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TRAVIS: My whole life, I've
been fascinated by the universe
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and what's out there
beyond Earth.
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It led me to obtain
advanced degrees
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in astrophysics,
aerospace engineering,
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and optical science.
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Then I got to work
over the past three decades
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with NASA, the U.S. Army,
and the Department of Defense.
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Travis.
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-Hey, Brandon. How you doing?
-Brandon Fugal.
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TRAVIS:
Four years ago,
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I got the chance of a lifetime
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to join an amazing team
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in their investigation
of the most bizarre place
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I'd ever heard of:
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Skinwalker Ranch.
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At first, I was skeptical
of all the legends,
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but from day one, we've
experienced things together
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that I thought were only
possible in science fiction.
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-What are you seeing?
-A signal?
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TRAVIS: Massive energy spikes
that come out of nowhere...
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TRAVIS:
1.60000.
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BRYANT:
Boy that thing sounds like
it's hitting something.
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TRAVIS:
...evidence of a 400-foot-long,
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dome-shaped object
buried inside a rocky mesa.
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Yeah, I'm up against
something pretty hard right now.
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TRAVIS: ...inexplicable
animal deaths...
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There's no sign of struggle,
it's just dead.
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TRAVIS:
...and a ton of UAPs.
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Look, look, look, what is that?
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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-UAP right there!
-Yup.
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TRAVIS:
Recently, some documents
were released
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to the public about
a program run by the Pentagon
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known as UAPTF.
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The Unidentified
Aerial Phenomena Task Force.
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TRAVIS: It was created
about four years ago
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for the study of UAPs
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and phenomena like what we've
experienced on Skinwalker Ranch.
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These documents also revealed
that I was the chief scientist
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for the UAPTF,
and I helped to author
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the official report that was
presented to Congress in 2021.
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However,
I wasn't permitted to disclose
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any of this
to the team on the ranch.
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So, now, as I'm returning
to join them once again
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for what I consider to be
the most critical investigation
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of the UAP phenomenon
in the world,
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I'm real eager to discuss
what I can with them,
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and I'm curious what
their response will be.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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Hey, Dragon, this is,
uh, Cameron.
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I have Brandon on board.
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We're on the perimeter of
Skinwalker Ranch. We're inbound.
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BRANDON: I'm Brandon Fugal,
the owner of Skinwalker Ranch.
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I'm really excited to
pull together the team today.
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Every time that
we enter the ranch,
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there are new discoveries and
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sometimes new dangers
that arise.
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We've seen more evidence of
the reality of the phenomenon,
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and we are committed
to getting the answers.
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CAMERON:
Here we come in
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for our landing
at the Skinwalker Ranch helipad.
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BRANDON: The revelation
that Dr. Taylor
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had been acting
as the chief scientist
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for the Pentagon's
UAP Task Force
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came as a shock to all of us.
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I think we're still processing
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the reality of what that means.
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I found it to be intriguing.
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I found it to be confirmation
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that we are
truly on to something.
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-Hey.
-Welcome back.
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-Good to see you, friend.
-You, too.
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Hey, Kaleb.
Oh, it's good to be back.
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BRYANT:
We're ready to kick off another
phase of this investigation.
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It's always good to see
my good friend Brandon,
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and we're excited
to get him up to date
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on what we've been doing.
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-Is the team assembled?
-Yep.
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Great.
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THOMAS:
Today, we kick off
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the new research investigation
this summer.
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I left last year
being pretty disturbed
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about some of the things
that I witnessed,
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and so, I wonder,
you know, what lies ahead
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and what crazy things are we
gonna experience this year?
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Let's proceed. We've got
a-a big day ahead of us.
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And an exciting time to kick off
this phase of the investigation.
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-Great to have Dr. Taylor back.
-Thank you.
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BRANDON: We had some interesting
surprises over the last weeks
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with Dr. Taylor,
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the former chief scientist for
the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
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Uh, it would be great to hear
you shed some light on
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your role and how that has, uh,
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impacted our investigation
and-and how
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that may influence things
moving forward.
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Sure. Uh,
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well, so it started in a way
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that you'd
be surprised, actually.
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So, that first summer,
back in 2019, I guess it was,
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there were some, uh, signals
that we had measured,
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that I was concerned, uh,
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was a national security
implication, and
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it was this
1.6 gigahertz signal.
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Really?
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Erik, are you
doing something at 1.6?
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I'm not broadcasting.
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TRAVIS:
Over the past three years,
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we've repeatedly detected
an energy frequency measuring
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1.6 gigahertz...
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[loud radio static]
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What-what the heck is that?
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TRAVIS: ...which we've
suspected could be
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some kind of
communication signal.
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Now, normal human technology
like cell phones and radios
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don't typically operate
at that frequency.
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So, with all the bizarre
phenomena we've seen out here,
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I wondered who or what
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could be broadcasting that
signal out here on the ranch.
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TRAVIS:
I went to the Pentagon to brief,
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to find out if this was us
doing it or if it was
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somebody else doing it.
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Foreign adversaries
that may be involved.
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Yes, and-and I had--
So, I had to report it
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to the right officials.
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So, I went to a room
in the Pentagon,
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and I, uh, I briefed, uh,
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what I'd seen, and then this guy
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comes into the room,
and, uh, he asks
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everybody else but me to leave.
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And he said, "I'm the director
of the UAP Task Force.
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"This is very interesting, and
what I'd like to do is invite
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"you to, uh, come on-on board
and be the chief scientist
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for the Task Force."
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And he presented me
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to both Congress
and the White House
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as the chief scientist
of the Task Force,
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and, uh, and it wasn't until
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he and I both retired
within the last six months,
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and, uh, we were
approved to r-reveal
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that we actually were a part
of that-that Task Force.
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BRANDON:
Interesting. Were they able
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to shed light on whether
we're dealing
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with a foreign adversary
or the nature
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of what we're recording here
at Skinwalker Ranch?
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TRAVIS:
So, according to
the charter written
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in the National Defense
Authorization Act,
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they had to tell us
if they were doing something.
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Turns out it's not us,
it's not anybody
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that we know of, so what is it?
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I know a lot of our team members
have been really concerned
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that they weren't
actually privy to your role.
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Yeah, well,
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you know, I was bound by an oath
and legal, uh, requirements.
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I could not say it.
If I would've said it,
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I'd have gone to jail.
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Right? I can tell you now
that, uh, I'm in
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the private sector, and I see
this as a huge opportunity here.
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That, uh, hopefully, we'll see
assets come available for us.
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-Well, it has to be reciprocal.
-I agree.
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-This has to be a give-and-take.
-Yeah.
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Especially when
we're dealing with
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-such sensitive material.
-TRAVIS: I agree.
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TRAVIS:
It was hard for me
to keep information
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from everyone
on the ranch because
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it's critical that we act
and feel like a team.
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But I also completely understand
why the government
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needed me to keep
some things confidential.
