All language subtitles for Do.You.Know.The.Muffin.Man.1989.720p.WEBRip.x264.AAC-[YTS.MX]

Two -way, run on anything.

Okay, come on, Big Ted.

You're due, buddy, you're due.

Keep your eye on the ball.

Wait for yours, Dad.

Look, I know what you hear out there,
but drugs aren't cool.

Cigarettes aren't cool.

And alcohol isn't cool.

One hit of crack and you can be hooked
for life.

Nicotine will give you lung cancer.

Alcohol will wrap that car you worked so
hard to earn around a telephone pole.

Now, thanks.

Let's hit some of the myths that you're
hearing out in the parking lot.

Officer?

Yeah?

I never hit on any myths before. Am I
gonna get hooked?

No.

Myths are safe, Stu.

It's a reality you gotta watch out for.

Dear God, for what we are about to
receive, make us truly thankful.

Keep Mom and Dad and Teddy and Rex safe.

And lead the Seahawks safely out of the
Second Division.

Amen.

The blue item on the top of your head?

Thank you.

Stop by the car place again?

Yeah.

I said body shop. The guys were all
wearing Rolex.

Great. I'll make a few more phone calls.

You know, I stopped by the teacher's
lounge today.

I'm winding after another grueling day
behind the slide projector.

Hey, watch yourself, young man.

Brandon Cassidy said you were fighting
over cigarettes.

Yeah, I left with my jaw again.

Forget it.

May I be excused?

Kendra, I'm the chairperson for the Tiny
Tots fundraiser this year. I know, we

got the invitation.

It should be a fun evening.

Helen, we'd love to do something for the
school, but I decided temping again.

And Roger isn't much of a dancer.

Maybe I can hit you up for the garage
sale this spring.

Great. Good deal. All right.

You know who turned me down flat?

Who? Miriam Slossberg.

Josh's mom?

Sunday night.

She gets Alex up out of bed at 2 a .m.
He meets them at the E .R. You know what

it was?

Huh?

Gonorrhea.

It was Josh.

I think I'm in love.

Who's she?

Miriam Schlossberg.

About Tiny Todd?

She wanted to file a complaint.

Talk her out of it.

What kind of complaint?

Would you believe sodomy?

She had nothing but the kid's word on
it.

Don't you think it ought to be
investigated?

It's our kid's school.

The chief has known the Richardsons for
25 years.

Believe me, they're solid.

Want another real story?

Flossburg just broke up with her
boyfriend.

He runs some sort of art gallery in
Portland.

Mrs. Richardson thinks he raped Josh.

Did you talk to this guy?

I called a buddy of mine in Vice.

They're checking him out.

What happens at Tiny Town while they're
checking?

Innocent until proven guilty.

Come on.

What about this new teacher?

George Olin took a voluntary blood test.

No trace of any form of ED.

How are we doing?

About five minutes. Perfect.

Dr. Wells, we did all the tests.

There was no screw -up.

Well, can you get gonorrhea any other
way?

That I know of.

The only place Josh goes is Tiny Tot.

It's a preschool, for crying out loud.

There's got to be a reasonable
explanation.

two. Dinner's almost ready.

Linda, you want to go wash your hair?

Yes.

There you go.

Bear, is there anything you want to tell
me about?

Nope.

Like, about school?

No. What are we having for dinner?

Hamburgers. Pickles?

Baby dills, the kind you like.

Yummy.

I heard Josh is sick.

Has he been at school?

No.

Don't you think the teachers make you
uncomfortable?

No, they're nice.

How about Mr. George?

He plays baseball with us.

Does anyone at school touch you in a bad
way?

Like we talked about?

You guys want to eat these on the
swings?

Yeah. All right.

That's good to me.

Thank you.

Melinda? She loves cool.

Everything's great.

Did you talk to Teddy?

Yeah, he's fine.

Well, I could tell if there was
something.

Mrs. Flossberg, officially, I'm not
here.

But unofficially.

You want to see if you buy it. Well,
I've been doing some research.

Sexual abuse in preschools is very, very
rare.

Really? Then why do the police want to
cover it up when it actually happens?

Nobody wants to cover anything up.

The chief has been playing golf with the
Richardsons for years now.

A lot of questions.

The other detective asked more than...
I'm not a detective.

As a parent.

What about you?

What do you believe?

Well, I guess I have a lot of trouble
stomaching the idea that any

grown -up wants to have sex with a
child.

What they're saying about me isn't true,
okay?

I don't have any boyfriends.

I wish that I did.

Well, it couldn't have been George Olin.
He doesn't have the disease.

It happened during nap time. They gave
Josh something funny tasting. They put

in his fruit juice.

He woke up in the back of the van. Now,
he was groggy, but he still remembers

them taking him. Who?

The Richardson's. The chief's golfing
buddies drove my son to a motel room.

There was a man there that Josh didn't
know.

He was very fat.

Is that all?

That man raped him.

So you're not saying that the
Richardsons had sex with Josh?

The Richardsons watched.

All right, look, our investigation
didn't locate a van.

Josh is the only kid who's told a story
like this.

Could your son make up something like
this?

Bye -bye.

It hurts, huh?

Well, you just relax now.

I'm going to make it all better, okay?

There you go.

Now, how's that?

Hi. Can I help you? Oh, yes.

I was just wondering if I could visit my
son's class.

Oh, sure. What's his name?

Teddy Dollison. I think he's in Mavis'
class.

Yeah, they're still out in the yard. Oh,
great.

