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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:04,565 --> 00:01:06,567 When you create a story about yourself 4 00:01:06,609 --> 00:01:11,489 that's based on a lie about who you are and who your family is, 5 00:01:11,530 --> 00:01:13,365 sooner or later, it's bound to be revealed. 6 00:01:22,291 --> 00:01:26,003 It's a reflection of a state built on falsehoods and lies... 7 00:01:28,172 --> 00:01:31,133 the product of violent political changes... 8 00:01:34,178 --> 00:01:37,306 the story of someone looking for the truth about the past, 9 00:01:37,348 --> 00:01:38,849 the truth about themselves. 10 00:01:38,891 --> 00:01:40,142 Who are we really? 11 00:01:42,061 --> 00:01:45,439 A person who was looking for a way up and a way to be somebody 12 00:01:45,481 --> 00:01:49,026 in a part of the world where history's been manipulated. 13 00:07:05,384 --> 00:07:10,013 One of the legacies of Communism is a legacy of distrust. 14 00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:13,392 Distrust both for your neighbors and for people who you know, 15 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:15,978 but also distrust for the government. 16 00:07:16,019 --> 00:07:20,774 Jobbik seemed to offer something new, something energetic. 17 00:07:20,816 --> 00:07:24,194 It offered power to younger people. 18 00:07:24,236 --> 00:07:27,906 Csanád Szegedi was absolutely one of those young people, 19 00:07:27,948 --> 00:07:30,159 and he needed something to be part of. 20 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:53,617 One of the things Csanád was always interested in was power. 21 00:08:53,659 --> 00:08:57,162 Running the Hungarian Guard gave him that sense of being in charge of something. 22 00:08:59,915 --> 00:09:03,919 His love of symbols and his understanding of how they can be manipulated 23 00:09:03,961 --> 00:09:06,797 was very fundamental to his character. 24 00:09:08,674 --> 00:09:11,760 And Csanád immediately caught on that you could make things exciting 25 00:09:11,802 --> 00:09:14,554 by giving people something to look at, something to march in. 26 00:10:38,597 --> 00:10:40,599 Jobbik plays openly with taboos, 27 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,977 and the Hungarian Guard was the greatest game of taboo that they played. 28 00:10:47,439 --> 00:10:51,568 "We're challenging the narrative that fascism is bad and fascism was defeated. 29 00:10:51,610 --> 00:10:54,029 Now that there's an alternative version of Hungarian history 30 00:10:54,071 --> 00:10:55,906 which has been preserved in secret, 31 00:10:55,947 --> 00:10:59,368 and now we can bring it out in the open again." 32 00:10:59,409 --> 00:11:02,537 Csanád Szegedi was absolutely part of creating that sense. 33 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:27,706 Jobbik emerged from obscurity 34 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:32,002 to clinch that 15 percent and three seats in the European Parliament, 35 00:12:32,043 --> 00:12:35,797 revealing a striking shift to the right in Hungary. 36 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:38,175 The global financial crisis has hit hard here... 37 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,005 Csanád became, at a very young age, a very prominent person. 38 00:16:46,047 --> 00:16:48,925 He was connected to the leadership, connected to its founding, 39 00:16:48,967 --> 00:16:53,972 connected to the Hungarian Guard and connected to all of its publications and activities. 40 00:16:54,013 --> 00:16:55,849 Csanád wasn't merely an ideologue. 41 00:16:55,890 --> 00:17:00,270 He was somebody who sought to organize, to make money, to fund the party, 42 00:17:00,311 --> 00:17:04,399 but he attempted to show himself as an ordinary young Hungarian 43 00:17:04,441 --> 00:17:08,111 who was in touch with the way ordinary young Hungarians are, 44 00:17:08,153 --> 00:17:10,280 that he wasn't part of the establishment. 