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Manly men, men, men
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Men, men, men, men, manly men
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Ooh-hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo, ooh
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Men, men, men, men
Manly men, men, men
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Men, men, men, men
Manly men, men, men
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I worked
with Charlie Sheen for eight years,
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and if you wonder what it's like to work
with Charlie Sheen for eight years, uh,
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when I started, I had hair.
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I had some trepidation
about participating in this,
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partially because
part of the cycle of Charlie's life
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has been, uh, that he messes up terribly,
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he hits rock-bottom,
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and then he gets things, uh,
he gets things going again
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and brings a lot of positivity
in his life,
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and that's when
he burns himself out again,
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and he just can't help
but set that house on fire.
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And I didn't want
to be a part of that cycle.
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I'm not here to build him up
and I'm not here to tear him down.
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But I sure hope this doesn't go bad.
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It seemed
it was going to be like any other flight.
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I wasn't like sloppy drunk,
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but I was already
pretty half in the bag, you know.
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It was my first honeymoon.
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And Donna was--
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I guess she was still reeling
from the absence of romance
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in our soggy freaking wine excursion.
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Platoon and Wall Street
were huge in Japan,
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and so I was selling Madras shoes,
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Tokyo Gas air conditioners and heaters,
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and Parliament cigarettes.
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Donna was the model
in the Parliament commercial.
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Yes, tensions were high.
We were a little short with each other.
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I finally just said, "Fuck it."
I needed something quick and strong.
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So I power probably four, five, six shots.
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Of course, a lot of people recognize me.
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The navigator was outside the cockpit.
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"Mr. Sheen,
would you like to come meet the captain?"
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I'm like, "Hell yeah!" Right?
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I go into the cockpit,
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and the captain gets up
and he says, "Can we get a photo?"
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And I said, "Yes, but it'd be really cool
if I was in your captain's jacket."
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He's like, "Oui, monsieur."
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"It'd even be cooler
if I was wearing your cap."
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He's like, "Of course."
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I said, "If we're gonna do this,
let's go all the way."
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"Can I sit in your seat?"
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But I'm approaching pirate drunk.
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The sun is just starting
to peek through the horizon.
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And just rested my hands on the controls.
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George is flying the plane.
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That's like international code
for autopilot, right?
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And I said, just making a joke, I said,
"So is George still flying the plane?"
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And the copilot flicks a switch…
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…and says, "Not anymore."
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I'm sitting there thinking, "Fuck."
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I'm there, drunk,
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close to 300 people asleep behind me,
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an angry bride 20 feet behind me,
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and I start guiding this plane.
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Very, very subtle adjustments.
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And this just perfect,
magical flying machine
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responding in a way
that I cannot put in words.
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And then they saw that maybe
this might get away from them.
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And the copilot turned George back on.
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And so then I felt the plane just kind of
settle back into where it knew
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that it needed to be, you know.
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I sat back down, owning this experience.
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And I just knew
that trouble was on the horizon.
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After just five months,
Hollywood bad boy Charlie Sheen
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and model Donna Peele
are calling it quits.
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Drunk off your ass…
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Drunk.
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…flying a passenger plane,
400 people behind you,
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are you thinking to yourself,
"Holy shit, I'm untouchable"?
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Does that happen? Does that go through
a guy's mind when he has that power?
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Yes.
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I am sitting in the morning
At the diner on the corner…
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-Know the best about diners?
-What?
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There's no surprises.
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If you walk into a diner
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with unrealistic expectations
of what they have to offer…
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Doo-doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo-doo
Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo
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…go fuck yourself.
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Cheers.
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Are you sober today?
How long have you been sober?
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-I knew you were gonna ask me that.
-Yeah.
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I am sober today.
In my seventh year, which is pretty good.
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But by the time people see this,
unless things go tragically sideways,
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uh, that will still be the case.
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Oh, we're ready to go?
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How do you imagine
structuring the story of Charlie Sheen?
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I think we could break it down…
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…into these three portions
or these three sections.
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It was partying,
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partying with problems…
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Fucking A, man!
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…and then just problems.
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Last time I took drugs, uh,
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I probably took more
than anybody could survive, you know?
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-What are we talking about? How much?
-I don't know.
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I was banging seven-gram rocks
and finishing them. That's how I roll.
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I have one speed, one gear. "Go."
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Charlie Sheen was among
the clients of her $1,500 hookers.
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Is there gonna be anything off-limits?
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No.
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You know there are
a lot of rumors out there right now,
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and you would like
to address them head-on.
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I'm here to admit that I am,
in fact, HIV-positive.
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When you got a lot of shame
about a lot of stuff,
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shame-- shame is suffocating.
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-Your husband's name?
-It's Charlie Sheen.
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But in the same way,
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shame can turn into someone's North Star,
you know, or their South Star.
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Or the Death Star, you know? Um…
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Where are you with that?
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I'm, uh…
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He spent much
of Christmas Day on lockdown.
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The stuff I plan on sharing,
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I had made a sacred vow years ago
to only reveal to a therapist.
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You judged me, condemned me, discarded me.
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Well, not anymore. Winning!
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I think there's so many stories and many
ingrained images in people's minds
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about the concept of me.
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Not even, like, think of me as a person.
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They think of me as a concept
or a specific moment in time.
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There's only one person alive
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that has the answers to…
to so many people's questions about me.
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And that's…
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I can feel no sense of measure
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No illusions as we take
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Refuge in young man's pleasure
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Breaking down the dreams we make
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Real
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Fuck, somebody call "Action."
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One down, one to go
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Another town and one more show
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Downtown, they're givin' away
But she never came back
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I was born dead.
Yeah, I had the umbilical wrapped.
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There was no signs of life.
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Dad was a devout Catholic,
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and he was already looking for a priest
to deliver some last rites.
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Mom was way more optimistic.
She had faith.
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And the doctor beat me black and blue
until there were signs of life.
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So… …good start.
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Leave it
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When your life starts like that,
basically doesn't start,
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it can do a number on your head.
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My birth name is Carlos Irwin Estevez.
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And Irwin came from the doctor
that delivered me and saved me.
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There's four of us.
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I'm third, and Ramon is right above me,
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and Emilio's above him,
and my sister's below me.
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You must believe me.
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-I'm telling the truth.
-Oh, you've lied so much.
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The mission focus was Dad and his job.
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Can you help me?
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I'm gonna get ahold of Frank Kamer,
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have him take a look at you,
run some tests.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Martin Sheen!
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Lived in New York 'til I was three.
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And then Dad, well, he decided early on,
"Sell the furniture, it's time."
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"We're… we're outtie."
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Malibu was very rural at the time,
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and kind of removed from Los Angeles
and all of that hubbub.
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There was a freedom of spirit in the air,
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and the place wasn't overrun,
it wasn't super crowded.
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You could travel the highway
any time of day with relative ease.
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It wasn't a community of mansions.
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I met him before he was Charlie Sheen.
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I met him when he was Carlos Estevez.
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People think that just because it was
Martin Sheen that they grew up very rich.
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That's far from it.
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I used to go to his house and stay in,
what do you call those, beanbags?
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There was nothing extravagant
about what they had.
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They didn't grow up with that life.
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So you had auto mechanics
and school teachers on your street.
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Nothing like today.
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Like I say, it was great because it was
kinda like Huckleberry Finn by the water.
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We shared a moment of youth that's magic.
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Let's go, man.
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We were surrounded by an air
of just a general freedom of expression.
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I mean… they'll hate me
for revealing this, but, you know,
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my parents, maybe for a month,
or five, I don't know,
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they practiced nudism, you know?
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So yeah, I'm five,
walking in the kitchen, and…
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there's my naked parents.
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-What are you doing?
-Mom--
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Cut it out, Mom.
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My parents gave us
our first Super 8 Camera
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when I was six or seven.
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Hey, brother,
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did you guys out there ever try
this new American Continental hairdo, man?
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It's the newest style, man.
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You see, they just take a wet rag, man,
and they rub it through your hair.
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It's like a dinosaur's tail, man.
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It's really weird, man.
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We started instantly with,
"All right, here's how much time we have."
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"Here's our cast. Here's the plot."
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"So-and-so has done
something to this person,
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"and so this guy has to seek revenge."
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I don't wanna know your name
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'Cause you don't look the same
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My brother, Emilio, was always with me.
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The way you did before
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Okay
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The Mighty Ducks!
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You think you got a pretty face
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It was really the only time that he and I
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were focused on a common goal.
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Everything outside of that
was pretty uncommon.
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We had a rivalry that, um,
that went on for a long time.
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Fox on the run
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You scream
And everybody come a-running
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Take a run and hide yourself away
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-Charlie, is there film in there?
-Hell yeah.
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Fuck you.
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And those Super 8 films,
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that was our canvas.
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Being on location with Dad
really became our film school.
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Especially during Apocalypse Now.
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It was just one of those
life-changing experiences, you know?
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My dad made that very clear
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that he wanted us
to be with him in his work.
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He didn't want
the family dynamic to suffer
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just because he had
this job somewhere else.
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And I thought we were incredibly lucky
to be able to go along with.
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So I'm in the Philippines,
on Apocalypse.
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I think I was 11 by then.
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The scope of the production,
the length of the production,
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the exposure to the talent.
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…afraid to say something…
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Written by,
directed by Francis Ford Coppola.
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Our most influential
and important filmmaker,
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the man responsible for The Godfather.
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His current giant film
took three and a half years.
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Your dad was struggling
with substances, right?
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-Yeah.
-That was that story.
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-Yeah.
-Did you know that?
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I sensed it.
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There is a moment, um, in the Philippines
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that is as crystal clear
as though it happened yesterday.
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And we were outdoors at lunch early
at one of the tables, you know?
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I remember Dad
sitting down right next to me.
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I remember I could smell it.
I could smell the booze.
245
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And he wasn't home, he wasn't there.
And he had a Ka-Bar knife.
246
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And he put it between his teeth.
247
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And he turned to me
with that knife between his teeth.
248
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And I was just like…
249
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It was-- He was-- He had departed.
250
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So then I come to find out that that was
in the middle of the opening sequence.
251
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Come back!
252
00:15:18,792 --> 00:15:21,629
He was there
for a couple of months without us,
253
00:15:21,712 --> 00:15:24,798
and then started hearing rumors
that Dad was sick.
254
00:15:25,382 --> 00:15:29,803
Dave Salven let Melissa tell
Barry Hirsch Marty had a heart attack.
255
00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:31,597
What the fuck is that?
256
00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,184
Do you know that's gonna be
all over Hollywood in half an hour?
257
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If Marty dies,
258
00:15:36,894 --> 00:15:41,649
I want to hear that everything's okay
until I say Marty is dead. You got it?
259
00:15:42,316 --> 00:15:47,863
When we came back to the Philippines
and saw him for the first time,
260
00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:50,532
he was taking baby steps on a cane.
261
00:15:50,616 --> 00:15:55,537
And he was crying,
and he was devoid of that dad light.
262
00:15:56,914 --> 00:15:58,457
It was gone, you know?
263
00:15:59,833 --> 00:16:03,253
I had brought baseball gloves.
I was playing baseball at the time.
264
00:16:03,337 --> 00:16:07,508
So we'd go out somewhere on the grounds,
and we'd start throwing the ball.
265
00:16:07,591 --> 00:16:10,719
The first day, it might have been
at five feet for ten throws.
266
00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:12,846
Next day it might've been
at ten feet for 15 throws.
267
00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:14,807
And this went on and on and on
268
00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:20,229
until we were at a decent distance,
and, you know, just playing catch.
269
00:16:20,813 --> 00:16:26,694
He credits me with having a major hand
in helping him during his rehab.
270
00:16:26,777 --> 00:16:30,781
To get his strength back,
his focus back, just get his life back.
271
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Yeah, this fucking mattered.
272
00:16:40,332 --> 00:16:42,584
Yeah, it was, um…
273
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It just redefined that age-old moment
of a father-son playing catch.
274
00:16:50,801 --> 00:16:54,513
But it's hard not to visit that
and not get a little choked up
275
00:16:54,596 --> 00:17:00,602
because I know what it meant to him,
what it still means to him, you know?
276
00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:15,868
I think it's hard for sons to always,
you know, share with their fathers
277
00:17:15,951 --> 00:17:17,745
what's truly in their heart.
278
00:17:18,912 --> 00:17:24,918
I hope he sees some of this
as the love letter to him that it is.
279
00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:28,630
Emilio and Dad, they fully support me.
280
00:17:29,173 --> 00:17:33,260
They're rooting for me
in ways you can't even imagine.
281
00:17:33,802 --> 00:17:37,765
But I can't expect people
to revisit all the drug abuse
282
00:17:37,848 --> 00:17:42,061
and all the shitty choices
that hurt the people I love.
283
00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:51,487
Yeah, would I love them both in this?
Absolutely.
284
00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:55,532
But I completely understand
why they chose not to.
285
00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:58,619
You got me smoking now.
286
00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:03,791
It's your second heart attack, Dad.
287
00:18:04,666 --> 00:18:06,376
I guess I never told you.
288
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:09,171
But I love you, Dad.
289
00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:17,971
We kept making Super 8 films
back on the ranch.
290
00:18:19,264 --> 00:18:21,016
What are you doing?
291
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:23,894
And after Apocalypse,
the Super 8's got way darker.
292
00:18:23,977 --> 00:18:25,771
A lot of murder in your movies.
293
00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:34,363
Look what was happening to our dad.
294
00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:42,913
We were basically duplicating,
emulating what Dad was doing.
295
00:18:44,873 --> 00:18:46,750
I was five and he was six
296
00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:50,129
We rode on horses make of sticks
297
00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:52,923
He wore black and I wore white
298
00:18:53,006 --> 00:18:55,467
He would always win the fight
299
00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:58,178
Bang bang, he shot me down
300
00:18:58,262 --> 00:19:01,223
Bang bang, I hit the ground
301
00:19:01,306 --> 00:19:04,101
Bang bang, that awful sound
302
00:19:04,184 --> 00:19:08,939
Bang bang, my baby shot me down
303
00:19:09,022 --> 00:19:12,192
We got, I don't want to say numbed,
304
00:19:12,276 --> 00:19:17,656
but we kind of grew accustomed
to watching our father die on film.
305
00:19:21,034 --> 00:19:22,411
Oh my God!