We haven't met yet. I'm Kendra Dollison.

George Olin. I'll show you.

I think he's over there. Thank you.

Hi, Bear.

Hi, Mom.

Is it okay if I come to visit?

Want to see me hang from the bar? Sure.

I know.

Kinder, what a nice performance. Hi,
Mavis.

I just thought I'd stop by and see how
Teddy's doing.

If that's okay with you. Of course it
is. There you go, Teddy.

Getting lots of good feedback at home?
Oh, well, Teddy seems a little bored

school. I hear that all the time. Why
aren't they reading? What about their

timetables?

You just don't push your timetables.

Oh, I'm not complaining.

See, you have to realize the important
thing right now is socialization.

And you don't have anything to worry
about as far as Teddy is concerned.

He's making lots of friends.

That's good.

Everybody seems to be having a good
time.

Now, it's a little surprise to find the
front door locked.

You never know who's going to walk in
off the street.

Come on, let me show you some of Teddy's
artwork. Great.

So, any news on the collision shop
front?

Yeah, Otto's Golden Hammer will do it
for $1 ,800.

For body work or work with Don? Sure.

So, how was school?

Boring.

Honey, did anybody unusual ever pick
Josh up after school?

No. Well, like maybe somebody Josh's mom
would say. Mom, he said no.

I want to eat all these carrots.

Well, you want to hit home run?

Wait, would that mean by me catching
you?

Uh -uh.

You can't admit you got to eat parsnip.

Teddy?

Are there any new men teachers at
school?

Mom, what is it with you?

You don't believe anything that he says.

Of course I do. I'm just interested in
school.

Parents.

Got to watch him, Ted.

Jeff Whitbeck's mom took him into the
drugstore to discuss condoms.

He didn't.

Yes, he did.

Then she cut off his allowance when he
knew what aisle they were in.

Turn it off, Sandy.

What have you got against the National
Geographic Society?

Since when did Bob Hope start doing
National Geographic specials?

Brooke Shields is an educated woman.

She's cuter than you are, honey. From
you, Princeton's going to expect

Okay, mister, time for bed.

Robbie, what happened to you?

Are

you

sure there isn't anything you want to
tell Mommy?

Okay, it's supposed that a catcher's
mitt only cost $30.

He did.

Night -night, little bear.

What about a first -base management?

You would tell Mommy if... I like
school. I like boring stuff.

Night -night.

Good night, Mom.

Okay.

I'm going to go to the cash machine so
you guys get to supply them. Now

remember, no fast... food he gets to
pick the place he likes okay see

ya

You remember the other parents and
mommies and daddies?

Can you tell us more about the blood?

Where did it come from?

Sweetheart, what do you mean you're
covered in blood?

Hey.

Happy birthday.

Oh, thanks, guy. What are you guys doing
here?

Why is Melinda here?

Dad, what's going on?

Why are Teddy's teachers here?

Is Melinda going to jail?

No, we don't put kids in jail.

Dad, what's she saying?

Why don't you guys go wait in the
interrogation room, okay?

Sandy, the door's shut.

Hi, Teddy.

Is Melinda going to have to wear
handcuffs?

Dad told you they don't arrest little
kids.

And why is she still here?

Paula's taking her home.

Honey, wake up.

Daddy, wake up, honey.

I need to talk to you.

You've got to tell me the truth there.

What Melinda said happened at school.

Did you see it?

Honey, look at me.

Daddy, look at me.

Did you see anyone do anything bad to
Melinda?

The teachers are nice, Mom.

Did you see anyone hurt? Any of the
kids? Any of the kids at all?

No.

Good

night,

little bear.

Good night.

What happens if Melinda wakes up
tomorrow and changes her story? What

then? Melinda isn't making up a story.

Tiny Tot has been open for years.

Why would the Richardson's suddenly
start something like this? Okay, okay.

what's it going to take to get you to
believe the kids?

I'm the one who believes.

Teddy says that Josh and Melinda are
making up a story. I believe my son.

not being rational. Rational?

Don't talk to me about rational. People
don't do things like this. Okay, so it's

a coincidence that Josh and Melinda just
make up stories that the exact same

four people molested them. Then Teddy
didn't know.

Melinda said it's been happening for a
long time in a small house. How could he

not have known? Then why won't he tell
me about it?

Get dressed, Teddy, and Beth will show
you the toy drawer.

Come on, Teddy.

His blood tests are all normal.

So he's all right?

There are laceration scars on his
rectum.

The scars could come from a lot of
things.

Kendra, Teddy's been raped.

Well, if you've been through what
Teddy's been through, would you want to

people about it?

Dr. Billington, we're his parents.

It's been six weeks.

He's making real progress in his
therapy.

You mean he's talking to you?

There are nonverbal ways for a child to
tell a therapist what's wrong.

I have to warn you, the healing process
can take a long time.

Years, even.

You can put the family under stress.

And no one's ever done a longitudinal
study. Oh, come on, Martha. What's he

you?

I want you to see one of Teddy's
drawings.

What does it mean?

We're not sure.

They aren't here anymore, Bear.

They're gonna be in jail for a long
time.

They're gone.

Lots of kids have told.

There's nothing to be afraid of. Nobody
is going to hurt you.

Honey, nobody is going to know you told.

Remember what Daddy said? They're all in
jail.

They'll find out.

Nobody will know but us.

It's our secret.

Mavis gave it to him.

She brought it to the house just as he
started school.

