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I'm Luke Skywalker. I'm here to rescue you.
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It is the most popular
space adventure of all time.
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Exciting is haunted
the word I would choose.
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It's one of the most groundbreaking
sagas in Hollywood history.
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You want to stop us this time?
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It captured imaginations
with an irresistible force.
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You've taken your first
step into a larger world.
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And catapulted three young
performers to superstar them.
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I got him! Great kid! Don't get cocky!
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My whole life was
changed by the opportunities
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that came to me through
the success of Star Wars.
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It really is a wonderful morality tale.
I'll never turn to the dark side.
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It's George's vision and he truly
is a visual man in a profound way.
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But the Star Wars trilogy didn't just
change the way we look at movies.
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It changed the way that movies are made.
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You're rushed under what you have been.
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There's so many accomplishments
that George has done
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that really has changed
the business as we know it.
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We did it!
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What began as a
galactic fairy tale became a
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success story beyond
one man's wildest dreams.
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The Force will be with you. Almost.
I expect it not to ever make a hit movie.
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That wasn't my agenda. I certainly didn't
expect Star Wars to be this giant hit.
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But it became such a phenomena.
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It's hard to remember
a time before Star Wars.
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The world was different then.
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There were no cell phones
or personal computers.
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The internet was years away.
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Even home video had yet to catch on.
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The space race was over.
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What? All that for man.
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Americans felt deeply mired in the present.
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It was a time of economic
inflation and rising oil prices.
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And the nation had grown cynical
about its heroes and its leaders.
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Well I'm not a crook.
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In our country Watergate Torah support.
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And then we have the
Vietnam War on top of that,
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which for dividing the
nation like nothing else had.
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It was a terrible decade of great
storm and violence in our history.
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On the big screen Hollywood's
view was equally grim.
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The films of the early 1970s
were gritty and often downbeat.
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A reflection of America's
social and political upheaval.
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Instead of old-fashioned
heroes, the screen was dominated
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by hard-nosed anti-heroes
who broke all the rules.
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In the late '60s, the Warner's,
the Xanax, all the people
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who started the studios in
the first place were retiring.
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And they were selling
the studios to corporations.
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They were beverage companies and all kinds
of other, they were in other businesses.
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They didn't know at all
how to run a movie studio.
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All they know is if the
marketing department
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said people want to see
this and you make that.
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So they started marketing
pictures and studying
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the demographics and
all these kinds of things.
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And they realized that
there was a market for
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films made by young
people for young people.
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The young person was becoming
a bigger part of their market.
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The studio system that lasted
for decades had now collapsed.
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And Hollywood executives, desperate
to connect with younger audiences,
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turned to film schools to find the
next generation of movie makers.
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Action!
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It was in this atmosphere of change that gifted
young directors like Francis Ford Coppola, Brian
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DiPoma, Martin Scorsese, and Steven Spielberg
brought a more personal sensibility to the screen.
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It was a state of confusion and
a lot of filmmakers got to make
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projects that they ordinarily
wouldn't have gotten to make.
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And I got caught right in the middle of it.
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George was the kind of maverick from
Northern California, an independent filmmaker
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who was always extremely proud that
he had very few attachments to Hollywood.
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Born in Modesto, California,
George Lucas grew up reading
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adventure stories and watching
movie serials on television.
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But it wasn't until college that his own
dreams of filmmaking began to surface.
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In 1963, he left Modesto
to attend film classes
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at the University of
Southern California.
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I was teaching at USC, and
George was in one of the seminars.
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We talked about some of his
early attempts at filmmaking.
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And I'll tell you right from the
beginning, George had a unique vision.
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George was a guy that
thought out of the box, as
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you can certainly see by
his student film THX-1138.
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And he shot a film that was 20 minutes
long, supposed to be five minutes.
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But he got a great deal of recognition
and openly eyes of the professors that
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kids could do something out of the
box beyond what the restrictions were.
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Lucas won a claim for his technical
skills and imagination as a storyteller.
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His interest in mythology and philosophy
gave his work an added dimension.
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George's style was fantastic.
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Incredible.
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I don't care what he was doing.
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It just looked more personal
than some of the other work.
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After graduating from USC, Lucas joined
his friend Francis Ford Coppola in San
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Francisco, where in 1969 Coppola founded
American Zoetrope, an independent film company.
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I came up with no intention of actually becoming
successful, but I did have a very strong
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feeling about being able to be in control of
my work and not having people tamper with it.
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In 1971, Lucas directed THX-1138, a
theatrical feature based on his student film.
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But when Warner Brothers executives saw
the finished product, they demanded Coppola
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return the $300,000 the studio had
advanced to develop THX and other projects.
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The fledgling company imploded,
and Lucas had defined work elsewhere.
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He decided to take
matters into his own hands
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and start his own
company, Lucasfilm Ltd.
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For his first project under this
new banner, Lucas chose American
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Graffiti, an affectionate look at
teenage cruising in the early 1960s.
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"I'm already dead,
we'll get Ben Turkey.
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" Produced by Universal
Studios, it was loosely based on his
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own experiences as a car
enthusiast growing up in Modesto.
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"I had gone from being extremely
experimental and hard-edged,
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and then really taking up a
challenge that Francis gave me.
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I bet you can't do it
out just a silly comedy,
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kind of warm and fuzzy
comedy, so I'll try that.
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" The film was shot in just 28
days for under a million dollars.
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Coppreducing was another
USC alumnus, Gary Kurtz.
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Toward the end of the
post-production on American Graffiti, we
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organized a screening at the
North Point Cinema in San Francisco.
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And we felt the reaction to
the film was quite positive.
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But Ned Tennant from
Universal was very upset.
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He said you shouldn't be
showing it to an audience
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at this stage, and we
were totally flabbergasted.
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"My first film I didn't
understand, and I meld with it
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after it was all finished, same
thing with my second film.
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The corporate entity came in, and
Jerry rigged with it, cut five minutes out.
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" But even before the
release of American Graffiti,
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George Lucas' imagination
was pointed at the stars.
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All during this time, he was
talking about the fact that he
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would like to do a flash cord
in kind of 1930's space opera.
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And he started working on that interest.
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And people said, "All things to pick,
why in the world would you do that?"
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They said, "Well, you know, it's
fun to make films for young people.
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It's a chance to sort of
make an impression on them.
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" I want to do this.
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With his galactic fairy tale, Lucas
hoped to reinvent a classic genre.
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Among his influences were the writings
of scholar and educator Joseph Campbell,
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in which he explored the origins
of myth and world religions.
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When Lucas was writing
the script of Star Wars,
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he was heavily interested
in Joseph Campbell.
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What Joseph Campbell was
interested in was to see the
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connections between myths,
the myths of different cultures,
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to try to find out what
were the threads that
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tied all these very
disparate cultures together.
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I did research to try to distill everything
down into motifs that would be universal.
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I attribute most the
success to the psychological
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underpinnings which have been
around for thousands of years,
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and the people still react the same
way to the stories as they always have.
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George is nothing if not a good reporter.
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And when he sets out
to do his work, he starts
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reporting from the best
sources he can gather.
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He brought Campbell into the process of
looking at his work on Star Wars and saying,
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"Is this right? Am I getting it down?
Is this the right emphasis?
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This is the right character.
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" Joseph Campbell said to me, "The
best dude he ever had was George Lucas.
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" Like such epics as the Odyssey,
Beowulf, and the legend of King Arthur.
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Star Wars drew from a shared
pool of mythic archetypes.
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You have the youth who's on the
adventure that you can identify with.
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You have the swashbuckler,
and you have the damsel.
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She may not sort of have the
reactions that are conventional.
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However, she is in distress.
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And you have the wise
old man who you go and you
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find him and you have
the funnier characters.
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I mean, it really adheres
strictly to that form.
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It's a traditional ritualistic
coming of age story.
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And when I went into
the mythological side
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of what I wanted to
do, that's a key factor.
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With heroes.
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By the summer of 1973,
George Lucas had created a
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treatment that he felt
was ready to shop around.
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Whether anyone would be
interested, that was another story.
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Most successful science
fiction film at that point was 2001.
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And successful then was that it made
about $24 million or something like that.
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Most hit science fiction films
would make about $16 million.
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Which was the plan of the
apes films and that sort of thing.
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But most science fiction films
would make under $10 million.
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I mean, there's no reason to
think that it would do any different.
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Star Wars was more space
fantasy than science fiction.
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But its galactic setting
made it a tough sell in 1973.
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When I was pitching the film, all I
had was like a 14 page story treatment.
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It was very vague.
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So it's kind of a 1930s action
adventure Saturday afternoon surreal
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based on the kind of flash Gordon
Buck Rogers comic book future.
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And that's about all I knew about it.
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In the 70s, science fiction
seemed to be all about
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apocalyptic societies
and death and destruction.
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Not very inspiring.
So we were fighting an
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uphill battle with the
science fiction project.
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George Lucas brought Star Wars
to Universal and United Artists.
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Both studios passed on the project.
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But the ambitious young
filmmaker was secretly relieved.
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The last thing he wanted was to hand
his dream project to the wrong people.
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He didn't care for the studio system.
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He used it because there was no
other way of doing what he needed to do.
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Undaunted, Lucas presented
Star Wars to Alan Lad Jr.
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The new head of Creative
Affairs at 20th Century Fox.
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Lad, a former producer,
was able to recognize
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potential in the filmmaker
if not necessarily the film.
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We had a meeting.
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And George said, well,
I've been thinking about
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this thing called Star
Wars and told me about it.
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I said, that sounds terrific.
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I mean, the technology part of the
whole thing was completely over my head.
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But I just believed in
him, and it's genius.
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I sort of recognized off of Barack
Graffiti that he really was a genius.
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So I just flew with it.
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He understood what talent was.
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He was respected talent.
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And he was able to say,
I think this guy's talented.
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I think we're going to invest in him.
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So Alan Lad Jr. invested in me.
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He did not invest in
the movie and paid off.
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In 1973, Lad's investment in
George, Lucas proved justified.
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American Graffiti was finally
released to rave reviews
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and became the third
highest-grossing picture of the year.
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It went on to earn more
than $100 million worldwide.
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American Graffiti showed a very
human center and a huge heart.
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The George has always had, by the way.
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And I think that surprised a lot of people.
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With a preliminary deal
for Star Wars in place,
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Lucas began writing
his screenplay in 1974.
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It proved more ambitious
than he had first imagined.
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The filmmaker was able to
distill his idea down to its essence.
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An epic battle between a heroic Rebel
Alliance and an evil galactic empire.
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The chief villain, Darth Vader,
was there practically from the start.
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But it took time to come
up with Star Wars 3 main
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heroes, a plucky young
princess named Leia Organa.
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The fearless Correlian
smuggler, known as Han Solo.
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And most important, an idealistic farm boy,
whose original name was Luke Starkiller.
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Over the course of his adventure,
Luke trains to become a Jedi Knight,
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deriving his power from a
mystical energy known as the Force.
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But along the way, the script
went through radical changes.
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At one point, Luke was a 60-year-old general,
and Han Solo at green skin and gills.
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Even the concept of the Force
had yet to be fully realized.
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Instead, there was the Kyber
Crystal, a sort of galactic holy grail.
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The concept of the Force was
an important one in the story.
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And the difficulty is
trying to create a religious
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spiritual concept that
works in a very simple way,
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without heavy exposition or without
it seeming to pull down the story.
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It got to be a very
fast script, about 200
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pages, and the story
had gotten away from me.
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So the only way I
could cope with it was to
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say, I'll take the
first third, the first act,
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and I'll make that into a movie.
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But I'd written all this of this stuff.
I'd spent a year writing this story.
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And I said, well, I'm not going to
just throw away two-thirds of my year,
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and say, this is all I
can afford at this point.
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This is the only amount of money
I'm going to get us to do this one movie.
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So I put it on the shelf, I said, by
hooker by crook, I will finish this movie.
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But Star Wars wouldn't be cheap.
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To get the Fox Board of Directors
to approve the necessary budget.
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Lucas needed something dramatic.
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He hired Ralph Macquarie, a conceptual
design artist who had worked for Boeing.
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I'd seen some of his paintings,
and I thought he was really brilliant.
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I'd said, look, I want you to do some
paintings of these scenes that I've done,
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so that the studio can get a
picture of what it is I'm talking about.
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When I turned on the
script, I had about five
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or six drawings that I
turned in with it also,
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to say this is what
it's going to look like.
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He had a concept for a big spectacular
visual, and didn't come across in the script.
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So I tried to give it
scale, juxtaposing the tiny
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little figures with the great
spectacular background.
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George would say, don't worry
about how we're going to do it.
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We just want to see an impression of what
the scenes would look like on the screen.
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Macquarie's artwork won
over the Fox Board of Directors,
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who soon approved a
budget of just over $8 million.
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With only the first part
of a Star Wars saga being
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made, Lucas also needed
to think about the future.
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But his prior dealings with major
studios had taught him to be cautious.
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When I made the deal for
Star Wars, originally I made
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the deal before American
graffiti didn't even come out.
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Because I'll let it scene
the film in American graffiti.
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He said, I'll make a deal.
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But he made a very,
you know, you're going to
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make X number of dollars
and this kind of thing.
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And it was a very, like, one-page memo.
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When it came up to doing the contract
for the film, which was about a year later,
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I knew that what I really had to
do was to protect the unwritten part,
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the other two parts of the script.
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All of a sudden graffiti comes out,
and it's a big huge batch success.
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So his agent came back
and said, "Well, hey look,
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this guy has made a
huge successful movie now.
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Don't you think we should
get more of their couple of
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$100,000 for writing, directing,
and producing a movie?"
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I said, "Yeah, I think
you should get more.
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" I was very careful to say,
"I don't want more money, I
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don't want more points, I
don't want anything financial.
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" But I do want the right
to make these sequels.
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I was working on the
assumption, as every filmmaker
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works on, which is the
film would be a disaster,
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and that it won't be promoted
in, it'll just die a horrible death.
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And it'll be very hard to get
these next two movies made.
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Sure, it's a big slice
of the merchandising.
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Up until that time, merchandising
had been relatively unknown.
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When I took over
the licensing, I simply
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said, "I'm going to be
able to make t-shirts,
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and I'm going to be able to
make posters, and I'm going to
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be able to sell this movie
even though the studio won't.
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" So I managed to get control
of pretty much everything that
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was left over that the
studio didn't really care about.
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George was enormously
faceted, and the studio wasn't
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because they didn't know
that the world was changing.
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George didn't know the world was changing.
I mean, he changed it.
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With his Star Wars contract
completed, George Lucas now
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needed a rebel force up to
the challenge of production.
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In the summer of 1975,
he founded the Visual
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Effects Company,
Industrial Light and Magic.
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There was no special effects
companies in those days, and
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the studio's special effects
department had been disbanded.
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Part of that was because of the
expense, and part of it was that the
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American taste, the culture had
gone toward very realistic looking film.
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We approached the Visual Effects as a grand
experiment, and said, "Can we do this with a lot of
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people who work on architectural models and in
commercials and have never made feature films before?"
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When we were kind of
like a weird kind of fraternity,
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a robotic photography,
that's something like that.
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I mean, this was a big movie for
Fox. We were doing commercials.
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We all dreamed about doing a feature,
and this was like the dream come true.
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So, Star Wars came along
just the perfect time for us.
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We moved into a big, empty
warehouse in Van Eis, right near
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the Van Eis Airport, and
basically started from scratch.
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I mean, it was empty. Early
days used to pocket car inside.
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There was no cam equipment,
no rooms to speak of.
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Supervising at ILM was John
Dijkstra, and effects cameraman
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would work under Douglas
Trumbull on films like Silent Running.
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I was essentially to be responsible for doing the visual effects for
the film. We took the concept of motion control, which is essentially
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an old concept of being able to duplicate camera motion through more
than one pass so that you can generate multiple elements of film.
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And we made it production savvy
by tying it into a computer, which
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was at that point, custom built
microprocessors. There were no PCs.
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He didn't go down by in a PC.
We built them from scratch.
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At the same time, the
camera system was being built.
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Another team began
constructing model spaceships.
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I was one of the early hires. They
had a small art department, and there
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were some concept models made
out of cardboard and model kit pieces.
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There were some
storyboards and some concept
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illustrations that Joe
Johnson had done.
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There were some paintings
that Ralph Macquarie had done.
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Everything came either from
my sketches or Ralph's paintings
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and drawings, and any
input that George might have.
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It wasn't a lot of outside
influences on Star Wars.
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George wanted it to look
like you could actually see the
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rivets so you could see
the logic of how it was made.
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I was originally hired to work
on the Death Star, the 40-foot by,
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what was it, 40 by 80 feet or 40
by 60 feet or something like that.
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Nobody wanted to do the job because you
had to spend a lot of time on your knees.
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Everybody sort of could cross
train and work in different techniques.
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That was different than
the Hollywood system.
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That had very strict sort of union rules.
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But there was no way that this
work could be done that way or no
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way that the Hollywood Indians
could understand what we were doing.
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With pre-production gaining
momentum, Lucas next
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began the process of
casting his galactic opus.
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He shared the audition stage
with his friend Brian DiPoma,
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who was seeking actors for
the Stephen King shocker, Carrie.
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It just happened that we were
both making these movies of
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casting it at the same time as
we decided to combine our efforts.
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I've made movies with very young
people that have no track record.
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So I have to kind of go through
and discover them, pick them,
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and then test them and go
through them and have readings.
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So it takes a long time. I spent probably
six or seven months casting Star Wars.
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And that's a long process to set
a little room and interview people.
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And I interviewed thousands of people.
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In casting the male leads,
Luke Starkiller and Han Solo.
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Lucas looked for individual screen presence
as well as chemistry between performers.
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Oh, it checks out again.
There's no mistake.
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You can't find organic major.
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I found it. It's just not there.
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Oh, I found it. It's just not there.
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What's left of it is contaminated.
That's it there.
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Look at those
radiation readouts.
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It's impossible. I've
never seen anything like it.
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The Empire must have gotten here first.
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The planet has been completely blown away.
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For the pivotal role of
Luke, Lucas needed an actor
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who could project both
intelligence and integrity.
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Well, she's part of the
royal family. They don't get
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anything out of her. She
knows the power of mind control.
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She's part of the royal
family. They won't get any
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information from her. She
knows the art of mind control.
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24-year-old Mark Hamill was
a familiar face on television.
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A newcomer to films, his wholesome,
easygoing manner fit the park perfectly.
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I can remember a line from the screen test,
which I don't think ever will leave me.
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Luke says, but we can't turn back.
Fear is their greatest offense.
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I doubt if the actual security there is
any greater than it was on Apple Eye or
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Solest, and what there is is most likely
directed towards a large scale assault.
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Well, how many more systems have to
get blown away before you have no place
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to hide and are forced to fight?
Don't you realize what's going on? Kid.
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You take the glory and the good intentions.
I'll take the reward.
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The role of Han Solo needed
someone older with a more cynical edge.
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What's that little droid carrying?
It's so blasted important.
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What's the little droid
carrying that's so important?
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Harrison Ford had worked with Lucas
on American Graffiti, but because the
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director initially only wanted new
faces, he was not allowed to audition.
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Where's that guy to sit up to get in there?
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Instead, he was brought in to
feed lines to the other actors.
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I was given sides and asked if I
would help read the other actors.
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It became my task
to explain to the other
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actors who were coming
along just what it was.
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But these sides were meant to be about.
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They're going to follow us,
they'll destroy your hidden bases.
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They'll destroy
the whole system.
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Right, I know the foe, and
they'll bring the Death Star, too.
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This may have been reluctant to
use Ford at first, but the actor won
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him over by giving Han a mix of
mercenary swagger and world weariness.
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Well, what was so clear was what the
idea was of the character relationships.
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Mark was the Calo youth,
and I was the smart ass,
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and we each had a clear
section of turf to explore.
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The planet's totally blown away.
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It would have taken
a thousand ships with
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more firepower and
I've ever seen to do that.
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If the Empire had a new
weapon that could do
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this, I'd know about it.
I'd have heard something.
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Well, you know about it now.
The enemy's on the move, we have much time.
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Well, I brought you here, now what?
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We've got to find the rebels, what
we're carrying belongs to them.
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Their bases are very well-hidden, son.
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The whole all the power of the Empire
can't find them. You know where they are?
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Well, I'm not going to take you on
our impossible chase across the galaxy.
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Virtually every young actress in Hollywood
tried out for the part of Princess Leia.
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Although the character was the
same age as Luke, as a leader of the
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rebellion, Leia needed to project
a confidence beyond her years.
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The plans and specifications
to a battle station
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with enough firepower to
destroy an entire system.
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Our only hope in destroying
it is to find its weakness,
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which we will determine from
the data I stored in our two.
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Now, our only hope in
destroying it is to find its
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weakness, which we'll do
from the data I stored in our two.
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Okay? Now, we captured the plans in a raid
on the Imperial Shipyards, but we fell under
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attack before I could get the data to safety
so I hit it in our two and send them on.
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When our two has been
safely delivered to my
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forces, you get your award.
You have my guarantee.
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What's the little droid carrying
that's so blasted and important?
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The plans and specifications
to a battle station
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with enough firepower to
destroy an entire system.
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One actress in particular seemed
tailor-made to play a princess.
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As the daughter of actress
Debbie Reynolds and singer Eddie
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Fisher, Carrie Fisher, was the
product of Hollywood royalty.
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She had no trouble conveying the
self-assurance needed for Leia Organa.
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I met with Brian DiPamla
and George, and Brian did
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all the talking, because
George didn't talk then.
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There were incredible actresses
that were my age that were being
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considered for this role,
so I didn't think I would get it.
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But our only hope is to
destroy it before it destroys us.
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Hiding is useless now.
With the Death Star, they'll
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continue to go on destroying
systems until they found us.
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I'll turn it over to process the information
and use it while there's still time.
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I got it with the proviso that I went to
a fat farm, and that I lose ten pounds.
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I think they were hoping it was
going to come out five year and five
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year, and my character was
someone who was feisty and all of that.
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But I felt myself to be a bit
of that too, so it would have
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been unlikely that I would
be cast as a shrinking violet.
441
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
He cast us to type in a way.
442
00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:39,550
Lucas' decision to hire unknowns
went against the advice of his friend
443
00:29:39,574 --> 00:29:43,977
Francis Ford Coppola, who had cast
the godfather with stage and screen stars.
444
00:29:44,001 --> 00:29:49,000
20th century Fox was also concerned
about Lucas' choice of actors.
445
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:54,000
He came and said these are the three
unknown people that I want to go with.
446
00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:01,430
Every time we gone down this far on the
road, he knows what he's doing. I'd be lying
447
00:30:01,454 --> 00:30:07,000
if I said, "Oh, my god, Harrison's perfect,
it carries perfect, and Mark is fantastic.
448
00:30:07,025 --> 00:30:10,000
" Now, I was very
nervous about the cast.
449
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:14,207
For the important role of Aja
Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi,
450
00:30:14,231 --> 00:30:17,977
Lucas recognized that he
needed an established star.