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Thankfully, now that I've left
the UAP Task Force,
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there will be
no more need for secrets.
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I can say from, uh, my personal,
uh, experience here,
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and from, uh, what we've, uh,
uncovered and investigated,
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this is a hot spot that, uh,
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everybody's looking at, and-and
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they wish they had the access
that we have
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on the daily basis to do
the tests and measurements.
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So, if I'm correct here,
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it was the work that
you started doing here
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that led to your opportunity
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-to be part of...
-TRAVIS: That's right.
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That's coming from the guy
that told us we were all nuts
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when we first invited you
to come out here.
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[laughs] I knew you were
gonna say that.
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Just saying, I love it.
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ERIK: Dr. Taylor's involvement
with the UAP Task Force,
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this is of course a revelation.
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It doesn't really change
my outlook
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on his contributions here,
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but I also welcome any insights
that may have come out
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of his involvement
with the UAP Task Force.
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So, Erik, what would you propose
as far as experiments?
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We've got a lot
of planned activities.
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Um, some of them based
in the work that we did
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the last time
we were all together.
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One of the big findings,
of course, was
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what was inside that mesa.
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Right.
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And what did we pull out? Metal.
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Right. It's an aerospace-style,
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manufactured material,
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not something
that happens naturally.
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Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
Last year,
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while drilling horizontally
into the mesa...
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Wow, look at all the metal.
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TRAVIS:
...we extracted pieces of metal
from a massive,
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dome-shaped object that
the drill couldn't penetrate.
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You did the analysis
of the, uh,
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samples that we sent?
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-Yes, we did.
-TRAVIS: Ah.
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And when we had them analyzed
at the University of Utah,
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we found out that they were
composed of a mixture
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of elements that NASA used
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as a protective coating
on the space shuttles.
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So, one of our main goals
this year
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is to determine
just what could be buried
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inside that mesa.
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ERIK:
I think one of the ways
we get answers to the mesa
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is to do a different
kind of survey,
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and I'm thinking
ground-penetrating radar.
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So, we have a GPR capability
that we're going to deploy
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this year, which is gonna
allow us to kind of paint
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that whole area and see down
into the ground
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and see if maybe
there is a big, a big void
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like we've had described to us.
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Excellent.
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Also, I want to continue
expanding the effort
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out into the homestead,
of course,
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but also,
we have this opportunity
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right out there at the triangle.
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Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
Over the past three years,
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we've been perplexed by a zone
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about a mile above a place on
the ranch we call the triangle.
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We've got liftoff.
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TRAVIS:
Oh, my God, during launch,
the electromagnetic spectrum
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is going crazy, guys. I've
never seen anything like it.
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TRAVIS:
We've detected
the 1.6 gigahertz signal there,
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and we've seen rockets
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and lasers deflected
by some invisible
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force or object.
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So, I'm showing radar
altimeter, it's showing
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we're only 40 feet above
the ground right now.
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TRAVIS:
We also took
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Brandon's helicopter
up there to scan it
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and had a shadowy UAP fly
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back and forth
about 40 feet below us.
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-TRAVIS: See that?
-BRANDON: My gosh.
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TRAVIS:
And last year...
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Here.
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This thing's really
clipping along.
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Oh, my gosh.
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It disappeared.
Can you replay that?
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TRAVIS:
We watched a UAP ascend
from the mesa
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toward that mile-high zone
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and then just vanish
into thin air.
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BRANDON:
Are we seeing portals open?
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-Yeah.
-TRAVIS: Brandon's not crazy
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to mention portals.
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People, including scientists,
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have reported seeing
portals here for years.
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I just don't know what
to make of all that yet.
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There's a level of
anomalous phenomena
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happening over the triangle
that, somehow,
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we need a better handle on.
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BRYANT:
That begs the question, then.
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-How do we follow up?
-So, I'm contemplating
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a new experiment, you know,
taking a-a slam scanner,
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a LIDAR-based device, up into
the air with the helicopter.
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TRAVIS:
That's a good idea. You know,
it would be nice to have
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a really good
LIDAR measurement at altitude,
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at 5,000 feet, right over
the center of the triangle.
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Could we do that
with a helicopter?
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How heavy is this equipment?
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Well, it's-it's handheld.
It's a handheld LIDAR device.
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-Yeah.
-TRAVIS: So,
we'll open the doors,
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and-and fly around
the perimetry of it,
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holding the LIDAR
out the edge of the door
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and-and mapping as we go.
It takes its own
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GPS information,
which will be interesting
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if it gets anomalous
behavior from that.
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So, while members of the team
are out there conducting
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these experiments, I think
it would be smart to have
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Tom and Kandus and Jim
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move out
to the community in order
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to interview those who will
bring additional information
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and experiences to light.
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JIM:
I'm actually finding
the community,
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uh, willing to embrace us.
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I think a lot of it is
because of the credibility
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that we bring to the table.
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KANDUS:
Yeah, so we are excited.
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We have a lot of leads
in the community this year.
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-Yeah, so that stigma
is breaking down...
-Mm-hmm.
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...like we've-we've said,
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and it is easier
to get people to-to speak.
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BRANDON:
Well, for you,
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for Jim and you,
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thank you for building
those relationships.
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Yeah, thank you.
You bet. Thank you.
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Thank you, everyone,
for your continued hard work.
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We all have our marching orders.
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Let's press onward.
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-Thank you.
-Thanks, Brandon.
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Fantastic. Let's get to work,
guys. We got a lot to do.
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BRANDON:
Hey, fellas.
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Finally meeting
the great Pete Kelsey.
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-Finally meeting you.
-Thank you.
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After our first meeting,
technologist Pete Kelsey arrived
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to help us with
our first experiment
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of the year at the triangle.
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Over the last couple of years,
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he's brought in numerous
scanning devices
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that have detected a lot of
phenomena all across the ranch.
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So, what do we have here?
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PETE:
That is the Hovermap.
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Um, basically, handheld LIDAR.
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I'm gonna strap myself
to your helicopter
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and see what we get.
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Are you saying you're
going to literally hang outside
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the helicopter and scan
the space with this device?
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With your permission, of course.
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Okay.
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TRAVIS:
As Cameron Fugal
flies me and Pete Kelsey
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up through the triangle,
Pete will be strapped in
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and scanning the area
with a LIDAR device.
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It works by emitting
infrared laser light
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that we hope
will reveal anything
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that can't be seen
with the naked eye,
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and might help explain
all the UAPs
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and other phenomena
we've detected up there.
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So, that is the first part
of our exercise today.
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-There's a second part.
-What's that?
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TRAVIS:
Erik's gonna turn on a broadcast
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of the 1.6 gigahertz
signal. Right?
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Then, when we get
to 5,000 feet, these guys
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are gonna launch a rocket
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from here. Now, it's gonna go up
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probably to about 1,500 feet,
no more than 2,000 feet.
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I-I feel comfortable with that.
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Now, uh, isn't-- aren't rockets
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and broadcasting at 1.6
how you make things happen here?
