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Whoa, what was that?!
I saw something,
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just boom,
real quick, across the sky.
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We need a much larger rocket
that can go up through
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the triangle
and multiple very large lasers.
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You are proposing
something on a grand scale.
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-TRAVIS: There it goes.
-DAVE: Oh, [bleep]. Let's go.
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Oh, my God.
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ERIK:
Travis, you-you got to see this.
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BRANDON:
It disappeared.
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TRAVIS:
What did it disappear into?
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BRANDON:
Are we seeing portals opening?
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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-Hey, Pete.
-Hey, hey.
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ERIK:
Yeah, it's good
to have you back.
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Can't wait to see what
you're packing this time.
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-[chuckles]
-How's it going?
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TRAVIS:
We've had
the most incredible year yet
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investigating and stimulating
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all kinds of strange phenomena
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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But the weather is
about to turn really harsh,
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as fall sets in, meaning
that we're out of time
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to conduct any more
large-scale experiments.
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PETE:
I brought some goodies.
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-We can do photogrammetry.
-Now, that's good.
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TRAVIS: So we invited
technologist Pete Kelsey back
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to perform a final high-tech
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3D photogrammetry drone scan
of the entire ranch.
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Well, I'm excited
to have you out here.
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-It'd be great
to take you back to the mesa.
-Let's go.
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All right. Let's do it.
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TRAVIS:
Photogrammetry is a process
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where thousands
of high-definition photographs
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are taken of an area of interest
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and combined to create a
detailed three-dimensional map,
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potentially
revealing features
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that aren't visible
to the naked eye.
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-THOMAS:
About right here is good.
-TRAVIS: All right.
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Before we have to put
our investigation
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on hold until next year,
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we want to get a 3D model
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of every part of the ranch
to see if any anomalies appear.
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If something shows up,
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maybe it will help us determine
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what is behind all the UAPs
and the other phenomena
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that we've documented here.
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-This looks great.
-Uh-huh.
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TRAVIS:
Well, start, uh, getting set up
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-and let's do this thing.
-PETE: Okay.
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ERIK:
Pete Kelsey has brought
on some of the most advanced
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technology one can get
his hands on.
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-PETE: Have a matching set,
thank you.
-BRYANT: Okay, yeah, sure.
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ERIK:
This drone is
a robotic flying platform
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that has
exquisite spatial awareness.
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That very precise
positional awareness
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is essential for reconstructing
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an accurate three-dimensional
model of the property.
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We're interested to find out
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whether the results will
bear out anything anomalous.
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PETE:
Well, I'm ready
when you guys are.
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ERIK:
Great. We need to get back
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to the command center
to work on some stuff.
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Maybe we'll just
leave you to go at it.
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Yeah, I've got all my stuff
here, so I'll just have at it.
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Okay, well, if it's all right
with you I'll stick around.
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I don't like leaving
guests out here by themselves.
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So, if you're okay with some
company, I'll stay with you.
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-I... I appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
-Okay, happy to.
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All right. Well, we'll load up
and head back.
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PETE:
So, once all the data
I've collected
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is post-processed in a nice,
neat package, I hand that
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to Erik, and he does
the heavy lifting, and that is
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spending hours and hours
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going through this data,
because it's all visual.
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All right, I've got
all green lights here.
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Spinning up.
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♪
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Literally it comes down
to putting eyes on the model
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and looking
for anything interesting.
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Have a look.
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BRYANT:
That's so cool.
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That's amazing.
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TRAVIS:
While Pete was conducting
his photogrammetry scan
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of the ranch,
I went to my trailer
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to have a videoconference with
author and renowned astronomer
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Seth Shostak.
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Hello, Seth. How you doing?
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-Travis, good to see you.
-It's been a while.
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Uh, I wanted to catch up
with you and...
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Now, Seth is
the senior astronomer
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for the institute known as SETI.
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Which stands for the Search
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for
Extraterrestrial Intelligence.
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I wanted to talk to him about
the mysterious
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1.6 gigahertz signal
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that we've been detecting
on the ranch,
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which I believe could be some
kind of communication signal.
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As you know,
I'm out here as part
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of this investigation
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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And we're actually finding
some really weird stuff.
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We're finding
optical phenomena
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and all sorts of
different regimes of energy.
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And even a strange RF signal
at 1.6 gigahertz.
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And what I wanted to ask you
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is, if I found a signal
that I thought
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was
an intelligent communication,
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what protocols
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SETI would use
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in a situation like that?
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Uh, to start, you know,
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verifying,
validating and reporting?
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Well, there is a protocol.
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In fact, I was the chair
of the, uh, committee
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that revised those protocols
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about five years ago.
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First thing is,
if you pick up a signal that
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you think might be ET,
you want to make sure it isn't
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a telecommunications satellite,
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it isn't the radar down
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at a local airport
or anything like that.
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The second thing you do is,
you tell everybody.
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You would want to do that
because you want people
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at other facilities
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to check out the signal, too.
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I see.
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So, let me ask you a question.
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Say we have confirmed
an optical, uh... signal.
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And it's repeatable.
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If you go through the process
and you...
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rule out all of the...
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potential, uh, logical culprits.
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The microwave oven,
an airplane...
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a-a satellite,
you know, those types of things.
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What would be your next step
in, in, uh, verifying?
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Well, as to say, uh, you know,
you're really critically
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dependent
on being able to verify
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the signal
at some other facility.
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So, you would insist on
finding it somewhere else.
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Right.
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All right, Erik.
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She's about to broadcast it.
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Seth's suggestion
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that we would want confirmation
of the 1.6 gigahertz
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communication signal
at another location struck me
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because that's exactly
what happened a month ago
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at the Jack FM radio station
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about 11 miles
north of Skinwalker Ranch.
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After the station manager
and DJ, Jenn Rook,
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told me and Erik that
the same kind of signal had
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infiltrated their airwaves,
we decided to see what
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would happen
if she broadcast it back out.
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-There it is.
-Wow.
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It really changed
her waveform big-time.
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Well, the next day, Jim Morse
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showed us some incredible
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videos of UAPs
that were recorded
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by people in the area
later that night.
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ERIK:
Jim, When was this video taken?
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Last night, about 8:00 p.m.
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-Really?
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That's just a few hours
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after we played that sound
on the radio, Erik.
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No kidding.
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Well, it sounds
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as if the signal
you're picking up is
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generated locally, right?
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That there's something
in your immediate area
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that is producing this signal.
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Is that kind of what
you're suggesting here?
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Yep.
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So imagine,
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you know,
an advanced civilization
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wanted to communicate
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in real time,
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what type of phenomenology
or telltale signs
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might SETI look for?
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If it's really coming
from another society,
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it would be in one direction.
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And that's kind of the clue,
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that you would see it coming
from that direction on the sky.
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I think that's exactly
what I wanted to hear, Seth.
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It was interesting how Seth,
a highly accredited scientist
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who researches
the potential for ET life,
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believed the type
of communication signal
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we've detected would come from
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a specific direction,
because that's
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exactly what
happened on the ranch.
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Go back the other way.
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Five weeks ago, when we detected
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the 1.6 gigahertz signal,
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it came from a specific spot.
