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According to Newton's third law of motion,
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for every action,
there is an equal and opposite reaction.
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And so it is here, in the unforgiving
wastelands of down under,
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where two unstoppable titans
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hurtled toward a fateful collision.
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The first is an aspiring narco kingpin,
a man you know well,
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but the other is a masked crusader,
draped in mystery.
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A modern day Robin Hood, he takes
from casinos and gives to the poor.
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All the way across the room,
Rick Leventhal in Studio N.
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He calls himself Robin Hood 702
because 702 is a Las Vegas area code,
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and he's asking for submissions
to robinhood702.com
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from anyone $25,000 to $50,000 in debt.
He plans to...
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The first time I heard
the name Robin Hood 702,
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it was a quiet day in the newsroom
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because it was summertime,
and Sydney's away on holiday.
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My editor tapped me on the shoulder,
and he said,
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"Let's do a little write up
on Robin Hood 702."
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My name is Mark Saunokonoko.
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I'm a news reporter
with 9News in Sydney, Australia.
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Robin Hood 702, the concept.
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A guy who could go into a casino,
high roller with a load of cash,
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a million dollars, if not more.
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And whatever he won,
he would donate to somebody in need.
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He rescues one deserving family
drowning in debt.
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Megan and Kurt Hagler's
daughter, Madison,
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has a lime-sized brain tumor,
and they can't keep up with the bills.
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Maybe there was an illness in the family.
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Maybe someone had fallen
into a ton of debt.
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I got your money.
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35 grand in $100 chips.
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It sounds almost too good to be true.
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Well, it is true.
We witnessed it firsthand.
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All right, Rick Leventhal.
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-Rick, thank you very much.
-Sure.
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-Jenna, over to you.
-Such a great story.
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He would have a black mask around his face
and a baseball cap pulled down low.
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What's the deal with the mask?
You look like a bank robber.
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In interviews, he created this persona
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and the character
how he wants you to see him.
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And he had a website where he would say,
"Submit why I should help you."
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And people would upload their stories.
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People look at gamblers,
they don't see saints. They see sinners.
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That's why I'm Robin Hood 702.
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He wasn't a saint or sinner.
He was a little of both.
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And that's what I am, a little of both.
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We would speak quite often.
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You know...
He's a huge character.
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And he tells a great story.
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Do you have advice for me
in dealing with him?
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Um...
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Be prepared for a few demands, I think.
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Where's the monitor?
I got a monitor I can see?
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This is the view?
I mean, I think-- Really?
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What do you look like
without the sunglasses?
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No.
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Whenever you're set,
let me just get a final look,
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so I can see
if I'm better with my arm up or not up.
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-Tell me when you're ready.
-Yeah, I'm ready.
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Who is Robin Hood 702?
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You don't have to introduce me.
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People know who I am.
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I've been all over the news
all over the world, man.
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They know who the fuck I am.
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He's, uh...
He's an engaging guy.
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And he told me this one story
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How, in 2011,
a businessman out of Sydney, Australia,
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gets in touch with him.
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Big businessman that's got
a lot of money, wants to get involved.
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He wanted to be part
of my Robin Hood thing.
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-Robin Hood came down to Australia.
-We're here!
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He did a media interview on
the top suite of the Four Seasons Hotel.
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I'm going to try to help somebody
that needs up to $20-$25,000.
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What happens if you lose?
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Well, I don't like to say
the L word, Richard.
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-Sorry. What happens if you don't win?
-Okay, that's better.
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And a little bit later on,
this businessman turns up,
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and he says, "Here's $1,500,000.
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Whatever you win on top of the cash
that I give you,
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you can give it away to your needy people.
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And he introduces himself
by the name of Junior DeLuca.
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Junior DeLuca.
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He told me
his name was Junior DeLuca, brother.
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He said, "Junior DeLuca,"
which was bullshit.
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Owen's the sort of person that'd be
able to sell you a version of events
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and make you believe them.
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He's good at that.
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He's very likable, he's charismatic.
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I think Owen would always sell himself
as being a good person.
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But end of the day, he was very ruthless.
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The high end of drug supply.
It ruins people, ruins families.
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A family home in Auburn
was sprayed with bullets.
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There's always guns, there's always
violence. There's always murders.
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They all go in together.
They can't be separated.
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Police!
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So there's a lot
of bad that comes out of it.
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I've been in the New South Wales Police
for 31 years,
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investigating drug importation
and money laundering.
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Drugs prices here are sky high
compared to the US.
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It's the distance.
The border protection's pretty robust.
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And it's difficult to launder money
out of Australia.
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It's a similar problem
for most drug importers.
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Owen was a little bit naive,
a little bit clumsy with the money.
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Well, I've been hired by the cartel.
This is drug money.
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It's not like you're getting a wire
or a Bitcoin or a check.
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Can't just bring a suitcase full of cash
on a plane.
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You got customs authorities.
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Or if you go to a bank,
they're going to say,
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"We need your passport,
we need your ID."
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I mean, you practically
give blood to these people.
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You need to avoid any kind of paper trail.
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You're going to be known
as a money launderer.
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Someone that is in the business.
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So I'm fucking staring at this money
in my kitchen cabinet,
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opening the dishwasher
and stacking money in the dishwasher.
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I have no other choice.
I've got to keep it somewhere.
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What the fuck am I going to do?
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How am I going to get
this money out of there?
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I pop a Xanax.
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And I just started brainstorming.
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I mean, what is Australia known for?
Kangaroos...
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You got Crocodile Dundee, AC/DC.
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That's it.
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Uggs, as they're commonly
called, are all the rage these days.
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The Australian-made sheepskin boots
are soft, they're trendy and expensive.
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At the time, Uggs were huge.
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So my idea was, I get the Uggs,
tear the soles out,
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and I go buy a gold bullion with cash,
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put four coins on each sole.
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Over $10,000 a shipment to the US,
and I'm like, "Fuck yeah."
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But it doesn't even
put a dent in this money.
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I got more product coming in.
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Package.
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You know, I'm trying to move it,
but it's coming in hot.
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I'm only laundering
$100-$150,000 a day.
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Okay, a million Tuesday,
a million Wednesday,
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a million Thursday, a million Friday.
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Take Saturday, Sunday off.
Then another million--
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I'm like, "Holy fuck." I have no way
to clean this stuff fast enough.
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He gets $1,500,000 in 25 minutes,
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but then it takes a month for him
to wash $1,500,000.
