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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,710 --> 00:00:07,070 Hello, everyone. Today is March 7th, and this is the first session of March 2 00:00:07,070 --> 00:00:12,910 Special Series that we have with Linda Bradford -Rashke. And we called it Her 3 00:00:12,910 --> 00:00:13,910 Traits, Her Story. 4 00:00:14,330 --> 00:00:19,230 We're going to talk a lot about the book that's coming out from Linda. I just 5 00:00:19,230 --> 00:00:23,210 want to go through some of the administrative questions that you might 6 00:00:23,330 --> 00:00:28,690 We're going to have three sessions on March 7th, 14th, and 21st. All of the 7 00:00:28,690 --> 00:00:31,410 sessions are going to be conducted from 3 to 5 p .m. 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,640 Pacific time. 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,940 We're going to have a switch here in the U .S., so for those of you who are 10 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:43,020 international students, we'll let you know in the next message that we're 11 00:00:43,020 --> 00:00:46,600 to have the switch to the daylight time. 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,900 And another administrative note is that all of the sessions are being recorded, 13 00:00:54,060 --> 00:00:55,060 so don't worry. 14 00:00:55,300 --> 00:00:58,000 Nothing will be wasted as the material. 15 00:00:58,730 --> 00:01:02,850 And you will receive an email with login instructions after this first session, 16 00:01:02,910 --> 00:01:08,070 probably by 9 p .m. Pacific today, depending on how quickly the video could 17 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:10,810 encoded and uploaded to the website. 18 00:01:12,310 --> 00:01:15,390 I would like to welcome Linda. Linda, hello. How are you doing? 19 00:01:16,290 --> 00:01:18,950 I'm doing fine. Thank you, Roman. Thank you for having me on. 20 00:01:19,530 --> 00:01:22,310 Well, I want to start with an introduction. 21 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:26,350 And usually, you know, here I would be reading. 22 00:01:27,290 --> 00:01:31,150 the buyer and I want to do this in a slightly different way. 23 00:01:31,430 --> 00:01:38,050 I want to tell a small short story, a personal story of how I met Linda. I 24 00:01:38,050 --> 00:01:44,510 believe that the first time that I met Linda I was I don't remember the city 25 00:01:44,510 --> 00:01:47,950 where it was but I remember that it was after a conference. 26 00:01:48,270 --> 00:01:53,730 So after is an organization that is comprised of 27 00:01:53,730 --> 00:02:00,520 probably the best minds of technical analysis here in the US and 28 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,520 maybe even outside of the US. 29 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,860 And these are the people that use technical analysis professionally. 30 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,840 There are specific requirements for being a member of this society. 31 00:02:13,060 --> 00:02:16,040 I believe it's seven years in the professional field. 32 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,800 You have to have specific contributions. 33 00:02:19,910 --> 00:02:24,150 People there are definitely extremely smart and knowledgeable about technical 34 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:26,990 analysis. And I met Linda at the conference. 35 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:34,510 We had a talk. One of the things that I was so at awe and 36 00:02:34,510 --> 00:02:40,130 impressed right away is that we started talking about trading, and 37 00:02:40,130 --> 00:02:46,090 Linda was communicating to me some of her results. 38 00:02:46,530 --> 00:02:49,390 And at that point of time, Linda has... 39 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:51,720 logged in 32 years of trading. 40 00:02:51,940 --> 00:02:58,080 And this is not just trading for her personal account, but managing the 41 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:03,440 So managing someone else's money, exposing herself to this constant 42 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,580 accountability to deliver and produce the results. 43 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:14,880 And out of 32 years, Linda has been profitable for 31, which is 44 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,880 unbelievable. 45 00:03:16,540 --> 00:03:22,500 And then as we were preparing for this session, you know, years later, you 46 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:28,420 the news stat that I have from LIDA is that out of 39 years, LIDA has been 47 00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:29,600 profitable for 37. 48 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,100 So I would say that this is almost like a miracle. 49 00:03:35,660 --> 00:03:41,140 It's definitely an extreme outlier in our field, especially with... 50 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:47,880 big accounts where you're managing a lot of money to be that consistent 51 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:54,340 and to sustain that consistency for so many years, almost for 52 00:03:54,340 --> 00:03:56,780 decades. That's unprecedented. 53 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:03,320 So therefore, as I was telling you in other classes about 54 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,930 this upcoming event, I wanted you to come and listen to the 55 00:04:09,930 --> 00:04:13,670 mindset that Linda has developed throughout this year. 56 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:20,930 And also, obviously, we want to understand how Linda functions on a 57 00:04:21,070 --> 00:04:26,470 weekly basis. So there will be a lot of talk about a process. 58 00:04:26,830 --> 00:04:33,650 And then Linda is going to talk about also how she is using her system, 59 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:35,930 how she understands technical analysis. 60 00:04:37,820 --> 00:04:43,340 There are so many questions that we might have for Linda because Linda is an 61 00:04:43,340 --> 00:04:47,760 expert in technical analysis on a very practical basis. 62 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,900 And this is what I hear from her, and this is what I see from the material 63 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:54,899 she's going to present. 64 00:04:54,900 --> 00:05:01,360 And when you become an expert at this point, there are some ideas that you're 65 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,120 challenging that were common. 66 00:05:06,700 --> 00:05:09,160 and maybe are still common as a belief. 67 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,560 And that's how I felt in my preparation with Linda, you know, in my 68 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,900 conversations, that some of the common beliefs that we have about trading the 69 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:23,340 markets or how we should approach those, those could be challenged by Linda. So 70 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:26,960 we really need to pay attention to that. 71 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:34,080 Also, I want to say that I started reading the book. 72 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:41,340 Trading Sardines, and it's a very easy read and very, in 73 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:43,980 a lot of spots, very funny. 74 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:51,400 And it has so many insights based on the experience by Linda as to, you know, 75 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:58,360 how she met specific people, how she, you know, certain situations. And I 76 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,220 definitely highly recommend. 77 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:07,120 go to her website, lindarashki .net, find the book, order it. I believe 78 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,020 it's under $40. 79 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:14,880 And look at all of these people, and I haven't put even all of them, but every 80 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:21,320 name has such a big story and just a big name behind it. 81 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:26,040 Obviously, we know Linda from Market Streets by Jack Schrager. 82 00:06:28,110 --> 00:06:32,510 In 2013, I was the conference director of the EFTA conference. 83 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:36,510 That's the International Federation of Technical Analysts. We had the 84 00:06:36,510 --> 00:06:38,930 in San Francisco. Linda was a presenter there. 85 00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:45,350 And a part of the panel on market widgets where Jack Schrager was also 86 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:51,870 And Jack Schrager was conducting the interviews with Linda and Ed Secorder. 87 00:06:52,130 --> 00:06:54,590 And I don't even remember who else we had. 88 00:06:56,060 --> 00:06:57,060 a lot of funds. 89 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:02,740 And that's how we know Linda. That's how Linda came to the public and became 90 00:07:02,740 --> 00:07:08,980 known so well. So definitely would recommend the book. 91 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:13,220 And Linda's going to say a couple of words about this. 92 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,840 And the last slide that I have is just, let's just quickly go through all of the 93 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,840 sessions. 94 00:07:20,910 --> 00:07:24,970 This is what I received from Linda. So the first session is going to be devoted 95 00:07:24,970 --> 00:07:27,190 to the philosophy of technical analysis. 96 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:32,790 I'm looking forward to hear some, you know, interesting thoughts and nuggets 97 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:39,390 that price behavior. And we absolutely study that from the not just price, but 98 00:07:39,390 --> 00:07:42,470 also how effort volume influences that behavior. 99 00:07:43,390 --> 00:07:47,570 how to quantify market structures and summary of some of the models Lynn is 100 00:07:47,570 --> 00:07:51,290 going to show us today. Session number two, trading strategies and patterns for 101 00:07:51,290 --> 00:07:52,290 stocks and futures. 102 00:07:52,370 --> 00:07:54,810 Short -term and daily timeframes will be discussed. 103 00:07:55,190 --> 00:07:57,190 Number three, very important. 104 00:07:59,530 --> 00:08:02,730 A session that's going to be devoted on the process. 105 00:08:03,070 --> 00:08:07,750 How do we prepare ourselves, or rather how Linda prepares herself for trading 106 00:08:07,750 --> 00:08:13,350 and what can we learn from that? How to avoid traps laid by cognitive biases. 107 00:08:13,870 --> 00:08:20,810 That is something that is so important for us because we're constantly being 108 00:08:20,810 --> 00:08:22,810 bombarded unconsciously. 109 00:08:24,380 --> 00:08:29,200 you know, from inside to behave in a certain way. So I'm really curious to 110 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,380 how Linda, you know, tackles that problem. 111 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,659 The importance of the proper context, you know, with Wyckoff method, obviously 112 00:08:36,659 --> 00:08:40,419 each session is devoted to defining the context. 113 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:44,640 So that's going to be also very interesting. And then the last one is 114 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,340 recognize quickly whether short -term strategies are working or not. 115 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,180 In the disclaimer, obviously, all of these three sessions, everything that 116 00:08:53,180 --> 00:08:56,960 either I or Linda says here is only for educational purposes. 117 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:04,700 Linda, with that, welcome to my special thank you so much for being here. We 118 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:09,420 are all looking for your presentations, and I'm going to switch the screen to 119 00:09:09,420 --> 00:09:10,420 you. 120 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,220 Thank you, Robin. Let me know when people can see my screen. 121 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,900 Show my screen. 122 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,620 There we go. Is everything good? 123 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,440 Okay. 124 00:09:23,060 --> 00:09:25,200 Thank you guys for attending today. 125 00:09:25,420 --> 00:09:29,780 And I know it was quite a busy day in the markets, so I'm looking forward to 126 00:09:29,780 --> 00:09:30,780 having some fun. 127 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,680 I thought that what we would do today is, first of all, I... 128 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:40,140 I really would like to lay the foundation as to how I see the market 129 00:09:40,140 --> 00:09:44,380 as well as how I use technical analysis. 130 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,300 And then a lot of the models that I've built, I think you'll be surprised at 131 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:54,200 simplicity of most of them, and hopefully many of you will be familiar 132 00:09:54,200 --> 00:10:01,200 basic concept behind the simple swing charts, which is really my preferred 133 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,380 of analysis. 134 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,280 I'm going to show you a smattering of models that I've developed over the 135 00:10:09,540 --> 00:10:15,640 All of these are very durable and robust, meaning that even if I developed 136 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,320 30 years ago, the results still hold true today. 137 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:26,580 And that's difficult to do if you start putting in too many parameters and curve 138 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:27,580 -fitting things. 139 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,040 It won't hold up in the future. 140 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:36,880 My models are basically using no more than two variables and perhaps one 141 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:42,320 and then I feel very confident that that type of price behavior will hold true 142 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,400 in the future. Now, the downside is, of course, it's not a trading system, but 143 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,760 it will teach us a lot of things about price behavior, and I'm going to go 144 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,280 through each of these models and discuss what it taught me about price behavior 145 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,640 along the way. 146 00:11:00,350 --> 00:11:05,250 So with that, let's see here if I can scroll these little slides. 147 00:11:08,510 --> 00:11:14,530 Okay, very simply, with technical analysis, I'm just simply trying to 148 00:11:14,530 --> 00:11:16,290 the most immediate trend. 149 00:11:16,730 --> 00:11:21,390 It doesn't matter to me if a trend is on a five -minute chart or a weekly chart. 150 00:11:21,670 --> 00:11:25,410 A trend is really pertinent to the time frame that you're on. 151 00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:32,560 So, for example, you could be looking at a 30 -minute uptrend within the context 152 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:39,280 of a daily downtrend. And as you all know by now, I'm sure that trends are 153 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,060 simply higher lows and higher highs. 154 00:11:43,090 --> 00:11:45,110 That's my definition of a trend. 155 00:11:45,370 --> 00:11:49,550 It has nothing to do with moving averages or anything like that. It's the 156 00:11:49,550 --> 00:11:53,470 pattern in the swing. So you could have a pattern of higher highs and higher 157 00:11:53,470 --> 00:11:59,890 lows on an hourly chart within the context of a downtrend on the dailies. 158 00:11:59,890 --> 00:12:00,890 when I trade... 159 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,240 I think the most important thing is to be conscious of the trend that you are 160 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,640 trading. So there's nothing wrong with trading an hourly uptrend within the 161 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:16,200 context of, say, for example, a daily or a weekly downtrend. And that's where 162 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,980 you have to be really clear about exactly what market you're trading and 163 00:12:20,980 --> 00:12:22,100 time frame you're trading. 164 00:12:22,340 --> 00:12:25,920 So in addition to capturing the most immediate... 165 00:12:26,250 --> 00:12:28,830 which is simply the supply, demand, and balance. 166 00:12:29,130 --> 00:12:33,370 I also like to identify the turning points at the ends of swings. 167 00:12:34,230 --> 00:12:36,490 That's where you have your best risk -reward. 168 00:12:36,930 --> 00:12:43,710 And we'll look at a lot of those patterns in the second session, how we 169 00:12:43,710 --> 00:12:47,670 those turning points, at least the things that I look for. 170 00:12:48,390 --> 00:12:51,310 I am a big believer that I cannot. 171 00:12:51,850 --> 00:12:55,790 predict how high a market's going to go or how low it's going to go. 172 00:12:56,510 --> 00:13:00,930 I don't know when it will get there. See, it'll get you ill if you won't get 173 00:13:00,930 --> 00:13:03,130 there, but when it will get there. 174 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:07,990 And even today, the markets never cease to surprise me. 175 00:13:08,430 --> 00:13:12,750 Things always go further than you think they will to the upside, and they go 176 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:15,470 further than you think they will to the downside. 177 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,780 think there's any statistically significant way to predict where a 178 00:13:26,780 --> 00:13:31,780 going to go. We can only predict the most immediate trend that's intact, and 179 00:13:31,780 --> 00:13:37,420 we start to get signs that we're getting a loss of momentum or a price 180 00:13:37,420 --> 00:13:44,260 rejection. I am a trader, not an investor, so I really like to position 181 00:13:44,260 --> 00:13:45,260 myself. 182 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:51,300 in a manner where perhaps you have the chance of getting a greater than normal 183 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:56,860 win. And we're going to look at these patterns in the second session as well. 184 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,500 Where are the patterns so that we can position ourselves where there's an 185 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,600 opportunity to trail a stop? 186 00:14:04,110 --> 00:14:07,670 So in other words, a simple bull flag or bear flag, you're not going to 187 00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:08,990 necessarily trail a stop. 188 00:14:09,270 --> 00:14:12,930 You're just going to play for a swing up or swing down. 189 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:20,110 Whereas, say, for example, you have a breakout from a prolonged chart 190 00:14:20,170 --> 00:14:26,330 that would be a case where you have potentially a room for a bigger win. So 191 00:14:26,330 --> 00:14:29,830 we'll look at the difference between market structure. 192 00:14:30,540 --> 00:14:35,740 capturing a fat tail versus just playing for a sure but small profit. 193 00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:40,420 And that's the bottom line. If there's a dollar lying on the sidewalk, certainly 194 00:14:40,420 --> 00:14:43,400 you're going to pick it up. Those could just be little scalp trades. 195 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,720 But we do want to be aware of positioning ourselves in the direction 196 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,060 could get a fat tail. That's not necessarily the case for investing. 197 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,980 Investing, perhaps you want sure or steadier gains. 198 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Goodness gracious. 199 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,820 What was that stock today? 200 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,440 BPHT, a biotech stock. 201 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,680 Okay, that's the type of company where you might get a fat tail in your favor. 202 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:17,600 But lots of times the goals of an investor obviously are much different 203 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,600 goals of a trader. 204 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:24,480 I always try to model anything I can to create a structure. 