,207 Of course there was a sex act in it--the Dirty Sanchez, 746 00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:47,499 which is the only thing that the media was able 747 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:49,791 to garner out of that thing that was worth anything. 748 00:34:49,792 --> 00:34:51,375 The Dustin Diamond thing 749 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:53,582 was about as big a flop as you could want. 750 00:34:53,583 --> 00:34:56,082 I don't think that video made 50 bucks. 751 00:34:56,083 --> 00:34:58,666 Dustin Diamond did eventually reveal to Oprah, 752 00:34:58,667 --> 00:35:01,666 of all people, that it was a prosthetic penis that he used. 753 00:35:01,667 --> 00:35:05,332 I thought, you know, I could totally fake this. 754 00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:08,416 I could get a stuntperson to take my place. 755 00:35:08,417 --> 00:35:10,208 It's my face, but nothing else. 756 00:35:10,333 --> 00:35:11,874 He wasn't actually nude in the sex tape. 757 00:35:11,875 --> 00:35:15,832 So, you know, so it was not much of a sex tape in the end. 758 00:35:15,833 --> 00:35:17,457 That makes it even worse. 759 00:35:17,458 --> 00:35:19,957 It's like, "Uh, I'm not in it, but [bleep] you." 760 00:35:19,958 --> 00:35:24,542 I didn't really do anything, so it's--I can wander free. 761 00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:26,249 He made this sex tape, 762 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:27,500 and I don't think it quite worked out. 763 00:35:27,625 --> 00:35:30,167 He really wasn't ever anything more than a joke. 764 00:35:30,292 --> 00:35:33,457 Do you know who I am? Do you have any idea who I am? 765 00:35:33,458 --> 00:35:37,041 You're like, "I have no idea who that guy is." 766 00:35:37,042 --> 00:35:39,874 He said to me--he's like, "You know, Lizette, 767 00:35:39,875 --> 00:35:41,874 I wish I had your life." 768 00:35:41,875 --> 00:35:44,416 And I was like, "What, are you kidding me, Dustin? 769 00:35:44,417 --> 00:35:46,499 You--You were on a show since you were a kid. 770 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:50,374 You--you had this money. You had this. You have fame." 771 00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:52,708 And he's like, "Yeah, but if I can start my life over again, 772 00:35:52,833 --> 00:35:54,333 I would start fresh." 773 00:35:54,458 --> 00:35:56,499 Dustin Diamond was hospitalized 774 00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,499 three weeks ago in Florida. 775 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:03,791 Dustin Diamond passed away in February 2021 from lung cancer. 776 00:36:03,792 --> 00:36:06,291 When he did die, it wasn't like, 777 00:36:06,292 --> 00:36:08,917 um, if an esteemed celebrity passes away, 778 00:36:09,042 --> 00:36:11,207 and all these memorials come out, 779 00:36:11,208 --> 00:36:12,666 and these beautiful obits. 780 00:36:12,667 --> 00:36:15,499 It wasn't that. A lot of it was really negative. 781 00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,332 He--He really was struggling very clearly, 782 00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:21,499 and he died because he had what's called anosognosia, 783 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:23,166 where you block what's happening. 784 00:36:23,167 --> 00:36:26,292 You don't see what's going on as a result of what you're doing. 785 00:36:26,417 --> 00:36:27,999 I mean, just the fact that he allowed 786 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,832 a tumor to grow that huge 787 00:36:29,833 --> 00:36:33,708 tells you how not connected he was to his reality. 788 00:36:35,417 --> 00:36:38,750 And it's more evidence of how people look 789 00:36:38,875 --> 00:36:41,542 at somebody like that and turn them into a cartoon figure 790 00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:43,832 and not a human being who is suffering. 