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It's coming back.
Right there, right there, stop.
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Where we had just launched
a rocket near Homestead Two.
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-So it's very directional.
-Yeah.
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Are you kidding me?
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And then, later that night,
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Erik recorded an incredible UAP
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moving around the homestead.
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We can't be for sure
if that communication signal
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we've detected was
what led to the UAP appearing,
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or if it represents
more evidence
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that portals could really exist
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on Skinwalker Ranch,
but talking with Seth
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just makes me more convinced
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that we are getting closer
to some answers.
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That helps me a lot.
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I really appreciate it.
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Well, any time, Travis. You
know, it's always my pleasure
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-to speak with you.
-Yeah, me, too, man.
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If we do find something
and we need to get someone
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out here to verify, uh,
I'll give you a call.
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-Thanks, Travis.
-Uh-huh.
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Buh-bye.
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BRYANT:
Howdy, Erik.
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-Hey.
-How's it going, Erik?
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That's a pretty picture of the
mesa that you got there, Erik.
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Oh, you, you
are gonna enjoy this.
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TRAVIS:
The day after
Pete Kelsey conducted
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his photogrammetry scan
of the ranch,
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he sent Erik all of his
compiled data files
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for us to review.
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ERIK: Well, I've got only
about a billion data points.
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Of course this comes out of Pete
Kelsey's recent survey work.
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This is
a three-dimensional model.
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It's point-cloud data.
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What it is,
is individual points that
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have been located through
a complex algorithm
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coming out
of all these thousands
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of pictures that he's taken.
So you take all those images,
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you stitch them together
and you get a three-dimensional
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-model. Oh, yeah.
-That's incredible.
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Yeah, so, I've
been diving into this.
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And turns out there are some
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very interesting artifacts
showing up.
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-Whoa! I just saw one.
-You might. Did you see it?
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-Yeah. In the sky.
-Okay.
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-KALEB: Oh. Right there.
-ERIK: Yes!
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-TRAVIS: Oh, weird.
-ERIK: Yes.
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THOMAS:
That looks like that's a whole
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-bunch of points right there.
-Oh, it is.
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Well, what would cause it to
do that if that's up in the air?
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That's the question.
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Look at this structure.
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This phantom structure
that's sticking up in the sky.
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-TRAVIS: This is odd.
I got to tell you...
-ERIK: There it is.
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TRAVIS:
Wow, that thing is really
prominent from here, it's like,
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-it's a...
some sort of big feature.
-ERIK: Yeah.
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ERIK:
You know, it looks more
than a hundred feet in the air.
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That's nuts.
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ERIK: One way of interpreting
this is to say
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that the drone did not,
uh, properly register
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its correct GPS position
when it took the pictures.
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-Were you thinking that?
-I was, I was about to suggest
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that we've had such trouble
with those drones
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and their GPS coordinates
being spoofed,
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-hacked or jammed.
-ERIK: Yes. Yes.
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What if it thought it was
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somewhere else
when it took those pictures?
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-But you've
got tens of positions.
-ERIK: Correct.
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TRAVIS:
That-that should
cancel itself out.
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Well, you'd have to have
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a lingering condition
in that space
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that causes
some sort of displacement,
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some phantom displacement
of the reckoned position,
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the measured position
of the drone in the sky.
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TRAVIS:
What's so strange here is,
if the GPS
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was being spoofed
for the whole survey,
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the final photogrammetry image
would be a big blur.
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That's not
what's happening at all.
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This one specific spot
over the ranch is confusing
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the photogrammetry data
and confusing it from a number
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of different angles,
which makes me think there's
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something really strange
about this particular area.
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ERIK:
Another interpretation might
be if you did have some kind
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of translucent effect
or object in the sky,
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then I suppose
it might also cause
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the algorithm
to perceive those pixels,
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whose color comes
from the ground, as being
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you know, somewhere else,
up in the air.
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Has Pete seen this before?
Did you ask him?
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That's the other important
point. I've connected with Pete
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and I've also spoken with the,
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the vendor of this software,
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asking, "Is this common?"
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And the answer that
I've gotten is, "No."
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Really?
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This is not a common thing
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in the terrestrial surveys
like this.
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Are there any other areas
in his survey
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that have this
sort of artifact to them?
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Yes.
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I want to show you
something at another location
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that we've visited
that is part of this survey.
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-Okay.
-Okay?
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TRAVIS:
This is right above
the petroglyph area, right?
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-THOMAS: Yes.
-It is.
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Just on the edge
of our property.
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-TRAVIS: Right.
-ERIK: And you'll recognize
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-the stone circle here.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
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ERIK: And the feature
that I want to show you
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is actually
very close to this stone circle.
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-See what's hap-- there you go.
-BRYANT: Oh, there you go.
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Right there.
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ERIK:
So let me spin us around.
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-I noticed a couple things here.
-Well, now look at this.
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ERIK:
And-and you may observe
the same thing I have.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, so line those two up,
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and where are they pointing?
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ERIK:
This feature, this artifact,
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the largest stone that was part
of the, of the stone circle
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and that prominent thing
that's jetting up,
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you know, further to the south.
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You have three points in a line.
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THOMAS:
Wow.
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ERIK:
Interestingly
and somewhat mysteriously,
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the anomalies
to the south and to the north
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of the stone circle
align perfectly
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with that large center stone
in the stone circle itself.
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Could be a coincidence,
but it sure is suggestive.
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-What are the odds of that?
-ERIK: Right.
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We've learned not to ignore
any anomalous features
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in our data even if we have
no idea what to make of them.
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TRAVIS:
So that, to me,
seems like you've almost
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drawn a ray from
the other anomaly
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-through this stone...
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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...to this, this anomaly.
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If we've got
a line being drawn here,
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then what is
that line pointing to?
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What is the line there for?
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We need to mark these spots
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because, you know,
what if this is
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somehow mapping an anomaly
that we need to investigate.
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You remember last year
when we had that expert out,
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he said that the petroglyph
was depicting a portal.
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So, I mean,
if we're getting way out there,
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that pillar's alignment with it
kind of looks like,
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in the data points, a spiraling
thing, portal-type feature.
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That's interesting.
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Last year we had
Dr. Alan Garfinkel
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come out to examine some
petroglyphs we'd discovered
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on the east side of the property
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right by the location
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of this strange aerial
anomaly that we're seeing.
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What I'm looking
at is these curves.
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It's a metaphor for
a serpent or a snake.
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Snakes represents
two different worlds,
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so it's a guardian
to the portals.
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The portal is
a window into the supernatural.
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TRAVIS:
Dragon is right about
the petroglyphs near this area,
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but this strange structure
in Pete's photogrammetry data
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is right above a mysterious
spiral of boulders on the mesa.
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I'm thinking there's
definitely something here.
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TRAVIS:
And earlier this year, Navajo
expert and historian John Dover
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told us this feature may have
been constructed by ancient
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Indigenous people to represent
a very specific phenomenon.
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JON: Looking at this place
in its entirety,
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it struck me as a holy place.
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We have basically
a spiral right here
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that's been
put into this ground here.
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That spiral is indicative of...?