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THOMAS:
Yeah.
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ERIK:
Now, the first part
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of our exercise today
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is an area on
the eastern side of the property
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where we've seen anomalous data
in our photogrammetry,
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-suggestive of something.
-THOMAS: Yeah.
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Pete, you caught this
with your first scan
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with the photogrammetry.
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Now, you get to go hover
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above it in a helicopter and see
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if you can catch it
with your LIDAR.
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TRAVIS:
The east field is a location
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about a half a mile
from the triangle
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where some of the strangest
things have happened
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during our investigation.
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Spinning up.
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TRAVIS:
Right at the end of last year,
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Pete conducted a photogrammetry
scan in the east field
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near a mysterious circle
of stones
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that sits up on the mesa.
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According to
Navajo historian Jon Dover,
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ancient Indigenous people
created the feature
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to represent a portal
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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Whoa.
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-ERIK: Okay.
-THOMAS: In the sky.
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-KALEB: Right there.
-ERIK: Yes.
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-TRAVIS: Oh, weird.
-ERIK: Yes.
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TRAVIS:
Well, what Pete's scanner
detected just blew us away.
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-ERIK: Look at this structure.
-That's nuts.
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ERIK:
Well, just think
about what it would mean
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if we saw the same
kind of anomaly
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with two completely
different technologies.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, let's go ahead and, uh,
commence the experiment.
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-What all goes? Everything?
-Everything.
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ERIK:
It's generally true,
in science, that we place
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the highest confidence in
results that repeat themselves.
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So, as we survey
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just over the east field here
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and in the vicinity
of the triangle...
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-Thank you.
-You bet.
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ERIK:
...we want to understand
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whether we're dealing
with a persistent effect
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in those two regions of the
ranch because we have no idea.
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TRAVIS:
All right, so let's figure out
what hardpoint we want
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-to snap to.
-Okay, let's go around.
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While Pete scans
with his LIDAR device
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out the open door
of the helicopter,
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I'll be right beside him
watching the monitor
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00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,344
to see if the LIDAR picks up
any structure or objects.
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00:17:17,344 --> 00:17:20,896
Let me have that rocket motor
and that igniter.
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TRAVIS: Meanwhile,
Dragon, Kaleb and Thomas
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will be on the ready
to launch rockets.
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They'll also be broadcasting
the 1.6 gigahertz
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00:17:28,931 --> 00:17:32,448
communication signal that
we've recorded in the past...
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-All right, well,
we're all set up in here.
-Great.
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TRAVIS:
...which Erik and Brandon
will be monitoring
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on his systems
during the experiment.
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Both of these tools have been
very effective in stimulating
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bizarre activity
on the ranch in the past,
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so, hopefully,
by the end of today,
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we'll get some answers
about these locations.
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TRAVIS:
Hey, guys,
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uh, we're ready to go
in the chopper.
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All right, copy that.
You guys be careful up there.
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We don't want to lose Pete.
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00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:02,344
We've got him tied in
with four different ways.
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00:18:02,413 --> 00:18:04,000
Everything's checked.
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BRYANT:
This year, the first experiment
we're gonna try
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involves having one our experts
hanging out of a helicopter.
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I don't know
what's gonna happen,
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but this is a pretty
dangerous experiment,
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and I hope it yields
some results.
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00:18:16,137 --> 00:18:18,137
Here we go. Hang on, Pete.
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TRAVIS:
First, go hit
the east field, okay?
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CAMERON:
All right.
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BRANDON:
Now, we're tracking.
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Hopefully, we'll be able to
capture something interesting.
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00:18:37,241 --> 00:18:38,965
Yeah, every time
Pete's been out here,
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something interesting
has happened.
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Well, this will be good.
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00:18:41,862 --> 00:18:46,379
Activity is unpredictable
at Skinwalker Ranch.
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But we've found that
there are certain methods
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that you can utilize in order
to stimulate response.
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00:18:53,172 --> 00:18:57,551
This very aggressive experiment
is an important part
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of this stage of the
investigation and we are
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committed
to getting the answers.
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00:19:04,379 --> 00:19:07,172
Bryant, I just turned it on.
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Will you radio Erik
and see if they're seeing it?
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00:19:11,137 --> 00:19:13,000
Erik,
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00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,758
Thomas has just
turned on the 1.6.
446
00:19:17,827 --> 00:19:20,000
Just confirming if
you can see that signal or not.
447
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,655
Yeah, I've got good signal.
448
00:19:21,655 --> 00:19:23,551
BRYANT:
Terrific.
449
00:19:23,551 --> 00:19:26,758
Well, we're broadcasting
the 1.6, so...
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00:19:26,827 --> 00:19:30,620
we'll see if that
causes any reaction.
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TRAVIS:
All right, the east field.
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We should be about
over it right in here.
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CAMERON:
Okay.
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-All right,
I'm gonna start scanning.
-TRAVIS: Yup.
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00:19:40,482 --> 00:19:42,517
-All right.
-Okay.
456
00:19:43,482 --> 00:19:45,965
All right,
nice and easy, Cameron.
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00:19:45,965 --> 00:19:48,344
All right, we're going.
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I see the ground.
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00:19:58,103 --> 00:20:02,551
We're getting buffeted
from the wind a little bit.
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00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:07,000
But there's no freaking wind.
461
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,862
-Whoa! Whoa!
-Whoa!
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00:20:09,862 --> 00:20:11,344
We're getting our asses kicked.
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00:20:16,068 --> 00:20:18,344
Feel that, that's just crazy.
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00:20:18,344 --> 00:20:19,965
[grunting]
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-Oh, wow! We're getting
something.
-CAMERON: What?!
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TRAVIS:
We are getting an anomaly
in the air right now!
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00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,448
-Right there.
-You're kidding!
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00:20:29,517 --> 00:20:31,448
No, I am not kidding.
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TRAVIS: We're getting
a significant anomaly
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in the air right now.
471
00:20:41,793 --> 00:20:44,793
It was clearly an anomaly
floating in the sky.
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00:20:44,793 --> 00:20:45,793
I've been following them.
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I know, I don't see
anything either.
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00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:50,551
The helicopter is getting
buffeted out of the way
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like there's a vortex or
something here.
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00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,379
This is crazy.
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TRAVIS:
Right where we obtained
photogrammetry images
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of a mysterious
column-shaped anomaly
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above the east field
one year ago...
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There are some very interesting
artifacts showing up.
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TRAVIS:
Whoa.
482
00:21:10,275 --> 00:21:13,655
TRAVIS:
Pete Kelsey's LIDAR scanner,
which emits infrared light,
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detected an image of something
about 300 feet up in the air.
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And what was even crazier
was that some kind
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of invisible force
was literally pushing
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Brandon's helicopter
around in midair.
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00:21:28,482 --> 00:21:30,551
It looks like it's
being pushed around
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from the ground right now.
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00:21:34,034 --> 00:21:36,275
They're getting pushed around.