451
00:30:18,001 --> 00:30:24,000
Sir Alec Guinness was a veteran of
over 40 films, and at one at Oscar in 1958,
452
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,251
for his performance in the
bridge on the River Choir.
453
00:30:28,275 --> 00:30:32,000
The knighted actor had the
pedigree and the persona.
454
00:30:32,350 --> 00:30:37,754
The Alec Guinness role required a certain
stability in gravitas as a character,
455
00:30:37,778 --> 00:30:42,977
which meant we needed a very, very
strong character actor to play that part.
456
00:30:43,001 --> 00:30:46,911
Signing Guinness was a major
coup, but more casting would be
457
00:30:46,935 --> 00:30:51,000
done in London, where Star
Wars would be principally produced.
458
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,413
Unlike Lucas' home base of Northern
California, London provided access
459
00:30:56,437 --> 00:31:01,000
to the kind of massive sound stages
needed for Star Wars ambitious sets.
460
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,977
The location also gave Lucas access
to Britain's top production talents.
461
00:31:06,001 --> 00:31:16,000
The character of Darth Vader demanded
someone of commanding physical stature.
462
00:31:17,025 --> 00:31:22,626
To fill Vader's boots, Lucas cast champion
bodybuilder, David Prouse, whose resume
463
00:31:22,650 --> 00:31:28,000
included roles like Frankenstein's
creature in Hammer's popular horror movies.
464
00:31:28,650 --> 00:31:32,337
As Vader's evil accomplice,
Governor Tarkin, another
465
00:31:32,361 --> 00:31:35,977
hammer alumnus was cast,
63-year-old Peter Cushing.
466
00:31:36,001 --> 00:31:40,570
Best known as the methodical professor
Van Helsing in Dracula, Cushing was
467
00:31:40,594 --> 00:31:45,074
the perfect choice to portray the
Death Star's icy chief administrator.
468
00:31:46,050 --> 00:31:50,645
For the part of Chewbacca, Han
Solo's towering, wookie co-pilot,
469
00:31:50,669 --> 00:31:54,977
Lucas and Kurtz had to look
outside normal casting channels.
470
00:31:55,001 --> 00:31:58,885
But at seven feet three inches
tall, it was no stretch for Peter
471
00:31:58,909 --> 00:32:02,977
Mayhew, who had been working
as an orderly at a Yorkshire hospital.
472
00:32:03,001 --> 00:32:09,000
I sat down on one of his
hovers waiting for George.
473
00:32:10,750 --> 00:32:17,000
Dor opened, and George
walked in with Gary behind him.
474
00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:20,977
So naturally, what did I do?
I've raised an English.
475
00:32:21,001 --> 00:32:25,000
As soon as someone comes
in through the door, I stand up.
476
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:33,000
George goes, hmm, virtually turned
to Gary and said, "I think we found him.
477
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,977
" Finding the right performers to portray
robots was even more of a challenge.
478
00:32:39,001 --> 00:32:42,412
Production designers had
constructed an assortment of
479
00:32:42,436 --> 00:32:46,000
robots and Androids to
populate the Star Wars universe.
480
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:50,977
But it would take living, breathing actors
to give personality to the two main droids.
481
00:32:51,001 --> 00:32:53,977
See 3PO and R2-D2.
482
00:32:54,001 --> 00:32:57,275
To operate R2, Lucas
needed a performer's
483
00:32:57,299 --> 00:33:01,000
small and stature, but
with a big imagination.
484
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,977
To enter 3 foot 5 inch stage
comedian Kenny Baker.
485
00:33:05,001 --> 00:33:08,977
They couldn't find anyone that would
fit inside his robot to make it move.
486
00:33:09,001 --> 00:33:12,977
And they couldn't use kids because it
was quite a heavy machine, you know.
487
00:33:13,001 --> 00:33:14,977
It was worried about 80 pounds.
488
00:33:15,001 --> 00:33:21,000
One of my other experiences of inside
costumes and inside cats and dogs.
489
00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:23,176
And goodness knows what else you know.
490
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,376
So I'm going to go into the robots.
491
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,267
You know, you said,
"Look happy, so I'll go.
492
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,226
" So I know that you can
see my expressions obviously.
493
00:33:33,250 --> 00:33:37,977
But it just, you have to do
something to get the feel of a thing.
494
00:33:38,001 --> 00:33:43,977
Actor Anthony Daniels
not only had the slender
495
00:33:44,001 --> 00:33:45,977
build needed for C3PO,
but training as a mom artist.
496
00:33:46,001 --> 00:33:49,000
He'd been seeing people every five minutes.
497
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,977
I was there for a while and thinking,
"Well, nearly time to go, I guess.
498
00:33:52,001 --> 00:33:56,000
" And then, kind of over
Georgia's shoulder, I saw painting.
499
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,977
And the most extraordinary thing happened.
500
00:33:59,001 --> 00:34:02,521
It just struck me because I
kind of looked at this face.
501
00:34:02,725 --> 00:34:05,001
And the face looked back at me and
we had this extraordinary eye contact.
502
00:34:05,025 --> 00:34:07,176
You know, he's looking
right out of the picture.
503
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,977
And he seemed to be saying,
"Come, come, be with me.
504
00:34:11,001 --> 00:34:14,977
" And the vulnerability in his
face made me want to help him.
505
00:34:15,001 --> 00:34:16,977
Isn't that weird?
506
00:34:17,001 --> 00:34:18,977
He just looks utterly vulnerable.
507
00:34:19,001 --> 00:34:23,161
That painting completely changed
my attitude to the whole project.
508
00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:27,226
Years later, I was able
to go to Ralph Macquarie
509
00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:30,050
and say, "You will.
This is all your fault.
510
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,245
" In March 1976, with
casting completed, George
511
00:34:35,269 --> 00:34:40,000
Lucas and Company
arrived in North Africa.
512
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,746
It was a strange caravan
of British and American
513
00:34:43,770 --> 00:34:50,000
filmmakers working in a French-speaking
nation on a script few people believed in.
514
00:34:51,050 --> 00:34:54,386
The overriding thing
for me, really, at that
515
00:34:54,410 --> 00:34:57,977
stage was the amount
of work that we had to do.
516
00:34:58,001 --> 00:35:01,000
The amount of stuff there was to achieve.
517
00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:03,977
And we had braved out
about getting it done in time.
518
00:35:04,001 --> 00:35:12,000
But the trial by fire had yet to begin.
519
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,000
It was now up to Lucas to make his movie.
520
00:35:15,450 --> 00:35:18,357
Just one day into filming,
De Sohero was pelted
521
00:35:18,381 --> 00:35:21,114
with its first major
rainfall in 50 years.
522
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,977
We were going out there
to shoot on the salt flat.
523
00:35:25,001 --> 00:35:26,930
I came out in the
morning and the rain was
524
00:35:26,954 --> 00:35:29,601
going horizontally
down the street this way.
525
00:35:29,625 --> 00:35:31,305
I thought, "Oh, my God.
526
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:34,977
" I just called the rest day and the
crew told them all to go back to bed
527
00:35:35,001 --> 00:35:37,977
because there was no way
people could shoot on that.
528
00:35:38,001 --> 00:35:42,000
It was the first two weeks of shooting.
529
00:35:42,225 --> 00:35:44,026
We'd run into a lot of weather problems.
530
00:35:44,050 --> 00:35:47,226
The sets had blown down.
I didn't get everything shot.
531
00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:48,977
It was a disaster.
532
00:35:49,001 --> 00:35:51,590
At that point, I was
pretty depressed, saying,
533
00:35:51,614 --> 00:35:54,176
"Boy, I've got myself
in way over my head.
534
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,977
I don't know what
I'm going to do.
535
00:35:56,001 --> 00:35:58,977
" You'll just do what
you'll feel is right of course.
536
00:35:59,001 --> 00:36:04,000
With temperatures topping
100 degrees by mid-morning,
537
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,977
Tunisia was anything but fun in the sun.
538
00:36:07,001 --> 00:36:13,000
Baking for hours in heavy costume, even
the film stunt coordinator Peter Diamond
539
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,977
found the condition physically exhausting.
540
00:36:16,001 --> 00:36:20,000
I was the only stunt person
on the picture in Tunisia.
541
00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:23,000
I became a Tuscan radar or a sand person.
542
00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:28,000
I'm not a son of a merchant.
I don't like the sun. I just burned.
543
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,426
So I just died with a heat of it. I
couldn't stand it anymore if it was so hot.
544
00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:37,546
But there were so many problems.
It just was not a good location.
545
00:36:37,850 --> 00:36:41,050
We seem to be made to suffer.
It's our lot in life.
546
00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:46,977
C-3PO was finally put
together for the very
547
00:36:47,001 --> 00:36:50,000
first time the day before
we started shooting.
548
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,026
R2D2 didn't really function that well.
549
00:36:53,050 --> 00:36:55,977
He could run along in
the three-legged position,
550
00:36:56,001 --> 00:36:59,000
but he couldn't turn his
head at the same time.
551
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Yeah, there was wires everywhere.
552
00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:04,977
And the head was on
a track of ball bearings.
553
00:37:05,001 --> 00:37:07,276
I used to grab whatever
I could grab all of them.
554
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:11,140
Let's turn it physically that
way and that way, not very far.
555
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,977
Because I went too far that the
wires would go around my neck
556
00:37:15,001 --> 00:37:18,073
and then they'd say,
"Cut, right, pray for lunch.
557
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:19,977
" And anybody just
walked away and leave me.
558
00:37:20,001 --> 00:37:21,977
And then they'd remember me, you know.
559
00:37:22,001 --> 00:37:26,000
I'm pretty eventually.
But that never happened many times.
560
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,977
It was bad enough, as putting
on the costume for the first time.
561
00:37:29,001 --> 00:37:31,628
And within two
paces, the left leg had
562
00:37:31,652 --> 00:37:35,000
shattered down onto
the plastic of the left foot
563
00:37:35,075 --> 00:37:39,671
and was gently but
forcibly and persistently
564
00:37:39,695 --> 00:37:44,000
knifing it into the
soft part of my foot.
565
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,000
So we took it off and I
limped the set with one foot.
566
00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:52,000
And it was then I began to
panic about the days to come.
567
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:59,000
As the actors and crew began to
grumble about the adverse conditions,
568
00:37:59,150 --> 00:38:04,000
it was Sir Alec Guinness who served
as a role model of professionalism.
569
00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:07,126
It was for me, fascinating
to watch Alec Guinness.
570
00:38:07,150 --> 00:38:11,977
He was always prepared, always professional,
always very kind to the other actors.
571
00:38:12,001 --> 00:38:16,000
He had a very clear head
about how to serve the story.
572
00:38:16,450 --> 00:38:19,977
He was the person who sort
of brought it some legitimacy.
573
00:38:20,001 --> 00:38:22,601
And I asked him why he wanted to do it.
574
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,977
He loved the idea of playing a
mentor or a wizard in a morality play.
575
00:38:27,001 --> 00:38:30,000
Where a good needle so clearly defined.
576
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:32,977
Excellent!
577
00:38:33,001 --> 00:38:38,000
Three or four seasons?
578
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:40,977
They're up for sale if you want them.
579
00:38:41,001 --> 00:38:44,977
You don't need to see his identification.
580
00:38:45,001 --> 00:38:46,977
I don't need to say that.
581
00:38:47,001 --> 00:38:49,977
These aren't the droids you're looking for.
582
00:38:50,001 --> 00:38:51,977
These aren't the droids we're looking for.
583
00:38:52,001 --> 00:38:53,977
You can go about his business.
584
00:38:54,001 --> 00:38:55,977
You can go about your business.
585
00:38:56,001 --> 00:38:57,977
Overlaw.
586
00:38:58,001 --> 00:39:08,000
Lucas, meanwhile, was up to his neck in
malfunctioning props, electronic breakdowns,
587
00:39:08,350 --> 00:39:11,000
and other production woes.
588
00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:15,000
Star Wars was already
struggling to stay on schedule.
589
00:39:15,575 --> 00:39:18,439
The only silver lining
was that after Tunisia the
590
00:39:18,463 --> 00:39:21,977
production would be moving to
a more controlled environment.
591
00:39:22,001 --> 00:39:25,977
Elsery studios outside London.
592
00:39:26,001 --> 00:39:29,426
The stages at Elsery were
among the largest in the world.
593
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:34,376
And the sets now finished after months
of construction were just as impressive.
594
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,000
And for the first time, the entire
Star Wars cast was together.
595
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:42,401
That was almost like a
whole separate movie.
596
00:39:42,425 --> 00:39:47,000
He was like getting a whole fresh
start, and it was all new, really.
597
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:49,576
We were all very different ages.
598
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:55,000
I was 19, Harrison was 33, and he
was sort of the big man on campus.
599
00:39:55,050 --> 00:40:00,000
And meeting him, you sort of
felt, "Well, he'll be a movie star.
600
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,000
" Costumes, makeup, robots,
and aliens were all ready to go.
601
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:12,000
I put that mask on, and
a chewy transformed me.
602
00:40:12,650 --> 00:40:15,151
I transformed the attitude was different.
603
00:40:15,175 --> 00:40:19,000
The walk was different, chewy turned on.
604
00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:21,030
Do the scenes, come back.
605
00:40:21,350 --> 00:40:24,977
Take the mask off, Peter was back.
606
00:40:25,001 --> 00:40:27,000
Magic?
607
00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:29,070
That old man's mad.
608
00:40:29,825 --> 00:40:31,076
You said it, chewy.
609
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:32,977
Boy, where'd you dig up that old fossil?
610
00:40:33,001 --> 00:40:34,977
And this is a great man.
611
00:40:35,001 --> 00:40:36,977
Yeah, greater than getting us into trouble.
612
00:40:37,001 --> 00:40:39,977
I didn't hear you give any ideas.
613
00:40:40,001 --> 00:40:49,977
But working at Elestry Studios
didn't mean the production
614
00:40:50,001 --> 00:40:53,201
was free from problems, or
strict British Union regulations.
615
00:40:53,225 --> 00:40:59,000
At 530, we had to spot, unless
we were in the middle of a shot.
616
00:40:59,150 --> 00:41:06,000
I could ask the crew for an extra 15
minutes, but they always voted me down.
617
00:41:06,275 --> 00:41:07,523
I'm not putting down
the British crew, but
618
00:41:07,547 --> 00:41:08,977
there was kind of
attitude like, "What is this?"
619
00:41:09,001 --> 00:41:15,000
It didn't help that most of the crew thought
Star Wars was just a children's film.
620
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:19,580
At times, even the actors were hard
pressed to take the work seriously.
621
00:41:19,725 --> 00:41:21,977
Didn't think it would be
any good, whereas I didn't.
622
00:41:22,001 --> 00:41:24,126
I don't want to,
"This is its strange.
623
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:25,977
" And I can remember
this rising man.
624
00:41:26,001 --> 00:41:27,977
He said, "What is all this about?"
625
00:41:28,001 --> 00:41:31,226
He said, "I'll call you a
little rubbish, you know?"
626
00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:34,026
And we all thought it at
the same end of the time.
627
00:41:34,050 --> 00:41:35,977
And it's strange.
628
00:41:36,001 --> 00:41:41,426
It was a princess with their
hair and weird buttons on
629
00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:46,977
the side, and they giant in
a monkey suit or something.
630
00:41:47,001 --> 00:41:49,226
I mean, it was weird.
It was very, very weird.
631
00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:52,076
No more attention.
I'm not getting involved.
632
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,977
Don't you call me a minus the most.
I do have no idea.
633
00:41:55,001 --> 00:41:56,977
Not a grease.
634
00:41:57,001 --> 00:41:59,977
Fine! I'm not
going to regret this.
635
00:42:00,001 --> 00:42:02,176
It was tough dialogue, does they?
636
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,977
So I think I got Governor Tarkin, I
thought I recognized your foul stench,
637
00:42:07,001 --> 00:42:12,000
which, you know, I don't know about
you, but I'm always talking like that.
638
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:17,000
Governor Tarkin, I should have
expected to find you holding Vader's leash.
639
00:42:17,425 --> 00:42:19,977
I recognized your foul stench
when I was both on board.
640
00:42:20,001 --> 00:42:21,977
Charming to the last.
641
00:42:22,001 --> 00:42:26,000
We used to say you can type
this stuff, but you can't say it.
642
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:35,000
George didn't really like being in London,
I suppose, is the best way to say it.
643
00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:36,977
He doesn't like being away from home.
644
00:42:37,001 --> 00:42:39,226
He's not the most
gregarious person in the world.
645
00:42:39,250 --> 00:42:41,977
He had some clashes with the cameraman.
646
00:42:42,001 --> 00:42:46,977
Guiltayler was a very old-school
cameraman, very crotchety.
647
00:42:47,001 --> 00:42:50,046
George, coming out of
low-budget filmmaking,
648
00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:53,000
was used to doing a
lot of things himself.
649
00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:56,977
So George would say things
like, "Well, put a light here.
650
00:42:57,001 --> 00:42:59,977
" And Gil took a fence
at that kind of thing.
651
00:43:00,001 --> 00:43:03,000
He says, "That's
not your job, son.
652
00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:06,455
" You tell me what you
want to see, and I'll do it the
653
00:43:06,479 --> 00:43:09,977
way I think is the best to
create what you want to see.
654
00:43:10,001 --> 00:43:11,977
It was a clash of style of working.
655
00:43:12,001 --> 00:43:14,000
3, 2, 7, take four.
656
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:18,000
We're coming up on all around.
657
00:43:18,025 --> 00:43:21,977
Yeah, I did feel something.
I can almost see the remote.
658
00:43:22,001 --> 00:43:23,001
That's good.
659
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,000
Keep checking your first
step into a larger world.
660
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:34,977
Lucas also became frustrated that the
costumes, sets, and other production elements
661
00:43:35,001 --> 00:43:37,977
weren't living up to
his vision for Star Wars.
662
00:43:38,001 --> 00:43:40,418
The compromises
required due to the film's
663
00:43:40,442 --> 00:43:43,309
budget plagued him
on an almost daily basis.
664
00:43:43,975 --> 00:43:46,526
What was disappointing
would be the cantina sequence.
665
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:49,720
It was really imaginatively
described, and then you
666
00:43:49,744 --> 00:43:53,008
go in there, and it looks
like the nutcracker suite.
667
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:59,000
You know, there's a frog guy and a
mouse girl, and a giant cricket at the bar.
668
00:43:59,250 --> 00:44:02,000
It was just really disappointing.
669
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,977
But, you know, George says, "Don't
worry, we're going to fix all of this.
670
00:44:06,001 --> 00:44:13,000
" We didn't see anything of
what was ended up on the screen.
671
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,101
So, you know, when they blew
my planet up, I was looking at
672
00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:19,201
a guy going like this against
a board with a circle on it.
673
00:44:19,225 --> 00:44:21,000
I mean, it was funny.
674
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:22,977
Proceed with the operation,
you may five and ready.
675
00:44:23,001 --> 00:44:24,001
What?
676
00:44:24,475 --> 00:44:26,977
Dantuan is too remote to
make an effective demonstration.
677
00:44:27,001 --> 00:44:28,977
We will deal with your
rebel friends soon enough.
678
00:44:29,001 --> 00:44:30,001
No.
679
00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:34,000
Bye.
680
00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:38,000
And you called yourself humans.
681
00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:40,977
George never talked.
682
00:44:41,001 --> 00:44:43,448
It was sort of, we felt
he wanted to hit our
683
00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:46,372
marks and magically
accommodate our dialogue.
684
00:44:46,525 --> 00:44:48,076
And he lost his voice at one point.
685
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:50,300
And we didn't know that for days.
686
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,977
And we wanted to get him a little board
where it said, "Faster and more intense.
687
00:44:55,001 --> 00:44:56,977
" That was his main direction.
688
00:44:57,001 --> 00:45:00,000
He just wanted us to speed through it.
689
00:45:00,450 --> 00:45:02,754
George is notorious
for saying, after taking
690
00:45:02,778 --> 00:45:05,445
a dirt again, "Faster
and more intensity.
691
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:08,977
" He certainly said to me, "It was
terrific, Tony can you do it again faster.
692
00:45:09,001 --> 00:45:09,977
" But that's it.
693
00:45:10,001 --> 00:45:10,977
I didn't get more intensity.
694
00:45:11,001 --> 00:45:14,176
I didn't think three people with more
intensity would be bearable to you.
695
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:14,977
Hmm.
696
00:45:15,001 --> 00:45:17,977
I said all systems have
been a dirtier presence.
697
00:45:18,001 --> 00:45:21,009
A main entry seems to
be the only way in or out.
698
00:45:21,250 --> 00:45:23,801
We all had to fill in a lot of the blanks.
699
00:45:23,825 --> 00:45:25,977
It was more a matter of if we
did something he didn't like.
700
00:45:26,001 --> 00:45:31,000
He'd tell us rather than
telling us what to do.
701
00:45:31,350 --> 00:45:32,977
I think George likes people.
702
00:45:33,001 --> 00:45:36,000
I think George is a warm-hearted person.
703
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:42,000
But he is all impatient with the
process of acting, of finding something.
704
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:43,977
And he thinks it's there.
705
00:45:44,001 --> 00:45:44,977
It's right there.
706
00:45:45,001 --> 00:45:45,977
I wrote it there.
707
00:45:46,001 --> 00:45:49,000
You know, just do that.
708
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:53,000
Sometimes you can't just
do that and make it work.
709
00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:56,126
He's really focused on what he's
trying to do and get everything right.
710
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:59,101
It's just a smoke ride
and the squibs go off right.
711
00:45:59,125 --> 00:46:03,000
And we're just tossing him mercilessly.
712
00:46:04,050 --> 00:46:06,977
Carrie Mark have wicked sense of humor.
713
00:46:07,001 --> 00:46:09,000
Carrie was very young.
714
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:11,000
Mark was very young.
715
00:46:11,050 --> 00:46:13,250
So they were the junior division.
716
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:15,977
And they were always lurking about onset.
717
00:46:16,001 --> 00:46:18,977
So it kept us in stitches.
718
00:46:19,001 --> 00:46:22,000
I got one outfit for the first movie.
719
00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:25,977
And as George taught me,
there is no underwear in space.
720
00:46:26,001 --> 00:46:30,000
Instead of that, there is a gaffer tape.
721
00:46:30,850 --> 00:46:33,000
So I was taped down.
722
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,977
And I used to say we
should just make up a contest
723
00:46:37,001 --> 00:46:40,000
on the call sheet
who's going to rip it off.
724
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:41,977
But we didn't do that.
725
00:46:42,001 --> 00:46:46,000
We were all goofing around
and trying to make George crack.
726
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:49,326
Because he really looked like
he was ready to burst into tears.
727
00:46:49,350 --> 00:46:51,283
And he tried to cheer him up.
728
00:46:57,250 --> 00:47:03,977
The mic was in picture.
729
00:47:04,001 --> 00:47:11,000
The mic was in picture.
730
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,977
The mic was in picture.
731
00:47:16,001 --> 00:47:21,000
That to him was really inappropriate.
732
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,076
Who am I at the time
because I'm sure he's in
733
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,076
the zone and he's seeing
what he wants to do.