306
00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:26,248
But I think we recognized early on,
307
00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:28,041
those types of plot lines were compelling.
308
00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:30,544
No!
309
00:19:30,627 --> 00:19:34,214
What you are seeing here
is a man in great pain,
310
00:19:34,298 --> 00:19:36,800
beaten by the Mob and dying.
311
00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:41,054
If you decide to do it,
I got to know by tonight.
312
00:19:41,138 --> 00:19:43,557
-What about the money?
-Money's no problem.
313
00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:47,102
Martin was a big thing for all of us.
314
00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:50,397
-Don't you have anything better to do?
-I wanted to…
315
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,440
Do you have to push?
316
00:19:51,523 --> 00:19:55,736
I know whose dog that is.
I know what you did to my little brother.
317
00:19:55,819 --> 00:19:57,029
Son of a bitch!
318
00:19:57,112 --> 00:20:00,157
I'm doing nothing, man.
I'm here and I'm doing nothing.
319
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,784
-So it's a little boring. I mean--
-It's a lot boring.
320
00:20:07,664 --> 00:20:14,046
So I guess it felt like
we were close to the actual world of it.
321
00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:29,269
It's important to note that in and around
a lot of the Super 8 film productions…
322
00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,233
…there was a lot of weed involved.
323
00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:37,694
So that was really the first drug.
There was a lot of pot.
324
00:20:40,739 --> 00:20:43,784
Drugs played a large role in it
as they got older
325
00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:47,996
and started experimenting
with, uh… everything.
326
00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:55,420
Well, it's weird,
I drank the stuff, and I just…
327
00:20:55,504 --> 00:20:57,464
I can't seem to remember
what happened next.
328
00:20:57,547 --> 00:21:01,343
But yeah, and you know,
just the typical booze habits
329
00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:04,638
that kids that age would have.
330
00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:08,141
I think my first drink
was a Mickey's Big Mouth. Remember those?
331
00:21:09,434 --> 00:21:13,730
Yeah, I downed like two of them,
thinking this is how it's done, you know,
332
00:21:13,814 --> 00:21:16,275
and then spent the next hour puking.
333
00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:22,030
And then I guess the normal person
parks it and says, "That didn't work out."
334
00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,825
The abnormal person says,
335
00:21:24,908 --> 00:21:29,621
"I'm feeling good enough to try again,
hopefully with a better result," you know.
336
00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:33,083
You have this other friend in Tony Todd,
337
00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:34,751
who had nothing to do with that, right?
338
00:21:34,835 --> 00:21:36,003
No, none of it.
339
00:21:36,086 --> 00:21:38,046
Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo
340
00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,883
Tony's one of my favorite people ever.
One of my best friends in this lifetime.
341
00:21:42,634 --> 00:21:48,056
He's as reliable and compassionate
and loyal and committed
342
00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:51,018
as anyone could ever ask for, you know?
343
00:21:51,101 --> 00:21:53,228
Well, every person
needs a Black friend, so…
344
00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,689
I'm just kidding. But I think they do.
345
00:21:55,772 --> 00:21:58,817
What brought us together
was our passion for sports.
346
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,236
He's very competitive. I'm competitive.
347
00:22:01,737 --> 00:22:04,448
Tony's never done a drug in his life.
348
00:22:04,531 --> 00:22:07,576
I think he's had a sip of one drink.
349
00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:09,745
Never had a drink with him.
350
00:22:09,828 --> 00:22:12,122
I'm just there for him
because I'm a friend.
351
00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:15,500
-He's been the most consistent.
-In your whole…?
352
00:22:15,584 --> 00:22:19,546
Yeah, he's touched
every decade, every era, every…
353
00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:21,548
All of it, you know?
354
00:22:21,631 --> 00:22:25,802
Now, we want you to sort of go
up to the car like that, weave through.
355
00:22:25,886 --> 00:22:28,180
I would think that
we're going to be up high.
356
00:22:28,263 --> 00:22:30,932
Emilio Estevez
doesn't normally ride motorcycles,
357
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:34,019
so he's listening very carefully
to stunt coordinator Nate Long.
358
00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:36,980
This is Emilio's first major acting job,
359
00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:39,441
but he is no newcomer
to the movie business.
360
00:22:39,524 --> 00:22:43,445
If you look closely, he bears
a good resemblance to Martin Sheen,
361
00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:45,489
one of Hollywood's
most sought-after actors
362
00:22:45,572 --> 00:22:47,157
and star of Apocalypse Now.
363
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,620
He uses his real name and keeps it
a good secret about his famous father.
364
00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:55,999
Emilio and Dad had a huge fight
about Emilio using Sheen or Estevez,
365
00:22:56,083 --> 00:23:00,337
and Dad wishing he'd stayed with Estevez
to honor his heritage, that good stuff.
366
00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:04,800
And then Emilio said, "Okay, there is
a better ring to Emilio and Estevez."
367
00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:07,094
Emilio Sheen didn't have a flow, you know?
368
00:23:08,178 --> 00:23:11,098
It was a house on fire for him, man.
It was…
369
00:23:11,181 --> 00:23:15,435
He had opportunities that none of us
had even imagined before that.
370
00:23:17,854 --> 00:23:18,980
I beat you!
371
00:23:20,649 --> 00:23:24,403
Emilio pulled the focus quite a lot,
and he deserved it.
372
00:23:24,486 --> 00:23:26,405
I don't know if that inspired Charlie.
373
00:23:27,322 --> 00:23:29,366
But I think he did see that,
374
00:23:29,449 --> 00:23:31,993
"Maybe that's something
that's available to me too."
375
00:23:32,077 --> 00:23:38,041
He'd done legitimate work,
he has this dough, and now he has freedom.
376
00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:42,170
The prom king of Santa Monica High School.
Please welcome Emilio Estevez.
377
00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:47,759
I get it. I see all the girls.
All the fun. I see all the excitement.
378
00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:50,470
And that was intoxicating.
379
00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:53,807
You know,
I couldn't have been more jealous.
380
00:23:54,641 --> 00:23:57,436
High school for me, yeah, that was a mess.
381
00:23:57,519 --> 00:23:58,937
But I may hold the record.
382
00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:00,981
I have an attendance record
383
00:24:01,064 --> 00:24:06,361
of somewhere
in the 30 percentile range and a GPA…
384
00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,530
I think it's like a 1.2.
385
00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:09,865
Oh, yeah.
386
00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:12,659
Charlie didn't graduate from high school.
387
00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:19,416
And then his dad was on his case about,
"You've got to get out and get a job."
388
00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:20,625
All right, fine.
389
00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:24,629
So I told my parents, I said,
"Look, let me explore the acting thing."
390
00:24:24,713 --> 00:24:27,215
"Let me audition this first summer.
Let me do this."
391
00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:29,301
"Look what Emilio
and his friends are doing."
392
00:24:29,384 --> 00:24:31,219
You dick!
393
00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:36,475
"And if it shits out,
then I will figure out a way to, you know,
394
00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:41,980
get a GED or something, and I'll go on
to a university and I'll study film."
395
00:24:42,063 --> 00:24:44,774
"I'll become an editor
or a cinematographer
396
00:24:44,858 --> 00:24:46,818
or a freaking… Something."
397
00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:49,237
They were like, "Okay, deal."
398
00:24:49,821 --> 00:24:53,158
So I was Charlie Estevez
all the way through high school.
399
00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:57,287
But personal disappointments,
you know, school, girls…
400
00:24:57,370 --> 00:25:01,166
Yeah, it just-- It felt like
it was time to clean that slate
401
00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:06,046
and start moving forward
with a different… identity.
402
00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:08,924
And so I went to Pop and I said,
403
00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:13,929
"I think that someone needs
to carry the name on," you know.
404
00:25:14,429 --> 00:25:15,347
And then I said,
405
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:19,601
"I think Charlie Sheen just, you know,
rolls off the tongue a little easier."
406
00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:21,937
"I can see it in lights, Pop."
407
00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:32,155
It's like, "This is a role for him,
maybe, you know?"
408
00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:36,409
It's-- It's the role of Charlie Sheen.
And, uh, it's a good one.
409
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:41,248
My first summer of auditioning,
410
00:25:42,791 --> 00:25:46,336
I like to say that I got
the first job that I went on.
411
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,756
Oh, my God.
I've got a blister on my big toe.
412
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,551
Backpack… Come on, Tina.
Do me a small favor.
413
00:25:52,634 --> 00:25:53,760
-What?
-Put a lid on it.
414
00:25:53,843 --> 00:25:56,346
Could you tell us
what that movie is and what…
415
00:25:56,429 --> 00:25:57,264
It's shit.
416
00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:02,352
It's called Grizzly II: The Predator.
417
00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:07,607
It's a sequel to Grizzly.
418
00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:12,404
Jesus Christ!
419
00:26:12,487 --> 00:26:15,699
Somebody help me! Somebody help me!
420
00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:24,374
And there's Laura Dern and George Clooney.
421
00:26:24,457 --> 00:26:25,959
Pretty good company, right?
422
00:26:26,042 --> 00:26:28,169
We're in the first scene
as these three campers.
423
00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:30,088
They're dating, and I'm third wheel guy.
424
00:26:30,171 --> 00:26:31,339
Lance…
425
00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:34,175
We shot the film in Budapest.
426
00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:39,514
Right before I left, I had this audition.
That was the biggest project in town.
427
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:40,890
And I fucked it up.
428
00:26:40,974 --> 00:26:42,183
It was a mess.
429
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,894
And the director, he saw it differently.
430
00:26:45,478 --> 00:26:49,899
Because he wanted to know
how fast you can get into karate training.
431
00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:51,985
I'm like, "Okay, for what?"
432
00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:54,779
"One of the hoodlums
on that team of bad guys?"
433
00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:57,532
And they're like,
"No. Danny. For the guy."
434
00:26:58,575 --> 00:27:01,828
I was offered
the lead role in The Karate Kid.
435
00:27:03,330 --> 00:27:05,832
Yeah, so that was a big deal.
436
00:27:07,917 --> 00:27:12,088
This was like a huge moment.
This would've been a star-turning moment.
437
00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:14,924
I said, "I've got to go to Budapest."
438
00:27:15,008 --> 00:27:17,677
I took it to my dad and said,
"Hey, man, I got this thing."
439
00:27:17,761 --> 00:27:21,097
"It's a life-changing opportunity
and so, um…
440
00:27:21,181 --> 00:27:24,726
they want me in karate training,
like, tomorrow."
441
00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:27,395
He said, "Well, there's a problem here."
442
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,482
"You gave this other company your word."
443
00:27:31,232 --> 00:27:34,486
I said, "But it's forgettable.
It's a thing, like eight lines."
444
00:27:34,569 --> 00:27:37,447
He said, "None of that matters.
You gave them your word."
445
00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:42,911
"Your word in this business is going
to carry you further than one big movie."
446
00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:48,875
So we politely told The Karate Kid people,
if they could wait two weeks, I'm all in.
447
00:27:48,958 --> 00:27:50,126
They said they couldn't.
448
00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:52,379
They said they couldn't.
449
00:27:53,254 --> 00:27:54,798
So that-- that went away.
450
00:27:55,298 --> 00:27:56,800
Ralph Macchio.
451
00:27:56,883 --> 00:27:58,093
-Got it.
-Correct?
452
00:27:58,176 --> 00:27:59,010
Perfect.
453
00:27:59,094 --> 00:28:00,804
And I had to sit with that.
454
00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:03,431
But it was
The Karate Kid in 1984
455
00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,850
that turned Ralph Macchio into a star.
456
00:28:06,476 --> 00:28:08,395
It also turned him into a teen idol,
457
00:28:08,478 --> 00:28:10,980
gracing every cover
of the top teen magazines.
458
00:28:11,564 --> 00:28:14,984
You know, it--
it goes like that sometimes.
459
00:28:15,068 --> 00:28:16,528
It was-- It sucked.
460
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:22,409
And in that moment, tell me
about your mindset towards your dad.
461
00:28:22,909 --> 00:28:24,703
I was pissed. I was pissed.
462
00:28:24,786 --> 00:28:27,747
I thought I was terribly misled.
463
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,542
So what if you're wrong?
464
00:28:30,625 --> 00:28:32,752
What if one day
the sun didn't rise in the east,
465
00:28:32,836 --> 00:28:36,339
the birds didn't fly south for the winter,
and for once, your compass was off?
466
00:28:36,423 --> 00:28:37,924
How about now?
467
00:28:38,007 --> 00:28:39,884
-Not one bit.
-Do you feel…?
468
00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:40,969
Not one bit. Yeah.
469
00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:46,099
Yeah, it went on to burn down the world
and spawn, what, five sequels or whatever.
470
00:28:46,182 --> 00:28:48,643
And he probably made $20 million.
471
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:53,022
However, I don't know
that it necessarily, um,
472
00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:59,028
opened up a lot of doors to maybe
other stuff that he was passionate about.
473
00:28:59,112 --> 00:29:02,741
I don't want to say I dodged a bullet.
Maybe I dodged a back kick.
474
00:29:05,326 --> 00:29:07,746
An interesting thing that happened
around that time,
475
00:29:08,663 --> 00:29:09,914
he becomes a dad.
476
00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:15,336
There's probably people
who don't know you have daughters or sons…
477
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:18,256
Yeah, no, I have, uh… I have five…
478
00:29:18,339 --> 00:29:19,382
I'm sorry.
479
00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:23,386
I have five children
and, uh, three granddaughters.
480
00:29:24,345 --> 00:29:26,055
Cassandra, my first child,
481
00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:30,977
will be 40 this year, which is…
482
00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:31,895
You know.
483
00:29:32,479 --> 00:29:35,940
At the time,
I didn't feel like I was ready for that.
484
00:29:36,816 --> 00:29:40,361
And that contribution was
a whole other energy for our family,
485
00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:42,155
that now he had a daughter.
486
00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:45,325
And my niece's mom was also very young.
487
00:29:45,408 --> 00:29:50,163
And my parents
helped raise her, um, a lot.
488
00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:56,044
The stakes had risen to a place
that I was ill-equipped to navigate.
489
00:29:56,544 --> 00:30:01,257
But being aware of… that there was a lot
of love in the room, a lot of support.
490
00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:05,970
And I'm thinking,
"It's time to focus my sights forward."