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It's a catch-22.
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I start to panic.
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The shit's about to hit the fan.
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Laundering money is very difficult.
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The more money you launder,
the more exposure you have.
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I worked in a narcotics squad
24 years in the FBI.
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The Sinaloa cartel,
makes $3 billion a year.
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But they need to get that money
from illegal means and make it usable.
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A person like Owen
would be very useful to the cartel
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because of his access to other people.
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He's the perfect guy to do business with.
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I need to find a perfect
money laundering scheme.
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So what do I do?
I go to that famous Rolodex.
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So I remember calling this friend of mine,
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and she says, "Listen, I got someone
that would be perfect for this."
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His name is Robin Hood.
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Robin Hood 702.
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That was the answer.
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And I said, "Tell him
that my name's Junior. Junior DeLuca."
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Of course. Junior DeLuca.
It sounds like a mob name.
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Yeah, for sure. That's Owen.
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I meet him in Santa Monica.
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I said, "I'm a bookie out of LA,
but I have this customer in Australia."
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I said, "He's losing money, and I have
no fucking way to get it back to the US."
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So you lied about it being drug money?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It's a white lie, you know.
It's not the worst thing.
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He said he's interested in helping me out.
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You know, he gave me
the best sales pitch I've ever seen.
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I remember he showed me this site
he had, robinhood702.com.
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And I'm like, "Wow, this is legit."
He's going to use this as his front.
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This guy is totally on the up and up,
though, right?
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Yeah, he... Well, up and up in the sense
that he is going to follow through.
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He did it last year.
I was there. I witnessed it.
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He gave this family a bagful
of $100 chips.
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I mean, the guy is for real.
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Some might say
that is a genius way to launder cash.
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As far as I can tell, he appeared to be
at least telling some of the truth.
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So he wasn't a charlatan.
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He would talk about gambling
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alongside Tiger Woods
and Michael Jordan in VIP rooms.
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When I met Michael Jordan,
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I squeezed his hand and said,
"Feel the energy of this ring."
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Michael Jordan.
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That was the power
of being a high roller in Vegas.
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I'm a fearless high roller,
it's a difference.
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You're never going to meet someone
that has as big as balls,
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elephant balls, like me.
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This guy is so arrogant,
like he's so cocky.
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He must be the real deal.
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And he told me
he'll work for a 25% commission.
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He wanted a penthouse suite
at the Four Seasons.
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I need a first class ticket, and I need
all the money to be in Tumi luggage.
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I go, "Motherfucker." Should I say,
"Yes, Your Majesty," after this?
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But there's no way I'm going to say no.
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I'm desperate.
I gotta get this money out of there.
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If I could do it again, I would say,
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-"Owen, run as fast as you can."
-Free!
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Pretend like you're running that 40
at USC and run, run, run, baby.
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Because this guy is going to cause you
some fucking problems.
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His idea was very simple.
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He's going to take my $1,500,000,
turn it into chips,
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play a couple of hands,
lose some, win some.
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And he's going to just say, "Ah, you know,
just not really feeling it."
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"Can you cash me out?
I got to go back to the US."
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And they would present him a check,
to the sister casino in Vegas.
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The Venetian, the Bellagio,
or Caesar's Palace or whatever,
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and he can literally cash the check.
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Within 24 hours, he was already
on a plane back to Las Vegas.
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And within 48 hours,
he's like, "Hey, Junior, it's done."
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I said, "Holy shit."
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It was the perfect remedy to my madness.
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I remember messaging El Jefe that day,
and I said,
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"I found the money laundering magician."
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El Jefe's like, "Man, that was
the smoothest business I've ever seen."
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He goes, "You're the real deal, O-Dog."
And I was like, "Fuck, yeah."
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And then just... I got goose bumps.
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And the next thing you know,
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Robin Hood said,
"Hey, can we do it again?"
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Fuck, yeah, we can do it again.
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I got $2.5 right now
sitting in my dishwasher.
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Come on down under.
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He says, "Hey, I'm going to bring
this reporter. He's from Fox News."
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"He's going to
make this thing look legit."
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I was excited. Fuck it, let's go.
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I show up to the Four Seasons.
He's in his penthouse on my dollar,
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and I give him the $2,500,000
in two suitcases.
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Was he hesitant?
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Wasn't hesitant at all,
he's the one that contacted me.
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He laundered $1,500,000
from me in 48 hours.
231
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I'm not even going to entertain
a reaction to that absurdity.
232
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I would have never, ever did anything
if it was anything sideways, ever.
233
00:12:33,211 --> 00:12:36,089
He obviously had to give a story
to save his ass.
234
00:12:36,173 --> 00:12:37,591
I gave you the money,
and you laundered it.
235
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And you collected the commission.
236
00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:41,761
You never donated any kind of money
to any charity.
237
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Anybody that was in need.
238
00:12:43,889 --> 00:12:47,517
I'm assuming you found
a family to give the proceeds to, right?
239
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We were looking for a family
the first time.
240
00:12:56,193 --> 00:12:58,653
This is where the stories diverge
a little bit here.
241
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According to Robin Hood 702,
the second time he arrived in Australia,
242
00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:12,792
standing at the door is Junior DeLuca,
with $2,500,000, Australian currency.
243
00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:18,381
And he says that this money
was wrapped up in shrink-wrapped plastic,
244
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like a drug dealer would keep it.
245
00:13:22,093 --> 00:13:25,639
And the money smelled
like it had been stored somewhere.
246
00:13:26,473 --> 00:13:28,517
Robin Hood was like, "Hang on a minute."
247
00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,769
So I said, "I don't want to do that."
248
00:13:31,978 --> 00:13:36,733
And he said, "No, you're going to do it.
We know where you live."
249
00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:38,527
"Know what your wife's name is."
250
00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:40,487
"And you're going to take this money,
251
00:13:40,570 --> 00:13:43,406
and you're going to go into the casino,
and you're going to gamble it."
252
00:13:44,533 --> 00:13:49,037
Owen Hanson became visible to me,
what he really was.
253
00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:52,082
There was no threats over it.
254
00:13:52,165 --> 00:13:54,167
We're doing business,
and we're doing great business.
255
00:13:54,251 --> 00:13:55,669
I'm not going to threaten you.
256
00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:59,297
Again, I don't know.
Why would he do this?
257
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,717
This whole story is stranger than fiction,
258
00:14:02,801 --> 00:14:05,136
so the truth probably lies
somewhere in the middle, man,
259
00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,266
what may have happened
at the Star Casino that day.
