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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,655 --> 00:00:23,655 Bernie de la Rionda on behalf of the state of Florida 2 00:00:23,724 --> 00:00:25,034 with John Guy. 3 00:00:25,103 --> 00:00:26,453 Attorney Benjamin Crump 4 00:00:26,517 --> 00:00:29,927 on behalf of Trayvon Martin's family. 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Ms. Fulton, would you raise your right hand, please? 6 00:00:32,827 --> 00:00:35,547 My job is getting some information, okay? 7 00:00:35,620 --> 00:00:37,450 Okay. 8 00:00:37,517 --> 00:00:39,277 Usually when I get home from work, 9 00:00:39,344 --> 00:00:41,974 Trayvon is there at the door. 10 00:00:47,103 --> 00:00:49,623 Do you want to take just a couple minutes? 11 00:00:49,689 --> 00:00:52,379 Might be a good time for a few. Should we do that? 12 00:00:52,448 --> 00:00:53,998 Yeah, why don't we just take a few minutes? 13 00:00:54,068 --> 00:00:56,138 Off work, 11:23 a.m. 14 00:00:56,206 --> 00:00:59,136 Mr. Martin, would you raise your right hand, please? 15 00:00:59,206 --> 00:01:00,926 I placed a call trying to file 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,480 a missing-persons report. 17 00:01:02,551 --> 00:01:03,931 How long has he been missing for? 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,340 Since last night. 19 00:01:05,413 --> 00:01:07,343 And what's his name? 20 00:01:07,413 --> 00:01:08,793 Trayvon Martin. - Trayvon Martin. 21 00:01:08,862 --> 00:01:10,762 Trayvon Martin of Miami... 22 00:01:10,827 --> 00:01:12,547 High-school junior dreamed of becoming a pilot. 23 00:01:12,620 --> 00:01:14,380 Trayvon Martin, a Miami teenager, 24 00:01:14,448 --> 00:01:15,968 was coming from the store, from the 7-Eleven... 25 00:01:16,034 --> 00:01:17,554 Did Trayvon Martin ask if you wanted anything 26 00:01:17,620 --> 00:01:19,380 before he left for the store? - Yes. 27 00:01:19,448 --> 00:01:22,448 And what was that? Skittles 28 00:01:22,517 --> 00:01:25,617 We are Trayvon! We are Trayvon! 29 00:01:25,689 --> 00:01:27,279 Sanford Police Department. 30 00:01:27,344 --> 00:01:29,144 Line's being recorded. This is Sean. 31 00:01:29,206 --> 00:01:31,616 Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, 32 00:01:31,689 --> 00:01:33,519 and there's a real suspicious guy. 33 00:01:33,586 --> 00:01:35,756 26-year-old George Zimmerman. 34 00:01:35,827 --> 00:01:37,337 Zimmerman was acting in his role 35 00:01:37,413 --> 00:01:38,973 as a neighborhood watch member. 36 00:01:39,034 --> 00:01:40,904 Okay, and this guy, is he White, 37 00:01:40,965 --> 00:01:43,305 black or Hispanic? - He looks black. 38 00:01:43,379 --> 00:01:44,999 Did you see what he was wearing? 39 00:01:45,068 --> 00:01:46,548 A dark hoodie. 40 00:01:46,620 --> 00:01:49,830 Just because someone wears a hoodie 41 00:01:49,896 --> 00:01:51,996 does not make them a hoodlum. 42 00:01:53,517 --> 00:01:55,827 May God bless Trayvon Martin. 43 00:01:55,896 --> 00:01:58,376 Voices from all over America speaking out. 44 00:01:58,448 --> 00:02:00,378 Florida's stand-your-ground law... 45 00:02:00,448 --> 00:02:04,098 As members of the NRA, we stand our ground. 46 00:02:04,172 --> 00:02:07,412 The law gives people the right and kill 17... 47 00:02:07,482 --> 00:02:09,242 Our family has been threatened, 48 00:02:09,310 --> 00:02:11,410 and I refuse to give you my address. 49 00:02:11,482 --> 00:02:13,032 White power! White power! 50 00:02:13,103 --> 00:02:16,033 You're aware that you may be subject to contempt 51 00:02:16,103 --> 00:02:17,793 for refusing to answer questions? 52 00:02:17,862 --> 00:02:21,212 Yes, and I'm not giving my address. 53 00:02:21,275 --> 00:02:24,025 Well, we'll see what we can do. 54 00:02:24,103 --> 00:02:26,213 These assholes, they always get away. 55 00:02:26,275 --> 00:02:28,825 Residents heard loud yelling and called 911 56 00:02:28,896 --> 00:02:30,616 for the Sanford Police. 57 00:02:30,689 --> 00:02:33,339 911, do you need police, fire, or medical? 58 00:02:33,413 --> 00:02:35,283 Maybe both, I'm not sure. 59 00:02:35,344 --> 00:02:37,904 There's just someone screaming outside. 60 00:02:37,965 --> 00:02:42,275 That he went home that day, and my son did not. 61 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,790 We came for permanent justice. 62 00:02:46,862 --> 00:02:48,932 Our son was not committing any crime, 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,340 and our son is your son. 64 00:02:51,413 --> 00:02:54,343 There's someone screaming outside. 65 00:02:54,413 --> 00:02:55,763 All right, what is-- 66 00:02:55,827 --> 00:03:00,027 Black lives matter! Black lives matter! 67 00:03:00,103 --> 00:03:03,973 The American Dream... 68 00:03:04,034 --> 00:03:04,974 is dead. 69 00:03:28,931 --> 00:03:32,791 We used to call him Crazy Legs. 70 00:03:32,862 --> 00:03:36,622 He wanted to do everything. 71 00:03:36,689 --> 00:03:40,279 He was like that glow. 72 00:03:42,482 --> 00:03:47,762 I just remember Trayvon being so affectionate. 73 00:03:47,827 --> 00:03:52,137 You felt like everybody was his friend. 74 00:03:52,206 --> 00:03:54,656 When you watch your child grow up 75 00:03:54,724 --> 00:03:58,694 and you notice the little whiskers on his chin, 76 00:03:58,758 --> 00:04:00,478 as a father, 77 00:04:00,551 --> 00:04:04,341 I could see myself in him. 78 00:04:19,862 --> 00:04:21,592 The first thing that come out of my mouth 79 00:04:21,655 --> 00:04:25,615 every morning is my son's name. 80 00:04:25,689 --> 00:04:29,899 Although I didn't ask to be here... 81 00:04:29,965 --> 00:04:33,095 I'm here now. 82 00:04:33,172 --> 00:04:35,142 I have my moments 83 00:04:35,206 --> 00:04:38,306 where, you know, I want to get off in a corner 84 00:04:38,379 --> 00:04:41,829 or in a closet, dark corner, and just crawl up, ball up, 85 00:04:41,896 --> 00:04:44,276 and just cry. 86 00:04:47,068 --> 00:04:50,928 But at the end of the day, I got to toughen up. 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,070 You got to tough it out. 88 00:04:58,344 --> 00:05:02,524 The life I used to have is absolutely gone. 89 00:05:05,551 --> 00:05:09,071 They say that time heals all wounds. 90 00:05:09,137 --> 00:05:12,027 It does not. 91 00:05:12,103 --> 00:05:15,793 Had the tragedy not been so public, 92 00:05:15,862 --> 00:05:19,412 I probably would've taken more time to grieve. 93 00:05:19,482 --> 00:05:23,412 But I wasn't given that type of privilege. 94 00:05:28,965 --> 00:05:32,405 It was just a regular Monday. 95 00:05:32,482 --> 00:05:35,792 I remember getting in. I remember having coffee. 