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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,450 --> 00:00:06,977 I'm Luke Skywalker. I'm here to rescue you. 2 00:00:07,001 --> 00:00:11,977 It is the most popular space adventure of all time. 3 00:00:12,001 --> 00:00:13,977 Exciting is haunted the word I would choose. 4 00:00:14,001 --> 00:00:18,000 It's one of the most groundbreaking sagas in Hollywood history. 5 00:00:18,250 --> 00:00:19,977 You want to stop us this time? 6 00:00:20,001 --> 00:00:22,977 It captured imaginations with an irresistible force. 7 00:00:23,001 --> 00:00:25,977 You've taken your first step into a larger world. 8 00:00:26,001 --> 00:00:29,977 And catapulted three young performers to superstar them. 9 00:00:30,001 --> 00:00:32,977 I got him! Great kid! Don't get cocky! 10 00:00:33,001 --> 00:00:35,882 My whole life was changed by the opportunities 11 00:00:35,906 --> 00:00:38,977 that came to me through the success of Star Wars. 12 00:00:39,001 --> 00:00:45,977 It really is a wonderful morality tale. I'll never turn to the dark side. 13 00:00:46,001 --> 00:00:52,977 It's George's vision and he truly is a visual man in a profound way. 14 00:00:53,001 --> 00:00:57,977 But the Star Wars trilogy didn't just change the way we look at movies. 15 00:00:58,001 --> 00:01:00,977 It changed the way that movies are made. 16 00:01:01,001 --> 00:01:03,977 You're rushed under what you have been. 17 00:01:04,001 --> 00:01:07,006 There's so many accomplishments that George has done 18 00:01:07,030 --> 00:01:09,977 that really has changed the business as we know it. 19 00:01:10,001 --> 00:01:11,977 We did it! 20 00:01:12,001 --> 00:01:14,910 What began as a galactic fairy tale became a 21 00:01:14,934 --> 00:01:17,977 success story beyond one man's wildest dreams. 22 00:01:18,001 --> 00:01:23,000 The Force will be with you. Almost. I expect it not to ever make a hit movie. 23 00:01:23,150 --> 00:01:28,977 That wasn't my agenda. I certainly didn't expect Star Wars to be this giant hit. 24 00:01:29,001 --> 00:01:34,977 But it became such a phenomena. 25 00:01:35,001 --> 00:02:04,000 It's hard to remember a time before Star Wars. 26 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,977 The world was different then. 27 00:02:11,001 --> 00:02:14,977 There were no cell phones or personal computers. 28 00:02:15,001 --> 00:02:17,977 The internet was years away. 29 00:02:18,001 --> 00:02:20,977 Even home video had yet to catch on. 30 00:02:21,001 --> 00:02:22,977 The space race was over. 31 00:02:23,001 --> 00:02:25,977 What? All that for man. 32 00:02:26,001 --> 00:02:29,977 Americans felt deeply mired in the present. 33 00:02:30,001 --> 00:02:34,977 It was a time of economic inflation and rising oil prices. 34 00:02:35,001 --> 00:02:38,977 And the nation had grown cynical about its heroes and its leaders. 35 00:02:39,001 --> 00:02:40,977 Well I'm not a crook. 36 00:02:41,001 --> 00:02:44,000 In our country Watergate Torah support. 37 00:02:44,250 --> 00:02:47,258 And then we have the Vietnam War on top of that, 38 00:02:47,375 --> 00:02:49,977 which for dividing the nation like nothing else had. 39 00:02:50,001 --> 00:02:54,977 It was a terrible decade of great storm and violence in our history. 40 00:02:55,001 --> 00:02:59,977 On the big screen Hollywood's view was equally grim. 41 00:03:00,001 --> 00:03:05,977 The films of the early 1970s were gritty and often downbeat. 42 00:03:06,001 --> 00:03:10,000 A reflection of America's social and political upheaval. 43 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:14,401 Instead of old-fashioned heroes, the screen was dominated 44 00:03:14,425 --> 00:03:18,000 by hard-nosed anti-heroes who broke all the rules. 45 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,976 In the late '60s, the Warner's, the Xanax, all the people 46 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,977 who started the studios in the first place were retiring. 47 00:03:26,001 --> 00:03:29,137 And they were selling the studios to corporations. 48 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,276 They were beverage companies and all kinds of other, they were in other businesses. 49 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,977 They didn't know at all how to run a movie studio. 50 00:03:36,001 --> 00:03:37,911 All they know is if the marketing department 51 00:03:37,935 --> 00:03:39,977 said people want to see this and you make that. 52 00:03:40,001 --> 00:03:41,977 So they started marketing pictures and studying 53 00:03:42,001 --> 00:03:43,977 the demographics and all these kinds of things. 54 00:03:44,001 --> 00:03:45,999 And they realized that there was a market for 55 00:03:46,023 --> 00:03:47,977 films made by young people for young people. 56 00:03:48,001 --> 00:03:51,326 The young person was becoming a bigger part of their market. 57 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:54,977 The studio system that lasted for decades had now collapsed. 58 00:03:55,001 --> 00:03:59,575 And Hollywood executives, desperate to connect with younger audiences, 59 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:03,977 turned to film schools to find the next generation of movie makers. 60 00:04:04,001 --> 00:04:04,977 Action! 61 00:04:05,001 --> 00:04:10,977 It was in this atmosphere of change that gifted young directors like Francis Ford Coppola, Brian 62 00:04:11,001 --> 00:04:17,081 DiPoma, Martin Scorsese, and Steven Spielberg brought a more personal sensibility to the screen. 63 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,591 It was a state of confusion and a lot of filmmakers got to make 64 00:04:21,615 --> 00:04:25,276 projects that they ordinarily wouldn't have gotten to make. 65 00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:27,226 And I got caught right in the middle of it. 66 00:04:27,250 --> 00:04:32,770 George was the kind of maverick from Northern California, an independent filmmaker 67 00:04:32,794 --> 00:04:37,977 who was always extremely proud that he had very few attachments to Hollywood. 68 00:04:38,001 --> 00:04:43,977 Born in Modesto, California, George Lucas grew up reading 69 00:04:44,001 --> 00:04:50,977 adventure stories and watching movie serials on television. 70 00:04:51,001 --> 00:05:02,000 But it wasn't until college that his own dreams of filmmaking began to surface. 71 00:05:02,450 --> 00:05:05,390 In 1963, he left Modesto to attend film classes 72 00:05:05,414 --> 00:05:07,977 at the University of Southern California. 73 00:05:08,001 --> 00:05:13,977 I was teaching at USC, and George was in one of the seminars. 74 00:05:14,001 --> 00:05:19,000 We talked about some of his early attempts at filmmaking. 75 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:25,000 And I'll tell you right from the beginning, George had a unique vision. 76 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:28,421 George was a guy that thought out of the box, as 77 00:05:28,445 --> 00:05:32,000 you can certainly see by his student film THX-1138. 78 00:05:32,125 --> 00:05:45,000 And he shot a film that was 20 minutes long, supposed to be five minutes. 79 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,720 But he got a great deal of recognition and openly eyes of the professors that 80 00:05:50,744 --> 00:05:55,977 kids could do something out of the box beyond what the restrictions were. 81 00:05:56,001 --> 00:06:01,977 Lucas won a claim for his technical skills and imagination as a storyteller. 82 00:06:02,001 --> 00:06:06,977 His interest in mythology and philosophy gave his work an added dimension. 83 00:06:07,001 --> 00:06:10,000 George's style was fantastic. 84 00:06:10,250 --> 00:06:14,000 Incredible. 85 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:17,000 I don't care what he was doing. 86 00:06:17,450 --> 00:06:22,977 It just looked more personal than some of the other work. 87 00:06:23,001 --> 00:06:28,615 After graduating from USC, Lucas joined his friend Francis Ford Coppola in San 88 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:34,977 Francisco, where in 1969 Coppola founded American Zoetrope, an independent film company. 89 00:06:35,001 --> 00:06:40,446 I came up with no intention of actually becoming successful, but I did have a very strong 90 00:06:40,470 --> 00:06:45,977 feeling about being able to be in control of my work and not having people tamper with it. 91 00:06:46,001 --> 00:06:53,000 In 1971, Lucas directed THX-1138, a theatrical feature based on his student film. 92 00:06:53,750 --> 00:06:59,526 But when Warner Brothers executives saw the finished product, they demanded Coppola 93 00:06:59,550 --> 00:07:05,000 return the $300,000 the studio had advanced to develop THX and other projects. 94 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:08,977 The fledgling company imploded, and Lucas had defined work elsewhere. 95 00:07:09,001 --> 00:07:12,639 He decided to take matters into his own hands 96 00:07:12,663 --> 00:07:15,977 and start his own company, Lucasfilm Ltd. 97 00:07:16,001 --> 00:07:20,310 For his first project under this new banner, Lucas chose American 98 00:07:20,334 --> 00:07:25,000 Graffiti, an affectionate look at teenage cruising in the early 1960s. 99 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:28,977 "I'm already dead, we'll get Ben Turkey. 100 00:07:29,001 --> 00:07:33,477 " Produced by Universal Studios, it was loosely based on his 101 00:07:33,501 --> 00:07:37,977 own experiences as a car enthusiast growing up in Modesto. 102 00:07:38,001 --> 00:07:42,551 "I had gone from being extremely experimental and hard-edged, 103 00:07:42,575 --> 00:07:47,000 and then really taking up a challenge that Francis gave me. 104 00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:49,907 I bet you can't do it out just a silly comedy, 105 00:07:49,931 --> 00:07:52,977 kind of warm and fuzzy comedy, so I'll try that. 106 00:07:53,001 --> 00:07:59,000 " The film was shot in just 28 days for under a million dollars. 107 00:07:59,050 --> 00:08:03,000 Coppreducing was another USC alumnus, Gary Kurtz. 108 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:08,037 Toward the end of the post-production on American Graffiti, we 109 00:08:08,061 --> 00:08:12,977 organized a screening at the North Point Cinema in San Francisco. 110 00:08:13,001 --> 00:08:16,977 And we felt the reaction to the film was quite positive. 111 00:08:17,001 --> 00:08:19,977 But Ned Tennant from Universal was very upset. 112 00:08:20,001 --> 00:08:22,502 He said you shouldn't be showing it to an audience 113 00:08:22,526 --> 00:08:25,326 at this stage, and we were totally flabbergasted. 114 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:27,568 "My first film I didn't understand, and I meld with it 115 00:08:27,592 --> 00:08:30,001 after it was all finished, same thing with my second film. 116 00:08:30,025 --> 00:08:34,977 The corporate entity came in, and Jerry rigged with it, cut five minutes out. 117 00:08:35,001 --> 00:08:39,387 " But even before the release of American Graffiti, 118 00:08:39,411 --> 00:08:43,977 George Lucas' imagination was pointed at the stars. 119 00:08:44,001 --> 00:08:47,447 All during this time, he was talking about the fact that he 120 00:08:47,471 --> 00:08:50,977 would like to do a flash cord in kind of 1930's space opera. 121 00:08:51,001 --> 00:08:56,977 And he started working on that interest. 122 00:08:57,001 --> 00:09:02,000 And people said, "All things to pick, why in the world would you do that?" 123 00:09:02,175 --> 00:09:06,977 They said, "Well, you know, it's fun to make films for young people. 124 00:09:07,001 --> 00:09:09,977 It's a chance to sort of make an impression on them. 125 00:09:10,001 --> 00:09:12,977 " I want to do this. 126 00:09:13,001 --> 00:09:18,000 With his galactic fairy tale, Lucas hoped to reinvent a classic genre. 127 00:09:19,250 --> 00:09:22,977 Among his influences were the writings of scholar and educator Joseph Campbell, 128 00:09:23,001 --> 00:09:26,977 in which he explored the origins of myth and world religions. 129 00:09:27,001 --> 00:09:29,531 When Lucas was writing the script of Star Wars, 130 00:09:29,555 --> 00:09:32,276 he was heavily interested in Joseph Campbell. 131 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:34,973 What Joseph Campbell was interested in was to see the 132 00:09:34,997 --> 00:09:37,977 connections between myths, the myths of different cultures, 133 00:09:38,001 --> 00:09:40,396 to try to find out what were the threads that 134 00:09:40,420 --> 00:09:42,977 tied all these very disparate cultures together. 135 00:09:43,001 --> 00:09:48,276 I did research to try to distill everything down into motifs that would be universal. 136 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:50,389 I attribute most the success to the psychological 137 00:09:50,413 --> 00:09:52,977 underpinnings which have been around for thousands of years, 138 00:09:53,001 --> 00:09:56,076 and the people still react the same way to the stories as they always have. 139 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:59,000 George is nothing if not a good reporter. 140 00:09:59,550 --> 00:10:02,251 And when he sets out to do his work, he starts 141 00:10:02,275 --> 00:10:05,175 reporting from the best sources he can gather. 142 00:10:05,850 --> 00:10:12,000 He brought Campbell into the process of looking at his work on Star Wars and saying, 143 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:15,977 "Is this right? Am I getting it down? Is this the right emphasis? 144 00:10:16,001 --> 00:10:18,000 This is the right character. 145 00:10:18,050 --> 00:10:22,626 " Joseph Campbell said to me, "The best dude he ever had was George Lucas. 146 00:10:22,650 --> 00:10:28,000 " Like such epics as the Odyssey, Beowulf, and the legend of King Arthur. 147 00:10:28,750 --> 00:10:32,206 Star Wars drew from a shared pool of mythic archetypes. 148 00:10:32,350 --> 00:10:37,000 You have the youth who's on the adventure that you can identify with. 149 00:10:37,850 --> 00:10:41,977 You have the swashbuckler, and you have the damsel. 150 00:10:42,001 --> 00:10:45,977 She may not sort of have the reactions that are conventional. 151 00:10:46,001 --> 00:10:49,000 However, she is in distress. 152 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:53,565 And you have the wise old man who you go and you 153 00:10:53,589 --> 00:10:57,000 find him and you have the funnier characters. 154 00:10:57,250 --> 00:11:01,000 I mean, it really adheres strictly to that form. 155 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:05,000 It's a traditional ritualistic coming of age story. 156 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:07,932 And when I went into the mythological side 157 00:11:07,956 --> 00:11:10,977 of what I wanted to do, that's a key factor. 158 00:11:11,001 --> 00:11:12,977 With heroes. 159 00:11:13,001 --> 00:11:16,513 By the summer of 1973, George Lucas had created a 160 00:11:16,537 --> 00:11:20,000 treatment that he felt was ready to shop around. 161 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:23,977 Whether anyone would be interested, that was another story. 162 00:11:24,001 --> 00:11:34,000 Most successful science fiction film at that point was 2001. 163 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:39,228 And successful then was that it made about $24 million or something like that. 164 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:43,076 Most hit science fiction films would make about $16 million. 165 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:45,977 Which was the plan of the apes films and that sort of thing. 166 00:11:46,001 --> 00:11:47,977 But most science fiction films would make under $10 million. 167 00:11:48,001 --> 00:11:50,977 I mean, there's no reason to think that it would do any different. 168 00:11:51,001 --> 00:11:54,977 Star Wars was more space fantasy than science fiction. 169 00:11:55,001 --> 00:11:58,977 But its galactic setting made it a tough sell in 1973. 170 00:11:59,001 --> 00:12:01,977 When I was pitching the film, all I had was like a 14 page story treatment. 171 00:12:02,001 --> 00:12:02,977 It was very vague. 172 00:12:03,001 --> 00:12:07,068 So it's kind of a 1930s action adventure Saturday afternoon surreal 173 00:12:07,092 --> 00:12:10,977 based on the kind of flash Gordon Buck Rogers comic book future. 174 00:12:11,001 --> 00:12:12,977 And that's about all I knew about it. 175 00:12:13,001 --> 00:12:18,589 In the 70s, science fiction seemed to be all about 176 00:12:18,613 --> 00:12:23,977 apocalyptic societies and death and destruction. 177 00:12:24,001 --> 00:12:27,280 Not very inspiring. So we were fighting an 178 00:12:27,304 --> 00:12:30,977 uphill battle with the science fiction project. 179 00:12:31,001 --> 00:12:35,000 George Lucas brought Star Wars to Universal and United Artists. 180 00:12:35,650 --> 00:12:36,977 Both studios passed on the project. 181 00:12:37,001 --> 00:12:41,000 But the ambitious young filmmaker was secretly relieved. 182 00:12:41,825 --> 00:12:44,977 The last thing he wanted was to hand his dream project to the wrong people. 183 00:12:45,001 --> 00:12:47,977 He didn't care for the studio system. 184 00:12:48,001 --> 00:12:52,977 He used it because there was no other way of doing what he needed to do. 185 00:12:53,001 --> 00:12:56,977 Undaunted, Lucas presented Star Wars to Alan Lad Jr. 186 00:12:57,001 --> 00:13:01,000 The new head of Creative Affairs at 20th Century Fox. 187 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:04,181 Lad, a former producer, was able to recognize 188 00:13:04,205 --> 00:13:07,977 potential in the filmmaker if not necessarily the film. 189 00:13:08,001 --> 00:13:10,000 We had a meeting. 190 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,220 And George said, well, I've been thinking about 191 00:13:13,244 --> 00:13:16,316 this thing called Star Wars and told me about it. 192 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,333 I said, that sounds terrific. 193 00:13:18,825 --> 00:13:23,226 I mean, the technology part of the whole thing was completely over my head. 194 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:26,117 But I just believed in him, and it's genius. 195 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:29,977 I sort of recognized off of Barack Graffiti that he really was a genius. 196 00:13:30,001 --> 00:13:32,977 So I just flew with it. 197 00:13:33,001 --> 00:13:35,001 He understood what talent was. 198 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:37,026 He was respected talent. 199 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:38,977 And he was able to say, I think this guy's talented. 200 00:13:39,001 --> 00:13:41,276 I think we're going to invest in him. 201 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:42,977 So Alan Lad Jr. invested in me. 202 00:13:43,001 --> 00:13:46,000 He did not invest in the movie and paid off. 203 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,977 In 1973, Lad's investment in George, Lucas proved justified. 204 00:13:53,001 --> 00:13:55,869 American Graffiti was finally released to rave reviews 205 00:13:55,893 --> 00:13:59,076 and became the third highest-grossing picture of the year. 206 00:13:59,100 --> 00:14:03,977 It went on to earn more than $100 million worldwide. 207 00:14:04,001 --> 00:14:09,000 American Graffiti showed a very human center and a huge heart. 208 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:11,676 The George has always had, by the way. 209 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:13,977 And I think that surprised a lot of people. 210 00:14:14,001 --> 00:14:16,977 With a preliminary deal for Star Wars in place, 211 00:14:17,001 --> 00:14:21,000 Lucas began writing his screenplay in 1974. 212 00:14:21,425 --> 00:14:24,526 It proved more ambitious than he had first imagined. 213 00:14:24,550 --> 00:14:29,000 The filmmaker was able to distill his idea down to its essence. 214 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,977 An epic battle between a heroic Rebel Alliance and an evil galactic empire. 215 00:14:34,001 --> 00:14:45,000 The chief villain, Darth Vader, was there practically from the start. 216 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:48,122 But it took time to come up with Star Wars 3 main 217 00:14:48,146 --> 00:14:50,977 heroes, a plucky young princess named Leia Organa. 218 00:14:51,001 --> 00:14:55,000 The fearless Correlian smuggler, known as Han Solo. 219 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,977 And most important, an idealistic farm boy, whose original name was Luke Starkiller. 220 00:15:01,001 --> 00:15:04,977 Over the course of his adventure, Luke trains to become a Jedi Knight, 221 00:15:05,001 --> 00:15:08,977 deriving his power from a mystical energy known as the Force. 222 00:15:09,001 --> 00:15:12,977 But along the way, the script went through radical changes. 223 00:15:13,001 --> 00:15:21,000 At one point, Luke was a 60-year-old general, and Han Solo at green skin and gills. 224 00:15:21,975 --> 00:15:25,476 Even the concept of the Force had yet to be fully realized. 225 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:30,000 Instead, there was the Kyber Crystal, a sort of galactic holy grail. 226 00:15:30,850 --> 00:15:34,977 The concept of the Force was an important one in the story. 227 00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:40,477 And the difficulty is trying to create a religious 228 00:15:40,501 --> 00:15:46,000 spiritual concept that works in a very simple way, 229 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:51,000 without heavy exposition or without it seeming to pull down the story. 230 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:53,442 It got to be a very fast script, about 200 231 00:15:53,466 --> 00:15:56,326 pages, and the story had gotten away from me. 232 00:15:56,350 --> 00:15:58,573 So the only way I could cope with it was to 233 00:15:58,597 --> 00:16:01,126 say, I'll take the first third, the first act, 234 00:16:01,150 --> 00:16:02,977 and I'll make that into a movie. 235 00:16:03,001 --> 00:16:05,977 But I'd written all this of this stuff. I'd spent a year writing this story. 236 00:16:06,001 --> 00:16:10,201 And I said, well, I'm not going to just throw away two-thirds of my year, 237 00:16:10,225 --> 00:16:12,977 and say, this is all I can afford at this point. 238 00:16:13,001 --> 00:16:15,726 This is the only amount of money I'm going to get us to do this one movie. 239 00:16:15,750 --> 00:16:19,977 So I put it on the shelf, I said, by hooker by crook, I will finish this movie. 240 00:16:20,001 --> 00:16:28,977 But Star Wars wouldn't be cheap. 241 00:16:29,001 --> 00:16:32,576 To get the Fox Board of Directors to approve the necessary budget. 242 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,000 Lucas needed something dramatic. 243 00:16:35,150 --> 00:16:39,977 He hired Ralph Macquarie, a conceptual design artist who had worked for Boeing. 244 00:16:40,001 --> 00:16:42,176 I'd seen some of his paintings, and I thought he was really brilliant. 245 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,977 I'd said, look, I want you to do some paintings of these scenes that I've done, 246 00:16:45,001 --> 00:16:49,353 so that the studio can get a picture of what it is I'm talking about. 247 00:16:49,650 --> 00:16:51,777 When I turned on the script, I had about five 248 00:16:51,801 --> 00:16:54,176 or six drawings that I turned in with it also, 249 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,076 to say this is what it's going to look like. 250 00:16:56,100 --> 00:17:02,977 He had a concept for a big spectacular visual, and didn't come across in the script. 251 00:17:03,001 --> 00:17:06,820 So I tried to give it scale, juxtaposing the tiny 252 00:17:06,844 --> 00:17:10,977 little figures with the great spectacular background. 253 00:17:11,001 --> 00:17:14,376 George would say, don't worry about how we're going to do it. 254 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,977 We just want to see an impression of what the scenes would look like on the screen. 255 00:17:20,001 --> 00:17:29,977 Macquarie's artwork won over the Fox Board of Directors, 256 00:17:30,001 --> 00:17:33,201 who soon approved a budget of just over $8 million. 257 00:17:33,575 --> 00:17:36,263 With only the first part of a Star Wars saga being 258 00:17:36,287 --> 00:17:39,423 made, Lucas also needed to think about the future. 259 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:43,476 But his prior dealings with major studios had taught him to be cautious. 260 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:46,175 When I made the deal for Star Wars, originally I made 261 00:17:46,199 --> 00:17:49,551 the deal before American graffiti didn't even come out. 262 00:17:49,575 --> 00:17:51,977 Because I'll let it scene the film in American graffiti. 263 00:17:52,001 --> 00:17:52,977 He said, I'll make a deal. 264 00:17:53,001 --> 00:17:54,912 But he made a very, you know, you're going to 265 00:17:54,936 --> 00:17:57,476 make X number of dollars and this kind of thing. 266 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:00,100 And it was a very, like, one-page memo. 267 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,977 When it came up to doing the contract for the film, which was about a year later, 268 00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:10,000 I knew that what I really had to do was to protect the unwritten part, 269 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:12,417 the other two parts of the script. 270 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:17,116 All of a sudden graffiti comes out, and it's a big huge batch success. 271 00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:21,320 So his agent came back and said, "Well, hey look, 272 00:18:21,344 --> 00:18:25,000 this guy has made a huge successful movie now. 273 00:18:25,150 --> 00:18:27,970 Don't you think we should get more of their couple of 274 00:18:27,994 --> 00:18:31,076 $100,000 for writing, directing, and producing a movie?" 275 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:33,977 I said, "Yeah, I think you should get more. 276 00:18:34,001 --> 00:18:36,409 " I was very careful to say, "I don't want more money, I 277 00:18:36,433 --> 00:18:38,977 don't want more points, I don't want anything financial. 