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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,960 We're trying to do something a bit different 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,640 with the Daniel Morgan case. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Daniel Morgan, axe murder, 1987. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,960 We have our suspicions as to who's involved. 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,320 We've just got to get them saying they did it. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,960 The Metropolitan Police have a reward of up to ยฃ50,000 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,960 for any person who can give me information 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,960 to the arrest and charge of those responsible. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,960 The Vians are nasty. Jimmy's rank. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,960 But Rees. Oh, he's clever. 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,960 We caught one conversation between Fillery and Alex Marunchak. 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,640 And who is this Marunchak? 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,640 News Of The World flunky. He's a no-one. 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,960 They've been watching the house. 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Hey! Hey, come here! 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Do be aware of the power and the impact of the media. 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,320 Of News International. Exactly. 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,960 Your budget was spent harassing me in every way, 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,960 leading to problems for my family. 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,960 OFFICERS SHOUT 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,960 We think that there isn't sufficient evidence. 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,960 So, it's dead, right? A dead duck. 23 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:14,960 ELECTRICITY HUMS 24 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:24,960 APPLIANCE HUMS 25 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:29,960 BOTTLES CLINK 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,960 SIGHS 27 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,960 # Have a holly, jolly Christmas 28 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,960 # It's the best time of the year 29 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,320 # I don't know If there'll be snow... # 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,960 It seems like the car falling off has made you better. 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,960 # Have a holly, jolly... # That's it. 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,960 ALL EXCLAIM, TOY CAR SIREN WAILS 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,960 GIRL GIGGLES, JACQUI GASPS 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Yes, look! You hit me with a... 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,640 MOBILE VIBRATES 'Hi, this is Dave. Leave a message.' 36 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,960 VOICEMAIL BEEPS 'Dave, it's James Ward here. 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,800 'I know it's Christmas, but I've been thinking. 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,960 JAMES BREATHES DEEPLY 'I've decided I'll do it. 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,960 'I'll go in the box. I'll name... 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,960 'I'll tell everyone who done Dan Morgan. 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,960 'So, just ring me as soon as you get this, all right? 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,960 'Thanks.' LINE BEEPS 43 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,960 CLOCK TICKING ECHOES 44 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,960 So, how was Christmas? 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,960 Well, it was Christmas. What, you don't like Christmas? 46 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,960 John, the best day of Christmas is Boxing Day 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,960 because then you know you get 364 days to go 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,960 till the next Christmas. 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,960 YATES CHUCKLES How was yours? 50 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,960 We had a lovely Christmas, thank you. 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,960 CHUCKLES Er, James Ward. Remind me? 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,960 Got put away for drug trafficking last year. 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,640 Wants a deal in return for information on Daniel Morgan. 54 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:07,000 He's done deals before. 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,160 And how is his information? What's your feeling? 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,960 My feeling is that the Morgan investigation closed two years ago, 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,960 and I now work at Customs. 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,960 He knows things, he does. And he rang me over Christmas. 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,960 He said he'd go QE. He'll go in the box? 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,320 That's what he said. 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,000 So, I pulled him out of Belmarsh yesterday. 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,960 We had a chat. 63 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,000 So, if we nicked him a year ago, 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,160 why is he only stepping up with this now? 65 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,960 It's my wife. She's really unwell. 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,960 She could die. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. 67 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,960 That's why I need to get out of here, so I can look after her. 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,960 I don't want her to die alone. She shouldn't have to die alone. 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,960 I understand. But I need... 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,960 ..assurances. 71 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,000 There are ways we can protect you. 72 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,960 The people who done Morgan, it's the worst-kept secret in the world. 73 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Whole of Croydon knows who done it. 74 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,960 Shall we start at the beginning? 75 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,960 It was Glenn, with the axe. 76 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,960 Jimmy with the car. 77 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:18,960 It was purposely done. 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,800 Jonathan Rees wanted it done. 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,960 I hear it was over a woman. And who paid? 80 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,960 Rees. 81 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,320 And Garry? He weren't there. 82 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,960 His job was to keep everyone in line. 83 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,960 Sid Fillery was used later on to disrupt the inquiry. 84 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,960 Glenn used to call it the Golden Wonder murder. 85 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,960 Because of all the crisps that Danny had bought for his kids 86 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,960 just before he left the pub. 87 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,320 OK, that's a great story. Where did you get it from? 88 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,960 Garry told me. A few times. 89 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,160 Glenn told me face to face a couple of times as well. 90 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Glenn said he got 25 grand for the job. 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Is that good enough? 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,960 Ooh, that's not bad. 93 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,960 I mean, it's hearsay, but it's not bad. 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,480 We'll need to follow protocol to the letter. 95 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,480 Uh-huh. 96 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,640 Look, the way this works 97 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,960 is that we go through what we call a... cleansing process. 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,960 You confess to your past crimes, hand over all your assets. 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,960 I've been selling cannabis for 20 years, Dave. 100 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,960 I'm not sure I can remember everything. 101 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,960 You will get a separate debrief team. 102 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,960 You talk to them, they report back to me. 103 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,960 It's what we call a sterile corridor. 