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There's been a thing happened with Rhys.
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- What's happened?
- They're saying he's been shot.
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Mercer shot him and Yatesy
got him the gun he used.
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- No comment.
- It's them Croccy Crew lads:
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- Nathan Quinn...
- No comment.
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- ... Dean Kelly...
- No comment.
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- All right, Jordan.
- Are you boys all right?
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- No, we're all right, Claire.
- OK.
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Take this to yours and
hide it away somewhere, OK.
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- Why me?
- Well, you're a good little boy,
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aren't you? Never been
in trouble with no-one.
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No-one's gonna come knocking
round your door, are they?
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No doing a runner. I
know where you live.
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Kev, you've gotta get
some gear for Florida.
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Go down the shops with her, Kevin.
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Will you leave it, Mum?
I don't wanna go out.
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You've got nothing to worry about, son.
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They've got nothing
on you. You'll be fine.
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There's three people we're
doing this for: the family.
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Keep them at the forefront
of your minds at all times.
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And him. I'll do my upmost
to get whoever did this
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- and anyone else who's helped 'em.
- Thank you.
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Come on, you look gorgeous.
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I'm just checking me teeth.
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Rhys Jones's family
should be celebrating
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his 12th birthday tomorrow.
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Instead, they're looking for his killer.
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Nothing could have prepared me for it.
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There was all people in a circle and...
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... as I got through the circle...
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... Rhys was just...
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lying there in a pool of blood...
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His eyes were wide open
and I knew he was gone.
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But I just got hold of him, and I...
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... I kept saying to
him, "Just stay with me.
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Stay with me, baby."
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As a result of people calling in,
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significant information
has been received,
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as to the potential
whereabouts of the firearm
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used in Rhys's murder.
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We've had the same information
from several different sources...
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- What are you doing?
- I wanna burn it.
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- ... a hopeful development.
- It's the thing out the phone.
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There you are.
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You have solved some of the
most high-profile cases...
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They don't know I've got that one.
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We're hoping in the next 60 minutes...
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It stinks, that. Turn it round.
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It's the gold thing on
the chip you wanna burn.
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- I know. I'll turn it round now.
- Go underneath it.
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That's the thing burning,
isn't it? The fucking chip?
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That's on it, yeah.
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Finished.
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Makes no difference whether
they find it or not now.
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They'd never be able to trace it.
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Do the right thing and
come forward tonight.
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- I really appreciate that.
- Thank you. Thanks.
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So what's the new info, then, boss?
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- What did we get?
- We got fuck all.
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I just made that up to throw the
cat amongst the pigeons, Danny Boy.
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We need that weapon.
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Ooh! Shall we have a photo here?
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Yeah. Kev, here you are.
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You do the honours.
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Thank you.
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Come on. Smile.
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Go on. I'll do you.
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Is it like you thought it'd be, Kev?
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- Yeah.
- I know. Yeah.
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Right, smile.
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Lovely. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
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Where's my water, Owen?
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Steve,
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how's it going?
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I won't be able to do it.
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Our Neil said he'd read it for me.
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It sounds weird, but
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having him home the last day or so...
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... it's like I'm losing
him all over again.
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I'm dreading leaving the house.
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Did you see me on the telly last night?
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- Yeah, I did as it happens, yeah.
- What did you think?
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I thought you looked a
bit shifty, to be honest.
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I wouldn't buy a used car off you.
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Fuck off, you.
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Anything in on the shooter yet?
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Er, no, nothing overnight. No, mate.
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We're snookered without that, Mark.
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How's Mercer's statement looking?
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Well, he puts himself at
the address of Dean Kelly
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at the time of the shooting.
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Now, we've interviewed
Kelly this morning,
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and he's confirmed that
Mercer was with him all day.
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If Mercer said he was
Chinese, Kelly'd confirm it.
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I know, mate.
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The families of Mercer and Yates
have also given them alibis, so...
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That's fine, let them.
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We'll tear holes in their alibis.
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After we put their sons away,
we'll put them away as well
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for attempting to pervert
the course of justice.
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Mark, I've got to go.
I'll speak to you later.
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OK, then. See you later.
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It's awful.
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She said her lad was just
lying there in a pool of blood
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- when she saw him.
- Oh, God.
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I'd be in bits.
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The night this happened,
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that was when Mercer and all his
mates came round here, wasn't it?
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Jordan has mates round all the time.
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Hardly all the time.
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- I'd never do that.
- Who are you talking to?
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Fuck off, will you?
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All right, Claire?
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I've come round to see Latch.
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Again?
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- Why don't you come in, Sean?
- Nah, you're all right.
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See you later, Latch.
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See you, Claire.
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See you, Sean.
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- What are you "Never gonna do"?
- Nothing.
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Leave me alone, yeah,
you fucking nosey bitch!
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It's horrible how he talks to you.
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I know.
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- I'm sorry.
- It's not your fault, love.
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Go on. Get to bed.
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You've been on your feet all night.
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I'll pop back later.
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OK.
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This is a poem for Rhys
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written by his dad, my brother Stephen.
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"Glistening eyes and cheeky face,
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Angel's halo out of place... "
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"You to me are my whole world...
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Wrapped up special in one word.
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Flying freely as a bird.
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Wrapped up special in one word.
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All the special times we shared...
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And you're now asleep, at peace.
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Wrapped up in a word...
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that's Rhys."
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Cheer up, Kev.
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Woooo!
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You sit there saying
no-one knows what happened.
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- All fucking Croccy knows!
- There's one lad.
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There's one lad on a
bike, who's the gunman.
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So there's one lad gonna get the blame.
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No comment.
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Do you think Sean's going
to sit there and say,
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"James Yates gave me a gun"?
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No. End of story. I bought that
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three years ago. End of story.
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What can they prove? Nothing.
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What about the thing?
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We went round Latch's straight after.
