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Hello, everyone. Today is March 7th, and
this is the first session of March
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Special Series that we have with Linda
Bradford -Rashke. And we called it Her
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Traits, Her Story.
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We're going to talk a lot about the book
that's coming out from Linda. I just
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want to go through some of the
administrative questions that you might
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We're going to have three sessions on
March 7th, 14th, and 21st. All of the
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sessions are going to be conducted from
3 to 5 p .m.
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Pacific time.
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We're going to have a switch here in the
U .S., so for those of you who are
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international students, we'll let you
know in the next message that we're
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to have the switch to the daylight time.
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And another administrative note is that
all of the sessions are being recorded,
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so don't worry.
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Nothing will be wasted as the material.
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And you will receive an email with login
instructions after this first session,
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probably by 9 p .m. Pacific today,
depending on how quickly the video could
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encoded and uploaded to the website.
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I would like to welcome Linda. Linda,
hello. How are you doing?
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I'm doing fine. Thank you, Roman. Thank
you for having me on.
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Well, I want to start with an
introduction.
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And usually, you know, here I would be
reading.
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the buyer and I want to do this in a
slightly different way.
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I want to tell a small short story, a
personal story of how I met Linda. I
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believe that the first time that I met
Linda I was I don't remember the city
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where it was but I remember that it was
after a conference.
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So after is an organization that is
comprised of
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probably the best minds of technical
analysis here in the US and
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maybe even outside of the US.
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And these are the people that use
technical analysis professionally.
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There are specific requirements for
being a member of this society.
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I believe it's seven years in the
professional field.
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You have to have specific contributions.
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People there are definitely extremely
smart and knowledgeable about technical
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analysis. And I met Linda at the
conference.
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We had a talk. One of the things that I
was so at awe and
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impressed right away is that we started
talking about trading, and
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Linda was communicating to me some of
her results.
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And at that point of time, Linda has...
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logged in 32 years of trading.
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And this is not just trading for her
personal account, but managing the
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So managing someone else's money,
exposing herself to this constant
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accountability to deliver and produce
the results.
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And out of 32 years, Linda has been
profitable for 31, which is
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unbelievable.
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And then as we were preparing for this
session, you know, years later, you
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the news stat that I have from LIDA is
that out of 39 years, LIDA has been
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profitable for 37.
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So I would say that this is almost like
a miracle.
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It's definitely an extreme outlier in
our field, especially with...
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big accounts where you're managing a lot
of money to be that consistent
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and to sustain that consistency for so
many years, almost for
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decades. That's unprecedented.
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So therefore, as I was telling you in
other classes about
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this upcoming event, I wanted you to
come and listen to the
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mindset that Linda has developed
throughout this year.
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And also, obviously, we want to
understand how Linda functions on a
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weekly basis. So there will be a lot of
talk about a process.
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And then Linda is going to talk about
also how she is using her system,
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how she understands technical analysis.
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There are so many questions that we
might have for Linda because Linda is an
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expert in technical analysis on a very
practical basis.
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And this is what I hear from her, and
this is what I see from the material
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she's going to present.
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And when you become an expert at this
point, there are some ideas that you're
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challenging that were common.
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and maybe are still common as a belief.
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And that's how I felt in my preparation
with Linda, you know, in my
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conversations, that some of the common
beliefs that we have about trading the
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markets or how we should approach those,
those could be challenged by Linda. So
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we really need to pay attention to that.
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Also, I want to say that I started
reading the book.
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Trading Sardines, and it's a very easy
read and very, in
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a lot of spots, very funny.
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And it has so many insights based on the
experience by Linda as to, you know,
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how she met specific people, how she,
you know, certain situations. And I
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definitely highly recommend.
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go to her website, lindarashki .net,
find the book, order it. I believe
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it's under $40.
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And look at all of these people, and I
haven't put even all of them, but every
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name has such a big story and just a big
name behind it.
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Obviously, we know Linda from Market
Streets by Jack Schrager.
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In 2013, I was the conference director
of the EFTA conference.
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That's the International Federation of
Technical Analysts. We had the
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in San Francisco. Linda was a presenter
there.
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And a part of the panel on market
widgets where Jack Schrager was also
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And Jack Schrager was conducting the
interviews with Linda and Ed Secorder.
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And I don't even remember who else we
had.
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a lot of funds.
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And that's how we know Linda. That's how
Linda came to the public and became
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known so well. So definitely would
recommend the book.
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And Linda's going to say a couple of
words about this.
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And the last slide that I have is just,
let's just quickly go through all of the
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sessions.
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This is what I received from Linda. So
the first session is going to be devoted
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to the philosophy of technical analysis.
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I'm looking forward to hear some, you
know, interesting thoughts and nuggets
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that price behavior. And we absolutely
study that from the not just price, but
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also how effort volume influences that
behavior.
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how to quantify market structures and
summary of some of the models Lynn is
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going to show us today. Session number
two, trading strategies and patterns for
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stocks and futures.
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Short -term and daily timeframes will be
discussed.
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Number three, very important.
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A session that's going to be devoted on
the process.
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How do we prepare ourselves, or rather
how Linda prepares herself for trading
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and what can we learn from that? How to
avoid traps laid by cognitive biases.
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That is something that is so important
for us because we're constantly being
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bombarded unconsciously.
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you know, from inside to behave in a
certain way. So I'm really curious to
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how Linda, you know, tackles that
problem.
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The importance of the proper context,
you know, with Wyckoff method, obviously
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each session is devoted to defining the
context.
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So that's going to be also very
interesting. And then the last one is
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recognize quickly whether short -term
strategies are working or not.
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In the disclaimer, obviously, all of
these three sessions, everything that
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either I or Linda says here is only for
educational purposes.
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Linda, with that, welcome to my special
thank you so much for being here. We
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are all looking for your presentations,
and I'm going to switch the screen to
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you.
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Thank you, Robin. Let me know when
people can see my screen.
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Show my screen.
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There we go. Is everything good?
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Okay.
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Thank you guys for attending today.
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And I know it was quite a busy day in
the markets, so I'm looking forward to
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having some fun.
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I thought that what we would do today
is, first of all, I...
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I really would like to lay the
foundation as to how I see the market
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as well as how I use technical analysis.
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And then a lot of the models that I've
built, I think you'll be surprised at
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simplicity of most of them, and
hopefully many of you will be familiar
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basic concept behind the simple swing
charts, which is really my preferred
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of analysis.
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I'm going to show you a smattering of
models that I've developed over the
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All of these are very durable and
robust, meaning that even if I developed
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30 years ago, the results still hold
true today.
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And that's difficult to do if you start
putting in too many parameters and curve
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-fitting things.
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It won't hold up in the future.
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My models are basically using no more
than two variables and perhaps one
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and then I feel very confident that that
type of price behavior will hold true
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in the future. Now, the downside is, of
course, it's not a trading system, but
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it will teach us a lot of things about
price behavior, and I'm going to go
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through each of these models and discuss
what it taught me about price behavior
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along the way.
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So with that, let's see here if I can
scroll these little slides.
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Okay, very simply, with technical
analysis, I'm just simply trying to
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the most immediate trend.
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It doesn't matter to me if a trend is on
a five -minute chart or a weekly chart.
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A trend is really pertinent to the time
frame that you're on.
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So, for example, you could be looking at
a 30 -minute uptrend within the context
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of a daily downtrend. And as you all
know by now, I'm sure that trends are
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simply higher lows and higher highs.
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That's my definition of a trend.
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It has nothing to do with moving
averages or anything like that. It's the
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pattern in the swing. So you could have
a pattern of higher highs and higher
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lows on an hourly chart within the
context of a downtrend on the dailies.
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when I trade...
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I think the most important thing is to
be conscious of the trend that you are
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trading. So there's nothing wrong with
trading an hourly uptrend within the
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context of, say, for example, a daily or
a weekly downtrend. And that's where
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you have to be really clear about
exactly what market you're trading and
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time frame you're trading.
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So in addition to capturing the most
immediate...
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which is simply the supply, demand, and
balance.
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I also like to identify the turning
points at the ends of swings.
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That's where you have your best risk
-reward.
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And we'll look at a lot of those
patterns in the second session, how we
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those turning points, at least the
things that I look for.
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I am a big believer that I cannot.
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predict how high a market's going to go
or how low it's going to go.
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I don't know when it will get there.
See, it'll get you ill if you won't get
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there, but when it will get there.
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And even today, the markets never cease
to surprise me.
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Things always go further than you think
they will to the upside, and they go
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further than you think they will to the
downside.
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think there's any statistically
significant way to predict where a
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going to go. We can only predict the
most immediate trend that's intact, and
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we start to get signs that we're getting
a loss of momentum or a price
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rejection. I am a trader, not an
investor, so I really like to position
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myself.
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in a manner where perhaps you have the
chance of getting a greater than normal
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win. And we're going to look at these
patterns in the second session as well.
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Where are the patterns so that we can
position ourselves where there's an
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opportunity to trail a stop?
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So in other words, a simple bull flag or
bear flag, you're not going to
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necessarily trail a stop.
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You're just going to play for a swing up
or swing down.
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Whereas, say, for example, you have a
breakout from a prolonged chart
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that would be a case where you have
potentially a room for a bigger win. So
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we'll look at the difference between
market structure.
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capturing a fat tail versus just playing
for a sure but small profit.
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And that's the bottom line. If there's a
dollar lying on the sidewalk, certainly
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you're going to pick it up. Those could
just be little scalp trades.
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But we do want to be aware of
positioning ourselves in the direction
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could get a fat tail. That's not
necessarily the case for investing.
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Investing, perhaps you want sure or
steadier gains.
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Goodness gracious.
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What was that stock today?
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BPHT, a biotech stock.
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Okay, that's the type of company where
you might get a fat tail in your favor.
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But lots of times the goals of an
investor obviously are much different
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goals of a trader.
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I always try to model anything I can to
create a structure.
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I don't trade with systems.
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I have yet to find a system that I would
trade with if I had developed one that
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I believed in that worked for all these
years.
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But the point of modeling is you must
have some type of structure, because
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tell you, I'm the first to say that I've
got numerous cognitive biases.
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Everything affects me, whether I want to
admit it or not. It's difficult for me
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to get it out of my head.
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And so I remember once talking with Ned
Davis. He gave a lecture, and he said,
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For traders, it's very important to have
some type of objective indicator.
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That objective indicator could be
something like a higher or a low or a
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pivot or perhaps an oscillator reading,
something that's concrete that's black
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and white that you can't argue with.
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Obviously, chart formations have a lot
of gray area in them, so it's very
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difficult to –
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You know, a lot of people get cognitive
biases when they look at chart
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formations. You know, sometimes you can
kind of see what you want to see a
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little bit, even though experienced
technicians know you can draw trend
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and say, well, the odds are it's going
to be head and shoulders or whatever the
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case may be.
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But it's still important for me to try
to have a modeling process that I can
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quantify.
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And then around those, you'll see, we'll
go through some examples, how your
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models can change with each new piece of
market information, and that allows a
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lot of flexibility.
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An obvious example would be if you had a
breakout from a chart formation, but
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then it came back in to the chart
formation, you could say perhaps that
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Wyckoff spring or upthrust. But at the
time, the very first bar, it might have
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looked like a breakout.
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So we have to allow the flexibility to
change our models or adapt with each new
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data point that the market gives us.
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So like I said, I'm really looking
forward to laying this foundation for
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because then I'll be able to present
more concrete tradable patterns and
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have some fun in the second session.
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Just quickly, theories of price
behavior.
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That is what I love to study and it's
actually...
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not a complicated thing because you're
just looking at supply and demand
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equations. But there are some conceptual
things, for example, auction theory,
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the process of price discovery.
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I think that in the last ten years
there's been a much greater awareness of
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market profile types of concepts.
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And this is actually the auction theory,
the process by which you're trying to
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arrive at that equilibrium level where
the supply and the demand can balance
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out.
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Another theory, the theory of efficient
markets, I don't think any of us accept
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that theory, that they fully reflect all
available information at all times, and
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that's probably because you've got a
bunch of humans and algos and things
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cause little distortions and biases and
crowd behavior and things that might
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take away from the efficiency of the
market.
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The theory of reflexivity was made
popular by Soros, George Soros, and
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essentially that a market is going to
overshoot from one extreme to another
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extreme, perhaps going from extreme
bearish sentiment to extreme bullish
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sentiment or overshooting in terms of a
parabolic rise where price way exceeds
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what would be a natural equilibrium
point.
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And that's often where we get these
positive feedback loops.
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such as short squeezes or long
liquidation flushes. So that's just
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of defining some of the aspects of price
behavior.
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Catastrophe theory is pretty interesting
because it was the very first theory
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that I came across. I mention it in the
book in San Francisco's business
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library. And it's different from chaos
theory.
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Things are in a normal type of behavior
and then you just hit this freak radical
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point and you jump to a new plane or
there's a dislocation in the data. And
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see this all the time in the markets.
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It was never really accepted as a theory
of price behavior because it didn't
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have any predictive value.
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But it does make a hats off to the fact
that truly.
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This price behavior is not linear, even
though we would like to pretend that it
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is. It's not a linear system.
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And lastly, I just have to mention the
black swans, the fat tails.
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that it is not a normal bell -shaped
curve, that the distribution much favors
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the tails more than we would think so in
our normal statistical models. And
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that's what's difficult for us humans to
see, is to accept the fact that risks
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might be greater than we think they are,
and likewise, of course, opportunities
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could be greater than our models are
telling us.
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So let's move on.
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Basic modeling.
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Modeling is nothing more than asking
questions.
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And when I started off modeling the
markets, all I did was a piece of paper
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a pencil and sit there and write down
price and levels and
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fill out spreadsheets. And, you know, it
could be.
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Of course, we've got so much more
sophisticated software available to us
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but it's really about asking questions.
So anything you see during the day or
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that crosses your mind, there's usually
a way that we can model that.
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and we'll have some fun as I move
forward and look at some of the things
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we've modeled.
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And also with the modeling process,
sometimes we think that there's a
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pattern that has a frequency of
occurrence, but then when we start to
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and we look at the times that it doesn't
work, we can learn just as much from
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that as well for looking at where the
situations don't work. Hang on one
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My dog was barking outside. I wish she
had to shut him up there, so sorry about
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that. Okay.
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Yes, I know. I've got this yapping in
the background. I'm like, I just had a
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busy trading day, and I'm trying to give
a presentation, and I don't need a
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little yipping dog in the background.
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Okay. So let's just get on and think
about some of these things that we can
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in terms of our modeling.
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Basic questions.
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What happens when price hits an extreme,
meaning perhaps a five -standard
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deviation move?