45 00:17:10,321 --> 00:17:13,032 He had a kind of antiestablishment credibility. 46 00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:26,421 Jobbik's a party that plays with rhetoric. It plays games. 47 00:17:26,463 --> 00:17:32,177 It burns the European flag in front of the European Commission Building in Budapest. 48 00:17:32,218 --> 00:17:37,474 They would play with some of the ideas of anti-Semitism using Jewish symbols 49 00:17:37,515 --> 00:17:41,227 or implies that somehow the Jews are responsible without actually saying so. 50 00:17:41,269 --> 00:17:45,190 And they'll often go quite far to saying things and then pull back. 51 00:17:45,231 --> 00:17:48,985 In other words, it's a game of hints and whispers and jokes and symbols. 52 00:18:07,212 --> 00:18:10,048 Once Csanád had been elected to the European Parliament, 53 00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:13,760 he and other MPs and other MEPs inside Jobbik 54 00:18:13,802 --> 00:18:16,596 began to see that if they really wanted power, 55 00:18:16,638 --> 00:18:19,182 if they really wanted to become a ruling party in Hungary, 56 00:18:19,224 --> 00:18:21,643 if they wanted a lasting, long political career, 57 00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:26,356 that they would have to move away from some of the more extreme elements in the party. 58 00:33:11,115 --> 00:33:13,367 I heard that on the Internet 59 00:33:13,409 --> 00:33:16,662 you could find one of the leaders of the Jobbik Party, 60 00:33:16,704 --> 00:33:18,664 that he's Jewish, with all the papers. 61 00:33:18,706 --> 00:33:20,541 I said listen, that's my expertise. 62 00:33:22,918 --> 00:33:24,962 I looked through it to see if it's real, 63 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,506 and it turned out that it was real. 64 00:33:27,548 --> 00:33:30,134 The guy is Jewish. No question about it. 65 00:33:30,175 --> 00:33:35,055 If he would come to me now to ask for a note if he's Jewish, 66 00:33:35,097 --> 00:33:36,890 I would give it to him. 67 00:33:36,932 --> 00:33:43,147 So that start... You know, it started me thinking about him as a Jew. 68 00:33:45,733 --> 00:33:49,695 I said, hey, this has to be an interesting halakhic question. 69 00:33:49,737 --> 00:33:53,031 You know, what does Jewish law say about a person like Szegedi Csanád 70 00:33:53,073 --> 00:33:56,410 if he comes to, uh, shul, if he comes to synagogue? 71 00:33:58,203 --> 00:34:01,290 I didn't know the answer yet, but the question's easy. 72 00:34:01,331 --> 00:34:03,208 It's a real question. 73 00:34:05,002 --> 00:34:07,379 Tuesday morning, imagine who called. 74 00:34:09,006 --> 00:34:11,467 I said, "No, you're teasing me." You know? 75 00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,011 What did he want? 76 00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:16,346 He said he wants to meet me. 77 00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:17,848 So, what should I do? 78 00:34:55,093 --> 00:34:58,430 This was a situation I never dreamt of. 79 00:34:58,472 --> 00:35:01,600 You know... You know, what am I supposed to tell him? 80 00:35:19,952 --> 00:35:22,412 A lot of Jews are very, very upset. 81 00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:27,042 "How could you sit down with such a Jew hater? 82 00:35:27,084 --> 00:35:31,380 How could you accept him and speak nicely to him?" 83 00:35:31,421 --> 00:35:35,050 Szegedi met with a Hungarian Orthodox rabbi 84 00:35:35,092 --> 00:35:37,135 to apologize for his offensive remarks 85 00:35:37,177 --> 00:35:40,138 and promised to visit Auschwitz to pay his respects. 