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- He got someone to come and collect it.
- Who?
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This lad Latch knows.
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He came round in a taxi.
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It's in his fucking house now.
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What if it got raided?
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You heard that bizzie
on the telly last night.
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Hey, that's bollocks.
They ain't got no tip-off.
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They don't know this lid.
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They can't link him to me anyway.
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Can you trust Latch?
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Yeah.
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He's sound.
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He'd never cross Sean.
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So what did you do
after you left Latch's?
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Come out here. I can't hear
you with that fucking telly on.
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They don't know this lid.
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They can't link him to me anyway.
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Can you trust Latch?
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He's sound.
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He'd never cross Sean.
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So what did you do
after you left Latch's?
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Come out here. I can't hear
you with that fucking telly on.
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All right. They're talking
about a murder weapon.
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That's a given. And
the bizzie on the telly
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must be me, so that worked a treat.
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Then someone called "Latch",
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or, "a lad Latch knows". Yeah?
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- Who's Latch?
- We're checking for an ID now.
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Right, well, you two have
another listen to that.
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Nice one, Matt.
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They don't know this lid.
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They can't link him to me anyway.
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Can you trust Latch?
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He's sound.
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He'd never cross Sean.
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- Mrs Olssen?
- Yeah?
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We want to speak to your
son Jordan. Is he in?
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What's going on? I was asleep.
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We've got a warrant to search this
address in connection with the...
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Hello, Latch.
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Just stay nice and calm,
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there's a good lad.
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You're all right, Jordy.
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Just gonna take you down the police
station, ask you a few questions.
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Go and get your coat. Go 'head.
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You got your nickname "Latch"
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cos you just latch on to everyone else,
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is that right, Jordan?
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You do what they say, yeah?
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I suppose so.
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How long is it since you've
been out the house, Jordan?
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About two years.
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He was beaten up really bad.
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Who beat you up?
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He got involved with some boys
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and they got in trouble with the police.
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The police questioned me.
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I just said who my mates were.
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That's not grassing.
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But they accused you of being a grass?
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And they beat you up.
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They put him in hospital.
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I was out of me mind with worrying.
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Since then, he's got so paranoid,
he won't go out any more.
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Did anybody come to your house
the evening of August 22nd, Jordan?
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Please think very carefully.
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No, not in the evening.
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Me mate come round earlier in
the day to play PlayStation,
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but nobody come round
the rest of the day.
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That's not right, is it, Jordan?
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- I think you've made a mistake.
- No, I haven't.
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He's on medication for ADHD
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and when he doesn't take it,
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it can make him forgetful.
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August 22nd, Jordan.
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That was a Wednesday night.
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- England were playing football that night.
- No.
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Like I said, I just saw me mate
Gobbo that day and nobody else.
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Me ma's got it wrong.
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I'm not gonna say, Sean, Yatesy,
Nathan, everyone was in here.
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- You're fucking dumb.
- Why?
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They've been fucking nicked for it.
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They're been questioned.
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And that'll make it worse
for 'em, you soft cunt.
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And there was you wanting
to tell them they was here.
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But they were.
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Little snitch.
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Oh, God, you fucking are.
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Sitting in front of the bizzies,
"Oh, I think he's made a mistake."
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You're lucky I never cracked
you while I was in there.
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This isn't a thing to lie about.
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Your mum can't lie.
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That's why Sean came round, wasn't it?
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To get you to cover up for him?
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Fucking dykes!
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You're through to Merseyside
Police. How can I help?
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Are yous lot soft in the head?
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The kid that's done this is Sean Mercer.
254
00:15:23,444 --> 00:15:26,454
And his mate, James Yates, is
the one got him the gun, right?
255
00:15:27,498 --> 00:15:31,104
So why have I just seen
Dean Kelly and Nathan Quinn
256
00:15:31,151 --> 00:15:33,874
and them pair hanging
around in Carr Lane,
257
00:15:33,994 --> 00:15:36,419
large as fucking life?
258
00:15:45,411 --> 00:15:48,551
No bullets or bullet
casings from the scene,
259
00:15:50,046 --> 00:15:51,844
no clear CCTV images...
260
00:15:52,810 --> 00:15:54,957
... a killer whose
identity everybody knows
261
00:15:54,964 --> 00:15:56,408
but who we can't charge.
262
00:15:57,867 --> 00:16:01,269
People are getting frustrated by
our perceived lack of progress, Dave.
263
00:16:02,827 --> 00:16:05,481
They'll get even more
frustrated if we charge Mercer
264
00:16:05,496 --> 00:16:07,775
- too soon and he walks.
- What do we know, Dave?
265
00:16:08,143 --> 00:16:10,734
Dixie, we know that the killer
was on a silver mountain bike.
266
00:16:10,925 --> 00:16:12,716
We know that Sean Mercer arrived
267
00:16:12,748 --> 00:16:14,163
at Jordan Olssen's house
268
00:16:14,283 --> 00:16:15,783
on a silver mountain bike
269
00:16:15,819 --> 00:16:17,387
and he got there about 7:30.
270
00:16:18,054 --> 00:16:20,854
- And that's 23 Blackley Close?
- Yeah.
271
00:16:21,111 --> 00:16:23,595
And we know that he was
met there by James Yates,
272
00:16:23,636 --> 00:16:25,094
who provided him with the gun
273
00:16:25,477 --> 00:16:28,307
and also Nathan Quinn,
another gang member.
274
00:16:28,626 --> 00:16:31,374
We also know that the gun
was probably a revolver.
275
00:16:31,494 --> 00:16:34,305
We know that a lad turned up
by a taxi to take the gun away,
276
00:16:34,324 --> 00:16:36,156
then Mercer, Yates and Quinn
277
00:16:36,276 --> 00:16:37,778
left the house at some point after that.
278
00:16:37,785 --> 00:16:39,476
- We know this from the probes?