205 00:15:24,820 --> 00:15:26,880 I don't trade with systems. 206 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,420 I have yet to find a system that I would trade with if I had developed one that 207 00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:36,120 I believed in that worked for all these years. 208 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,620 But the point of modeling is you must have some type of structure, because 209 00:15:41,620 --> 00:15:46,060 tell you, I'm the first to say that I've got numerous cognitive biases. 210 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:51,080 Everything affects me, whether I want to admit it or not. It's difficult for me 211 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,980 to get it out of my head. 212 00:15:53,290 --> 00:15:58,350 And so I remember once talking with Ned Davis. He gave a lecture, and he said, 213 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,460 For traders, it's very important to have some type of objective indicator. 214 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:10,460 That objective indicator could be something like a higher or a low or a 215 00:16:10,460 --> 00:16:17,280 pivot or perhaps an oscillator reading, something that's concrete that's black 216 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,940 and white that you can't argue with. 217 00:16:19,220 --> 00:16:24,940 Obviously, chart formations have a lot of gray area in them, so it's very 218 00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:26,080 difficult to – 219 00:16:27,150 --> 00:16:31,550 You know, a lot of people get cognitive biases when they look at chart 220 00:16:31,550 --> 00:16:35,330 formations. You know, sometimes you can kind of see what you want to see a 221 00:16:35,330 --> 00:16:40,070 little bit, even though experienced technicians know you can draw trend 222 00:16:40,070 --> 00:16:44,010 and say, well, the odds are it's going to be head and shoulders or whatever the 223 00:16:44,010 --> 00:16:44,989 case may be. 224 00:16:44,990 --> 00:16:51,190 But it's still important for me to try to have a modeling process that I can 225 00:16:51,190 --> 00:16:52,190 quantify. 226 00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:56,940 And then around those, you'll see, we'll go through some examples, how your 227 00:16:56,940 --> 00:17:02,620 models can change with each new piece of market information, and that allows a 228 00:17:02,620 --> 00:17:03,620 lot of flexibility. 229 00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:09,359 An obvious example would be if you had a breakout from a chart formation, but 230 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,700 then it came back in to the chart formation, you could say perhaps that 231 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:18,619 Wyckoff spring or upthrust. But at the time, the very first bar, it might have 232 00:17:18,619 --> 00:17:19,940 looked like a breakout. 233 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:25,720 So we have to allow the flexibility to change our models or adapt with each new 234 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,119 data point that the market gives us. 235 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:32,840 So like I said, I'm really looking forward to laying this foundation for 236 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:38,520 because then I'll be able to present more concrete tradable patterns and 237 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,260 have some fun in the second session. 238 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:43,780 Just quickly, theories of price behavior. 239 00:17:44,020 --> 00:17:47,920 That is what I love to study and it's actually... 240 00:17:48,380 --> 00:17:53,960 not a complicated thing because you're just looking at supply and demand 241 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:59,880 equations. But there are some conceptual things, for example, auction theory, 242 00:18:00,060 --> 00:18:01,980 the process of price discovery. 243 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:07,400 I think that in the last ten years there's been a much greater awareness of 244 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,340 market profile types of concepts. 245 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,820 And this is actually the auction theory, the process by which you're trying to 246 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:20,460 arrive at that equilibrium level where the supply and the demand can balance 247 00:18:20,460 --> 00:18:21,460 out. 248 00:18:21,820 --> 00:18:26,280 Another theory, the theory of efficient markets, I don't think any of us accept 249 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,920 that theory, that they fully reflect all available information at all times, and 250 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,240 that's probably because you've got a bunch of humans and algos and things 251 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:41,620 cause little distortions and biases and crowd behavior and things that might 252 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:44,860 take away from the efficiency of the market. 253 00:18:45,470 --> 00:18:51,230 The theory of reflexivity was made popular by Soros, George Soros, and 254 00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:56,570 essentially that a market is going to overshoot from one extreme to another 255 00:18:56,570 --> 00:19:01,270 extreme, perhaps going from extreme bearish sentiment to extreme bullish 256 00:19:01,270 --> 00:19:07,810 sentiment or overshooting in terms of a parabolic rise where price way exceeds 257 00:19:07,810 --> 00:19:10,370 what would be a natural equilibrium point. 258 00:19:10,590 --> 00:19:14,170 And that's often where we get these positive feedback loops. 259 00:19:14,780 --> 00:19:21,280 such as short squeezes or long liquidation flushes. So that's just 260 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,300 of defining some of the aspects of price behavior. 261 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,640 Catastrophe theory is pretty interesting because it was the very first theory 262 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:35,800 that I came across. I mention it in the book in San Francisco's business 263 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,540 library. And it's different from chaos theory. 264 00:19:40,810 --> 00:19:46,330 Things are in a normal type of behavior and then you just hit this freak radical 265 00:19:46,330 --> 00:19:51,930 point and you jump to a new plane or there's a dislocation in the data. And 266 00:19:51,930 --> 00:19:53,830 see this all the time in the markets. 267 00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:58,550 It was never really accepted as a theory of price behavior because it didn't 268 00:19:58,550 --> 00:19:59,810 have any predictive value. 269 00:20:00,010 --> 00:20:05,270 But it does make a hats off to the fact that truly. 270 00:20:05,950 --> 00:20:10,170 This price behavior is not linear, even though we would like to pretend that it 271 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:12,570 is. It's not a linear system. 272 00:20:12,970 --> 00:20:16,810 And lastly, I just have to mention the black swans, the fat tails. 273 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,480 that it is not a normal bell -shaped curve, that the distribution much favors 274 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:29,960 the tails more than we would think so in our normal statistical models. And 275 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:35,460 that's what's difficult for us humans to see, is to accept the fact that risks 276 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:40,280 might be greater than we think they are, and likewise, of course, opportunities 277 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,660 could be greater than our models are telling us. 278 00:20:43,940 --> 00:20:45,400 So let's move on. 279 00:20:46,350 --> 00:20:47,450 Basic modeling. 280 00:20:47,850 --> 00:20:50,690 Modeling is nothing more than asking questions. 281 00:20:50,910 --> 00:20:56,450 And when I started off modeling the markets, all I did was a piece of paper 282 00:20:56,450 --> 00:21:02,270 a pencil and sit there and write down price and levels and 283 00:21:02,270 --> 00:21:07,350 fill out spreadsheets. And, you know, it could be. 284 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,380 Of course, we've got so much more sophisticated software available to us 285 00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:17,960 but it's really about asking questions. So anything you see during the day or 286 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,260 that crosses your mind, there's usually a way that we can model that. 287 00:21:22,810 --> 00:21:26,650 and we'll have some fun as I move forward and look at some of the things 288 00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:27,509 we've modeled. 289 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:33,290 And also with the modeling process, sometimes we think that there's a 290 00:21:33,290 --> 00:21:38,910 pattern that has a frequency of occurrence, but then when we start to 291 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:44,550 and we look at the times that it doesn't work, we can learn just as much from 292 00:21:44,550 --> 00:21:50,030 that as well for looking at where the situations don't work. Hang on one 293 00:21:57,770 --> 00:22:01,650 My dog was barking outside. I wish she had to shut him up there, so sorry about 294 00:22:01,650 --> 00:22:02,870 that. Okay. 295 00:22:03,970 --> 00:22:08,510 Yes, I know. I've got this yapping in the background. I'm like, I just had a 296 00:22:08,510 --> 00:22:12,710 busy trading day, and I'm trying to give a presentation, and I don't need a 297 00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:14,350 little yipping dog in the background. 298 00:22:14,970 --> 00:22:21,150 Okay. So let's just get on and think about some of these things that we can 299 00:22:21,150 --> 00:22:22,730 in terms of our modeling. 300 00:22:23,210 --> 00:22:24,250 Basic questions. 301 00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:29,070 What happens when price hits an extreme, meaning perhaps a five -standard 302 00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:30,070 deviation move? 303 00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:35,210 How far is something going to retrace after it's moved a particular distance 304 00:22:35,210 --> 00:22:39,530 away from a moving average? Or perhaps these are things that we can't model. 305 00:22:39,710 --> 00:22:43,770 Sometimes you can't model those things in the case of an outlier. Are there 306 00:22:43,770 --> 00:22:46,950 particular tendencies at a time of day? 307 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:50,650 We'll look at this as we move on, too, because definitely there are. 308 00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:53,940 And there's day of the week tendencies as well. 309 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:58,980 You know, all of you are very familiar with the seasonal tendencies, how a 310 00:22:58,980 --> 00:23:03,720 market acts before a holiday or around the first day of the month. 311 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,780 What happens if you've just had a very large standard deviation move? 312 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,380 Let's say the market makes a five standard deviation move. What would be 313 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:19,100 expected outcome after you've done that? And vice versa, what happens after the 314 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:23,820 market's had a sustained period of below normal volatility? 315 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:26,920 All of these things we can ask questions about. 316 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,580 And again, we're not trying to create a system. 317 00:23:31,050 --> 00:23:33,610 I don't use stops when I'm modeling. 318 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:37,450 So right there it tells you, please don't use it as a system. 319 00:23:38,590 --> 00:23:43,730 Pretty much when you do use stops, you will degrade the system or the model. 320 00:23:43,930 --> 00:23:46,850 So we're just looking for tendencies. 321 00:23:47,630 --> 00:23:53,210 And we're not concerned with the actual dollar P &L, but I just want to see the 322 00:23:53,210 --> 00:23:58,230 frequency of occurrence and whether it's something that can lead to a larger 323 00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:59,330 than expected win. 324 00:23:59,950 --> 00:24:06,190 So you can see just some basic, basic questions, and we'll try and keep it 325 00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:10,450 simple, just two or three variables, and then we've got something that will hold 326 00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:11,470 up over time. 327 00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:19,630 Just again, a system has a well -defined rule set with entries and exits and 328 00:24:19,630 --> 00:24:25,290 risk management. I know that you guys know all this, so I'm just going to 329 00:24:25,290 --> 00:24:26,290 through this. 330 00:24:27,690 --> 00:24:34,530 But I do want to mention this alternation of states, which is really 331 00:24:34,530 --> 00:24:40,510 problem in modeling, is that you have periods where the market is extremely 332 00:24:40,510 --> 00:24:46,630 efficient, such as a sustained trend, and then you have periods where the 333 00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:49,890 is very noisy and trading range. 334 00:24:50,290 --> 00:24:55,370 And what happens sometimes is when you try to develop a system or model things, 335 00:24:56,090 --> 00:25:01,770 All the data from these positive feedback states and these severe trends 336 00:25:01,770 --> 00:25:06,050 lumped in with the negative feedbacks, the trading ranges and stuff, and the 337 00:25:06,050 --> 00:25:09,150 results sort of cancel each other out a little bit. 338 00:25:09,450 --> 00:25:14,610 So you have to be aware about the actual environment that you are trying to 339 00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:15,610 model. 340 00:25:16,110 --> 00:25:20,690 See, so it's this linear thinking, you know, everybody would like to fit the 341 00:25:20,690 --> 00:25:27,430 market in a black box. We would like to take a model such as an Elliott wave 342 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:32,610 type of model with the swings and so forth and be able to categorize it in a 343 00:25:32,610 --> 00:25:33,610 formal structure. 344 00:25:33,630 --> 00:25:38,430 But we really can't do that. The markets just simply don't work that way. 345 00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:43,130 And it's probably a good thing that they don't as well. 346 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,040 Okay, we're going to just get back down to the hardcore structure now. 347 00:25:49,580 --> 00:25:55,280 I try to model things first as a departure point with wave structure. 348 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:02,160 And if any of you have read Art Merrill's book on filtered waves, he was 349 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,820 of a pioneer in terms of modeling these waves. 350 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,940 And he used a percentage function. 351 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:20,700 the intermediate term trend, the longer term trend, so forth, you can do the 352 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:22,240 same thing with the wave structure. 353 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,900 Art Merrill said, okay, if I do a filter and only look at the 10 % swings, or if 354 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:31,920 I look at the 5 % swings, it will allow a lot more swings in it. 355 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:37,580 Well, what I do is I use an ATR function, an average true range 356 00:26:38,030 --> 00:26:43,950 And this is essentially something that Wells Wilder wrote about almost 30 years 357 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:50,690 ago, and it's simply 2 .5 ATRs up from the 358 00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:57,490 highest close or 2 .5 ATRs down from the highest close, or 359 00:26:57,490 --> 00:26:58,490 lowest, excuse me. 360 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,320 ATR up from the low and ATR down from the high, and it will create a pattern 361 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,840 the waves, and we'll see what this looks like on the chart. 362 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,940 So this is nothing more than another way of defining swing charts, and 363 00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:20,580 from there we can define the patterns in the swings, and we can actually 364 00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:26,940 categorize them as to whether it leads to a small swing or a big swing 365 00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:27,940 possibility. 366 00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:35,070 So essentially, you know, I know there is somewhere there is a little pen that 367 00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:38,450 I'm supposed to be able to use here. Yes. 368 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:40,210 All right. 369 00:27:41,770 --> 00:27:45,470 Here's your trend, higher lows and higher highs. 370 00:27:45,810 --> 00:27:51,930 And now we have a case where we make a lower low and a lower high, but this 371 00:27:51,930 --> 00:27:54,390 not constitute a trend reversal. 372 00:27:55,020 --> 00:27:57,000 This is just a warning sign. 373 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,780 So this is a really important pattern here. It's a warning sign. 374 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,720 And same thing with this. When we take out that last swing low, it's not a 375 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,360 reversal, but it's a warning sign. 376 00:28:08,660 --> 00:28:14,740 Why? Because we could just be an ABC up like we did here. So this is still an 377 00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:20,880 overall uptrend because to create a downtrend, you have to have a lower high 378 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,660 and a lower low. 379 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,660 and then turned down from there. 380 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,760 So you see how that process is? Here we made a lower low and then turned down 381 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,080 from there. And this whole thing almost looks like a head and shoulders top type 382 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,100 of chart formation. 383 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:45,480 This is probably the most important formation in technical analysis, this 384 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,280 consolidation that either leads to a new leg up or it fails. 385 00:28:52,060 --> 00:28:57,880 All right? So this is so important. If you want to identify the maximum risk 386 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,840 -reward opportunities, they come right here. And part of the reason is is 387 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:10,160 because the process of doing these swings right here forms a line. 388 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,560 So you see that? And if you're familiar with this market profile concept of 389 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:21,580 having the high -volume nodes, where the maximum amount of trading took place, 390 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,460 what happens is when you pull up out of this structure, you're either going to 391 00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:32,880 make a new leg up or a new leg down because this process is making the 392 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,060 come into balance. 393 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:39,720 So a very cool thing there, just a very cool concept. And, of course, These 394 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:45,460 little flags along the way, these are excellent points for playing for a small 395 00:29:45,460 --> 00:29:50,480 target because obviously you can just go up and fail as well. They don't have 396 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,820 the big target potential that this ABC does. 397 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,800 Let's see what this looks like on some charts here. 398 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:05,980 And you'll have to erase it first and then pick the normal one. 399 00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:08,380 Okay. 400 00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:13,950 So I erased everything. 