491
00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:08,598
If there's a Hollywood director
who has a creative finger
492
00:30:08,681 --> 00:30:11,351
on the pulse of today's high school kids,
it's John Hughes.
493
00:30:11,434 --> 00:30:13,436
With Sixteen Candles
and The Breakfast Club,
494
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,438
he endeared himself to the teen crowd.
495
00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:19,609
I think he's very honest. He doesn't try
to show us for something that we're not.
496
00:30:19,692 --> 00:30:20,819
Rolling.
497
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:23,947
One day, I get this strange phone call
498
00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:26,783
from Jennifer Grey, who was a friend.
499
00:30:27,575 --> 00:30:29,536
I told you I was telling the truth, Daddy.
500
00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:34,457
She says, "I'm doing this big movie,"
which was Ferris Bueller's Day Off, right?
501
00:30:34,541 --> 00:30:36,835
"We're filming in Long Beach.
You should come down,
502
00:30:36,918 --> 00:30:38,670
and I recommended you to John Hughes."
503
00:30:38,753 --> 00:30:42,340
"It's only one scene or two scenes,
but they're both pretty memorable."
504
00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:44,008
"They're both with me."
505
00:30:44,092 --> 00:30:46,511
I'm like, "What?
Who is this guy? What's the scene?"
506
00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:49,597
She's like, "Don't worry.
Just read it, prepare as best as you can,
507
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,057
and get your ass down there."
508
00:30:52,475 --> 00:30:56,521
So Ramon was going through
this punk rock phase, right?
509
00:30:56,604 --> 00:30:58,565
He had a leather jacket
I wanted to borrow.
510
00:30:58,648 --> 00:31:00,400
He was a smoker at the time.
511
00:31:00,483 --> 00:31:05,530
So I dug into his ashtray
and darkened my eyes with cigarette ash.
512
00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:09,868
Jennifer greets me,
513
00:31:09,951 --> 00:31:12,203
and Matthew Broderick
comes out of his trailer,
514
00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:14,706
and she introduces us just at a distance.
515
00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:20,545
So it's literally Hughes now
walking across the parking lot.
516
00:31:20,628 --> 00:31:23,756
I got the sides, the jacket, the thing.
I got the hair going on.
517
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,884
I'm like,
"Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Hughes."
518
00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:27,927
And he's like, "Wow, look at you."
519
00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:30,889
"You look great, kid.
Uh, see you next week."
520
00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:35,518
I'm like, "Yeah, see you next week."
521
00:31:35,602 --> 00:31:38,605
Jennifer's like, "Good job!"
I'm like, "What the fuck did I do?"
522
00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:40,356
"All I did was get out of my car."
523
00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:44,569
So I got this gig.
But this other opportunity arises.
524
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:51,618
And this kind of just dropped in our laps.
525
00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:55,872
Martin and Charlie Sheen are going
to take on the great Michael Jordan,
526
00:31:55,955 --> 00:31:57,248
the great basketball player.
527
00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:00,877
Dad's publicist
was tight with Dick Van Patten.
528
00:32:01,461 --> 00:32:06,049
Dick was hosting this sports-themed show
called War of the Stars.
529
00:32:06,132 --> 00:32:08,635
It pitted actors against athletes.
530
00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:10,470
Do you have any tactics?
531
00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:13,473
Uh, just primarily to score,
if at all possible.
532
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:19,896
So the day of this event,
and I've got the sides, and I say,
533
00:32:19,979 --> 00:32:24,317
"Dad, can we work on the scene in the limo
on the way down to playing Jordan?"
534
00:32:25,026 --> 00:32:27,195
He says, "Yeah. Okay, what do you got?"
535
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:30,782
"So you're pissed off 'cause he ditches
and doesn't get caught. Is that it?"
536
00:32:30,865 --> 00:32:32,241
So we read it once.
537
00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:34,953
"You ought to spend more
dealing with yourself."
538
00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:37,747
"A little less time worrying
about what your brother does."
539
00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:41,084
He says, "Okay, all right, you got it."
540
00:32:41,167 --> 00:32:43,127
I'm like, "Yeah, but I don't know it."
541
00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:49,509
He says, "No, exactly what you just did
is what you need to do when you film it."
542
00:32:49,592 --> 00:32:51,719
I said, "But I did nothing."
He says, "Exactly."
543
00:32:53,179 --> 00:32:55,723
There's no acting today.
It's all for real.
544
00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:58,851
A high school gymnasium,
545
00:32:58,935 --> 00:33:02,438
the bleachers are filled
with kids that go to that school.
546
00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:07,568
The competition, it was broken down
into three sections, and it's free throws,
547
00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:09,904
it's a game of HORSE,
and it's a two-on-one.
548
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,782
Dad and I can shoot free throws.
We're not worried about that.
549
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,575
We're good from the stripe.
550
00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:18,121
The HORSE game, we figured, that's him.
We don't have a shot there.
551
00:33:18,204 --> 00:33:20,540
He's gonna do things
we've never seen before, right?
552
00:33:20,623 --> 00:33:23,001
But two-on-one.
553
00:33:23,084 --> 00:33:25,628
He cannot guard
two people at the same time.
554
00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:27,130
We've got to spread the floor.
555
00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:30,508
We've got to come together
and show this dude what we're made of.
556
00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:33,803
I missed the first shot.
557
00:33:34,303 --> 00:33:35,346
A miss.
558
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:38,307
But the universe that day had some give.
559
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,977
Woo!
560
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:43,938
Right on. Two for three for Charlie Sheen.
561
00:33:44,022 --> 00:33:46,733
The young girls here really like Charlie.
562
00:33:46,816 --> 00:33:49,235
And he's putting on a good show for them.
563
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:53,114
Then I proceed to hit eight in a row.
564
00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:54,407
Perfect!
565
00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:59,120
I guess the detail that I omitted
is he had to shoot with his eyes closed.
566
00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:03,541
But come on,
we've got to introduce handicaps.
567
00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:05,918
He needs just one more.
568
00:34:08,296 --> 00:34:09,756
And he does it!
569
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:13,092
Martin and Charlie Sheen
defeat Michael Jordan in foul shooting
570
00:34:13,176 --> 00:34:15,845
to take a one-nothing lead
in their three-contest match.
571
00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:20,099
So the next section was a game of HORSE.
572
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:25,146
Jordan steps up to half-court,
and as though he's shooting a free throw,
573
00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:28,274
just… nothing but net.
574
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,736
And Dad…
575
00:34:39,660 --> 00:34:40,953
…nails it.
576
00:34:44,999 --> 00:34:47,293
That was that moment when you know
577
00:34:47,376 --> 00:34:50,880
there's something
bigger than us in the mix here.
578
00:34:50,963 --> 00:34:52,632
Charlie with the rebound.
579
00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:53,925
Out to Martin.
580
00:34:54,008 --> 00:34:56,094
Baseline, left to Charlie.
581
00:34:56,177 --> 00:35:00,681
It's good! And look at Charlie Sheen.
Is he ever happy?
582
00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,850
That's it, folks.
The Sheens are victorious.
583
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,977
Ten to five is the final score.
584
00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,272
It's like trying to process,
585
00:35:08,856 --> 00:35:14,070
"I just made a basket
being defended by Michael Jordan."
586
00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:20,409
The whole ride back home
felt like a magic carpet.
587
00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:22,662
It was intensely surreal.
588
00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,249
And the story with Michael
does not end there.
589
00:35:26,332 --> 00:35:28,417
He becomes a bit of a through line.
590
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:31,170
Now I got a few days to get ready
591
00:35:31,254 --> 00:35:35,800
for my big cameo
in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
592
00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:40,555
And the night before,
I'm trying to figure out who this guy is.
593
00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:43,099
He seems like he's
from the other side of the tracks.
594
00:35:43,182 --> 00:35:45,393
So I'm going to stay up late.
595
00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:50,481
I just figure if I show up looking tired,
that that's going to be an asset.
596
00:35:50,565 --> 00:35:54,527
"I know what's wrong.
I just want to hear you say it."
597
00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:55,862
There was no booze, no dope,
598
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,698
nothing involved in that night
preparing for this.
599
00:35:58,781 --> 00:36:01,325
"You ought to spend more time
dealing with yourself."
600
00:36:01,409 --> 00:36:03,619
"Less time worrying
about what your brother does."
601
00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:08,499
This was just purely organic
method approach, you know.
602
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,127
"I need to look tired,
so I'm gonna be tired."
603
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,713
My call time down there
was like 6:00 a.m.,
604
00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:16,340
and I set my alarm for 4:30.
605
00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:18,676
I was going to leave at 5:00,
give myself an hour.
606
00:36:18,759 --> 00:36:22,263
And I did that stupid thing
where the alarm went off
607
00:36:22,346 --> 00:36:25,141
and I was like,
"I'll just grab that extra ten minutes."
608
00:36:26,142 --> 00:36:29,395
And that extra ten minutes
turned into an extra hour and a half.
609
00:36:29,478 --> 00:36:33,232
The next time I saw the clock,
it was 6:30, and I'm in a fucking panic.
610
00:36:36,777 --> 00:36:40,198
So, there were no cell phones.
You couldn't really let anybody know.
611
00:36:40,281 --> 00:36:42,533
They're all there, like,
"What happened to dude?"
612
00:36:42,617 --> 00:36:47,079
And I finally get down there.
It's probably like 7:00-7:15.
613
00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:49,457
And there's Jennifer Grey, man.
614
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:54,295
And she's pacing. She's back and forth.
615
00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:58,382
I pull up, and I kinda get out
of my car and sheepishly approach her.
616
00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:01,719
She fucking lays into me, man.
"What is wrong with you?"
617
00:37:01,802 --> 00:37:04,847
"I go out on a fucking limb
to create this opportunity for you,
618
00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:06,307
and you do this."
619
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:08,684
So I go through makeup,
I go through wardrobe.
620
00:37:08,768 --> 00:37:10,353
And I finally get to the set.
621
00:37:10,436 --> 00:37:13,314
I'm expecting
a dressing down from him as well.
622
00:37:13,397 --> 00:37:14,523
And he looks at me.
623
00:37:14,607 --> 00:37:19,028
He says, "Okay, good, you're here.
Let's get started."
624
00:37:19,528 --> 00:37:23,866
Did that give you any kind of, like,
"I can do this and get away with things"?
625
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:25,451
Maybe subconsciously.
626
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:30,665
We rehearsed it a couple times,
and he just started rolling camera.
627
00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:31,791
And action.
628
00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:34,961
I got very little direction that day.
629
00:37:35,544 --> 00:37:37,838
I had this thing
where I used to crack my knuckles.
630
00:37:39,507 --> 00:37:42,718
He had a couple cameras on the scene,
and his guy drifted down to that.
631
00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:43,761
That's in the movie.
632
00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:47,223
I think I came close to honoring
633
00:37:47,306 --> 00:37:50,017
what Dad recommended
to the approach to the scene.
634
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:53,479
So you're pissed off because he ditches
and doesn't get caught. Is that it?
635
00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:58,693
-Basically.
-Basically.
636
00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:01,362
Then your problem is you.
637
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,364
Excuse me?
638
00:38:03,447 --> 00:38:04,657
Excuse you.
639
00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:07,910
You ought to spend
more time dealing with yourself.
640
00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:10,162
Less time worrying
about what your brother does.
641
00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:15,960
And that scene turned into a thing
642
00:38:16,043 --> 00:38:22,550
that I couldn't have possibly
anticipated, expected, or predicted.
643
00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:25,094
You ever held another job before?
644
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:28,431
Yeah, some trash in the city.
645
00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:31,934
And you lost that one?
646
00:38:32,768 --> 00:38:34,437
I wouldn't be here if I hadn't.
647
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,481
I think if you look at Charlie's movies,
648
00:38:37,565 --> 00:38:44,322
there's been kind of a connecting thread
to thematics and environments
649
00:38:44,405 --> 00:38:48,326
that were the movies
they grew up watching their father shoot.
650
00:38:53,247 --> 00:38:56,083
Ferris Bueller is running now.
It is so funny.
651
00:38:56,167 --> 00:39:00,212
I wait for that scene when you come on,
it is the best thing in the film.
652
00:39:00,296 --> 00:39:01,339
-Thank you.
-So funny.
653
00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:03,507
I don't know about that,
but I appreciate that.
654
00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:05,134
Everybody loved the movie overall.
655
00:39:05,217 --> 00:39:07,553
One lady in particular,
I can't remember her name…
656
00:39:07,636 --> 00:39:12,516
But at the very end of the review,
she says something like,
657
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,979
"Special attention needs to be made
for Charlie Sheen in his one scene."
658
00:39:17,063 --> 00:39:22,777
And then her one line was,
"He smolders, no joke."
659
00:39:24,779 --> 00:39:26,113
And I thought, "Huh."
660
00:39:26,781 --> 00:39:32,620
Yeah, I'm on-screen for,
I don't know, three minutes, four.
661
00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:36,207
And the whole world suddenly goes,
"He's the fucking guy."
662
00:39:36,290 --> 00:39:39,085
And imagine what that did to my head.
663
00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:44,298
I remember I had no awareness
that Charlie was developing such a career.
664
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:49,011
And then I was at one of these
family holidays at my parents' house,
665
00:39:49,095 --> 00:39:53,349
and there was Charlie,
a foot taller, chiseled jaw.
666
00:39:53,432 --> 00:39:57,019
He looked like a baby version
of George Washington when he was a kid.
667
00:39:57,103 --> 00:39:59,814
You know, a little blimpy, you know, face.
668
00:39:59,897 --> 00:40:05,069
And here he was, this handsome,
tall young man who was starring in movies.
669
00:40:05,152 --> 00:40:07,154
I thought, "Wow, isn't it great?"
670
00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:09,782
You know, to see someone
you knew in your childhood
671
00:40:09,865 --> 00:40:14,662
finding a big zone of expression
and having so much to offer it.
672
00:40:14,745 --> 00:40:16,664
-You're about 21?
-I am 21, yeah.
673
00:40:16,747 --> 00:40:20,918
People your age, do they know much
about Vietnam in your own experience?
674
00:40:21,001 --> 00:40:24,213
Yeah, uh… to a certain extent,
675
00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:28,175
what they… teach you
in history in high school.