There's nothing to be afraid of. There
are no more secrets.

They said you'd die if I ever told.

You're never going to have to worry
about anything like that again, I

Which one of them hurt you?

They all did.

Miss Susan took pictures.

While they did what?

Mr. George liked to play games.

Tell us about the games.

going to jail.

They're never going to hurt you, and
they're never going to hurt us.

Look at the car.

It's tonight to find out how many
victims there really are.

You ready?

Yep. Go.

Because we didn't want you to read about
these indictments for the first time in

the papers.

So, here it is.

Tomorrow, the district attorney will
announce indictments against two

defendants, Mavis and Arthur Richardson,
on 37 separate counts of child

molestation and sexual abuse.

What about the other two?

We've elected not to indict either Miss
Larimer or George Owen.

Miss Larimer raped my daughter.

What do you have to do around here to
get indicted?

Your daughter is only two.

A two -year -old is not a good witness.

You have to realize that we want to make
cases we can win.

There just wasn't enough evidence
against the other two teachers.

Are you telling us you let them walk?

They've left the community, yes.

In the absence of an indictment, they're
entirely within their rights. That's

crap, Bernstein.

I ran NCIC on all four of these freaks.

Susan Larimer has a record.

She was tried in Kentucky for molesting
a retarded kid. And she was acquitted.

It isn't a crime to be accused of a
felony.

Yeah, but you've got to admit, somebody
screwed up. How did she get a job at

Tiny Tom's? Didn't anybody from the
licensing board check this woman?

Look, you entrusted your children to
these people.

The defense is going to harp on that.

Nobody, including you, knows what a
child molester looks like. So don't go

all the people who should have known.
You should have known.

Listen, listen.

We need your children as witnesses.

The defense is going to try to destroy
their credibility on this stand. If you

don't support your children, if you
don't help them testify, you have no

of getting a conviction. None.

And I promise you, every person in this
room is going to want to give

up before this trial is over.

Mr. Bernstein, our son is ready to
testify against George and Susan.

Which one is your son? Teddy Dollison.
Right. He's almost five.

He's very bright. Make a good witness.
Look, I don't know how much you know

about courtroom strategy. No, I know
that you're missing evidence. Teddy

about photographs.

No, I'm not talking about evidence.

I'm talking about pedophilia.

The average person doesn't want to
believe that adults have sex with

Now, jurors are average people, which
means that a prosecutor has got to stay

below their threshold of credibility.

Mr. Bernstein, Susan and George raped my
son. What are you saying? Are you

saying that Teddy doesn't have the right
to accuse them? No, I'm saying that

Teddy, unfortunately, is one of only
four kids who have made specific

allegations against George and Susan.

Wait, you have four witnesses, and
that's not enough?

Three of them are two -year -olds who
won't do me any good on the stand.

That leaves me with one.

And the simple truth is most of the
witnesses we have today will drop out

the trial is over. Teddy will not drop
out. Look, I know you want to get these

people. I feel the same way.

But the bottom line is convictions. I
have got to make a case I can win. All

right, so what if we find Susan and
George, right? What if there are

or videotapes? These people are not
dumb.

If there ever were photos, there aren't
now.

All right, what if there were?

and we'd re -examine the situation
pretty fast, okay?

Ken?

What?

Nothing.

Can you see it?

What? What's going on?

It happened at nap time.

They kept the doors locked. There were
lookouts. There was nothing to see. Did

you see it in his eyes?

You saw him at breakfast.

You saw him every night at dinner.
Couldn't you see anything? Well, I'm not

mother. Mothers are supposed to know
when things are going on.

So this is all my fault.

It's their fault. They did it.

Ah, you heard Bernstein. We should have
known.

God, I keep going through this over and
over in my mind.

You know, what did I miss?

I mean, how could Teddy keep something
like this inside him?

How did it happen that one day, and I'm
off doing something for myself, you

know, I don't know, I'm eating a Danish.

And these people are raping our baby.

You know, I never consciously wanted to
hurt anybody before.

I want to find these people.

I want to beat their faces into a pulp.

And I'm going to tell Teddy that I did
it.

I can't let them get away.

Susan and George?

The case is too weak. Yeah, but not if
we find some hard evidence. Now, why'd

they take pictures?

Huh? There's got to be some kind of
pornography connection, right? So we go

to Portland and start there. Now, hold
on, hold on. Look, I'm the detective.

Trust me, it's just not worth wasting
time on. Hey, I got nothing but time.

You're very good at what you do, Rog.
But I'm not a detective, right? Well,

that's not the real problem. It's not
real to you because Susan and George

didn't hurt your kid.

No.

The real problem is they're gone.

What are you willing to do?

You and Kendra don't believe that
nonsense.

No, we think that Josh Lossberg got
gonorrhea from the tooth fairy.

Josh was raped by his mother's
boyfriend.

Yeah, see, that's your story. Teddy said
he saw it happen at school. Said he saw

Susan taking pictures of George raping
Josh.

That ludicrous.

Susan is a master teacher.

She supervised George while he was doing
his practice teaching.

I've known them both for years.

What's it like, Arthur?

Watching.

Did Teddy tell you all this before or
after his treatment with Dr. Billington?

What's Dr. Billington got to do with
anything?

She debriefed all 37 victims, didn't
she?

Doesn't prove anything?

She cooked it all up, Roger.

Every sword did lie.

Who's the fat man? I told you.

No conversation.

It's all right, Teddy.

It was just a bad dream. You're all
right.