260
00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:13,228
Robin Hood cashes in again
for $2,500,000.
261
00:14:13,311 --> 00:14:16,690
And this is when he says, "I put it
in the hands of the gambling gods."
262
00:14:24,614 --> 00:14:26,241
So in August 2011,
263
00:14:26,324 --> 00:14:29,578
the police were called down
to Star City Casino right here.
264
00:14:29,661 --> 00:14:34,249
$2,400,000 of cash was being deposited
by Robin Hood 702.
265
00:14:36,293 --> 00:14:38,712
Police come down.
They had a look from a distance.
266
00:14:40,422 --> 00:14:43,633
The money was wet and suspicious,
it was in plastic bags,
267
00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:45,176
cryogenically packed.
268
00:14:46,011 --> 00:14:49,514
So immediately, they flagged it up
to the federal authorities
269
00:14:49,598 --> 00:14:53,018
as like, "Questionable money
has just been cashed in."
270
00:14:53,101 --> 00:14:54,853
"It's got a dank smell to it."
271
00:14:54,936 --> 00:14:56,605
And then they had a look at the footage
272
00:14:56,688 --> 00:14:58,732
that happened up
in the high rollers rooms.
273
00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:04,070
Robin Hood is betting $20,000 a spot.
274
00:15:04,988 --> 00:15:07,490
Three spots, 60K on the table.
275
00:15:07,574 --> 00:15:11,244
To me, that was the way that no gambler
ever bets at the blackjack table.
276
00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,000
You can see Robin Hood was getting
more and more nervous.
277
00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:19,044
He's fidgeting, he's putting his hands
down his belt.
278
00:15:21,504 --> 00:15:23,506
Progressively loses money.
279
00:15:23,882 --> 00:15:26,885
And you could see that
he didn't want to lose that money.
280
00:15:28,053 --> 00:15:29,721
I think Robin Hood was concerned
281
00:15:29,804 --> 00:15:31,765
about the people
that he was dealing with at the time.
282
00:15:34,601 --> 00:15:36,895
I remember texting
El Jefe on the encrypted phone.
283
00:15:42,192 --> 00:15:46,738
If he has a ton, that's a thousand kilos.
Do the math. That's $50 million.
284
00:15:47,906 --> 00:15:50,450
Everything's working just fine.
It's a well-oiled machine.
285
00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:54,454
The next thing you know,
Robin Hood is on the other line.
286
00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:57,040
I'm thinking like,
"He did it. He did it again."
287
00:15:57,499 --> 00:16:00,043
And he's like, "Hey, we got problems."
288
00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:02,379
I said, "What do you mean,
we got problems?"
289
00:16:03,338 --> 00:16:05,340
He tells me he's lost my money.
290
00:16:05,423 --> 00:16:07,801
I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait a minute here."
291
00:16:07,884 --> 00:16:11,971
"You don't have money to lose."
I said, "We had an agreement."
292
00:16:12,055 --> 00:16:14,933
"The agreement we made
is you're going to pretend to play."
293
00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:18,228
There's no fucking way
this guy lost that kind of money.
294
00:16:18,937 --> 00:16:21,564
Let's face it.
Robin Hood's a professional gambler.
295
00:16:21,648 --> 00:16:24,776
If he can bet big with somebody's
bank, he's going to bet big.
296
00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:29,531
And so he ended up losing
$2,500,000 in about four hours.
297
00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:33,451
Maximum bet, full stick,
swinging for the fence every time.
298
00:16:34,577 --> 00:16:37,038
He lost the money
because he's a gambling degenerate.
299
00:16:37,122 --> 00:16:39,040
'Cause no one wants
to lose money on purpose.
300
00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:43,128
So I kind of help
the gambling gods by playing recklessly
301
00:16:43,211 --> 00:16:44,963
and almost blowing it on purpose.
302
00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:47,465
I knew something wasn't right,
303
00:16:47,549 --> 00:16:50,552
and I figured if I blow the money,
what are they going to do?
304
00:16:51,219 --> 00:16:54,305
I don't believe for a second
that Robin Hood tried to lose the money
305
00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:57,892
because he suddenly realized
that he's being an instrument
306
00:16:57,976 --> 00:16:59,269
in money laundering.
307
00:16:59,811 --> 00:17:02,772
Rubbish.
He just basically lost the money.
308
00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:05,358
And then he panicked about it.
309
00:17:07,402 --> 00:17:08,944
"I lost it all, man."
310
00:17:09,820 --> 00:17:12,656
And he said, "Come on, just give me
some more. I'll win it back."
311
00:17:12,741 --> 00:17:16,202
I said, "No, no, no. We need to meet.
We need to meet now."
312
00:17:16,286 --> 00:17:18,288
I'm with my personal trainer,
Sean Carolan.
313
00:17:19,455 --> 00:17:23,667
This guy's this jacked UFC fighter,
slash boxing coach.
314
00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:27,172
And I'm like, "Hey, I'm gonna need
your help, man."
315
00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:29,966
"Put on that three piece suit you got.
You're my muscle now."
316
00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:37,891
We show up there,
and we just look like mobsters.
317
00:17:37,974 --> 00:17:40,310
We had a look at the footage,
and you see 'em in the restaurant,
318
00:17:40,393 --> 00:17:43,563
and see there's a conversation going on.
It's a bit heated.
319
00:17:43,646 --> 00:17:45,440
Sean's looking at him
just not saying a word,
320
00:17:45,523 --> 00:17:47,817
just looking at him
like a fucking pit bull ready to bite.
321
00:17:48,526 --> 00:17:51,070
Robin Hood.
He was just shaking like a leaf.
322
00:17:52,155 --> 00:17:54,032
"Shaking like a leaf?"
323
00:17:54,115 --> 00:17:56,534
I'm six-foot-five. I'm Italian.
324
00:17:56,618 --> 00:17:58,995
I was already planning
who I was going to hit first
325
00:17:59,913 --> 00:18:02,415
with the bottle of champagne
that I ordered.
326
00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:05,460
He doesn't know what we're going to do.
327
00:18:06,461 --> 00:18:08,004
You know,
are we gonna smash him on sight?
328
00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:10,048
Are we going to shoot him right
point blank in the head or what?
329
00:18:11,049 --> 00:18:13,009
That's what happens
when people lose that kind of money.
330
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,012
Then I told him, "You fucked up, son."
