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The MDS is one of the most iconic
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ultra races in the world.
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It's the one race that a lot of
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multi-day ultramarathons base themselves on.
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The margins are so small,
on whether you finish or don't.
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It's renowned as the hardest foot race on earth.
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There is always the risk
that something could happen.
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You have to make sure
everything is in place, just in case.
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Every part of me wants to stop
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and I can't cool down.
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There's one goal
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and it's to get from A to B, as quickly as possible.
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And ideally not die halfway through it.
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One simple mistake here, your race is over.
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Everything's about extremities.
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One of the major systems for me,
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is this all or nothing approach.
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Basically, the more I mess myself up,
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the longer I feel better.
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I did it!
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No you didn't.
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Arthur, you want the first one?
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Yeah.
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Do you like making your pancakes?
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I do, I like making pancakes.
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So, I've known Simon for,
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probably, nearly five years.
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I found out he was into running,
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probably within the first five minutes
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of my interview with him.
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It was quite clear from first meeting him
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that he's all or nothing.
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You know, he's all in, basically, with everything.
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After knowing Simon, he does have those, kind of,
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attributes, whereby, if he wants something,
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he will go out and get it.
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So I first met Simon in Peru, on our jungle ultra.
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I think it was his first multi-day, at the time.
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So it was a big step up for him.
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He started off as a client and he's become
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a really good friend of mine over the years.
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My name's Simon Blair, I'm a business owner.
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I was diagnosed with a ADHD, middle of last year.
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It's been a journey since then.
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But I've got three children and I'm an ultra runner.
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So the Marathon des Sables is the one in the desert.
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Oh.
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I don't want you to do that.
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Why don't you want me to do that?
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Because you're gonna be gone for, like, ever.
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I'm gonna be gone forever?
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Yeah.
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Taking forever.
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Actually, daddy probably doesn't know, when he's away,
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what do we do when we come home from school
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and before we leave?
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What do we do on the computer?
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We look where you are.
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We track where you are.
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So you look at where my little dot is moving.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And panic when it hasn't moved.
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Or it's in the wrong place.
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I don't think he's gonna make it to the finish line.
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He can make it close.
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Why do you not think that daddy's gonna make it?
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He didn't make the last one.
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'Cause you didn't make the last one.
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I think what Flo is trying to say,
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is, that she thinks you will make it
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but if you don't, that that's okay too.
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Is that right Flora?
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Yeah, definitely.
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In 2021, post-pandemic,
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I went and tried to complete the Marathon des Sables.
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But I think, with some honesty,
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I probably wasn't quite mentally match fit.
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I think it's taken me this long to build myself up
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to a point where I feel mentally resilient enough
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to go back to the scene of the original crime.
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There's always a danger in terms of doing these
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kind of things.
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As his family's concerned,
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I would've thought that Faye
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the most, sort of, issues over it.
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A big concern for me, is,
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Simon being filmed while doing this.
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It's like an extra pressure.
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And when he starts his run, we have no contact at all.
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It is just relying on the tracker to see where he is.
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I am not settled until he is past that finish line
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and then I'm like, fine.
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I worry.
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The children miss him.
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I think when people think
about deserts, they think about,
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you know, rolling sand dunes and sandstorms.
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Some things are far more
terrifying than sandstorms
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and rolling sand dunes.
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Nothingness is more scary than that.
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People with Simon's personality type,
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with Simon's brain, need this.
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They need this in their life, to be able to function
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and to be the best version of themselves.
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To keep pushing and keep succeeding.
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About five or six years ago, I took on therapy.
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I woke up one day and I just didn't feel great.
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I, you know, had that brain fog
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and that veil of, just a shade over my normal lens,
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you know, my positive lens.
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And I, you know, I went and sought therapy
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and some advice, straight away.
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For me, it's been the best thing
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that I've ever done, really, for myself.
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So Simon's diagnosis came about
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because I'd been doing a
lot of mental health education
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with his team.
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So he'd got to know and trust me.
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He recognized that he can be
quite impulsive and energetic
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and that's been a real strength at work.
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But at times it meant that he was distracted
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or struggled to focus or other people would say,
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you know, "You're not paying attention.
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You forget details and things, you know".
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It's hard sometimes to be
all over the detail of things.
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But her opening up that discussion, for me,
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led to me getting tested.
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Not surprisingly, it came back fairly clear.
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I think it was both a shock and not a shock, really.
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I think he was relieved, actually.
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I think he knew.
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I think it was just having a label,
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so he could say, right, now I understand.
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I think ADHD has been a part of my character
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for as long as my memories go back.
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It's only just recently that I've realized
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how central to my being that that is.
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Yeah, I think it made sense of a lot of things for him.
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The results have been around
the idea of understanding.
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There aren't solutions.
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There's no solutions.
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I think, you know, taking drugs
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to try and help certain
byproducts of ADHD, is an option.
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I haven't explored that.
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For me, it's given me a much
greater understanding about
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who I am.
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It's just confirmed something that I probably,
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subconsciously already knew.
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And now I'm embracing
that, as like a central principle
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to what I am.
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It's interesting to think, why would Simon,
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who's really successful at work,
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want to punish himself out in the desert?
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But, my understanding, just as a spectator,
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you know, these ultramarathons,
is, it's a real chance to,
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kind of, almost take yourself right to the edge.
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To find out what you're capable of.
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To really find out where,
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you know, failure lies.
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And that's very healthy for the ego.
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It's really good for the ego to be tested in that way.
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Search for balance is now become what
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I'm aspiring to try and find and retain.
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But, I can't, a lot of the time
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because it's just not natural for that to happen.
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So the extremities of what
ADHD can do to you mentally,
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is that it pulls you one way or the other,
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just in the most fierce ways.
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He's always gonna be a driven guy
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and this is just a vessel to keep that drive going.
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Part of me dreads this event.
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Looking down those long straits
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and visualizing the sand dunes and
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just the memories of the overwhelming heat.
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He was facing, probably one of the hottest years
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that race has ever had.
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It was a flip of a coin,
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as to whether he was going to finish.
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In any race, in extreme heat.
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There's a few things that
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The Sahara Desert, the Namib Desert,
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can often go, 45, 50 degree heat.
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With that comes real risk of death
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by, heat stroke, dehydration.
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And it can happen extremely quickly.
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I had the unfortunate experience of
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running next to this guy,
running almost parallel to him,
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when he was collapsing repeatedly.
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I went to help him.
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There were some other people there who were doctors.
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10, 15 minutes later, I saw
a helicopter fly over my head.
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There was a very solemn, somber
announcement that evening.
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It was announced he'd died,
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as a result of being on the course.
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I was messaging the company,
going, "Is Simon Blair okay?
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I'm Simon Blair's wife".
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I hadn't heard anything.
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It was playing on my mind a great deal.
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'Cause I was already extremely tired
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and I had nothing left to give,
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without taking some serious risks.