278 00:18:39,001 --> 00:18:42,977 " But I do want the right to make these sequels. 279 00:18:43,001 --> 00:18:45,038 I was working on the assumption, as every filmmaker 280 00:18:45,062 --> 00:18:47,376 works on, which is the film would be a disaster, 281 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,101 and that it won't be promoted in, it'll just die a horrible death. 282 00:18:51,125 --> 00:18:54,176 And it'll be very hard to get these next two movies made. 283 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,000 Sure, it's a big slice of the merchandising. 284 00:18:59,075 --> 00:19:05,977 Up until that time, merchandising had been relatively unknown. 285 00:19:06,001 --> 00:19:07,859 When I took over the licensing, I simply 286 00:19:07,883 --> 00:19:09,977 said, "I'm going to be able to make t-shirts, 287 00:19:10,001 --> 00:19:12,498 and I'm going to be able to make posters, and I'm going to 288 00:19:12,522 --> 00:19:14,977 be able to sell this movie even though the studio won't. 289 00:19:15,001 --> 00:19:18,569 " So I managed to get control of pretty much everything that 290 00:19:18,593 --> 00:19:21,977 was left over that the studio didn't really care about. 291 00:19:22,001 --> 00:19:25,443 George was enormously faceted, and the studio wasn't 292 00:19:25,467 --> 00:19:29,000 because they didn't know that the world was changing. 293 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,296 George didn't know the world was changing. I mean, he changed it. 294 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:40,026 With his Star Wars contract completed, George Lucas now 295 00:19:40,050 --> 00:19:44,000 needed a rebel force up to the challenge of production. 296 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,876 In the summer of 1975, he founded the Visual 297 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:51,000 Effects Company, Industrial Light and Magic. 298 00:19:51,150 --> 00:19:54,001 There was no special effects companies in those days, and 299 00:19:54,025 --> 00:19:56,977 the studio's special effects department had been disbanded. 300 00:19:57,001 --> 00:20:00,862 Part of that was because of the expense, and part of it was that the 301 00:20:00,886 --> 00:20:05,430 American taste, the culture had gone toward very realistic looking film. 302 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,308 We approached the Visual Effects as a grand experiment, and said, "Can we do this with a lot of 303 00:20:11,332 --> 00:20:17,732 people who work on architectural models and in commercials and have never made feature films before?" 304 00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:21,185 When we were kind of like a weird kind of fraternity, 305 00:20:21,209 --> 00:20:24,226 a robotic photography, that's something like that. 306 00:20:24,250 --> 00:20:28,663 I mean, this was a big movie for Fox. We were doing commercials. 307 00:20:28,687 --> 00:20:33,226 We all dreamed about doing a feature, and this was like the dream come true. 308 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:36,642 So, Star Wars came along just the perfect time for us. 309 00:20:37,150 --> 00:20:40,640 We moved into a big, empty warehouse in Van Eis, right near 310 00:20:40,664 --> 00:20:44,101 the Van Eis Airport, and basically started from scratch. 311 00:20:44,125 --> 00:20:48,292 I mean, it was empty. Early days used to pocket car inside. 312 00:20:48,316 --> 00:20:53,000 There was no cam equipment, no rooms to speak of. 313 00:20:53,250 --> 00:20:57,458 Supervising at ILM was John Dijkstra, and effects cameraman 314 00:20:57,482 --> 00:21:02,000 would work under Douglas Trumbull on films like Silent Running. 315 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:09,685 I was essentially to be responsible for doing the visual effects for the film. We took the concept of motion control, which is essentially 316 00:21:09,709 --> 00:21:17,076 an old concept of being able to duplicate camera motion through more than one pass so that you can generate multiple elements of film. 317 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:20,996 And we made it production savvy by tying it into a computer, which 318 00:21:21,020 --> 00:21:24,977 was at that point, custom built microprocessors. There were no PCs. 319 00:21:25,001 --> 00:21:28,585 He didn't go down by in a PC. We built them from scratch. 320 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,065 At the same time, the camera system was being built. 321 00:21:33,089 --> 00:21:36,161 Another team began constructing model spaceships. 322 00:21:36,775 --> 00:21:42,524 I was one of the early hires. They had a small art department, and there 323 00:21:42,548 --> 00:21:47,977 were some concept models made out of cardboard and model kit pieces. 324 00:21:48,001 --> 00:21:51,119 There were some storyboards and some concept 325 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:54,000 illustrations that Joe Johnson had done. 326 00:21:54,250 --> 00:21:58,000 There were some paintings that Ralph Macquarie had done. 327 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,381 Everything came either from my sketches or Ralph's paintings 328 00:22:04,405 --> 00:22:09,000 and drawings, and any input that George might have. 329 00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:13,000 It wasn't a lot of outside influences on Star Wars. 330 00:22:26,325 --> 00:22:29,217 George wanted it to look like you could actually see the 331 00:22:29,241 --> 00:22:31,977 rivets so you could see the logic of how it was made. 332 00:22:32,001 --> 00:22:36,901 I was originally hired to work on the Death Star, the 40-foot by, 333 00:22:36,925 --> 00:22:42,000 what was it, 40 by 80 feet or 40 by 60 feet or something like that. 334 00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:45,977 Nobody wanted to do the job because you had to spend a lot of time on your knees. 335 00:22:46,001 --> 00:22:50,126 Everybody sort of could cross train and work in different techniques. 336 00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:51,977 That was different than the Hollywood system. 337 00:22:52,001 --> 00:22:55,000 That had very strict sort of union rules. 338 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,214 But there was no way that this work could be done that way or no 339 00:22:58,238 --> 00:23:01,776 way that the Hollywood Indians could understand what we were doing. 340 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,909 With pre-production gaining momentum, Lucas next 341 00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:07,977 began the process of casting his galactic opus. 342 00:23:08,001 --> 00:23:11,417 He shared the audition stage with his friend Brian DiPoma, 343 00:23:11,441 --> 00:23:15,217 who was seeking actors for the Stephen King shocker, Carrie. 344 00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:18,472 It just happened that we were both making these movies of 345 00:23:18,496 --> 00:23:20,977 casting it at the same time as we decided to combine our efforts. 346 00:23:21,001 --> 00:23:24,326 I've made movies with very young people that have no track record. 347 00:23:24,350 --> 00:23:27,764 So I have to kind of go through and discover them, pick them, 348 00:23:27,788 --> 00:23:31,001 and then test them and go through them and have readings. 349 00:23:31,025 --> 00:23:35,977 So it takes a long time. I spent probably six or seven months casting Star Wars. 350 00:23:36,001 --> 00:23:40,289 And that's a long process to set a little room and interview people. 351 00:23:40,525 --> 00:23:42,976 And I interviewed thousands of people. 352 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 In casting the male leads, Luke Starkiller and Han Solo. 353 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:52,076 Lucas looked for individual screen presence as well as chemistry between performers. 354 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:57,000 Oh, it checks out again. There's no mistake. 355 00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:58,977 You can't find organic major. 356 00:23:59,001 --> 00:24:01,134 I found it. It's just not there. 357 00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:03,977 Oh, I found it. It's just not there. 358 00:24:04,001 --> 00:24:08,000 What's left of it is contaminated. That's it there. 359 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,314 Look at those radiation readouts. 360 00:24:10,338 --> 00:24:13,026 It's impossible. I've never seen anything like it. 361 00:24:13,050 --> 00:24:14,426 The Empire must have gotten here first. 362 00:24:14,450 --> 00:24:17,250 The planet has been completely blown away. 363 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,303 For the pivotal role of Luke, Lucas needed an actor 364 00:24:20,327 --> 00:24:22,977 who could project both intelligence and integrity. 365 00:24:23,001 --> 00:24:25,362 Well, she's part of the royal family. They don't get 366 00:24:25,386 --> 00:24:28,126 anything out of her. She knows the power of mind control. 367 00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:30,885 She's part of the royal family. They won't get any 368 00:24:30,909 --> 00:24:34,429 information from her. She knows the art of mind control. 369 00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:40,047 24-year-old Mark Hamill was a familiar face on television. 370 00:24:40,071 --> 00:24:44,001 A newcomer to films, his wholesome, easygoing manner fit the park perfectly. 371 00:24:44,025 --> 00:24:49,977 I can remember a line from the screen test, which I don't think ever will leave me. 372 00:24:50,001 --> 00:24:54,076 Luke says, but we can't turn back. Fear is their greatest offense. 373 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:57,504 I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Apple Eye or 374 00:24:57,528 --> 00:25:02,226 Solest, and what there is is most likely directed towards a large scale assault. 375 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:13,323 Well, how many more systems have to get blown away before you have no place 376 00:25:13,347 --> 00:25:24,000 to hide and are forced to fight? Don't you realize what's going on? Kid. 377 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,076 You take the glory and the good intentions. I'll take the reward. 378 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:32,977 The role of Han Solo needed someone older with a more cynical edge. 379 00:25:33,001 --> 00:25:36,722 What's that little droid carrying? It's so blasted important. 380 00:25:36,746 --> 00:25:40,074 What's the little droid carrying that's so important? 381 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,176 Harrison Ford had worked with Lucas on American Graffiti, but because the 382 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,000 director initially only wanted new faces, he was not allowed to audition. 383 00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:53,767 Where's that guy to sit up to get in there? 384 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,626 Instead, he was brought in to feed lines to the other actors. 385 00:25:57,650 --> 00:26:02,000 I was given sides and asked if I would help read the other actors. 386 00:26:02,050 --> 00:26:04,830 It became my task to explain to the other 387 00:26:04,854 --> 00:26:07,977 actors who were coming along just what it was. 388 00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:12,977 But these sides were meant to be about. 389 00:26:13,001 --> 00:26:14,998 They're going to follow us, they'll destroy your hidden bases. 390 00:26:15,022 --> 00:26:16,977 They'll destroy the whole system. 391 00:26:17,001 --> 00:26:21,000 Right, I know the foe, and they'll bring the Death Star, too. 392 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,425 This may have been reluctant to use Ford at first, but the actor won 393 00:26:25,449 --> 00:26:28,977 him over by giving Han a mix of mercenary swagger and world weariness. 394 00:26:29,001 --> 00:26:34,000 Well, what was so clear was what the idea was of the character relationships. 395 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,457 Mark was the Calo youth, and I was the smart ass, 396 00:26:37,481 --> 00:26:40,977 and we each had a clear section of turf to explore. 397 00:26:41,001 --> 00:26:45,000 The planet's totally blown away. 398 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:47,335 It would have taken a thousand ships with 399 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,259 more firepower and I've ever seen to do that. 400 00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:52,455 If the Empire had a new weapon that could do 401 00:26:52,479 --> 00:26:55,615 this, I'd know about it. I'd have heard something. 402 00:26:55,950 --> 00:26:59,276 Well, you know about it now. The enemy's on the move, we have much time. 403 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:02,000 Well, I brought you here, now what? 404 00:27:02,550 --> 00:27:04,977 We've got to find the rebels, what we're carrying belongs to them. 405 00:27:05,001 --> 00:27:08,000 Their bases are very well-hidden, son. 406 00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:11,977 The whole all the power of the Empire can't find them. You know where they are? 407 00:27:12,001 --> 00:27:17,000 Well, I'm not going to take you on our impossible chase across the galaxy. 408 00:27:18,150 --> 00:27:21,977 Virtually every young actress in Hollywood tried out for the part of Princess Leia. 409 00:27:22,001 --> 00:27:26,068 Although the character was the same age as Luke, as a leader of the 410 00:27:26,092 --> 00:27:29,977 rebellion, Leia needed to project a confidence beyond her years. 411 00:27:30,001 --> 00:27:33,405 The plans and specifications to a battle station 412 00:27:33,429 --> 00:27:37,000 with enough firepower to destroy an entire system. 413 00:27:37,650 --> 00:27:40,230 Our only hope in destroying it is to find its weakness, 414 00:27:40,254 --> 00:27:43,902 which we will determine from the data I stored in our two. 415 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,728 Now, our only hope in destroying it is to find its 416 00:27:46,752 --> 00:27:50,464 weakness, which we'll do from the data I stored in our two. 417 00:27:51,050 --> 00:27:55,553 Okay? Now, we captured the plans in a raid on the Imperial Shipyards, but we fell under 418 00:27:55,577 --> 00:28:00,076 attack before I could get the data to safety so I hit it in our two and send them on. 419 00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:03,306 When our two has been safely delivered to my 420 00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:07,000 forces, you get your award. You have my guarantee. 421 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:12,196 What's the little droid carrying that's so blasted and important? 422 00:28:12,350 --> 00:28:15,093 The plans and specifications to a battle station 423 00:28:15,117 --> 00:28:17,977 with enough firepower to destroy an entire system. 424 00:28:18,001 --> 00:28:24,000 One actress in particular seemed tailor-made to play a princess. 425 00:28:24,450 --> 00:28:27,673 As the daughter of actress Debbie Reynolds and singer Eddie 426 00:28:27,697 --> 00:28:30,977 Fisher, Carrie Fisher, was the product of Hollywood royalty. 427 00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:35,481 She had no trouble conveying the self-assurance needed for Leia Organa. 428 00:28:36,050 --> 00:28:39,031 I met with Brian DiPamla and George, and Brian did 429 00:28:39,055 --> 00:28:42,127 all the talking, because George didn't talk then. 430 00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:46,594 There were incredible actresses that were my age that were being 431 00:28:46,618 --> 00:28:50,076 considered for this role, so I didn't think I would get it. 432 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:54,000 But our only hope is to destroy it before it destroys us. 433 00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:58,622 Hiding is useless now. With the Death Star, they'll 434 00:28:58,646 --> 00:29:03,000 continue to go on destroying systems until they found us. 435 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:08,701 I'll turn it over to process the information and use it while there's still time. 436 00:29:08,725 --> 00:29:16,000 I got it with the proviso that I went to a fat farm, and that I lose ten pounds. 437 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:20,183 I think they were hoping it was going to come out five year and five 438 00:29:20,207 --> 00:29:24,076 year, and my character was someone who was feisty and all of that. 439 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,585 But I felt myself to be a bit of that too, so it would have 440 00:29:27,609 --> 00:29:31,193 been unlikely that I would be cast as a shrinking violet. 441 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 He cast us to type in a way. 442 00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:39,550 Lucas' decision to hire unknowns went against the advice of his friend 443 00:29:39,574 --> 00:29:43,977 Francis Ford Coppola, who had cast the godfather with stage and screen stars. 444 00:29:44,001 --> 00:29:49,000 20th century Fox was also concerned about Lucas' choice of actors. 445 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:54,000 He came and said these are the three unknown people that I want to go with. 446 00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:01,430 Every time we gone down this far on the road, he knows what he's doing. I'd be lying 447 00:30:01,454 --> 00:30:07,000 if I said, "Oh, my god, Harrison's perfect, it carries perfect, and Mark is fantastic. 448 00:30:07,025 --> 00:30:10,000 " Now, I was very nervous about the cast. 449 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:14,207 For the important role of Aja Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi, 450 00:30:14,231 --> 00:30:17,977 Lucas recognized that he needed an established star. 451 00:30:18,001 --> 00:30:24,000 Sir Alec Guinness was a veteran of over 40 films, and at one at Oscar in 1958, 452 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,251 for his performance in the bridge on the River Choir. 453 00:30:28,275 --> 00:30:32,000 The knighted actor had the pedigree and the persona. 454 00:30:32,350 --> 00:30:37,754 The Alec Guinness role required a certain stability in gravitas as a character, 455 00:30:37,778 --> 00:30:42,977 which meant we needed a very, very strong character actor to play that part. 456 00:30:43,001 --> 00:30:46,911 Signing Guinness was a major coup, but more casting would be 457 00:30:46,935 --> 00:30:51,000 done in London, where Star Wars would be principally produced. 458 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,413 Unlike Lucas' home base of Northern California, London provided access 459 00:30:56,437 --> 00:31:01,000 to the kind of massive sound stages needed for Star Wars ambitious sets. 460 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,977 The location also gave Lucas access to Britain's top production talents. 461 00:31:06,001 --> 00:31:16,000 The character of Darth Vader demanded someone of commanding physical stature. 462 00:31:17,025 --> 00:31:22,626 To fill Vader's boots, Lucas cast champion bodybuilder, David Prouse, whose resume 463 00:31:22,650 --> 00:31:28,000 included roles like Frankenstein's creature in Hammer's popular horror movies. 464 00:31:28,650 --> 00:31:32,337 As Vader's evil accomplice, Governor Tarkin, another 465 00:31:32,361 --> 00:31:35,977 hammer alumnus was cast, 63-year-old Peter Cushing. 466 00:31:36,001 --> 00:31:40,570 Best known as the methodical professor Van Helsing in Dracula, Cushing was 467 00:31:40,594 --> 00:31:45,074 the perfect choice to portray the Death Star's icy chief administrator. 468 00:31:46,050 --> 00:31:50,645 For the part of Chewbacca, Han Solo's towering, wookie co-pilot, 469 00:31:50,669 --> 00:31:54,977 Lucas and Kurtz had to look outside normal casting channels. 470 00:31:55,001 --> 00:31:58,885 But at seven feet three inches tall, it was no stretch for Peter 471 00:31:58,909 --> 00:32:02,977 Mayhew, who had been working as an orderly at a Yorkshire hospital. 472 00:32:03,001 --> 00:32:09,000 I sat down on one of his hovers waiting for George. 473 00:32:10,750 --> 00:32:17,000 Dor opened, and George walked in with Gary behind him. 474 00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:20,977 So naturally, what did I do? I've raised an English. 475 00:32:21,001 --> 00:32:25,000 As soon as someone comes in through the door, I stand up. 476 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:33,000 George goes, hmm, virtually turned to Gary and said, "I think we found him. 477 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,977 " Finding the right performers to portray robots was even more of a challenge. 478 00:32:39,001 --> 00:32:42,412 Production designers had constructed an assortment of 479 00:32:42,436 --> 00:32:46,000 robots and Androids to populate the Star Wars universe. 480 00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:50,977 But it would take living, breathing actors to give personality to the two main droids. 481 00:32:51,001 --> 00:32:53,977 See 3PO and R2-D2. 482 00:32:54,001 --> 00:32:57,275 To operate R2, Lucas needed a performer's 483 00:32:57,299 --> 00:33:01,000 small and stature, but with a big imagination. 484 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,977 To enter 3 foot 5 inch stage comedian Kenny Baker. 485 00:33:05,001 --> 00:33:08,977 They couldn't find anyone that would fit inside his robot to make it move. 486 00:33:09,001 --> 00:33:12,977 And they couldn't use kids because it was quite a heavy machine, you know. 487 00:33:13,001 --> 00:33:14,977 It was worried about 80 pounds. 488 00:33:15,001 --> 00:33:21,000 One of my other experiences of inside costumes and inside cats and dogs. 489 00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:23,176 And goodness knows what else you know. 490 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,376 So I'm going to go into the robots. 491 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,267 You know, you said, "Look happy, so I'll go. 492 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,226 " So I know that you can see my expressions obviously. 493 00:33:33,250 --> 00:33:37,977 But it just, you have to do something to get the feel of a thing. 494 00:33:38,001 --> 00:33:43,977 Actor Anthony Daniels not only had the slender 495 00:33:44,001 --> 00:33:45,977 build needed for C3PO, but training as a mom artist. 496 00:33:46,001 --> 00:33:49,000 He'd been seeing people every five minutes. 497 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,977 I was there for a while and thinking, "Well, nearly time to go, I guess. 498 00:33:52,001 --> 00:33:56,000 " And then, kind of over Georgia's shoulder, I saw painting. 499 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,977 And the most extraordinary thing happened. 500 00:33:59,001 --> 00:34:02,521 It just struck me because I kind of looked at this face. 501 00:34:02,725 --> 00:34:05,001 And the face looked back at me and we had this extraordinary eye contact. 502 00:34:05,025 --> 00:34:07,176 You know, he's looking right out of the picture. 503 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,977 And he seemed to be saying, "Come, come, be with me. 504 00:34:11,001 --> 00:34:14,977 " And the vulnerability in his face made me want to help him. 505 00:34:15,001 --> 00:34:16,977 Isn't that weird? 506 00:34:17,001 --> 00:34:18,977 He just looks utterly vulnerable. 507 00:34:19,001 --> 00:34:23,161 That painting completely changed my attitude to the whole project. 508 00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:27,226 Years later, I was able to go to Ralph Macquarie 509 00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:30,050 and say, "You will. This is all your fault. 510 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,245 " In March 1976, with casting completed, George 511 00:34:35,269 --> 00:34:40,000 Lucas and Company arrived in North Africa. 512 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,746 It was a strange caravan of British and American 513 00:34:43,770 --> 00:34:50,000 filmmakers working in a French-speaking nation on a script few people believed in. 514 00:34:51,050 --> 00:34:54,386 The overriding thing for me, really, at that 515 00:34:54,410 --> 00:34:57,977 stage was the amount of work that we had to do. 516 00:34:58,001 --> 00:35:01,000 The amount of stuff there was to achieve. 517 00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:03,977 And we had braved out about getting it done in time. 518 00:35:04,001 --> 00:35:12,000 But the trial by fire had yet to begin. 519 00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,000 It was now up to Lucas to make his movie. 520 00:35:15,450 --> 00:35:18,357 Just one day into filming, De Sohero was pelted 521 00:35:18,381 --> 00:35:21,114 with its first major rainfall in 50 years. 522 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,977 We were going out there to shoot on the salt flat. 523 00:35:25,001 --> 00:35:26,930 I came out in the morning and the rain was 524 00:35:26,954 --> 00:35:29,601 going horizontally down the street this way. 525 00:35:29,625 --> 00:35:31,305 I thought, "Oh, my God. 526 00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:34,977 " I just called the rest day and the crew told them all to go back to bed 527 00:35:35,001 --> 00:35:37,977 because there was no way people could shoot on that. 528 00:35:38,001 --> 00:35:42,000 It was the first two weeks of shooting. 529 00:35:42,225 --> 00:35:44,026 We'd run into a lot of weather problems. 530 00:35:44,050 --> 00:35:47,226 The sets had blown down. I didn't get everything shot. 531 00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:48,977 It was a disaster. 532 00:35:49,001 --> 00:35:51,590 At that point, I was pretty depressed, saying, 533 00:35:51,614 --> 00:35:54,176 "Boy, I've got myself in way over my head. 534 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,977 I don't know what I'm going to do. 535 00:35:56,001 --> 00:35:58,977 " You'll just do what you'll feel is right of course. 