791 00:36:48,208 --> 00:36:50,416 When you are involved in a scandal like this, 792 00:36:50,417 --> 00:36:52,166 it can become your legacy, 793 00:36:52,167 --> 00:36:54,374 and I think that's really unfortunate because 794 00:36:54,375 --> 00:36:57,207 while a lot of us would like to just remember him as Screech, 795 00:36:57,208 --> 00:36:59,041 some of us remember him in a whole other way, 796 00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:02,749 and I don't think he would have wanted that. 797 00:37:02,750 --> 00:37:06,874 He was so good about being good to strangers 798 00:37:06,875 --> 00:37:10,707 and other people and to his friends. Amazing. 799 00:37:10,708 --> 00:37:13,332 Dustin didn't want to h-- 800 00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:14,791 Dustin didn't wanna have his tombstone 801 00:37:14,792 --> 00:37:16,791 because he was afraid that people were gonna go 802 00:37:16,792 --> 00:37:18,291 and, like, graffiti it up 803 00:37:18,292 --> 00:37:20,582 and--and spit on him and ridicule him... 804 00:37:20,583 --> 00:37:22,708 and do all this stuff. 805 00:37:24,333 --> 00:37:27,416 It's the saddest thing to feel that way, you know? 806 00:37:27,417 --> 00:37:29,249 It's the saddest thing because if people 807 00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:31,332 really knew who he was... 808 00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:34,249 if they really knew his--his heart and his soul, 809 00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:36,667 and if he accepted it-- his heart and his soul, 810 00:37:36,792 --> 00:37:38,582 things would be so much different, 811 00:37:38,583 --> 00:37:40,916 and if people would have given him a chance 812 00:37:40,917 --> 00:37:42,749 to be someone different. 813 00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:45,207 That's the problem with Hollywood sometimes, 814 00:37:45,208 --> 00:37:48,291 and it's sad that the world kind of made him out 815 00:37:48,292 --> 00:37:51,333 to look like something I didn't know. 816 00:38:06,042 --> 00:38:07,499 There was an explosion of sex tapes in our culture 817 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:09,332 after Kim Kardashian. 818 00:38:09,333 --> 00:38:12,249 I definitely think that there were people 819 00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:14,624 who wanted to follow Kim 820 00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:17,667 by doing a sex tape just to become famous. 821 00:38:20,458 --> 00:38:23,166 In 2010, we had Montana Fishburne. 822 00:38:23,167 --> 00:38:24,708 She's the daughter of Lawrence Fishburne. 823 00:38:24,833 --> 00:38:28,582 Oh, my God. So, this is a weird one. 824 00:38:28,583 --> 00:38:33,207 So, Montana Fishburne decided she wanted to do a sex tape, 825 00:38:33,208 --> 00:38:36,166 and unlike having a Ray J shoot it, 826 00:38:36,167 --> 00:38:38,499 she decided to do it commercially 827 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:40,499 and have Vivid shoot it, 828 00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,457 where she got paid a lot of money and made the movie, 829 00:38:43,458 --> 00:38:46,416 and it was well shot. It was really well done. 830 00:38:46,417 --> 00:38:48,582 Porn. I always wanted to do porn since I was in high school. 831 00:38:48,583 --> 00:38:50,332 The tape is reportedly set 832 00:38:50,333 --> 00:38:51,707 to be released in August 833 00:38:51,708 --> 00:38:53,707 and differs from previous sex tapes 834 00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:55,166 in that Fishburne is not claiming 835 00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:57,332 her tape to be stolen and leaked. 836 00:38:57,333 --> 00:38:58,999 In the case of Montana Fishburne, 837 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,542 she was straight up being like, 838 00:39:00,667 --> 00:39:03,250 "I'm doing this to be famous. This worked for Kim, 839 00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:04,832 and now it's gonna work for me." 840 00:39:04,833 --> 00:39:07,791 Well, I don't think it was commercially successful 841 00:39:07,792 --> 00:39:11,332 because the story around Kim Kardashian was it's stolen. 842 00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:12,832 This, they didn't really have a story 843 00:39:12,833 --> 00:39:15,333 that she was in defiance of her parents. 