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How far is something going to retrace
after it's moved a particular distance
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away from a moving average? Or perhaps
these are things that we can't model.
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Sometimes you can't model those things
in the case of an outlier. Are there
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particular tendencies at a time of day?
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We'll look at this as we move on, too,
because definitely there are.
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And there's day of the week tendencies
as well.
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You know, all of you are very familiar
with the seasonal tendencies, how a
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market acts before a holiday or around
the first day of the month.
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What happens if you've just had a very
large standard deviation move?
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Let's say the market makes a five
standard deviation move. What would be
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expected outcome after you've done that?
And vice versa, what happens after the
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market's had a sustained period of below
normal volatility?
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All of these things we can ask questions
about.
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And again, we're not trying to create a
system.
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I don't use stops when I'm modeling.
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So right there it tells you, please
don't use it as a system.
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Pretty much when you do use stops, you
will degrade the system or the model.
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So we're just looking for tendencies.
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And we're not concerned with the actual
dollar P &L, but I just want to see the
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frequency of occurrence and whether it's
something that can lead to a larger
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than expected win.
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So you can see just some basic, basic
questions, and we'll try and keep it
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simple, just two or three variables, and
then we've got something that will hold
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up over time.
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Just again, a system has a well -defined
rule set with entries and exits and
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risk management. I know that you guys
know all this, so I'm just going to
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through this.
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But I do want to mention this
alternation of states, which is really
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problem in modeling, is that you have
periods where the market is extremely
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efficient, such as a sustained trend,
and then you have periods where the
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is very noisy and trading range.
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And what happens sometimes is when you
try to develop a system or model things,
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All the data from these positive
feedback states and these severe trends
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lumped in with the negative feedbacks,
the trading ranges and stuff, and the
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results sort of cancel each other out a
little bit.
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So you have to be aware about the actual
environment that you are trying to
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model.
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See, so it's this linear thinking, you
know, everybody would like to fit the
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market in a black box. We would like to
take a model such as an Elliott wave
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type of model with the swings and so
forth and be able to categorize it in a
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formal structure.
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But we really can't do that. The markets
just simply don't work that way.
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And it's probably a good thing that they
don't as well.
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Okay, we're going to just get back down
to the hardcore structure now.
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I try to model things first as a
departure point with wave structure.
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And if any of you have read Art
Merrill's book on filtered waves, he was
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of a pioneer in terms of modeling these
waves.
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And he used a percentage function.
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the intermediate term trend, the longer
term trend, so forth, you can do the
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same thing with the wave structure.
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Art Merrill said, okay, if I do a filter
and only look at the 10 % swings, or if
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I look at the 5 % swings, it will allow
a lot more swings in it.
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Well, what I do is I use an ATR
function, an average true range
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And this is essentially something that
Wells Wilder wrote about almost 30 years
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ago, and it's simply 2 .5 ATRs up from
the
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highest close or 2 .5 ATRs down from the
highest close, or
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lowest, excuse me.
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ATR up from the low and ATR down from
the high, and it will create a pattern
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the waves, and we'll see what this looks
like on the chart.
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So this is nothing more than another way
of defining swing charts, and
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from there we can define the patterns in
the swings, and we can actually
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categorize them as to whether it leads
to a small swing or a big swing
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possibility.
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So essentially, you know, I know there
is somewhere there is a little pen that
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I'm supposed to be able to use here.
Yes.
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All right.
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Here's your trend, higher lows and
higher highs.
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And now we have a case where we make a
lower low and a lower high, but this
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not constitute a trend reversal.
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This is just a warning sign.
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So this is a really important pattern
here. It's a warning sign.
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And same thing with this. When we take
out that last swing low, it's not a
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reversal, but it's a warning sign.
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Why? Because we could just be an ABC up
like we did here. So this is still an
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overall uptrend because to create a
downtrend, you have to have a lower high
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and a lower low.
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and then turned down from there.
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So you see how that process is? Here we
made a lower low and then turned down
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from there. And this whole thing almost
looks like a head and shoulders top type
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of chart formation.
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This is probably the most important
formation in technical analysis, this
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consolidation that either leads to a new
leg up or it fails.
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All right? So this is so important. If
you want to identify the maximum risk
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-reward opportunities, they come right
here. And part of the reason is is
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because the process of doing these
swings right here forms a line.
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So you see that? And if you're familiar
with this market profile concept of
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having the high -volume nodes, where the
maximum amount of trading took place,
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what happens is when you pull up out of
this structure, you're either going to
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make a new leg up or a new leg down
because this process is making the
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come into balance.
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So a very cool thing there, just a very
cool concept. And, of course, These
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little flags along the way, these are
excellent points for playing for a small
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target because obviously you can just go
up and fail as well. They don't have
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the big target potential that this ABC
does.
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Let's see what this looks like on some
charts here.
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And you'll have to erase it first and
then pick the normal one.
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Okay.
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So I erased everything.
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And then, yes. There we go.
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Teach me to have fun with a pen. Sorry
about that, guys.
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All right. So this is a dollar index.
This is actually from 18 years ago.
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It's kind of cool because this market
has been building repair, and you can
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where it was once upon a time. This
dollar index was at 120.
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This is a weekly chart.
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So the other thing that I'll mention
that is really important is that the
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are always going to be cleanest and most
distinguishable on the higher time
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frames.
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The lower the time frame that you go
down to, the more noise.
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So you can see right here this one
little structure where we had the lower
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so it's kind of this ABC consolidation
thing, and that led to a pretty much new
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swing up. And same thing here, this
little bit of a chart formation here,
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ended up bringing a new swing down. But
higher high, I mean, excuse me, lower
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high, lower low.
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Right here is your trend reversal point.
At that point, you can definitively say
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that the market entered a downtrend.
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So same thing here on the inverse. This
is the dollar index
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to the upside. This isn't the dollar
index.
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That slide's cut off there. Whoops.
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So you can see the process of thinking
about a failed ABC.
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You have the ABC up, you come down, and
then when you take out the high of that
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ABC, that is your maximum potential for
capturing an
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outlier. So think about a failed ABC,
and that can lead to your big win.
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Obviously, swing charts sound so simple,
but you can see there's still plenty of
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volatility here. So the computer was
saying at this point, all the way
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here, that this market is still in an
uptrend. And the reason I say that is
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because just because we think
something's in an uptrend doesn't mean
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still shouldn't use some type of risk
management or risk control. This would
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have been a painful downdraft to ride
out before then making a new high.
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So a lot of times with stops, what I do
is I tell myself, if I get stopped out,
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then that's allowing me to reenter the
trend at a better price.
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That's just a little mental trick that
you can use. But I just did want to show
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that even in uptrends and downtrends, as
we well know from last year, you do
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have substantial volatility.
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And one more example here of the boons,
a daily chart.
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you know, little chart formation, and we
have our lower high,
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lower low, and when we take out that
lower low here, that is the point where
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you've got a trend reversal.
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So everything I look at, I love looking
at the swing structure, and obviously
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our job is to only trade the swings.
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that are going to lead to a supply
-demand push imbalance.
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We don't want to trade every swing. I
think that that would be way too much
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brain fry.
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The last concept I want to mention, this
is just on a short -term tick chart,
446
00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:58,250
but it could be any time frame.
447
00:33:59,110 --> 00:34:03,310
And that's how I look at charts, by the
way. This could be a weekly chart. It
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00:34:03,310 --> 00:34:07,270
could be a daily chart. It could be a
one -minute chart. All I see are the
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00:34:07,270 --> 00:34:13,330
swings. And this concept of the sideways
line where price fluctuated around a
450
00:34:13,330 --> 00:34:17,710
central value lot is also the last
component of structure.
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00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,040
So I know at the very end of the third
session, we're going to look at specific
452
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,000
markets. But just for fun, I wanted to
show how this plays out with some
453
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,900
markets and what it will look like when
I plot the swings.
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00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,800
Again, this red -green -red rule is
simply if it moves up off the low by a
455
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,699
certain average true range function, it
turns the swing green, and vice versa to
456
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:44,578
the downside.
457
00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:47,219
So it makes it very visually pleasing.
458
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:49,989
in terms of pattern recognition.
459
00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:54,330
Very difficult to create a system off
that, but it makes it very pleasing.
460
00:34:54,670 --> 00:34:59,030
And I always like to look at two time
frames at once. So we have the weekly
461
00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:01,410
charts and the daily charts. This is
IBM.
462
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,900
At the bottom of swings, one thing that
we can often find on one time frame or
463
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:14,120
another are these types of divergences.
So even though this was a major
464
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,360
downswing and we took out that low,
there was still a momentum divergence
465
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,320
led to a good drive back up.
466
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,220
Now I overlaid a zigzag function.
467
00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:30,460
This is a default on CQG, but actually
TradeStation has something similar.
468
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:37,460
packages do provide some type of
function or you can draw it by hand or
469
00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:42,640
good chart study, it's easy visual
inspection just to see the swing highs
470
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,640
swing lows.
471
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,520
Another trick, too, is this is a
relatively fast oscillator here because
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00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,700
difference between a 3 and 10 simple
moving average.
473
00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:54,620
But if you were to plot...
474
00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:59,510
A slower stochastic, and just look for
the turning points on that. You'll see
475
00:35:59,510 --> 00:36:03,550
that it's pretty analogous to
highlighting the swings as well.
476
00:36:04,170 --> 00:36:10,990
So I'm not going to say much more about
this, except for the fact that the
477
00:36:10,990 --> 00:36:15,090
weekly chart of IBM is still in a
downtrend.
478
00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:19,110
With that said, I don't look so much
at...
479
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,840
The weekly trends, because the trend
reversal can only come like once every
480
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,820
or six years. It's a very, very long
time horizon.
481
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,660
But you can see here, the thing I wanted
to point out with IBM on this daily
482
00:36:31,660 --> 00:36:38,520
chart here is that the computer will say
this is still in a downtrend. So even
483
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:45,020
though we had this huge rally here, it's
a downtrend because it still needs to
484
00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:46,460
make a higher low.
485
00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:50,350
These are just formable rules. It's not
a trading system.
486
00:36:50,590 --> 00:36:55,130
It's just a way of categorizing things,
because when we do start to look at
487
00:36:55,130 --> 00:37:01,550
relative strength, then it becomes
critically important to be able to
488
00:37:01,550 --> 00:37:05,910
categorize it. Now, this is interesting,
too, because Apple Weekly, I just
489
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:07,710
wanted to show the contrast.
490
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:13,850
Apple Weekly is still in an uptrend, and
conversely,
491
00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:19,320
this chart right here would show that
this is now in a downtrend since we made
492
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,720
lower highs and then took out that low.
493
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:26,920
So I thought that was sort of
interesting where you can see that one
494
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,740
still technically is in an uptrend and
this one is in a downtrend. I know that
495
00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:35,160
sounds confusing. Don't try and think
about it. It doesn't matter because
496
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,120
find ways to harness this information
later in a very simple mode.
497
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:46,100
Now, I'll also say that we know, see
this V spike here on the weekly charts?
498
00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:49,700
We did a lot of modeling with these
swings.
499
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:56,180
And you would be surprised that these V
spikes, meaning sharp up, you can see
500
00:37:56,180 --> 00:38:01,600
this last upswing was greater than the
previous upswing, and this last
501
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,980
was greater than the previous downswing.
So that constitutes a V spike.
502
00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:09,840
These occurrences in the data are a lot
more frequent.
503
00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:12,570
than you might imagine.
504
00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:16,910
You know, we like to think that you can
just play flags and continuation
505
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:22,430
patterns up and down and then you'll
enter a nice normal trading range, but
506
00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:29,170
that's not so. We get these radical
sharp up thrusts and then coming back
507
00:38:29,170 --> 00:38:30,930
and vice versa more than you think.
508
00:38:31,210 --> 00:38:37,190
Now, typically what happens is if you
have a sharp up and a sharp down, the
509
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:41,950
expected outcome is that it'll start to
form a prolonged trading range.
510
00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:47,750
So I would suspect that Apple right
here, I would guess that this is going
511
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:54,310
start to form a very prolonged trading
range until it can start to find its
512
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:57,970
balance and equilibrium level. So if I
were looking at Apple, I would say it's
513
00:38:57,970 --> 00:39:02,050
lousy investment stock right now because
it's probably going to go nowhere.
514
00:39:05,759 --> 00:39:09,620
And this was sort of random. I was
actually trying to call up another
515
00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:12,180
I came across this stock purely by
accident.
516
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,820
You know, I'm sure you go to punch in
the symbol CI or something.
517
00:39:16,820 --> 00:39:20,580
CCI, I'm like, I have no idea what it
is. I had to look it up. It was a REIT,
518
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,600
right?
519
00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:26,230
Crown Castle, I thought, well, this is a
pillar of relative strength.
520
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:32,410
And the one thing that's most notable is
that when we had that huge weekly sell
521
00:39:32,410 --> 00:39:37,290
-off at the beginning of this year and
the end of last year, you can see the
522
00:39:37,290 --> 00:39:40,190
weekly charts here still made a higher
low.
523
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:45,570
At these cycle bottoms or at these
extreme points, that's one of the best
524
00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:49,650
components of relative strength that you
can do is say, where are the swings
525
00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:55,170
that were up higher than the previous
lows, and voila, there was pretty much a
526
00:39:55,170 --> 00:40:00,970
nifty push to new highs here on this
daily. So we had the weeklies in an
527
00:40:00,970 --> 00:40:06,180
uptrend. And the dailies were in an
uptrend. And remember what I said about
528
00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:09,120
ABC, ABC, ABC.
529
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,180
These types of waves are very well
behaved.
530
00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:20,120
And so that was funny because then I
called up this stock just out of
531
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,540
And I was like, wow, two radically
different.
532
00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:31,700
and it should be a very common sense
type of thing that this one had much
533
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,000
investment opportunity, obviously.
534
00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:40,140
And that, to me, is the crux of
technical analysis. It has to be common
535
00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:46,080
It has to fit the common sense bill. And
so I try to refrain from using anything
536
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,740
like Fibonacci numbers or pivots that
people can't see in the market.
537
00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:58,680
You know, just Elliott Wave doesn't work
for me because two different people can
538
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,060
come up with the same conclusion, you
know, totally different conclusions.
539
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:05,860
You know, I can't have this alternate
count thing because you don't get to do
540
00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:09,160
that in your trading. You don't get to
say, oh, well, wait, I'm going to back
541
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,920
and trade in the other direction.
542
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,100
That was just an interesting aside.