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A portal,
a dimensional rift, an opening.
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THOMAS: We have
so much data pointing that
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there is something up
in the sky going on.
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And I honestly,
I'm not so sure that
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that petroglyph isn't
telling us that there's
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-something in the sky
over the ranch, you know?
-Right.
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Because that's
what it looks like.
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Could Pete Kelsey have actually
captured visual evidence
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that there really are portals
on Skinwalker Ranch?
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00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,862
And could it help explain
why we see UAPs appear
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and then suddenly disappear?
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Well, we owe it to
ourselves to follow up
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on every data anomaly
that we come across,
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particularly
when they're as prominent
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as the ones
we're looking at here.
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Erik, the data is
absolutely fascinating.
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We need to meet
with Brandon and review this
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and everything else
we've learned this year.
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I think we've just got to do
that and follow up on this data.
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-ERIK: Yep.
-BRYANT: Let's do it.
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-BRANDON: Greetings, everyone.
-ALL: Hey.
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I think everyone would
agree this past year has
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been the most
productive year in history,
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relative to the investigation
at Skinwalker Ranch.
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We launched this phase
of the investigation
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with former Governor Herbert.
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Uh, his interest
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and ongoing
engagement with this effort
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has been an important
part of really elevating
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the formality of this research
and how important it is.
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We also have joining us today,
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investigative journalist
George Knapp.
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Best known
as the leading journalist
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documenting
the reality of not only
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the ranch,
but this type of phenomena.
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I'd like to say, Governor,
by the way, you have
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a really beautiful state,
but it's an awfully weird state.
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00:17:49,655 --> 00:17:51,965
[laughter]
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I think today will be
a very eye-opening day
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and briefing for our guests.
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Well, I'm so excited to hear
what you have to tell me,
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and learn
from what's taken place.
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I think it's not
only important for Utah
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to find out what's happening
within our borders, by the way,
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but for America and the world.
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And so what it leads us to,
who knows?
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But I think it's important
that we find out.
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TRAVIS:
Yes, absolutely.
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I think the best thing to do
would be,
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uh, let's just start.
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We've done so many experiments,
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captured so much video,
so much measurement data,
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of unidentified aerial
phenomena.
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We've seen so many this summer
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with the various experiments
that we've done and so many
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witnesses
and instruments capturing them
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that it's undeniable that
that's what we have captured.
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ERIK: Um, I do have
footage that I can share.
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I'm going to go ahead
and play it in real time.
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TRAVIS:
We had just launched a rocket
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over Homestead Two
and fortunately we did
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have a camera looking
in that direction.
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-HERBERT: Wow.
-THOMAS: It's unbelievable.
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We saw so many this summer,
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I don't know
that I could remember
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accurately and go back
and count how many there's been.
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TRAVIS:
The experiments we conducted
this year led
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to some of the most
compelling and confounding UAP
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incidents ever documented
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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Using rockets, and digging
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to stimulate the activity...
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Whoa! What was that?
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...UAPs appeared numerous
times at Homestead Two...
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-Hey, look, UAP right there!
-Yep, I see it.
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...and above the triangle area.
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Look in the sky, y'all!
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We've seen a lot of
unidentified aerial phenomena.
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Some that I would say
even qualify
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as unidentified flying objects.
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Erik, if you wanna show them
what it is that we saw.
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You'll notice this bright
object to the center moving
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in a peculiar way and exhibiting
some peculiar characteristics.
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This object, whatever it is,
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appears brighter than Jupiter.
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-HERBERT: It's clearly moving.
-TRAVIS: Yeah, and it is moving
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in a different way than
a satellite would be moving.
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There was no
air traffic in the area.
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And you see
no navigation lights.
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And it actually came toward us,
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and then it made
a dogleg maneuver,
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and then turned to the east.
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BRYANT:
We all saw with the naked eye,
this thing.
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I mean,
for lack of a better term,
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it looked almost
like a flying donut.
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I mean, it was bright.
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And then it had
a defined dark center to it.
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BRANDON:
This is a solid structure.
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It was captured from
multiple camera viewpoints.
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And had eyewitnesses both
on and off the ranch.
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HERBERT:
It looks like
there's structure to it.
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And large enough
and bright enough
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that you could see it
with the naked eye.
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-Yes.
-Easily.
-Sure.
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This one is
the one that I would say
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is not a UAP, that it's a UFO.
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And, Erik has captured an odd
sound emanating from the ranch.
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And we see it almost every time
one of these phenomena occur.
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Hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, it's here!
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00:21:01,724 --> 00:21:04,793
We got that 1.6 thing.
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Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?
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ERIK:
I'm not broadcasting.
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I swear that sounds
like a communication signal.
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We see this
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1.6 or so gigahertz signal
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at times when we don't have eyes
on any kind of UAP, there's just
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some other activity as part
of our investigation going on.
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For example, drilling, digging.
487
00:21:26,758 --> 00:21:28,896
Could this be a fingerprint?
488
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,896
Or at least the trace evidence
489
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,379
of the technology
that is being utilized?
490
00:21:33,482 --> 00:21:35,551
That-that is a, uh,
possible speculation, Brandon,
491
00:21:35,655 --> 00:21:37,655
but I would say it's one
of those correlations that
492
00:21:37,758 --> 00:21:40,586
we haven't proved
that they're definitively tied
493
00:21:40,689 --> 00:21:42,413
to each other,
but the statistics are really
494
00:21:42,517 --> 00:21:45,068
getting hard to, uh, ignore.
495
00:21:45,172 --> 00:21:47,344
I've heard these stories
about people that pick up
496
00:21:47,448 --> 00:21:50,068
radio stations on the fillings
in their teeth over the years.
497
00:21:50,172 --> 00:21:52,586
Uh, coming back
to the idea of frequencies,
498
00:21:52,689 --> 00:21:54,931
Lue Elizondo,
who headed the AATIP program,
499
00:21:55,034 --> 00:21:58,068
has indicated that there is a
frequency that they have studied
500
00:21:58,172 --> 00:22:00,758
that pops up again and again
in these military
501
00:22:00,862 --> 00:22:03,655
encounters with
what we'd call UAP or UFOs.
502
00:22:03,758 --> 00:22:08,241
I can tell you, uh,
definitively that the UAPx guys,
503
00:22:08,344 --> 00:22:10,931
they told us
specifically that they were
504
00:22:11,034 --> 00:22:13,103
looking for microwaves,
so I told them,
505
00:22:13,206 --> 00:22:15,275
"Just look between
one and three gigahertz,"
506
00:22:15,379 --> 00:22:17,586
and they
came back to us and said,
507
00:22:17,689 --> 00:22:19,793
"We had a sighting the other
night and you were right.
508
00:22:19,896 --> 00:22:21,655
We picked up
something at 1.6 gigahertz."
509
00:22:21,758 --> 00:22:24,241
-And this was in California.
-Wow.
510
00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:27,724
So, it seems that this
1.6 gigahertz is somehow
511
00:22:27,827 --> 00:22:30,448
-connected to these sightings.
-Yeah.
512
00:22:30,551 --> 00:22:33,793
Well, uh, there's some
kind of electromagnetic effects.