401 00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:16,590 And then, yes. There we go. 402 00:30:16,990 --> 00:30:20,970 Teach me to have fun with a pen. Sorry about that, guys. 403 00:30:21,670 --> 00:30:27,030 All right. So this is a dollar index. This is actually from 18 years ago. 404 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:33,940 It's kind of cool because this market has been building repair, and you can 405 00:30:33,940 --> 00:30:37,760 where it was once upon a time. This dollar index was at 120. 406 00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:39,900 This is a weekly chart. 407 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,100 So the other thing that I'll mention that is really important is that the 408 00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:51,600 are always going to be cleanest and most distinguishable on the higher time 409 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,600 frames. 410 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,420 The lower the time frame that you go down to, the more noise. 411 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:04,800 So you can see right here this one little structure where we had the lower 412 00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:11,200 so it's kind of this ABC consolidation thing, and that led to a pretty much new 413 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:17,360 swing up. And same thing here, this little bit of a chart formation here, 414 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:23,640 ended up bringing a new swing down. But higher high, I mean, excuse me, lower 415 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920 high, lower low. 416 00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:31,690 Right here is your trend reversal point. At that point, you can definitively say 417 00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:34,250 that the market entered a downtrend. 418 00:31:34,850 --> 00:31:40,970 So same thing here on the inverse. This is the dollar index 419 00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:45,830 to the upside. This isn't the dollar index. 420 00:31:46,410 --> 00:31:49,310 That slide's cut off there. Whoops. 421 00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:54,690 So you can see the process of thinking about a failed ABC. 422 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,980 You have the ABC up, you come down, and then when you take out the high of that 423 00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:07,600 ABC, that is your maximum potential for capturing an 424 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:13,000 outlier. So think about a failed ABC, and that can lead to your big win. 425 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:20,680 Obviously, swing charts sound so simple, but you can see there's still plenty of 426 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:26,500 volatility here. So the computer was saying at this point, all the way 427 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:32,020 here, that this market is still in an uptrend. And the reason I say that is 428 00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:37,420 because just because we think something's in an uptrend doesn't mean 429 00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:40,980 still shouldn't use some type of risk management or risk control. This would 430 00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:47,560 have been a painful downdraft to ride out before then making a new high. 431 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,660 So a lot of times with stops, what I do is I tell myself, if I get stopped out, 432 00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:58,140 then that's allowing me to reenter the trend at a better price. 433 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,300 That's just a little mental trick that you can use. But I just did want to show 434 00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:08,920 that even in uptrends and downtrends, as we well know from last year, you do 435 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,500 have substantial volatility. 436 00:33:12,460 --> 00:33:17,220 And one more example here of the boons, a daily chart. 437 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:24,880 you know, little chart formation, and we have our lower high, 438 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,340 lower low, and when we take out that lower low here, that is the point where 439 00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:30,340 you've got a trend reversal. 440 00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:36,620 So everything I look at, I love looking at the swing structure, and obviously 441 00:33:36,620 --> 00:33:39,520 our job is to only trade the swings. 442 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,260 that are going to lead to a supply -demand push imbalance. 443 00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:49,220 We don't want to trade every swing. I think that that would be way too much 444 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:52,160 brain fry. 445 00:33:53,230 --> 00:33:56,910 The last concept I want to mention, this is just on a short -term tick chart, 446 00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:58,250 but it could be any time frame. 447 00:33:59,110 --> 00:34:03,310 And that's how I look at charts, by the way. This could be a weekly chart. It 448 00:34:03,310 --> 00:34:07,270 could be a daily chart. It could be a one -minute chart. All I see are the 449 00:34:07,270 --> 00:34:13,330 swings. And this concept of the sideways line where price fluctuated around a 450 00:34:13,330 --> 00:34:17,710 central value lot is also the last component of structure. 451 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,040 So I know at the very end of the third session, we're going to look at specific 452 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,000 markets. But just for fun, I wanted to show how this plays out with some 453 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,900 markets and what it will look like when I plot the swings. 454 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,800 Again, this red -green -red rule is simply if it moves up off the low by a 455 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,699 certain average true range function, it turns the swing green, and vice versa to 456 00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:44,578 the downside. 457 00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:47,219 So it makes it very visually pleasing. 458 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:49,989 in terms of pattern recognition. 459 00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:54,330 Very difficult to create a system off that, but it makes it very pleasing. 460 00:34:54,670 --> 00:34:59,030 And I always like to look at two time frames at once. So we have the weekly 461 00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:01,410 charts and the daily charts. This is IBM. 462 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,900 At the bottom of swings, one thing that we can often find on one time frame or 463 00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:14,120 another are these types of divergences. So even though this was a major 464 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,360 downswing and we took out that low, there was still a momentum divergence 465 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,320 led to a good drive back up. 466 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,220 Now I overlaid a zigzag function. 467 00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:30,460 This is a default on CQG, but actually TradeStation has something similar. 468 00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:37,460 packages do provide some type of function or you can draw it by hand or 469 00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:42,640 good chart study, it's easy visual inspection just to see the swing highs 470 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,640 swing lows. 471 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,520 Another trick, too, is this is a relatively fast oscillator here because 472 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,700 difference between a 3 and 10 simple moving average. 473 00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:54,620 But if you were to plot... 474 00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:59,510 A slower stochastic, and just look for the turning points on that. You'll see 475 00:35:59,510 --> 00:36:03,550 that it's pretty analogous to highlighting the swings as well. 476 00:36:04,170 --> 00:36:10,990 So I'm not going to say much more about this, except for the fact that the 477 00:36:10,990 --> 00:36:15,090 weekly chart of IBM is still in a downtrend. 478 00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:19,110 With that said, I don't look so much at... 479 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,840 The weekly trends, because the trend reversal can only come like once every 480 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,820 or six years. It's a very, very long time horizon. 481 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,660 But you can see here, the thing I wanted to point out with IBM on this daily 482 00:36:31,660 --> 00:36:38,520 chart here is that the computer will say this is still in a downtrend. So even 483 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:45,020 though we had this huge rally here, it's a downtrend because it still needs to 484 00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:46,460 make a higher low. 485 00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:50,350 These are just formable rules. It's not a trading system. 486 00:36:50,590 --> 00:36:55,130 It's just a way of categorizing things, because when we do start to look at 487 00:36:55,130 --> 00:37:01,550 relative strength, then it becomes critically important to be able to 488 00:37:01,550 --> 00:37:05,910 categorize it. Now, this is interesting, too, because Apple Weekly, I just 489 00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:07,710 wanted to show the contrast. 490 00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:13,850 Apple Weekly is still in an uptrend, and conversely, 491 00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:19,320 this chart right here would show that this is now in a downtrend since we made 492 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,720 lower highs and then took out that low. 493 00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:26,920 So I thought that was sort of interesting where you can see that one 494 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,740 still technically is in an uptrend and this one is in a downtrend. I know that 495 00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:35,160 sounds confusing. Don't try and think about it. It doesn't matter because 496 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,120 find ways to harness this information later in a very simple mode. 497 00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:46,100 Now, I'll also say that we know, see this V spike here on the weekly charts? 498 00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:49,700 We did a lot of modeling with these swings. 499 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:56,180 And you would be surprised that these V spikes, meaning sharp up, you can see 500 00:37:56,180 --> 00:38:01,600 this last upswing was greater than the previous upswing, and this last 501 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,980 was greater than the previous downswing. So that constitutes a V spike. 502 00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:09,840 These occurrences in the data are a lot more frequent. 503 00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:12,570 than you might imagine. 504 00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:16,910 You know, we like to think that you can just play flags and continuation 505 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:22,430 patterns up and down and then you'll enter a nice normal trading range, but 506 00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:29,170 that's not so. We get these radical sharp up thrusts and then coming back 507 00:38:29,170 --> 00:38:30,930 and vice versa more than you think. 508 00:38:31,210 --> 00:38:37,190 Now, typically what happens is if you have a sharp up and a sharp down, the 509 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:41,950 expected outcome is that it'll start to form a prolonged trading range. 510 00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:47,750 So I would suspect that Apple right here, I would guess that this is going 511 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:54,310 start to form a very prolonged trading range until it can start to find its 512 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:57,970 balance and equilibrium level. So if I were looking at Apple, I would say it's 513 00:38:57,970 --> 00:39:02,050 lousy investment stock right now because it's probably going to go nowhere. 514 00:39:05,759 --> 00:39:09,620 And this was sort of random. I was actually trying to call up another 515 00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:12,180 I came across this stock purely by accident. 516 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,820 You know, I'm sure you go to punch in the symbol CI or something. 517 00:39:16,820 --> 00:39:20,580 CCI, I'm like, I have no idea what it is. I had to look it up. It was a REIT, 518 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,600 right? 519 00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:26,230 Crown Castle, I thought, well, this is a pillar of relative strength. 520 00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:32,410 And the one thing that's most notable is that when we had that huge weekly sell 521 00:39:32,410 --> 00:39:37,290 -off at the beginning of this year and the end of last year, you can see the 522 00:39:37,290 --> 00:39:40,190 weekly charts here still made a higher low. 523 00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:45,570 At these cycle bottoms or at these extreme points, that's one of the best 524 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:49,650 components of relative strength that you can do is say, where are the swings 525 00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:55,170 that were up higher than the previous lows, and voila, there was pretty much a 526 00:39:55,170 --> 00:40:00,970 nifty push to new highs here on this daily. So we had the weeklies in an 527 00:40:00,970 --> 00:40:06,180 uptrend. And the dailies were in an uptrend. And remember what I said about 528 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:09,120 ABC, ABC, ABC. 529 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,180 These types of waves are very well behaved. 530 00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:20,120 And so that was funny because then I called up this stock just out of 531 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,540 And I was like, wow, two radically different. 532 00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:31,700 and it should be a very common sense type of thing that this one had much 533 00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,000 investment opportunity, obviously. 534 00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:40,140 And that, to me, is the crux of technical analysis. It has to be common 535 00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:46,080 It has to fit the common sense bill. And so I try to refrain from using anything 536 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,740 like Fibonacci numbers or pivots that people can't see in the market. 537 00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:58,680 You know, just Elliott Wave doesn't work for me because two different people can 538 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,060 come up with the same conclusion, you know, totally different conclusions. 539 00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:05,860 You know, I can't have this alternate count thing because you don't get to do 540 00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:09,160 that in your trading. You don't get to say, oh, well, wait, I'm going to back 541 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,920 and trade in the other direction. 542 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,100 That was just an interesting aside. 543 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,260 And then lastly, I thought this was kind of interesting because these 30 -year 544 00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:23,420 yield charts, right now there's a lot of focus on the yields. Of course, the 545 00:41:23,420 --> 00:41:25,800 boons went screaming to the upside today. 546 00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:32,500 But this was the weekly chart of the 30 -year yields. 547 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,960 And you can see what we did here. It was one of those sort of V -spike things. 548 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,250 So normally, when you take out... that swing high, you should not come back 549 00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:47,010 that range by more than 50 cents. That's 50%. That's a real failure. 550 00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:51,250 And here, I thought there was a chance that we would be able to break out more 551 00:41:51,250 --> 00:41:56,710 to the upside when I printed off this chart, and it just failed to get any. 552 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,460 As I say, it didn't catch hold. 553 00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:04,280 And you can see the swing ended up being shorter than this previous swing. And, 554 00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:08,380 of course, where were we today? We're just trading back down around here. And 555 00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:14,520 looks like very probable this could be a big, broad trading range environment as 556 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,280 well. So the daily chart is always going to give a better. 557 00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:23,120 a different picture than the weekly and a different picture than the monthly 558 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,500 because I know it's very easy for people to get way too bullish on this market 559 00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:31,220 or way too bearish on this market, but it looks to me like it's pretty much 560 00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:32,640 in the water here for now. 561 00:42:34,060 --> 00:42:40,200 Okay, so let's go on and look at some more nuances on different types of 562 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,960 strategies and models, okay, because we're really talking about the models 563 00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:51,120 I tend to categorize most of my models and strategies into several different 564 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:56,380 groups. Momentum strategies, obviously, like a breakout and continuation and 565 00:42:56,380 --> 00:42:57,380 trend. 566 00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:03,500 Mean reversion after the market's had a big move. Mean reverting strategies as a 567 00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:06,100 market tries to wind down to equilibrium. 568 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,860 And then we also have specific strategies that we can model, such as a 569 00:43:11,860 --> 00:43:16,400 opening gap or time of day functions, even seasonals. 570 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:19,070 categorize as a specific strategy. 571 00:43:19,630 --> 00:43:24,290 And then I don't want to elaborate on the rest of this stuff too much, but the 572 00:43:24,290 --> 00:43:29,550 market profile concepts, really important when we start talking in our 573 00:43:29,550 --> 00:43:36,270 session, open, test, reject, okay? Open drive, open rotate, open trend. These 574 00:43:36,270 --> 00:43:41,290 were all things that were written about by Peter Stottlemyre originally. 575 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:48,760 Jim Dalton popularized them. And it's just the fact that when a market opens, 576 00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:53,720 and you can think about the start of the new year as being an opening, the start 577 00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,600 of a new month as being an opening. 578 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:01,240 It's that first data point. And when we judge the market's action, we're always 579 00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:08,190 judging one data point to a second data point. So if it's the market opening, On 580 00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:12,910 the New York open, it can open and it can rally up and then fail. In other 581 00:44:12,910 --> 00:44:16,090 words, it tested to the upside and rejected it. 582 00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:22,430 Or it can open up and rally straight away and never look back. That would be 583 00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:23,430 open drive. 