490
00:21:36,275 --> 00:21:38,758
You can see the helicopter,
like, rocking.
491
00:21:38,827 --> 00:21:41,655
BRYANT: And I'm picking up
nothing just visually.
492
00:21:41,655 --> 00:21:43,344
Wow!
493
00:21:47,862 --> 00:21:48,965
What the hell is going on?
494
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,965
-You see how he's moving?
-Yeah.
495
00:21:51,896 --> 00:21:54,655
Oh, my gosh, you can see.
Look at that.
496
00:21:57,793 --> 00:21:59,689
THOMAS: The helicopter
definitely looks like
497
00:21:59,689 --> 00:22:01,344
it's rocking around down here.
498
00:22:05,172 --> 00:22:07,034
TRAVIS:
The outside wind speeds
499
00:22:07,034 --> 00:22:09,448
that registered on the
helicopter's instruments
500
00:22:09,517 --> 00:22:11,000
were totally insignificant.
501
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,034
It was just this strange,
invisible force
502
00:22:14,034 --> 00:22:17,137
that we couldn't see
pushing us around.
503
00:22:17,137 --> 00:22:19,965
I have no scientific
explanation for it.
504
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,034
I just know it's where we saw
505
00:22:22,034 --> 00:22:25,241
a column-shaped anomaly above
the stone circle last year
506
00:22:25,241 --> 00:22:27,586
and now an object of some kind
507
00:22:27,586 --> 00:22:29,137
on the LIDAR readout.
508
00:22:29,137 --> 00:22:31,241
I think we're good.
We've got a really nice
509
00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:32,758
3D map of the entire area.
510
00:22:32,827 --> 00:22:34,689
-Cameron, I think we're good.
-Okay.
511
00:22:34,689 --> 00:22:37,137
TRAVIS:
I say we fly right by
the triangle.
512
00:22:37,137 --> 00:22:38,724
PETE:
Yep.
513
00:22:53,137 --> 00:22:55,241
TRAVIS:
I couldn't believe
what had happened to us
514
00:22:55,310 --> 00:22:57,862
over the east field
and the preliminary data
515
00:22:57,931 --> 00:22:59,448
we got on Pete's LIDAR scanner.
516
00:22:59,448 --> 00:23:01,379
It still needed to be processed,
517
00:23:01,379 --> 00:23:03,655
but based on our experiences
so far,
518
00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:05,172
we were really anxious
519
00:23:05,172 --> 00:23:07,655
about what we might find
above the triangle.
520
00:23:07,724 --> 00:23:09,482
I mean, we're at
the triangle right now.
521
00:23:09,482 --> 00:23:12,448
PETE:
All right, so give me
about ten seconds
522
00:23:12,448 --> 00:23:14,793
and we'll be scanning.
523
00:23:14,793 --> 00:23:16,862
TRAVIS:
Uh, it's running, it says.
524
00:23:16,862 --> 00:23:19,551
PETE:
Are you seeing data then?
525
00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:20,862
TRAVIS:
Nothing yet.
526
00:23:20,862 --> 00:23:24,793
Holy cow, there's something
right outside the aircraft.
527
00:23:24,793 --> 00:23:27,137
-You're kidding!
-TRAVIS: No, I am not kidding.
528
00:23:27,137 --> 00:23:28,344
You were at 300 feet
529
00:23:28,413 --> 00:23:30,586
and were detecting
an object in the air.
530
00:23:30,586 --> 00:23:32,000
CAMERON:
What?!
531
00:23:34,689 --> 00:23:35,793
Copy you, Cameron.
532
00:23:35,793 --> 00:23:37,448
PETE:
You've got to be kidding me.
533
00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:40,655
We are about 300 feet
above ground level.
534
00:23:40,724 --> 00:23:42,137
You can see the green
is the ground
535
00:23:42,137 --> 00:23:43,241
and the red is the thing.
536
00:23:43,241 --> 00:23:45,758
-PETE: This is unbelievable.
-Unbelievable.
537
00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:47,896
TRAVIS:
In the past, all the
phenomena we've detected
538
00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:51,586
above the triangle has been
nearly a mile up in the air.
539
00:23:51,586 --> 00:23:53,448
But as soon as Pete
started scanning
540
00:23:53,448 --> 00:23:56,482
with the LIDAR, he detected
something strange
541
00:23:56,482 --> 00:23:59,586
beginning at an altitude
of just about 300 feet.
542
00:23:59,586 --> 00:24:02,000
We had never seen
anything at the triangle
543
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,758
that close to the ground before.
544
00:24:03,827 --> 00:24:05,655
They're climbing.
545
00:24:05,724 --> 00:24:09,965
I don't know why, but I feel
really nervous about this.
546
00:24:20,482 --> 00:24:23,551
TRAVIS:
It froze up, Pete.
It's checking something.
547
00:24:23,620 --> 00:24:25,379
PETE:
Nah, it's scanning.
548
00:24:25,379 --> 00:24:27,551
Yeah, well, it's telling me
that it's checking.
549
00:24:27,551 --> 00:24:28,965
It's not writing any more data.
550
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,931
PETE:
All right, stand by.
551
00:24:38,275 --> 00:24:41,689
No, it says it's disconnected,
which is odd.
552
00:24:41,689 --> 00:24:45,379
Disconnected? That doesn't
make any sense.
553
00:24:45,379 --> 00:24:47,034
Wow, that's weird.
554
00:24:47,034 --> 00:24:50,344
Hey, well, your GPS is off
from your pressure.
555
00:24:51,379 --> 00:24:54,241
TRAVIS: We're-we're getting
discrepancies, right now.
556
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,896
Command Center, how you doing?
This is Cameron.
557
00:25:04,896 --> 00:25:07,000
[static]
558
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,758
TRAVIS:
So the ground went away.
559
00:25:08,758 --> 00:25:11,172
It was green and now
the ground's turned red.
560
00:25:11,172 --> 00:25:15,655
And, uh, the anomaly
above it is-is still red.
561
00:25:15,655 --> 00:25:17,275
I think we need to set down
and reset this thing.
562
00:25:17,275 --> 00:25:18,448
Okay.
563
00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:20,551
PETE: All right,
I'm going to stop scanning.
564
00:25:25,689 --> 00:25:27,000
-[instruments beeping]
-Uh...
565
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,655
TRAVIS: Whoa.
566
00:25:29,793 --> 00:25:31,551
Oh, my goodness.
567
00:25:31,551 --> 00:25:32,827
TRAVIS: Whoa.
568
00:25:46,068 --> 00:25:48,448
Why'd they land in the field?
569
00:25:49,379 --> 00:25:51,068
Radio them.
570
00:25:51,068 --> 00:25:53,448
Travis, do you copy?
571
00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:03,551
Hey, Erik, do you copy
inside the Command Center?
572
00:26:03,551 --> 00:26:05,344
Yes, I do. What's up?
573
00:26:05,344 --> 00:26:07,000
BRYANT: I want to reach out
to Cameron.