536 00:35:59,001 --> 00:36:04,000 With temperatures topping 100 degrees by mid-morning, 537 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,977 Tunisia was anything but fun in the sun. 538 00:36:07,001 --> 00:36:13,000 Baking for hours in heavy costume, even the film stunt coordinator Peter Diamond 539 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,977 found the condition physically exhausting. 540 00:36:16,001 --> 00:36:20,000 I was the only stunt person on the picture in Tunisia. 541 00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:23,000 I became a Tuscan radar or a sand person. 542 00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:28,000 I'm not a son of a merchant. I don't like the sun. I just burned. 543 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,426 So I just died with a heat of it. I couldn't stand it anymore if it was so hot. 544 00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:37,546 But there were so many problems. It just was not a good location. 545 00:36:37,850 --> 00:36:41,050 We seem to be made to suffer. It's our lot in life. 546 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:46,977 C-3PO was finally put together for the very 547 00:36:47,001 --> 00:36:50,000 first time the day before we started shooting. 548 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,026 R2D2 didn't really function that well. 549 00:36:53,050 --> 00:36:55,977 He could run along in the three-legged position, 550 00:36:56,001 --> 00:36:59,000 but he couldn't turn his head at the same time. 551 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000 Yeah, there was wires everywhere. 552 00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:04,977 And the head was on a track of ball bearings. 553 00:37:05,001 --> 00:37:07,276 I used to grab whatever I could grab all of them. 554 00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:11,140 Let's turn it physically that way and that way, not very far. 555 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,977 Because I went too far that the wires would go around my neck 556 00:37:15,001 --> 00:37:18,073 and then they'd say, "Cut, right, pray for lunch. 557 00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:19,977 " And anybody just walked away and leave me. 558 00:37:20,001 --> 00:37:21,977 And then they'd remember me, you know. 559 00:37:22,001 --> 00:37:26,000 I'm pretty eventually. But that never happened many times. 560 00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,977 It was bad enough, as putting on the costume for the first time. 561 00:37:29,001 --> 00:37:31,628 And within two paces, the left leg had 562 00:37:31,652 --> 00:37:35,000 shattered down onto the plastic of the left foot 563 00:37:35,075 --> 00:37:39,671 and was gently but forcibly and persistently 564 00:37:39,695 --> 00:37:44,000 knifing it into the soft part of my foot. 565 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,000 So we took it off and I limped the set with one foot. 566 00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:52,000 And it was then I began to panic about the days to come. 567 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:59,000 As the actors and crew began to grumble about the adverse conditions, 568 00:37:59,150 --> 00:38:04,000 it was Sir Alec Guinness who served as a role model of professionalism. 569 00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:07,126 It was for me, fascinating to watch Alec Guinness. 570 00:38:07,150 --> 00:38:11,977 He was always prepared, always professional, always very kind to the other actors. 571 00:38:12,001 --> 00:38:16,000 He had a very clear head about how to serve the story. 572 00:38:16,450 --> 00:38:19,977 He was the person who sort of brought it some legitimacy. 573 00:38:20,001 --> 00:38:22,601 And I asked him why he wanted to do it. 574 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,977 He loved the idea of playing a mentor or a wizard in a morality play. 575 00:38:27,001 --> 00:38:30,000 Where a good needle so clearly defined. 576 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:32,977 Excellent! 577 00:38:33,001 --> 00:38:38,000 Three or four seasons? 578 00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:40,977 They're up for sale if you want them. 579 00:38:41,001 --> 00:38:44,977 You don't need to see his identification. 580 00:38:45,001 --> 00:38:46,977 I don't need to say that. 581 00:38:47,001 --> 00:38:49,977 These aren't the droids you're looking for. 582 00:38:50,001 --> 00:38:51,977 These aren't the droids we're looking for. 583 00:38:52,001 --> 00:38:53,977 You can go about his business. 584 00:38:54,001 --> 00:38:55,977 You can go about your business. 585 00:38:56,001 --> 00:38:57,977 Overlaw. 586 00:38:58,001 --> 00:39:08,000 Lucas, meanwhile, was up to his neck in malfunctioning props, electronic breakdowns, 587 00:39:08,350 --> 00:39:11,000 and other production woes. 588 00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:15,000 Star Wars was already struggling to stay on schedule. 589 00:39:15,575 --> 00:39:18,439 The only silver lining was that after Tunisia the 590 00:39:18,463 --> 00:39:21,977 production would be moving to a more controlled environment. 591 00:39:22,001 --> 00:39:25,977 Elsery studios outside London. 592 00:39:26,001 --> 00:39:29,426 The stages at Elsery were among the largest in the world. 593 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:34,376 And the sets now finished after months of construction were just as impressive. 594 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,000 And for the first time, the entire Star Wars cast was together. 595 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:42,401 That was almost like a whole separate movie. 596 00:39:42,425 --> 00:39:47,000 He was like getting a whole fresh start, and it was all new, really. 597 00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:49,576 We were all very different ages. 598 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:55,000 I was 19, Harrison was 33, and he was sort of the big man on campus. 599 00:39:55,050 --> 00:40:00,000 And meeting him, you sort of felt, "Well, he'll be a movie star. 600 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,000 " Costumes, makeup, robots, and aliens were all ready to go. 601 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:12,000 I put that mask on, and a chewy transformed me. 602 00:40:12,650 --> 00:40:15,151 I transformed the attitude was different. 603 00:40:15,175 --> 00:40:19,000 The walk was different, chewy turned on. 604 00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:21,030 Do the scenes, come back. 605 00:40:21,350 --> 00:40:24,977 Take the mask off, Peter was back. 606 00:40:25,001 --> 00:40:27,000 Magic? 607 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:29,070 That old man's mad. 608 00:40:29,825 --> 00:40:31,076 You said it, chewy. 609 00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:32,977 Boy, where'd you dig up that old fossil? 610 00:40:33,001 --> 00:40:34,977 And this is a great man. 611 00:40:35,001 --> 00:40:36,977 Yeah, greater than getting us into trouble. 612 00:40:37,001 --> 00:40:39,977 I didn't hear you give any ideas. 613 00:40:40,001 --> 00:40:49,977 But working at Elestry Studios didn't mean the production 614 00:40:50,001 --> 00:40:53,201 was free from problems, or strict British Union regulations. 615 00:40:53,225 --> 00:40:59,000 At 530, we had to spot, unless we were in the middle of a shot. 616 00:40:59,150 --> 00:41:06,000 I could ask the crew for an extra 15 minutes, but they always voted me down. 617 00:41:06,275 --> 00:41:07,523 I'm not putting down the British crew, but 618 00:41:07,547 --> 00:41:08,977 there was kind of attitude like, "What is this?" 619 00:41:09,001 --> 00:41:15,000 It didn't help that most of the crew thought Star Wars was just a children's film. 620 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:19,580 At times, even the actors were hard pressed to take the work seriously. 621 00:41:19,725 --> 00:41:21,977 Didn't think it would be any good, whereas I didn't. 622 00:41:22,001 --> 00:41:24,126 I don't want to, "This is its strange. 623 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:25,977 " And I can remember this rising man. 624 00:41:26,001 --> 00:41:27,977 He said, "What is all this about?" 625 00:41:28,001 --> 00:41:31,226 He said, "I'll call you a little rubbish, you know?" 626 00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:34,026 And we all thought it at the same end of the time. 627 00:41:34,050 --> 00:41:35,977 And it's strange. 628 00:41:36,001 --> 00:41:41,426 It was a princess with their hair and weird buttons on 629 00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:46,977 the side, and they giant in a monkey suit or something. 630 00:41:47,001 --> 00:41:49,226 I mean, it was weird. It was very, very weird. 631 00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:52,076 No more attention. I'm not getting involved. 632 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,977 Don't you call me a minus the most. I do have no idea. 633 00:41:55,001 --> 00:41:56,977 Not a grease. 634 00:41:57,001 --> 00:41:59,977 Fine! I'm not going to regret this. 635 00:42:00,001 --> 00:42:02,176 It was tough dialogue, does they? 636 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,977 So I think I got Governor Tarkin, I thought I recognized your foul stench, 637 00:42:07,001 --> 00:42:12,000 which, you know, I don't know about you, but I'm always talking like that. 638 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:17,000 Governor Tarkin, I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash. 639 00:42:17,425 --> 00:42:19,977 I recognized your foul stench when I was both on board. 640 00:42:20,001 --> 00:42:21,977 Charming to the last. 641 00:42:22,001 --> 00:42:26,000 We used to say you can type this stuff, but you can't say it. 642 00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:35,000 George didn't really like being in London, I suppose, is the best way to say it. 643 00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:36,977 He doesn't like being away from home. 644 00:42:37,001 --> 00:42:39,226 He's not the most gregarious person in the world. 645 00:42:39,250 --> 00:42:41,977 He had some clashes with the cameraman. 646 00:42:42,001 --> 00:42:46,977 Guiltayler was a very old-school cameraman, very crotchety. 647 00:42:47,001 --> 00:42:50,046 George, coming out of low-budget filmmaking, 648 00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:53,000 was used to doing a lot of things himself. 649 00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:56,977 So George would say things like, "Well, put a light here. 650 00:42:57,001 --> 00:42:59,977 " And Gil took a fence at that kind of thing. 651 00:43:00,001 --> 00:43:03,000 He says, "That's not your job, son. 652 00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:06,455 " You tell me what you want to see, and I'll do it the 653 00:43:06,479 --> 00:43:09,977 way I think is the best to create what you want to see. 654 00:43:10,001 --> 00:43:11,977 It was a clash of style of working. 655 00:43:12,001 --> 00:43:14,000 3, 2, 7, take four. 656 00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:18,000 We're coming up on all around. 657 00:43:18,025 --> 00:43:21,977 Yeah, I did feel something. I can almost see the remote. 658 00:43:22,001 --> 00:43:23,001 That's good. 659 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,000 Keep checking your first step into a larger world. 660 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:34,977 Lucas also became frustrated that the costumes, sets, and other production elements 661 00:43:35,001 --> 00:43:37,977 weren't living up to his vision for Star Wars. 662 00:43:38,001 --> 00:43:40,418 The compromises required due to the film's 663 00:43:40,442 --> 00:43:43,309 budget plagued him on an almost daily basis. 664 00:43:43,975 --> 00:43:46,526 What was disappointing would be the cantina sequence. 665 00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:49,720 It was really imaginatively described, and then you 666 00:43:49,744 --> 00:43:53,008 go in there, and it looks like the nutcracker suite. 667 00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:59,000 You know, there's a frog guy and a mouse girl, and a giant cricket at the bar. 668 00:43:59,250 --> 00:44:02,000 It was just really disappointing. 669 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,977 But, you know, George says, "Don't worry, we're going to fix all of this. 670 00:44:06,001 --> 00:44:13,000 " We didn't see anything of what was ended up on the screen. 671 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,101 So, you know, when they blew my planet up, I was looking at 672 00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:19,201 a guy going like this against a board with a circle on it. 673 00:44:19,225 --> 00:44:21,000 I mean, it was funny. 674 00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:22,977 Proceed with the operation, you may five and ready. 675 00:44:23,001 --> 00:44:24,001 What? 676 00:44:24,475 --> 00:44:26,977 Dantuan is too remote to make an effective demonstration. 677 00:44:27,001 --> 00:44:28,977 We will deal with your rebel friends soon enough. 678 00:44:29,001 --> 00:44:30,001 No. 679 00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:34,000 Bye. 680 00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:38,000 And you called yourself humans. 681 00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:40,977 George never talked. 682 00:44:41,001 --> 00:44:43,448 It was sort of, we felt he wanted to hit our 683 00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:46,372 marks and magically accommodate our dialogue. 684 00:44:46,525 --> 00:44:48,076 And he lost his voice at one point. 685 00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:50,300 And we didn't know that for days. 686 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,977 And we wanted to get him a little board where it said, "Faster and more intense. 687 00:44:55,001 --> 00:44:56,977 " That was his main direction. 688 00:44:57,001 --> 00:45:00,000 He just wanted us to speed through it. 689 00:45:00,450 --> 00:45:02,754 George is notorious for saying, after taking 690 00:45:02,778 --> 00:45:05,445 a dirt again, "Faster and more intensity. 691 00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:08,977 " He certainly said to me, "It was terrific, Tony can you do it again faster. 692 00:45:09,001 --> 00:45:09,977 " But that's it. 693 00:45:10,001 --> 00:45:10,977 I didn't get more intensity. 694 00:45:11,001 --> 00:45:14,176 I didn't think three people with more intensity would be bearable to you. 695 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:14,977 Hmm. 696 00:45:15,001 --> 00:45:17,977 I said all systems have been a dirtier presence. 697 00:45:18,001 --> 00:45:21,009 A main entry seems to be the only way in or out. 698 00:45:21,250 --> 00:45:23,801 We all had to fill in a lot of the blanks. 699 00:45:23,825 --> 00:45:25,977 It was more a matter of if we did something he didn't like. 700 00:45:26,001 --> 00:45:31,000 He'd tell us rather than telling us what to do. 701 00:45:31,350 --> 00:45:32,977 I think George likes people. 702 00:45:33,001 --> 00:45:36,000 I think George is a warm-hearted person. 703 00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:42,000 But he is all impatient with the process of acting, of finding something. 704 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:43,977 And he thinks it's there. 705 00:45:44,001 --> 00:45:44,977 It's right there. 706 00:45:45,001 --> 00:45:45,977 I wrote it there. 707 00:45:46,001 --> 00:45:49,000 You know, just do that. 708 00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:53,000 Sometimes you can't just do that and make it work. 709 00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:56,126 He's really focused on what he's trying to do and get everything right. 710 00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:59,101 It's just a smoke ride and the squibs go off right. 711 00:45:59,125 --> 00:46:03,000 And we're just tossing him mercilessly. 712 00:46:04,050 --> 00:46:06,977 Carrie Mark have wicked sense of humor. 713 00:46:07,001 --> 00:46:09,000 Carrie was very young. 714 00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:11,000 Mark was very young. 715 00:46:11,050 --> 00:46:13,250 So they were the junior division. 716 00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:15,977 And they were always lurking about onset. 717 00:46:16,001 --> 00:46:18,977 So it kept us in stitches. 718 00:46:19,001 --> 00:46:22,000 I got one outfit for the first movie. 719 00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:25,977 And as George taught me, there is no underwear in space. 720 00:46:26,001 --> 00:46:30,000 Instead of that, there is a gaffer tape. 721 00:46:30,850 --> 00:46:33,000 So I was taped down. 722 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,977 And I used to say we should just make up a contest 723 00:46:37,001 --> 00:46:40,000 on the call sheet who's going to rip it off. 724 00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:41,977 But we didn't do that. 725 00:46:42,001 --> 00:46:46,000 We were all goofing around and trying to make George crack. 726 00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:49,326 Because he really looked like he was ready to burst into tears. 727 00:46:49,350 --> 00:46:51,283 And he tried to cheer him up. 728 00:46:57,250 --> 00:47:03,977 The mic was in picture. 729 00:47:04,001 --> 00:47:11,000 The mic was in picture. 730 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,977 The mic was in picture. 731 00:47:16,001 --> 00:47:21,000 That to him was really inappropriate. 732 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,076 Who am I at the time because I'm sure he's in 733 00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,076 the zone and he's seeing what he wants to do. 734 00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:30,000 And we're just like actors trying to stave off boredom because, you know, 735 00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:32,977 we've been in the trash compactor all morning. 736 00:47:33,001 --> 00:47:34,126 Ready? I'm not sure. 737 00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:36,977 What happened? I don't know. 738 00:47:37,001 --> 00:47:40,977 It just disappeared. 739 00:47:41,001 --> 00:47:44,000 I got a really bad feeling about this. 740 00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:47,977 But it is amazing what you can do when you have a vision, when you have an ambition. 741 00:47:48,001 --> 00:47:52,977 And when you can bend other people's will to your desire. 742 00:47:53,001 --> 00:47:57,243 And the thing that kept it focused towards the ambitions 743 00:47:57,267 --> 00:48:00,977 was George's vision and his passion for the idea. 744 00:48:01,001 --> 00:48:03,887 Perhaps the most memorable stunt in Star Wars was 745 00:48:03,911 --> 00:48:06,977 actually performed by Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher. 746 00:48:07,001 --> 00:48:13,000 The nick of time escape of Luke and Leia across a yawning chasm in the Death Star. 747 00:48:13,125 --> 00:48:16,226 Mark Hamill ought to do as much as he could himself. 748 00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:19,977 At a time when I had to keep him back because he was too enthusiastic, actually. 749 00:48:20,001 --> 00:48:21,076 He could have got hurt. 750 00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,977 Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker had to three of his boy. 751 00:48:24,001 --> 00:48:25,126 We couldn't have forced stunt doubles. 752 00:48:25,150 --> 00:48:27,977 So I said to George, well I can teach them to do this and be quite safe. 753 00:48:28,001 --> 00:48:31,977 My buddy and I, we put the harnesses on, we put the wires on. 754 00:48:32,001 --> 00:48:34,047 Everyone down below, because remember we are 755 00:48:34,071 --> 00:48:35,977 about 20 meters up, looking down on them. 756 00:48:36,001 --> 00:48:36,977 Right? 757 00:48:37,001 --> 00:48:40,977 And as we was flying across, there was a ton of a tear. 758 00:48:41,001 --> 00:48:44,977 And my buddy said to me, Peter, your harness is snapped at Mark. 759 00:48:45,001 --> 00:48:47,226 He said, "I'm not going, and that's too dangerous. 760 00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:49,451 " And this is where I discovered you had to be a good liar. 761 00:48:49,475 --> 00:48:50,977 And I said, "No, there's nothing wrong with the harness. 762 00:48:51,001 --> 00:48:53,268 " I split my trousers and I landed. 763 00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:55,226 He said, "Oh, I thought it was the harness. 764 00:48:55,250 --> 00:48:57,977 " I said, "Mark, I wouldn't let you go when this, if it was dangerous. 765 00:48:58,001 --> 00:49:07,977 " You know, they did it as you know, one take, and that's how we got it. 766 00:49:08,001 --> 00:49:17,000 That was really early on in the shoot. 767 00:49:17,275 --> 00:49:21,977 When I was still worried about my weight, and I thought that we were going to miss, 768 00:49:22,001 --> 00:49:27,000 and I hit the wall and they will say, "That's still too tubby. 769 00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:29,017 Let's bring in Jodie Foster. 770 00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:34,977 " Another of Peter Diamond's tasks was choreographing the 771 00:49:35,001 --> 00:49:39,161 dramatic lightsaber battle between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi. 772 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,560 The con-win does. 773 00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:43,150 My blade should find his mark. 774 00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:46,977 He always sees to exist, and I warn you, if you strike me down, 775 00:49:47,001 --> 00:49:50,977 I should become more powerful, and you can possibly imagine. 776 00:49:51,001 --> 00:49:56,000 George, he wanted a broad sword tiger fight with a touch of Japanese behind it, 777 00:49:56,350 --> 00:49:59,426 but instead of becoming samurai moves with one hand, 778 00:49:59,450 --> 00:50:05,000 I kept it with two hands, so all the moves were two hands completely like that. 779 00:50:05,325 --> 00:50:07,587 The first swords were bits of wood, with the 780 00:50:07,611 --> 00:50:10,476 front projection material wrapped around them. 781 00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,176 Now the hardest thing for me on the first fights, 782 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,977 Darth Vader was a very heavy man. 783 00:50:16,001 --> 00:50:22,000 Obi-Wan Kenobi was a gentleman who had done some fencing for in the theatre. 784 00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:25,977 I had to teach them, if that was the sword, to stop before the touch, 785 00:50:26,001 --> 00:50:28,977 because the blades were breaking, we blokes so many blades. 786 00:50:29,001 --> 00:50:31,000 They'll just kept snapping. 787 00:50:39,350 --> 00:50:42,091 Across the Atlantic, Fox's head of production, Alan Lad Jr. 788 00:50:42,115 --> 00:50:48,000 , continued to offer Lucas his main, if not his only support from the studio. 789 00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:51,126 There was a lot of problems, yes. 790 00:50:51,150 --> 00:50:53,006 I mean, every board, meaning I attended, I 791 00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:54,977 mean, the subject is always about Star Wars. 792 00:50:55,001 --> 00:50:58,000 Well, it cost for rising, it's this, it's that. 793 00:50:58,150 --> 00:51:02,977 We've read drafts of scripts that make no sense to us 794 00:51:03,001 --> 00:51:06,326 in any way, shape or form, and it was rather unpleasant. 795 00:51:06,350 --> 00:51:09,084 The things that stick in my mind that made me laugh were like, 796 00:51:09,108 --> 00:51:12,526 "Memos, worry about whether or not the wokies should have pants. 797 00:51:12,550 --> 00:51:15,977 " They're looking at this thing and saying, "Couldn't you have some later hos and?" 798 00:51:16,001 --> 00:51:22,000 I thought, "Isn't this great, you know, of all the things to worry about?" 799 00:51:23,350 --> 00:51:25,030 The wokies has no pants. 800 00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:28,977 I think we were like two weeks over schedule. 801 00:51:29,001 --> 00:51:33,000 At that point, the board of directors at Fox started to panic, 802 00:51:33,150 --> 00:51:38,000 and tell Alan Lad Jr. that he had to shut that film down, regardless. 803 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:42,977 And so he came to me and said, "Look, you've got to finish in the next week. 804 00:51:43,001 --> 00:51:45,585 " Because I got another board meeting, and I can't 805 00:51:45,609 --> 00:51:47,977 go in there and say, "We're still shooting. 806 00:51:48,001 --> 00:51:51,001 " I kept going on the phone to their production department saying, 807 00:51:51,025 --> 00:51:53,489 "This is insane. If we put on a second crew to do 808 00:51:53,513 --> 00:51:55,977 this, it costs us more than going an extra week. 809 00:51:56,001 --> 00:51:59,072 " And they said, "It doesn't matter if the studio's opinion is that 810 00:51:59,096 --> 00:52:01,977 the day deadline is more important than the money you spent. 811 00:52:02,001 --> 00:52:05,762 " The final scenes were filmed at breakneck speed, with 812 00:52:05,786 --> 00:52:10,000 Lucas frantically bicycling from one soundstage to another. 813 00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:14,226 I think George suffered a lot more than I was aware of at the time, 814 00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:17,977 that I was very focused on what I was doing as this was a very busy movie. 