543
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,260
And then lastly, I thought this was kind
of interesting because these 30 -year
544
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:23,420
yield charts, right now there's a lot of
focus on the yields. Of course, the
545
00:41:23,420 --> 00:41:25,800
boons went screaming to the upside
today.
546
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:32,500
But this was the weekly chart of the 30
-year yields.
547
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,960
And you can see what we did here. It was
one of those sort of V -spike things.
548
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,250
So normally, when you take out... that
swing high, you should not come back
549
00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:47,010
that range by more than 50 cents. That's
50%. That's a real failure.
550
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:51,250
And here, I thought there was a chance
that we would be able to break out more
551
00:41:51,250 --> 00:41:56,710
to the upside when I printed off this
chart, and it just failed to get any.
552
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,460
As I say, it didn't catch hold.
553
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:04,280
And you can see the swing ended up being
shorter than this previous swing. And,
554
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:08,380
of course, where were we today? We're
just trading back down around here. And
555
00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:14,520
looks like very probable this could be a
big, broad trading range environment as
556
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,280
well. So the daily chart is always going
to give a better.
557
00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:23,120
a different picture than the weekly and
a different picture than the monthly
558
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,500
because I know it's very easy for people
to get way too bullish on this market
559
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:31,220
or way too bearish on this market, but
it looks to me like it's pretty much
560
00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:32,640
in the water here for now.
561
00:42:34,060 --> 00:42:40,200
Okay, so let's go on and look at some
more nuances on different types of
562
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,960
strategies and models, okay, because
we're really talking about the models
563
00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:51,120
I tend to categorize most of my models
and strategies into several different
564
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:56,380
groups. Momentum strategies, obviously,
like a breakout and continuation and
565
00:42:56,380 --> 00:42:57,380
trend.
566
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:03,500
Mean reversion after the market's had a
big move. Mean reverting strategies as a
567
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:06,100
market tries to wind down to
equilibrium.
568
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,860
And then we also have specific
strategies that we can model, such as a
569
00:43:11,860 --> 00:43:16,400
opening gap or time of day functions,
even seasonals.
570
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:19,070
categorize as a specific strategy.
571
00:43:19,630 --> 00:43:24,290
And then I don't want to elaborate on
the rest of this stuff too much, but the
572
00:43:24,290 --> 00:43:29,550
market profile concepts, really
important when we start talking in our
573
00:43:29,550 --> 00:43:36,270
session, open, test, reject, okay? Open
drive, open rotate, open trend. These
574
00:43:36,270 --> 00:43:41,290
were all things that were written about
by Peter Stottlemyre originally.
575
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:48,760
Jim Dalton popularized them. And it's
just the fact that when a market opens,
576
00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:53,720
and you can think about the start of the
new year as being an opening, the start
577
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,600
of a new month as being an opening.
578
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:01,240
It's that first data point. And when we
judge the market's action, we're always
579
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:08,190
judging one data point to a second data
point. So if it's the market opening, On
580
00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:12,910
the New York open, it can open and it
can rally up and then fail. In other
581
00:44:12,910 --> 00:44:16,090
words, it tested to the upside and
rejected it.
582
00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:22,430
Or it can open up and rally straight
away and never look back. That would be
583
00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:23,430
open drive.
584
00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:29,250
Or it could be open rotate, meaning that
you just turn around that central value
585
00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:30,510
and really go nowhere.
586
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,400
So you can think about this, again, at
the start of the month. How does the
587
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,860
month play out? How does a week play
out? How does the day play out?
588
00:44:39,580 --> 00:44:42,520
Is it a rotational trading range year?
589
00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:49,400
It's just always judging the price
relative to another price and how urgent
590
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,240
is that initial supply -demand
imbalance.
591
00:44:55,500 --> 00:45:00,780
What I try to do is pretty much capture
a piece of the morning trend, probably a
592
00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:05,340
little bit shorter time frame than the
bulk of this presentation.
593
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,300
I like to see if I can capture the sweet
spot because that's when you have Asia
594
00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:16,080
still open, Europe still open, and the U
.S. still open. So you're going to have
595
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,160
the best sustainability, at least for
the products that I trade.
596
00:45:22,410 --> 00:45:26,310
Non -confirmation, I know all you guys
are aware of that. These are the types
597
00:45:26,310 --> 00:45:31,810
things that I look at just in my
definition of technical analysis.
598
00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:37,670
Okay, with all that covered, I'm going
to start to get down to some nitty
599
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:40,570
-gritty models and then what we can
learn from them.
600
00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:47,110
This is a two -period rate of change,
and it is the only indicator that's a
601
00:45:47,110 --> 00:45:48,250
derivative of price.
602
00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:52,090
Because price is the truest indicator
always.
603
00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:57,070
And then when we start talking about a
derivative of price, you're talking
604
00:45:57,070 --> 00:46:04,010
a stochastic or an oscillator, ADX,
things that use the
605
00:46:04,010 --> 00:46:10,270
price in them. And those things are
very, very difficult to use in a model.
606
00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:12,610
just don't have a sustainable edge.
607
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:16,750
They're great for pattern recognition,
but if you try and plug them into a
608
00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:17,750
linear model,
609
00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:20,850
It just doesn't test out.
610
00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:26,490
But the two -period rate of change is
the only indicator I've found where
611
00:46:26,490 --> 00:46:31,210
there's a statistically significant
edge. Now, mind you, you're not going to
612
00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:37,310
rich on it, but there's selective
patterns that we can use. And the first
613
00:46:37,310 --> 00:46:42,970
I wanted to point out here was making
these new momentum lows on this two
614
00:46:42,970 --> 00:46:46,010
-period rate of change is one of the
strongest.
615
00:46:47,690 --> 00:46:54,630
and most durable statistics. So we made
new momentum lows, and here's
616
00:46:54,630 --> 00:47:00,070
the catch with any oscillator or
indicator, you also made new price lows.
617
00:47:00,330 --> 00:47:06,250
So if we have a case where we make new
price lows and new momentum lows, the
618
00:47:06,250 --> 00:47:09,970
price has great odds of still trading
lower.
619
00:47:10,170 --> 00:47:13,770
So it's a very good leading indicator,
if you will.
620
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:19,620
And you can see what I like to look for
is this up 1, 2 right here, this little
621
00:47:19,620 --> 00:47:25,300
drift pattern, as it's called in
technical analysis, and then we revert
622
00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:30,030
down. So this is just the first little
thing that I like to look for in trading
623
00:47:30,030 --> 00:47:37,030
that's pretty much a gimme, one of those
90 % trades, looking to short the first
624
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:41,310
reaction up after that new momentum low.
So that's a pretty common one.
625
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:44,470
Also, you'll see that the little...
626
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,900
Divergences can show up exceptionally
well on this when you have the buy
627
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:51,340
divergence here.
628
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,540
And then, of course, the price made a
new high, and we actually ended up not
629
00:47:56,540 --> 00:47:58,720
quite making a higher high until right
here.
630
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,280
But this is the little pattern
recognition that I like to look for.
631
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,940
another little drift pattern with this
down one, too. And we were actually able
632
00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:11,960
to model this pretty substantially.
633
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:19,320
So along with this two -period rate of
change, it works best in an active
634
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,120
swinging market. Nothing works well in a
trading range market.
635
00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:29,780
But see if you can look for these types
of patterns on a particular stock that
636
00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:34,080
you like to trade or I only do it off of
daily charts.
637
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,580
I don't use anything like this on
intraday.
638
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:39,460
And here's my main goal.
639
00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:42,440
I want to get the main idea.
640
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,480
Right for the day.
641
00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:49,380
I don't always do that, but that's my
objective is I want to say, is it going
642
00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:54,380
be a low to high day or is it going to
be a high to low day?
643
00:48:54,940 --> 00:49:01,120
So if you just think about getting the
main idea right, that's.
644
00:49:01,530 --> 00:49:05,250
That's a good part of the game. Then it
takes a lot less pressure on your
645
00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:07,170
entries and your exits.
646
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:12,610
You know, in theory, if you could buy on
the opening and sell on the close, of
647
00:49:12,610 --> 00:49:15,210
course we don't do that. That's get the
main idea right.
648
00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:20,550
So when we have these cases where we're
in an uptrending market and have this
649
00:49:20,550 --> 00:49:24,930
down one, two, and we've got this close
below this five -period simple moving
650
00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:25,930
average,
651
00:49:26,190 --> 00:49:30,850
It's a really high probability buy day
and get the main idea right.
652
00:49:31,290 --> 00:49:36,070
And so if I can just go in for one day
at a time, one little piece at a time,
653
00:49:36,070 --> 00:49:41,070
and take it from there, that is my
favorite game. Now, what happens is
654
00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:46,230
eventually you can see up here at the
top, we've had our good markup, and now
655
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:48,870
I've got what I call is a three -bar.
656
00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:54,780
This was actually something that Richard
Dennis used, and I read it in a book
657
00:49:54,780 --> 00:50:00,240
that was written in the 50s, talking
about this specific little pattern where
658
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:06,040
you have the high is below the two -day
high, and the low is above the two -day
659
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640
low, and it forms a three -bar triangle.
660
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:13,260
When we modeled this, and by the way,
you can't see the data point over here
661
00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:18,780
the left side of the chart, but when we
modeled this, we found that it had the
662
00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:23,800
highest odds of follow -through the day
after, although you can see it didn't in
663
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:29,220
this case. But what I mean by that is,
how many of you are familiar with Toby
664
00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:36,040
Cravel's work or that concept of NR7,
narrowest range of the last seven days,
665
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,480
inside range days?
666
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,340
I'm always looking for where do we have
the best odds of...
667
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:51,540
trading above that day's high the
following day. So, for example, down
668
00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:57,060
have a range expansion day up, breakout
from three bar, and we actually traded
669
00:50:57,060 --> 00:51:02,860
above this high the following day. So
I'm just trying to take one data point
670
00:51:02,860 --> 00:51:09,000
a time. So this three bar triangle, even
though here it failed to do that, it
671
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,420
failed to take out this high the
following day. In fact, it failed to get
672
00:51:13,420 --> 00:51:14,420
expansion.
673
00:51:15,370 --> 00:51:20,430
one of our most successful trading
patterns over the last three years.
674
00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:29,010
And then lastly, you can see this slow
line here that I have plotted against
675
00:51:29,010 --> 00:51:31,690
this two -period rate of change.
676
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:38,930
This is nothing more than that 310
oscillator, which I showed you earlier,
677
00:51:38,930 --> 00:51:40,610
we'll look at some more.
678
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:47,770
It's a 16 -period moving average of the
3 and 10 simple. Whoops.
679
00:51:49,210 --> 00:51:53,890
And there's so many ways we can create
this same pattern recognition.
680
00:51:54,490 --> 00:52:01,410
For example, if you had a fast
stochastic, say a 9 or a 7 -period
681
00:52:01,410 --> 00:52:05,930
and you simply ran a 16 -period moving
average of that.
682
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,160
It creates the trend of the momentum.
That's how I like to think about it. And
683
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:18,120
you can also see how closely it mirrors
this moving average, the slope of this
684
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,240
moving average. So you don't even need
this at all. It's just a crutch for
685
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:23,420
visual inspection.
686
00:52:24,730 --> 00:52:29,070
But you can see the moving average
sloping up and sloping down and sloping
687
00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:34,270
And wouldn't it be so easy if, as
traders, you could say we're only
688
00:52:34,270 --> 00:52:39,070
take trades to the long side when you've
got this upsloping momentum.
689
00:52:39,490 --> 00:52:43,930
You're only allowed to take trades to
the downside when you've got this
690
00:52:43,930 --> 00:52:49,930
downsloping and so forth. And what we're
going to use as our trigger, what I use
691
00:52:49,930 --> 00:52:54,050
as my trigger, is looking for the points
where this can flip up.
692
00:52:54,430 --> 00:52:59,830
or flip down, and you can actually
calculate out the pivots ahead of time.
693
00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:05,530
And here was the first time that we
rolled over to a negative slope, and it
694
00:53:05,530 --> 00:53:07,990
to a wonderful shorting day.
695
00:53:08,290 --> 00:53:14,970
And vice versa here, we just turned up,
and it leads to a wonderful buying
696
00:53:14,970 --> 00:53:15,970
day.
697
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,800
Obviously, I'm showing an example that's
making it clean and easy for you.
698
00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:27,140
Unfortunately, the problem is that the
markets can also enter trading ranges
699
00:53:27,140 --> 00:53:32,840
where the volatility just shrinks and
there's not much opportunity at all.
700
00:53:33,140 --> 00:53:39,640
So for me, it's really important as a
trader that I go where the action is,
701
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,340
I go where the volatility is.
702
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,580
And I'm pretty much the first to admit
that.
703
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:51,980
If it's a narrow trading range, 99 % of
the time I'm going to get the breakout
704
00:53:51,980 --> 00:53:53,360
direction wrong.
705
00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:57,580
Okay, so I'm aware of that.
706
00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:03,740
So back to our process of modeling,
finding different ways to express
707
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:04,820
conditions.
708
00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:10,100
Okay, and I am going to take...
709
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,900
Plenty of time for questions. In about
ten minutes, I'll take time for
710
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:19,120
questions, and then we're going to
continue on with the presentation.
711
00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:24,680
So if you have – just hold on a little
bit longer here.
712
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:32,120
The process of modeling, back to testing
the entries and the exits and how I do
713
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,600
the modeling, I like to test things on a
time window.
714
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:43,890
I like to say if I bought – on the
opening and I exited on the close or on
715
00:54:43,890 --> 00:54:46,710
the next day's opening or on the next
day's close.
716
00:54:47,110 --> 00:54:50,470
That's really how I do most of my
modeling.
717
00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:56,250
It's also if you look at seasonals or
the tendencies that happen around
718
00:54:56,250 --> 00:55:01,330
holidays. If you bought two days before
the end of the last trading day and then
719
00:55:01,330 --> 00:55:06,770
exited three days later or if we bought
the day before the Thanksgiving holiday
720
00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:09,430
and exited the next Tuesday.
721
00:55:10,060 --> 00:55:13,600
This makes for the most durable and
robust framework.
722
00:55:14,060 --> 00:55:19,760
It's like an actuarial table, okay? Of
course, you know, I know that if I have
723
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:26,720
15 occurrences, 15 different years, and
13 of those years are right, okay,
724
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:32,280
this is just basic modeling stuff. If I
look 15 years, I have a sample size of
725
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:38,180
15 and 13 wins, the odds of a win going
forward are only...
726
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:46,500
It seems like they should be more, but
it's not. So it's just a probability,
727
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:50,860
the reason why it's not more is because
you have a fairly low confidence factor
728
00:55:50,860 --> 00:55:53,120
because of the low sample size.