574
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,655
They ended up landing out
in the field
575
00:26:08,724 --> 00:26:10,551
for some odd reason.
576
00:26:10,620 --> 00:26:12,068
ERIK:
In the field?
577
00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:29,793
We're reset, we're about
to relaunch
578
00:26:29,793 --> 00:26:30,758
and go do it again.
579
00:26:30,758 --> 00:26:32,586
BRYANT:
Copy that.
580
00:26:32,586 --> 00:26:35,103
We'll keep our eyes
on you as well.
581
00:26:49,482 --> 00:26:50,655
TRAVIS: Yep.
582
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:53,965
TRAVIS:
Understood.
583
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,448
After we finished our LIDAR
scan above the east field,
584
00:26:57,517 --> 00:27:00,758
we were eager to head
southwest to the triangle.
585
00:27:02,344 --> 00:27:05,655
-All right, I'm going
to start scanning.
-Yep.
586
00:27:05,655 --> 00:27:07,551
Just let me know
when you've got data.
587
00:27:07,620 --> 00:27:08,862
We're getting data right now,
588
00:27:08,862 --> 00:27:12,241
there is something right
outside the aircraft.
589
00:27:14,862 --> 00:27:17,000
As soon as we approached
the triangle,
590
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,689
we started detecting
some kind of anomaly again
591
00:27:19,689 --> 00:27:22,000
right around 300 feet high.
592
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,172
I was getting really anxious
593
00:27:23,172 --> 00:27:25,655
about what was going to
happen next.
594
00:27:27,586 --> 00:27:30,310
Just start spiraling up,
Cameron.
595
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,862
Copy you, Cameron.
596
00:27:54,896 --> 00:27:56,862
-Holy cow!
-PETE: What, what, what?
597
00:27:56,931 --> 00:27:58,344
Look at that.
598
00:27:59,586 --> 00:28:01,241
-You see it?
-PETE: Yes.
599
00:28:01,241 --> 00:28:02,793
TRAVIS:
We've got an anomaly,
600
00:28:02,793 --> 00:28:06,517
a clear anomaly right beside us.
601
00:28:07,551 --> 00:28:10,551
We've had eyes on it
with three sets of binoculars
602
00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:12,206
and we've seen nothing.
603
00:28:13,379 --> 00:28:15,206
TRAVIS:
Uh, we at 5,000 feet?
604
00:28:16,448 --> 00:28:17,862
We're almost there.
605
00:28:26,275 --> 00:28:27,931
Tell them to launch.
606
00:28:29,689 --> 00:28:32,275
TRAVIS:
Right as we reached
the mile-high zone,
607
00:28:32,275 --> 00:28:34,965
this huge mass showed up
on the LIDAR,
608
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,586
and with the 1.6 gigahertz
signal being broadcast,
609
00:28:37,586 --> 00:28:39,655
it was time to launch a rocket
610
00:28:39,655 --> 00:28:41,724
and poke this nest
as hard as we could.
611
00:28:42,689 --> 00:28:46,241
Three, two, one!
612
00:28:48,379 --> 00:28:49,965
There it goes!
613
00:29:03,482 --> 00:29:05,137
Yeah.
614
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,655
TRAVIS: Which is what we've
seen before, Cameron.
615
00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:19,344
Right here.
616
00:29:44,793 --> 00:29:46,206
TRAVIS:
Wow.
617
00:29:50,482 --> 00:29:52,758
-Whoa! Whoa!
-CAMERON: Whoa!
618
00:29:55,586 --> 00:29:56,862
PETE:
There you go.
619
00:30:03,275 --> 00:30:04,758
TRAVIS:
Wow.
620
00:30:17,379 --> 00:30:19,551
[instruments beeping]
621
00:30:20,862 --> 00:30:22,448
[beeping]
622
00:30:30,862 --> 00:30:32,413
Yeah, we got a downdraft
right there.
623
00:30:32,413 --> 00:30:34,103
-A little ass kick there.
-CAMERON: Yeah, yeah.
624
00:30:34,103 --> 00:30:35,241
TRAVIS: As we approached
the mile-high zone
625
00:30:35,241 --> 00:30:36,689
above the triangle,
626
00:30:36,689 --> 00:30:40,862
where we saw a UAP literally
disappear one year ago,
627
00:30:40,862 --> 00:30:43,206
really strange winds
started encircling
628
00:30:43,206 --> 00:30:44,965
the helicopter like a vortex.
629
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,310
It really made me nervous
630
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:49,000
about what the hell
we were flying into.
631
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,758
Yeah, I think
it's time to abort.
632
00:30:54,206 --> 00:30:57,551
Copy you, Cameron.
We will clear the helipad.
633
00:30:57,620 --> 00:31:00,379
ERIK: It's exciting to see
that we're getting
634
00:31:00,379 --> 00:31:01,758
interesting returns
in real time
635
00:31:01,758 --> 00:31:05,206
over the east field
and over the triangle.
636
00:31:05,206 --> 00:31:06,793
-Pretty wild.
-Holy crap.
637
00:31:06,793 --> 00:31:10,310
I really want to know are these
real features that we're seeing?
638
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:11,965
Shake my hand.
639
00:31:11,965 --> 00:31:13,379
Heck yeah.
640
00:31:13,379 --> 00:31:15,413
Wow, you guys.
641
00:31:15,413 --> 00:31:18,206
TRAVIS: Y'all are not
going to believe this.
642
00:31:18,206 --> 00:31:20,241
THOMAS: Well, Pete's face
has me thinking
643
00:31:20,241 --> 00:31:22,448
you guys caught
something amazing.
644
00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:23,275
What did you see?
645
00:31:23,275 --> 00:31:24,413
TRAVIS:
There is an anomaly
646
00:31:24,413 --> 00:31:26,655
that this LIDAR
picked up in midair!
647
00:31:26,724 --> 00:31:29,482
300 or 400 feet
above the ground.
648
00:31:29,482 --> 00:31:32,068
It's impossible.
It's impossible.
649
00:31:32,068 --> 00:31:33,586
It remained there, too.
650
00:31:33,586 --> 00:31:35,896
It wasn't a quick blip.
As we circled
651
00:31:35,896 --> 00:31:37,551
and made orbits, it-it remained.
652
00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:39,862
Let's process the data
as soon as possible.
653
00:31:39,931 --> 00:31:42,655
Cameron and I want a full
report at earliest convenience.
654
00:31:42,724 --> 00:31:44,413
Well, we got to go
crunch some data.
655
00:31:44,413 --> 00:31:45,655
-Yes, we do.
-Okay.
656
00:31:45,655 --> 00:31:48,655
-Yeah, let's go.
-Let's get on that data!
657
00:31:48,655 --> 00:31:50,103
-Yeah.
-I want to take
this harness off!
658
00:31:50,103 --> 00:31:51,758
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
659
00:31:56,482 --> 00:31:59,275
ERIK: Well, guys, we've got
Brandon and Cameron and Pete
660
00:31:59,275 --> 00:32:00,482
on the line for video call.
