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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,655 --> 00:00:09,103 We've got a Gulfstream GV doing a survey pattern. 2 00:00:09,206 --> 00:00:11,620 -BRANDON: We're being monitored. -And for what purpose? 3 00:00:11,724 --> 00:00:13,931 We're 1,600 feet above the ground. 4 00:00:14,034 --> 00:00:17,137 ERIK: Bryant and Travis will be releasing the GPS trackers. 5 00:00:17,241 --> 00:00:19,344 -THOMAS: It's in the air. -ERIK: Where'd it go? 6 00:00:19,448 --> 00:00:20,862 -Where'd it go? -THOMAS: It disappeared. 7 00:00:20,965 --> 00:00:23,482 So, we have a region 8 00:00:23,586 --> 00:00:26,827 in altitude that tells us there's some kind of phenomenon 9 00:00:26,931 --> 00:00:29,724 taking place right here over the triangle. 10 00:00:30,896 --> 00:00:34,310 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 11 00:00:34,413 --> 00:00:36,931 It is considered the epicenter 12 00:00:37,034 --> 00:00:41,620 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 13 00:00:41,724 --> 00:00:44,068 animal mutilations, 14 00:00:44,172 --> 00:00:46,241 bizarre UFO sightings 15 00:00:46,344 --> 00:00:51,275 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 16 00:00:51,379 --> 00:00:53,862 For 20 years, the federal government 17 00:00:53,965 --> 00:00:57,310 tried to find answers and failed. 18 00:00:57,413 --> 00:01:01,655 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 19 00:01:01,758 --> 00:01:05,724 researchers and experts has taken over. 20 00:01:05,827 --> 00:01:09,482 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 21 00:01:12,068 --> 00:01:15,689 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 22 00:01:24,793 --> 00:01:25,965 -Oh, here they are. -Yeah. 23 00:01:26,068 --> 00:01:28,482 TRAVIS: Last week, we conducted an aerial drop 24 00:01:28,586 --> 00:01:30,689 of GPS units into that mile-high zone 25 00:01:30,793 --> 00:01:32,379 above the triangle area 26 00:01:32,482 --> 00:01:34,206 on Skinwalker Ranch where we keep detecting 27 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:36,344 these strange energy spikes. 28 00:01:36,448 --> 00:01:38,620 Holy cow, look at that. 29 00:01:38,724 --> 00:01:40,517 But something that we couldn't see 30 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:43,517 actually deflected the payloads away from the zone. 31 00:01:43,620 --> 00:01:45,689 So we decided to conduct a new experiment 32 00:01:45,793 --> 00:01:48,551 to launch rockets up into that same zone 33 00:01:48,655 --> 00:01:51,862 just to figure out what could have caused that to happen. 34 00:01:51,965 --> 00:01:55,034 And hopefully we can stimulate new aerial phenomena to appear, 35 00:01:55,137 --> 00:01:56,551 like we have in the past. 36 00:01:56,655 --> 00:01:58,000 -Howdy. -Good to meet you. 37 00:01:58,103 --> 00:01:59,965 TRAVIS: To help us do that we invited 38 00:02:00,068 --> 00:02:02,275 a very specialized team of researchers out to the ranch 39 00:02:02,379 --> 00:02:05,586 from an organization known as UAPx. 40 00:02:05,689 --> 00:02:06,931 Well, welcome to the Ranch. 41 00:02:07,034 --> 00:02:08,275 -Thank you. -Excited to have you. 42 00:02:08,379 --> 00:02:10,034 Excited to be here. 43 00:02:10,137 --> 00:02:11,448 It's pretty overwhelming. 44 00:02:11,551 --> 00:02:13,275 JEREMY: Excited. A little apprehensive. 45 00:02:13,379 --> 00:02:15,586 -But, uh, happy to be here. -BRYANT: Well, rightly so. 46 00:02:15,689 --> 00:02:19,206 TRAVIS: Jason Turner, Gary Voorhis and Jeremy McGowan 47 00:02:19,310 --> 00:02:21,241 have all not only had esteemed careers 48 00:02:21,344 --> 00:02:22,448 in the U.S. military, 49 00:02:22,551 --> 00:02:25,931 but Jason and Gary were closely involved in one of 50 00:02:26,034 --> 00:02:28,379 the biggest documented UAP events in history. 