You got any idea who we called? Me,
Tyler, or even younger?

Take it from a guy who's worked a lot of
vice doors.

This is a waste of time. The thing you
told me about the pedophile rings, we've

got to get inside one. The right one.

How do we know the Richardsons didn't
sell their stuff in San Francisco or L

.A.? I don't want to copy down some
phone numbers anyway.

Can I help you guys?

Yeah, we're staying in a hotel around
the corner.

Room service doesn't have what we're
looking for.

Which is?

Uh, young boys.

Four or five.

Everything in my store is legal.

Come on, man. We'll pay the freight.
Just tell us who to call.

You sleazy creep.

What are you going to do next? Show me
your damn snapshots?

I don't want your money. Sex with kids
makes me puke. What snapshots?

What snapshots?

Sick weirdos. Get out of my face.

Uncle Arthur took off the baby's
clothes.

And you're sure you saw this movie with
your own eyes?

Because it's very important you don't
tell me things you've heard, just what

really happened to you.

It was my day to be the baby.

Okay.

Show me what Uncle Arthur did to the
baby.

They called our insurance company.

Group therapy, they pay less than half.

I'm going to have to go back to work
full time.

You know anybody who's looking for a
secretary? A receptionist?

Paula?

Are you all right?

I looked at her last night while she was
sleeping.

Nightmares.

I watched her all night.

Since the minute I found out, she hasn't
been out of my sight.

Yes, George and I were in the same
class.

I was supposed to call him about the
alumni magazine.

Uh -huh. No, but that's the address that
I have. Do you have anything more

recent?

Well, I thought I might try the
preschool where he did his practice

Now, is that in your record?

That's good.

Okay.

Thank you.

I feel like I live in a phone company
commercial.

I have to call every preschool in
Connecticut.

Why? What makes you think he went back
east?

Well, as Arthur said, George and Susan
met, practiced teaching while he was in

college. Went to the Connecticut
Institute for Early Childhood

Well, before you do that, then, will you
call these people for me and tell them

I'm on the way?

Sure. What is this?

That's a meatpacking plant.

Nine bucks an hour. They said if they
like me, they might make it permanent.

Hey,

it's not going to be permanent.

What'd he call you?

What's the fad?

A guy who's got to be tough to survive.

Let me get to on base.

It's a bike.

What kind of school's open in the middle
of the night?

Go to bed.

I'm getting closer.

You think I like playing dead mother to
my father?

What kind of responsibility could warp
an adolescent's basic Oedipal drive?

I read the guy I know is George. He
thinks he's teaching at a school near

Haven.

Hey. How?

Teaching at a preschool in Bridgeport.

You didn't go to work today?

I called in sick.

I wish I'd known. Teddy could have
stayed here with you.

Hey, I like this place.

You eat too much salami, buddy.

Are you going?

I got a ticket on the red -eye.

Will you be back before I tell when I
come home?

I wouldn't miss that.

We've got to make sure Mr. George
doesn't hurt any more kids, Teddy.

Daddy, don't go near him.

We don't let people hurt us in this
family.

Teddy.

Oh, how'd you pay for the ticket?

Okay, say you get lucky. Say George does
keep photos of the kid.

Say Bernstein decides to re -indict.
What happens then?

Let me get them all.

You heard Teddy, they can't spit in our
faces.

And how long is that going to take,
Roger?

Don't give it to me in years. Give it to
me in nightmares.

Or better yet, maybe insults. How many
kids one person can abuse in a lifetime?

What about our kid, Roger?

People avoid me in the market.

Can't afford to fix our car.

Even if these friends would start
calling you mean. Okay, fine.

You don't want me to go? I won't go.

Roger?

Hey. Ernie and Renee. Yeah, Ernie, how
are you? It's fine, and you? Is he still

in town? Yeah.

He doesn't suspect a thing. All right,
good. I'll start watching the place this

afternoon. We've done better than that.
We put a policewoman in there

undercover. What do you mean, is that?

I had a talk with the owner.

What did you mention, George?

No way. I just said that he had a tip
about somebody abusing kids. You said

child abuse?

He doesn't want abuse at a school.
Ernie.

Did you ever handle a case like this
before?

I've never even heard of anything like
this around here.

Let's get going.

Mr. George is sick today.

Well, it still hasn't been at his desk.

Maybe it really isn't.

He'd Snapchat to be in his apartment.

Is that the address?

Yeah. All right, let's get over there.

It'll take a couple hours to get another
warrant.

It's ours.

Take a look at this.

This is a dress book.

With phony names.

Want it?

I want everything.

Mr. Olin, police.

Open up, sir.

Open it.

Now, Melinda, how often did you play
baby nursery?

Every Thursday during nap time.

Mm -hmm.

And did Aunt Mavis play, too?

She changed the baby's diapers.

And you were the baby?

So then Aunt Mavis took your clothes
off.

And what did Uncle Arthur do?

He powdered the baby's bottom.

With baby powder? From a can?

On his fingers.

Then what did he do?

The bad thing.

Then, Melinda, can you tell us where
Uncle Arthur put his fingers?

I don't want to.

Okay.

Can you tell us, then, if the game hurt
the baby?

It hurt the baby's vagina.

Melinda?

How does a five -year -old know a word
like vagina?

Women have them.

But how do you know, Melinda?

It's one of Dr.

Billington's words.

My mommy told me what it means.

Ah.

One of Dr.

Billington's words.

Objection, Your Honor. Argumentative.

