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The
following program
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contains allegations
of sexual abuse
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that some viewers
may find disturbing.
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- Harvey
Weinstein sat atop Hollywood
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as one of the most
successful and respected
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movie producers in history.
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But beneath the money and
the fame was a monster,
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hiding a dark and
disturbing secret.
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- So hot, that
place, and so sexy.
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You just get crazy
thoughts there.
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- The truth cannot
be hidden away forever,
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and in Hollywood,
when the movies end
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and the credits roll,
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the reality can be
even more terrifying
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than you could ever imagine.
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- She's good, really good,
she's good, she's wonderful.
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- She's
got real charisma
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and a presence about her.
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- She does, she certainly does.
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- People believe in you,
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and it's not been fair
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that you've used the power,
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the gift that you
have, you've turned
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it into such a
corruption to take
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advantage of other people.
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- I had created a
safeguard of how
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I could avoid those situations,
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and I never was in a hotel
room with him alone again.
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- You're meeting with a very
powerful guy in Hollywood
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that makes a lot of
actress's careers happen,
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so when he said to
go to the Peninsula,
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I just thought,
that's a bar, so fine.
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So we met at the bar there,
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and we talked for a few minutes,
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and then he didn't
really ask me,
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he just said, "We're going
upstairs to my room."
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And I didn't really
know how to take that.
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I'm like, "What
do you, I'm just?"
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I didn't know how to say no to
someone like him at the time,
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which I regret.
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- The next thing I knew,
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he had unzipped his fly
and pulled out his penis.
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My heart started pounding.
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My mind started racing.
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How do I deal with this?
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How do I get out of this?
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Am I going to get out of this?
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How is this happening?
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He then grabbed my hand
and pulled me towards him,
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and forced my hand onto his
penis and held it there.
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He said, "Name anyone, any
actress you can think of
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"and this is how they made it."
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I have told parts of this story
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to only a very few
people over the years.
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I felt so powerless
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because he is, after
all, very powerful,
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and very well known
and very successful.
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I didn't think anyone
would believe me.
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I was nobody.
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Why would they?
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- New York City 1979.
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Two brothers, having
successfully built
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a concert promotion business,
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decide to gamble on a new
business venture together.
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They set up a small,
independent film distribution
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company called Miramax.
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- Harvey thinks that he
was in an alternate reality
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actually, he thinks
he's gonna wake up
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and this is not the real thing.
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- In just
a few short years,
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Miramax would grow to
become one of the biggest
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players in the
entertainment industry,
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and Harvey and Bob Weinstein
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would become household names.
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- Harvey Weinstein
has been a mogul
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in the entertainment
industry for decades
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and it really started
in independent film,
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and I think that's
where a lot of people
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got to know him
and his brother Bob
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from Miramax, the film company,
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and especially in the 90s
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when independent film was
just absolutely everything,
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they started to get more
and more power in Hollywood.
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Their company was
eventually bought by Disney,
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and of course that
brought them more money,
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more power, and I
think that allure,
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having a film made by
Miramax, made by Disney,
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was a really big deal.
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- Harvey Weinstein was someone.
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He was this kid from
Queens, New York,
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him and his brother.
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They started off as
concert promoters.
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Harvey always had
his plan in place.
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He wanted to be a
huge Hollywood player,
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and he became that.
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- Miramax became
especially known
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for their Oscar
pushes for films.
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They were the studio
that if you wanted
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to hold up that gold statue,
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at the end of the season
that you should go to,
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so they had countless
hits including
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Pulp Fiction,
Shakespeare in Love,
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and through those they allowed
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their actors and actresses
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to say, "Thank you"
to the Academy.
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- I'm one of those kids
from Brooklyn and Queens
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who used to watch the Oscars
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and root and cheer
and had dreams,
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and I just wanted
to dedicate this
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as everybody does, mine, anyhow,
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to all those kids out there,
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and tell 'em to break the rules.
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- Miramax
spearheaded some of the most
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successful films of their time.
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Pulp Fiction in 1994,
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Good Will Hunting in 1997,
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and Shakespeare in Love in 1998.
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Their might in the
industry was evidential,
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recognized in their countless
Oscars and accolades.
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- Harvey was never liked.
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People feared him.
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People wanted to work with him,
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people wanted him to
put them on screen,
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to get them an Oscar,
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and he literally bought
Oscars for everybody.
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No one to this day can explain
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how Shakespeare in Love
beat Saving Private Ryan
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for Academy Award
for Best Picture.
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The reason?
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Harvey Weinstein.
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And the same guy who
is powerful enough
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to beat Steven Spielberg
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as best picture
was powerful enough
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to shut up any actress,
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any starlet who complained about
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the fact that he wanted
to get naked with her.
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- To be cast in a Miramax movie
or Weinstein Company movie,
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that's huge, that's big,
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especially for someone
who's just starting out.
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Harvey was seen as
someone who championed
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these smaller films,
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more artistic.
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He was an actor's producer,
a director's producer
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for more refined tastes,
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so to be cast in
a Miramax movie,
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to know that Harvey
was behind you,
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it was a great badge
of honor in this town.
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To know that Harvey
Weinstein was pushing you
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for an award for an Oscar.
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You couldn't have asked
for a better strategist.
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- In
2005, Harvey and Bob
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left Miramax and formed
their own company,
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The Weinstein Company.
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- Well, Miramax, unfortunately,
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we don't have the name,
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but I think with directors
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like Quentin Tarantino,
Robert Rodriguez,
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Anthony Minghella, John
Madden, Marty Scorsese,
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all coming with the new company,
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it's sort of the
ongoing business
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without Mom and Dad's name.
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We still own the name Dimension,
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and if anybody can come
up with a better name
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than The Weinstein
Company, we're all ears.
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- Nothing's better than
the Weinstein brothers,
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so the name is great.
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- I got to thinking about
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what a great producer he is
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and what it takes
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to be such a great producer.
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'Cause I've made so many movies
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and I've worked with
so many different
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kind of producers.
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And really, to be a great
producer takes such heart.
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To really put such love and care
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and guts and balls
into really making
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a movie come together.
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It takes so much.
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You have to fight tooth and nail
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to make a movie
really come together
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in the way that Harvey's
made so many great movies
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over all these years,
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and to have him stand
up for his artists
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and for the scripts,
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and for making those
movies come together.
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Harvey is an unbelievably
astonishing killer producer
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and his love for that
and for his people
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is just legendary,
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and I just want you to know
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Miriam, your mom, who I know
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has raised a really good son
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and I'm proud of you Harvey.
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And I mean that.
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So thank you.
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- Winning the best picture
helps make the night go great,
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and best actor didn't hurt
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and best director
didn't hurt that
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and screenplay
wasn't bad either,
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so it was pretty great.
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- At this
point in your career,
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do these things
still surprise you?
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Are you--
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- I loved it, it's fun.
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Come on, I've been loving
this since you're a kid.
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It's like the world
series for guys, okay?
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- Harvey
seemed unstoppable,
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but on October fifth, 2017,
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his empire would
come crashing down.
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The New York Times
published a comprehensive
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investigation, exposing
a horrific string
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of sexual, predatory behavior
and abuse allegations
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by the most powerful man in
Hollywood, Harvey Weinstein.
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The allegations
span three decades
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and disclosed instances
of indecent exposure,
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inappropriate touching,
non-consensual advances
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and rape.
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- What happened with Harvey,
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we all knew he was a bully,
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and bully's putting it lightly.
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Bully sort of
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encompasses everything now,
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from simple name calling
to physical attacks,
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but he was mean.
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He was degrading.
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He had no problem
calling someone stupid,
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dumb, throwing things at
people, flipping tables.
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Everyone knew what he was.
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This is again, this
is not a surprise.
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We all knew what
a monster he was.
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- In response to
the New York Times article,
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Mr. Weinstein issued
the following statement.
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I appreciate the way I've
behaved with colleagues
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in the past has
caused a lot of pain,
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and I sincerely
apologize for it.
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Though I'm trying to do better,
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I know I have a long way to go.
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- When The New York
Times broke the story,
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it wasn't the first time
a news outlet had tried.
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New York Magazine,
New York Times,
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both had tried in the
past to do a piece
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about Harvey Weinstein
and all the rumors,
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both times they were scuppered
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by Harvey's team of legal eagles
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who threatened and
called up and screamed
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and pulled out all
these reasons why
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they were gonna sue if
the stories went public.
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When The New York Times
actually published the piece,
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I believe that it was
their thorough reporting
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and also the willingness
of a respectable actress
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such as Ashley Judd
to go on the record
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about what had happened to her,
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which gave it believability
and credibility.
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- Actress Ashley Judd
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was one of the first
women to publicly
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recount her ordeal.
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She stated that over
two decades ago,
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she met Mr. Weinstein
in his suite
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at the Peninsula
Beverly Hills hotel
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for what she thought would
be a breakfast meeting.
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Once she arrived, Harvey
allegedly pestered her
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repeatedly for a massage
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and then attempted to
move her into the bathroom
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so that she could
watch him shower.
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Judd immediately told her
agent, Michelle Bohan,
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but was helpless to
take any further action.
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- Ashley Judd's sit
down with Diane Sawyer
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is incredibly powerful.
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In great part because she is
a truly evolved human being.
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She talks about her
belief in a loving God,
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and at the very end she says,
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"I believe that Harvey
Weinstein deserves forgiveness.
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"He deserves a chance,
he deserves to be loved."
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And it was so gracious
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that it just leaves
with your mouth agape,
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at how she could be so polite,
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how she could be so forgiving,
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how she could be so kind
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to a man who is without a
question a complete monster.
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- I wish I could prevent
it for anyone always.
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I don't know that I
would have been believed
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and who was I to tell?
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- I first heard the name
Zelda as Harvey's assistant
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about 10 years ago,
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way before this happened.
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She had signed an NDA but
she was a friend of a friend
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and I had heard
through that friend
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that some very unpalatable
things had happened
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during her time at Miramax,
which is why she left.
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She was not happy,
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and she was disturbed
by a lot of it,
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and then, of course,
you fast forward
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to the scandal breaking
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and Zelda, very bravely,
decided to come forward
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against the terms of her
NDA and speak her truth,
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and I think what I
found most insightful
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about what Zelda had to say
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was to try and explain
how this happened.
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Everybody can read
about this and think,
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"Well, why did they
go in his hotel room?
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"And why did they
allow themselves
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"to get in this position?"
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And you can judge and criticize,
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but what Zelda
explained was look,
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Harvey regularly did
meetings in his hotel room.
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He had a suite, he
always had a suite,
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so there was a living room,
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so male and female
industry players
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went up to his room and
he took meetings there.
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Male directors, male agents,
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they sat in the suite
and they took meetings,
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so for Ashley Judd to
go up to his hotel suite
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was not her doing anything
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that other people and men
hadn't done previously.
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Harvey took meetings
in his room.
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Zelda also went on to explain
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that the position he was in,
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how much power he had,
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how attractive that was.
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People wanted his attention.
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People wanted to take
meetings with him.
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People wanted to be around him.
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He used, abused, and
manipulated this power,
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but it's undeniable
that he had that power.
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The reason he was
able to get away
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with so much of this is because
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people were afraid
to turn him down.
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Harvey wants to see
you in his hotel suite,
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of course, you're thinking,
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"Maybe I can get a job.
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"Maybe he'll cast me
in his next movie."
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It was a very difficult
decision to make
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and a lot of actresses
who are now speaking out
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saying that they
went up to his room
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and he was naked, he
was in his bathrobe,
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he asked for a naked massage.
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He wanted to watch him shower.
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Were horrified,
horrified and shocked,
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but the hotel room thing,
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Zelda very clearly explains
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was something that
everybody did.
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It wasn't just women,
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but the women of
course were the ones
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who were preyed upon.
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- Actress
Rose McGowan accused
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Harvey Weinstein of raping her
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at the 1997 Sundance
Film Festival.
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She also claimed
that Amazon Studios
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knew about the incident
and yet neglected
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to act accordingly.
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- In 1997, Rose McGowan
attended the Sundance
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Film Festival along
with Ben Affleck
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and Matt Damon and
Harvey Weinstein.
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There was an incident
that happened
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in the hotel suite
on the top floor
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where Harvey Weinstein,
according to Rose, raped her.
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This is something that
Rose is talking about
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in her book, Brave,
where she details
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00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:57,456
her experience at the hands
of the Hollywood monster.
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What's further disturbing
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is that Rose came
down the next day
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and told, according
to her, Ben Affleck
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and Matt Damon, what
Harvey had done to her,
363
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and the reaction was to,
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"Oh, I told him to
stop doing that."
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It wasn't, "Call the police.
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"What can we do to help?
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"Let's call a lawyer.
368
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"Let's prosecute him."
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It was, "I told him
to stop doing that."
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It was shrugged off,
it was minimized,
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it was brushed off,
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and as Rose says now
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that experience
in that hotel room
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has been strapped to
her back for 20 years.
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- McGowan
has previously said
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she was not supported
by her management
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at the time of the
alleged attack.
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00:18:58,204 --> 00:19:01,370
Jill Messick represented
McGowan in 1997
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when the actress alleged she
was raped by Harvey Weinstein.
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Since the claims
have come forward,
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Jill Messick tragically
took her own life.
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Messick's family confirmed
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that she was used
as collateral damage
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in the Weinstein case.
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This came after
Weinstein's lawyer
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published an email from Messick
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to help deny McGowan's claims,
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describing the
incident as consensual.
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- Everybody knew about
Harvey Weinstein.
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Everybody knew
about his behavior,
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yet nobody did anything.
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00:19:37,242 --> 00:19:39,121
That made it almost impossible
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for anybody to come forward
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and make any accusations,
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so, for instance,
a video surfaced
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of Courtney Love saying
how to get on in Hollywood
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and what to do and what
to avoid in Hollywood,
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and she said, "If you get asked
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"to go into a private
party by Harvey Weinstein
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"at the Four Seasons
hotel, decline it."
401
00:19:58,778 --> 00:20:00,031
- Do
you have any advice
402
00:20:00,031 --> 00:20:01,909
for a young girl
moving to Hollywood?
403
00:20:05,285 --> 00:20:07,789
- I'll get libeled if I said it.
404
00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:09,355
If Harvey Weinstein invites you
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to a private party at the
Four Seasons, don't go.
406
00:20:14,748 --> 00:20:16,662
- When
Model Amber Battilana
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00:20:16,662 --> 00:20:18,575
came forward with her story,
408
00:20:18,575 --> 00:20:20,384
she shared an audio recording
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00:20:20,384 --> 00:20:22,994
she had made from an
encounter with Harvey,
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00:20:22,994 --> 00:20:25,673
confronting him after
being harassed by him,
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just the day before.
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- I'm telling
you right now--
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00:20:29,744 --> 00:20:30,718
- What do
we have to do here?
414
00:20:30,718 --> 00:20:31,588
- Nothing.
415
00:20:31,588 --> 00:20:32,875
I'm gonna take a shower.
416
00:20:32,875 --> 00:20:34,580
You sit there and
have a drink, water.
417
00:20:34,580 --> 00:20:35,867
- I don't drink.
418
00:20:35,867 --> 00:20:36,842
- Then have
a glass of water.
419
00:20:36,842 --> 00:20:38,129
- Can I stay on the bar?
420
00:20:38,129 --> 00:20:38,825
- No, you
must come here now.
421
00:20:38,825 --> 00:20:39,799
- No.
422
00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:40,843
- Look, please come.
423
00:20:40,843 --> 00:20:42,338
- No, I don't want to.
424
00:20:42,338 --> 00:20:43,591
- I'm not doing
anything with you, I promise.
425
00:20:43,591 --> 00:20:44,600
- I know.
- Now you're embarrassing me.
426
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,888
- I'm sorry.
- No, come in.
427
00:20:45,888 --> 00:20:48,845
- Yesterday
was aggressive for me.
428
00:20:48,845 --> 00:20:50,584
I need to know a person before--
429
00:20:50,584 --> 00:20:52,499
- I won't do a thing.
430
00:20:55,839 --> 00:20:58,308
- One of the most
astonishing stories we heard
431
00:20:58,308 --> 00:21:00,605
was Gwyneth Paltrow
coming forward
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00:21:00,605 --> 00:21:03,318
and saying she too
was sexually harassed
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00:21:03,318 --> 00:21:06,694
by Harvey Weinstein
early in her career,
434
00:21:06,694 --> 00:21:09,721
but then, we were
even more astonished
435
00:21:09,721 --> 00:21:12,712
that we found out
that Brad Pitt,
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00:21:12,712 --> 00:21:14,000
who she was with at the time,
437
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,462
confronted Harvey,
438
00:21:16,714 --> 00:21:19,602
and said, "Don't ever
do this to her again."
439
00:21:19,602 --> 00:21:22,941
He literally poked
him in the chest.
440
00:21:22,941 --> 00:21:25,238
To think of that experience,
441
00:21:25,238 --> 00:21:29,621
while imaging Brad Pitt
confronting Harvey Weinstein.
442
00:21:29,621 --> 00:21:31,223
Everyone was shocked.
443
00:21:31,223 --> 00:21:34,527
Not only did Brad
Pitt confront a man
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00:21:34,527 --> 00:21:36,893
who sexually harassed
Gwyneth Paltrow ,
445
00:21:36,893 --> 00:21:40,686
but that man was at the
height of his power.
446
00:21:40,686 --> 00:21:45,209
This way the heyday of Miramax,
447
00:21:45,209 --> 00:21:46,844
so for Brad to do that,
448
00:21:46,844 --> 00:21:48,967
I imagine he was
probably nervous, too.
449
00:21:48,967 --> 00:21:51,298
He was probably nervous
about his career also
450
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,961
but it's an incredible story.