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And I decided that the best thing for me,
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would be to go home.
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When he rang me and said,
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"I'm not gonna carry on", I burst into tears
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'cause I knew what he would be like if he didn't do it.
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I'd never seen him like that,
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after he got back from the MDS with that failure.
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I'd never seen that Simon before.
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That was unusual to witness, as a friend.
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As a family, we kept saying
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how proud we were of him, regardless.
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But, after the Marathon des
Sables, he was really quite low.
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Anyone with ADHD, which I also have, will know that,
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you know, that we've all got this, kind of, fixation
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on certain things and obsessions.
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And, you know, running in
ultramarathon's are one of his.
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And, I think, him actually pulling out,
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is probably braver than continuing.
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So I think, actually, full credit to him for going,
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do you know what, this is getting dangerous,
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now I'm gonna pull it.
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I suppose, I was actually proud that he stopped.
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Because, although I wanted him to continue,
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I mean, that would've been
really dangerous and very stupid.
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The whole process is quite long
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and, you know, all the measuring out of
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various powders and potions.
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And then you see it in this form
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and you're, kind of, like, yeah, okay.
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We're kind of, one step closer to being ready to go
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with day one.
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A lot of sweets.
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Lots of sweets, yes, day one, day two, day three,
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day four, day five and day six.
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And a little medical stuff.
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Just in case you get hurt.
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Just in case you get hurt, yes.
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The first bit really is the, it's the logistics.
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You hear stories and jokes about people
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cutting their toothbrush in half.
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But people do.
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Because it saves you a few grams.
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It's a huge commitment.
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Oh, yes, that's perfect.
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There's a lot of planning
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that goes into the successful completion of a race.
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People with ADHD are often great in a crisis
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but not so good in something
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that needs a lot of preparation.
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I've got a lost box.
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Memory.
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You know, memory and retention,
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forgetting where I put things.
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I often forget my children's birthdays.
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I just don't remember.
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The memory issues around ADHD are brutal.
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A surprising number of
people find themselves getting
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an ADHD diagnosis.
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They've actually gone to the GP saying,
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I think I might have dementia.
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Yeah, memory issues are really common.
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I think, also, he's got so much going on in his head.
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He goes from one thing to another.
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So trying to, kind of, keep up with him
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and keep him focused on what he's doing,
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at one thing at a time, well, it's quite hard.
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The biggest problem he'll have,
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is that he's turning his world upside down
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to get this done.
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He's extremely messy.
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Being CEO of a company
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and you're running an ultramarathon,
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they are not two things, they easily combine.
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A lot of people with ADHD,
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they've put in, sometimes, knowingly,
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sometimes, unknowingly,
scaffolding and strategies
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that have them doing well.
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He has got very good at writing, like,
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a spreadsheet, that he follows.
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So he will send me that spreadsheet
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and we just have to tick it off.
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If you don't put it in place,
with real knowledge of self,
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it's too finely balanced, not to fail.
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To get ready for any of these things, sacrifices a lot.
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And the support network around Simon
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is also gonna feel it.
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His work colleagues, his
family, it's all encompassing
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and, kind of, just consumes your life.
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In the run up to these events, you know,
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I'm running and focusing on other things
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and my emotional and physical
time just isn't as present.
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One of the downsides of ADHD is that it can make you
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so intent on getting to your objective,
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that actually, it can be
difficult for people around that.
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When you're fully hyper-focused.
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There's a lot of problems
that Simon will face, with ADHD.
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But actually, when preparing
for these sorts of events,
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there are a lot of things that could fall in his favor.
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The focus and the obsession with something,
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is definitely gonna help him.
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It's definitely helped him in the past.
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When you have three children and then, holidays,
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when they're not at school, it's quite hard.
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So, I think, actually, to start with, I was a bit like,
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well, it's a bit of a desperate measure
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to take a break from your family.
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I'm not sure that I would be able to do these events
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on a number of different levels,
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if I wasn't supported in the way that I am at home.
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You know, I'm very fortunate in that way.
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And my children, you know, have learned from Faye.
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I think Faye acknowledges that I'm a better person.
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I'm not made to feel guilty for needing to do this.
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I think back to my 20s and I
wonder how the fucking hell
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I held any relationship down, to be honest, you know
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'cause you're just like,
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it's so disruptive.
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Now he's done a number of them,
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it's a bit medicinal, really, I think.
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I'm gonna have to dig deep, you know,
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I'm aware of that, you know.
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I think, running, in its nature, is quite simplistic.
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In Simon's case,
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I think it definitely brings order to the chaos.
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He's got quite a lotta chaos in his world, in his mind.
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Even narrowing down the task list for the day,
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get from point A to B,
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can definitely just calm the noise a little bit.
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Thank you very much.
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All you've got to do, for seven days,
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eat, sleep and run.
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What an existence.
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One, two.
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I mean, for me it just sounds treacherous, to be honest.
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So, I can't imagine why he wants to go out and do this.
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People fall very ill and
sometimes die on these things.
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My brain was bouncing around a bit last night.
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I think I'll feel some sense of anxiety,
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probably, when I see a sand dune,
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even if it's two meters high,
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it'll probably make me feel a bit peculiar.
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Probably not how I felt at
the beginning of the last one.
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It was good.
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He won't think this now
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but if he doesn't finish, he'll also be okay with it.
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I think he's actually at a
point in his journey with this,
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where, the result is one thing
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but he's realized the journey is important
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or he will, quite quickly after.
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I think he's putting a lotta pressure on himself.
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Unnecessary pressure.
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I think sometimes the bravest
thing, is to know your limits.
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And I just hope that he does know his limits,
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this time around.
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He's physically stronger but mentally stronger too.
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I think he will be good.
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He'll do well.
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He better do it, gosh.
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So that gives me anxiety.
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That thing.
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It is a sand dune but, it's not a mountain.
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Thing is, it's probably what I thought about a lot.
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It's a strange feeling 'cause it's almost dreamlike.
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Everybody has a different, sort of, mindset to things.
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Some people allow adversity,
previously in their lives,
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to affect the decisions that you make going forward.
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And some people use that as a position,
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in order to turn that into a positive.
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I have my own objectives
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because I'm looking to discover myself.
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I wanna understand me and what makes me tick
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and how I operate.
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But actually, it's becoming far more than that.
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I want to help people open up a dialogue.
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ADHD should be looked at as something
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that can enable people to
provide positivity to the world.
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Not blocking them off and not listening to them
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because they don't hit a certain criteria
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that we've become used to.
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You know, that results in the worst things.
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It's getting gradually hotter.
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So I'm trying to be really sensible, not gun it,
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probably get halfway through tomorrow
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and then start thinking about taking some paresis,
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while we're trying to be careful with it, with water.
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I've been in this game now for two decades.
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I've either been running, coaching
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or designing these races.