Sustained.

Melinda, does your family own a VCR?

You know, a machine?

To play movies?

Answer my question, Melinda.

Do Mommy and Daddy watch movies on a
VCR?

We all do.

Then isn't it possible that you got
these ideas from some of the

Mommy and Daddy watch?

That's a lie!

We've never watched an X -rated movie in
our lives. You're not on trial here,

Mr. Stockman.

Melinda isn't either. Mr. Stockman! How
can you let him badger her while they're

glaring at her?

You're just as bad as the people you're
supposed to be judging.

Mr. Stockman, please.

Melinda, did you first hear about grown
-ups abusing children from Dr.

Billington or from your mother?

My mommy didn't do anything.

Then why is she trying to coach you,
Melinda?

What are you two trying to hide?

Ten -minute recess.

Mom, you didn't finish.

What happened to Melinda today in court?

Fugliatti confused her.

She couldn't remember a thing she said
on her deposition.

Sandy, can you help me with that?

Look at the door. She was going to be
one of the best witnesses.

You know, she cried a lot.

She wasn't sure of things.

It was a mess.

Can I ride my bike before dinner, Mom?

Did you clean your room? Remember what
we said. You don't ride your bike till

you clean your room.

Patty, Sandy, go around the side of the
house.

I'll do it later. I'm going to go over
Mikey. Around the side of the house

now, both of you.

You don't have to worry, honey, because
you... Daddy!

Dad, they killed Rex. They're going to
kill you. No, no, no. What happened to

Rex was an accident.

He was poisoned.

No, no. Now, come on, Teddy.

Mama thinks that you must have got any
of that stuff we use on snails in the

garden. No, Dad, it's because you went
to find Mr. George.

I never saw him, Teddy.

He was gone before I got there. Hey.

He doesn't know you're told.

Are you sure?

I'm sure.

Okay? Come on, Pat. I'll buy you some
duck.

I don't get it.

He's convinced the Richardsons are the
ones who killed Rex.

What'd the guys in the lab say?

Well, the autopsy showed it was rat
poison.

Here we go. Judge is coming in.

Had to go back easy.

We took off before we could get
anything.

Too bad.

Okay, big guy.

Remember

what

we talked about there.

Just get up there and tell the truth.

Nobody can hurt you now.

I remember Mr. Bernstein's our friend
now. You just answer his questions in a

nice, loud voice.

Okay?

Don't look at your teddy.

It's just us. That's why we're here.

The Honorable Clinton Z. Allen
presiding. All rise.

You have to stand up, honey, to show
respect for the judge.

Nobody is going to hurt you. I wouldn't
ever let anybody hurt you, sweetie.

What is it? What is it?

They were right.

Who was right?

Aunt Mavis and Uncle Arthur.

They said if I told, a man would be here
to punish me. A man? Who?

A man in a black robe.

No, Bear, no. See, they knew that
there'd be a man in a black robe, but

judge.

He's your friend.

No, Dad.

People who are black are servants of...

Rex. Now you know, don't you?

Why, you're scared?

You sure do.

No, because they have magic powers.

Listen, Bill, they're not devils or
whatever they told you they are, okay?

They don't have any magic powers.

Then why are we going home?

Because they're sick.

They're bad.

Are you scared of them?

They did what's bad. It wasn't the kids.

It was them.

Right, Mom?

You still want to tell them that in
court?

It wasn't the kids.

Now, Teddy, you said that baby nursery
was a bad game.

Did anyone tell you baby nursery was a
bad game?

Dr. Billington.

Ah, Dr.

Billington again.

Dr. Billington told you that you were
bad to play the game.

No, she said it was a bad game, but she
didn't say we were bad to play it. So

you told Dr.

Billington about the game, and she told
you what to say here today.

Objection, Your Honor. He's twisting the
fact.

Goes to state of mind, Your Honor.

Repraise the question, Mr. Pugliati.

Teddy, can you tell the difference
between what's true and what's false?

Yes.

In baby nursery, were Mr.

and Mrs. Richardson really doctors?

No. What about Dr.

Billington?

Yes.

What would you say if I told you Dr.
Billington isn't really a doctor?

She isn't?

She's not a medical doctor, no.

Now, what about the Easter Bunny, Teddy?

Is the Easter Bunny real?

Objection, Your Honor. The Easter Bunny
is irrelevant.

Goes to the witness of credibility,
Judge.

I'll allow it.

Is the Easter Bunny real?

Yes.

Did Uncle Arthur ever dress up in a
rabbit costume?

Yeah. The Easter.

Was he really the Easter Bunny?

Well, if Dr. Billington wasn't really a
doctor, how can you be sure Uncle Arthur

wasn't really the Easter Bunny?

Who are you looking at, Teddy?

Is someone coaching you now the way Dr.

Billington coached every alleged victim
in this case?

Objection, Your Honor. The boy is
looking at his parents.

Sustained. Mr. Pugliati, you are
treading on thin ice here.

I believe the relevance will be
apparent, Your Honor. What it boils down

this. A lot of the time, you don't know
if a grown -up is telling you the truth

or not.

And you get confused, don't you?

Yeah.

Now, wasn't it really other kids that
you played doctor with and not your

teachers?

I don't know!

Leave him alone!

Mr. Dollison, let Mr.

Bernstein do the objective.

What kind of a man are you? He's a
child.

A child you put on the stand. No, a
child they put on the stand.

Why won't you let me tell what really
happened?

It's late.