451
00:21:57,178 --> 00:22:00,205
- I would like to
thank Harvey Weinstein
452
00:22:00,205 --> 00:22:01,910
and everybody at Miramax films
453
00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:04,311
for their undying support of me.
454
00:22:05,389 --> 00:22:06,711
- Gwyneth Paltrow says
455
00:22:06,711 --> 00:22:08,346
that when she was
only 22 years old
456
00:22:08,346 --> 00:22:10,678
that Weinstein invited
her to a hotel room
457
00:22:10,678 --> 00:22:12,974
for a meeting and
then propositioned
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00:22:12,974 --> 00:22:14,504
and sexually harassed her.
459
00:22:14,504 --> 00:22:16,418
Paltrow's allegations
have become
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00:22:16,418 --> 00:22:19,793
some of the most wide
spread in Hollywood,
461
00:22:19,793 --> 00:22:22,646
where the women have
said that Weinstein
462
00:22:22,646 --> 00:22:24,247
invited them to a hotel room
463
00:22:24,247 --> 00:22:25,708
under the guise of a meeting
464
00:22:25,708 --> 00:22:28,108
and then asked them
to give him a massage
465
00:22:28,108 --> 00:22:30,230
or asked to be able
to massage them.
466
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:31,935
That seemed to be his tactic.
467
00:22:33,884 --> 00:22:36,110
- I had seen Harvey
Weinstein on a host,
468
00:22:36,110 --> 00:22:37,363
a myriad of red carpets,
469
00:22:37,363 --> 00:22:39,346
but I first actually
spoke to him
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00:22:39,346 --> 00:22:42,409
at the launch of Top
Magazine in 1999.
471
00:22:42,409 --> 00:22:43,730
It was a big party,
472
00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:46,097
and they had taken
all the top press
473
00:22:46,097 --> 00:22:47,592
out to Ellis Island
474
00:22:47,592 --> 00:22:49,888
where he arrived for the launch
475
00:22:49,888 --> 00:22:51,246
of his new magazine.
476
00:22:51,246 --> 00:22:54,413
Talk Magazine was going
to be a way for him,
477
00:22:54,413 --> 00:22:56,813
by the way, to control
more journalists
478
00:22:56,813 --> 00:22:58,969
because it was going to option
479
00:22:58,969 --> 00:23:01,788
these great articles,
Vanity Fair style
480
00:23:01,788 --> 00:23:03,980
into movies and
television programs,
481
00:23:03,980 --> 00:23:06,172
and it was a way
for him to expand
482
00:23:06,172 --> 00:23:08,329
his media empire into print
483
00:23:08,329 --> 00:23:11,009
and a way for him
to have more power
484
00:23:11,009 --> 00:23:12,296
than he already did.
485
00:23:12,296 --> 00:23:14,279
I remember him well.
486
00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:16,122
He was lord of the night
487
00:23:16,122 --> 00:23:20,019
and he was very
large, heavyset man,
488
00:23:20,019 --> 00:23:23,325
and he walked around like
he was King Henry the Eighth
489
00:23:23,325 --> 00:23:24,925
reincarnated.
490
00:23:24,925 --> 00:23:28,022
It was his kingdom, we were
just there at his pleasure.
491
00:23:28,022 --> 00:23:33,241
He was the man of the hour
and the week and the month.
492
00:23:34,145 --> 00:23:35,641
He was incredibly powerful,
493
00:23:35,641 --> 00:23:38,251
particularly in New York,
where I worked as a journalist.
494
00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:42,287
He was maybe the most
powerful man in media,
495
00:23:42,287 --> 00:23:46,184
certainly in our city,
in Manhattan for sure,
496
00:23:46,184 --> 00:23:48,967
and his influence, his reach,
497
00:23:48,967 --> 00:23:52,551
his control, his
power was incredible.
498
00:23:52,551 --> 00:23:54,812
I remember Gwyneth
Paltrow was on the cover
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00:23:54,812 --> 00:23:56,935
of the very first issue of Talk
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00:23:56,935 --> 00:24:00,622
and inside, she did
this very bizarre S an M
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00:24:00,622 --> 00:24:02,571
type of photo shoot,
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00:24:02,571 --> 00:24:05,980
really not her
style and pictures
503
00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:09,111
were very, very bizarre.
504
00:24:09,111 --> 00:24:11,721
Gwyneth said later she
had done the S and M shoot
505
00:24:11,721 --> 00:24:13,356
as a favor to Harvey,
506
00:24:13,356 --> 00:24:14,922
who had asked her to do it,
507
00:24:14,922 --> 00:24:17,636
and she felt it was
a bit exploitative,
508
00:24:17,636 --> 00:24:20,211
but she did it for him.
509
00:24:20,211 --> 00:24:24,108
Again, we started
to see the dynamic
510
00:24:24,108 --> 00:24:26,787
that he would set
up with actresses
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00:24:26,787 --> 00:24:29,918
where he would live
out his own fantasies
512
00:24:29,918 --> 00:24:34,336
through persuasion and
manipulation and negotiation
513
00:24:34,336 --> 00:24:35,590
with them,
514
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:37,572
but Harvey Weinstein
used to show up
515
00:24:37,572 --> 00:24:40,633
at all the red carpet
events, the Oscars,
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00:24:40,633 --> 00:24:42,339
that I would go to,
517
00:24:42,339 --> 00:24:43,556
walk the red carpet,
518
00:24:43,556 --> 00:24:45,296
and give some sound bytes.
519
00:24:45,296 --> 00:24:47,350
I met him several
times over the years,
520
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:49,263
he was always bombastic,
521
00:24:49,263 --> 00:24:50,828
he was always opinionated,
522
00:24:50,828 --> 00:24:53,124
he was always arrogant.
523
00:24:54,552 --> 00:24:55,630
- To learn
524
00:24:57,509 --> 00:25:01,023
that Angelina Jolie who
also Brad Pitt was with,
525
00:25:01,023 --> 00:25:02,728
early in her career,
526
00:25:02,728 --> 00:25:05,371
she came forward and said
that she was sexually harassed
527
00:25:05,371 --> 00:25:07,981
by Harvey and then Angelina said
528
00:25:07,981 --> 00:25:10,347
"From that day on,
I said I will never
529
00:25:10,347 --> 00:25:11,878
"make a movie with that man."
530
00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:12,852
And she didn't.
531
00:25:14,835 --> 00:25:16,436
- I had a
bad experience with
532
00:25:16,436 --> 00:25:18,419
Harvey Weinstein in my youth
533
00:25:18,419 --> 00:25:21,655
and as a result, chose
never to work again
534
00:25:21,655 --> 00:25:24,856
and warn others when they did.
535
00:25:24,856 --> 00:25:27,987
This behavior towards
women in any field,
536
00:25:27,987 --> 00:25:31,084
any country, is unacceptable.
537
00:25:46,532 --> 00:25:49,106
- He called me into his office
538
00:25:49,106 --> 00:25:50,776
and told me to sit on the couch.
539
00:25:51,924 --> 00:25:53,839
He then sat down next to me
540
00:25:55,368 --> 00:25:59,475
and proceeded to tell me how
things worked in Hollywood.
541
00:25:59,475 --> 00:26:02,502
He asked me if I was good.
542
00:26:02,502 --> 00:26:05,563
I started to tell
him about my training
543
00:26:05,563 --> 00:26:07,442
and my acting experience,
544
00:26:07,442 --> 00:26:11,408
and he said, "No, I need
to know if you're good."
545
00:26:11,408 --> 00:26:13,565
He said that if he
was going to introduce
546
00:26:13,565 --> 00:26:17,184
me around town to
directors and producers,
547
00:26:17,184 --> 00:26:20,072
he needed to know
if I was any good.
548
00:26:20,072 --> 00:26:25,256
He had this sly, sleazy
smile on his face,
549
00:26:25,256 --> 00:26:27,691
and the fact that he
was sitting so close
550
00:26:27,691 --> 00:26:28,978
to me on this couch,
551
00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:33,571
I started to get a sick
feeling in my stomach.
552
00:26:35,694 --> 00:26:37,015
The next thing I knew,
553
00:26:38,268 --> 00:26:40,704
he had unzipped his fly
554
00:26:40,704 --> 00:26:42,721
and pulled out his penis.
555
00:26:45,923 --> 00:26:47,662
My heart started pounding.
556
00:26:49,472 --> 00:26:51,281
My mind started racing.
557
00:26:52,325 --> 00:26:54,482
How do I deal with this?
558
00:26:54,482 --> 00:26:56,466
How do I get out of this?
559
00:26:56,466 --> 00:26:58,344
Am I going to get out of this.
560
00:26:59,597 --> 00:27:01,371
How is this happening?
561
00:27:01,371 --> 00:27:04,432
He then grabbed my hand
and pulled towards him,
562
00:27:05,615 --> 00:27:07,982
and forced my hand
onto his penis
563
00:27:07,982 --> 00:27:09,130
and held it there.
564
00:27:11,183 --> 00:27:12,921
I was frozen with fear.
565
00:27:14,383 --> 00:27:16,888
Trying to remain calm,
566
00:27:16,888 --> 00:27:18,419
trying not to freak out
567
00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:22,107
because, after all, there was
nobody else in the office.
568
00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:25,760
I pulled my hand away
as casually as possible.
569
00:27:28,752 --> 00:27:33,241
He told me that this was how
things worked in Hollywood,
570
00:27:33,241 --> 00:27:34,598
and that all of the actresses
571
00:27:34,598 --> 00:27:36,302
that had made it
572
00:27:36,302 --> 00:27:37,694
had made it this way.
573
00:27:39,365 --> 00:27:44,270
He said, "Name anyone, any
actress you can think of,
574
00:27:44,270 --> 00:27:45,905
"and this is how they made it."
575
00:27:45,905 --> 00:27:47,331
He spelled it out for me.
576
00:27:48,584 --> 00:27:52,307
He told me that first I
would have sex with him,
577
00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:55,612
and then he would
take me to parties
578
00:27:55,612 --> 00:27:58,292
and show me who I needed
to sleep with after that.
579
00:27:59,510 --> 00:28:04,102
On Monday, following
that Friday nightmare
580
00:28:04,102 --> 00:28:07,407
with Harvey Weinstein,
I resigned from my job.
581
00:28:10,156 --> 00:28:12,870
Not long after
that, I quit acting.
582
00:28:14,191 --> 00:28:16,140
I have told parts of this story
583
00:28:17,358 --> 00:28:20,003
to only a very few
people over the years.
584
00:28:23,621 --> 00:28:25,673
I felt so powerless
585
00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:30,022
because he is, after
all, very powerful
586
00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:36,146
and very well known
and very successful.
587
00:28:39,486 --> 00:28:42,373
I didn't think anyone
would believe me.
588
00:28:43,383 --> 00:28:44,496
I was nobody.
589
00:28:46,271 --> 00:28:47,558
Why would they?
590
00:29:00,570 --> 00:29:02,449
- Harvey Weinstein is hideous.
591
00:29:02,449 --> 00:29:04,016
He's always been hideous.
592
00:29:04,016 --> 00:29:07,007
His first wife, Eve,
was his assistant.
593
00:29:07,007 --> 00:29:10,070
Was an assistant
who he undoubtedly
594
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:13,235
sexually cajoled and harassed
in his position of power
595
00:29:13,235 --> 00:29:15,044
into marrying him.
596
00:29:15,044 --> 00:29:17,097
He used to leave
flowers on her desk.
597
00:29:17,097 --> 00:29:21,272
He seduced her with his
power and his position.
598
00:29:21,272 --> 00:29:23,743
They married, they
have three children.
599
00:29:23,743 --> 00:29:27,430
Eve decided very much to
stay out of the limelight.
600
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:29,622
She raised their three children,
601
00:29:29,622 --> 00:29:32,649
their three
daughters in privacy.
602
00:29:32,649 --> 00:29:34,458
Harvey continued
to work the scene.
603
00:29:34,458 --> 00:29:36,650
He continued to have affairs.
604
00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:38,808
When I first met
Harvey Weinstein,
605
00:29:38,808 --> 00:29:40,339
he was still married to Eve,
606
00:29:40,339 --> 00:29:43,017
but we heard stories
repeatedly again and again
607
00:29:43,017 --> 00:29:46,811
about various actresses he
was having liaisons with.
608
00:29:46,811 --> 00:29:48,167
That's what we thought,
609
00:29:48,167 --> 00:29:49,802
but we knew he was
cheating on his wife
610
00:29:49,802 --> 00:29:51,472
and it was an open secret.
611
00:29:51,472 --> 00:29:54,569
When Harvey and Eve
finally divorced,
612
00:29:54,569 --> 00:29:57,074
it was a shock to
exactly no one.
613
00:29:57,074 --> 00:29:59,056
It had been years since
they'd been together.
614
00:29:59,056 --> 00:30:00,797
It'd been years since
they'd lived together,
615
00:30:00,797 --> 00:30:04,485
and everybody knew
about his womanizing.
616
00:30:04,485 --> 00:30:07,372
When Harvey and
Georgina got married,
617
00:30:07,372 --> 00:30:09,216
it was a surprise.
618
00:30:09,216 --> 00:30:13,322
First of all, Georgina
had her own family money.
619
00:30:13,322 --> 00:30:15,479
She had gone to private
schools in the UK,
620
00:30:15,479 --> 00:30:19,341
she was very posh and she
was starting a fashion label,
621
00:30:19,341 --> 00:30:22,785
Marchesa, seemingly on her own,
622
00:30:22,785 --> 00:30:25,186
and she didn't seem
to need Harvey,
623
00:30:25,186 --> 00:30:26,787
so it was a bit of a surprise
624
00:30:26,787 --> 00:30:28,979
when this young,
stunning, beautiful woman
625
00:30:28,979 --> 00:30:32,493
would actually marry this
hideous, disgusting human being,
626
00:30:32,493 --> 00:30:33,850
but she did.
627
00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:36,668
Now, we come to
find out that Harvey
628
00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:40,703
threatened actresses
all over Hollywood
629
00:30:40,703 --> 00:30:43,139
that if they didn't
wear his wife's gowns
630
00:30:43,139 --> 00:30:44,461
on the red carpet,
631
00:30:44,461 --> 00:30:47,001
he wouldn't put them
in any more movies.
632
00:30:47,001 --> 00:30:48,289
Felicity Hoffman
actually confirmed
633
00:30:48,289 --> 00:30:51,037
that she was ordered
to wear Marchesa
634
00:30:51,037 --> 00:30:53,751
on red carpets during
her Oscar campaign.
635
00:30:53,751 --> 00:30:55,769
Other actresses,
Renee Zellweger,
636
00:30:55,769 --> 00:30:58,413
were pressured and
forced to wear Marchesa.
637
00:30:58,413 --> 00:31:00,361
Harvey used his
position of power
638
00:31:00,361 --> 00:31:01,927
not only to abuse women
639
00:31:01,927 --> 00:31:04,398
but also to force
them to do things
640
00:31:04,398 --> 00:31:07,668
that benefited him and his wife.
641
00:31:07,668 --> 00:31:11,600
Georgina and Harvey went on
to have two children together,
642
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,053
and initially, Georgina
was going to stand by him.
643
00:31:16,053 --> 00:31:18,698
Georgina issued a
statement saying
644
00:31:18,698 --> 00:31:20,089
that he was receiving therapy
645
00:31:20,089 --> 00:31:21,655
and they were gonna work it out,
646
00:31:21,655 --> 00:31:23,778
and then, of course,
as we started to see
647
00:31:23,778 --> 00:31:26,805
the dozens and dozens and
dozens of women coming forward,
648
00:31:26,805 --> 00:31:28,822
including allegations of rape,
649
00:31:28,822 --> 00:31:32,197
she very quietly
changed her mind.
650
00:31:38,042 --> 00:31:39,956
- Georgina
Chapman, Harvey's wife
651
00:31:39,956 --> 00:31:42,496
and fashion designer,
founder of Marchesa
652
00:31:42,496 --> 00:31:45,870
announced in a statement
that she was leaving him.
653
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:48,898
"My heart breaks
for all the women
654
00:31:48,898 --> 00:31:50,498
"who have suffered
tremendous pain
655
00:31:50,498 --> 00:31:53,385
"because of these
unforgivable actions."
656
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:56,621
Further adding,
657
00:31:56,621 --> 00:31:58,813
"I have chosen to
leave my husband.
658
00:31:58,813 --> 00:32:01,980
"Caring for my young
children is my first priority
659
00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:05,284
"and I ask the media for
privacy at this time."
660
00:32:06,469 --> 00:32:08,695
- As soon as the follow
up New York Times
661
00:32:08,695 --> 00:32:10,190
piece came out
where you had people
662
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:12,974
like Gwyneth Paltrow
openly talking
663
00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:15,688
about what had happened
to them with Uncle Harvey,
664
00:32:15,688 --> 00:32:17,671
as she sickeningly called him,
665
00:32:17,671 --> 00:32:20,107
I knew his wife, Georgina,
was gonna leave him.
666
00:32:20,107 --> 00:32:22,264
There was no way
that Harvey's wife
667
00:32:22,264 --> 00:32:24,595
was gonna be able to withstand
668
00:32:24,595 --> 00:32:25,708
all of these allegations
669
00:32:25,708 --> 00:32:27,553
including the ones of rape.
670
00:32:27,553 --> 00:32:30,580
It started out as he
was a little creepy,
671
00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:33,153
he wanted me to watch
him in the shower,
672
00:32:33,153 --> 00:32:34,546
or give him a massage,
673
00:32:34,546 --> 00:32:37,711
and it ended with
rape, sexual assault,
674
00:32:37,711 --> 00:32:41,261
sexual predation
and a systematic
675
00:32:41,261 --> 00:32:45,089
pattern of behavior
in which he abused
676
00:32:45,089 --> 00:32:47,593
his power and abused women.