51 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:32,103 The so-called Tic Tac video that was captured in 2004 52 00:02:32,206 --> 00:02:35,758 by Navy personnel on the USS Nimitzand the USS Princeton 53 00:02:35,862 --> 00:02:40,655 and released to the public byThe New York Times in 2017. 54 00:02:41,896 --> 00:02:44,931 JASON: In 2004, I was a logistics specialist 55 00:02:45,034 --> 00:02:46,793 on board the USSPrinceton. 56 00:02:46,896 --> 00:02:49,103 Well, it started off as just a regular day. We were... 57 00:02:49,206 --> 00:02:51,724 everybody was going through their work-up cycle, 58 00:02:51,827 --> 00:02:56,103 getting their qualifications, and there had been talk 59 00:02:56,206 --> 00:02:58,896 around the ship that-that something was going on. 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,862 I was in the right place at the right time 61 00:03:01,965 --> 00:03:04,517 and happened to be up in SSES, 62 00:03:04,620 --> 00:03:06,689 which is a Ship's Signal Exploitation Space. 63 00:03:06,793 --> 00:03:10,206 When I walked in, I saw the actual video. 64 00:03:12,275 --> 00:03:15,344 In the video, the Tic Tac is what we described and looked at. 65 00:03:15,448 --> 00:03:17,655 It was an oblong-shaped vehicle. 66 00:03:17,758 --> 00:03:20,275 White in color. No wings. 67 00:03:20,379 --> 00:03:23,517 No windows. No propulsion. 68 00:03:23,620 --> 00:03:26,000 But yet it could move sideways, up, down, left, right. 69 00:03:26,103 --> 00:03:28,068 And one of the jets actually engaged 70 00:03:28,172 --> 00:03:30,862 to go get a closer look exactly what it was. 71 00:03:30,965 --> 00:03:34,172 At that point, the small, white, Tic Tac-shaped object 72 00:03:34,275 --> 00:03:36,724 then reacted to our interrogation 73 00:03:36,827 --> 00:03:39,586 by starting to fly at our jet. 74 00:03:41,103 --> 00:03:42,965 I-It scared the heck out of our pilot, 75 00:03:43,068 --> 00:03:47,172 but it basically flew circles around it. 76 00:03:47,275 --> 00:03:50,275 So, we as humans can travel from one spot to another, 77 00:03:50,379 --> 00:03:52,655 but we have to accelerate to get there 78 00:03:52,758 --> 00:03:54,517 and then decelerate to stop. 79 00:03:54,620 --> 00:03:56,517 So, this thing would start. 80 00:03:56,620 --> 00:03:58,655 It would make its mind up of how fast it was gonna go. 81 00:03:58,758 --> 00:04:01,551 There was no acceleration. It was just one speed 82 00:04:01,655 --> 00:04:04,000 from start to finish. 83 00:04:04,103 --> 00:04:05,931 GARY: You know, I knew innately 84 00:04:06,034 --> 00:04:07,724 that it wasn't natural the way that it moved 85 00:04:07,827 --> 00:04:10,241 or that, you know, it shouldn't be possible to do that, 86 00:04:10,344 --> 00:04:11,896 but I didn't know why. 87 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,413 And then that's-that's what I spent the next 20 years 88 00:04:14,517 --> 00:04:15,862 trying to figure out. 89 00:04:16,931 --> 00:04:19,034 You can have these three seats here at the end of the table. 90 00:04:19,137 --> 00:04:20,551 JEREMY: All right, sounds good. 91 00:04:20,655 --> 00:04:22,931 We'll get situated. 92 00:04:23,034 --> 00:04:24,931 The UAPx guys have designed 93 00:04:25,034 --> 00:04:26,896 specialized technology to track 94 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,655 and study UAPs, which we were eager to utilize 95 00:04:29,758 --> 00:04:31,413 in our rocket experiment. 96 00:04:31,517 --> 00:04:34,758 But first, we wanted to show them some of our own UAP footage 97 00:04:34,862 --> 00:04:37,241 that we've captured here on Skinwalker Ranch. 