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[tense music plays]
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-[Brianne] Hey. Hey.
-Hi.
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[Brianne] So, I wanna go over some photos
from last night.
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-[Cecilie] Okay.
-[Brianne] He's with another woman.
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The question is who?
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We don't know
if she's a relative, a friend.
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-Or his next victim at this point, so…
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
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[Brianne] Why don't you send this to Jill
and see if she knows who she is?
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So that we could potentially help her.
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Hi, Jill. We have some pictures
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of Todd with a woman.
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Have you seen her before?
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-Is that an okay way?
-Yeah. Do you know her?
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Do you know her? Yeah.
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[Cecilie] Oh, she's typing already.
I hope she knows.
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[music ends abruptly]
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-"I do."
-What'd she say? [gasps]
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-Can you come in?
-[Brianne] Yeah.
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-Oh, hi.
-[Jill] Hello.
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-[Brianne] Hi, beautiful.
-[Cecilie] Hi, Jill.
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[Cecilie] We would love to know if--
What you know about her.
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Her name is Kitt.
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[Brianne] Okay.
How'd you come to meet her?
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Todd actually introduced us
at poker one night.
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[Brianne] Okay.
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From what I know, she's given him
a substantial amount of money.
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[Brianne] She is involved with him then.
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-Yes. She definitely is.
-[Brianne] Oh, goodness.
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[Cecilie] Have you tried to warn her?
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-Have you--
-Yes.
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We had several conversations
about what I thought was going on,
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and she believes that everything
he's doing is really to benefit others.
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[intriguing music plays]
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Cecilie, maybe if you could speak to her,
then maybe you could make a difference.
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Yeah. I'll do my best.
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[suspenseful music plays]
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I am on my way to Kitt's house.
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I've written Kitt just a short letter.
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I have put
that I'm a victim of romance fraud,
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and I believe that
she's the victim of the same crime.
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If she wants to reach out,
she can do that.
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I want to help her,
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but also if we can prove
that a crime is actively taking place,
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the police are just
far more likely to prioritize Jill's case.
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[suspenseful music continues]
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[doorbell chimes]
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[Cecilie] I looked inside,
and it's just totally black.
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[foreboding music plays]
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[Cecilie] It's a long shot.
She might be in too deep.
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When you're in the middle of this, like,
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you don't want to believe
that you're being scammed.
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You don't trust
your own instincts anymore,
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so you rely on your abuser
because that's what feels safe.
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But you know deep down something is wrong.
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You can… You can feel it.
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In the end,
you have to deal with the truth.
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You have to confront your nightmare.
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[music fades]
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[quirky music plays]
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[chimes]
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[Brianne] Hey, Cecilie. Okay, so I've been
talking to a woman called Terra,
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who Todd approached, apparently,
about remortgaging Sanjara.
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She has this secret recording of Todd.
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Now, I don't know what's on it,
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but hopefully she'll have some information
that would be valuable to us.
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I need you to go and talk to her.
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[music fades]
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Hi. Is it Terra?
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-Yes. Hi Cecilie.
-Yeah, hi. Cecilie. Hi.
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-Very nice to meet you.
-Thank you for meeting up with me.
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I believe that you might have, um,
some information about Todd Dean.
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Yes.
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At the time,
I was in the banking industry,
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and he came to us
looking to refinance his property.
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And this is Sanjara?
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-This is Sanjara Wellness.
-Yeah.
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-And there was just a lot of delays.
-Yeah.
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He would send endless,
endless text messages and selfies.
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I've never had another customer
ever send me a selfie.
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And so we scheduled a time
to actually meet with him,
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and I thought we were about to start
talking facts, the figures, the numbers.
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And he said, "Hey, Terra,
would it matter, uh, in getting the refi
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if, um,
somebody's filing a suit against me?"
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And he just starts talking
about all these women and the…
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the "Todd-hater group"
and all these things that he's done.
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I'm literally just sitting there
in absolute disbelief.
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Yeah.
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And so,
while he's getting a drink of water,
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I just reached in to grab my phone,
and I have a recording.
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[Terra] Oh no,
I already poured mine in here.
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Yeah, I poured mine in here.
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So let me see if I can remember names.
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[intriguing music plays]
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[Todd] So.
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So I'll give you the short story.
I met a gal by the name of Karen Alpert.
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Karen is… is just…
Karen is just mentally deranged.
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[Todd inhales] And then Sheena,
who was working for me as my assistant,
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wanted things to go her way,
and I said, "I'm the CEO."
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"We've gotta do things this way."
She didn't like that.
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And Jill and I
went on a couple dates, had sex.
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So I'm struggling
to pay bills every month, you know.
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If I need $25, she sent me $25.
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She needed $100,
I'd send her $100 if I had it.
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So Jill said she gave me $25,000.
She never gave me $25,000.
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-Everything added up…
-[Terra] That's a lot of money.
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[Todd] Hold on.
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They're portraying me like
Todd's this douchebag who's skint.
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It's not true. It's so far from the truth.
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Tinder Swindler.
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-You ever seen that show?
-[Terra] Yeah, Netflix.
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[Todd] I watch the movie, and I go,
"God, I can relate to this shit."
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[Terra] But if I recall correctly,
the Tinder Swindler,
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these guys duped them
out of a lot of money.
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[Todd] Because, well,
I'm the… I'm the opposite.
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Okay, so I'm not the swindler.
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I'm just a guy doing the best I can.
I've been supported by wonderful people.
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I pay the bills every month.
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Somehow, someway, I have been so blessed
with so many friends that have stepped up.
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-[Terra] Mm-hmm.
-[Todd] I'm talking $10,000 every month.
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-[Terra] These friends give you $10,000?
-[Todd] Every month.
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There's no swindling.
There's ze-- There's been zero swindling.
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And to hear that he said
that he's blessed, it makes me sick.
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He admits that for years,
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he's been receiving tens of thousands
of dollars a month from these "friends."
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It felt really horrible for these women
that have been so impacted.
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Mm. Yeah.
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It was very eye-opening. Very eye-opening.
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Yeah. Thank you so much
for meeting up with me,
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and I think this will make a real impact.
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[tense music plays]
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[phone dialing]
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[Cecilie] Bri, you won't believe this.
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Todd admits getting money
from multiple women,
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and he has no shame about it.
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Do you think this will help Jill's case?
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[Brianne] Look, I absolutely think
it's gonna help the police investigation.
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It's time to expose Todd
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and make sure he can't use Sanjara
as a tool to scam people any longer.
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If you look at the second page,
it was a specific bank statement.
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-You have $50,000 here.
-Do you see the large deposits?