96 00:05:35,862 --> 00:05:38,762 I remember sitting at my desk 97 00:05:38,827 --> 00:05:41,477 when I received the initial phone call from Tracy. 98 00:05:43,137 --> 00:05:47,167 And he said that Trayvon didn't come home. 99 00:05:47,241 --> 00:05:49,931 Seminole County Sheriff's Office. 100 00:06:08,068 --> 00:06:10,098 We knew where he was at all times. 101 00:06:10,172 --> 00:06:11,862 It wasn't a day that went by 102 00:06:11,931 --> 00:06:14,341 that we didn't know where Trayvon was. 103 00:06:17,103 --> 00:06:19,723 He was 17 years old, 104 00:06:19,793 --> 00:06:24,383 transforming from a boy to a young man. 105 00:06:26,689 --> 00:06:28,169 There were more showers. 106 00:06:28,241 --> 00:06:30,241 Now you want to put on cologne. 107 00:06:30,310 --> 00:06:33,410 And now I don't have to take you to get a haircut. 108 00:06:34,862 --> 00:06:37,482 I have $10, he can go get two Whoppers. 109 00:06:37,551 --> 00:06:38,691 I'm like, "But there's only one you. 110 00:06:38,758 --> 00:06:41,998 Why you need two?" 111 00:06:42,068 --> 00:06:44,658 Whatever it took for him to get the money 112 00:06:44,724 --> 00:06:46,284 to buy those sneakers. 113 00:06:49,413 --> 00:06:51,763 Trayvon loved football. 114 00:06:51,827 --> 00:06:55,477 Football was a way for them to connect. 115 00:06:55,551 --> 00:07:01,661 After work, my dad would still be in his work uniform 116 00:07:01,724 --> 00:07:06,034 coaching my brother on the football field. 117 00:07:06,103 --> 00:07:10,723 When my parents got divorced, nothing changed. 118 00:07:10,793 --> 00:07:12,553 Even though we're divorced, 119 00:07:12,620 --> 00:07:14,620 you can't divorce the family. 120 00:07:14,689 --> 00:07:16,789 Back, back, back, back! 121 00:07:16,862 --> 00:07:20,622 I wanted my children to do everything. 122 00:07:20,689 --> 00:07:24,209 Trayvon was interested in aviation. 123 00:07:24,275 --> 00:07:28,025 He wanted to learn how to fly. 124 00:07:28,103 --> 00:07:30,283 He'd ask me about traveling to different places. 125 00:07:30,344 --> 00:07:32,384 You know, what it's like to go to Japan, 126 00:07:32,448 --> 00:07:34,068 what it's like to go to Africa. 127 00:07:34,137 --> 00:07:36,027 This was more than an interest to him. 128 00:07:36,103 --> 00:07:38,623 You could tell this was like his passion. 129 00:07:41,379 --> 00:07:43,929 All the way up until his sophomore year, 130 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,100 you didn't have to ask him did he do his homework. 131 00:07:48,965 --> 00:07:53,025 But then he started doing things that teenagers do. 132 00:07:55,931 --> 00:07:59,661 That's just the nature of the beast. 133 00:07:59,724 --> 00:08:01,864 Trayvon had an incident at the school 134 00:08:01,931 --> 00:08:04,721 where he had a baggie, 135 00:08:04,793 --> 00:08:08,103 which they said had marijuana residue in it. 136 00:08:08,172 --> 00:08:11,102 They put him on a two-week suspension. 137 00:08:11,172 --> 00:08:13,242 And I'm not sure whose decision that was. 138 00:08:13,310 --> 00:08:16,210 I just think it could've been done a better way. 139 00:08:16,275 --> 00:08:17,685 It's so drastic. 140 00:08:17,758 --> 00:08:19,588 I mean, if he's not in school for ten days, 141 00:08:19,655 --> 00:08:21,375 then what is he gonna do? 142 00:08:21,448 --> 00:08:24,138 The first week, I had to go to work. 143 00:08:24,206 --> 00:08:28,756 So my mom found little odd jobs for him to do. 144 00:08:28,827 --> 00:08:30,447 He said, "I don't know, Grandma. 145 00:08:30,517 --> 00:08:32,997 "I mean, I'm just not making the right decisions." 146 00:08:33,068 --> 00:08:34,548 And I said, "Well, you know 147 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:36,450 we're not giving up on you, right?" 148 00:08:36,517 --> 00:08:37,897 He say, "I know." 149 00:08:37,965 --> 00:08:41,205 And that was the last conversation we had. 150 00:08:43,034 --> 00:08:44,414 That's when Tracy decided, 151 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:46,522 "Well, next week he'll come with me, 152 00:08:46,586 --> 00:08:48,446 and I can get him straight." 153 00:08:48,517 --> 00:08:52,997 I wanted him to get away from the distractions. 154 00:08:53,068 --> 00:08:55,858 I was originally scheduled to visit my girlfriend 155 00:08:55,931 --> 00:08:58,381 that weekend in Central Florida. 156 00:08:58,448 --> 00:09:02,408 I thought it'd be a good idea for Trayvon just to get away. 157 00:09:05,793 --> 00:09:09,143 My girlfriend lived in Sanford. 158 00:09:09,206 --> 00:09:12,656 I had moved to Sanford from Orlando. 159 00:09:15,379 --> 00:09:18,339 It was just a nice place where I could raise my son. 160 00:09:21,931 --> 00:09:25,411 I moved to The Retreat. 161 00:09:25,482 --> 00:09:28,212 It was a quiet neighborhood. 162 00:09:28,275 --> 00:09:31,375 It was gated. 163 00:09:31,448 --> 00:09:34,028 It wasn't that friendly. 164 00:09:34,103 --> 00:09:37,003 Everybody pretty much kept to themselves. 165 00:09:38,655 --> 00:09:42,205 That night, me and Brandy went to a function. 166 00:09:42,275 --> 00:09:45,095 We got home, and the first thing that I did 167 00:09:45,172 --> 00:09:48,972 was to look for Trayvon, and he wasn't in the house. 168 00:09:49,034 --> 00:09:53,004 And so I asked Brandy's son. 169 00:09:53,068 --> 00:09:55,378 He said last he remembered Trayvon had went 170 00:09:55,448 --> 00:09:59,478 to the 7-Eleven right down the street. 171 00:10:45,931 --> 00:10:48,931 Yeah, a dark hoodie. 172 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,100 Late teens, okay. 173 00:11:33,758 --> 00:11:35,718 All right, sir, what is your name? 174 00:11:35,793 --> 00:11:37,483 George. 175 00:11:37,551 --> 00:11:39,411 All right, George, what's your last name? 176 00:11:39,482 --> 00:11:41,282 Zimmerman. 177 00:11:41,344 --> 00:11:42,974 All right, George, we do have them on the way. 178 00:11:43,034 --> 00:11:44,344 Do you want to meet with the officers 179 00:11:44,413 --> 00:11:45,973 when they get out there? 180 00:11:46,034 --> 00:11:47,344 Yeah, that's fine. - Okay. 181 00:11:47,413 --> 00:11:49,003 Yeah, that's no problem. - Thanks. 182 00:11:49,068 --> 00:11:50,518 You're welcome. 183 00:12:20,586 --> 00:12:23,376 It just hurts really bad. 184 00:12:33,724 --> 00:12:36,384 Whatever happened that night, 185 00:12:36,448 --> 00:12:39,968 the only time they cannot account for 186 00:12:40,034 --> 00:12:43,724 was 71 seconds. 187 00:12:50,862 --> 00:12:53,932 71 seconds, 188 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,760 and it changed America. 