331
00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:20,350
"There's $2,500,000 missing,
and you are responsible for it."
332
00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:23,061
And Sean's like,
"Let me take care of it from here."
333
00:18:23,144 --> 00:18:25,188
According to Robin Hood 702,
334
00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:28,566
Sean Carolan says,
"You go to the cashier desk,
335
00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:31,361
you're gonna cash out,
you're gonna come back,
336
00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:34,030
you're gonna bring your passport,
or I'm going to slit your fucking throat."
337
00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:40,453
He's in a bad...
That's a bad position to be in.
338
00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:46,084
He and Sean Carolan thought
they could do whatever they wanted,
339
00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:47,418
and I would listen to every word.
340
00:18:47,502 --> 00:18:49,087
They had no clue
who they were dealing with.
341
00:18:50,922 --> 00:18:53,591
This is where Robin Hood
might have been pretty smart.
342
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:57,846
He says, "Okay. Okay.
Let me go back and get my passport."
343
00:18:58,513 --> 00:19:02,475
"But I want you to know,
I'm here with a news reporter."
344
00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:06,771
"He's playing in the casino somewhere.
Let me go and get him, a couple of hours."
345
00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:09,524
I think they were concerned
about this idea
346
00:19:09,607 --> 00:19:12,986
of a rogue news reporter on the loose
while something bad was going down.
347
00:19:14,362 --> 00:19:15,780
They go, "Okay."
348
00:19:16,698 --> 00:19:20,493
I bring Sean Carolan back to
my stash house, and we just wait there.
349
00:19:21,452 --> 00:19:24,080
At this point, I'm furious. I'm pissed.
350
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:26,207
I'm nervous.
I'm scared, this ain't my money.
351
00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:30,587
In 20 minutes, Robin Hood calls.
352
00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:35,008
Robin Hood said, "Hey, listen,
man, I think the cops are tailing me."
353
00:19:35,383 --> 00:19:38,219
"This car's been following me
this whole time since I left the casino."
354
00:19:38,303 --> 00:19:40,054
Says, "Hey, the police are after me."
355
00:19:40,638 --> 00:19:42,307
I'm like,
"Oh, this guy's pulling a fast one."
356
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:44,392
Man, I said,
"Oh, miss me with that bullshit."
357
00:19:44,475 --> 00:19:45,351
"The cops ain't following you."
358
00:19:45,435 --> 00:19:47,687
I said,
"We got a hotel room at the Hilton."
359
00:19:47,770 --> 00:19:49,898
"Show up with your passport.
We're going to resolve this."
360
00:19:49,981 --> 00:19:52,025
You know,
I don't want this guy leaving the country.
361
00:19:52,108 --> 00:19:53,735
You know,
when somebody comes after you,
362
00:19:53,818 --> 00:19:57,780
you may have to do something
to stay alive.
363
00:19:58,781 --> 00:20:03,161
Immediately, Robin Hood starts
packing bags, head for the airport.
364
00:20:04,162 --> 00:20:05,872
But he said,
"I don't owe this guy any money."
365
00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:10,126
"He gave it to me. He knew the risks.
I'm a gambler. This is what can happen."
366
00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:12,795
It's like midnight, and he still
hasn't called. So I'm like, "Fuck it."
367
00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:14,714
I say, "Hey, Sean,
I'm going to take some cash."
368
00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,425
"I'm going to put it in a suitcase for
you, and let's get it to the Hilton."
369
00:20:17,508 --> 00:20:20,136
You gave your personal trainer $700,000?
370
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,639
Yeah, I mean, it's not logical, but...
371
00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:25,266
In my mind, I was so fucking paranoid,
372
00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:27,310
I just wanted to get the money
out of the stash house,
373
00:20:27,393 --> 00:20:28,937
so nobody else could take it.
374
00:20:30,188 --> 00:20:32,774
Half the time,
I wasn't even in my right mind.
375
00:20:32,857 --> 00:20:36,194
I was doing so much ecstasy
and Xanax and alcohol.
376
00:20:36,277 --> 00:20:38,237
I'm snorting the rack,
as they call it in Australia,
377
00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:39,447
which is the blow.
378
00:20:43,326 --> 00:20:45,745
I was like, "Oh, fuck."
I just want to be numb.
379
00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:48,790
I don't want to feel any of this.
380
00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:56,923
It's not what I did to Owen Hanson.
It's the way I did it.
381
00:20:57,006 --> 00:21:01,719
I go after people
in a very artful way.
382
00:21:02,804 --> 00:21:05,431
And so Robin Hood
calls up the Hilton Hotel,
383
00:21:05,515 --> 00:21:06,933
which is where they were going to meet.
384
00:21:07,433 --> 00:21:09,519
Hello, this is the Hilton Sydney.
385
00:21:09,602 --> 00:21:15,066
I made that call that there was somebody
in a certain room with a weapon.
386
00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:20,405
"There's a guy with a gun in room 3206."
Hangs up, boom.
387
00:21:20,488 --> 00:21:23,700
Hotel security goes,
"Well, we're calling the police."
388
00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:25,994
So the police come down.
They don't know what it's about.
389
00:21:26,077 --> 00:21:27,245
They just know it could be a gun.
390
00:21:27,328 --> 00:21:29,414
They have a look in the room.
They can't see anything.
391
00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:32,000
I mean, timing, man, timing.
392
00:21:32,083 --> 00:21:34,836
At that moment, in walks Sean Carolan,
393
00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:39,173
wheeling a bag,
a suitcase with $702,000 of cash.
394
00:21:44,095 --> 00:21:45,388
So they take Sean Carolan down
395
00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:47,390
to the New South Wales
Police Headquarters,
396
00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:49,183
and they ask him
what he was doing with that money.
397
00:21:49,267 --> 00:21:51,269
And Sean Carolan is evasive.
398
00:21:51,894 --> 00:21:55,273
He's giving these answers around,
"It's an American guy's money."
399
00:21:55,356 --> 00:21:59,610
A guy called Junior DeLuca.
Junior DeLuca.
400
00:21:59,694 --> 00:22:01,696
It's like one in the morning,
401
00:22:01,779 --> 00:22:03,781
and I get a call on my cell phone.
402
00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:09,120
It's a lady's voice, and she goes,
"Hello, is Junior in?"
403
00:22:09,203 --> 00:22:12,373
And I'm like, "Fuck, what the fuck
is this?" I'm thinking to myself.