104 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,960 Why can't I speak to you? 105 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,960 It's so I can't be accused of influencing you, 106 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:43,960 feeding you information. 107 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,800 No. 108 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,960 No, I can't do that. I don't trust the Met. 109 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,960 They're all... They're all bent at the Met. 110 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Look, I'll... I'll be honest with you here, Jimmy. 111 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,960 This really isn't my case any more. 112 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,960 You want this, this is the process. 113 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,000 I don't want my wife to die alone. 114 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,640 No, you don't. 115 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,960 BREATHES SHAKILY 116 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,960 OK, then. 117 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,960 I'll do it. 118 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,960 'This could be our ticket.' 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,960 We could crack this open, Dave. You and me. 120 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,960 We could crack open Daniel Morgan. 121 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Fifth time lucky. What do you think? 122 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,960 RADIO STATIC CRACKLES 123 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,960 WATER RUNNING 124 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,960 GARGLES WATER 125 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,960 SPITS 126 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,960 I thought we were moving forward. Things have felt better recently. 127 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Well, we are. We are moving forward. 128 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,960 You've just told me they're reopening Daniel Morgan 129 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,640 with you as SIO. 130 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,960 It won't be like last time. 131 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Oh, and you're presenting it to me as if it's a done deal. 132 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,960 You didn't even ask me. Jacqui, it's completely different. 133 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,960 We've got them on the back foot this time. 134 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,960 We had Witness Protection install panic alarms. 135 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,960 We had journalists fishing for our bank details. 136 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,320 We had... Our kids were followed by the News Of The World to school. 137 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,960 That'll not be happening again. 138 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,960 The people you're investigating are private investigators. 139 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,640 They invade people's lives, and I'm not doing it again. 140 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,960 I can't go back to that. Jacqui. 141 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,960 You don't know how hard I've worked. 142 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Please. You won't. You won't. 143 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,960 It'll be quick this time, clean. Well, why does it have to be you? 144 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Why? You're not irreplaceable, Dave. Because nobody knows Morgan like me. 145 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,960 I know this case inside out. 146 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,960 You want it. No. 147 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Yes, you do. I don't. Fuck, it's the last thing I want. 148 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Yates? 149 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,640 He doesn't trust anyone else. No. 150 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,960 You don't trust anyone else. 151 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 How is it gonna work? 152 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,160 I commute five days a week to Northolt. 153 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,960 I've got Crimewatch, and I'm teaching. 154 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Explain to me how this is will work. We will make it work. 155 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 So, it's a done deal? Can you say no? 156 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Jacqui... FOOTSTEPS RECEDE 157 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,960 CAR DOOR SLAMS, RADIO CHATTER 158 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,960 After the last investigation, 159 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,960 the CPS said we had all the pieces of the puzzle, 160 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,160 but we lacked the glue to stick them together. 161 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,160 James Ward could be that glue. 162 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Not on his own. Ward's not enough. 163 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,960 To get this over the line, 164 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,960 we need further evidence to corroborate his version of events. 165 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,960 My little brother was murdered 19 years ago. 166 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,960 In that time, our family have been through 167 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,960 four failed police investigations. 168 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,960 The most recent of which, Operation Abelard, 169 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,960 was run by you... DCS Cook. 170 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,960 So, forgive us if we're not jumping up and down 171 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,960 because you think you might have found a new lead. 172 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,480 I understand. 173 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Isobel, we appreciate that this can't be easy. 174 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,960 But let me assure you, 175 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,640 DCS Cook lives and breathes this case. 176 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,480 No officer wants to find the people who killed your son 177 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,960 and bring them to justice more than this man. 178 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,160 You said, Detective Chief Superintendent Cook... 179 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,960 ..that apart from this new witness, 180 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,960 you said that you need further evidence. 181 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,960 What sort of evidence? 182 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,960 We need people talking. 183 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,960 That means we need witnesses that can put our suspects at the scene. 184 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,960 At least two, preferably more. 185 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,960 Now, Ward said this was a South London open secret. 186 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,960 Let's see if we can find anyone else out there saying the same thing. 187 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,960 Let's see what we can catch from the suspects themself. 188 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Now, Garry and James Ward are both banged up for drug trafficking. 189 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,960 The other two, we suspect, still up to no good. 190 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:28,960 Jonathan Rees. 191 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Rees served four years for conspiring to plant cocaine 192 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,960 on an innocent woman to help her ex win a child custody battle. 193 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,960 He's out now and back working as a private investigator. 194 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,960 Sid Fillery has just done three years community service 195 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,160 for possession of indecent images of children. 196 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,960 He's now running a pub in Norfolk. 197 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,960 You're joking. I wish I was. 198 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,960 We have taps on Rees's phone, 199 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,960 and we have probes in the visitors' room of Garry Vian's nick. 200 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,320 The DPS still own the house next door to Glenn Vian, 201 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,320 so we'll reinstate the probes there. 202 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,960 We go over the old files. All 200 crates of them. 203 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,960 OFFICERS GRUMBLE Let me know. 204 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,640 Now, motive. 