189 00:13:14,482 --> 00:13:17,032 The Retreat at Twin Lakes... 190 00:13:17,103 --> 00:13:21,483 I don't think I'd ever been there in my career before. 191 00:13:21,551 --> 00:13:25,661 I heard a suspicious-person call go out. 192 00:13:25,724 --> 00:13:29,244 And before I could actually get in my car, 193 00:13:29,310 --> 00:13:31,690 shots had been fired. 194 00:13:43,379 --> 00:13:45,659 So I went down there. 195 00:13:45,724 --> 00:13:49,484 I saw a body laying in the grass. 196 00:13:49,551 --> 00:13:52,791 I rolled this man over and... 197 00:13:52,862 --> 00:13:56,412 saw this--just a kid. 198 00:13:56,482 --> 00:14:00,032 I did CPR, but there was nothing there. 199 00:14:03,655 --> 00:14:07,685 Now I've got the shooter, and I've got the gun. 200 00:14:07,758 --> 00:14:11,548 It seemed like an arrest was going to be imminent. 201 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:14,830 At the time, I just didn't understand the complexities 202 00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:16,686 that were gonna be involved. 203 00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:37,135 Persons in the room with George Zimmerman. 204 00:14:37,206 --> 00:14:38,826 Correct? - Yes, sir. 205 00:15:01,896 --> 00:15:05,856 George Zimmerman claimed self-defense. 206 00:15:05,931 --> 00:15:09,931 This young man can't speak about what had occurred. 207 00:15:12,172 --> 00:15:15,212 And so we needed to get probable cause 208 00:15:15,275 --> 00:15:17,335 for the arrest of Mr. Zimmerman. 209 00:15:17,413 --> 00:15:19,723 And that's what the issue at hand was. 210 00:15:28,724 --> 00:15:30,414 Yes, sir. 211 00:15:57,586 --> 00:15:59,686 I came to work. 212 00:15:59,758 --> 00:16:03,068 I was showed a picture of John Doe-- 213 00:16:03,137 --> 00:16:05,407 a young black kid, laying on the ground. 214 00:16:05,482 --> 00:16:07,792 The mission was to find out who the kid was, 215 00:16:07,862 --> 00:16:09,002 identify him, 216 00:16:09,068 --> 00:16:10,928 contact whoever we needed to contact 217 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,340 to let them know that he was deceased. 218 00:16:14,413 --> 00:16:16,213 I received a missing-juvenile call 219 00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:19,025 in The Retreat, the same area that the incident happened. 220 00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:21,413 And I'm reading the description of the male 221 00:16:21,482 --> 00:16:24,242 and then the caller's name and where it's at. 222 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:27,000 What was your son last seen wearing? 223 00:16:34,724 --> 00:16:36,794 You know, I put two and two together. 224 00:16:53,793 --> 00:16:56,213 Okay. 225 00:16:56,275 --> 00:16:58,615 A detail officer pulled up 226 00:16:58,689 --> 00:17:01,929 in an unmarked vehicle. 227 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,900 He asked me to sit down. 228 00:17:04,965 --> 00:17:08,925 He told me there had been an altercation. 229 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,380 Tracy automatically began saying... 230 00:17:12,448 --> 00:17:13,758 "Don't tell me it was my boy." 231 00:17:13,827 --> 00:17:15,337 He just repeated several times. 232 00:17:15,413 --> 00:17:16,663 "Don't tell me it was my boy." 233 00:17:16,724 --> 00:17:20,284 He slid a crime scene photo to me 234 00:17:20,344 --> 00:17:23,214 and asked, was that my son. 235 00:17:30,275 --> 00:17:33,305 I just hear a scream... 236 00:17:33,379 --> 00:17:37,759 a scream that you just don't ever want to hear in your life. 237 00:17:37,827 --> 00:17:42,617 I see the picture on the table 238 00:17:42,689 --> 00:17:46,339 of Tray laying down. 239 00:18:06,655 --> 00:18:09,655 I have kids. I have boys. 240 00:18:09,724 --> 00:18:13,034 And when I send my kids somewhere with anybody, 241 00:18:13,103 --> 00:18:15,343 I expect them to keep them safe. 242 00:18:15,413 --> 00:18:17,453 And I didn't do that for Trayvon. 243 00:18:17,517 --> 00:18:19,517 I didn't do it. 244 00:18:19,586 --> 00:18:23,066 I didn't do it. 245 00:18:25,206 --> 00:18:28,336 I can remember going up there in the room. 246 00:18:28,413 --> 00:18:30,933 I didn't get a chance to hug him before he died, 247 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,830 and so there was just the smell of the fabric softener 248 00:18:34,896 --> 00:18:37,306 in the clothes that he had. 249 00:18:37,379 --> 00:18:40,829 I can remember getting on my knees just holding the bag. 250 00:18:40,896 --> 00:18:43,446 And, um... 251 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,410 You can't really explain the feeling, man, 252 00:18:48,482 --> 00:18:51,722 unless you actually been there. 253 00:18:56,068 --> 00:19:00,168 It was a thousand things racing through my head. 254 00:19:00,241 --> 00:19:02,241 "Was the individual arrested?" 255 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:04,210 "No, he hadn't been arrested." 256 00:19:04,275 --> 00:19:06,615 "Why haven't he been arrested?" 257 00:19:06,689 --> 00:19:08,589 I wasn't getting any answers. 258 00:19:08,655 --> 00:19:11,475 And there was a runaround. 259 00:19:11,551 --> 00:19:13,281 Detective Chris Serino said 260 00:19:13,344 --> 00:19:16,694 they were gonna do a walk-through of the incident. 261 00:19:16,758 --> 00:19:18,718 And while they were doing the walk-through 262 00:19:18,793 --> 00:19:21,173 with the person who had killed Trayvon, 263 00:19:21,241 --> 00:19:25,071 he basically asked me not to come outside the residence. 264 00:19:25,137 --> 00:19:28,587 I says, "This is crazy." 265 00:19:28,655 --> 00:19:30,925 And when I got to right about here, 266 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,450 he yelled from behind me to the side of me. 267 00:19:34,517 --> 00:19:36,307 He said, "Yo, you got a problem?" 268 00:19:36,379 --> 00:19:37,619 And I turned around, and I said, 269 00:19:37,689 --> 00:19:38,829 "No, I don't have a problem, man." 270 00:19:38,896 --> 00:19:40,066 And he said, "You got a problem now." 271 00:19:40,137 --> 00:19:42,027 And he punched me in the face. 272 00:19:42,103 --> 00:19:44,663 I tried to sit up, and that's when he grabbed me by the head 273 00:19:44,724 --> 00:19:47,144 and tried to slam my head down. 274 00:19:47,206 --> 00:19:48,376 I kept yelling, "Help!" 275 00:19:48,448 --> 00:19:50,068 He said, "Shut the f#k up." 276 00:19:50,137 --> 00:19:53,517 And, uh, then I tried squirming. 