676
00:40:28,884 --> 00:40:33,055
I had auditioned for Platoon,
and it was a train wreck.
677
00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:37,393
And then Platoon
was greenlit shortly after that.
678
00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:41,397
And Emilio was going
to be playing the lead role.
679
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,940
Then they lost their financing.
680
00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:45,025
And the director, Oliver Stone,
681
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:48,404
decided just
to put the brakes on for a minute.
682
00:40:48,487 --> 00:40:49,864
Then it came back around,
683
00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:55,995
and that's when Oliver asked me
to come back and do a second audition.
684
00:40:56,078 --> 00:40:58,581
Did you have a moment
with your brother about this?
685
00:40:58,664 --> 00:41:01,792
It's just the way things had to go.
686
00:41:03,502 --> 00:41:05,212
What's that smirk on your face?
687
00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,923
-There's something here, like…
-It's the way things had to go.
688
00:41:08,007 --> 00:41:09,800
Do you have a sibling rivalry?
689
00:41:09,884 --> 00:41:12,178
As far as film competition,
I think that's all--
690
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:14,680
It's a waste of time.
We're not up for the same parts.
691
00:41:14,763 --> 00:41:16,140
We don't play the same types.
692
00:41:19,643 --> 00:41:22,521
You were on the set when your dad
was shooting Apocalypse Now.
693
00:41:22,605 --> 00:41:24,398
-Right.
-Was this similar?
694
00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:29,487
I was witnessing this Coppola-esque
$40 million production as an 11-year-old.
695
00:41:29,570 --> 00:41:32,406
And now going back, uh,
ten years later to do Platoon,
696
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,743
like, my version,
um, it was kind of scary,
697
00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:39,163
but it was like a strange,
symbolic homecoming for me.
698
00:41:39,246 --> 00:41:41,165
Dance! Dance!
699
00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:46,170
Dance! One-legged motherfucker!
700
00:41:47,254 --> 00:41:50,132
During that shoot,
I was presented with a contract
701
00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:53,385
written on a napkin
in the Philippine jungle from Oliver Stone
702
00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:55,095
to commit to Wall Street.
703
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,599
I said, "I know where Wall Street is.
What's the movie about?"
704
00:41:58,682 --> 00:42:03,854
He said, "It's the story of a young trader
seduced by the promise of quick gains."
705
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:06,232
I'm like,
"Alright, that sounds pretty cool."
706
00:42:06,315 --> 00:42:09,860
Look, Dixon, relax. It's not illegal
to buy stock or to be accurate.
707
00:42:09,944 --> 00:42:12,404
It's not that unusual
to be spot-checked on a big buy.
708
00:42:12,488 --> 00:42:15,741
Say you did your homework and thought
the stock was a sound investment.
709
00:42:16,325 --> 00:42:18,744
The nominees for Best Picture are…
710
00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:20,996
Platoon…
711
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:27,336
I was in New York filming Wall Street,
watching Platoon up for Best Picture,
712
00:42:27,419 --> 00:42:29,088
you know, on a Sunday night.
713
00:42:29,171 --> 00:42:30,422
And the winner is…
714
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:34,176
There's before Platoon
and there's after Platoon.
715
00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:35,261
Platoon.
716
00:42:41,308 --> 00:42:44,895
I mean, Best Picture at 20,
you know what I mean? It's like, uh…
717
00:42:44,979 --> 00:42:46,897
Yeah, it kind of sets the stage.
718
00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:53,529
You know who he is. Charlie Sheen!
719
00:42:54,738 --> 00:42:57,992
Just indescribable opportunities.
720
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:01,787
-The place goes crazy for you, don't they?
-It's a little embarrassing.
721
00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:05,916
He just became a mega superstar.
722
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,001
Wild thing!
723
00:43:07,084 --> 00:43:11,046
It's Charlie Sheen, man.
The hugest star in the world.
724
00:43:13,882 --> 00:43:15,301
Wild thing!
725
00:43:15,384 --> 00:43:18,262
I was on a level that couldn't be touched.
726
00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:25,477
One night, I decide to head out
on the town with a few of my mates,
727
00:43:26,061 --> 00:43:31,400
and we catch wind of this party
in West Hollywood, right?
728
00:43:31,483 --> 00:43:35,112
We get the address, we get there.
I think it's the right spot.
729
00:43:35,195 --> 00:43:38,449
You know, everything
was really dark and back alley-ish.
730
00:43:38,532 --> 00:43:40,451
And I see a guy.
731
00:43:40,534 --> 00:43:46,373
In the cool of the evening
When everything is gettin' kinda groovy
732
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:49,376
And he's talking to this really cute girl.
733
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:52,880
And he keeps saying to the girl,
"What do you think of my watch?"
734
00:43:52,963 --> 00:43:57,051
"How do you like my watch?"
And I recognize the voice, right?
735
00:43:57,551 --> 00:43:59,386
And I'm like, "Nic?"
736
00:44:01,263 --> 00:44:02,640
I lost my hand!
737
00:44:02,723 --> 00:44:07,269
Love is kinda crazy
With a spooky little boy like you
738
00:44:07,353 --> 00:44:08,187
Hey, Birdy.
739
00:44:09,688 --> 00:44:11,482
We got some dancing to do.
740
00:44:12,358 --> 00:44:14,902
Nicolas Cage!
741
00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:20,532
I admired how he's not interested
in anybody's opinion.
742
00:44:20,616 --> 00:44:22,409
He's not looking for anyone's approval.
743
00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:31,126
Our friendship,
that's the symbolic springboard
744
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:35,923
into the next…
…chapter of complete and total chaos.
745
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,346
We bonded in a way
that was about the party,
746
00:44:42,429 --> 00:44:46,725
it was about the excitement,
but was also about respect for each other.
747
00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:48,936
But mostly the partying.
748
00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:53,482
Snorting cocaine and tons of booze.
749
00:44:53,565 --> 00:44:55,150
Poppers. Ecstasy.
750
00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:56,443
That's great.
751
00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:58,904
Just the menu was filled with options.
752
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:01,907
Our gang. And we got the tattoos.
We got the jackets.
753
00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:04,326
We'd go at 100 miles an hour.
754
00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:10,833
We were warped.
And that's what kind of just…
755
00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:13,961
Charlie Sheen,
Hollywood's wildest bachelor.
756
00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:17,339
His scandalous women.
His party nights out with the boys.
757
00:45:17,923 --> 00:45:19,675
The circus that Charlie brang.
758
00:45:19,758 --> 00:45:22,678
Charlie was a different kind
of life at the party.
759
00:45:22,761 --> 00:45:25,889
So good 'cause I got you Woo!
760
00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:28,517
We were like this runaway train.
761
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,936
It's like we were all…
762
00:45:31,019 --> 00:45:33,230
Something was missing.
763
00:45:33,313 --> 00:45:37,359
And by this connection,
suddenly it wasn't.
764
00:45:37,443 --> 00:45:44,283
And, uh, that's a lot of responsibility
to everybody's American knight.
765
00:45:48,287 --> 00:45:51,165
We wound up
on an airplane to San Francisco.
766
00:45:54,418 --> 00:45:56,044
Everybody was high as shit.
767
00:45:57,504 --> 00:45:59,214
And then it happened.
768
00:45:59,923 --> 00:46:03,260
Nic got ahold of the intercom handset.
769
00:46:03,343 --> 00:46:05,387
There was no warm-up.
770
00:46:05,471 --> 00:46:10,476
He launched into,
"This is your captain speaking."
771
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:12,686
"Uh… I'm not…"
772
00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:14,855
"I'm not feeling well."
773
00:46:16,982 --> 00:46:19,693
"I'm losing control of the aircraft."
774
00:46:24,031 --> 00:46:28,368
And we heard this,
and I knew we were instantly in shit city.
775
00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:31,163
He had taken it to a place,
whatever his intentions were,
776
00:46:31,246 --> 00:46:34,124
that just were wildly inappropriate.
777
00:46:34,833 --> 00:46:36,502
And you can hear people screaming,
778
00:46:36,585 --> 00:46:38,670
demanding information
from the flight crew.
779
00:46:38,754 --> 00:46:40,923
-You can't… Good Lord.
-No.
780
00:46:41,006 --> 00:46:45,302
And then when we landed,
the pilot came out and he said,
781
00:46:45,385 --> 00:46:49,306
"Not cool, not f***ing cool."
782
00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:51,600
So we were in big trouble, man.
783
00:46:51,683 --> 00:46:55,145
At which point the door
to the aircraft whooshed open
784
00:46:55,229 --> 00:47:01,068
like a nuclear gateway to a bank vault
to reveal six fully armed police officers.
785
00:47:01,151 --> 00:47:02,319
Oh, buddy.
786
00:47:02,402 --> 00:47:05,197
And what Nic didn't know
787
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,326
is that I had over an ounce of cocaine
taped to the inside of my leg.
788
00:47:09,409 --> 00:47:10,953
And standing there,
789
00:47:11,036 --> 00:47:14,832
sweating and really concerned
about what's going to happen next.
790
00:47:17,584 --> 00:47:20,379
One of the guys
was a big enough fan of mine,
791
00:47:20,462 --> 00:47:24,007
big enough fan of Nic's,
and he just decided to, uh, you know,
792
00:47:24,091 --> 00:47:28,971
"Make sure this doesn't happen again,
young man." Um, and we got through.
793
00:47:29,471 --> 00:47:30,305
You know?
794
00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:33,725
Yet another experience
of the perks of the job.
795
00:47:33,809 --> 00:47:38,063
I guess, yeah. I think anybody else,
that would have been, uh… Phew.
796
00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:42,276
Charlie always managed
to walk a tightrope.
797
00:47:42,359 --> 00:47:46,530
You wanted to like him, um, because
he was really charming and smart
798
00:47:46,613 --> 00:47:49,449
and terrific at what he does as an actor.
799
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:53,954
You know, but also, uh, you know,
there were incidents that you were like,
800
00:47:54,037 --> 00:47:55,038
"Wait, what happened?"
801
00:47:55,122 --> 00:47:58,959
Like, you know, when he shot
Kelly Preston, you know?
802
00:48:01,128 --> 00:48:03,797
Charlie Sheen and Kelly Preston
seem to be a nice couple.
803
00:48:03,881 --> 00:48:06,592
Each is a successful, attractive actor.
804
00:48:06,675 --> 00:48:09,970
Each is upset now
about stories circulating
805
00:48:10,053 --> 00:48:12,723
since Kelly suffered
a gunshot wound earlier this month.
806
00:48:12,806 --> 00:48:15,684
There's nothing better
than talking directly to the source.
807
00:48:15,767 --> 00:48:17,853
And that's exactly what we did.
808
00:48:17,936 --> 00:48:19,605
-No. Sorry.
-We're glad you're okay.
809
00:48:19,688 --> 00:48:22,482
-Thank you.
-Go over it. We've heard so many accounts.
810
00:48:22,566 --> 00:48:25,861
The truth is, it was a complete accident.
It fell, it went off.
811
00:48:25,944 --> 00:48:30,032
Then Kelly said at the time,
"Oh no, that was an accident."
812
00:48:30,115 --> 00:48:35,495
You know? So there's this part of you
that goes, "Okay…" You know? Uh…
813
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:39,958
There's always this tightrope of,
you know, I don't know the whole story.
814
00:48:40,042 --> 00:48:43,128
Is he the guy who he appears to me to be?
815
00:48:43,211 --> 00:48:47,507
Or is there some…
some much darker thing going on?
816
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:03,357
I get invited to my dad's birthday party.
817
00:49:04,066 --> 00:49:05,525
I think Mom called me.
818
00:49:05,609 --> 00:49:08,570
"Dad's got things to do,
so we got to do it early."
819
00:49:10,197 --> 00:49:12,199
She's like, "We're thinking 9:00."
820
00:49:12,699 --> 00:49:15,285
I'm like, "A.M.?" She's like, "Yeah."
821
00:49:15,369 --> 00:49:17,245
I'm like, "Uh… okay."
822
00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:19,665
"What should I get him?"
"He doesn't need anything."
823
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,084
"You know your father.
He'll give it away."
824
00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:31,760
You can hear this car
coming a mile away, right?
825
00:49:31,843 --> 00:49:34,471
And so Mom hears me pull in the driveway.
826
00:49:36,848 --> 00:49:39,226
And she comes out, and she gives me a hug.
827
00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:41,895
She says, "I have to ask you something."
828
00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:43,480
I'm like, "Yeah, anything."
829
00:49:43,563 --> 00:49:45,649
She says, "Are you armed?"
830
00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:49,903
I thought she was joking, right?
831
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:51,655
I said, "No, why would I--?"
832
00:49:51,738 --> 00:49:55,534
"No, Mom, come on. Maybe there's
something in the trunk, but no."
833
00:49:55,617 --> 00:49:58,745
She says, "Okay, good.
I just had to find out, you know?"
834
00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:04,292
So she brings me in the house.
835
00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:09,798
And I'm looking for balloons,
looking for a cake, for funny hats.
836
00:50:09,881 --> 00:50:13,844
I'm looking for something that screams
"birthday party" and there's nothing.
837
00:50:13,927 --> 00:50:16,596
And as I get
kind of coming around the corner,
838
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:22,644
I see the living room has this really
expertly organized circle of people.
839
00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:25,564
And I think I'm recognizing all of them.
840
00:50:26,148 --> 00:50:27,357
But it's a weird mix.
841
00:50:27,441 --> 00:50:32,404
Why would Dad have my seventh-grade
history teacher, Mr. Vincent,
842
00:50:32,487 --> 00:50:37,117
at his birthday party when no one's seen
the guy for, I don't know, 15 years?
843
00:50:37,701 --> 00:50:40,328
There's Bikram Choudhury,
my yoga instructor.
844
00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:43,415
Rob Lowe is there.
Okay, there's a familiar face.
845
00:50:43,498 --> 00:50:47,335
And then Emilio and Renée,
Ramon, my parents.
846
00:50:47,419 --> 00:50:49,880
And this fucking guy.
I think his name was Jim.
847
00:50:50,756 --> 00:50:53,425
And there's one chair that's open.
848
00:50:54,843 --> 00:50:59,639
And this guy named Jim says, uh,
"Welcome, please be seated."
849
00:51:00,515 --> 00:51:04,061
I was never involved
in any of those, uh, interventions.