734
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:30,000
And we're just like actors trying to
stave off boredom because, you know,
735
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:32,977
we've been in the trash
compactor all morning.
736
00:47:33,001 --> 00:47:34,126
Ready? I'm not sure.
737
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:36,977
What happened? I don't know.
738
00:47:37,001 --> 00:47:40,977
It just disappeared.
739
00:47:41,001 --> 00:47:44,000
I got a really bad feeling about this.
740
00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:47,977
But it is amazing what you can do when you
have a vision, when you have an ambition.
741
00:47:48,001 --> 00:47:52,977
And when you can bend
other people's will to your desire.
742
00:47:53,001 --> 00:47:57,243
And the thing that kept it
focused towards the ambitions
743
00:47:57,267 --> 00:48:00,977
was George's vision and
his passion for the idea.
744
00:48:01,001 --> 00:48:03,887
Perhaps the most memorable
stunt in Star Wars was
745
00:48:03,911 --> 00:48:06,977
actually performed by Mark
Hamill and Carrie Fisher.
746
00:48:07,001 --> 00:48:13,000
The nick of time escape of Luke and Leia
across a yawning chasm in the Death Star.
747
00:48:13,125 --> 00:48:16,226
Mark Hamill ought to do
as much as he could himself.
748
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:19,977
At a time when I had to keep him back
because he was too enthusiastic, actually.
749
00:48:20,001 --> 00:48:21,076
He could have got hurt.
750
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,977
Princess Leia and Luke
Skywalker had to three of his boy.
751
00:48:24,001 --> 00:48:25,126
We couldn't have forced stunt doubles.
752
00:48:25,150 --> 00:48:27,977
So I said to George, well I can
teach them to do this and be quite safe.
753
00:48:28,001 --> 00:48:31,977
My buddy and I, we put the
harnesses on, we put the wires on.
754
00:48:32,001 --> 00:48:34,047
Everyone down below,
because remember we are
755
00:48:34,071 --> 00:48:35,977
about 20 meters up,
looking down on them.
756
00:48:36,001 --> 00:48:36,977
Right?
757
00:48:37,001 --> 00:48:40,977
And as we was flying across,
there was a ton of a tear.
758
00:48:41,001 --> 00:48:44,977
And my buddy said to me, Peter,
your harness is snapped at Mark.
759
00:48:45,001 --> 00:48:47,226
He said, "I'm not going,
and that's too dangerous.
760
00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:49,451
" And this is where I discovered
you had to be a good liar.
761
00:48:49,475 --> 00:48:50,977
And I said, "No, there's
nothing wrong with the harness.
762
00:48:51,001 --> 00:48:53,268
" I split my trousers
and I landed.
763
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:55,226
He said, "Oh, I thought
it was the harness.
764
00:48:55,250 --> 00:48:57,977
" I said, "Mark, I wouldn't let you
go when this, if it was dangerous.
765
00:48:58,001 --> 00:49:07,977
" You know, they did it as you know,
one take, and that's how we got it.
766
00:49:08,001 --> 00:49:17,000
That was really early on in the shoot.
767
00:49:17,275 --> 00:49:21,977
When I was still worried about my weight,
and I thought that we were going to miss,
768
00:49:22,001 --> 00:49:27,000
and I hit the wall and they
will say, "That's still too tubby.
769
00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:29,017
Let's bring in Jodie Foster.
770
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:34,977
" Another of Peter Diamond's
tasks was choreographing the
771
00:49:35,001 --> 00:49:39,161
dramatic lightsaber battle between
Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
772
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,560
The con-win does.
773
00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:43,150
My blade should find his mark.
774
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:46,977
He always sees to exist, and I
warn you, if you strike me down,
775
00:49:47,001 --> 00:49:50,977
I should become more powerful,
and you can possibly imagine.
776
00:49:51,001 --> 00:49:56,000
George, he wanted a broad sword tiger
fight with a touch of Japanese behind it,
777
00:49:56,350 --> 00:49:59,426
but instead of becoming
samurai moves with one hand,
778
00:49:59,450 --> 00:50:05,000
I kept it with two hands, so all the
moves were two hands completely like that.
779
00:50:05,325 --> 00:50:07,587
The first swords were
bits of wood, with the
780
00:50:07,611 --> 00:50:10,476
front projection material
wrapped around them.
781
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,176
Now the hardest thing
for me on the first fights,
782
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,977
Darth Vader was a very heavy man.
783
00:50:16,001 --> 00:50:22,000
Obi-Wan Kenobi was a gentleman who
had done some fencing for in the theatre.
784
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:25,977
I had to teach them, if that was
the sword, to stop before the touch,
785
00:50:26,001 --> 00:50:28,977
because the blades were
breaking, we blokes so many blades.
786
00:50:29,001 --> 00:50:31,000
They'll just kept snapping.
787
00:50:39,350 --> 00:50:42,091
Across the Atlantic, Fox's
head of production, Alan Lad Jr.
788
00:50:42,115 --> 00:50:48,000
, continued to offer Lucas his main,
if not his only support from the studio.
789
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:51,126
There was a lot of problems, yes.
790
00:50:51,150 --> 00:50:53,006
I mean, every board,
meaning I attended, I
791
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:54,977
mean, the subject is
always about Star Wars.
792
00:50:55,001 --> 00:50:58,000
Well, it cost for
rising, it's this, it's that.
793
00:50:58,150 --> 00:51:02,977
We've read drafts of scripts
that make no sense to us
794
00:51:03,001 --> 00:51:06,326
in any way, shape or form,
and it was rather unpleasant.
795
00:51:06,350 --> 00:51:09,084
The things that stick in my mind
that made me laugh were like,
796
00:51:09,108 --> 00:51:12,526
"Memos, worry about whether or
not the wokies should have pants.
797
00:51:12,550 --> 00:51:15,977
" They're looking at this thing and saying,
"Couldn't you have some later hos and?"
798
00:51:16,001 --> 00:51:22,000
I thought, "Isn't this great, you
know, of all the things to worry about?"
799
00:51:23,350 --> 00:51:25,030
The wokies has no pants.
800
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:28,977
I think we were like two
weeks over schedule.
801
00:51:29,001 --> 00:51:33,000
At that point, the board of
directors at Fox started to panic,
802
00:51:33,150 --> 00:51:38,000
and tell Alan Lad Jr. that he had
to shut that film down, regardless.
803
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:42,977
And so he came to me and said, "Look,
you've got to finish in the next week.
804
00:51:43,001 --> 00:51:45,585
" Because I got another
board meeting, and I can't
805
00:51:45,609 --> 00:51:47,977
go in there and say,
"We're still shooting.
806
00:51:48,001 --> 00:51:51,001
" I kept going on the phone to
their production department saying,
807
00:51:51,025 --> 00:51:53,489
"This is insane. If we put
on a second crew to do
808
00:51:53,513 --> 00:51:55,977
this, it costs us more
than going an extra week.
809
00:51:56,001 --> 00:51:59,072
" And they said, "It doesn't
matter if the studio's opinion is that
810
00:51:59,096 --> 00:52:01,977
the day deadline is more
important than the money you spent.
811
00:52:02,001 --> 00:52:05,762
" The final scenes were
filmed at breakneck speed, with
812
00:52:05,786 --> 00:52:10,000
Lucas frantically bicycling
from one soundstage to another.
813
00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:14,226
I think George suffered a lot more
than I was aware of at the time,
814
00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:17,977
that I was very focused on what I was
doing as this was a very busy movie.
815
00:52:18,001 --> 00:52:19,977
It was his non-stop, towards the dust.
816
00:52:20,001 --> 00:52:25,000
We did go over at the end, and we
split into three units right at the end
817
00:52:25,225 --> 00:52:27,946
and Gary directed the
second unit, and I had the
818
00:52:27,970 --> 00:52:31,298
distinction of directing
the third unit of Star Wars.
819
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,977
My shots were things like close-up
of R2D, she was third-foot going down.
820
00:52:38,001 --> 00:52:41,026
Nothing too dramatic, but
that's how we finished it.
821
00:52:41,050 --> 00:52:47,000
I'm up.
822
00:52:47,350 --> 00:52:48,977
I hope that all men get the
track that you might have
823
00:52:49,001 --> 00:52:51,977
commissioned, or this is
going to be a real short trip.
824
00:52:52,001 --> 00:52:58,000
Fox originally slated Star Wars
for a Christmas release in 1976.
825
00:52:58,050 --> 00:53:05,977
But the difficult shoot had put
the film severely behind schedule.
826
00:53:06,001 --> 00:53:09,000
Can we just leave this party?
827
00:53:09,150 --> 00:53:13,977
We haven't smoked friends.
828
00:53:14,001 --> 00:53:14,977
Seems okay.
829
00:53:15,001 --> 00:53:15,977
We can get to it.
830
00:53:16,001 --> 00:53:17,977
I just hope the old man got the
track to be in my commission.
831
00:53:18,001 --> 00:53:18,977
Look.
832
00:53:19,001 --> 00:53:20,977
Now there's a chance to go.
833
00:53:21,001 --> 00:53:24,043
With barely six months
to go, there was almost
834
00:53:24,067 --> 00:53:26,977
no chance of delivering
the project on time.
835
00:53:27,001 --> 00:53:30,126
I just finished shooting the
movie, and it was exhausted.
836
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:36,000
Basically, I had to go right from the
shooting into the finishing without a break.
837
00:53:36,375 --> 00:53:39,226
Already anxious about meeting his deadline.
838
00:53:39,250 --> 00:53:43,251
Lucas was shocked when he saw the first
assembly of his edited film that spring.
839
00:53:43,275 --> 00:53:44,977
They're the crotors that lose in cover.
840
00:53:45,001 --> 00:53:46,001
All right.
841
00:53:46,125 --> 00:53:47,977
I'll get it.
842
00:53:48,001 --> 00:53:51,977
The first cut of Star Wars
was an unmitigated disaster.
843
00:53:52,001 --> 00:53:52,977
Rosa!
844
00:53:53,001 --> 00:53:53,977
Yeah, that's not fair.
845
00:53:54,001 --> 00:53:55,977
I'd started to see things cut together.
846
00:53:56,001 --> 00:53:56,977
I wasn't happy with it.
847
00:53:57,001 --> 00:54:00,977
I'd come in on weekends and
I'd re-cut the film on my own.
848
00:54:01,001 --> 00:54:02,001
Great!
849
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:04,977
And I tried to get the
editor cut up my way, and he
850
00:54:05,001 --> 00:54:06,977
didn't really want to, and
so I had to let the editor go.
851
00:54:07,001 --> 00:54:09,000
So I had no editor.
852
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:09,977
I was behind schedule.
853
00:54:10,001 --> 00:54:11,977
I had to race to finish the movie.
854
00:54:12,001 --> 00:54:14,000
177 take two.
855
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,977
Lucas realized his only
hope was to start from scratch.
856
00:54:17,001 --> 00:54:20,977
And I am C-22, human-cycle relations.
857
00:54:21,001 --> 00:54:24,000
And this is my counterpart, R2D.
858
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,000
Oh, hello.
859
00:54:28,050 --> 00:54:31,977
To re-cut the movie, he hired
Paul Hirsch and Richard Chu.
860
00:54:32,001 --> 00:54:35,376
And for several months, he was
able to borrow his wife, Marsha,
861
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,000
who was editing New York,
New York, with Martin Scorsese.
862
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:42,977
250, take seven.
863
00:54:43,001 --> 00:54:44,001
Roger?
864
00:54:44,650 --> 00:54:51,000
You must do what you'll
feel is right, of course.
865
00:54:51,150 --> 00:54:54,000
Right now, I don't feel too good.
866
00:54:54,075 --> 00:54:57,977
On Star Wars, the trio's
first task was to give the
867
00:54:58,001 --> 00:55:00,977
film an energy and pace
that was sorely lacking.
868
00:55:01,001 --> 00:55:05,977
It was cut in a very traditional
manner of just playing things out in
869
00:55:06,001 --> 00:55:13,000
masters and then going into the
coverage and let the actors rhythm dictate
870
00:55:13,150 --> 00:55:18,977
the cuts rather than having the cuts
kind of drive rhythm of the scenes.
871
00:55:19,001 --> 00:55:23,000
210 take three, contract.
872
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,000
Action!
873
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,977
So, there were consequently,
there wasn't any excitement
874
00:55:31,001 --> 00:55:34,176
in the footage the way
that it had been put together.
875
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,326
Richard and I would sort of leapfrog.
876
00:55:36,350 --> 00:55:38,977
If he was on one, I would, a
real one, I would grab real two.
877
00:55:39,001 --> 00:55:44,000
And then when whoever finished
that would grab real three and so forth.
878
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:59,000
We used shots up until the very last frame.
879
00:55:59,250 --> 00:56:04,977
Very often, the very next frame
would be the flash of the camera stop.
880
00:56:05,001 --> 00:56:08,977
For instance, there's a shot of one of
the sand people who knocks Luke down
881
00:56:09,001 --> 00:56:12,977
and then he holds his weapon up
over his head and he just did it once
882
00:56:13,001 --> 00:56:20,000
and he rocked it back and forth
so he did it a number of times.
883
00:56:20,050 --> 00:56:24,000
The only things that are
there is what's presentable
884
00:56:24,625 --> 00:56:28,000
and everything behind
the scenes is the mess.
885
00:56:28,350 --> 00:56:30,977
With no chance of
being ready by Christmas,
886
00:56:31,001 --> 00:56:35,000
a new release date
was set for summer 1977.
887
00:56:35,425 --> 00:56:38,476
Some doubted that the movie
would ever reach theaters.
888
00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:44,000
But as bad as things had been with the
editing, the situation at ILM was even worse.
889
00:56:44,325 --> 00:56:48,226
The company was trying to create
effects that had never been done before.
890
00:56:48,250 --> 00:56:50,226
They knew what they wanted to accomplish
891
00:56:50,250 --> 00:56:53,276
but they had yet to create
anything usable for the film.
892
00:56:53,300 --> 00:56:57,977
They had spent half their budget
and ultimately I had about four shots,
893
00:56:58,001 --> 00:57:01,026
none of which I would
accept they were just not good.
894
00:57:01,050 --> 00:57:04,076
That was a pretty much of a
low point and no special effects
895
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:06,977
and I didn't even know whether we
were going to get the ships to work.
896
00:57:07,001 --> 00:57:10,126
It was a pretty desperate time
and we'd spent half the budget,
897
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:14,000
building the motion control
cameras and setting the shop up
898
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,000
and it was a disaster to say the least.
899
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:21,977
The factory has to
be built before the first
900
00:57:22,001 --> 00:57:24,026
can of peas can be
sent to the supermarket
901
00:57:24,050 --> 00:57:27,977
and I think it was a year or
more without any film coming out
902
00:57:28,001 --> 00:57:31,977
without one shot being finished because
they were building optical printers,
903
00:57:32,001 --> 00:57:35,265
they were building cameras,
we were building models.
904
00:57:35,375 --> 00:57:37,977
I know the George was
disappointed in the work
905
00:57:38,001 --> 00:57:41,000
and I'm disappointed
that he was disappointed
906
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,977
but there's a certain
subjectivity to some of that stuff.
907
00:57:44,001 --> 00:57:50,977
I wish he'd been happier but I also
think that ultimately the work did the job.
908
00:57:51,001 --> 00:58:02,977
When word of the various
post-production problems
909
00:58:03,001 --> 00:58:06,977
reached the Fox Board of
Directors, they decided they'd
910
00:58:07,001 --> 00:58:09,977
had enough of George
Lucas and that science movie.
911
00:58:10,001 --> 00:58:13,137
I just said that when
executive committee meeting,
912
00:58:13,350 --> 00:58:15,026
they were calling me over the call.
913
00:58:15,050 --> 00:58:17,326
They just said it's
greatest picture, right?
914
00:58:17,350 --> 00:58:19,076
That ended the conversation.
915
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:22,977
They were afraid to say, well,
you're stupid and you're wrong
916
00:58:23,001 --> 00:58:27,289
and who are you out of this
building by five o'clock this afternoon?
917
00:58:27,450 --> 00:58:31,977
So, you're a sentence woman's there.
918
00:58:32,001 --> 00:58:36,000
With the dismal early cut
of the film, ILM and Chaos
919
00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:38,176
and growing pressure from the studio,
920
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,977
Lucas was facing almost
unbearable battles on a daily basis.
921
00:58:42,001 --> 00:58:48,000
After an especially tense trip to
ILM, Lucas felt sharp chest pains.
922
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:52,526
Fearing a heart attack, the director
checked into a Marin County hospital,
923
00:58:52,550 --> 00:58:55,576
he was diagnosed with
hypertension and exhaustion
924
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,977
and was warned to reduce his stress level.
925
00:58:58,001 --> 00:59:00,401
At that point I really felt that I'd
926
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:05,026
got myself into a real mess and I didn't
know whether I was going to get it out.
927
00:59:05,050 --> 00:59:08,000
Lucas doubled his
efforts to save Star Wars.
928
00:59:08,350 --> 00:59:10,977
The situation at ILM
required drastic measures
929
00:59:11,001 --> 00:59:15,000
to get the film's crucial
special effects back on track.
930
00:59:15,050 --> 00:59:18,000
Lucas had no choice
but to step in personally.
931
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:20,977
We put a production department
in the special effects company.
932
00:59:21,001 --> 00:59:22,977
I went down there twice a week.
933
00:59:23,001 --> 00:59:25,126
There was a certain
amount of resentment at first
934
00:59:25,150 --> 00:59:32,000
because they felt that they were being
challenged a bit on how they had set it up.
935
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,977
We felt that there was
a certain quasi-hippy
936
00:59:36,001 --> 00:59:38,326
mentality that some of
them had about the schedule.
937
00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:40,977
Ultimately where I guess we
were known as a country club.
938
00:59:41,001 --> 00:59:43,360
I think I'd look to
those guys that there
939
00:59:43,384 --> 00:59:46,176
needed to be a really
strong production force
940
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,000
in there that was going to
meet some sort of quota.
941
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,509
With hundreds of shots left
to be completed, ILM would
942
00:59:56,533 --> 01:00:00,000
have to do a year's worth
of work in just six months.
943
01:00:00,350 --> 01:00:03,977
But Lucas and Kurtz would
determine to turn the situation around.
944
01:00:04,001 --> 01:00:10,977
Gary was a gear hit so he
could understand our problems.
945
01:00:11,001 --> 01:00:14,000
And George is a storyteller.
946
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,226
And so we have to serve his needs because
he's the one that's telling the story.
947
01:00:19,250 --> 01:00:21,977
But we had to build these incredible
contraptions in order to do it.
948
01:00:22,001 --> 01:00:23,977
George was our general.
949
01:00:24,001 --> 01:00:26,977
We're his soldiers and we're
all fighting this single battle.
950
01:00:27,001 --> 01:00:30,977
To get this film out, we're
going on the front lines here.
951
01:00:31,001 --> 01:00:34,126
And that gave us also kind
of a feeling of being special
952
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:38,977
and fighting this great battle to
get this thing done, whatever it is.
953
01:00:39,001 --> 01:00:49,977
To help inspire the effects team at ILM,
954
01:00:50,001 --> 01:00:54,033
Lucas had spliced together aerial
dogfights from old war movies.
955
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,357
That would be like
the first animatic, which
956
01:00:56,381 --> 01:00:58,176
you do all in the
computer now, of course.
957
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,977
And we matched frame to frame and
the action on that as close as we could.
958
01:01:02,001 --> 01:01:07,977
And it was hugely helpful.
959
01:01:08,001 --> 01:01:16,977
To describe that abstract
world of a battle is impossible.
960
01:01:17,001 --> 01:01:20,977
Storyboards don't do it as far as the
pacing, the rhythms that he needed.
961
01:01:21,001 --> 01:01:26,977
That was a great thing.
962
01:01:27,001 --> 01:01:40,000
As fall turned to winter, Star
Wars finally started to take shape.
963
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:48,000
Working from the raw production tracks,
964
01:01:48,250 --> 01:01:51,977
sound designer Ben Bird would
add a critical new layer to the film.
965
01:01:52,001 --> 01:01:54,751
Bird had spent a year
building a catalog of
966
01:01:54,775 --> 01:01:58,000
sounds for things that
didn't exist in our galaxy.
967
01:01:58,250 --> 01:02:04,977
George introduced the idea of
what he called an organic soundtrack.
968
01:02:05,001 --> 01:02:08,554
George thought that
Chewbacca might be made up
969
01:02:08,578 --> 01:02:11,977
from recordings of dogs
or maybe even bears.
970
01:02:12,001 --> 01:02:16,977
In addition, I recorded some lions
and tigers and even some walruses.
971
01:02:17,001 --> 01:02:24,977
I would begin editing them together and
making little phrases out of the noises.
972
01:02:25,001 --> 01:02:26,977
I would take the recordings
to edit the best pieces.
973
01:02:27,001 --> 01:02:32,977
You know, the bear might
make a sound that sounded angry.
974
01:02:33,001 --> 01:02:36,000
Or they might make a sound that was cute.
975
01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:43,977
Or a sound that sounded like a
sentence while walking of a sound.
976
01:02:44,001 --> 01:02:48,834
The voice of R2 turned
out to be the most difficult
977
01:02:48,858 --> 01:02:53,977
problem to solve in a sound
design of the first movie.
978
01:02:54,001 --> 01:02:57,977
Because R2 had to act
alongside of the other actors.
979
01:02:58,001 --> 01:03:02,977
And the script only said that R2
made a sound or maybe R2 beep.
980
01:03:03,001 --> 01:03:06,477
I had a small electronic
synthesizer and I did some
981
01:03:06,501 --> 01:03:10,000
patches with it and made
up some electronic sounds.
982
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,067
But that didn't sound alive.
983
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,157
At one point we talked
about R2's personality and
984
01:03:16,181 --> 01:03:20,000
we felt he was developing
kind of as a toddler.
985
01:03:20,175 --> 01:03:22,977
So I did a lot of baby recordings.
986
01:03:23,001 --> 01:03:26,977
And eventually we found that we
were in the discussion of R2's voice.
987
01:03:27,001 --> 01:03:29,000
We were making the sounds.
988
01:03:29,325 --> 01:03:32,888
A few experiments led
to the combination of
989
01:03:32,912 --> 01:03:37,000
using my voice, doing
baby talk, beeps and boobs.
990
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:42,526
With the electronic synthesizer,
so R2 is sort of 50% machine and
991
01:03:42,550 --> 01:03:48,000
50% organic coming out of, you
know, the performance of a person.
992
01:03:48,550 --> 01:03:53,208
The breeding for Vader
was recorded by putting a little
993
01:03:53,232 --> 01:03:58,000
tiny microphone down inside
a regulator on a scuba tank.
994
01:03:59,025 --> 01:04:04,977
I breathed through the mask
itself and it breathed in and out.
995
01:04:05,001 --> 01:04:09,977
And out of that came the various,
you know, paces of Vader breathing.
996
01:04:10,001 --> 01:04:15,977
And that sound worked
out pretty successfully.
997
01:04:16,001 --> 01:04:21,000
Finding the right voice for Darth
Vader was another challenge.