277 00:19:53,586 --> 00:19:55,136 That's when my jacket moved up, 278 00:19:55,206 --> 00:19:58,786 and I had my firearm on my right-side hip. 279 00:19:58,862 --> 00:20:00,242 And he reached for it. 280 00:20:00,310 --> 00:20:02,690 Like, I felt his arm going down to my side. 281 00:20:02,758 --> 00:20:05,518 And I grabbed it, and I just grabbed my firearm, 282 00:20:05,586 --> 00:20:09,136 and I shot him... one time. 283 00:20:09,206 --> 00:20:10,856 Okay. 284 00:20:10,931 --> 00:20:13,211 When I walked up to Investigator Serino, 285 00:20:13,275 --> 00:20:14,995 he was like, "George Zimmerman said 286 00:20:15,068 --> 00:20:18,028 that he was in fear of his life." 287 00:20:18,103 --> 00:20:20,483 People in f--I could be in fear of my life, 288 00:20:20,551 --> 00:20:22,551 and I'm a police officer, and I carry a gun, 289 00:20:22,620 --> 00:20:25,310 but I just can't shoot. 290 00:20:25,379 --> 00:20:29,139 I really don't know what was going on, and... 291 00:20:29,206 --> 00:20:31,856 there was a lot of rage built up in me. 292 00:20:31,931 --> 00:20:33,831 And I wasn't at the point where I was ready 293 00:20:33,896 --> 00:20:35,926 to turn the other cheek. 294 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,760 I was on the verge of going to tear the city of Sanford up. 295 00:20:39,827 --> 00:20:42,687 That's just where I was at. 296 00:20:42,758 --> 00:20:46,308 I had some long thoughts about it. 297 00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:48,029 I had to get some redemption 298 00:20:48,103 --> 00:20:51,173 for what had happened to Trayvon. 299 00:20:51,241 --> 00:20:55,931 But I also knew that there was a right way to do it. 300 00:20:58,413 --> 00:21:01,973 I needed someone to help us out. 301 00:21:04,379 --> 00:21:07,309 Tracy Martin gets on the phone. 302 00:21:07,379 --> 00:21:09,239 It's a... 303 00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:12,170 a sound of, like... 304 00:21:12,241 --> 00:21:14,931 broken-heartedness. 305 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,660 "Mr. Crump, they said they were not gonna arrest 306 00:21:18,724 --> 00:21:21,664 the killer of my son." 307 00:21:21,724 --> 00:21:23,414 For black Floridians, 308 00:21:23,482 --> 00:21:26,382 Ben Crump is seen as the guy. 309 00:21:26,448 --> 00:21:30,278 He's the Johnny Cochran of Florida civil rights law. 310 00:21:30,344 --> 00:21:32,724 He's very good at forcing a public conversation 311 00:21:32,793 --> 00:21:34,763 about a case that's being ignored. 312 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:37,407 It's becoming exceedingly clear 313 00:21:37,482 --> 00:21:39,142 that this is a cover-up. 314 00:21:39,206 --> 00:21:41,446 This is not a justice issue 315 00:21:41,517 --> 00:21:43,757 just for African-Americans. 316 00:21:43,827 --> 00:21:46,967 This is a justice issue for all Americans. 317 00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:51,070 You better make it as public as possible, 318 00:21:51,137 --> 00:21:53,927 or they're just gonna sweep it under the rug. 319 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,720 I said, "Tracy, we'll take your case. 320 00:21:57,793 --> 00:21:59,523 "We're gonna fight like hell for you, 321 00:21:59,586 --> 00:22:03,826 "because this kid walking home from a 7-Eleven 322 00:22:03,896 --> 00:22:08,546 was profiled, pursued, and shot in the heart." 323 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:11,690 Trayvon Martin never, ever 324 00:22:11,758 --> 00:22:13,788 should've been killed like this. 325 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:23,002 The car ride over to the funeral home, 326 00:22:23,068 --> 00:22:25,758 everybody was just stoic. 327 00:22:26,758 --> 00:22:28,998 I prayed a lot. 328 00:22:31,241 --> 00:22:34,791 And I had to ask for guidance. 329 00:22:37,896 --> 00:22:42,236 My life changed forever. 330 00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:44,790 A piece of me died 331 00:22:47,206 --> 00:22:50,406 I never understood, 332 00:22:50,482 --> 00:22:54,002 and I can't say I understand now, 333 00:22:54,068 --> 00:22:57,068 why it happened. 334 00:22:57,137 --> 00:22:59,447 How did he die? Why is he dead? 335 00:22:59,517 --> 00:23:01,447 I couldn't answer their questions, 336 00:23:01,517 --> 00:23:03,407 and I couldn't answer nothing else. 337 00:23:07,827 --> 00:23:11,657 I remember assembling the team. 338 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:13,244 I had Attorney Parks. 339 00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:15,410 We had been through these battles before. 340 00:23:15,482 --> 00:23:17,002 I had Jasmine Rand, 341 00:23:17,068 --> 00:23:19,478 this young, incredible civil rights lawyer. 342 00:23:19,551 --> 00:23:20,931 I had Natalie Jackson. 343 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,620 She had a law firm of black women. 344 00:23:22,689 --> 00:23:24,659 And she was from Sanford. 345 00:23:24,724 --> 00:23:26,384 One of the things that we learned 346 00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:28,928 about George Zimmerman in the course of investigation 347 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,030 is that he called the non-emergency line 348 00:23:31,103 --> 00:23:34,523 so many times, reporting what he believed 349 00:23:34,586 --> 00:23:38,896 were suspicious people in the neighborhood. 350 00:23:38,965 --> 00:23:41,095 The Retreat was a gated neighborhood. 351 00:23:41,172 --> 00:23:43,552 And many of the people who lived in this neighborhood, 352 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,790 they bought at the top of the market. 353 00:23:46,862 --> 00:23:49,382 Then you had the market crash. 354 00:23:49,448 --> 00:23:51,168 Financial assets related to home mortgages 355 00:23:51,241 --> 00:23:53,521 have lost value during the housing decline. 356 00:23:53,586 --> 00:23:55,026 Florida ranks third in the nation 357 00:23:55,103 --> 00:23:57,103 in the number of home foreclosures. 358 00:23:57,172 --> 00:23:58,832 Thousands of homes on the market, 359 00:23:58,896 --> 00:24:01,516 house after house, street after street. 360 00:24:01,586 --> 00:24:04,826 You had investors come and buy up foreclosures. 361 00:24:04,896 --> 00:24:08,026 And you had an influx of renters. 362 00:24:08,103 --> 00:24:10,863 Many of the renters were Section 8 people-- 363 00:24:10,931 --> 00:24:12,721 people who had previously lived 364 00:24:12,793 --> 00:24:14,553 in Sanford housing projects. 365 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,690 That prompted the people who had paid 366 00:24:16,758 --> 00:24:18,518 all this money for their houses 367 00:24:18,586 --> 00:24:21,966 to think, "Our neighborhood is going down." 368 00:24:22,034 --> 00:24:25,214 So they started a neighborhood watch. 