815 00:52:18,001 --> 00:52:19,977 It was his non-stop, towards the dust. 816 00:52:20,001 --> 00:52:25,000 We did go over at the end, and we split into three units right at the end 817 00:52:25,225 --> 00:52:27,946 and Gary directed the second unit, and I had the 818 00:52:27,970 --> 00:52:31,298 distinction of directing the third unit of Star Wars. 819 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,977 My shots were things like close-up of R2D, she was third-foot going down. 820 00:52:38,001 --> 00:52:41,026 Nothing too dramatic, but that's how we finished it. 821 00:52:41,050 --> 00:52:47,000 I'm up. 822 00:52:47,350 --> 00:52:48,977 I hope that all men get the track that you might have 823 00:52:49,001 --> 00:52:51,977 commissioned, or this is going to be a real short trip. 824 00:52:52,001 --> 00:52:58,000 Fox originally slated Star Wars for a Christmas release in 1976. 825 00:52:58,050 --> 00:53:05,977 But the difficult shoot had put the film severely behind schedule. 826 00:53:06,001 --> 00:53:09,000 Can we just leave this party? 827 00:53:09,150 --> 00:53:13,977 We haven't smoked friends. 828 00:53:14,001 --> 00:53:14,977 Seems okay. 829 00:53:15,001 --> 00:53:15,977 We can get to it. 830 00:53:16,001 --> 00:53:17,977 I just hope the old man got the track to be in my commission. 831 00:53:18,001 --> 00:53:18,977 Look. 832 00:53:19,001 --> 00:53:20,977 Now there's a chance to go. 833 00:53:21,001 --> 00:53:24,043 With barely six months to go, there was almost 834 00:53:24,067 --> 00:53:26,977 no chance of delivering the project on time. 835 00:53:27,001 --> 00:53:30,126 I just finished shooting the movie, and it was exhausted. 836 00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:36,000 Basically, I had to go right from the shooting into the finishing without a break. 837 00:53:36,375 --> 00:53:39,226 Already anxious about meeting his deadline. 838 00:53:39,250 --> 00:53:43,251 Lucas was shocked when he saw the first assembly of his edited film that spring. 839 00:53:43,275 --> 00:53:44,977 They're the crotors that lose in cover. 840 00:53:45,001 --> 00:53:46,001 All right. 841 00:53:46,125 --> 00:53:47,977 I'll get it. 842 00:53:48,001 --> 00:53:51,977 The first cut of Star Wars was an unmitigated disaster. 843 00:53:52,001 --> 00:53:52,977 Rosa! 844 00:53:53,001 --> 00:53:53,977 Yeah, that's not fair. 845 00:53:54,001 --> 00:53:55,977 I'd started to see things cut together. 846 00:53:56,001 --> 00:53:56,977 I wasn't happy with it. 847 00:53:57,001 --> 00:54:00,977 I'd come in on weekends and I'd re-cut the film on my own. 848 00:54:01,001 --> 00:54:02,001 Great! 849 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:04,977 And I tried to get the editor cut up my way, and he 850 00:54:05,001 --> 00:54:06,977 didn't really want to, and so I had to let the editor go. 851 00:54:07,001 --> 00:54:09,000 So I had no editor. 852 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:09,977 I was behind schedule. 853 00:54:10,001 --> 00:54:11,977 I had to race to finish the movie. 854 00:54:12,001 --> 00:54:14,000 177 take two. 855 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,977 Lucas realized his only hope was to start from scratch. 856 00:54:17,001 --> 00:54:20,977 And I am C-22, human-cycle relations. 857 00:54:21,001 --> 00:54:24,000 And this is my counterpart, R2D. 858 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,000 Oh, hello. 859 00:54:28,050 --> 00:54:31,977 To re-cut the movie, he hired Paul Hirsch and Richard Chu. 860 00:54:32,001 --> 00:54:35,376 And for several months, he was able to borrow his wife, Marsha, 861 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,000 who was editing New York, New York, with Martin Scorsese. 862 00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:42,977 250, take seven. 863 00:54:43,001 --> 00:54:44,001 Roger? 864 00:54:44,650 --> 00:54:51,000 You must do what you'll feel is right, of course. 865 00:54:51,150 --> 00:54:54,000 Right now, I don't feel too good. 866 00:54:54,075 --> 00:54:57,977 On Star Wars, the trio's first task was to give the 867 00:54:58,001 --> 00:55:00,977 film an energy and pace that was sorely lacking. 868 00:55:01,001 --> 00:55:05,977 It was cut in a very traditional manner of just playing things out in 869 00:55:06,001 --> 00:55:13,000 masters and then going into the coverage and let the actors rhythm dictate 870 00:55:13,150 --> 00:55:18,977 the cuts rather than having the cuts kind of drive rhythm of the scenes. 871 00:55:19,001 --> 00:55:23,000 210 take three, contract. 872 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,000 Action! 873 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,977 So, there were consequently, there wasn't any excitement 874 00:55:31,001 --> 00:55:34,176 in the footage the way that it had been put together. 875 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,326 Richard and I would sort of leapfrog. 876 00:55:36,350 --> 00:55:38,977 If he was on one, I would, a real one, I would grab real two. 877 00:55:39,001 --> 00:55:44,000 And then when whoever finished that would grab real three and so forth. 878 00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:59,000 We used shots up until the very last frame. 879 00:55:59,250 --> 00:56:04,977 Very often, the very next frame would be the flash of the camera stop. 880 00:56:05,001 --> 00:56:08,977 For instance, there's a shot of one of the sand people who knocks Luke down 881 00:56:09,001 --> 00:56:12,977 and then he holds his weapon up over his head and he just did it once 882 00:56:13,001 --> 00:56:20,000 and he rocked it back and forth so he did it a number of times. 883 00:56:20,050 --> 00:56:24,000 The only things that are there is what's presentable 884 00:56:24,625 --> 00:56:28,000 and everything behind the scenes is the mess. 885 00:56:28,350 --> 00:56:30,977 With no chance of being ready by Christmas, 886 00:56:31,001 --> 00:56:35,000 a new release date was set for summer 1977. 887 00:56:35,425 --> 00:56:38,476 Some doubted that the movie would ever reach theaters. 888 00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:44,000 But as bad as things had been with the editing, the situation at ILM was even worse. 889 00:56:44,325 --> 00:56:48,226 The company was trying to create effects that had never been done before. 890 00:56:48,250 --> 00:56:50,226 They knew what they wanted to accomplish 891 00:56:50,250 --> 00:56:53,276 but they had yet to create anything usable for the film. 892 00:56:53,300 --> 00:56:57,977 They had spent half their budget and ultimately I had about four shots, 893 00:56:58,001 --> 00:57:01,026 none of which I would accept they were just not good. 894 00:57:01,050 --> 00:57:04,076 That was a pretty much of a low point and no special effects 895 00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:06,977 and I didn't even know whether we were going to get the ships to work. 896 00:57:07,001 --> 00:57:10,126 It was a pretty desperate time and we'd spent half the budget, 897 00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:14,000 building the motion control cameras and setting the shop up 898 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,000 and it was a disaster to say the least. 899 00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:21,977 The factory has to be built before the first 900 00:57:22,001 --> 00:57:24,026 can of peas can be sent to the supermarket 901 00:57:24,050 --> 00:57:27,977 and I think it was a year or more without any film coming out 902 00:57:28,001 --> 00:57:31,977 without one shot being finished because they were building optical printers, 903 00:57:32,001 --> 00:57:35,265 they were building cameras, we were building models. 904 00:57:35,375 --> 00:57:37,977 I know the George was disappointed in the work 905 00:57:38,001 --> 00:57:41,000 and I'm disappointed that he was disappointed 906 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,977 but there's a certain subjectivity to some of that stuff. 907 00:57:44,001 --> 00:57:50,977 I wish he'd been happier but I also think that ultimately the work did the job. 908 00:57:51,001 --> 00:58:02,977 When word of the various post-production problems 909 00:58:03,001 --> 00:58:06,977 reached the Fox Board of Directors, they decided they'd 910 00:58:07,001 --> 00:58:09,977 had enough of George Lucas and that science movie. 911 00:58:10,001 --> 00:58:13,137 I just said that when executive committee meeting, 912 00:58:13,350 --> 00:58:15,026 they were calling me over the call. 913 00:58:15,050 --> 00:58:17,326 They just said it's greatest picture, right? 914 00:58:17,350 --> 00:58:19,076 That ended the conversation. 915 00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:22,977 They were afraid to say, well, you're stupid and you're wrong 916 00:58:23,001 --> 00:58:27,289 and who are you out of this building by five o'clock this afternoon? 917 00:58:27,450 --> 00:58:31,977 So, you're a sentence woman's there. 918 00:58:32,001 --> 00:58:36,000 With the dismal early cut of the film, ILM and Chaos 919 00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:38,176 and growing pressure from the studio, 920 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,977 Lucas was facing almost unbearable battles on a daily basis. 921 00:58:42,001 --> 00:58:48,000 After an especially tense trip to ILM, Lucas felt sharp chest pains. 922 00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:52,526 Fearing a heart attack, the director checked into a Marin County hospital, 923 00:58:52,550 --> 00:58:55,576 he was diagnosed with hypertension and exhaustion 924 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,977 and was warned to reduce his stress level. 925 00:58:58,001 --> 00:59:00,401 At that point I really felt that I'd 926 00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:05,026 got myself into a real mess and I didn't know whether I was going to get it out. 927 00:59:05,050 --> 00:59:08,000 Lucas doubled his efforts to save Star Wars. 928 00:59:08,350 --> 00:59:10,977 The situation at ILM required drastic measures 929 00:59:11,001 --> 00:59:15,000 to get the film's crucial special effects back on track. 930 00:59:15,050 --> 00:59:18,000 Lucas had no choice but to step in personally. 931 00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:20,977 We put a production department in the special effects company. 932 00:59:21,001 --> 00:59:22,977 I went down there twice a week. 933 00:59:23,001 --> 00:59:25,126 There was a certain amount of resentment at first 934 00:59:25,150 --> 00:59:32,000 because they felt that they were being challenged a bit on how they had set it up. 935 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,977 We felt that there was a certain quasi-hippy 936 00:59:36,001 --> 00:59:38,326 mentality that some of them had about the schedule. 937 00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:40,977 Ultimately where I guess we were known as a country club. 938 00:59:41,001 --> 00:59:43,360 I think I'd look to those guys that there 939 00:59:43,384 --> 00:59:46,176 needed to be a really strong production force 940 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,000 in there that was going to meet some sort of quota. 941 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,509 With hundreds of shots left to be completed, ILM would 942 00:59:56,533 --> 01:00:00,000 have to do a year's worth of work in just six months. 943 01:00:00,350 --> 01:00:03,977 But Lucas and Kurtz would determine to turn the situation around. 944 01:00:04,001 --> 01:00:10,977 Gary was a gear hit so he could understand our problems. 945 01:00:11,001 --> 01:00:14,000 And George is a storyteller. 946 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,226 And so we have to serve his needs because he's the one that's telling the story. 947 01:00:19,250 --> 01:00:21,977 But we had to build these incredible contraptions in order to do it. 948 01:00:22,001 --> 01:00:23,977 George was our general. 949 01:00:24,001 --> 01:00:26,977 We're his soldiers and we're all fighting this single battle. 950 01:00:27,001 --> 01:00:30,977 To get this film out, we're going on the front lines here. 951 01:00:31,001 --> 01:00:34,126 And that gave us also kind of a feeling of being special 952 01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:38,977 and fighting this great battle to get this thing done, whatever it is. 953 01:00:39,001 --> 01:00:49,977 To help inspire the effects team at ILM, 954 01:00:50,001 --> 01:00:54,033 Lucas had spliced together aerial dogfights from old war movies. 955 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,357 That would be like the first animatic, which 956 01:00:56,381 --> 01:00:58,176 you do all in the computer now, of course. 957 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,977 And we matched frame to frame and the action on that as close as we could. 958 01:01:02,001 --> 01:01:07,977 And it was hugely helpful. 959 01:01:08,001 --> 01:01:16,977 To describe that abstract world of a battle is impossible. 960 01:01:17,001 --> 01:01:20,977 Storyboards don't do it as far as the pacing, the rhythms that he needed. 961 01:01:21,001 --> 01:01:26,977 That was a great thing. 962 01:01:27,001 --> 01:01:40,000 As fall turned to winter, Star Wars finally started to take shape. 963 01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:48,000 Working from the raw production tracks, 964 01:01:48,250 --> 01:01:51,977 sound designer Ben Bird would add a critical new layer to the film. 965 01:01:52,001 --> 01:01:54,751 Bird had spent a year building a catalog of 966 01:01:54,775 --> 01:01:58,000 sounds for things that didn't exist in our galaxy. 967 01:01:58,250 --> 01:02:04,977 George introduced the idea of what he called an organic soundtrack. 968 01:02:05,001 --> 01:02:08,554 George thought that Chewbacca might be made up 969 01:02:08,578 --> 01:02:11,977 from recordings of dogs or maybe even bears. 970 01:02:12,001 --> 01:02:16,977 In addition, I recorded some lions and tigers and even some walruses. 971 01:02:17,001 --> 01:02:24,977 I would begin editing them together and making little phrases out of the noises. 972 01:02:25,001 --> 01:02:26,977 I would take the recordings to edit the best pieces. 973 01:02:27,001 --> 01:02:32,977 You know, the bear might make a sound that sounded angry. 974 01:02:33,001 --> 01:02:36,000 Or they might make a sound that was cute. 975 01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:43,977 Or a sound that sounded like a sentence while walking of a sound. 976 01:02:44,001 --> 01:02:48,834 The voice of R2 turned out to be the most difficult 977 01:02:48,858 --> 01:02:53,977 problem to solve in a sound design of the first movie. 978 01:02:54,001 --> 01:02:57,977 Because R2 had to act alongside of the other actors. 979 01:02:58,001 --> 01:03:02,977 And the script only said that R2 made a sound or maybe R2 beep. 980 01:03:03,001 --> 01:03:06,477 I had a small electronic synthesizer and I did some 981 01:03:06,501 --> 01:03:10,000 patches with it and made up some electronic sounds. 982 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,067 But that didn't sound alive. 983 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,157 At one point we talked about R2's personality and 984 01:03:16,181 --> 01:03:20,000 we felt he was developing kind of as a toddler. 985 01:03:20,175 --> 01:03:22,977 So I did a lot of baby recordings. 986 01:03:23,001 --> 01:03:26,977 And eventually we found that we were in the discussion of R2's voice. 987 01:03:27,001 --> 01:03:29,000 We were making the sounds. 988 01:03:29,325 --> 01:03:32,888 A few experiments led to the combination of 989 01:03:32,912 --> 01:03:37,000 using my voice, doing baby talk, beeps and boobs. 990 01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:42,526 With the electronic synthesizer, so R2 is sort of 50% machine and 991 01:03:42,550 --> 01:03:48,000 50% organic coming out of, you know, the performance of a person. 992 01:03:48,550 --> 01:03:53,208 The breeding for Vader was recorded by putting a little 993 01:03:53,232 --> 01:03:58,000 tiny microphone down inside a regulator on a scuba tank. 994 01:03:59,025 --> 01:04:04,977 I breathed through the mask itself and it breathed in and out. 995 01:04:05,001 --> 01:04:09,977 And out of that came the various, you know, paces of Vader breathing. 996 01:04:10,001 --> 01:04:15,977 And that sound worked out pretty successfully. 997 01:04:16,001 --> 01:04:21,000 Finding the right voice for Darth Vader was another challenge. 998 01:04:21,625 --> 01:04:27,977 Lucas had never intended to use the onset vocal performance of David Prouse. 999 01:04:28,001 --> 01:04:34,588 I can still hear David Prouse's accent in the Darth 1000 01:04:34,612 --> 01:04:42,000 Vader mask muffled because he would do the real dialogue. 1001 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:53,000 I'm trying to curse Carrie Fisher or something. 1002 01:04:53,050 --> 01:04:55,065 It was hilarious and terrifying at the same time 1003 01:04:55,089 --> 01:04:57,526 because we didn't know what Darth sound like. 1004 01:04:57,550 --> 01:04:59,026 That was the first time we heard him. 1005 01:04:59,050 --> 01:05:00,050 Is that it? 1006 01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:03,826 Is there going to be some Scottish guy or what is this? 1007 01:05:03,850 --> 01:05:08,433 Prouse's voice would later be replaced with a more menacing performance 1008 01:05:08,457 --> 01:05:13,000 provided by classically trained stage and film actor James Earl Jones. 1009 01:05:13,700 --> 01:05:18,867 George had hired David Prouse, but he said he wanted a so-called 1010 01:05:18,891 --> 01:05:24,000 darker voice and not in terms of ethnic but in terms of timbre. 1011 01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,977 And the rumor is that he thought of Orson Wells. 1012 01:05:29,001 --> 01:05:33,000 And then probably thought that Orson might be too recognizable. 1013 01:05:34,050 --> 01:05:37,501 So what he ends up is picking a voice that was born in 1014 01:05:37,525 --> 01:05:41,000 Mississippi, raised in Michigan, and was a stuttering. 1015 01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:43,977 And that happened to be my voice. 1016 01:05:44,001 --> 01:05:47,001 I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you. 1017 01:05:47,025 --> 01:05:48,977 I don't know what you're talking about. 1018 01:05:49,001 --> 01:05:51,977 I'm a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan. 1019 01:05:52,001 --> 01:05:54,977 You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor. 1020 01:05:55,001 --> 01:05:56,041 Take it away! 1021 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,977 C-3PO's voice struck us all as, you know, well, we've got to do something about that. 1022 01:06:01,001 --> 01:06:03,000 Ready for take three? 1023 01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:05,977 It seemed to be made to suffer its own loss in life. 1024 01:06:06,001 --> 01:06:10,977 It was mentioned a number of times that C-3PO might sound like a used car salesman. 1025 01:06:11,001 --> 01:06:14,000 Not the English butler type. 1026 01:06:14,250 --> 01:06:23,000 I just came up with this voice of an over the top British butler. 1027 01:06:23,050 --> 01:06:25,854 British because that would be my natural mode of 1028 01:06:25,878 --> 01:06:28,977 thinking about the because that was his role in life. 1029 01:06:29,001 --> 01:06:32,000 Nervous because that was his feeling in life. 1030 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,000 And it came as C-3PO human cyborg relations. 1031 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,977 And this is my counterpart, Arton Dieten. 1032 01:06:39,001 --> 01:06:39,977 Hello. 1033 01:06:40,001 --> 01:06:43,360 A few people were brought in the record and an attempt was 1034 01:06:43,384 --> 01:06:46,977 made to see how C-3PO would be with different kinds of voices. 1035 01:06:47,001 --> 01:06:48,977 I believe thirty actors coming. 1036 01:06:49,001 --> 01:06:51,226 It's really quite impressive names. 1037 01:06:51,250 --> 01:06:54,977 Stan Freeberg and a few others were auditioned. 1038 01:06:55,001 --> 01:06:57,863 Apparently one of them was a major cartoon actor, a 1039 01:06:57,887 --> 01:07:00,977 man of literally a thousand voices who eventually said, 1040 01:07:01,001 --> 01:07:02,881 "You won't think something George taught 1041 01:07:02,905 --> 01:07:04,977 this voice is pretty good for the character. 1042 01:07:05,001 --> 01:07:07,268 Why didn't he just use his voice?" 1043 01:07:07,300 --> 01:07:11,977 And eventually the discussion just quieted down and it was an excellent performance. 1044 01:07:12,001 --> 01:07:13,977 Synchronized with his body motions. 1045 01:07:14,001 --> 01:07:17,000 It was a total character which he created. 1046 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,326 His track was left in the movement. 1047 01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:21,977 Hey, we don't serve their kind here. 1048 01:07:22,001 --> 01:07:22,977 What? You're a droid. 1049 01:07:23,001 --> 01:07:24,977 They don't have to win outside. 1050 01:07:25,001 --> 01:07:25,977 We don't want them here. 1051 01:07:26,001 --> 01:07:26,977 It's way up by the speeder. 1052 01:07:27,001 --> 01:07:27,977 We don't want them in trouble. 1053 01:07:28,001 --> 01:07:30,176 I ought to be a pretty big upset. 1054 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:37,000 Here we go, cutting the sublighters. 1055 01:07:37,350 --> 01:07:50,977 At long last, the editing sound and visual effects were taking shape. 1056 01:07:51,001 --> 01:07:54,646 But a private screening of the film for Lucas' closest 1057 01:07:54,670 --> 01:07:57,977 friends didn't do much to bolster his confidence. 1058 01:07:58,001 --> 01:08:02,977 It was an early stage, sort of a second or third cut. 1059 01:08:03,001 --> 01:08:06,000 I had a couple of my friends come up to see it. 1060 01:08:06,650 --> 01:08:07,977 Brian DiPomo was in town. 1061 01:08:08,001 --> 01:08:08,977 Steven came. 1062 01:08:09,001 --> 01:08:11,268 Some other friends came to see it. 1063 01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:14,226 The human characters were there and the sets were there. 1064 01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:19,638 But of course, all the spectacular, you know, the Death Star fight and the 1065 01:08:19,662 --> 01:08:25,000 battle inside the trench and all that was just not even there to be seen. 1066 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,977 So, the reaction was not a good one. 1067 01:08:30,001 --> 01:08:31,001 I loved the movie. 1068 01:08:31,025 --> 01:08:33,977 I was probably one of the only people in the audience who liked the movie. 1069 01:08:34,001 --> 01:08:34,977 Some of my friends were very honest. 1070 01:08:35,001 --> 01:08:35,977 I don't get it. 1071 01:08:36,001 --> 01:08:38,000 What are you doing here? 1072 01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,176 That was basically the tenor of the whole thing. 1073 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,043 On the other hand, the studio and Laddie and 1074 01:08:43,067 --> 01:08:45,977 his little group saw the film, they loved it. 1075 01:08:46,001 --> 01:08:48,554 It's the first time I've actually shown a film and 1076 01:08:48,578 --> 01:08:51,376 one of the executives even cried at the screen. 1077 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,977 It was very emotional for me. 1078 01:08:54,001 --> 01:08:58,000 I sat in my family around the kitchen table in my house. 1079 01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:01,977 And I said, the most extraordinary day of my life has just taken place. 1080 01:09:02,001 --> 01:09:06,977 I want you to remember this day because this is what I never dreamed. 1081 01:09:07,001 --> 01:09:10,505 Or maybe I dreamed, but I never thought I would have a day of 1082 01:09:10,529 --> 01:09:13,977 experience like the day I've had today and seeing this film. 1083 01:09:14,001 --> 01:09:16,977 You know, and I couldn't even believe it because I'm used to studios. 1084 01:09:17,001 --> 01:09:19,176 At that point I was used to studio chief saying, you know, this is terrible. 1085 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,476 You know, you shouldn't show this to an audience embarrassing like that stuff. 1086 01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:24,662 So for me, it was, you know, a very rewarding thing 1087 01:09:24,686 --> 01:09:27,576 to show it to people, even though it was in bad shape. 1088 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,977 It didn't help that one critical element in Star Wars was still missing. 1089 01:09:32,001 --> 01:09:33,977 There's no lock! 1090 01:09:34,001 --> 01:09:36,000 It's a musical score. 1091 01:09:36,150 --> 01:09:38,977 That'll hold it for a while. 1092 01:09:39,001 --> 01:09:39,977 We've got to get across. 1093 01:09:40,001 --> 01:09:41,977 Find the patrols and extend the bridge. 1094 01:09:42,001 --> 01:09:42,977 Look at this glass of it. 1095 01:09:43,001 --> 01:09:44,977 They're coming through! 1096 01:09:45,001 --> 01:09:47,977 I remember we were biking in George Island. 1097 01:09:48,001 --> 01:09:48,977 When can we hear the score? 1098 01:09:49,001 --> 01:09:50,176 When can we hear the score? 1099 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:50,977 What can we hear the score? 1100 01:09:51,001 --> 01:09:54,307 Fortunately, Lucas was able to recruit one of the 1101 01:09:54,331 --> 01:09:58,000 industry's most accomplished composers, John Williams. 1102 01:09:58,650 --> 01:10:04,931 Williams had recently won an Oscar for Steven Spielberg's Jaws, and his resume included countless 1103 01:10:04,955 --> 01:10:10,977 film and television scores, including music for the original Lost in Space Television series. 1104 01:10:11,001 --> 01:10:15,334 I do remember George talking about the fact that what we were 1105 01:10:15,358 --> 01:10:19,977 going to see from the film represents worlds that we hadn't seen. 1106 01:10:20,001 --> 01:10:24,977 But that the music should give us some kind of an emotional anchor. 1107 01:10:25,001 --> 01:10:29,331 We heard a romantic melody for Princess Leia, 1108 01:10:29,355 --> 01:10:33,977 we heard Bella Cosm music for the battle scenes. 1109 01:10:34,001 --> 01:10:41,977 And some very heavy declamatory thing for Darth Vader. 1110 01:10:42,001 --> 01:10:46,747 In March 1977, John Williams led the London Symphony 1111 01:10:46,771 --> 01:10:51,977 Orchestra in the performance of the Star Wars soundtrack. 1112 01:10:52,001 --> 01:10:56,549 Recorded over 12 days, it was a sweeping symphonic masterpiece, 1113 01:10:56,573 --> 01:11:00,977 one of the few things to actually exceed Lucas' expectations. 