677
00:32:47,593 --> 00:32:50,272
There's no way that Harvey
Weinstein can weather
678
00:32:50,272 --> 00:32:52,395
this particular storm.
679
00:32:52,395 --> 00:32:55,213
No matter how good his
team of public relations
680
00:32:55,213 --> 00:32:59,109
experts, lawyers,
bad guys, attack dogs
681
00:32:59,109 --> 00:33:01,162
that he hires,
682
00:33:01,162 --> 00:33:04,432
Harvey Weinstein has been
exposed as a monster.
683
00:33:19,638 --> 00:33:22,211
- Meeting Harvey was,
for me, everything,
684
00:33:22,211 --> 00:33:24,961
thinking this is an opportunity,
685
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:27,187
and so I,
686
00:33:27,187 --> 00:33:30,770
everything in which
I believed in,
687
00:33:30,770 --> 00:33:33,937
and believing that there's
a second chance for me,
688
00:33:33,937 --> 00:33:35,399
he was that man.
689
00:33:36,477 --> 00:33:39,887
He took hold of me
690
00:33:39,887 --> 00:33:43,295
and pretty much
forced me to walk
691
00:33:43,295 --> 00:33:44,619
with him to the bathroom
692
00:33:44,619 --> 00:33:47,470
where he stood me in
front of the mirror
693
00:33:48,619 --> 00:33:51,611
and he stood behind me
694
00:33:51,611 --> 00:33:53,769
and I was like,
"What are you doing?"
695
00:33:53,769 --> 00:33:56,796
He's like touching
me, rubbing me,
696
00:33:56,796 --> 00:33:59,232
and he's like, "Just relax."
697
00:33:59,232 --> 00:34:00,518
And I'm telling him to stop
698
00:34:00,518 --> 00:34:01,979
and he would raise his voice
699
00:34:01,979 --> 00:34:04,206
but at the same time,
he kept reassuring me
700
00:34:04,206 --> 00:34:06,642
that everything's
going to be okay,
701
00:34:06,642 --> 00:34:08,764
and he was rubbing my breasts
702
00:34:08,764 --> 00:34:13,114
and he placed his leg
between mine from behind,
703
00:34:13,114 --> 00:34:16,766
and was rubbing
against my vagina,
704
00:34:16,766 --> 00:34:21,846
and he pulled, 'cause I
had a dress on at the time,
705
00:34:21,846 --> 00:34:24,838
and he pulled it down,
exposing my breasts.
706
00:34:24,838 --> 00:34:26,370
God, I feel so stupid.
707
00:34:28,352 --> 00:34:32,737
I would say to him,
"People believe in you
708
00:34:35,972 --> 00:34:38,511
"and it's not been
fair that you've used
709
00:34:38,511 --> 00:34:42,374
"the power, the
gift that you have,
710
00:34:42,374 --> 00:34:44,810
"you've turned it
into such a corruption
711
00:34:44,810 --> 00:34:47,070
"to take advantage
of other people."
712
00:34:55,666 --> 00:34:57,683
- You're meeting with
a very powerful guy
713
00:34:57,683 --> 00:35:00,292
in Hollywood, that's makes
a lot of actresses careers
714
00:35:00,292 --> 00:35:04,155
happen, so when he said
to go to the Peninsula,
715
00:35:04,155 --> 00:35:08,016
I just thought, "That's
a bar, so fine."
716
00:35:08,016 --> 00:35:10,521
So we met at the bar there,
717
00:35:10,521 --> 00:35:12,470
and we talked for a few minutes,
718
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:14,000
and then he didn't
really ask me,
719
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,340
he just said, "We're going
upstairs to my room."
720
00:35:17,340 --> 00:35:19,811
And I didn't really
know how to take that.
721
00:35:19,811 --> 00:35:25,030
I didn't know how to say
no to someone like him
722
00:35:25,656 --> 00:35:26,665
at the time,
723
00:35:26,665 --> 00:35:27,987
which I regret,
724
00:35:27,987 --> 00:35:31,084
and as many times as I
said no and resisted,
725
00:35:31,084 --> 00:35:33,067
I just feel like that he was not
726
00:35:33,067 --> 00:35:35,050
gonna let up on the idea,
727
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:37,313
and it's kind of like
I felt too frozen
728
00:35:37,313 --> 00:35:39,121
to run out of the room.
729
00:35:39,121 --> 00:35:42,043
- In this case, we allege that
730
00:35:42,043 --> 00:35:44,478
the Weinstein Company knew
731
00:35:45,906 --> 00:35:47,993
that one of its key
executives and part owner,
732
00:35:47,993 --> 00:35:52,099
Harvey Weinstein, was
engaging in sexual misconduct
733
00:35:52,099 --> 00:35:53,978
and that he was
using his position at
734
00:35:53,978 --> 00:35:57,283
The Weinstein Company
to bring young,
735
00:35:57,283 --> 00:36:01,597
aspiring actresses
into vulnerable places
736
00:36:01,597 --> 00:36:03,859
where he would
then prey on them.
737
00:36:03,859 --> 00:36:05,285
- Oh, I was there with them
738
00:36:05,285 --> 00:36:07,373
when we were shooting
it in Barcelona,
739
00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:09,529
and it's so hot, that place.
740
00:36:09,529 --> 00:36:13,253
It's so sexy, you just
get crazy thoughts there.
741
00:36:19,445 --> 00:36:23,134
Harvey, Harvey!
742
00:36:23,134 --> 00:36:24,003
Harvey!
743
00:36:26,335 --> 00:36:28,771
- He is really watching
his entire career
744
00:36:28,771 --> 00:36:30,336
collapse at this point,
745
00:36:30,336 --> 00:36:33,293
and he's being kicked out
of a lot of the esteemed
746
00:36:33,293 --> 00:36:35,764
guilds and industry
organizations.
747
00:36:35,764 --> 00:36:37,677
We've seen him
kicked out of BAFTA,
748
00:36:37,677 --> 00:36:39,730
we've seen him kicked out
of the Academy of Motion
749
00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:41,678
Picture Arts and Sciences.
750
00:36:41,678 --> 00:36:44,496
He was just kicked out of
the Television Academy,
751
00:36:44,496 --> 00:36:48,080
Producer's Guild, nobody
wants him, honestly,
752
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,829
because it's an honor to
be in any of these guilds
753
00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:53,473
or associated with
some of the people
754
00:36:53,473 --> 00:36:55,004
who have worked so
hard in the industry,
755
00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:55,978
and you know what?
756
00:36:55,978 --> 00:36:57,196
At this point, we're just like,
757
00:36:57,196 --> 00:36:58,622
"You're not holding
up the ideals
758
00:36:58,622 --> 00:37:00,884
"of the organization, so
we have to say goodbye."
759
00:37:00,884 --> 00:37:04,085
- Well over two thirds
of the board of governors
760
00:37:04,085 --> 00:37:07,668
decided that they
weren't gonna put up with
761
00:37:07,668 --> 00:37:10,278
all of these claims
of sexual abuse
762
00:37:10,278 --> 00:37:13,131
and they decided to revoke
763
00:37:13,131 --> 00:37:16,054
Mr. Weinstein's membership
in that Academy.
764
00:37:16,054 --> 00:37:18,350
The Academy of Motion
Picture Arts and Sciences
765
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:20,506
board of governors
met today to discuss
766
00:37:20,506 --> 00:37:22,421
the allegations against
Harvey Weinstein
767
00:37:22,421 --> 00:37:25,761
and has voted well in excess
of the required two thirds
768
00:37:25,761 --> 00:37:29,657
majority to immediately
expel him from the Academy.
769
00:37:29,657 --> 00:37:32,614
We do so not simply to
separate ourselves from someone
770
00:37:32,614 --> 00:37:34,876
who does not merit the
respect of his colleagues
771
00:37:34,876 --> 00:37:37,277
but also to send a
message that the era
772
00:37:37,277 --> 00:37:40,269
of willful ignorance
and shameful complicity
773
00:37:41,557 --> 00:37:43,365
in sexually predatory
behavior and workplace
774
00:37:43,365 --> 00:37:45,557
harassment in our
industry is over.
775
00:37:51,055 --> 00:37:53,456
- We are here with
yet another woman
776
00:37:53,456 --> 00:37:57,631
who alleges that she was
victimized by Harvey Weinstein.
777
00:37:57,631 --> 00:38:00,205
- I was first introduced
to Harvey Weinstein
778
00:38:00,205 --> 00:38:04,380
at the European premiere
of The Aviator in 2004.
779
00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:06,364
After a few minutes of greetings
780
00:38:06,364 --> 00:38:08,034
and normal conversation,
781
00:38:08,034 --> 00:38:10,922
Harvey suddenly asked me
if I'd give him a massage.
782
00:38:12,418 --> 00:38:14,574
I said, "No, sorry,
I'm not a masseuse."
783
00:38:14,574 --> 00:38:17,011
And I suggested he
contact hotel reception
784
00:38:17,011 --> 00:38:18,194
with his request.
785
00:38:21,115 --> 00:38:23,621
He kept asking about massages,
786
00:38:23,621 --> 00:38:25,743
and so I felt the
meeting was going nowhere
787
00:38:25,743 --> 00:38:26,961
and I left.
788
00:38:26,961 --> 00:38:28,597
He kept messaging and calling me
789
00:38:28,597 --> 00:38:30,405
and even showed up
at the apartment
790
00:38:30,405 --> 00:38:32,563
where I was staying
in the East Village
791
00:38:32,563 --> 00:38:34,824
twice in one day,
792
00:38:34,824 --> 00:38:36,738
literally, physically
forced himself
793
00:38:36,738 --> 00:38:38,477
in through the door,
pleading with me
794
00:38:38,477 --> 00:38:40,530
to come with him to Paris.
795
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:42,688
I found him overwhelming
to deal with,
796
00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:44,218
and I didn't know
how to shut it down,
797
00:38:44,218 --> 00:38:47,245
so I finally said, "I'm not
coming to Paris with you
798
00:38:47,245 --> 00:38:50,133
"and I hear you have a terrible
reputation with women."
799
00:38:51,315 --> 00:38:53,090
That's when he backed off.
800
00:38:53,090 --> 00:38:56,013
He was extremely persistent
and physically overpowering.
801
00:38:58,622 --> 00:39:01,649
He then orally
forced himself on me,
802
00:39:01,649 --> 00:39:03,632
while I was on my period.
803
00:39:06,590 --> 00:39:08,921
He even pulled my tampon out.
804
00:39:08,921 --> 00:39:10,383
I was mortified.
805
00:39:10,383 --> 00:39:12,853
I was in disbelief
and disgusted.
806
00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:22,351
I would not have wanted
anyone to do that to me,
807
00:39:22,351 --> 00:39:25,587
even if the person had
been a romantic partner.
808
00:39:27,396 --> 00:39:29,449
I remember Harvey
afterwards rolling over
809
00:39:29,449 --> 00:39:31,363
onto his back saying,
810
00:39:31,363 --> 00:39:35,015
"Don't you feel we're so much
closer to each other now?"
811
00:39:35,015 --> 00:39:36,756
To which I replied, "No."
812
00:39:41,905 --> 00:39:45,941
A no is a no regardless
of the circumstances,
813
00:39:45,941 --> 00:39:47,262
and I told Harvey no.
814
00:39:50,498 --> 00:39:54,500
- We need justice
for these victims.
815
00:39:55,787 --> 00:39:58,535
As soon as Mr. Weinstein
completes his therapy
816
00:39:58,535 --> 00:40:01,875
and returns to either
New York or Los Angeles,
817
00:40:01,875 --> 00:40:05,285
we urge him or his
representatives
818
00:40:05,285 --> 00:40:09,217
to contact me to discuss
our plan for justice
819
00:40:09,217 --> 00:40:10,052
for victims.
820
00:40:18,437 --> 00:40:21,881
Vague apologies are not enough.
821
00:40:30,336 --> 00:40:34,059
- I had created a safeguard
of how I could avoid
822
00:40:34,059 --> 00:40:38,860
those situations and I never
was in a hotel room with him
823
00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:40,113
alone again.
824
00:40:41,366 --> 00:40:46,549
There's a lot of shame
around that experience
825
00:40:46,549 --> 00:40:49,054
and then you ask yourself,
826
00:40:49,054 --> 00:40:51,560
"Why did I work for
this person after that?
827
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,403
"Why didn't I see it in the way
828
00:40:53,403 --> 00:40:55,212
"that the world has seen it now
829
00:40:55,212 --> 00:40:56,500
"when it happened?"
830
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:59,040
I think that secrecy
around it is probably
831
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,615
a big part of that.
832
00:41:01,615 --> 00:41:04,363
There are days that
I feel really angry,
833
00:41:04,363 --> 00:41:06,312
and upset
834
00:41:06,312 --> 00:41:09,861
and times when you feel that
835
00:41:11,809 --> 00:41:13,549
that person really is a monster
836
00:41:13,549 --> 00:41:17,027
and they deserve whatever
is coming to them
837
00:41:17,027 --> 00:41:19,185
but it's also not that,
838
00:41:19,185 --> 00:41:21,203
I've found that's
it not that helpful
839
00:41:21,203 --> 00:41:25,205
for me in terms of my
healing and understanding
840
00:41:25,205 --> 00:41:27,465
to feel that anger.
841
00:41:27,465 --> 00:41:30,458
It doesn't do
anything to serve me.
842
00:41:32,893 --> 00:41:34,355
- Actress
Emma Thompson spoke
843
00:41:34,355 --> 00:41:36,198
plainly and
eloquently to the BBC
844
00:41:36,198 --> 00:41:38,634
about the issues that
allowed this abuse
845
00:41:38,634 --> 00:41:40,408
of power to take place.
846
00:41:41,627 --> 00:41:44,653
- They see their only
choice to be this choice
847
00:41:44,653 --> 00:41:45,976
that isn't a choice in fact,
848
00:41:45,976 --> 00:41:47,750
it's about power,
849
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:49,280
it's about how am I,
that I have no power,
850
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,925
and that's because
in our systems
851
00:41:51,925 --> 00:41:53,456
there are not
nearly enough women,
852
00:41:53,456 --> 00:41:55,509
particularly in Hollywood
in positions of power.
853
00:41:55,509 --> 00:41:57,701
There aren't enough women
in the top of the tree
854
00:41:57,701 --> 00:41:59,892
in the studios who could perhaps
855
00:41:59,892 --> 00:42:01,424
balance everything out.
856
00:42:01,424 --> 00:42:04,102
There aren't enough
women on set.
857
00:42:04,102 --> 00:42:06,433
There just aren't
enough women, actually.
858
00:42:07,651 --> 00:42:09,634
- In Hollywood, whenever
there's a scandal,
859
00:42:09,634 --> 00:42:12,071
everybody talks about
redemption and rehab.
860
00:42:12,071 --> 00:42:13,357
It goes in that order.
861
00:42:13,357 --> 00:42:14,644
They beg for forgiveness
862
00:42:14,644 --> 00:42:16,210
and they go to rehab,
863
00:42:16,210 --> 00:42:18,263
whether it's for sex, 'cause
they got caught cheating,
864
00:42:18,263 --> 00:42:20,559
whether it's for drugs
because they got caught
865
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:22,821
doing cocaine, whether it's for,
866
00:42:22,821 --> 00:42:24,073
whatever it is,
867
00:42:24,073 --> 00:42:25,848
they ask for forgiveness
and they immediately
868
00:42:25,848 --> 00:42:27,065
check into rehab.
869
00:42:27,065 --> 00:42:29,048
We saw Harvey Weinstein
do the same thing.
870
00:42:29,048 --> 00:42:32,111
He gets called out as a
rapist, sexual predator,
871
00:42:32,111 --> 00:42:33,468
and the next thing you know,
872
00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:35,659
he's checking himself
into sex rehab.
873
00:42:37,677 --> 00:42:40,217
Now, I loved what
Emma Thompson said
874
00:42:40,217 --> 00:42:42,513
when she sat down
with Emily Madelis,
875
00:42:42,513 --> 00:42:44,532
the journalist, and said,
876
00:42:44,532 --> 00:42:47,037
"It's not about sex addiction.
877
00:42:47,037 --> 00:42:48,811
"That's a different thing.
878
00:42:48,811 --> 00:42:51,526
"This is about being
a sexual predator."
879
00:42:51,526 --> 00:42:53,368
And she really very nicely
880
00:42:53,368 --> 00:42:54,657
drew the distinction, I think,
881
00:42:54,657 --> 00:42:58,344
because it's one thing
to try and borrow
882
00:42:58,344 --> 00:43:00,640
someone else's
disease or illness
883
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,859
in order to make your bad
behavior seem more palatable.
884
00:43:05,859 --> 00:43:08,155
Celebrities time and
time again use rehab
885
00:43:08,155 --> 00:43:11,358
as a way to redeem themselves
in the eyes of the public.
886
00:43:11,358 --> 00:43:12,610
It's not acceptable.
887
00:43:12,610 --> 00:43:14,836
They need to own up
and take responsibility
888
00:43:14,836 --> 00:43:16,158
for what they've done.
889
00:43:16,158 --> 00:43:18,280
In the case of Harvey
Weinstein, initially,
890
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,951
it looked like he really thought
891
00:43:19,951 --> 00:43:23,778
he was gonna get away
with a quick fix.
892
00:43:23,778 --> 00:43:26,561
Go to rehab, it'll blow over.
893
00:43:26,561 --> 00:43:28,510
His wife was standing by him.
894
00:43:28,510 --> 00:43:32,302
He hired a very
powerful top lawyer,
895
00:43:32,302 --> 00:43:35,189
Elisa Bloom, who was famous
for representing women,
896
00:43:35,189 --> 00:43:37,452
and I think he thought
he had locked down.
897
00:43:37,452 --> 00:43:39,469
If you look at his
initial statement,
898
00:43:39,469 --> 00:43:41,974
he throws out vague accusations
899
00:43:41,974 --> 00:43:43,715
against the women
who had come forward.