998
01:04:21,625 --> 01:04:27,977
Lucas had never intended to use the
onset vocal performance of David Prouse.
999
01:04:28,001 --> 01:04:34,588
I can still hear David
Prouse's accent in the Darth
1000
01:04:34,612 --> 01:04:42,000
Vader mask muffled because
he would do the real dialogue.
1001
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:53,000
I'm trying to curse Carrie
Fisher or something.
1002
01:04:53,050 --> 01:04:55,065
It was hilarious and
terrifying at the same time
1003
01:04:55,089 --> 01:04:57,526
because we didn't know
what Darth sound like.
1004
01:04:57,550 --> 01:04:59,026
That was the first time we heard him.
1005
01:04:59,050 --> 01:05:00,050
Is that it?
1006
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:03,826
Is there going to be some
Scottish guy or what is this?
1007
01:05:03,850 --> 01:05:08,433
Prouse's voice would later be replaced
with a more menacing performance
1008
01:05:08,457 --> 01:05:13,000
provided by classically trained
stage and film actor James Earl Jones.
1009
01:05:13,700 --> 01:05:18,867
George had hired David Prouse,
but he said he wanted a so-called
1010
01:05:18,891 --> 01:05:24,000
darker voice and not in terms
of ethnic but in terms of timbre.
1011
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,977
And the rumor is that he
thought of Orson Wells.
1012
01:05:29,001 --> 01:05:33,000
And then probably thought that
Orson might be too recognizable.
1013
01:05:34,050 --> 01:05:37,501
So what he ends up is
picking a voice that was born in
1014
01:05:37,525 --> 01:05:41,000
Mississippi, raised in
Michigan, and was a stuttering.
1015
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:43,977
And that happened to be my voice.
1016
01:05:44,001 --> 01:05:47,001
I want to know what happened
to the plans they sent you.
1017
01:05:47,025 --> 01:05:48,977
I don't know what you're talking about.
1018
01:05:49,001 --> 01:05:51,977
I'm a member of the Imperial Senate
on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.
1019
01:05:52,001 --> 01:05:54,977
You are part of the Rebel
Alliance and a traitor.
1020
01:05:55,001 --> 01:05:56,041
Take it away!
1021
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,977
C-3PO's voice struck us all as, you know,
well, we've got to do something about that.
1022
01:06:01,001 --> 01:06:03,000
Ready for take three?
1023
01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:05,977
It seemed to be made to
suffer its own loss in life.
1024
01:06:06,001 --> 01:06:10,977
It was mentioned a number of times that
C-3PO might sound like a used car salesman.
1025
01:06:11,001 --> 01:06:14,000
Not the English butler type.
1026
01:06:14,250 --> 01:06:23,000
I just came up with this voice
of an over the top British butler.
1027
01:06:23,050 --> 01:06:25,854
British because that would
be my natural mode of
1028
01:06:25,878 --> 01:06:28,977
thinking about the because
that was his role in life.
1029
01:06:29,001 --> 01:06:32,000
Nervous because that
was his feeling in life.
1030
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,000
And it came as C-3PO
human cyborg relations.
1031
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,977
And this is my counterpart, Arton Dieten.
1032
01:06:39,001 --> 01:06:39,977
Hello.
1033
01:06:40,001 --> 01:06:43,360
A few people were brought in
the record and an attempt was
1034
01:06:43,384 --> 01:06:46,977
made to see how C-3PO would
be with different kinds of voices.
1035
01:06:47,001 --> 01:06:48,977
I believe thirty actors coming.
1036
01:06:49,001 --> 01:06:51,226
It's really quite impressive names.
1037
01:06:51,250 --> 01:06:54,977
Stan Freeberg and a few
others were auditioned.
1038
01:06:55,001 --> 01:06:57,863
Apparently one of them
was a major cartoon actor, a
1039
01:06:57,887 --> 01:07:00,977
man of literally a thousand
voices who eventually said,
1040
01:07:01,001 --> 01:07:02,881
"You won't think
something George taught
1041
01:07:02,905 --> 01:07:04,977
this voice is pretty
good for the character.
1042
01:07:05,001 --> 01:07:07,268
Why didn't he just use his voice?"
1043
01:07:07,300 --> 01:07:11,977
And eventually the discussion just quieted
down and it was an excellent performance.
1044
01:07:12,001 --> 01:07:13,977
Synchronized with his body motions.
1045
01:07:14,001 --> 01:07:17,000
It was a total character which he created.
1046
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,326
His track was left in the movement.
1047
01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:21,977
Hey, we don't serve their kind here.
1048
01:07:22,001 --> 01:07:22,977
What? You're a droid.
1049
01:07:23,001 --> 01:07:24,977
They don't have to win outside.
1050
01:07:25,001 --> 01:07:25,977
We don't want them here.
1051
01:07:26,001 --> 01:07:26,977
It's way up by the speeder.
1052
01:07:27,001 --> 01:07:27,977
We don't want them in trouble.
1053
01:07:28,001 --> 01:07:30,176
I ought to be a pretty big upset.
1054
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:37,000
Here we go, cutting the sublighters.
1055
01:07:37,350 --> 01:07:50,977
At long last, the editing sound
and visual effects were taking shape.
1056
01:07:51,001 --> 01:07:54,646
But a private screening of
the film for Lucas' closest
1057
01:07:54,670 --> 01:07:57,977
friends didn't do much
to bolster his confidence.
1058
01:07:58,001 --> 01:08:02,977
It was an early stage,
sort of a second or third cut.
1059
01:08:03,001 --> 01:08:06,000
I had a couple of my
friends come up to see it.
1060
01:08:06,650 --> 01:08:07,977
Brian DiPomo was in town.
1061
01:08:08,001 --> 01:08:08,977
Steven came.
1062
01:08:09,001 --> 01:08:11,268
Some other friends came to see it.
1063
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:14,226
The human characters were
there and the sets were there.
1064
01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:19,638
But of course, all the spectacular,
you know, the Death Star fight and the
1065
01:08:19,662 --> 01:08:25,000
battle inside the trench and all that
was just not even there to be seen.
1066
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,977
So, the reaction was not a good one.
1067
01:08:30,001 --> 01:08:31,001
I loved the movie.
1068
01:08:31,025 --> 01:08:33,977
I was probably one of the only people
in the audience who liked the movie.
1069
01:08:34,001 --> 01:08:34,977
Some of my friends were very honest.
1070
01:08:35,001 --> 01:08:35,977
I don't get it.
1071
01:08:36,001 --> 01:08:38,000
What are you doing here?
1072
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,176
That was basically the
tenor of the whole thing.
1073
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,043
On the other hand, the
studio and Laddie and
1074
01:08:43,067 --> 01:08:45,977
his little group saw
the film, they loved it.
1075
01:08:46,001 --> 01:08:48,554
It's the first time I've
actually shown a film and
1076
01:08:48,578 --> 01:08:51,376
one of the executives
even cried at the screen.
1077
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,977
It was very emotional for me.
1078
01:08:54,001 --> 01:08:58,000
I sat in my family around
the kitchen table in my house.
1079
01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:01,977
And I said, the most extraordinary
day of my life has just taken place.
1080
01:09:02,001 --> 01:09:06,977
I want you to remember this day
because this is what I never dreamed.
1081
01:09:07,001 --> 01:09:10,505
Or maybe I dreamed, but I never
thought I would have a day of
1082
01:09:10,529 --> 01:09:13,977
experience like the day I've
had today and seeing this film.
1083
01:09:14,001 --> 01:09:16,977
You know, and I couldn't even
believe it because I'm used to studios.
1084
01:09:17,001 --> 01:09:19,176
At that point I was used to studio
chief saying, you know, this is terrible.
1085
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,476
You know, you shouldn't show this to
an audience embarrassing like that stuff.
1086
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:24,662
So for me, it was, you
know, a very rewarding thing
1087
01:09:24,686 --> 01:09:27,576
to show it to people, even
though it was in bad shape.
1088
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,977
It didn't help that one critical
element in Star Wars was still missing.
1089
01:09:32,001 --> 01:09:33,977
There's no lock!
1090
01:09:34,001 --> 01:09:36,000
It's a musical score.
1091
01:09:36,150 --> 01:09:38,977
That'll hold it for a while.
1092
01:09:39,001 --> 01:09:39,977
We've got to get across.
1093
01:09:40,001 --> 01:09:41,977
Find the patrols and extend the bridge.
1094
01:09:42,001 --> 01:09:42,977
Look at this glass of it.
1095
01:09:43,001 --> 01:09:44,977
They're coming through!
1096
01:09:45,001 --> 01:09:47,977
I remember we were biking in George Island.
1097
01:09:48,001 --> 01:09:48,977
When can we hear the score?
1098
01:09:49,001 --> 01:09:50,176
When can we hear the score?
1099
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:50,977
What can we hear the score?
1100
01:09:51,001 --> 01:09:54,307
Fortunately, Lucas was
able to recruit one of the
1101
01:09:54,331 --> 01:09:58,000
industry's most accomplished
composers, John Williams.
1102
01:09:58,650 --> 01:10:04,931
Williams had recently won an Oscar for Steven
Spielberg's Jaws, and his resume included countless
1103
01:10:04,955 --> 01:10:10,977
film and television scores, including music for
the original Lost in Space Television series.
1104
01:10:11,001 --> 01:10:15,334
I do remember George talking
about the fact that what we were
1105
01:10:15,358 --> 01:10:19,977
going to see from the film
represents worlds that we hadn't seen.
1106
01:10:20,001 --> 01:10:24,977
But that the music should give us
some kind of an emotional anchor.
1107
01:10:25,001 --> 01:10:29,331
We heard a romantic
melody for Princess Leia,
1108
01:10:29,355 --> 01:10:33,977
we heard Bella Cosm
music for the battle scenes.
1109
01:10:34,001 --> 01:10:41,977
And some very heavy
declamatory thing for Darth Vader.
1110
01:10:42,001 --> 01:10:46,747
In March 1977, John Williams
led the London Symphony
1111
01:10:46,771 --> 01:10:51,977
Orchestra in the performance
of the Star Wars soundtrack.
1112
01:10:52,001 --> 01:10:56,549
Recorded over 12 days, it was a
sweeping symphonic masterpiece,
1113
01:10:56,573 --> 01:11:00,977
one of the few things to actually
exceed Lucas' expectations.
1114
01:11:01,001 --> 01:11:09,482
To hear Johnny play
the music for the first
1115
01:11:09,506 --> 01:11:18,977
time is a thrill beyond
anything I can describe.
1116
01:11:19,001 --> 01:11:22,219
It was my first
opportunity to work with the
1117
01:11:22,243 --> 01:11:25,977
London Symphony Orchestra
which was a thrill to me.
1118
01:11:26,001 --> 01:11:45,000
He really understood the
genre that I was talking about.
1119
01:11:45,050 --> 01:11:48,977
It's a group of composers that
weren't that well looked upon in the '70s.
1120
01:11:49,001 --> 01:11:53,226
It was a different attitude toward the
old fashion symphonic and the scores.
1121
01:11:53,250 --> 01:11:54,977
And I had a lot of music in the movie.
1122
01:11:55,001 --> 01:12:07,977
Somewhere in space, this
may all be happening right now.
1123
01:12:08,001 --> 01:12:08,977
There they go.
1124
01:12:09,001 --> 01:12:15,977
Fox said they wanted a trailer out for the
Christmas films before the summer released.
1125
01:12:16,001 --> 01:12:20,000
We didn't have any visual
effects shots, ready then.
1126
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,977
So we said, "Well, that's going to
be limiting and what footage can be.
1127
01:12:24,001 --> 01:12:31,977
" It's a big, sprawling space
saga of rebellion and romance.
1128
01:12:32,001 --> 01:12:35,176
What was really cool about the trailer was
that we were still working on the movie.
1129
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:47,977
It's an epic of heroes and villains
and aliens from a thousand worlds.
1130
01:12:48,001 --> 01:12:49,977
It was more about the spirit of it.
1131
01:12:50,001 --> 01:12:53,337
It introduced a lot of different
characters, the robots, one
1132
01:12:53,361 --> 01:12:56,977
thing they did have was a couple
of the very early, white savers.
1133
01:12:57,001 --> 01:13:08,977
Star Wars, a billion years in the making,
and it's coming to your galaxy this summer.
1134
01:13:09,001 --> 01:13:11,977
It was fun.
1135
01:13:12,001 --> 01:13:15,546
Industry insiders had been
predicting doom for Star
1136
01:13:15,570 --> 01:13:19,000
Wars, but a small army
of fans had been building.
1137
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,977
Thanks to the foresight of Lucasfilm.
1138
01:13:22,001 --> 01:13:25,476
Charles Lipincott was brought
in as a marketing director.
1139
01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:27,251
He was a science fiction fan.
1140
01:13:27,275 --> 01:13:31,051
He had contacts with the fan
base that was critical we felt.
1141
01:13:31,850 --> 01:13:35,576
The science fiction fans were going
to be the big supporter of this film,
1142
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,000
regardless of its popularity
with any other audience.
1143
01:13:39,150 --> 01:13:43,000
So that was the key
target audience to start with.
1144
01:13:43,450 --> 01:13:46,126
Aside from licensing posters and t-shirts,
1145
01:13:46,150 --> 01:13:48,777
there was little support
outside of Lucasfilm's
1146
01:13:48,801 --> 01:13:51,334
marketing efforts to
promote Star Wars.
1147
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,845
Fortunately, Charles
Lipincott was able to secure
1148
01:13:54,869 --> 01:13:58,005
a comic book deal with
Stan Lee and Marvel Comics.
1149
01:13:58,050 --> 01:14:01,329
He also convinced Del
Rey to publish a novelized
1150
01:14:01,353 --> 01:14:05,000
version of George Lucas'
screenplay in November 1976.
1151
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:11,000
By February the next year, half a
million copies had completely sold out.
1152
01:14:11,850 --> 01:14:13,974
Fearing Star Wars
would get crushed by other
1153
01:14:13,998 --> 01:14:15,977
summer movies like
Smokey and the Bandit,
1154
01:14:16,001 --> 01:14:20,000
Fox moved its release to the
Wednesday before Memorial Day,
1155
01:14:20,150 --> 01:14:22,977
but fewer than 40
theaters agreed to show it.
1156
01:14:23,001 --> 01:14:25,000
Nobody wanted to book it.
1157
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,876
That same summer in 1977, Fox release
film called The Other Side of Midnight,
1158
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:32,126
which was based on an
enormously successful bestseller.
1159
01:14:32,150 --> 01:14:36,151
It wasn't a very good film, but it
was a very, very much expected book.
1160
01:14:36,175 --> 01:14:43,000
And in order to exhibit The Other Side
of Midnight, you have to exhibit Star Wars.
1161
01:14:43,700 --> 01:14:45,567
We set out a beautiful book,
1162
01:14:46,050 --> 01:14:48,026
and that didn't seem to
make an impact on them at all.
1163
01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:49,977
We had very few bookings.
1164
01:14:50,001 --> 01:14:53,977
Well, so it wasn't that there
had been time or news week,
1165
01:14:54,001 --> 01:14:59,977
or any of that's preceding this Edmund
screen and hadn't gotten the reviews.
1166
01:15:00,001 --> 01:15:06,600
On the eve of Star Wars release, 20th
century Fox, George Lucas, and the cast
1167
01:15:06,624 --> 01:15:10,000
and crew braced
themselves for the worst.
1168
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:17,000
One way or another, May 25, 1977,
would be a day they'd never forget.
1169
01:15:51,001 --> 01:15:55,001
Opening shot was one of the most important
shots in the movie for the visual effects,
1170
01:15:55,025 --> 01:15:59,000
because if the audience
bought that shot, you had them.
1171
01:16:05,001 --> 01:16:07,388
The combined chest
of everybody just kind
1172
01:16:07,412 --> 01:16:09,977
of like the air was
sucked out of the place.
1173
01:16:10,001 --> 01:16:12,977
And then when the white Star
Wars era came overhead, I teared up.
1174
01:16:13,001 --> 01:16:15,977
It was so powerful.
1175
01:16:20,001 --> 01:16:26,977
I had seen that scene, but without music,
without context, it's not the same thing.
1176
01:16:27,001 --> 01:16:31,977
We had doomed.
1177
01:16:34,001 --> 01:16:35,977
Help me, Obi-Wan, could it be?
1178
01:16:36,001 --> 01:16:39,977
There was this sort of
weird electric kind of reaction.
1179
01:16:40,001 --> 01:16:42,026
One had never seen anything like it.
1180
01:16:47,001 --> 01:16:48,977
I'm going to make a gentle ice cream.
1181
01:16:51,001 --> 01:16:54,977
I had never experienced
special effects that were so real.
1182
01:16:55,001 --> 01:16:57,977
♪♪♪ I was dazzled.
1183
01:17:04,001 --> 01:17:08,977
I loved it, because I loved the
story, and I loved the characters.
1184
01:17:09,001 --> 01:17:12,977
Somebody give this big
walking carpet out of my way.
1185
01:17:13,001 --> 01:17:14,977
Good luck.
1186
01:17:15,001 --> 01:17:17,977
I thought that it was revolutionary.
1187
01:17:18,001 --> 01:17:19,977
This is a work of genius.
1188
01:17:20,001 --> 01:17:22,977
The force will be with you always.
1189
01:17:32,150 --> 01:17:32,977
We were in shock.
1190
01:17:33,001 --> 01:17:35,126
I felt like we were blasted
in the back of our seats.
1191
01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:36,977
Man, that was -- who
worked on this? I'm going in.
1192
01:17:37,001 --> 01:17:42,977
♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ I have not.
1193
01:17:51,001 --> 01:17:54,126
The theater was jammed full
of people right down to the front,
1194
01:17:54,150 --> 01:17:58,000
and there was a lot of
hollering and cheery going on.
1195
01:17:58,075 --> 01:17:59,977
You're all clear, kid.
1196
01:18:00,001 --> 01:18:01,977
No, let's go and sing and go home.
1197
01:18:04,001 --> 01:18:07,977
After it was over, everyone
was like on Cloud 9.
1198
01:18:08,001 --> 01:18:12,977
Just kind of in shock, we
had no clue what we were on.
1199
01:18:18,001 --> 01:18:19,076
It was wonderful.
1200
01:18:23,001 --> 01:18:27,977
I remember leaving the theater and
having these kids asked us for autograph.
1201
01:18:28,001 --> 01:18:29,977
They didn't know you
don't want our autograph.
1202
01:18:30,001 --> 01:18:31,401
We're like model builders.
1203
01:18:31,425 --> 01:18:33,326
No, no, we want you to sign this.
1204
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:34,977
So we're thinking, wow,
this must mean something.
1205
01:18:35,001 --> 01:18:36,977
People are asking for our autograph.
1206
01:18:39,001 --> 01:18:40,977
We were standing up at a pulley.
1207
01:18:41,001 --> 01:18:42,977
We were seeing this from my life.
1208
01:18:43,001 --> 01:18:44,977
And I'll never see it again.
1209
01:18:51,001 --> 01:18:54,000
We released, I think,
at 37 theaters initially,
1210
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:56,977
and, for 36 house records.
1211
01:18:57,001 --> 01:18:59,000
I was completely shocked.
1212
01:18:59,450 --> 01:19:02,000
It got an amazing response.
1213
01:19:02,300 --> 01:19:05,226
I used to drive by and
look at the lines and think,
1214
01:19:05,250 --> 01:19:08,076
"What?" I mean, it was
the first sort of blockbuster.
1215
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:13,977
George Luke's "Star Wars,"
lifted us out of our sort of
1216
01:19:14,001 --> 01:19:19,000
depression of the '70s
and into an awareness
1217
01:19:19,050 --> 01:19:22,000
and a focus on space
and its possible future.
1218
01:19:22,450 --> 01:19:25,000
This movie stood by itself.
1219
01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:28,000
Timing is everything in art.
1220
01:19:28,700 --> 01:19:32,026
You bring out "Star Wars"
too early, and it's Buck Rogers.
1221
01:19:32,050 --> 01:19:35,000
You bring it out too late,
1222
01:19:35,450 --> 01:19:37,101
and it doesn't fit our imagination.
1223
01:19:37,125 --> 01:19:39,977
You bring it out just as the
war in Vietnam is ending.
1224
01:19:40,001 --> 01:19:45,000
When America feels uncertain of
itself, when the old stories have died,
1225
01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:47,426
and you bring it out of
that time, it's suddenly,
1226
01:19:47,450 --> 01:19:49,000
it's a new game.
1227
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,080
Also, it's a lot of fun.
1228
01:19:51,250 --> 01:19:54,000
It's a lot of fun to
watch "Star Wars.
1229
01:19:54,350 --> 01:19:57,977
" People started seeing the world in
the terms that "Star Wars" had laid down.
1230
01:19:58,001 --> 01:20:00,251
People would say, "May
the Force be with you.
1231
01:20:00,275 --> 01:20:01,977
" It was a kind of code, almost.
1232
01:20:02,001 --> 01:20:04,977
It proved that you were one of
the people who had seen the film,
1233
01:20:05,001 --> 01:20:08,026
and you were connecting with
other people who had seen the film.
1234
01:20:08,050 --> 01:20:11,000
"Star Wars" became
like a kind of handshake.
1235
01:20:11,050 --> 01:20:15,000
In the wake of "Star Wars,"
1236
01:20:15,150 --> 01:20:16,977
everyone's careers were changed.
1237
01:20:17,001 --> 01:20:19,000
Over night, Mark Hamill,
1238
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,326
Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford
1239
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:23,150
had become household names.
1240
01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:25,000
I felt like this.
1241
01:20:25,025 --> 01:20:25,977
Great.
1242
01:20:26,001 --> 01:20:28,068
Terrific. Now I can go to work.
1243
01:20:28,250 --> 01:20:29,977
Now I have an opportunity
to take advantage
1244
01:20:30,001 --> 01:20:34,000
of the success of this
film and go to work.
1245
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:38,260
And as much as life changed for
us, it changed for George as well.
1246
01:20:38,750 --> 01:20:41,476
About a month after it was
released, I said, "Okay, it's a hit.
1247
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:43,020
I can now go ahead.
1248
01:20:43,275 --> 01:20:44,977
I can make my other movies.
1249
01:20:45,001 --> 01:20:46,977
I'm going to do this.
1250
01:20:47,001 --> 01:20:49,977
" Ironically, the
independent filmmaker
1251
01:20:50,001 --> 01:20:51,977
who wanted nothing to do
with corporate Hollywood
1252
01:20:52,001 --> 01:20:55,000
was now credited
with reinvigorating it.
1253
01:20:55,700 --> 01:20:59,977
In three weeks, Fox's stock
price doubled to a record high.
1254
01:21:00,001 --> 01:21:03,977
A bunch of the guys I remember at that
point ran out of a bunch of stock at Fox.
1255
01:21:04,001 --> 01:21:06,000
I wasn't smart enough.
1256
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:12,000
The greatest profit that 20th century
Fox had ever made in a single year
1257
01:21:12,350 --> 01:21:14,000
with $37 million.