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-Yeah, those are important.
-Yeah, 50.
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We have the statements from these women.
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We can show that he's been doing this
for, you know, how many years?
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Our job is to say,
"Look, she's not a woman scorned."
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"She's not the first.
We found others. Listen to all of them."
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[Cecilie] The checking account.
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[music intensifies]
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[inaudible]
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Do you feel that we have enough?
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Yeah, I think we do have enough
to move forward.
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-Wanna get out the sun?
-Yes.
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'Cause…
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If we do this right,
the perpetrators could face jail time,
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and they could be required to pay
the victims back the money they're owed.
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[music fades]
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-[Brianne] How are you feeling, Jill?
-[Jill] I feel good.
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[Brianne] Okay. Glad to hear that.
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I'm excited to hear what, um,
what you all have discovered.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, we think we're ready.
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Let's see if we can move forward
with potentially prosecuting this guy.
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We have statements from multiple women
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who are willing to talk about, um,
the pattern of behavior that he has.
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So we have Karen, $46,000.
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Bridget, $12,000.
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Kristi, $8,000.
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Theresa, $2,500.
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[Jill] Wow.
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[Brianne] It's not just you.
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And this is significant
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because it's gonna show the police
that she's not alone.
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This is a serial scammer.
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Also, and what I think is kind of
the smoking gun a little bit with this.
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We have tangible evidence
that clearly shows
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the investor's deposits being deposited
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and transactions that show
he's moving them to his personal account.
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So do you feel ready now
to go and talk to the police?
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I do. I'm a bit anxious,
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but with your all's help,
I feel good about it.
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[suspenseful music plays]
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[Jill] The last time
that I reached out to the police,
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they said that, no,
there was nothing they could do,
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that it was a civil matter.
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I was shocked. I was hurt.
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I was humiliated.
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I'm a little nervous because
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I still have the feeling of,
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"Are they gonna look at me
like the scorned woman?"
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[Brianne] We can change that perspective.
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Be okay with the worst-case scenario,
and then you'll be fine.
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-Yeah. Thank you.
-[Brianne] Do you know what I mean?
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So don't let them do that.
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[Cecilie] What has struck me the most
is how difficult it is to get justice.
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The police don't know enough
about the crime.
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They don't know which laws are applicable.
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And they don't have enough resources
to actually go and prosecute the cases.
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So, all too often,
they just turn people away.
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[Brianne] Y'all ready?
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-Where's our paperwork?
-[Cecilie] Here.
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[Brianne] Is that everything?
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[Cecilie] Everything depends on
if they will take you seriously.
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[Jill] I'd like to report a fraud.
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I'm not the only victim.
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[Brianne] We have a ton of evidence
to support what she's saying.
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-[officer] Let me call my sergeant.
-[Jill] Okay.
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[officer] Figure out
what we're gonna do on our side.
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-[Jill] Okay.
-[officer 2] Are you gonna wait inside?
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-Or would you like to wait outside?
-[Jill] We'll wait outside in the vehicle.
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[Brianne] So we just have to wait.
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Could be five minutes,
could be five hours.
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[tense music plays]
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[Jill] My nerves are coming back
now that we're sitting here waiting.
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[Cecilie] We need to be confident.
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-[Jill] Someone's pulling up.
-[Cecilie] I saw someone.
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-[Brianne] Yes, he's coming out. Come on.
-Okay.
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-[Cecilie] Hi.
-[officer 3] Jill?
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[Cecilie] I'm not Jill.
Jill is coming out,
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so say hi to her. [chuckles]
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We're just here to support.
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-Are you Jill?
-[Jill] I am. Are you Officer Davis?
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-I am. It's nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you.
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[Davis] I was looking at
the total you had.
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That alone is breaching
into felony territory.
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It's gone past a civil matter
into a criminal matter.
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There's a likelihood it could be taken
out of our hands and into federal hands.
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What we're gonna have to do is…
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[sighs] This is basically gonna go in
as a domestic fraud just on your side.
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Right.
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[Davis] We'll document your side.
A detective will get assigned.
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I'm gonna give you a card.
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-That'll be your report number.
-[Jill] Okay.
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Within a couple of days,
expect a call from a detective.
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Okay. Awesome. Thank you so much.
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-[Cecilie] You never give up
-[Jill] Thank you. No.
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Thank you for supporting me
and helping and being here.
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[Cecilie squeals] Oh God. God.
236
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-[sobs]
-[Brianne] We love you, Jill.
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[soft music plays]
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[male newsreader] Women call him
the selfie scammer.
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[uplifting music plays]
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They say he love-bombed them,
sending selfies of himself,
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all while he was asking them for money.
242
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[Jill] Seeing the news clips
of Todd going to court
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and publicly being outed as a fraudster
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does feel like justice
is finally being served.
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Going public on television
has been empowering.
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You know, it's getting easier
and easier every day,
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I think because of the amount of women
that I feel like we have saved.
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With the help and support
of Cecilie and Brianne,
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it feels like we're taking him down.
250
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[Cecilie] Getting justice
through the police can be a long process.
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And it's not guaranteed.
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Cheers to teamwork.
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-Yeah.
-Yes.
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[Brianne] He has gone on
for so long unchecked.
255
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-Yep. Yeah.
-[Brianne] Until now.
256
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You're gonna help
so many women by doing this.
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I hope so. I hope so.
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[Cecilie] What's been a success
in this case
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is that Todd will no longer be able
to use Sanjara to scam people.
260
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And Jill has exposed him,
stopping him in his tracks.
261
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[music fades]
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[foreboding music plays]
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[Bridget] Hi, Cecilie.
My name is Bridget Phillips.
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I've been dating this guy,
Ricky Morrisey, for the past two years.
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-[Bridget] Ain't nobody afraid of you.
-[chuckles]
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[Bridget] When I met Ricky,
I fell for him immediately.
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He was in the military for ten years.
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But war had scarred him,
and he had a vulnerability.
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-Hey, Zeusie.
-[Bridget] So, like, I wanted to help him.
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I had no idea that he was gonna try
to steal everything that I had.
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-Bridget, let me in, please.
-[Bridget] No, what are you talking about?
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You robbed me!
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So I called the police.
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But now he's run off,
and I don't know where he is.
275
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I really need your help.
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[music ends]
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[funky music plays]
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When I met Ricky,
I had just been divorced.
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I had been single for two years,
and I was ready to start dating again.
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We met on Facebook Dating.
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I was in my early 30s,
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and I just wanted somebody
that was genuine, loyal.
283
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Like, I wanted that person
to, you know, grow old with.
284
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His dating profile had
that he was in the military.