584 00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:29,250 Or it could be open rotate, meaning that you just turn around that central value 585 00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:30,510 and really go nowhere. 586 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,400 So you can think about this, again, at the start of the month. How does the 587 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,860 month play out? How does a week play out? How does the day play out? 588 00:44:39,580 --> 00:44:42,520 Is it a rotational trading range year? 589 00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:49,400 It's just always judging the price relative to another price and how urgent 590 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,240 is that initial supply -demand imbalance. 591 00:44:55,500 --> 00:45:00,780 What I try to do is pretty much capture a piece of the morning trend, probably a 592 00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:05,340 little bit shorter time frame than the bulk of this presentation. 593 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,300 I like to see if I can capture the sweet spot because that's when you have Asia 594 00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:16,080 still open, Europe still open, and the U .S. still open. So you're going to have 595 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,160 the best sustainability, at least for the products that I trade. 596 00:45:22,410 --> 00:45:26,310 Non -confirmation, I know all you guys are aware of that. These are the types 597 00:45:26,310 --> 00:45:31,810 things that I look at just in my definition of technical analysis. 598 00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:37,670 Okay, with all that covered, I'm going to start to get down to some nitty 599 00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:40,570 -gritty models and then what we can learn from them. 600 00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:47,110 This is a two -period rate of change, and it is the only indicator that's a 601 00:45:47,110 --> 00:45:48,250 derivative of price. 602 00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:52,090 Because price is the truest indicator always. 603 00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:57,070 And then when we start talking about a derivative of price, you're talking 604 00:45:57,070 --> 00:46:04,010 a stochastic or an oscillator, ADX, things that use the 605 00:46:04,010 --> 00:46:10,270 price in them. And those things are very, very difficult to use in a model. 606 00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:12,610 just don't have a sustainable edge. 607 00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:16,750 They're great for pattern recognition, but if you try and plug them into a 608 00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:17,750 linear model, 609 00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:20,850 It just doesn't test out. 610 00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:26,490 But the two -period rate of change is the only indicator I've found where 611 00:46:26,490 --> 00:46:31,210 there's a statistically significant edge. Now, mind you, you're not going to 612 00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:37,310 rich on it, but there's selective patterns that we can use. And the first 613 00:46:37,310 --> 00:46:42,970 I wanted to point out here was making these new momentum lows on this two 614 00:46:42,970 --> 00:46:46,010 -period rate of change is one of the strongest. 615 00:46:47,690 --> 00:46:54,630 and most durable statistics. So we made new momentum lows, and here's 616 00:46:54,630 --> 00:47:00,070 the catch with any oscillator or indicator, you also made new price lows. 617 00:47:00,330 --> 00:47:06,250 So if we have a case where we make new price lows and new momentum lows, the 618 00:47:06,250 --> 00:47:09,970 price has great odds of still trading lower. 619 00:47:10,170 --> 00:47:13,770 So it's a very good leading indicator, if you will. 620 00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:19,620 And you can see what I like to look for is this up 1, 2 right here, this little 621 00:47:19,620 --> 00:47:25,300 drift pattern, as it's called in technical analysis, and then we revert 622 00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:30,030 down. So this is just the first little thing that I like to look for in trading 623 00:47:30,030 --> 00:47:37,030 that's pretty much a gimme, one of those 90 % trades, looking to short the first 624 00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:41,310 reaction up after that new momentum low. So that's a pretty common one. 625 00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:44,470 Also, you'll see that the little... 626 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,900 Divergences can show up exceptionally well on this when you have the buy 627 00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:51,340 divergence here. 628 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,540 And then, of course, the price made a new high, and we actually ended up not 629 00:47:56,540 --> 00:47:58,720 quite making a higher high until right here. 630 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,280 But this is the little pattern recognition that I like to look for. 631 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,940 another little drift pattern with this down one, too. And we were actually able 632 00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:11,960 to model this pretty substantially. 633 00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:19,320 So along with this two -period rate of change, it works best in an active 634 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,120 swinging market. Nothing works well in a trading range market. 635 00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:29,780 But see if you can look for these types of patterns on a particular stock that 636 00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:34,080 you like to trade or I only do it off of daily charts. 637 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,580 I don't use anything like this on intraday. 638 00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:39,460 And here's my main goal. 639 00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:42,440 I want to get the main idea. 640 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,480 Right for the day. 641 00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:49,380 I don't always do that, but that's my objective is I want to say, is it going 642 00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:54,380 be a low to high day or is it going to be a high to low day? 643 00:48:54,940 --> 00:49:01,120 So if you just think about getting the main idea right, that's. 644 00:49:01,530 --> 00:49:05,250 That's a good part of the game. Then it takes a lot less pressure on your 645 00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:07,170 entries and your exits. 646 00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:12,610 You know, in theory, if you could buy on the opening and sell on the close, of 647 00:49:12,610 --> 00:49:15,210 course we don't do that. That's get the main idea right. 648 00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:20,550 So when we have these cases where we're in an uptrending market and have this 649 00:49:20,550 --> 00:49:24,930 down one, two, and we've got this close below this five -period simple moving 650 00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:25,930 average, 651 00:49:26,190 --> 00:49:30,850 It's a really high probability buy day and get the main idea right. 652 00:49:31,290 --> 00:49:36,070 And so if I can just go in for one day at a time, one little piece at a time, 653 00:49:36,070 --> 00:49:41,070 and take it from there, that is my favorite game. Now, what happens is 654 00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:46,230 eventually you can see up here at the top, we've had our good markup, and now 655 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:48,870 I've got what I call is a three -bar. 656 00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:54,780 This was actually something that Richard Dennis used, and I read it in a book 657 00:49:54,780 --> 00:50:00,240 that was written in the 50s, talking about this specific little pattern where 658 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:06,040 you have the high is below the two -day high, and the low is above the two -day 659 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640 low, and it forms a three -bar triangle. 660 00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:13,260 When we modeled this, and by the way, you can't see the data point over here 661 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:18,780 the left side of the chart, but when we modeled this, we found that it had the 662 00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:23,800 highest odds of follow -through the day after, although you can see it didn't in 663 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:29,220 this case. But what I mean by that is, how many of you are familiar with Toby 664 00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:36,040 Cravel's work or that concept of NR7, narrowest range of the last seven days, 665 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,480 inside range days? 666 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,340 I'm always looking for where do we have the best odds of... 667 00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:51,540 trading above that day's high the following day. So, for example, down 668 00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:57,060 have a range expansion day up, breakout from three bar, and we actually traded 669 00:50:57,060 --> 00:51:02,860 above this high the following day. So I'm just trying to take one data point 670 00:51:02,860 --> 00:51:09,000 a time. So this three bar triangle, even though here it failed to do that, it 671 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,420 failed to take out this high the following day. In fact, it failed to get 672 00:51:13,420 --> 00:51:14,420 expansion. 673 00:51:15,370 --> 00:51:20,430 one of our most successful trading patterns over the last three years. 674 00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:29,010 And then lastly, you can see this slow line here that I have plotted against 675 00:51:29,010 --> 00:51:31,690 this two -period rate of change. 676 00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:38,930 This is nothing more than that 310 oscillator, which I showed you earlier, 677 00:51:38,930 --> 00:51:40,610 we'll look at some more. 678 00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:47,770 It's a 16 -period moving average of the 3 and 10 simple. Whoops. 679 00:51:49,210 --> 00:51:53,890 And there's so many ways we can create this same pattern recognition. 680 00:51:54,490 --> 00:52:01,410 For example, if you had a fast stochastic, say a 9 or a 7 -period 681 00:52:01,410 --> 00:52:05,930 and you simply ran a 16 -period moving average of that. 682 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,160 It creates the trend of the momentum. That's how I like to think about it. And 683 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:18,120 you can also see how closely it mirrors this moving average, the slope of this 684 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,240 moving average. So you don't even need this at all. It's just a crutch for 685 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:23,420 visual inspection. 686 00:52:24,730 --> 00:52:29,070 But you can see the moving average sloping up and sloping down and sloping 687 00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:34,270 And wouldn't it be so easy if, as traders, you could say we're only 688 00:52:34,270 --> 00:52:39,070 take trades to the long side when you've got this upsloping momentum. 689 00:52:39,490 --> 00:52:43,930 You're only allowed to take trades to the downside when you've got this 690 00:52:43,930 --> 00:52:49,930 downsloping and so forth. And what we're going to use as our trigger, what I use 691 00:52:49,930 --> 00:52:54,050 as my trigger, is looking for the points where this can flip up. 692 00:52:54,430 --> 00:52:59,830 or flip down, and you can actually calculate out the pivots ahead of time. 693 00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:05,530 And here was the first time that we rolled over to a negative slope, and it 694 00:53:05,530 --> 00:53:07,990 to a wonderful shorting day. 695 00:53:08,290 --> 00:53:14,970 And vice versa here, we just turned up, and it leads to a wonderful buying 696 00:53:14,970 --> 00:53:15,970 day. 697 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,800 Obviously, I'm showing an example that's making it clean and easy for you. 698 00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:27,140 Unfortunately, the problem is that the markets can also enter trading ranges 699 00:53:27,140 --> 00:53:32,840 where the volatility just shrinks and there's not much opportunity at all. 700 00:53:33,140 --> 00:53:39,640 So for me, it's really important as a trader that I go where the action is, 701 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,340 I go where the volatility is. 702 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,580 And I'm pretty much the first to admit that. 703 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:51,980 If it's a narrow trading range, 99 % of the time I'm going to get the breakout 704 00:53:51,980 --> 00:53:53,360 direction wrong. 705 00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:57,580 Okay, so I'm aware of that. 706 00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:03,740 So back to our process of modeling, finding different ways to express 707 00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:04,820 conditions. 708 00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:10,100 Okay, and I am going to take... 709 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,900 Plenty of time for questions. In about ten minutes, I'll take time for 710 00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:19,120 questions, and then we're going to continue on with the presentation. 711 00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:24,680 So if you have – just hold on a little bit longer here. 712 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:32,120 The process of modeling, back to testing the entries and the exits and how I do 713 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,600 the modeling, I like to test things on a time window. 714 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:43,890 I like to say if I bought – on the opening and I exited on the close or on 715 00:54:43,890 --> 00:54:46,710 the next day's opening or on the next day's close. 716 00:54:47,110 --> 00:54:50,470 That's really how I do most of my modeling. 717 00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:56,250 It's also if you look at seasonals or the tendencies that happen around 718 00:54:56,250 --> 00:55:01,330 holidays. If you bought two days before the end of the last trading day and then 719 00:55:01,330 --> 00:55:06,770 exited three days later or if we bought the day before the Thanksgiving holiday 720 00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:09,430 and exited the next Tuesday. 721 00:55:10,060 --> 00:55:13,600 This makes for the most durable and robust framework. 722 00:55:14,060 --> 00:55:19,760 It's like an actuarial table, okay? Of course, you know, I know that if I have 723 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:26,720 15 occurrences, 15 different years, and 13 of those years are right, okay, 724 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:32,280 this is just basic modeling stuff. If I look 15 years, I have a sample size of 725 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:38,180 15 and 13 wins, the odds of a win going forward are only... 726 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:46,500 It seems like they should be more, but it's not. So it's just a probability, 727 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:50,860 the reason why it's not more is because you have a fairly low confidence factor 728 00:55:50,860 --> 00:55:53,120 because of the low sample size. 729 00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:59,900 So when I do my modeling, I'm looking at simply if I bought on the breakout and 730 00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:05,740 exited on the close the following day, or if I entered at 12 noon and I exited 731 00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:12,600 at 2 p .m., these types of little pieces of small data to me are really 732 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,600 what has made my model hold up over all these years. 733 00:56:19,530 --> 00:56:23,990 I'm not going to go too much into stops, but we do test different things with 734 00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:29,630 stops. You know, if we trailed a channel stop or we trailed a dollar stop or a 735 00:56:29,630 --> 00:56:30,950 percentage ATR. 736 00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:35,810 I like the time stops and I like the disaster stops, which are like something 737 00:56:35,810 --> 00:56:37,030 very extreme. 738 00:56:37,370 --> 00:56:43,490 And what we found in all of our modeling is that a combination of two stops is 739 00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:44,550 what works best. 740 00:56:45,090 --> 00:56:48,150 I tend to prefer a time stop. 741 00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:49,720 and a channel stop. 742 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:56,020 So you could say, I'm going to exit after five bars or if it stops me out by 743 00:56:56,020 --> 00:57:01,680 making a new three -day low, okay, for example, in a long. So I'll hold that 744 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:07,700 long for five days. If it hasn't reached the point where I can trail a stop or 745 00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:14,160 exit, I'll just exit on a time stop or the channel stop will take me out. But 746 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,160 the point I wanted to make, if you're going to create a system, you actually 747 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,580 will do best if you can find two different types of stops to combine. 748 00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:29,520 And we're not developing systems this particular session. We're just doing 749 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,580 models and stuff, but I have to mention that. And then also for the filters. 750 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,100 We can use the time of day, the day of week, seasonals. For example, some 751 00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:45,220 tend to work better at certain times of the year, especially with stocks. 752 00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:49,880 There's groups of stocks, for example, retailers might be better at one time of 753 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,780 the year. Oil stocks might be better at one time of the year than the other 754 00:57:52,780 --> 00:57:54,580 year. Just little subtle nuances. 755 00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:59,060 Volatility filters, are we in a range state? 756 00:57:59,660 --> 00:58:01,940 Or have we broken out and are trending? 757 00:58:02,540 --> 00:58:08,320 Here's something interesting that you might find interesting is 758 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:14,400 ATRs. Okay, when we do a lot of modeling, we're looking at breakouts and 759 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:20,340 patterns. I meant to say ADXs. You would think, paradoxically, that when you 760 00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:24,680 have a low ADX, that means there's a lot of price bar overlap. 761 00:58:25,770 --> 00:58:30,210 that that's the point that you should do a breakout trade or that's the point if 762 00:58:30,210 --> 00:58:32,890 you bought a new high, it could lead to a bigger win. 763 00:58:33,310 --> 00:58:36,210 And in fact, the opposite is true. 764 00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:41,290 So if you're in a very choppy, narrow range and it looks like it's coiled 765 00:58:41,290 --> 00:58:46,230 to break out, what you'll find is that it tends to give two or three false 766 00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:47,290 breakouts first. 767 00:58:48,130 --> 00:58:53,730 And so the moral of the story is let the market come to life first. 768 00:58:54,350 --> 00:58:59,910 Let it tip its hand first before you go sticking your nose in it. Then the 769 00:58:59,910 --> 00:59:01,250 swings are tradable. 770 00:59:01,650 --> 00:59:06,330 Buying a new 20 -day high or whatever model that you're looking at tends to 771 00:59:06,330 --> 00:59:07,330 much better. 