661
00:32:00,482 --> 00:32:01,586
TRAVIS:
Oh, yeah.
662
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:02,758
Hey, Brandon.
663
00:32:02,827 --> 00:32:03,965
Hey, greetings.
664
00:32:03,965 --> 00:32:05,448
It's good to be with you.
665
00:32:05,448 --> 00:32:07,689
TRAVIS:
Pete Kelsey spent
two days processing
666
00:32:07,689 --> 00:32:09,965
all the LIDAR data we collected
667
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,862
above the east field
and the triangle,
668
00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:14,137
so we couldn't wait to review it
with him and Brandon.
669
00:32:14,137 --> 00:32:17,655
We needed to figure out what
we'd encountered up there
670
00:32:17,724 --> 00:32:19,172
that had affected
the helicopter's flight
671
00:32:19,172 --> 00:32:21,275
and controls so dramatically.
672
00:32:21,275 --> 00:32:25,241
PETE:
This is the data from
the helicopter flight.
673
00:32:25,793 --> 00:32:28,275
TRAVIS:
So here we are
over the east field.
674
00:32:28,275 --> 00:32:32,896
PETE:
What you're seeing,
the icon of course is us.
675
00:32:32,896 --> 00:32:36,103
The magenta line
is our trajectory,
676
00:32:36,103 --> 00:32:38,862
that is the direction
we're flying.
677
00:32:38,931 --> 00:32:42,275
And we can see that the data
is following the aircraft.
678
00:32:42,275 --> 00:32:45,655
TRAVIS:
Something about it that was--
oh, right there it did...
679
00:32:45,655 --> 00:32:47,689
See how it's doing
these zigzag jumps?
680
00:32:47,689 --> 00:32:49,344
Something moved the helicopter.
681
00:32:49,344 --> 00:32:50,758
It-it was unbelievable.
682
00:32:50,827 --> 00:32:53,758
I mean, we were all like,
"Whoa! What was that?!"
683
00:32:53,758 --> 00:32:56,275
It wasn't just left
and right oscillations,
684
00:32:56,275 --> 00:32:57,758
it was forward and aft,
685
00:32:57,827 --> 00:33:00,172
left and right
all almost simultaneous.
686
00:33:00,172 --> 00:33:02,862
It was as if you
had two magnets
687
00:33:02,931 --> 00:33:04,862
next to each other,
repelling each other.
688
00:33:04,931 --> 00:33:07,000
Whatever it was,
it was trying to push us off.
689
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
You know, I think that has
to mean something.
690
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,206
PETE:
That's right.
691
00:33:10,206 --> 00:33:12,379
Now I'll call
your attention to...
692
00:33:12,379 --> 00:33:16,862
We have anomalous data
in the same general area.
693
00:33:18,379 --> 00:33:21,206
TRAVIS:
So, here we are
over the east field.
694
00:33:21,206 --> 00:33:22,689
BRANDON:
Oh, wow.
695
00:33:22,689 --> 00:33:24,241
This is right where
I had the interference
696
00:33:24,241 --> 00:33:26,758
-with the helicopter
as well, isn't it?
-Yes.
697
00:33:26,827 --> 00:33:30,034
TRAVIS:
And-and there's where
I said you know what?
698
00:33:30,034 --> 00:33:32,068
We've got an anomaly
in the spot again.
699
00:33:32,068 --> 00:33:35,896
-This red feature.
-That red feature
floating in midair.
700
00:33:35,896 --> 00:33:38,000
Above... And there's
no trail to it.
701
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,068
Be advised, I should
disclose some issues
702
00:33:41,068 --> 00:33:43,034
with this first scan.
703
00:33:43,034 --> 00:33:46,758
This is the incredibly
frustrating part.
704
00:33:46,758 --> 00:33:48,379
I've spoken with the vendor,
705
00:33:48,379 --> 00:33:51,000
I mean, we've gone
through it at length.
706
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,793
The vendor looked at this and
went, "Nah, you're ghosting."
707
00:33:54,793 --> 00:33:58,172
And ghosting is just...
708
00:33:58,172 --> 00:34:02,655
the scanner picking up
probably my feet, the skid.
709
00:34:02,724 --> 00:34:05,034
THOMAS:
Well, I would just expect
consistency.
710
00:34:05,034 --> 00:34:06,551
You know, if you're
picking up returns
711
00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:08,275
from the blades above
or the skid below,
712
00:34:08,275 --> 00:34:10,413
then I would expect to see
that through the whole thing,
713
00:34:10,413 --> 00:34:14,206
-but the fact that you're only
seeing it over one point...
-Yeah.
714
00:34:14,206 --> 00:34:19,655
What is it about this ranch
that continues to throw us off?
715
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,793
TRAVIS:
It was really sobering to all
of us to hear from Pete Kelsey
716
00:34:23,793 --> 00:34:26,448
that the LIDAR data might not
have been accurate.
717
00:34:26,448 --> 00:34:28,793
But there were certain
things about it
718
00:34:28,793 --> 00:34:30,965
that just couldn't
be explained away.
719
00:34:30,965 --> 00:34:33,862
Pete, go forward, let me...
I'll tell you when to stop.
720
00:34:33,862 --> 00:34:36,000
Go forward about...
Right there, right there. Stop.
721
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,482
Now, when you look at that,
722
00:34:37,482 --> 00:34:40,448
this is right dead center over
723
00:34:40,448 --> 00:34:42,000
where the column was there
724
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,310
in your photogrammetry data.
725
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:46,103
And-and if you look,
726
00:34:46,103 --> 00:34:48,172
there's no pathway to it,
727
00:34:48,172 --> 00:34:53,379
it's not anomalous
features until that spot.
728
00:34:53,379 --> 00:34:54,275
Wow.
729
00:34:54,275 --> 00:34:56,172
TRAVIS:
In the exact same spot
730
00:34:56,172 --> 00:34:57,344
where we identified
731
00:34:57,344 --> 00:34:59,862
the column-like anomaly
one year ago,
732
00:34:59,862 --> 00:35:03,068
we now have a second kind
of scanning technology
733
00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:06,137
that seems to be detecting
something strange again.
734
00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:09,448
If you can back up
two frames, Pete.
735
00:35:10,241 --> 00:35:12,896
Stop! Perfect. Look at that.
736
00:35:12,896 --> 00:35:14,931
I-I'm gonna go to the screen
737
00:35:16,068 --> 00:35:18,413
So, come on, guys, we've got...
738
00:35:18,413 --> 00:35:20,172
some kind of wing-like features.
739
00:35:20,172 --> 00:35:21,241
I mean, you look at that,
740
00:35:21,241 --> 00:35:23,862
there's three-dimensional
detail here.
741
00:35:23,931 --> 00:35:25,413
There was nothing there.