285
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And the picture
with him and his dog, Zeus.
286
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So, I thought
he was a really attractive guy.
287
00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:02,438
And we had a connection
where we both loved dogs.
288
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He said he wanted
a long-term relationship.
289
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He wasn't looking for,
like, a quick fling.
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He came off very normal.
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Which, in retrospect, he wasn't.
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[curious music plays]
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[Bridget] We chatted for a little bit,
sending messages back and forth.
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And then, I was at work,
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and he was like,
"Oh, you wanna go out to dinner tonight?"
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I was like, "You know what?
Sure, let's go out to dinner."
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I drove an hour to go see him.
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He was super attractive.
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He wore, like, a nice collared shirt.
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He took me to a Brazilian steakhouse.
I had never been to one before.
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I was nervous,
and he made me feel comfortable.
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He recommended, like,
what wine we drank at first.
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He took charge.
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It was nice.
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It was nice to not have to make those
decisions because I'm very indecisive.
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Right after the first restaurant,
we were walking outside, and he kissed me.
307
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Like, just stopped in the parking lot.
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But we had a lot of fun.
We went to a couple of different bars.
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And by, like, the second bar,
third bar, we were deleting the apps.
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I think it was, like, a mutual suggestion
'cause we were a few drinks in.
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[laughs quietly]
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It felt, like,
I don't need to date anymore.
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Like, this is feeling good.
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He was, like, the perfect man.
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[Cecilie] Hi.
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-Is it Bridget? Hi, Cecilie.
-Hi.
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00:18:36,156 --> 00:18:38,534
-Nice to meet you. Yes,
-Can I give you a hug?
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-[Bridget] This is Ricky's dog.
-[Cecilie] Oh wow.
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So, Ricky had him.
It was his military dog, actually.
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-He was in the army with Zeus.
-[Cecilie] He's gorgeous.
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I'm so grateful that you reached out.
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So, yeah, tell me, like, what happened?
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[Bridget] It felt like we clicked
right away. Like, it was instant.
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He was charming.
325
00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:01,807
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
-He was very charming.
326
00:19:02,724 --> 00:19:05,811
I've never dated anyone
from the m-- in the military before,
327
00:19:05,894 --> 00:19:08,605
and I felt like I trusted him.
328
00:19:08,689 --> 00:19:12,526
He just… He gave off that vibe
of, like, you can trust me.
329
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[romantic music plays]
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[Bridget] It definitely moved fast
after the first date.
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The very next day, he sent me a text,
like, in the morning.
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He was saying, "I never connected
with somebody like I am right now"
333
00:19:28,417 --> 00:19:31,211
and "I've never had
these types of feelings before and…"
334
00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:35,382
And then on that third date,
he was, like, "I love you."
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00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:42,139
I didn't say it back,
because I didn't… I didn't want to yet.
336
00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:43,473
But I was f-- I was feeling it.
337
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[gentle music plays]
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[Ricky] Easy.
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She's drooling.
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00:19:49,897 --> 00:19:51,023
[Bridget] She's nervous.
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He was in the army for, like,
ten years, then he had gotten out.
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Easy.
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[Bridget] He was a military dog handler.
344
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And Zeus served overseas with him,
345
00:20:01,658 --> 00:20:04,578
and they had gone
on multiple tours together.
346
00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:07,122
He had PTSD.
347
00:20:07,623 --> 00:20:10,959
He said he did have his struggles,
but he was working on them.
348
00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:16,965
I felt really bad for him,
and I wanted to support him
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00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:19,968
in any way that I could
to make him feel better.
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[dog barking]
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[Bridget] We were dating three months
when he moved in.
352
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-[dog barking]
-[Ricky] Go. Go play.
353
00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:30,020
[Bridget] He was looking to rent,
and then he was, like, it's expensive,
354
00:20:30,103 --> 00:20:33,941
and so he suggested
that he move in with me.
355
00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:35,275
[dog barking]
356
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It definitely felt like a--
a step forward in the relationship.
357
00:20:40,197 --> 00:20:41,281
[laughs]
358
00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,784
[Ricky] Are you videoing?
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00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:46,703
It was, like,
perfect couple-type relationship.
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00:20:46,787 --> 00:20:47,663
Like…
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His parents had drug problems.
362
00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:53,502
I had family that had drug issues.
363
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And we kind of bonded over the fact that
we both kind of had broken family issues.
364
00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:04,429
[Cecilie] Scammers will often find ways
to bond with their victims.
365
00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:07,724
And this is usually
over difficult life experiences.
366
00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:12,437
For a victim, it will feel like,
"Wow, they really get me."
367
00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:13,939
But it is strategic.
368
00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:19,111
[Bridget] I felt like he understood me,
and I understood him.
369
00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:22,614
He was struggling to find a job
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00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:25,701
because of what he's been through
and his PTSD.
371
00:21:26,201 --> 00:21:28,620
So at the time, like,
I was the one paying for everything.
372
00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:31,873
But he would help me out around the house,
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like taking care of the dogs,
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or he'd, like, mow the lawn,
and he always cooked.
375
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He would try different recipes.
376
00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:44,803
And we'd get, like,
little separate plates for the dogs,
377
00:21:44,886 --> 00:21:47,055
and the dogs would have
a little snack with us.
378
00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:50,183
It was definitely what I was looking for.
379
00:21:50,892 --> 00:21:55,439
He knew how to make me feel
like I was the only person in the world.
380
00:21:55,939 --> 00:21:58,108
It felt like
we were gonna be together forever.
381
00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:00,235
[music fades]
382
00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,363
But then one day, we had a couple drinks,
383
00:22:03,447 --> 00:22:08,327
and we're sharing, you know,
life stories, and he started crying.
384
00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:10,787
-[Cecilie] Did he?
-He, like, tears…
385
00:22:10,871 --> 00:22:13,165
And he was, like, "I wanna explain."
386
00:22:14,082 --> 00:22:17,210
So his best friend died saving his life.
387
00:22:17,294 --> 00:22:19,504
They were, like, clearing a building,
388
00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:23,091
and his friend Clarence
took bullets for him
389
00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:26,386
and ended up passing away.
390
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:28,347
[somber music plays]
391
00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:32,392
[Bridget] He told me that him and Clarence
grew up together,
392
00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:34,478
had been best friends forever.
393
00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,314
He would tell me how guilty he felt.
394
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,817
It was his fault
that Clarence had passed away.
395
00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:47,407
His tattoo on his arm,
he used it as, like, a memorial.
396
00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:51,328
It stands for rest in peace,
Clarence Williams III.
397
00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:54,373
I was shocked.