850
00:51:04,144 --> 00:51:07,773
And, you know, I was not, you know,
851
00:51:07,856 --> 00:51:11,234
walking a perfect trail of my own
in some regards.
852
00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:12,486
And…
853
00:51:13,361 --> 00:51:17,074
I haven't said a fucking word,
because there's a lot to process.
854
00:51:17,157 --> 00:51:19,367
I'd kind of heard about these things,
855
00:51:19,451 --> 00:51:22,162
but never been
this close to an intervention.
856
00:51:22,245 --> 00:51:24,039
And they go around the room.
857
00:51:24,915 --> 00:51:27,667
They've all got something written,
and it's very emotional.
858
00:51:27,751 --> 00:51:33,590
I said, "Uh, is this a situation where now
I'm given some time to think about this?"
859
00:51:34,716 --> 00:51:39,721
They said, "No. This is a decision we've
made for you that has to happen today."
860
00:51:40,806 --> 00:51:42,557
What you have just seen
861
00:51:42,641 --> 00:51:46,728
is a good lesson in what not to do
in a situation of this nature.
862
00:51:46,812 --> 00:51:50,482
Who can tell me what they did wrong?
Come on, come on, you know.
863
00:51:50,565 --> 00:51:53,235
Charlie had the audacity
to be pissed about that.
864
00:51:53,318 --> 00:51:56,029
I don't know if he told you.
He was mad that all these people
865
00:51:56,113 --> 00:51:58,532
were trying to tell him
what to do with his life.
866
00:51:58,615 --> 00:52:00,450
Why? Huh?
867
00:52:00,534 --> 00:52:02,994
Nothing more than a complete
and total pain in my ass!
868
00:52:03,078 --> 00:52:04,788
Feeling is mutual, son.
869
00:52:06,164 --> 00:52:09,126
You can tell someone
until they're blue in the face.
870
00:52:09,209 --> 00:52:11,711
I don't care if it's your mom,
your dad, whoever.
871
00:52:11,795 --> 00:52:16,091
Until you decide to make that decision,
it's not going to happen.
872
00:52:16,174 --> 00:52:20,387
And I was figuring,
"All right, if I just agree to this,
873
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:22,806
just to get out of this situation,
874
00:52:22,889 --> 00:52:26,434
I can probably hatch a plan
somewhere away from here."
875
00:52:27,144 --> 00:52:30,897
Dad goes in the office,
and he sticks his head back out the door,
876
00:52:30,981 --> 00:52:33,400
and says, "Someone on the phone
wants to talk to you."
877
00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,735
I thought it'd be a family member.
878
00:52:35,819 --> 00:52:37,237
And I'm like, "Hello?"
879
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,489
And it's a very recognizable,
880
00:52:39,573 --> 00:52:42,742
very globally familiar voice.
881
00:52:43,243 --> 00:52:44,494
And it's Clint.
882
00:52:45,036 --> 00:52:47,080
I ain't going to lose this one.
883
00:52:47,164 --> 00:52:51,793
Now you can either stand out of my way,
or you can be my partner and back me up.
884
00:52:52,836 --> 00:52:55,380
He said something
to the effect of, you know,
885
00:52:55,463 --> 00:52:58,550
"You got to get the train
back on the tracks, kid."
886
00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:03,180
You know. He said,
"You're, uh, you're worth saving."
887
00:53:05,932 --> 00:53:07,642
Yeah, it was really powerful.
888
00:53:07,726 --> 00:53:10,103
And I thanked him
and gave the phone back to Dad,
889
00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:12,022
and said, "All right, let's go."
890
00:53:14,024 --> 00:53:16,735
We were in a car on the way down to rehab.
891
00:53:16,818 --> 00:53:20,363
Dad driving, Mom in the front,
a couple of people on either side of me.
892
00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:23,617
I was in a people sandwich
893
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:28,079
because they knew at the first red light
I was probably gonna be that guy.
894
00:53:29,247 --> 00:53:33,043
The intervention was inconvenient because
later on that night or the next morning,
895
00:53:34,794 --> 00:53:39,799
Nic Cage and the rest of our gang
were scheduled to be honorary judges
896
00:53:39,883 --> 00:53:44,012
at a Hawaiian Tropic
bikini contest in Palm Springs.
897
00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:47,182
So I'm in a pickle.
I got the whole crew on standby
898
00:53:47,265 --> 00:53:51,061
to make this move down there,
and I'm stuck in this intervention.
899
00:53:51,895 --> 00:53:53,772
I'm thinking, "What does it matter
900
00:53:53,855 --> 00:53:57,817
if I get sober, like,
that day or a day from then?"
901
00:54:01,738 --> 00:54:03,365
There's a night nurse.
902
00:54:03,865 --> 00:54:07,869
It was this Black gal in her 40s.
She was all business, you know.
903
00:54:07,953 --> 00:54:12,040
I told her, I said,
"I'm not bound by law to be here."
904
00:54:12,123 --> 00:54:14,626
"I got this thing with my buddies
down in the desert,
905
00:54:14,709 --> 00:54:17,504
and I will come
walking back into this facility
906
00:54:17,587 --> 00:54:20,257
tomorrow morning at 8:00 a.m.,
907
00:54:20,966 --> 00:54:24,219
or I will give you a million dollars."
908
00:54:25,553 --> 00:54:26,972
And she took it in.
909
00:54:27,055 --> 00:54:28,348
She took it in.
910
00:54:28,848 --> 00:54:31,017
And she just said, "Deal."
911
00:54:31,726 --> 00:54:37,023
Thinking, she's probably looking
at the better end of the stick, right?
912
00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:39,109
I put a spell on you
913
00:54:40,026 --> 00:54:42,070
And so there's a pay phone,
914
00:54:42,153 --> 00:54:44,781
and I'm able to kind of
get word to the guys.
915
00:54:44,864 --> 00:54:47,826
I said, "I spoke to this gal.
We got this covered."
916
00:54:47,909 --> 00:54:49,077
He's like, "Cool, man."
917
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,081
And so… I mean, thanks, Nic.
You could have said, "You know, Charles?"
918
00:54:53,164 --> 00:54:55,834
"We're probably going
to pull the plug on that."
919
00:54:55,917 --> 00:54:58,712
And he didn't. And I don't blame him.
920
00:54:58,795 --> 00:55:03,800
Because you're mine
921
00:55:03,883 --> 00:55:06,303
Palm Springs, California!
922
00:55:11,308 --> 00:55:16,938
It's fantabulous and sexy
and as exciting as it could have been.
923
00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:20,108
Number 13!
924
00:55:26,614 --> 00:55:31,161
And I get back to St. John's
925
00:55:31,828 --> 00:55:34,539
at about 7:40.
926
00:55:35,081 --> 00:55:37,625
And she sees me walking up,
927
00:55:37,709 --> 00:55:39,711
and it is such…
928
00:55:39,794 --> 00:55:43,506
I mean, she's kind of happy
that, you know,
929
00:55:43,590 --> 00:55:47,260
that this guy, he's committed to this,
and he showed back up.
930
00:55:48,511 --> 00:55:54,017
So she was happy for me,
but disappointed for herself.
931
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:57,145
She kind of was like,
"All right, well, whatever."
932
00:55:57,228 --> 00:56:01,232
"You're a man of your word.
Welcome back. We kept your room for you."
933
00:56:03,443 --> 00:56:09,366
My agent, he visited me in rehab
with the Hot Shots! script.
934
00:56:09,866 --> 00:56:12,327
This fell out of the fucking sky
right in my lap.
935
00:56:12,410 --> 00:56:16,122
I don't need your help or anybody's help.
I'll be just fine.
936
00:56:16,623 --> 00:56:18,792
And it was a bit of a game changer.
937
00:56:21,127 --> 00:56:22,212
Are you okay?
938
00:56:23,004 --> 00:56:25,423
I think it might have been the first time
939
00:56:25,507 --> 00:56:29,511
I noticed that there was a pattern
to go through all this shit,
940
00:56:30,136 --> 00:56:31,471
come out of the fire,
941
00:56:31,554 --> 00:56:36,935
and there be an opportunity
on the immediate other side of it.
942
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:41,398
It really flattened the concept
943
00:56:41,481 --> 00:56:45,276
of genuine consequences.
944
00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:54,035
I was able to just… turn it off.
945
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:56,746
And to this day,
I don't know how, but I did.
946
00:56:56,830 --> 00:57:01,835
I was at Nic's castle,
for lack of a different description,
947
00:57:01,918 --> 00:57:03,545
up in the Hollywood Hills.
948
00:57:03,628 --> 00:57:07,424
The neighborhood was kind of sketchy,
but the place was fabulous.
949
00:57:07,507 --> 00:57:10,802
I asked Nic one night,
"Why did you choose this place?"
950
00:57:10,885 --> 00:57:13,012
He was like, "Charles, look at the view."
951
00:57:13,096 --> 00:57:17,267
"Look at the view and just think
how much closer I am to the crime."
952
00:57:17,350 --> 00:57:21,187
I was like, "All right.
That makes me want to leave, um…"
953
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,899
So I had spent the night, and I woke up.
954
00:57:24,983 --> 00:57:27,360
He wasn't up yet.
I went down to his kitchen.
955
00:57:27,444 --> 00:57:31,156
And I opened his refrigerator.
There was a Foster's lager sitting there.
956
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:34,159
Lit perfectly,
slow push in on it, you know.
957
00:57:35,201 --> 00:57:36,870
Reverse, push in on me.
958
00:57:38,538 --> 00:57:42,876
I'm like, "Shit, it's Dad's birthday.
It's my birthday too, let's celebrate."
959
00:57:44,169 --> 00:57:46,171
Cracked that fucker and downed it.
960
00:57:47,297 --> 00:57:48,506
Yeah, celebrated one year.
961
00:57:48,590 --> 00:57:51,009
Come on, man. That was an accomplishment.
962
00:57:52,510 --> 00:57:56,306
That beer was there for a reason, right?
That opened the door a little bit.
963
00:57:57,474 --> 00:58:01,102
I would pull waitresses aside,
give them a decent tip and say,
964
00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:04,606
"I need a little wine in a coffee mug,"
you know.
965
00:58:04,689 --> 00:58:10,069
At the same time, I was trying
to project an image of responsibility.
966
00:58:10,153 --> 00:58:11,696
Is your act pretty cleaned up now?
967
00:58:11,779 --> 00:58:13,072
-More or less, yeah.
-Is it?
968
00:58:13,156 --> 00:58:17,535
Yeah, no, I've, uh,
spent a little more time at home
969
00:58:17,619 --> 00:58:21,498
eating a Wolfgang Puck Spicy Chicken
than I do in a bar.
970
00:58:21,581 --> 00:58:24,792
"I just need to take the edge off a bit.
It's not going to lead back
971
00:58:24,876 --> 00:58:27,837
to all the freaking shit
that got me in this mess."
972
00:58:28,796 --> 00:58:32,926
Yeah, it's funny how secret wine
in a coffee mug just
973
00:58:33,593 --> 00:58:37,639
turns into everything
it wasn't supposed to be.
974
00:58:40,725 --> 00:58:44,229
There was a club that was
really popular called On The Rox,
975
00:58:44,312 --> 00:58:45,980
and it was above the Roxy.
976
00:58:46,064 --> 00:58:51,069
The place was a little sketchy,
but it was the spot.
977
00:58:52,445 --> 00:58:58,243
There was one night, there was a group
of girls there I hadn't seen there before.
978
00:58:58,952 --> 00:59:02,622
And lined up properly,
they were each hotter than the other,
979
00:59:02,705 --> 00:59:05,917
dressed nicely,
and wearing all the right accessories.
980
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,419
They would always
wind up back at this one table.
981
00:59:08,503 --> 00:59:13,466
And at the head of the table was a gal
that seemed like she was kind of,
982
00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:17,011
for lack of a better description,
like their chaperone.
983
00:59:17,512 --> 00:59:18,930
She was a little bit older.
984
00:59:19,013 --> 00:59:23,351
She wasn't trying to prove anything
or impress anyone, you know.
985
00:59:23,851 --> 00:59:26,896
And so I finally got to talking
to one of these girls.
986
00:59:29,941 --> 00:59:32,527
I said,
"Do you have any plans after this?"
987
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:35,280
She says, "Yeah,
that's where it gets a little tricky."
988
00:59:35,363 --> 00:59:39,784
"I got to go talk to my friend and see
what that looks like for us, you know?"
989
00:59:39,867 --> 00:59:44,414
I'm thinking, "That's kind of strange.
You come here with your mom, whatever."
990
00:59:46,624 --> 00:59:48,001
Then it clicks.
991
00:59:48,585 --> 00:59:50,628
Okay, these are call girls.
992
00:59:51,629 --> 00:59:54,090
That lady over there is their madam.
993
00:59:55,341 --> 00:59:57,594
Actually, that stuff never bothered me.
994
00:59:57,677 --> 00:59:58,595
What you looking at?
995
00:59:58,678 --> 01:00:02,348
In fact, I lost my virginity to a pro
when I was 15 years old.
996
01:00:03,057 --> 01:00:05,643
I borrowed Dad's credit card
to pay for it.
997
01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:07,395
It's 1980. I'm in Vegas.
998
01:00:10,481 --> 01:00:14,360
I'm pretty sure her name was Candy.
999
01:00:17,447 --> 01:00:19,073
So, I have to say, Candy,
1000
01:00:19,157 --> 01:00:21,826
if you're out there somewhere, um,
1001
01:00:21,909 --> 01:00:23,036
thank you.
1002
01:00:24,412 --> 01:00:26,164
How do you unpack that moment
1003
01:00:26,247 --> 01:00:27,707
and kind of where it goes from there?
1004
01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:33,463
Candy, you know, probably cost me
upwards of 100 million, conservatively.
1005
01:00:33,546 --> 01:00:36,007
Can I ask you something,
just one guy to another?
1006
01:00:36,090 --> 01:00:39,719
You know, I've never hired a woman.
1007
01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:42,096
I'd just think
it's like a blind date, really.
1008
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:45,058
Except that you know
that it's going to be successful.
1009
01:00:45,141 --> 01:00:48,144
Yeah. I think Cary Grant
said it best way back in the day.
1010
01:00:48,227 --> 01:00:50,855
He said that he's not paying for the sex.