1258
01:21:14,650 --> 01:21:19,000
And in 19, whatever that year,
the 7778, whatever that year was,
1259
01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:22,000
they made a profit of $79 million.
1260
01:21:23,125 --> 01:21:24,126
That was "Star Wars.
1261
01:21:24,150 --> 01:21:26,977
" The cultural impact of
Lucas' outer space story
1262
01:21:27,001 --> 01:21:29,977
was greater than anything
even he could have imagined.
1263
01:21:30,001 --> 01:21:34,000
Not just in the United
States, but around the globe.
1264
01:21:34,650 --> 01:21:36,076
It wasn't a story of cultures,
1265
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:40,001
it wasn't a story of nationalities,
it wasn't a story of geography.
1266
01:21:40,025 --> 01:21:44,000
It was a story of mankind
escaping his environment
1267
01:21:44,350 --> 01:21:47,217
to a life which everybody
expects to happen,
1268
01:21:47,550 --> 01:21:50,176
but George Lucas was
able to illustrate for us.
1269
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,000
This was what made it a success worldwide.
1270
01:21:54,750 --> 01:21:56,977
The movie did spectacular
business across Europe,
1271
01:21:57,001 --> 01:22:00,977
but when Alan Ladd Jr. attended
the premiere in Japan one year later,
1272
01:22:01,001 --> 01:22:03,977
he feared that the
silence which followed the
1273
01:22:04,001 --> 01:22:07,329
screening indicated that
"Star Wars" would be a flop.
1274
01:22:08,050 --> 01:22:10,126
He was relieved when he
later found out that silence
1275
01:22:10,150 --> 01:22:13,977
was the greatest compliment a
Japanese audience could give a film.
1276
01:22:14,001 --> 01:22:24,000
"We had the footprint
ceremony in the Chinese theater.
1277
01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:30,977
" Thousands of people showed
up, so we were sure, by then,
1278
01:22:31,001 --> 01:22:35,276
that there was much more to it
than just the science fiction audience.
1279
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:39,977
"I can see somebody there. You
made about a seven-week conference.
1280
01:22:40,001 --> 01:22:48,977
" "I'm excited
for George Miller.
1281
01:22:49,001 --> 01:22:52,977
" Not surprisingly, "Star
Wars Greatest Fans"
1282
01:22:53,001 --> 01:22:56,977
were children, they thrilled
to the fantasy adventures
1283
01:22:57,001 --> 01:22:59,977
of Luke Skywalker, Han
Solo, and Princess Leia,
1284
01:23:00,001 --> 01:23:04,326
and they were eager to bring the
experience of the movie home with them.
1285
01:23:04,350 --> 01:23:06,703
But Little Star Wars
merchandise was available
1286
01:23:06,727 --> 01:23:09,593
for the first few months
after its premiere.
1287
01:23:10,050 --> 01:23:12,977
To help promote the movie,
Lucasfilm's Charles Lippincott
1288
01:23:13,001 --> 01:23:17,033
had tried to attract potential
licensees before the film opened,
1289
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,597
but prior to Star Wars,
there had been few
1290
01:23:19,621 --> 01:23:21,977
successful motion picture
licensing campaigns
1291
01:23:22,001 --> 01:23:25,000
and Lippincott's attempts
were flatly rejected.
1292
01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:31,000
Just one company, Kenner Toys,
signed on shortly before Star Wars opened.
1293
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:32,977
Kenner didn't believe
the film would be a hit,
1294
01:23:33,001 --> 01:23:36,977
but they were interested in creating
a modest line of colorful space toys.
1295
01:23:37,001 --> 01:23:41,977
When Star Wars became a smash,
they were caught completely off guard.
1296
01:23:42,001 --> 01:23:46,000
Unable to produce toys in
time for Christmas orders,
1297
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,576
Kenner resorted to selling boxed
vouchers for Star Wars action figures.
1298
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,977
There wasn't anything
available when the film came out.
1299
01:23:53,001 --> 01:23:57,977
There wasn't even anything available
for the following Christmas of '77.
1300
01:23:58,001 --> 01:24:00,977
That was the infamous empty box campaign,
1301
01:24:01,001 --> 01:24:05,026
where the idea proposed by Kenner
was that they'd be the wonderful boxes
1302
01:24:05,050 --> 01:24:07,126
with all the Star Wars
illustrations on them,
1303
01:24:07,150 --> 01:24:08,977
and the kid would get this
for Christmas and open it up,
1304
01:24:09,001 --> 01:24:13,426
and they'd be a little certificate in there
saying, "You can get this toy in March.
1305
01:24:13,450 --> 01:24:17,151
" The Star Wars early bird
certificate package knew from Kenner.
1306
01:24:17,175 --> 01:24:23,855
I lit up when I found
out that they were going
1307
01:24:23,879 --> 01:24:32,977
to make my face a mask on a box of cereal,
with little dots where to cut my eyes out.
1308
01:24:33,001 --> 01:24:35,977
The idea needed being on bubblegum cards.
1309
01:24:36,001 --> 01:24:40,326
You know, I thought you had to have
athletic ability to be a bubblegum card.
1310
01:24:40,350 --> 01:24:44,000
So, I enjoyed the
merchandising aspect of it.
1311
01:24:44,050 --> 01:24:47,977
You know, we signed away
our likeness, so when I look
1312
01:24:48,001 --> 01:24:51,051
in the mirror, I have to pay
Georgia a couple of bucks.
1313
01:24:51,075 --> 01:24:56,977
You're not really famous
until you're a Pez dispenser,
1314
01:24:57,001 --> 01:24:59,977
but, you know, you sort of
realize, "I'm not really famous.
1315
01:25:00,001 --> 01:25:03,000
Princess Leia is,
and I look like her.
1316
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,326
" And, you know,
Georgia, a couple of bucks.
1317
01:25:06,350 --> 01:25:11,000
For Lucas, protecting the
quality and integrity of his vision,
1318
01:25:11,050 --> 01:25:14,977
became as important as gaining his financial
independence from Hollywood Studios.
1319
01:25:15,001 --> 01:25:17,977
Merchandising offered a means to an end,
1320
01:25:18,001 --> 01:25:20,977
one that helped fuel
support for more Star Wars
1321
01:25:21,001 --> 01:25:23,977
films, as well as other
important projects.
1322
01:25:24,001 --> 01:25:27,076
In the world of merchandising,
oh goodness gracious,
1323
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:29,977
people came through
us with ideas all the time,
1324
01:25:30,001 --> 01:25:33,076
every day, day and night,
from all over the world,
1325
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:37,322
for Star Wars merchandise,
we were the ones in those
1326
01:25:37,346 --> 01:25:42,000
days to say, "No, sorry,
that doesn't fit into our plan.
1327
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:45,000
" At the 1978 Academy Awards,
1328
01:25:45,325 --> 01:25:47,977
Star Wars earned an
impressive 10 Oscar nominations,
1329
01:25:48,001 --> 01:25:51,977
and took home seven,
including statues for best
1330
01:25:52,001 --> 01:25:55,977
visual effects, sound,
editing and production design.
1331
01:25:56,001 --> 01:25:57,977
It was terrific.
1332
01:25:58,001 --> 01:25:59,041
I don't know.
1333
01:25:59,150 --> 01:25:59,977
It was great.
1334
01:26:00,001 --> 01:26:00,977
It was like a dream come true.
1335
01:26:01,001 --> 01:26:01,977
It's American dream.
1336
01:26:02,001 --> 01:26:04,433
I wound up winning the Academy
Award for Star Wars before
1337
01:26:04,457 --> 01:26:07,576
I'd even started thinking about
winning the Academy Awards.
1338
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,626
My goal was to get another job.
1339
01:26:09,650 --> 01:26:10,977
While it didn't win for Best Picture,
1340
01:26:11,001 --> 01:26:15,977
its nomination was quite an achievement
for George Lucas and his kids' movie.
1341
01:26:16,001 --> 01:26:25,000
In addition to industry acclaim,
1342
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:28,977
Star Wars earned more
money than any movie in history.
1343
01:26:29,001 --> 01:26:31,977
After years of fighting uphill battles,
1344
01:26:32,001 --> 01:26:34,977
Lucas could finally call his
own shots with the studios.
1345
01:26:35,001 --> 01:26:37,977
When Fox approached him
about doing the inevitable sequel,
1346
01:26:38,001 --> 01:26:43,977
it was the moment the filmmaker
had long been waiting for.
1347
01:26:44,001 --> 01:26:48,651
This was a perfect opportunity to become
independent of the Hollywood system.
1348
01:26:48,675 --> 01:26:49,977
I didn't mind releasing it through them,
1349
01:26:50,001 --> 01:26:53,076
but it was really going to them
for the money and them saying,
1350
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:55,376
"Well, I like the script,
but I want to change.
1351
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,051
" The film is good, but we
want to make these changes.
1352
01:26:58,075 --> 01:26:59,977
That's the part I wanted to avoid.
1353
01:27:00,001 --> 01:27:02,526
I decided I was going
to finance the film myself,
1354
01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:06,000
and I was going to make it
completely independently.
1355
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,076
The rule in Hollywood is never
put your own money in any film,
1356
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:11,977
even your own film.
1357
01:27:12,001 --> 01:27:14,001
But George was self-financing.
1358
01:27:14,150 --> 01:27:16,076
They Empire Strikes Back, but
he was doing it through the bank,
1359
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:20,260
and we were talking about close
to a $30 million film at the time.
1360
01:27:20,450 --> 01:27:24,000
But because of the huge
success of the first picture,
1361
01:27:24,150 --> 01:27:28,977
and of the revenues that were still rolling
in, I merchandising was very strong.
1362
01:27:29,001 --> 01:27:32,977
It was a gamble, but a gamble
that he knew would pay off.
1363
01:27:33,001 --> 01:27:35,076
With his earnings from Star Wars,
1364
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:39,196
Lucas was able to secure a bank
loan for the Empire Strikes Back.
1365
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:45,000
Empire's original budget was $25 million,
more than twice that of the first film.
1366
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:58,000
We would meet at Medway, which
was George's San Francisco office,
1367
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,977
and look at the illustrations
while George was writing the script,
1368
01:28:03,001 --> 01:28:08,000
and Gary Kurz would fly in
occasionally from London,
1369
01:28:08,250 --> 01:28:11,150
and Ralph Macquarie
would send down drawings,
1370
01:28:11,250 --> 01:28:15,000
conceptual designs, as well as Joe Johnson.
1371
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:22,000
The Empire Strikes Back would
reunite much of the Star Wars cast.
1372
01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:24,977
It would also move the
story in new directions,
1373
01:28:25,001 --> 01:28:27,977
digging more deeply into
the emotions of the characters.
1374
01:28:28,001 --> 01:28:32,076
George had been given enormous
license by the success of Star Wars,
1375
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:37,092
and so when he started talking to me
about the Empire script that didn't exist,
1376
01:28:37,550 --> 01:28:41,276
he knew what had happened in
the story, and it was very dark stuff.
1377
01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:46,000
I was delighted that it was not
going to be a rehash of Star Wars,
1378
01:28:46,050 --> 01:28:51,000
but in fact, after having set the whole
thing up and got that rousing start,
1379
01:28:51,450 --> 01:28:55,426
you launch into the second act
in which everything goes to hell,
1380
01:28:55,450 --> 01:28:58,977
and that's usually the best act in a play.
1381
01:28:59,001 --> 01:29:05,977
Empire would also open the door to a
romance between Han Solo and Princess Leia,
1382
01:29:06,001 --> 01:29:09,977
but this time George Lucas
wasn't getting in the director's chair.
1383
01:29:10,001 --> 01:29:13,000
It was just too hard to set up a company,
1384
01:29:13,975 --> 01:29:17,000
to get the money, get the film made,
1385
01:29:17,300 --> 01:29:21,276
and also be down there on the
set every day trying to direct it.
1386
01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:24,000
So I decided I'd hire a director.
1387
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,977
I was asked by George to
come to launching Universal,
1388
01:29:28,001 --> 01:29:32,000
and he said, "How would you
like to do the second Star Wars?"
1389
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,467
We had no title for it at that point.
1390
01:29:36,750 --> 01:29:39,977
And I said, "Gee,
George, I don't think so.
1391
01:29:40,001 --> 01:29:44,000
" It's a phenomenal
hit as a picture.
1392
01:29:44,300 --> 01:29:48,000
A second one can only be a second one.
1393
01:29:48,350 --> 01:29:54,000
It can't be as good because
the first one is to break through.
1394
01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:59,977
And I told my agent about the meeting,
and he said, "Are you crazy? Do it!"
1395
01:30:00,001 --> 01:30:06,977
There were approximately
64 sets on this
1396
01:30:07,001 --> 01:30:10,000
picture, which is much
bigger than Star Wars.
1397
01:30:10,050 --> 01:30:14,000
George said the film has to be much better,
1398
01:30:14,500 --> 01:30:18,000
and much bigger, and much
more complex than Star Wars,
1399
01:30:18,675 --> 01:30:25,000
because if the second one doesn't
work, it's the end of Star Wars.
1400
01:30:25,450 --> 01:30:30,000
If it does work, then I can
continue making more of them.
1401
01:30:30,650 --> 01:30:32,977
I said, "It doesn't put me in
a very comfortable position.
1402
01:30:33,001 --> 01:30:36,000
" It's a hell of
a responsibility.
1403
01:30:42,001 --> 01:30:45,977
Known for smaller, character-driven
films like Up the Sandbox
1404
01:30:46,001 --> 01:30:51,000
and the eyes of Laura Mars, Irvin
Kirchner had never directed a blockbuster,
1405
01:30:51,275 --> 01:30:55,977
but emphasis on character was
just what this middle chapter needed.
1406
01:30:56,001 --> 01:31:00,000
The story line was much more difficult.
1407
01:31:00,275 --> 01:31:07,000
I felt I needed humor in the
picture, and yet I couldn't have gags.
1408
01:31:07,300 --> 01:31:10,000
I felt I needed a love story,
1409
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:16,000
and yet I couldn't have a lot of
smooching and kissing and all that stuff,
1410
01:31:16,250 --> 01:31:19,000
and it had to all be more implied.
1411
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:27,000
I knew I needed something
powerful going on inside Luke's soul,
1412
01:31:27,250 --> 01:31:30,977
and he really carries
the picture, of course.
1413
01:31:31,001 --> 01:31:34,201
So, I didn't know quite
how I was going to do this.
1414
01:31:37,650 --> 01:31:39,977
In the years since
the release of the First
1415
01:31:40,001 --> 01:31:43,000
Star Wars, now dubbed
Episode 4, A New Hope,
1416
01:31:43,125 --> 01:31:45,000
ILM had come a long way.
1417
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,101
The company was no
longer a fledgling operation,
1418
01:31:48,125 --> 01:31:50,000
struggling to get by.
1419
01:31:50,350 --> 01:31:54,000
At the end of Star Wars,
George invited the core group
1420
01:31:54,625 --> 01:31:55,977
to Northern California.
1421
01:31:56,001 --> 01:31:57,977
To start this whole new
facility, they were ten of us,
1422
01:31:58,001 --> 01:32:01,009
and I was the only one
that immediately came up.
1423
01:32:01,150 --> 01:32:02,977
I said, "You know, what are you kidding?
1424
01:32:03,001 --> 01:32:05,000
Stay here and van nighs.
1425
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,267
" And this crummy part of town,
1426
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:09,251
and this dumpy building, you know,
1427
01:32:09,275 --> 01:32:13,000
that was inadequate
from the very beginning,
1428
01:32:13,550 --> 01:32:15,230
or moved to Marin County.
1429
01:32:15,500 --> 01:32:19,977
I have a new building and have a new
film to work on in this great environment.
1430
01:32:20,001 --> 01:32:22,000
It was like a no-brainer.
1431
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,026
Well, I'm Eric George saying,
"Well, this time we got some money.
1432
01:32:26,050 --> 01:32:27,977
" And so, that was kind of nice.
1433
01:32:28,001 --> 01:32:33,176
We talked about, you know, should we top
ourselves, or are we going to top ourselves?
1434
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,977
And I think it was more that, you
know, let's just make it look cool.
1435
01:32:36,001 --> 01:32:37,026
I have some fun with it.
1436
01:32:37,050 --> 01:32:40,977
And George came up with,
you know, some great story stuff.
1437
01:32:41,001 --> 01:32:44,977
We started on the walker, but
we also had to build a pro bot,
1438
01:32:45,001 --> 01:32:48,101
which is the probe that is
sent down by Darth Vader
1439
01:32:48,125 --> 01:32:54,000
that lands on the snow planet surface that
then goes and looks for human life forms.
1440
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,076
Joe had already drawn the
drawings, George liked them,
1441
01:32:57,100 --> 01:33:01,000
but they were going to
go to Norway to shoot
1442
01:33:01,050 --> 01:33:02,977
all those scenes, and
they needed a prop.
1443
01:33:03,001 --> 01:33:05,977
They needed one that was,
like, nine feet tall or something
1444
01:33:06,001 --> 01:33:09,137
like that, and scaled to
have out in the distance.
1445
01:33:20,001 --> 01:33:23,009
The making of Empire
was a whole set of problems
1446
01:33:23,225 --> 01:33:25,000
that we didn't anticipate.
1447
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:30,000
The picture was much bigger
undertaking than originally conceived.
1448
01:33:31,050 --> 01:33:34,000
And the budget was quite a bit more.
1449
01:33:34,150 --> 01:33:36,076
Everybody who's dealt with visual effects
1450
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:39,176
had never do snow because
you can't maintain the color.
1451
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:43,376
We ignored all those warnings and
decided to shoot in the snow anyway,
1452
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,977
but it was a very time-consuming process.
1453
01:33:46,001 --> 01:33:48,134
And again, just like in Tunisia,
1454
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,067
we were in Norway shooting on this glacier,
1455
01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:56,000
and we had the worst winter in Scandinavia
1456
01:33:56,350 --> 01:34:01,000
than they'd had in 50 years,
20 below zero, 18 feet of snow.
1457
01:34:03,001 --> 01:34:03,977
It was a miserable location,
1458
01:34:04,001 --> 01:34:06,977
because we will cross
this frozen thing up on this
1459
01:34:07,001 --> 01:34:08,977
glacier with these tracked
vehicles to get there.
1460
01:34:09,001 --> 01:34:16,000
We had sort of like steaks like big twigs,
almost in the ground, about every six feet.
1461
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:17,977
Because if it started
snowing, you'd get a white eye.
1462
01:34:18,001 --> 01:34:20,151
You can't tell where you're going,
1463
01:34:20,175 --> 01:34:20,977
and it did one night.
1464
01:34:21,001 --> 01:34:22,977
I'd drove one of the tracked vehicles.
1465
01:34:23,001 --> 01:34:25,977
Without these, I never would
have found my way back.
1466
01:34:26,001 --> 01:34:28,000
We get to Norway,
1467
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:33,000
and I couldn't get out
of the hotel to shoot,
1468
01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:37,977
because there was a wall of
snow that was blown in that night.
1469
01:34:40,175 --> 01:34:45,039
So if we put the camera in the doorway
of the hotel, going out the back door,
1470
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:50,977
the crew was all inside toasty
warm, and Mark had to go out
1471
01:34:51,001 --> 01:34:54,426
into the snow and go running
away from the ice creature,
1472
01:34:54,450 --> 01:34:56,977
and we never left the doorway.
1473
01:34:57,001 --> 01:35:00,000
And he froze the death, and we were flying.
1474
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:07,000
We finally shot all the scenes,
knowing where the special effects,
1475
01:35:07,075 --> 01:35:11,977
where this thing would come down, the
foot would come down and roll this stuff.
1476
01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:17,101
It was really tricky stuff.
1477
01:35:17,125 --> 01:35:21,000
You know, animating these
things on the snowy set.
1478
01:35:21,150 --> 01:35:26,000
So initially, I think that the
intent was to try and set up
1479
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,977
scenes that would be blue screen comped
1480
01:35:29,001 --> 01:35:32,000
into a background place
of a shot on location.
1481
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:39,000
But this kid showed up at Island,
who was this amazing painter.
1482
01:35:39,075 --> 01:35:46,000
And so most of the work of the
snowwalkers and the tontons were
1483
01:35:46,050 --> 01:35:48,977
done against these, these
painted backdrops that might made.
1484
01:35:49,001 --> 01:35:49,977
I like the snowwalkers.
1485
01:35:50,001 --> 01:35:52,201
I think that's just a great idea.
1486
01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:54,977
And I think that the
composite got a lot better,
1487
01:35:55,001 --> 01:36:00,977
but it was better than it was in Star Wars,
and so it's a little bit more believable.
1488
01:36:03,001 --> 01:36:05,977
The cast and crew of
the Empire Strikes Back
1489
01:36:06,001 --> 01:36:08,977
were determined to make
the second installment
1490
01:36:09,001 --> 01:36:11,977
of Star Wars were three
years of waiting by fans.
1491
01:36:22,001 --> 01:36:24,977
All right, boys, keep tight now.
1492
01:36:25,001 --> 01:36:26,977
Look, I have no road factor.
1493
01:36:27,001 --> 01:36:27,977
I'm not set.
1494
01:36:28,001 --> 01:36:28,977
Steady, Jack.
1495
01:36:29,001 --> 01:36:30,977
I pack kind of Delta, go now.
1496
01:36:35,001 --> 01:36:37,000
As with the first film,
1497
01:36:37,250 --> 01:36:40,076
Principal Photography
for the Empire Strikes Back
1498
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:42,977
was done at Elstriss Studios in London.
1499
01:36:43,001 --> 01:36:45,151
Here, members of the original cast
1500
01:36:45,175 --> 01:36:47,977
would be introduced to
a new principal character,
1501
01:36:48,001 --> 01:36:50,977
Lando Calrissian, played by Billy D.
Williams.
1502
01:36:52,001 --> 01:36:56,000
Are you slimy, double-crossing,
and no good swindler?
1503
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:00,176
You've got a lot of guts coming
here, after what you pulled.
1504
01:37:11,250 --> 01:37:13,977
How you doin', you'll
fire it so good to see it!
1505
01:37:15,050 --> 01:37:16,977
Wait, he seems very friendly.
1506
01:37:17,001 --> 01:37:19,977
Yes. Very friendly.
1507
01:37:20,001 --> 01:37:24,000
It's always interesting to
create a character that has,
1508
01:37:24,300 --> 01:37:27,000
you know, it's a sort of dual character.
1509
01:37:27,450 --> 01:37:29,526
You know, you're not quite sure about him,
1510
01:37:29,550 --> 01:37:32,376
especially if he's cute,
and I was really kind of cute.
1511
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,000
Hello, what have we here?
1512
01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:36,977
Welcome, I'm Lando Calrissian.
1513
01:37:37,001 --> 01:37:39,526
I'm the administrator of this facility.
1514
01:37:39,550 --> 01:37:40,977
And who might you be? Lando.
1515
01:37:41,001 --> 01:37:42,026
Welcome, Lando.
1516
01:37:42,050 --> 01:37:44,000
1517
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:50,000
All right, you're all smoothie.