- Yeah.
279
00:16:40,282 --> 00:16:41,594
Yeah, we know a lot of things,
280
00:16:42,018 --> 00:16:44,436
but none of it's any good to
us unless we can corroborate it,
281
00:16:44,469 --> 00:16:47,091
- and that's the problem.
- What we need is a timetable.
282
00:16:47,693 --> 00:16:50,012
A schedule for when we
think we're going to be able
283
00:16:50,031 --> 00:16:52,247
to bring charges and
get those responsible
284
00:16:52,247 --> 00:16:53,589
for this murder off the streets,
285
00:16:53,618 --> 00:16:55,175
before there is any more violence.
286
00:16:55,678 --> 00:16:58,226
- I know that's what you'd like...
- Just tell me what you need.
287
00:16:58,525 --> 00:17:01,548
You're the man with the track
record, the man who gets results.
288
00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:05,315
The resources of an entire
police force are at your disposal,
289
00:17:05,348 --> 00:17:08,100
so just tell us what you need.
290
00:17:16,432 --> 00:17:18,014
I don't know anything now.
291
00:17:21,552 --> 00:17:23,117
I don't know what day it is.
292
00:17:24,065 --> 00:17:25,793
I don't know what we had for tea.
293
00:17:28,328 --> 00:17:30,530
I don't even know if
I love you any more.
294
00:17:33,989 --> 00:17:37,450
I just can't feel anything.
295
00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:42,940
We can't think about days.
296
00:17:45,149 --> 00:17:47,151
We just have to think about hours.
297
00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:50,553
I think to myself,
"Get through this hour.
298
00:17:50,626 --> 00:17:52,442
Just this next hour.
299
00:17:53,357 --> 00:17:54,440
And if I can do that,
300
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,494
then maybe I'll think
about the next one."
301
00:18:04,219 --> 00:18:05,925
That's all we can do.
302
00:18:09,815 --> 00:18:10,938
Yeah.
303
00:18:34,568 --> 00:18:35,640
Claire.
304
00:18:37,248 --> 00:18:40,106
Hey, we want to know what
was said to the police.
305
00:18:40,492 --> 00:18:41,998
You have been questioned, haven't you?
306
00:18:42,031 --> 00:18:42,954
Jordan has, yeah.
307
00:18:43,384 --> 00:18:44,558
And what did he say?
308
00:18:44,883 --> 00:18:47,023
Did he say Nathan was
round here that night?
309
00:18:47,453 --> 00:18:49,214
I don't think that's your
business, Marie, is it?
310
00:18:49,334 --> 00:18:51,147
It is if he's been talking about Nathan.
311
00:18:51,792 --> 00:18:52,963
I don't want the worry, Claire.
312
00:18:52,970 --> 00:18:54,593
I'm on chemo, you know that.
313
00:18:57,328 --> 00:18:58,954
He said nobody came round that night.
314
00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:01,302
Just Gobbo earlier in the day.
315
00:19:02,024 --> 00:19:03,002
Sound.
316
00:19:03,226 --> 00:19:05,281
They've all got alibis anyway, the boys.
317
00:19:05,718 --> 00:19:07,239
Nathan, Sean, Yatesy...
318
00:19:07,266 --> 00:19:09,900
I'm not being funny or nothing,
if they've all got alibis,
319
00:19:09,977 --> 00:19:12,453
- what are they worried about?
- I don't want the aggro.
320
00:19:12,737 --> 00:19:14,859
- I haven't got the strength to face it.
- All right, Nathan.
321
00:19:15,508 --> 00:19:16,641
I haven't said nothing.
322
00:19:16,948 --> 00:19:18,311
We've got alibis, us.
323
00:19:20,298 --> 00:19:21,545
What about you, Claire?
324
00:19:22,544 --> 00:19:24,612
- Have you said anything to them?
- Not yet.
325
00:19:25,133 --> 00:19:27,434
- They haven't asked me yet.
- And what will you say if they do?
326
00:19:29,253 --> 00:19:30,193
Dunno.
327
00:19:30,649 --> 00:19:32,106
What's the fucking matter with you?
328
00:19:33,099 --> 00:19:34,824
But you were here, Nathan, weren't you,
329
00:19:35,094 --> 00:19:36,848
and Sean and Yatesy?
330
00:19:36,863 --> 00:19:38,022
And you'd tell them that?
331
00:19:38,317 --> 00:19:39,831
I haven't told anyone anything.
332
00:19:39,849 --> 00:19:41,435
You'd have that on your conscience?
333
00:19:41,471 --> 00:19:42,994
What if somebody saw them round here?
334
00:19:43,078 --> 00:19:45,485
You'd better think very
carefully about this, Claire.
335
00:19:45,736 --> 00:19:48,220
Whatever you do, you've
gotta live with it.
336
00:19:48,967 --> 00:19:50,506
Sorry you've got cancer, Marie,
337
00:19:50,765 --> 00:19:53,269
but don't turn up on my
fucking doorstep threatening me.
338
00:19:53,306 --> 00:19:54,216
This'll kill me.
339
00:19:54,490 --> 00:19:56,436
You'll fucking kill me, Claire.
340
00:19:56,444 --> 00:19:57,673
- Get in!
- Hey!
341
00:19:57,899 --> 00:20:00,444
Hey, he wasn't here, so
don't go saying he was!
342
00:20:00,484 --> 00:20:02,008
There's something wrong with you!
343
00:21:18,137 --> 00:21:20,346
The 22nd. The 22nd...
344
00:21:20,786 --> 00:21:22,386
Yeah, any time that evening.
345
00:21:22,426 --> 00:21:24,647
Any fares to or from Blackley Close?
346
00:21:26,329 --> 00:21:27,764
There's nothing here.
347
00:21:29,601 --> 00:21:30,782
Oh, hang on.