742
00:35:25,413 --> 00:35:27,172
We flew a helicopter
and we wouldn't fly
743
00:35:27,172 --> 00:35:28,758
that close to an object
like that.
744
00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:30,241
This distance right here
from there to there
745
00:35:30,241 --> 00:35:31,551
is probably ten meters.
746
00:35:31,620 --> 00:35:34,689
Look at it. It tends to
have a shape to it.
747
00:35:34,689 --> 00:35:35,758
CAMERON:
Oh, my gosh.
748
00:35:35,758 --> 00:35:37,068
That's actually pretty distinct.
749
00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:40,241
That is compelling.
750
00:35:40,241 --> 00:35:41,965
Now, if we were standing
751
00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:45,172
in the road of the driveway
looking north,
752
00:35:45,172 --> 00:35:47,034
and we took Pete's
photogrammetry data
753
00:35:47,034 --> 00:35:48,310
and overlaid it on this image,
754
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:51,034
you would see the pillar
755
00:35:51,034 --> 00:35:52,344
come up just like this.
756
00:35:52,344 --> 00:35:54,655
Right where this spot is.
757
00:36:00,172 --> 00:36:01,275
Wow.
758
00:36:01,275 --> 00:36:02,482
TRAVIS:
In the same spot
759
00:36:02,482 --> 00:36:04,724
where we detected a
column-shaped anomaly last year,
760
00:36:04,724 --> 00:36:06,000
our LIDAR experiment
761
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,724
may have also identified
something strange.
762
00:36:10,379 --> 00:36:12,206
And this is right near
a location
763
00:36:12,206 --> 00:36:13,724
on top of the mesa
764
00:36:13,724 --> 00:36:15,517
where ancient Indigenous people
765
00:36:15,517 --> 00:36:18,551
built a stone monument
that's meant to represent
766
00:36:18,551 --> 00:36:20,965
a portal on Skinwalker Ranch.
767
00:36:20,965 --> 00:36:22,896
BRANDON:
What could that be?
768
00:36:22,896 --> 00:36:24,172
We don't know what it is,
769
00:36:24,172 --> 00:36:27,000
but there's something that was
anomalous about that spot,
770
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,310
and we got it on multiple
sensors now, at least two.
771
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:32,586
BRANDON:
I'm sitting here
just stunned
772
00:36:32,586 --> 00:36:34,689
because, I mean, no matter what,
773
00:36:34,689 --> 00:36:38,137
we're dealing with something
that is a mystery.
774
00:36:38,137 --> 00:36:40,551
And that it's only over
the east field?
775
00:36:40,551 --> 00:36:43,000
Oh, it happened
at the triangle, too.
776
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,758
PETE:
All right, guys, what
I'm going to bring up now
777
00:36:45,758 --> 00:36:47,586
-is the data at the triangle.
-Yep.
778
00:36:47,586 --> 00:36:52,000
PETE:
There is what appears
to be ghosting
779
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,344
along the trajectory
that we actually flew.
780
00:36:55,344 --> 00:36:57,862
TRAVIS: But why so many
in the one spot
781
00:36:57,862 --> 00:37:00,896
as we're, uh, circling
around the triangle?
782
00:37:00,896 --> 00:37:04,103
Well, again, I would
expect if you're seeing, uh,
783
00:37:04,103 --> 00:37:07,551
returns from either
the-the blades above
784
00:37:07,551 --> 00:37:09,413
or the-the skid below,
785
00:37:09,413 --> 00:37:11,620
that it would be consistent
through the whole flight.
786
00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:13,862
But that's the weird part.
Why is it not?
787
00:37:13,862 --> 00:37:18,413
PETE:
So, I-I'm with you, I mean,
there's no trajectory line
788
00:37:18,413 --> 00:37:20,586
where this first showed up.
You see that?
789
00:37:20,586 --> 00:37:22,655
-Yep.
-PETE: To cut to the chase,
790
00:37:22,655 --> 00:37:27,103
I don't think this is 100%
conclusive in either direction.
791
00:37:27,103 --> 00:37:28,724
I-I agree with that.
792
00:37:29,586 --> 00:37:31,620
BRANDON:
Yeah, it is so frustrating,
793
00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:34,000
because it seems
like we're so close
794
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,344
to understanding
what we are dealing with.
795
00:37:37,344 --> 00:37:38,827
We're seeing these things
appearing
796
00:37:38,827 --> 00:37:41,517
that have no conventional
explanation.
797
00:37:41,517 --> 00:37:44,413
It-It's so damn elusive.
798
00:37:44,413 --> 00:37:46,965
I... If there's any way
799
00:37:46,965 --> 00:37:50,620
we can execute on
another experiment
800
00:37:50,620 --> 00:37:53,034
in rapid succession to this,
801
00:37:53,034 --> 00:37:55,137
to seize this moment,
802
00:37:55,137 --> 00:37:58,482
and get some answers,
I say go for it.
803
00:37:58,482 --> 00:38:00,448
TRAVIS:
Well, uh, first and foremost,
804
00:38:00,448 --> 00:38:02,206
Pete, uh, and Cameron,
805
00:38:02,206 --> 00:38:04,448
the two of you may recall,
but if I recall,
806
00:38:04,448 --> 00:38:06,586
I think we were about, uh...
807
00:38:06,586 --> 00:38:09,275
300, 400 feet or
something like that, right?
808
00:38:09,275 --> 00:38:10,827
Seems about right.
809
00:38:10,827 --> 00:38:12,137
ERIK:
There's something new here.
810
00:38:12,137 --> 00:38:15,000
You know, uh, some
of the interesting returns
811
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,689
were happening at
much lower altitudes
812
00:38:16,689 --> 00:38:19,517
than, uh, we've, uh...
813
00:38:19,517 --> 00:38:22,310
-A thousand feet or more lower.
-ERIK: Right.
814
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:24,655
During previous experiments
at the triangle,
815
00:38:24,655 --> 00:38:26,689
it seemed that
different phenomena
816
00:38:26,689 --> 00:38:28,655
occurred about 5,000 feet high.
817
00:38:28,655 --> 00:38:31,172
But now,
if the LIDAR data is correct,
818
00:38:31,172 --> 00:38:33,448
it appears that something
is going on between
819
00:38:33,448 --> 00:38:35,344
300 feet and that zone.
820
00:38:35,344 --> 00:38:36,827
Look, you see that?
821
00:38:36,827 --> 00:38:38,482
TRAVIS:
I do, did you see it bend?
822
00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:40,172
Dude, did you see that?
823
00:38:40,172 --> 00:38:44,137
TRAVIS:
Last year, we were stunned
to see lasers projected
824
00:38:44,137 --> 00:38:47,137
up through the triangle
mysteriously bend.
825
00:38:47,137 --> 00:38:48,965
There it goes.
826
00:38:49,241 --> 00:38:51,655
And rockets that we
launched up there
827
00:38:51,655 --> 00:38:53,689
get completely deflected
off target
828
00:38:53,689 --> 00:38:55,482
by something we couldn't see.