1518
01:37:52,001 --> 01:37:57,000
The Empire Strikes Back also
introduced a new villain to the saga,
1519
01:37:57,050 --> 01:38:01,000
the calculating cold-blooded
bounty hunter, Boba Fett.
1520
01:38:01,850 --> 01:38:04,000
What's goin' on, buddy?
1521
01:38:04,300 --> 01:38:07,000
You've been put into carbon freeze.
1522
01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:09,076
What if he doesn't survive?
1523
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:10,977
You learn a lot to me.
1524
01:38:11,001 --> 01:38:13,977
The Empire will compensate you if he dies.
1525
01:38:14,001 --> 01:38:14,977
What do you mean?
1526
01:38:15,001 --> 01:38:20,000
We looked at the scene where Han
Solo goes into the freezing chamber.
1527
01:38:20,900 --> 01:38:24,977
George had scripted an
exchange between Princess
1528
01:38:25,001 --> 01:38:27,977
Leia and Han Solo,
which went like this.
1529
01:38:28,001 --> 01:38:30,000
She said, "I love you.
1530
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:33,000
" And Han Solo
said, "I love you too.
1531
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:36,977
" And it kind of seemed to me
that we weren't taking advantage
1532
01:38:37,001 --> 01:38:41,000
of the character that we'd
established for Han Solo.
1533
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,000
We tried to take, if to take,
1534
01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:48,000
nothing satisfied me.
1535
01:38:48,500 --> 01:38:54,000
And finally, I said,
"Harrison, don't think about it.
1536
01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:55,977
Don't think about it.
Let's do it. Okay, action.
1537
01:38:56,001 --> 01:38:57,977
" I love you.
1538
01:38:58,001 --> 01:38:59,977
I know.
1539
01:39:00,001 --> 01:39:03,000
And he dropped
in, and I said, "Cut.
1540
01:39:03,050 --> 01:39:07,977
" I said, "Yeah, it's a
great line. That's Han Solo.
1541
01:39:08,001 --> 01:39:12,977
" Ironically, the most
talked about new character
1542
01:39:13,001 --> 01:39:18,000
wasn't a human at all, but a
two-foot tall puppet called Yoda.
1543
01:39:18,150 --> 01:39:21,977
Designed by Stuart Freeborn and
operated by Muppeteer Frank Oz,
1544
01:39:22,001 --> 01:39:25,977
the tiny creature was a
fully realized character
1545
01:39:26,001 --> 01:39:28,977
and a unique achievement
in movie puppetry.
1546
01:39:29,001 --> 01:39:31,977
It all showed me a few original sketches.
1547
01:39:32,001 --> 01:39:34,977
And I thought, "Well, that's interesting,
1548
01:39:35,001 --> 01:39:39,000
"but I want something
in more depth, you see.
1549
01:39:39,050 --> 01:39:42,058
" And so, I looked in
the mirror, and I thought,
1550
01:39:43,100 --> 01:39:50,977
"Well, something perhaps a
little bit amusing about my face.
1551
01:39:51,001 --> 01:39:53,268
" So I modeled
something of myself,
1552
01:39:53,350 --> 01:39:56,101
and now I've got to
make him look intelligent.
1553
01:39:56,125 --> 01:40:01,000
It's fair to go for my insight, and
put the Einstein wrinkles in all around.
1554
01:40:01,850 --> 01:40:02,977
I did a lot of thinking about it,
1555
01:40:03,001 --> 01:40:07,000
because he's got to be full of
subtle action and movements,
1556
01:40:07,300 --> 01:40:11,977
especially in the face
and the body, and put it all
1557
01:40:12,001 --> 01:40:14,151
in, what was necessary
to invite earlier or work.
1558
01:40:14,175 --> 01:40:19,000
I remember Stuart was under the
gun, and it was very tense, very tense.
1559
01:40:19,150 --> 01:40:22,376
Had to get this thing done, we've
got to start shooting with Yoda.
1560
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,977
And so, while we're talking to him,
1561
01:40:25,001 --> 01:40:29,977
I just had Yoda's head, and I was just
playing with it, and I dropped in a cranked.
1562
01:40:30,001 --> 01:40:31,977
So here we are.
1563
01:40:32,001 --> 01:40:35,000
You know, then Stuart
said, "I need a drink.
1564
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:36,140
" I think so.
1565
01:40:36,175 --> 01:40:38,977
It was terrible, because
here we're pressing
1566
01:40:39,001 --> 01:40:40,977
so much, and I'm the
one who's screwed it up.
1567
01:40:41,001 --> 01:40:49,000
In order to shoot the puppet movie,
the set had to be built about five feet
1568
01:40:49,125 --> 01:40:53,000
above the floor of the stage.
1569
01:40:53,050 --> 01:40:59,977
And we would put holes or ridges
where it would stand on top of it,
1570
01:41:00,001 --> 01:41:06,000
and he could move it along in a certain
direction, so it had to be predetermined.
1571
01:41:06,550 --> 01:41:12,000
On top of the stage were
trees, rocks, caves, everything.
1572
01:41:12,150 --> 01:41:17,977
Now, they couldn't hear above,
and Mark couldn't hear Frank Oz.
1573
01:41:18,001 --> 01:41:19,376
How do you do a scene?
1574
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:20,977
You can't hear each other.
1575
01:41:21,001 --> 01:41:24,000
I give Mark a lot of credit for this.
1576
01:41:24,350 --> 01:41:28,176
I can remember he actually, this little
voice, called over to me, Norman Norman,
1577
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:33,000
and he said, "Actually, I actually
blushed because it seems so real.
1578
01:41:33,150 --> 01:41:35,217
It's weird, weird little thing.
1579
01:41:35,450 --> 01:41:38,394
" It was tremendously
difficult, physical work.
1580
01:41:38,650 --> 01:41:41,376
The whole floor was about
three and a half, four feet high,
1581
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,226
so I could be underneath the floor,
1582
01:41:43,250 --> 01:41:45,176
and then I would hold my hand up
1583
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:49,526
and through a hole or whatever, and
I remember Kirch was talking to me,
1584
01:41:49,550 --> 01:41:50,977
but he was talking to me,
sometimes talked to Yoda,
1585
01:41:51,001 --> 01:41:53,076
and I'm saying, "Kurch, I
can't hear him down here.
1586
01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:53,977
" Kind of the floor.
1587
01:41:54,001 --> 01:41:56,401
Not the big floor towards the light.
1588
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,000
The other way.
1589
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:04,000
But the pressure was extreme
because I was taking too much time,
1590
01:42:04,450 --> 01:42:08,026
and the reason I was taking too much time
was the first time it's ever been done.
1591
01:42:08,050 --> 01:42:11,977
You know, I had somebody
doing the cables for the ears,
1592
01:42:12,001 --> 01:42:13,977
and somebody else was
doing the cables for the eyes,
1593
01:42:14,001 --> 01:42:16,977
and somebody was doing
the left hand, so I had me and
1594
01:42:17,001 --> 01:42:19,151
three other people trying
to bring one character to life.
1595
01:42:19,175 --> 01:42:20,977
Santa was always good.
1596
01:42:21,001 --> 01:42:22,977
Yeah, just one second.
1597
01:42:23,001 --> 01:42:25,000
There.
1598
01:42:25,300 --> 01:42:27,000
That's it.
1599
01:42:27,125 --> 01:42:28,977
That's good, Graham.
1600
01:42:29,001 --> 01:42:30,977
Okay, we'll go back into that.
1601
01:42:31,001 --> 01:42:34,000
Ready.
1602
01:42:34,475 --> 01:42:36,155
I followed my feelings.
1603
01:42:36,300 --> 01:42:38,000
You are reckless.
1604
01:42:38,150 --> 01:42:41,000
So was I, if you
remember? It is too old.
1605
01:42:41,450 --> 01:42:47,000
Yes, too old to
begin the training.
1606
01:42:47,475 --> 01:42:50,000
I'm not afraid.
1607
01:42:50,300 --> 01:42:54,000
Oh, you will be.
1608
01:42:54,350 --> 01:42:56,000
You will be.
1609
01:42:56,150 --> 01:42:57,977
Sorry.
1610
01:42:58,001 --> 01:43:03,000
That was like a real leap, because
of that puppet had not worked.
1611
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,176
The whole film would
have been down the tubes.
1612
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,176
It just, you know, had been a disaster,
1613
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,076
if it had been a silly little muppet,
1614
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:12,977
if it had been Kermit
right around in that movie.
1615
01:43:13,001 --> 01:43:15,326
The movie would have
collapsed under the weight of it.
1616
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:18,000
340 year take two MB cameras.
1617
01:43:18,500 --> 01:43:20,977
While many individuals
helped bring Yoda to
1618
01:43:21,001 --> 01:43:24,073
life, it was Mark Hamill's
believable performance
1619
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:27,033
that made audiences accept the character.
1620
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:28,977
Is the dark side stronger?
1621
01:43:29,001 --> 01:43:32,000
No.
1622
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,000
But the easier more seductive.
1623
01:43:35,550 --> 01:43:37,526
But how am I to know the good
side of the bad? You will know.
1624
01:43:37,550 --> 01:43:39,000
1625
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:41,076
When you are calm.
1626
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:44,977
At least, for Hamill,
playing a Jedi in training
1627
01:43:45,001 --> 01:43:47,076
was more than just
a physical challenge.
1628
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:50,000
It was also an emotional one.
1629
01:43:50,150 --> 01:43:53,977
I was the only human being
on the call sheet for months.
1630
01:43:54,001 --> 01:43:57,000
It would say actor Mark Hamill, part Luke,
1631
01:43:57,500 --> 01:44:03,000
props, snakes, lizards,
robots, smoke machines,
1632
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,000
healing monsters.
1633
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:08,000
If you choose the quick and easy path,
1634
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:12,000
as Vader did, you will
become an agent of evil,
1635
01:44:12,275 --> 01:44:17,000
and the galaxy will be plunged deeper
into the abyss of hate and despair.
1636
01:44:17,500 --> 01:44:18,977
Are you standing
right on the light? Yeah.
1637
01:44:19,001 --> 01:44:20,001
1638
01:44:20,700 --> 01:44:22,126
Didn't you bite me?
1639
01:44:22,150 --> 01:44:25,000
It was a little love net.
1640
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:29,977
Frank Oz and his crew were there, but
they could bury down underneath the ground.
1641
01:44:30,001 --> 01:44:33,000
If I had an earpiece where I could hear...
1642
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:34,977
Oh, many years of you were.
1643
01:44:35,001 --> 01:44:38,977
And then if you turned your head
the wrong way, you'd pick up Radio 1.
1644
01:44:39,001 --> 01:44:41,176
It was the Rolling Stone
singing "Fool to Cry.
1645
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,000
" I remember I reacted to that.
1646
01:44:44,050 --> 01:44:46,626
I went, "Hey, I got the
stones!" And cursed her.
1647
01:44:46,650 --> 01:44:49,001
God!
1648
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:52,000
And he's way across the bog.
1649
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:56,001
You know, if that happens again,
just pretend like you don't hear it,
1650
01:44:56,025 --> 01:45:00,977
because with all the elements of
that set, the smoke is the smoke good.
1651
01:45:01,001 --> 01:45:02,076
You know, it's the snake.
1652
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:03,026
Poke the snake.
1653
01:45:03,050 --> 01:45:03,977
Get the snake to move.
1654
01:45:04,001 --> 01:45:06,126
You know, you just lie in there.
1655
01:45:06,150 --> 01:45:09,977
So, you felt... Let's
get our priority straight.
1656
01:45:10,001 --> 01:45:14,000
Because I'm concerned about
how did I come off in the scene.
1657
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,000
They were looking at everything but me.
1658
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:29,977
I have to say, you wouldn't
want to fall in that pool.
1659
01:45:30,001 --> 01:45:35,057
By the time you finish shooting, it's
a full of all sorts of wide life and bugs.
1660
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:40,384
It was absolutely fell after all those
weeks of being in medicine, stagnant water.
1661
01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:42,977
I don't believe it.
1662
01:45:43,001 --> 01:45:45,000
I don't believe it.
1663
01:45:45,550 --> 01:45:48,000
Meg, it's why you fail.
1664
01:45:48,050 --> 01:46:00,977
As elaborately detailed as the
set's word "L-Street Studios,"
1665
01:46:01,001 --> 01:46:03,977
equally impressive was
the work done in California.
1666
01:46:04,001 --> 01:46:06,834
ILM was able to produce
special effects that would
1667
01:46:06,858 --> 01:46:09,977
light years ahead of those
seen in the first Star Wars.
1668
01:46:10,001 --> 01:46:12,977
If you look at Star Wars,
you're either kind of in space,
1669
01:46:13,001 --> 01:46:15,977
and they're all, and maybe the
Death Star's back there, maybe it isn't.
1670
01:46:16,001 --> 01:46:18,977
And you have a number
of shots on different planets.
1671
01:46:19,001 --> 01:46:22,000
If you look at Empire and it's broad,
1672
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:26,977
you've got a speeder sequence,
and two or three big dogfights,
1673
01:46:27,001 --> 01:46:28,977
you've got the whole cloud
city and all the interiors
1674
01:46:29,001 --> 01:46:32,977
of different landscapes that are
way beyond what we've done before.
1675
01:46:33,001 --> 01:46:35,423
So I think it was the
breadth of the work that
1676
01:46:35,447 --> 01:46:38,226
I think differentiates
that from the first show.
1677
01:46:38,250 --> 01:46:43,000
And each one of those sequences
required different problem-solving skills.
1678
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,000
We did this incredible chase
through the asteroid field,
1679
01:47:03,250 --> 01:47:06,126
designing asteroids, and
not as easy as you think.
1680
01:47:06,150 --> 01:47:09,587
And I remember many
of us in the mile-shop tried
1681
01:47:09,611 --> 01:47:13,000
to come up with something
that would look good.
1682
01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:17,977
And I think for some of the very
far ones we had used potatoes.
1683
01:47:18,001 --> 01:47:36,977
The biggest problem I
had is it just wasn't going
1684
01:47:37,001 --> 01:47:39,176
fast enough, and I was
running out of money.
1685
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,626
Every person was extremely good director,
1686
01:47:41,650 --> 01:47:43,977
but the film went over
budget, went over schedule,
1687
01:47:44,001 --> 01:47:47,001
and all the money I had at
Star Wars was committed to.
1688
01:47:47,025 --> 01:47:49,000
This film plus more.
1689
01:47:49,050 --> 01:47:52,000
We shot several scenes
in Empire over again.
1690
01:47:52,450 --> 01:47:54,809
There's a scene in
Cloud City where Han Solo
1691
01:47:54,833 --> 01:47:56,977
character is kind of
pacing up and down,
1692
01:47:57,001 --> 01:48:00,977
and Princess Leia comes in,
and he reacts to the way she looks,
1693
01:48:01,001 --> 01:48:05,676
because she's dressed differently than
she has in the entire rest of the film.
1694
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:07,220
You look beautiful.
1695
01:48:07,550 --> 01:48:10,226
You should wear girls clothes all the time.
1696
01:48:10,250 --> 01:48:12,977
We looked at the dailies, and we
weren't happy with anything, really.
1697
01:48:13,001 --> 01:48:16,000
The attitude of the actors was too obvious.
1698
01:48:16,350 --> 01:48:19,000
Sit down.
1699
01:48:19,225 --> 01:48:20,977
Come on, talk to me.
1700
01:48:21,001 --> 01:48:25,000
And we could have let that
go, but it just didn't feel right.
1701
01:48:25,450 --> 01:48:30,000
I hope Luke made it
to the fleet, all right?
1702
01:48:30,450 --> 01:48:32,000
I'm sure he's fine.
1703
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,826
I'm probably sitting around
wondering what we're up to right now.
1704
01:48:35,850 --> 01:48:40,074
You know, your friend Lando's
very charming, but I don't trust him.
1705
01:48:41,500 --> 01:48:43,300
It's an old friend of mine.
1706
01:48:50,900 --> 01:48:53,977
So we shot it in a
slightly more subtle
1707
01:48:54,001 --> 01:48:56,326
fashion, which is the
way it's in the film now.
1708
01:48:56,350 --> 01:48:57,977
I don't trust Lando.
1709
01:48:58,001 --> 01:48:59,977
Well, I don't trust him either.
1710
01:49:00,001 --> 01:49:02,000
He is my friend.
1711
01:49:02,500 --> 01:49:06,000
Besides, we're soon to go.
1712
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:13,000
And the nearest good is going, aren't you?
1713
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:15,977
Although most production
challenges had been
1714
01:49:16,001 --> 01:49:19,126
anticipated, and expectations
were understandably high,
1715
01:49:19,150 --> 01:49:22,017
when Empire went over
budget by $10 million.
1716
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:25,977
Lucasfilm suddenly
found itself in a fiscal crisis.
1717
01:49:26,001 --> 01:49:33,000
The forces with you young
Skywalker, you are not a Jedi yet.
1718
01:49:33,225 --> 01:49:35,977
Three of the top executives
of Bank America Entertainment
1719
01:49:36,001 --> 01:49:39,026
worked into my office saying
we have to pull you along.
1720
01:49:39,050 --> 01:49:42,526
And I said, how can the largest
bank in the entertainment business,
1721
01:49:42,550 --> 01:49:46,977
with the sequence of the most successful
movie ever out, be wanting to pull my own?
1722
01:49:47,001 --> 01:49:50,977
And I said, well, we have a new
credit manager, and he just has a rule.
1723
01:49:51,001 --> 01:49:51,977
Budget Douglass, he posed well.
1724
01:49:52,001 --> 01:49:54,134
One of the bankers quit over it.
1725
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:55,977
They knew it was a big
mistake, but, you know,
1726
01:49:56,001 --> 01:50:00,176
I was stuck with trying to make
a million dollar payroll that Friday.
1727
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,000
Release your anger.
1728
01:50:02,500 --> 01:50:05,000
Only your hatred can destroy me.
1729
01:50:08,001 --> 01:50:10,977
Oh, that was the big
difference between the
1730
01:50:11,001 --> 01:50:13,977
studio system and the
independent view filmmaking.
1731
01:50:14,001 --> 01:50:20,977
The studio have a large resource to draw on
for what they do, and independence don't.
1732
01:50:21,001 --> 01:50:22,977
So it's a much tighter situation.
1733
01:50:33,001 --> 01:50:35,977
I was just hoping the
bank to allow me to finish
1734
01:50:36,001 --> 01:50:41,000
without going back to 20th Century
Fox and giving away all my rights.
1735
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:42,977
Because that's ultimately
what my other choice was.
1736
01:50:43,001 --> 01:50:45,468
It was to just simply let them own it
1737
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,176
and lose my independence.
1738
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,326
But I wanted my independence so badly.
1739
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:51,076
We managed to do it
in a way that I paid them
1740
01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:52,977
just a little bit more
money, but they didn't get
1741
01:50:53,001 --> 01:50:55,977
any of the licensing and
get any of the sequels.
1742
01:50:56,001 --> 01:50:57,977
And that's what I was trying to hold on to.
1743
01:50:58,001 --> 01:51:00,026
If I had to pay the few extra
points in order to get them
1744
01:51:00,050 --> 01:51:03,250
to guarantee a loan with
the bank, I could do that.
1745
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:07,376
And I think Fox was just as concerned
that the movie get finished as we were.
1746
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,051
While Empire's budget may have been tight,
1747
01:51:10,075 --> 01:51:13,083
security during the
production was even tighter.
1748
01:51:13,450 --> 01:51:18,000
Only Lucas, Kirchner, and the
film's producers knew the real story.
1749
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:23,977
At the time, I knew that Mark had
a father and that it was Darth Vader.
1750
01:51:24,001 --> 01:51:26,068
But this was not in the script.
1751
01:51:26,300 --> 01:51:29,000
It was a false page inserted.
1752
01:51:29,950 --> 01:51:33,977
And I had the knowledge
the actors didn't even have it.
1753
01:51:34,001 --> 01:51:35,121
No one had it.
1754
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:35,977
It was a total secret.
1755
01:51:36,001 --> 01:51:38,001
Script was under lock and key.
1756
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:38,977
The models were under lock and key.
1757
01:51:39,001 --> 01:51:45,000
ILM was under lock and key and
shrouded from the rest of the world.
1758
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:49,000
The storyline of the movie
was under lock and key.
1759
01:51:49,025 --> 01:51:51,977
It was useless to resist.
1760
01:51:52,001 --> 01:51:53,977
The film's shocking climax,
1761
01:51:54,001 --> 01:51:57,977
in which Darth Vader reveals
Luke Skywalker's true parentage,
1762
01:51:58,001 --> 01:52:03,000
was kept as secret from nearly everyone,
even David Prouss and Mark Hamill.
1763
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:05,476
Hamill was told privately,
1764
01:52:05,500 --> 01:52:06,977
just moments before the cameras rolled.
1765
01:52:07,001 --> 01:52:10,000
I met with Mark and said,
1766
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,977
"You know, the Darth
Vader's your father.
1767
01:52:13,001 --> 01:52:14,001
" "What?"
1768
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:18,026
They had taken me aside and said,
"This is what he's really going to say.
1769
01:52:18,050 --> 01:52:20,183
And we're going to do the scene.
1770
01:52:20,450 --> 01:52:24,977
" And Darth Vader will be
saying stuff that doesn't count.
1771
01:52:25,001 --> 01:52:26,001
Forget it.
1772
01:52:26,500 --> 01:52:30,000
Use your own rhythm
compared to what he's doing.
1773
01:52:30,250 --> 01:52:41,977
There is no escape.
1774
01:52:42,001 --> 01:52:43,977
Don't make me destroy you.
1775
01:52:44,001 --> 01:52:45,276
We did a few takes,
1776
01:52:45,300 --> 01:52:46,977
and he finally got into it.
1777
01:52:47,001 --> 01:52:49,000
Join me,
1778
01:52:49,225 --> 01:52:50,977
and I will compete your training.
1779
01:52:51,001 --> 01:52:53,000
And here is Darth Vader,
1780
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:57,296
who had his dialogue, by the
way, and he's speaking the dialogue.
1781
01:52:57,900 --> 01:52:59,977
He thinks it's being recorded, you see.
1782
01:53:00,001 --> 01:53:00,977
He's not being recorded.
1783
01:53:01,001 --> 01:53:03,977
What's being recorded is this, this, this.
1784
01:53:04,001 --> 01:53:06,126
He said, "You don't know the truth.
1785
01:53:06,150 --> 01:53:08,000
Obi-Wan killed your father.
1786
01:53:08,125 --> 01:53:11,126
" And then, of course,
we re-recorded everything.
1787
01:53:11,150 --> 01:53:13,000
I'll never join you!
1788
01:53:13,225 --> 01:53:17,000
If you only knew the
power of the dark side.
1789
01:53:17,900 --> 01:53:20,000
When I first saw the dialogue,
1790
01:53:20,175 --> 01:53:22,977
that said, "Luke,
I am your father.
1791
01:53:23,001 --> 01:53:25,001
" I said himself, "He's lying.
1792
01:53:25,850 --> 01:53:27,000
1793
01:53:27,700 --> 01:53:30,476
And when are they
going to play that lie out?"