348
00:21:31,226 --> 00:21:35,093
7:52, pick up 14 Gaynes
Lane to 23 Blackley Close.
349
00:21:35,106 --> 00:21:36,906
Wait and return. Name of "Kev."
350
00:21:37,108 --> 00:21:39,140
OK. Who was the driver?
351
00:21:39,260 --> 00:21:40,936
Let's have a look.
352
00:21:41,132 --> 00:21:43,460
Can you remember anything
he said on the journey?
353
00:21:43,944 --> 00:21:47,126
When he got there he was speaking
on his mobile phone with someone.
354
00:21:47,246 --> 00:21:48,903
I heard him say, "I'm outside now".
355
00:21:49,023 --> 00:21:51,195
Then this other lad, about the same age,
356
00:21:51,236 --> 00:21:52,585
come out and let him in.
357
00:21:53,224 --> 00:21:55,866
Did you notice if he was carrying
anything when he came out?
358
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:57,786
Not that I saw.
359
00:21:58,866 --> 00:22:01,730
He had a big top on, he could have
had something hidden under that.
360
00:22:02,986 --> 00:22:05,322
How did he seem to you? Was he nervous?
361
00:22:05,442 --> 00:22:06,986
He seemed a bit on edge,
362
00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:10,026
but I thought he was gonna do
a runner or something, you know.
363
00:22:10,066 --> 00:22:11,979
Pickup was supposed to be at No.14,
364
00:22:12,001 --> 00:22:14,804
but I got there a little bit early
and saw him coming out of No.8.
365
00:22:15,426 --> 00:22:16,868
That stuck in me mind.
366
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,786
Why use a different address?
367
00:22:19,814 --> 00:22:21,644
That's 8 Gaynes Lane.
368
00:22:31,639 --> 00:22:33,946
Armed police! Show yourselves!
369
00:22:34,399 --> 00:22:35,986
Armed police!
370
00:22:36,976 --> 00:22:38,358
Room clear!
371
00:22:40,583 --> 00:22:41,986
Room clear!
372
00:22:44,156 --> 00:22:46,041
Show yourselves! Armed police!
373
00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:49,804
Clear! Room clear!
374
00:22:50,022 --> 00:22:52,225
- In there.
- Clear!
375
00:22:52,236 --> 00:22:53,366
Room clear!
376
00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:39,527
Jackie...
377
00:24:03,452 --> 00:24:04,802
You're joking.
378
00:24:05,012 --> 00:24:06,340
And you're OK?
379
00:24:06,892 --> 00:24:08,744
Well, where are you staying tonight?
380
00:24:09,935 --> 00:24:11,685
Yeah, I'll speak to him now.
381
00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:13,459
No, I'll call you later.
382
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:15,969
OK.
383
00:24:16,089 --> 00:24:17,233
OK.
384
00:24:24,239 --> 00:24:25,410
Kevin,
385
00:24:25,716 --> 00:24:26,978
come here.
386
00:24:27,603 --> 00:24:28,825
Come here.
387
00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:37,931
Mum saying she's back from Auntie Jean's
388
00:24:37,954 --> 00:24:39,403
and the police have been at home,
389
00:24:39,523 --> 00:24:42,197
searching the house from top to bottom.
390
00:24:42,618 --> 00:24:43,965
What's going on, Kevin?
391
00:24:45,333 --> 00:24:46,714
I can't tell you.
392
00:24:46,951 --> 00:24:49,270
- What do you mean you can't tell me?
- I can't tell you.
393
00:24:49,298 --> 00:24:50,474
Do you know what this is all about?
394
00:24:50,594 --> 00:24:51,683
- He doesn't.
- Do you?
395
00:24:51,710 --> 00:24:53,392
- He doesn't know.
- Doesn't know what?
396
00:24:53,556 --> 00:24:55,962
- I can't tell anyone.
- Kevin?
397
00:24:55,975 --> 00:24:57,520
- I can't.
- Look at me. Right,
398
00:24:57,561 --> 00:24:59,530
the police have been round our house
399
00:24:59,557 --> 00:25:02,122
and they've gone through
everything looking for something.
400
00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:03,020
Sorry.
401
00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:04,730
- What are you sorry for?
- I can't tell you.
402
00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:07,128
- Oh, my God!
- You're scaring the shit out of me now.
403
00:25:07,142 --> 00:25:08,833
- It's bad. What the
hell has been going on?
404
00:25:08,851 --> 00:25:10,665
I don't want anyone else involved.
405
00:25:10,684 --> 00:25:12,821
- Involved in what?
- It's bad.
406
00:25:12,826 --> 00:25:14,289
- What are they looking for?
- It's bad.
407
00:25:14,339 --> 00:25:15,958
- What's bad?
- It's bad. I can't tell you.
408
00:25:15,994 --> 00:25:17,143
What have you been hiding?
409
00:25:17,153 --> 00:25:18,739
- It's bad.
- What's bad?!
410
00:26:03,677 --> 00:26:05,742
Look, I appreciate you're on holiday.
411
00:26:05,862 --> 00:26:09,033
I'm sorry to have to contact you,
but it's a very serious matter.
412
00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:11,844
He can't come to the phone right
now. He's in too much of a state.
413
00:26:12,432 --> 00:26:13,699
Erm...
414
00:26:13,895 --> 00:26:15,089
Saturday?
415
00:26:15,476 --> 00:26:16,429
OK.
416
00:26:17,327 --> 00:26:20,194
So you're arriving 9:35.
417
00:26:20,244 --> 00:26:21,643
9:30, Manchester.
418
00:26:21,763 --> 00:26:23,662
- Is that Manchester, yeah?
- Yes.
419
00:26:23,877 --> 00:26:25,226
OK.
420
00:26:25,408 --> 00:26:27,496
- OK.
- Right, er, 9:30.
421
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:29,256
Yeah, yeah. We'll be at the airport.