369 00:24:25,275 --> 00:24:28,135 George Zimmerman, who had an interest in policing 370 00:24:28,206 --> 00:24:30,136 and wanted to be a police officer, 371 00:24:30,206 --> 00:24:33,306 he volunteered to be the neighborhood watch captain. 372 00:24:33,379 --> 00:24:36,619 But the story that we got was the neighborhood watch 373 00:24:36,689 --> 00:24:38,139 was really the watch of the black people 374 00:24:38,206 --> 00:24:40,096 in the neighborhood. 375 00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:06,686 Sanford Police. This line's being recorded. 376 00:25:06,758 --> 00:25:08,518 Sharon speaking. 377 00:25:15,344 --> 00:25:17,864 What's going on there, George? 378 00:25:23,827 --> 00:25:25,587 Sanford Police Department. 379 00:25:25,655 --> 00:25:29,615 Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood. 380 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,310 This was not an accident. 381 00:25:51,379 --> 00:25:53,689 This was racial profiling. 382 00:25:53,758 --> 00:25:57,238 But all we got is Trayvon Martin's killer 383 00:25:57,310 --> 00:25:59,030 to listen to. 384 00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:04,447 The issue is that George Zimmerman 385 00:26:04,517 --> 00:26:06,167 claimed self-defense. 386 00:26:11,931 --> 00:26:15,241 Florida had a law that came in around 2005 387 00:26:15,310 --> 00:26:18,590 under Jeb Bush that added a new way 388 00:26:18,655 --> 00:26:20,615 of asserting self-defense. 389 00:26:20,689 --> 00:26:23,859 And it was called "stand-your-ground." 390 00:26:23,931 --> 00:26:26,861 Stand-your-ground removes the obligation 391 00:26:26,931 --> 00:26:30,831 to retreat before responding with lethal force. 392 00:26:33,793 --> 00:26:35,523 Our laws used to be based 393 00:26:35,586 --> 00:26:37,856 on the English common law called the "castle doctrine." 394 00:26:37,931 --> 00:26:39,521 If I'm in my castle and you come in 395 00:26:39,586 --> 00:26:42,406 and I perceive you as a threat, I can use deadly force. 396 00:26:42,482 --> 00:26:45,002 The stand-your-ground law changed the castle doctrine 397 00:26:45,068 --> 00:26:47,308 to make everywhere your castle. 398 00:26:47,379 --> 00:26:49,589 Jeb Bush signed the stand-your-ground law 399 00:26:49,655 --> 00:26:52,275 with an NRA lobbyist at his side. 400 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:56,594 Now the law is on the side of law-abiding people and victims, 401 00:26:56,655 --> 00:27:00,095 rather than on the side of criminals. 402 00:27:00,172 --> 00:27:02,662 Marion Hammer is the long-time NRA queen 403 00:27:02,724 --> 00:27:04,484 of the state of Florida. 404 00:27:04,551 --> 00:27:08,171 She's under 5 feet tall. She has a pageboy haircut. 405 00:27:08,241 --> 00:27:09,901 She still carries a handgun in her purse. 406 00:27:09,965 --> 00:27:12,335 For a long time, it was a laser-guided pistol. 407 00:27:12,413 --> 00:27:14,723 Marion Hammer is one of the most influential 408 00:27:14,793 --> 00:27:16,033 gun lobbyists in history. 409 00:27:16,103 --> 00:27:17,553 In 2005, 410 00:27:17,620 --> 00:27:20,310 she changed self-defense laws in this country 411 00:27:20,379 --> 00:27:23,589 to help the industry sell more guns. 412 00:27:23,655 --> 00:27:26,715 Go ahead. Write about our paranoia. 413 00:27:26,793 --> 00:27:29,003 But there is no greater freedom 414 00:27:29,068 --> 00:27:31,068 than the right to protect our families 415 00:27:31,137 --> 00:27:35,377 with all the rifles, shotguns, and handguns we want. 416 00:27:35,448 --> 00:27:37,718 Not only do we want more guns sold, 417 00:27:37,793 --> 00:27:39,553 now we want to take it a step further. 418 00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:41,280 You should be able to use it. 419 00:27:41,344 --> 00:27:43,904 The NRA wanted to protect those shooters. 420 00:27:43,965 --> 00:27:46,335 But one of the consequences of this law 421 00:27:46,413 --> 00:27:49,313 was to make it easier to get away with murder. 422 00:27:49,379 --> 00:27:51,589 Prosecutors who oppose these laws 423 00:27:51,655 --> 00:27:54,375 say that now police officers, rather than lawyers, 424 00:27:54,448 --> 00:27:58,448 are deciding whether someone is charged with a crime. 425 00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:00,827 The NRA has put its thumb on the scale of justice 426 00:28:00,896 --> 00:28:03,516 across the country. 427 00:28:03,586 --> 00:28:06,276 This is gonna have to involve the death of a child 428 00:28:06,344 --> 00:28:09,664 before the public is gonna realize it's not reasonable. 429 00:28:11,344 --> 00:28:13,174 This law had the effect of exonerating 430 00:28:13,241 --> 00:28:15,031 people like George Zimmerman 431 00:28:15,103 --> 00:28:17,383 who said that they were in fear. 432 00:28:22,206 --> 00:28:24,306 Mr. Zimmerman was subjected 433 00:28:24,379 --> 00:28:26,789 to a truth-verification instrument. 434 00:28:29,137 --> 00:28:31,407 We use a voice-stress analysis, 435 00:28:31,482 --> 00:28:33,972 which is pretty much self-explanatory. 436 00:28:50,482 --> 00:28:52,242 We went through that process. 437 00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:54,240 It was part of our investigation. 438 00:28:58,862 --> 00:29:01,032 George, pleasure to meet you, sir. 439 00:29:01,103 --> 00:29:02,173 Thank you. You as well. 440 00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:03,721 Hopefully I never see you again. 441 00:29:03,793 --> 00:29:05,793 Hopefully you won't. 442 00:29:05,862 --> 00:29:10,242 The police accepted his version like the Gospel. 443 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:13,660 Can you imagine if Trayvon was a white kid 444 00:29:13,724 --> 00:29:15,594 and a Neighborhood Watch volunteer 445 00:29:15,655 --> 00:29:17,275 shot him in the heart 446 00:29:17,344 --> 00:29:20,794 and got to go home and sleep in his bed? 447 00:29:20,862 --> 00:29:23,762 How many heads would roll over that? 448 00:29:25,586 --> 00:29:28,546 For Trayvon Martin's case having any chance 449 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:31,210 to make it into the court of law, 450 00:29:31,275 --> 00:29:35,065 I first had to win the court of public opinion. 451 00:29:35,137 --> 00:29:38,237 For Ben Crump, race became a focal point. 452 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:41,860 Why is a young black teenager looked at as suspicious? 