513
00:22:33,896 --> 00:22:36,310
It's always been
associated with the ranch.
514
00:22:36,413 --> 00:22:38,379
Uh, when you think
you're ready to document it,
515
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,482
it goes somewhere else.
It plays tricks on you.
516
00:22:40,586 --> 00:22:43,137
Compasses spin, batteries die,
517
00:22:43,241 --> 00:22:46,620
vehicles crap out,
cameras go off-line.
518
00:22:46,724 --> 00:22:48,482
And whatever this force is,
519
00:22:48,586 --> 00:22:50,586
whatever the source
of the intelligence,
520
00:22:50,689 --> 00:22:52,310
it shows you
that it's in charge.
521
00:22:53,241 --> 00:22:57,724
It reminds me
of this recent experience...
522
00:22:58,517 --> 00:23:01,034
...with Dragon and Tom Lewis.
523
00:23:02,689 --> 00:23:05,862
I think it's important for...
524
00:23:05,965 --> 00:23:07,689
Governor Herbert to hear
525
00:23:07,793 --> 00:23:10,000
of your most recent experience,
526
00:23:10,103 --> 00:23:12,172
that literally
brought you to your knees.
527
00:23:18,379 --> 00:23:19,931
THOMAS:
Yeah, it was probably,
528
00:23:20,034 --> 00:23:22,931
well, probably
the scariest moment,
529
00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:24,413
you know, personally-- I know
530
00:23:24,517 --> 00:23:25,931
-it was for you obviously, Tom.
-Definitely.
531
00:23:26,034 --> 00:23:29,758
Yeah, so this day
we were drilling.
532
00:23:29,862 --> 00:23:32,724
Dragon had this idea,
maybe we should go check out
533
00:23:32,827 --> 00:23:34,379
Homestead Two,
see if there's any weird
534
00:23:34,482 --> 00:23:36,137
readings happening there.
535
00:23:37,724 --> 00:23:40,793
We go down to Homestead Two.
536
00:23:40,896 --> 00:23:42,862
Everything seems normal.
We took instruments.
537
00:23:44,379 --> 00:23:47,000
We'll see if anything
strange pops up and...
538
00:23:47,103 --> 00:23:48,793
-keep in touch with them.
-Yeah.
539
00:23:51,137 --> 00:23:54,000
This doggone
thing is broadcasting.
540
00:23:54,103 --> 00:23:57,000
This thing shouldn't
be broadcasting anything.
541
00:23:58,034 --> 00:23:58,931
Hey, Bryant? Tom?
542
00:23:59,034 --> 00:24:00,275
Do you copy?
543
00:24:00,379 --> 00:24:01,965
Yeah, I got you. Go ahead, Erik.
544
00:24:02,068 --> 00:24:04,000
TOM: Erik came
on the walkie and said,
545
00:24:04,103 --> 00:24:05,965
"Listen to this sound."
546
00:24:06,068 --> 00:24:08,206
We've got
an RF spectrum analyzer,
547
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:09,655
which is a receiver
548
00:24:09,758 --> 00:24:11,931
that seems to be broadcasting,
549
00:24:12,034 --> 00:24:13,965
instead of just receiving.
550
00:24:14,068 --> 00:24:16,655
Well, just
have a listen at this.
551
00:24:16,758 --> 00:24:18,275
[beeping]
552
00:24:18,379 --> 00:24:20,517
TOM: That sound
that was broadcast over
553
00:24:20,620 --> 00:24:22,172
the radio was a set of beeps.
554
00:24:22,275 --> 00:24:25,862
I heard static and,
like, a roaring train.
555
00:24:29,379 --> 00:24:30,931
Are you okay?
556
00:24:31,034 --> 00:24:32,482
No.
557
00:24:32,586 --> 00:24:34,827
My eyes went black.
558
00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:36,310
I couldn't see.
559
00:24:36,413 --> 00:24:38,000
-And...
-Like you went blind?
560
00:24:38,103 --> 00:24:41,344
Uh, yeah, I was
a little bit conscious still
561
00:24:41,448 --> 00:24:43,655
and so I dropped to the ground
562
00:24:43,758 --> 00:24:46,689
and my whole left arm was numb.
563
00:24:46,793 --> 00:24:50,172
And so, at this point,
I'm scared.
564
00:24:50,275 --> 00:24:51,655
I'm thinking
I'm having a heart attack.
565
00:24:51,758 --> 00:24:54,000
It was, I could,
I could feel him
566
00:24:54,103 --> 00:24:55,482
physically shaking.
I mean, it was...
567
00:24:55,586 --> 00:24:57,172
He's in distress.
568
00:24:57,275 --> 00:24:59,448
It was all I could do
to get him to my truck.
569
00:24:59,551 --> 00:25:01,241
You want to go?
570
00:25:01,344 --> 00:25:02,551
Yeah. Let's go.
571
00:25:02,655 --> 00:25:04,758
[exhales]
I can't feel my hand.
572
00:25:04,862 --> 00:25:07,275
You, like, you can't...
you can't feel your hand?
573
00:25:07,379 --> 00:25:08,965
I can't feel my hand.
574
00:25:11,586 --> 00:25:13,482
BRYANT:
Do you have any chest pains?
575
00:25:13,586 --> 00:25:15,068
TOM:
No, but it's hard to keep...
576
00:25:15,172 --> 00:25:17,068
keep my breath, it's...
577
00:25:17,172 --> 00:25:19,000
TOM: And my vision
really didn't come back
578
00:25:19,103 --> 00:25:20,827
until I was off the ranch.
579
00:25:20,931 --> 00:25:24,000
Luckily, Bryant was there,
you know, to help me.
580
00:25:24,103 --> 00:25:26,586
And, uh, what had happened
581
00:25:26,689 --> 00:25:30,103
is my heart, uh,
was skipping beats.
582
00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:33,275
And I had had EKGs before this
583
00:25:33,379 --> 00:25:36,586
and I've never had
this issue before.
584
00:25:36,689 --> 00:25:38,931
And the doctor explained to me
585
00:25:39,034 --> 00:25:42,379
that it, you know, there's
nothing wrong with my heart,
586
00:25:42,482 --> 00:25:45,827
but it was
an electrical problem.
587
00:25:45,931 --> 00:25:48,758
-Really?
-And, yeah.
588
00:25:48,862 --> 00:25:51,758
Fortunately, you know,
he's okay but,
589
00:25:51,862 --> 00:25:53,689
I mean, that's,
that's the strange thing is
590
00:25:53,793 --> 00:25:56,206
it affects people
so differently and people
591
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:59,034
are tuned to whatever
energy or frequency, but...
592
00:25:59,137 --> 00:26:02,482
what I find, you know,
interesting and also disturbing
593
00:26:02,586 --> 00:26:05,758
is it occurred,
like, literally right when...
594
00:26:05,862 --> 00:26:08,275
we were hitting
the base of the mesa where
595
00:26:08,379 --> 00:26:11,310
we were trying to see what in
the world is inside that mesa.
596
00:26:11,413 --> 00:26:12,827
And that's
when all hell broke loose.
597
00:26:12,931 --> 00:26:16,103
Which leads me
to think about this material
598
00:26:16,206 --> 00:26:18,344
that we pulled
out of one hole...