404
00:22:12,457 --> 00:22:15,710
And she's like, "Junior,
we're calling in regards to the $700,000
405
00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:17,920
we found in a suitcase with Sean Carolan."
406
00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:21,049
And I'm like, "Whoa, the 700K?
What are you talking about?"
407
00:22:21,132 --> 00:22:23,926
She's like, "This is the New South Wales
Police Department."
408
00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:25,928
"Would you please come into the office?"
409
00:22:27,555 --> 00:22:30,475
At that point, the police, they're really
starting to piece things together.
410
00:22:31,476 --> 00:22:35,063
We knew that Robin Hood
was connected to the $700,000,
411
00:22:35,146 --> 00:22:36,355
but we didn't really know how.
412
00:22:36,439 --> 00:22:40,526
When the Robin Hood boarded the plane
to fly back to the US,
413
00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:42,945
detectives pulled him off the plane.
414
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:45,948
They tried to stop me.
Why didn't they?
415
00:22:47,116 --> 00:22:49,619
Why don't you ask them? Why don't
you call them? Want their numbers?
416
00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:51,746
The pilot came out and said,
417
00:22:51,829 --> 00:22:54,665
"Well, are they going to charge this guy,
or let him go?"
418
00:22:55,083 --> 00:22:58,461
At that time, they didn't have enough
evidence, so they had to let him go.
419
00:22:59,128 --> 00:23:00,129
There you go.
420
00:23:00,713 --> 00:23:03,007
Robin Hood calls and says,
"I'm out of here."
421
00:23:03,091 --> 00:23:06,886
It felt like he was showing
that he got away with it, like he escaped.
422
00:23:06,969 --> 00:23:12,767
And we started trying to work out
where this $3,200,000 all came from.
423
00:23:13,518 --> 00:23:15,770
That's kind of what really
kicked the job off.
424
00:23:19,148 --> 00:23:21,651
I'm in the hole,
$3,200,000 in one day.
425
00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:23,945
Just a matter of time,
they figure out who Junior is.
426
00:23:24,028 --> 00:23:26,447
They're going to figure out
Junior is actually Owen Hanson.
427
00:23:26,531 --> 00:23:29,158
That's when I get on the plane,
and I get the fuck out of Australia.
428
00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:40,628
His life was just
exposed on so many levels.
429
00:23:41,504 --> 00:23:44,048
His business partner
was the Sinaloa cartel.
430
00:23:44,132 --> 00:23:47,593
They don't have any problem
sawing someone's head off.
431
00:23:47,677 --> 00:23:51,305
They will bury you to your neck
and run you over.
432
00:23:51,389 --> 00:23:54,892
If they don't like how business is going,
they're going to address it themselves.
433
00:23:57,603 --> 00:23:58,896
My life's over.
434
00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:01,482
I just went from becoming
this multimillionaire
435
00:24:01,566 --> 00:24:03,109
to becoming a dead man.
436
00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:12,827
I knew it was something different.
I'd meet up with him.
437
00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:14,745
Like, "Yo, man, you slipping, man,
what's up?"
438
00:24:14,829 --> 00:24:16,164
"What's going on with you? You all right?"
439
00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:20,418
He started explaining to me
how he started coming up
440
00:24:20,501 --> 00:24:21,919
and some things he did.
441
00:24:26,048 --> 00:24:27,967
So it was like a whirlwind of everything,
you know?
442
00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:30,595
It's like when it rains, it pours.
That's exactly what happened.
443
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:34,640
And I said, "This is it, man. I'm dead."
444
00:24:34,724 --> 00:24:37,894
This is all because of
that fucking Robin Hood guy.
445
00:24:40,354 --> 00:24:43,441
He's a scum of the earth.
In prison, we call 'em "maggots."
446
00:24:43,524 --> 00:24:45,109
He's a fucking cockroach.
447
00:24:46,277 --> 00:24:47,403
So come hell or high water,
448
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:49,488
I'm going to get every cent
this guy owes me.
449
00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:53,993
O-Dog.
People don't know how he is as a human.
450
00:24:54,076 --> 00:24:56,078
But like I say,
he's a man of his word.
451
00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:59,165
You know, if he say he's going to do
something, he's going to do it.
452
00:24:59,248 --> 00:25:02,668
Motherfucker was really about--
about getting his money.
453
00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:05,838
I remember calling him up.
454
00:25:05,922 --> 00:25:07,840
I'm not cussing him out.
I'm just playing it cool.
455
00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:10,218
I say, "Hey, man.
There's $2,500,000 missing."
456
00:25:10,301 --> 00:25:13,846
"This money is owed, and you know
it's owed, so let's get me paid, man."
457
00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:15,139
He's like, "All right, all right."
458
00:25:15,223 --> 00:25:17,516
He gives me a couple of thousand here,
a couple thousand there.
459
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,227
Then all of a sudden, he went dark.
460
00:25:19,810 --> 00:25:23,522
As I'm thinking to myself, "What the fuck?
This guy's a whale."
461
00:25:23,606 --> 00:25:25,483
You know,
communication is key in this business.
462
00:25:25,566 --> 00:25:27,235
If you're communicating with me,
then that's cool.
463
00:25:27,318 --> 00:25:28,819
I'm cool. I work with people.
464
00:25:28,903 --> 00:25:32,240
But when you cross the line,
and you don't answer the phone,
465
00:25:33,074 --> 00:25:36,244
man, he'll be like, "Motherfucker,
we come coming to collect."
466
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,371
Because that's what I do.
467
00:25:38,454 --> 00:25:42,083
My collection ratio is like 90%,
which is unheard of in my business.
468
00:25:43,459 --> 00:25:46,170
You want to disappear now?
I got something for you.
469
00:25:47,046 --> 00:25:49,924
The problem is,
I don't know anything about this guy.
470
00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:54,011
So I get this business card
for this private investigator.
471
00:25:55,096 --> 00:25:56,514
He's the Hollywood PI.
472
00:25:56,597 --> 00:25:59,809
This guy was one of the best researchers,
investigators there are.
473
00:26:00,351 --> 00:26:04,313
He was capable of getting stuff
from the DEA, FBI, Homeland Security.
474
00:26:04,397 --> 00:26:06,315
His name's Danno Hanks.
475
00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:12,697
Come on in.
476
00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:22,039
Because I usually have no place
to put anything,
477
00:26:22,123 --> 00:26:24,166
most of it's on my walls.