1794
01:53:30,500 --> 01:53:33,977
Obi-Wan never told you
what happened to your father.
1795
01:53:34,001 --> 01:53:36,000
He told me enough.
1796
01:53:38,125 --> 01:53:39,977
He told me you killed him.
1797
01:53:40,001 --> 01:53:40,977
No.
1798
01:53:41,001 --> 01:53:44,000
I am your father.
1799
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:47,977
And I screamed no, just
as it was meant to be.
1800
01:53:48,001 --> 01:53:49,977
No! No! Join me.
1801
01:53:50,001 --> 01:53:58,977
Together, we can rule the
galaxy as father and son.
1802
01:53:59,001 --> 01:54:12,000
I think that it went beyond stories.
1803
01:54:12,300 --> 01:54:14,977
You got to know the
characters in your better room.
1804
01:54:15,001 --> 01:54:17,000
You had some humor.
1805
01:54:17,175 --> 01:54:20,977
I thought of the film as a second movement.
1806
01:54:21,001 --> 01:54:24,977
That's why I wanted
some of the things slower.
1807
01:54:25,001 --> 01:54:31,977
And it ends in a way
that you can't wait to see
1808
01:54:32,001 --> 01:54:35,977
to hear the Vauci, the
next movie, the Allegreto.
1809
01:54:36,001 --> 01:54:39,000
I didn't have a climax at the end.
1810
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,000
I had an emotional climax.
1811
01:54:42,250 --> 01:54:44,426
As Empire's premier date approached,
1812
01:54:44,450 --> 01:54:46,977
the producers once again
held their collective breath.
1813
01:54:47,001 --> 01:55:04,000
When the Empire Strikes Back
finally opened on May 21st 1980,
1814
01:55:04,450 --> 01:55:05,977
it didn't meet expectations.
1815
01:55:06,001 --> 01:55:06,977
It surpassed them.
1816
01:55:07,001 --> 01:55:11,977
Within three months, George Lucas
had recovered his $33 million investment.
1817
01:55:12,001 --> 01:55:16,977
There was something about Empire that just
immediately just clicked when I saw it.
1818
01:55:17,001 --> 01:55:19,076
I didn't know how all the
romance was going to work
1819
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:22,977
and the adventure and it was a
too serious and all this sort of stuff.
1820
01:55:23,001 --> 01:55:24,977
But it really came together.
1821
01:55:25,001 --> 01:55:29,977
Intelligence Premier, cases of lightning
striking twice were rare in Hollywood.
1822
01:55:30,001 --> 01:55:32,468
Sequels were almost always a letdown.
1823
01:55:32,500 --> 01:55:35,977
But in the Star Wars
universe, different laws applied.
1824
01:55:36,001 --> 01:55:39,126
And George Lucas, the world's
most successful independent
1825
01:55:39,150 --> 01:55:41,977
filmmaker, was fast
becoming a law under himself.
1826
01:55:42,001 --> 01:55:45,000
In a radical move by Hollywood standards,
1827
01:55:45,100 --> 01:55:47,977
he shared Empire's profits
with every one of his employees,
1828
01:55:48,001 --> 01:55:51,977
handing out over $5
million in bonuses in 1980.
1829
01:55:52,001 --> 01:55:54,977
The profits from the two Star Wars films
1830
01:55:55,001 --> 01:55:59,977
also helped fuel Lucas' rapidly
expanding business enterprises.
1831
01:56:00,001 --> 01:56:03,326
We did have some money,
but it was still a startup company.
1832
01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:06,476
We could have messed it
up as much as we did it right.
1833
01:56:06,500 --> 01:56:07,977
But his ability to make successful movies
1834
01:56:08,001 --> 01:56:10,977
is what drove the financial
success of the company.
1835
01:56:11,001 --> 01:56:13,977
But how we used those
funds to grow the company
1836
01:56:14,001 --> 01:56:15,977
and why he's hasn't that
worked the way he does.
1837
01:56:16,001 --> 01:56:20,289
He was smart enough to understand
all the rights all the ancilaries.
1838
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:22,977
By financing the Empire Strikes Back
1839
01:56:23,001 --> 01:56:28,000
with his own money, George
Lucas had bet the farm and won.
1840
01:56:28,700 --> 01:56:32,176
In fact, he was in a position
to build his own kind of farm,
1841
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:36,000
Skywalker Ranch, in
Marin County, California.
1842
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:44,000
Lucas had long imagined
a visually inspiring setting
1843
01:56:44,425 --> 01:56:47,977
where his employees could
work in a creative atmosphere
1844
01:56:48,001 --> 01:56:51,126
and were friends like Steven
Spielberg, Robert Redford,
1845
01:56:51,150 --> 01:56:56,000
and Francis Ford Coppola could enjoy
working at a state of the art facility.
1846
01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:59,977
George was debating on
two different parcels of land.
1847
01:57:00,001 --> 01:57:04,000
One was on Lucas Valley Broad.
1848
01:57:04,275 --> 01:57:07,219
I said, "Well, that's the
one you have to pick.
1849
01:57:09,050 --> 01:57:17,000
" The company's structure
supported multi-movies in poll areas,
1850
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:20,000
merchandising special effects, ancilaries.
1851
01:57:20,150 --> 01:57:22,977
And so all the little
companies had to be started
1852
01:57:23,001 --> 01:57:25,977
and operated and have all
these systems put in place.
1853
01:57:26,001 --> 01:57:32,000
Lucas Arts, THX, Skywalker Sound,
1854
01:57:32,300 --> 01:57:35,977
Industrial Light and
Magic, each subsidiary of
1855
01:57:36,001 --> 01:57:39,265
Lucasfilm would serve
George Lucas' creative vision.
1856
01:57:39,350 --> 01:57:41,977
In turn, they
revolutionised a film industry
1857
01:57:42,001 --> 01:57:44,977
that had for too long been
played by complacency.
1858
01:57:45,001 --> 01:57:51,000
It was an idea of one person
and successfully implemented.
1859
01:57:51,150 --> 01:57:54,977
George has wanted a
more successful company in
1860
01:57:55,001 --> 01:57:56,977
the world and he can't
measure it just by size
1861
01:57:57,001 --> 01:58:00,977
because he doesn't need
the size of a fox or a one
1862
01:58:01,001 --> 01:58:05,977
to accomplish the same thing he's
accomplishing putting out his films.
1863
01:58:06,001 --> 01:58:11,977
As the sole owner of the
most successful franchise
1864
01:58:12,001 --> 01:58:14,977
in movie history, Lucas had
gained the financial means
1865
01:58:15,001 --> 01:58:18,977
and the creative freedom to
produce anything he wanted.
1866
01:58:19,001 --> 01:58:23,977
George's greatest strength as a
filmmaker is that he's a great storyteller.
1867
01:58:24,001 --> 01:58:24,977
George has a vision.
1868
01:58:25,001 --> 01:58:29,161
There are filmmakers down through
history like Capra and John Ford
1869
01:58:29,550 --> 01:58:32,151
and they made John Ford
pictures and Frank Capra pictures
1870
01:58:32,175 --> 01:58:34,026
and they made
Hitchcock-made Hitchcock films
1871
01:58:34,050 --> 01:58:36,977
and George Lucas makes
George Lucas pictures.
1872
01:58:37,001 --> 01:58:42,977
George Lucas had helped
turn the tide of Hollywood's
1873
01:58:43,001 --> 01:58:45,977
downbeat realism and brought
back a sense of fantasy and wonder.
1874
01:58:46,001 --> 01:58:50,000
Movies were fun again.
1875
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,000
But in the wake of Empire,
1876
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:55,977
the filmmaker found himself
unexpectedly mired in Hollywood politics.
1877
01:58:56,001 --> 01:59:00,977
To preserve the dramatic
opening sequences of his films,
1878
01:59:01,001 --> 01:59:03,977
Lucas wanted the screen credits
to come at the end of the movies.
1879
01:59:04,001 --> 01:59:07,000
It was a highly unusual choice.
1880
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,226
And for the first Star Wars,
1881
01:59:09,250 --> 01:59:12,376
the writer's guild and
director's guild had allowed it.
1882
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,176
But when Lucas did the same for the sequel,
1883
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,977
they find him over a
quarter of a million dollars
1884
01:59:17,001 --> 01:59:19,977
and even attempted to
pull Empire from theaters.
1885
01:59:20,001 --> 01:59:24,000
Next, the DGA went after Irvin Kirchner.
1886
01:59:24,225 --> 01:59:28,076
To protect his director, Lucas
paid all the fines to the guilds
1887
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:29,977
but the situation left him
feeling frustrated and persecuted.
1888
01:59:30,001 --> 01:59:32,000
1889
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:37,000
Lucas was so upset that he
dropped out of the director's guild,
1890
01:59:37,850 --> 01:59:39,370
the writer's guild,
1891
01:59:39,550 --> 01:59:41,676
and the motion picture association.
1892
01:59:41,700 --> 01:59:46,000
Another unfortunate
casualty in the wake of Empire
1893
01:59:46,250 --> 01:59:48,000
was Alan Ladd Jr.
1894
01:59:48,050 --> 01:59:50,977
Lucas' most vocal
supporter at 20th century Fox.
1895
01:59:51,001 --> 01:59:55,000
The criticism over the deal is what
1896
01:59:55,850 --> 01:59:58,000
And in my tenure at Fox, really,
1897
01:59:58,300 --> 02:00:01,200
because people were
very angry and irritated.
1898
02:00:02,150 --> 02:00:03,977
Even though they made
millions of dollars off it
1899
02:00:04,001 --> 02:00:09,000
and had a big fight stopped
out of the boardroom.
1900
02:00:10,950 --> 02:00:11,977
So that quit.
1901
02:00:12,001 --> 02:00:13,001
That was it.
1902
02:00:13,500 --> 02:00:18,000
20th century Fox ultimately paid
a heavy price for Ladd's departure
1903
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:21,126
with his longtime ally
gone from the studio.
1904
02:00:21,150 --> 02:00:23,977
Lucas decided to go to
Paramount with his latest movie idea
1905
02:00:24,001 --> 02:00:27,977
and action-adventure yarn
called Raiders of the Lost Ark.
1906
02:00:28,001 --> 02:00:36,977
George Lucas had fought and won the battle
to gain his independence as a filmmaker,
1907
02:00:37,001 --> 02:00:42,977
but the war between his rebel alliance
and the Galactic Empire was far from over.
1908
02:00:43,001 --> 02:00:47,161
As he began production on the
final chapter of his Star Wars saga,
1909
02:00:47,500 --> 02:00:52,426
he knew expectations among fans and
critics would be greater than ever before.
1910
02:00:52,450 --> 02:00:55,000
The project was a high-stakes gamble,
1911
02:00:55,050 --> 02:00:58,442
with Lucas once again
putting up every dollar himself.
1912
02:00:58,550 --> 02:01:03,501
Nothing about the film, not even the
smallest detail, could be taken for granted.
1913
02:01:03,525 --> 02:01:09,000
George came to me and
he said the title of episode 6
1914
02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:13,000
is Return of the Jedi.
1915
02:01:13,850 --> 02:01:17,000
And I said, "I think
it's a weak title.
1916
02:01:17,250 --> 02:01:18,977
" And he came back
one or two days later
1917
02:01:19,001 --> 02:01:22,977
and he says we're calling
it Revenge of the Jedi.
1918
02:01:23,001 --> 02:01:26,073
Choosing the film's title
was just the beginning.
1919
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:31,226
Jedi would require thousands of production
decisions on both sides of the globe.
1920
02:01:31,250 --> 02:01:35,000
We were constructing really
in two places in California,
1921
02:01:35,150 --> 02:01:38,000
shooting at ILM, that's three.
1922
02:01:38,350 --> 02:01:40,977
And of course, working and
shooting in London at the same time.
1923
02:01:41,001 --> 02:01:44,977
As Lucas discovered, independence
was a double-edged sword,
1924
02:01:45,001 --> 02:01:46,977
putting the director's
guild, made it impossible
1925
02:01:47,001 --> 02:01:51,000
for him to hire his first
choice, Steven Spielberg.
1926
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:53,977
Instead, Lucas chose
Welshman Richard Markwand,
1927
02:01:54,001 --> 02:01:58,000
best known for the World
War II thriller Eye of the Needle.
1928
02:01:58,650 --> 02:02:02,226
As the two met with Lawrence
Castin to discuss Jedi script,
1929
02:02:02,250 --> 02:02:03,977
a key issue was whether Harrison Ford,
1930
02:02:04,001 --> 02:02:08,977
who was now equally famous for the role
of Indiana Jones, would return as Han Solo.
1931
02:02:09,001 --> 02:02:13,977
The other actors after Star
Wars had signed on to do
1932
02:02:14,001 --> 02:02:15,977
two more because I wanted
to finish the whole thing.
1933
02:02:16,001 --> 02:02:16,977
I thought Han Solo did not.
1934
02:02:17,001 --> 02:02:18,026
He had the idea, well,
why don't you kill him off?
1935
02:02:18,050 --> 02:02:18,977
Why don't you kill him off?
1936
02:02:19,001 --> 02:02:23,000
I thought Han Solo should die.
1937
02:02:23,250 --> 02:02:27,276
I thought he ought to sacrifice
himself for the other two characters.
1938
02:02:27,300 --> 02:02:30,000
I also felt someone had to go.
1939
02:02:30,700 --> 02:02:34,000
You know, I felt someone had to die.
1940
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:36,977
I said he's got no mama, he's got no papa.
1941
02:02:37,001 --> 02:02:38,226
He's got no future.
1942
02:02:38,250 --> 02:02:44,000
He has no story
responsibilities at this point.
1943
02:02:44,150 --> 02:02:48,000
So it's allowing him
to commit self-sacrifice.
1944
02:02:48,700 --> 02:02:52,977
And I thought it should have
been very early in the last act
1945
02:02:53,001 --> 02:02:55,276
so that you would begin
to worry about everybody.
1946
02:02:55,300 --> 02:02:57,233
We should sacrifice somebody.
1947
02:02:57,750 --> 02:03:00,000
And George was against him.
1948
02:03:00,500 --> 02:03:02,977
And George knew what he
wanted and he got what he wanted.
1949
02:03:03,001 --> 02:03:04,977
Hey, it's me.
1950
02:03:05,001 --> 02:03:08,977
Once production began,
Lucas was determined not
1951
02:03:09,001 --> 02:03:11,126
to let the budget escalate
as it had on Empire.
1952
02:03:11,150 --> 02:03:12,150
Good luck.
1953
02:03:12,750 --> 02:03:13,977
You're going to need it.
1954
02:03:14,001 --> 02:03:16,977
It wasn't easy, given that the rest of
the world assumed money was no object.
1955
02:03:17,001 --> 02:03:20,977
Anytime you would go in and
try and negotiate for production
1956
02:03:21,001 --> 02:03:23,977
facilities or people
would say, oh, well,
1957
02:03:24,001 --> 02:03:26,601
that'll cost $2 when it
might normally cost $1.
1958
02:03:26,625 --> 02:03:28,977
So I had the suggestion that we
changed the name of the picture.
1959
02:03:29,001 --> 02:03:32,977
It was called Blue Harvest and the subline
behind it was horror beyond imagination.
1960
02:03:33,001 --> 02:03:34,977
Hey, camera.
1961
02:03:35,001 --> 02:03:38,076
The idea behind it was to come
up with a title that would instill
1962
02:03:38,100 --> 02:03:41,226
absolutely no interest
whatsoever in what you were doing.
1963
02:03:41,250 --> 02:03:43,977
It was like, well, what is Blue Harvest?
1964
02:03:44,001 --> 02:03:44,977
It's like, well, who cares?
1965
02:03:45,001 --> 02:03:50,000
It worked until Han and Luke and
Leah showed up to come to work.
1966
02:03:50,250 --> 02:03:53,977
And everybody went, oh, I guess
this really isn't Harvey on Imagination.
1967
02:03:54,001 --> 02:03:56,276
I guess this is really the
next Star Wars movie.
1968
02:03:56,300 --> 02:03:58,977
Revenge of the Jedi would
again reunite the Star Wars cast
1969
02:03:59,001 --> 02:04:02,977
and crew after six years
and two record-breaking
1970
02:04:03,001 --> 02:04:05,977
motion pictures had
formed a lasting bond.
1971
02:04:06,001 --> 02:04:12,000
We were with the same crew
for all three films for the most part.
1972
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:15,000
So it was, you know, a family.
1973
02:04:15,025 --> 02:04:21,000
I'm walking along by myself rehearsing,
1974
02:04:21,150 --> 02:04:26,014
getting something like Lando Calrissian
never returned from this awful place.
1975
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:26,977
And so on and so on.
1976
02:04:27,001 --> 02:04:30,977
Lando Calrissian and Portugal
never returned from this awful place.
1977
02:04:31,001 --> 02:04:33,977
And suddenly I hear
B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B.
1978
02:04:34,001 --> 02:04:38,977
And I turn around and George
is, George is now crouched
1979
02:04:39,001 --> 02:04:41,977
behind me, waddling
along, so on his home she is.
1980
02:04:42,001 --> 02:04:46,000
Going B, B, B, B, B, B, B,
B, it was a joyous moment.
1981
02:04:46,900 --> 02:04:49,977
Like it's predecessor,
Jedi continued to expand
1982
02:04:50,001 --> 02:04:51,977
the cast of characters
in the Star Wars saga.
1983
02:04:52,001 --> 02:04:56,000
Oh, what's that?
1984
02:04:56,625 --> 02:04:59,126
One of the biggest was
Intergalactic Gangster.
1985
02:04:59,150 --> 02:05:00,977
I knew that last.
1986
02:05:01,001 --> 02:05:02,977
Job of the Hat.
1987
02:05:03,001 --> 02:05:06,977
George said, "Oh,
I need something.
1988
02:05:07,001 --> 02:05:10,000
" That's, you know,
alien and grotesque.
1989
02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:13,977
It's like, like, Sydney Green Street.
1990
02:05:14,001 --> 02:05:15,977
Oh, okay.
1991
02:05:16,001 --> 02:05:22,000
When I had kind of gotten this
idea down to this big slug-like thing
1992
02:05:22,250 --> 02:05:24,977
that is just this big
pulsating mass of flesh.
1993
02:05:25,001 --> 02:05:26,977
At one point I put, I put
a head of FES on one
1994
02:05:27,001 --> 02:05:28,026
of the characters, like
Sydney Green Street.
1995
02:05:28,050 --> 02:05:31,126
And then Stuart Freemorn in
England, his job was to, you know,
1996
02:05:31,150 --> 02:05:32,977
fabricate the thing, and that was operated.
1997
02:05:33,001 --> 02:05:36,977
But one puppeteer for each
arm, two puppeteers for the arms.
1998
02:05:37,001 --> 02:05:40,977
Another guy doing the head, another guy
ready to control the guy doing the eyes.
1999
02:05:41,001 --> 02:05:44,126
There was like a couple little
people in it, you know, pulling
2000
02:05:44,150 --> 02:05:45,977
things to make the tail and move around.
2001
02:05:46,001 --> 02:05:48,000
It was kind of a thing.
2002
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,977
I had my little dwarf
sitting in, so I had
2003
02:05:52,001 --> 02:05:53,977
a little seat made
for him in the tail here.
2004
02:05:54,001 --> 02:05:55,977
And he operated it all.
2005
02:05:56,001 --> 02:05:58,977
And he was sitting there for
quite a few days doing this.
2006
02:05:59,001 --> 02:06:02,000
And if he operated the first one,
2007
02:06:02,550 --> 02:06:06,000
it made, with every wave, he pulled it.
2008
02:06:06,125 --> 02:06:08,977
He would either lift it up his or sideways.
2009
02:06:09,001 --> 02:06:11,977
You see, so it could make
that move in any direction.
2010
02:06:12,001 --> 02:06:12,977
And action.
2011
02:06:13,001 --> 02:06:22,000
At last, Master Luke's come to rescue me.
2012
02:06:22,275 --> 02:06:26,977
Now, Master Luke, I must be a lot to speak.
2013
02:06:27,001 --> 02:06:27,977
I must be a lot to speak.
2014
02:06:28,001 --> 02:06:28,977
And I must be a god.
2015
02:06:29,001 --> 02:06:30,977
No, I could.
2016
02:06:31,001 --> 02:06:32,977
Yeah, I must call.
2017
02:06:33,001 --> 02:06:36,000
Yeah, I must call.
2018
02:06:36,050 --> 02:06:37,977
This is too long.
2019
02:06:38,001 --> 02:06:38,977
This is too long.
2020
02:06:39,001 --> 02:06:40,977
I won't deny my name.
2021
02:06:41,001 --> 02:06:44,009
You will bring Captain
Solo in the wookie to me.
2022
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:12,977
Java has to pull the
rug out from under Luke,
2023
02:07:13,001 --> 02:07:15,977
and he falls into the pit, and
there's this big rank or pit monster.
2024
02:07:16,001 --> 02:07:27,000
George was really adamant that Luke
were going to do it as a man in a suit.
2025
02:07:27,950 --> 02:07:31,000
It was going to be like
a really cool Godzilla.
2026
02:07:31,025 --> 02:07:33,977
Tony McFae, one of the sculptors fabricated
2027
02:07:34,001 --> 02:07:38,000
this big rank or suit,
and based on my design.
2028
02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:41,977
I call it kind of a cross
between a bear and a potato.
2029
02:07:42,001 --> 02:07:46,977
It was just this big, dumb thing.
2030
02:07:47,001 --> 02:07:49,977
But it never looked that
great no matter what we did.
2031
02:07:50,001 --> 02:07:55,000
So at some point, George,
now let's do it some other way.
2032
02:07:55,350 --> 02:08:01,000
And so Dennis thought, well, let's
try and do it as a high speed puppet.
2033
02:08:01,900 --> 02:08:04,001
We designed the skeleton for rank,
2034
02:08:04,025 --> 02:08:08,977
or Tom Sanderman and Dave Sussol,
and I'm a puppeteer at the same time.
2035
02:08:13,001 --> 02:08:16,977
It was a crazy way of
working, because this thing,
2036
02:08:17,001 --> 02:08:20,977
it has to walk into a room
and turn around and roar.
2037
02:08:21,001 --> 02:08:24,977
And it's like a four-second shot, and
you're shooting at 90 frames a second.
2038
02:08:25,001 --> 02:08:26,977
You've got a second to shoot it.
2039
02:08:34,001 --> 02:08:42,977
ILM's creatures might have been puppets,
2040
02:08:43,001 --> 02:08:46,977
but they could still elicit an emotional
reaction from their human co-stars.
2041
02:08:47,001 --> 02:08:48,977
One even triggered a panic attack.
2042
02:08:51,001 --> 02:08:56,000
I got claustrophobia once, and it would--
I didn't even have the whole suit on.
2043
02:08:56,100 --> 02:08:57,176
I was lying on the floor.
2044
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:58,977
The camera is about that far away from me.
2045
02:08:59,001 --> 02:09:04,000
A salacious crumb, the wonderful
salacious crumb, animated by Tim Rose.