599
00:26:18,448 --> 00:26:22,275
while we were drilling
into the side of the mesa.
600
00:26:24,034 --> 00:26:25,793
Boy, that thing sounds
like it's hitting something.
601
00:26:25,896 --> 00:26:27,310
Oh, what the heck is...?
602
00:26:28,344 --> 00:26:30,206
TRAVIS:
In an effort
to explore a possible tunnel
603
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:32,206
or cave system beneath the mesa,
604
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:35,137
we brought in drilling expert
Aaron Blunt,
605
00:26:35,241 --> 00:26:38,137
who attempted to drill
horizontally into the mesa.
606
00:26:38,241 --> 00:26:40,137
That's when his drill bit
encountered
607
00:26:40,241 --> 00:26:42,620
something hard
and seemingly impenetrable.
608
00:26:43,551 --> 00:26:46,206
We're coming up about
11 inches every ten feet.
609
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:49,482
So, it sounds like
you're describing kind of a V.
610
00:26:49,586 --> 00:26:52,206
It could even be...
maybe a dome.
611
00:26:55,103 --> 00:26:57,413
TRAVIS:
Not only was this hard object
dome-shaped...
612
00:26:57,517 --> 00:26:58,965
What is that?
613
00:26:59,068 --> 00:27:01,137
...it also appeared to
be 400 feet wide
614
00:27:01,241 --> 00:27:03,000
-and made out of metal.
-Oh, my.
615
00:27:03,965 --> 00:27:05,896
What did you think it was
when you first saw it?
616
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,517
I wondered if it was
like metal flakes or something.
617
00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:11,620
That's exactly
the same impression I got.
618
00:27:11,724 --> 00:27:13,862
But the biggest
surprise came when we had
619
00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:15,793
a piece of the metal analyzed.
620
00:27:16,758 --> 00:27:18,724
There are material
findings coming out of that
621
00:27:18,827 --> 00:27:21,586
lateral drilling exercise,
surprising.
622
00:27:21,689 --> 00:27:23,379
Completely unexpected.
623
00:27:23,482 --> 00:27:24,689
I have to show you this.
624
00:27:25,586 --> 00:27:27,862
I want to put them
on the table so...
625
00:27:27,965 --> 00:27:30,034
I'm going to pass around
626
00:27:30,137 --> 00:27:32,206
a few of the samples
of which we have
627
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:34,551
many, uh, into the hundreds
628
00:27:34,655 --> 00:27:36,068
that have been taken
out of that what,
629
00:27:36,172 --> 00:27:38,206
five or six-inch diameter hole?
630
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:41,620
We're talking about
a six-inch hole into the mesa.
631
00:27:41,724 --> 00:27:44,896
We made it back about 420 feet.
632
00:27:45,827 --> 00:27:48,862
These started coming out
as we were well into
633
00:27:48,965 --> 00:27:51,034
the hundreds of feet
into the mesa.
634
00:27:51,137 --> 00:27:53,275
But who knows how much of it
635
00:27:53,379 --> 00:27:55,655
never came back
out of the mountain.
636
00:27:55,758 --> 00:27:58,034
Erik, uh, reached out, uh,
637
00:27:58,137 --> 00:28:00,551
to the local university here
and had them do
638
00:28:00,655 --> 00:28:03,103
an analysis with a scanning
electron microscope and do...
639
00:28:03,206 --> 00:28:07,034
precise elemental analysis
makeup of this material.
640
00:28:07,137 --> 00:28:09,620
The interesting thing
about the analysis that we got:
641
00:28:09,724 --> 00:28:12,068
tellurium is only on one side
642
00:28:12,172 --> 00:28:15,034
and europium,
which is on the other side.
643
00:28:15,137 --> 00:28:18,103
Now, tellurium
and europium are two
644
00:28:18,206 --> 00:28:21,379
of the most rare materials
on the planet.
645
00:28:21,482 --> 00:28:24,413
And it was fused.
646
00:28:24,517 --> 00:28:27,448
Can that happen naturally?
647
00:28:27,551 --> 00:28:29,448
If it were
going to be made on Earth,
648
00:28:29,551 --> 00:28:32,586
it would have to be
done deep under the crust,
649
00:28:32,689 --> 00:28:35,241
miles deep
in a geological process.
650
00:28:35,344 --> 00:28:38,275
There's no volcanic
processes happening there
651
00:28:38,379 --> 00:28:40,896
on the ranch
or in the Uinta Basin
652
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,413
that, uh, that we know of.
653
00:28:43,517 --> 00:28:45,724
The only other natural,
654
00:28:45,827 --> 00:28:49,448
uh, way to create this
would be an asteroid impact.
655
00:28:51,206 --> 00:28:54,724
But what we're
missing from this asteroid is,
656
00:28:54,827 --> 00:28:57,655
uh, we're missing nickel,
we're missing iridium,
657
00:28:57,758 --> 00:28:59,103
we're missing some other things
658
00:28:59,206 --> 00:29:01,827
that would
be there if it were an asteroid.
659
00:29:01,931 --> 00:29:03,344
This bears a lot of resemblance
660
00:29:03,448 --> 00:29:04,310
to things
that were made in a furnace.
661
00:29:04,413 --> 00:29:06,000
As if this is
662
00:29:06,103 --> 00:29:08,896
perhaps an engineered material.
663
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,931
TRAVIS:
You remember
the space shuttle tiles
664
00:29:11,034 --> 00:29:13,344
that protected it
from heat on reentry?
665
00:29:13,448 --> 00:29:16,689
This material makeup
is very similar to that ceramic.
666
00:29:16,793 --> 00:29:20,413
-Wow.
-So, Governor Herbert,
let me tell you,
667
00:29:20,517 --> 00:29:22,793
we did another,
probably the biggest,
668
00:29:22,896 --> 00:29:24,965
most complicated,
most expensive experiment
669
00:29:25,068 --> 00:29:27,586
that, uh, has ever
been done at the ranch.
670
00:29:37,206 --> 00:29:39,103
We had three laser systems,
671
00:29:39,206 --> 00:29:41,724
and we placed them
in a triangular position
672
00:29:41,827 --> 00:29:45,275
pointed up at the anomaly
in the sky over the ranch.
673
00:29:45,379 --> 00:29:47,241
And then we also had
674
00:29:47,344 --> 00:29:49,379
a very large rocket system
675
00:29:49,482 --> 00:29:51,275
uh, so that we could
put a payload
676
00:29:51,379 --> 00:29:53,724
into the anomaly
and have it linger
677
00:29:53,827 --> 00:29:55,896
as the recovery system
brought it back down
678
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
with multiple instruments.
Now...
679
00:29:59,103 --> 00:30:01,448
we get ready
to do the launch and...
680
00:30:01,551 --> 00:30:03,620
Brandon, tell them what
happened when we counted down
681
00:30:03,724 --> 00:30:05,931
-and you pushed the button.
-The second that I pushed
682
00:30:06,034 --> 00:30:09,448
the button, it literally
went up and exploded.
683
00:30:10,827 --> 00:30:12,655
Push and hold.