422
00:26:30,618 --> 00:26:31,512
OK.
423
00:26:31,548 --> 00:26:32,870
- All right.
- Thank you very much.
424
00:26:32,911 --> 00:26:34,050
- Yeah.
- Bye-bye.
425
00:26:35,091 --> 00:26:36,244
Back Saturday morning.
426
00:26:36,326 --> 00:26:37,971
- Was that the sister?
- Yeah.
427
00:26:37,989 --> 00:26:40,177
- What did she sound like?
- Decent, to be honest.
428
00:26:40,255 --> 00:26:42,980
I could hear the kid in the
background, in a right state.
429
00:27:15,699 --> 00:27:18,534
Kevin Moody, aged 16.
430
00:27:19,528 --> 00:27:23,029
Sandra Oxley, Kevin's sister,
acting as appropriate adult.
431
00:27:26,046 --> 00:27:28,056
I was at home watching the England game.
432
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:30,523
I got a call on my mobile.
433
00:27:31,972 --> 00:27:34,164
I didn't recognise the
number, but I answered it.
434
00:27:35,276 --> 00:27:36,611
It was Sean Mercer.
435
00:27:36,949 --> 00:27:38,649
Were you surprised he called you?
436
00:27:39,871 --> 00:27:40,992
Yeah.
437
00:27:41,557 --> 00:27:43,576
I don't think he's
ever called me before.
438
00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:45,798
How do you know each other?
439
00:27:46,065 --> 00:27:48,389
We've sort of known each
other since we were kids.
440
00:27:48,598 --> 00:27:49,806
And now?
441
00:27:50,318 --> 00:27:52,067
We see each other about.
442
00:27:52,747 --> 00:27:54,558
We're not mates, or anything.
443
00:27:54,829 --> 00:27:56,808
Maybe a nod in the street...
444
00:27:56,822 --> 00:27:58,184
How did he get your number?
445
00:27:59,238 --> 00:28:01,192
I think Deano might have give it him.
446
00:28:01,875 --> 00:28:03,092
Dean Kelly.
447
00:28:04,701 --> 00:28:07,798
Do you know what Croccy
Crew and Nogga Dogz are?
448
00:28:07,918 --> 00:28:09,186
Yeah.
449
00:28:13,188 --> 00:28:14,447
They're gangs.
450
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,671
Are you a member of a gang, Kevin?
451
00:28:16,712 --> 00:28:17,829
No.
452
00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:20,400
What did Mercer say to you on the phone?
453
00:28:21,877 --> 00:28:24,607
He asked me to come to this
house in Blackley Close.
454
00:28:24,803 --> 00:28:26,220
And why did you go?
455
00:28:28,608 --> 00:28:29,998
I suppose I was a bit worried
456
00:28:30,021 --> 00:28:31,999
about what might've
happened if I said no.
457
00:28:32,524 --> 00:28:34,198
What happened when you got there?
458
00:28:35,140 --> 00:28:36,644
Jordan come out.
459
00:28:37,096 --> 00:28:38,449
Jordan Olssen.
460
00:28:39,019 --> 00:28:41,440
- He took me inside.
- And then what?
461
00:28:43,003 --> 00:28:44,612
We went upstairs.
462
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,900
I was on the landing,
463
00:28:46,927 --> 00:28:48,678
then he come out and give me this
464
00:28:48,798 --> 00:28:50,027
plastic bag.
465
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:52,355
Who came out?
466
00:29:04,038 --> 00:29:06,486
It was hard to see. It
was a bit dark up there.
467
00:29:06,527 --> 00:29:08,655
But, from what you
could see, who was it?
468
00:29:10,829 --> 00:29:12,393
I think it might have...
469
00:29:19,918 --> 00:29:22,129
I think it was possibly Sean Mercer.
470
00:29:22,589 --> 00:29:25,438
- Why only, "Might have been"?
- I couldn't see him clearly.
471
00:29:27,803 --> 00:29:29,239
How certain are you
472
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:31,340
that it was Sean Mercer
who gave you the bag?
473
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,436
I don't know.
474
00:29:36,747 --> 00:29:38,574
Well, can we put a percentage on it?
475
00:29:38,656 --> 00:29:41,798
- Like what?
- What percentage out of 100?
476
00:29:48,589 --> 00:29:50,221
Eighty per cent.
477
00:29:54,245 --> 00:29:55,421
OK.
478
00:29:57,638 --> 00:29:59,358
What was in the bag?
479
00:30:01,825 --> 00:30:02,682
A gun.
480
00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:04,537
And what did you do with this gun?
481
00:30:04,811 --> 00:30:06,511
I hid it in the dog kennel.
482
00:30:06,918 --> 00:30:09,272
A few days later, Dean Kelly came round.
483
00:30:09,558 --> 00:30:11,718
He moved it from the dog kennel
484
00:30:12,322 --> 00:30:13,913
and put it up in the loft.
485
00:30:15,198 --> 00:30:17,983
- He sort of threatened me.
- How did he threaten you?
486
00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:21,398
He said I weren't to tell anyone.
487
00:30:22,312 --> 00:30:24,542
Everyone knows what those gangs can do.
488
00:30:25,534 --> 00:30:27,448
So you've told us about the gun, Kevin.
489
00:30:27,568 --> 00:30:29,231
When we found the bag in the loft,
490
00:30:29,598 --> 00:30:32,772
there was also another bag
full of rounds of ammunition.
491
00:30:36,998 --> 00:30:38,359
What have you got to say about that?
492
00:30:40,476 --> 00:30:43,518
I didn't know anything
about a bag of ammunition.
493
00:30:43,991 --> 00:30:45,347
It was just a gun.
494
00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:46,608
Just that one.
495
00:30:47,316 --> 00:30:49,358
I don't know anything about another bag
496
00:30:49,373 --> 00:30:51,094
or any ammunition.