772 00:59:07,550 --> 00:59:13,130 So don't get stuck in these dull, quiet markets thinking that it's going to come 773 00:59:13,130 --> 00:59:14,130 to life. 774 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,340 Okay, now we're going to have some real fun. I'm going to show specific models 775 00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:26,300 and what each one of them has taught me, and you'll see the different ways that 776 00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:28,920 we have actually modeled data. 777 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:36,140 This particular model was simply going long when that two -period rate of 778 00:59:36,140 --> 00:59:42,520 that I showed you made a 30 -day high and going short when it made a new 20 779 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:48,540 low. Now, on this particular model, All we did was test for a very small target, 780 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,660 .5 ATRs. 781 00:59:50,860 --> 00:59:55,140 You'd be like, well, what's the point of doing that? What's the point of getting 782 00:59:55,140 --> 00:59:59,280 into a model and you're just playing for such a really small target? 783 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,980 Because I wanted to know that I would have a super high win rate. And from 784 01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:10,500 there, then you can always trail a stop, take half off and trail a stop. And how 785 01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:16,520 you manage these trades is really a big component of most of these systems. But 786 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:23,340 the point being, with every single market across the board, when we went 787 01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:28,780 after the two -payer rate of change had made a new high, we had an 80%. 788 01:00:29,540 --> 01:00:35,160 So that really tells you the power of the momentum. So here you can see on 789 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,680 Canadian dollar, our two -period rate of change made new momentum lows, and we 790 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:46,600 went short, and we just played for a very small piece, half of an ATR with a 791 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:51,980 very wide stop, but you'll see super high win rate, super high. And same 792 01:00:51,980 --> 01:00:52,738 right here. 793 01:00:52,740 --> 01:00:56,320 Now I'll tell you one more trick that we'll look at just in a minute. 794 01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:03,060 and that is we can get this win rate up to 90%, but it's going to take a little 795 01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:07,420 bit of pattern recognition, and I'm going to show you very clearly how to do 796 01:01:07,420 --> 01:01:12,060 that. But that's pretty cool that I can get a 90 % win rate playing for, of 797 01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:16,100 course, a small target on every single market out there. 798 01:01:16,540 --> 01:01:21,140 And so this concept of momentum is very seductive. 799 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,260 And here is another case, natural gas. 800 01:01:26,910 --> 01:01:32,510 Perhaps you had to take a little bit of heat in here, but you definitely led to 801 01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:33,328 lower lows. 802 01:01:33,330 --> 01:01:39,410 So one of the first tenets of technical analysis is momentum precedes price. 803 01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:47,610 And here, same thing to the upside with the bonds, just starting along the way, 804 01:01:47,710 --> 01:01:49,910 and same thing here to the downside. 805 01:01:50,550 --> 01:01:54,630 Now, you can see on the chart here, it doesn't look like this market's in a 806 01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:57,350 downtrend. on the daily chart, right? 807 01:01:58,090 --> 01:02:04,950 But there's a big difference between new momentum and a downtrend. 808 01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:12,750 Now, here's one of the little traps that I wanted to show you. This will very 809 01:02:12,750 --> 01:02:19,610 often happen when you have a long liquidation flush, which 810 01:02:19,610 --> 01:02:24,190 can set up some of the best buying opportunities, just like a short squeeze 811 01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:25,190 as well. 812 01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:30,550 So this would be a case where we made new momentum lows, but the price didn't 813 01:02:30,550 --> 01:02:35,670 even take out the five -day lows. So we didn't really have a new price low 814 01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:41,210 there, and that's why this would be a false signal. That would be one of the 815 01:02:41,210 --> 01:02:42,910 % of the times that it didn't work. 816 01:02:43,150 --> 01:02:48,910 Do you see the difference? We can take any indicator out there, and the most 817 01:02:48,910 --> 01:02:51,730 important thing is to put it in context. 818 01:02:52,750 --> 01:02:58,470 Put it in the context, is it just a flush or is it really breaking out to 819 01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:59,650 highs and new lows? 820 01:03:00,950 --> 01:03:04,610 Let's look at another trade. This is fun. This was a pinball, and this was 821 01:03:04,610 --> 01:03:07,030 actually published in the Street Smarts book. 822 01:03:07,590 --> 01:03:11,090 And what we found out, of course, after the fact, or else I wouldn't 823 01:03:11,090 --> 01:03:13,130 purposefully withhold anything, 824 01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:20,750 Once you added this filter of only taking the longs if it's above the 20 825 01:03:20,750 --> 01:03:26,490 exponential moving average and only taking the shorts if it's below and 826 01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:31,090 end days after, this is what it would look like. This is the indicator down 827 01:03:31,090 --> 01:03:37,950 here, which is a three -period RSI of a one -period 828 01:03:37,950 --> 01:03:38,950 rate of change. 829 01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:44,740 And you can see here if we bought and then always test out exit day one, day 830 01:03:44,740 --> 01:03:51,080 two, day three, that type of exit, all of these were specific 831 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,280 signals here. 832 01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:58,460 And then this would be the results of the pinball. 833 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:04,300 And you can see it's not profitable in every single market, but it's profitable 834 01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:06,960 enough that it would catch our attention. 835 01:04:07,630 --> 01:04:13,450 Now, keep in mind, we didn't add any filters to it, such as don't take the 836 01:04:13,450 --> 01:04:17,990 pinballs after a divergence or after a buying or sell climax. 837 01:04:18,430 --> 01:04:23,390 It's just like the last flag and the end of the run will be a bad one. 838 01:04:23,730 --> 01:04:29,030 But the point is that this is a particular pattern that holds true in 839 01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:33,590 stocks, in all futures markets, and just about any market. 840 01:04:33,950 --> 01:04:35,490 And it's just a general. 841 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:41,560 66 % win -loss ratio, and it's one of the little patterns that I like to look 842 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:42,760 for to trade. 843 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:52,740 This is probably the most eye -opening modeling for me 844 01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:59,540 that really changed my thinking in the markets and trading, and I called them 845 01:04:59,540 --> 01:05:02,700 extended runs or persistency of trend. 846 01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:09,100 and I'll show you what it looks like right here. A persistency of trend is 847 01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:14,800 multiple closes on one side of this five -period simple moving average. 848 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:20,700 So down here at the bottom, I have a histogram that's the difference between 849 01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:24,160 one and a five -period moving average. 850 01:05:24,580 --> 01:05:30,000 So it just tells me that if this is negative, it's below the five -period. 851 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:35,780 Moving average. See, it's a neat little trick just for visual processing here. 852 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:43,440 And the reason why this was such an important modeling for me is because 853 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:48,740 as a trader, I like to be more aggressive on short terms. You know, if 854 01:05:48,740 --> 01:05:53,360 swing trading, you buy for two, three, four days, you sell for two, three, four 855 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,200 days, you buy for two, three, four days, and you get into a nice little rhythm. 856 01:05:58,030 --> 01:06:02,430 And then once in a while, one of these trends come along and it trends and it 857 01:06:02,430 --> 01:06:04,030 trends and it trends. 858 01:06:04,430 --> 01:06:08,410 And if you're too early, you know, it's a good chance it's going to be very 859 01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:15,390 painful. So here you can see I have multiple closes on one side of this 860 01:06:15,390 --> 01:06:20,930 moving average. So we simply said, for starters, after we have seven closes on 861 01:06:20,930 --> 01:06:23,210 one side, what happens if. 862 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:28,460 I'll just say the computer shorted the first close above, and then the computer 863 01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:31,340 covered the first close below. 864 01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:36,400 Okay, so that's the way I do my modeling is I'm not looking at specific 865 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:42,940 techniques to time the entry or manage the trade. I just want to say what 866 01:06:42,940 --> 01:06:47,700 happens if the computer went long and the computer then covered, and you'll 867 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:53,920 Pretty much four trades here. Two were winners and two were losers. 868 01:06:54,140 --> 01:07:00,000 And I always make it a point to show you guys what the losers would look like 869 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,160 from a computer's point of view. 870 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:08,600 So, of course, if you shorted here on this day, on this close, you had plenty 871 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,800 opportunity to cover it for a profit in the next two days. But the computer 872 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:14,759 covered it. 873 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,920 Right there. So the computer shorted there and covered there. 874 01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:23,640 The computer shorted there and covered there. And that's how I do my modeling. 875 01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:28,660 But in this process, we learn tremendously powerful things. 876 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,600 Here's the just simple little retracement trades on the spiders. And 877 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:39,120 just a little, it's just a little testing thing. Sometimes it leads to a 878 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,580 new swing, but we're just playing for this first little reaction down and the 879 01:07:43,580 --> 01:07:49,940 first swing up. And that's simply if you've had seven or more closes on one 880 01:07:49,940 --> 01:07:53,260 of the five SMA, five period simple moving average. 881 01:07:53,820 --> 01:07:59,060 The first reaction on the opposite side of it just sets up a simple retracement 882 01:07:59,060 --> 01:08:05,460 trade. So these are high probability trades, but small wins, small 883 01:08:05,460 --> 01:08:09,860 targets. They're the opposite of capturing the outlier. 884 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,400 What would capturing the outlier be? 885 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,080 Capturing the outlier would be if you could capture this. 886 01:08:16,410 --> 01:08:22,529 whole run down, the whole new swing down. Being able to capture this 887 01:08:22,529 --> 01:08:25,490 run is really where the power is. 888 01:08:26,189 --> 01:08:30,090 And there's some of these things that we'll look at that do that. You can see 889 01:08:30,090 --> 01:08:34,550 right here, one of the little patterns at the end of the swing was that three 890 01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:38,970 -bar triangle in an oversold market. Whoops, right down here. 891 01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:42,649 Obviously, the break from the ABC consolidation. 892 01:08:44,060 --> 01:08:49,080 and we'll look at how the weeklies or the higher time frame is of critical aid 893 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,680 in bagging these extended runs. 894 01:08:54,140 --> 01:09:01,060 Now, here's a very skinny scalp at the top of this extended run, okay, and 895 01:09:01,060 --> 01:09:05,899 we're going to look at the numbers between when is the market too 896 01:09:05,899 --> 01:09:08,540 too oversold to really play this. 897 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:15,880 Okay, 898 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,819 the tables were coming to that, but the tables simply will show that once you 899 01:09:21,819 --> 01:09:28,420 hit 22 closes on one side of this five SMA, it's actually better 900 01:09:28,420 --> 01:09:32,200 to trade in the direction of the first cross. 901 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:38,340 So, yes, something can become way too oversold or way too overbought that you 902 01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:42,420 would not want to do a retracement trade at the end of it. 903 01:09:42,859 --> 01:09:45,120 Now, here's another thing that's really cool. 904 01:09:45,819 --> 01:09:51,040 Every single market that we've modeled, and there's about 28 futures markets, 905 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:57,580 including the currencies and the bonds and soybeans and everything, every 906 01:09:57,580 --> 01:10:04,360 market has had at least 28 closes on one side of a five SMA. 907 01:10:04,820 --> 01:10:10,480 Think about that. That's ridiculous. That's like five weeks of steady grind. 908 01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:14,750 And if you think that you're smart enough to know when the bottom is going 909 01:10:14,750 --> 01:10:20,070 come in or the top is going to come in, it's extremely dangerous to try and play 910 01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:20,929 that game. 911 01:10:20,930 --> 01:10:26,530 So we started off asking, okay, what happens if we actually go long 912 01:10:26,530 --> 01:10:32,130 when a market has had ten closes on one side of the five SMA? 913 01:10:32,730 --> 01:10:36,090 I mean, wouldn't you think that the market's very overbought? 914 01:10:36,410 --> 01:10:40,290 Why would you possibly want to go long if it had already been up ten days? 915 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,760 And then we said, well, okay, then hold it for 10 days after that. 916 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:51,640 And so we did this type of modeling where here's a case where we were going 917 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:57,060 short after 10 days, and then we covered the short after 10 days. 918 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,140 Here's another case where you went short after 10 days and covered after 10 919 01:11:02,140 --> 01:11:03,140 days. 920 01:11:03,260 --> 01:11:08,860 Now, mind you, I'm not suggesting that you do this as a system, nor am I 921 01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:09,860 suggesting. 922 01:11:10,140 --> 01:11:11,720 that you do this as a trade. 923 01:11:12,180 --> 01:11:18,640 But what it does illustrate to us is that there's a ridiculous power to this 924 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:24,740 trend, to this degree of trend. And it's hard for our brains to conceive of just 925 01:11:24,740 --> 01:11:27,180 how far this trend can go. 926 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,580 Natural gas. 927 01:11:30,730 --> 01:11:35,010 This was one entering six days and exiting six days later. And then I'll 928 01:11:35,010 --> 01:11:36,450 you the table for all these things. 929 01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:41,570 Now, at this point, you pulled back. You'd say, who's going to go short 930 01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:45,270 That would be crazy. We're oversold. We just bonked down a little bit. 931 01:11:45,650 --> 01:11:49,930 But then we proceeded to bonk down even more. And then who's going to short down 932 01:11:49,930 --> 01:11:53,590 here? Because at this point, you had one, two, three, four, five, six. 933 01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:58,110 Six closes, and that's what we're modeling. Who's going to go short here? 934 01:11:58,110 --> 01:11:59,110 be crazy. 935 01:11:59,290 --> 01:12:00,850 But it still turned out a winner. 936 01:12:01,190 --> 01:12:08,090 And this is the grid that shows that at the top on 937 01:12:08,090 --> 01:12:12,510 this here, the number of days after we entered. 938 01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:18,130 Okay, so say, for example, you've only had four closes above. 939 01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:24,230 You can see that's not very profitable to go long after four closes. 940 01:12:25,810 --> 01:12:28,170 Here you have eight closes above. 941 01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:35,280 And if we go across over here, the number on the left, whoops, I got it 942 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,900 backwards. Okay, so this would be entering after five closes, exiting 943 01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:45,420 four, five, six, seven, eight days. You can see, not a significant number. If 944 01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:50,120 anything, you would want to make a counter trend trade after five days. 945 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:56,280 But when we start to jump to eight days on one side of that five -period simple 946 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,280 moving average, 947 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:04,480 Look what happens if we exit five days later, six days later, seven days later, 948 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:10,440 eight days later. The longer the holding time, the greater the profit potential. 949 01:13:10,940 --> 01:13:16,320 It was such an eye -opener to me to see that I could enter on day eight when it 950 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:21,640 felt like the trend had really gotten away from me, and yet still the power of 951 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,640 these numbers is saying, nope, can still easily go for another week or two. 952 01:13:27,310 --> 01:13:32,570 Now you can also see what happens when you enter on after 19 days. 953 01:13:32,990 --> 01:13:38,070 After 19 days, the results start to get fairly negative, and that was the 954 01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:41,130 threshold at which we said we don't want to play that game anymore. 955 01:13:43,470 --> 01:13:44,470 Okay, so. 956 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,060 This was sort of the composition, the makeup of these markets. 957 01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:55,760 And I always remove the biggest winner and the biggest loser then to see what 958 01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:02,140 the results would look like after that. Because, as you know, with systems or a 959 01:14:02,140 --> 01:14:08,560 model, it's going to be very dependent on just a few markets making the bulk of 960 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:13,940 the profits. For example, a trend -following system, we might have a 961 01:14:13,940 --> 01:14:15,020 15 different. 962 01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:19,670 stocks or futures that we're using in our trend following system, but truly 963 01:14:19,670 --> 01:14:25,070 what's going to happen is three of those are going to make up 70 % of the 964 01:14:25,070 --> 01:14:31,450 profit. So I still have to see that if I remove the biggest winners from my test 965 01:14:31,450 --> 01:14:34,730 result, do I still have a viable edge? 966 01:14:35,090 --> 01:14:38,810 That's something that I always consider in my modeling or testing. 