86 00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:43,976 Szegedi was a founding member of the Hungarian Guard, a pro-Nazi party. 87 00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:18,468 When it eventually came out that Csanád really was Jewish, 88 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,972 the far-right Web sites and media went crazy. 89 00:36:22,014 --> 00:36:23,807 "Well, of course this would be true. 90 00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:27,519 The Jews are always disguising themselves as somebody else." 91 00:36:27,561 --> 00:36:29,980 You know, "Naturally, they've infiltrated everything. 92 00:36:30,022 --> 00:36:32,190 They've even infiltrated the far right." 93 00:36:32,232 --> 00:36:35,903 Um, there were others who thought, you know, it's all a lie. 94 00:36:35,944 --> 00:36:37,779 Csanád was playing a game the whole time. 95 00:36:37,821 --> 00:36:39,573 It's impossible that he couldn't have known this. 96 00:36:40,782 --> 00:36:43,035 People on the left in Hungary laughed. 97 00:36:43,076 --> 00:36:46,622 Obviously, there's something absurd and something sort of rather satisfying. 98 00:36:46,663 --> 00:36:48,665 He was pushed out with really nothing. 99 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:52,377 I mean, he had no obvious way to make money. He had no social circle. 100 00:36:52,419 --> 00:36:54,671 His whole life had been wrapped up in this other group of people 101 00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,798 from whom he was utterly cast out. 102 00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:07,179 I'm convinced Jewish law says 103 00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:09,431 we can accept him and we should accept him. 104 00:39:11,391 --> 00:39:15,187 Every Jew has to be welcome and is welcome, 105 00:39:15,228 --> 00:39:19,357 and no Jew can say, "Listen, I want him out of here 106 00:39:19,399 --> 00:39:21,568 because I don't like him because of his past." 107 00:39:24,738 --> 00:39:27,532 We decided that we're going to sit with him on a weekly basis 108 00:39:27,574 --> 00:39:30,202 and, you know... and learn and talk. 109 00:39:33,455 --> 00:39:36,333 He had these thoughts in his mind... 110 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:40,796 "How can I live with the thought that everything I did till today was wrong?" 111 00:39:43,673 --> 00:39:46,426 I never met a person like this, 112 00:39:46,468 --> 00:39:50,847 so broke, so void of his past and looking for a future. 113 00:39:53,141 --> 00:39:57,521 And I prayed to God, "Help me, that I shouldn't say anything wrong, 114 00:39:57,562 --> 00:39:59,940 but I should say all the right things." 115 00:43:10,338 --> 00:43:14,634 There's no smooth transition from extreme right to normal. 116 00:43:15,927 --> 00:43:18,054 It's not just, you know, a computer file. 117 00:43:18,096 --> 00:43:20,432 You just erase it and write a new one. 118 00:43:20,473 --> 00:43:23,893 It's a person. It's his mind, it's his heart, it's his convictions, 119 00:43:23,935 --> 00:43:27,814 it's his work, it's his pride, it's his identity... everything together. 120 00:43:30,525 --> 00:43:37,032 He specifically asked me, "Do I have to admit that everything that I did and said was wrong?" 121 00:43:37,073 --> 00:43:41,328 I told him, "Listen, there's no reason not to face the facts. 122 00:43:41,369 --> 00:43:46,750 If you come to the conclusion that you were wrong, you have to admit it." 123 00:43:46,791 --> 00:43:51,546 But he doesn't understand exactly yet how bad, 124 00:43:51,588 --> 00:43:52,964 uh, how wrong he was. 125 00:47:34,769 --> 00:47:39,357 When you have a regime that has been lying for 50 years 126 00:47:39,399 --> 00:47:41,568 and which everybody knows is lying, 127 00:47:41,609 --> 00:47:45,989 that means that you create a generation of people who no longer know what's really true. 128 00:47:47,574 --> 00:47:50,326 There's no agreement about what history is. 129 00:47:52,954 --> 00:47:56,958 In that atmosphere, the truth is often hidden or disguised. 