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So I've got to see a lot of
people take these journeys on.
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Simon is definitely one of those people
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that enjoys the highs and the lows.
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He wants to be rock bottom.
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He wants to be in that pain cave, that misery,
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that thing that's gonna ultimately push him
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to the absolute limit.
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Because he knows and he's experienced it in the past,
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that with this low, will become a real high.
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The bigger the low, the higher the high.
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And it impacts him in a way
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that has been ultimately life-changing for him.
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I think there needs to be a lot more information
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about ADHD and what it is and what it isn't.
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I think some people have a
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very stereotypical view of somebody with ADHD.
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And they think they might
be that loud person at school
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or that person that sits and fidgets all day.
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But there are different
versions of it for different people
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and people will adapt differently.
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Predominantly hyperactive is only 15%
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of people with ADHD.
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It's a significant proportion of women and girls.
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And so the idea that it's just a boy
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running around, is just wrong.
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People often ask me what ADHD is.
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And it's one of the ways in which people
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can be neurodivergent.
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So, neurodiversity means,
basically, brain-based difference.
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And it means that you experience the world
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in a different way.
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How you feel about the world,
how you think about the world.
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So it's really common.
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And ADHD's about one in 20 adults.
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I have done the Marathon des Sables in 2019 and 2022.
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I have ADHD.
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I tried to explain it to people by saying,
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it's like when you have your laptop open,
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for most, you know, kind of, typical thinkers,
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if they have too many windows
open, it drives them crazy.
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I always have that many windows open.
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You can get very charged up or very drained,
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I think, just a bit more easier than others.
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And it's difficult to prioritize, sometimes.
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I think it's really important, as society,
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to understand that there isn't one-size-fits-all,
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with any condition.
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There are general symptoms,
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some may be positive, some may be negative.
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But how a person generally handles it, is up to them.
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We're all unique individuals, plus ADHD.
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The event is so vast and so big, it's a bit crazy.
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So, I'm on a journey to try and control the chaos
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and stop the noise in my brain.
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And, it's not quite like that here.
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Whatever that means.
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This isn't just a holiday to
me, this is a necessary part
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of my own life journey.
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If I don't do these things,
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I will not perform at the highest level.
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I'm always aspiring to try and be as good as I can be.
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I mean, if I start with the guys in my tent,
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I might stick with them or track them a bit.
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But I'm gonna run, kinda, just getting through it,
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I quite like my own time.
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I think he would hold his hands up and say that he
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struggles with his mental health
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and actually, running, is one of the things that helps.
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Feel pretty positive.
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Just gotta tick through the miles.
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In the case of ultra running,
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the running itself is the therapy.
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Such an odd thing to try and explain to people,
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that actually, when you talk
about running ultramarathons,
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especially multi-stage ultramarathons, people are,
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kind of, intimidated by the scale of them.
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But, perhaps they're looking at it in the wrong way
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or not looking at it through my eyes.
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Coming here, it's like a complete swap
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of mental capabilities and responsibilities.
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People that hear that I've done this race say,
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"Oh, wow, you really like to punish yourself, don't you?"
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And it's a form of judgment, where,
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I certainly don't view it as punishment,
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I view it as push, especially when you have ADHD.
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If you push yourself to extreme limits,
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it is actually recharging the batteries
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and you go back, saying, there
was an enormous challenge
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and I did that, I am capable.
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I think people with ADHD really feel that even more
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than a typical thinker.
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So slow going.
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Kind of just concentrating on
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getting in other people's steps.
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Wow, that's cool.
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Shit.
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Yeah, pretty cool.
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All right, enough of that.
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This will be here in a million years,
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so I can come back.
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I think the uphills broke my legs in, actually.
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I didn't really enjoy that bit but, then suddenly,
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running on sand felt a lot easier.
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He potentially uses ultramarathons
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as a way to keep him in training.
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You know, training and getting out and exercising,
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is basically medicine.
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And it is what keeps you, kind of, focused,
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your endorphins above, you know, ultimately,
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it's a dopamine deficiency problem, right.
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And exercise raises that dopamine level.
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I think it's almost a bit of an addiction, probably,
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on his part, in terms of the fact that he needs to do it.
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And, it's to say, I've got this
ultramarathon in the diary
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and kinda use it as a bit of a way to
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manage his day-to-day life, really.
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Last 15K's been hard.
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It's all right, my feet need a little bit of attention
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but I really am okay.
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I will put 150% and more,
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leave nothing on the table, whatsoever.
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I don't think that's always healthy.
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When it's over, this brain fog, kind of, ensues.
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At the time that you're going through these
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periods of brain fog, it seems to be
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00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,723
after periods of extreme hyperfocus.
519
00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:54,528
You just run out of energy.
520
00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:57,948
It's almost like your mind is trying to get some rest.
521
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:59,718
It's extremely frustrating.
522
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,948
And it's like a form of depression, probably.
523
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:07,758
But without it taking you down those roads.
524
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,258
One of the reasons I love ultra running,
525
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:10,998
is it gives me a chance to go away
526
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,978
and turn off from all these things.
527
00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:17,058
And when I come back, the brain fog has lifted
528
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,628
and actually, I have then
complete clarity of thinking
529
00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:22,428
and it's just complete peace
530
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:24,378
and straight line decision-making.
531
00:25:24,420 --> 00:25:25,653
It all makes sense.
532
00:25:27,090 --> 00:25:28,658
Exercise is often talked
about as a treatment for ADHD
533
00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:31,398
and there's a really good evidence base for it.
534
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,508
It's also used as a treatment
535
00:25:32,550 --> 00:25:34,188
for other things, like, depression.
536
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:35,748
And the reason it's good for the brain,
537
00:25:35,790 --> 00:25:37,218
the reason, particularly with ADHD,
538
00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:38,298
exercise is good for the brain,
539
00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:40,368
is that it increases noradrenaline and dopamine.
540
00:25:40,410 --> 00:25:42,198
And those are low.
541
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,808
There are low levels of those
in people's brains, with ADHD.
542
00:25:44,850 --> 00:25:46,278
It increases levels of those chemicals
543
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,815
in about five minutes,
544
00:25:47,857 --> 00:25:50,328
which is quicker than any medicine can work.
545
00:25:50,370 --> 00:25:53,284
So it's something a lot of people use, to help focus.
546
00:25:56,328 --> 00:25:57,288
Yeah, it was all right.
547
00:25:57,330 --> 00:25:58,218
I'm glad it's over.
548
00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:00,198
Those second days are awful.
549
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,588
I think from the last experience that I had with MDS,
550
00:26:03,630 --> 00:26:06,468
I've learned how to treat myself.
551
00:26:06,510 --> 00:26:07,698
So, like, if I feel tired,
552
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,768
I'm happy to go and have a rest for five minutes.
553
00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:11,478
Previously, I'd just run through exhaustion
554
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,708
and then I would've collapsed,
555
00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:15,738
I mean, I'd be in a heap but I'm in a controlled heap.