Recess.

Reconvene in my chambers in ten minutes.

Eddie? Oops.

I'd like to try something different.

Sit down.

Melinda, why don't you sit in my chair?

And, Teddy, you stand right here like
Mr.

Bernstein and Mr. Pugliotti did.

Now, what we're about to do is off the
record.

That means it's not part of the trial.

just for me, because I'm confused about
something.

Linda, you said that Uncle Arthur and
Aunt Mavis stood over you and killed a

rabbit. And then, Teddy, later, you said
the rabbit was still alive.

Well, which is it? Dead or alive?

Both.

Judge, this is what I'm talking about.
They have no con... You be quiet, okay?

How can something be both dead and
alive?

Satan.

Who's Satan?

The devil.

Satan makes the rabbit die and then
brings him back to life?

Aunt Mabel told us.

There was always a new rabbit the next
morning.

Why did Satan do this?

Because we're bad.

The rabbit's good.

And if we're good, and we tell... What
will happen?

Robbie will tell Satan, and Satan will
punish us.

Satan? Robbie Rabbit? Let's get serious
here.

Mrs. Richardson gave each of the kids a
stuffed rabbit.

A toy? So?

The toy was actually a totem.

An evil eye watching them. An evil eye?
Come on, Marv. Who's your next witness

gonna be, a bat?

You watch your tone of voice with me,
okay? This whole case is a gross

fabrication. Be quiet, both of you.

I have what I need.

I want you to come back to court on
Monday and tell the jury exactly what

told me, okay?

Melinda is not going back on that stand.
We're not going to stop now.

What, you want to take on St. Louis?

Not people like the Manson gang? Uh -uh,
no thank you. He needs Melinda. I'm

sorry. What about what they did to
Melinda?

What about what you're doing to these
kids by putting them on the stand?

you want Arthur Mavis to go free?

I want to keep my daughter alive.

We're down to just three witnesses.

Teddy, Jennifer, and Josh.

It was clear to me from our sidebar
yesterday that the judge is as ticked

Pugliati as we are.

I can see the same thing in the jury's
eyes.

Your three kids are our only hope.

We can't afford to lose any of them now.

So when are you going to tell the jury
about Satanism?

Satanism wasn't the way to go a year
ago. It's not the way to go now.

Wait a minute.

You mean you knew about this all along?

Black robes, killing bunnies, your dog.

I had a pretty good idea.

And you didn't think that was relevant?

I talked to a lot of other prosecutors.

Everybody says the same thing.

Juries cannot deal with Satanism. Oh,
yeah, juries can't deal with it. Well,

know what? Kids don't deal with it so
well either.

Miriam. You know what? I can't believe
that you decided this on your own. You

know, that stinks.

You can't run a criminal prosecution by
committee.

Okay, you can't run it without witnesses
either.

All right. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

What if we can get one of them to cut a
deal with us?

They take oaths.

They ID their relatives for the group.

And that way, if somebody rats, they
know there'll be reprisals.

So you admit this is real?

It's not a question of what I believe.

I mean, look at the Presidio case, El
Paso, West Point.

The same stories keep cropping up all
over the country.

There's many satanic ritual abuse cases.

There's got to be something out there.

All right, then tell the jury that.

Look, we're doing the best we can.

I just can't make any promises.

You're telling us that we're going to
live.

After you put Josh on the stand so that
Pugliotti could rape him all over again,

my son is starting to stutter. He's in a
five -a -week therapy.

You know, he could be in that for
several years.

And all this time, you knew those...
Miriam!

Josh probably won't have to testify
again.

You're right, Bernstein.

You're damn right he won't. Look, I'm
sorry.

He can't do this alone.

You want some mint tea?

If you're with Mom, you're just getting
up.

Bernstein hasn't got any more witnesses.

It's over.

Just like that.

We don't let people hurt us in this
family, you said, but what the hell? You

what it's doing to him.

You have to understand, these people
killed our dog, remember that? You make

everybody up.

I didn't think you were such a damn
wimp.

You're always backing out. And you want
Teddy to grow up just like you. Hey,

it's enough.

No, it's not.

You can't back out.

You're letting him down, you're letting
everybody down.

You can't let this happen again.

You got him through the trial.

He's done everything a brother possibly
could do. No!

Don't touch me, all right?

You don't understand anything.

Don't you get it?

Get what?

It's all my fault. Me, mine.

I screwed it all up.

And Teddy, he... Sandy, it's not your
fault. Please don't touch me, all right?

Just leave me alone. All right, Sandy,
you're right. I don't understand.

I can't.

I can't.

I knew.

I knew.

And the reason I knew is because the
same thing happened to me.

If I told you what they did to me at
Tiny Top, Teddy would still be fine.

What do you mean what they did to you?

George and Susan weren't even there.

The Richardsons were.

Oh, my God.

Once I was out of there and nobody else
knew and nobody was hurt, I just wanted

to forget.

To pretend it never happened.

I'm sorry, but I just couldn't tell you.

Why? I was so ashamed, Mom.

Honey, it wasn't your fault.

I was different from the other kids.

Mavis told me that I was special.

A special kid.

You mean she threatened you?

She made me lie on the table.

Then she... She raped you, honey. That's
okay, because she did that to the other

kids. Mom, you don't understand.

She did it with me more than with the
other kid. Because I was special.

No, you weren't, honey. Mom, you still
don't understand what made me special.

It wasn't just that I'd done it with
her.

Mavis told me that I liked it.