130 00:47:58,126 --> 00:48:01,921 Just be quiet, withdraw, convert. 131 00:48:01,963 --> 00:48:04,966 You know, become mainstream. Try and fit in. 132 00:54:55,167 --> 00:54:58,462 Every day he's working on changing his identity 133 00:54:58,504 --> 00:55:00,506 and strengthening his new identity. 134 00:55:01,966 --> 00:55:04,719 He says he wants to be part of the Jewish community. 135 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,847 Fine. He can. But he still has a job. 136 00:55:07,888 --> 00:55:11,517 He has to, uh, apologize. 137 00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:16,939 But apologize meaning publicly, and also, more importantly, fix what he harmed. 138 00:55:30,786 --> 00:55:33,330 Eins, zwei, drei, vier, fünf. 139 00:55:33,372 --> 00:55:35,041 Thank you. 140 00:55:35,082 --> 00:55:36,167 Shalom. 141 00:57:06,507 --> 00:57:08,926 To be honest, I'm not quite sure. 142 00:57:08,968 --> 00:57:12,763 Uh, should I believe him or should I not believe him? 143 00:57:12,805 --> 00:57:15,724 How can somebody so extremely change his position? 144 00:57:38,706 --> 00:57:41,458 It's really hard for me to see him here 145 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:44,086 right in the middle of us. 146 00:57:44,128 --> 00:57:49,091 See him standing and talking to us and telling us, "I'm a Jew. 147 00:57:49,133 --> 00:57:53,804 I'm a real Jew. Believe me. I'm proud to be Jewish." 148 00:57:53,846 --> 00:57:55,514 I really don't believe him. 149 00:59:25,646 --> 00:59:28,107 There's a concept in Judaism about teshuva... 150 00:59:28,148 --> 00:59:30,734 repentance. 151 00:59:30,776 --> 00:59:36,323 God gives every person the ability to repent, 152 00:59:36,365 --> 00:59:40,452 and Maimonides says repentance means, uh... 153 00:59:40,494 --> 00:59:42,663 what shall we say... regret 154 00:59:42,705 --> 00:59:47,209 the bad deeds of the past 155 00:59:47,251 --> 00:59:50,838 to make a strong commitment for the future. 156 01:17:54,545 --> 01:17:56,756 Coming from the extreme right 157 01:17:56,798 --> 01:18:00,134 to the point where he is now is a very long way. 158 01:18:03,054 --> 01:18:07,558 He feels bad for the things that he did in the past. It's not enough. 159 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,646 It has to become a lecture that he will repeat again and again and again. 160 01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:16,401 That I was wrong, Jobbik was wrong, and anti-Semitism is wrong. 161 01:18:17,902 --> 01:18:20,822 So is he finished? No, he's not finished. 162 01:18:20,863 --> 01:18:23,950 But is he... is he going in the right direction? Absolutely. 163 01:20:36,749 --> 01:20:40,962 A year and a half ago, Csanád was the king of the anti-Semites. 164 01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:44,340 Now Csanád wants to be the king of the Semites. 165 01:20:44,382 --> 01:20:47,301 Montreal is the single Jewish community outside of Israel 166 01:20:47,343 --> 01:20:49,971 with the largest percentage of survivors. 167 01:20:50,012 --> 01:20:53,683 Bringing a guy like Csanád is really deeply insensitive. 168 01:20:53,724 --> 01:20:58,479 The soul, whether you want to look at the religious viewpoint or in general, 169 01:20:58,521 --> 01:21:02,108 is a very interesting piece of equipment, and we don't know. 170 01:21:02,149 --> 01:21:04,151 Nobody can look into somebody else's soul. 171 01:21:04,193 --> 01:21:08,197 I represent 600,000 Jews who've been killed. 