844 00:39:15,458 --> 00:39:19,541 She was a mainstream actor's daughter, not well-known. 845 00:39:19,542 --> 00:39:22,582 She thought that she could parlay sex tape fame 846 00:39:22,583 --> 00:39:24,832 into, you know, a mainstream career, 847 00:39:24,833 --> 00:39:27,624 and that is just not what was going to happen 848 00:39:27,625 --> 00:39:30,499 for a Black woman, unfortunately. 849 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,666 And I think that because there was also nothing else 850 00:39:32,667 --> 00:39:36,124 that she was known for but being her father's daughter, 851 00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:39,082 so it was all about, this must be shameful for him. 852 00:39:39,083 --> 00:39:41,416 He must be embarrassed. Where did he go wrong as a parent? 853 00:39:41,417 --> 00:39:43,582 You know, it wasn't about her being a woman 854 00:39:43,583 --> 00:39:47,791 who had the right to make these choices and who was old enough 855 00:39:47,792 --> 00:39:50,499 to consent to say, "I'd like to do pornography," 856 00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:53,666 and it really backfired for Montana. 857 00:39:57,792 --> 00:40:01,041 Tila Tequila had a big one come out, 2011. 858 00:40:01,042 --> 00:40:03,957 Guys, come on, please. Who's the Super Bowl for you? 859 00:40:03,958 --> 00:40:06,333 Celebrity obsessions? 860 00:40:06,458 --> 00:40:08,499 The funny thing about the Tila Tequila tape 861 00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:11,582 is she had that dating show on MTV. 862 00:40:11,583 --> 00:40:13,957 It was a guilty pleasure. I actually kind of liked it. 863 00:40:13,958 --> 00:40:16,749 I remember thinking, she'd be perfect for a sex tape. 864 00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:19,499 I remember thinking that. She's perfect for a sex tape. 865 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,916 And then sure enough, it happened. 866 00:40:21,917 --> 00:40:25,333 I had a tape with her and a gentleman named Francis Ten, 867 00:40:25,458 --> 00:40:28,166 who was her boyfriend for many, many years. 868 00:40:28,167 --> 00:40:29,707 It was playful. 869 00:40:29,708 --> 00:40:32,666 It was nice. It was them on vacation once again, 870 00:40:32,667 --> 00:40:36,749 and homeboy had what Colin Farrell had in his pants. 871 00:40:36,750 --> 00:40:38,457 Like, he was really working with some stuff, 872 00:40:38,458 --> 00:40:41,916 and, uh, we approached Tila's people. 873 00:40:41,917 --> 00:40:44,832 They were defiantly trying to say, 874 00:40:44,833 --> 00:40:47,249 "No, we don't want any part of this. 875 00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:48,832 We don't give our permission." 876 00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:51,666 I took it to Steve Hirsch over at Vivid, 877 00:40:51,667 --> 00:40:54,041 and this started a whole war between me and Steven. 878 00:40:54,042 --> 00:40:56,666 I showed him this tape. 879 00:40:56,667 --> 00:40:58,666 I said, "This is the greatest sex tape I've ever seen. 880 00:40:58,667 --> 00:41:00,624 Look how playful it is. Look how great it is." 881 00:41:00,625 --> 00:41:03,291 And he goes, "I like it. I don't know. 882 00:41:03,292 --> 00:41:05,332 I'll give her $10,000." 883 00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:07,291 I said, "Are you out of your [bleep] mind? 884 00:41:07,292 --> 00:41:10,082 This is Tila Tequila. She's the biggest person on MySpace." 885 00:41:10,083 --> 00:41:13,749 MySpace, by the way, kids, was a thing back in the day. 886 00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:16,374 I end up meeting a Penthouse Pet, 887 00:41:16,375 --> 00:41:17,874 and I'm visiting with her 888 00:41:17,875 --> 00:41:19,750 and her girlfriend who's another Penthouse Pet, 889 00:41:19,875 --> 00:41:21,499 and we're all hanging out in this hotel room. 890 00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:23,416 We're having a great time. We're partying, 891 00:41:23,417 --> 00:41:25,582 and one Penthouse Pet says to me, 892 00:41:25,583 --> 00:41:27,167 "So, what are you working on, K.B.? 893 00:41:27,292 --> 00:41:28,333 Anything good with sex tapes?" 