900
00:43:43,715 --> 00:43:47,298
He implies Ashley
Judd is mentally ill.
901
00:43:47,298 --> 00:43:49,455
He denies every doing anything
902
00:43:49,455 --> 00:43:50,776
that was not consensual,
903
00:43:50,776 --> 00:43:53,109
and I think he thinks
he's got it covered.
904
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:55,369
And it wasn't until
five days later
905
00:43:55,369 --> 00:43:59,545
when all the gate,
the floodgates opened,
906
00:43:59,545 --> 00:44:01,318
that I think he realized
907
00:44:01,318 --> 00:44:04,972
this dozens and dozens of women
908
00:44:04,972 --> 00:44:06,433
started speaking out
909
00:44:06,433 --> 00:44:08,312
that actually there was no way
910
00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:10,853
he was going to be able
to contain the situation.
911
00:44:20,142 --> 00:44:22,612
- The lengths to which
Harvey Weinstein to go,
912
00:44:22,612 --> 00:44:25,675
and his access, his ability
to go to these lengths
913
00:44:25,675 --> 00:44:27,378
to protect his name
914
00:44:27,378 --> 00:44:30,058
and to protect himself
from any accusations
915
00:44:30,058 --> 00:44:31,763
were quite extraordinary,
916
00:44:31,763 --> 00:44:34,442
so for instance,
he hired Blackcube,
917
00:44:34,442 --> 00:44:36,982
ex-Israeli intelligence officers
918
00:44:36,982 --> 00:44:40,218
to find out who might
be making allegations
919
00:44:40,218 --> 00:44:42,827
against him and
to shut them down.
920
00:44:42,827 --> 00:44:46,028
That is an extraordinary
powerful position to be in,
921
00:44:46,028 --> 00:44:47,454
so again, when people say,
922
00:44:47,454 --> 00:44:49,055
"Why didn't people speak up?"
923
00:44:49,055 --> 00:44:51,038
So not only are you dealing
with Harvey Weinstein,
924
00:44:51,038 --> 00:44:52,604
not only are you
risking your career,
925
00:44:52,604 --> 00:44:54,587
not only are you
gonna be blacklisted,
926
00:44:54,587 --> 00:44:56,953
not only might you
be counter-sued
927
00:44:56,953 --> 00:44:57,962
for false allegations,
928
00:44:57,962 --> 00:44:59,284
you're also gonna face the might
929
00:44:59,284 --> 00:45:01,615
of all sorts of
the murkier world
930
00:45:01,615 --> 00:45:03,632
of intelligence and security
931
00:45:03,632 --> 00:45:06,903
that are set up and designed
to protect these men,
932
00:45:06,903 --> 00:45:09,895
and men like Harvey
Weinstein use that veil
933
00:45:09,895 --> 00:45:12,365
and use that screen
of protection,
934
00:45:12,365 --> 00:45:14,106
and it makes them
believe two things,
935
00:45:14,106 --> 00:45:17,028
one, that they'll never
ever ever get caught
936
00:45:17,028 --> 00:45:18,942
and secondly, if
they do get caught,
937
00:45:18,942 --> 00:45:20,821
if something dares
to accuse them,
938
00:45:20,821 --> 00:45:22,908
they will crush the
accuser like a fly.
939
00:45:24,265 --> 00:45:27,014
- We walked out of
the room and we lost,
940
00:45:27,014 --> 00:45:29,031
and then I realized
why I'm distributing
941
00:45:29,031 --> 00:45:31,571
this money, because they
picked on the wrong guy,
942
00:45:31,571 --> 00:45:33,137
they picked on the wrong movie,
943
00:45:33,137 --> 00:45:34,841
they picked on the wrong thing.
944
00:45:40,409 --> 00:45:42,426
- One of the great myths
of Harvey Weinstein,
945
00:45:42,426 --> 00:45:43,400
people will say,
946
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,106
"Well, it can't be that real."
947
00:45:45,106 --> 00:45:47,819
"Because some of
these allegations go
back a long while.
948
00:45:47,819 --> 00:45:50,534
"Why are these women
coming out now?"
949
00:45:50,534 --> 00:45:52,968
You imagine this scenario, okay?
950
00:45:52,968 --> 00:45:57,039
You are a woman in a
lower state of power,
951
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,719
relative to one of
the most powerful men
952
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,319
in the entertainment industry,
953
00:46:01,319 --> 00:46:03,790
one of the most powerful
men in the United States.
954
00:46:03,790 --> 00:46:06,642
This man knows everybody.
955
00:46:06,642 --> 00:46:09,495
The top lawyers,
top politicians,
956
00:46:09,495 --> 00:46:13,393
presidents, every film
director, every producer,
957
00:46:13,393 --> 00:46:15,549
ever actor, everybody
958
00:46:15,549 --> 00:46:19,133
acknowledges and bows
down to Harvey Weinstein.
959
00:46:19,133 --> 00:46:21,812
You haven't been
touched inappropriately
960
00:46:21,812 --> 00:46:24,247
in a vulnerable position
with nowhere near
961
00:46:24,247 --> 00:46:26,509
his economic power,
his social power,
962
00:46:26,509 --> 00:46:29,710
his political power,
what are you gonna do?
963
00:46:29,710 --> 00:46:31,728
You're gonna think,
"That wasn't right."
964
00:46:31,728 --> 00:46:33,050
And more often than not,
965
00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:34,929
you may even turn
round and think,
966
00:46:34,929 --> 00:46:36,947
"Was it something I did?"
967
00:46:36,947 --> 00:46:38,235
This is what's most pernicious
968
00:46:38,235 --> 00:46:39,764
about people like
Harvey Weinstein
969
00:46:39,764 --> 00:46:41,575
because their power is so great
970
00:46:41,575 --> 00:46:43,558
and the women he
abused were powerless,
971
00:46:43,558 --> 00:46:46,724
relative to him until
now, relative to him,
972
00:46:46,724 --> 00:46:48,289
they might think,
973
00:46:50,064 --> 00:46:51,490
"Well, what did I lead him on?
974
00:46:51,490 --> 00:46:52,778
"Was it something I did?"
975
00:46:52,778 --> 00:46:53,717
And the answer to
that is an absolute
976
00:46:53,717 --> 00:46:54,691
and categorical no.
977
00:46:54,691 --> 00:46:57,231
These women did not do anything
978
00:46:57,231 --> 00:46:59,596
to encourage Harvey Weinstein
979
00:46:59,596 --> 00:47:03,390
to engage with them
against their consent.
980
00:47:03,390 --> 00:47:05,373
And they have not
only had to live
981
00:47:05,373 --> 00:47:07,425
with the abuse,
they've had to live
982
00:47:07,425 --> 00:47:09,164
with the feeling
of powerlessness
983
00:47:09,164 --> 00:47:10,765
about having been abused
984
00:47:10,765 --> 00:47:13,027
and also, feeling ashamed of it,
985
00:47:13,027 --> 00:47:16,019
while Harvey Weinstein
just goes on and on and on
986
00:47:16,019 --> 00:47:18,176
and keeps doing it and
doing it and doing it.
987
00:47:18,176 --> 00:47:21,238
This is not just
the insatiability
988
00:47:21,238 --> 00:47:23,743
of dopamine, a
neurotransmitter in the brain
989
00:47:23,743 --> 00:47:25,413
that drives the reward system,
990
00:47:25,413 --> 00:47:27,710
it's the insatiability
of a powerful men
991
00:47:27,710 --> 00:47:29,657
who preys on people that
are weaker than him,
992
00:47:29,657 --> 00:47:31,885
women that are weaker than him.
993
00:47:31,885 --> 00:47:33,868
- Excellent girl, excellent.
994
00:47:33,868 --> 00:47:35,607
No, there's no better.
995
00:47:35,607 --> 00:47:36,825
You know what I mean?
996
00:47:36,825 --> 00:47:38,112
She's just terrific.
997
00:47:38,112 --> 00:47:40,131
She's good, really good,
good, she's wonderful.
998
00:47:40,131 --> 00:47:41,801
- She's
got a real charisma
999
00:47:41,801 --> 00:47:43,018
and presence about her.
- She does.
1000
00:47:43,018 --> 00:47:44,375
She certainly does.
1001
00:47:44,375 --> 00:47:45,976
- The whole thing
about Weinstein
1002
00:47:45,976 --> 00:47:49,142
was about power, it
wasn't about sex,
1003
00:47:49,142 --> 00:47:53,178
and because every
time he expressed
1004
00:47:53,178 --> 00:47:55,752
what he considered
to be his status,
1005
00:47:55,752 --> 00:47:57,979
his power, his
dominance over women
1006
00:47:57,979 --> 00:48:00,762
he would get a chemical
high, a dopamine high.
1007
00:48:00,762 --> 00:48:02,954
The reward system
would kick in and say,
1008
00:48:02,954 --> 00:48:04,764
"Well done, Harvey."
1009
00:48:04,764 --> 00:48:06,607
And then, he'd go down after it.
1010
00:48:06,607 --> 00:48:09,634
It was known, some women
reported him as being tearful
1011
00:48:09,634 --> 00:48:11,722
or crying or whatever it was.
1012
00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:14,263
He may be remorseful for
a short amount of time,
1013
00:48:14,263 --> 00:48:15,584
but that is in no
way gonna change
1014
00:48:15,584 --> 00:48:16,767
that behavior pattern,
1015
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,516
because the craving comes back,
1016
00:48:20,525 --> 00:48:22,195
and then he does it again.
1017
00:48:22,195 --> 00:48:24,700
It could be touching a
woman inappropriately.
1018
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:26,684
It could be sexually
assaulting her.
1019
00:48:26,684 --> 00:48:29,780
It could be rape, it could
be anything on that spectrum,
1020
00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:33,085
but unwanted physical
or emotional abuse
1021
00:48:33,085 --> 00:48:34,999
of a woman by a powerful man
1022
00:48:34,999 --> 00:48:36,321
and he thought he
could get away with it,
1023
00:48:36,321 --> 00:48:38,234
and he couldn't
stop the cravings,
1024
00:48:38,234 --> 00:48:40,078
because not all the
money in the world,
1025
00:48:40,078 --> 00:48:41,540
not all the status in the world,
1026
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:43,070
not all the power in the world
1027
00:48:43,070 --> 00:48:45,368
could stop that dopamine
rush telling him,
1028
00:48:45,368 --> 00:48:47,002
"Go on, Harvey, do it again,
1029
00:48:47,002 --> 00:48:48,916
"'cause this is how
we get pleasure.
1030
00:48:48,916 --> 00:48:51,038
"This is how we get off."
1031
00:48:51,038 --> 00:48:54,448
And when you're used to
getting away with it,
1032
00:48:54,448 --> 00:48:57,196
when you've done it
10 times, 100 times,
1033
00:48:57,196 --> 00:48:59,458
1000 times, who knows
how many times he did it,
1034
00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:00,745
over so many years,
1035
00:49:00,745 --> 00:49:02,207
and everybody knows about it
1036
00:49:02,207 --> 00:49:04,156
and he knows that
everybody knows about it,
1037
00:49:04,156 --> 00:49:05,477
and he knows that
everybody knows about it
1038
00:49:05,477 --> 00:49:07,426
and he's still
getting away with it,
1039
00:49:07,426 --> 00:49:08,991
he's gonna keep doing it.
1040
00:49:08,991 --> 00:49:11,879
Harvey Weinstein was
a man who groomed
1041
00:49:11,879 --> 00:49:14,523
an entire industry,
1042
00:49:14,523 --> 00:49:17,341
the entire film industry,
the entire entertainment
1043
00:49:17,341 --> 00:49:20,438
industry was groomed
by Harvey Weinstein,
1044
00:49:20,438 --> 00:49:23,604
and quite likely, people
are standing up and saying
1045
00:49:23,604 --> 00:49:25,621
enough is enough.
1046
00:49:25,621 --> 00:49:28,336
If men get their rush
from abusing women,
1047
00:49:28,336 --> 00:49:29,623
well, too bad.
1048
00:49:29,623 --> 00:49:30,876
They've got to pay
a price for it,
1049
00:49:30,876 --> 00:49:32,302
and it's time for
them to get their rush
1050
00:49:32,302 --> 00:49:33,520
and doing something else
1051
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,190
that's safe and
legal and consensual,
1052
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:36,442
whatever that might be.
1053
00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:45,732
- There isn't really
an answer for Harvey
1054
00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:49,038
in terms of his just
going to rehab in Arizona,
1055
00:49:49,038 --> 00:49:51,507
saying he's going
for sexual addiction
1056
00:49:51,507 --> 00:49:52,691
or anything else like that,
1057
00:49:52,691 --> 00:49:54,779
because he's a predator.
1058
00:49:54,779 --> 00:49:57,318
He clearly set
the path and tried
1059
00:49:57,318 --> 00:49:59,545
to trap these women
in his hotel room
1060
00:49:59,545 --> 00:50:00,833
or in his house,
1061
00:50:00,833 --> 00:50:04,241
wherever it was, he
tried to make it happen,
1062
00:50:04,241 --> 00:50:06,086
and I don't think
it's that simple
1063
00:50:06,086 --> 00:50:07,686
of going to one week of rehab
1064
00:50:07,686 --> 00:50:09,565
and just being
like, "I'm sorry."
1065
00:50:09,565 --> 00:50:11,339
I have no sympathy for him,
1066
00:50:11,339 --> 00:50:13,427
because honestly,
this is a behavior
1067
00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:14,819
that's gone on for decades
1068
00:50:14,819 --> 00:50:17,811
and one week of rehab
is not going to solve
1069
00:50:17,811 --> 00:50:19,308
your problems.
1070
00:50:19,308 --> 00:50:21,430
- I think we're passed the
point of sexual addiction here.
1071
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:22,995
This is not a sex addict.
1072
00:50:22,995 --> 00:50:27,031
This is a rapist,
this is a predator,
1073
00:50:27,031 --> 00:50:29,258
this is an abuser.
1074
00:50:31,762 --> 00:50:33,190
A victimizer,
1075
00:50:34,302 --> 00:50:36,147
he's a complete monster.
1076
00:50:37,608 --> 00:50:39,938
- Like a lot of
malignant narcissists,
1077
00:50:39,938 --> 00:50:41,957
which I have no
doubt that he is,
1078
00:50:41,957 --> 00:50:44,984
Harvey believed that he
was capable of everything.
1079
00:50:44,984 --> 00:50:48,220
He was a super
human, super power
1080
00:50:48,220 --> 00:50:51,874
who could do whatever
he wanted to,
1081
00:50:51,874 --> 00:50:53,473
and get away with it.
1082
00:50:53,473 --> 00:50:56,849
All you have to look at
is his initial statement
1083
00:50:56,849 --> 00:50:59,632
after the women bravely
came forward in the Times,
1084
00:50:59,632 --> 00:51:02,624
after the New York
Magazine piece exposed him
1085
00:51:02,624 --> 00:51:06,938
for being such a
horrendous monster.
1086
00:51:06,938 --> 00:51:10,800
He still thinks he's
gonna go to a quick trip
1087
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,514
to Arizona sex rehab and be back
1088
00:51:13,514 --> 00:51:18,663
at the top of his game, no
understanding whatsoever.
1089
00:51:18,663 --> 00:51:22,560
- There is definitely
the appearance
1090
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,622
that he is admitting to
something inappropriate.
1091
00:51:28,475 --> 00:51:29,763
Or he's doing it
'cause he thinks
1092
00:51:29,763 --> 00:51:33,833
he can just do a public
relations clean up,
1093
00:51:33,833 --> 00:51:35,608
that, "Okay, I'm gonna
go to this place.
1094
00:51:35,608 --> 00:51:36,895
"I'm going to admit my problem.
1095
00:51:36,895 --> 00:51:38,077
"I'm gonna come out
and tell everyone,
1096
00:51:38,077 --> 00:51:39,608
"look, I'm better now."
1097
00:51:42,218 --> 00:51:43,609
If I was a betting man,
1098
00:51:45,037 --> 00:51:47,437
I would bet on Harvey thinks
this is a great public
1099
00:51:47,437 --> 00:51:48,307
relations move,
1100
00:51:50,081 --> 00:51:52,969
and I don't think
it's gonna work
1101
00:51:52,969 --> 00:51:55,405
in any way, shape, or form.
1102
00:51:57,528 --> 00:51:59,406
Harvey is done.
1103
00:51:59,406 --> 00:52:02,050
Harvey's career in
Hollywood is over.
1104
00:52:02,050 --> 00:52:03,790
I don't know where
else Harvey can even
1105
00:52:03,790 --> 00:52:05,494
have a career
1106
00:52:05,494 --> 00:52:07,861
and now we're looking
at prosecutors
1107
00:52:07,861 --> 00:52:10,470
in several cities
around the world
1108
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:13,080
who are looking into
these rape allegations
1109
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,619
and are looking to bring
charges against him,
1110
00:52:15,619 --> 00:52:19,098
so if he is charged with rape,
1111
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:24,909
either to trial or he does
some sort of plea bargain,
1112
00:52:24,909 --> 00:52:29,675
he's looking at spending
many years in prison
1113
00:52:29,675 --> 00:52:31,937
if not the rest of his life.
1114
00:52:40,809 --> 00:52:42,235
- The
sheer number of people
1115
00:52:42,235 --> 00:52:45,088
coming forward to share
their own experiences
1116
00:52:45,088 --> 00:52:47,176
at the hands of powerful
and dangerous men
1117
00:52:47,176 --> 00:52:49,542
in Hollywood shocked the world.
1118
00:52:51,073 --> 00:52:52,987
But to those in the industry,
1119
00:52:52,987 --> 00:52:56,535
this was nothing more than
a long awaited spotlight
1120
00:52:56,535 --> 00:52:58,866
shining light on a dark truth.