1114 01:11:01,001 --> 01:11:09,482 To hear Johnny play the music for the first 1115 01:11:09,506 --> 01:11:18,977 time is a thrill beyond anything I can describe. 1116 01:11:19,001 --> 01:11:22,219 It was my first opportunity to work with the 1117 01:11:22,243 --> 01:11:25,977 London Symphony Orchestra which was a thrill to me. 1118 01:11:26,001 --> 01:11:45,000 He really understood the genre that I was talking about. 1119 01:11:45,050 --> 01:11:48,977 It's a group of composers that weren't that well looked upon in the '70s. 1120 01:11:49,001 --> 01:11:53,226 It was a different attitude toward the old fashion symphonic and the scores. 1121 01:11:53,250 --> 01:11:54,977 And I had a lot of music in the movie. 1122 01:11:55,001 --> 01:12:07,977 Somewhere in space, this may all be happening right now. 1123 01:12:08,001 --> 01:12:08,977 There they go. 1124 01:12:09,001 --> 01:12:15,977 Fox said they wanted a trailer out for the Christmas films before the summer released. 1125 01:12:16,001 --> 01:12:20,000 We didn't have any visual effects shots, ready then. 1126 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,977 So we said, "Well, that's going to be limiting and what footage can be. 1127 01:12:24,001 --> 01:12:31,977 " It's a big, sprawling space saga of rebellion and romance. 1128 01:12:32,001 --> 01:12:35,176 What was really cool about the trailer was that we were still working on the movie. 1129 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:47,977 It's an epic of heroes and villains and aliens from a thousand worlds. 1130 01:12:48,001 --> 01:12:49,977 It was more about the spirit of it. 1131 01:12:50,001 --> 01:12:53,337 It introduced a lot of different characters, the robots, one 1132 01:12:53,361 --> 01:12:56,977 thing they did have was a couple of the very early, white savers. 1133 01:12:57,001 --> 01:13:08,977 Star Wars, a billion years in the making, and it's coming to your galaxy this summer. 1134 01:13:09,001 --> 01:13:11,977 It was fun. 1135 01:13:12,001 --> 01:13:15,546 Industry insiders had been predicting doom for Star 1136 01:13:15,570 --> 01:13:19,000 Wars, but a small army of fans had been building. 1137 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,977 Thanks to the foresight of Lucasfilm. 1138 01:13:22,001 --> 01:13:25,476 Charles Lipincott was brought in as a marketing director. 1139 01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:27,251 He was a science fiction fan. 1140 01:13:27,275 --> 01:13:31,051 He had contacts with the fan base that was critical we felt. 1141 01:13:31,850 --> 01:13:35,576 The science fiction fans were going to be the big supporter of this film, 1142 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,000 regardless of its popularity with any other audience. 1143 01:13:39,150 --> 01:13:43,000 So that was the key target audience to start with. 1144 01:13:43,450 --> 01:13:46,126 Aside from licensing posters and t-shirts, 1145 01:13:46,150 --> 01:13:48,777 there was little support outside of Lucasfilm's 1146 01:13:48,801 --> 01:13:51,334 marketing efforts to promote Star Wars. 1147 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,845 Fortunately, Charles Lipincott was able to secure 1148 01:13:54,869 --> 01:13:58,005 a comic book deal with Stan Lee and Marvel Comics. 1149 01:13:58,050 --> 01:14:01,329 He also convinced Del Rey to publish a novelized 1150 01:14:01,353 --> 01:14:05,000 version of George Lucas' screenplay in November 1976. 1151 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:11,000 By February the next year, half a million copies had completely sold out. 1152 01:14:11,850 --> 01:14:13,974 Fearing Star Wars would get crushed by other 1153 01:14:13,998 --> 01:14:15,977 summer movies like Smokey and the Bandit, 1154 01:14:16,001 --> 01:14:20,000 Fox moved its release to the Wednesday before Memorial Day, 1155 01:14:20,150 --> 01:14:22,977 but fewer than 40 theaters agreed to show it. 1156 01:14:23,001 --> 01:14:25,000 Nobody wanted to book it. 1157 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,876 That same summer in 1977, Fox release film called The Other Side of Midnight, 1158 01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:32,126 which was based on an enormously successful bestseller. 1159 01:14:32,150 --> 01:14:36,151 It wasn't a very good film, but it was a very, very much expected book. 1160 01:14:36,175 --> 01:14:43,000 And in order to exhibit The Other Side of Midnight, you have to exhibit Star Wars. 1161 01:14:43,700 --> 01:14:45,567 We set out a beautiful book, 1162 01:14:46,050 --> 01:14:48,026 and that didn't seem to make an impact on them at all. 1163 01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:49,977 We had very few bookings. 1164 01:14:50,001 --> 01:14:53,977 Well, so it wasn't that there had been time or news week, 1165 01:14:54,001 --> 01:14:59,977 or any of that's preceding this Edmund screen and hadn't gotten the reviews. 1166 01:15:00,001 --> 01:15:06,600 On the eve of Star Wars release, 20th century Fox, George Lucas, and the cast 1167 01:15:06,624 --> 01:15:10,000 and crew braced themselves for the worst. 1168 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:17,000 One way or another, May 25, 1977, would be a day they'd never forget. 1169 01:15:51,001 --> 01:15:55,001 Opening shot was one of the most important shots in the movie for the visual effects, 1170 01:15:55,025 --> 01:15:59,000 because if the audience bought that shot, you had them. 1171 01:16:05,001 --> 01:16:07,388 The combined chest of everybody just kind 1172 01:16:07,412 --> 01:16:09,977 of like the air was sucked out of the place. 1173 01:16:10,001 --> 01:16:12,977 And then when the white Star Wars era came overhead, I teared up. 1174 01:16:13,001 --> 01:16:15,977 It was so powerful. 1175 01:16:20,001 --> 01:16:26,977 I had seen that scene, but without music, without context, it's not the same thing. 1176 01:16:27,001 --> 01:16:31,977 We had doomed. 1177 01:16:34,001 --> 01:16:35,977 Help me, Obi-Wan, could it be? 1178 01:16:36,001 --> 01:16:39,977 There was this sort of weird electric kind of reaction. 1179 01:16:40,001 --> 01:16:42,026 One had never seen anything like it. 1180 01:16:47,001 --> 01:16:48,977 I'm going to make a gentle ice cream. 1181 01:16:51,001 --> 01:16:54,977 I had never experienced special effects that were so real. 1182 01:16:55,001 --> 01:16:57,977 ♪♪♪ I was dazzled. 1183 01:17:04,001 --> 01:17:08,977 I loved it, because I loved the story, and I loved the characters. 1184 01:17:09,001 --> 01:17:12,977 Somebody give this big walking carpet out of my way. 1185 01:17:13,001 --> 01:17:14,977 Good luck. 1186 01:17:15,001 --> 01:17:17,977 I thought that it was revolutionary. 1187 01:17:18,001 --> 01:17:19,977 This is a work of genius. 1188 01:17:20,001 --> 01:17:22,977 The force will be with you always. 1189 01:17:32,150 --> 01:17:32,977 We were in shock. 1190 01:17:33,001 --> 01:17:35,126 I felt like we were blasted in the back of our seats. 1191 01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:36,977 Man, that was -- who worked on this? I'm going in. 1192 01:17:37,001 --> 01:17:42,977 ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ I have not. 1193 01:17:51,001 --> 01:17:54,126 The theater was jammed full of people right down to the front, 1194 01:17:54,150 --> 01:17:58,000 and there was a lot of hollering and cheery going on. 1195 01:17:58,075 --> 01:17:59,977 You're all clear, kid. 1196 01:18:00,001 --> 01:18:01,977 No, let's go and sing and go home. 1197 01:18:04,001 --> 01:18:07,977 After it was over, everyone was like on Cloud 9. 1198 01:18:08,001 --> 01:18:12,977 Just kind of in shock, we had no clue what we were on. 1199 01:18:18,001 --> 01:18:19,076 It was wonderful. 1200 01:18:23,001 --> 01:18:27,977 I remember leaving the theater and having these kids asked us for autograph. 1201 01:18:28,001 --> 01:18:29,977 They didn't know you don't want our autograph. 1202 01:18:30,001 --> 01:18:31,401 We're like model builders. 1203 01:18:31,425 --> 01:18:33,326 No, no, we want you to sign this. 1204 01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:34,977 So we're thinking, wow, this must mean something. 1205 01:18:35,001 --> 01:18:36,977 People are asking for our autograph. 1206 01:18:39,001 --> 01:18:40,977 We were standing up at a pulley. 1207 01:18:41,001 --> 01:18:42,977 We were seeing this from my life. 1208 01:18:43,001 --> 01:18:44,977 And I'll never see it again. 1209 01:18:51,001 --> 01:18:54,000 We released, I think, at 37 theaters initially, 1210 01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:56,977 and, for 36 house records. 1211 01:18:57,001 --> 01:18:59,000 I was completely shocked. 1212 01:18:59,450 --> 01:19:02,000 It got an amazing response. 1213 01:19:02,300 --> 01:19:05,226 I used to drive by and look at the lines and think, 1214 01:19:05,250 --> 01:19:08,076 "What?" I mean, it was the first sort of blockbuster. 1215 01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:13,977 George Luke's "Star Wars," lifted us out of our sort of 1216 01:19:14,001 --> 01:19:19,000 depression of the '70s and into an awareness 1217 01:19:19,050 --> 01:19:22,000 and a focus on space and its possible future. 1218 01:19:22,450 --> 01:19:25,000 This movie stood by itself. 1219 01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:28,000 Timing is everything in art. 1220 01:19:28,700 --> 01:19:32,026 You bring out "Star Wars" too early, and it's Buck Rogers. 1221 01:19:32,050 --> 01:19:35,000 You bring it out too late, 1222 01:19:35,450 --> 01:19:37,101 and it doesn't fit our imagination. 1223 01:19:37,125 --> 01:19:39,977 You bring it out just as the war in Vietnam is ending. 1224 01:19:40,001 --> 01:19:45,000 When America feels uncertain of itself, when the old stories have died, 1225 01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:47,426 and you bring it out of that time, it's suddenly, 1226 01:19:47,450 --> 01:19:49,000 it's a new game. 1227 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,080 Also, it's a lot of fun. 1228 01:19:51,250 --> 01:19:54,000 It's a lot of fun to watch "Star Wars. 1229 01:19:54,350 --> 01:19:57,977 " People started seeing the world in the terms that "Star Wars" had laid down. 1230 01:19:58,001 --> 01:20:00,251 People would say, "May the Force be with you. 1231 01:20:00,275 --> 01:20:01,977 " It was a kind of code, almost. 1232 01:20:02,001 --> 01:20:04,977 It proved that you were one of the people who had seen the film, 1233 01:20:05,001 --> 01:20:08,026 and you were connecting with other people who had seen the film. 1234 01:20:08,050 --> 01:20:11,000 "Star Wars" became like a kind of handshake. 1235 01:20:11,050 --> 01:20:15,000 In the wake of "Star Wars," 1236 01:20:15,150 --> 01:20:16,977 everyone's careers were changed. 1237 01:20:17,001 --> 01:20:19,000 Over night, Mark Hamill, 1238 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,326 Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford 1239 01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:23,150 had become household names. 1240 01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:25,000 I felt like this. 1241 01:20:25,025 --> 01:20:25,977 Great. 1242 01:20:26,001 --> 01:20:28,068 Terrific. Now I can go to work. 1243 01:20:28,250 --> 01:20:29,977 Now I have an opportunity to take advantage 1244 01:20:30,001 --> 01:20:34,000 of the success of this film and go to work. 1245 01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:38,260 And as much as life changed for us, it changed for George as well. 1246 01:20:38,750 --> 01:20:41,476 About a month after it was released, I said, "Okay, it's a hit. 1247 01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:43,020 I can now go ahead. 1248 01:20:43,275 --> 01:20:44,977 I can make my other movies. 1249 01:20:45,001 --> 01:20:46,977 I'm going to do this. 1250 01:20:47,001 --> 01:20:49,977 " Ironically, the independent filmmaker 1251 01:20:50,001 --> 01:20:51,977 who wanted nothing to do with corporate Hollywood 1252 01:20:52,001 --> 01:20:55,000 was now credited with reinvigorating it. 1253 01:20:55,700 --> 01:20:59,977 In three weeks, Fox's stock price doubled to a record high. 1254 01:21:00,001 --> 01:21:03,977 A bunch of the guys I remember at that point ran out of a bunch of stock at Fox. 1255 01:21:04,001 --> 01:21:06,000 I wasn't smart enough. 1256 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:12,000 The greatest profit that 20th century Fox had ever made in a single year 1257 01:21:12,350 --> 01:21:14,000 with $37 million. 1258 01:21:14,650 --> 01:21:19,000 And in 19, whatever that year, the 7778, whatever that year was, 1259 01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:22,000 they made a profit of $79 million. 1260 01:21:23,125 --> 01:21:24,126 That was "Star Wars. 1261 01:21:24,150 --> 01:21:26,977 " The cultural impact of Lucas' outer space story 1262 01:21:27,001 --> 01:21:29,977 was greater than anything even he could have imagined. 1263 01:21:30,001 --> 01:21:34,000 Not just in the United States, but around the globe. 1264 01:21:34,650 --> 01:21:36,076 It wasn't a story of cultures, 1265 01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:40,001 it wasn't a story of nationalities, it wasn't a story of geography. 1266 01:21:40,025 --> 01:21:44,000 It was a story of mankind escaping his environment 1267 01:21:44,350 --> 01:21:47,217 to a life which everybody expects to happen, 1268 01:21:47,550 --> 01:21:50,176 but George Lucas was able to illustrate for us. 1269 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,000 This was what made it a success worldwide. 1270 01:21:54,750 --> 01:21:56,977 The movie did spectacular business across Europe, 1271 01:21:57,001 --> 01:22:00,977 but when Alan Ladd Jr. attended the premiere in Japan one year later, 1272 01:22:01,001 --> 01:22:03,977 he feared that the silence which followed the 1273 01:22:04,001 --> 01:22:07,329 screening indicated that "Star Wars" would be a flop. 1274 01:22:08,050 --> 01:22:10,126 He was relieved when he later found out that silence 1275 01:22:10,150 --> 01:22:13,977 was the greatest compliment a Japanese audience could give a film. 1276 01:22:14,001 --> 01:22:24,000 "We had the footprint ceremony in the Chinese theater. 1277 01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:30,977 " Thousands of people showed up, so we were sure, by then, 1278 01:22:31,001 --> 01:22:35,276 that there was much more to it than just the science fiction audience. 1279 01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:39,977 "I can see somebody there. You made about a seven-week conference. 1280 01:22:40,001 --> 01:22:48,977 " "I'm excited for George Miller. 1281 01:22:49,001 --> 01:22:52,977 " Not surprisingly, "Star Wars Greatest Fans" 1282 01:22:53,001 --> 01:22:56,977 were children, they thrilled to the fantasy adventures 1283 01:22:57,001 --> 01:22:59,977 of Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, and Princess Leia, 1284 01:23:00,001 --> 01:23:04,326 and they were eager to bring the experience of the movie home with them. 1285 01:23:04,350 --> 01:23:06,703 But Little Star Wars merchandise was available 1286 01:23:06,727 --> 01:23:09,593 for the first few months after its premiere. 1287 01:23:10,050 --> 01:23:12,977 To help promote the movie, Lucasfilm's Charles Lippincott 1288 01:23:13,001 --> 01:23:17,033 had tried to attract potential licensees before the film opened, 1289 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,597 but prior to Star Wars, there had been few 1290 01:23:19,621 --> 01:23:21,977 successful motion picture licensing campaigns 1291 01:23:22,001 --> 01:23:25,000 and Lippincott's attempts were flatly rejected. 1292 01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:31,000 Just one company, Kenner Toys, signed on shortly before Star Wars opened. 1293 01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:32,977 Kenner didn't believe the film would be a hit, 1294 01:23:33,001 --> 01:23:36,977 but they were interested in creating a modest line of colorful space toys. 1295 01:23:37,001 --> 01:23:41,977 When Star Wars became a smash, they were caught completely off guard. 1296 01:23:42,001 --> 01:23:46,000 Unable to produce toys in time for Christmas orders, 1297 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,576 Kenner resorted to selling boxed vouchers for Star Wars action figures. 1298 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,977 There wasn't anything available when the film came out. 1299 01:23:53,001 --> 01:23:57,977 There wasn't even anything available for the following Christmas of '77. 1300 01:23:58,001 --> 01:24:00,977 That was the infamous empty box campaign, 1301 01:24:01,001 --> 01:24:05,026 where the idea proposed by Kenner was that they'd be the wonderful boxes 1302 01:24:05,050 --> 01:24:07,126 with all the Star Wars illustrations on them, 1303 01:24:07,150 --> 01:24:08,977 and the kid would get this for Christmas and open it up, 1304 01:24:09,001 --> 01:24:13,426 and they'd be a little certificate in there saying, "You can get this toy in March. 1305 01:24:13,450 --> 01:24:17,151 " The Star Wars early bird certificate package knew from Kenner. 1306 01:24:17,175 --> 01:24:23,855 I lit up when I found out that they were going 1307 01:24:23,879 --> 01:24:32,977 to make my face a mask on a box of cereal, with little dots where to cut my eyes out. 1308 01:24:33,001 --> 01:24:35,977 The idea needed being on bubblegum cards. 1309 01:24:36,001 --> 01:24:40,326 You know, I thought you had to have athletic ability to be a bubblegum card. 1310 01:24:40,350 --> 01:24:44,000 So, I enjoyed the merchandising aspect of it. 1311 01:24:44,050 --> 01:24:47,977 You know, we signed away our likeness, so when I look 1312 01:24:48,001 --> 01:24:51,051 in the mirror, I have to pay Georgia a couple of bucks. 1313 01:24:51,075 --> 01:24:56,977 You're not really famous until you're a Pez dispenser, 1314 01:24:57,001 --> 01:24:59,977 but, you know, you sort of realize, "I'm not really famous. 1315 01:25:00,001 --> 01:25:03,000 Princess Leia is, and I look like her. 1316 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,326 " And, you know, Georgia, a couple of bucks. 1317 01:25:06,350 --> 01:25:11,000 For Lucas, protecting the quality and integrity of his vision, 1318 01:25:11,050 --> 01:25:14,977 became as important as gaining his financial independence from Hollywood Studios. 1319 01:25:15,001 --> 01:25:17,977 Merchandising offered a means to an end, 1320 01:25:18,001 --> 01:25:20,977 one that helped fuel support for more Star Wars 1321 01:25:21,001 --> 01:25:23,977 films, as well as other important projects. 1322 01:25:24,001 --> 01:25:27,076 In the world of merchandising, oh goodness gracious, 1323 01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:29,977 people came through us with ideas all the time, 1324 01:25:30,001 --> 01:25:33,076 every day, day and night, from all over the world, 1325 01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:37,322 for Star Wars merchandise, we were the ones in those 1326 01:25:37,346 --> 01:25:42,000 days to say, "No, sorry, that doesn't fit into our plan. 1327 01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:45,000 " At the 1978 Academy Awards, 1328 01:25:45,325 --> 01:25:47,977 Star Wars earned an impressive 10 Oscar nominations, 1329 01:25:48,001 --> 01:25:51,977 and took home seven, including statues for best 1330 01:25:52,001 --> 01:25:55,977 visual effects, sound, editing and production design. 1331 01:25:56,001 --> 01:25:57,977 It was terrific. 1332 01:25:58,001 --> 01:25:59,041 I don't know. 1333 01:25:59,150 --> 01:25:59,977 It was great. 1334 01:26:00,001 --> 01:26:00,977 It was like a dream come true. 1335 01:26:01,001 --> 01:26:01,977 It's American dream. 1336 01:26:02,001 --> 01:26:04,433 I wound up winning the Academy Award for Star Wars before 1337 01:26:04,457 --> 01:26:07,576 I'd even started thinking about winning the Academy Awards. 1338 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,626 My goal was to get another job. 1339 01:26:09,650 --> 01:26:10,977 While it didn't win for Best Picture, 1340 01:26:11,001 --> 01:26:15,977 its nomination was quite an achievement for George Lucas and his kids' movie. 1341 01:26:16,001 --> 01:26:25,000 In addition to industry acclaim, 1342 01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:28,977 Star Wars earned more money than any movie in history. 1343 01:26:29,001 --> 01:26:31,977 After years of fighting uphill battles, 1344 01:26:32,001 --> 01:26:34,977 Lucas could finally call his own shots with the studios. 1345 01:26:35,001 --> 01:26:37,977 When Fox approached him about doing the inevitable sequel, 1346 01:26:38,001 --> 01:26:43,977 it was the moment the filmmaker had long been waiting for. 1347 01:26:44,001 --> 01:26:48,651 This was a perfect opportunity to become independent of the Hollywood system. 1348 01:26:48,675 --> 01:26:49,977 I didn't mind releasing it through them, 1349 01:26:50,001 --> 01:26:53,076 but it was really going to them for the money and them saying, 1350 01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:55,376 "Well, I like the script, but I want to change. 1351 01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,051 " The film is good, but we want to make these changes. 1352 01:26:58,075 --> 01:26:59,977 That's the part I wanted to avoid. 1353 01:27:00,001 --> 01:27:02,526 I decided I was going to finance the film myself, 1354 01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:06,000 and I was going to make it completely independently. 1355 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,076 The rule in Hollywood is never put your own money in any film, 1356 01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:11,977 even your own film. 1357 01:27:12,001 --> 01:27:14,001 But George was self-financing. 1358 01:27:14,150 --> 01:27:16,076 They Empire Strikes Back, but he was doing it through the bank, 1359 01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:20,260 and we were talking about close to a $30 million film at the time. 1360 01:27:20,450 --> 01:27:24,000 But because of the huge success of the first picture, 1361 01:27:24,150 --> 01:27:28,977 and of the revenues that were still rolling in, I merchandising was very strong. 1362 01:27:29,001 --> 01:27:32,977 It was a gamble, but a gamble that he knew would pay off. 1363 01:27:33,001 --> 01:27:35,076 With his earnings from Star Wars, 1364 01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:39,196 Lucas was able to secure a bank loan for the Empire Strikes Back. 1365 01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:45,000 Empire's original budget was $25 million, more than twice that of the first film. 1366 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:58,000 We would meet at Medway, which was George's San Francisco office, 1367 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,977 and look at the illustrations while George was writing the script, 1368 01:28:03,001 --> 01:28:08,000 and Gary Kurz would fly in occasionally from London, 1369 01:28:08,250 --> 01:28:11,150 and Ralph Macquarie would send down drawings, 1370 01:28:11,250 --> 01:28:15,000 conceptual designs, as well as Joe Johnson. 1371 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:22,000 The Empire Strikes Back would reunite much of the Star Wars cast. 1372 01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:24,977 It would also move the story in new directions, 1373 01:28:25,001 --> 01:28:27,977 digging more deeply into the emotions of the characters. 1374 01:28:28,001 --> 01:28:32,076 George had been given enormous license by the success of Star Wars, 1375 01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:37,092 and so when he started talking to me about the Empire script that didn't exist, 1376 01:28:37,550 --> 01:28:41,276 he knew what had happened in the story, and it was very dark stuff. 1377 01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:46,000 I was delighted that it was not going to be a rehash of Star Wars, 1378 01:28:46,050 --> 01:28:51,000 but in fact, after having set the whole thing up and got that rousing start, 1379 01:28:51,450 --> 01:28:55,426 you launch into the second act in which everything goes to hell, 1380 01:28:55,450 --> 01:28:58,977 and that's usually the best act in a play. 1381 01:28:59,001 --> 01:29:05,977 Empire would also open the door to a romance between Han Solo and Princess Leia, 1382 01:29:06,001 --> 01:29:09,977 but this time George Lucas wasn't getting in the director's chair. 1383 01:29:10,001 --> 01:29:13,000 It was just too hard to set up a company, 1384 01:29:13,975 --> 01:29:17,000 to get the money, get the film made, 1385 01:29:17,300 --> 01:29:21,276 and also be down there on the set every day trying to direct it. 1386 01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:24,000 So I decided I'd hire a director. 1387 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,977 I was asked by George to come to launching Universal, 1388 01:29:28,001 --> 01:29:32,000 and he said, "How would you like to do the second Star Wars?" 1389 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,467 We had no title for it at that point. 1390 01:29:36,750 --> 01:29:39,977 And I said, "Gee, George, I don't think so. 1391 01:29:40,001 --> 01:29:44,000 " It's a phenomenal hit as a picture. 1392 01:29:44,300 --> 01:29:48,000 A second one can only be a second one. 1393 01:29:48,350 --> 01:29:54,000 It can't be as good because the first one is to break through. 1394 01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:59,977 And I told my agent about the meeting, and he said, "Are you crazy? Do it!" 1395 01:30:00,001 --> 01:30:06,977 There were approximately 64 sets on this 1396 01:30:07,001 --> 01:30:10,000 picture, which is much bigger than Star Wars. 1397 01:30:10,050 --> 01:30:14,000 George said the film has to be much better, 1398 01:30:14,500 --> 01:30:18,000 and much bigger, and much more complex than Star Wars, 1399 01:30:18,675 --> 01:30:25,000 because if the second one doesn't work, it's the end of Star Wars. 1400 01:30:25,450 --> 01:30:30,000 If it does work, then I can continue making more of them. 1401 01:30:30,650 --> 01:30:32,977 I said, "It doesn't put me in a very comfortable position. 1402 01:30:33,001 --> 01:30:36,000 " It's a hell of a responsibility. 