1011
01:00:50,938 --> 01:00:55,109
He's paying for them to leave
when he's done, you know. Um…
1012
01:00:55,193 --> 01:00:57,779
-In the immortal words of Cary Grant.
-Yes. Yeah.
1013
01:01:01,282 --> 01:01:02,950
And the sky was made of amethyst…
1014
01:01:03,034 --> 01:01:06,454
Which brings us back
to that fateful night at On The Rox.
1015
01:01:06,537 --> 01:01:09,457
And all the stars
Were just like little fish…
1016
01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:12,710
The same night I was introduced
to the infamous madam.
1017
01:01:12,794 --> 01:01:14,962
You should learn when to go
1018
01:01:15,046 --> 01:01:17,131
I said, "I'm Charlie Sheen.
Nice to meet you."
1019
01:01:21,928 --> 01:01:23,846
She says, "Hi, my name is Heidi."
1020
01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:26,641
You should learn how to say no
1021
01:01:26,724 --> 01:01:29,018
Go on, take everything
1022
01:01:29,102 --> 01:01:32,397
Take everything, I want you to
1023
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,858
Go on, take everything
Take everything…
1024
01:01:35,942 --> 01:01:37,193
Hey!
1025
01:01:38,403 --> 01:01:39,237
Come here.
1026
01:01:41,114 --> 01:01:43,574
Hey, come here, babies. Come here.
1027
01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:46,411
Hey, what's your problem? Come here.
1028
01:01:47,036 --> 01:01:48,121
Come here.
1029
01:01:50,581 --> 01:01:53,000
I'm born and raised in LA.
1030
01:01:53,084 --> 01:01:57,839
Everything was a perfect storm
to make me the perfect madam.
1031
01:01:58,423 --> 01:02:01,676
I was young, arrogant.
I was the best. That's how it is.
1032
01:02:01,759 --> 01:02:04,387
I'm not gonna start naming
all the actors I've dealt with,
1033
01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:06,973
but everyone you think
is doing it is doing it.
1034
01:02:07,056 --> 01:02:09,392
Big deal.
What guy doesn't want to get laid?
1035
01:02:09,475 --> 01:02:12,311
And they're paying
for adults doing adult things.
1036
01:02:12,395 --> 01:02:15,606
It's not Jeffrey Epstein-like
pedophile thing.
1037
01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:19,402
I wasn't Ghislaine Maxwell
driving around junior high schools.
1038
01:02:19,485 --> 01:02:20,611
There's none of that.
1039
01:02:20,695 --> 01:02:23,489
And the women came to me in droves.
1040
01:02:23,573 --> 01:02:27,535
When they were like $10 cum buckets,
I've got them $100,000 a night.
1041
01:02:27,618 --> 01:02:29,537
I have no talent, no skill.
1042
01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:31,622
Everything with me has to be created
1043
01:02:31,706 --> 01:02:35,752
by imagination or luck
or persistence and determination.
1044
01:02:35,835 --> 01:02:38,087
She was really cool. She was really smart.
1045
01:02:38,171 --> 01:02:40,465
She was pretty business savvy.
I don't know.
1046
01:02:40,548 --> 01:02:43,676
She had a decent sense of humor.
She was never sloppy.
1047
01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:45,636
You know?
1048
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,181
Charlie is a crybaby pussy bitch.
1049
01:02:48,264 --> 01:02:51,601
I've been on the cover of Time
with the Manson girls.
1050
01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:53,686
I'm in the criminal category.
1051
01:02:53,770 --> 01:02:56,397
People remember the criminals.
That's what they know.
1052
01:02:57,064 --> 01:02:59,442
Look, at 27 years old, I was arrested.
1053
01:02:59,525 --> 01:03:01,360
I knew I'd get arrested one day
1054
01:03:01,444 --> 01:03:04,572
for running
an illegal consensual sex empire.
1055
01:03:05,364 --> 01:03:08,993
But I didn't think it would ever happen
the way it happened.
1056
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:12,538
With Heidi, I always just used cash.
1057
01:03:12,622 --> 01:03:15,458
And everything was fine. For a while.
1058
01:03:15,541 --> 01:03:17,293
Nobody got hurt. Nobody got arrested.
1059
01:03:18,085 --> 01:03:19,170
For a while.
1060
01:03:20,588 --> 01:03:23,007
Then I was too hammered to go to the bank.
1061
01:03:23,090 --> 01:03:24,675
I'm pretty sure I was using…
1062
01:03:24,759 --> 01:03:28,554
American Express traveler's checks.
Don't leave home without them.
1063
01:03:28,638 --> 01:03:30,807
I said to her,
"We probably shouldn't do this."
1064
01:03:30,890 --> 01:03:35,269
"Is it cool if I just write a check?"
She's like, "Yeah, yeah, no problem."
1065
01:03:35,353 --> 01:03:36,771
"No problem whatsoever."
1066
01:03:39,524 --> 01:03:42,068
Big problem, oh, so ever.
1067
01:03:42,151 --> 01:03:44,821
In Vanity Fair magazine,
Fleiss breaks her silence
1068
01:03:44,904 --> 01:03:48,199
about customers
for her high-priced call-girl operation.
1069
01:03:48,282 --> 01:03:52,245
She claims actor Charlie Sheen wanted
prostitutes dressed as cheerleaders.
1070
01:03:52,328 --> 01:03:54,997
-Let me explain the Charlie connection.
-Yeah, please.
1071
01:03:55,498 --> 01:03:58,709
His name would have never,
ever come out. Ever.
1072
01:03:58,793 --> 01:04:01,462
For the simple fact, a long time ago,
1073
01:04:01,546 --> 01:04:04,590
there were things
called traveler's checks.
1074
01:04:04,674 --> 01:04:08,886
And I guess Charlie was away making
Hot Shots! Part Three, or something.
1075
01:04:08,970 --> 01:04:10,179
I don't know.
1076
01:04:10,263 --> 01:04:13,266
And he probably had
traveler's checks on location,
1077
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:15,059
that was considered like money.
1078
01:04:15,142 --> 01:04:18,271
So when he returned,
he called me, I don't know, for some girls
1079
01:04:18,354 --> 01:04:20,356
and paid with traveler's checks.
1080
01:04:20,439 --> 01:04:22,525
They were in my Gucci planner,
1081
01:04:22,608 --> 01:04:26,821
along with traveler's checks from
Saudi royal families, stuff like that.
1082
01:04:26,904 --> 01:04:30,116
Those kinds of people,
the cops don't know who they are,
1083
01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:31,617
but they know Charlie Sheen.
1084
01:04:31,701 --> 01:04:34,203
So that's the only reason
his name came out.
1085
01:04:34,287 --> 01:04:37,498
Otherwise, it never would have come out.
I wouldn't have said anything.
1086
01:04:37,582 --> 01:04:39,417
I've never said anything about anyone.
1087
01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:42,420
Hollywood actors are so scared
about being named in this thing.
1088
01:04:42,503 --> 01:04:44,589
Do you realize,
since they cracked down on her,
1089
01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:48,926
some of the best acting is going on?
People going, "Heidi who? No."
1090
01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:51,304
Heidi has indeed become famous,
1091
01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:54,640
attracting the attention
of the news media from all over the world.
1092
01:04:54,724 --> 01:04:55,641
Let us through.
1093
01:04:55,725 --> 01:04:58,144
It was an intense struggle for Heidi
1094
01:04:58,227 --> 01:05:00,354
to get into the Division 30 courtroom.
1095
01:05:00,438 --> 01:05:03,024
Everyone wanted
to capture a shot of Heidi.
1096
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:08,905
The day after I was arrested,
I was sitting out by my pool,
1097
01:05:08,988 --> 01:05:10,948
looking over the whole city.
1098
01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:12,950
I lived in real Beverly Hills.
1099
01:05:13,534 --> 01:05:16,120
I bought my house
from the actor Michael Douglas.
1100
01:05:18,331 --> 01:05:21,125
I'm sitting looking at it,
just bailed out, going,
1101
01:05:21,208 --> 01:05:25,087
"How did I fuck up the best job on earth?"
1102
01:05:26,255 --> 01:05:28,299
They had the checks.
1103
01:05:28,382 --> 01:05:30,343
Yeah, that's the part that sunk me.
1104
01:05:30,426 --> 01:05:32,595
That's the part
I couldn't talk my way out of.
1105
01:05:32,678 --> 01:05:35,056
I had meetings with the U.S. Attorney,
and they said,
1106
01:05:35,139 --> 01:05:38,935
"We will grant you immunity,
but you have to roll on her."
1107
01:05:39,018 --> 01:05:44,231
So… you know, I didn't want to be a rat,
but there was no other way out of it.
1108
01:05:44,732 --> 01:05:47,401
Robert Mitchum,
he was arrested for marijuana.
1109
01:05:47,485 --> 01:05:50,947
They said, "Tell us your dealer."
He said, "Charge me with a crime."
1110
01:05:51,030 --> 01:05:52,949
Charlie should have said, "Charge me."
1111
01:05:53,032 --> 01:05:56,327
He's a crybaby rich boy.
He's a rich kid from Malibu.
1112
01:05:56,410 --> 01:05:58,996
They're not gonna do shit to him.
He's Charlie Sheen.
1113
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,917
He was at his peak then.
They're not going to do anything to him.
1114
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,126
Are you kidding me?
1115
01:06:04,210 --> 01:06:05,920
They threatened me.
1116
01:06:06,003 --> 01:06:09,006
They said, "Look, just so you know,
1117
01:06:09,090 --> 01:06:11,926
it's a misdemeanor to hire a gal,
1118
01:06:12,009 --> 01:06:14,470
but if you get a couple of gals
1119
01:06:14,553 --> 01:06:17,807
and give one to your buddy,
that's pandering."
1120
01:06:18,557 --> 01:06:20,017
"That's three to five."
1121
01:06:20,101 --> 01:06:24,480
I said, "Well, no, I would never pay
for gals for my pals." You know?
1122
01:06:24,563 --> 01:06:26,607
They said, "We have proof that you did."
1123
01:06:26,691 --> 01:06:27,775
That was the deal.
1124
01:06:27,858 --> 01:06:30,653
That was a thing that was like,
yeah, of course,
1125
01:06:30,736 --> 01:06:34,490
a couple of two, three girls show up
and you're with your buddies and it's…
1126
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:37,451
You know, you get to be a hero, right?
1127
01:06:37,535 --> 01:06:42,957
And so I didn't know doing that was
such a potential severe violation
1128
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,126
of whatever that law is, you know.
1129
01:06:45,209 --> 01:06:47,545
So, yeah, I was in the soup, man.
1130
01:06:47,628 --> 01:06:49,714
It was a really difficult time.
1131
01:06:49,797 --> 01:06:53,092
When you're facing, like,
seven and a half years in jail,
1132
01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:57,263
might as well be a death sentence,
because at that young age, you know,
1133
01:06:57,346 --> 01:06:59,098
it just seems like eternity.
1134
01:06:59,181 --> 01:07:02,685
He testified he spent
more than $50,000 in three years
1135
01:07:02,768 --> 01:07:04,937
soliciting prostitutes from Fleiss.
1136
01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:07,606
Was he a good client, Charlie Sheen?
1137
01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:10,234
When I said, "Are you really
trying to put this lady away
1138
01:07:10,317 --> 01:07:13,237
for basically running
a successful business
1139
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,614
that's one of the oldest
professions on Earth?"
1140
01:07:15,698 --> 01:07:19,285
They said, "It's not really about that.
It's about tax evasion."
1141
01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:27,418
So I sat with that,
and I felt like… that that, um…
1142
01:07:28,419 --> 01:07:31,005
that really kind of on her at that point.
1143
01:07:31,088 --> 01:07:33,549
He testified against me,
and I went to jail.
1144
01:07:33,632 --> 01:07:34,759
We, the jury,
1145
01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:37,845
find the defendant,
Heidi Lynne Fleiss, guilty.
1146
01:07:37,928 --> 01:07:42,183
Heidi Fleiss was sentenced
to 37 months in jail and a $400 fine
1147
01:07:42,266 --> 01:07:43,517
for cheating on taxes
1148
01:07:43,601 --> 01:07:46,228
and laundering profits
for her call girl service.
1149
01:07:46,312 --> 01:07:49,440
Before I went to prison,
I moved to the beach
1150
01:07:49,523 --> 01:07:53,235
and opened up
like a lingerie store like Juicy.
1151
01:07:53,319 --> 01:07:56,489
Opened up on 3rd Street Promenade
and Old Town Pasadena.
1152
01:07:56,989 --> 01:08:00,326
And that was just to switch everything.
1153
01:08:00,409 --> 01:08:04,872
And then, so one evening, Charlie's dad,
Martin Sheen, came in the store.
1154
01:08:05,456 --> 01:08:09,001
And he's telling me to go easy on Charlie.
1155
01:08:09,085 --> 01:08:13,964
And I'm thinking, "Go easy on Charlie?
I'm the one going to jail. I was never--"
1156
01:08:14,048 --> 01:08:17,510
"The best deal I was offered
was seven and a half years."
1157
01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:20,304
"And he's telling me
to go easy on Charlie?"
1158
01:08:20,387 --> 01:08:23,390
But that's just
a father's love for his son.
1159
01:08:23,474 --> 01:08:25,434
And it's totally understandable.
1160
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,688
We're not taught as children
how to deal with success.
1161
01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:32,358
They always say, if at first
you don't succeed, try again.
1162
01:08:32,441 --> 01:08:34,401
That's dealing with failure, you know.
1163
01:08:34,485 --> 01:08:38,781
Nobody ever said, "If at first
you succeed… what do you do?"
1164
01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:42,243
-You know?
-Yeah. What do you do?
1165
01:08:42,326 --> 01:08:43,619
I don't know, run and hide.
1166
01:08:45,538 --> 01:08:47,790
The work, the money.
1167
01:08:47,873 --> 01:08:49,542
Back in circulation, huh, Charlie?
1168
01:08:49,625 --> 01:08:52,461
Oh, yeah. My circulation's fine.
1169
01:08:52,545 --> 01:08:53,838
It kept happening.
1170
01:08:53,921 --> 01:08:57,424
Sheen reportedly took home
between three and five million dollars.