205 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,640 Rumour has it that Daniel was about to sell a story 206 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,160 about police corruption to the tabloids. 207 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,960 Now, can we back this up? 208 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Other theories include sexual jealousy. 209 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,960 Daniel and Rees were both linked to the same woman - Margaret Harrison. 210 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,960 Rees and Harrison are still in a relationship. 211 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,320 Are there any other motives out there? We follow them all. 212 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,160 Any questions? 213 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,960 I have a question. 214 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,960 How, after all this time, do you propose to get people talking? 215 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,960 Triggers. 216 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,960 RADIO STATIC CRACKLES 217 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,160 RADIO STATIC CRACKLES 218 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,960 We need Mike Sullivan at The Sun. 219 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,960 I've got good contacts at The Mirror and The Mail. 220 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,320 We don't need The Sun. 221 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,960 No, we need The Sun and their readership. 222 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,960 John, we've been actively investigating 223 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,800 the relationship between Jonathan Rees and the News Of The World. 224 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,640 News Of The World and The Sun are entirely separate publications. 225 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,960 DAVE SCOFFS And Mike's... 226 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,960 Mike's as solid as they come. 227 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,640 If we ask him to keep this away from Rebekah, 228 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,000 he will keep this away from her. No, no. Sorry. 229 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,960 You just said they're entirely separate publications. 230 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,960 I thought you knew. 231 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,960 Knew what? Rebekah edits The Sun now. 232 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,960 A guy called Andy Coulson took over at News Of The World. 233 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,960 Oh... fuck. 234 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,960 You really think this is a good idea? 235 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,960 Yeah. I know these guys. 236 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,960 If we play them right, they can be powerful allies. 237 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,960 Powerful allies. And right now, we need The Sun. 238 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,960 GATE BEEPS 239 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,960 CHATTER, PHONES RING 240 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,960 'Look, I'll level with you, here.' 241 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,960 I wanted to take this to another paper, 242 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:01,960 but John Yates swears by you. 243 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,960 Yeah, I've known John for years. Why did you want to go elsewhere? 244 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,960 Don't like your editor. 245 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,960 Plus, I've got concerns over one of your colleagues. Alex Marunchak? 246 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,960 Oh. Yeah, him. 247 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,960 I know he denies it, but I think it was him 248 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,160 who sent his dogs after me and my family a few years back. 249 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,960 He was trying to obstruct a criminal investigation, 250 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,960 I took it to Rebekah, she did nothing. 251 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,960 I mean, obviously, I can't speak 252 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,320 as to what Alex may or may not have done, 253 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,960 but he's not really my colleague. 254 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,960 I mean, I have nothing to do with News Of The World. 255 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,960 I mean, I think he's at their Ireland desk, if I'm not mistaken. 256 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,960 And what about Rebekah? Well, erm... 257 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,960 ..you'd just be dealing with me on this one. 258 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,960 I mean, look, if you're gonna trust me, DCS Cook, 259 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,000 you're gonna have to give me an opportunity to earn that trust. 260 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,960 That's one of my lines. 261 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,960 CHUCKLES Tell me what I can do for you. 262 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,960 'Oh, come on, Kim. What's it say?' 263 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,960 Scotland Yard established a covert unit 264 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,000 to investigate a private detective's murder. 265 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,960 Rumoured to have been committed with the help of corrupt officers 266 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,480 from the Metropolitan Police. 267 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,960 Senior lead investigator, DCS David Cook 268 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,960 said, "We will ensure the killers face the full force of the law." 269 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Cook. 270 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,800 That's the same fella as before, yeah? 271 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,800 Yeah, that's right. 272 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,960 'Have you seen the article? 273 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,960 'Trish reckons Wardy's gone and grassed.' 274 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,480 'It's a joke, mate. This Dan Morgan thing's come up again. 275 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,800 'Sending people letters this time.' 276 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,960 'Police want me to inform. Fucking cheek.' 277 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,320 The article's done nothing. We wanted Sharon to visit Garry. 278 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,960 We wanted Jimmy Cook to call Glenn. 279 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,960 They're not doing what they're supposed to be doing. 280 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,960 Give it time. It's just pointless chat. 281 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,960 We can't use any of it. Look, if nothing bites, 282 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,960 we ripple the pond again. 283 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Rees. 284 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,800 He's quiet. You think he knows we're listening? 285 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,000 Well, he's a canny fucker and a paranoid one at that. 286 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,960 No plan survives first contact with the enemy. 287 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,960 'We did half-page story for The Sunday Mirror 288 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,960 'and got ยฃ550. 289 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,960 'News of the World would have paid ยฃ1,500. 290 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,960 'No-one pays like News Of The World.' 291 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,960 INDISTINCT CHATTER OVERLAPS 292 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,800 PHONE RINGS 293 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Hello. 'Dave, it's Mike at The Sun.' 294 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,960 He said his name's Gary Eaton. 295 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,960 And he called the news desk? He'd seen the article. 296 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Said he worked in the drugs trade with Jimmy Cook for years. 297 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Mm. I wrote a letter to Jimmy Cook, asking him to inform as a trigger. 298 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,960 Well, it seems he's going around town firing warning shots. 299 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,960 Eaton said that Cook paid a visit to his girlfriend, 300 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:04,960 scared the shit out of her. 301 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,960 He was sending a message to Eaton. 