556
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:17,568
I'm just tired and resting.
557
00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:20,160
Whereas, I'm not delirious today.
558
00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:26,418
Of course, I want the challenge.
559
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:29,268
But actually, there's a big part of my mindset
560
00:26:29,310 --> 00:26:31,578
that's looking forward to giving my brain
561
00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:32,898
a bit of a holiday.
562
00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:36,978
And I can just relax on the
most basic of things, you know,
563
00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:39,048
by getting to a tree or getting to a corner
564
00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:41,440
or, you know, just getting to the end of a day.
565
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,148
It puts everything into context.
566
00:26:44,190 --> 00:26:47,658
Seeing a desert and, you know, just things
567
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,968
in a complete natural space,
568
00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:54,168
without any interferences from us, whatsoever.
569
00:26:54,210 --> 00:26:56,118
That to me, is peaceful.
570
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,248
That brings peace to the noise
571
00:26:58,290 --> 00:27:00,731
that sometimes comes into my brain, I think.
572
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,708
There is an additional challenge with his ADHD.
573
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:09,768
Where he's gonna have to
really focus on some certain areas
574
00:27:09,810 --> 00:27:11,088
to be successful.
575
00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:13,680
He's gonna have to quieten that noise, quite a lot.
576
00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:17,778
Today is a long stage.
577
00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:19,398
We're starting at six,
578
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,275
run for about three quarters an hour, in the dark.
579
00:27:22,317 --> 00:27:25,443
But it's quite a slog, to do 85 kilometers.
580
00:27:30,103 --> 00:27:32,893
Just so much depends on how tough the first
581
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:35,808
three or four hours are.
582
00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:38,250
Yeah, I'm just not sure what we're gonna do yet.
583
00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:48,858
The long stage is a pretty huge moment.
584
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,778
Once you've cracked it, you know,
585
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:53,448
you've done something, you're well over halfway.
586
00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:55,308
So I'm just gonna take today really slow and steady,
587
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:58,458
just tick off the kilometers and the checkpoints
588
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:00,708
and see how I sit by two o'clock,
589
00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:02,682
then make a decision about whether I'm gonna stay
590
00:28:02,724 --> 00:28:07,398
at a checkpoint for three
hours while the sun settles down
591
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,231
and then go again.
592
00:28:08,273 --> 00:28:09,498
Or if I feel good, I'll go.
593
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:12,198
Yeah, last time I didn't do the long stage
594
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,333
'cause the long stage was on the fourth day.
595
00:28:15,270 --> 00:28:16,098
Simon.
596
00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:17,478
Yeah.
597
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,915
Yeah.
598
00:28:21,206 --> 00:28:22,412
Oh he's the joker.
599
00:28:22,454 --> 00:28:23,770
You're a joker.
600
00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:26,675
I didn't get to do the long stage
601
00:28:26,717 --> 00:28:29,235
'cause I pulled out on the morning of day four.
602
00:28:29,277 --> 00:28:31,698
And I feel intimidated by it
603
00:28:31,740 --> 00:28:34,908
but, I'm just gonna clock it off, you know,
604
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:36,588
checkpoint by checkpoint.
605
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:39,285
And have a good look at two o'clock and see how I stand.
606
00:28:39,327 --> 00:28:44,191
Oh, the distance today is, 85.3 kilometers.
607
00:28:47,181 --> 00:28:48,438
The long stage is gonna be hard for them
608
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,908
to tap into flow states.
609
00:28:49,950 --> 00:28:52,278
All of the other runners around them,
610
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,238
intense hunger, intense thirst, which only grows.
611
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,478
It will be so hard to get into the zone and stay in it
612
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,158
and not be distracted by your sore feet.
613
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,888
Your 15 blisters, the hot desert sun.
614
00:29:03,930 --> 00:29:05,988
There's some parts of this where Simon's brain
615
00:29:06,030 --> 00:29:10,128
will consume knowledge at a
rate, faster than anyone else.
616
00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:11,778
But at the same time, when it comes to the race
617
00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:13,878
and it comes to the time where it gets difficult,
618
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,218
one simple mistake here, your race is over.
619
00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:17,868
Not drinking water on time,
620
00:29:17,910 --> 00:29:20,700
not look after a small blister, your race can be done.
621
00:30:28,384 --> 00:30:31,301
Woo, that was amazing, going down
622
00:30:33,307 --> 00:30:36,521
That hill was weirdly, quite enjoyable.
623
00:30:36,563 --> 00:30:39,228
But I'm just gonna really try and stay within myself.
624
00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:40,338
Don't overdo it.
625
00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:42,967
It's dangerous to go too quick.
626
00:31:27,196 --> 00:31:27,987
Yeah, it's getting hot now.
627
00:31:29,395 --> 00:31:31,444
Hard work, getting over the brinks.
628
00:31:45,270 --> 00:31:46,501
It's just amazing.
629
00:31:46,543 --> 00:31:49,428
As tiny as it is, you kinda, almost, like,
630
00:31:49,470 --> 00:31:53,173
compartmentalize it 'cause it's just so beautiful.
631
00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:01,553
It's getting warmer, it feels hotter than yesterday.
632
00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:04,698
Those long straights are gonna be the issue
633
00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:07,008
because I imagine there's
gonna be quite a lot of those.
634
00:32:07,050 --> 00:32:09,423
The actual gains from running in the heat,
635
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,328
the peak of the day, on a day like today, are just zero.
636
00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:15,161
I just don't see any benefit.
637
00:32:15,203 --> 00:32:19,248
I've felt, in reasonable spirits up until now.
638
00:32:19,290 --> 00:32:21,378
These flats, like the one we're about to do,
639
00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:23,418
the ones that cause me damage.
640
00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:27,543
So, the next two stages will be quite big for me.
641
00:32:30,060 --> 00:32:33,378
I'm sure I'll revisit some old demons.
642
00:32:33,420 --> 00:32:35,898
A lot of the focus is on the extreme temperatures,
643
00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:37,368
with these things.
644
00:32:37,410 --> 00:32:40,038
But people forget that
they're still running 150 miles
645
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:40,938
over five days.
646
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:43,218
Even in temperate conditions, you'll still get
647
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:46,218
repetitive strain injuries, hips, knees, ankles.
648
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:48,528
And you have to pay attention to that, as well.
649
00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:51,078
Every day you're basically doing a different ultra,
650
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,018
across some of the most
extreme conditions in the world.
651
00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:56,538
All the time you're getting
stimulated by your environment,
652
00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:58,908
by the other runners around you
653
00:32:58,950 --> 00:33:00,558
but you've got this goal in the background.
654
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,018
So for some people who are neurodivergent
655
00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:06,108
and have ADHD, that might
be the perfect sport for them.
656
00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:08,868
I'm a volunteer here at MDS.