729
00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:59,900
So when I do my modeling, I'm looking at
simply if I bought on the breakout and
730
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:05,740
exited on the close the following day,
or if I entered at 12 noon and I exited
731
00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:12,600
at 2 p .m., these types of little pieces
of small data to me are really
732
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,600
what has made my model hold up over all
these years.
733
00:56:19,530 --> 00:56:23,990
I'm not going to go too much into stops,
but we do test different things with
734
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:29,630
stops. You know, if we trailed a channel
stop or we trailed a dollar stop or a
735
00:56:29,630 --> 00:56:30,950
percentage ATR.
736
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:35,810
I like the time stops and I like the
disaster stops, which are like something
737
00:56:35,810 --> 00:56:37,030
very extreme.
738
00:56:37,370 --> 00:56:43,490
And what we found in all of our modeling
is that a combination of two stops is
739
00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:44,550
what works best.
740
00:56:45,090 --> 00:56:48,150
I tend to prefer a time stop.
741
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:49,720
and a channel stop.
742
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:56,020
So you could say, I'm going to exit
after five bars or if it stops me out by
743
00:56:56,020 --> 00:57:01,680
making a new three -day low, okay, for
example, in a long. So I'll hold that
744
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:07,700
long for five days. If it hasn't reached
the point where I can trail a stop or
745
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:14,160
exit, I'll just exit on a time stop or
the channel stop will take me out. But
746
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,160
the point I wanted to make, if you're
going to create a system, you actually
747
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,580
will do best if you can find two
different types of stops to combine.
748
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:29,520
And we're not developing systems this
particular session. We're just doing
749
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,580
models and stuff, but I have to mention
that. And then also for the filters.
750
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,100
We can use the time of day, the day of
week, seasonals. For example, some
751
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:45,220
tend to work better at certain times of
the year, especially with stocks.
752
00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:49,880
There's groups of stocks, for example,
retailers might be better at one time of
753
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,780
the year. Oil stocks might be better at
one time of the year than the other
754
00:57:52,780 --> 00:57:54,580
year. Just little subtle nuances.
755
00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:59,060
Volatility filters, are we in a range
state?
756
00:57:59,660 --> 00:58:01,940
Or have we broken out and are trending?
757
00:58:02,540 --> 00:58:08,320
Here's something interesting that you
might find interesting is
758
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:14,400
ATRs. Okay, when we do a lot of
modeling, we're looking at breakouts and
759
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:20,340
patterns. I meant to say ADXs. You would
think, paradoxically, that when you
760
00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:24,680
have a low ADX, that means there's a lot
of price bar overlap.
761
00:58:25,770 --> 00:58:30,210
that that's the point that you should do
a breakout trade or that's the point if
762
00:58:30,210 --> 00:58:32,890
you bought a new high, it could lead to
a bigger win.
763
00:58:33,310 --> 00:58:36,210
And in fact, the opposite is true.
764
00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:41,290
So if you're in a very choppy, narrow
range and it looks like it's coiled
765
00:58:41,290 --> 00:58:46,230
to break out, what you'll find is that
it tends to give two or three false
766
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:47,290
breakouts first.
767
00:58:48,130 --> 00:58:53,730
And so the moral of the story is let the
market come to life first.
768
00:58:54,350 --> 00:58:59,910
Let it tip its hand first before you go
sticking your nose in it. Then the
769
00:58:59,910 --> 00:59:01,250
swings are tradable.
770
00:59:01,650 --> 00:59:06,330
Buying a new 20 -day high or whatever
model that you're looking at tends to
771
00:59:06,330 --> 00:59:07,330
much better.
772
00:59:07,550 --> 00:59:13,130
So don't get stuck in these dull, quiet
markets thinking that it's going to come
773
00:59:13,130 --> 00:59:14,130
to life.
774
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,340
Okay, now we're going to have some real
fun. I'm going to show specific models
775
00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:26,300
and what each one of them has taught me,
and you'll see the different ways that
776
00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:28,920
we have actually modeled data.
777
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:36,140
This particular model was simply going
long when that two -period rate of
778
00:59:36,140 --> 00:59:42,520
that I showed you made a 30 -day high
and going short when it made a new 20
779
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:48,540
low. Now, on this particular model, All
we did was test for a very small target,
780
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,660
.5 ATRs.
781
00:59:50,860 --> 00:59:55,140
You'd be like, well, what's the point of
doing that? What's the point of getting
782
00:59:55,140 --> 00:59:59,280
into a model and you're just playing for
such a really small target?
783
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,980
Because I wanted to know that I would
have a super high win rate. And from
784
01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:10,500
there, then you can always trail a stop,
take half off and trail a stop. And how
785
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:16,520
you manage these trades is really a big
component of most of these systems. But
786
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:23,340
the point being, with every single
market across the board, when we went
787
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:28,780
after the two -payer rate of change had
made a new high, we had an 80%.
788
01:00:29,540 --> 01:00:35,160
So that really tells you the power of
the momentum. So here you can see on
789
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,680
Canadian dollar, our two -period rate of
change made new momentum lows, and we
790
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:46,600
went short, and we just played for a
very small piece, half of an ATR with a
791
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:51,980
very wide stop, but you'll see super
high win rate, super high. And same
792
01:00:51,980 --> 01:00:52,738
right here.
793
01:00:52,740 --> 01:00:56,320
Now I'll tell you one more trick that
we'll look at just in a minute.
794
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:03,060
and that is we can get this win rate up
to 90%, but it's going to take a little
795
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:07,420
bit of pattern recognition, and I'm
going to show you very clearly how to do
796
01:01:07,420 --> 01:01:12,060
that. But that's pretty cool that I can
get a 90 % win rate playing for, of
797
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:16,100
course, a small target on every single
market out there.
798
01:01:16,540 --> 01:01:21,140
And so this concept of momentum is very
seductive.
799
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,260
And here is another case, natural gas.
800
01:01:26,910 --> 01:01:32,510
Perhaps you had to take a little bit of
heat in here, but you definitely led to
801
01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:33,328
lower lows.
802
01:01:33,330 --> 01:01:39,410
So one of the first tenets of technical
analysis is momentum precedes price.
803
01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:47,610
And here, same thing to the upside with
the bonds, just starting along the way,
804
01:01:47,710 --> 01:01:49,910
and same thing here to the downside.
805
01:01:50,550 --> 01:01:54,630
Now, you can see on the chart here, it
doesn't look like this market's in a
806
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:57,350
downtrend. on the daily chart, right?
807
01:01:58,090 --> 01:02:04,950
But there's a big difference between new
momentum and a downtrend.
808
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:12,750
Now, here's one of the little traps that
I wanted to show you. This will very
809
01:02:12,750 --> 01:02:19,610
often happen when you have a long
liquidation flush, which
810
01:02:19,610 --> 01:02:24,190
can set up some of the best buying
opportunities, just like a short squeeze
811
01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:25,190
as well.
812
01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:30,550
So this would be a case where we made
new momentum lows, but the price didn't
813
01:02:30,550 --> 01:02:35,670
even take out the five -day lows. So we
didn't really have a new price low
814
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:41,210
there, and that's why this would be a
false signal. That would be one of the
815
01:02:41,210 --> 01:02:42,910
% of the times that it didn't work.
816
01:02:43,150 --> 01:02:48,910
Do you see the difference? We can take
any indicator out there, and the most
817
01:02:48,910 --> 01:02:51,730
important thing is to put it in context.
818
01:02:52,750 --> 01:02:58,470
Put it in the context, is it just a
flush or is it really breaking out to
819
01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:59,650
highs and new lows?
820
01:03:00,950 --> 01:03:04,610
Let's look at another trade. This is
fun. This was a pinball, and this was
821
01:03:04,610 --> 01:03:07,030
actually published in the Street Smarts
book.
822
01:03:07,590 --> 01:03:11,090
And what we found out, of course, after
the fact, or else I wouldn't
823
01:03:11,090 --> 01:03:13,130
purposefully withhold anything,
824
01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:20,750
Once you added this filter of only
taking the longs if it's above the 20
825
01:03:20,750 --> 01:03:26,490
exponential moving average and only
taking the shorts if it's below and
826
01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:31,090
end days after, this is what it would
look like. This is the indicator down
827
01:03:31,090 --> 01:03:37,950
here, which is a three -period RSI of a
one -period
828
01:03:37,950 --> 01:03:38,950
rate of change.
829
01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:44,740
And you can see here if we bought and
then always test out exit day one, day
830
01:03:44,740 --> 01:03:51,080
two, day three, that type of exit, all
of these were specific
831
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,280
signals here.
832
01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:58,460
And then this would be the results of
the pinball.
833
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:04,300
And you can see it's not profitable in
every single market, but it's profitable
834
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:06,960
enough that it would catch our
attention.
835
01:04:07,630 --> 01:04:13,450
Now, keep in mind, we didn't add any
filters to it, such as don't take the
836
01:04:13,450 --> 01:04:17,990
pinballs after a divergence or after a
buying or sell climax.
837
01:04:18,430 --> 01:04:23,390
It's just like the last flag and the end
of the run will be a bad one.
838
01:04:23,730 --> 01:04:29,030
But the point is that this is a
particular pattern that holds true in
839
01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:33,590
stocks, in all futures markets, and just
about any market.
840
01:04:33,950 --> 01:04:35,490
And it's just a general.
841
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:41,560
66 % win -loss ratio, and it's one of
the little patterns that I like to look
842
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:42,760
for to trade.
843
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:52,740
This is probably the most eye -opening
modeling for me
844
01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:59,540
that really changed my thinking in the
markets and trading, and I called them
845
01:04:59,540 --> 01:05:02,700
extended runs or persistency of trend.
846
01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:09,100
and I'll show you what it looks like
right here. A persistency of trend is
847
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:14,800
multiple closes on one side of this five
-period simple moving average.
848
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:20,700
So down here at the bottom, I have a
histogram that's the difference between
849
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:24,160
one and a five -period moving average.
850
01:05:24,580 --> 01:05:30,000
So it just tells me that if this is
negative, it's below the five -period.
851
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:35,780
Moving average. See, it's a neat little
trick just for visual processing here.
852
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:43,440
And the reason why this was such an
important modeling for me is because
853
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:48,740
as a trader, I like to be more
aggressive on short terms. You know, if
854
01:05:48,740 --> 01:05:53,360
swing trading, you buy for two, three,
four days, you sell for two, three, four
855
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,200
days, you buy for two, three, four days,
and you get into a nice little rhythm.
856
01:05:58,030 --> 01:06:02,430
And then once in a while, one of these
trends come along and it trends and it
857
01:06:02,430 --> 01:06:04,030
trends and it trends.
858
01:06:04,430 --> 01:06:08,410
And if you're too early, you know, it's
a good chance it's going to be very
859
01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:15,390
painful. So here you can see I have
multiple closes on one side of this
860
01:06:15,390 --> 01:06:20,930
moving average. So we simply said, for
starters, after we have seven closes on
861
01:06:20,930 --> 01:06:23,210
one side, what happens if.
862
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:28,460
I'll just say the computer shorted the
first close above, and then the computer
863
01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:31,340
covered the first close below.
864
01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:36,400
Okay, so that's the way I do my modeling
is I'm not looking at specific
865
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:42,940
techniques to time the entry or manage
the trade. I just want to say what
866
01:06:42,940 --> 01:06:47,700
happens if the computer went long and
the computer then covered, and you'll
867
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:53,920
Pretty much four trades here. Two were
winners and two were losers.
868
01:06:54,140 --> 01:07:00,000
And I always make it a point to show you
guys what the losers would look like
869
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,160
from a computer's point of view.
870
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:08,600
So, of course, if you shorted here on
this day, on this close, you had plenty
871
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,800
opportunity to cover it for a profit in
the next two days. But the computer
872
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:14,759
covered it.
873
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,920
Right there. So the computer shorted
there and covered there.
874
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:23,640
The computer shorted there and covered
there. And that's how I do my modeling.
875
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:28,660
But in this process, we learn
tremendously powerful things.
876
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,600
Here's the just simple little
retracement trades on the spiders. And
877
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:39,120
just a little, it's just a little
testing thing. Sometimes it leads to a
878
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,580
new swing, but we're just playing for
this first little reaction down and the
879
01:07:43,580 --> 01:07:49,940
first swing up. And that's simply if
you've had seven or more closes on one
880
01:07:49,940 --> 01:07:53,260
of the five SMA, five period simple
moving average.
881
01:07:53,820 --> 01:07:59,060
The first reaction on the opposite side
of it just sets up a simple retracement
882
01:07:59,060 --> 01:08:05,460
trade. So these are high probability
trades, but small wins, small
883
01:08:05,460 --> 01:08:09,860
targets. They're the opposite of
capturing the outlier.
884
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,400
What would capturing the outlier be?
885
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,080
Capturing the outlier would be if you
could capture this.
886
01:08:16,410 --> 01:08:22,529
whole run down, the whole new swing
down. Being able to capture this
887
01:08:22,529 --> 01:08:25,490
run is really where the power is.
888
01:08:26,189 --> 01:08:30,090
And there's some of these things that
we'll look at that do that. You can see
889
01:08:30,090 --> 01:08:34,550
right here, one of the little patterns
at the end of the swing was that three
890
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:38,970
-bar triangle in an oversold market.
Whoops, right down here.
891
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:42,649
Obviously, the break from the ABC
consolidation.
892
01:08:44,060 --> 01:08:49,080
and we'll look at how the weeklies or
the higher time frame is of critical aid
893
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,680
in bagging these extended runs.
894
01:08:54,140 --> 01:09:01,060
Now, here's a very skinny scalp at the
top of this extended run, okay, and
895
01:09:01,060 --> 01:09:05,899
we're going to look at the numbers
between when is the market too
896
01:09:05,899 --> 01:09:08,540
too oversold to really play this.
897
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:15,880
Okay,
898
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,819
the tables were coming to that, but the
tables simply will show that once you
899
01:09:21,819 --> 01:09:28,420
hit 22 closes on one side of this five
SMA, it's actually better
900
01:09:28,420 --> 01:09:32,200
to trade in the direction of the first
cross.
901
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:38,340
So, yes, something can become way too
oversold or way too overbought that you
902
01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:42,420
would not want to do a retracement trade
at the end of it.
903
01:09:42,859 --> 01:09:45,120
Now, here's another thing that's really
cool.
904
01:09:45,819 --> 01:09:51,040
Every single market that we've modeled,
and there's about 28 futures markets,
905
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:57,580
including the currencies and the bonds
and soybeans and everything, every
906
01:09:57,580 --> 01:10:04,360
market has had at least 28 closes on one
side of a five SMA.