398
00:22:54,456 --> 00:22:56,750
It's insane
to go through something like that.
399
00:22:57,626 --> 00:23:01,630
So I felt like I could, like,
definitely help him in a way.
400
00:23:07,135 --> 00:23:11,890
He said, you know,
because Clarence saved his life in war,
401
00:23:11,973 --> 00:23:16,353
that he felt compelled
to give Clarence's wife and children money
402
00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:19,189
because he doesn't have
that income anymore.
403
00:23:19,272 --> 00:23:23,402
He emphasized that he always
does this because of his guilt
404
00:23:23,485 --> 00:23:25,946
that Clarence died and he didn't.
405
00:23:26,029 --> 00:23:29,199
He struggled to keep a job
since the military,
406
00:23:29,282 --> 00:23:33,078
so he would ask for money
to give to Clarence's family.
407
00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:34,704
I didn't wanna say no.
408
00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:39,167
"I understand that this is, like,
a traumatic event you went through, and…
409
00:23:39,876 --> 00:23:41,336
this is a man that saved your life."
410
00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:44,256
I was like, "Well, let's figure it out."
411
00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:46,716
[Cecilie] So, if you think back,
412
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,680
like, how much do you think that you,
you know, spent then on Clarence's family?
413
00:23:51,763 --> 00:23:52,848
[Bridget] Altogether…
414
00:23:55,892 --> 00:23:58,812
probably had to go up to,
like, 10,000-ish.
415
00:23:58,895 --> 00:24:00,522
-It could be, like…
-Wow. Yeah.
416
00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:02,858
Between the whole two years
we were together.
417
00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:06,027
[Cecilie] How did the relationship end?
418
00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:10,115
I was checking my bank statements,
and when I was going through it,
419
00:24:10,198 --> 00:24:13,160
I saw all these ATM transactions
and money missing.
420
00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:15,912
[intriguing music plays]
421
00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:18,206
[Bridget] We had been together
about 18 months.
422
00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,501
I'm paying for everything.
I was losing a lot of money.
423
00:24:21,585 --> 00:24:23,795
I was getting into, like, a lot of debt.
424
00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:27,549
Subconsciously, like, I was like,
something… something doesn't add up.
425
00:24:28,383 --> 00:24:31,303
I started just questioning everything.
426
00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:35,182
And then one day,
I was at home, I was working.
427
00:24:35,265 --> 00:24:38,852
And I looked at my account, and I just saw
428
00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:42,772
tons of ATM withdrawals, $500 at a time.
429
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,274
And I was like, "Oh my God."
430
00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:46,651
[chimes]
431
00:24:47,402 --> 00:24:50,864
Then I'm texting Ricky, and he's like,
"How do you think it happened?"
432
00:24:51,781 --> 00:24:53,492
Like, "How much is gone?"
433
00:24:55,535 --> 00:24:59,122
It was over $13,000
that was missing from the account,
434
00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:01,166
and he's telling me he didn't do it.
435
00:25:03,376 --> 00:25:06,838
But deep down, I knew it was him.
I knew he was taking the money out.
436
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,382
I didn't have any, like, solid proof.
437
00:25:10,717 --> 00:25:14,763
I confronted him. He was at my house.
I was like, "You stole from me."
438
00:25:14,846 --> 00:25:17,390
[Bridget] You need to leave
or turn yourself in to the police.
439
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:18,683
This is insane.
440
00:25:18,767 --> 00:25:21,561
-Bridget, let me in. Please.
-[Bridget] No. No.
441
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,189
[Ricky] For God's sake. I'm begging you.
442
00:25:24,981 --> 00:25:27,692
That's why you're ignoring me.
You don't fucking care.
443
00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:31,029
[Bridget] I don't care. What are you
talking about? You robbed me!
444
00:25:31,112 --> 00:25:32,989
[Ricky sobbing] Jesus.
445
00:25:36,451 --> 00:25:37,452
Please.
446
00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:39,371
God.
447
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,958
[Bridget] You literally stole from me.
448
00:25:43,583 --> 00:25:45,001
[melancholy music plays]
449
00:25:45,085 --> 00:25:46,795
Fuck, like, you stole everything!
450
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,009
[Bridget] He just… He took off running.
451
00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:58,557
And it was freezing out,
and it was, like, raining out.
452
00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:02,060
I was, like, in a state of shock.
453
00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:04,563
[bawling]
454
00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:10,235
[Bridget] I never imagined
that he was capable of doing this to me.
455
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:16,074
[Cecilie] He ran off.
456
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:17,450
He left.
457
00:26:17,534 --> 00:26:20,870
-That's why you're not in contact anymore.
-Yeah.
458
00:26:21,621 --> 00:26:26,543
Right now, I'm $50,000 in debt,
and now I'm questioning everything.
459
00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:28,712
[gentle music plays]
460
00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:29,838
[Bridget] Come here, Zeus.
461
00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:35,510
I was devastated.
462
00:26:37,012 --> 00:26:38,722
My whole world just blew up on me.
463
00:26:41,808 --> 00:26:44,686
I mean, there was definitely times
where I was just ready to give up,
464
00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:46,354
where I couldn't get out of debt.
465
00:26:51,901 --> 00:26:52,736
[sniffles]
466
00:26:55,196 --> 00:26:57,574
I definitely thought about,
like, ending things.
467
00:26:59,909 --> 00:27:00,744
[sniffles]
468
00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:07,334
[Bridget] I had no idea
that he would destroy my life.
469
00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:11,921
So we'll do everything in our power…
470
00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:14,591
-[Bridget] Thank you.
-…you know, to help you, Bridget.
471
00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:26,519
-Hey, come on in.
-Hi, Bri. Hi.
472
00:27:28,229 --> 00:27:31,441
So how much are we talking, like,
about how much did he take from her?
473
00:27:31,524 --> 00:27:34,736
In the end, she said, like, $50,000.
474
00:27:35,236 --> 00:27:37,947
So much money
had been taken out from the ATM,
475
00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:40,158
but she has no proof it was him.
476
00:27:41,701 --> 00:27:44,162
[Brianne] You need to speak
to the banks about the withdrawals.
477
00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:45,080
[Cecilie] Yeah.
478
00:27:45,163 --> 00:27:48,833
[Brianne] They may have evidence
that he stole directly from her ATM.
479
00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:53,088
We need to examine
everything Ricky said to Bridget
480
00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:54,923
to get money out of her.
481
00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:57,926
Because if we can expose
all of those things as lies,
482
00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,386
we're halfway there.
483
00:27:59,469 --> 00:28:01,554
[tense music plays]
484
00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:07,435
[Brianne] Can you start by looking
through his social media profiles?