1403 01:30:42,001 --> 01:30:45,977 Known for smaller, character-driven films like Up the Sandbox 1404 01:30:46,001 --> 01:30:51,000 and the eyes of Laura Mars, Irvin Kirchner had never directed a blockbuster, 1405 01:30:51,275 --> 01:30:55,977 but emphasis on character was just what this middle chapter needed. 1406 01:30:56,001 --> 01:31:00,000 The story line was much more difficult. 1407 01:31:00,275 --> 01:31:07,000 I felt I needed humor in the picture, and yet I couldn't have gags. 1408 01:31:07,300 --> 01:31:10,000 I felt I needed a love story, 1409 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:16,000 and yet I couldn't have a lot of smooching and kissing and all that stuff, 1410 01:31:16,250 --> 01:31:19,000 and it had to all be more implied. 1411 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:27,000 I knew I needed something powerful going on inside Luke's soul, 1412 01:31:27,250 --> 01:31:30,977 and he really carries the picture, of course. 1413 01:31:31,001 --> 01:31:34,201 So, I didn't know quite how I was going to do this. 1414 01:31:37,650 --> 01:31:39,977 In the years since the release of the First 1415 01:31:40,001 --> 01:31:43,000 Star Wars, now dubbed Episode 4, A New Hope, 1416 01:31:43,125 --> 01:31:45,000 ILM had come a long way. 1417 01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,101 The company was no longer a fledgling operation, 1418 01:31:48,125 --> 01:31:50,000 struggling to get by. 1419 01:31:50,350 --> 01:31:54,000 At the end of Star Wars, George invited the core group 1420 01:31:54,625 --> 01:31:55,977 to Northern California. 1421 01:31:56,001 --> 01:31:57,977 To start this whole new facility, they were ten of us, 1422 01:31:58,001 --> 01:32:01,009 and I was the only one that immediately came up. 1423 01:32:01,150 --> 01:32:02,977 I said, "You know, what are you kidding? 1424 01:32:03,001 --> 01:32:05,000 Stay here and van nighs. 1425 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,267 " And this crummy part of town, 1426 01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:09,251 and this dumpy building, you know, 1427 01:32:09,275 --> 01:32:13,000 that was inadequate from the very beginning, 1428 01:32:13,550 --> 01:32:15,230 or moved to Marin County. 1429 01:32:15,500 --> 01:32:19,977 I have a new building and have a new film to work on in this great environment. 1430 01:32:20,001 --> 01:32:22,000 It was like a no-brainer. 1431 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,026 Well, I'm Eric George saying, "Well, this time we got some money. 1432 01:32:26,050 --> 01:32:27,977 " And so, that was kind of nice. 1433 01:32:28,001 --> 01:32:33,176 We talked about, you know, should we top ourselves, or are we going to top ourselves? 1434 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,977 And I think it was more that, you know, let's just make it look cool. 1435 01:32:36,001 --> 01:32:37,026 I have some fun with it. 1436 01:32:37,050 --> 01:32:40,977 And George came up with, you know, some great story stuff. 1437 01:32:41,001 --> 01:32:44,977 We started on the walker, but we also had to build a pro bot, 1438 01:32:45,001 --> 01:32:48,101 which is the probe that is sent down by Darth Vader 1439 01:32:48,125 --> 01:32:54,000 that lands on the snow planet surface that then goes and looks for human life forms. 1440 01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,076 Joe had already drawn the drawings, George liked them, 1441 01:32:57,100 --> 01:33:01,000 but they were going to go to Norway to shoot 1442 01:33:01,050 --> 01:33:02,977 all those scenes, and they needed a prop. 1443 01:33:03,001 --> 01:33:05,977 They needed one that was, like, nine feet tall or something 1444 01:33:06,001 --> 01:33:09,137 like that, and scaled to have out in the distance. 1445 01:33:20,001 --> 01:33:23,009 The making of Empire was a whole set of problems 1446 01:33:23,225 --> 01:33:25,000 that we didn't anticipate. 1447 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:30,000 The picture was much bigger undertaking than originally conceived. 1448 01:33:31,050 --> 01:33:34,000 And the budget was quite a bit more. 1449 01:33:34,150 --> 01:33:36,076 Everybody who's dealt with visual effects 1450 01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:39,176 had never do snow because you can't maintain the color. 1451 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:43,376 We ignored all those warnings and decided to shoot in the snow anyway, 1452 01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,977 but it was a very time-consuming process. 1453 01:33:46,001 --> 01:33:48,134 And again, just like in Tunisia, 1454 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,067 we were in Norway shooting on this glacier, 1455 01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:56,000 and we had the worst winter in Scandinavia 1456 01:33:56,350 --> 01:34:01,000 than they'd had in 50 years, 20 below zero, 18 feet of snow. 1457 01:34:03,001 --> 01:34:03,977 It was a miserable location, 1458 01:34:04,001 --> 01:34:06,977 because we will cross this frozen thing up on this 1459 01:34:07,001 --> 01:34:08,977 glacier with these tracked vehicles to get there. 1460 01:34:09,001 --> 01:34:16,000 We had sort of like steaks like big twigs, almost in the ground, about every six feet. 1461 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:17,977 Because if it started snowing, you'd get a white eye. 1462 01:34:18,001 --> 01:34:20,151 You can't tell where you're going, 1463 01:34:20,175 --> 01:34:20,977 and it did one night. 1464 01:34:21,001 --> 01:34:22,977 I'd drove one of the tracked vehicles. 1465 01:34:23,001 --> 01:34:25,977 Without these, I never would have found my way back. 1466 01:34:26,001 --> 01:34:28,000 We get to Norway, 1467 01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:33,000 and I couldn't get out of the hotel to shoot, 1468 01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:37,977 because there was a wall of snow that was blown in that night. 1469 01:34:40,175 --> 01:34:45,039 So if we put the camera in the doorway of the hotel, going out the back door, 1470 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:50,977 the crew was all inside toasty warm, and Mark had to go out 1471 01:34:51,001 --> 01:34:54,426 into the snow and go running away from the ice creature, 1472 01:34:54,450 --> 01:34:56,977 and we never left the doorway. 1473 01:34:57,001 --> 01:35:00,000 And he froze the death, and we were flying. 1474 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:07,000 We finally shot all the scenes, knowing where the special effects, 1475 01:35:07,075 --> 01:35:11,977 where this thing would come down, the foot would come down and roll this stuff. 1476 01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:17,101 It was really tricky stuff. 1477 01:35:17,125 --> 01:35:21,000 You know, animating these things on the snowy set. 1478 01:35:21,150 --> 01:35:26,000 So initially, I think that the intent was to try and set up 1479 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,977 scenes that would be blue screen comped 1480 01:35:29,001 --> 01:35:32,000 into a background place of a shot on location. 1481 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:39,000 But this kid showed up at Island, who was this amazing painter. 1482 01:35:39,075 --> 01:35:46,000 And so most of the work of the snowwalkers and the tontons were 1483 01:35:46,050 --> 01:35:48,977 done against these, these painted backdrops that might made. 1484 01:35:49,001 --> 01:35:49,977 I like the snowwalkers. 1485 01:35:50,001 --> 01:35:52,201 I think that's just a great idea. 1486 01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:54,977 And I think that the composite got a lot better, 1487 01:35:55,001 --> 01:36:00,977 but it was better than it was in Star Wars, and so it's a little bit more believable. 1488 01:36:03,001 --> 01:36:05,977 The cast and crew of the Empire Strikes Back 1489 01:36:06,001 --> 01:36:08,977 were determined to make the second installment 1490 01:36:09,001 --> 01:36:11,977 of Star Wars were three years of waiting by fans. 1491 01:36:22,001 --> 01:36:24,977 All right, boys, keep tight now. 1492 01:36:25,001 --> 01:36:26,977 Look, I have no road factor. 1493 01:36:27,001 --> 01:36:27,977 I'm not set. 1494 01:36:28,001 --> 01:36:28,977 Steady, Jack. 1495 01:36:29,001 --> 01:36:30,977 I pack kind of Delta, go now. 1496 01:36:35,001 --> 01:36:37,000 As with the first film, 1497 01:36:37,250 --> 01:36:40,076 Principal Photography for the Empire Strikes Back 1498 01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:42,977 was done at Elstriss Studios in London. 1499 01:36:43,001 --> 01:36:45,151 Here, members of the original cast 1500 01:36:45,175 --> 01:36:47,977 would be introduced to a new principal character, 1501 01:36:48,001 --> 01:36:50,977 Lando Calrissian, played by Billy D. Williams. 1502 01:36:52,001 --> 01:36:56,000 Are you slimy, double-crossing, and no good swindler? 1503 01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:00,176 You've got a lot of guts coming here, after what you pulled. 1504 01:37:11,250 --> 01:37:13,977 How you doin', you'll fire it so good to see it! 1505 01:37:15,050 --> 01:37:16,977 Wait, he seems very friendly. 1506 01:37:17,001 --> 01:37:19,977 Yes. Very friendly. 1507 01:37:20,001 --> 01:37:24,000 It's always interesting to create a character that has, 1508 01:37:24,300 --> 01:37:27,000 you know, it's a sort of dual character. 1509 01:37:27,450 --> 01:37:29,526 You know, you're not quite sure about him, 1510 01:37:29,550 --> 01:37:32,376 especially if he's cute, and I was really kind of cute. 1511 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,000 Hello, what have we here? 1512 01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:36,977 Welcome, I'm Lando Calrissian. 1513 01:37:37,001 --> 01:37:39,526 I'm the administrator of this facility. 1514 01:37:39,550 --> 01:37:40,977 And who might you be? Lando. 1515 01:37:41,001 --> 01:37:42,026 Welcome, Lando. 1516 01:37:42,050 --> 01:37:44,000 1517 01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:50,000 All right, you're all smoothie. 1518 01:37:52,001 --> 01:37:57,000 The Empire Strikes Back also introduced a new villain to the saga, 1519 01:37:57,050 --> 01:38:01,000 the calculating cold-blooded bounty hunter, Boba Fett. 1520 01:38:01,850 --> 01:38:04,000 What's goin' on, buddy? 1521 01:38:04,300 --> 01:38:07,000 You've been put into carbon freeze. 1522 01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:09,076 What if he doesn't survive? 1523 01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:10,977 You learn a lot to me. 1524 01:38:11,001 --> 01:38:13,977 The Empire will compensate you if he dies. 1525 01:38:14,001 --> 01:38:14,977 What do you mean? 1526 01:38:15,001 --> 01:38:20,000 We looked at the scene where Han Solo goes into the freezing chamber. 1527 01:38:20,900 --> 01:38:24,977 George had scripted an exchange between Princess 1528 01:38:25,001 --> 01:38:27,977 Leia and Han Solo, which went like this. 1529 01:38:28,001 --> 01:38:30,000 She said, "I love you. 1530 01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:33,000 " And Han Solo said, "I love you too. 1531 01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:36,977 " And it kind of seemed to me that we weren't taking advantage 1532 01:38:37,001 --> 01:38:41,000 of the character that we'd established for Han Solo. 1533 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,000 We tried to take, if to take, 1534 01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:48,000 nothing satisfied me. 1535 01:38:48,500 --> 01:38:54,000 And finally, I said, "Harrison, don't think about it. 1536 01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:55,977 Don't think about it. Let's do it. Okay, action. 1537 01:38:56,001 --> 01:38:57,977 " I love you. 1538 01:38:58,001 --> 01:38:59,977 I know. 1539 01:39:00,001 --> 01:39:03,000 And he dropped in, and I said, "Cut. 1540 01:39:03,050 --> 01:39:07,977 " I said, "Yeah, it's a great line. That's Han Solo. 1541 01:39:08,001 --> 01:39:12,977 " Ironically, the most talked about new character 1542 01:39:13,001 --> 01:39:18,000 wasn't a human at all, but a two-foot tall puppet called Yoda. 1543 01:39:18,150 --> 01:39:21,977 Designed by Stuart Freeborn and operated by Muppeteer Frank Oz, 1544 01:39:22,001 --> 01:39:25,977 the tiny creature was a fully realized character 1545 01:39:26,001 --> 01:39:28,977 and a unique achievement in movie puppetry. 1546 01:39:29,001 --> 01:39:31,977 It all showed me a few original sketches. 1547 01:39:32,001 --> 01:39:34,977 And I thought, "Well, that's interesting, 1548 01:39:35,001 --> 01:39:39,000 "but I want something in more depth, you see. 1549 01:39:39,050 --> 01:39:42,058 " And so, I looked in the mirror, and I thought, 1550 01:39:43,100 --> 01:39:50,977 "Well, something perhaps a little bit amusing about my face. 1551 01:39:51,001 --> 01:39:53,268 " So I modeled something of myself, 1552 01:39:53,350 --> 01:39:56,101 and now I've got to make him look intelligent. 1553 01:39:56,125 --> 01:40:01,000 It's fair to go for my insight, and put the Einstein wrinkles in all around. 1554 01:40:01,850 --> 01:40:02,977 I did a lot of thinking about it, 1555 01:40:03,001 --> 01:40:07,000 because he's got to be full of subtle action and movements, 1556 01:40:07,300 --> 01:40:11,977 especially in the face and the body, and put it all 1557 01:40:12,001 --> 01:40:14,151 in, what was necessary to invite earlier or work. 1558 01:40:14,175 --> 01:40:19,000 I remember Stuart was under the gun, and it was very tense, very tense. 1559 01:40:19,150 --> 01:40:22,376 Had to get this thing done, we've got to start shooting with Yoda. 1560 01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,977 And so, while we're talking to him, 1561 01:40:25,001 --> 01:40:29,977 I just had Yoda's head, and I was just playing with it, and I dropped in a cranked. 1562 01:40:30,001 --> 01:40:31,977 So here we are. 1563 01:40:32,001 --> 01:40:35,000 You know, then Stuart said, "I need a drink. 1564 01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:36,140 " I think so. 1565 01:40:36,175 --> 01:40:38,977 It was terrible, because here we're pressing 1566 01:40:39,001 --> 01:40:40,977 so much, and I'm the one who's screwed it up. 1567 01:40:41,001 --> 01:40:49,000 In order to shoot the puppet movie, the set had to be built about five feet 1568 01:40:49,125 --> 01:40:53,000 above the floor of the stage. 1569 01:40:53,050 --> 01:40:59,977 And we would put holes or ridges where it would stand on top of it, 1570 01:41:00,001 --> 01:41:06,000 and he could move it along in a certain direction, so it had to be predetermined. 1571 01:41:06,550 --> 01:41:12,000 On top of the stage were trees, rocks, caves, everything. 1572 01:41:12,150 --> 01:41:17,977 Now, they couldn't hear above, and Mark couldn't hear Frank Oz. 1573 01:41:18,001 --> 01:41:19,376 How do you do a scene? 1574 01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:20,977 You can't hear each other. 1575 01:41:21,001 --> 01:41:24,000 I give Mark a lot of credit for this. 1576 01:41:24,350 --> 01:41:28,176 I can remember he actually, this little voice, called over to me, Norman Norman, 1577 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:33,000 and he said, "Actually, I actually blushed because it seems so real. 1578 01:41:33,150 --> 01:41:35,217 It's weird, weird little thing. 1579 01:41:35,450 --> 01:41:38,394 " It was tremendously difficult, physical work. 1580 01:41:38,650 --> 01:41:41,376 The whole floor was about three and a half, four feet high, 1581 01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,226 so I could be underneath the floor, 1582 01:41:43,250 --> 01:41:45,176 and then I would hold my hand up 1583 01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:49,526 and through a hole or whatever, and I remember Kirch was talking to me, 1584 01:41:49,550 --> 01:41:50,977 but he was talking to me, sometimes talked to Yoda, 1585 01:41:51,001 --> 01:41:53,076 and I'm saying, "Kurch, I can't hear him down here. 1586 01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:53,977 " Kind of the floor. 1587 01:41:54,001 --> 01:41:56,401 Not the big floor towards the light. 1588 01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,000 The other way. 1589 01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:04,000 But the pressure was extreme because I was taking too much time, 1590 01:42:04,450 --> 01:42:08,026 and the reason I was taking too much time was the first time it's ever been done. 1591 01:42:08,050 --> 01:42:11,977 You know, I had somebody doing the cables for the ears, 1592 01:42:12,001 --> 01:42:13,977 and somebody else was doing the cables for the eyes, 1593 01:42:14,001 --> 01:42:16,977 and somebody was doing the left hand, so I had me and 1594 01:42:17,001 --> 01:42:19,151 three other people trying to bring one character to life. 1595 01:42:19,175 --> 01:42:20,977 Santa was always good. 1596 01:42:21,001 --> 01:42:22,977 Yeah, just one second. 1597 01:42:23,001 --> 01:42:25,000 There. 1598 01:42:25,300 --> 01:42:27,000 That's it. 1599 01:42:27,125 --> 01:42:28,977 That's good, Graham. 1600 01:42:29,001 --> 01:42:30,977 Okay, we'll go back into that. 1601 01:42:31,001 --> 01:42:34,000 Ready. 1602 01:42:34,475 --> 01:42:36,155 I followed my feelings. 1603 01:42:36,300 --> 01:42:38,000 You are reckless. 1604 01:42:38,150 --> 01:42:41,000 So was I, if you remember? It is too old. 1605 01:42:41,450 --> 01:42:47,000 Yes, too old to begin the training. 1606 01:42:47,475 --> 01:42:50,000 I'm not afraid. 1607 01:42:50,300 --> 01:42:54,000 Oh, you will be. 1608 01:42:54,350 --> 01:42:56,000 You will be. 1609 01:42:56,150 --> 01:42:57,977 Sorry. 1610 01:42:58,001 --> 01:43:03,000 That was like a real leap, because of that puppet had not worked. 1611 01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,176 The whole film would have been down the tubes. 1612 01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,176 It just, you know, had been a disaster, 1613 01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,076 if it had been a silly little muppet, 1614 01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:12,977 if it had been Kermit right around in that movie. 1615 01:43:13,001 --> 01:43:15,326 The movie would have collapsed under the weight of it. 1616 01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:18,000 340 year take two MB cameras. 1617 01:43:18,500 --> 01:43:20,977 While many individuals helped bring Yoda to 1618 01:43:21,001 --> 01:43:24,073 life, it was Mark Hamill's believable performance 1619 01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:27,033 that made audiences accept the character. 1620 01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:28,977 Is the dark side stronger? 1621 01:43:29,001 --> 01:43:32,000 No. 1622 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,000 But the easier more seductive. 1623 01:43:35,550 --> 01:43:37,526 But how am I to know the good side of the bad? You will know. 1624 01:43:37,550 --> 01:43:39,000 1625 01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:41,076 When you are calm. 1626 01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:44,977 At least, for Hamill, playing a Jedi in training 1627 01:43:45,001 --> 01:43:47,076 was more than just a physical challenge. 1628 01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:50,000 It was also an emotional one. 1629 01:43:50,150 --> 01:43:53,977 I was the only human being on the call sheet for months. 1630 01:43:54,001 --> 01:43:57,000 It would say actor Mark Hamill, part Luke, 1631 01:43:57,500 --> 01:44:03,000 props, snakes, lizards, robots, smoke machines, 1632 01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,000 healing monsters. 1633 01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:08,000 If you choose the quick and easy path, 1634 01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:12,000 as Vader did, you will become an agent of evil, 1635 01:44:12,275 --> 01:44:17,000 and the galaxy will be plunged deeper into the abyss of hate and despair. 1636 01:44:17,500 --> 01:44:18,977 Are you standing right on the light? Yeah. 1637 01:44:19,001 --> 01:44:20,001 1638 01:44:20,700 --> 01:44:22,126 Didn't you bite me? 1639 01:44:22,150 --> 01:44:25,000 It was a little love net. 1640 01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:29,977 Frank Oz and his crew were there, but they could bury down underneath the ground. 1641 01:44:30,001 --> 01:44:33,000 If I had an earpiece where I could hear... 1642 01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:34,977 Oh, many years of you were. 1643 01:44:35,001 --> 01:44:38,977 And then if you turned your head the wrong way, you'd pick up Radio 1. 1644 01:44:39,001 --> 01:44:41,176 It was the Rolling Stone singing "Fool to Cry. 1645 01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,000 " I remember I reacted to that. 1646 01:44:44,050 --> 01:44:46,626 I went, "Hey, I got the stones!" And cursed her. 1647 01:44:46,650 --> 01:44:49,001 God! 1648 01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:52,000 And he's way across the bog. 1649 01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:56,001 You know, if that happens again, just pretend like you don't hear it, 1650 01:44:56,025 --> 01:45:00,977 because with all the elements of that set, the smoke is the smoke good. 1651 01:45:01,001 --> 01:45:02,076 You know, it's the snake. 1652 01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:03,026 Poke the snake. 1653 01:45:03,050 --> 01:45:03,977 Get the snake to move. 1654 01:45:04,001 --> 01:45:06,126 You know, you just lie in there. 1655 01:45:06,150 --> 01:45:09,977 So, you felt... Let's get our priority straight. 1656 01:45:10,001 --> 01:45:14,000 Because I'm concerned about how did I come off in the scene. 1657 01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,000 They were looking at everything but me. 1658 01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:29,977 I have to say, you wouldn't want to fall in that pool. 1659 01:45:30,001 --> 01:45:35,057 By the time you finish shooting, it's a full of all sorts of wide life and bugs. 1660 01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:40,384 It was absolutely fell after all those weeks of being in medicine, stagnant water. 1661 01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:42,977 I don't believe it. 1662 01:45:43,001 --> 01:45:45,000 I don't believe it. 1663 01:45:45,550 --> 01:45:48,000 Meg, it's why you fail. 1664 01:45:48,050 --> 01:46:00,977 As elaborately detailed as the set's word "L-Street Studios," 1665 01:46:01,001 --> 01:46:03,977 equally impressive was the work done in California. 1666 01:46:04,001 --> 01:46:06,834 ILM was able to produce special effects that would 1667 01:46:06,858 --> 01:46:09,977 light years ahead of those seen in the first Star Wars. 1668 01:46:10,001 --> 01:46:12,977 If you look at Star Wars, you're either kind of in space, 1669 01:46:13,001 --> 01:46:15,977 and they're all, and maybe the Death Star's back there, maybe it isn't. 1670 01:46:16,001 --> 01:46:18,977 And you have a number of shots on different planets. 1671 01:46:19,001 --> 01:46:22,000 If you look at Empire and it's broad, 1672 01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:26,977 you've got a speeder sequence, and two or three big dogfights, 1673 01:46:27,001 --> 01:46:28,977 you've got the whole cloud city and all the interiors 1674 01:46:29,001 --> 01:46:32,977 of different landscapes that are way beyond what we've done before. 1675 01:46:33,001 --> 01:46:35,423 So I think it was the breadth of the work that 1676 01:46:35,447 --> 01:46:38,226 I think differentiates that from the first show. 1677 01:46:38,250 --> 01:46:43,000 And each one of those sequences required different problem-solving skills. 1678 01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,000 We did this incredible chase through the asteroid field, 1679 01:47:03,250 --> 01:47:06,126 designing asteroids, and not as easy as you think. 1680 01:47:06,150 --> 01:47:09,587 And I remember many of us in the mile-shop tried 1681 01:47:09,611 --> 01:47:13,000 to come up with something that would look good. 1682 01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:17,977 And I think for some of the very far ones we had used potatoes. 1683 01:47:18,001 --> 01:47:36,977 The biggest problem I had is it just wasn't going 1684 01:47:37,001 --> 01:47:39,176 fast enough, and I was running out of money. 1685 01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,626 Every person was extremely good director, 1686 01:47:41,650 --> 01:47:43,977 but the film went over budget, went over schedule, 1687 01:47:44,001 --> 01:47:47,001 and all the money I had at Star Wars was committed to. 1688 01:47:47,025 --> 01:47:49,000 This film plus more. 1689 01:47:49,050 --> 01:47:52,000 We shot several scenes in Empire over again. 1690 01:47:52,450 --> 01:47:54,809 There's a scene in Cloud City where Han Solo 1691 01:47:54,833 --> 01:47:56,977 character is kind of pacing up and down, 1692 01:47:57,001 --> 01:48:00,977 and Princess Leia comes in, and he reacts to the way she looks, 1693 01:48:01,001 --> 01:48:05,676 because she's dressed differently than she has in the entire rest of the film. 1694 01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:07,220 You look beautiful. 1695 01:48:07,550 --> 01:48:10,226 You should wear girls clothes all the time. 1696 01:48:10,250 --> 01:48:12,977 We looked at the dailies, and we weren't happy with anything, really. 1697 01:48:13,001 --> 01:48:16,000 The attitude of the actors was too obvious. 1698 01:48:16,350 --> 01:48:19,000 Sit down. 1699 01:48:19,225 --> 01:48:20,977 Come on, talk to me. 1700 01:48:21,001 --> 01:48:25,000 And we could have let that go, but it just didn't feel right. 1701 01:48:25,450 --> 01:48:30,000 I hope Luke made it to the fleet, all right? 1702 01:48:30,450 --> 01:48:32,000 I'm sure he's fine. 1703 01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,826 I'm probably sitting around wondering what we're up to right now. 1704 01:48:35,850 --> 01:48:40,074 You know, your friend Lando's very charming, but I don't trust him. 1705 01:48:41,500 --> 01:48:43,300 It's an old friend of mine. 1706 01:48:50,900 --> 01:48:53,977 So we shot it in a slightly more subtle 1707 01:48:54,001 --> 01:48:56,326 fashion, which is the way it's in the film now. 1708 01:48:56,350 --> 01:48:57,977 I don't trust Lando. 