684
00:30:17,517 --> 00:30:19,793
Oh!
685
00:30:19,896 --> 00:30:21,896
How high did it get...
off the ground?
686
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,275
Maybe 30 feet?
687
00:30:23,379 --> 00:30:26,413
-So it immediately blew up?
-Yeah.
688
00:30:26,517 --> 00:30:28,448
Has this ever happened before?
Any of those rockets?
689
00:30:28,551 --> 00:30:30,448
They've never had
one fail like that before.
690
00:30:30,551 --> 00:30:34,000
So, it's like somebody was
trying to keep us from getting
691
00:30:34,103 --> 00:30:36,793
the instruments into
the place we want to put it.
692
00:30:37,896 --> 00:30:42,275
So thank heavens we were
ready with other rockets.
693
00:30:42,379 --> 00:30:44,448
-Yes.
-To continue the experiment.
694
00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:46,448
Do you have that second launch?
695
00:30:46,551 --> 00:30:49,448
So this is, in fact,
the footage of that launch,
696
00:30:49,551 --> 00:30:53,172
as seen by one
of our surveillance cameras.
697
00:30:58,206 --> 00:31:00,689
This takes place
at exactly the place
698
00:31:00,793 --> 00:31:02,689
where we've had
so many unusual things happen.
699
00:31:02,793 --> 00:31:04,793
-Is that the triangle?
-ERIK: That is the triangle.
700
00:31:04,896 --> 00:31:06,517
Yes.
701
00:31:06,620 --> 00:31:08,931
Erik was in the command center
702
00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:11,103
and saw something.
703
00:31:11,206 --> 00:31:13,172
ERIK:
Hey, Travis, you copy?
704
00:31:13,275 --> 00:31:15,344
TRAVIS:
Yeah, Erik, go ahead.
705
00:31:15,448 --> 00:31:17,862
If Brandon is nearby,
can you bring him in real quick?
706
00:31:19,275 --> 00:31:20,827
TRAVIS:
We'll be right there.
707
00:31:20,931 --> 00:31:23,620
Travis, you've got to see this.
708
00:31:23,724 --> 00:31:25,344
-Okay.
-Well, there's the lasers.
709
00:31:25,448 --> 00:31:28,137
-Yeah, I'm doing instant
playback. You see this?
-Oh! Yeah.
710
00:31:29,862 --> 00:31:32,482
-Wow.
-What the crap is that?
711
00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:36,310
This is through the lens
of a camera that is tasked
712
00:31:36,413 --> 00:31:38,206
with surveying the skies.
713
00:31:39,137 --> 00:31:42,206
And I'll draw your attention
to this part of the screen.
714
00:31:43,206 --> 00:31:46,793
Clearly we have an object.
Something luminous moving
715
00:31:46,896 --> 00:31:50,827
towards the apex of that
configuration of lasers being
716
00:31:50,931 --> 00:31:53,068
broadcast upward
from the triangle.
717
00:31:53,172 --> 00:31:56,620
TRAVIS: And it just, I mean,
it just goes away.
718
00:31:56,724 --> 00:31:58,344
-Yeah.
-Wow.
719
00:31:58,448 --> 00:32:01,931
It's important
to note that during this day,
720
00:32:02,034 --> 00:32:04,827
the entire airspace
721
00:32:04,931 --> 00:32:07,931
not only above the ranch,
but in the general area
722
00:32:08,034 --> 00:32:10,758
within the Uinta Basin
was restricted.
723
00:32:10,862 --> 00:32:12,620
Clearly,
there's no strobe on this,
724
00:32:12,724 --> 00:32:15,586
but beyond that, the aircraft
transponder data receiver
725
00:32:15,689 --> 00:32:18,724
that we have at the ranch
indicated no aircraft
726
00:32:18,827 --> 00:32:20,896
at that location.
727
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,586
It's unexplained.
What is the theory
728
00:32:23,689 --> 00:32:25,896
of what the explanation
could be?
729
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,931
Well, what if
some of the stories
730
00:32:28,034 --> 00:32:31,689
that we keep hearing about, uh,
from the ancient Native tribes,
731
00:32:31,793 --> 00:32:34,068
in petroglyphs that--
from all different kinds of
732
00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:36,068
folks that have been
to the ranch, that there's
733
00:32:36,172 --> 00:32:39,172
a portal access on the ranch.
734
00:32:39,275 --> 00:32:42,620
What if that's true?
It could be what we just saw!
735
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,344
This may be
a particular point of interest
736
00:32:47,448 --> 00:32:50,896
for a wormhole or a stargate,
some type
737
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,862
of interstellar interaction?
738
00:32:52,965 --> 00:32:56,413
One of the stories that's
been told from the Sherman
739
00:32:56,517 --> 00:32:59,068
and Bigelow era that caught
the attention of the DIA--
740
00:32:59,172 --> 00:33:00,724
the Defense
Intelligence Agency--
741
00:33:00,827 --> 00:33:02,586
was about a hole in the sky.
742
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,379
Call it a portal.
743
00:33:05,758 --> 00:33:08,275
The rancher would
see these things open up,
744
00:33:08,379 --> 00:33:10,586
it's dusk here,
it's afternoon over there.
745
00:33:10,689 --> 00:33:12,068
It's like you're looking in
746
00:33:12,172 --> 00:33:14,344
through a hole in the sky
to another place.
747
00:33:15,896 --> 00:33:18,000
And he would report
things coming in and out.
748
00:33:18,103 --> 00:33:21,620
Uh, craft coming in and out from
that reality to this reality.
749
00:33:23,413 --> 00:33:25,965
Well, you just referenced
an anecdotal experience,
750
00:33:26,068 --> 00:33:28,793
one from a credible scientist,
751
00:33:28,896 --> 00:33:31,655
but no visual evidence
to accompany that.
752
00:33:31,758 --> 00:33:34,724
Here we have
potential visual evidence
753
00:33:34,827 --> 00:33:38,103
of some type
of interstellar activity
754
00:33:38,206 --> 00:33:41,655
focused on the ranch,
some type of interaction
755
00:33:41,758 --> 00:33:44,793
that is not explained
by any conventional means.
756
00:33:44,896 --> 00:33:46,137
Never seen it before.
757
00:33:46,241 --> 00:33:49,000
I-I've never seen
anything like it before.
758
00:33:50,758 --> 00:33:52,862
And, Brandon, this next one,
you have yet to see
759
00:33:52,965 --> 00:33:54,655
because it just happened to us.
760
00:33:54,758 --> 00:33:58,172
-Really?
-Yeah, it is so bizarre.
761
00:33:58,275 --> 00:34:01,034
I think it would be a good idea
to get everyone's eyes on this.
762
00:34:01,137 --> 00:34:03,379
-Absolutely.
-Please, let's do.
763
00:34:04,827 --> 00:34:06,206
ERIK: This is
a three-dimensional model
764
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:09,379
of Pete Kelsey's recent
survey work.
765
00:34:09,482 --> 00:34:12,758
Pete scanned the entire mesa,
and look at this structure.
766
00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:18,172
HERBERT:
Wow. Incredible.
767
00:34:18,275 --> 00:34:20,344
Wow!