302 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:07,960 "We know where she lives," kind of thing, 303 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,000 but doesn't seem to have had the desired effect. 304 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,960 Just pissed him off. 305 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Think he's genuine? Could be a plant. 306 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,960 I could smell his fear down the phone. 307 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,960 I can't have direct contact with a potential witness, 308 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,960 but I'll send one of my team over... 309 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,960 No, he saw your name on the article, said he'll only speak to you. 310 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Something about everyone at the Met being bent. 311 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:30,960 Mm. 312 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,960 I left it on the fucking table cos I wanted you to fucking take it. 313 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,960 ARGUING CONTINUES Yep. That'll be them. 314 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,960 That's just not fair. You open up, please, mate? 315 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Let me take that. 316 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Hi, Gary. Dave, yeah? 317 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,000 So, how was the journey? 318 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,960 Knackering. I'm knackered. I've not been sleeping. 319 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,960 How long are you putting me up for? 320 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,000 Well, that's kind of up to you. So, why aren't you sleeping? 321 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Cos I'm worried, ain't I? About what? 322 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,960 Them coming after me. JC is a dangerous man. 323 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,480 Everyone's shit scared of Jimmy Cook. 324 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,960 He lives off fear, that bloke. 325 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,320 He knows I know about Sid. 326 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,960 He knows I know about virtually everything. 327 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,960 Well, we do have ways to protect you. 328 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,960 GARY SCOFFS Yeah, right. 329 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Look, I can understand if you don't trust us. 330 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,960 But to be honest... 331 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,960 ..I'm not sure I entirely trust you just yet either. 332 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,960 See, Gary, I'm just trying to figure out 333 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,960 what it is you've actually got and how valuable that is to us. 334 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,640 Look, I can give you Sid, and I can give you Jimmy. OK? 335 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,480 But I need guarantees. 336 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Cos the thing is, right, the people that are involved in this, 337 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,960 you have to have them as well cos if they don't all go... 338 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,640 Give me the name of the brothers. 339 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,960 If they don't all go, then I'm at risk all the time. 340 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,800 Gary, give me the name of the brothers. 341 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,960 What, you want the main person of the brothers? Yeah. 342 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,000 We've just been talking about it. It's Jimmy. 343 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,960 No, no, the other one that was there. 344 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,960 I don't know, man! I don't know any of them. 345 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,800 OK? I just know about Jimmy. Jimmy was there. OK. 346 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,960 I know who was involved. 347 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,160 Look, Jimmy had massive involvement in this, yeah? 348 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,960 Massive involvement. 349 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,960 You can dance all day, mate. I'm not dancing, Dave. 350 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,640 I will help you. I will help you, but I'm just wary. 351 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,320 That's all. I'm just being careful. 352 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,960 OK. I understand. 353 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,960 GARY BREATHES DEEPLY 354 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,960 I was approached to do it myself. 355 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,960 The murder. 356 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,000 OK, tell us about that approach. I was approached by Jimmy. 357 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,320 How much did they offer? Fifty grand. 358 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:21,960 In '87? Fifty grand cash. 359 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,960 I swear it on my life, I swear it on my kids' lives. 360 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,960 Why did they kill him? 361 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,960 The impression I got was that he got wind of the others' dealings. 362 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Cos Sid Fillery and Jon Rees, 363 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,960 they had all sorts of other things going on in the partnership, yeah? 364 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,960 I wanna have a shower. No, no, no. This is good. 365 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,960 Tell me about Rees's involvement in this. 366 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,960 What, Jon? He didn't have any involvement in the actual murder. 367 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,960 I'm not saying he was involved in the murder, but did he play a part? 368 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,320 Did he... Did he put it up? Did he cover it up? 369 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,960 Yeah, he's aware of it. Yeah. Yeah. 370 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,960 He had involvement in that side of things, I'm 99% sure of that. 371 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,960 Right, that's it for today, boys. Er... One last question, 'ey? 372 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,960 Just one. 373 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,000 Why didn't you kill Daniel Morgan? Why didn't you take the job? 374 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Because I met him a few times, and he seemed like a nice bloke. 375 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,800 He just walked in off the street? Well, I know it's suspicious. 376 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,960 But nothing he said undermines Ward's evidence. 377 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,960 I don't think he has any idea who Ward is. 378 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,960 He's given us lots on Jimmy Cook, a bit on Fillery, 379 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,960 nothing on the Vian brothers. 380 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,480 I don't know whether that's deliberate. And motive? 381 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,960 He reckons that Morgan was on to some dodgy dealings 382 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,960 between Rees and Fillery at Southern. 383 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,640 Well, coming in and confessing to crimes 384 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,960 which could see him locked up for some time is certainly unusual. 385 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,480 It could work in favour of his credibility. 386 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,960 Either way, it's expensive. 387 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,960 Ward's costing us 90 grand a month, and he's already banged up. 388 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,000 See, I think that Gary Eaton could be our golden goose. 389 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,960 Right, well, let me talk to some people. 390 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,960 How long do you need? Could be a few weeks. 391 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Right. 392 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,960 Right, it's not exactly protocol, 393 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,960 but until we get the green light from upstairs, 394 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,480 Gary Eaton belongs to no-one. 395 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,960 He's a free man. He can do what he likes. 396 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,800 He can walk any time. He can talk, and he will talk. 397 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,960 And the people he's grassing could find him, silence him or worse. 