1709 01:48:58,001 --> 01:48:59,977 Well, I don't trust him either. 1710 01:49:00,001 --> 01:49:02,000 He is my friend. 1711 01:49:02,500 --> 01:49:06,000 Besides, we're soon to go. 1712 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:13,000 And the nearest good is going, aren't you? 1713 01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:15,977 Although most production challenges had been 1714 01:49:16,001 --> 01:49:19,126 anticipated, and expectations were understandably high, 1715 01:49:19,150 --> 01:49:22,017 when Empire went over budget by $10 million. 1716 01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:25,977 Lucasfilm suddenly found itself in a fiscal crisis. 1717 01:49:26,001 --> 01:49:33,000 The forces with you young Skywalker, you are not a Jedi yet. 1718 01:49:33,225 --> 01:49:35,977 Three of the top executives of Bank America Entertainment 1719 01:49:36,001 --> 01:49:39,026 worked into my office saying we have to pull you along. 1720 01:49:39,050 --> 01:49:42,526 And I said, how can the largest bank in the entertainment business, 1721 01:49:42,550 --> 01:49:46,977 with the sequence of the most successful movie ever out, be wanting to pull my own? 1722 01:49:47,001 --> 01:49:50,977 And I said, well, we have a new credit manager, and he just has a rule. 1723 01:49:51,001 --> 01:49:51,977 Budget Douglass, he posed well. 1724 01:49:52,001 --> 01:49:54,134 One of the bankers quit over it. 1725 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:55,977 They knew it was a big mistake, but, you know, 1726 01:49:56,001 --> 01:50:00,176 I was stuck with trying to make a million dollar payroll that Friday. 1727 01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,000 Release your anger. 1728 01:50:02,500 --> 01:50:05,000 Only your hatred can destroy me. 1729 01:50:08,001 --> 01:50:10,977 Oh, that was the big difference between the 1730 01:50:11,001 --> 01:50:13,977 studio system and the independent view filmmaking. 1731 01:50:14,001 --> 01:50:20,977 The studio have a large resource to draw on for what they do, and independence don't. 1732 01:50:21,001 --> 01:50:22,977 So it's a much tighter situation. 1733 01:50:33,001 --> 01:50:35,977 I was just hoping the bank to allow me to finish 1734 01:50:36,001 --> 01:50:41,000 without going back to 20th Century Fox and giving away all my rights. 1735 01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:42,977 Because that's ultimately what my other choice was. 1736 01:50:43,001 --> 01:50:45,468 It was to just simply let them own it 1737 01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,176 and lose my independence. 1738 01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,326 But I wanted my independence so badly. 1739 01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:51,076 We managed to do it in a way that I paid them 1740 01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:52,977 just a little bit more money, but they didn't get 1741 01:50:53,001 --> 01:50:55,977 any of the licensing and get any of the sequels. 1742 01:50:56,001 --> 01:50:57,977 And that's what I was trying to hold on to. 1743 01:50:58,001 --> 01:51:00,026 If I had to pay the few extra points in order to get them 1744 01:51:00,050 --> 01:51:03,250 to guarantee a loan with the bank, I could do that. 1745 01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:07,376 And I think Fox was just as concerned that the movie get finished as we were. 1746 01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,051 While Empire's budget may have been tight, 1747 01:51:10,075 --> 01:51:13,083 security during the production was even tighter. 1748 01:51:13,450 --> 01:51:18,000 Only Lucas, Kirchner, and the film's producers knew the real story. 1749 01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:23,977 At the time, I knew that Mark had a father and that it was Darth Vader. 1750 01:51:24,001 --> 01:51:26,068 But this was not in the script. 1751 01:51:26,300 --> 01:51:29,000 It was a false page inserted. 1752 01:51:29,950 --> 01:51:33,977 And I had the knowledge the actors didn't even have it. 1753 01:51:34,001 --> 01:51:35,121 No one had it. 1754 01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:35,977 It was a total secret. 1755 01:51:36,001 --> 01:51:38,001 Script was under lock and key. 1756 01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:38,977 The models were under lock and key. 1757 01:51:39,001 --> 01:51:45,000 ILM was under lock and key and shrouded from the rest of the world. 1758 01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:49,000 The storyline of the movie was under lock and key. 1759 01:51:49,025 --> 01:51:51,977 It was useless to resist. 1760 01:51:52,001 --> 01:51:53,977 The film's shocking climax, 1761 01:51:54,001 --> 01:51:57,977 in which Darth Vader reveals Luke Skywalker's true parentage, 1762 01:51:58,001 --> 01:52:03,000 was kept as secret from nearly everyone, even David Prouss and Mark Hamill. 1763 01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:05,476 Hamill was told privately, 1764 01:52:05,500 --> 01:52:06,977 just moments before the cameras rolled. 1765 01:52:07,001 --> 01:52:10,000 I met with Mark and said, 1766 01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,977 "You know, the Darth Vader's your father. 1767 01:52:13,001 --> 01:52:14,001 " "What?" 1768 01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:18,026 They had taken me aside and said, "This is what he's really going to say. 1769 01:52:18,050 --> 01:52:20,183 And we're going to do the scene. 1770 01:52:20,450 --> 01:52:24,977 " And Darth Vader will be saying stuff that doesn't count. 1771 01:52:25,001 --> 01:52:26,001 Forget it. 1772 01:52:26,500 --> 01:52:30,000 Use your own rhythm compared to what he's doing. 1773 01:52:30,250 --> 01:52:41,977 There is no escape. 1774 01:52:42,001 --> 01:52:43,977 Don't make me destroy you. 1775 01:52:44,001 --> 01:52:45,276 We did a few takes, 1776 01:52:45,300 --> 01:52:46,977 and he finally got into it. 1777 01:52:47,001 --> 01:52:49,000 Join me, 1778 01:52:49,225 --> 01:52:50,977 and I will compete your training. 1779 01:52:51,001 --> 01:52:53,000 And here is Darth Vader, 1780 01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:57,296 who had his dialogue, by the way, and he's speaking the dialogue. 1781 01:52:57,900 --> 01:52:59,977 He thinks it's being recorded, you see. 1782 01:53:00,001 --> 01:53:00,977 He's not being recorded. 1783 01:53:01,001 --> 01:53:03,977 What's being recorded is this, this, this. 1784 01:53:04,001 --> 01:53:06,126 He said, "You don't know the truth. 1785 01:53:06,150 --> 01:53:08,000 Obi-Wan killed your father. 1786 01:53:08,125 --> 01:53:11,126 " And then, of course, we re-recorded everything. 1787 01:53:11,150 --> 01:53:13,000 I'll never join you! 1788 01:53:13,225 --> 01:53:17,000 If you only knew the power of the dark side. 1789 01:53:17,900 --> 01:53:20,000 When I first saw the dialogue, 1790 01:53:20,175 --> 01:53:22,977 that said, "Luke, I am your father. 1791 01:53:23,001 --> 01:53:25,001 " I said himself, "He's lying. 1792 01:53:25,850 --> 01:53:27,000 1793 01:53:27,700 --> 01:53:30,476 And when are they going to play that lie out?" 1794 01:53:30,500 --> 01:53:33,977 Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father. 1795 01:53:34,001 --> 01:53:36,000 He told me enough. 1796 01:53:38,125 --> 01:53:39,977 He told me you killed him. 1797 01:53:40,001 --> 01:53:40,977 No. 1798 01:53:41,001 --> 01:53:44,000 I am your father. 1799 01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:47,977 And I screamed no, just as it was meant to be. 1800 01:53:48,001 --> 01:53:49,977 No! No! Join me. 1801 01:53:50,001 --> 01:53:58,977 Together, we can rule the galaxy as father and son. 1802 01:53:59,001 --> 01:54:12,000 I think that it went beyond stories. 1803 01:54:12,300 --> 01:54:14,977 You got to know the characters in your better room. 1804 01:54:15,001 --> 01:54:17,000 You had some humor. 1805 01:54:17,175 --> 01:54:20,977 I thought of the film as a second movement. 1806 01:54:21,001 --> 01:54:24,977 That's why I wanted some of the things slower. 1807 01:54:25,001 --> 01:54:31,977 And it ends in a way that you can't wait to see 1808 01:54:32,001 --> 01:54:35,977 to hear the Vauci, the next movie, the Allegreto. 1809 01:54:36,001 --> 01:54:39,000 I didn't have a climax at the end. 1810 01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,000 I had an emotional climax. 1811 01:54:42,250 --> 01:54:44,426 As Empire's premier date approached, 1812 01:54:44,450 --> 01:54:46,977 the producers once again held their collective breath. 1813 01:54:47,001 --> 01:55:04,000 When the Empire Strikes Back finally opened on May 21st 1980, 1814 01:55:04,450 --> 01:55:05,977 it didn't meet expectations. 1815 01:55:06,001 --> 01:55:06,977 It surpassed them. 1816 01:55:07,001 --> 01:55:11,977 Within three months, George Lucas had recovered his $33 million investment. 1817 01:55:12,001 --> 01:55:16,977 There was something about Empire that just immediately just clicked when I saw it. 1818 01:55:17,001 --> 01:55:19,076 I didn't know how all the romance was going to work 1819 01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:22,977 and the adventure and it was a too serious and all this sort of stuff. 1820 01:55:23,001 --> 01:55:24,977 But it really came together. 1821 01:55:25,001 --> 01:55:29,977 Intelligence Premier, cases of lightning striking twice were rare in Hollywood. 1822 01:55:30,001 --> 01:55:32,468 Sequels were almost always a letdown. 1823 01:55:32,500 --> 01:55:35,977 But in the Star Wars universe, different laws applied. 1824 01:55:36,001 --> 01:55:39,126 And George Lucas, the world's most successful independent 1825 01:55:39,150 --> 01:55:41,977 filmmaker, was fast becoming a law under himself. 1826 01:55:42,001 --> 01:55:45,000 In a radical move by Hollywood standards, 1827 01:55:45,100 --> 01:55:47,977 he shared Empire's profits with every one of his employees, 1828 01:55:48,001 --> 01:55:51,977 handing out over $5 million in bonuses in 1980. 1829 01:55:52,001 --> 01:55:54,977 The profits from the two Star Wars films 1830 01:55:55,001 --> 01:55:59,977 also helped fuel Lucas' rapidly expanding business enterprises. 1831 01:56:00,001 --> 01:56:03,326 We did have some money, but it was still a startup company. 1832 01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:06,476 We could have messed it up as much as we did it right. 1833 01:56:06,500 --> 01:56:07,977 But his ability to make successful movies 1834 01:56:08,001 --> 01:56:10,977 is what drove the financial success of the company. 1835 01:56:11,001 --> 01:56:13,977 But how we used those funds to grow the company 1836 01:56:14,001 --> 01:56:15,977 and why he's hasn't that worked the way he does. 1837 01:56:16,001 --> 01:56:20,289 He was smart enough to understand all the rights all the ancilaries. 1838 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:22,977 By financing the Empire Strikes Back 1839 01:56:23,001 --> 01:56:28,000 with his own money, George Lucas had bet the farm and won. 1840 01:56:28,700 --> 01:56:32,176 In fact, he was in a position to build his own kind of farm, 1841 01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:36,000 Skywalker Ranch, in Marin County, California. 1842 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:44,000 Lucas had long imagined a visually inspiring setting 1843 01:56:44,425 --> 01:56:47,977 where his employees could work in a creative atmosphere 1844 01:56:48,001 --> 01:56:51,126 and were friends like Steven Spielberg, Robert Redford, 1845 01:56:51,150 --> 01:56:56,000 and Francis Ford Coppola could enjoy working at a state of the art facility. 1846 01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:59,977 George was debating on two different parcels of land. 1847 01:57:00,001 --> 01:57:04,000 One was on Lucas Valley Broad. 1848 01:57:04,275 --> 01:57:07,219 I said, "Well, that's the one you have to pick. 1849 01:57:09,050 --> 01:57:17,000 " The company's structure supported multi-movies in poll areas, 1850 01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:20,000 merchandising special effects, ancilaries. 1851 01:57:20,150 --> 01:57:22,977 And so all the little companies had to be started 1852 01:57:23,001 --> 01:57:25,977 and operated and have all these systems put in place. 1853 01:57:26,001 --> 01:57:32,000 Lucas Arts, THX, Skywalker Sound, 1854 01:57:32,300 --> 01:57:35,977 Industrial Light and Magic, each subsidiary of 1855 01:57:36,001 --> 01:57:39,265 Lucasfilm would serve George Lucas' creative vision. 1856 01:57:39,350 --> 01:57:41,977 In turn, they revolutionised a film industry 1857 01:57:42,001 --> 01:57:44,977 that had for too long been played by complacency. 1858 01:57:45,001 --> 01:57:51,000 It was an idea of one person and successfully implemented. 1859 01:57:51,150 --> 01:57:54,977 George has wanted a more successful company in 1860 01:57:55,001 --> 01:57:56,977 the world and he can't measure it just by size 1861 01:57:57,001 --> 01:58:00,977 because he doesn't need the size of a fox or a one 1862 01:58:01,001 --> 01:58:05,977 to accomplish the same thing he's accomplishing putting out his films. 1863 01:58:06,001 --> 01:58:11,977 As the sole owner of the most successful franchise 1864 01:58:12,001 --> 01:58:14,977 in movie history, Lucas had gained the financial means 1865 01:58:15,001 --> 01:58:18,977 and the creative freedom to produce anything he wanted. 1866 01:58:19,001 --> 01:58:23,977 George's greatest strength as a filmmaker is that he's a great storyteller. 1867 01:58:24,001 --> 01:58:24,977 George has a vision. 1868 01:58:25,001 --> 01:58:29,161 There are filmmakers down through history like Capra and John Ford 1869 01:58:29,550 --> 01:58:32,151 and they made John Ford pictures and Frank Capra pictures 1870 01:58:32,175 --> 01:58:34,026 and they made Hitchcock-made Hitchcock films 1871 01:58:34,050 --> 01:58:36,977 and George Lucas makes George Lucas pictures. 1872 01:58:37,001 --> 01:58:42,977 George Lucas had helped turn the tide of Hollywood's 1873 01:58:43,001 --> 01:58:45,977 downbeat realism and brought back a sense of fantasy and wonder. 1874 01:58:46,001 --> 01:58:50,000 Movies were fun again. 1875 01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,000 But in the wake of Empire, 1876 01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:55,977 the filmmaker found himself unexpectedly mired in Hollywood politics. 1877 01:58:56,001 --> 01:59:00,977 To preserve the dramatic opening sequences of his films, 1878 01:59:01,001 --> 01:59:03,977 Lucas wanted the screen credits to come at the end of the movies. 1879 01:59:04,001 --> 01:59:07,000 It was a highly unusual choice. 1880 01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,226 And for the first Star Wars, 1881 01:59:09,250 --> 01:59:12,376 the writer's guild and director's guild had allowed it. 1882 01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,176 But when Lucas did the same for the sequel, 1883 01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,977 they find him over a quarter of a million dollars 1884 01:59:17,001 --> 01:59:19,977 and even attempted to pull Empire from theaters. 1885 01:59:20,001 --> 01:59:24,000 Next, the DGA went after Irvin Kirchner. 1886 01:59:24,225 --> 01:59:28,076 To protect his director, Lucas paid all the fines to the guilds 1887 01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:29,977 but the situation left him feeling frustrated and persecuted. 1888 01:59:30,001 --> 01:59:32,000 1889 01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:37,000 Lucas was so upset that he dropped out of the director's guild, 1890 01:59:37,850 --> 01:59:39,370 the writer's guild, 1891 01:59:39,550 --> 01:59:41,676 and the motion picture association. 1892 01:59:41,700 --> 01:59:46,000 Another unfortunate casualty in the wake of Empire 1893 01:59:46,250 --> 01:59:48,000 was Alan Ladd Jr. 1894 01:59:48,050 --> 01:59:50,977 Lucas' most vocal supporter at 20th century Fox. 1895 01:59:51,001 --> 01:59:55,000 The criticism over the deal is what 1896 01:59:55,850 --> 01:59:58,000 And in my tenure at Fox, really, 1897 01:59:58,300 --> 02:00:01,200 because people were very angry and irritated. 1898 02:00:02,150 --> 02:00:03,977 Even though they made millions of dollars off it 1899 02:00:04,001 --> 02:00:09,000 and had a big fight stopped out of the boardroom. 1900 02:00:10,950 --> 02:00:11,977 So that quit. 1901 02:00:12,001 --> 02:00:13,001 That was it. 1902 02:00:13,500 --> 02:00:18,000 20th century Fox ultimately paid a heavy price for Ladd's departure 1903 02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:21,126 with his longtime ally gone from the studio. 1904 02:00:21,150 --> 02:00:23,977 Lucas decided to go to Paramount with his latest movie idea 1905 02:00:24,001 --> 02:00:27,977 and action-adventure yarn called Raiders of the Lost Ark. 1906 02:00:28,001 --> 02:00:36,977 George Lucas had fought and won the battle to gain his independence as a filmmaker, 1907 02:00:37,001 --> 02:00:42,977 but the war between his rebel alliance and the Galactic Empire was far from over. 1908 02:00:43,001 --> 02:00:47,161 As he began production on the final chapter of his Star Wars saga, 1909 02:00:47,500 --> 02:00:52,426 he knew expectations among fans and critics would be greater than ever before. 1910 02:00:52,450 --> 02:00:55,000 The project was a high-stakes gamble, 1911 02:00:55,050 --> 02:00:58,442 with Lucas once again putting up every dollar himself. 1912 02:00:58,550 --> 02:01:03,501 Nothing about the film, not even the smallest detail, could be taken for granted. 1913 02:01:03,525 --> 02:01:09,000 George came to me and he said the title of episode 6 1914 02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:13,000 is Return of the Jedi. 1915 02:01:13,850 --> 02:01:17,000 And I said, "I think it's a weak title. 1916 02:01:17,250 --> 02:01:18,977 " And he came back one or two days later 1917 02:01:19,001 --> 02:01:22,977 and he says we're calling it Revenge of the Jedi. 1918 02:01:23,001 --> 02:01:26,073 Choosing the film's title was just the beginning. 1919 02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:31,226 Jedi would require thousands of production decisions on both sides of the globe. 1920 02:01:31,250 --> 02:01:35,000 We were constructing really in two places in California, 1921 02:01:35,150 --> 02:01:38,000 shooting at ILM, that's three. 1922 02:01:38,350 --> 02:01:40,977 And of course, working and shooting in London at the same time. 1923 02:01:41,001 --> 02:01:44,977 As Lucas discovered, independence was a double-edged sword, 1924 02:01:45,001 --> 02:01:46,977 putting the director's guild, made it impossible 1925 02:01:47,001 --> 02:01:51,000 for him to hire his first choice, Steven Spielberg. 1926 02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:53,977 Instead, Lucas chose Welshman Richard Markwand, 1927 02:01:54,001 --> 02:01:58,000 best known for the World War II thriller Eye of the Needle. 1928 02:01:58,650 --> 02:02:02,226 As the two met with Lawrence Castin to discuss Jedi script, 1929 02:02:02,250 --> 02:02:03,977 a key issue was whether Harrison Ford, 1930 02:02:04,001 --> 02:02:08,977 who was now equally famous for the role of Indiana Jones, would return as Han Solo. 1931 02:02:09,001 --> 02:02:13,977 The other actors after Star Wars had signed on to do 1932 02:02:14,001 --> 02:02:15,977 two more because I wanted to finish the whole thing. 1933 02:02:16,001 --> 02:02:16,977 I thought Han Solo did not. 1934 02:02:17,001 --> 02:02:18,026 He had the idea, well, why don't you kill him off? 1935 02:02:18,050 --> 02:02:18,977 Why don't you kill him off? 1936 02:02:19,001 --> 02:02:23,000 I thought Han Solo should die. 1937 02:02:23,250 --> 02:02:27,276 I thought he ought to sacrifice himself for the other two characters. 1938 02:02:27,300 --> 02:02:30,000 I also felt someone had to go. 1939 02:02:30,700 --> 02:02:34,000 You know, I felt someone had to die. 1940 02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:36,977 I said he's got no mama, he's got no papa. 1941 02:02:37,001 --> 02:02:38,226 He's got no future. 1942 02:02:38,250 --> 02:02:44,000 He has no story responsibilities at this point. 1943 02:02:44,150 --> 02:02:48,000 So it's allowing him to commit self-sacrifice. 1944 02:02:48,700 --> 02:02:52,977 And I thought it should have been very early in the last act 1945 02:02:53,001 --> 02:02:55,276 so that you would begin to worry about everybody. 1946 02:02:55,300 --> 02:02:57,233 We should sacrifice somebody. 1947 02:02:57,750 --> 02:03:00,000 And George was against him. 1948 02:03:00,500 --> 02:03:02,977 And George knew what he wanted and he got what he wanted. 1949 02:03:03,001 --> 02:03:04,977 Hey, it's me. 1950 02:03:05,001 --> 02:03:08,977 Once production began, Lucas was determined not 1951 02:03:09,001 --> 02:03:11,126 to let the budget escalate as it had on Empire. 1952 02:03:11,150 --> 02:03:12,150 Good luck. 1953 02:03:12,750 --> 02:03:13,977 You're going to need it. 1954 02:03:14,001 --> 02:03:16,977 It wasn't easy, given that the rest of the world assumed money was no object. 1955 02:03:17,001 --> 02:03:20,977 Anytime you would go in and try and negotiate for production 1956 02:03:21,001 --> 02:03:23,977 facilities or people would say, oh, well, 1957 02:03:24,001 --> 02:03:26,601 that'll cost $2 when it might normally cost $1. 1958 02:03:26,625 --> 02:03:28,977 So I had the suggestion that we changed the name of the picture. 1959 02:03:29,001 --> 02:03:32,977 It was called Blue Harvest and the subline behind it was horror beyond imagination. 1960 02:03:33,001 --> 02:03:34,977 Hey, camera. 1961 02:03:35,001 --> 02:03:38,076 The idea behind it was to come up with a title that would instill 1962 02:03:38,100 --> 02:03:41,226 absolutely no interest whatsoever in what you were doing. 1963 02:03:41,250 --> 02:03:43,977 It was like, well, what is Blue Harvest? 1964 02:03:44,001 --> 02:03:44,977 It's like, well, who cares? 1965 02:03:45,001 --> 02:03:50,000 It worked until Han and Luke and Leah showed up to come to work. 1966 02:03:50,250 --> 02:03:53,977 And everybody went, oh, I guess this really isn't Harvey on Imagination. 1967 02:03:54,001 --> 02:03:56,276 I guess this is really the next Star Wars movie. 1968 02:03:56,300 --> 02:03:58,977 Revenge of the Jedi would again reunite the Star Wars cast 1969 02:03:59,001 --> 02:04:02,977 and crew after six years and two record-breaking 1970 02:04:03,001 --> 02:04:05,977 motion pictures had formed a lasting bond. 1971 02:04:06,001 --> 02:04:12,000 We were with the same crew for all three films for the most part. 1972 02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:15,000 So it was, you know, a family. 1973 02:04:15,025 --> 02:04:21,000 I'm walking along by myself rehearsing, 1974 02:04:21,150 --> 02:04:26,014 getting something like Lando Calrissian never returned from this awful place. 1975 02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:26,977 And so on and so on. 1976 02:04:27,001 --> 02:04:30,977 Lando Calrissian and Portugal never returned from this awful place. 1977 02:04:31,001 --> 02:04:33,977 And suddenly I hear B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B. 1978 02:04:34,001 --> 02:04:38,977 And I turn around and George is, George is now crouched 1979 02:04:39,001 --> 02:04:41,977 behind me, waddling along, so on his home she is. 1980 02:04:42,001 --> 02:04:46,000 Going B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, it was a joyous moment. 1981 02:04:46,900 --> 02:04:49,977 Like it's predecessor, Jedi continued to expand 1982 02:04:50,001 --> 02:04:51,977 the cast of characters in the Star Wars saga. 1983 02:04:52,001 --> 02:04:56,000 Oh, what's that? 1984 02:04:56,625 --> 02:04:59,126 One of the biggest was Intergalactic Gangster. 1985 02:04:59,150 --> 02:05:00,977 I knew that last. 1986 02:05:01,001 --> 02:05:02,977 Job of the Hat. 1987 02:05:03,001 --> 02:05:06,977 George said, "Oh, I need something. 1988 02:05:07,001 --> 02:05:10,000 " That's, you know, alien and grotesque. 1989 02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:13,977 It's like, like, Sydney Green Street. 1990 02:05:14,001 --> 02:05:15,977 Oh, okay. 1991 02:05:16,001 --> 02:05:22,000 When I had kind of gotten this idea down to this big slug-like thing 1992 02:05:22,250 --> 02:05:24,977 that is just this big pulsating mass of flesh. 1993 02:05:25,001 --> 02:05:26,977 At one point I put, I put a head of FES on one 1994 02:05:27,001 --> 02:05:28,026 of the characters, like Sydney Green Street. 1995 02:05:28,050 --> 02:05:31,126 And then Stuart Freemorn in England, his job was to, you know, 1996 02:05:31,150 --> 02:05:32,977 fabricate the thing, and that was operated. 1997 02:05:33,001 --> 02:05:36,977 But one puppeteer for each arm, two puppeteers for the arms. 1998 02:05:37,001 --> 02:05:40,977 Another guy doing the head, another guy ready to control the guy doing the eyes. 1999 02:05:41,001 --> 02:05:44,126 There was like a couple little people in it, you know, pulling 2000 02:05:44,150 --> 02:05:45,977 things to make the tail and move around. 2001 02:05:46,001 --> 02:05:48,000 It was kind of a thing. 2002 02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,977 I had my little dwarf sitting in, so I had 2003 02:05:52,001 --> 02:05:53,977 a little seat made for him in the tail here. 2004 02:05:54,001 --> 02:05:55,977 And he operated it all. 2005 02:05:56,001 --> 02:05:58,977 And he was sitting there for quite a few days doing this. 2006 02:05:59,001 --> 02:06:02,000 And if he operated the first one, 2007 02:06:02,550 --> 02:06:06,000 it made, with every wave, he pulled it. 2008 02:06:06,125 --> 02:06:08,977 He would either lift it up his or sideways. 2009 02:06:09,001 --> 02:06:11,977 You see, so it could make that move in any direction. 2010 02:06:12,001 --> 02:06:12,977 And action. 2011 02:06:13,001 --> 02:06:22,000 At last, Master Luke's come to rescue me. 2012 02:06:22,275 --> 02:06:26,977 Now, Master Luke, I must be a lot to speak. 2013 02:06:27,001 --> 02:06:27,977 I must be a lot to speak. 2014 02:06:28,001 --> 02:06:28,977 And I must be a god. 2015 02:06:29,001 --> 02:06:30,977 No, I could. 2016 02:06:31,001 --> 02:06:32,977 Yeah, I must call. 2017 02:06:33,001 --> 02:06:36,000 Yeah, I must call. 2018 02:06:36,050 --> 02:06:37,977 This is too long. 2019 02:06:38,001 --> 02:06:38,977 This is too long. 2020 02:06:39,001 --> 02:06:40,977 I won't deny my name. 2021 02:06:41,001 --> 02:06:44,009 You will bring Captain Solo in the wookie to me. 2022 02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:12,977 Java has to pull the rug out from under Luke, 2023 02:07:13,001 --> 02:07:15,977 and he falls into the pit, and there's this big rank or pit monster. 