453 00:29:41,931 --> 00:29:43,831 I think that that element of the story 454 00:29:43,896 --> 00:29:46,096 really continued to grow. 455 00:29:46,172 --> 00:29:49,382 Ben Crump said, "The elephant in the room 456 00:29:49,448 --> 00:29:50,718 "is the fact that this was 457 00:29:50,793 --> 00:29:52,663 "a White Neighborhood Watch captain 458 00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:53,974 and a young black man." 459 00:29:55,931 --> 00:29:57,931 And I quoted him on that. 460 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,140 The story started blowing up. 461 00:30:00,206 --> 00:30:01,856 It got, like, over 12,000 comments. 462 00:30:01,931 --> 00:30:03,761 People were outraged, and they wanted to know more. 463 00:30:03,827 --> 00:30:05,717 The attorneys are demanding that Zimmerman 464 00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:07,973 be arrested and charged with Trayvon Martin's murder. 465 00:30:08,034 --> 00:30:09,344 At that particular time, 466 00:30:09,413 --> 00:30:11,383 I didn't know the power of the media. 467 00:30:11,448 --> 00:30:15,338 My son left Sanford, Florida in a body bag, 468 00:30:15,413 --> 00:30:17,663 while George Zimmerman went home 469 00:30:17,724 --> 00:30:20,214 to go to sleep in his own bed. 470 00:30:20,275 --> 00:30:22,515 The story really began to generate energy, 471 00:30:22,586 --> 00:30:24,896 pushing it onto the national horizon. 472 00:30:24,965 --> 00:30:26,715 The parents of a teenager who was shot and killed 473 00:30:26,793 --> 00:30:28,383 near Orlando last month-- 474 00:30:28,448 --> 00:30:30,548 they're outraged that no one has been arrested 475 00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:33,000 in a case that has serious racial overtones. 476 00:30:33,068 --> 00:30:34,758 CBS flew a crew in. 477 00:30:34,827 --> 00:30:37,277 So we met them, and they did a walk-through. 478 00:30:37,344 --> 00:30:39,344 Yeah, it must be a little odd to be here, huh? 479 00:30:39,413 --> 00:30:41,073 Yes. 480 00:30:41,137 --> 00:30:43,097 When Tray was only nine, 481 00:30:43,172 --> 00:30:45,762 he pulled his father from a burning kitchen. 482 00:30:45,827 --> 00:30:48,237 My son saved my life. 483 00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:52,720 And for me not to be able to save his life, 484 00:30:52,793 --> 00:30:56,383 it's just, uh... 485 00:30:56,448 --> 00:30:59,278 It's--it's hard. 486 00:31:04,482 --> 00:31:07,142 We're here to demand that the state attorney 487 00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:12,236 charge this homeowner's association loose cannon 488 00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:13,480 with murder. 489 00:31:13,551 --> 00:31:15,481 Attorney Crump told us, 490 00:31:15,551 --> 00:31:17,211 "This is gonna be a tough process. 491 00:31:17,275 --> 00:31:19,515 It's gonna be a long process." 492 00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:21,516 Realistically, 493 00:31:21,586 --> 00:31:25,826 just hearing a father's cry wasn't gonna do it. 494 00:31:28,724 --> 00:31:31,284 I remember just not wanting 495 00:31:31,344 --> 00:31:33,904 to get up in the morning... 496 00:31:33,965 --> 00:31:37,335 not wanting to comb my hair or brush my teeth or shower 497 00:31:37,413 --> 00:31:39,213 or anything. 498 00:31:39,275 --> 00:31:44,095 Tracy called me and said that I needed to come to Sanford. 499 00:31:44,172 --> 00:31:47,282 And I said, "I'm never coming there." 500 00:31:48,862 --> 00:31:52,832 She was kind of, like... getting withdrawn. 501 00:31:52,896 --> 00:31:55,826 You had to push her to get her to keep going. 502 00:31:55,896 --> 00:31:58,406 Either you choose to grieve, 503 00:31:58,482 --> 00:31:59,762 or you choose to fight. 504 00:31:59,827 --> 00:32:02,207 But you got to choose one or the other, 505 00:32:02,275 --> 00:32:04,965 because if you choose to grieve, 506 00:32:05,034 --> 00:32:06,314 it's over. 507 00:32:06,379 --> 00:32:09,069 Nothing happens to the killer of your child. 508 00:32:11,827 --> 00:32:13,407 That's a hard pill to swallow. 509 00:32:13,482 --> 00:32:15,382 I'm like... 510 00:32:15,448 --> 00:32:17,998 "I'll be there." 511 00:32:18,068 --> 00:32:20,998 If I had my choice, I probably would not talk, 512 00:32:21,068 --> 00:32:23,408 but I don't want this to be swept under the rug. 513 00:32:23,482 --> 00:32:27,002 I want people to be aware of what's going on. 514 00:32:30,965 --> 00:32:33,685 Oh. 515 00:32:43,275 --> 00:32:45,585 As a mother, 516 00:32:45,655 --> 00:32:49,205 my heart is broken. 517 00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:51,545 My heart hurts. 518 00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:55,720 I don't understand. 519 00:32:55,793 --> 00:32:59,553 George Zimmerman had a 9-millimeter gun. 520 00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:02,930 Trayvon Martin had a bag of Skittles. 521 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,930 George Zimmerman is a college student 522 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,970 majoring in criminal justice. 523 00:33:07,034 --> 00:33:10,104 We couldn't reach him or find any trace of him online. 524 00:33:10,172 --> 00:33:12,972 On "CBS This Morning, Police Chief Bill Lee 525 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:15,244 says Zimmerman shot in self-defense. 526 00:33:15,310 --> 00:33:17,930 Zimmerman admitted shooting him. 527 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,280 Correct. 528 00:33:19,344 --> 00:33:22,244 He was armed, and the victim was not armed. 529 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:23,480 That's correct. 530 00:33:23,551 --> 00:33:24,791 But no arrest. 531 00:33:24,862 --> 00:33:26,522 No arrest. 532 00:33:26,586 --> 00:33:29,136 They kept saying that they're not going to arrest 533 00:33:29,206 --> 00:33:30,926 because of this stand-your-ground, 534 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,830 and I think that's the first time I had ever heard 535 00:33:32,896 --> 00:33:34,476 of stand-your-ground. 536 00:33:34,551 --> 00:33:36,411 In 2005, George Zimmerman was arrested 537 00:33:36,482 --> 00:33:38,792 for battery on a law enforcement officer 538 00:33:38,862 --> 00:33:40,972 and resisting arrest with violence. 539 00:33:41,034 --> 00:33:43,414 However, it appears his history with the law 540 00:33:43,482 --> 00:33:46,792 did not impact Chief Lee's decision to make an arrest. 541 00:33:46,862 --> 00:33:48,172 I just answered that question, 542 00:33:48,241 --> 00:33:50,171 that we take everything into consideration. 