497
00:31:06,183 --> 00:31:08,553
Everybody knows it's him
who shot that little boy.
498
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,029
Why don't you arrest him?
499
00:31:10,605 --> 00:31:12,785
My mate says nobody'll
say anything against him
500
00:31:12,807 --> 00:31:15,386
cos they're too scared, but
if you get him off the street,
501
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,475
maybe people'll start talking to you.
502
00:31:18,357 --> 00:31:19,834
Appeal for information?
503
00:31:19,859 --> 00:31:21,915
Appeal for dreams. You
live in Cuckoo Land!
504
00:31:22,035 --> 00:31:23,845
What you're asking for is a grass.
505
00:31:23,896 --> 00:31:25,387
People round here don't grass,
506
00:31:25,394 --> 00:31:26,641
cos that's the lowest of the low.
507
00:31:26,674 --> 00:31:29,209
That's worse than the lad
who actually did the shooting.
508
00:31:48,352 --> 00:31:49,869
That's really annoying me.
509
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,783
- What?
- You doing that.
510
00:31:55,021 --> 00:31:57,051
I thought you said you
wanted the room doing?
511
00:31:57,409 --> 00:31:58,477
Then.
512
00:31:59,907 --> 00:32:02,926
I said I wanted it doing
then. I couldn't care less now.
513
00:32:10,411 --> 00:32:12,241
Will you just stop it?
514
00:32:13,156 --> 00:32:15,059
You're driving me mad! How can... ?
515
00:32:16,685 --> 00:32:19,100
How can you even concentrate? I...
516
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,452
I can't even paint me nails.
517
00:33:00,753 --> 00:33:01,706
I can't...
518
00:33:02,636 --> 00:33:04,422
I can't do this!
519
00:33:05,137 --> 00:33:07,339
I'm never gonna get through this.
520
00:33:22,097 --> 00:33:24,467
Eighty per cent sure
isn't good enough, then,
521
00:33:24,845 --> 00:33:26,144
from this boy?
522
00:33:27,138 --> 00:33:28,387
No.
523
00:33:29,107 --> 00:33:30,739
No, it has to be a hundred,
524
00:33:31,213 --> 00:33:33,049
or it won't stand up in court.
525
00:33:35,884 --> 00:33:38,281
- Is that horrible?
- No.
526
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:45,039
No, I had a burger earlier on.
527
00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:47,518
You still love me though, don't you?
528
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:51,538
How do you get him up to a hundred?
529
00:33:54,687 --> 00:33:56,036
I don't know.
530
00:33:58,678 --> 00:34:00,206
He's only young.
531
00:34:00,878 --> 00:34:02,275
He doesn't know what to say.
532
00:34:04,358 --> 00:34:06,587
Could you imagine our
David in that situation?
533
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,691
They're the same age,
534
00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:14,983
near enough.
535
00:34:17,495 --> 00:34:18,648
I told you...
536
00:34:19,354 --> 00:34:23,593
I begged you and Sam to keep
away from lads like that.
537
00:34:24,085 --> 00:34:25,518
I couldn't help it.
538
00:34:27,462 --> 00:34:30,798
- I'm sorry, Mum.
- Sandra's disgusted with you.
539
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:35,115
This... this isn't just you
540
00:34:35,343 --> 00:34:37,645
that's mixed up in this now.
541
00:34:41,542 --> 00:34:43,962
We need to discuss what
we do with Kevin Moody.
542
00:34:44,162 --> 00:34:45,766
I don't think we should charge him.
543
00:34:46,638 --> 00:34:47,630
Why not?
544
00:34:48,204 --> 00:34:49,959
You've got the gun. You
can link him to the gun.
545
00:34:49,996 --> 00:34:50,999
Why aren't you charging him?
546
00:34:51,031 --> 00:34:54,130
I think we should consider
applying for a Section 71 for him.
547
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:55,994
Immunity from prosecution?
548
00:34:56,114 --> 00:34:58,478
Yeah, I think this kid'd
be more valuable to us
549
00:34:58,515 --> 00:35:00,188
as a witness rather than a suspect.
550
00:35:01,063 --> 00:35:03,998
There's a long way to go before we
can make that decision, I get that
551
00:35:04,012 --> 00:35:05,581
but, you know, he is co-operating.
552
00:35:05,831 --> 00:35:08,561
The only thing he's holding
back on is the full ID of Mercer
553
00:35:08,681 --> 00:35:10,544
and that's only because he's frightened.
554
00:35:12,381 --> 00:35:14,204
Helen, what's the CPS view?
555
00:35:14,970 --> 00:35:16,921
I think we have to be very careful.
556
00:35:16,985 --> 00:35:18,853
I actually can't remember
off the top of my head
557
00:35:18,876 --> 00:35:21,651
the last time a Section 71
was offered in this country.
558
00:35:21,697 --> 00:35:24,039
- I don't think it's been offered to a minor.
- No.
559
00:35:24,062 --> 00:35:25,435
How would it look in court?
560
00:35:25,555 --> 00:35:27,755
He's already admitted to hiding the gun.
561
00:35:27,778 --> 00:35:29,692
I think there's an opportunity here.
562
00:35:30,659 --> 00:35:33,235
The others are little
hard nuts, the lot of them.
563
00:35:33,535 --> 00:35:35,614
They've been playing the
system since they were kids.
564
00:35:36,625 --> 00:35:40,358
Mercer's already been stopped and
searched 80 times by us... 80...
565
00:35:40,850 --> 00:35:42,682
... but I've looked at this Moody kid
566
00:35:43,485 --> 00:35:45,869
and in my opinion, he
comes from a decent family.
567
00:35:46,457 --> 00:35:48,278
You know, he knows right from wrong.
568
00:35:49,406 --> 00:35:51,192
He's trying to reach out to us.
569
00:35:52,090 --> 00:35:53,630
I think he needs our help.