907
01:10:04,820 --> 01:10:10,480
Think about that. That's ridiculous.
That's like five weeks of steady grind.
908
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:14,750
And if you think that you're smart
enough to know when the bottom is going
909
01:10:14,750 --> 01:10:20,070
come in or the top is going to come in,
it's extremely dangerous to try and play
910
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:20,929
that game.
911
01:10:20,930 --> 01:10:26,530
So we started off asking, okay, what
happens if we actually go long
912
01:10:26,530 --> 01:10:32,130
when a market has had ten closes on one
side of the five SMA?
913
01:10:32,730 --> 01:10:36,090
I mean, wouldn't you think that the
market's very overbought?
914
01:10:36,410 --> 01:10:40,290
Why would you possibly want to go long
if it had already been up ten days?
915
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,760
And then we said, well, okay, then hold
it for 10 days after that.
916
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:51,640
And so we did this type of modeling
where here's a case where we were going
917
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:57,060
short after 10 days, and then we covered
the short after 10 days.
918
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,140
Here's another case where you went short
after 10 days and covered after 10
919
01:11:02,140 --> 01:11:03,140
days.
920
01:11:03,260 --> 01:11:08,860
Now, mind you, I'm not suggesting that
you do this as a system, nor am I
921
01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:09,860
suggesting.
922
01:11:10,140 --> 01:11:11,720
that you do this as a trade.
923
01:11:12,180 --> 01:11:18,640
But what it does illustrate to us is
that there's a ridiculous power to this
924
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:24,740
trend, to this degree of trend. And it's
hard for our brains to conceive of just
925
01:11:24,740 --> 01:11:27,180
how far this trend can go.
926
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,580
Natural gas.
927
01:11:30,730 --> 01:11:35,010
This was one entering six days and
exiting six days later. And then I'll
928
01:11:35,010 --> 01:11:36,450
you the table for all these things.
929
01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:41,570
Now, at this point, you pulled back.
You'd say, who's going to go short
930
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:45,270
That would be crazy. We're oversold. We
just bonked down a little bit.
931
01:11:45,650 --> 01:11:49,930
But then we proceeded to bonk down even
more. And then who's going to short down
932
01:11:49,930 --> 01:11:53,590
here? Because at this point, you had
one, two, three, four, five, six.
933
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:58,110
Six closes, and that's what we're
modeling. Who's going to go short here?
934
01:11:58,110 --> 01:11:59,110
be crazy.
935
01:11:59,290 --> 01:12:00,850
But it still turned out a winner.
936
01:12:01,190 --> 01:12:08,090
And this is the grid that shows that at
the top on
937
01:12:08,090 --> 01:12:12,510
this here, the number of days after we
entered.
938
01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:18,130
Okay, so say, for example, you've only
had four closes above.
939
01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:24,230
You can see that's not very profitable
to go long after four closes.
940
01:12:25,810 --> 01:12:28,170
Here you have eight closes above.
941
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:35,280
And if we go across over here, the
number on the left, whoops, I got it
942
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,900
backwards. Okay, so this would be
entering after five closes, exiting
943
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:45,420
four, five, six, seven, eight days. You
can see, not a significant number. If
944
01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:50,120
anything, you would want to make a
counter trend trade after five days.
945
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:56,280
But when we start to jump to eight days
on one side of that five -period simple
946
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,280
moving average,
947
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:04,480
Look what happens if we exit five days
later, six days later, seven days later,
948
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:10,440
eight days later. The longer the holding
time, the greater the profit potential.
949
01:13:10,940 --> 01:13:16,320
It was such an eye -opener to me to see
that I could enter on day eight when it
950
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:21,640
felt like the trend had really gotten
away from me, and yet still the power of
951
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,640
these numbers is saying, nope, can still
easily go for another week or two.
952
01:13:27,310 --> 01:13:32,570
Now you can also see what happens when
you enter on after 19 days.
953
01:13:32,990 --> 01:13:38,070
After 19 days, the results start to get
fairly negative, and that was the
954
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:41,130
threshold at which we said we don't want
to play that game anymore.
955
01:13:43,470 --> 01:13:44,470
Okay, so.
956
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,060
This was sort of the composition, the
makeup of these markets.
957
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:55,760
And I always remove the biggest winner
and the biggest loser then to see what
958
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:02,140
the results would look like after that.
Because, as you know, with systems or a
959
01:14:02,140 --> 01:14:08,560
model, it's going to be very dependent
on just a few markets making the bulk of
960
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:13,940
the profits. For example, a trend
-following system, we might have a
961
01:14:13,940 --> 01:14:15,020
15 different.
962
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:19,670
stocks or futures that we're using in
our trend following system, but truly
963
01:14:19,670 --> 01:14:25,070
what's going to happen is three of those
are going to make up 70 % of the
964
01:14:25,070 --> 01:14:31,450
profit. So I still have to see that if I
remove the biggest winners from my test
965
01:14:31,450 --> 01:14:34,730
result, do I still have a viable edge?
966
01:14:35,090 --> 01:14:38,810
That's something that I always consider
in my modeling or testing.
967
01:14:39,570 --> 01:14:44,490
Remove the biggest winner and
conversely, I'll also look at removing
968
01:14:44,490 --> 01:14:50,770
loser because that could be perhaps a
big gap or a big outlier that might not
969
01:14:50,770 --> 01:14:54,770
happen again. I just want to see that it
works on both sides of that.
970
01:14:55,390 --> 01:15:02,310
So here is where we're talking about
going with the reversal, and this
971
01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:04,690
is when things do get parabolic.
972
01:15:05,330 --> 01:15:09,110
So you can see a case here on these 10
-year notes.
973
01:15:09,930 --> 01:15:16,410
Can you believe we had almost 26 closes
on one side of that five SMA?
974
01:15:16,590 --> 01:15:21,830
You can see how dangerous it is to try
and pick a bottom. And even if you
975
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:25,850
thought, oh, this is a selling climax
here, it's so seductive. And then the
976
01:15:25,850 --> 01:15:27,910
day we spike right back up.
977
01:15:28,410 --> 01:15:33,610
But, no, there's still more to go. And
trust me, we've all gotten caught in
978
01:15:33,610 --> 01:15:34,610
these traps.
979
01:15:34,690 --> 01:15:39,370
But it's just the power of the numbers.
Here with the first close above. So now
980
01:15:39,370 --> 01:15:42,530
what happens if you went long on the
first close above?
981
01:15:42,750 --> 01:15:46,930
And then, of course, we test exit day
one, day two, day three, day four. And
982
01:15:46,930 --> 01:15:52,350
when something gets that overextended,
then you can play a total countertrend
983
01:15:52,350 --> 01:15:53,350
game.
984
01:15:57,879 --> 01:16:02,940
Actually, you can see in stocks, you can
see in futures, you can see in almost
985
01:16:02,940 --> 01:16:09,240
every single year examples of this. And
it just keeps it open to the fact that
986
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:14,740
there's these radical occurrences that
we don't normally see in the data. We're
987
01:16:14,740 --> 01:16:19,880
so used to seeing something that happens
with a regular frequency that when we
988
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,200
do get, like, for example, the radical
sell -off that we had at the end of the
989
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,810
year. You know, it rattles us just a
little bit because we can't say, oh, it
990
01:16:28,810 --> 01:16:31,850
happened like this and this year, this
year, this year, this year.
991
01:16:32,110 --> 01:16:37,470
So, therefore, the confidence, your
confidence seems to be at a much lower
992
01:16:37,470 --> 01:16:43,270
level, right? Right? I mean, at least
that's the way I work. And, of course,
993
01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:48,210
goes without saying that it's always
obvious after the fact, right? So if I
994
01:16:48,210 --> 01:16:52,830
there and I only had the data up to this
point, you'd just think, um.
995
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,080
I get to play with my pen again here.
996
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,200
It doesn't matter.
997
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,100
At this point...
998
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:12,540
You can't see what's coming. I mean, as
a technician, you can draw trend lines
999
01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:13,840
and say there's a triangle.
1000
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:19,380
You could even do some type of measured
move. The width of the triangle might
1001
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:24,040
project down to here. There's all kinds
of things we can do to open our eyes,
1002
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:28,300
and that's the importance of technical
analysis too, such as point and figure
1003
01:17:28,300 --> 01:17:32,920
charts. Point and figure charts will
give you the count or the sideways line
1004
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,040
that can give you a downside count.
1005
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:40,920
But remember, I said, things always go
further than we think they will. And
1006
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,780
that's so important in trading and
investing, just to be aware of risk.
1007
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:53,600
If I had to say that sums up the bulk of
my experience after 39 years, it's that
1008
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:54,600
the market.
1009
01:17:55,080 --> 01:18:00,680
continues to surprise me every month,
every year. I never know what's going to
1010
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:05,540
happen. And I just, it's like the more
I've been in the markets, the more I
1011
01:18:05,540 --> 01:18:08,660
that I don't know if that makes sense.
1012
01:18:08,980 --> 01:18:14,000
That used to be Mike Epstein's favorite
expression.
1013
01:18:14,890 --> 01:18:20,570
Maria Mulder, Mike Epstein was a
longtime member of the Market
1014
01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:26,390
Association and APTA, and I actually
have a whole chapter in the book
1015
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:31,170
to him because he was sort of a
surrogate father to me and told me all
1016
01:18:31,170 --> 01:18:32,170
amazing stories.
1017
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:37,190
He started off on the floor of the New
York Stock Exchange in 1950.
1018
01:18:39,260 --> 01:18:43,520
50 years on the trading floor. I don't
know of anybody else that was on a
1019
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,680
trading floor for 50 years and had
memberships to almost every exchange at
1020
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:55,940
point. And he ended up becoming the
resident, what do
1021
01:18:55,940 --> 01:19:02,220
you call it, head of the department for
MIT for their quantitative finance
1022
01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:04,500
quant lab.
1023
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,840
You know, he was there for eight years
before he passed.
1024
01:19:12,730 --> 01:19:18,970
Last time I visited him was up in
Boston, and he had been losing his
1025
01:19:18,970 --> 01:19:25,230
from diabetes, and he had this giant
magnifying glass, I mean like
1026
01:19:25,230 --> 01:19:30,490
six inches across, and he's staring at
his one monitor with this giant
1027
01:19:30,490 --> 01:19:34,870
magnifying glass so he could see
something. And it was at that time that
1028
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:36,990
bonds were just breaking out to the
upside.
1029
01:19:37,790 --> 01:19:42,730
30 -year yields were dropping below 4 %
for the first time in my lifetime at
1030
01:19:42,730 --> 01:19:49,110
least. And Mike said to me, I don't know
why they're going up, but I'm long.
1031
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:50,490
It's a breakout.
1032
01:19:51,330 --> 01:19:55,850
And it was a point like this with the
triangle. Nobody could see that it was
1033
01:19:55,850 --> 01:20:02,070
going to go straight up, you know, for
goodness knows, multiple, multiple
1034
01:20:02,570 --> 01:20:06,330
And I'm trying to get out of this pen
mode so I can.
1035
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:10,840
Advance to the next slide here. Any
help?
1036
01:20:11,180 --> 01:20:15,340
Yes, of course. Yeah, just press the
normal mode.
1037
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,280
Oh, normal mode. Okay, there we go.
1038
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:20,200
All righty.
1039
01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:26,060
So anyway, that was, to me, probably one
of the best technicians and best
1040
01:20:26,060 --> 01:20:29,640
traders and most savvy market people I
know.
1041
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:35,360
Mike Epstein, and here he is, long on a
breakout, and he goes, I have no idea
1042
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:41,160
why it's doing what it's doing, but he
was positioned in that direction, and
1043
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,240
that really struck a note with me. He
goes, I have no idea where it's going to
1044
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,740
go, but he was just along for the ride.
1045
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:52,620
Okay, here's another case of just a few
silver SM.
1046
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:57,640
I wanted to show this just on one or two
markets, and trust me, you will find
1047
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:04,600
this equally well with stocks buying the
retracement after you've had
1048
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:05,940
a persistency of trend.
1049
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:11,360
So you see there's two concepts here. We
can have momentum concept where a
1050
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,820
market makes new momentum highs or lows,
and it can do that in a very brief
1051
01:21:15,820 --> 01:21:16,820
period of time.
1052
01:21:17,130 --> 01:21:22,270
But then you also have a different
concept relating to trend that's this
1053
01:21:22,270 --> 01:21:27,330
persistency of trend and how long it can
sustain itself.
1054
01:21:27,930 --> 01:21:34,430
And as you know, the old saying goes,
trends always have greater odds of
1055
01:21:34,430 --> 01:21:37,530
continuation than they do of reversal.
1056
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:44,410
And then, of course, up at the very top,
we had just gotten too overextended.
1057
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:51,540
price overlap here. That's the market
coming into balance, and then it breaks
1058
01:21:51,540 --> 01:21:58,240
the downside and led to some more severe
sell -offs. So this particular
1059
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,940
model, these test results were done up
to 2008.
1060
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:07,780
So the numbers, if I updated this, which
I haven't been able to do because my
1061
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,060
The fellow that used to work for me put
together all these grids. But the
1062
01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:16,720
numbers are about double what you'd see
on here now just because the range is so
1063
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:17,659
much greater.
1064
01:22:17,660 --> 01:22:23,840
And that is if we had 19 closes on one
side and then we initiated in the
1065
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:29,660
direction of the reversal and exited
after one day, two day, three day, you
1066
01:22:29,660 --> 01:22:32,540
there's a window there of positive
expectation.
1067
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,620
So that's a summary of some of the
modeling work I do.
1068
01:22:37,860 --> 01:22:39,220
Where's the expectation?
1069
01:22:39,660 --> 01:22:41,060
Where's the positive expectation?
1070
01:22:41,780 --> 01:22:46,540
What does it tell us about the market?
Does it tell us about the strength of
1071
01:22:46,540 --> 01:22:51,800
trend or the sustainability of the trend
and so forth? Always asking these
1072
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,840
questions. Now, this is a different type
of modeling because we were feeling
1073
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:02,560
pretty frisky. I had Nigel working for
me for 10 years, and he was just a
1074
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,398
at using.
1075
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:09,200
all different types of software to model
different things. And it started off by
1076
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:16,200
saying, okay, with the S &Ps, if we
bracketed everything down into five
1077
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:22,460
windows, let's get the distribution of
when the highs and the lows for the day
1078
01:23:22,460 --> 01:23:23,460
are made.
1079
01:23:23,540 --> 01:23:29,340
And interestingly enough, with the S
&Ps, if you just looked at the pit
1080
01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:30,340
only,
1081
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,580
The best time of day for highs to be
made would
1082
01:23:35,580 --> 01:23:40,700
be in the first 15 minutes.