967 01:14:39,570 --> 01:14:44,490 Remove the biggest winner and conversely, I'll also look at removing 968 01:14:44,490 --> 01:14:50,770 loser because that could be perhaps a big gap or a big outlier that might not 969 01:14:50,770 --> 01:14:54,770 happen again. I just want to see that it works on both sides of that. 970 01:14:55,390 --> 01:15:02,310 So here is where we're talking about going with the reversal, and this 971 01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:04,690 is when things do get parabolic. 972 01:15:05,330 --> 01:15:09,110 So you can see a case here on these 10 -year notes. 973 01:15:09,930 --> 01:15:16,410 Can you believe we had almost 26 closes on one side of that five SMA? 974 01:15:16,590 --> 01:15:21,830 You can see how dangerous it is to try and pick a bottom. And even if you 975 01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:25,850 thought, oh, this is a selling climax here, it's so seductive. And then the 976 01:15:25,850 --> 01:15:27,910 day we spike right back up. 977 01:15:28,410 --> 01:15:33,610 But, no, there's still more to go. And trust me, we've all gotten caught in 978 01:15:33,610 --> 01:15:34,610 these traps. 979 01:15:34,690 --> 01:15:39,370 But it's just the power of the numbers. Here with the first close above. So now 980 01:15:39,370 --> 01:15:42,530 what happens if you went long on the first close above? 981 01:15:42,750 --> 01:15:46,930 And then, of course, we test exit day one, day two, day three, day four. And 982 01:15:46,930 --> 01:15:52,350 when something gets that overextended, then you can play a total countertrend 983 01:15:52,350 --> 01:15:53,350 game. 984 01:15:57,879 --> 01:16:02,940 Actually, you can see in stocks, you can see in futures, you can see in almost 985 01:16:02,940 --> 01:16:09,240 every single year examples of this. And it just keeps it open to the fact that 986 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:14,740 there's these radical occurrences that we don't normally see in the data. We're 987 01:16:14,740 --> 01:16:19,880 so used to seeing something that happens with a regular frequency that when we 988 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,200 do get, like, for example, the radical sell -off that we had at the end of the 989 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,810 year. You know, it rattles us just a little bit because we can't say, oh, it 990 01:16:28,810 --> 01:16:31,850 happened like this and this year, this year, this year, this year. 991 01:16:32,110 --> 01:16:37,470 So, therefore, the confidence, your confidence seems to be at a much lower 992 01:16:37,470 --> 01:16:43,270 level, right? Right? I mean, at least that's the way I work. And, of course, 993 01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:48,210 goes without saying that it's always obvious after the fact, right? So if I 994 01:16:48,210 --> 01:16:52,830 there and I only had the data up to this point, you'd just think, um. 995 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,080 I get to play with my pen again here. 996 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,200 It doesn't matter. 997 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,100 At this point... 998 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:12,540 You can't see what's coming. I mean, as a technician, you can draw trend lines 999 01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:13,840 and say there's a triangle. 1000 01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:19,380 You could even do some type of measured move. The width of the triangle might 1001 01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:24,040 project down to here. There's all kinds of things we can do to open our eyes, 1002 01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:28,300 and that's the importance of technical analysis too, such as point and figure 1003 01:17:28,300 --> 01:17:32,920 charts. Point and figure charts will give you the count or the sideways line 1004 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,040 that can give you a downside count. 1005 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:40,920 But remember, I said, things always go further than we think they will. And 1006 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,780 that's so important in trading and investing, just to be aware of risk. 1007 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:53,600 If I had to say that sums up the bulk of my experience after 39 years, it's that 1008 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:54,600 the market. 1009 01:17:55,080 --> 01:18:00,680 continues to surprise me every month, every year. I never know what's going to 1010 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:05,540 happen. And I just, it's like the more I've been in the markets, the more I 1011 01:18:05,540 --> 01:18:08,660 that I don't know if that makes sense. 1012 01:18:08,980 --> 01:18:14,000 That used to be Mike Epstein's favorite expression. 1013 01:18:14,890 --> 01:18:20,570 Maria Mulder, Mike Epstein was a longtime member of the Market 1014 01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:26,390 Association and APTA, and I actually have a whole chapter in the book 1015 01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:31,170 to him because he was sort of a surrogate father to me and told me all 1016 01:18:31,170 --> 01:18:32,170 amazing stories. 1017 01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:37,190 He started off on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange in 1950. 1018 01:18:39,260 --> 01:18:43,520 50 years on the trading floor. I don't know of anybody else that was on a 1019 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,680 trading floor for 50 years and had memberships to almost every exchange at 1020 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:55,940 point. And he ended up becoming the resident, what do 1021 01:18:55,940 --> 01:19:02,220 you call it, head of the department for MIT for their quantitative finance 1022 01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:04,500 quant lab. 1023 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,840 You know, he was there for eight years before he passed. 1024 01:19:12,730 --> 01:19:18,970 Last time I visited him was up in Boston, and he had been losing his 1025 01:19:18,970 --> 01:19:25,230 from diabetes, and he had this giant magnifying glass, I mean like 1026 01:19:25,230 --> 01:19:30,490 six inches across, and he's staring at his one monitor with this giant 1027 01:19:30,490 --> 01:19:34,870 magnifying glass so he could see something. And it was at that time that 1028 01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:36,990 bonds were just breaking out to the upside. 1029 01:19:37,790 --> 01:19:42,730 30 -year yields were dropping below 4 % for the first time in my lifetime at 1030 01:19:42,730 --> 01:19:49,110 least. And Mike said to me, I don't know why they're going up, but I'm long. 1031 01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:50,490 It's a breakout. 1032 01:19:51,330 --> 01:19:55,850 And it was a point like this with the triangle. Nobody could see that it was 1033 01:19:55,850 --> 01:20:02,070 going to go straight up, you know, for goodness knows, multiple, multiple 1034 01:20:02,570 --> 01:20:06,330 And I'm trying to get out of this pen mode so I can. 1035 01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:10,840 Advance to the next slide here. Any help? 1036 01:20:11,180 --> 01:20:15,340 Yes, of course. Yeah, just press the normal mode. 1037 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,280 Oh, normal mode. Okay, there we go. 1038 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:20,200 All righty. 1039 01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:26,060 So anyway, that was, to me, probably one of the best technicians and best 1040 01:20:26,060 --> 01:20:29,640 traders and most savvy market people I know. 1041 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:35,360 Mike Epstein, and here he is, long on a breakout, and he goes, I have no idea 1042 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:41,160 why it's doing what it's doing, but he was positioned in that direction, and 1043 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,240 that really struck a note with me. He goes, I have no idea where it's going to 1044 01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,740 go, but he was just along for the ride. 1045 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:52,620 Okay, here's another case of just a few silver SM. 1046 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:57,640 I wanted to show this just on one or two markets, and trust me, you will find 1047 01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:04,600 this equally well with stocks buying the retracement after you've had 1048 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:05,940 a persistency of trend. 1049 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:11,360 So you see there's two concepts here. We can have momentum concept where a 1050 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,820 market makes new momentum highs or lows, and it can do that in a very brief 1051 01:21:15,820 --> 01:21:16,820 period of time. 1052 01:21:17,130 --> 01:21:22,270 But then you also have a different concept relating to trend that's this 1053 01:21:22,270 --> 01:21:27,330 persistency of trend and how long it can sustain itself. 1054 01:21:27,930 --> 01:21:34,430 And as you know, the old saying goes, trends always have greater odds of 1055 01:21:34,430 --> 01:21:37,530 continuation than they do of reversal. 1056 01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:44,410 And then, of course, up at the very top, we had just gotten too overextended. 1057 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:51,540 price overlap here. That's the market coming into balance, and then it breaks 1058 01:21:51,540 --> 01:21:58,240 the downside and led to some more severe sell -offs. So this particular 1059 01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,940 model, these test results were done up to 2008. 1060 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:07,780 So the numbers, if I updated this, which I haven't been able to do because my 1061 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,060 The fellow that used to work for me put together all these grids. But the 1062 01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:16,720 numbers are about double what you'd see on here now just because the range is so 1063 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:17,659 much greater. 1064 01:22:17,660 --> 01:22:23,840 And that is if we had 19 closes on one side and then we initiated in the 1065 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:29,660 direction of the reversal and exited after one day, two day, three day, you 1066 01:22:29,660 --> 01:22:32,540 there's a window there of positive expectation. 1067 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,620 So that's a summary of some of the modeling work I do. 1068 01:22:37,860 --> 01:22:39,220 Where's the expectation? 1069 01:22:39,660 --> 01:22:41,060 Where's the positive expectation? 1070 01:22:41,780 --> 01:22:46,540 What does it tell us about the market? Does it tell us about the strength of 1071 01:22:46,540 --> 01:22:51,800 trend or the sustainability of the trend and so forth? Always asking these 1072 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,840 questions. Now, this is a different type of modeling because we were feeling 1073 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:02,560 pretty frisky. I had Nigel working for me for 10 years, and he was just a 1074 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,398 at using. 1075 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:09,200 all different types of software to model different things. And it started off by 1076 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:16,200 saying, okay, with the S &Ps, if we bracketed everything down into five 1077 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:22,460 windows, let's get the distribution of when the highs and the lows for the day 1078 01:23:22,460 --> 01:23:23,460 are made. 1079 01:23:23,540 --> 01:23:29,340 And interestingly enough, with the S &Ps, if you just looked at the pit 1080 01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:30,340 only, 1081 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,580 The best time of day for highs to be made would 1082 01:23:35,580 --> 01:23:40,700 be in the first 15 minutes. 1083 01:23:40,940 --> 01:23:47,600 So in other words, the market opened and pretty much broke on a number of days. 1084 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,380 Now, obviously, there's a distribution all across the days. It's just that this 1085 01:23:51,380 --> 01:23:54,020 was the data point that stuck out the most. 1086 01:23:54,580 --> 01:24:01,020 And for looking for the longs, when the lows were made, it most often fell. 1087 01:24:01,450 --> 01:24:03,430 30 minutes after the opening. 1088 01:24:03,730 --> 01:24:10,470 So what that tells me is that the short side is much more urgent. If a market 1089 01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:15,890 opens and it's going to make its highs for the day in that first hour, it's 1090 01:24:15,890 --> 01:24:18,570 more urgent right off that opening price. 1091 01:24:18,930 --> 01:24:25,390 Whereas if it's going to rally, it tends to form an initial balance first and 1092 01:24:25,390 --> 01:24:27,170 then break out to the upside. 1093 01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:32,900 Now, of course, things are a little bit different with the urgency nowadays with 1094 01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:38,020 the overnight gaps and stuff. But I took that idea and I said, well, this should 1095 01:24:38,020 --> 01:24:39,020 be fairly easy. 1096 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:46,540 Let's just model the whole 24 hours for every market and see where the time of 1097 01:24:46,540 --> 01:24:47,740 day is that we should trade. 1098 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,320 And when I did that, I got nothing. 1099 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,340 I didn't get anything at all. There was no. 1100 01:24:55,469 --> 01:24:59,430 prominent distribution point or something that would catch our 1101 01:24:59,430 --> 01:25:02,250 thinking, hmm, how could that be? That doesn't make sense. 1102 01:25:02,910 --> 01:25:09,550 But then when we broke it up into the market sessions, start of Asia, start 1103 01:25:09,550 --> 01:25:16,470 of Europe, start of the U .S. session, that's where we would see the spikes 1104 01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:20,250 would say when the highs or lows for the day most frequently occurred. 1105 01:25:21,370 --> 01:25:25,930 So you can see here when does a high occur most frequently in these markets. 1106 01:25:26,410 --> 01:25:28,290 And I've got gold, 1107 01:25:29,090 --> 01:25:34,050 the S &Ps, the EC, and the crude. I just took four markets here, and you can see 1108 01:25:34,050 --> 01:25:36,810 each of them are colored, but it shouldn't really matter. 1109 01:25:38,230 --> 01:25:44,550 And these spikes are when the highs are being made. So here's around Europe 1110 01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:47,670 open, and this is central time, by the way. 1111 01:25:48,370 --> 01:25:50,030 U .S. open here. 1112 01:25:50,879 --> 01:25:54,160 This is actually Europe close. 1113 01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:56,480 And then this is Asia open. 1114 01:25:58,300 --> 01:26:01,040 And same thing for when the lows are made. 1115 01:26:01,620 --> 01:26:06,060 So very often you see lows made in the middle of the day when Europe's closing 1116 01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:07,060 the end of the session. 1117 01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:13,440 And same thing, lows made right on Europe open, on U .S. session open, and 1118 01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:18,780 open. So what that tells us is any time that you have a fresh. 1119 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:24,560 new batch of new market participants entering that market or just sitting 1120 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,520 and looking at it, you tend to get a little bit more urgency, a lot more 1121 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:34,520 comes in at that period, and that's where truly if you were to do some type 1122 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,720 breakout strategy, you would want to organize it so that you were doing 1123 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:45,280 breakouts from that early session, from the Asia session open or the Europe 1124 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,280 session open. 1125 01:26:46,590 --> 01:26:51,650 or the U .S. session open. And I just thought that was really insightful, how 1126 01:26:51,650 --> 01:26:58,630 important it is for us to be prepared at the start of the trading day, because 1127 01:26:58,630 --> 01:27:00,270 that's when the opportunity is. 1128 01:27:01,650 --> 01:27:03,330 Hold on one second here. 1129 01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:16,950 Okay, this next model was some Bollinger Band work, looking at standard 1130 01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:21,930 deviations. And even though this table is way out of date, I wanted to show you 1131 01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:28,330 some things that were very insightful about the price behavior because we did 1132 01:27:28,330 --> 01:27:34,090 lot of modeling time of day that we could do counter trend trades and 1133 01:27:34,090 --> 01:27:37,710 days of the week that we could do counter trend trades. 1134 01:27:38,349 --> 01:27:42,430 So all we did here was take a five -minute S &P chart. 1135 01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:47,490 And by the way, this is a concept that will hold true for many different 1136 01:27:47,490 --> 01:27:52,370 markets. But we took a five -minute S &P chart, and all we did was say if it 1137 01:27:52,370 --> 01:27:58,910 hits the Bollinger Band, which is two standard deviations centered around the 1138 01:27:58,910 --> 01:28:00,750 20 -period moving average, 1139 01:28:01,580 --> 01:28:06,060 If we took that first trade and then exited when it came back to the moving 1140 01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:09,840 average. So it's a reversion to the mean type of program. 1141 01:28:10,060 --> 01:28:14,080 We don't have any filters on this at all. It could be any type of day, and 1142 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,320 the reversion to the mean type of thing. 1143 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:20,780 And you'll see right here there's definitely a positive expectation, 1144 01:28:20,780 --> 01:28:25,360 you would not do blindly on a mechanical basis because obviously you could have 1145 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:30,540 a day like today that just opened and trended or yesterday opened and trended 1146 01:28:30,540 --> 01:28:31,540 the Russell. 1147 01:28:31,620 --> 01:28:37,920 But what was interesting was it only worked in the morning. It didn't work in 1148 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:38,920 the afternoon. 1149 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:44,240 So what that tells us is that there's the most uncertainty in the morning as 1150 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:48,820 well, and that's where you can start to get a little bit more testing and 1151 01:28:48,820 --> 01:28:54,440 rotations in the opening session, and also why you don't want to fade a trend 1152 01:28:54,440 --> 01:29:00,520 that happens after 12 noon. It's very a low -odd type of trade. 1153 01:29:01,150 --> 01:29:05,830 So if you like to do counter trend trades, look for it early in the 1154 01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:10,910 the morning session before lunch. And you can see it's a fairly hefty win rate 1155 01:29:10,910 --> 01:29:11,910 here. 1156 01:29:12,130 --> 01:29:17,210 And somehow it manages to eke out a profit, even though you know it probably 1157 01:29:17,210 --> 01:29:19,990 smacked on some trend days as well, right? 1158 01:29:20,370 --> 01:29:26,270 And also what was interesting is that it worked better for the end of the week. 1159 01:29:26,330 --> 01:29:29,750 So we find that the P &L. 1160 01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:34,550 radically went up on a Friday, and that was because Fridays tend to have 1161 01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:35,870 narrower ranges. 1162 01:29:36,550 --> 01:29:38,030 There's not that urgency. 1163 01:29:38,860 --> 01:29:43,920 that you would find at the opening of the market or the opening of the week, 1164 01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,920 start of the week, you know, where you can get a much more urgent market, which 1165 01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,480 could run over a counter trend trade. 