570
00:35:53,845 --> 00:35:55,603
A lot would depend on
what the background checks
571
00:35:55,608 --> 00:35:57,313
- on him threw up.
- Exactly.
572
00:35:58,653 --> 00:36:01,843
I'd go as far as to say that if
we can link Mercer to the gun,
573
00:36:02,238 --> 00:36:04,095
we'll be in a position to charge.
574
00:36:06,483 --> 00:36:08,019
What's gonna happen?
575
00:36:08,621 --> 00:36:09,724
I don't know.
576
00:36:10,771 --> 00:36:13,838
If I tell them it was him,
everyone'll call me a grass.
577
00:36:15,015 --> 00:36:16,870
What did they say about the gun?
578
00:36:18,889 --> 00:36:21,706
The solicitor said I could
get five years for it.
579
00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:24,928
I go to prison
580
00:36:25,489 --> 00:36:28,674
and Sean's on the outside
laughing his fucking head off.
581
00:36:37,303 --> 00:36:38,844
Please help me.
582
00:36:39,614 --> 00:36:42,317
Just help me, please.
583
00:36:42,609 --> 00:36:44,646
Please help me.
584
00:36:45,125 --> 00:36:48,046
- What am I supposed to do? Lie?
- Yes.
585
00:36:48,278 --> 00:36:50,278
Just say they weren't here, Mum.
586
00:36:51,145 --> 00:36:53,948
Jordan, that's putting me
in a very difficult position
587
00:36:54,025 --> 00:36:55,925
and Nan and Grandad.
588
00:36:55,953 --> 00:36:57,593
But if you don't,
589
00:36:57,890 --> 00:37:00,451
they'll fucking kill me, Mum, they will.
590
00:37:00,465 --> 00:37:02,771
- Come on, Jord, calm down.
- They'll kill me, Mum.
591
00:37:03,158 --> 00:37:04,849
Please, Mum.
592
00:37:05,145 --> 00:37:07,766
Please.
593
00:37:08,691 --> 00:37:10,779
- Come on, Jord, you're all right.
- Please, Mum.
594
00:37:10,802 --> 00:37:12,803
Just say they weren't here, Mum.
595
00:37:13,076 --> 00:37:14,798
You're all right, Jord.
596
00:37:14,826 --> 00:37:17,575
What are you gonna do?
What are you gonna say?
597
00:37:17,752 --> 00:37:19,899
Everything's gonna be
all right, I promise.
598
00:37:21,211 --> 00:37:23,318
Help me, Mum.
599
00:37:39,803 --> 00:37:41,079
Hello, Sean?
600
00:37:41,517 --> 00:37:42,829
All right, La.
601
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,375
Enjoy your chips?
602
00:37:45,332 --> 00:37:46,773
Er, yeah.
603
00:37:47,931 --> 00:37:49,535
What did your cousin have to say?
604
00:37:49,585 --> 00:37:51,454
You got pulled by the bizzies?
605
00:37:53,296 --> 00:37:54,112
Yeah.
606
00:37:54,162 --> 00:37:56,491
I'm really sorry for
getting you involved, Kev,
607
00:37:56,527 --> 00:37:59,175
- and your Ma and your family.
- OK.
608
00:38:00,018 --> 00:38:02,497
Did you give them my name
when they questioned you?
609
00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:06,598
- No.
- Good lad.
610
00:38:41,815 --> 00:38:43,277
I didn't think you were coming.
611
00:38:43,634 --> 00:38:46,434
Sorry, it's just been one
of them days chasing my tail.
612
00:38:49,394 --> 00:38:50,992
Are you still OK to do this?
613
00:38:51,557 --> 00:38:52,720
Yeah.
614
00:38:55,026 --> 00:38:57,209
Just to be clear, I'm not
formally questioning you.
615
00:38:57,329 --> 00:38:58,695
You're not a suspect, Mrs Olssen.
616
00:38:58,718 --> 00:39:01,074
I'm simply taking a statement
from you as a witness.
617
00:39:01,384 --> 00:39:03,194
So I want you to just
618
00:39:03,314 --> 00:39:05,400
tell me what you remember
from that night...
619
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,521
... and I'll compile
that into a statement.
620
00:39:09,641 --> 00:39:10,994
You can then read it back.
621
00:39:11,034 --> 00:39:13,034
Once you're happy with
it, you can sign it.
622
00:39:13,458 --> 00:39:15,474
- Is that understood?
- Yeah.
623
00:39:15,878 --> 00:39:17,506
OK, so,
624
00:39:17,739 --> 00:39:20,656
the evening of 22nd...
625
00:39:21,121 --> 00:39:24,354
England were playing a football
match against Germany that night.
626
00:39:24,474 --> 00:39:26,194
Yeah, I remember.
627
00:39:26,234 --> 00:39:28,317
Did you have any visitors
to the house that night?
628
00:39:35,234 --> 00:39:36,439
- Mrs Olssen?
- Yeah.
629
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,414
Yes?
630
00:39:37,902 --> 00:39:39,034
Yeah.
631
00:39:41,107 --> 00:39:42,251
Yeah?
632
00:39:42,976 --> 00:39:45,274
Yes, we did have visitors.
633
00:39:45,934 --> 00:39:47,874
Just to be clear, I'm
talking about the evening.
634
00:39:48,399 --> 00:39:51,037
I know your son mentioned
a caller earlier in the day.
635
00:39:51,753 --> 00:39:53,699
My son was mistaken about that.
636
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,820
It's his medication. When he
doesn't take it, he gets confused.
637
00:39:57,834 --> 00:39:59,771
So you had visitors in the evening?
638
00:40:00,682 --> 00:40:02,754
- Yeah.
- And who was that?
639
00:40:07,751 --> 00:40:09,242
Sean Mercer.
640
00:40:09,625 --> 00:40:11,138
James Yates.