1083
01:23:40,940 --> 01:23:47,600
So in other words, the market opened and
pretty much broke on a number of days.
1084
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,380
Now, obviously, there's a distribution
all across the days. It's just that this
1085
01:23:51,380 --> 01:23:54,020
was the data point that stuck out the
most.
1086
01:23:54,580 --> 01:24:01,020
And for looking for the longs, when the
lows were made, it most often fell.
1087
01:24:01,450 --> 01:24:03,430
30 minutes after the opening.
1088
01:24:03,730 --> 01:24:10,470
So what that tells me is that the short
side is much more urgent. If a market
1089
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:15,890
opens and it's going to make its highs
for the day in that first hour, it's
1090
01:24:15,890 --> 01:24:18,570
more urgent right off that opening
price.
1091
01:24:18,930 --> 01:24:25,390
Whereas if it's going to rally, it tends
to form an initial balance first and
1092
01:24:25,390 --> 01:24:27,170
then break out to the upside.
1093
01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:32,900
Now, of course, things are a little bit
different with the urgency nowadays with
1094
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:38,020
the overnight gaps and stuff. But I took
that idea and I said, well, this should
1095
01:24:38,020 --> 01:24:39,020
be fairly easy.
1096
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:46,540
Let's just model the whole 24 hours for
every market and see where the time of
1097
01:24:46,540 --> 01:24:47,740
day is that we should trade.
1098
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,320
And when I did that, I got nothing.
1099
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,340
I didn't get anything at all. There was
no.
1100
01:24:55,469 --> 01:24:59,430
prominent distribution point or
something that would catch our
1101
01:24:59,430 --> 01:25:02,250
thinking, hmm, how could that be? That
doesn't make sense.
1102
01:25:02,910 --> 01:25:09,550
But then when we broke it up into the
market sessions, start of Asia, start
1103
01:25:09,550 --> 01:25:16,470
of Europe, start of the U .S. session,
that's where we would see the spikes
1104
01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:20,250
would say when the highs or lows for the
day most frequently occurred.
1105
01:25:21,370 --> 01:25:25,930
So you can see here when does a high
occur most frequently in these markets.
1106
01:25:26,410 --> 01:25:28,290
And I've got gold,
1107
01:25:29,090 --> 01:25:34,050
the S &Ps, the EC, and the crude. I just
took four markets here, and you can see
1108
01:25:34,050 --> 01:25:36,810
each of them are colored, but it
shouldn't really matter.
1109
01:25:38,230 --> 01:25:44,550
And these spikes are when the highs are
being made. So here's around Europe
1110
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:47,670
open, and this is central time, by the
way.
1111
01:25:48,370 --> 01:25:50,030
U .S. open here.
1112
01:25:50,879 --> 01:25:54,160
This is actually Europe close.
1113
01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:56,480
And then this is Asia open.
1114
01:25:58,300 --> 01:26:01,040
And same thing for when the lows are
made.
1115
01:26:01,620 --> 01:26:06,060
So very often you see lows made in the
middle of the day when Europe's closing
1116
01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:07,060
the end of the session.
1117
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:13,440
And same thing, lows made right on
Europe open, on U .S. session open, and
1118
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:18,780
open. So what that tells us is any time
that you have a fresh.
1119
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:24,560
new batch of new market participants
entering that market or just sitting
1120
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,520
and looking at it, you tend to get a
little bit more urgency, a lot more
1121
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:34,520
comes in at that period, and that's
where truly if you were to do some type
1122
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,720
breakout strategy, you would want to
organize it so that you were doing
1123
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:45,280
breakouts from that early session, from
the Asia session open or the Europe
1124
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,280
session open.
1125
01:26:46,590 --> 01:26:51,650
or the U .S. session open. And I just
thought that was really insightful, how
1126
01:26:51,650 --> 01:26:58,630
important it is for us to be prepared at
the start of the trading day, because
1127
01:26:58,630 --> 01:27:00,270
that's when the opportunity is.
1128
01:27:01,650 --> 01:27:03,330
Hold on one second here.
1129
01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:16,950
Okay, this next model was some Bollinger
Band work, looking at standard
1130
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:21,930
deviations. And even though this table
is way out of date, I wanted to show you
1131
01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:28,330
some things that were very insightful
about the price behavior because we did
1132
01:27:28,330 --> 01:27:34,090
lot of modeling time of day that we
could do counter trend trades and
1133
01:27:34,090 --> 01:27:37,710
days of the week that we could do
counter trend trades.
1134
01:27:38,349 --> 01:27:42,430
So all we did here was take a five
-minute S &P chart.
1135
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:47,490
And by the way, this is a concept that
will hold true for many different
1136
01:27:47,490 --> 01:27:52,370
markets. But we took a five -minute S &P
chart, and all we did was say if it
1137
01:27:52,370 --> 01:27:58,910
hits the Bollinger Band, which is two
standard deviations centered around the
1138
01:27:58,910 --> 01:28:00,750
20 -period moving average,
1139
01:28:01,580 --> 01:28:06,060
If we took that first trade and then
exited when it came back to the moving
1140
01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:09,840
average. So it's a reversion to the mean
type of program.
1141
01:28:10,060 --> 01:28:14,080
We don't have any filters on this at
all. It could be any type of day, and
1142
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,320
the reversion to the mean type of thing.
1143
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:20,780
And you'll see right here there's
definitely a positive expectation,
1144
01:28:20,780 --> 01:28:25,360
you would not do blindly on a mechanical
basis because obviously you could have
1145
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:30,540
a day like today that just opened and
trended or yesterday opened and trended
1146
01:28:30,540 --> 01:28:31,540
the Russell.
1147
01:28:31,620 --> 01:28:37,920
But what was interesting was it only
worked in the morning. It didn't work in
1148
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:38,920
the afternoon.
1149
01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:44,240
So what that tells us is that there's
the most uncertainty in the morning as
1150
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:48,820
well, and that's where you can start to
get a little bit more testing and
1151
01:28:48,820 --> 01:28:54,440
rotations in the opening session, and
also why you don't want to fade a trend
1152
01:28:54,440 --> 01:29:00,520
that happens after 12 noon. It's very a
low -odd type of trade.
1153
01:29:01,150 --> 01:29:05,830
So if you like to do counter trend
trades, look for it early in the
1154
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:10,910
the morning session before lunch. And
you can see it's a fairly hefty win rate
1155
01:29:10,910 --> 01:29:11,910
here.
1156
01:29:12,130 --> 01:29:17,210
And somehow it manages to eke out a
profit, even though you know it probably
1157
01:29:17,210 --> 01:29:19,990
smacked on some trend days as well,
right?
1158
01:29:20,370 --> 01:29:26,270
And also what was interesting is that it
worked better for the end of the week.
1159
01:29:26,330 --> 01:29:29,750
So we find that the P &L.
1160
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:34,550
radically went up on a Friday, and that
was because Fridays tend to have
1161
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:35,870
narrower ranges.
1162
01:29:36,550 --> 01:29:38,030
There's not that urgency.
1163
01:29:38,860 --> 01:29:43,920
that you would find at the opening of
the market or the opening of the week,
1164
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,920
start of the week, you know, where you
can get a much more urgent market, which
1165
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,480
could run over a counter trend trade.
1166
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:54,040
Whereas on Friday, pretty much we know
where the ranges were for the week, and
1167
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,840
it's going to back and fill and test a
little bit more. And so that I also
1168
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:02,580
thought was a very interesting
observation, and that still holds true.
1169
01:30:04,060 --> 01:30:05,860
So this is...
1170
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,160
I know that you'll have the slides, and
I don't want to spend too much time
1171
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:16,820
reading every slide, but this was very
important for us in doing our
1172
01:30:16,820 --> 01:30:20,700
modeling. I need to have at least five
or ten years of data.
1173
01:30:21,340 --> 01:30:26,360
And I want to see a consistent equity
curve. I don't want a system or a model
1174
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,740
that was distorted because it had two
exceptional years.
1175
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:36,500
You know, I can't base an S &P trading
system off of 2009 volatility because
1176
01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:39,120
I'll never be able to duplicate those
results again.
1177
01:30:39,540 --> 01:30:43,820
You know, same thing with trend
-following systems. You need to make
1178
01:30:43,820 --> 01:30:47,020
it's over a very long, long duration.
1179
01:30:48,110 --> 01:30:54,590
And then the second thing, too, is if
you are looking at a system, don't take
1180
01:30:54,590 --> 01:30:58,630
for granted that you're getting filled
where your system says that it would. So
1181
01:30:58,630 --> 01:31:03,750
when I look at the results, I know that
I'm probably not going to be able to
1182
01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:05,690
match that in my real -time trading.
1183
01:31:05,970 --> 01:31:08,850
It's just that way that it works out.
1184
01:31:10,250 --> 01:31:13,030
So these are just some other little
tips.
1185
01:31:16,570 --> 01:31:21,130
win -loss ratio, by George, that's got
to be fabulous to trade on a mechanical
1186
01:31:21,130 --> 01:31:27,930
basis. But an 80 % win -loss ratio can
have six losers in a row. So can you
1187
01:31:27,930 --> 01:31:29,150
tolerate that?
1188
01:31:30,270 --> 01:31:37,230
Okay, here's another fun trade because
we still do this every day,
1189
01:31:37,370 --> 01:31:41,930
just about every day. It doesn't mean
that we do it mechanically, but this was
1190
01:31:41,930 --> 01:31:43,490
gap strategy.
1191
01:31:44,510 --> 01:31:49,050
This also is a story in the book about
this gentleman.
1192
01:31:49,310 --> 01:31:52,790
I will give him the name of Genghis
because that's what he called himself.
1193
01:31:53,710 --> 01:31:58,190
He came to work for me, and I told him
he could trade for himself.
1194
01:31:59,010 --> 01:32:04,990
Right away, he's initiating trades,
counter -trend trades on the gap up or
1195
01:32:04,990 --> 01:32:05,909
gap down.
1196
01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:08,250
I said, Genghis, what are you doing?
1197
01:32:08,530 --> 01:32:10,630
He said, I'm doing the burning dog.
1198
01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:12,850
I said, what do you mean the burning
dog?
1199
01:32:13,090 --> 01:32:14,090
He says,
1200
01:32:14,510 --> 01:32:17,190
well, have you ever tried to pet a
burning dog?
1201
01:32:17,470 --> 01:32:21,330
And I'm like, no, that was a terrible
concept. So it was the thing that when
1202
01:32:21,330 --> 01:32:26,090
there was a large gap at that time, it
was so shook up people that nobody
1203
01:32:26,090 --> 01:32:30,210
wanted to touch it. And he was blindly
fading these things. And I said, you
1204
01:32:30,210 --> 01:32:35,650
can't do that, you know, because your
risk is high. We need to model this and
1205
01:32:35,650 --> 01:32:37,770
see what the actual statistics are.
1206
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:43,200
So here's the way it pans out. And keep
in mind that this was just using a
1207
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:49,180
generic four points, which obviously
means nothing in 2009 when the average
1208
01:32:49,180 --> 01:32:50,180
range was huge.
1209
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,940
But these are good gap rules. They're
good gap rules for stocks.
1210
01:32:54,300 --> 01:32:59,820
They're good gap rules for pit session
openings. Good gap rules in general.
1211
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,560
And the trick with the gap is that the
first play.
1212
01:33:05,809 --> 01:33:11,190
should be to trade back into the gap
within two hours. Okay, that's what the
1213
01:33:11,190 --> 01:33:15,790
most probable thing to do would be. So
we always looked at if you took the
1214
01:33:15,790 --> 01:33:22,330
opening price, can we get four points
back into the gap if that gap
1215
01:33:22,330 --> 01:33:24,130
was greater than four points?
1216
01:33:24,350 --> 01:33:29,190
That sounds pretty simple. Market gaps
up more than four points. Can we trade
1217
01:33:29,190 --> 01:33:30,590
into the gap by four points?
1218
01:33:31,090 --> 01:33:32,490
And we found that.
1219
01:33:32,910 --> 01:33:39,830
pretty much you get about a 70 % win
rate if you played that game.
1220
01:33:39,950 --> 01:33:46,690
Some years it's been 76%, some years
it's been 68%, but pretty much 75 %
1221
01:33:46,690 --> 01:33:50,770
of the time you will trade back into
that gap by four points.
1222
01:33:51,460 --> 01:33:55,140
Okay, so that's a good start. That means
that if the market gaps up, you want to
1223
01:33:55,140 --> 01:33:58,820
tape read it for just a little bit and
then see if you get your trade back into
1224
01:33:58,820 --> 01:33:59,559
the gap.
1225
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:04,740
Same thing with stocks. You know, the
first thing that if it stock gaps, we
1226
01:34:04,740 --> 01:34:07,540
to see if it trades back into the gap by
a little bit.
1227
01:34:08,380 --> 01:34:14,980
But then we said, well, what happens if
you don't get your gap filled?
1228
01:34:15,580 --> 01:34:17,580
And what we found is that.
1229
01:34:18,190 --> 01:34:23,010
If you didn't get your trade into the
gap of four points, that meant greater
1230
01:34:23,010 --> 01:34:26,550
odds that you would then trade in the
direction of the original gap.
1231
01:34:26,770 --> 01:34:28,570
Well, that makes total sense, right?
1232
01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:34,730
So what we do now is if the market gaps
by more than four points and it doesn't
1233
01:34:34,730 --> 01:34:38,950
trade into that gap by four points,
we're going to be very aggressive about
1234
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:43,290
looking to trade in the direction of the
trend in that afternoon session.
1235
01:34:43,890 --> 01:34:45,130
It held its gap.
1236
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,000
A breakaway gap can gap and trend.
1237
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:53,560
And so same thing with stocks. I know
that a lot of you are stock traders, and
1238
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,660
you're probably pretty familiar with the
fact that if a stock gaps up and it
1239
01:34:57,660 --> 01:35:04,200
does not trade much into the gap, in the
next three days you have greater odds
1240
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,040
of going out another week in the
direction of the original gap.
1241
01:35:08,340 --> 01:35:11,800
So those can be really powerful gaps if
a stock doesn't.
1242
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:17,320
to make attempt to fill that gap within
the next three or four trading days. You
1243
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,340
want to be positioned in the direction
of that gap.