657
00:33:08,910 --> 00:33:12,888
I was a late diagnosed ADHDer.
658
00:33:12,930 --> 00:33:15,910
I always think things end up into buzzwords, you know
659
00:33:16,765 --> 00:33:20,928
and ADHD is a superpower, well, do you know what,
660
00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:23,898
I suppose it's advantageous sometimes
661
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:25,218
but it's also a hindrance
662
00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:27,498
because it's very nerve-racking sometimes,
663
00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:29,328
when you just wanna be organized
664
00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:31,248
and you wanna stop fighting with yourself.
665
00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:35,175
Grabbing hold of hyperfocus is a wonderful thing.
666
00:33:35,217 --> 00:33:37,008
And it's wonderful if it fits the right thing
667
00:33:37,050 --> 00:33:38,355
and it's terrible if it's the wrong thing.
668
00:33:38,397 --> 00:33:40,518
You can't always just hyperfocus
669
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,856
on what you wanna hyperfocus on.
670
00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:46,458
Like, something happens and you have to do this,
671
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:48,288
this, this, this and screw everything else
672
00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:49,121
that you were supposed to do
673
00:33:49,163 --> 00:33:50,628
'cause you're hyperfocused on this.
674
00:33:50,670 --> 00:33:52,698
We have a huge problem,
675
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:54,338
that it's part of human experience
676
00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:55,788
to have a problem with focus, right.
677
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:57,978
To procrastinate before something,
678
00:33:58,020 --> 00:34:01,098
potentially to struggle to
focus every now and again.
679
00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:03,378
That is not the ADHD experience.
680
00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:05,568
The ADHD experience is having a debilitating
681
00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:06,498
impact on your life.
682
00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:10,428
It's exactly the same way
that depression isn't sadness.
683
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:13,938
That chronic anxiety isn't anxious on a first date.
684
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:16,398
That OCD isn't a tidy kitchen.
685
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,485
Like, they have wildly different things.
686
00:34:54,929 --> 00:34:56,511
As hot as it's been all week, really.
687
00:34:56,553 --> 00:34:58,037
It's absolutely brutal.
688
00:34:58,079 --> 00:34:59,413
Hot.
689
00:34:59,455 --> 00:35:00,872
Really hot today.
690
00:35:34,993 --> 00:35:36,631
Got strength for a walk.
691
00:35:36,673 --> 00:35:37,998
I was pretty roasted.
692
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,318
Unpacked our bags, took our shoes off
693
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,378
and just chilled out for about two hours.
694
00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:49,083
A real lesson in historical
learning, with these events.
695
00:35:50,709 --> 00:35:52,209
I would've just gone on before
696
00:35:53,410 --> 00:35:56,028
and that would've been extraordinarily dangerous.
697
00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:58,060
I mean, we're well over halfway now
698
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,298
but, drags and drags and drags.
699
00:36:02,340 --> 00:36:05,495
My mindset, with, well, you know,
700
00:36:05,537 --> 00:36:10,278
with ADHD, it's not suitable for this type of thing.
701
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,648
I think one of the reasons I do this,
702
00:36:12,690 --> 00:36:16,698
is to try and exercise
discipline and I struggle with it.
703
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:19,158
You know, you're in your head, you're like, stop, stop,
704
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,478
have a break, stop, just gotta keep going, keep going.
705
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,433
Every part of me wants to stop, when it's like that.
706
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,424
But I won't.
707
00:36:31,050 --> 00:36:34,490
My biggest problem right now, is overheating.
708
00:36:34,532 --> 00:36:37,308
'Cause my head starts to throb.
709
00:36:37,350 --> 00:36:39,393
I mean, I can't cool down.
710
00:36:44,269 --> 00:36:45,628
Good, thank you.
711
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:46,623
Okay, thank you.
712
00:36:56,070 --> 00:36:57,556
Just to get off those dunes.
713
00:36:57,598 --> 00:36:58,389
Yeah.
714
00:36:58,431 --> 00:36:59,418
Once you get off those dunes.
715
00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:00,251
Yeah.
716
00:37:00,293 --> 00:37:01,126
A bit of hard standing.
717
00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:04,833
So that means, like, hot, hot, hot.
718
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:07,878
When you're racing in an extreme environment,
719
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,818
it's not always about the
race, it's about the conditions
720
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:12,708
that you face when you're there.
721
00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:15,948
Someone can be fine, to needing medical extraction,
722
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:17,658
within the space of 20 minutes.
723
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:18,648
It's certainly arduous.
724
00:37:18,690 --> 00:37:20,403
It's so still and there's no wind.
725
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:22,548
You feel like you're baking.
726
00:37:22,590 --> 00:37:24,288
You're both going through the same thing.
727
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:26,658
You're both feeling the same emotions.
728
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:29,700
And, you know, together,
you're almost, kinda, joint forces,
729
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,988
to combat it, as opposed to doing it alone,
730
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:34,488
which can be quite daunting and difficult,
731
00:37:34,530 --> 00:37:36,438
particularly in, you know,
in an environment like this,
732
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,168
when there's two of you with the same goal.
733
00:37:39,210 --> 00:37:41,028
Yeah, you can, kind of, sort of, drive each other on.
734
00:37:41,070 --> 00:37:41,861
He's been great.
735
00:37:41,903 --> 00:37:43,578
Tell me everything, put my sun cream on
736
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:46,320
and make sure I'm drinking and so on and so forth, so.
737
00:37:53,896 --> 00:37:56,118
This is the best way to get to know anyone.
738
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,951
There's nothing.
739
00:37:56,993 --> 00:37:57,959
It doesn't matter who you are
740
00:37:58,001 --> 00:38:00,228
or where you come from or what your background is.
741
00:38:00,270 --> 00:38:01,533
You are what you are.
742
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:06,282
That to me is probably the most exciting thing.
743
00:38:20,384 --> 00:38:23,898
When you're halfway through a race, like the MDS,
744
00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:27,138
you almost certainly got
something happening to you
745
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:28,630
that wasn't part of the plan.
746
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,948
Suffering now.
747
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:35,958
Blisters, could be a whole load of things
748
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,478
but, you know, a lot of people will be thinking,
749
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,418
this wasn't in my plan and start to panic.
750
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:42,678
Simon, again, is experienced.
751
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,208
So he's seen a lot of these things
752
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:45,648
and will probably stay relaxed.
753
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:47,283
Very, very, very sore.
754
00:38:48,450 --> 00:38:51,603
Feet are really starting to break down now.
755
00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:53,958
A lot must go into these races
756
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,258
to test ourselves physically and mentally.
757
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:59,148
And at some point in the race, you know,
758
00:38:59,190 --> 00:39:00,768
we will be utterly broken.
759
00:39:00,810 --> 00:39:04,578
So it's been hot all day, now the sun's going down,
760
00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:09,093
one problem disappears and another one rises.