543 00:33:50,241 --> 00:33:53,171 Trayvon Martin's family wants answers, justice, 544 00:33:53,241 --> 00:33:56,861 and the 911 calls from that tragic evening. 545 00:33:56,931 --> 00:33:59,831 Six neighbors dialed 911 to report a fight 546 00:33:59,896 --> 00:34:01,446 and then a gunshot. 547 00:34:01,517 --> 00:34:03,717 Sitting on the couch, about to watch the Oscars, 548 00:34:03,793 --> 00:34:05,283 you know... 549 00:34:05,344 --> 00:34:06,864 And, uh, boom. 550 00:34:06,931 --> 00:34:09,621 On one of the 911 calls, there is evidence, 551 00:34:09,689 --> 00:34:12,719 you can hear in the background, of a struggle and a gunshot. 552 00:34:12,793 --> 00:34:14,553 But Chief Bill Lee 553 00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:17,340 says those 911 calls are part of an active investigation 554 00:34:17,413 --> 00:34:19,553 and will not be released. 555 00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:22,620 We had to get these tapes out to America. 556 00:34:22,689 --> 00:34:25,789 I understood how to navigate the media, 557 00:34:25,862 --> 00:34:28,102 to make them give a damn about a black life. 558 00:34:28,172 --> 00:34:29,932 His ability to bridge the world 559 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,720 between white mainstream media 560 00:34:31,793 --> 00:34:34,483 and marginalized communities, specifically African-Americans, 561 00:34:34,551 --> 00:34:36,311 is unparalleled. 562 00:34:36,379 --> 00:34:40,279 In 2006, Ben Crump became involved in a case 563 00:34:40,344 --> 00:34:42,314 of a 14-year-old boy 564 00:34:42,379 --> 00:34:45,829 who died at a boot camp after being beaten by guards. 565 00:34:45,896 --> 00:34:48,026 Martin Lee Anderson collapses. 566 00:34:48,103 --> 00:34:50,903 They pick him up, kick him, punch him. 567 00:34:50,965 --> 00:34:53,925 And when he's not responding, 568 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,790 they start stuffing ammonia tablets inside his nose. 569 00:34:58,862 --> 00:35:01,172 They say he died a couple hours later, 570 00:35:01,241 --> 00:35:04,241 but you could tell he's already dead then. 571 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:06,760 Martin Lee Anderson's case became a test run 572 00:35:06,827 --> 00:35:09,137 in how to handle these types of cases. 573 00:35:09,206 --> 00:35:11,756 I filed a lawsuit 574 00:35:11,827 --> 00:35:15,027 demanding the video be released. 575 00:35:15,103 --> 00:35:18,243 Police released a video of the incident. 576 00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:21,240 That's what the family had been demanding the whole time. 577 00:35:23,103 --> 00:35:25,213 The most important thing, civil rights-wise, 578 00:35:25,275 --> 00:35:28,785 was that Ben Crump got the boot camps in Florida shut down. 579 00:35:28,862 --> 00:35:30,342 There were so many things 580 00:35:30,413 --> 00:35:33,623 about Martin Lee Anderson that prepared me 581 00:35:33,689 --> 00:35:35,899 for Trayvon Martin's case. 582 00:35:35,965 --> 00:35:37,785 I kept telling everybody on my team, 583 00:35:37,862 --> 00:35:40,072 "Let the press know, we gonna get this tape." 584 00:35:40,137 --> 00:35:43,097 We'd filed our Freedom of Information requests. 585 00:35:43,172 --> 00:35:45,452 I called the lawyer for the city of Sanford. 586 00:35:45,517 --> 00:35:48,097 And he said, "We're not releasing the tapes, 587 00:35:48,172 --> 00:35:51,002 "and we're not gonna continue this conversation. 588 00:35:51,068 --> 00:35:53,308 "Chief Lee is gonna make a statement to the press. 589 00:35:53,379 --> 00:35:55,829 You'll hear it when everybody else hears it." 590 00:35:55,896 --> 00:35:59,306 Mr. Zimmerman has made the statement of self-defense. 591 00:35:59,379 --> 00:36:02,689 Until we can establish probable cause 592 00:36:02,758 --> 00:36:04,998 to dispute that, 593 00:36:05,068 --> 00:36:07,788 we don't have the grounds to arrest him. 594 00:36:12,482 --> 00:36:13,722 Right. 595 00:36:15,965 --> 00:36:17,375 That's the perception. 596 00:36:17,448 --> 00:36:19,378 Outraged residents have asked 597 00:36:19,448 --> 00:36:21,138 the Sanford Police Department to show accountability. 598 00:36:21,206 --> 00:36:23,446 This is not a justified shooting. 599 00:36:23,517 --> 00:36:25,967 A man gets out of his car, packing a gun, 600 00:36:26,034 --> 00:36:28,624 detains a black man, and gets in an argument 601 00:36:28,689 --> 00:36:30,239 and shoots him to death. 602 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:32,380 How can you justify that shooting? 603 00:36:32,448 --> 00:36:34,278 People felt that we weren't doing 604 00:36:34,344 --> 00:36:37,174 what we should've been doing by making an arrest. 605 00:36:37,241 --> 00:36:39,341 As a police officer in the police department, 606 00:36:39,413 --> 00:36:42,593 we have to open the gates up and look at every angle, 607 00:36:42,655 --> 00:36:44,825 not just from Mr. Martin's angel, 608 00:36:44,896 --> 00:36:46,336 also Mr. Zimmerman's angle, 609 00:36:46,413 --> 00:36:48,593 'cause we're obligated by law to do that-- 610 00:36:48,655 --> 00:36:49,965 have an open mind, 611 00:36:50,034 --> 00:36:51,524 and that's what we're gonna do in this case. 612 00:36:51,586 --> 00:36:53,546 But what has happened to Mr. Zimmerman right now? 613 00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:55,970 At this point, nothing. 614 00:36:56,034 --> 00:36:58,144 Crump was furious. 615 00:36:58,206 --> 00:37:00,516 Why is Bill Lee going out to hold a press conference 616 00:37:00,586 --> 00:37:03,546 to announce to the world that he's not going to arrest 617 00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:07,000 the person that shot and killed Trayvon Martin? 618 00:37:07,068 --> 00:37:08,788 Crump was saying, "He's not sending a message 619 00:37:08,862 --> 00:37:10,142 "just to Trayvon Martin's parents, 620 00:37:10,206 --> 00:37:11,686 "he's sending a message to Sanford. 621 00:37:11,758 --> 00:37:13,688 "He's sending a message to our children saying, 622 00:37:13,758 --> 00:37:15,658 'Your lives don't matter.'" 623 00:37:15,724 --> 00:37:18,524 I called Reverend Al Sharpton. 624 00:37:18,586 --> 00:37:22,136 When Ben Crump called about Trayvon, 625 00:37:22,206 --> 00:37:25,306 I said, "I'm going to use my show 626 00:37:25,379 --> 00:37:27,139 to drive this home." 627 00:37:27,206 --> 00:37:29,136 Joining me now from Tallahassee, Florida, 628 00:37:29,206 --> 00:37:31,546 Martin family attorney, Benjamin Crump. 629 00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:33,340 That 911 tape would tell us 630 00:37:33,413 --> 00:37:36,103 why he thought Trayvon Martin was suspicious. 