2046
02:09:05,001 --> 02:09:05,977
And he's pulling out my eye.
2047
02:09:08,001 --> 02:09:08,977
All right, take two.
2048
02:09:11,001 --> 02:09:13,001
And something went in my mind.
2049
02:09:13,150 --> 02:09:13,977
I didn't catch a breath or something.
2050
02:09:14,001 --> 02:09:17,977
And I suddenly could feel
panic just absorbing into my body.
2051
02:09:20,300 --> 02:09:23,201
And I think, get me out, get
me out, get me out, get me out.
2052
02:09:23,225 --> 02:09:27,977
And I just kept repeating it until
they managed to whizz the head off.
2053
02:09:29,001 --> 02:09:31,977
Daniels may have lost his head as 3 p.o.
2054
02:09:33,001 --> 02:09:34,977
But when it came to risking life and limb.
2055
02:09:36,001 --> 02:09:38,977
The production now had a team
of trained stunt professionals.
2056
02:09:46,001 --> 02:09:48,977
For the execution seen on Jabba's
barge, stunt performers dropped in
2057
02:09:49,001 --> 02:09:51,977
on the most ravenous
monster yet, the Sarlak.
2058
02:09:59,001 --> 02:10:02,977
It wasn't edited that way, but I
was the first guy to come off the skiff.
2059
02:10:03,001 --> 02:10:03,977
Into the pit.
2060
02:10:06,001 --> 02:10:08,977
Because I had to make sure it would
work and everybody's going to be all right.
2061
02:10:09,001 --> 02:10:10,977
But I had a lot of sand
coming on top of it.
2062
02:10:11,001 --> 02:10:13,977
But I was able to say to the
guys, if you go in, shut your eyes,
2063
02:10:14,001 --> 02:10:16,977
keep your butt closed, put
some cotton wool up your nose.
2064
02:10:17,001 --> 02:10:19,026
Otherwise, you'd be sniffing up sand.
2065
02:10:19,050 --> 02:10:20,977
Those three people
went in one off the other.
2066
02:10:21,001 --> 02:10:21,977
So it was one when they pulled him up.
2067
02:10:22,001 --> 02:10:24,201
The other one went in the building myself.
2068
02:10:24,225 --> 02:10:25,977
I mean, what was happening down below?
2069
02:10:26,001 --> 02:10:26,977
Comedy fell in the other zone.
2070
02:10:27,001 --> 02:10:28,977
I'm kind of a stick, yes.
2071
02:10:29,001 --> 02:10:30,977
But these are the public down soon.
2072
02:10:31,001 --> 02:10:33,977
Join.
2073
02:10:34,001 --> 02:10:34,977
Go ahead.
2074
02:10:38,001 --> 02:10:40,000
The baby, baby, take one.
2075
02:11:07,001 --> 02:11:11,977
Well, I was hanging on that rope with a
hand solo and he was trying to save me.
2076
02:11:12,001 --> 02:11:14,576
One of the squids went
right through my toe.
2077
02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:16,977
And I'm screaming to
the end, they'll stop, stop.
2078
02:11:17,001 --> 02:11:18,977
He's so busy acting.
2079
02:11:20,100 --> 02:11:21,977
Yeah, I'm like, get him in the chain.
2080
02:11:22,001 --> 02:11:23,977
And all of a sudden,
you realize that I got hurt.
2081
02:11:30,001 --> 02:11:30,977
I asked him, really.
2082
02:11:31,001 --> 02:11:31,977
He's one of those actors.
2083
02:11:32,001 --> 02:11:32,977
It gave his very intense.
2084
02:11:35,001 --> 02:11:37,026
He really gets into what he's doing.
2085
02:11:37,050 --> 02:11:38,977
So he was really into it.
2086
02:11:42,001 --> 02:11:45,297
For Carrie Fisher, getting
into the role of Leia this time,
2087
02:11:45,321 --> 02:11:48,126
meant fitting into a
skimpy slave girl costume.
2088
02:11:50,001 --> 02:11:52,257
I got to kill Jabba the Hutt.
2089
02:11:52,281 --> 02:11:55,801
But I was still much more
concerned about the slave girl
2090
02:11:56,050 --> 02:11:58,977
out fitting what I was
going to do about exercise.
2091
02:12:00,001 --> 02:12:01,457
Well, I'm say type two.
2092
02:12:01,481 --> 02:12:02,577
I am gay, cameras.
2093
02:12:02,601 --> 02:12:03,977
Good way, girl, I'm on my own.
2094
02:12:06,001 --> 02:12:11,617
And then George Lucas said, oh,
instead of attacking Jabba from the front
2095
02:12:11,641 --> 02:12:13,537
and be getting angry
with him and waking him,
2096
02:12:13,561 --> 02:12:15,577
I want Carrie Fisher
to jump on his back.
2097
02:12:15,601 --> 02:12:17,897
And then she got the R.L. shoes on.
2098
02:12:17,921 --> 02:12:21,577
And it happened to be that my little fellow
inside, it was only a fell of rubber.
2099
02:12:21,601 --> 02:12:23,937
And it went right into his head.
2100
02:12:23,961 --> 02:12:26,697
And he screamed his head
all the way up to the start.
2101
02:12:26,721 --> 02:12:28,217
Hold it.
2102
02:12:28,241 --> 02:12:31,617
Before they could
do the shot, again,
2103
02:12:31,641 --> 02:12:37,160
I had to build a little firm bit over the
top of his head so she could get up.
2104
02:12:37,210 --> 02:12:38,377
Pick three, pick up.
2105
02:12:38,401 --> 02:12:39,417
I am beaten up.
2106
02:12:39,441 --> 02:12:40,817
My ground panic, go.
2107
02:12:40,841 --> 02:12:42,257
OK, that's right.
2108
02:12:54,841 --> 02:12:56,417
That was a great relief.
2109
02:12:56,441 --> 02:12:58,817
He was an unpleasant thing.
2110
02:12:58,841 --> 02:13:01,697
It was a mug in the corner of the mouth.
2111
02:13:01,721 --> 02:13:03,106
And I never really liked that.
2112
02:13:07,441 --> 02:13:08,697
Let's go, and don't get the joy.
2113
02:13:10,601 --> 02:13:23,537
For the veteran cast
members, bringing something
2114
02:13:23,561 --> 02:13:26,257
fresh to their characters
was often difficult.
2115
02:13:26,281 --> 02:13:28,617
Don't move.
2116
02:13:28,641 --> 02:13:30,377
I love you.
2117
02:13:30,401 --> 02:13:31,617
I know.
2118
02:13:31,641 --> 02:13:34,457
It's gone now.
2119
02:13:34,481 --> 02:13:37,137
Another challenge on the
set was Richard MarkKwan's
2120
02:13:37,161 --> 02:13:40,177
relative inexperience
with special effects.
2121
02:13:40,201 --> 02:13:47,897
It's a difficult thing to do, you know, work
on the one hand with the special effects
2122
02:13:47,921 --> 02:13:56,137
and on the other hand with a storyline with
actors and making those two things merry.
2123
02:13:56,161 --> 02:13:58,906
I hadn't realized that
ultimately it's probably easier
2124
02:13:58,930 --> 02:14:01,377
for me to do these things
and to farm them out
2125
02:14:01,401 --> 02:14:04,006
because it was even more
complex than the last one.
2126
02:14:04,030 --> 02:14:06,817
I really did have to end up
being there every day on the set
2127
02:14:06,841 --> 02:14:09,217
and working very closely with
Richard and shooting second unit.
2128
02:14:09,241 --> 02:14:12,720
And there was really
more work than I thought
2129
02:14:12,845 --> 02:14:13,977
it was going to be.
2130
02:14:14,001 --> 02:14:16,457
Under Lucas' supervision, the production
2131
02:14:16,481 --> 02:14:19,257
moved to the Redwood
Forest of Northern California.
2132
02:14:19,281 --> 02:14:20,097
Be camera.
2133
02:14:20,121 --> 02:14:24,937
They are the photograph one of the
film's most exhilarating action sequences.
2134
02:14:24,961 --> 02:14:25,737
Hey, wait.
2135
02:14:25,761 --> 02:14:26,777
The speeder by Chase.
2136
02:14:28,841 --> 02:14:30,017
Wait, Jan, they're fondly.
2137
02:14:30,041 --> 02:14:30,737
That is which.
2138
02:14:33,721 --> 02:14:38,697
I got the idea of using a steady can.
2139
02:14:38,721 --> 02:14:42,737
When we did a test in a local park here,
2140
02:14:42,761 --> 02:14:47,937
of walking through the woods on
a path that we kind of disguised.
2141
02:14:47,961 --> 02:14:51,337
And he shot with a camera that
shot one frame of film every second.
2142
02:14:51,361 --> 02:14:56,697
So when you projected back 24 frames
a second, it's going 24 times faster.
2143
02:14:56,721 --> 02:14:59,266
And we figured he walked
about five miles an hour.
2144
02:14:59,290 --> 02:15:01,976
It came in two about 100
miles an hour and it looked great.
2145
02:15:36,150 --> 02:15:39,600
Jan, I surprised audiences
with its imaginative scope.
2146
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:42,080
Both large and small.
2147
02:15:42,655 --> 02:15:45,577
It introduced a tiny but
valiant new ally to the rebellion.
2148
02:15:45,601 --> 02:15:49,577
A race of pint-sized
warriors known as Ewoks.
2149
02:15:49,601 --> 02:15:50,601
An action.
2150
02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:53,577
Hey, point that thing someplace else.
2151
02:15:55,601 --> 02:16:04,577
Joining the cast was Warwick Davis,
2152
02:16:04,601 --> 02:16:09,600
who was just a youngster at the
time, but also a die-hard Star Wars fan.
2153
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:11,577
I was an 11-year-old boy at school.
2154
02:16:11,601 --> 02:16:17,577
And my grandmother happened to hear a radio
commercial on the London radio station.
2155
02:16:17,601 --> 02:16:20,673
And they were putting
out a call for short people
2156
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:23,600
to be in this new Star Wars movie.
2157
02:16:24,575 --> 02:16:27,577
I don't think anybody on the
movie was quite as excited as I was.
2158
02:16:27,601 --> 02:16:31,889
Being an 11-year-old on the Star
Wars set, there was no stopping me.
2159
02:16:32,250 --> 02:16:37,577
In the role of Wicked, Davis became the
film's most prominently featured Ewoks.
2160
02:16:37,601 --> 02:16:40,737
But only after Kenny
Baker was suddenly taken ill.
2161
02:16:41,450 --> 02:16:44,714
I had this scene with Carrie
and the speed of bikes.
2162
02:16:44,900 --> 02:16:47,577
And California and the redwoods.
2163
02:16:47,601 --> 02:16:48,577
I know looking forward to this.
2164
02:16:48,601 --> 02:16:49,577
I thought, well, not Carrie's nice.
2165
02:16:49,601 --> 02:16:51,577
I like working with Carrie.
2166
02:16:51,601 --> 02:16:52,577
Come in the morning of the shoot.
2167
02:16:52,601 --> 02:16:57,600
Kenny was very ill and bad with
what I believe was food poisoning.
2168
02:16:57,650 --> 02:17:01,577
I was seriously in pain.
2169
02:17:01,601 --> 02:17:04,577
And said, well, we've got to do it
because we've got Carrie Fisher in.
2170
02:17:04,601 --> 02:17:07,600
We've got the scene that sets up.
2171
02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:09,600
So work took over.
2172
02:17:09,850 --> 02:17:11,577
72-8, take two.
2173
02:17:11,601 --> 02:17:12,577
I am beat camera.
2174
02:17:12,601 --> 02:17:13,641
Don't forget.
2175
02:17:13,700 --> 02:17:17,577
And they called me in
to play the scene instead.
2176
02:17:17,601 --> 02:17:18,601
Action.
2177
02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:27,600
Cut it out!
2178
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:31,600
I had a dog at the time.
2179
02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:34,726
And I remember whenever
he would hear a strange noise,
2180
02:17:34,750 --> 02:17:37,676
he would tilt his head from
side to side to look inquisitive.
2181
02:17:37,700 --> 02:17:42,600
And I took those kind of movements
and used them in the character.
2182
02:17:42,700 --> 02:17:47,692
So whenever he sees something or hears
a strange sound, he would tilt his head.
2183
02:17:48,350 --> 02:17:51,600
115 S-8-3, 8 camera mark.
2184
02:17:52,900 --> 02:17:54,577
What did he say he was?
2185
02:17:54,601 --> 02:17:55,961
He says look out.
2186
02:18:21,600 --> 02:18:23,577
I like you, Ox.
2187
02:18:23,601 --> 02:18:30,577
And I think they're in there to really
show that you don't need technology.
2188
02:18:30,601 --> 02:18:35,600
You need the will and the belief
to take you through anything.
2189
02:18:35,650 --> 02:18:39,600
And the fact that, you
know, the ewoks were able
2190
02:18:39,700 --> 02:18:42,076
to defeat the empire and
using ropes and rocks.
2191
02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:46,004
I think that said something
about them as a race of creatures.
2192
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:47,577
Why does it come again?
2193
02:18:47,601 --> 02:18:50,577
Doesn't matter how much
machinery you've had.
2194
02:18:50,601 --> 02:18:58,577
If the will of the people of
the storm, they will always win.
2195
02:18:58,601 --> 02:19:00,600
You failed your Highness.
2196
02:19:00,950 --> 02:19:02,600
I am a Jedi.
2197
02:19:02,900 --> 02:19:04,600
Like my father before me.
2198
02:19:04,850 --> 02:19:06,600
And action.
2199
02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:21,577
As filming on Revenge of the Jedi drew
closer to completion, emotions ran high.
2200
02:19:21,601 --> 02:19:28,577
And same goodbye would be difficult.
2201
02:19:28,601 --> 02:19:36,577
Because we're finished in the third one,
2202
02:19:36,601 --> 02:19:39,188
we really have the sense
of it was the end that
2203
02:19:39,212 --> 02:19:42,012
they're going to tie
up all the loose ends.
2204
02:19:42,150 --> 02:19:47,600
There was a kind of clearing ear locker out
at the end of the semester feel to it all.
2205
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:51,101
So part of me was saying, "Oh,
I'm so glad to put this behind me.
2206
02:19:51,125 --> 02:19:52,925
" And the other aspect was,
2207
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:55,577
"Well, what about all the
adventures that Luke could have?"
2208
02:19:55,601 --> 02:20:06,600
For the moment, George Lucas was totally
focused on completing his epic trilogy.
2209
02:20:06,900 --> 02:20:10,726
He weighed every decision,
including a change in Jedi's title
2210
02:20:10,750 --> 02:20:12,577
just weeks before it opened.
2211
02:20:12,601 --> 02:20:16,577
Just before it got to the theaters,
George came back and he said,
2212
02:20:16,601 --> 02:20:19,600
"I want to go back
to return of the Jedi.
2213
02:20:20,150 --> 02:20:25,600
" Now, the logic behind that was
that Jedi does not take revenge.
2214
02:20:25,700 --> 02:20:31,577
Return of the Jedi opened
on Wednesday, May 25, 1983,
2215
02:20:31,601 --> 02:20:35,600
exactly six years from the day
that Star Wars made its debut.
2216
02:20:35,900 --> 02:20:39,600
On its first day,
the film took in $6.
2217
02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:42,415
2 million, making it the
biggest opening day box office
2218
02:20:42,439 --> 02:20:44,577
in history by nearly
a million dollars.
2219
02:20:44,601 --> 02:20:53,600
But for George Lucas, completing
the trilogy involved personal sacrifice,
2220
02:20:54,250 --> 02:20:57,600
the success of Jedi would
be bittersweet at best.
2221
02:20:58,700 --> 02:21:00,585
The challenge is always
trying to do something
2222
02:21:00,609 --> 02:21:03,251
that's all consuming
with having a private life.
2223
02:21:03,275 --> 02:21:06,377
And I had made the
decision after Star Wars
2224
02:21:06,401 --> 02:21:09,600
that I had certain
goals in my private life.
2225
02:21:09,950 --> 02:21:12,126
One was to be independent of Hollywood.
2226
02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:13,577
The other one ultimately
was to have a family.
2227
02:21:13,601 --> 02:21:16,577
They finished the return of the Jedi.
2228
02:21:16,601 --> 02:21:17,577
I figured that was the end of it for me.
2229
02:21:17,601 --> 02:21:20,676
I figured, "Well, I've done
it. I finished my trilogy.
2230
02:21:20,700 --> 02:21:21,577
" This is what I
started out to do.
2231
02:21:21,601 --> 02:21:25,577
This was determined to get finished
and it was overwhelming and difficult.
2232
02:21:25,601 --> 02:21:27,577
But fate has a way of stepping in.
2233
02:21:27,601 --> 02:21:33,577
I ended up getting divorced
right as the film Jedi was finished.
2234
02:21:33,601 --> 02:21:37,600
And I was left raised my daughter.
2235
02:21:41,900 --> 02:21:46,600
With the profits he made from the
Star Wars movies and merchandise,
2236
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,619
George Lucas was able to
keep funding his dream of
2237
02:21:49,643 --> 02:21:52,826
pushing the boundaries of
film and audio technology.
2238
02:21:52,850 --> 02:21:57,778
For the next two decades, he continued
to create new and exciting innovations.
2239
02:21:57,950 --> 02:22:02,600
And in the process, he fundamentally
changed filmmaking for the better.
2240
02:22:02,950 --> 02:22:06,019
In 1984, Lucasfilm
revolutionized motion
2241
02:22:06,043 --> 02:22:09,600
picture editing with
editroid and sound droid,
2242
02:22:09,850 --> 02:22:13,600
the world's first nonlinear
digital editing systems.
2243
02:22:13,650 --> 02:22:16,688
For the first time, filmmakers
could instantly access
2244
02:22:16,712 --> 02:22:19,848
any frame or audio track
at the touch of a button.
2245
02:22:19,950 --> 02:22:24,577
In 1985, Lucasfilm's computer
division invented the Pixar computer,
2246
02:22:24,601 --> 02:22:30,577
helping generate a new form of animation
characterized by three-dimensional realism.
2247
02:22:30,601 --> 02:22:35,577
The division was later sold and
became Pixar Animation Studios,
2248
02:22:35,601 --> 02:22:39,600
the creator of such instant
classics as Toy Story.
2249
02:22:40,050 --> 02:22:42,577
The digital breakthroughs that
Lucas himself had ushered in
2250
02:22:42,601 --> 02:22:46,600
would eventually lead him
back full circle to Star Wars.
2251
02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:50,925
In 1993, after helping
create ILM's groundbreaking
2252
02:22:50,949 --> 02:22:54,577
effects in Steven
Spielberg's Jurassic Park,
2253
02:22:54,601 --> 02:23:00,600
Lucas concluded that digital technology had
finally caught up to his original vision.
2254
02:23:00,725 --> 02:23:06,600
In 1997, he would revisit and
perfect his galactic saga at last,
2255
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:10,600
with the Star Wars trilogy Special Edition.
2256
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:15,876
For an entire generation,
people have experienced Star
2257
02:23:15,900 --> 02:23:20,600
Wars the only way it's been
possible on the TV screen.
2258
02:23:20,750 --> 02:23:25,600
But if you've only seen it this
way, you haven't seen it at all.
2259
02:23:26,600 --> 02:23:44,577
Things I couldn't afford to do at the
time, things that I had to give up on,
2260
02:23:44,601 --> 02:23:48,626
because I just didn't have the
time or money, or the power to do it.
2261
02:23:48,650 --> 02:23:54,577
I was able to go in, complete the phones
the way I originally intended them to be,
2262
02:23:54,601 --> 02:23:57,577
and have it be pretty much
the way I want them to be.
2263
02:23:57,601 --> 02:24:08,577
In 1999, 22 years after
the original premiere,
2264
02:24:08,601 --> 02:24:12,600
Lucas introduced Episode
1, The Phantom Menace.
2265
02:24:13,275 --> 02:24:17,376
The film marked the beginning of
another trilogy for a new generation.
2266
02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:21,577
It also allowed Lucas to continue his
pioneering use of digital technology.
2267
02:24:21,601 --> 02:24:25,145
I'm finishing this for the
love of Star Wars, I like
2268
02:24:25,169 --> 02:24:28,600
Star Wars, I want to see
the whole thing finished.
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For more than three decades,
George Lucas's passion and
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dedication to the Star Wars saga
has brought its share of rewards.
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But like the force itself,
success also has its dark side.
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What I was trying to
do is stay independent
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so I could make the
movies I wanted to make.
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But at the same time,
I was sort of fighting
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the corporate system,
which I didn't like,
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and I'm not happy with the fact that
corporations have taken over the film industry,
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but now I found myself being
the head of a corporation.
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So there's a certain
irony there is that I have
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become the very thing
that I was trying to avoid,
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which is basically what
part of Star Wars is about.
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That is Darth Vader, he
becomes the very thing
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that he's trying to
protect himself against.
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But at the same time,
I feel good that I'm able
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to make my movies the
way I want them to be.
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Well, George Lucas has
remained true to his own vision.
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It's been audiences everywhere
who've reaped the rewards.
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Ever since May 1977, when moviegoers first
caught sight of that galaxy far, far away.
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The themes the George is dealing
with are so strong, so primordial.
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The conflicts between
children and their parents.
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Luke Skywalker was George growing up.
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George facing her conflict
and the need to prove himself.
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And he did, powerfully.
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George was somehow able to
pick the good guys and the bad
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guys in mythology in a package
that somehow touched us.
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I don't know how.
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I guess if you know how,
everybody would be doing it.
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Dude, I'll do not. There is no try.
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I am so pleased to be a
part of that whole legend,
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even as an observer,
and I am just an observer.
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Most impressive.
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He's created people at
everyone in the world knows.
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Any author that could
create such memorable
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characters would be a
very happy person indeed.
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Laughing up, Fuzzball.
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He really established the
independent film market.
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His films changed epic productions.
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He changed storytelling.
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He created what Hollywood is today.
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I'm out of it for a little while, everybody
gets the conclusions and grandeur.
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George was creating a
new world for Hollywood,
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and we were lucky
enough to be a part of it.
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Come on!
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He's not just the creator and
director, now he is the studio.
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He can make exactly the
movie that he wants to make.
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We'll be one as taught you well.
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One of the things that George Lucas
has done in Star Wars is to communicate, in
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fact, with the younger self that resides
somewhere inside, even the oldest person.
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I think our cultural imagination has been transformed
by Lucas's films, by taking us back to stories
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that make us all feel that we share in the heroic
journey of the human species on this earth.
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The Force will be with you always.
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George Lucas moved us into a
new place and space, a new time,
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in the future, which no one
else had created up to that time.
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Star Wars had a tremendous
impact on the young
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people, as well as the
adults for that matter.
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I've committed myself
to making these movies.
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I believe in these movies.
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I think they're very entertaining,
and I think that if I can get a
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room full of people and enjoy it,
then I've done whatever I hope to do.
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For George Lucas, what began as
a quest for creative freedom became
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a philosophy, a cultural
phenomenon, and an empire of dreams.
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