761
00:39:09,999 --> 00:39:11,448
So, literally, as soon as the sun's gone down,
762
00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:13,803
my feet have just stepped up about five years.
763
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:15,678
When the sun goes down,
764
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:17,778
there's a different set of challenges.
765
00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:20,478
The way I would like to run it would be in the daytime.
766
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,338
I don't really want to run at night at all.
767
00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:23,808
I've never enjoyed running at night.
768
00:39:23,850 --> 00:39:27,408
It's very easy to focus entirely on the physical side.
769
00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:30,393
But it's a mental race, more than a physical race.
770
00:39:40,773 --> 00:39:41,940
I am so hot,
771
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,343
I want water.
772
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:48,880
It's where we have still plenty of energy
773
00:39:50,627 --> 00:39:53,028
to enjoy this part of the stage.
774
00:39:53,070 --> 00:39:54,318
It's not entirely true of course
775
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,910
but we have to keep the spirit.
776
00:39:58,212 --> 00:39:59,508
I just want it done now, you know.
777
00:39:59,550 --> 00:40:02,405
Starting to not think very clearly.
778
00:40:02,447 --> 00:40:04,098
That's the problem when you get tired,
779
00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:05,793
you just start to fucking.
780
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:11,364
Just not very organized, are you?
781
00:40:11,406 --> 00:40:12,648
You know what I mean?
782
00:40:12,690 --> 00:40:14,373
Start to fucking drop the ball.
783
00:40:16,332 --> 00:40:17,930
The thing is, you're just getting
784
00:40:17,972 --> 00:40:20,091
close to, kind of, exhaustion.
785
00:40:20,133 --> 00:40:22,278
I'm feeling a little bit dehydrated,
786
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,578
despite constant drinking, every five minutes.
787
00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:28,248
But, we just need to get our heads up and go on.
788
00:40:28,290 --> 00:40:30,918
My children, keep thinking about them.
789
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,268
These latter stages, you know, they strip you away
790
00:40:35,310 --> 00:40:39,131
of lots of things and perhaps that's, in a sick way,
791
00:40:39,173 --> 00:40:41,058
part of the attraction.
792
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:42,900
That allows me to, kind of, build up
793
00:40:43,748 --> 00:40:46,488
my reserves again, in a very strange way.
794
00:40:46,530 --> 00:40:49,278
It's extremely intimidating to come back
795
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,448
to a place like this and revisit those things.
796
00:40:53,490 --> 00:40:56,418
You know, this is a big achievement today.
797
00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:58,563
Honestly, I really am broken.
798
00:41:01,047 --> 00:41:05,583
I think, smiling and being jovial, is, kind of, my way of
799
00:41:06,570 --> 00:41:09,918
placating certain things, you know, normal stuff.
800
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,938
ADHD at school, played the fool, disruptive,
801
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:16,128
I guess it got me attention of some kind,
802
00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:18,783
which I was attracted to.
803
00:41:20,037 --> 00:41:22,037
And that's, kind of, like, stuck with me
804
00:41:23,752 --> 00:41:25,278
throughout my adult life too.
805
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,918
I do think that's a defense mechanism.
806
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,620
It would be good to help
807
00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:33,408
myself and people like me,
808
00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:37,158
not feel like they have to repress their emotion.
809
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,018
There's no judgment in running.
810
00:41:39,060 --> 00:41:40,958
I love the fact that there's no judgment
811
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,788
on where you come from, how much money you have,
812
00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:45,180
you know, any of that shit.
813
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:48,230
It's really important.
814
00:41:49,957 --> 00:41:53,418
I think, you know, we're very fortunate in the west,
815
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:55,668
you know, things are getting easier by the day
816
00:41:55,710 --> 00:41:58,818
and I think you need to remember we were born in caves,
817
00:41:58,860 --> 00:42:02,575
so we're quite robust bits of pit, as I would like to say.
818
00:42:02,617 --> 00:42:04,136
And I think it's good to test that.
819
00:42:04,178 --> 00:42:05,988
It puts things into perspective.
820
00:42:06,030 --> 00:42:09,093
I'll go away from this better than before I started.
821
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,666
Both physically and mentally.
822
00:42:12,708 --> 00:42:13,698
A little broken, to be fair.
823
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:14,628
Not physically.
824
00:42:14,670 --> 00:42:15,678
The thing with these races,
825
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:18,078
you've gotta decompress for a bit to
826
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,321
figure out what you got out of it.
827
00:42:20,363 --> 00:42:21,948
At the moment I've just got pain.
828
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:24,003
And I miss my family.
829
00:42:25,274 --> 00:42:28,278
Which, comes part and parcel of it.
830
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,743
You sign up to do this stuff, it's gonna hurt.
831
00:42:40,523 --> 00:42:42,190
Simon!
832
00:42:44,642 --> 00:42:45,639
Broken.
833
00:42:45,681 --> 00:42:46,598
Oh, my God.
834
00:42:48,236 --> 00:42:49,069
Breathe.
835
00:42:50,061 --> 00:42:50,978
Oh, my God.
836
00:43:02,193 --> 00:43:03,773
There's a lot of very hurt people.
837
00:43:12,979 --> 00:43:16,896
A little bit, you know, anxious
838
00:43:16,938 --> 00:43:18,261
about going out again tomorrow.
839
00:43:18,303 --> 00:43:19,848
But, just gotta eat today
840
00:43:19,890 --> 00:43:22,668
and make sure to make the most of the rest
841
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:25,936
and get as much food down as humanly possible.
842
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:32,538
Some people come here
843
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:34,368
and they think that they are well-trained
844
00:43:34,410 --> 00:43:36,048
because they did some other races
845
00:43:36,090 --> 00:43:39,408
but, it's another story, you know, to live in the desert
846
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:42,678
and to be able to do 250 kilometers, it's another story.
847
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,298
Here the problem is the temperature.
848
00:43:44,340 --> 00:43:48,258
We have two things, is the heat and your feet.
849
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,148
We are not talking about small blisters,
850
00:43:50,190 --> 00:43:52,098
like with your shoes, in your city.
851
00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:55,128
We are talking about some blister, like potatoes.
852
00:43:55,170 --> 00:43:57,258
That's why you have to take care of your feet
853
00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:58,308
every day, okay.
854
00:43:58,350 --> 00:44:01,398
Because with the sand, it can be a big problem.
855
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,273
And the heat.
856
00:44:25,925 --> 00:44:27,981
I found today, that after a long stage like that,
857
00:44:28,023 --> 00:44:30,228
I've had a chance to, kind of, daydream of it
858
00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:33,078
and think about getting over halfway
859
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,860
and thinking about how clear it is that
860
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:40,218
most people have got something.
861
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:42,190
The one resounding
862
00:44:43,050 --> 00:44:46,482
bit of drive, that's coming forward,
863
00:44:46,524 --> 00:44:48,124
is to help young people who have
864
00:44:50,037 --> 00:44:53,388
got something going on, that isn't considered normal.