478
00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:28,129
I've got stories from me being
in the news,
479
00:26:28,212 --> 00:26:32,091
gold and platinum records
from bands that I've worked with.
480
00:26:32,174 --> 00:26:34,635
I worked at the Playboy Mansion
for some time,
481
00:26:34,719 --> 00:26:37,388
and so I had a lot
of Playboy Playmate friends.
482
00:26:37,471 --> 00:26:41,225
50 year's worth of PI work,
and I never throw out a file.
483
00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:48,399
Yeah, I'm known as the Hollywood PI.
484
00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:51,235
I have no idea why.
485
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:55,072
Because most of my cases
don't even happen in Hollywood.
486
00:26:55,156 --> 00:26:56,991
I've been a screw up all my life.
487
00:26:57,074 --> 00:27:02,079
In and out of jail for all kinds of stuff.
But I worked for both the FBI and the DEA.
488
00:27:02,496 --> 00:27:05,207
I'm basically the guy
that put John Gotti away.
489
00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:07,918
I tracked down
Jeffrey Epstein's first victim,
490
00:27:08,002 --> 00:27:10,671
recorded Heidi Fleiss's phones.
491
00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:15,009
I went to testify for Prince Harry.
I sang on multiple albums.
492
00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:17,887
This is Starship.
That's Starship.
493
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:20,723
That's Starship, and that's Starship.
494
00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:22,308
What's your favorite Starship song?
495
00:27:22,391 --> 00:27:25,478
Oh... โช We built this city โช
496
00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:29,982
โช We built this city
On rock and roll โช
497
00:27:38,908 --> 00:27:40,409
So where were we?
498
00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:43,287
I just realized
where I put the Owen Hanson files.
499
00:27:43,871 --> 00:27:46,165
I believe they're on this one right here.
500
00:27:46,791 --> 00:27:51,045
Owen Hansen called me, and he said,
501
00:27:51,128 --> 00:27:54,298
"Do you do locates and background checks?"
502
00:27:54,382 --> 00:27:56,926
I was like,
"I got this guy, Robin Hood,"
503
00:27:57,009 --> 00:27:59,845
and I said,
"I need to know more information on him."
504
00:27:59,929 --> 00:28:04,100
He wanted me to do a deep dive
into Robin Hood 702,
505
00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:06,227
which was the area code for Las Vegas.
506
00:28:06,811 --> 00:28:09,563
Is that a "G" in there?
It's hard for me to see.
507
00:28:09,647 --> 00:28:12,441
He's got this secret database,
and it's an insane database.
508
00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:14,026
It's something I've never seen before.
509
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:17,363
There are multiple search engines
that you could use.
510
00:28:17,446 --> 00:28:21,367
He's got access
to FBI, CIA, DEA, you name it.
511
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:22,743
This guy's got it.
512
00:28:25,955 --> 00:28:28,082
There is a picture of him.
513
00:28:28,791 --> 00:28:30,334
He's not weird.
514
00:28:30,418 --> 00:28:33,045
And we find out his name is RJ Cipriani.
515
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:37,383
And Cipriani was living in a condo
516
00:28:37,466 --> 00:28:39,635
on the beach front in Los Angeles.
517
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:42,471
He's living on Ocean Boulevard.
That's prime real estate.
518
00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:46,142
I don't want to have to put hands
on him, be aggressive in any sort of way,
519
00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:48,060
but I want to scare
the living shit out of him.
520
00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:53,315
I had sent a pizza delivery guy.
521
00:28:53,399 --> 00:28:55,651
And tell him, "Hey, when you knock
and deliver the pizza,
522
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:57,445
let him know this is from Junior."
523
00:28:58,362 --> 00:29:00,072
You know, that was the first step.
524
00:29:00,156 --> 00:29:04,201
Robin Hood said that a bouquet
of flowers was sent to his wife.
525
00:29:04,285 --> 00:29:07,204
Saying, "Best of luck
with all your endeavors."
526
00:29:08,622 --> 00:29:11,417
This is a sign to say
we can get you if we want to.
527
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,128
Little things,
so he knew that we knew where he was.
528
00:29:15,004 --> 00:29:17,506
He finally called me.
He says, "Hey, you can't be doing that."
529
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:19,592
I said,
"Listen, just pay me my fucking money."
530
00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:21,927
"You got to get me that money."
531
00:29:22,011 --> 00:29:24,513
But Robin Hood,
he wasn't in the mindset that,
532
00:29:24,597 --> 00:29:27,057
"Oh, I better try and find $2,500,000."
533
00:29:27,141 --> 00:29:29,852
It was Owen's money that was lost.
Tough shit.
534
00:29:31,187 --> 00:29:34,398
Yeah, sometimes you get
a degenerate that doesn't want to pay you.
535
00:29:34,482 --> 00:29:36,484
But I know how to deal
with these kind of guys.
536
00:29:37,193 --> 00:29:39,069
One time, I remember
there was this cat.
537
00:29:39,153 --> 00:29:40,613
You know, he just called O-Dog.
538
00:29:40,696 --> 00:29:43,157
This guy was like, "Motherfucker,
you know who the fuck I am?"
539
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,367
"Motherfucker, I got balls from here
to the motherfucking floor."
540
00:29:45,451 --> 00:29:47,620
Man, you know O-Dog don't play.
O-Dog said, "Wait, wait, wait."
541
00:29:47,703 --> 00:29:50,414
He said, "Yeah? Well, yeah, okay.
Look who's walking through your front."
542
00:29:50,498 --> 00:29:52,875
And I walk in, just seeing
that nigga's nuts went...
543
00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:54,043
Yeah, little bitch.
544
00:29:54,585 --> 00:29:58,005
You got guys like your boy Kobra,
the best collector in the business.
545
00:29:58,964 --> 00:30:01,425
But this Robin Hood,
he's a little squirrely.
546
00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:02,635
Maybe I got to be careful.
547
00:30:02,718 --> 00:30:06,597
Kobra might scare the living shit
out of him, and he goes to the police.
548
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,683
He said, "Do you have a buddy
that can do some surveillance for me?"
549
00:30:09,767 --> 00:30:12,645
-And I said, "Yeah."
-He says, "I got this collector, Animal."
550
00:30:12,728 --> 00:30:16,398
-"He's big, and he's cheap."
-Yeah. Animal.
551
00:30:18,275 --> 00:30:20,194
They need a door broken down?
I'm the guy.
552
00:30:20,277 --> 00:30:22,321
They need anything
where it takes a little bit of muscle?