1166 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:54,040 Whereas on Friday, pretty much we know where the ranges were for the week, and 1167 01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,840 it's going to back and fill and test a little bit more. And so that I also 1168 01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:02,580 thought was a very interesting observation, and that still holds true. 1169 01:30:04,060 --> 01:30:05,860 So this is... 1170 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,160 I know that you'll have the slides, and I don't want to spend too much time 1171 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:16,820 reading every slide, but this was very important for us in doing our 1172 01:30:16,820 --> 01:30:20,700 modeling. I need to have at least five or ten years of data. 1173 01:30:21,340 --> 01:30:26,360 And I want to see a consistent equity curve. I don't want a system or a model 1174 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,740 that was distorted because it had two exceptional years. 1175 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:36,500 You know, I can't base an S &P trading system off of 2009 volatility because 1176 01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:39,120 I'll never be able to duplicate those results again. 1177 01:30:39,540 --> 01:30:43,820 You know, same thing with trend -following systems. You need to make 1178 01:30:43,820 --> 01:30:47,020 it's over a very long, long duration. 1179 01:30:48,110 --> 01:30:54,590 And then the second thing, too, is if you are looking at a system, don't take 1180 01:30:54,590 --> 01:30:58,630 for granted that you're getting filled where your system says that it would. So 1181 01:30:58,630 --> 01:31:03,750 when I look at the results, I know that I'm probably not going to be able to 1182 01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:05,690 match that in my real -time trading. 1183 01:31:05,970 --> 01:31:08,850 It's just that way that it works out. 1184 01:31:10,250 --> 01:31:13,030 So these are just some other little tips. 1185 01:31:16,570 --> 01:31:21,130 win -loss ratio, by George, that's got to be fabulous to trade on a mechanical 1186 01:31:21,130 --> 01:31:27,930 basis. But an 80 % win -loss ratio can have six losers in a row. So can you 1187 01:31:27,930 --> 01:31:29,150 tolerate that? 1188 01:31:30,270 --> 01:31:37,230 Okay, here's another fun trade because we still do this every day, 1189 01:31:37,370 --> 01:31:41,930 just about every day. It doesn't mean that we do it mechanically, but this was 1190 01:31:41,930 --> 01:31:43,490 gap strategy. 1191 01:31:44,510 --> 01:31:49,050 This also is a story in the book about this gentleman. 1192 01:31:49,310 --> 01:31:52,790 I will give him the name of Genghis because that's what he called himself. 1193 01:31:53,710 --> 01:31:58,190 He came to work for me, and I told him he could trade for himself. 1194 01:31:59,010 --> 01:32:04,990 Right away, he's initiating trades, counter -trend trades on the gap up or 1195 01:32:04,990 --> 01:32:05,909 gap down. 1196 01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:08,250 I said, Genghis, what are you doing? 1197 01:32:08,530 --> 01:32:10,630 He said, I'm doing the burning dog. 1198 01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:12,850 I said, what do you mean the burning dog? 1199 01:32:13,090 --> 01:32:14,090 He says, 1200 01:32:14,510 --> 01:32:17,190 well, have you ever tried to pet a burning dog? 1201 01:32:17,470 --> 01:32:21,330 And I'm like, no, that was a terrible concept. So it was the thing that when 1202 01:32:21,330 --> 01:32:26,090 there was a large gap at that time, it was so shook up people that nobody 1203 01:32:26,090 --> 01:32:30,210 wanted to touch it. And he was blindly fading these things. And I said, you 1204 01:32:30,210 --> 01:32:35,650 can't do that, you know, because your risk is high. We need to model this and 1205 01:32:35,650 --> 01:32:37,770 see what the actual statistics are. 1206 01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:43,200 So here's the way it pans out. And keep in mind that this was just using a 1207 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:49,180 generic four points, which obviously means nothing in 2009 when the average 1208 01:32:49,180 --> 01:32:50,180 range was huge. 1209 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,940 But these are good gap rules. They're good gap rules for stocks. 1210 01:32:54,300 --> 01:32:59,820 They're good gap rules for pit session openings. Good gap rules in general. 1211 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,560 And the trick with the gap is that the first play. 1212 01:33:05,809 --> 01:33:11,190 should be to trade back into the gap within two hours. Okay, that's what the 1213 01:33:11,190 --> 01:33:15,790 most probable thing to do would be. So we always looked at if you took the 1214 01:33:15,790 --> 01:33:22,330 opening price, can we get four points back into the gap if that gap 1215 01:33:22,330 --> 01:33:24,130 was greater than four points? 1216 01:33:24,350 --> 01:33:29,190 That sounds pretty simple. Market gaps up more than four points. Can we trade 1217 01:33:29,190 --> 01:33:30,590 into the gap by four points? 1218 01:33:31,090 --> 01:33:32,490 And we found that. 1219 01:33:32,910 --> 01:33:39,830 pretty much you get about a 70 % win rate if you played that game. 1220 01:33:39,950 --> 01:33:46,690 Some years it's been 76%, some years it's been 68%, but pretty much 75 % 1221 01:33:46,690 --> 01:33:50,770 of the time you will trade back into that gap by four points. 1222 01:33:51,460 --> 01:33:55,140 Okay, so that's a good start. That means that if the market gaps up, you want to 1223 01:33:55,140 --> 01:33:58,820 tape read it for just a little bit and then see if you get your trade back into 1224 01:33:58,820 --> 01:33:59,559 the gap. 1225 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:04,740 Same thing with stocks. You know, the first thing that if it stock gaps, we 1226 01:34:04,740 --> 01:34:07,540 to see if it trades back into the gap by a little bit. 1227 01:34:08,380 --> 01:34:14,980 But then we said, well, what happens if you don't get your gap filled? 1228 01:34:15,580 --> 01:34:17,580 And what we found is that. 1229 01:34:18,190 --> 01:34:23,010 If you didn't get your trade into the gap of four points, that meant greater 1230 01:34:23,010 --> 01:34:26,550 odds that you would then trade in the direction of the original gap. 1231 01:34:26,770 --> 01:34:28,570 Well, that makes total sense, right? 1232 01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:34,730 So what we do now is if the market gaps by more than four points and it doesn't 1233 01:34:34,730 --> 01:34:38,950 trade into that gap by four points, we're going to be very aggressive about 1234 01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:43,290 looking to trade in the direction of the trend in that afternoon session. 1235 01:34:43,890 --> 01:34:45,130 It held its gap. 1236 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,000 A breakaway gap can gap and trend. 1237 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:53,560 And so same thing with stocks. I know that a lot of you are stock traders, and 1238 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,660 you're probably pretty familiar with the fact that if a stock gaps up and it 1239 01:34:57,660 --> 01:35:04,200 does not trade much into the gap, in the next three days you have greater odds 1240 01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,040 of going out another week in the direction of the original gap. 1241 01:35:08,340 --> 01:35:11,800 So those can be really powerful gaps if a stock doesn't. 1242 01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:17,320 to make attempt to fill that gap within the next three or four trading days. You 1243 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,340 want to be positioned in the direction of that gap. 1244 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:26,440 So this was just kind of cool. This is how we modeled the table. I know it just 1245 01:35:26,440 --> 01:35:31,140 looks like a bunch of numbers and stuff, but the fact of the matter is this just 1246 01:35:31,140 --> 01:35:36,500 showed like every 15 minutes, every five minutes where the inflection point was, 1247 01:35:36,540 --> 01:35:41,120 and we pretty much came to the fact that One o 'clock right here, one o 'clock 1248 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:47,060 was where you would want to go in the direction of the gap should you do that. 1249 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:52,080 So days of the week. Lastly, days of the weeks. 1250 01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:56,600 We wanted to see if there are certain days that are trendier than others. And 1251 01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:01,880 already mentioned this, that Friday tends to be the least trendy day of the 1252 01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:08,730 week. And this was, again, just a very generic, generic Bollinger Band type of 1253 01:36:08,730 --> 01:36:15,510 model. And when I say this type of testing, we usually do like 500 sample 1254 01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:21,330 size, you know. So it doesn't look like anything when you look at the P &L, 1255 01:36:21,450 --> 01:36:23,230 okay. That's not the point. 1256 01:36:23,450 --> 01:36:24,790 But the point is that. 1257 01:36:25,340 --> 01:36:30,740 In general, Mondays and Tuesdays were the worst days to sit there and look for 1258 01:36:30,740 --> 01:36:35,540 counter trend trades. They actually tended to be the trendiest days of the 1259 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:41,540 Mondays and Tuesdays. And then you can see here it totally dropped off at the 1260 01:36:41,540 --> 01:36:42,540 end of the week. 1261 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,420 I'm not quite sure why these are. 1262 01:36:47,020 --> 01:36:50,300 Here was my table that was supposed to be in here. 1263 01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:56,800 when we made those new momentum highs and momentum lows on the two -period 1264 01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:01,400 of change. I know you're all going to have these slides, so you can go back 1265 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:06,480 I'll make sure that this is in the proper order then when I give them to 1266 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:13,400 But the bonds, 90 % of the time that you make a new momentum high or low, you 1267 01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:17,280 then follow through and get higher prices. 1268 01:37:19,770 --> 01:37:24,910 also was an important eye -opener to me, divergences, because divergences are 1269 01:37:24,910 --> 01:37:26,390 really seductive, right? 1270 01:37:26,670 --> 01:37:32,110 I mean, they look so easy to recognize as a pattern, and we did a pretty darn 1271 01:37:32,110 --> 01:37:37,910 good job of programming in a divergence into the computer, and you all know what 1272 01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:42,110 they are, where the price makes a higher high, and an oscillator or a momentum 1273 01:37:42,110 --> 01:37:48,090 function makes a lower high, and so we wanted to see what happened if the 1274 01:37:48,090 --> 01:37:54,740 divergence didn't work, and if the divergence did work, how long was the 1275 01:37:54,740 --> 01:37:56,660 average trade in duration? 1276 01:37:56,940 --> 01:38:01,980 Okay, so these are all the little statistics that we used to program it. 1277 01:38:01,980 --> 01:38:08,820 what we found out is that when a divergence fails, okay, really 1278 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:14,960 when a divergence fails, it can go four to five ATRs against you. 1279 01:38:15,550 --> 01:38:19,490 And it continued to move for 15 bars against you. 1280 01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:26,190 So what that tells you is that you darn well better need a stop in place if 1281 01:38:26,190 --> 01:38:30,490 you're making a counter trend momentum trade, thinking that there's a 1282 01:38:30,490 --> 01:38:36,950 divergence. And when it does work, it tends to hit that moving average within 1283 01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:38,590 four to seven bars. 1284 01:38:39,110 --> 01:38:43,710 So if you don't show a profit after four to seven bars, you want to get out. 1285 01:38:44,650 --> 01:38:49,050 Because then if it takes you out, it's going to go 15 bars against you, you 1286 01:38:49,190 --> 01:38:53,350 So divergences are seductive, but we don't look at all the times that the 1287 01:38:53,350 --> 01:38:54,810 divergences fail. 1288 01:38:55,110 --> 01:39:00,110 And one of the cases where a divergence fails is when the higher time frame 1289 01:39:00,110 --> 01:39:02,810 momentum is just too strong. 1290 01:39:03,290 --> 01:39:09,370 For example, it might look like there's a daily cell divergence, but if the 1291 01:39:09,370 --> 01:39:11,790 weekly charts are making new momentum highs, 1292 01:39:12,910 --> 01:39:17,830 It can totally run over those momentum divergences on the dailies. And I know 1293 01:39:17,830 --> 01:39:23,410 for those of you that trade on shorter time frames, hourly charts, five -minute 1294 01:39:23,410 --> 01:39:28,310 charts, what happens when there's a five -minute buy divergence that fails to 1295 01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:29,310 yield anything? 1296 01:39:29,650 --> 01:39:33,590 It's going to get crushed because those hourlies are in a free fall to the 1297 01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:39,950 downside. So always check your higher time frame to put it back into context. 1298 01:39:40,010 --> 01:39:43,480 That context is... So important. 1299 01:39:43,780 --> 01:39:48,900 And this was the average bars in a winning trade when there was these 1300 01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:53,520 divergences. This is a prior period of history, but it still holds true. 1301 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:58,400 So your average bars in a winning trade were just six or seven bars. 1302 01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:04,060 And then if it was a losing trade, which meant that you shorted and you had to 1303 01:40:04,060 --> 01:40:09,820 hold until it hit that moving average, how many times has anybody said, well, 1304 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,460 I'm going to get out when it retraces back to the moving average. 1305 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:20,880 Don't say that because you can see how many bars it can go against you. That is 1306 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:21,880 a trap. 1307 01:40:22,660 --> 01:40:28,480 Okay, lastly, we're coming down to the system that I was telling you about that 1308 01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:31,540 tells us how noisy markets can go. 1309 01:40:31,820 --> 01:40:37,400 And this is an ADX is something that measures the amount of bar overlap. 1310 01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:42,320 So if we have a really low ADX, there's usually a chart formation. 1311 01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,700 It could be a big, long triangle or a big, long rectangle. 1312 01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:51,420 And we initially thought, hey, this is a piece of cake. Let's just look for the 1313 01:40:51,420 --> 01:40:56,200 low ADXs, and we'll take a break out on the 20 -day high or the 20 -day low. 1314 01:40:56,300 --> 01:40:59,520 That would make sense if you're looking to do a trend -following system, right? 1315 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,680 Wrong, because the results got too many whip thoughts. 1316 01:41:05,819 --> 01:41:09,940 So here's some of the results for the low win rate. 1317 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:16,500 When we had a low ADX and we're taking the breakout of the 20 -day high or low, 1318 01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:18,380 look at the percent profitable. 1319 01:41:19,140 --> 01:41:20,140 That's terrible. 1320 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,460 You wouldn't think that it would be that case. 1321 01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:29,240 But yet, if we took it only when the market had already come to life and then 1322 01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,740 we're taking the breakout of a new 20 -day high or 20 -day low, 1323 01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,480 Look at how the profit potential jumps way up. 1324 01:41:37,860 --> 01:41:40,780 Isn't that crazy? It's very counterintuitive. 1325 01:41:41,140 --> 01:41:44,860 That doesn't mean you're going to create a mechanical system out of it, per se, 1326 01:41:44,980 --> 01:41:48,940 because you can see the times that it doesn't work. Mind you, we're not using 1327 01:41:48,940 --> 01:41:52,140 any stops on this, so you can get smacked on a loser. 1328 01:41:52,740 --> 01:41:57,500 But I just wanted to show a dramatic difference in getting off to the correct 1329 01:41:57,500 --> 01:41:58,500 start. 1330 01:41:59,140 --> 01:42:04,250 So just to sum up what the models have showed us, They've showed us the 1331 01:42:04,250 --> 01:42:08,630 importance of the new momentum as just measured by raw momentum. 1332 01:42:09,550 --> 01:42:14,650 They've showed us that if you are going to use momentum, use it with price, too. 1333 01:42:14,770 --> 01:42:19,910 You need to make new momentum highs and new price, and then your odds of having 1334 01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:22,370 a winning trade are phenomenally higher. 1335 01:42:23,190 --> 01:42:29,350 In addition to the momentum, we can use persistency of trend because trends go 1336 01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:32,190 on longer than we think they will. 1337 01:42:32,650 --> 01:42:36,650 And they go to further extremes than we think they will. 1338 01:42:36,930 --> 01:42:43,670 And even if we did the hardest trade possible to enter after it's had 10 1339 01:42:43,670 --> 01:42:47,730 on one side of a moving average, you'll still show profitability. 1340 01:42:48,370 --> 01:42:53,750 If you did that across a basket of 20 markets for a full year, you would be 1341 01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:54,750 to make a living. 1342 01:42:55,310 --> 01:42:59,430 Your stomach might churn because the drawdowns and the volatility is pretty 1343 01:42:59,430 --> 01:43:03,030 high, but it's just the power of that persistency of trend. 1344 01:43:03,470 --> 01:43:08,890 And then, of course, if you do have a good trend intact, the retracement 1345 01:43:09,110 --> 01:43:12,850 there's all kinds of gimmicky, simple little ways to quantify retracement 1346 01:43:12,850 --> 01:43:14,690 trades. You can use RSI. 1347 01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:16,110 You can use momentum. 1348 01:43:16,350 --> 01:43:17,950 You can use two -period rate of change. 1349 01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:20,910 All kinds of fun little games that you can play. 1350 01:43:21,420 --> 01:43:27,020 But we have to put it into context first because you don't want to be taking a 1351 01:43:27,020 --> 01:43:28,740 flag after you've. 1352 01:43:29,020 --> 01:43:32,160 just made a divergence, that will usually be a false signal. 1353 01:43:32,700 --> 01:43:36,700 You have to be careful if you've just had three winning flags not to take the 1354 01:43:36,700 --> 01:43:41,420 fourth one. I know what I'm saying is common sense, but these are still all 1355 01:43:41,420 --> 01:43:46,180 different things that we could model. The time of day functions, how important 1356 01:43:46,180 --> 01:43:50,600 it is, the start of the week, the start of the month, the start of the day, 1357 01:43:50,740 --> 01:43:53,980 that's where you have your most opportunity. 1358 01:43:54,800 --> 01:44:00,860 your biggest supply -demand imbalance, the testing and the volatility tends to 1359 01:44:00,860 --> 01:44:04,340 be a little bit bigger around the first of the month than it does in the middle 1360 01:44:04,340 --> 01:44:05,059 of the month. 1361 01:44:05,060 --> 01:44:06,440 It's just that way. 1362 01:44:07,900 --> 01:44:14,840 So let me go back, and I've got – I left lots of time for questions here, 1363 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,020 and I'm just trying to – 1364 01:44:17,020 --> 01:44:22,320 okay. 1365 01:44:23,690 --> 01:44:27,950 I'm trying to get back to an interesting slide here so I can – there we go. 1366 01:44:30,190 --> 01:44:31,190 All right. 1367 01:44:34,210 --> 01:44:37,850 And I have all the time in the world here. 1368 01:44:38,850 --> 01:44:42,170 Well, Linda, first of all, I think this was a great start. 1369 01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:48,430 And let me give you a breather a little bit here, and let me address some of the 1370 01:44:48,430 --> 01:44:51,430 points that you made here and convert them. 1371 01:44:51,950 --> 01:44:54,070 A little bit into our Wyckoff understanding. 1372 01:44:54,390 --> 01:45:01,170 Well, first of all, Wyckoff method sometimes could be confused as there is, 1373 01:45:01,170 --> 01:45:04,670 know, obviously a specific structure that the market has to follow. 1374 01:45:06,250 --> 01:45:07,550 Obviously a misconception. 1375 01:45:08,170 --> 01:45:14,790 And I would say that the Wyckoff method is more of the reaction, our reaction to 1376 01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:18,990 the market and how the price volume and momentum signatures develop. 