398 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,960 We cannot let that happen. 399 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,960 So, for three weeks, until the debrief team takes over, 400 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,640 we are all on baby-sitting duty. PHONE RINGS 401 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Hello? 'Dave, it's Gary.' 402 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,960 Oh, hi, Gary. 'Right, we need another 20 quid. 403 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,960 'Julie's been on the scratch cards, yeah?' 404 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,960 We pay his hotel. We go to Tesco. 405 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,000 We buy his fags. We charge his phone. 406 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,960 We even wipe his fucking arse, if we have to. 407 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,480 All of this? Yep. 408 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,960 PHONE RINGS 409 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Hello? 'Dave, it's Gary. 410 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,960 'Julie thinks that the woman at the front desk is being funny with us. 411 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,160 'Can you have a word?' With Julie? 412 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,960 'No, with the woman at the fucking front desk, mate.' 413 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,960 We do not let him out of our sight. PHONE RINGS 414 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,960 All right? 'Dave, it's Gary. 415 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Look, there's something wrong with the telly.' 416 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,800 What's the matter with the telly? I couldn't get Channel 4. 417 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,960 'We cannot afford to lose this witness.' 418 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,960 We cannot, and we fucking will not lose Gary Eaton. 419 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,960 Is that understood? ALL AGREE 420 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,640 RADIO STATIC CRACKLES 421 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,800 It's early days with this new witness, 422 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,960 but we had to establish whether he can stand up as a witness of truth. 423 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Understood. Completely. 424 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,800 And thank you... for letting me into your, erm... 425 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Into the inner sanctum? 426 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,960 ALASTAIR CHUCKLES LIGHTLY 427 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,960 You're more than welcome, Alastair. It's the least we can do. 428 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,960 ALASTAIR EXHALES 429 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960 I remember when I got the call. 430 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,960 Mum rang, and she said, "Your brother's dead." 431 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,960 I couldn't take it in. 432 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Every time I went back to the pub, I still can't take it in. 433 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,960 It was a dangerous line of work. 434 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,960 He did a lot of debt collecting in the early days, that sort of thing. 435 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,640 He was actually very brave. 436 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,960 He stood his ground, you know. I'm sure he did. 437 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,960 I'm sure he was... brave. 438 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,960 What's going on with Rees? 439 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,960 To be honest, we're not hearing very much, but, erm, 440 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,960 likely up to his old tricks. 441 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,640 Can I share something with you? 442 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,960 I'm worried that Jonathan Rees is, erm, well... 443 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,960 I think he may have discovered some new tricks. 444 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,960 It's a bug, called a Trojan. 445 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Alastair Morgan found one in his laptop. 446 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,960 He's concerned that Jonathan Rees or one of his minions 447 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,960 might be behind it, email hacking, basically. 448 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,960 So, I've put in some antivirus software. 449 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960 That should take care of it. Listen, I need yours. 450 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,960 Need your laptop, honey. 451 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,960 If you think that we're being hacked, we call Witness Protection. 452 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,960 It's safer if I just handle it. SHE SCOFFS 453 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,480 You see, what I don't understand is whether there's support 454 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,960 and you just won't take it, 455 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,960 or whether they're just handing you another poisonous chalice 456 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,800 and running a mile. Look, it could be nothing. 457 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,960 Bugs can come from anywhere. 458 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,960 It could be something, though, couldn't it? 459 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,160 It could be something extremely serious. 460 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,960 We could be under surveillance again. 461 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,960 It could just be a coincidence. That's the thing about coincidences. 462 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,960 No, I said I won't do this again. PHONE RINGS 463 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Hello? Dave? 464 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,000 'Dave, I'm in a bad way, mate.' Oh, hi, Gary. 465 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,960 'Julie's gone off on one.' PHONE BEEPS 466 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,000 Listen, Gary, I'm sorry. I'm gonna have to put you on hold. 467 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,320 'Wait a second.' No, please, Dave, please. 468 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,960 - Go ahead. - 'Sir.' 469 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,960 'There's been an incident with Gary Eaton. 470 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,960 'We've had to intervene to relocate the girlfriend.' 471 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,960 What happened? 'She wants to end the relationship. 472 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,960 'She claims to be frightened of him.' 473 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Was there violence? 'No. 474 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,960 'But in the short time I was with her, 475 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,960 'she received over 20 phone calls and a number of abusive texts.' 476 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,960 OK, thanks for letting me know. 'Sir.' 477 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,960 PHONE BEEPS Gary, you still there? 478 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,960 GARY SOBS All right, listen, calm down. 479 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Calm down. Just take it easy. 480 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,960 'Gary Eaton has been phoning you on your mobile?' 481 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Yes. 482 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,320 Regularly. 483 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,320 What does that mean? Sometimes, daily. 484 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960 And this has been going on for...? Some time. 485 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,960 It was small stuff. I thought I could handle it. 486 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960 And you're telling me about this now because...? 487 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,960 It's of concern at this point. It's potentially... 488 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,960 Concerning? Yes. 489 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,960 You ever play golf, Dave? 490 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,960 Never. Well, you should. 491 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Does wonders for perspective. 492 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960 All right. This-This will... 493 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,960 ..come out, and there are going to be questions. 494 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,960 Questions as to what an officer of your rank is doing, 495 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,000 taking direct phone calls from a protected witness. 