2024 02:07:16,001 --> 02:07:27,000 George was really adamant that Luke were going to do it as a man in a suit. 2025 02:07:27,950 --> 02:07:31,000 It was going to be like a really cool Godzilla. 2026 02:07:31,025 --> 02:07:33,977 Tony McFae, one of the sculptors fabricated 2027 02:07:34,001 --> 02:07:38,000 this big rank or suit, and based on my design. 2028 02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:41,977 I call it kind of a cross between a bear and a potato. 2029 02:07:42,001 --> 02:07:46,977 It was just this big, dumb thing. 2030 02:07:47,001 --> 02:07:49,977 But it never looked that great no matter what we did. 2031 02:07:50,001 --> 02:07:55,000 So at some point, George, now let's do it some other way. 2032 02:07:55,350 --> 02:08:01,000 And so Dennis thought, well, let's try and do it as a high speed puppet. 2033 02:08:01,900 --> 02:08:04,001 We designed the skeleton for rank, 2034 02:08:04,025 --> 02:08:08,977 or Tom Sanderman and Dave Sussol, and I'm a puppeteer at the same time. 2035 02:08:13,001 --> 02:08:16,977 It was a crazy way of working, because this thing, 2036 02:08:17,001 --> 02:08:20,977 it has to walk into a room and turn around and roar. 2037 02:08:21,001 --> 02:08:24,977 And it's like a four-second shot, and you're shooting at 90 frames a second. 2038 02:08:25,001 --> 02:08:26,977 You've got a second to shoot it. 2039 02:08:34,001 --> 02:08:42,977 ILM's creatures might have been puppets, 2040 02:08:43,001 --> 02:08:46,977 but they could still elicit an emotional reaction from their human co-stars. 2041 02:08:47,001 --> 02:08:48,977 One even triggered a panic attack. 2042 02:08:51,001 --> 02:08:56,000 I got claustrophobia once, and it would-- I didn't even have the whole suit on. 2043 02:08:56,100 --> 02:08:57,176 I was lying on the floor. 2044 02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:58,977 The camera is about that far away from me. 2045 02:08:59,001 --> 02:09:04,000 A salacious crumb, the wonderful salacious crumb, animated by Tim Rose. 2046 02:09:05,001 --> 02:09:05,977 And he's pulling out my eye. 2047 02:09:08,001 --> 02:09:08,977 All right, take two. 2048 02:09:11,001 --> 02:09:13,001 And something went in my mind. 2049 02:09:13,150 --> 02:09:13,977 I didn't catch a breath or something. 2050 02:09:14,001 --> 02:09:17,977 And I suddenly could feel panic just absorbing into my body. 2051 02:09:20,300 --> 02:09:23,201 And I think, get me out, get me out, get me out, get me out. 2052 02:09:23,225 --> 02:09:27,977 And I just kept repeating it until they managed to whizz the head off. 2053 02:09:29,001 --> 02:09:31,977 Daniels may have lost his head as 3 p.o. 2054 02:09:33,001 --> 02:09:34,977 But when it came to risking life and limb. 2055 02:09:36,001 --> 02:09:38,977 The production now had a team of trained stunt professionals. 2056 02:09:46,001 --> 02:09:48,977 For the execution seen on Jabba's barge, stunt performers dropped in 2057 02:09:49,001 --> 02:09:51,977 on the most ravenous monster yet, the Sarlak. 2058 02:09:59,001 --> 02:10:02,977 It wasn't edited that way, but I was the first guy to come off the skiff. 2059 02:10:03,001 --> 02:10:03,977 Into the pit. 2060 02:10:06,001 --> 02:10:08,977 Because I had to make sure it would work and everybody's going to be all right. 2061 02:10:09,001 --> 02:10:10,977 But I had a lot of sand coming on top of it. 2062 02:10:11,001 --> 02:10:13,977 But I was able to say to the guys, if you go in, shut your eyes, 2063 02:10:14,001 --> 02:10:16,977 keep your butt closed, put some cotton wool up your nose. 2064 02:10:17,001 --> 02:10:19,026 Otherwise, you'd be sniffing up sand. 2065 02:10:19,050 --> 02:10:20,977 Those three people went in one off the other. 2066 02:10:21,001 --> 02:10:21,977 So it was one when they pulled him up. 2067 02:10:22,001 --> 02:10:24,201 The other one went in the building myself. 2068 02:10:24,225 --> 02:10:25,977 I mean, what was happening down below? 2069 02:10:26,001 --> 02:10:26,977 Comedy fell in the other zone. 2070 02:10:27,001 --> 02:10:28,977 I'm kind of a stick, yes. 2071 02:10:29,001 --> 02:10:30,977 But these are the public down soon. 2072 02:10:31,001 --> 02:10:33,977 Join. 2073 02:10:34,001 --> 02:10:34,977 Go ahead. 2074 02:10:38,001 --> 02:10:40,000 The baby, baby, take one. 2075 02:11:07,001 --> 02:11:11,977 Well, I was hanging on that rope with a hand solo and he was trying to save me. 2076 02:11:12,001 --> 02:11:14,576 One of the squids went right through my toe. 2077 02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:16,977 And I'm screaming to the end, they'll stop, stop. 2078 02:11:17,001 --> 02:11:18,977 He's so busy acting. 2079 02:11:20,100 --> 02:11:21,977 Yeah, I'm like, get him in the chain. 2080 02:11:22,001 --> 02:11:23,977 And all of a sudden, you realize that I got hurt. 2081 02:11:30,001 --> 02:11:30,977 I asked him, really. 2082 02:11:31,001 --> 02:11:31,977 He's one of those actors. 2083 02:11:32,001 --> 02:11:32,977 It gave his very intense. 2084 02:11:35,001 --> 02:11:37,026 He really gets into what he's doing. 2085 02:11:37,050 --> 02:11:38,977 So he was really into it. 2086 02:11:42,001 --> 02:11:45,297 For Carrie Fisher, getting into the role of Leia this time, 2087 02:11:45,321 --> 02:11:48,126 meant fitting into a skimpy slave girl costume. 2088 02:11:50,001 --> 02:11:52,257 I got to kill Jabba the Hutt. 2089 02:11:52,281 --> 02:11:55,801 But I was still much more concerned about the slave girl 2090 02:11:56,050 --> 02:11:58,977 out fitting what I was going to do about exercise. 2091 02:12:00,001 --> 02:12:01,457 Well, I'm say type two. 2092 02:12:01,481 --> 02:12:02,577 I am gay, cameras. 2093 02:12:02,601 --> 02:12:03,977 Good way, girl, I'm on my own. 2094 02:12:06,001 --> 02:12:11,617 And then George Lucas said, oh, instead of attacking Jabba from the front 2095 02:12:11,641 --> 02:12:13,537 and be getting angry with him and waking him, 2096 02:12:13,561 --> 02:12:15,577 I want Carrie Fisher to jump on his back. 2097 02:12:15,601 --> 02:12:17,897 And then she got the R.L. shoes on. 2098 02:12:17,921 --> 02:12:21,577 And it happened to be that my little fellow inside, it was only a fell of rubber. 2099 02:12:21,601 --> 02:12:23,937 And it went right into his head. 2100 02:12:23,961 --> 02:12:26,697 And he screamed his head all the way up to the start. 2101 02:12:26,721 --> 02:12:28,217 Hold it. 2102 02:12:28,241 --> 02:12:31,617 Before they could do the shot, again, 2103 02:12:31,641 --> 02:12:37,160 I had to build a little firm bit over the top of his head so she could get up. 2104 02:12:37,210 --> 02:12:38,377 Pick three, pick up. 2105 02:12:38,401 --> 02:12:39,417 I am beaten up. 2106 02:12:39,441 --> 02:12:40,817 My ground panic, go. 2107 02:12:40,841 --> 02:12:42,257 OK, that's right. 2108 02:12:54,841 --> 02:12:56,417 That was a great relief. 2109 02:12:56,441 --> 02:12:58,817 He was an unpleasant thing. 2110 02:12:58,841 --> 02:13:01,697 It was a mug in the corner of the mouth. 2111 02:13:01,721 --> 02:13:03,106 And I never really liked that. 2112 02:13:07,441 --> 02:13:08,697 Let's go, and don't get the joy. 2113 02:13:10,601 --> 02:13:23,537 For the veteran cast members, bringing something 2114 02:13:23,561 --> 02:13:26,257 fresh to their characters was often difficult. 2115 02:13:26,281 --> 02:13:28,617 Don't move. 2116 02:13:28,641 --> 02:13:30,377 I love you. 2117 02:13:30,401 --> 02:13:31,617 I know. 2118 02:13:31,641 --> 02:13:34,457 It's gone now. 2119 02:13:34,481 --> 02:13:37,137 Another challenge on the set was Richard MarkKwan's 2120 02:13:37,161 --> 02:13:40,177 relative inexperience with special effects. 2121 02:13:40,201 --> 02:13:47,897 It's a difficult thing to do, you know, work on the one hand with the special effects 2122 02:13:47,921 --> 02:13:56,137 and on the other hand with a storyline with actors and making those two things merry. 2123 02:13:56,161 --> 02:13:58,906 I hadn't realized that ultimately it's probably easier 2124 02:13:58,930 --> 02:14:01,377 for me to do these things and to farm them out 2125 02:14:01,401 --> 02:14:04,006 because it was even more complex than the last one. 2126 02:14:04,030 --> 02:14:06,817 I really did have to end up being there every day on the set 2127 02:14:06,841 --> 02:14:09,217 and working very closely with Richard and shooting second unit. 2128 02:14:09,241 --> 02:14:12,720 And there was really more work than I thought 2129 02:14:12,845 --> 02:14:13,977 it was going to be. 2130 02:14:14,001 --> 02:14:16,457 Under Lucas' supervision, the production 2131 02:14:16,481 --> 02:14:19,257 moved to the Redwood Forest of Northern California. 2132 02:14:19,281 --> 02:14:20,097 Be camera. 2133 02:14:20,121 --> 02:14:24,937 They are the photograph one of the film's most exhilarating action sequences. 2134 02:14:24,961 --> 02:14:25,737 Hey, wait. 2135 02:14:25,761 --> 02:14:26,777 The speeder by Chase. 2136 02:14:28,841 --> 02:14:30,017 Wait, Jan, they're fondly. 2137 02:14:30,041 --> 02:14:30,737 That is which. 2138 02:14:33,721 --> 02:14:38,697 I got the idea of using a steady can. 2139 02:14:38,721 --> 02:14:42,737 When we did a test in a local park here, 2140 02:14:42,761 --> 02:14:47,937 of walking through the woods on a path that we kind of disguised. 2141 02:14:47,961 --> 02:14:51,337 And he shot with a camera that shot one frame of film every second. 2142 02:14:51,361 --> 02:14:56,697 So when you projected back 24 frames a second, it's going 24 times faster. 2143 02:14:56,721 --> 02:14:59,266 And we figured he walked about five miles an hour. 2144 02:14:59,290 --> 02:15:01,976 It came in two about 100 miles an hour and it looked great. 2145 02:15:36,150 --> 02:15:39,600 Jan, I surprised audiences with its imaginative scope. 2146 02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:42,080 Both large and small. 2147 02:15:42,655 --> 02:15:45,577 It introduced a tiny but valiant new ally to the rebellion. 2148 02:15:45,601 --> 02:15:49,577 A race of pint-sized warriors known as Ewoks. 2149 02:15:49,601 --> 02:15:50,601 An action. 2150 02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:53,577 Hey, point that thing someplace else. 2151 02:15:55,601 --> 02:16:04,577 Joining the cast was Warwick Davis, 2152 02:16:04,601 --> 02:16:09,600 who was just a youngster at the time, but also a die-hard Star Wars fan. 2153 02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:11,577 I was an 11-year-old boy at school. 2154 02:16:11,601 --> 02:16:17,577 And my grandmother happened to hear a radio commercial on the London radio station. 2155 02:16:17,601 --> 02:16:20,673 And they were putting out a call for short people 2156 02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:23,600 to be in this new Star Wars movie. 2157 02:16:24,575 --> 02:16:27,577 I don't think anybody on the movie was quite as excited as I was. 2158 02:16:27,601 --> 02:16:31,889 Being an 11-year-old on the Star Wars set, there was no stopping me. 2159 02:16:32,250 --> 02:16:37,577 In the role of Wicked, Davis became the film's most prominently featured Ewoks. 2160 02:16:37,601 --> 02:16:40,737 But only after Kenny Baker was suddenly taken ill. 2161 02:16:41,450 --> 02:16:44,714 I had this scene with Carrie and the speed of bikes. 2162 02:16:44,900 --> 02:16:47,577 And California and the redwoods. 2163 02:16:47,601 --> 02:16:48,577 I know looking forward to this. 2164 02:16:48,601 --> 02:16:49,577 I thought, well, not Carrie's nice. 2165 02:16:49,601 --> 02:16:51,577 I like working with Carrie. 2166 02:16:51,601 --> 02:16:52,577 Come in the morning of the shoot. 2167 02:16:52,601 --> 02:16:57,600 Kenny was very ill and bad with what I believe was food poisoning. 2168 02:16:57,650 --> 02:17:01,577 I was seriously in pain. 2169 02:17:01,601 --> 02:17:04,577 And said, well, we've got to do it because we've got Carrie Fisher in. 2170 02:17:04,601 --> 02:17:07,600 We've got the scene that sets up. 2171 02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:09,600 So work took over. 2172 02:17:09,850 --> 02:17:11,577 72-8, take two. 2173 02:17:11,601 --> 02:17:12,577 I am beat camera. 2174 02:17:12,601 --> 02:17:13,641 Don't forget. 2175 02:17:13,700 --> 02:17:17,577 And they called me in to play the scene instead. 2176 02:17:17,601 --> 02:17:18,601 Action. 2177 02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:27,600 Cut it out! 2178 02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:31,600 I had a dog at the time. 2179 02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:34,726 And I remember whenever he would hear a strange noise, 2180 02:17:34,750 --> 02:17:37,676 he would tilt his head from side to side to look inquisitive. 2181 02:17:37,700 --> 02:17:42,600 And I took those kind of movements and used them in the character. 2182 02:17:42,700 --> 02:17:47,692 So whenever he sees something or hears a strange sound, he would tilt his head. 2183 02:17:48,350 --> 02:17:51,600 115 S-8-3, 8 camera mark. 2184 02:17:52,900 --> 02:17:54,577 What did he say he was? 2185 02:17:54,601 --> 02:17:55,961 He says look out. 2186 02:18:21,600 --> 02:18:23,577 I like you, Ox. 2187 02:18:23,601 --> 02:18:30,577 And I think they're in there to really show that you don't need technology. 2188 02:18:30,601 --> 02:18:35,600 You need the will and the belief to take you through anything. 2189 02:18:35,650 --> 02:18:39,600 And the fact that, you know, the ewoks were able 2190 02:18:39,700 --> 02:18:42,076 to defeat the empire and using ropes and rocks. 2191 02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:46,004 I think that said something about them as a race of creatures. 2192 02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:47,577 Why does it come again? 2193 02:18:47,601 --> 02:18:50,577 Doesn't matter how much machinery you've had. 2194 02:18:50,601 --> 02:18:58,577 If the will of the people of the storm, they will always win. 2195 02:18:58,601 --> 02:19:00,600 You failed your Highness. 2196 02:19:00,950 --> 02:19:02,600 I am a Jedi. 2197 02:19:02,900 --> 02:19:04,600 Like my father before me. 2198 02:19:04,850 --> 02:19:06,600 And action. 2199 02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:21,577 As filming on Revenge of the Jedi drew closer to completion, emotions ran high. 2200 02:19:21,601 --> 02:19:28,577 And same goodbye would be difficult. 2201 02:19:28,601 --> 02:19:36,577 Because we're finished in the third one, 2202 02:19:36,601 --> 02:19:39,188 we really have the sense of it was the end that 2203 02:19:39,212 --> 02:19:42,012 they're going to tie up all the loose ends. 2204 02:19:42,150 --> 02:19:47,600 There was a kind of clearing ear locker out at the end of the semester feel to it all. 2205 02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:51,101 So part of me was saying, "Oh, I'm so glad to put this behind me. 2206 02:19:51,125 --> 02:19:52,925 " And the other aspect was, 2207 02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:55,577 "Well, what about all the adventures that Luke could have?" 2208 02:19:55,601 --> 02:20:06,600 For the moment, George Lucas was totally focused on completing his epic trilogy. 2209 02:20:06,900 --> 02:20:10,726 He weighed every decision, including a change in Jedi's title 2210 02:20:10,750 --> 02:20:12,577 just weeks before it opened. 2211 02:20:12,601 --> 02:20:16,577 Just before it got to the theaters, George came back and he said, 2212 02:20:16,601 --> 02:20:19,600 "I want to go back to return of the Jedi. 2213 02:20:20,150 --> 02:20:25,600 " Now, the logic behind that was that Jedi does not take revenge. 2214 02:20:25,700 --> 02:20:31,577 Return of the Jedi opened on Wednesday, May 25, 1983, 2215 02:20:31,601 --> 02:20:35,600 exactly six years from the day that Star Wars made its debut. 2216 02:20:35,900 --> 02:20:39,600 On its first day, the film took in $6. 2217 02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:42,415 2 million, making it the biggest opening day box office 2218 02:20:42,439 --> 02:20:44,577 in history by nearly a million dollars. 2219 02:20:44,601 --> 02:20:53,600 But for George Lucas, completing the trilogy involved personal sacrifice, 2220 02:20:54,250 --> 02:20:57,600 the success of Jedi would be bittersweet at best. 2221 02:20:58,700 --> 02:21:00,585 The challenge is always trying to do something 2222 02:21:00,609 --> 02:21:03,251 that's all consuming with having a private life. 2223 02:21:03,275 --> 02:21:06,377 And I had made the decision after Star Wars 2224 02:21:06,401 --> 02:21:09,600 that I had certain goals in my private life. 2225 02:21:09,950 --> 02:21:12,126 One was to be independent of Hollywood. 2226 02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:13,577 The other one ultimately was to have a family. 2227 02:21:13,601 --> 02:21:16,577 They finished the return of the Jedi. 2228 02:21:16,601 --> 02:21:17,577 I figured that was the end of it for me. 2229 02:21:17,601 --> 02:21:20,676 I figured, "Well, I've done it. I finished my trilogy. 2230 02:21:20,700 --> 02:21:21,577 " This is what I started out to do. 2231 02:21:21,601 --> 02:21:25,577 This was determined to get finished and it was overwhelming and difficult. 2232 02:21:25,601 --> 02:21:27,577 But fate has a way of stepping in. 2233 02:21:27,601 --> 02:21:33,577 I ended up getting divorced right as the film Jedi was finished. 2234 02:21:33,601 --> 02:21:37,600 And I was left raised my daughter. 2235 02:21:41,900 --> 02:21:46,600 With the profits he made from the Star Wars movies and merchandise, 2236 02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,619 George Lucas was able to keep funding his dream of 2237 02:21:49,643 --> 02:21:52,826 pushing the boundaries of film and audio technology. 2238 02:21:52,850 --> 02:21:57,778 For the next two decades, he continued to create new and exciting innovations. 2239 02:21:57,950 --> 02:22:02,600 And in the process, he fundamentally changed filmmaking for the better. 2240 02:22:02,950 --> 02:22:06,019 In 1984, Lucasfilm revolutionized motion 2241 02:22:06,043 --> 02:22:09,600 picture editing with editroid and sound droid, 2242 02:22:09,850 --> 02:22:13,600 the world's first nonlinear digital editing systems. 2243 02:22:13,650 --> 02:22:16,688 For the first time, filmmakers could instantly access 2244 02:22:16,712 --> 02:22:19,848 any frame or audio track at the touch of a button. 2245 02:22:19,950 --> 02:22:24,577 In 1985, Lucasfilm's computer division invented the Pixar computer, 2246 02:22:24,601 --> 02:22:30,577 helping generate a new form of animation characterized by three-dimensional realism. 2247 02:22:30,601 --> 02:22:35,577 The division was later sold and became Pixar Animation Studios, 2248 02:22:35,601 --> 02:22:39,600 the creator of such instant classics as Toy Story. 2249 02:22:40,050 --> 02:22:42,577 The digital breakthroughs that Lucas himself had ushered in 2250 02:22:42,601 --> 02:22:46,600 would eventually lead him back full circle to Star Wars. 2251 02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:50,925 In 1993, after helping create ILM's groundbreaking 2252 02:22:50,949 --> 02:22:54,577 effects in Steven Spielberg's Jurassic Park, 2253 02:22:54,601 --> 02:23:00,600 Lucas concluded that digital technology had finally caught up to his original vision. 2254 02:23:00,725 --> 02:23:06,600 In 1997, he would revisit and perfect his galactic saga at last, 2255 02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:10,600 with the Star Wars trilogy Special Edition. 2256 02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:15,876 For an entire generation, people have experienced Star 2257 02:23:15,900 --> 02:23:20,600 Wars the only way it's been possible on the TV screen. 2258 02:23:20,750 --> 02:23:25,600 But if you've only seen it this way, you haven't seen it at all. 2259 02:23:26,600 --> 02:23:44,577 Things I couldn't afford to do at the time, things that I had to give up on, 2260 02:23:44,601 --> 02:23:48,626 because I just didn't have the time or money, or the power to do it. 2261 02:23:48,650 --> 02:23:54,577 I was able to go in, complete the phones the way I originally intended them to be, 2262 02:23:54,601 --> 02:23:57,577 and have it be pretty much the way I want them to be. 2263 02:23:57,601 --> 02:24:08,577 In 1999, 22 years after the original premiere, 2264 02:24:08,601 --> 02:24:12,600 Lucas introduced Episode 1, The Phantom Menace. 2265 02:24:13,275 --> 02:24:17,376 The film marked the beginning of another trilogy for a new generation. 2266 02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:21,577 It also allowed Lucas to continue his pioneering use of digital technology. 2267 02:24:21,601 --> 02:24:25,145 I'm finishing this for the love of Star Wars, I like 2268 02:24:25,169 --> 02:24:28,600 Star Wars, I want to see the whole thing finished. 2269 02:24:28,900 --> 02:24:32,376 For more than three decades, George Lucas's passion and 2270 02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:36,600 dedication to the Star Wars saga has brought its share of rewards. 2271 02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:41,577 But like the force itself, success also has its dark side. 2272 02:24:41,601 --> 02:24:44,542 What I was trying to do is stay independent 2273 02:24:44,566 --> 02:24:47,600 so I could make the movies I wanted to make. 2274 02:24:47,750 --> 02:24:50,207 But at the same time, I was sort of fighting 2275 02:24:50,231 --> 02:24:52,726 the corporate system, which I didn't like, 2276 02:24:52,750 --> 02:24:56,976 and I'm not happy with the fact that corporations have taken over the film industry, 2277 02:24:57,000 --> 02:24:59,876 but now I found myself being the head of a corporation. 2278 02:24:59,900 --> 02:25:03,646 So there's a certain irony there is that I have 2279 02:25:03,670 --> 02:25:07,577 become the very thing that I was trying to avoid, 2280 02:25:07,601 --> 02:25:11,577 which is basically what part of Star Wars is about. 2281 02:25:11,601 --> 02:25:17,199 That is Darth Vader, he becomes the very thing 2282 02:25:17,223 --> 02:25:22,600 that he's trying to protect himself against. 2283 02:25:23,100 --> 02:25:25,400 But at the same time, I feel good that I'm able 2284 02:25:25,424 --> 02:25:28,176 to make my movies the way I want them to be. 2285 02:25:28,200 --> 02:25:32,577 Well, George Lucas has remained true to his own vision. 2286 02:25:32,601 --> 02:25:36,577 It's been audiences everywhere who've reaped the rewards. 2287 02:25:36,601 --> 02:25:44,577 Ever since May 1977, when moviegoers first caught sight of that galaxy far, far away. 2288 02:25:44,601 --> 02:25:53,577 The themes the George is dealing with are so strong, so primordial. 2289 02:25:53,601 --> 02:25:56,577 The conflicts between children and their parents. 2290 02:25:56,601 --> 02:25:59,577 Luke Skywalker was George growing up. 2291 02:25:59,601 --> 02:26:04,577 George facing her conflict and the need to prove himself. 2292 02:26:04,601 --> 02:26:07,600 And he did, powerfully. 2293 02:26:07,675 --> 02:26:12,702 George was somehow able to pick the good guys and the bad 2294 02:26:12,726 --> 02:26:17,577 guys in mythology in a package that somehow touched us. 2295 02:26:17,601 --> 02:26:18,961 I don't know how. 2296 02:26:19,550 --> 02:26:21,676 I guess if you know how, everybody would be doing it. 2297 02:26:21,700 --> 02:26:24,600 Dude, I'll do not. There is no try. 2298 02:26:25,150 --> 02:26:27,935 I am so pleased to be a part of that whole legend, 2299 02:26:27,959 --> 02:26:30,577 even as an observer, and I am just an observer. 2300 02:26:30,601 --> 02:26:32,577 Most impressive. 2301 02:26:32,601 --> 02:26:35,577 He's created people at everyone in the world knows. 2302 02:26:35,601 --> 02:26:37,965 Any author that could create such memorable 2303 02:26:37,989 --> 02:26:40,626 characters would be a very happy person indeed. 2304 02:26:40,650 --> 02:26:42,577 Laughing up, Fuzzball. 2305 02:26:42,601 --> 02:26:45,577 He really established the independent film market. 2306 02:26:45,601 --> 02:26:48,577 His films changed epic productions. 2307 02:26:48,601 --> 02:26:50,577 He changed storytelling. 2308 02:26:50,601 --> 02:26:52,577 He created what Hollywood is today. 2309 02:26:52,601 --> 02:26:56,676 I'm out of it for a little while, everybody gets the conclusions and grandeur. 2310 02:26:56,700 --> 02:26:59,180 George was creating a new world for Hollywood, 2311 02:26:59,204 --> 02:27:01,577 and we were lucky enough to be a part of it. 2312 02:27:01,601 --> 02:27:03,577 Come on! 2313 02:27:03,601 --> 02:27:07,577 He's not just the creator and director, now he is the studio. 2314 02:27:07,601 --> 02:27:11,577 He can make exactly the movie that he wants to make. 2315 02:27:11,601 --> 02:27:14,600 We'll be one as taught you well. 2316 02:27:14,700 --> 02:27:19,534 One of the things that George Lucas has done in Star Wars is to communicate, in 2317 02:27:19,558 --> 02:27:24,577 fact, with the younger self that resides somewhere inside, even the oldest person. 2318 02:27:24,601 --> 02:27:33,385 I think our cultural imagination has been transformed by Lucas's films, by taking us back to stories 2319 02:27:33,409 --> 02:27:41,600 that make us all feel that we share in the heroic journey of the human species on this earth. 2320 02:27:42,200 --> 02:27:44,600 The Force will be with you always. 2321 02:27:45,700 --> 02:27:50,626 George Lucas moved us into a new place and space, a new time, 2322 02:27:50,650 --> 02:27:55,600 in the future, which no one else had created up to that time. 2323 02:27:55,850 --> 02:28:00,201 Star Wars had a tremendous impact on the young 2324 02:28:00,225 --> 02:28:04,577 people, as well as the adults for that matter. 2325 02:28:04,601 --> 02:28:07,577 I've committed myself to making these movies. 2326 02:28:07,601 --> 02:28:08,976 I believe in these movies. 2327 02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:12,156 I think they're very entertaining, and I think that if I can get a 2328 02:28:12,180 --> 02:28:15,776 room full of people and enjoy it, then I've done whatever I hope to do. 2329 02:28:15,800 --> 02:28:20,906 For George Lucas, what began as a quest for creative freedom became 2330 02:28:20,930 --> 02:28:25,577 a philosophy, a cultural phenomenon, and an empire of dreams. 209873

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