829
00:38:55,482 --> 00:38:58,517
And those things did happen
at various altitudes.
830
00:38:58,517 --> 00:39:00,137
What was that bend all about?
831
00:39:00,137 --> 00:39:02,344
So, could that mean
that the anomalous zone
832
00:39:02,344 --> 00:39:04,000
is shifting along
a vertical plane
833
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,620
between 300 and 5,000 feet?
834
00:39:06,620 --> 00:39:10,000
Or does it mean that it
may cover the entire space?
835
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,482
At this point, we don't know
if we can trust the LIDAR data,
836
00:39:13,482 --> 00:39:16,379
so we're gonna have to
find another way to verify
837
00:39:16,379 --> 00:39:19,827
what we found at both the
triangle and the
east field.
838
00:39:19,827 --> 00:39:23,758
We really need to look over
the triangle area at,
839
00:39:23,758 --> 00:39:25,620
you know, 400 feet or so.
840
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:27,931
So how do you envision
that being done?
841
00:39:27,931 --> 00:39:32,413
Uh, you know, you could
get a-a swarm of drones.
842
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:35,103
-Because they all fly on
GPS coordinates.
-I like it.
843
00:39:35,103 --> 00:39:36,551
TRAVIS:
And fly them in a grid pattern,
844
00:39:36,551 --> 00:39:38,034
and fly them around out there
and see what happens.
845
00:39:38,034 --> 00:39:40,586
And, you know, the way we've
seen GPS messed up,
846
00:39:40,586 --> 00:39:42,206
who knows what it would do?
847
00:39:42,206 --> 00:39:43,724
You know, these people
probably go...
848
00:39:43,724 --> 00:39:45,413
People that do these drone
swarms for like light shows
849
00:39:45,413 --> 00:39:48,034
and stuff, they are precise.
850
00:39:48,034 --> 00:39:50,551
And the patterns do all
these geometric shapes.
851
00:39:50,551 --> 00:39:52,103
You get them out here and
fly them over the triangle
852
00:39:52,103 --> 00:39:54,000
where the GPS messes up, there's
no telling what you would see.
853
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,655
BRANDON:
No pumping the brakes
at this point.
854
00:39:55,655 --> 00:39:57,517
Let's just go full steam ahead.
855
00:39:57,517 --> 00:39:59,206
TRAVIS:
Well, let's do it.
Let's move forward.
856
00:39:59,206 --> 00:40:00,965
KALEB:
Yeah, let's go.
857
00:40:01,896 --> 00:40:04,379
TRAVIS:
There's something odd
going on at this ranch.
858
00:40:04,379 --> 00:40:07,275
I want to know
the answer to so many things.
859
00:40:07,275 --> 00:40:10,000
Just what in the world
is going on here?
860
00:40:10,689 --> 00:40:12,758
ERIK:
Every time we begin this work,
861
00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:14,724
I never know what to expect.
862
00:40:14,724 --> 00:40:18,827
And I've been surprised if
not shocked by the outcome
863
00:40:18,827 --> 00:40:21,724
of each of our
aggressive experiments.
864
00:40:21,724 --> 00:40:23,344
This year, we have
some things in mind
865
00:40:23,344 --> 00:40:25,068
that might also be
considered aggressive,
866
00:40:25,068 --> 00:40:26,275
but also visionary
867
00:40:26,275 --> 00:40:28,896
and quite different
from what we've done before.
868
00:40:29,758 --> 00:40:31,413
BRYANT:
Coming into this investigation,
869
00:40:31,413 --> 00:40:33,758
we had such little information.
870
00:40:33,758 --> 00:40:35,034
But now it's coming to light
871
00:40:35,034 --> 00:40:37,379
that so many different
government entities
872
00:40:37,379 --> 00:40:39,137
were so interested
in this place,
873
00:40:39,137 --> 00:40:41,689
it makes me feel like
we're truly on to something
874
00:40:41,689 --> 00:40:43,482
and all eyes are watching.
875
00:40:43,482 --> 00:40:46,379
BRANDON:
My hope is to find answers.
876
00:40:46,379 --> 00:40:49,275
Gain new insights,
be able to understand
877
00:40:49,275 --> 00:40:52,448
the nature of what we are
dealing with at the ranch.
878
00:40:52,448 --> 00:40:55,689
The deeper down
the rabbit hole that we travel,
879
00:40:55,689 --> 00:40:58,206
the more complex
that it appears.
880
00:40:58,206 --> 00:41:02,482
There are no easy answers
at Skinwalker Ranch.
881
00:41:03,448 --> 00:41:06,379
THOMAS: I really don't know
what to expect here
at the ranch.
882
00:41:06,379 --> 00:41:07,793
Okay, we've got
a light that's moving.
883
00:41:07,793 --> 00:41:09,103
TRAVIS:
There it is, right there!
884
00:41:09,103 --> 00:41:11,758
That looks like
a bona fide UFO to me.
885
00:41:11,758 --> 00:41:14,482
ERIK:
There is something metallic
in the mesa.
886
00:41:14,482 --> 00:41:15,965
Whatever this is,
is as tall as the mesa.
887
00:41:15,965 --> 00:41:19,241
We should be digging,
drilling right there.
888
00:41:19,241 --> 00:41:22,103
BRANDON:
The closer that we are getting
to the answers,
889
00:41:22,103 --> 00:41:24,068
the more covert
military activity.
890
00:41:24,068 --> 00:41:25,793
TRAVIS:
We have a helicopter
right over the triangle!
891
00:41:25,793 --> 00:41:27,000
BRYANT:
It just went dark!
892
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,034
It was a Black Hawk helicopter.
893
00:41:29,034 --> 00:41:31,586
-THOMAS: Somebody's up
on the ridge.
-TRAVIS: Right there!
894
00:41:31,586 --> 00:41:35,413
BRANDON: We seem to be poking
the hornet's nest like
never before.
895
00:41:35,413 --> 00:41:37,137
There's a heat source
right above them.
896
00:41:37,137 --> 00:41:38,413
Do you feel like this may be
897
00:41:38,413 --> 00:41:40,310
-a dangerous area
to be working in?
-Very.
898
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:42,137
The coyotes
didn't kill this animal.
899
00:41:42,137 --> 00:41:45,758
Middle of the day, an orb like
that showing up, that's crazy.
900
00:41:45,758 --> 00:41:48,241
ERIK: This is the largest
scale experiment
901
00:41:48,241 --> 00:41:49,655
that we've ever done
here so far.
902
00:41:49,655 --> 00:41:52,448
-Fire!
-TRAVIS: We've got
a malfunction!
903
00:41:52,448 --> 00:41:55,448
There's something in the sky
above the rocket!
904
00:41:55,448 --> 00:41:56,482
We're maybe looking
at the anomaly
905
00:41:56,482 --> 00:41:58,344
for the first time, guys.
906
00:41:58,344 --> 00:42:00,000
BRYANT: There is definitely
something here
907
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,448
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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