641
00:40:12,136 --> 00:40:13,366
Nathan Quinn.
642
00:40:19,346 --> 00:40:20,800
What time did they get here?
643
00:40:21,849 --> 00:40:25,002
I got in the bath
around twenty-past seven,
644
00:40:25,180 --> 00:40:26,834
twenty-five-past.
645
00:40:28,544 --> 00:40:32,487
And ten minutes after, I heard
my mam shouting up to our Jordan,
646
00:40:32,646 --> 00:40:33,914
"Here's Mercer."
647
00:40:34,929 --> 00:40:38,325
And then, erm, then I heard
someone coming up the stairs
648
00:40:38,744 --> 00:40:40,266
and go into our Jordan's room.
649
00:40:40,274 --> 00:40:41,874
When did the other two arrive?
650
00:40:42,463 --> 00:40:44,889
About 20 minutes later.
651
00:40:45,126 --> 00:40:47,551
I was out the bath,
drying my hair by then
652
00:40:47,671 --> 00:40:51,133
and er, I saw them coming up the path.
653
00:40:54,434 --> 00:40:56,265
My mam says another lad turned up
654
00:40:56,293 --> 00:40:58,038
who she hadn't seen before.
655
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:00,434
He just went straight
upstairs and back down again.
656
00:41:01,023 --> 00:41:02,272
Was he carrying anything?
657
00:41:02,392 --> 00:41:04,710
I dunno. I didn't see him myself.
658
00:41:04,783 --> 00:41:06,714
When did Mercer and the others leave?
659
00:41:08,114 --> 00:41:12,368
Erm, about quarter-past-eight.
660
00:41:13,161 --> 00:41:15,813
They all left, except for Jordan.
661
00:41:17,641 --> 00:41:20,618
I saw them going up the
path to a people carrier.
662
00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:22,510
That's Mercer, Yates and Quinn?
663
00:41:23,514 --> 00:41:24,689
Yeah.
664
00:41:29,434 --> 00:41:31,271
Was the people carrier a taxi?
665
00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:35,254
I thought I heard one of
them say it was Melvyn's car?
666
00:41:35,267 --> 00:41:37,400
- Melvyn's?
- Yeah.
667
00:41:38,152 --> 00:41:40,992
And it was sort of khaki-coloured.
668
00:41:41,977 --> 00:41:43,672
There was two fellas in it.
669
00:41:44,128 --> 00:41:46,362
The driver and another fella.
670
00:41:46,759 --> 00:41:48,282
They all got in it
671
00:41:48,551 --> 00:41:49,804
and drove off.
672
00:41:58,162 --> 00:42:00,164
I know this is going
to be bad for us, but
673
00:42:01,349 --> 00:42:05,174
I saw her on the telly, that woman.
674
00:42:06,322 --> 00:42:08,155
I feel for her so much.
675
00:42:16,565 --> 00:42:19,162
- I'm sorry.
- No, it's OK. It's OK.
676
00:42:19,377 --> 00:42:21,446
But it's suicide.
677
00:42:27,466 --> 00:42:28,634
Thank you.
678
00:43:44,394 --> 00:43:45,440
- Boss?
- Yeah.
679
00:43:45,449 --> 00:43:47,071
The name Melvyn's come up again.
680
00:43:47,386 --> 00:43:48,834
It's mentioned in the Yates probe.
681
00:43:48,874 --> 00:43:51,628
Mercer was taken to "Melvyn's place",
682
00:43:51,748 --> 00:43:53,689
- on the night of the murder.
- Yeah?
683
00:43:53,744 --> 00:43:57,634
- And who's Melvyn?
- We don't know yet, but it's a starter for ten.
684
00:43:57,645 --> 00:44:00,759
'Ey, you! You little shit. That's
my catchphrase, that. Get your own.
685
00:44:00,843 --> 00:44:02,499
Hey, that's my tea. You get your own.
686
00:44:04,274 --> 00:44:06,254
Nice one, lad. Well done.
687
00:44:06,896 --> 00:44:08,707
Mark, have you heard?
688
00:44:09,382 --> 00:44:10,629
Olssen's ma gave a statement.
689
00:44:10,651 --> 00:44:13,393
Yeah, putting Yates and Mercer at
her house just after the murder.
690
00:44:13,444 --> 00:44:14,768
What is it, then?
691
00:44:15,063 --> 00:44:17,370
Just as fast as I'm
lowering my blood pressure,
692
00:44:17,385 --> 00:44:19,270
you're bringing it back
up again. What is it?
693
00:44:19,697 --> 00:44:20,772
It's a report
694
00:44:21,666 --> 00:44:24,371
from Richard Townsmead, the
ballistics fella, yeah? Yeah?
695
00:44:25,683 --> 00:44:26,799
In his opinion,
696
00:44:27,856 --> 00:44:30,774
the revolver found in Moody's loft,
697
00:44:31,809 --> 00:44:33,651
it can't have caused the
wounds to Rhys's body.
698
00:44:33,669 --> 00:44:35,033
What? No, that can't be right.
699
00:44:35,055 --> 00:44:37,413
They're saying the
entry wound is too small.
700
00:44:38,114 --> 00:44:40,968
Johnson reckons it was a .357.
701
00:44:41,446 --> 00:44:44,129
Townsmead says the revolver was a .455.
702
00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:46,877
- No, Mark, that can't be... It can't...
- I know.
703
00:44:46,914 --> 00:44:48,652
- No, that can't be right. It can't be.
- I know.
704
00:44:48,674 --> 00:44:50,308
That has to be the murder weapon.
705
00:44:52,606 --> 00:44:54,279
- It has to be.
- Ned,
706
00:44:55,286 --> 00:44:57,276
I know, and I'm sorry.
707
00:45:01,918 --> 00:45:04,055
Well, we're all in the
shit, then, aren't we?
708
00:45:13,634 --> 00:45:17,003
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