865
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:56,778
Having a neurodivergent condition, such as ADHD,
866
00:44:56,820 --> 00:44:58,338
has its challenges.
867
00:44:58,380 --> 00:45:00,888
Some of those challenges, in childhood
868
00:45:00,930 --> 00:45:02,538
or when you're a teenager,
869
00:45:02,580 --> 00:45:05,448
a young person can be really difficult
870
00:45:05,490 --> 00:45:06,468
getting help with that
871
00:45:06,510 --> 00:45:08,868
or getting other people to relate to you better,
872
00:45:08,910 --> 00:45:12,738
knowing better how you tick, how you can pass exams,
873
00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:14,388
talk to people, socialize, all the things
874
00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:16,998
that some people take for absolute granted.
875
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,278
Some people with ADHD really struggle with.
876
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,798
There is an increased suicide rate
877
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,748
and that could be possibly addressed
878
00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:25,158
by helping people earlier.
879
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,618
All focus should be on trying to avoid people
880
00:45:27,660 --> 00:45:29,748
getting to a point where they take their own lives
881
00:45:29,790 --> 00:45:33,468
or spiral into some form of unnecessary depression,
882
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:35,628
whether they're a male or female.
883
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:37,743
It does seem to be a common denominator,
884
00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:43,368
women feel like they're not talked about enough,
885
00:45:43,410 --> 00:45:45,321
in regards to ADHD because of the way
886
00:45:45,363 --> 00:45:47,478
that they seem to develop when they're young.
887
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,658
It's just the void between the two genders,
888
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:52,115
I think, is just less clear
889
00:45:52,157 --> 00:45:54,378
'cause boys seem so much more immature
890
00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:56,868
and it just comes to the front earlier.
891
00:45:56,910 --> 00:46:00,168
We have a massive problem in the underdiagnosis,
892
00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:01,038
a full stop.
893
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,218
But we have a bigger
underdiagnosis problem in girls.
894
00:46:04,260 --> 00:46:07,308
That stereotype, are you a little boy running around
895
00:46:07,350 --> 00:46:08,448
and are you disruptive?
896
00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:10,458
Whereas, a little girl is
more likely to be disruptive,
897
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:11,628
really, to herself.
898
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:12,858
And on top of that,
899
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:16,488
a lot of the research has been male only.
900
00:46:16,530 --> 00:46:20,028
And so, that understanding of women and girls,
901
00:46:20,070 --> 00:46:22,620
has not been researched properly and needs to be.
902
00:46:22,662 --> 00:46:23,453
Basically, you should be able to talk about
903
00:46:23,495 --> 00:46:24,438
whatever you wanna talk about,
904
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,993
with whoever you wanna talk about it with.
905
00:46:26,868 --> 00:46:27,910
That's the bottom line.
906
00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:58,578
My pack feels a lot lighter.
907
00:46:58,620 --> 00:47:00,303
I think having a day's rest,
908
00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:03,438
fuck, it just makes such a difference.
909
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,508
But, I'm not blind to the fact
910
00:47:05,550 --> 00:47:07,528
this could be short-lived, so,
911
00:47:07,570 --> 00:47:09,258
I'll just try and gun as much as I can,
912
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:11,203
until the sun gets hotter.
913
00:47:14,349 --> 00:47:15,601
We're getting stronger baby.
914
00:47:20,716 --> 00:47:22,305
No?
915
00:47:22,347 --> 00:47:24,168
28.4 anyways now.
916
00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:25,001
Already?
917
00:47:25,043 --> 00:47:25,834
Yep.
918
00:47:25,876 --> 00:47:26,826
Great, thank you.
919
00:47:26,868 --> 00:47:27,888
You know, in this race,
920
00:47:27,930 --> 00:47:31,578
you can find some very, very different people.
921
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:34,008
That mean you have some CEO of companies
922
00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:35,448
and you have some workers.
923
00:47:35,490 --> 00:47:39,138
In this race, they are not anymore CEO or workers.
924
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:42,078
They are in the same camp, they have the same tent,
925
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,058
they have the same things.
926
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:47,946
The mind that I need to tame periodically,
927
00:47:47,988 --> 00:47:49,368
feels like it's at, you know,
928
00:47:49,410 --> 00:47:51,588
a relative peace, at the moment.
929
00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:56,418
Kind of, found my own ways of treating myself.
930
00:47:56,460 --> 00:47:59,148
It's very severe but, you know,
931
00:47:59,190 --> 00:48:03,174
I'll feel good for months, not days.
932
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:22,218
It's almost like you can't cool yourself down
933
00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:23,051
quicker than you're heating up.
934
00:48:23,093 --> 00:48:26,688
So it's just like a bit of a chess game, really.
935
00:48:26,730 --> 00:48:27,828
Keep your sodium levels right,
936
00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:29,538
keep the fluids constantly going in.
937
00:48:29,580 --> 00:48:30,480
Dave, you going.
938
00:48:34,795 --> 00:48:37,973
My pee is dark orange, almost blood orange.
939
00:48:39,103 --> 00:48:40,970
You've got such a huge calorie deficit.
940
00:48:42,435 --> 00:48:43,968
Your body's just eating itself.
941
00:48:44,010 --> 00:48:44,838
It's a machine.
942
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,108
It's widely regarded as being the hardest foot race
943
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:48,941
on the planet.
944
00:48:48,983 --> 00:48:51,195
Essentially, you're there to get yourself through it.
945
00:48:51,237 --> 00:48:53,687
But you are an island in the Sahara.
946
00:49:00,356 --> 00:49:03,678
Flats, runable and then it just went into dune, sand
947
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,793
and hell, you know, it's just stifling.
948
00:49:08,129 --> 00:49:09,803
That was very difficult.
949
00:49:09,845 --> 00:49:11,378
Ah!
950
00:49:13,533 --> 00:49:14,366
Top job.
951
00:49:16,590 --> 00:49:18,228
So we're going down a route here,
952
00:49:18,270 --> 00:49:21,468
where we're choosing to talk really openly about it.
953
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:23,088
Most people don't have that
954
00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:25,788
and they're just locked off to it, you know,
955
00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:29,268
to the point that it really alienates themselves
956
00:49:29,310 --> 00:49:30,101
from their own life.
957
00:49:30,143 --> 00:49:34,518
I see my son, who's got ADHD and I see myself,
958
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,378
as, at his age.
959
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:38,418
He can't help it, you know,
960
00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:41,058
it's just electricity coming out of
961
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:43,428
his every pore, at different points
962
00:49:43,470 --> 00:49:44,928
and he doesn't know what to do with that.
963
00:49:44,970 --> 00:49:49,308
We know that 76% of ADHD
can be described genetically.
964
00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:51,558
We've seen that through a whole lot of studies,
965
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,728
particularly twin studies.