631 00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:37,412 The tapes need to be released. 632 00:37:37,482 --> 00:37:39,932 All sides need to see what happened here. 633 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,930 We gonna make them care about Trayvon. 634 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,410 All America is gonna care about Trayvon. 635 00:37:53,068 --> 00:37:55,968 After the Trayvon incident happened, 636 00:37:56,034 --> 00:37:59,214 it was a tough, tough moment in time. 637 00:37:59,275 --> 00:38:01,405 You know, there were rumblings of, 638 00:38:01,482 --> 00:38:04,002 "Why is the city not being transparent?" 639 00:38:04,068 --> 00:38:07,928 The conspiracy theories, the PR nightmare. 640 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,480 That was my 3:00 a.m. wake-up call every night. 641 00:38:11,551 --> 00:38:13,101 They need to release the tapes. 642 00:38:13,172 --> 00:38:14,762 And I'm--I'm gonna be coming to Florida 643 00:38:14,827 --> 00:38:16,377 to see you and the family. 644 00:38:16,448 --> 00:38:18,138 I didn't want to wait for a court case, 645 00:38:18,206 --> 00:38:21,686 so I said, "A decision's gonna be made." 646 00:38:21,758 --> 00:38:23,928 It was Mayor Triplett's decision 647 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,690 to release the 911 tapes. 648 00:38:28,034 --> 00:38:29,934 I quickly called Tracy and Sybrina 649 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,720 I said, "You all got to get here, 650 00:38:31,793 --> 00:38:33,243 "because out of respect, 651 00:38:33,310 --> 00:38:35,100 "they want you all to hear them first, 652 00:38:35,172 --> 00:38:37,622 and then they're releasing them to the world." 653 00:38:37,689 --> 00:38:40,519 We went upstairs to the mayor's office. 654 00:38:40,586 --> 00:38:43,786 The family went in. Ben Crump went in. 655 00:38:43,862 --> 00:38:45,482 The mayor was sitting behind us. 656 00:38:45,551 --> 00:38:49,171 They hit play, and they just ran through the calls. 657 00:39:19,793 --> 00:39:21,903 And then it went to all the other 911 calls 658 00:39:21,965 --> 00:39:24,405 where you could hear the screams. 659 00:39:24,482 --> 00:39:28,142 Would that have been the first time you heard it? 660 00:39:28,206 --> 00:39:29,966 Yes. 661 00:39:49,344 --> 00:39:52,694 I recognize the voice that's on there. 662 00:39:52,758 --> 00:39:54,928 What voice was that? 663 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,070 It was Trayvon's voice. 664 00:39:57,137 --> 00:40:00,447 What did you hear him say? 665 00:40:04,655 --> 00:40:07,405 I heard him... 666 00:40:07,482 --> 00:40:09,862 say "help." 667 00:40:14,448 --> 00:40:16,208 Help! 668 00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:18,375 So you think he's yelling "help"? 669 00:40:18,448 --> 00:40:19,858 Yes. 670 00:40:19,931 --> 00:40:21,171 All right, what is your-- 671 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:25,070 There was a gunshot. 672 00:40:25,137 --> 00:40:27,307 When you hear that pop, 673 00:40:27,379 --> 00:40:30,969 Sybrina screamed... 674 00:40:31,034 --> 00:40:34,034 and ran out the door. 675 00:40:34,103 --> 00:40:38,663 And I left the office. That was enough for me. 676 00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:46,480 I think I kind of took control of the cursor 677 00:40:46,551 --> 00:40:50,071 and kept clicking. 678 00:40:50,137 --> 00:40:51,617 There's someone screaming. 679 00:40:51,689 --> 00:40:53,029 I just heard a gunshot. 680 00:40:53,103 --> 00:40:55,073 I see the person right now. 681 00:40:55,137 --> 00:40:57,617 I see him, like, walking. 682 00:40:57,689 --> 00:41:00,279 I'm pretty sure the guy is dead out here. 683 00:41:00,344 --> 00:41:02,864 Holy shit. 684 00:41:02,931 --> 00:41:05,721 He stared at the computer by himself, 685 00:41:05,793 --> 00:41:07,763 replaying that tape 686 00:41:07,827 --> 00:41:11,447 with a tear running down his face. 687 00:41:13,275 --> 00:41:17,615 I listened to it maybe 20, 25 times. 688 00:41:20,310 --> 00:41:22,480 I know my son's voice, you know. 689 00:41:22,551 --> 00:41:24,451 I know that that was him. 690 00:41:27,896 --> 00:41:29,516 We walked outside. 691 00:41:29,586 --> 00:41:32,896 CDs were handed out to all members of the media. 692 00:41:32,965 --> 00:41:35,785 It was already big, but it just exploded. 693 00:41:35,862 --> 00:41:36,832 There's new information 694 00:41:36,896 --> 00:41:38,476 coming out of Orlando. 695 00:41:38,551 --> 00:41:40,141 That was the game changer... 696 00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:41,996 after those 911 tapes were released. 697 00:41:42,068 --> 00:41:43,998 People were outraged, and they wanted to know more. 698 00:41:44,068 --> 00:41:46,138 Suddenly everybody knew who Trayvon Martin was. 699 00:41:46,206 --> 00:41:47,586 Trayvon. Trayvon Martin. 700 00:41:47,655 --> 00:41:49,475 It was like an explosion. 701 00:41:49,551 --> 00:41:51,101 But there are thousands across the country 702 00:41:51,172 --> 00:41:52,552 clamoring for justice. 703 00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:54,590 And the people wouldn't stop. 704 00:41:54,655 --> 00:41:56,755 Tens of thousands of people will be rallying today. 705 00:41:56,827 --> 00:42:00,897 It took my son being shot down to make me stand up. 706 00:42:00,965 --> 00:42:03,825 This is not about a black-and-white thing. 707 00:42:03,896 --> 00:42:06,206 This is about a right-and-wrong thing. 708 00:42:06,275 --> 00:42:07,995 I am Trayvon! I am Trayvon! 709 00:42:08,068 --> 00:42:09,788 This woke up a nation. 710 00:42:09,862 --> 00:42:11,762 I'm angry! 711 00:42:11,827 --> 00:42:14,757 Trayvon became the face of our community. 712 00:42:14,827 --> 00:42:16,377 We had to go to war for him. 713 00:42:16,448 --> 00:42:18,478 Then Barack Obama says... 714 00:42:18,551 --> 00:42:20,661 You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. 715 00:42:20,724 --> 00:42:22,594 It just immediately polarized the country. 716 00:42:22,655 --> 00:42:23,825 Thousands across the country 717 00:42:23,896 --> 00:42:25,236 clamoring for justice. 718 00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:26,660 They're in the streets. 719 00:42:26,724 --> 00:42:29,104 The President is weighing in... 720 00:42:34,241 --> 00:42:37,831 We will make America great again. 721 00:42:39,413 --> 00:42:42,413 We opened up Pandora's box... 722 00:42:42,482 --> 00:42:46,482 and I had no idea what was gonna happen. 50580

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