553
00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:24,907
They call me.
We do what it takes to get it done.
554
00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:28,536
A production company
that was doing reality shows came to me,
555
00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:31,372
and they wanted me to get people
that I knew that were in the business.
556
00:30:33,332 --> 00:30:35,834
And Jack Rissell had worked
as a bounty hunter.
557
00:30:35,918 --> 00:30:38,712
There's nothing more I love than getting
physical a minute with this.
558
00:30:39,421 --> 00:30:43,717
Jack is just one
of those big human beings that...
559
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,805
I don't know that he ever lifted
a weight in his life,
560
00:30:47,888 --> 00:30:51,100
but he'd snap your fucking ass in two.
561
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:55,020
You knew that Jack was somebody
not to fuck with, ever.
562
00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:00,568
He parked in front of Robin Hood's condo,
563
00:31:00,651 --> 00:31:02,861
right there on Ocean Boulevard,
and he just sat there.
564
00:31:04,154 --> 00:31:06,323
And he's in this big fucking molester van.
565
00:31:07,783 --> 00:31:09,952
He's giving the sense
that we're watching you.
566
00:31:10,035 --> 00:31:11,370
We can get to you.
567
00:31:13,956 --> 00:31:15,207
He's calling me,
and he's texting me saying,
568
00:31:15,291 --> 00:31:17,543
"Hey, this guy
keeps looking out his blinds."
569
00:31:17,626 --> 00:31:19,628
I said, "Good, Just stay right there."
570
00:31:20,337 --> 00:31:22,506
Because this shit ain't going away
until it's paid.
571
00:31:23,674 --> 00:31:25,801
And Cipriani was no angel.
572
00:31:27,011 --> 00:31:29,346
C-I-P-R-I...
573
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:31,682
I started realizing he was full of shit.
574
00:31:31,765 --> 00:31:33,726
See, it'll take a few minutes to...
575
00:31:33,809 --> 00:31:36,353
We find out on Robin Hood,
that he doesn't have a job.
576
00:31:36,437 --> 00:31:38,939
And this guy ain't no multi-millionaire.
577
00:31:39,023 --> 00:31:42,401
This high roller,
this so-called "whale," was a fugazi.
578
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:44,653
This guy's nobody.
579
00:31:44,737 --> 00:31:46,655
The people that are watching this
are gonna have to
580
00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,490
make their own conclusions.
581
00:31:48,574 --> 00:31:53,162
And when the people watch Danno Hanks,
and they watch me,
582
00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:55,539
they'll know what a fugazi is.
583
00:31:55,623 --> 00:31:56,874
He leeches off of people,
584
00:31:56,957 --> 00:31:59,627
and the only way to get rid
of a leech is to burn 'em.
585
00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:03,422
Jack Rissell called me,
and he says, "Hey, good news."
586
00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:06,216
He goes, "I'm following him right now
in his Prius."
587
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:08,886
"He's driving a Prius?"
He goes, "He's driving a Prius."
588
00:32:11,722 --> 00:32:13,891
I said, "Fucking stay on his ass, man."
589
00:32:14,308 --> 00:32:16,977
He's acting like
he's fucking running, ain't he?
590
00:32:19,313 --> 00:32:21,357
Clear as day,
I remember Owen saying,
591
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,026
"I'm going to go question
this fucking guy myself."
592
00:32:24,109 --> 00:32:26,445
Like, it was personal at that point.
593
00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:32,868
Jack says, "Hey, boss,
we've got a problem."
594
00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:33,869
I said, "What's that?"
595
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:35,204
Right into the police station.
596
00:32:37,748 --> 00:32:40,000
Okay, this guy, he's freaking out.
597
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:42,795
I said to myself, "I haven't even begun."
598
00:32:44,713 --> 00:32:48,133
Owen's mindset had been,
he's playing chess, right?
599
00:32:48,217 --> 00:32:49,093
And that's just it.
600
00:32:49,176 --> 00:32:53,055
Like, there's so many other avenues
that you can use
601
00:32:53,138 --> 00:32:55,015
that are psychological.
602
00:32:58,060 --> 00:33:01,980
I lived a great life, amazing life.
I've done amazing things.
603
00:33:02,439 --> 00:33:04,775
And the greatest thing I ever did
in my life,
604
00:33:04,858 --> 00:33:08,529
the greatest of
all the greatest things I've ever done,
605
00:33:08,612 --> 00:33:10,030
was taking care of my mom.
606
00:33:11,907 --> 00:33:13,992
Without her, you won't have life.
607
00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:16,829
Don't ever forget that.
608
00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:18,997
Don't ever forget
when your mother looks at you.
609
00:33:19,623 --> 00:33:23,335
You'll never feel that from anyone else
but your mother.
610
00:33:23,877 --> 00:33:24,795
Period.
611
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,257
She's watching over me.
612
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:33,762
Well, we can get into that real quick.
613
00:33:34,388 --> 00:33:37,933
I found an obituary for Cipriani's mom.
614
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,645
And this obituary really made it clear
615
00:33:41,729 --> 00:33:45,149
that this was Cipriani's breaking point.
616
00:33:45,858 --> 00:33:49,903
When my mother passed,
I put billboards up on I-95.
617
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:55,284
"Regina."
Real big. Great stuff.
618
00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:57,327
He would do anything for his mother.
619
00:33:57,828 --> 00:33:59,830
So I knew right there,
I said, "That's a soft spot."
620
00:34:00,873 --> 00:34:02,166
I said, "Okay, Danno,
621
00:34:02,249 --> 00:34:04,418
I need you to drive to Pennsylvania..."
622
00:34:04,501 --> 00:34:07,921
"...go to his mother's grave,
take the tombstone,
623
00:34:10,299 --> 00:34:14,094
and bring it back to me.
I will have that tombstone as collateral."
624
00:34:14,178 --> 00:34:16,013
"And that's how I'm gonna
get my money back."
625
00:34:16,638 --> 00:34:18,014
Genius.
626
00:34:18,098 --> 00:34:20,516
No, he never asked me
to take the tombstone.
627
00:34:20,934 --> 00:34:25,898
Which I wouldn't have done.
It would not be something I would do.
628
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,817
He just said,
"Go out there and get me a picture."
629
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,527
When he gets there,
630
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:33,572
he says, "This tombstone's six feet,
500 pounds."
631
00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:37,117
He goes, "There's no way in hell I'm gonna
be able to dig this thing up."