966
00:49:52,770 --> 00:49:56,268
Almost every case, if one identical twin has ADHD,
967
00:49:56,310 --> 00:49:58,183
the other has ADHD.
968
00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:09,663
Little bit of a negative mindset.
969
00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:14,813
Just haven't been able to get into a rhythm.
970
00:50:15,733 --> 00:50:17,591
The desert is a beautiful, beautiful place
971
00:50:17,633 --> 00:50:19,413
but it's ruthless.
972
00:50:22,530 --> 00:50:24,228
Training of the mind.
973
00:50:24,270 --> 00:50:26,148
Pick yourself up, go again.
974
00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:29,088
Don't lose your focus and your temper.
975
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:33,010
Take things in a balanced way
976
00:50:33,870 --> 00:50:36,213
and then, eventually, you get what you want.
977
00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:38,243
More dreams.
978
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,678
I had a horrible night's sleep.
979
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,069
Mentally, I'm choosing not
to be very positive right now.
980
00:50:57,111 --> 00:51:00,611
But, the fact is, we've got one last push.
981
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,688
It's been an amazing experience, in some respects.
982
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:07,878
It's been incredible just to talk to people
983
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,938
so openly about ADHD.
984
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:12,978
It feels like it's almost a relief for people
985
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:14,778
to open up and talk about it.
986
00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:18,108
And perhaps we're assisting in creating a bridge
987
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:19,350
to allow that to happen.
988
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,258
People say it changes you.
989
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:25,938
You don't believe them but it does change us.
990
00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:28,518
I think everyone here definitely has a story.
991
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,618
I was meant to do it with my brother and he died.
992
00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:32,298
And then, my mum's unwell,
993
00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:34,608
so I'm doing it to raise money for her hospital.
994
00:51:34,650 --> 00:51:37,908
Unless you've got a reason, you're not gonna finish it.
995
00:51:37,950 --> 00:51:40,878
I think, sometimes you need to push your limits,
996
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,228
just to feel alive.
997
00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:43,128
I think it's just going home
998
00:51:43,170 --> 00:51:44,568
and appreciate things a bit more.
999
00:51:44,610 --> 00:51:46,050
Kind of puts it all in perspective.
1000
00:51:52,650 --> 00:51:55,938
There's nothing more valuable than actual examples
1001
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:58,938
of people who have got ADHD.
1002
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:01,608
People just don't like talking about it,
1003
00:52:01,650 --> 00:52:05,508
until it impacts them or there's a kid in their family
1004
00:52:05,550 --> 00:52:06,341
who's got it.
1005
00:52:06,383 --> 00:52:09,768
Should it be taught in school, what these things are?
1006
00:52:09,810 --> 00:52:12,045
Being more open, talking about it.
1007
00:52:12,087 --> 00:52:15,198
And then knowing that
having ADHD doesn't necessarily
1008
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:17,298
limit you from doing something.
1009
00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:19,128
It can be addressed far earlier.
1010
00:52:19,170 --> 00:52:20,538
And before it gets a chance
1011
00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:23,808
to develop into something a bit more suspect,
1012
00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:26,478
it can be blocks off and rediverted.
1013
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,728
That really is where this goes.
1014
00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:30,363
But that isn't a quick fix.
1015
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,378
A lot of pain.
1016
00:52:33,420 --> 00:52:35,680
This is the hardest thing I've ever done.
1017
00:52:35,722 --> 00:52:37,818
Hand down, hardest thing I've ever done.
1018
00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:39,198
I think it's really important
1019
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:42,258
to help people find a diagnosis early.
1020
00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:44,928
A diagnosis turns the lights up
1021
00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:47,778
and suddenly you can see your mates, you can navigate.
1022
00:52:47,820 --> 00:52:48,738
When we talk to people,
1023
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:50,808
we know how life-changing it is for them.
1024
00:52:50,850 --> 00:52:52,195
Same time.
1025
00:52:52,237 --> 00:52:53,028
We go ahead.
1026
00:52:57,479 --> 00:52:58,270
Living with ADHD,
1027
00:52:58,312 --> 00:53:00,078
you've gotta make some quite big decisions.
1028
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,718
When to push yourself and when to be kind to yourself.
1029
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,598
You can only really do that
if you really properly know.
1030
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,058
If you have a formal diagnosis.
1031
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:09,468
There is a sense of, sort of,
1032
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:11,298
coming home, being understood
1033
00:53:11,340 --> 00:53:12,168
and that's really common
1034
00:53:12,210 --> 00:53:14,448
when somebody has an ADHD diagnosis, is, sort of,
1035
00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:17,238
coming to understand why they are the way they are.
1036
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,208
It's like a light bulb and you're so happy
1037
00:53:20,250 --> 00:53:22,488
because you're like, I knew something was wrong.
1038
00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:24,228
That explains everything.
1039
00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:27,108
I think he just was happy to go, yes, I do have that.
1040
00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:28,608
Where he comes into his own though,
1041
00:53:28,650 --> 00:53:30,798
it provides you with hyperfocus,
1042
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,328
especially around things
1043
00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:34,218
that you're genuinely interested in.
1044
00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:35,118
And so the enlightenment
1045
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,238
of actually knowing, is life-changing.
1046
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,098
You've got the keys to the car.
1047
00:53:40,140 --> 00:53:41,748
You can seek help for that.
1048
00:53:41,790 --> 00:53:42,735
You can get medication for that.
1049
00:53:42,777 --> 00:53:44,238
You can look at support groups.
1050
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,458
You can start to really play to your strengths
1051
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:47,538
and manage your weaknesses
1052
00:53:47,580 --> 00:53:48,858
in a way you just couldn't before.
1053
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,538
Knowing how you tick, helps you function.
1054
00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:55,580
I think it could just lead to a
happier, more informed you,
1055
00:53:55,650 --> 00:53:58,338
which, essentially, is what we're all aiming for.
1056
00:53:58,380 --> 00:53:59,780
It's a peace with ourselves.
1057
00:54:01,437 --> 00:54:05,748
2021, it's just represented so many things.
1058
00:54:05,790 --> 00:54:07,278
It wasn't just about the race.
1059
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,123
I stared into the voids that year.
1060
00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:15,108
This is a realization of how far I've come.
1061
00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:16,908
I've used something that I've probably known I've had,
1062
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:21,798
for a long time, as an
extremely positive influence on,
1063
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,478
for many, many things.
1064
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,358
There's absolutely no doubt that it's meaningful
1065
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,868
and powerful, if it could be understood.
1066
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:33,948
But that's different in every single child and adult.
1067
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:36,768
And that's why it can't be, just labeled.
1068
00:54:36,810 --> 00:54:37,953
It has to be broader.
1069
00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:40,980
I see the finish line.
1070
00:55:02,936 --> 00:55:04,604
Yes, yes, yes!
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