496 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,960 Questions as to why, when you have so much under your remit, 497 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,960 you would concern yourself so personally with such a detail. 498 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,960 And why you, of all people, would choose a course of action 499 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,960 that could severely compromise this entire invest... 500 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,160 Why is he calling you?! Cos I'm the only person he trusts. 501 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,960 Look, I know you like to think of yourself as some kind of maverick, 502 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960 and you do things your own way. He hates his debrief team. 503 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,960 He's extremely vulnerable. He's unwell. 504 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,000 I believe him to be a genuine suicide risk. 505 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,960 If I don't pick up, 506 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,960 and something happens, or he does something stupid... 507 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,960 I cannot... 508 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,960 I got him into this situation, John. 509 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,960 I cannot have Gary Eaton on my conscience. 510 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,960 Well, Witness Protection wanna drop him. 511 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,960 No, no. He's handed over 70 grand. 512 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,960 Admitted to crimes that could see him go down for 20 years. 513 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,960 I know he's hard work, but I believe he's valuable. 514 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,960 Look... I appreciate the complexity of the situation, 515 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,960 but you cannot be taking phone calls from a protected witness. 516 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,960 From today, you will have no further contact with Gary Eaton, whatsoever. 517 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,640 OK? Yeah. 518 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960 And I'm serious about the golf. 519 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,960 I'll look into it. 520 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,960 'I found a bug. 521 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,960 'It's the fucking old bill, they're trying to listen to us.' 522 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,960 'He reckons the fellas next door are coppers from Hendon.' 523 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,960 What if he goes in and bashes the door down? 524 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960 It's expensive kit. No, it's well hidden. 525 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160 Thought no plan survives first contact with the enemy? 526 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,640 Is now a good or a bad time for more bad news? 527 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,960 Good, I think. A journalist called. 528 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,000 Said a hack from another paper tried to sell him a story, 529 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,960 about you and your wife. 530 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,960 Oh, Jesus. 531 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960 And did he mention if the hack had a name? 532 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,960 Yes, it's Alex Marunchak. 533 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,960 Right. OK. 534 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,960 I'll leave it with you. 535 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,160 I mean, it's not even a story. 536 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Jacqui registered a business interest with the Met, 537 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,960 my name is on the paperwork, that's it. 538 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,960 All completely above board. 539 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,960 I don't understand how this is a story. 540 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,960 Which is why they didn't touch it, 541 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,960 which is why no-one else in Fleet Street will touch it. 542 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,960 It'll go away. Maybe so. 543 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960 But someone with access to confidential police records 544 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960 is talking to Marunchak. 545 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,960 Maybe one of my own team, could be any one of my colleagues. 546 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,960 And they're talking directly to Rees. 547 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Have you reported it? To who? 548 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,960 I mean, if you think they're coming after you personally, 549 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,960 you're gonna need protection, surely? 550 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960 There must be a system. Mate, mate, listen. 551 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,320 The last time this happened, I went to my bosses. 552 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,960 You know what they said? 553 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,960 They said this is being dealt with in the bigger picture. 554 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,960 I had a van following me and my kids to school. 555 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,960 I had some fucker in my garden with a camera. 556 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,960 My wife thought it was a gun. I'm sorry. 557 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,960 I didn't know it was that bad. I mean, who else knows about this? 558 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,960 Well, that's my point - nobody knows. 559 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320 Daniel Morgan's family, do they know what you went through? 560 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Christ, no. They've got enough on their plate. 561 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320 They would've been on the phone to the commissioner, 562 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,960 the Home Secretary, everyone. And what good would that have done? 563 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,960 My higher ups knew that you lot were trying to disrupt 564 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,160 a major criminal investigation, and they did nothing. 565 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Sat on their arses and watched it happen. 566 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,960 Hung me out to dry. 567 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,960 Since when did we become the targets? 568 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,960 How is this in any way in the public interest? 569 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,160 I'm sorry, mate. I mean, I'm... I'm really sorry. 570 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,000 Right. 571 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Hi. Hi. 572 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,960 Sorry I'm late. Plate's in the oven. 573 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,960 Everything OK? Yeah, fine. 574 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,960 You sure? Meeting overran. 575 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,960 BALL RICOCHETS 576 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,960 HIGH-PITCHED RINGING 577 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960 RINGING INCREASES, STOPS ABRUPTLY 578 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,960 'Said, OK, so she's a brave girl, or a silly one.' 579 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,960 CROWD CHEERING ON TV 580 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,160 PHONE RINGS 581 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,960 You see, I thought that was really good. 582 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,960 It's pish, innit? 583 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960 David Seaman. Wouldn't get a game for Kilmarnock. 584 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,960 'Well, what will the judges make of that?' 585 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Hey, Gary. 'Dave, I can't do it.' 586 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,160 'I just can't do it.' Look, here's the thing. 587 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,960 You either need to sort yourself out, 588 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,960 and we crack on with this, or we don't. 'OK.' 589 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960 And you need to tell your team the truth. 590 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Because we cannot go on like this, we really can't. 591 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640 'After the break, tonight's last performance...' 592 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,960 'All right, there's something you need to know.' 593 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,960 I was there. 594 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,960 You were where, Gary? I was at the Golden Lion. 595 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,960 The night Daniel Morgan was killed. 