1171
01:08:57,508 --> 01:09:00,511
There were no real consequences.
1172
01:09:03,305 --> 01:09:05,933
We proudly welcome
to the Hollywood Walk of Fame,
1173
01:09:06,016 --> 01:09:07,309
Charlie Sheen.
1174
01:09:09,603 --> 01:09:10,563
Woo!
1175
01:09:10,646 --> 01:09:13,315
Damn, you got a lot of pull in this town.
1176
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:14,567
Charlie Sheen, man.
1177
01:09:15,609 --> 01:09:18,529
He's always been
loyal to me from the start.
1178
01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:21,657
Charlie was executive producing the movie.
1179
01:09:21,740 --> 01:09:25,911
And the studio wanted
to give Charlie first billing.
1180
01:09:25,995 --> 01:09:29,290
And he was like,
"No, Chris should have first billing."
1181
01:09:29,373 --> 01:09:31,000
"I'm having second billing."
1182
01:09:31,083 --> 01:09:34,545
He's this huge star,
you know, not being selfish.
1183
01:09:34,628 --> 01:09:36,172
Who does that in Hollywood?
1184
01:09:36,881 --> 01:09:39,258
-We good?
-Yeah, we're great.
1185
01:09:39,341 --> 01:09:41,844
Charlie Sheen, Chris Tucker
on the set of Money Talks.
1186
01:09:41,927 --> 01:09:44,388
The movie started great,
and we were cooking with gas.
1187
01:09:44,471 --> 01:09:45,973
Let's do it again.
1188
01:09:46,056 --> 01:09:48,809
Then it got away from me,
like it usually does.
1189
01:09:48,893 --> 01:09:51,145
I remember one day
he didn't show up to work,
1190
01:09:51,228 --> 01:09:54,106
but I was late too, so I was like,
1191
01:09:54,190 --> 01:09:56,442
"I'm glad he didn't,
so they stay off of me."
1192
01:09:56,525 --> 01:09:57,735
It was one of those things.
1193
01:09:57,818 --> 01:10:00,070
But when he showed up,
we were ready to work.
1194
01:10:00,154 --> 01:10:04,116
One day, I got an 18-hour nosebleed
from doing too much cocaine.
1195
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,412
And that's usually kind of the threshold
where you go and get it checked out.
1196
01:10:08,495 --> 01:10:11,749
And I didn't.
I just kept kind of blotting it.
1197
01:10:11,832 --> 01:10:15,127
There was one night where it dripped
onto my shirt during a scene.
1198
01:10:15,211 --> 01:10:18,964
And I got the director,
Brett Ratner, to agree to,
1199
01:10:19,048 --> 01:10:21,592
you know, make that shot go away forever.
1200
01:10:21,675 --> 01:10:23,928
He did,
because we've never seen it, right?
1201
01:10:24,553 --> 01:10:28,432
And that's when it starts to get
that the priorities are,
1202
01:10:28,933 --> 01:10:31,435
you know, couldn't be
more wonky, you know?
1203
01:10:32,061 --> 01:10:33,479
Hey, Larry. Come here.
1204
01:10:33,562 --> 01:10:37,191
I was taking jobs to just fuel the habits.
1205
01:10:37,274 --> 01:10:39,944
I don't know about you,
but I got a bad feeling about this.
1206
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:47,243
I was in Montreal and I was shooting
this movie called Free Money.
1207
01:10:47,326 --> 01:10:51,038
I found a dope connection
as soon as I got to Montreal.
1208
01:10:51,121 --> 01:10:54,166
Remind the audience that
you refer to dope as something different…
1209
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:55,334
It's cocaine, yeah.
1210
01:10:55,417 --> 01:10:58,587
So I had overshot the mark.
1211
01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:05,135
And it got to the point where I literally
could not keep my eyes open.
1212
01:11:05,219 --> 01:11:08,347
I felt they were so burned and so heavy.
1213
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:09,848
The director kinda spotted it.
1214
01:11:09,932 --> 01:11:13,227
He says, "You look
like you're falling asleep on camera,"
1215
01:11:13,310 --> 01:11:15,187
which had never happened before.
1216
01:11:15,271 --> 01:11:18,983
I said to him, I said, uh,
"I need a glass of ice."
1217
01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:20,567
He was like, "Okay."
1218
01:11:20,651 --> 01:11:23,362
He gave me a glass of ice.
I said, "I'll be right back."
1219
01:11:23,445 --> 01:11:25,447
There was a little bathroom.
1220
01:11:26,407 --> 01:11:29,660
And I went in there,
and I took an ice cube,
1221
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:31,829
and I shoved it up my butt.
1222
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,458
I'd never done that before.
And man, I was wide awake.
1223
01:11:37,543 --> 01:11:39,753
Just enough to get back on the mark
1224
01:11:39,837 --> 01:11:43,340
and finish the fucking scene
with an ice cube in my ass.
1225
01:11:43,424 --> 01:11:46,051
Making the big money run
in a couple weeks, right, Louis?
1226
01:11:46,135 --> 01:11:47,845
Yes, sir. With assistance.
1227
01:11:48,429 --> 01:11:49,763
You're shitting me.
1228
01:11:49,847 --> 01:11:52,266
Between the Midwest provinces
and the U.S. banks?
1229
01:11:52,349 --> 01:11:54,018
That's us. Right, Louis?
1230
01:11:54,101 --> 01:11:57,938
Yes, sir. With assistance.
You sure don't want a beer?
1231
01:11:58,022 --> 01:11:59,231
Can I buy you guys a beer?
1232
01:11:59,315 --> 01:12:03,736
My theory has always been
that I don't know that he believes
1233
01:12:03,819 --> 01:12:06,655
uh, that he deserves what he's got.
1234
01:12:07,573 --> 01:12:11,577
I think there's a part of him
that throws it all away
1235
01:12:12,077 --> 01:12:15,039
just to see if he ever deserved it.
1236
01:12:15,706 --> 01:12:18,417
That is what drives people crazy
who are close to him,
1237
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:21,003
is that there's
so many great things about him.
1238
01:12:21,086 --> 01:12:25,257
If he only believed it,
he might stop burning it all down.
1239
01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:32,514
I'm going to tell you
something very candid.
1240
01:12:34,933 --> 01:12:38,812
And this is one example,
and it's biological.
1241
01:12:48,113 --> 01:12:50,449
Most people, men…
1242
01:12:52,409 --> 01:12:54,995
who do cocaine…
1243
01:12:57,247 --> 01:12:59,708
copious amounts of cocaine…
1244
01:13:02,127 --> 01:13:05,881
have extremely enhanced
1245
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,926
sexual fantasies,
1246
01:13:10,344 --> 01:13:16,016
but extremely derailed
sexual competency at that time.
1247
01:13:19,770 --> 01:13:23,524
Thank God for anybody that describes
1248
01:13:24,608 --> 01:13:28,695
that their dick don't work
when full of cocaine.
1249
01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:33,492
What the fuck would it be like
if it was the opposite?
1250
01:13:33,992 --> 01:13:35,661
Ask Charlie Sheen.
1251
01:13:40,416 --> 01:13:44,002
There's a young gal
that C. Thomas Howell and myself
1252
01:13:44,086 --> 01:13:45,796
were kind of seeing at the same time,
1253
01:13:45,879 --> 01:13:48,424
and she was really sweet
and sexy and adorable.
1254
01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:50,759
She reached out to me one night.
1255
01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:53,637
I'm still in my condo in Malibu,
and she said,
1256
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:58,267
"Hey, I'm in a spot that I need
to be extracted from at once."
1257
01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:01,019
So I went over there.
1258
01:14:01,103 --> 01:14:04,314
It was this kind of semi-rundown
apartment just over the canyon.
1259
01:14:05,232 --> 01:14:06,984
Woodland Hills, maybe.
1260
01:14:07,484 --> 01:14:09,945
And I pull up,
and it's about ten o'clock at night.
1261
01:14:10,028 --> 01:14:12,531
She's in there,
and she's in there with this guy.
1262
01:14:12,614 --> 01:14:17,786
And the vibe of the place
was not pleasant at all.
1263
01:14:17,870 --> 01:14:22,374
It was eerie,
and it felt really unsafe for me.
1264
01:14:22,458 --> 01:14:26,295
I can imagine what she was going through
to make this secret call.
1265
01:14:26,378 --> 01:14:28,046
He was like, "Who the fuck are you?"
1266
01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:30,382
I'm like, "Hey, man,
I don't mean to barge in,
1267
01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:33,844
but I'm a friend of Sandy's, and she said
she needed to get out of here."
1268
01:14:33,927 --> 01:14:36,388
"So I'm here
to facilitate that, you know?"
1269
01:14:36,472 --> 01:14:39,224
And he says,
"Well, hold on a minute." And he…
1270
01:14:39,308 --> 01:14:42,936
He fucking grabs her
and pins her against the wall.
1271
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:45,022
And the dude was pretty big.
1272
01:14:45,105 --> 01:14:48,108
And he's yelling at her
about a bunch of shit, you know,
1273
01:14:48,192 --> 01:14:50,360
and something about
money she owes him, or…
1274
01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:55,282
And I'm like, "Oh, this is moments
from getting away from everybody."
1275
01:14:55,908 --> 01:14:58,535
So he's now looking at me,
and my car is really close,
1276
01:14:58,619 --> 01:15:04,416
so I go back to the car, and I got
an HK P7 M13 9 mil in my glove box.
1277
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:07,544
I put that in my waistband.
I come back in the house, and I said,
1278
01:15:07,628 --> 01:15:09,796
"Whatever's going on,
let's just call it quits."
1279
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,965
"She's coming with me now."
1280
01:15:18,305 --> 01:15:19,973
So we get back to the condo.
1281
01:15:21,183 --> 01:15:24,311
She falls asleep on the couch.
I let her rest for a couple hours.
1282
01:15:25,395 --> 01:15:29,191
The next morning, I'm giving her
some juice and, you know,
1283
01:15:29,274 --> 01:15:31,193
a snack, whatever,
trying to be hospitable.
1284
01:15:31,276 --> 01:15:32,402
I really like this girl.
1285
01:15:34,071 --> 01:15:38,825
And she says, "If you don't mind,
I'm starting to jones a little bit,
1286
01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:43,038
and I kind of need
to just get back up on my shit, you know."
1287
01:15:44,373 --> 01:15:46,959
And I'm like, "Yeah, sure, whatever."
1288
01:15:48,669 --> 01:15:52,798
She pulls out her pipe and loads it up,
and takes a big hit.
1289
01:15:56,510 --> 01:16:00,973
And just lies back on the couch like
she's inside the best moment of all time.
1290
01:16:01,682 --> 01:16:03,517
I'm a little curious.
1291
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:04,851
I'm a little bit curious.
1292
01:16:04,935 --> 01:16:08,855
I've done a lot of cocaine
up to that point, just not in that form.
1293
01:16:11,066 --> 01:16:14,903
She says, you know,
"I don't want to talk you into anything,
1294
01:16:14,987 --> 01:16:18,657
but if you're curious,
I think you might really enjoy this."
1295
01:16:19,449 --> 01:16:21,243
And I said, "I don't know, man."
1296
01:16:21,326 --> 01:16:25,706
"It's like, you know, I'm trying to--
I got a lot of shit coming up."
1297
01:16:26,665 --> 01:16:29,793
At that point, she's feeling
the sexual charge from her hit.
1298
01:16:29,876 --> 01:16:34,840
So she's starting to undress, and she's
almost completely naked at this point.
1299
01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:38,677
So she says,
"Well, let me combo this up for you."
1300
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,598
"Let me do something for you
while you're doing this."
1301
01:16:43,223 --> 01:16:46,602
How do I present this with, uh, any class?
1302
01:16:46,685 --> 01:16:48,061
-Um…
-We're past that.
1303
01:16:48,145 --> 01:16:49,354
We're past that. Yeah.
1304
01:16:49,438 --> 01:16:53,609
She decides that giving me a blowjob
while I'm taking my first hit of crack
1305
01:16:53,692 --> 01:16:55,736
is going to be an experience.
1306
01:17:08,957 --> 01:17:11,376
And so it was indescribable.
1307
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:14,963
It took me to a place in my brain
and in my body, and what she was doing,
1308
01:17:15,047 --> 01:17:17,674
and it all made sense
1309
01:17:17,758 --> 01:17:23,597
on a level that
I was really excited to finally embrace.
1310
01:17:24,348 --> 01:17:28,310
But in that same breath,
in that same experience,
1311
01:17:28,393 --> 01:17:34,024
I'm deathly afraid of how far
this could get away from me.
1312
01:17:34,107 --> 01:17:35,067
I was aware of that.
1313
01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:37,110
-In the moment?
-In the moment, yeah.
1314
01:17:37,194 --> 01:17:42,991
The duality of those
two conflicting forces…
1315
01:17:43,075 --> 01:17:45,202
Banging seven-gram rocks
and finishing them.
1316
01:17:45,285 --> 01:17:51,792
…was something that, uh, to this day,
1317
01:17:51,875 --> 01:17:55,462
just were peerless, you know?
1318
01:17:55,962 --> 01:18:00,384
I mean, I got kind of
a little… shaky telling that.
1319
01:18:00,467 --> 01:18:01,301
Yeah.
1320
01:18:01,385 --> 01:18:05,514
Not like I'm a fucking sissy,
and I got shaken up by my own story,
1321
01:18:05,597 --> 01:18:09,226
but I could feel
some of that shit coming back up.
1322
01:18:09,309 --> 01:18:10,519
Um…
1323
01:18:11,853 --> 01:18:14,523
Sadly, she died.
1324
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:17,359
She died, yeah. She OD'd on that shit.
1325
01:18:17,442 --> 01:18:18,360
She OD'd?
1326
01:18:18,443 --> 01:18:21,738
Yeah, I think shortly before
or right after her 30th birthday.
1327
01:18:21,822 --> 01:18:23,990
You know, it was just such a loss.
1328
01:18:24,908 --> 01:18:26,201
Such a waste.
1329
01:18:32,124 --> 01:18:35,460
Is crack the thing
you just wish had never entered your life?