632
00:34:37,201 --> 00:34:39,620
Sucker's about 20 feet high.
633
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:42,915
And that's when I decided
to resort to plan B.
634
00:34:42,998 --> 00:34:47,085
Hanson says to me, "I need you to go
splash some red paint on the tombstone."
635
00:34:47,168 --> 00:34:50,755
I said, "Nah, I don't think so," you know.
636
00:34:50,839 --> 00:34:53,634
He says, "I'll give you
another $2,500 if you do it."
637
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,886
Short of cash.
638
00:34:57,221 --> 00:35:02,434
So I google, "What's the Pennsylvania law
against defacing a tombstone?"
639
00:35:02,518 --> 00:35:06,522
It says, you know,
"desecrating a grave," blah, blah.
640
00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:08,315
"Pennsylvania statutes."
641
00:35:08,398 --> 00:35:10,192
It's a $200 fine.
642
00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:12,611
If I get busted for doing this,
643
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:15,697
that's all I'm facing is $200.
644
00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:23,038
I've never had any religious feelings
about visiting a grave.
645
00:35:23,997 --> 00:35:28,377
It was like, "Oh, big deal."
I have no idea where I'm going to end up.
646
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:30,379
Yeah, throw me in the dumpster.
647
00:35:33,257 --> 00:35:35,217
I'm throwing
some paint on a piece of wood.
648
00:35:37,094 --> 00:35:38,470
Splash the paint on there.
649
00:35:40,097 --> 00:35:41,890
I take the now famous picture.
650
00:35:42,891 --> 00:35:46,645
Texted it to him.
He says, "Can you do Photoshop?"
651
00:35:46,728 --> 00:35:49,064
"Can you put me in the picture?"
652
00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:52,401
I said, "Ah, we'd have to have
a similar background."
653
00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:58,740
And he goes, "Meet me over in that field
behind the La Brea Tar Pits."
654
00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:03,453
He gets out, goes to the trunk of his car,
takes out a shovel.
655
00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:06,373
Puts on a mask.
656
00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:10,002
I just said, "Okay, the guy's weird."
657
00:36:11,378 --> 00:36:13,797
I am in the La Brea Tar Pits,
658
00:36:13,881 --> 00:36:16,466
and I'm like, "Fuck, man,
there's all these people."
659
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:18,176
And I'm like out there
with a fucking shovel.
660
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:20,178
I'm like, "Oh, my God, what am I doing?"
661
00:36:20,262 --> 00:36:22,931
He's taking these pictures,
and like, "Fuck, man, hurry up."
662
00:36:23,015 --> 00:36:24,850
I look like I'm about to rob a bank.
663
00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:27,352
And he's like, "Don't worry,
just say it's for Halloween."
664
00:36:29,438 --> 00:36:32,941
And I'm like, "Holy shit,
this is gonna haunt me."
665
00:36:35,485 --> 00:36:40,949
Dan was pretty...
pretty computer savvy, at the time.
666
00:36:41,033 --> 00:36:42,743
Like, he had this shit down.
667
00:36:42,826 --> 00:36:48,165
You know, if you use the lasso
so you can go around,
668
00:36:48,248 --> 00:36:51,710
you know, somebody
and get their whole picture.
669
00:36:51,793 --> 00:36:55,422
So I must have gone up
between his legs and...
670
00:36:57,174 --> 00:37:01,345
It was basic, you know.
Photoshop 5.5, you know.
671
00:37:02,429 --> 00:37:04,473
Control X.
672
00:37:06,767 --> 00:37:11,980
Edit, paste, reduce his picture
till I got it where it matched up.
673
00:37:12,064 --> 00:37:13,649
It wasn't rocket science.
674
00:37:14,316 --> 00:37:16,526
I mean, it looked so fucking real.
675
00:37:18,070 --> 00:37:20,948
It would be fucking scary as fuck
to somebody.
676
00:37:23,492 --> 00:37:28,038
I think for RJ that was the point
where he goes, "No, too much."
677
00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:30,958
You don't fuck with my family in that way.
678
00:37:31,041 --> 00:37:32,709
She was my everything.
679
00:37:33,794 --> 00:37:34,836
And...
680
00:37:37,631 --> 00:37:39,424
he desecrated her grave.
681
00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:45,889
I remember he called me, he goes,
"How dare you fuck with my mother?"
682
00:37:45,973 --> 00:37:48,350
I told him,
"Hey, man, this ain't even my money."
683
00:37:48,433 --> 00:37:52,562
I said, "There's other people involved,
and it's not just me."
684
00:37:53,855 --> 00:37:55,273
"It's the cartel's money."
685
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:58,402
He was scared.
686
00:38:00,654 --> 00:38:04,408
I don't give a fuck who you are,
where you come from.
687
00:38:04,491 --> 00:38:07,911
If you're from the cartel,
if you're from wherever.
688
00:38:07,995 --> 00:38:12,624
If you got guns pointed at me,
I have no fear of dying.
689
00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:16,378
None. Do you think I'm gonna
worry about the cartel?
690
00:38:17,421 --> 00:38:18,380
Come on.
691
00:38:18,463 --> 00:38:20,007
What are they gonna do to me
if they find me?
692
00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:21,091
Come on, stop it.
693
00:38:21,174 --> 00:38:24,136
You went way overboard
with some of this s***. Okay?
694
00:38:24,219 --> 00:38:27,472
Listen, listen, listen...
Not way overboard.
695
00:38:27,556 --> 00:38:30,434
People get killed over $20,000.
Don't tell me this is way overboard.
696
00:38:30,517 --> 00:38:32,310
It's a lot of f****** money.
697
00:38:32,394 --> 00:38:34,021
Do you think this is just gonna disappear?
698
00:38:34,104 --> 00:38:35,105
Everything's gonna be okay?
699
00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:37,107
No, it doesn't work like that.
700
00:38:38,692 --> 00:38:42,320
I am tenacious.
701
00:38:42,404 --> 00:38:43,739
I won't fucking stop.
702
00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:47,534
If you fuck with, I'm coming for you.
703
00:38:47,617 --> 00:38:51,079
If it takes me a year, two years,
ten years, it doesn't matter.
704
00:38:51,163 --> 00:38:54,166
I'm not going to forget,
and I'm going to get...
705
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,503
my piece of your heart.
706
00:38:59,796 --> 00:39:03,133
That's it.
But other than that, I'm a nice guy.
60703
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