1244
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:26,440
So this was just kind of cool. This is
how we modeled the table. I know it just
1245
01:35:26,440 --> 01:35:31,140
looks like a bunch of numbers and stuff,
but the fact of the matter is this just
1246
01:35:31,140 --> 01:35:36,500
showed like every 15 minutes, every five
minutes where the inflection point was,
1247
01:35:36,540 --> 01:35:41,120
and we pretty much came to the fact that
One o 'clock right here, one o 'clock
1248
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:47,060
was where you would want to go in the
direction of the gap should you do that.
1249
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:52,080
So days of the week. Lastly, days of the
weeks.
1250
01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:56,600
We wanted to see if there are certain
days that are trendier than others. And
1251
01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:01,880
already mentioned this, that Friday
tends to be the least trendy day of the
1252
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:08,730
week. And this was, again, just a very
generic, generic Bollinger Band type of
1253
01:36:08,730 --> 01:36:15,510
model. And when I say this type of
testing, we usually do like 500 sample
1254
01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:21,330
size, you know. So it doesn't look like
anything when you look at the P &L,
1255
01:36:21,450 --> 01:36:23,230
okay. That's not the point.
1256
01:36:23,450 --> 01:36:24,790
But the point is that.
1257
01:36:25,340 --> 01:36:30,740
In general, Mondays and Tuesdays were
the worst days to sit there and look for
1258
01:36:30,740 --> 01:36:35,540
counter trend trades. They actually
tended to be the trendiest days of the
1259
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:41,540
Mondays and Tuesdays. And then you can
see here it totally dropped off at the
1260
01:36:41,540 --> 01:36:42,540
end of the week.
1261
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,420
I'm not quite sure why these are.
1262
01:36:47,020 --> 01:36:50,300
Here was my table that was supposed to
be in here.
1263
01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:56,800
when we made those new momentum highs
and momentum lows on the two -period
1264
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:01,400
of change. I know you're all going to
have these slides, so you can go back
1265
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:06,480
I'll make sure that this is in the
proper order then when I give them to
1266
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:13,400
But the bonds, 90 % of the time that you
make a new momentum high or low, you
1267
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:17,280
then follow through and get higher
prices.
1268
01:37:19,770 --> 01:37:24,910
also was an important eye -opener to me,
divergences, because divergences are
1269
01:37:24,910 --> 01:37:26,390
really seductive, right?
1270
01:37:26,670 --> 01:37:32,110
I mean, they look so easy to recognize
as a pattern, and we did a pretty darn
1271
01:37:32,110 --> 01:37:37,910
good job of programming in a divergence
into the computer, and you all know what
1272
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:42,110
they are, where the price makes a higher
high, and an oscillator or a momentum
1273
01:37:42,110 --> 01:37:48,090
function makes a lower high, and so we
wanted to see what happened if the
1274
01:37:48,090 --> 01:37:54,740
divergence didn't work, and if the
divergence did work, how long was the
1275
01:37:54,740 --> 01:37:56,660
average trade in duration?
1276
01:37:56,940 --> 01:38:01,980
Okay, so these are all the little
statistics that we used to program it.
1277
01:38:01,980 --> 01:38:08,820
what we found out is that when a
divergence fails, okay, really
1278
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:14,960
when a divergence fails, it can go four
to five ATRs against you.
1279
01:38:15,550 --> 01:38:19,490
And it continued to move for 15 bars
against you.
1280
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:26,190
So what that tells you is that you darn
well better need a stop in place if
1281
01:38:26,190 --> 01:38:30,490
you're making a counter trend momentum
trade, thinking that there's a
1282
01:38:30,490 --> 01:38:36,950
divergence. And when it does work, it
tends to hit that moving average within
1283
01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:38,590
four to seven bars.
1284
01:38:39,110 --> 01:38:43,710
So if you don't show a profit after four
to seven bars, you want to get out.
1285
01:38:44,650 --> 01:38:49,050
Because then if it takes you out, it's
going to go 15 bars against you, you
1286
01:38:49,190 --> 01:38:53,350
So divergences are seductive, but we
don't look at all the times that the
1287
01:38:53,350 --> 01:38:54,810
divergences fail.
1288
01:38:55,110 --> 01:39:00,110
And one of the cases where a divergence
fails is when the higher time frame
1289
01:39:00,110 --> 01:39:02,810
momentum is just too strong.
1290
01:39:03,290 --> 01:39:09,370
For example, it might look like there's
a daily cell divergence, but if the
1291
01:39:09,370 --> 01:39:11,790
weekly charts are making new momentum
highs,
1292
01:39:12,910 --> 01:39:17,830
It can totally run over those momentum
divergences on the dailies. And I know
1293
01:39:17,830 --> 01:39:23,410
for those of you that trade on shorter
time frames, hourly charts, five -minute
1294
01:39:23,410 --> 01:39:28,310
charts, what happens when there's a five
-minute buy divergence that fails to
1295
01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:29,310
yield anything?
1296
01:39:29,650 --> 01:39:33,590
It's going to get crushed because those
hourlies are in a free fall to the
1297
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:39,950
downside. So always check your higher
time frame to put it back into context.
1298
01:39:40,010 --> 01:39:43,480
That context is... So important.
1299
01:39:43,780 --> 01:39:48,900
And this was the average bars in a
winning trade when there was these
1300
01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:53,520
divergences. This is a prior period of
history, but it still holds true.
1301
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:58,400
So your average bars in a winning trade
were just six or seven bars.
1302
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:04,060
And then if it was a losing trade, which
meant that you shorted and you had to
1303
01:40:04,060 --> 01:40:09,820
hold until it hit that moving average,
how many times has anybody said, well,
1304
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,460
I'm going to get out when it retraces
back to the moving average.
1305
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:20,880
Don't say that because you can see how
many bars it can go against you. That is
1306
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:21,880
a trap.
1307
01:40:22,660 --> 01:40:28,480
Okay, lastly, we're coming down to the
system that I was telling you about that
1308
01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:31,540
tells us how noisy markets can go.
1309
01:40:31,820 --> 01:40:37,400
And this is an ADX is something that
measures the amount of bar overlap.
1310
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:42,320
So if we have a really low ADX, there's
usually a chart formation.
1311
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,700
It could be a big, long triangle or a
big, long rectangle.
1312
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:51,420
And we initially thought, hey, this is a
piece of cake. Let's just look for the
1313
01:40:51,420 --> 01:40:56,200
low ADXs, and we'll take a break out on
the 20 -day high or the 20 -day low.
1314
01:40:56,300 --> 01:40:59,520
That would make sense if you're looking
to do a trend -following system, right?
1315
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,680
Wrong, because the results got too many
whip thoughts.
1316
01:41:05,819 --> 01:41:09,940
So here's some of the results for the
low win rate.
1317
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:16,500
When we had a low ADX and we're taking
the breakout of the 20 -day high or low,
1318
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:18,380
look at the percent profitable.
1319
01:41:19,140 --> 01:41:20,140
That's terrible.
1320
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,460
You wouldn't think that it would be that
case.
1321
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:29,240
But yet, if we took it only when the
market had already come to life and then
1322
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,740
we're taking the breakout of a new 20
-day high or 20 -day low,
1323
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,480
Look at how the profit potential jumps
way up.
1324
01:41:37,860 --> 01:41:40,780
Isn't that crazy? It's very
counterintuitive.
1325
01:41:41,140 --> 01:41:44,860
That doesn't mean you're going to create
a mechanical system out of it, per se,
1326
01:41:44,980 --> 01:41:48,940
because you can see the times that it
doesn't work. Mind you, we're not using
1327
01:41:48,940 --> 01:41:52,140
any stops on this, so you can get
smacked on a loser.
1328
01:41:52,740 --> 01:41:57,500
But I just wanted to show a dramatic
difference in getting off to the correct
1329
01:41:57,500 --> 01:41:58,500
start.
1330
01:41:59,140 --> 01:42:04,250
So just to sum up what the models have
showed us, They've showed us the
1331
01:42:04,250 --> 01:42:08,630
importance of the new momentum as just
measured by raw momentum.
1332
01:42:09,550 --> 01:42:14,650
They've showed us that if you are going
to use momentum, use it with price, too.
1333
01:42:14,770 --> 01:42:19,910
You need to make new momentum highs and
new price, and then your odds of having
1334
01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:22,370
a winning trade are phenomenally higher.
1335
01:42:23,190 --> 01:42:29,350
In addition to the momentum, we can use
persistency of trend because trends go
1336
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:32,190
on longer than we think they will.
1337
01:42:32,650 --> 01:42:36,650
And they go to further extremes than we
think they will.
1338
01:42:36,930 --> 01:42:43,670
And even if we did the hardest trade
possible to enter after it's had 10
1339
01:42:43,670 --> 01:42:47,730
on one side of a moving average, you'll
still show profitability.
1340
01:42:48,370 --> 01:42:53,750
If you did that across a basket of 20
markets for a full year, you would be
1341
01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:54,750
to make a living.
1342
01:42:55,310 --> 01:42:59,430
Your stomach might churn because the
drawdowns and the volatility is pretty
1343
01:42:59,430 --> 01:43:03,030
high, but it's just the power of that
persistency of trend.
1344
01:43:03,470 --> 01:43:08,890
And then, of course, if you do have a
good trend intact, the retracement
1345
01:43:09,110 --> 01:43:12,850
there's all kinds of gimmicky, simple
little ways to quantify retracement
1346
01:43:12,850 --> 01:43:14,690
trades. You can use RSI.
1347
01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:16,110
You can use momentum.
1348
01:43:16,350 --> 01:43:17,950
You can use two -period rate of change.
1349
01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:20,910
All kinds of fun little games that you
can play.
1350
01:43:21,420 --> 01:43:27,020
But we have to put it into context first
because you don't want to be taking a
1351
01:43:27,020 --> 01:43:28,740
flag after you've.
1352
01:43:29,020 --> 01:43:32,160
just made a divergence, that will
usually be a false signal.
1353
01:43:32,700 --> 01:43:36,700
You have to be careful if you've just
had three winning flags not to take the
1354
01:43:36,700 --> 01:43:41,420
fourth one. I know what I'm saying is
common sense, but these are still all
1355
01:43:41,420 --> 01:43:46,180
different things that we could model.
The time of day functions, how important
1356
01:43:46,180 --> 01:43:50,600
it is, the start of the week, the start
of the month, the start of the day,
1357
01:43:50,740 --> 01:43:53,980
that's where you have your most
opportunity.
1358
01:43:54,800 --> 01:44:00,860
your biggest supply -demand imbalance,
the testing and the volatility tends to
1359
01:44:00,860 --> 01:44:04,340
be a little bit bigger around the first
of the month than it does in the middle
1360
01:44:04,340 --> 01:44:05,059
of the month.
1361
01:44:05,060 --> 01:44:06,440
It's just that way.
1362
01:44:07,900 --> 01:44:14,840
So let me go back, and I've got – I left
lots of time for questions here,
1363
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,020
and I'm just trying to –
1364
01:44:17,020 --> 01:44:22,320
okay.
1365
01:44:23,690 --> 01:44:27,950
I'm trying to get back to an interesting
slide here so I can – there we go.
1366
01:44:30,190 --> 01:44:31,190
All right.
1367
01:44:34,210 --> 01:44:37,850
And I have all the time in the world
here.
1368
01:44:38,850 --> 01:44:42,170
Well, Linda, first of all, I think this
was a great start.
1369
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:48,430
And let me give you a breather a little
bit here, and let me address some of the
1370
01:44:48,430 --> 01:44:51,430
points that you made here and convert
them.
1371
01:44:51,950 --> 01:44:54,070
A little bit into our Wyckoff
understanding.
1372
01:44:54,390 --> 01:45:01,170
Well, first of all, Wyckoff method
sometimes could be confused as there is,
1373
01:45:01,170 --> 01:45:04,670
know, obviously a specific structure
that the market has to follow.
1374
01:45:06,250 --> 01:45:07,550
Obviously a misconception.
1375
01:45:08,170 --> 01:45:14,790
And I would say that the Wyckoff method
is more of the reaction, our reaction to
1376
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:18,990
the market and how the price volume and
momentum signatures develop.
1377
01:45:19,390 --> 01:45:21,290
So just think about this, guys.
1378
01:45:22,740 --> 01:45:28,380
Linda is talking about how a linear
approach is not necessarily going to be
1379
01:45:28,380 --> 01:45:29,380
most profitable.
1380
01:45:29,940 --> 01:45:36,480
So therefore, reacting to how the market
develops, understanding the context
1381
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:40,620
of the signal of where it occurs is
extremely important to us.
1382
01:45:41,020 --> 01:45:47,000
And it seems like we're coming from the
same belief, from the same thought,
1383
01:45:47,260 --> 01:45:50,700
that if we see the signal, we need to
understand the context.
1384
01:45:51,130 --> 01:45:54,050
And obviously, we're using Weikert's
method for the context.
1385
01:45:54,790 --> 01:45:58,590
Alternation of state, that's the change
of the environment.
1386
01:45:58,890 --> 01:46:04,510
We usually, in Weikert's methodology,
would be looking for counter moves with
1387
01:46:04,510 --> 01:46:08,550
specific price, volume, momentum
characteristics that are going to give
1388
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:14,060
idea that a current environment... and
we are most likely from a trending
1389
01:46:14,060 --> 01:46:16,760
environment going to a non -trending
environment.
1390
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:22,400
And then vice versa, from a
consolidation, we might exhibit certain
1391
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:28,300
momentum characteristics that will
identify for us a momentum push out of
1392
01:46:28,300 --> 01:46:31,700
consolidation formation, and that could
begin the trend.
1393
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,900
Linda talked about using multiple
timeframes.
1394
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:41,440
and how many times have we talked about
this in the classes of looking at the
1395
01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:45,600
daily chart, but looking at the weekly
chart and understanding the higher time
1396
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:50,240
frame, what is happening on the daily
within the context of the weekly chart,
1397
01:46:50,440 --> 01:46:55,300
what is happening on the daily or on the
intranet within the context of the
1398
01:46:55,300 --> 01:46:56,300
daily.
1399
01:46:56,480 --> 01:47:02,060
I absolutely love the idea of the
persistency of the trend.
1400
01:47:02,590 --> 01:47:07,730
Think about where persistency is going
to be most sustainable.
1401
01:47:08,150 --> 01:47:14,510
We see from the stock market off the
lows in 2009, in 2010,
1402
01:47:14,990 --> 01:47:21,310
11, 12, 15, 16, and then
1403
01:47:21,310 --> 01:47:27,030
to the downside as well. We're seeing
the first wave of momentum.