1121
00:53:00,676 --> 00:53:02,207
- The idea of the casting couch
1122
00:53:02,207 --> 00:53:04,190
and the recent allegations
that have come out
1123
00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:06,730
have not been shocking
to anyone in Hollywood.
1124
00:53:06,730 --> 00:53:09,444
Unfortunately, the extent
of some of the allegations
1125
00:53:09,444 --> 00:53:12,505
have been the most
surprising thing.
1126
00:53:12,505 --> 00:53:14,628
I think people knew
that it was not a very
1127
00:53:14,628 --> 00:53:17,028
well kept secret, that
actors and actresses
1128
00:53:17,028 --> 00:53:18,977
were propositioned by directors
1129
00:53:18,977 --> 00:53:20,890
or spoken to inappropriately,
1130
00:53:20,890 --> 00:53:24,335
however I don't believe
that the pervasiveness,
1131
00:53:24,335 --> 00:53:26,458
especially of the allegations
against Harvey Weinstein
1132
00:53:26,458 --> 00:53:27,779
were known.
1133
00:53:27,779 --> 00:53:29,589
- The casting culture
has been around since
1134
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:31,989
the beginning of castings.
1135
00:53:31,989 --> 00:53:35,816
I know everyone says
this, but it's true,
1136
00:53:35,816 --> 00:53:38,356
it's in every industry,
1137
00:53:38,356 --> 00:53:41,383
so we call it casting
here in Hollywood,
1138
00:53:41,383 --> 00:53:44,479
but in another industry,
they just call it applying
1139
00:53:44,479 --> 00:53:47,750
for a job, so it's really,
1140
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:49,212
since the beginning of time,
1141
00:53:49,212 --> 00:53:51,508
since people had power
1142
00:53:51,508 --> 00:53:52,725
and there are other
people who wanna
1143
00:53:52,725 --> 00:53:54,466
be part of their world,
1144
00:53:54,466 --> 00:53:56,031
there are people out
there who take advantage
1145
00:53:56,031 --> 00:53:58,361
of that power, take
advantage of people
1146
00:53:58,361 --> 00:54:00,102
who want something so badly.
1147
00:54:01,319 --> 00:54:03,372
- The Hollywood casting
couch has been around
1148
00:54:03,372 --> 00:54:06,330
for as long as they've
been making movies.
1149
00:54:06,330 --> 00:54:08,382
This is a dynamic where you have
1150
00:54:08,382 --> 00:54:10,192
a lot of very powerful men
1151
00:54:10,192 --> 00:54:13,497
and a lot of very
young, beautiful women,
1152
00:54:13,497 --> 00:54:17,394
and it just has
naturally evolved
1153
00:54:17,394 --> 00:54:22,055
into a very dark and ugly,
predatory arrangement.
1154
00:54:22,055 --> 00:54:25,883
Going back all the way
to the big studio heads
1155
00:54:25,883 --> 00:54:29,293
who wielded unprecedented
power in Hollywood,
1156
00:54:29,293 --> 00:54:31,485
these men preyed,
very frequently,
1157
00:54:31,485 --> 00:54:34,199
on young ingenue
starlet actresses
1158
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:36,634
and, in fact, one
Hollywood mogul
1159
00:54:36,634 --> 00:54:40,218
even had an office
next to his main office
1160
00:54:40,218 --> 00:54:42,688
where he would audition
starlets every day
1161
00:54:42,688 --> 00:54:45,263
between four and 4:30 PM
1162
00:54:45,263 --> 00:54:47,524
and everybody knew
what audition meant.
1163
00:54:47,524 --> 00:54:50,725
You have very famous
stories of you actresses
1164
00:54:50,725 --> 00:54:54,482
like Shirley Temple,
who had an MGM producer
1165
00:54:54,482 --> 00:54:57,857
expose themself to her when
she was just 12 years old,
1166
00:54:57,857 --> 00:55:00,362
stories about Louis B.
Meyer who was running
1167
00:55:00,362 --> 00:55:02,763
the big Hollywood
studio at the time,
1168
00:55:02,763 --> 00:55:06,312
who was basically
feeling up Judy Garland
1169
00:55:06,312 --> 00:55:07,704
every time she would come in.
1170
00:55:07,704 --> 00:55:09,479
She was a young singer, actress,
1171
00:55:09,479 --> 00:55:11,775
and he would put his
hand on her breasts
1172
00:55:11,775 --> 00:55:14,593
and say, "This is
where you sing from.
1173
00:55:14,593 --> 00:55:15,915
"This is how you sing."
1174
00:55:15,915 --> 00:55:19,116
And he used it as an
excuse to molest her.
1175
00:55:19,116 --> 00:55:22,317
The stories that
have long been apart
1176
00:55:22,317 --> 00:55:24,126
of Hollywood folklore
1177
00:55:24,126 --> 00:55:26,214
are dark and ugly,
1178
00:55:26,214 --> 00:55:28,267
but it's only now, I think,
1179
00:55:28,267 --> 00:55:30,772
in recent times that
people are actually
1180
00:55:30,772 --> 00:55:33,277
calling these what they are,
1181
00:55:33,277 --> 00:55:36,686
which is sexual predation
and in some cases, rape.
1182
00:55:39,574 --> 00:55:42,915
The Hollywood casting couch
really is about power,
1183
00:55:42,915 --> 00:55:45,315
and you have a lot
of very powerful men
1184
00:55:45,315 --> 00:55:48,238
who are taking
advantage of that power.
1185
00:55:48,238 --> 00:55:50,116
We see it across all industries.
1186
00:55:50,116 --> 00:55:51,995
You see it in
investment banking,
1187
00:55:51,995 --> 00:55:54,082
you see it in any industry where
1188
00:55:54,082 --> 00:55:56,692
there are a lot of men
in positions of power
1189
00:55:56,692 --> 00:55:59,023
and women who are not.
1190
00:55:59,023 --> 00:56:02,294
In the years between
something like 2006 and 2017
1191
00:56:02,294 --> 00:56:07,513
only 4% of Hollywood
directors were female,
1192
00:56:08,487 --> 00:56:10,157
and 80% of those
female directors
1193
00:56:10,157 --> 00:56:12,001
only ever got to make one movie.
1194
00:56:13,810 --> 00:56:16,072
The balance of power in
Hollywood is massively skewed
1195
00:56:16,072 --> 00:56:19,342
in favor of men and anytime
1196
00:56:19,342 --> 00:56:22,264
you get a group of men
that are this powerful
1197
00:56:22,264 --> 00:56:25,396
and women who are
trying to break through,
1198
00:56:25,396 --> 00:56:27,797
there are always going
to be those bad apples
1199
00:56:27,797 --> 00:56:29,536
who use their position of power
1200
00:56:29,536 --> 00:56:31,484
in a way to abuse women.
1201
00:56:35,278 --> 00:56:36,565
- So we've seen other
cases in Hollywood
1202
00:56:36,565 --> 00:56:39,592
and these men have been
forgiven in some ways,
1203
00:56:39,592 --> 00:56:41,888
but I think people are
starting to reconsider
1204
00:56:41,888 --> 00:56:43,732
whether they should be forgiven.
1205
00:56:43,732 --> 00:56:45,716
You take a look at
the Roman Polanski,
1206
00:56:47,281 --> 00:56:50,655
he was convicted of
raping a 13 year old
1207
00:56:50,655 --> 00:56:53,022
and he had her under
the influence of alcohol
1208
00:56:53,022 --> 00:56:55,770
and drugs, he was charged
with sodomy and rape
1209
00:56:55,770 --> 00:56:58,206
and you have to sit
there and take a look,
1210
00:56:58,206 --> 00:57:01,128
he's clearly guilty and
he fled the country.
1211
00:57:01,128 --> 00:57:04,086
He did not want to
serve any jail time,
1212
00:57:04,086 --> 00:57:06,103
but he's still been able to work
1213
00:57:06,103 --> 00:57:07,565
in the entertainment industry,
1214
00:57:07,565 --> 00:57:09,653
and he's been
nominated for Oscars
1215
00:57:09,653 --> 00:57:12,923
and the actors will go
and fly over to Europe
1216
00:57:12,923 --> 00:57:14,175
and work with him,
1217
00:57:14,175 --> 00:57:16,332
so clearly there's some
sort of forgiveness
1218
00:57:16,332 --> 00:57:17,793
if you're okay with that,
1219
00:57:17,793 --> 00:57:19,707
and then you take a
look at Woody Allen,
1220
00:57:19,707 --> 00:57:22,039
and again, A list
stars are always
1221
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:24,544
willing to work with
Woody even though,
1222
00:57:24,544 --> 00:57:27,049
and we all know
this, that he went
1223
00:57:27,049 --> 00:57:29,659
and had an affair
with his stepdaughter
1224
00:57:29,659 --> 00:57:31,258
who was under 18 at the time
1225
00:57:31,258 --> 00:57:32,963
and then it continued on until
1226
00:57:34,181 --> 00:57:36,581
she was a legal age and
now they are married
1227
00:57:36,581 --> 00:57:37,939
and they have kids,
1228
00:57:37,939 --> 00:57:40,201
but come on, it's really creepy,
1229
00:57:40,201 --> 00:57:42,114
and on top of that,
he was then accused
1230
00:57:42,114 --> 00:57:47,125
of molesting another one
of his wife's siblings,
1231
00:57:47,125 --> 00:57:49,733
and it's really complicated
1232
00:57:49,733 --> 00:57:51,855
and it's gross and
everything else,
1233
00:57:51,855 --> 00:57:53,212
but again, actors aren't saying,
1234
00:57:53,212 --> 00:57:54,501
"You know what?
1235
00:57:54,501 --> 00:57:55,718
"I shouldn't be
working with him."
1236
00:57:55,718 --> 00:57:57,110
But now I think people
are really gonna
1237
00:57:57,110 --> 00:57:58,431
open their eyes.
1238
00:57:58,431 --> 00:57:59,720
- No one was immune.
1239
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,060
Even Joan Collins, who
was famous at the time,
1240
00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:05,982
and was up the lead
part of Cleopatra.
1241
00:58:05,982 --> 00:58:08,522
Cleopatra, she was the
front runner for the role,
1242
00:58:08,522 --> 00:58:10,192
and she said the
director basically
1243
00:58:10,192 --> 00:58:12,418
said to her, "If you
really want this role,
1244
00:58:12,418 --> 00:58:15,307
"you have to be nice to me."
1245
00:58:15,307 --> 00:58:17,741
Which in the 1960s
meant have sex with me.
1246
00:58:17,741 --> 00:58:21,986
She didn't and she lost the
role to Elizabeth Taylor,
1247
00:58:21,986 --> 00:58:23,900
but no one is immune.
1248
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:26,613
Helen Mirren talked
about how one particular
1249
00:58:26,613 --> 00:58:28,075
director, Michael
Winner, treated her
1250
00:58:28,075 --> 00:58:29,467
like a piece of meat.
1251
00:58:29,467 --> 00:58:34,025
You go from the most
prestigious powerful
1252
00:58:34,025 --> 00:58:35,521
respected leading lady
1253
00:58:35,521 --> 00:58:39,522
to the youngest ingenue
reality star starlet,
1254
00:58:39,522 --> 00:58:42,654
everyone at every level
seems to have experienced
1255
00:58:42,654 --> 00:58:45,367
something like this.
1256
00:58:45,367 --> 00:58:47,489
- One of the most famous cases
1257
00:58:47,489 --> 00:58:50,934
is Tippi Hedren and
director Alfred Hitchcock.
1258
00:58:50,934 --> 00:58:53,265
Now he was obsessed with her
1259
00:58:53,265 --> 00:58:55,805
and she was a part of his muses
1260
00:58:55,805 --> 00:58:58,276
that they were called
his icy blondes,
1261
00:58:58,276 --> 00:58:59,980
and I think what was interesting
1262
00:58:59,980 --> 00:59:02,207
is that in her book last year,
1263
00:59:02,207 --> 00:59:05,129
Tippi actually talked
about several incidents
1264
00:59:05,129 --> 00:59:08,087
where he was sexually
harassing her,
1265
00:59:08,087 --> 00:59:09,757
he was sexually assaulting her,
1266
00:59:09,757 --> 00:59:12,401
and she was constantly
fending him off.
1267
00:59:12,401 --> 00:59:14,627
Oftentimes, he would
throw himself on her.
1268
00:59:14,627 --> 00:59:16,576
He would touch her
inappropriately,
1269
00:59:16,576 --> 00:59:17,864
and if she didn't respond,
1270
00:59:17,864 --> 00:59:20,264
he would not only
be mean to her,
1271
00:59:20,264 --> 00:59:21,899
actually downright cruel,
1272
00:59:21,899 --> 00:59:23,639
but he also told her one time,
1273
00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:25,449
"I'm going to ruin your career
1274
00:59:25,449 --> 00:59:27,293
"if you don't sleep with me."
1275
00:59:27,293 --> 00:59:30,354
And essentially,
that is what he did.
1276
00:59:30,354 --> 00:59:32,894
They were in the middle
of filming Marnie
1277
00:59:32,894 --> 00:59:34,146
when he told her that
1278
00:59:34,146 --> 00:59:36,129
and he basically didn't
talk to her anymore.
1279
00:59:36,129 --> 00:59:38,044
They finished the film,
1280
00:59:38,044 --> 00:59:40,653
but he made sure that
she never worked again
1281
00:59:40,653 --> 00:59:43,576
and remember, her whole
career was really started
1282
00:59:43,576 --> 00:59:44,862
thanks to Alfred Hitchcock
1283
00:59:44,862 --> 00:59:47,159
and he started it
and he ended it.
1284
00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:49,525
He had that much power.
1285
00:59:49,525 --> 00:59:51,578
- I think it's been going
on since man and woman
1286
00:59:51,578 --> 00:59:53,839
were put on this earth,
1287
00:59:53,839 --> 00:59:55,161
and I don't think
there's anything
1288
00:59:55,161 --> 00:59:56,796
that's going to stop it.
1289
00:59:56,796 --> 00:59:58,919
I think that was has to happen
1290
00:59:58,919 --> 01:00:03,199
is young people
have to be educated
1291
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:07,651
in what they can accept
1292
01:00:07,651 --> 01:00:09,913
or what they should accept,
1293
01:00:09,913 --> 01:00:11,097
what they shouldn't accept,
1294
01:00:12,314 --> 01:00:14,298
and it should be made
very clear for them.
1295
01:00:14,298 --> 01:00:16,837
Alfred Hitchcock told
me he'd ruin my career,
1296
01:00:18,333 --> 01:00:20,803
and I stood up and as I
was walking out the door,
1297
01:00:20,803 --> 01:00:23,031
I said, "Do what
you have to do."
1298
01:00:23,031 --> 01:00:26,231
And I think it was
the best door slamming
1299
01:00:26,231 --> 01:00:27,657
I've ever done.
1300
01:00:27,657 --> 01:00:29,675
This isn't unique to Hollywood.
1301
01:00:29,675 --> 01:00:32,112
It's just that Hollywood
is more glamorous
1302
01:00:32,112 --> 01:00:33,954
and it's more fun to talk about
1303
01:00:33,954 --> 01:00:36,877
when it's an actress
and a big producer,
1304
01:00:36,877 --> 01:00:39,731
and that makes a story.
1305
01:00:39,731 --> 01:00:44,288
That sort of activity
needs to be brought out
1306
01:00:44,288 --> 01:00:48,324
and that there are
women who will say no
1307
01:00:48,324 --> 01:00:52,430
and you are absolutely wrong
in even attempting this,
1308
01:00:54,517 --> 01:00:58,275
and we have a right to act out
1309
01:00:58,275 --> 01:01:01,442
how we feel about
that kind of thing.
1310
01:01:04,469 --> 01:01:06,591
- To women
who are wondering about
1311
01:01:06,591 --> 01:01:08,505
speaking out, what is
your message to them?
1312
01:01:08,505 --> 01:01:10,035
- Keep it up.
1313
01:01:10,035 --> 01:01:11,810
It's the only way
it's gonna stop.
1314
01:01:13,341 --> 01:01:15,150
You don't have to
put up with that.
1315
01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:19,568
There's a not a
reason in the world,
1316
01:01:19,568 --> 01:01:20,820
not a good one.
1317
01:01:25,762 --> 01:01:27,745
- More people come forward,
1318
01:01:27,745 --> 01:01:32,163
the more it's talked about,
1319
01:01:32,163 --> 01:01:35,991
the less victims
are going to feel
1320
01:01:35,991 --> 01:01:37,939
like they don't
have anywhere to go,
1321
01:01:37,939 --> 01:01:39,853
and now they can go somewhere,
1322
01:01:39,853 --> 01:01:44,341
it's not shameful,
it's not something
1323
01:01:44,341 --> 01:01:47,507
that's going to threaten
their entire lives.
1324
01:01:47,507 --> 01:01:48,759
That they could survive.
1325
01:01:53,770 --> 01:01:55,301
- The Me Too movement
1326
01:01:55,301 --> 01:01:58,466
has only been made
possible by social media
1327
01:01:58,466 --> 01:02:00,345
and even though
the movement began
1328
01:02:00,345 --> 01:02:03,060
in response to the
Weinstein allegations,
1329
01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:06,330
it has become a symbol
of strength and unity
1330
01:02:06,330 --> 01:02:09,496
to all those affected
by sexual abuse.
1331
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,211
- So what was interesting
about all of these Harvey
1332
01:02:16,211 --> 01:02:20,177
stories is that it really
fueled a social media
1333
01:02:20,177 --> 01:02:23,483
frenzy with the hashtag me too,
1334
01:02:23,483 --> 01:02:27,241
and celebrity and TV
star Alyssa Milano
1335
01:02:27,241 --> 01:02:29,814
really came forward and
just started pushing
1336
01:02:29,814 --> 01:02:32,042
the hashtag and a lot of women
1337
01:02:32,042 --> 01:02:33,608
just started sharing
their stories
1338
01:02:33,608 --> 01:02:35,591
and saying, "This happened
to me when I was a kid.