485
00:28:13,149 --> 00:28:15,151
[music fades]
486
00:28:15,235 --> 00:28:17,779
[Cecilie] He has a LinkedIn profile.
487
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:21,157
It's a very short profile. It's not a lot.
488
00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,576
I found his Twitter too.
489
00:28:24,452 --> 00:28:26,371
But he hasn't tweeted anything.
490
00:28:26,454 --> 00:28:28,081
There's no workplaces,
491
00:28:28,164 --> 00:28:31,876
like, no schools, no relationship info.
492
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,922
And if you go more in-depth,
there's still nothing here.
493
00:28:36,005 --> 00:28:37,716
[curious music plays]
494
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,260
[Cecilie] But a big part
of his personality,
495
00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:42,929
a big part of Ricky,
is his military career.
496
00:28:43,012 --> 00:28:47,016
And it might have some information there
that I can go after
497
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,352
and see if I can do more of a deep dive.
498
00:28:52,939 --> 00:28:54,858
It looks like there's something here.
499
00:28:56,067 --> 00:28:58,403
I found the Facebook page of his infantry.
500
00:28:58,486 --> 00:29:00,697
And they have pictures, actually,
501
00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:06,161
all the way back to when Ricky
was supposed to be in the army.
502
00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:09,456
It's a long shot,
but I'm just going through the pictures
503
00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:15,378
just seeing if any of these men
resembles Ricky.
504
00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:18,923
That is him!
505
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:21,634
This is great,
506
00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:24,804
because especially
the people around him here,
507
00:29:25,388 --> 00:29:28,183
they would have spent time with Ricky.
508
00:29:29,684 --> 00:29:33,521
And it looks like, yeah,
we would have some names here too.
509
00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:35,607
[ominous music plays]
510
00:29:38,651 --> 00:29:39,486
[chimes]
511
00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:41,654
[chimes]
512
00:29:42,947 --> 00:29:43,782
[chimes]
513
00:29:49,662 --> 00:29:51,664
[music fades]
514
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:54,584
-Hi, Tommy.
-Oh, there we go.
515
00:29:56,085 --> 00:29:57,670
Here we are. [chuckles]
516
00:29:58,254 --> 00:29:59,130
Hi, Brad.
517
00:29:59,756 --> 00:30:01,925
-Hi. How are you?
-[Cecilie] Hi. I'm good.
518
00:30:02,008 --> 00:30:03,760
I'm doing an investigation into Ricky.
519
00:30:03,843 --> 00:30:07,889
What were you doing
in the service with Ricky?
520
00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:11,518
[Tommy] I was a combat medic
deployed to Al-Asad, Iraq.
521
00:30:11,601 --> 00:30:13,770
[Brad] I served in the 3rd platoon.
522
00:30:13,853 --> 00:30:16,105
Ricky was in the same platoon.
523
00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:17,982
What was your impression of Ricky?
524
00:30:18,066 --> 00:30:20,151
Very athletic, good-looking guy.
525
00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:21,861
Smooth talker.
526
00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:23,655
People gravitated to him.
527
00:30:24,155 --> 00:30:25,657
[Cecilie] Was he a good soldier?
528
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:28,243
[Brad] Ricky had all the potential
to be a great soldier.
529
00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:33,164
He just squandered one opportunity,
and then he squandered the second.
530
00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:35,208
He was always a party guy, you know.
531
00:30:35,291 --> 00:30:38,586
You said that he liked to party.
What did you mean by that?
532
00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:42,590
Going to clubs downtown,
getting hammered in the barracks.
533
00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:45,176
I don't wanna say
he was a womanizer, but, uh.
534
00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:47,220
He hit on anything
that would give him attention.
535
00:30:47,303 --> 00:30:49,055
You know, I'll put it that way.
536
00:30:49,138 --> 00:30:52,684
He's been saying that he's had
a military career of ten-plus years.
537
00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:54,644
Um, no, that's a lie.
538
00:30:54,727 --> 00:30:57,981
I'm gonna be completely blunt.
That shit makes me angry.
539
00:30:58,064 --> 00:31:01,818
[Brad] He ended up getting kicked out
for drugs after three years or so.
540
00:31:02,986 --> 00:31:03,820
Yeah.
541
00:31:03,903 --> 00:31:04,904
Wow.
542
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,741
That is a revelation
that is really interesting to hear.
543
00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:09,993
-[Brad] Yeah.
-Okay.
544
00:31:10,743 --> 00:31:13,830
And, like, do you remember him
having a military working dog?
545
00:31:13,913 --> 00:31:15,915
No, I don't see why he would.
546
00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:17,417
Uh, that's a lie.
547
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:19,669
That is a lie.
548
00:31:19,752 --> 00:31:24,257
People that are in our infantry regiment,
you wouldn't have a military working dog.
549
00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:28,303
I mean, I'm trying not to laugh
because that is garbage.
550
00:31:30,388 --> 00:31:32,599
[curious music plays]
551
00:31:32,682 --> 00:31:36,060
[Cecilie] And do you remember
a guy called Clarence Williams III?
552
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:37,604
[Tommy] Yeah.
553
00:31:38,187 --> 00:31:39,314
He's from my hometown.
554
00:31:39,397 --> 00:31:43,151
Did you ever see
Clarence and Ricky together, you know?
555
00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:44,903
-[Tommy] I don't know, uh…
-Okay.
556
00:31:46,863 --> 00:31:48,907
Maybe, possibly, um,
557
00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:53,161
but I can't say for sure
if he knew Clarence that way.
558
00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:58,249
Would you be able to put me in contact
with anyone in Clarence's family?
559
00:31:58,791 --> 00:32:00,126
Let me see what I can do.
560
00:32:00,627 --> 00:32:04,047
Thank you for, you know,
taking the time. Have a good day.
561
00:32:04,631 --> 00:32:06,132
-You too.
-Okay, bye.
562
00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:07,967
-[Tommy] Bye.
-Bye.
563
00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:10,053
[tense music plays]
564
00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:14,974
[chimes]
565
00:32:17,727 --> 00:32:18,728
[chimes]
566
00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:20,855
[chimes]
567
00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:24,525
[line ringing]
568
00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:26,027
[woman] Hello?
569
00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:28,529
Hi, Abrill. My name is Brianne Joseph.
570
00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:32,867
I'm investigating a guy who served
in the military with your brother,
571
00:32:33,868 --> 00:32:35,995
and I would love an opportunity
572
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,373
to speak with you
about some claims that he's made.
573
00:32:39,874 --> 00:32:42,210
[Abrill] Yes, ma'am.
I-- I'm willing to meet.