Mom, I hated it.

I always hated it.

I was afraid.

That's why I let Teddy down.

I had to lie nude on the altar.

The altar was inside a pentagram
inscribed in a circle.

The other kids would hold the torches.

Mavis would stand in the center of the
circle holding the knife.

First she would slit a rabbit's throat.

Then I had to whisper these chants and
call her by her satanic name.

Then she would raise her robe.

And underneath she was naked.

And then I had to do it with her.

He's your witness.

He can stand up to Pugliotti.

Sandy, you want to wait out in the hall
for a minute?

It'll never fly.

So what do you think, that we, you know,
tell our son to go in the sand and lie?

No, uh, I think that you know these
people are guilty.

So polygraph them.

Come on, Roger.

You know the polygraph results are
unreliable.

Well, cut through it, Marv.

Do you believe Sandy, yes or no?

Why did he wait ten years?

The woman bent his mind.

She convinced him that he liked what she
was doing to him. She laid guilt on a

four -year -old child. Now, wouldn't you
have kept quiet about that?

Pugliati will scream purge. So what?

Sandy wants to testify against this
woman.

Stand up and help your children tell the
truth, you said.

Are you the one in the end who's going
to end up burying the truth?

All I'm saying, Kendra, is... Is it
going to help?

Is it going to help?

No, not a hell of a lot.

It may kill him to get on that stand and
tell what she did to him.

But it's better than keeping it bottled
up inside of him for the rest of his

life.

Okay, I'll put him on the stand.

Daddy, wake up.

It's so dark.

I know, but now listen.

Sandy said that in the ritual, they made
you use satanic names. You know,

they're special names.

Let me sleep.

Come here, listen.

Susan's name.

What was it?

It's Susan's name.

Mavis was Miss Virgo.

Miss Susan was... I don't remember.

Bear.

All right, Bear. What name did Virgo
call her friend?

She was standing above the altar.

Now, what name did she make you whisper?

Isis.

What are you doing?

I filed a police man in George Roland's
office.

Who's Isis?

You wanted to see me?

I've got a staff meeting in five
minutes.

Don't wait till it's over.

Why wouldn't you tell my secretary what
this is about?

I've got the address of a woman who I
think is sexually abusing kids in your

jurisdiction. We've got procedures in
place for taking child abuse. I've been

through this in Connecticut.

I want to extradite this woman. I can
only do it if I catch her in the act.

I know how.

It's going to work.

What, you go around the country doing
this?

Yeah, I know, they're all cute.

This one's my son.

Sandy, these crimes happened to you ten
years ago.

Are you sure you're not just telling us
about things you heard?

Until last weekend, I never talked to
anyone about this stuff.

Why?

I was ashamed.

That you were forced to have sex with
the Richardsons?

That I never told anyone what went on at
that school.

But you left the Tiny Todd Preschool to
start kindergarten.

Why didn't you tell your parents then?

The Richardsons knew my dad was a police
officer.

Mrs. Richardson said if the police ever
came to the school...

She would have known it had been me.

And I'd have to watch my parents have
their hearts cut out.

Have their hearts cut out?

And you believed them?

I'd seen them kill cats and rabbits that
way.

I knew they'd do it.

Did the Richardsons ever tell you why
they killed animals?

It gave them power to kill things that
were innocent and good.

Sandy, you haven't told us one single
detail that your brother hadn't already

mentioned.

How many sessions with Dr. Billington
did you have?

I've never met Dr. Billington.

Oh, come on.

Sandy.

Altars.

Pentagrams.

Murdered bunnies.

Curved daggers.

Athemase.

What?

They're called athemase. Call Dr.

Billington back and ask her if she knows
what they're called.

These are exactly the same stories Dr.

Billington fed the children.

The rituals didn't change. They happened
to me and my friends.

They happened to other kids ten years
later.

The rituals?

Rituals?

Are you saying that my clients were
involved in something other than what

prosecution has characterized as game
and psychological manipulation?

Your clients are fainting.

They told us. Oh, they're proud of it.

Let me get this straight.

You're saying that my clients are
pedophiles and pimps and

pornographers.

And devil worshippers?

I saw them kill rabbits and pour the
blood over little kids. You can call

anything you want to call them. They
call themselves Satanists. Do you think

this jury will buy that cheap horror
film story?

Is Geraldo going to rush in here now and
interview people with hoods over their

heads? Do you seriously expect this jury
to believe that these two gentle

people, three college degrees between
them, Residents of this community for a

quarter of a century have committed
crimes that we wouldn't believe at a

-in movie.

Sandy.

Sandy.

Who put you up to this?

Your father?

Nobody put me up to anything.

No.

No.

It didn't matter that the prosecution's
case was falling apart.

No, you expect us to believe that last
weekend you just decided to talk

about things that you haven't mentioned
for the last ten years.

They killed my dog.

They threatened my brother.

They told me I enjoyed being raped.

Well, that's not what the lie detector
said.

Your Honor, I move that last remark be
stricken.

Polygraph results are inadmissible.

What about the truth?

Anybody home?

Anything?

Not a thing.

How about you?

I sure like music.

Hey.

How come she's got a record that doesn't
have a turntable?

Are you a pedophile, Mrs. Richardson?

No, sir.

Did you or your husband or any member of
your staff ever have any sort of sexual

relations with any student at the Tiny
Tot preschool?

No, sir.

Then we have a mystery here, don't we?

Why are all these people saying all
these incredible things about you?