768
00:34:21,448 --> 00:34:24,344
This looks like
a solid structure in the sky.
769
00:34:24,448 --> 00:34:26,206
ERIK:
Yes.
770
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:28,862
This object, whatever it is,
771
00:34:28,965 --> 00:34:31,172
uh, it's really fascinating.
772
00:34:31,275 --> 00:34:34,206
What are we looking at?
We don't know at this point.
773
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:37,206
Well, we need
to talk about the reality
774
00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:40,379
of what we're dealing with
in this investigation.
775
00:34:40,482 --> 00:34:44,137
Based on all
of these combined events,
776
00:34:44,241 --> 00:34:46,344
how do we move forward?
777
00:34:53,724 --> 00:34:56,344
All of this data, if we
are truly being led by the data,
778
00:34:56,448 --> 00:35:01,551
and what we have documented,
how do we move forward?
779
00:35:01,655 --> 00:35:06,482
What are our next steps as
a team here at Skinwalker Ranch?
780
00:35:06,586 --> 00:35:10,517
TRAVIS: Well, what we can say is
perhaps one of the most
781
00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:14,034
amazing treasures
might be under that mesa,
782
00:35:14,137 --> 00:35:16,551
but it might also be
amazingly fragile.
783
00:35:16,655 --> 00:35:20,379
And we don't want to
destroy whatever it is,
784
00:35:20,482 --> 00:35:23,206
by willy-nilly
going in and-and...
785
00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:26,206
-and stomping our feet around.
-ERIK: Yeah, and exactly
786
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:28,965
as Travis has explained,
we should probably take
787
00:35:29,068 --> 00:35:31,965
a forensic approach
to look at this as a biopsy.
788
00:35:32,068 --> 00:35:35,034
Uh, you know,
we conduct the research, uh...
789
00:35:35,137 --> 00:35:37,551
very carefully,
because we don't want to destroy
790
00:35:37,655 --> 00:35:40,586
the very thing we are
attempting to get eyes on.
791
00:35:40,689 --> 00:35:43,034
So obviously we can't come in
792
00:35:43,137 --> 00:35:45,724
recklessly and blast the side
793
00:35:45,827 --> 00:35:47,275
-of the mesa.
-TRAVIS: Absolutely.
-Yeah.
794
00:35:47,379 --> 00:35:48,965
Whatever we do must be
795
00:35:49,068 --> 00:35:51,862
surgical,
well-planned and precise.
796
00:35:51,965 --> 00:35:54,724
Is there any way
797
00:35:54,827 --> 00:35:56,689
to discover
what's inside the mesa,
798
00:35:56,793 --> 00:35:58,689
short of excavation?
799
00:35:58,793 --> 00:36:00,896
Is there some kind of sonar,
800
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,103
microimaging that we can,
801
00:36:03,206 --> 00:36:05,275
you can actually X-ray
the mountain?
802
00:36:05,379 --> 00:36:07,931
We have used, uh,
ground-penetrating radar
803
00:36:08,034 --> 00:36:10,620
to the best
of our ability right now.
804
00:36:10,724 --> 00:36:14,413
Uh, we are pursuing some, uh,
space capabilities that
805
00:36:14,517 --> 00:36:17,275
are just now,
new technologies coming online.
806
00:36:17,379 --> 00:36:19,137
Maybe in the next year or so.
807
00:36:19,241 --> 00:36:22,620
You know, there's another thing
that we need to follow up on.
808
00:36:22,724 --> 00:36:25,793
We have discovered
there is some sort of anomaly
809
00:36:25,896 --> 00:36:28,137
over the ranch
in a certain location
810
00:36:28,241 --> 00:36:30,655
that is between 3,000
and 5,000 feet
811
00:36:30,758 --> 00:36:33,448
in altitude above the triangle.
812
00:36:33,551 --> 00:36:35,586
If this is a...
atmospheric anomaly
813
00:36:35,689 --> 00:36:37,620
or a gravitational anomaly,
814
00:36:37,724 --> 00:36:40,965
-I think we just got to
follow up on this data.
-Absolutely.
815
00:36:41,068 --> 00:36:44,275
BRANDON: I think everyone would
agree that we move forward
816
00:36:44,379 --> 00:36:47,586
having a multidisciplinary,
diverse approach
817
00:36:47,689 --> 00:36:50,931
to really tackling this problem
set and taking the data
818
00:36:51,034 --> 00:36:55,068
that drives us
in the right direction
819
00:36:55,172 --> 00:36:58,137
to uncover the secret
of what lies on this ranch,
820
00:36:58,241 --> 00:37:00,586
both above and below.
821
00:37:00,689 --> 00:37:03,517
GEORGE: Well, I mean,
here's the significance for me.
822
00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:05,758
You guys set up an experiment
823
00:37:05,862 --> 00:37:08,310
where you have
witnesses there gathered
824
00:37:08,413 --> 00:37:10,000
to conduct this experiment
825
00:37:10,103 --> 00:37:11,689
and hopefully
generate a response.
826
00:37:11,793 --> 00:37:13,172
You don't know
what the response is gonna be.
827
00:37:13,275 --> 00:37:15,103
You don't know
if there will be a response.
828
00:37:15,206 --> 00:37:17,000
And you get a response
and you document it.
829
00:37:17,103 --> 00:37:21,620
It appears
we are triggering contact...
830
00:37:22,517 --> 00:37:25,172
...in some way,
shape or form and...
831
00:37:25,275 --> 00:37:27,931
it is manifesting itself
832
00:37:28,034 --> 00:37:30,965
above the ranch
in a very profound way.
833
00:37:31,068 --> 00:37:34,000
We're dealing with forces.
834
00:37:34,103 --> 00:37:37,103
We're dealing with phenomena
835
00:37:37,206 --> 00:37:40,034
that redefines not only
836
00:37:40,137 --> 00:37:43,517
our vision of reality but
potentially even history itself.
837
00:37:45,172 --> 00:37:47,517
Is Skinwalker Ranch really
838
00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:50,793
at the center
of a lot of interesting things
839
00:37:50,896 --> 00:37:53,103
-that are now
being brought forward?
-HERBERT: Yes, but...
840
00:37:53,206 --> 00:37:55,896
it doesn't seem to be
restricted just to Utah.
841
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,068
-This is country-wide,
worldwide?
-BRANDON: Yeah.
842
00:37:58,172 --> 00:38:00,517
GEORGE:
Well, for the last four years,
843
00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:02,758
the whole world
has been on a UFO binge.
844
00:38:02,862 --> 00:38:05,413
We've had major media coverage
taking it seriously
845
00:38:05,517 --> 00:38:06,896
for the first time maybe ever.
846
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Congress has dug in.
847
00:38:09,103 --> 00:38:11,241
They want to fund
a permanent investigation.
848
00:38:11,344 --> 00:38:13,034
A program that
would look into these things.
849
00:38:13,137 --> 00:38:15,172
And all of this stuff
is traced directly
850
00:38:15,275 --> 00:38:16,482
back to Skinwalker Ranch.