574
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:44,921
[curious music plays]
575
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,341
[Bridget] A lot of our relationship
revolved around Clarence.
576
00:32:48,841 --> 00:32:51,260
He would talk about Clarence all the time.
577
00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:54,430
Anytime it came up to be, um,
578
00:32:54,514 --> 00:32:59,227
like, Memorial Day, Clarence's birthday,
he would get really emotional.
579
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:03,606
It was always like,
you know, "I wanna help out his family."
580
00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:06,109
"I always gave
Clarence's wife and kids money."
581
00:33:06,901 --> 00:33:10,863
You know, he's like, "If we wanna spend
time together, I need you to help me out."
582
00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:15,493
"As, like, a team we need to do this,
and, you know, I'll pay you back."
583
00:33:17,328 --> 00:33:18,579
I looked up everything.
584
00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:20,748
I would google,
like, the story behind Clarence,
585
00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:25,294
and I could tell he was a real person
and that he had died in battle.
586
00:33:30,675 --> 00:33:34,887
[Brianne] Ricky clearly has exaggerated
a lot about his military experience,
587
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:36,931
but that doesn't make him a criminal.
588
00:33:38,891 --> 00:33:43,855
We have to prove that he had an intention
to, uh, defraud her.
589
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:48,985
-[Brianne] Hi.
-Hi.
590
00:33:49,068 --> 00:33:51,487
I'm Brianne Joseph.
We spoke over the phone.
591
00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:52,989
Oh yes. How are you?
592
00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:54,615
-[Brianne] I'm good.
-My name's Abrill.
593
00:33:57,618 --> 00:34:01,914
This is the keepsake trunk
that we received from Afghanistan.
594
00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:07,045
This is the uniform
that he had left behind.
595
00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:11,799
And this is the day we brought him
596
00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:16,345
to Tampa Air Force Base.
597
00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:17,472
[melancholy music plays]
598
00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:19,849
[Talisa] That's all of us
standing out waiting
599
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,143
to welcome him back.
600
00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:33,112
[Brianne] So, how long did he serve?
601
00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:36,032
[Talisa] He was only in for two years.
602
00:34:36,115 --> 00:34:39,410
That was his first tour to go overseas.
603
00:34:39,494 --> 00:34:41,329
-To Afghanistan.
-[Brianne] Okay.
604
00:34:41,412 --> 00:34:44,040
Was he in contact with you guys often?
605
00:34:44,123 --> 00:34:48,419
He and I talked a lot, um,
sometimes two and three times a day.
606
00:34:48,503 --> 00:34:51,089
He told me from day one
he was getting shot at
607
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:52,965
and bombed at from day one.
608
00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:57,095
[Bridget] Ricky explained to me that
609
00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:58,971
they were going in
and clearing a building.
610
00:35:00,264 --> 00:35:03,559
And that he went right,
but he should have went left.
611
00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:06,646
And he made the mistake and the…
612
00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:09,732
like, the terrorists came
and were shooting at them
613
00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:12,985
and that Clarence stepped in front of him
and saved his life.
614
00:35:14,695 --> 00:35:16,489
He took several bullets for him.
615
00:35:18,699 --> 00:35:20,785
And then he died right in front of Ricky.
616
00:35:21,452 --> 00:35:25,373
So, you know, when he lost Clarence,
it was devastating for him.
617
00:35:27,458 --> 00:35:29,460
[Brianne] So, if you don't mind me asking,
618
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:32,713
what were the circumstances
of him passing away?
619
00:35:33,673 --> 00:35:36,175
[Abrill] It was him
and five other soldiers.
620
00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:39,428
-[Talisa] Got killed, one that survived.
-[Abrill] One survived.
621
00:35:39,512 --> 00:35:42,682
In the vehicle that they were in.
622
00:35:43,432 --> 00:35:44,684
And, um…
623
00:35:45,226 --> 00:35:47,228
[gentle music plays]
624
00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:52,400
Clarence's vehicle
was the one that did get hit.
625
00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:54,652
[Brianne] Mmm. I'm so sorry to hear that.
626
00:35:57,572 --> 00:35:59,532
The reason that I'm here
627
00:35:59,615 --> 00:36:02,702
is because I'm trying
to get a little insight
628
00:36:02,785 --> 00:36:08,082
on one of Clarence's really close friends,
Ricky Morrisey.
629
00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:11,502
He claimed
that Clarence took a bullet for him.
630
00:36:13,462 --> 00:36:17,300
-No, ma'am. That's not… That's incorrect.
-[Abrill] No. Clarence passed by…
631
00:36:17,383 --> 00:36:21,470
Passed away due to an IED,
improvised explosive device.
632
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:24,348
[tense music plays]
633
00:36:25,641 --> 00:36:27,310
He also claimed
634
00:36:27,393 --> 00:36:31,189
that he was
sending money to Clarence's family.
635
00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:32,356
-No.
-[Talisa] No.
636
00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:37,195
If I'm not mistaken,
it was to Clarence's kids?
637
00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:39,739
-Clarence doesn't have any kids.
-No kids at all.
638
00:36:43,659 --> 00:36:44,952
Do you know Ricky?
639
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:49,665
You know, we… we've pretty much met
all of Clarence's friends.
640
00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:53,252
The soldiers would call me Mama Williams.
641
00:36:53,336 --> 00:36:56,172
-That's the type of relationship we have.
-[Brianne] Wow.
642
00:36:56,672 --> 00:36:59,842
And, um, I've never heard of a Ricky.
643
00:37:00,593 --> 00:37:02,595
[music fades]
644
00:37:05,139 --> 00:37:07,683
Anytime, like, we had
a disagreement or argument,
645
00:37:07,767 --> 00:37:10,269
it was, "I swear on Clarence's life."
646
00:37:11,562 --> 00:37:15,733
Ricky was always crying
and he was breaking down in front of me.
647
00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:17,443
It was awkward.
648
00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:21,781
But it felt genuine.
649
00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:24,367
It felt like he was sharing,
like, a part of him.
650
00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:29,038
His tattoo on his arm takes up, like,
the whole bottom part of his forearm.
651
00:37:29,997 --> 00:37:33,292
It was just so crazy for me to think
that somebody could lie about
652
00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:36,087
a tattoo on your arm
of somebody's name that you don't know.
653
00:37:40,132 --> 00:37:43,844
[Talisa] Clarence's name
does not deserve this.
654
00:37:44,637 --> 00:37:48,266
I feel if he gets away with it,
he's gonna continue to do it.
655
00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:50,017
[melancholy music plays]
656
00:37:54,647 --> 00:37:57,191
[Brianne] I hope you guys
enjoy the rest of your day as well.