1377 01:45:19,390 --> 01:45:21,290 So just think about this, guys. 1378 01:45:22,740 --> 01:45:28,380 Linda is talking about how a linear approach is not necessarily going to be 1379 01:45:28,380 --> 01:45:29,380 most profitable. 1380 01:45:29,940 --> 01:45:36,480 So therefore, reacting to how the market develops, understanding the context 1381 01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:40,620 of the signal of where it occurs is extremely important to us. 1382 01:45:41,020 --> 01:45:47,000 And it seems like we're coming from the same belief, from the same thought, 1383 01:45:47,260 --> 01:45:50,700 that if we see the signal, we need to understand the context. 1384 01:45:51,130 --> 01:45:54,050 And obviously, we're using Weikert's method for the context. 1385 01:45:54,790 --> 01:45:58,590 Alternation of state, that's the change of the environment. 1386 01:45:58,890 --> 01:46:04,510 We usually, in Weikert's methodology, would be looking for counter moves with 1387 01:46:04,510 --> 01:46:08,550 specific price, volume, momentum characteristics that are going to give 1388 01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:14,060 idea that a current environment... and we are most likely from a trending 1389 01:46:14,060 --> 01:46:16,760 environment going to a non -trending environment. 1390 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:22,400 And then vice versa, from a consolidation, we might exhibit certain 1391 01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:28,300 momentum characteristics that will identify for us a momentum push out of 1392 01:46:28,300 --> 01:46:31,700 consolidation formation, and that could begin the trend. 1393 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,900 Linda talked about using multiple timeframes. 1394 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:41,440 and how many times have we talked about this in the classes of looking at the 1395 01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:45,600 daily chart, but looking at the weekly chart and understanding the higher time 1396 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:50,240 frame, what is happening on the daily within the context of the weekly chart, 1397 01:46:50,440 --> 01:46:55,300 what is happening on the daily or on the intranet within the context of the 1398 01:46:55,300 --> 01:46:56,300 daily. 1399 01:46:56,480 --> 01:47:02,060 I absolutely love the idea of the persistency of the trend. 1400 01:47:02,590 --> 01:47:07,730 Think about where persistency is going to be most sustainable. 1401 01:47:08,150 --> 01:47:14,510 We see from the stock market off the lows in 2009, in 2010, 1402 01:47:14,990 --> 01:47:21,310 11, 12, 15, 16, and then 1403 01:47:21,310 --> 01:47:27,030 to the downside as well. We're seeing the first wave of momentum. 1404 01:47:28,750 --> 01:47:33,170 give us an indication of the institutional buying because it's the 1405 01:47:33,170 --> 01:47:39,170 institutional buying of the lows, of the points of value and liquidity within 1406 01:47:39,170 --> 01:47:45,490 the structure of the much longer time frame of a secular and cyclical 1407 01:47:45,820 --> 01:47:49,460 let's say bull market, those are going to be the spots where institutions are 1408 01:47:49,460 --> 01:47:52,820 going to be most interested. They're going to buy, and that's going to 1409 01:47:52,820 --> 01:47:55,700 that initial momentum and sustainability of the trend. 1410 01:47:55,920 --> 01:48:00,500 So a very interesting idea there. Also, we have to think about the persistence 1411 01:48:00,500 --> 01:48:02,900 of the trend in the speculative environment. 1412 01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:07,040 For instance, 2017, where we had a run -up to the upside. 1413 01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:10,360 That would be that example that Linda was describing. 1414 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:15,640 where the trend is so persistent and sustainable on a short -term basis. 1415 01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:22,920 Gap strategies, so the next three days after the gap, such a great 1416 01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:28,980 quantifiable way how Linda showed us how a 1417 01:48:28,980 --> 01:48:35,470 test... after the gap, if sustainable at the same price 1418 01:48:35,470 --> 01:48:39,550 closer to the gap, would most likely indicate a continuation. 1419 01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:46,630 Why? Well, because we always see on the gap a point of liquidity where a mean 1420 01:48:46,630 --> 01:48:51,990 reversion trade comes with professional traders. They start shorting into that. 1421 01:48:52,050 --> 01:48:57,330 So that's a burning dog, I believe. That was the strategy. That was the name. 1422 01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:02,060 And that's going to create that short -term weakness. It's very logical for 1423 01:49:02,060 --> 01:49:07,320 professionals to do that mean reversion trade because of how price quickly moves 1424 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:12,960 to the short -term oversold, overbought area. 1425 01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:19,500 So if supply is being observed at that level, then most likely we're going to 1426 01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:20,500 have a continuation. 1427 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:25,100 What else here? 1428 01:49:25,700 --> 01:49:26,700 Persistence institution. 1429 01:49:26,860 --> 01:49:27,860 Okay. 1430 01:49:28,940 --> 01:49:32,280 Yeah, I thought that was great, Linda. Such a great start. 1431 01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:37,180 And by the way, guys, let us know what kind of questions you have for Linda. 1432 01:49:37,420 --> 01:49:44,380 Linda, while our listeners are thinking about their questions, let me ask you a 1433 01:49:44,380 --> 01:49:47,820 question that is maybe less related to trading. 1434 01:49:48,270 --> 01:49:51,730 but more related to your book and your relationship with other people in the 1435 01:49:51,730 --> 01:49:52,730 field. 1436 01:49:52,890 --> 01:49:59,790 Obviously, I came out of the Golden Gate University, and my first teacher and my 1437 01:49:59,790 --> 01:50:03,190 big mentor in life in general was Hank Pruden. 1438 01:50:03,630 --> 01:50:10,010 Unfortunately, Hank has passed away in 2017 in August. Such a big loss for our 1439 01:50:10,010 --> 01:50:14,930 local community here in Bay Area, for Golden Gate University, specifically for 1440 01:50:14,930 --> 01:50:19,910 TFASF. a local technical analysis organization here in San Francisco. 1441 01:50:21,030 --> 01:50:27,610 And for a lot of other organizations, Hank has belonged to MTA, to APTA, to 1442 01:50:27,610 --> 01:50:33,030 IFTA. Linda, I want to ask, what was your relationship with Hank? How did you 1443 01:50:33,030 --> 01:50:39,650 meet? And he was a very fascinating person, and I wonder what kind of 1444 01:50:39,650 --> 01:50:44,390 personal experiences where you would say that you've benefited. 1445 01:50:45,070 --> 01:50:46,070 from knowing Hank. 1446 01:50:47,630 --> 01:50:54,370 I first met Hank, I think it was in 1992 maybe, 91, maybe 91, 1447 01:50:54,710 --> 01:50:58,970 at the Santa Barbara Conference held by the Market Technicians Association. 1448 01:50:59,470 --> 01:51:03,990 In those days, the institutions would pay for the analysts to have these 1449 01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:10,250 wonderful conference experiences and weekends, and unfortunately they stopped 1450 01:51:10,250 --> 01:51:15,930 doing that a decade ago, paying for these expensive trips. But it was a 1451 01:51:15,930 --> 01:51:22,510 gathering. of prominent people in the industry like Ralph Acampora and 1452 01:51:22,510 --> 01:51:28,150 names like that that I met there. And Hank gave a lecture which particularly 1453 01:51:28,150 --> 01:51:35,010 made an impression on me about the importance of doing your own homework 1454 01:51:35,010 --> 01:51:37,590 a closed window and a closed door. 1455 01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:42,610 In other words, no outside distractions. And I think that he actually borrowed 1456 01:51:42,610 --> 01:51:45,850 this from Wyckoff or one of the... 1457 01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:52,020 tapes, the Evans tapes, I'm not sure exactly, but I did read it somewhere 1458 01:51:52,060 --> 01:51:57,300 about the importance of doing your own analysis without any other influences, 1459 01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:03,240 and then you will do your own best work. And then he always said, you are your 1460 01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:04,400 own best client. 1461 01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:08,700 In other words, you're not thinking about other people. You're doing this 1462 01:52:08,700 --> 01:52:11,280 yourself and accountability to yourself. 1463 01:52:11,500 --> 01:52:13,360 So you are your own best client. 1464 01:52:13,660 --> 01:52:17,280 And that stuck with me through all these years, you know, the importance of 1465 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:22,180 always doing your own work and safeguarding that you wouldn't be biased 1466 01:52:22,180 --> 01:52:26,360 you heard on TV or blogs or other people's work and let that influence 1467 01:52:27,260 --> 01:52:31,100 With that said, I know Hank and I became pretty good friends because my mom 1468 01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:33,900 lived in the Bay Area, still does. 1469 01:52:34,570 --> 01:52:39,910 And so every time I would go out to San Francisco, often Hank had me speak at 1470 01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:44,750 his, I don't remember what they used to call them. I guess they were. 1471 01:52:45,740 --> 01:52:50,220 I guess it was the Technical Society there. The San Francisco Technical 1472 01:52:50,220 --> 01:52:53,280 used to, or maybe they still do, put on conferences. 1473 01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,940 And that was a very, very popular organization. 1474 01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:02,920 So I would go out there to speak for them. And I remember Hank and his lovely 1475 01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:08,520 wife and my mom and I would go out to dinner several times. And just, you 1476 01:53:08,540 --> 01:53:12,660 always seeing each other through the years, through these conferences and MTA 1477 01:53:12,660 --> 01:53:14,820 and IFTA conferences. 1478 01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,560 And, you know, he was always upbeat. 1479 01:53:18,820 --> 01:53:23,920 You know, I would always go to any lecture he gave that was, you know, at a 1480 01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:24,920 conference. 1481 01:53:25,700 --> 01:53:29,840 And he did quite a lot of writing too. I think it's very heartwarming that so 1482 01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,720 much of his writing is still online. You can go and read it. 1483 01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:41,740 But, yeah, his upbeat attitude and his enthusiasm, you know, every time 1484 01:53:41,740 --> 01:53:47,060 he would talk, I can still picture his round cheeks and sparkling eyes and the 1485 01:53:47,060 --> 01:53:48,540 way he would talk and be animated. 1486 01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:53,020 It just made it so much fun talking about any subject, you know, as it is 1487 01:53:53,020 --> 01:53:55,900 you talk with somebody that has such enthusiasm for it. 1488 01:53:56,780 --> 01:54:02,780 Yeah, that sounds exactly like Hank Linda. So thank you for remembering him 1489 01:54:02,780 --> 01:54:07,060 that. A couple of questions that we have here. One is from Mark. 1490 01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:11,460 Linda referenced a book by Peter Stadelmayer. 1491 01:54:12,180 --> 01:54:18,520 What was the name of the book? And I believe this is Stadelmayer on market 1492 01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:19,980 trading with market profile. 1493 01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:26,100 Yeah, but he just was the one that originated the concept. He was not the 1494 01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:31,240 communicator. And the book that I would really recommend is Jim Dalton's book. 1495 01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:36,580 that is called Mind Over Markets. And in fact, this particular book, Mind Over 1496 01:54:36,580 --> 01:54:41,540 Markets, I remember it was kind of considered the Bible for some prop shops 1497 01:54:41,540 --> 01:54:46,020 down, there was a large chain of prop shops, and this was sort of their Bible. 1498 01:54:46,220 --> 01:54:52,540 Because in it, in particular, just the first 40 pages, the essence of it, he 1499 01:54:52,540 --> 01:54:53,880 really described... 1500 01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:59,700 basically six or seven types of action that tend to unfold off of the opening 1501 01:54:59,700 --> 01:55:05,580 price. And then if that was going to lead to a normal type of day or some of 1502 01:55:05,580 --> 01:55:10,620 these profile terms, a double distribution day or a trend day. And in 1503 01:55:10,620 --> 01:55:16,370 particular, what struck me was this concept of open, test, reject, or open, 1504 01:55:16,530 --> 01:55:21,150 trend, or open, perhaps it's the day before an FOMC day and there's not the 1505 01:55:21,150 --> 01:55:24,550 volume there and everybody's on the sidelines, then you're going to just 1506 01:55:24,550 --> 01:55:30,930 and kind of rotate around in noisy nothingness. And it really did a great 1507 01:55:30,930 --> 01:55:36,310 conceptually capturing the type of action and the implications for the 1508 01:55:36,310 --> 01:55:37,790 in that first hour of trading. 1509 01:55:39,660 --> 01:55:45,500 John is asking, is the quantitative modeling used for confirmation or system 1510 01:55:45,500 --> 01:55:46,500 generation? 1511 01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:50,700 Well, okay, 1512 01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:58,680 you mean non -confirmation between two markets? I don't really do any of that 1513 01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:00,280 on a quantitative basis. 1514 01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:07,000 You know, I've done a lot of modeling with correlation studies. Steve Moore 1515 01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:09,060 excellent at that, still is. 1516 01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,880 And what we find is that you can find... 1517 01:56:13,230 --> 01:56:15,570 to markets that are highly correlated. 1518 01:56:16,570 --> 01:56:21,910 For example, the yen and the bonds have had periods where they're very highly 1519 01:56:21,910 --> 01:56:26,170 correlated, but that might only last for a year and a half, and then they can be 1520 01:56:26,170 --> 01:56:27,630 totally inversely correlated. 1521 01:56:27,970 --> 01:56:32,730 I mean, just like what we saw happen with the bonds and equities all through 1522 01:56:32,730 --> 01:56:37,950 80s when I was first trading, and basically the 90s, they were... 1523 01:56:37,950 --> 01:56:42,770 correlated. And I used to be able to make trades in the afternoon, the last 1524 01:56:42,770 --> 01:56:47,570 of the day, where, say, for example, the S &P would make a lower low, but the 1525 01:56:47,570 --> 01:56:51,130 bonds would make a higher low, and that was a buy signal. And you could do that 1526 01:56:51,130 --> 01:56:55,830 just as you would now with the divergence between the NASDAQ and the S 1527 01:56:56,250 --> 01:57:00,550 But then, of course, you saw that whole relationship change, you know, when we 1528 01:57:00,550 --> 01:57:06,240 first got a whiff of... perhaps a deflationary type of sentiment out there 1529 01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:10,940 opposed to the inflationary sentiment. So the correlations change, and that's 1530 01:57:10,940 --> 01:57:15,220 why it's difficult to really quantify anything like that between two separate 1531 01:57:15,220 --> 01:57:20,420 markets. Other than that, the only type of non -confirmation that we have 1532 01:57:20,420 --> 01:57:26,400 modeled is just a pure momentum function, an indicator versus the price. 1533 01:57:28,340 --> 01:57:32,400 And, again, the trick to all of these, you know, is putting it in context. 1534 01:57:32,660 --> 01:57:37,840 For example, if you're trading with looking at the ticks on an intraday 1535 01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:43,620 the S &Ps, on a strong trend day, you know, you can't look for divergences in 1536 01:57:43,620 --> 01:57:45,500 the ticks. It'll get run over. 1537 01:57:46,260 --> 01:57:49,960 The same thing, like, with certain oscillators. So I'm not quite sure if 1538 01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:51,560 really addresses your question. 1539 01:57:54,169 --> 01:57:56,890 John is saying confirmation of trading intuition. 1540 01:57:58,890 --> 01:58:02,970 Yeah, I'm not sure about that either, Linda. Okay, let's go to the next 1541 01:58:02,970 --> 01:58:05,930 question, and we have maybe like a minute or so left. 1542 01:58:06,750 --> 01:58:12,170 Carl is asking, and this is in reference to one of your slides where you had the 1543 01:58:12,170 --> 01:58:17,150 ATR range in red and green on the chart. He's asking what kind of software you 1544 01:58:17,150 --> 01:58:20,110 used and how do you actually set that ATR range? 1545 01:58:22,730 --> 01:58:29,570 I use both CQG and TradeStation, and both of those 1546 01:58:29,570 --> 01:58:34,550 have scripting language, and it's easy to write the code. In fact, if anybody 1547 01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:39,910 has TradeStation or CQG and wants the code, go to my website, drop me an 1548 01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:41,210 and I'll mail it to you. 1549 01:58:43,150 --> 01:58:47,910 It was really just strictly based off of Wells Wilder's formula, and what we 1550 01:58:47,910 --> 01:58:51,790 found is there's not any right or wrong variable. You can make it. 1551 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:57,740 Three ATRs or two and a half ATRs. It can be off the close or the low or the 1552 01:58:57,740 --> 01:59:04,480 high. And additionally, it's very similar to a 1553 01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:06,520 volatility stop and reverse system. 1554 01:59:07,260 --> 01:59:12,300 That's what I think Wells Wilder called it in his book was with the volatility 1555 01:59:12,300 --> 01:59:13,840 system. 1556 01:59:17,410 --> 01:59:21,770 You need to have a software that can do a scripting language, but you can do it 1557 01:59:21,770 --> 01:59:25,390 on any computer that would allow you to write your own indicator. 1558 01:59:25,610 --> 01:59:27,870 And it's really pretty easy. It's very, very simple. 1559 01:59:28,450 --> 01:59:29,450 All right. 1560 01:59:29,590 --> 01:59:31,710 Well, Linda, I think this is where... 1561 01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:33,700 We're probably going to stop for today. 1562 01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:38,720 I thought that was such a great start. So many great ideas that you've 1563 01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:39,599 to us. 1564 01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:44,020 And I'm kind of like, as you were talking, writing those down, thinking 1565 01:59:44,020 --> 01:59:47,800 you know, how we, you know, Wyckoff students here in the Wyckoff Nation 1566 01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:53,400 community could implement that. What does it mean for the interpretation on 1567 01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:54,400 of like the Wyckoff basis? 1568 01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:59,120 And a lot of these same ideas that we have. 1569 01:59:59,759 --> 02:00:06,640 And it's just a matter of understanding how you're using those and how we could 1570 02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:12,060 incorporate those into our trading. So thank you so much. And we're looking 1571 02:00:12,060 --> 02:00:18,280 forward to the second session, which we will have, which will be conducted next 1572 02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:24,460 week, next Thursday at the same time, at 3 p .m. Pacific or 6 p .m. 1573 02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,660 Eastern. And, Linda, thank you so much. 1574 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:31,080 You bet. Looking forward to it. We're going to have some fun because we're 1575 02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:34,200 to get down to the actual trading patterns, not just models. 1576 02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,160 So I'll see you all then. 1577 02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:38,800 Awesome. Thank you, and bye -bye. 1578 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:40,400 Night -night. 150525

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