172 01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:12,785 I am represent the people, including my family, my parents, 173 01:21:12,827 --> 01:21:16,497 who'd been killed by a Hungarian Nazi. 174 01:21:16,539 --> 01:21:19,750 And there's always anti-Semitism under various guises. 175 01:21:19,792 --> 01:21:24,547 You know what they say. If it walks like a duck and it sounds like a duck, must be a duck. 176 01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:24,774 All kosher. 177 01:24:24,226 --> 01:24:29,482 Mr. Szegedi was the poster boy in Central Europe 178 01:24:29,523 --> 01:24:31,817 of anti-Semitism. 179 01:24:31,859 --> 01:24:35,738 He was vice president of the Jobbik Nazi party, 180 01:24:35,780 --> 01:24:42,119 and during that time, he never missed an opportunity to express his anti-Semitism. 181 01:24:42,161 --> 01:24:44,497 We Jews believe in teshuva. 182 01:24:44,538 --> 01:24:49,001 We have to give every person a chance of repentance. 183 01:24:49,043 --> 01:24:54,048 He created an atmosphere, an anti-Semite atmosphere, in the city, 184 01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:57,551 that when you say, "You dirty Jew," it's just like saying hello. 185 01:24:58,594 --> 01:25:00,346 My part of the story is 186 01:25:00,387 --> 01:25:03,057 that I decided give him a chance. 187 01:25:03,098 --> 01:25:05,726 That's what Judaism teaches us. 188 01:25:05,768 --> 01:25:08,187 Love every Jew. Give him a chance. 189 01:25:11,148 --> 01:25:13,734 I really believe I will never become an anti-Semite. 190 01:25:15,361 --> 01:25:17,029 Okay? So, please, don't scream at me. 191 01:25:22,451 --> 01:25:24,203 He's an anti-Semite Jew. 192 01:25:24,245 --> 01:25:26,705 Used to be. 193 01:25:26,747 --> 01:25:28,457 He used to be. He was an anti-Semite... 194 01:25:47,142 --> 01:25:49,436 What do you call a real Jew? 195 01:25:49,478 --> 01:25:51,355 Is he eating kosher? Yes. 196 01:25:51,397 --> 01:25:54,817 Is he... Is he praying? He puts on the tefillin? 197 01:25:54,859 --> 01:25:56,068 Yes. 198 01:25:58,696 --> 01:26:01,156 Then I'll tell you something. 199 01:26:01,198 --> 01:26:04,118 Besides being a Nazi, he became a Nazi Jew. 200 01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:07,288 Could be, could be, but this type of Nazi I like. 201 01:26:17,965 --> 01:26:22,261 In the case of Csanád, there will always be a question of what's true. 202 01:26:22,303 --> 01:26:25,639 Anybody who makes that kind of... identify shift 203 01:26:25,681 --> 01:26:29,059 from, you know, far right to Orthodox Jew, will always be questioned, 204 01:26:29,101 --> 01:26:33,814 and people will always have some doubt about what he says. 205 01:26:33,856 --> 01:26:37,151 He himself says that he feels that he's a better person 206 01:26:37,192 --> 01:26:39,528 now that he's being honest about who he is, 207 01:26:39,570 --> 01:26:42,531 but, um, you know, maybe that's just another game. 208 01:27:45,719 --> 01:27:48,222 You have to love every Jew, 209 01:27:48,263 --> 01:27:49,723 no matter how wicked. 210 01:27:50,724 --> 01:27:54,311 Well, I found a very wicked one. 211 01:27:54,353 --> 01:27:57,982 You see, it's... You know, you have to love every Jew, and you have to try to help him 212 01:27:58,023 --> 01:28:01,193 in the way you have to love every person and try to help. 213 01:28:01,235 --> 01:28:04,279 If you're able to... to help somebody, 214 01:28:04,321 --> 01:28:06,073 you have no right not to help him. 215 01:28:10,494 --> 01:28:16,250 It wasn't an easy decision, but I felt it was the right decision. 216 01:28:16,291 --> 01:28:17,668 And, um... 217 01:28:17,710 --> 01:28:20,254 I, uh, really hope and I really believe 218 01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:23,841 that I will not be, um, disappointed. 219 01:28:25,926 --> 01:28:28,345 I pray... I pray that I shouldn't be disappointed. 18486

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