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Barack Obama saw herself.

This guy, whoever he is, I
think I wanna follow him.

He don't follow me.

He may follow me now.

Some people be waiting for
you to follow them

and follow you back.

But this guy that was on
CNN in the panel,

this guy made so much sense

that I wanted to cry
a little bit.

And just a little bit.

Because it's rare that
you see brothers,

especially on CNN or MSNBC,

that is intelligent enough
to make a fair,

unequivocal statement of the
humanity of people

outside of their race.

Outside of their race.

And if every American, let me
forget every American,

let's start with the
black folks.

With all that we have
been through.

With the, "I have a dream."

Y'all forgot his dream.

You quote his dream, the street
down the street

where everybody gets shot at
is named after him.

But somehow you forgot
his dream.

That pretty much a dream of
a colorblind society.

That people would be judged by the
content of their character

and not the color of
their skin.

Martin Luther King said it.

And y'all stupid enough to
invoke his name,

but dismiss his premise.

Thank God for this brother.

I forget his name.

I followed him last night
when I saw it.

Look at that googly-eyed fool

and the rest of these nut
jobs on this show

that have angst to say that

Barack Obama was just a man,
not a black man.

What does black even mean?

Roll the clip.

Obama's black.

And like that actually is a
bit, no it is like.

Is he black?

What does that mean exactly?

His mom is, his father is.

We still operate under
the one drop rule

in the brown paper bags.

Whatever your definition.

Whatever your definition.

Stop, stop, stop, stop,
stop, stop, stop.

I'm gonna replay it so y'all can
see it all the way through.

This is a valid point here.

He said his mama is,
his daddy is.

Are we still operating under
the one drop rule?

This is where it gets dicey at.

I've been saying this
for years.

My children are not black.

My children are biracial.

White supremacists, and
I studied white,

the study of whiteness when
I was in college,

which was a weird subject now.

It wasn't woke when I
was in college

because they had the study of
blackness and whiteness.

So we studied the idea of people
prioritizing whiteness

and white supremacy.

And white supremacists
had to make sure

that the white race was pure.

So therefore any race mixing
in the white race

had to divert to the
opposite race.

So they can only have pure
white blood people.

And you dumb Negroes are capitulating
white supremacy

and you try to act like
white supremacy

is a big deal to you,

but you're furthering
the messaging

and the theology of white
supremacy.

My kid is half white, both of my
boys, half white, half black.

What are you?

I'm biracial.

The white race get the same
weight as the black race.

His white side love him just as
much as his black side.

But you dumb idiots that
fall in the trap

of the Klan's plan is still
today making black people

to be black, negating any other
heritage that they have.

You lunatics play the clip all
over from the beginning

so people can watch it all
the way through.

And I'm not gonna say nothing,
I promise.

Barack Obama's black.

And like that actually is a
bit, no, it is like.

Is he black?

What does that mean exactly?

His mom is, his father is.

Whatever your definition is.

Let me tell you something.

Whatever your definition might
wanna be of is he black.

When most people look at him.

I'm happy, I don't know.

We do, we don't got the time.

I'm black, and he's black,
Barack Obama's black.

But okay, let me just say,

let me just say, I just think
that this is interesting

because, Ashley, I'm
hearing you say

that part of the problem was
that Barack Obama

constantly reminded
white America

that he considered himself
to be black.

And that that was part of
what they found.

They reminded them every time.

No, no, it's a more
nuanced point.

My father was black,

but the majority of Americans
are not black.

He didn't have to open
his mouth

for people to be reminded that
he was the first one

that was different than any
other president

that has ever been in
this country.

Every president has
been different

because they're all
individuals.

There was a moment on the
campaign trail,

there was a moment on the
campaign trail

where someone stood up and talked
to then candidate Obama

and said, "Hey, look, all my
friends keep telling me

you're black."

I tell them, "No, you're
biracial."

And he lurched at the
opportunity to say,

"Hey, I'm perceived as black.

I'm so glad I have an opportunity
to talk about this.

That's how I self-identify."

So you're anything with black?

I am an individual.

I am not a black man.

I don't even know what
that means.

I am an individual racist, a preposterous
social construct.

Do you feel like that when
you get pulled over

by the police?

I do feel like that when
I get pulled over

by the police. Must be nice.

You know why?

Because when they talk to me,

they're engaging with
this vernacular,

they're engaging with me in
this particular way,

and it's impossible to misconstrue
what's going on here.

That, so, what is going
on there?

What is going on there?

What is going on there?

A different type of blackness
than when somebody

that actually might not have
that vernacular?

I'm an individual.

Right, but what is, so, wait,
I just, hold on.

Wait a minute. Okay.

You just said a lot there.

So apparently we do have time.

Okay, so you said when you were
pulled over by a police,

as an individual who happens to
have skin that is black,

let's say that, or brown, whatever,
darker than white.

Yeah.

That when they hear you're
vernacular,

they realize what they're
engaging with.

And what is that?

A sophisticated individual.

And so when a black person
who is pulled over

that you might not deem as a
sophisticated individual,

how will they get engaged
with it?

The issue would not
be their race.

It would be the degree of
sophistication they have

or don't have to navigate
the situation.

And when a white person
is pulled over--

Again, sophistication is still
the key issue.

The statistics don't
support that.

They so stupid.

I was a cop, bro.

And these dummies act like
every cop is the same.

There's black, there's white,
there's Hispanic,

there's Indian, there's
people who,

you know, there's people who
grew up in the hood,

there's people who grew up
with a silver spoon.

The cops come in all different
varieties.

There's black cops.

They act like cops ain't black.

And then also, and this is the
honest thing that,

I mean, every cop knows this.

White folks will kill you just
as fast as anybody else.

So your perception when you
pull a person over

on a traffic stop, and
most of the time,

especially if you work
at a night shift,

you don't know what color the
person is in the car.

Because that is irrelevant.

Because the gun is the
same color.

The bullets are the same color,

if you know what I'm saying.

And so when I will pull
a person over,

I'm judging them based on
how they're acting.

Because I've seen black folks
be just normal folk.

Sir, can I have your,

we would normally pull up
to the car and say,

sir, do you have any weapons
or guns,

anything your car does
you know about?

Standardize, we say that
with everybody.

Because we want them to know that
we're paying attention.

And that people that got guns,

they start getting weird

when they know you thinking
about it.

So we asked them first, and
then the most people say,

no, no, no, how do I do them?

Because I used to joke
with people.

We used to joke because
it got mundane.

So it was like, hey, do
you have any guns,

weapons or bombs or explosives,

you know, like weapons and
mass destruction

or something in the car that
I should know about?

It's something, and we
joke with them,

and then people are like, no,
I don't have anything.

Okay, sir, would you be like

to provide your license
registration?

I pulled you over because you
were going 65 and a 35.

That's all the conversation is.

They, good, decent folk, black,
white, or indifferent,

poor or rich.

Okay, sir, here's my driver's
license.

Okay, I'll be right back.

They normal, they cool.

I just give them a
warning, man.

I ain't got time to be playing
with right,

no long ticket out here and
get you a warning.

Hey, slow down, bro.

You can even run over somebody
and kill them out here,