1404
01:47:28,750 --> 01:47:33,170
give us an indication of the
institutional buying because it's the
1405
01:47:33,170 --> 01:47:39,170
institutional buying of the lows, of the
points of value and liquidity within
1406
01:47:39,170 --> 01:47:45,490
the structure of the much longer time
frame of a secular and cyclical
1407
01:47:45,820 --> 01:47:49,460
let's say bull market, those are going
to be the spots where institutions are
1408
01:47:49,460 --> 01:47:52,820
going to be most interested. They're
going to buy, and that's going to
1409
01:47:52,820 --> 01:47:55,700
that initial momentum and sustainability
of the trend.
1410
01:47:55,920 --> 01:48:00,500
So a very interesting idea there. Also,
we have to think about the persistence
1411
01:48:00,500 --> 01:48:02,900
of the trend in the speculative
environment.
1412
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:07,040
For instance, 2017, where we had a run
-up to the upside.
1413
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:10,360
That would be that example that Linda
was describing.
1414
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:15,640
where the trend is so persistent and
sustainable on a short -term basis.
1415
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:22,920
Gap strategies, so the next three days
after the gap, such a great
1416
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:28,980
quantifiable way how Linda showed us how
a
1417
01:48:28,980 --> 01:48:35,470
test... after the gap, if sustainable at
the same price
1418
01:48:35,470 --> 01:48:39,550
closer to the gap, would most likely
indicate a continuation.
1419
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:46,630
Why? Well, because we always see on the
gap a point of liquidity where a mean
1420
01:48:46,630 --> 01:48:51,990
reversion trade comes with professional
traders. They start shorting into that.
1421
01:48:52,050 --> 01:48:57,330
So that's a burning dog, I believe. That
was the strategy. That was the name.
1422
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:02,060
And that's going to create that short
-term weakness. It's very logical for
1423
01:49:02,060 --> 01:49:07,320
professionals to do that mean reversion
trade because of how price quickly moves
1424
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:12,960
to the short -term oversold, overbought
area.
1425
01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:19,500
So if supply is being observed at that
level, then most likely we're going to
1426
01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:20,500
have a continuation.
1427
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:25,100
What else here?
1428
01:49:25,700 --> 01:49:26,700
Persistence institution.
1429
01:49:26,860 --> 01:49:27,860
Okay.
1430
01:49:28,940 --> 01:49:32,280
Yeah, I thought that was great, Linda.
Such a great start.
1431
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:37,180
And by the way, guys, let us know what
kind of questions you have for Linda.
1432
01:49:37,420 --> 01:49:44,380
Linda, while our listeners are thinking
about their questions, let me ask you a
1433
01:49:44,380 --> 01:49:47,820
question that is maybe less related to
trading.
1434
01:49:48,270 --> 01:49:51,730
but more related to your book and your
relationship with other people in the
1435
01:49:51,730 --> 01:49:52,730
field.
1436
01:49:52,890 --> 01:49:59,790
Obviously, I came out of the Golden Gate
University, and my first teacher and my
1437
01:49:59,790 --> 01:50:03,190
big mentor in life in general was Hank
Pruden.
1438
01:50:03,630 --> 01:50:10,010
Unfortunately, Hank has passed away in
2017 in August. Such a big loss for our
1439
01:50:10,010 --> 01:50:14,930
local community here in Bay Area, for
Golden Gate University, specifically for
1440
01:50:14,930 --> 01:50:19,910
TFASF. a local technical analysis
organization here in San Francisco.
1441
01:50:21,030 --> 01:50:27,610
And for a lot of other organizations,
Hank has belonged to MTA, to APTA, to
1442
01:50:27,610 --> 01:50:33,030
IFTA. Linda, I want to ask, what was
your relationship with Hank? How did you
1443
01:50:33,030 --> 01:50:39,650
meet? And he was a very fascinating
person, and I wonder what kind of
1444
01:50:39,650 --> 01:50:44,390
personal experiences where you would say
that you've benefited.
1445
01:50:45,070 --> 01:50:46,070
from knowing Hank.
1446
01:50:47,630 --> 01:50:54,370
I first met Hank, I think it was in 1992
maybe, 91, maybe 91,
1447
01:50:54,710 --> 01:50:58,970
at the Santa Barbara Conference held by
the Market Technicians Association.
1448
01:50:59,470 --> 01:51:03,990
In those days, the institutions would
pay for the analysts to have these
1449
01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:10,250
wonderful conference experiences and
weekends, and unfortunately they stopped
1450
01:51:10,250 --> 01:51:15,930
doing that a decade ago, paying for
these expensive trips. But it was a
1451
01:51:15,930 --> 01:51:22,510
gathering. of prominent people in the
industry like Ralph Acampora and
1452
01:51:22,510 --> 01:51:28,150
names like that that I met there. And
Hank gave a lecture which particularly
1453
01:51:28,150 --> 01:51:35,010
made an impression on me about the
importance of doing your own homework
1454
01:51:35,010 --> 01:51:37,590
a closed window and a closed door.
1455
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:42,610
In other words, no outside distractions.
And I think that he actually borrowed
1456
01:51:42,610 --> 01:51:45,850
this from Wyckoff or one of the...
1457
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:52,020
tapes, the Evans tapes, I'm not sure
exactly, but I did read it somewhere
1458
01:51:52,060 --> 01:51:57,300
about the importance of doing your own
analysis without any other influences,
1459
01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:03,240
and then you will do your own best work.
And then he always said, you are your
1460
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:04,400
own best client.
1461
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:08,700
In other words, you're not thinking
about other people. You're doing this
1462
01:52:08,700 --> 01:52:11,280
yourself and accountability to yourself.
1463
01:52:11,500 --> 01:52:13,360
So you are your own best client.
1464
01:52:13,660 --> 01:52:17,280
And that stuck with me through all these
years, you know, the importance of
1465
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:22,180
always doing your own work and
safeguarding that you wouldn't be biased
1466
01:52:22,180 --> 01:52:26,360
you heard on TV or blogs or other
people's work and let that influence
1467
01:52:27,260 --> 01:52:31,100
With that said, I know Hank and I became
pretty good friends because my mom
1468
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:33,900
lived in the Bay Area, still does.
1469
01:52:34,570 --> 01:52:39,910
And so every time I would go out to San
Francisco, often Hank had me speak at
1470
01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:44,750
his, I don't remember what they used to
call them. I guess they were.
1471
01:52:45,740 --> 01:52:50,220
I guess it was the Technical Society
there. The San Francisco Technical
1472
01:52:50,220 --> 01:52:53,280
used to, or maybe they still do, put on
conferences.
1473
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,940
And that was a very, very popular
organization.
1474
01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:02,920
So I would go out there to speak for
them. And I remember Hank and his lovely
1475
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:08,520
wife and my mom and I would go out to
dinner several times. And just, you
1476
01:53:08,540 --> 01:53:12,660
always seeing each other through the
years, through these conferences and MTA
1477
01:53:12,660 --> 01:53:14,820
and IFTA conferences.
1478
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,560
And, you know, he was always upbeat.
1479
01:53:18,820 --> 01:53:23,920
You know, I would always go to any
lecture he gave that was, you know, at a
1480
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:24,920
conference.
1481
01:53:25,700 --> 01:53:29,840
And he did quite a lot of writing too. I
think it's very heartwarming that so
1482
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,720
much of his writing is still online. You
can go and read it.
1483
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:41,740
But, yeah, his upbeat attitude and his
enthusiasm, you know, every time
1484
01:53:41,740 --> 01:53:47,060
he would talk, I can still picture his
round cheeks and sparkling eyes and the
1485
01:53:47,060 --> 01:53:48,540
way he would talk and be animated.
1486
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:53,020
It just made it so much fun talking
about any subject, you know, as it is
1487
01:53:53,020 --> 01:53:55,900
you talk with somebody that has such
enthusiasm for it.
1488
01:53:56,780 --> 01:54:02,780
Yeah, that sounds exactly like Hank
Linda. So thank you for remembering him
1489
01:54:02,780 --> 01:54:07,060
that. A couple of questions that we have
here. One is from Mark.
1490
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:11,460
Linda referenced a book by Peter
Stadelmayer.
1491
01:54:12,180 --> 01:54:18,520
What was the name of the book? And I
believe this is Stadelmayer on market
1492
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:19,980
trading with market profile.
1493
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:26,100
Yeah, but he just was the one that
originated the concept. He was not the
1494
01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:31,240
communicator. And the book that I would
really recommend is Jim Dalton's book.
1495
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:36,580
that is called Mind Over Markets. And in
fact, this particular book, Mind Over
1496
01:54:36,580 --> 01:54:41,540
Markets, I remember it was kind of
considered the Bible for some prop shops
1497
01:54:41,540 --> 01:54:46,020
down, there was a large chain of prop
shops, and this was sort of their Bible.
1498
01:54:46,220 --> 01:54:52,540
Because in it, in particular, just the
first 40 pages, the essence of it, he
1499
01:54:52,540 --> 01:54:53,880
really described...
1500
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:59,700
basically six or seven types of action
that tend to unfold off of the opening
1501
01:54:59,700 --> 01:55:05,580
price. And then if that was going to
lead to a normal type of day or some of
1502
01:55:05,580 --> 01:55:10,620
these profile terms, a double
distribution day or a trend day. And in
1503
01:55:10,620 --> 01:55:16,370
particular, what struck me was this
concept of open, test, reject, or open,
1504
01:55:16,530 --> 01:55:21,150
trend, or open, perhaps it's the day
before an FOMC day and there's not the
1505
01:55:21,150 --> 01:55:24,550
volume there and everybody's on the
sidelines, then you're going to just
1506
01:55:24,550 --> 01:55:30,930
and kind of rotate around in noisy
nothingness. And it really did a great
1507
01:55:30,930 --> 01:55:36,310
conceptually capturing the type of
action and the implications for the
1508
01:55:36,310 --> 01:55:37,790
in that first hour of trading.
1509
01:55:39,660 --> 01:55:45,500
John is asking, is the quantitative
modeling used for confirmation or system
1510
01:55:45,500 --> 01:55:46,500
generation?
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Well, okay,
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you mean non -confirmation between two
markets? I don't really do any of that
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on a quantitative basis.
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You know, I've done a lot of modeling
with correlation studies. Steve Moore
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excellent at that, still is.
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And what we find is that you can find...
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to markets that are highly correlated.
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For example, the yen and the bonds have
had periods where they're very highly
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correlated, but that might only last for
a year and a half, and then they can be
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totally inversely correlated.
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I mean, just like what we saw happen
with the bonds and equities all through
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80s when I was first trading, and
basically the 90s, they were...
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correlated. And I used to be able to
make trades in the afternoon, the last
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of the day, where, say, for example, the
S &P would make a lower low, but the
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bonds would make a higher low, and that
was a buy signal. And you could do that
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just as you would now with the
divergence between the NASDAQ and the S
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But then, of course, you saw that whole
relationship change, you know, when we
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first got a whiff of... perhaps a
deflationary type of sentiment out there
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opposed to the inflationary sentiment.
So the correlations change, and that's
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why it's difficult to really quantify
anything like that between two separate
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markets. Other than that, the only type
of non -confirmation that we have
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01:57:20,420 --> 01:57:26,400
modeled is just a pure momentum
function, an indicator versus the price.
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01:57:28,340 --> 01:57:32,400
And, again, the trick to all of these,
you know, is putting it in context.
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For example, if you're trading with
looking at the ticks on an intraday
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01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:43,620
the S &Ps, on a strong trend day, you
know, you can't look for divergences in
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01:57:43,620 --> 01:57:45,500
the ticks. It'll get run over.
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The same thing, like, with certain
oscillators. So I'm not quite sure if
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really addresses your question.
1539
01:57:54,169 --> 01:57:56,890
John is saying confirmation of trading
intuition.
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01:57:58,890 --> 01:58:02,970
Yeah, I'm not sure about that either,
Linda. Okay, let's go to the next
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01:58:02,970 --> 01:58:05,930
question, and we have maybe like a
minute or so left.
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01:58:06,750 --> 01:58:12,170
Carl is asking, and this is in reference
to one of your slides where you had the
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ATR range in red and green on the chart.
He's asking what kind of software you
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used and how do you actually set that
ATR range?
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01:58:22,730 --> 01:58:29,570
I use both CQG and TradeStation, and
both of those
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01:58:29,570 --> 01:58:34,550
have scripting language, and it's easy
to write the code. In fact, if anybody
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01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:39,910
has TradeStation or CQG and wants the
code, go to my website, drop me an
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01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:41,210
and I'll mail it to you.
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01:58:43,150 --> 01:58:47,910
It was really just strictly based off of
Wells Wilder's formula, and what we
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01:58:47,910 --> 01:58:51,790
found is there's not any right or wrong
variable. You can make it.
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01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:57,740
Three ATRs or two and a half ATRs. It
can be off the close or the low or the
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01:58:57,740 --> 01:59:04,480
high. And additionally, it's very
similar to a
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01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:06,520
volatility stop and reverse system.
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01:59:07,260 --> 01:59:12,300
That's what I think Wells Wilder called
it in his book was with the volatility
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01:59:12,300 --> 01:59:13,840
system.
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01:59:17,410 --> 01:59:21,770
You need to have a software that can do
a scripting language, but you can do it
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01:59:21,770 --> 01:59:25,390
on any computer that would allow you to
write your own indicator.
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01:59:25,610 --> 01:59:27,870
And it's really pretty easy. It's very,
very simple.
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01:59:28,450 --> 01:59:29,450
All right.
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01:59:29,590 --> 01:59:31,710
Well, Linda, I think this is where...
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01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:33,700
We're probably going to stop for today.
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01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:38,720
I thought that was such a great start.
So many great ideas that you've
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01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:39,599
to us.
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01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:44,020
And I'm kind of like, as you were
talking, writing those down, thinking
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01:59:44,020 --> 01:59:47,800
you know, how we, you know, Wyckoff
students here in the Wyckoff Nation
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01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:53,400
community could implement that. What
does it mean for the interpretation on
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01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:54,400
of like the Wyckoff basis?
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01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:59,120
And a lot of these same ideas that we
have.
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01:59:59,759 --> 02:00:06,640
And it's just a matter of understanding
how you're using those and how we could
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02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:12,060
incorporate those into our trading. So
thank you so much. And we're looking
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02:00:12,060 --> 02:00:18,280
forward to the second session, which we
will have, which will be conducted next
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02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:24,460
week, next Thursday at the same time, at
3 p .m. Pacific or 6 p .m.
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02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,660
Eastern. And, Linda, thank you so much.
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02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:31,080
You bet. Looking forward to it. We're
going to have some fun because we're
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02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:34,200
to get down to the actual trading
patterns, not just models.
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02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,160
So I'll see you all then.
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02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:38,800
Awesome. Thank you, and bye -bye.
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02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:40,400
Night -night.
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