657
00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,110
-[Abrill] You too.
-Thanks again for everything.
658
00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:00,236
[Talisa] Thank you.
659
00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:06,075
[line ringing]
660
00:38:10,204 --> 00:38:11,497
[sighs]
661
00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:13,874
-[Cecilie] Hi, Bri.
-Hey, Cecilie.
662
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:16,085
-Ricky made it all up.
-[Cecilie] Hold on.
663
00:38:16,585 --> 00:38:20,047
-[gasps] No, he didn't.
-[Brianne] He lied.
664
00:38:20,131 --> 00:38:22,800
Clarence's family has never heard of him.
665
00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:27,179
It's all a scam.
666
00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:32,059
It was all intentional
to deceive Bridget to get her money.
667
00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:35,855
I have to say, it's evil.
He knows so well what he's doing too.
668
00:38:35,938 --> 00:38:38,566
You know, he's dragging
an innocent family into this.
669
00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:40,651
[music fades]
670
00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:48,242
[birds chirping]
671
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:50,119
[somber music playing]
672
00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:54,832
[Cecilie] There are so many levels
to Ricky's deceit.
673
00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:57,126
His military career,
674
00:38:57,626 --> 00:39:00,129
the army dog that never existed,
675
00:39:00,796 --> 00:39:02,923
the best friend who never saved him.
676
00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:08,095
But I still get surprised to see
the lengths that fraudsters will go.
677
00:39:09,055 --> 00:39:11,724
And for them, nothing is off limits.
678
00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:18,522
[Bridget] Any time
I would question something,
679
00:39:18,606 --> 00:39:20,358
he'd either get angry and be like,
680
00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:23,778
"How dare you ask me
these types of questions?"
681
00:39:23,861 --> 00:39:27,656
Or he would turn it around
so that I was, like, the bad person.
682
00:39:30,659 --> 00:39:34,038
One time, I had, like, a $10 random charge
on my debit card.
683
00:39:34,121 --> 00:39:37,083
I think I had texted him during the day,
like, "Hey, did you do this?"
684
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:41,462
And he was like, "No, I didn't do it."
685
00:39:43,422 --> 00:39:44,965
And then I got home from work,
686
00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:47,134
and, like, on the kitchen table
was a suicide note.
687
00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:49,345
[suspenseful music plays]
688
00:39:49,428 --> 00:39:52,473
He had, like, set up this whole thing
in the basement.
689
00:39:53,682 --> 00:39:55,184
And he had a gun to his head.
690
00:39:56,769 --> 00:39:58,479
He made sure I knew it was loaded.
691
00:39:59,522 --> 00:40:02,400
And he was crying,
and he was, like, upset.
692
00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:06,112
And I was just trying to,
like, get that gun out of his hand.
693
00:40:06,195 --> 00:40:08,864
I was terrified.
I didn't know what he was gonna do.
694
00:40:10,991 --> 00:40:13,327
And he finally put it down.
695
00:40:15,162 --> 00:40:18,332
But he had been to war
and I didn't want to traumatize him more.
696
00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:20,543
I… I didn't wanna push him over the edge.
697
00:40:21,335 --> 00:40:23,045
I was shocked, scared.
698
00:40:24,463 --> 00:40:26,632
I did not know what to do.
699
00:40:27,716 --> 00:40:30,803
I didn't know how to get away from him
at that point in time.
700
00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:32,805
I felt like I was stuck.
701
00:40:37,977 --> 00:40:39,979
[curious music plays]
702
00:40:50,489 --> 00:40:52,700
[line ringing]
703
00:40:52,783 --> 00:40:54,827
-[Cecilie] Hello?
-Cecilie.
704
00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:57,371
-[Cecilie] Hi.
-You won't believe what I have.
705
00:40:58,205 --> 00:41:01,917
I have been sent some evidence
from the bank's CCTV.
706
00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:04,462
This is Ricky…
707
00:41:07,131 --> 00:41:08,632
at their ATM machine…
708
00:41:11,677 --> 00:41:13,471
stealing her money, plain as day.
709
00:41:13,554 --> 00:41:14,555
[Cecilie] Wow.
710
00:41:14,638 --> 00:41:17,808
I mean, we know that he lied
about sending money to Clarence
711
00:41:17,892 --> 00:41:20,936
and his experience in the military.
712
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,480
And now we have him
713
00:41:22,563 --> 00:41:25,941
literally looking into the camera
as he steals her money.
714
00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:34,867
[suspenseful music plays]
715
00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:40,247
[Brianne] We have all the evidence
we need,
716
00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:43,334
but the police
are far more likely to act quickly
717
00:41:43,417 --> 00:41:46,462
if we can show exactly where he is.
718
00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:49,715
We need to find Ricky.
719
00:41:50,257 --> 00:41:51,842
[line ringing]
720
00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:53,177
[Cecilie] Hi, Brianne.
721
00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:56,889
Bridget gave some names of bars
that he used to hang out at.
722
00:41:56,972 --> 00:41:59,808
[Brianne] Good.
I'm gonna start with the bars.
723
00:41:59,892 --> 00:42:01,977
Talk to the patrons, talk to the owner,
724
00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:05,022
figure out if he's been there,
have they seen him,
725
00:42:05,105 --> 00:42:07,733
and more importantly,
do they know where he is now?
726
00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:13,781
[indistinct chatter]
727
00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:17,159
Have you seen this guy here?
His family's looking for him.
728
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:19,537
Do you guys recognize him?
729
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:20,454
Anybody? No?
730
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,581
-[man] He looks like someone I'd know.
-[man 2] I don't.
731
00:42:22,665 --> 00:42:24,750
-You can't put--
-[man 3] I can't honestly say I have.
732
00:42:25,918 --> 00:42:27,920
[funky music plays]
733
00:42:29,088 --> 00:42:31,632
[Brianne] A lot of the real
investigative work
734
00:42:31,715 --> 00:42:34,468
comes when you're pounding the pavement,
735
00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:38,180
when you're going door-to-door
getting information from people.
736
00:42:40,432 --> 00:42:42,601
Do you mind
if I showed you guys his photo?
737
00:42:42,685 --> 00:42:44,645
I don't know who that is.
738
00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:47,898
[Brianne] I'm looking for him.
His family's looking for him. Yeah.
739
00:42:47,982 --> 00:42:49,441
[man 4] He looks familiar, but like…
740
00:42:49,525 --> 00:42:52,319
I, like, see so many people
come in and out of here all the time.
741
00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:54,113
[Brianne] Yeah. Yeah, I get it.