Will you tell us why you think this has
happened?

Objection, Your Honor. The counselor is
asking the witness to speculate.

I'll allow the witness to try if she
chooses to put the charges against her

some kind of rational perspective.

Thank you, sir.

Your Honor, my husband and I don't deny
touching those children.

You know, when you're running a nursery
school, you spend a lot of time wiping

running noses or drying tears or putting
on Band -Aids.

Not once has a parent ever accused us of
anything improper.

Until Joss Flossberg developed venereal
disease.

And then what did we do?

Did we behave suspiciously? No.

Did we run?

No.

We voluntarily took medical tests.

And as you know, we all tested negative.

If we're going to do it, let's do it.

No. Yesterday, while you were waiting
for the warrant, I was over here washing

the place.

And what are we waiting for?

The janitor.

While it's going on, he's never more
than 30 feet from that alarm bell.

I don't like the quiet.

Why isn't anybody having recess?

How do we know they're not doing it now?

On April 15, 1987,

Miriam Schlossberg met with Dr. Martha
Billington of the

Children's Therapeutic Institute
Incorporated, a for -profit corporation.

Mrs. Schlossberg told Dr. Billington
that we had molested her son.

to cover up the fact that Mrs.
Stockbridge's lover had actually

And then Dr. Billington convinced those
children, in this

atmosphere of hysteria, whipped up by
the press in a small town,

that we had abused them.

This is a witch hunt.

Unfortunately, the witches only exist in
Dr.

Billington's mind.

What time is it?

12 .30 exactly.

Right on schedule.

Why bother lock the gates? You got it.

Hey, pal.

You got a bathroom I can use?

It's nap time.

We don't disturb the children during nap
time. I'm a police officer. Step back.

Step back!

Police. You're under arrest. Have the
right to remain silent. Drop it.

We're rehearsing a

play.

Miss Larimer, you have testified in
stomach -turning detail about several

instances of child molestation in which
you say my clients were involved.

Now I ask you, did the district attorney
promise you anything in return for this

testimony?

Unconditional immunity from prosecution.

So, you would smear my client, say
anything at all,

in order to get the deal Mr. Bernstein
promised.

Objection, Your Honor.

Argumentative.

Sustained.

I'm telling the truth.

A person like you.

Sure you are.

Objection!

Granted, Mr.

Pugliati, please.

Well, since you're telling the truth,
Miss Larimer, one last question.

The prosecution's last witness testified
about certain occult practices.

Are my clients Satanists?

No, sir.

Nothing further, Your Honor.

I apologize to you for some of the
grisly, unthinkable things that I have

you listen to in this courtroom.

Little children should not be asked how
it feels to be raped or sodomized.

It could have been your children.

Or yours.

It could have been yours.

They could have been mine.

If just listening was painful for us,
think how much more painful it was to

live through the acts that these
children described.

Ladies and gentlemen, I suggest to you
that these 37 children do belong to you.

Those children had the courage to stand
up and tell you the fact.

Now you must have the courage to show
these defendants that decent men and

will not tolerate the kind of behavior
that they have shown.

By your verdict, you can show the
children that they're not alone.

For all of us, believe the children.

Mr. Bernstein, the man who has just put
Susan Larimer, the one self -confessed

child abuser in this case, back on the
street, has just asked you

to believe the children.

Believe the children.

When you've heard them describe day
trips in a van to visit a fat man on the

moon,

Believe the children who talked about
sinister rabbits marching by torchlight

through a Gothic cathedral.

Believe the children who use such
obviously adult words as penis,

vagina, anus.

Believe that these children have vivid
imaginations.

Yes.

Believe they are the unwitting dupes of
a paranoid therapist? Yes.

Believe that they were abused by my
clients? No way.

The law demands that you deliver a not
guilty verdict if you

have even a reasonable doubt as to the
suspect's guilt.

Ladies and gentlemen, no reasonable
person could avoid doubts about some of

things these children have told you.

Accordingly, you have no choice.

You must acquit my clients.

And finally, ladies and gentlemen, bear
in mind as you deliberate that the

defendants are guilty only if you find
them so absolutely, conclusively,

beyond a reasonable doubt.

Take all the time you need.

You may retire.

I don't know, Rog.

Well, come on. What is it? Something on
their faces?

I just think it's going to be hard to
find 12 people who have no reasonable

doubts in a case like this.

I don't know. I'll see you later. Okay.
Thanks.

Maybe they said they'd never go to jail.

Yeah?

Well, even if they do go to jail, Bear,
it won't be for enough years to pay for

what they did.

Then why'd we do it? Because we knew
what they did was wrong.

And we had to say so.

That's right.

You all set?

Yep. Got your lunch?

Yep. You got your pencils?

Is that everything?

You got your baseball club?

Baseball and kindergarten?

Yeah, you think you do arithmetic all
the time?

I'm going to bring it. Oh, well, I guess
you'll have to use this one.

Dad! Thanks!

Okay, partner.

Here,

have fun.

Thanks, Mom.

Bye -bye, honey.

Bye,

honey. Sandy?

Make sure he finds his classroom.

No, Mom, I was going to put him in my
locker.

You

weren't

sure they were going to jail, what did
you tell them?

Dad says they may be out in four years.

Even if I didn't testify, I said someday
they'd come for me.

He said they'd tell me the evil I had to
do.

And did they come for you?

In a way, when they found you.

See, the evil would have been to let
them destroy our family.

Keeping quiet would have meant they
owned us.