596 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,960 I was in the car park. 597 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,960 They invited me to have a drink that night, didn't know why. 598 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000 I thought it had something to do with planning a theft. 599 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,960 Who's "they", Gary? Jimmy Cook. 600 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960 So, you went to the Golden Lion, that night? 601 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,320 Yeah, just sat by the door. And I saw Daniel come in. 602 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,960 He was talking with Jon Rees. 603 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,960 And there was some woman with them as well. Who was she? 604 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960 I don't know. I'd never seen her before. 605 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,960 And this bloke. 606 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,960 He taps me on the shoulder 607 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,960 and tells me he wants to talk to me in the gents. 608 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,480 He was one of the brothers. Scott, I think it was. 609 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960 The other brother's called Glenn. 610 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,160 I can't remember. 611 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,960 So, he told me to go to the gents, and, erm... 612 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,960 SNIFFS 613 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,960 ..and then we went out back cos he said... 614 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,960 Jimmy wanted to have a word with me in the car park. 615 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960 GARY SNIFFLES And we went out... 616 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,960 ..to the car park, and I saw Daniel lying there. 617 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,960 And the axe was still... 618 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,640 ..it was still in his head. 619 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,960 And Glenn was with Jimmy in the car. 620 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,000 And they drove off. 621 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,960 And Jimmy winked at me as they drove off. 622 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,160 He fucking winked at me. 623 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,320 The only thing I don't understand is if you're gonna murder someone, 624 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,960 why bring along a witness? 625 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,800 Why did they bring Eaton into the pub that night? 626 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,640 Were they trying to implicate him? 627 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,160 Well, he already knew about the murder 628 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,960 because they originally asked him to do it. 629 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,960 So, if you can be traced to the scene, 630 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,960 you're not gonna go around shooting your mouth off, are you? Hm. 631 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,960 It was a warning, a strategy to buy his silence. 632 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,960 A risky strategy. So, what else you got? 633 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,960 Two men, sitting by the door. Here. 634 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,960 And no-one at the time could ID him. 635 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,320 And that's where Eaton says he was. That's exactly where he says he was. 636 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,960 Before Scott, who we have to assume was Garry Vian, 637 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,960 took him to the gents' toilets and then outside. 638 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,960 Fits. It does. 639 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,960 It does fit. So, do we believe him? 640 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,960 It doesn't matter whether we believe him, Graham. 641 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,480 What matters is, can we make it stick? 642 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,160 RADIO STATIC CRACKLES 643 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,000 RADIO STATIC CRACKLES 644 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,160 CHATTER 645 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,000 Thank you. Thanks. 646 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,640 You look really nice. So do you. 647 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,960 Well, thank you. 648 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,320 We should do this more often. We should get some drinks. 649 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,960 You OK? I'm fine. I'm just tired. 650 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Yeah, you keep saying that. Because I am. 651 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,960 We reduced your hours. 652 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960 I was hoping that might make a difference. 653 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,960 Look, I'm really trying to find a way out of this, Jacqui. 654 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,960 For everyone. You're trying? 655 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,960 I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to solve the case. 656 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,960 You're trying to help me? 657 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,160 You make out like you do everything, but I'm around. 658 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,320 I try to be around. 659 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,960 Even when you're with us, you're not with us, David. 660 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,960 You're distant with the kids. You're tense all the time. 661 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,160 I feel like I'm walking on egg shells. 662 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,800 I'm really sorry. 663 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,960 I'm just tired, you know? 664 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,960 I'm not sleeping properly. 665 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,960 I keep getting these dizzy spells. 666 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,960 Because I'm tired, I think. 667 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,960 I don't feel safe. 668 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,960 Little things are just setting me off, 669 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,960 and I'm doing everything I possibly can, 670 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,960 but I just feel like I'm going backwards. 671 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,960 It was never meant to be like this. 672 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960 I really am sorry. Truly sorry. 673 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Thank you. 674 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960 You know, we're in a situation where it's like... 675 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,960 ..it's like we're drowning. 676 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,960 And when you're drowning, you need to get out of the water, right? 677 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,480 Right. But we can't get out of the water. 678 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,960 So we just have to find a way... 679 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,960 ..to get used to it. 680 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,960 Is that your solution, to get used to the water? 681 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,800 I don't know what else you want me to say. 682 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,160 Guv? Yep? 683 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,160 Can I have a word? Yes. 684 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,960 Gary's given us a new witness. And who's that, then? 685 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,960 She's called Lindsey Wright, an ex of Jimmy Cook. 686 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,960 Gary said she might talk. 687 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,480 This is all off the record, yeah? 688 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,960 I mean, I'm not being recorded or nothing? 689 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,960 Yes, Lindsey. Off the record. 690 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,960 And you can't say who gave you my name? 691 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,960 I protected the witness, 692 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,480 and we really can't give you any further details. 693 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,960 Told us that you used to go out with Jimmy Cook. 694 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960 Said you might know something about Daniel Morgan? 695 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,320 Jimmy and I saw each other for about eight years. 