1339
01:02:35,591 --> 01:02:37,086
"This happened to me in college.
1340
01:02:37,086 --> 01:02:38,827
"This happened to me last week."
1341
01:02:38,827 --> 01:02:40,983
And it was amazing to see
1342
01:02:40,983 --> 01:02:43,210
that not only was it
happening in Hollywood,
1343
01:02:43,210 --> 01:02:44,568
it was happening in sports,
1344
01:02:44,568 --> 01:02:46,968
it was happening in
the tech industry,
1345
01:02:46,968 --> 01:02:48,743
it happens in politics.
1346
01:02:48,743 --> 01:02:51,282
It's not just limited
to Los Angeles.
1347
01:02:51,282 --> 01:02:53,127
It is happening
all over the place
1348
01:02:53,127 --> 01:02:55,353
and I think women
are starting to feel
1349
01:02:55,353 --> 01:02:56,918
okay about sharing
their stories.
1350
01:02:56,918 --> 01:02:58,137
There's no shame.
1351
01:02:58,137 --> 01:02:59,494
We're here to
support each other,
1352
01:02:59,494 --> 01:03:01,650
and I'm glad people
are paying attention.
1353
01:03:04,851 --> 01:03:07,390
I think what's helpful
in this situation
1354
01:03:07,390 --> 01:03:10,905
is social media has
been a big player
1355
01:03:10,905 --> 01:03:13,340
when it comes to
sharing these stories.
1356
01:03:13,340 --> 01:03:15,498
You realize that famous women
1357
01:03:15,498 --> 01:03:17,689
and not so famous
women, people from just
1358
01:03:17,689 --> 01:03:19,568
average walks of
life have experienced
1359
01:03:19,568 --> 01:03:21,100
the same exact thing
1360
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:22,700
and realizing
we're all the same,
1361
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:26,805
and I think it's
really helped everyone
1362
01:03:26,805 --> 01:03:28,788
feel better about the situation
1363
01:03:28,788 --> 01:03:30,389
and then now take action
1364
01:03:30,389 --> 01:03:32,651
on how we're not going to
have this happen again,
1365
01:03:32,651 --> 01:03:34,216
and that's what we really saw
1366
01:03:34,216 --> 01:03:35,956
when it came to
that me too hashtag.
1367
01:03:35,956 --> 01:03:38,599
- It's life changing,
it's life changing,
1368
01:03:38,599 --> 01:03:40,514
and we create cultural content
1369
01:03:40,514 --> 01:03:42,149
and we know that we have
to get our own house
1370
01:03:42,149 --> 01:03:43,541
in order, our
representation of women
1371
01:03:43,541 --> 01:03:46,602
and people of color
and LGBTQ folks
1372
01:03:46,602 --> 01:03:50,116
is frankly still really poor
1373
01:03:50,116 --> 01:03:52,204
and there's a lot of
room for improvement,
1374
01:03:52,204 --> 01:03:54,744
and we have our 50
50 by 2020 push,
1375
01:03:54,744 --> 01:03:57,562
which is to have 50%
women and 50% men
1376
01:03:57,562 --> 01:04:01,946
across all positions
across our entire industry
1377
01:04:01,946 --> 01:04:05,947
including putting women in
positions of decision making,
1378
01:04:05,947 --> 01:04:08,209
and through our leadership,
1379
01:04:08,209 --> 01:04:09,878
we hope that the
rest of the country
1380
01:04:09,878 --> 01:04:12,767
continues to catch fire
with this revolution
1381
01:04:12,767 --> 01:04:15,516
of safer workspaces
for everyone.
1382
01:04:20,316 --> 01:04:22,718
- My greatest fear
was that it would be
1383
01:04:22,718 --> 01:04:25,605
a flash in the pan and we'd
move on to the next outrage
1384
01:04:25,605 --> 01:04:27,240
coming from the White House.
1385
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:32,459
Instead, it really does
feel like something seismic
1386
01:04:33,711 --> 01:04:36,947
is happening in the way
we look at the balance
1387
01:04:36,947 --> 01:04:39,104
of power, the way
women are excluded
1388
01:04:39,104 --> 01:04:42,619
from most of the
areas of the decision
1389
01:04:42,619 --> 01:04:47,803
making level, in
government, in boardrooms,
1390
01:04:48,742 --> 01:04:51,387
in business, in the media,
1391
01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:55,770
and the abuses that fall
from that imbalance,
1392
01:04:55,770 --> 01:04:58,415
so that's what the
correction is gonna be.
1393
01:04:58,415 --> 01:04:59,667
It's going to be very messy.
1394
01:04:59,667 --> 01:05:03,704
Somebody said in
the Times Up group,
1395
01:05:03,704 --> 01:05:05,513
which I'm apart,
1396
01:05:05,513 --> 01:05:08,923
that we're building
the airplane as we're
1397
01:05:08,923 --> 01:05:11,636
taking it out down the runway,
1398
01:05:11,636 --> 01:05:15,081
and that's the mess of it,
1399
01:05:15,081 --> 01:05:18,907
but I think it's a really,
really valuable shift
1400
01:05:18,907 --> 01:05:21,552
that I feel happening.
1401
01:05:21,552 --> 01:05:22,526
- What
about the backlash
1402
01:05:22,526 --> 01:05:24,614
against yourself, obviously?
1403
01:05:24,614 --> 01:05:28,476
After you made that speech
at the Golden Globes,
1404
01:05:28,476 --> 01:05:30,250
it's like you put your
head above the parapet.
1405
01:05:30,250 --> 01:05:31,816
People are gonna take aim,
1406
01:05:31,816 --> 01:05:33,451
and it feels like that's
what's happening with you
1407
01:05:33,451 --> 01:05:36,200
now, people saying, "Weinstein,
she must have known."
1408
01:05:37,660 --> 01:05:39,088
- Yes.
1409
01:05:39,088 --> 01:05:43,610
I think I'm taking the
hit for an entire group
1410
01:05:43,610 --> 01:05:48,829
of people who worked
with Harvey Weinstein,
1411
01:05:48,829 --> 01:05:50,151
but the people...
1412
01:05:52,099 --> 01:05:57,145
What's difficult about this
is that it precedes him,
1413
01:05:57,145 --> 01:05:58,676
these abuses,
1414
01:05:58,676 --> 01:06:03,025
and there was Roger Ales
who ran the Fox Network,
1415
01:06:03,025 --> 01:06:08,244
there was Bill O'Reilly,
who Fox paid out
1416
01:06:09,983 --> 01:06:15,098
35 million dollars in
silence money to women
1417
01:06:15,098 --> 01:06:19,726
and sexual harassment suits.
1418
01:06:19,726 --> 01:06:24,561
In our country, the settlement
of a sexual harassment suit
1419
01:06:24,561 --> 01:06:26,718
is a legitimate tax deduction.
1420
01:06:27,937 --> 01:06:31,068
It's built into the
way of doing business.
1421
01:06:31,068 --> 01:06:32,981
This is outrageous,
1422
01:06:32,981 --> 01:06:37,052
and it is again, because
the balance of power
1423
01:06:37,052 --> 01:06:39,836
that's off, as for me taking--
1424
01:06:39,836 --> 01:06:41,123
- But you
knew about these things,
1425
01:06:41,123 --> 01:06:43,210
you didn't know about
these things until now?
1426
01:06:44,567 --> 01:06:46,341
- Well, the specific, no.
1427
01:06:46,341 --> 01:06:47,977
We know that people are jerks.
1428
01:06:47,977 --> 01:06:49,821
We know that there's
a lot of people
1429
01:06:49,821 --> 01:06:51,109
that are assholes out there,
1430
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:52,570
we know that there's
a lot of people
1431
01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:55,910
that utilize their
position and their gravitas
1432
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:58,901
for something other, lot
of times it's riches,
1433
01:06:58,901 --> 01:07:00,989
a lot of times it's just
fun to be storytellers,
1434
01:07:00,989 --> 01:07:02,695
but a lot of times
it's been able
1435
01:07:02,695 --> 01:07:04,608
to take advantage of the people
1436
01:07:04,608 --> 01:07:07,705
who are powerless against you.
1437
01:07:07,705 --> 01:07:10,210
That's, without a doubt,
1438
01:07:10,210 --> 01:07:11,705
that's been part and pull,
1439
01:07:11,705 --> 01:07:13,028
and you hear stories
and you go like,
1440
01:07:13,028 --> 01:07:15,810
we all have joined
a circus here,
1441
01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:18,073
and in that circus,
there is going
1442
01:07:19,221 --> 01:07:20,648
to be all sorts of
inappropriate messages,
1443
01:07:20,648 --> 01:07:22,318
inappropriate behavior,
1444
01:07:22,318 --> 01:07:26,702
and some stuff downright
sexual predatory aspects of it.
1445
01:07:26,702 --> 01:07:28,962
What can come out of all this
1446
01:07:28,962 --> 01:07:32,198
is understanding,
look, sex and flirting
1447
01:07:32,198 --> 01:07:33,938
and whatever you wanna call it,
1448
01:07:33,938 --> 01:07:36,931
affairs of the flesh are
never going to go away,
1449
01:07:36,931 --> 01:07:39,504
but what can go hand
in hand with that
1450
01:07:39,504 --> 01:07:42,636
is the parody that
where you work
1451
01:07:42,636 --> 01:07:45,594
actually reflects the
rest of the world,
1452
01:07:45,594 --> 01:07:47,820
that it's not one
gender having control
1453
01:07:47,820 --> 01:07:53,039
proportionally, when
in fact it should be
1454
01:07:53,805 --> 01:07:55,335
somewhere around 50 50
1455
01:07:55,335 --> 01:07:57,388
and when it is 50 50,
1456
01:07:57,388 --> 01:07:59,023
I think there's gonna
be board members
1457
01:07:59,023 --> 01:08:00,589
who are gonna say,
1458
01:08:00,589 --> 01:08:03,338
"We are paying out millions
of dollars for what exactly?"
1459
01:08:03,338 --> 01:08:04,868
And then you're gonna see--
- Won't happen.
1460
01:08:04,868 --> 01:08:06,400
- And then you're
gonna see a difference.
1461
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,035
- If you
were on the set together
1462
01:08:08,035 --> 01:08:10,366
and you wanted to put
your arm round Meryl,
1463
01:08:10,366 --> 01:08:11,932
you know each other
really well as friends,
1464
01:08:11,932 --> 01:08:13,949
put your arm around
Meryl's shoulder,
1465
01:08:13,949 --> 01:08:15,724
touch her on the knee,
1466
01:08:15,724 --> 01:08:17,916
are you thinking twice
about things like that?
1467
01:08:17,916 --> 01:08:19,760
It works both ways,
of course, doesn't it?
1468
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,265
This is the debate
that's going on now.
1469
01:08:22,265 --> 01:08:23,797
- Yeah.
1470
01:08:23,797 --> 01:08:25,501
Yeah.
1471
01:08:25,501 --> 01:08:28,423
No, I wouldn't think
twice about it,
1472
01:08:28,423 --> 01:08:33,086
and also, with actors, it's
a very different thing.
1473
01:08:33,086 --> 01:08:36,077
Tom's not employing me.
1474
01:08:36,077 --> 01:08:37,609
It's a different thing
1475
01:08:37,609 --> 01:08:42,793
when there's an imbalance
in the power dynamic.
1476
01:08:43,697 --> 01:08:45,367
If somebody's somebody's boss
1477
01:08:45,367 --> 01:08:49,682
or potentially a woman
is trying to get a job,
1478
01:08:49,682 --> 01:08:52,292
it's a very, very
different thing.
1479
01:08:52,292 --> 01:08:56,988
In the United States,
there was a newscaster
1480
01:08:56,988 --> 01:08:58,763
who had a button under his desk
1481
01:08:58,763 --> 01:09:00,711
that would lock the door
1482
01:09:00,711 --> 01:09:05,930
when his young women
interns would come in.
1483
01:09:07,113 --> 01:09:11,705
These are abuses beyond
imagining, honestly,
1484
01:09:12,923 --> 01:09:14,593
and shouldn't be
in the workplace.
1485
01:09:14,593 --> 01:09:17,203
Everybody deserves a workplace
1486
01:09:17,203 --> 01:09:19,812
that's respectful and safe.
1487
01:09:19,812 --> 01:09:21,969
That's the simplest piece of it.
1488
01:09:24,405 --> 01:09:26,040
- Well, first of all, can I say
1489
01:09:27,258 --> 01:09:28,546
I think that the women
who've come forward
1490
01:09:28,546 --> 01:09:31,329
and talked about
their experiences
1491
01:09:31,329 --> 01:09:32,895
in relation to this individual
1492
01:09:32,895 --> 01:09:34,703
have been very brave to do so
1493
01:09:34,703 --> 01:09:37,000
and I commend them
for doing that.
1494
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,366
We have an independent body
1495
01:09:39,366 --> 01:09:42,185
here in the UK that
looks at these issues
1496
01:09:42,185 --> 01:09:43,750
that will look into the issue
1497
01:09:43,750 --> 01:09:47,577
as to whether his honor
should be taken from him.
1498
01:09:47,577 --> 01:09:49,421
They will do that independently,
1499
01:09:49,421 --> 01:09:51,613
and I think we just let
them get on with that job.
1500
01:09:51,613 --> 01:09:54,083
- What's interesting is
I hear a lot of people
1501
01:09:54,083 --> 01:09:56,448
saying when speaking
about girl's empowerment,
1502
01:09:56,448 --> 01:09:58,920
finding and knowing their worth,
1503
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,485
or women's empowerment as well,
1504
01:10:00,485 --> 01:10:02,468
you'll often hear people say,
1505
01:10:02,468 --> 01:10:04,556
"You're helping women
find their voices."
1506
01:10:04,556 --> 01:10:06,365
And I fundamentally
disagree with that
1507
01:10:06,365 --> 01:10:08,974
because women don't
need to find the voice.
1508
01:10:08,974 --> 01:10:10,263
They have a voice.
1509
01:10:10,263 --> 01:10:12,001
They need to feel
empowered to use it,
1510
01:10:12,001 --> 01:10:13,950
and people need to be
encouraged to listen,
1511
01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:15,759
and I think right
now in the climate
1512
01:10:15,759 --> 01:10:18,786
that we're seeing
so many campaigns,
1513
01:10:18,786 --> 01:10:21,013
Me Too and Times Up,
1514
01:10:21,013 --> 01:10:22,578
there is no better time
1515
01:10:22,578 --> 01:10:24,735
than to really continue
to shine a light
1516
01:10:24,735 --> 01:10:27,519
on women feeling empowered
1517
01:10:27,519 --> 01:10:29,537
and people really
helping to support them,
1518
01:10:29,537 --> 01:10:31,590
men included in that,
1519
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:33,990
I mean, it makes such a
tremendous difference.
1520
01:10:35,522 --> 01:10:37,470
- I think the good
thing that is happening
1521
01:10:37,470 --> 01:10:39,139
with the Harvey
Weinstein situation
1522
01:10:39,139 --> 01:10:42,445
is the fact that it is
going to be a domino effect.
1523
01:10:42,445 --> 01:10:44,462
We are going to see
women finally saying,
1524
01:10:44,462 --> 01:10:46,550
"You know what, I'm not
going to accept this.
1525
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:49,334
"I'm gonna tell people
about what happened to me
1526
01:10:49,334 --> 01:10:51,456
"so they can learn
from that experience."
1527
01:10:51,456 --> 01:10:53,126
And we have seen
that start to happen
1528
01:10:53,126 --> 01:10:55,597
with Kevin Spacey,
we've seen allegations
1529
01:10:55,597 --> 01:10:57,162
against even Ben Affleck,
1530
01:10:57,162 --> 01:11:01,929
we've seen allegations against
Bryan Singer, the director,
1531
01:11:01,929 --> 01:11:04,225
and we are starting to see,
1532
01:11:04,225 --> 01:11:05,512
it's like a house of cards,
1533
01:11:05,512 --> 01:11:08,296
it just literally is
starting to fall away,
1534
01:11:08,296 --> 01:11:12,054
and we've heard like
five, six, seven stories.
1535
01:11:12,054 --> 01:11:13,898
I think there's a
lot more to come.
1536
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:18,734
- He might be exceptional
in terms of the years
1537
01:11:19,986 --> 01:11:21,169
and the number of
women he targeted,
1538
01:11:21,169 --> 01:11:22,631
but this is a
culture in Hollywood.
1539
01:11:22,631 --> 01:11:25,901
It extends well beyond
Harvey Weinstein.
1540
01:11:25,901 --> 01:11:28,024
There are dozens of
other Harvey Weinsteins
1541
01:11:28,024 --> 01:11:29,519
in Hollywood.
1542
01:11:30,807 --> 01:11:33,103
- Look, for every story
about Gwyneth Paltrow
1543
01:11:33,103 --> 01:11:35,643
or Charlize Theron
being sexually harassed,
1544
01:11:35,643 --> 01:11:37,313
there are also stories
1545
01:11:37,313 --> 01:11:40,549
about all very, very
famous leading men
1546
01:11:40,549 --> 01:11:42,010
also being harassed.
1547
01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:43,889
A lot of them
haven't come forward
1548
01:11:43,889 --> 01:11:46,290
so I can't name their names,
1549
01:11:46,290 --> 01:11:49,142
but I can talk about Kevin
Spacey and Anthony Rapp.
1550
01:11:49,142 --> 01:11:51,857
Anthony Rapp is a young actor,
1551
01:11:51,857 --> 01:11:54,710
was at the time, in
particular on stage
1552
01:11:54,710 --> 01:11:56,553
who worked with Kevin Spacey,
1553
01:11:56,553 --> 01:11:58,362
when Kevin Spacey,
according to him,
1554
01:11:58,362 --> 01:11:59,615
tried to seduce him.