894 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,207 I go, "Yeah, I got something great." 895 00:41:30,208 --> 00:41:33,666 She goes, "Well, as long as it's not Tila Tequila, I'm okay." 896 00:41:33,667 --> 00:41:37,500 And I look at her and go, "What did you just say?" 897 00:41:37,625 --> 00:41:40,208 She said, "I just did a 3-way lesbian tape 898 00:41:40,333 --> 00:41:44,457 with this girl and this girl and Tila." 899 00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:47,499 And I'm like, okay, now I'm figuring it out. 900 00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:51,166 If I would've released this hetero tape, 901 00:41:51,167 --> 00:41:54,041 that would sell 10 times as much 902 00:41:54,042 --> 00:41:57,499 than a 3-way lesbian tape with Tila. 903 00:41:57,500 --> 00:41:59,375 So, that's why they wanted to shut it down. 904 00:41:59,542 --> 00:42:01,457 Next thing you know, Vivid comes along, 905 00:42:01,458 --> 00:42:04,833 and they put out the tape. 906 00:42:04,958 --> 00:42:06,542 You want to play that game? We were friends for a long time. 907 00:42:06,667 --> 00:42:07,457 I referred you this, referred you that. 908 00:42:07,458 --> 00:42:08,999 We'll play that game. 909 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,457 So, it kind of started an all out, uh... 910 00:42:12,458 --> 00:42:15,167 I won't say war. You know, it's business. 911 00:42:17,917 --> 00:42:21,083 Yeah, celebrities mad cheap nowadays, you know? 912 00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:22,624 It's not easy being a celebrity, 913 00:42:22,625 --> 00:42:24,499 but it's easy to become a celebrity. 914 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:26,499 Our celebrities are constantly trying to figure out 915 00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:27,999 "How do I stay relevant?" 916 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,208 And so sometimes people get really bad advice 917 00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:33,666 about things that they should do 918 00:42:33,667 --> 00:42:36,291 to stay in the minds of the public. 919 00:42:36,292 --> 00:42:37,667 You're outselling Kim Kardashian. 920 00:42:37,833 --> 00:42:41,124 - Oh. - Yeah. You made servers crash. 921 00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:44,457 Farrah Abraham is kind of a complex character. 922 00:42:44,458 --> 00:42:46,750 She is a former reality star. 923 00:42:46,875 --> 00:42:48,832 Can you turn your body towards me, please? 924 00:42:48,833 --> 00:42:50,624 I don't know if fame was what she needed, 925 00:42:50,625 --> 00:42:53,832 but it certainly had an effect on her. 926 00:42:53,833 --> 00:42:55,708 You love this! You laugh! 927 00:42:55,833 --> 00:43:00,500 The animal that reality TV made is my daughter. 928 00:43:00,625 --> 00:43:03,707 Seems there's probably a lot of pressure on girls 929 00:43:03,708 --> 00:43:06,666 to behave a certain way to stay relevant. 930 00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:08,541 I get a call from Farrah. 931 00:43:08,542 --> 00:43:10,500 I go, "Hey, what's up?" She said, "Hey, Dad. 932 00:43:10,875 --> 00:43:13,499 I'm gonna give you a heads up." 933 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,166 "I did a sex tape." 934 00:43:15,167 --> 00:43:16,708 What do you think of the title, Farrah? 935 00:43:16,875 --> 00:43:18,999 The title's not something I'm for, 936 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,124 but I'm not used to that industry. 937 00:43:22,125 --> 00:43:24,124 The wizard was revealed behind the curtain. 938 00:43:24,125 --> 00:43:26,166 It was like, "Oh, yeah, this is all fake." 939 00:43:26,167 --> 00:43:28,332 Okay, so, you know, you have celebrity sex tape, okay. 940 00:43:28,333 --> 00:43:30,874 - Well, who's the celebrity? - I am. 941 00:43:30,875 --> 00:43:33,041 I consider the death of the celebrity sex tape 942 00:43:33,042 --> 00:43:35,124 happened when Farrah Abraham put out her product. 76407

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