742
00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:57,491
Sometimes they don't wanna talk to me,
743
00:42:57,575 --> 00:43:01,870
but to be a good P.I.,
you have to be relentless.
744
00:43:03,956 --> 00:43:09,003
Mind if I ask you a real quick question?
Um, does this guy look familiar to you?
745
00:43:10,004 --> 00:43:12,381
-You said-- What was his name?
-[Brianne] His name is Ricky.
746
00:43:12,464 --> 00:43:14,341
-Ricky?
-[Brianne] Ricky Morrisey, yeah.
747
00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:15,759
[ominous music plays]
748
00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:18,262
Maybe? You know,
show me his picture again.
749
00:43:18,345 --> 00:43:19,263
[Brianne] Yeah.
750
00:43:25,644 --> 00:43:28,188
[woman] My friend Tammy
was talking to somebody.
751
00:43:28,772 --> 00:43:29,732
His name was Ricky.
752
00:43:29,815 --> 00:43:32,026
-[Brianne] Really? Is that her boyfriend?
-Yeah.
753
00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:36,280
They might be… I don't know
if they're boyfriend-girlfriend.
754
00:43:36,363 --> 00:43:39,742
-They might be dating.
-[Brianne] Okay. How do I reach Tammy?
755
00:43:40,409 --> 00:43:42,620
-That's her number there? Perfect.
-Yes.
756
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:48,876
[music fades]
757
00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:50,294
[line ringing]
758
00:43:52,755 --> 00:43:53,589
[woman] Hello?
759
00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:54,923
Hi, Tammy?
760
00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:56,175
[Tammy] Hi.
761
00:43:56,258 --> 00:43:59,178
My name is Brianne.
I'm a private investigator.
762
00:43:59,261 --> 00:44:05,100
I am trying to locate any information
on a guy named Ricky Morrisey.
763
00:44:05,184 --> 00:44:06,977
I think you might know him.
764
00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:10,481
[Tammy] I met him on a dating app.
765
00:44:10,564 --> 00:44:14,318
We just went on a couple of dates
to be honest with you, and that was it.
766
00:44:14,943 --> 00:44:19,281
[Brianne] I'm gonna level with you.
He has left a woman with a lot of debt.
767
00:44:20,491 --> 00:44:22,618
-[Tammy] Wow. What a scumbag.
-[Brianne] Yeah.
768
00:44:23,243 --> 00:44:25,871
So if you could help me
with tracking him down
769
00:44:25,954 --> 00:44:29,625
and point us in his direction,
I would really appreciate it.
770
00:44:29,708 --> 00:44:31,126
[Tammy] Yes, absolutely.
771
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,379
[Brianne] That's perfect.
Thank you so much, Tammy.
772
00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:34,755
[Tammy] You're welcome.
773
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:50,062
[cell phone chimes]
774
00:44:53,315 --> 00:44:58,654
Tammy just sent me some messages
that she's been having with Ricky.
775
00:45:01,782 --> 00:45:03,409
She asked him where he was at,
776
00:45:03,492 --> 00:45:06,578
and he said he was in South Boston
working as a chef.
777
00:45:06,662 --> 00:45:10,207
I have an address.
Now we know where he is.
778
00:45:10,833 --> 00:45:13,919
We need to call Bridget
and let her know what we found.
779
00:45:15,421 --> 00:45:17,214
[soft music plays]
780
00:45:18,674 --> 00:45:20,509
[line ringing]
781
00:45:20,592 --> 00:45:22,219
Hi, Bridget, it's Cecilie.
782
00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:25,889
-[Bridget] Hi, Cecilie, how are you?
-Hi, I'm good. How are you?
783
00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:28,142
-[Bridget] I'm hanging in there.
-Good.
784
00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:32,062
I have some good news, actually.
We know so much more.
785
00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:35,149
We know the truth now of what he's done.
786
00:45:36,525 --> 00:45:37,985
Ricky lied about Clarence,
787
00:45:38,068 --> 00:45:40,279
and we have the evidence
he stole from you.
788
00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:46,952
[Bridget] I'm just shocked, um.
Like, who'd-- who would ever do that?
789
00:45:47,453 --> 00:45:49,329
It's not an easy thing
to have gone through.
790
00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:51,957
At least we have some more answers now.
791
00:45:52,958 --> 00:45:54,251
[Bridget] It makes me angry.
792
00:45:54,334 --> 00:45:57,504
It hurts to know
that somebody can do that.
793
00:45:57,588 --> 00:46:01,759
Um, Brianne has managed to find out
where Ricky is.
794
00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:03,343
We have a very good lead.
795
00:46:03,427 --> 00:46:05,220
[Bridget] I want to confront him.
796
00:46:05,304 --> 00:46:08,182
At this point,
I need to see him face-to-face.
797
00:46:08,807 --> 00:46:13,270
I wanna get some sort of closure
or explanation on what happened.
798
00:46:15,522 --> 00:46:19,818
I can't be afraid for the rest of my life.
I can't let Ricky ruin me.
799
00:46:20,569 --> 00:46:24,448
[Cecilie] Okay, if that's what you want,
we can make that happen.
800
00:46:24,531 --> 00:46:28,577
I want you to know that,
of course, you're not alone in this.
801
00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:30,829
So, Brianne said that we have to act quick
802
00:46:30,913 --> 00:46:33,332
'cause we don't know
if he's gonna move again.
803
00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:39,755
[funky pop music plays]
804
00:46:49,932 --> 00:46:54,978
[Bridget] I don't think he would expect
that I would stand up to him, honestly.
805
00:46:55,687 --> 00:46:57,689
I needed to heal myself
806
00:46:57,773 --> 00:47:01,902
just to take back
that control and that power
807
00:47:01,985 --> 00:47:03,862
that he took from me for two years.
808
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:16,792
[music ends]
809
00:47:17,543 --> 00:47:21,964
Brianne is gonna let us know
when, um, they have a sighting of him,
810
00:47:22,047 --> 00:47:26,969
and that's when we need then to get
as quickly as possible out of this car.
811
00:47:30,264 --> 00:47:32,057
[ominous music plays]
812
00:47:42,067 --> 00:47:43,861
[Brianne] That's him in the green.
813
00:47:43,944 --> 00:47:45,153
We gotta go now.
814
00:47:46,363 --> 00:47:48,740
Let's go. Yes, now.
Now, now, now. Go, go, go.
815
00:47:49,324 --> 00:47:50,534
[Cecilie] We need to go.
816
00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:53,745
Go, go.
817
00:47:55,414 --> 00:47:57,416
[upbeat music plays]
818
00:48:22,608 --> 00:48:23,817
[music ends]
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