851
00:38:16,586 --> 00:38:19,241
If not for a DIA scientist
852
00:38:19,344 --> 00:38:21,034
visiting the property back
853
00:38:21,137 --> 00:38:23,517
in 2007
and having an experience,
854
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:25,689
there would not have been
an AAWSAP program,
855
00:38:25,793 --> 00:38:27,896
there would not
have been an AATIP program,
856
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,103
and the whole world would not
be on this UFO binge
857
00:38:30,206 --> 00:38:32,206
that it's on right now. We don't
know where it's gonna lead,
858
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:34,379
but at least we've dragged it
out of the dark ages
859
00:38:34,482 --> 00:38:37,103
and made this topic
a little more respectable
860
00:38:37,206 --> 00:38:40,241
for Congress, for media,
for scientists to investigate.
861
00:38:40,344 --> 00:38:42,413
It all stems back to the ranch.
862
00:38:42,517 --> 00:38:44,758
Well, Brandon, let me just say,
you know, I was here
863
00:38:44,862 --> 00:38:47,758
at the beginning
12 weeks ago, and now I'm...
864
00:38:47,862 --> 00:38:49,068
I've returned
and you're reporting.
865
00:38:49,172 --> 00:38:51,068
And all I can say is
866
00:38:51,172 --> 00:38:53,103
the phenomena
is just overwhelming.
867
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,724
I'm very excited
about the next chapter.
868
00:38:55,827 --> 00:38:58,241
Uh, I think you've got momentum,
869
00:38:58,344 --> 00:39:00,034
uh, I again like Dr. Taylor
870
00:39:00,137 --> 00:39:02,482
talking about this should be
a scalpeled approach.
871
00:39:02,586 --> 00:39:04,827
Erik, you've mentioned how
we've got to be careful
872
00:39:04,931 --> 00:39:07,068
about what we're doing here
so we don't damage
873
00:39:07,172 --> 00:39:10,310
-the information we'll find.
-GEORGE: Very much so.
874
00:39:10,413 --> 00:39:13,655
You guys have made breakthroughs
on so many different, uh, bases,
875
00:39:13,758 --> 00:39:15,896
and, uh, I can't wait
to see what comes next.
876
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,620
BRANDON:
Well, thank you, Governor,
for your time and attention.
877
00:39:18,724 --> 00:39:21,689
-And thank you, George,
for joining us.
-Glad to be here.
878
00:39:21,793 --> 00:39:25,724
I want to thank everyone at
this table for your sacrifice,
879
00:39:25,827 --> 00:39:27,931
for your professionalism,
880
00:39:28,034 --> 00:39:31,448
for your talents,
your expertise.
881
00:39:31,551 --> 00:39:35,896
We are, uh, opening new doors,
new paths to explore.
882
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,758
I look forward
to the path ahead.
883
00:39:38,862 --> 00:39:40,793
And, uh, we'll be in touch
884
00:39:40,896 --> 00:39:42,655
with you regarding next steps.
885
00:39:42,758 --> 00:39:44,137
-Thank you.
-KANDUS: All right.
886
00:39:44,241 --> 00:39:46,344
-Thanks, Brandon.
-Thank you.
887
00:39:46,448 --> 00:39:48,310
Thank you, Governor.
888
00:39:48,413 --> 00:39:50,034
-George. Yeah, yeah.
-Good to meet you.
889
00:39:52,241 --> 00:39:55,586
ERIK:
We've learned a lot of things
through our work this year.
890
00:39:55,689 --> 00:39:57,275
Piece by piece,
891
00:39:57,379 --> 00:40:00,137
we are continuing to
assemble this puzzle,
892
00:40:00,241 --> 00:40:04,000
showing us that not only
is the ranch phenomenology real,
893
00:40:04,103 --> 00:40:09,137
but we seem to be
interactively engaging it.
894
00:40:09,241 --> 00:40:12,137
THOMAS:
I'm way past
the point of no return.
895
00:40:12,241 --> 00:40:13,862
I've had too many
things happen to me
896
00:40:13,965 --> 00:40:15,965
on the ranch not to continue.
897
00:40:16,068 --> 00:40:18,931
It seems like
the stakes have risen,
898
00:40:19,034 --> 00:40:22,448
so at this point
we have to push forward.
899
00:40:22,551 --> 00:40:24,931
We have to get answers.
900
00:40:25,931 --> 00:40:28,482
GEORGE: I've seen things today
that I never thought I would see
901
00:40:28,586 --> 00:40:31,965
and haven't seen before,
but I'd like to think
902
00:40:32,068 --> 00:40:34,103
that we can figure it out,
I hope we can.
903
00:40:34,206 --> 00:40:35,827
Here's the thing for sure:
904
00:40:35,931 --> 00:40:38,068
you aren't going to figure it
out if you don't try.
905
00:40:39,655 --> 00:40:41,655
TRAVIS: As we wrap up
this year's investigation
906
00:40:41,758 --> 00:40:43,310
at Skinwalker Ranch,
907
00:40:43,413 --> 00:40:45,310
we all feel like we're getting
908
00:40:45,413 --> 00:40:47,965
much closer to finding some
real answers about this place.
909
00:40:48,068 --> 00:40:50,965
I mean,
when I first came to the ranch,
910
00:40:51,068 --> 00:40:52,758
I had never even seen a UAP.
911
00:40:52,862 --> 00:40:55,103
We got something, hold on.
912
00:40:55,206 --> 00:40:56,275
-Look, look, look.
-What is that?
913
00:40:56,379 --> 00:40:57,655
Holy [bleep]!
914
00:40:57,758 --> 00:40:59,310
But we've
witnessed and documented
915
00:40:59,413 --> 00:41:01,034
phenomena up in the sky...
916
00:41:01,137 --> 00:41:02,793
What the hell is that
in the sky?
917
00:41:02,896 --> 00:41:04,517
CHUCK:
That thing is big and spherical!
918
00:41:04,620 --> 00:41:07,034
...that has changed
my entire outlook
919
00:41:07,137 --> 00:41:08,517
on what I thought was possible.
920
00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:10,275
And now...
921
00:41:10,379 --> 00:41:12,344
after encountering
a dome-shaped metal object
922
00:41:12,448 --> 00:41:14,034
deep inside the mesa,
923
00:41:14,137 --> 00:41:16,517
who knows what
it could ultimately reveal.
924
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:17,965
Oh, my.
925
00:41:18,068 --> 00:41:19,724
TRAVIS:
We owe it to ourselves
926
00:41:19,827 --> 00:41:23,620
and the entire world to figure
out the truth behind this ranch.
927
00:41:23,724 --> 00:41:27,862
BRANDON: It takes courage
to confront these topics.
928
00:41:28,793 --> 00:41:32,172
I believe
as we brave that territory,
929
00:41:32,275 --> 00:41:35,206
as we have
the courage to delve deeper,
930
00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:39,931
both literally and figuratively
into Skinwalker Ranch,
931
00:41:40,034 --> 00:41:42,482
we're going to find
that not only
932
00:41:42,586 --> 00:41:44,379
will we come to
an understanding
933
00:41:44,482 --> 00:41:48,068
of the dark forces
that we're interacting with,
934
00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:52,448
but also the nature
of our world, and our reality.
73709
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