696 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,960 It weren't up to much. 697 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,800 He never took me places. He only saw me when it suited him. 698 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,960 I don't know much about Morgan. 699 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,160 Jimmy did... say some stuff, though. 700 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960 Anything you remember would be great. 701 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960 Well, the guy who did it was a nutter. 702 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960 Big bloke from Croydon. 703 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,800 Might have worked the doors of clubs sometimes. Er... 704 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,960 Can't remember his name. 705 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,960 Could his name have been Garry or Glenn? 706 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,960 Yeah, Glenn. It was Glenn. 707 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,640 And the murder was about a woman, 708 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,960 and Jon Rees had a go at Daniel in the car park before he was killed. 709 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960 I think it was him that took him out into the car park. 710 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,960 But that's all I really remember. 711 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,960 How would you feel, Lindsey, 712 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480 about coming into the station and making a statement? 713 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,960 LINDSEY SCOFFS Oh, no. 714 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,960 No, I can't do that. We all know what Jimmy's capable of. 715 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,960 If we can find a way to keep you safe? 716 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,800 You said I didn't have to. It was off the record. 717 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,960 You don't have to do anything you don't wanna do. 718 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960 How about we, erm, give you a call, 719 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,960 come back later...? No, no. 720 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,960 Don't call me, and don't come back. The thing is, it's my memory. 721 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,960 It's my antidepressants, they mess with my head. 722 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,480 I can't be sure of anything I just said. 723 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,960 Nah, it's all a mess, if I'm honest. 724 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,000 The only thing I can say for sure 725 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,960 is that Jimmy Cook definitely didn't do it. 726 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,960 I'm sorry, Guv. Aye. 727 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960 # Have a holly jolly Christmas 728 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,960 # It's the best time of the year 729 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,960 # I don't know If there'll be snow... # 730 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,960 SONG CONTINUES ON RADIO 731 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000 # And everyone you meet 732 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,960 # Oh-ho, the mistletoe 733 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,960 # Are hung where you can see. # 734 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,960 All very encouraging, 735 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,960 particularly the correlation between Ward and Eaton. 736 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,960 Just tell me what the CPS want. 737 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,960 Well, the call log for Gary Eaton's incomplete. 738 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,000 I'll get that to you. 739 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,320 And what about this potential new witness, 740 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,960 er, Cook's ex, Lindsey Wright? 741 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,800 Well, the story's golden, 742 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,320 but we haven't managed to pin her down just yet. 743 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,960 She'd make a difference. Is she pinnable? 744 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,960 Yeah, she's pinnable. 745 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,960 DOOR BANGS OPEN Armed police! Armed police! 746 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,960 INDISTINCT YELLING, SCREAMING 747 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,800 Whatever they think was happening with the credit cards, 748 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,960 it's got nothing to do with me. 749 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,000 I ain't done nothing. Can you tell 'em? 750 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,960 Look, all we know is that Surrey Police 751 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,960 are considering charging you and your boyfriend 752 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,960 with conspiracy to defraud. 753 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,960 Now, we don't know what that's based on. 754 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,000 But they don't go raiding people's homes for nothing, Lindsey. 755 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,960 So, what we do know is, if you decide to come in and help us, 756 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960 you could end up in a lot less trouble. 757 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,960 You did this on purpose. 758 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:01,960 Surrey Police is an entirely separate division, Lindsey. 759 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,640 This wasn't us. We're just here to offer you a way out, that's all. 760 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,960 We'll give you a call later, let you consider your choices. 761 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,960 It doesn't look like I've got a sodding choice, though, does it? 762 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,960 Come on. I'll take you back in. 763 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,960 Come on. LINDSEY SIGHS 764 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,960 SIGHS 765 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,800 DOOR OPENS 766 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,960 KEYS JANGLE What's going on? 767 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,960 Where are the kids? 768 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,960 They're with friends. 769 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,480 I'm going away for a bit, and they're coming with me. 770 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,960 Away where? 771 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,000 I can't. 772 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,480 I can't do this any more, just can't be here now. 773 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,320 I-I don't understand. How can you not understand? 774 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,960 No... No, you can't. 775 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,320 You need to talk to me. We need to talk about this. 776 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,960 I've talked, and I've talked, and I've talked, and I've... 777 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,160 There's just nothing else to say. 778 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,960 You're not taking those kids anywhere without my permission. 779 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,160 Please don't fight me. Please don't. I don't want to fight you. 780 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,960 So, when are you coming back? You'll see the kids. 781 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,960 I promise I will make sure that you see the kids. 782 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,480 And I'm truly sorry. 783 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,320 DOOR OPENS 784 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,960 I've just spoken to the CPS. 785 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,960 We can charge Rees, Cook, and the Vians 786 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,960 for the murder of Daniel Morgan, 787 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,960 and Fillery for perverting the course of justice. 788 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,960 We're over the line. We're over the bloody line. 789 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,960 Congratulations, Dave. Thank you. 790 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,160 The most investigated murder 791 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,480 in the history of the Metropolitan Police Service. 792 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,960 We cracked Daniel Morgan. 793 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,960 I'll go and tell the Morgans. 794 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,160 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 62902

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