1555
01:12:01,355 --> 01:12:04,416
Anthony Rapp was one of
the first, very brave men
1556
01:12:04,416 --> 01:12:06,748
to come forward and say
it's not just women,
1557
01:12:06,748 --> 01:12:08,244
this happened to me.
1558
01:12:08,244 --> 01:12:10,226
I think there are a lot of men
1559
01:12:10,226 --> 01:12:13,149
who are straight, who are
living as straight men
1560
01:12:13,149 --> 01:12:17,220
who have been preyed
upon by other men
1561
01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:20,700
in the industry but because
of perhaps embarrassment
1562
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:24,839
or confusion or not
wanting to come out
1563
01:12:24,839 --> 01:12:27,171
as having had a gay
sexual experience
1564
01:12:27,171 --> 01:12:29,571
with a man in power,
1565
01:12:29,571 --> 01:12:32,773
it has caused a certain
reluctance on their part.
1566
01:12:32,773 --> 01:12:34,826
Perhaps they feel
they have more to lose
1567
01:12:34,826 --> 01:12:37,887
in terms of their public image
1568
01:12:37,887 --> 01:12:42,305
to admit that they slept
with a powerful male producer
1569
01:12:42,305 --> 01:12:44,358
or director in order
to get a film role,
1570
01:12:44,358 --> 01:12:48,742
but virtually all, quite
a few of our most famous
1571
01:12:48,742 --> 01:12:52,847
leading men have been
harassed as well.
1572
01:12:52,847 --> 01:12:55,632
- The fact that
somebody that powerful,
1573
01:12:55,632 --> 01:12:57,441
his career has been
completely ruined,
1574
01:12:57,441 --> 01:12:59,598
and I think that's
a real message
1575
01:12:59,598 --> 01:13:02,521
to anybody who would
behave like this,
1576
01:13:02,521 --> 01:13:07,740
and I think that social media
1577
01:13:08,958 --> 01:13:10,314
has given everybody a
voice and a platform
1578
01:13:10,314 --> 01:13:13,584
and everyone realizes
that they're not alone
1579
01:13:13,584 --> 01:13:15,185
and women realize
that they're not alone
1580
01:13:15,185 --> 01:13:17,134
and that their voice matters
and their voice can be heard
1581
01:13:17,134 --> 01:13:21,134
and that means behavior's
going to change.
1582
01:13:21,134 --> 01:13:22,770
- We've seen the
Bill Cosby stories,
1583
01:13:22,770 --> 01:13:24,962
we've the president of
the United States tell us
1584
01:13:24,962 --> 01:13:26,284
exactly what he does,
1585
01:13:26,284 --> 01:13:28,824
we've seen this go
on and on and on,
1586
01:13:28,824 --> 01:13:30,355
and I think we have to
get to the point where
1587
01:13:30,355 --> 01:13:32,407
maybe this is it, maybe this
is the watershed moment,
1588
01:13:32,407 --> 01:13:34,043
where we believe women,
1589
01:13:34,043 --> 01:13:36,652
where they feel safe,
that they can talk about
1590
01:13:36,652 --> 01:13:39,436
what they're experiencing.
1591
01:13:39,436 --> 01:13:40,410
- So we've heard a lot of people
1592
01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:41,975
from the industry talk about it,
1593
01:13:41,975 --> 01:13:46,046
recently we had both Matt
Damon and George Clooney
1594
01:13:46,046 --> 01:13:47,821
talking about the situation.
1595
01:13:47,821 --> 01:13:50,012
They've both worked with
him in different capacities
1596
01:13:50,012 --> 01:13:52,831
over the years and
Matt really owes
1597
01:13:52,831 --> 01:13:56,241
the beginning of his
career to Harvey Weinstein,
1598
01:13:56,241 --> 01:14:00,068
and he said, "I didn't
know this was going on
1599
01:14:00,068 --> 01:14:02,538
"and it's shocking in some ways,
1600
01:14:02,538 --> 01:14:04,243
"but I have to make
sure that I'm protecting
1601
01:14:04,243 --> 01:14:06,296
"the actresses around me
1602
01:14:06,296 --> 01:14:09,113
"and I don't condone this
behavior or anything else
1603
01:14:09,113 --> 01:14:11,445
"like that and I don't
wanna be apart of it."
1604
01:14:11,445 --> 01:14:13,288
And I think for George
Clooney, he said,
1605
01:14:13,288 --> 01:14:15,272
"I did hear stories.
1606
01:14:15,272 --> 01:14:16,560
"Harvey would tell me stories
1607
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,264
"about some of my
female friends,
1608
01:14:18,264 --> 01:14:20,839
"and he said that he
had slept with them.
1609
01:14:20,839 --> 01:14:22,578
"I just didn't think
that they would do that
1610
01:14:22,578 --> 01:14:24,144
"and I didn't believe them,
1611
01:14:24,144 --> 01:14:25,954
"but in the long run,
I should have been
1612
01:14:25,954 --> 01:14:28,528
"more proactive about
calling him out on that
1613
01:14:28,528 --> 01:14:30,754
"or making sure that my
friends were protected."
1614
01:14:30,754 --> 01:14:33,225
And so we're seeing
A list celebrities
1615
01:14:33,225 --> 01:14:34,825
willing to speak out
1616
01:14:34,825 --> 01:14:37,539
although everybody's wondering
1617
01:14:37,539 --> 01:14:39,140
what Uma Thurman has.
1618
01:14:39,140 --> 01:14:41,088
She recently spoke and said,
1619
01:14:41,088 --> 01:14:43,733
"I'm too angry
right now to speak."
1620
01:14:43,733 --> 01:14:47,142
And she worked
extensively with Harvey,
1621
01:14:47,142 --> 01:14:49,961
so I don't know whether
she has a personal story
1622
01:14:49,961 --> 01:14:52,569
or she knows of
things that happened,
1623
01:14:52,569 --> 01:14:54,692
but she certainly,
1624
01:14:54,692 --> 01:14:55,979
when she's ready to talk,
1625
01:14:55,979 --> 01:14:57,650
I think everyone's
ready to listen.
1626
01:14:57,650 --> 01:14:59,424
- So I've been waiting
1627
01:15:00,607 --> 01:15:01,895
to feel less angry,
1628
01:15:03,043 --> 01:15:04,017
and when I'm ready,
1629
01:15:04,956 --> 01:15:06,801
I'll say what I have to say.
1630
01:15:09,166 --> 01:15:10,976
- It would
only be months later
1631
01:15:10,976 --> 01:15:13,654
when she was able
to share her story.
1632
01:15:13,654 --> 01:15:17,551
According to Thurman in
1994, London Savoy hotel,
1633
01:15:17,551 --> 01:15:19,569
Harvey Weinstein pushed her down
1634
01:15:19,569 --> 01:15:22,282
and tried to force
himself upon her.
1635
01:15:22,282 --> 01:15:26,145
She said, "He did all
kinds of unpleasant things
1636
01:15:26,145 --> 01:15:28,441
"but he didn't actually
put his back into it
1637
01:15:28,441 --> 01:15:30,077
"and forced me.
1638
01:15:30,077 --> 01:15:34,286
"You're like an animal
wriggling away, like a lizard."
1639
01:15:34,286 --> 01:15:36,757
She said a bunch of flowers
arrived the next day
1640
01:15:36,757 --> 01:15:38,287
with the note reading,
1641
01:15:38,287 --> 01:15:40,410
"You have great instincts."
1642
01:15:43,333 --> 01:15:45,489
- To check what we say,
1643
01:15:45,489 --> 01:15:48,795
how we say it, who we say it to
1644
01:15:48,795 --> 01:15:51,856
is to put that in the spotlight
1645
01:15:51,856 --> 01:15:52,727
is a good thing.
1646
01:15:54,222 --> 01:15:59,441
And as Dylan said, the
times they are a changing.
1647
01:16:00,694 --> 01:16:04,347
- It started a few weeks
before the Golden Globes
1648
01:16:04,347 --> 01:16:08,661
in 2018, we started
hearing that actresses,
1649
01:16:08,661 --> 01:16:10,749
stylists, were pulling black.
1650
01:16:10,749 --> 01:16:13,219
There was a full page ad
in one of the Hollywood
1651
01:16:13,219 --> 01:16:16,873
magazines, trade
magazines, that said,
1652
01:16:16,873 --> 01:16:19,203
we're wearing black as
a sign of solidarity.
1653
01:16:19,203 --> 01:16:20,944
Hashtag times up,
1654
01:16:20,944 --> 01:16:24,458
Times Up is the
statement being made
1655
01:16:24,458 --> 01:16:27,832
that we will no longer
tolerate sexual predation.
1656
01:16:27,832 --> 01:16:29,885
We will no longer
tolerate sexual abuse.
1657
01:16:29,885 --> 01:16:32,460
Your time is up as a predator,
1658
01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:36,948
so in solidarity, we had
virtually every actress
1659
01:16:36,948 --> 01:16:39,522
in Hollywood wearing black,
1660
01:16:39,522 --> 01:16:44,011
black dresses as a way to
show that they were united
1661
01:16:44,011 --> 01:16:47,978
against the abuses
that had been going on.
1662
01:16:47,978 --> 01:16:49,786
Everyone was there
to make a statement
1663
01:16:49,786 --> 01:16:52,640
about times up, this is over,
1664
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,284
and then of course, you
have Natalie Portman
1665
01:16:55,284 --> 01:16:57,162
on stage announcing the nominees
1666
01:16:57,162 --> 01:17:01,512
for best director, and
she pauses and says,
1667
01:17:01,512 --> 01:17:06,452
"And here are the all male
nominees for best director."
1668
01:17:06,452 --> 01:17:08,714
It was a very powerful moment
1669
01:17:08,714 --> 01:17:10,871
and the reason is,
what Natalie Portman
1670
01:17:10,871 --> 01:17:13,411
was alluding to is
the real problem.
1671
01:17:13,411 --> 01:17:15,568
The real problem is that
there are so few women
1672
01:17:15,568 --> 01:17:18,282
at the table in Hollywood.
1673
01:17:18,282 --> 01:17:20,752
There are so few women
in positions of power
1674
01:17:20,752 --> 01:17:22,039
behind the scenes.
1675
01:17:22,039 --> 01:17:25,658
It's still very much a
male dominated industry
1676
01:17:25,658 --> 01:17:27,711
where women don't have a voice,
1677
01:17:27,711 --> 01:17:29,937
and as long as women
don't have a voice,
1678
01:17:29,937 --> 01:17:33,103
there are always going
to be abuses of power.
1679
01:17:34,878 --> 01:17:37,314
- I think everyone is
going to be talking about
1680
01:17:38,879 --> 01:17:39,749
this moment tonight
1681
01:17:40,967 --> 01:17:42,880
and we are amplifying
what a lot of people
1682
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,429
have been working for in
the country a long time
1683
01:17:46,429 --> 01:17:47,682
for social justice
1684
01:17:47,682 --> 01:17:50,395
and I think because
we're Hollywood
1685
01:17:50,395 --> 01:17:51,683
and we're in the spotlight,
1686
01:17:51,683 --> 01:17:54,570
sometimes I feel like
we have a responsibility
1687
01:17:54,570 --> 01:17:56,658
to address issues and especially
1688
01:17:56,658 --> 01:17:59,094
in light of what just
happened last year
1689
01:17:59,094 --> 01:18:01,147
and all these brave
women coming forward
1690
01:18:01,147 --> 01:18:02,190
and telling their stories
1691
01:18:02,190 --> 01:18:04,556
about harassment
and sexual abuse
1692
01:18:04,556 --> 01:18:06,156
in the workplace.
1693
01:18:06,156 --> 01:18:08,383
- This is just the beginning
of people talking about it,
1694
01:18:08,383 --> 01:18:10,784
talking on a red carpet
about such things,
1695
01:18:11,932 --> 01:18:13,672
there's gotta be a good move.
1696
01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:18,507
- What's so hopeful
is that the fact
1697
01:18:18,507 --> 01:18:21,013
that women now are speaking up.
1698
01:18:21,013 --> 01:18:22,682
They're going on
Twitter and saying,
1699
01:18:22,682 --> 01:18:24,075
"This happened to me."
1700
01:18:24,075 --> 01:18:26,128
Is giving a lot of men pause.
1701
01:18:26,128 --> 01:18:27,797
I was told that Leo DiCaprio,
1702
01:18:27,797 --> 01:18:32,356
who's famous for his love
of very young models,
1703
01:18:32,356 --> 01:18:35,382
has been extra
careful as of late
1704
01:18:35,382 --> 01:18:37,122
in social situations
1705
01:18:37,122 --> 01:18:39,314
when he tries to
pick up young girls
1706
01:18:39,314 --> 01:18:41,436
because he's now over 40
1707
01:18:41,436 --> 01:18:46,029
and very powerful and
even actors like DiCaprio
1708
01:18:46,029 --> 01:18:50,379
who are in this
Lothario category
1709
01:18:50,379 --> 01:18:52,883
are changing behavior
because they don't want
1710
01:18:52,883 --> 01:18:55,771
to be accused of something
later on down the line.
1711
01:18:55,771 --> 01:18:59,146
I do think behavior will
change, is changing.
1712
01:18:59,146 --> 01:19:02,033
The real work that
has to be done
1713
01:19:02,033 --> 01:19:05,443
is giving women more of
a voice in Hollywood.
1714
01:19:05,443 --> 01:19:07,635
I don't think until
women have more power
1715
01:19:07,635 --> 01:19:09,479
it's ever gonna go away,
1716
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,046
but I do think
there's an awful lot
1717
01:19:11,046 --> 01:19:14,907
of very nervous men in
Hollywood at the moment.
1718
01:19:16,125 --> 01:19:19,465
The day that the Harvey
Weinstein story broke,
1719
01:19:19,465 --> 01:19:22,944
you could literally hear
the men in Hollywood
1720
01:19:22,944 --> 01:19:25,693
picking up their phone
and calling their lawyers
1721
01:19:25,693 --> 01:19:29,311
and saying, "How much
trouble am I in?"
1722
01:19:29,311 --> 01:19:32,443
It caused a ripple
effect of fear
1723
01:19:32,443 --> 01:19:37,313
and panic amongst
Hollywood moguls
1724
01:19:37,313 --> 01:19:40,376
and agents and
managers who had abused
1725
01:19:40,376 --> 01:19:43,993
and continued to
abuse their power
1726
01:19:43,993 --> 01:19:46,046
with their leading ladies.
1727
01:19:53,771 --> 01:19:55,928
There are, of course,
a lot of women
1728
01:19:55,928 --> 01:19:59,268
who agreed to the terms
that Harvey Weinstein
1729
01:19:59,268 --> 01:20:00,902
and other men like him set out,
1730
01:20:00,902 --> 01:20:04,243
and they used it to
advance their careers.
1731
01:20:04,243 --> 01:20:06,887
I think a lot of those
women are silent now
1732
01:20:06,887 --> 01:20:09,288
or they're speaking
out about the fact
1733
01:20:09,288 --> 01:20:13,533
that they were forced
into the situation.
1734
01:20:13,533 --> 01:20:16,350
It's certainly true
that this game,
1735
01:20:16,350 --> 01:20:18,716
this negotiation, I should say,
1736
01:20:18,716 --> 01:20:21,430
of sexual favors in
exchange for power,
1737
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:23,727
has been going on and
continues to go on
1738
01:20:23,727 --> 01:20:25,154
in every industry.
1739
01:20:25,154 --> 01:20:27,519
I think in Hollywood,
it's so public
1740
01:20:27,519 --> 01:20:29,398
and it's so abused
and it's so common
1741
01:20:29,398 --> 01:20:33,609
and now, obviously, so exposed.
1742
01:20:33,609 --> 01:20:35,869
I think for a lot of women,
1743
01:20:35,869 --> 01:20:38,340
Harvey Weinstein
preyed, manipulated,
1744
01:20:38,340 --> 01:20:40,044
and forced himself on them
1745
01:20:40,044 --> 01:20:43,697
and in the confusion and
the pain and the trauma
1746
01:20:43,697 --> 01:20:45,472
of the aftermath,
1747
01:20:45,472 --> 01:20:47,978
some continued to
be his girlfriend,
1748
01:20:47,978 --> 01:20:52,153
some continued to have a
sexual relationship with him,
1749
01:20:52,153 --> 01:20:54,553
but I think psychologically
1750
01:20:54,553 --> 01:20:56,049
there's a lot at play there,
1751
01:20:56,049 --> 01:20:58,033
but it could be that it's easier
1752
01:20:58,033 --> 01:21:01,547
to believe that the
man who abused you
1753
01:21:01,547 --> 01:21:05,095
was your boyfriend, you just
hadn't started dating yet
1754
01:21:05,095 --> 01:21:06,870
than it is to
acknowledge the fact
1755
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:08,296
that you were raped.
1756
01:21:08,296 --> 01:21:10,245
That someone forced
himself on you,
1757
01:21:10,245 --> 01:21:12,819
and I think for
some of these women
1758
01:21:12,819 --> 01:21:14,246
who seem quite vulnerable,
1759
01:21:14,246 --> 01:21:18,283
once Harvey has assaulted them,
1760
01:21:18,283 --> 01:21:19,778
they convinced themselves
1761
01:21:19,778 --> 01:21:21,796
that there was a
relationship there
1762
01:21:21,796 --> 01:21:25,171
in a way to help
their own self esteem
1763
01:21:25,171 --> 01:21:28,825
and self worth and a way
to handle the situation
1764
01:21:28,825 --> 01:21:30,529
which would have
been very traumatic,
1765
01:21:30,529 --> 01:21:33,313
and a way to justify
perhaps what they felt
1766
01:21:33,313 --> 01:21:34,704
was their own guilt and shame,
1767
01:21:34,704 --> 01:21:36,340
which they shouldn't have had,
1768
01:21:36,340 --> 01:21:38,323
but is normal to have,
1769
01:21:39,367 --> 01:21:41,175
and their dirtiness about it.