1330
01:18:38,213 --> 01:18:39,923
Yeah, if I could, um…
1331
01:18:40,006 --> 01:18:45,679
If-if… if I could just kind of…
carve that one out or just erase it,
1332
01:18:46,179 --> 01:18:51,309
just take it completely…
out of the equation, um…
1333
01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:54,563
yeah, I think it would have--
1334
01:18:54,646 --> 01:18:58,775
I probably would have avoided some, uh…
1335
01:18:59,693 --> 01:19:02,946
some pretty awful situations, you know?
1336
01:19:08,118 --> 01:19:10,704
The party was over.
I just didn't know it yet.
1337
01:19:14,416 --> 01:19:15,917
I'd tried everything.
1338
01:19:16,001 --> 01:19:19,546
Why not try shooting up cocaine?
1339
01:19:22,090 --> 01:19:24,509
It felt cinematic. It felt dangerous.
1340
01:19:24,593 --> 01:19:27,679
It felt, you know,
like it had to be such a secret.
1341
01:19:29,431 --> 01:19:32,350
I drew it up just like,
1342
01:19:32,851 --> 01:19:35,812
you know, Tarantino taught so many of us.
1343
01:19:40,025 --> 01:19:42,861
I had a Japanese tattoo
that was the colors of war.
1344
01:19:43,945 --> 01:19:45,697
Black and red.
1345
01:19:45,781 --> 01:19:46,823
And wow.
1346
01:19:47,824 --> 01:19:50,786
Things changed… …so quickly.
1347
01:19:59,085 --> 01:20:01,922
It's as though
I was suddenly falling forward,
1348
01:20:02,005 --> 01:20:06,510
and I could hear
all the blood in my body rushing
1349
01:20:06,593 --> 01:20:11,807
as though I had both ears
covered with seashells at the beach.
1350
01:20:13,183 --> 01:20:18,313
My legs are shaking so badly
that I'm taking these two-inch, like,
1351
01:20:18,396 --> 01:20:21,608
I don't know,
fucking Joe Biden steps, right?
1352
01:20:22,692 --> 01:20:25,695
My bodyguard, Zip,
was still on the premises.
1353
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:30,242
I said, "You've got to call 911
because this is beyond both of us."
1354
01:20:35,205 --> 01:20:39,292
He was admitted to Los Robles
Regional Medical Center at 5:30 a.m.,
1355
01:20:39,376 --> 01:20:41,503
accompanied by his father.
1356
01:20:41,586 --> 01:20:45,257
Rumors ran rampant that
the younger Sheen had a stroke and died,
1357
01:20:45,340 --> 01:20:48,426
one reason why his father
wanted to set the record straight.
1358
01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:52,556
First I want to assure you, my son,
Charlie Sheen, is very much alive.
1359
01:20:54,057 --> 01:20:55,809
I was kind of in and out,
1360
01:20:55,892 --> 01:20:57,269
and sedated, you know.
1361
01:20:57,352 --> 01:21:00,313
And so he was doing all that
without my knowledge.
1362
01:21:00,397 --> 01:21:04,025
My son was admitted here yesterday
as a result of a drug overdose.
1363
01:21:04,109 --> 01:21:06,570
It felt like it dumped
a bunch of gas on the fire.
1364
01:21:07,237 --> 01:21:10,991
We are in the stages
right now of recovery.
1365
01:21:11,575 --> 01:21:13,577
I had a huge resentment about that.
1366
01:21:13,660 --> 01:21:17,330
I said, "Give me a little bit of space
and mind your own fucking business."
1367
01:21:17,414 --> 01:21:18,748
"I can get a handle on this."
1368
01:21:18,832 --> 01:21:22,919
We're going to have it out,
you and me, right now, son!
1369
01:21:23,003 --> 01:21:24,713
Dad is so freaking frustrated,
1370
01:21:24,796 --> 01:21:27,632
thinking he and I
were coming to fisticuffs, right?
1371
01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:30,969
So he took out his teeth
because he didn't want to damage them.
1372
01:21:31,052 --> 01:21:34,806
Somebody said, "Martin, hold on.
Violence is not the answer."
1373
01:21:36,182 --> 01:21:38,226
Everybody was super frustrated.
1374
01:21:38,727 --> 01:21:41,938
The time expired
that they could hold me, legally.
1375
01:21:42,522 --> 01:21:44,482
I said to Zip, "Get me to the condo."
1376
01:21:44,566 --> 01:21:46,776
Yeah, I wanted to stay high.
1377
01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:51,948
It is my hope that he will accept recovery
1378
01:21:53,283 --> 01:21:54,534
and become free.
1379
01:21:57,287 --> 01:22:00,749
Do anything you can
to get between drugs and your kids.
1380
01:22:02,417 --> 01:22:05,503
It's not an easy moment in our lives,
but it is a very important one,
1381
01:22:05,587 --> 01:22:07,005
a very necessary one.
1382
01:22:09,299 --> 01:22:11,551
Actor Charlie Sheen
skipped the drug rehab center.
1383
01:22:11,635 --> 01:22:15,430
Sheen left with his friends
over the weekend to go partying.
1384
01:22:15,513 --> 01:22:19,059
The addiction has gotten to a point
where I'm scared at this point.
1385
01:22:19,142 --> 01:22:23,813
I'm asking all of his friends and fans
to pray for him.
1386
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:29,903
We're up three, four days,
and I didn't want the party to end.
1387
01:22:31,488 --> 01:22:32,822
And the phone rings.
1388
01:22:32,906 --> 01:22:36,868
"There's a warrant for your arrest.
The marshals are en route."
1389
01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:39,120
Sheen's father, actor Martin Sheen,
1390
01:22:39,204 --> 01:22:43,875
asked California police to make the arrest
to help his son overcome his drug problem.
1391
01:22:47,003 --> 01:22:48,421
I didn't have a plan.
1392
01:22:48,505 --> 01:22:51,758
I didn't know
how long I could push this thing.
1393
01:22:51,841 --> 01:22:55,679
I think maybe then
it was perhaps considering Mexico.
1394
01:22:56,388 --> 01:22:58,682
Meanwhile, Dad's running around
doing all he can.
1395
01:22:59,391 --> 01:23:03,937
I want to get out of the way
of this thing, so that, uh…
1396
01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:07,399
uh… a healing can occur.
1397
01:23:08,108 --> 01:23:11,903
Three words, "I love you."
That was his parenting style.
1398
01:23:11,987 --> 01:23:14,239
Fear is useless.
1399
01:23:14,322 --> 01:23:16,241
Faith is necessary.
1400
01:23:16,324 --> 01:23:18,827
Love is everything.
1401
01:23:18,910 --> 01:23:23,331
We wound up,
just a little pit stop, at Slash's house.
1402
01:23:23,415 --> 01:23:28,628
He said, "I don't know that I've seen
anyone before in this kind of shape."
1403
01:23:29,212 --> 01:23:32,882
This is Slash, right? Uh…
1404
01:23:32,966 --> 01:23:34,175
GNR rock god.
1405
01:23:34,259 --> 01:23:35,844
Uh, the life he's led.
1406
01:23:35,927 --> 01:23:38,888
He said, "You're out of options.
You've got to get the rehab."
1407
01:23:38,972 --> 01:23:40,557
"You've got to save yourself, man."
1408
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,101
Coming from him,
the way he presented it, "Whoa."
1409
01:23:43,685 --> 01:23:45,520
Um… message delivered.
1410
01:23:45,603 --> 01:23:47,981
Dad, I'm going to jail and you know it.
1411
01:23:48,064 --> 01:23:50,442
It's the best thing
that could have happened to you.
1412
01:23:51,317 --> 01:23:53,153
And with the current circumstances,
1413
01:23:53,236 --> 01:23:57,157
in light of what I perceive to be
his ingestion of controlled substances,
1414
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,410
he needs to be
in a rehabilitation program.
1415
01:24:00,493 --> 01:24:04,581
Hearing about certain things on the news,
it was, uh… it was out there.
1416
01:24:04,664 --> 01:24:05,707
Yeah.
1417
01:24:05,790 --> 01:24:08,251
It caught up with his life at that point.
1418
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,172
I was definitely concerned.
I would try to talk to people around him.
1419
01:24:12,255 --> 01:24:14,215
See how he was doing, where he was at.
1420
01:24:14,299 --> 01:24:18,720
But I wanted him to get better
and to be safe.
1421
01:24:18,803 --> 01:24:23,641
And thank God for his family,
that his father, man, just stuck with him.
1422
01:24:25,143 --> 01:24:26,853
They take me from the courthouse,
1423
01:24:26,936 --> 01:24:28,980
they deliver me to rehab.
1424
01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,733
And they sedate me heavily.
1425
01:24:31,816 --> 01:24:36,488
The equivalent of let's put the elephant
to sleep for a week-sized dose.
1426
01:24:36,571 --> 01:24:38,948
Man, there was a guy watching me sleep,
1427
01:24:39,032 --> 01:24:40,700
and how he tells the story,
1428
01:24:40,784 --> 01:24:43,953
it was like Michael Myers
in the background.
1429
01:24:45,789 --> 01:24:49,000
Just waking right up
and kind of taking in my surroundings.
1430
01:24:51,252 --> 01:24:55,006
I said, "I got to--
I need some air. I got to take a walk."
1431
01:24:56,633 --> 01:24:57,467
And…
1432
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,098
I managed to get a hold
of my trusty limo driver, Dylan.
1433
01:25:03,181 --> 01:25:05,266
I'm like, "My chariot has arrived!"
1434
01:25:09,062 --> 01:25:11,648
Behind us, it's just cherry top.
1435
01:25:11,731 --> 01:25:13,858
-Stand up!
-Turn around!
1436
01:25:13,942 --> 01:25:15,652
Hands above your head. Don't move.
1437
01:25:15,735 --> 01:25:18,738
It's hard to have
that much power out in the world
1438
01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:21,282
and then have it taken away in a flash.
1439
01:25:21,366 --> 01:25:23,868
They got me medicated pretty severely.
1440
01:25:24,369 --> 01:25:26,538
They wean you off the meds
that they put you on.
1441
01:25:27,205 --> 01:25:31,709
I'm on, like, day 11,
and it's the first day I'm off everything.
1442
01:25:31,793 --> 01:25:33,503
And I start to fucking panic.
1443
01:25:33,586 --> 01:25:36,881
Those were the most
difficult moments to navigate,
1444
01:25:36,965 --> 01:25:40,301
kind of having to accept
that the party was over.
1445
01:25:42,846 --> 01:25:44,430
I get a hold of my bodyguard, Zip.
1446
01:25:45,723 --> 01:25:50,228
And Zip goes through my condo
and breaks everything out of it.
1447
01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:51,938
Sticks it in a bag.
1448
01:25:53,523 --> 01:25:57,068
In one of the quietest nights
I've ever existed in,
1449
01:25:57,152 --> 01:26:01,614
this bag comes, like, skittering
through the night air
1450
01:26:01,698 --> 01:26:04,033
so fucking loud you couldn't believe it.
1451
01:26:04,117 --> 01:26:07,245
And this thing hits the mud.
1452
01:26:08,329 --> 01:26:10,206
Sober gods were like, "All right, man."
1453
01:26:10,290 --> 01:26:12,667
"You're gonna get a bit
of shit on you for this one."
1454
01:26:13,293 --> 01:26:17,297
I have one hit, and it's not great.
Nothing at that point is great.
1455
01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:20,508
I remember sitting in the room,
staring at the freaking ceiling,
1456
01:26:20,592 --> 01:26:23,636
this beige concrete ceiling.
1457
01:26:24,345 --> 01:26:27,473
There was no high left.
1458
01:26:38,860 --> 01:26:42,947
Yeah, I get a knock on my door,
and I knew that was coming.
1459
01:26:43,031 --> 01:26:47,202
And I had this Dick Tracy fedora
that I'd been wearing around town.
1460
01:26:47,285 --> 01:26:48,870
They were like, "Where's the dope?"
1461
01:26:49,537 --> 01:26:52,165
So I basically just take my hat off
and give them the dope.
1462
01:26:52,874 --> 01:26:56,336
And I said to him,
"I have but one request."
1463
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,839
There was a crucial game six, Jazz-Bulls.
1464
01:26:59,923 --> 01:27:06,846
And I said, "All I want to do is be able
to sit down and watch that freaking game."
1465
01:27:06,930 --> 01:27:08,514
Are y'all ready for Air Jordan?
1466
01:27:09,807 --> 01:27:10,934
-Air who?
-Air who?
1467
01:27:11,017 --> 01:27:13,519
He said, "All right,
that's actually a good sign."
1468
01:27:13,603 --> 01:27:19,025
"I'm encouraged that you're still seeking
an interest in something that grounded."
1469
01:27:19,108 --> 01:27:22,278
To Malone, they double him.
Jordan knocks it away from him.
1470
01:27:22,362 --> 01:27:24,864
Jordan's got it.
The Bulls could win it right here.
1471
01:27:24,948 --> 01:27:26,491
And I did watch that game.
1472
01:27:26,574 --> 01:27:29,035
Michael against Russell, 12 seconds.
1473
01:27:29,118 --> 01:27:31,788
11, 10, Jordan.
1474
01:27:31,871 --> 01:27:34,207
Jordan at the line, fires.
1475
01:27:34,290 --> 01:27:35,541
And he hit The Shot.
1476
01:27:37,377 --> 01:27:38,378
He scores!
1477
01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:40,922
He stayed the course and I didn't.
1478
01:27:41,005 --> 01:27:43,508
…to Martin, baseline, left to Charlie.
1479
01:27:43,591 --> 01:27:44,592
It's good!
1480
01:27:46,386 --> 01:27:51,766
I knew after that, that game
was going to be my new sobriety date.
1481
01:27:52,433 --> 01:27:54,769
Things were gonna be fucking different.
1482
01:28:00,275 --> 01:28:02,235
Yeah, a… a lot different.
1483
01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:08,533
I had no idea
how badly this could blow up.
1484
01:28:08,616 --> 01:28:09,909
I'm doing all right.
1485
01:28:09,993 --> 01:28:12,203
Every time the bell rings,
you gotta take a shot.
1486
01:28:12,287 --> 01:28:13,246
Why?
1487
01:28:14,455 --> 01:28:15,790
Because the bell rings.
1488
01:28:29,637 --> 01:28:32,974
Untreated crazy over time
doesn't get better. It gets fucking worse.
1489
01:28:33,975 --> 01:28:34,934
Winning!
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