1770
01:21:41,175 --> 01:21:44,063
They felt and they
wanted to make themselves
1771
01:21:44,063 --> 01:21:45,246
feel better and so they went on
1772
01:21:45,246 --> 01:21:47,299
to have a relationship with him,
1773
01:21:47,299 --> 01:21:50,953
but it doesn't change the fact
1774
01:21:50,953 --> 01:21:52,796
that they were abused,
they were assaulted,
1775
01:21:52,796 --> 01:21:54,049
they were preyed upon.
1776
01:21:54,049 --> 01:21:56,240
Whatever happened after that
1777
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,563
doesn't negate the fact
1778
01:21:57,563 --> 01:22:00,242
that what he did was wrong.
1779
01:22:10,610 --> 01:22:14,055
- Hopefully, it's an end to
this whole culture of fear
1780
01:22:14,055 --> 01:22:18,508
and the abuse of actresses
1781
01:22:19,448 --> 01:22:21,535
and I think the story,
1782
01:22:21,535 --> 01:22:22,822
I'm sure more is to come out,
1783
01:22:22,822 --> 01:22:26,614
because if actresses
lived under this fear
1784
01:22:26,614 --> 01:22:28,980
that their career
might be affected,
1785
01:22:28,980 --> 01:22:30,268
then that clearly indicates
1786
01:22:30,268 --> 01:22:31,729
it's not just that one person.
1787
01:22:31,729 --> 01:22:34,199
There must have
been other people.
1788
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:36,113
There must have been
a group of people
1789
01:22:36,113 --> 01:22:41,332
to be able to represent
that level of fear.
1790
01:22:44,011 --> 01:22:46,238
I hope also it means that people
1791
01:22:46,238 --> 01:22:51,214
now are much more confident
about speaking out,
1792
01:22:51,214 --> 01:22:52,640
and that's not just women,
1793
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,240
that's men as well,
1794
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,345
men who's women friends have
told them about an incident,
1795
01:22:58,345 --> 01:23:00,502
something that men have
to speak out as well.
1796
01:23:00,502 --> 01:23:02,486
- It feels disheartening,
1797
01:23:02,486 --> 01:23:03,425
the whole time
feels disheartening,
1798
01:23:04,643 --> 01:23:05,617
seeing it all the
time on television,
1799
01:23:05,617 --> 01:23:07,218
everything, it's oppressive.
1800
01:23:07,218 --> 01:23:10,697
It's good because I think
it's catalyst for change.
1801
01:23:10,697 --> 01:23:13,099
I think anger's a great
catalyst for change,
1802
01:23:13,099 --> 01:23:16,543
and being in reality about
what's really going on
1803
01:23:16,543 --> 01:23:18,142
is really healthy.
1804
01:23:18,142 --> 01:23:19,326
We're not always
all able to do it,
1805
01:23:19,326 --> 01:23:20,474
'cause we look at it sometimes,
1806
01:23:20,474 --> 01:23:22,457
it's like, terrifying.
1807
01:23:22,457 --> 01:23:24,475
- Who knew this movement
would take place?
1808
01:23:24,475 --> 01:23:28,337
It was very much necessary
1809
01:23:28,337 --> 01:23:30,112
and a long time coming,
1810
01:23:31,503 --> 01:23:33,452
and when we were making it,
1811
01:23:33,452 --> 01:23:34,983
I definitely felt like,
1812
01:23:34,983 --> 01:23:37,349
"Wow, this is a really
great girl power message."
1813
01:23:37,349 --> 01:23:39,193
And that was the term
that was being used,
1814
01:23:39,193 --> 01:23:41,140
when we were making
it, girl power.
1815
01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:42,915
- My heart goes out to anyone
1816
01:23:42,915 --> 01:23:45,525
who suffered through
that kind of experience
1817
01:23:45,525 --> 01:23:48,552
and abuse and I hope,
1818
01:23:48,552 --> 01:23:52,657
I'm thankful that women
who suffered through that
1819
01:23:52,657 --> 01:23:53,875
have their voices heard
1820
01:23:56,102 --> 01:23:59,025
and as a community we
can come together and say
1821
01:23:59,025 --> 01:24:00,625
that's not socially acceptable,
1822
01:24:00,625 --> 01:24:02,991
and we're not gonna stand
for that kind of behavior
1823
01:24:02,991 --> 01:24:04,521
and put a stop to it.
1824
01:24:05,774 --> 01:24:07,757
- All the stuff's
being revealed now
1825
01:24:07,757 --> 01:24:10,019
and now we have
to make a decision
1826
01:24:10,019 --> 01:24:11,793
about who are going forward,
1827
01:24:12,698 --> 01:24:14,089
and it isn't just about women,
1828
01:24:14,089 --> 01:24:16,629
it's about white
supremacy, it's about race.
1829
01:24:19,378 --> 01:24:21,118
It's a new time,
1830
01:24:21,118 --> 01:24:22,822
and we all gotta stick together,
1831
01:24:22,822 --> 01:24:24,944
we all gotta cross
our comfort zones,
1832
01:24:24,944 --> 01:24:26,649
we all gotta speak
up for each other,
1833
01:24:26,649 --> 01:24:28,146
if we wanna change the world.
1834
01:24:28,146 --> 01:24:29,746
If we don't wanna
change the world,
1835
01:24:29,746 --> 01:24:31,834
then we stay silent and quiet
1836
01:24:31,834 --> 01:24:33,713
and let the secrets persist
1837
01:24:33,713 --> 01:24:36,601
and everything will stay the
way it's going right now.
1838
01:24:36,601 --> 01:24:39,697
- It's women's minds,
women's bodies,
1839
01:24:39,697 --> 01:24:41,785
and so they have
control of that,
1840
01:24:41,785 --> 01:24:43,489
and so there's need
to be respect there.
1841
01:24:43,489 --> 01:24:46,168
There's a line, no means no.
1842
01:24:46,168 --> 01:24:49,195
- What's going on in
Hollywood, I believe,
1843
01:24:49,195 --> 01:24:50,656
is solidarity.
1844
01:24:50,656 --> 01:24:54,901
It's what happened
when all these women
1845
01:24:54,901 --> 01:24:57,302
shared their story
and said, "Me too."
1846
01:24:58,311 --> 01:25:00,259
What happened was connection
1847
01:25:00,259 --> 01:25:02,660
and that's what we all live for,
1848
01:25:02,660 --> 01:25:06,036
we live for belonging
to a community,
1849
01:25:06,036 --> 01:25:07,601
and the community has now said,
1850
01:25:07,601 --> 01:25:08,993
"You know what?
1851
01:25:08,993 --> 01:25:11,046
"We're ready to be inclusive."
1852
01:25:11,046 --> 01:25:13,863
I do think it will extend
beyond award season
1853
01:25:13,863 --> 01:25:16,925
and what I hope is
that it sends a message
1854
01:25:16,925 --> 01:25:19,255
to women who are
still in silence,
1855
01:25:19,255 --> 01:25:20,926
because of trauma
1856
01:25:20,926 --> 01:25:23,571
and who are suffering from
post-traumatic stress disorder
1857
01:25:23,571 --> 01:25:26,597
or depression or
contemplating suicide,
1858
01:25:26,597 --> 01:25:29,312
because of the trauma of
rape or sexual assault,
1859
01:25:29,312 --> 01:25:33,104
I want them to have
permission to speak up.
1860
01:25:33,104 --> 01:25:35,296
I want them to have
permission to say--
1861
01:25:35,296 --> 01:25:36,340
- It's really important.
1862
01:25:36,340 --> 01:25:39,193
- That it wasn't my fault,
1863
01:25:39,193 --> 01:25:41,837
and to out the perpetrator.
1864
01:25:41,837 --> 01:25:44,029
That's what I'm hoping.
1865
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,717
- The real problem is that
there are so few women
1866
01:25:47,717 --> 01:25:50,256
at the table in Hollywood.
1867
01:25:50,256 --> 01:25:52,901
There are so few women
in positions of power
1868
01:25:52,901 --> 01:25:54,188
behind the scenes.
1869
01:25:54,188 --> 01:25:57,737
It's still very much a
male dominated industry
1870
01:25:57,737 --> 01:25:59,790
where women don't have a voice,
1871
01:25:59,790 --> 01:26:02,050
and as long as women
don't have a voice,
1872
01:26:02,050 --> 01:26:05,323
there are always going
to be abuses of power.
1873
01:26:05,323 --> 01:26:08,593
What we've seen in recent times
1874
01:26:08,593 --> 01:26:10,993
is women have found a voice.
1875
01:26:10,993 --> 01:26:13,637
Things like Twitter
and social media
1876
01:26:13,637 --> 01:26:17,848
give someone like Rose
McGowen a massive platform
1877
01:26:17,848 --> 01:26:20,248
in which to express herself.
1878
01:26:20,248 --> 01:26:21,988
Prior to social media,
1879
01:26:21,988 --> 01:26:26,545
women didn't have a
way to communicate
1880
01:26:26,545 --> 01:26:30,442
to millions what had
happened to them,
1881
01:26:30,442 --> 01:26:35,592
outrage, fear,
anxiety, complaints.
1882
01:26:35,592 --> 01:26:36,913
They didn't have a voice.
1883
01:26:36,913 --> 01:26:37,993
They didn't have a platform.
1884
01:26:37,993 --> 01:26:40,080
Now, everybody has a chance.
1885
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,549
Everybody has a voice,
everybody has a platform.
1886
01:26:42,549 --> 01:26:45,368
- It's an important moment
and maybe a turning point.
1887
01:26:46,690 --> 01:26:48,361
I hope it's a tipping point.
1888
01:26:48,361 --> 01:26:49,683
The fact that all these women
1889
01:26:49,683 --> 01:26:51,909
have been brave enough
to come out and speak
1890
01:26:51,909 --> 01:26:53,927
and when you're not
in a powerful position
1891
01:26:53,927 --> 01:26:56,154
and the person that
you're telling on,
1892
01:26:56,154 --> 01:26:58,346
as it were, is,
1893
01:26:58,346 --> 01:27:00,502
there can be a cost.
1894
01:27:00,502 --> 01:27:02,208
People can be very critical.
1895
01:27:02,208 --> 01:27:03,774
- It was just disgusting,
1896
01:27:03,774 --> 01:27:08,123
and the stories that have
come out are heartbreaking,
1897
01:27:08,123 --> 01:27:09,758
and I really commend the women
1898
01:27:09,758 --> 01:27:12,750
who have been willing
to step forward now
1899
01:27:12,750 --> 01:27:14,247
and tell their stories,
1900
01:27:14,247 --> 01:27:16,508
but I think it's
important that we
1901
01:27:16,508 --> 01:27:19,708
not just focus on him
and whatever consequences
1902
01:27:19,708 --> 01:27:23,501
flow from the stories
about his behavior,
1903
01:27:23,501 --> 01:27:25,380
but that we recognize,
1904
01:27:25,380 --> 01:27:29,451
this kind of behavior cannot
be tolerated anywhere.
1905
01:27:31,677 --> 01:27:33,973
- First of all, I think
that cultural change
1906
01:27:33,973 --> 01:27:38,601
is always difficult but we
continue to move forward,
1907
01:27:38,601 --> 01:27:40,793
not withstanding
forces that would like
1908
01:27:40,793 --> 01:27:43,193
to move us backwards,
1909
01:27:43,193 --> 01:27:47,125
women have understood the
truth about sexual harassment
1910
01:27:47,125 --> 01:27:50,953
and abuse for generations,
1911
01:27:50,953 --> 01:27:54,432
but the freedom to speak
out and be believed
1912
01:27:54,432 --> 01:27:58,155
and be heard is so important
1913
01:27:58,155 --> 01:28:01,738
and I believe there's a shift
1914
01:28:01,738 --> 01:28:05,426
and I think that
from below the line
1915
01:28:05,426 --> 01:28:08,418
to above the line,
there's a recognition
1916
01:28:08,418 --> 01:28:12,523
that we wanna provide
access and opportunity
1917
01:28:12,523 --> 01:28:17,048
not to be generous but
because if you open the door,
1918
01:28:17,048 --> 01:28:22,266
the stories are
robust and diverse
1919
01:28:23,483 --> 01:28:28,321
and different and that
we all have a right
1920
01:28:29,085 --> 01:28:30,059
to do what we love.
1921
01:28:57,128 --> 01:28:58,729
- People believe in you
1922
01:29:01,268 --> 01:29:03,217
and it's not been fair
1923
01:29:03,217 --> 01:29:05,443
that you've used the power,
1924
01:29:05,443 --> 01:29:09,967
the gift that you have,
you've turned it into such
1925
01:29:09,967 --> 01:29:13,412
a corruption to take
advantage of other people.
1926
01:29:14,873 --> 01:29:16,925
- I had kind of
created a safeguard
1927
01:29:16,925 --> 01:29:19,500
of how I could avoid
those situations
1928
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:24,719
and I never was in a hotel
room with him alone again.
1929
01:29:25,937 --> 01:29:27,571
- You're meeting with
a very powerful guy
1930
01:29:27,571 --> 01:29:31,503
in Hollywood that makes a lot
of actress's careers happen,
1931
01:29:31,503 --> 01:29:34,079
so when he said to
go to the Peninsula,
1932
01:29:34,079 --> 01:29:37,905
I just thought, "That's
a bar, so fine."
1933
01:29:37,905 --> 01:29:40,446
So we met at the bar there,
1934
01:29:40,446 --> 01:29:42,358
and we talked for a few minutes
1935
01:29:42,358 --> 01:29:43,890
and then he didn't
really ask me,
1936
01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:47,264
he just said, "We're going
upstairs to my room."
1937
01:29:47,264 --> 01:29:49,665
And I didn't really
know how to take that.
1938
01:29:49,665 --> 01:29:54,814
I didn't know how to say
no to someone like him
1939
01:29:55,719 --> 01:29:57,494
at the time, which I regret.
1940
01:29:58,467 --> 01:29:59,790
- The next thing I knew,
1941
01:30:01,286 --> 01:30:05,497
he had unzipped his fly
and pulled out his penis.
1942
01:30:07,793 --> 01:30:10,506
My heart started pounding.
1943
01:30:12,245 --> 01:30:14,055
My mind started racing.
1944
01:30:15,064 --> 01:30:17,221
How do I deal with this?
1945
01:30:17,221 --> 01:30:19,204
How do I get out of this?
1946
01:30:19,204 --> 01:30:21,258
Am I going to get out of this?
1947
01:30:22,197 --> 01:30:24,109
How is this happening?
1948
01:30:24,109 --> 01:30:27,137
He then grabbed my hand
and pulled me towards him
1949
01:30:28,598 --> 01:30:31,868
and forced my hand onto his
penis and held it there.
1950
01:30:33,922 --> 01:30:38,167
He said, "Name anyone, any
actress you can think of
1951
01:30:38,167 --> 01:30:39,871
"and this is how they made it."
1952
01:30:41,298 --> 01:30:43,142
I have told parts of this story
1953
01:30:43,142 --> 01:30:47,144
to only a very few
people over the years.
1954
01:30:50,761 --> 01:30:52,848
I felt so powerless
1955
01:30:54,101 --> 01:30:57,128
because he is, after
all, very powerful
1956
01:30:59,042 --> 01:31:03,252
and very well known
and very successful.
1957
01:31:06,313 --> 01:31:09,063
I didn't think anyone
would believe me.
1958
01:31:10,176 --> 01:31:11,045
I was nobody.
1959
01:31:13,238 --> 01:31:14,107
Why would they?
1960
01:31:16,925 --> 01:31:19,501
- I would not have wanted
anyone to do that to me,
1961
01:31:19,501 --> 01:31:22,701
even if the person had
been a romantic partner.
1962
01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:28,895
- We need justice
for these victims.
1963
01:31:30,216 --> 01:31:32,965
As soon as Mr. Weinstein
completes his therapy
1964
01:31:32,965 --> 01:31:36,306
and returns to either
New York or Los Angeles,
1965
01:31:36,306 --> 01:31:40,131
we urge him or his
representatives
1966
01:31:40,131 --> 01:31:43,612
to contact me to discuss
our plan for justice
1967
01:31:43,612 --> 01:31:44,690
for victims.
1968
01:31:45,977 --> 01:31:49,421
Vague apologies are not enough.
1969
01:31:50,673 --> 01:31:52,518
- UK police
are now investigating
1970
01:31:52,518 --> 01:31:55,267
allegations made by 10
women against producer
1971
01:31:55,267 --> 01:31:56,902
Harvey Weinstein,
1972
01:31:56,902 --> 01:31:59,338
so as more and more people
bravely come forward
1973
01:31:59,338 --> 01:32:00,764
with their own stories,
1974
01:32:00,764 --> 01:32:02,886
more and more powerful
men in the industry
1975
01:32:02,886 --> 01:32:04,278
are beginning to fall
1976
01:32:04,278 --> 01:32:07,653
as their misconduct
is being exposed.
1977
01:32:07,653 --> 01:32:12,246
Kevin Spacey, Louis
CK, Ed Westwick,
1978
01:32:12,246 --> 01:32:16,768
Dustin Hoffman, James
Toback, Woody Allen,
1979
01:32:16,768 --> 01:32:18,404
Roman Polanski,
1980
01:32:18,404 --> 01:32:21,223
no longer can the
industry tolerate
1981
01:32:21,223 --> 01:32:23,101
this kind of behavior.
1982
01:32:23,101 --> 01:32:26,162
The truth is out and
it is being heard.
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