98 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:38,586 ERIK: So, we have 99 00:04:38,689 --> 00:04:41,482 material that I'm anxious to put in front of you guys 100 00:04:41,586 --> 00:04:43,896 and see how it compares with things 101 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,862 that you've either, you know, witnessed 102 00:04:44,965 --> 00:04:48,344 during your UAPx studies or even before. 103 00:04:48,448 --> 00:04:49,758 We're trying to figure out from some things we've seen, 104 00:04:49,862 --> 00:04:52,413 uh, are these things actually moving 105 00:04:52,517 --> 00:04:53,724 through space from point A to point B, 106 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:55,137 or are they literally vanishing here 107 00:04:55,241 --> 00:04:56,517 and appearing there? 108 00:04:56,620 --> 00:04:57,758 Sweet. 109 00:04:59,068 --> 00:05:01,482 ERIK: What we're interested in having you guys look at 110 00:05:01,586 --> 00:05:04,655 was something spotted in the sky 111 00:05:04,758 --> 00:05:08,482 during an unexpected sudden death of a cow. 112 00:05:08,586 --> 00:05:10,413 -Mm. -We have the animal 113 00:05:10,517 --> 00:05:14,620 down here in the last moments of this cow's life. 114 00:05:14,724 --> 00:05:16,827 The animal lifts its head up 115 00:05:16,931 --> 00:05:19,931 just as this dark object that you see above the tree 116 00:05:20,034 --> 00:05:22,275 comes into the frame. 117 00:05:24,034 --> 00:05:27,103 It doesn't fly in. It just appears there. 118 00:05:27,206 --> 00:05:28,275 -Crazy. -TRAVIS: Yep. 119 00:05:28,379 --> 00:05:30,862 ERIK: Next frame. 120 00:05:30,965 --> 00:05:32,310 The object is here. 121 00:05:32,413 --> 00:05:34,965 Well, the way this video looks 122 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:36,655 is basically how I would know I was looking 123 00:05:36,758 --> 00:05:38,655 at one of the Tic Tacs. That's how they move. 124 00:05:38,758 --> 00:05:40,620 They would just... they would be from one point to the next 125 00:05:40,724 --> 00:05:43,137 before you realized they were, and then they'd just be gone. 126 00:05:43,241 --> 00:05:44,620 Wow. 127 00:05:44,724 --> 00:05:46,482 Here's another one. 128 00:05:46,586 --> 00:05:49,275 It's tempting to infer a shape here 129 00:05:49,379 --> 00:05:52,275 that is spherical, would you say? 130 00:05:52,379 --> 00:05:53,965 Depends on which way you're looking at it. 131 00:05:54,068 --> 00:05:56,137 ERIK: Mm-hmm. Did the Tic Tacs 132 00:05:56,241 --> 00:05:59,758 ever appear spherical in the field of view of the equipment? 133 00:05:59,862 --> 00:06:03,000 Whenever you'd see it straight on, yeah. 134 00:06:03,103 --> 00:06:04,379 -Wow. -GARY: The videos 135 00:06:04,482 --> 00:06:06,206 they showed us about the UAP-- 136 00:06:06,310 --> 00:06:08,896 they exhibited a lot of the very similar 137 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,862 or even the same characteristics as the Tic Tac did 138 00:06:12,965 --> 00:06:14,862 during the 2004 Nimitzencounter. 139 00:06:14,965 --> 00:06:16,655 I'll be dead honest with you. 140 00:06:16,758 --> 00:06:19,275 All of these objects weren't coming at us. 141 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:21,344 They were just doing whatever they were doing, 142 00:06:21,448 --> 00:06:24,655 and then they only reacted to us. 143 00:06:24,758 --> 00:06:26,379 So, that-that's an important part, 144 00:06:26,482 --> 00:06:28,551 'cause a lot of people always ask, "Well, 145 00:06:28,655 --> 00:06:30,551 why didn't you have weapons? Why didn't you fire on them?" 146 00:06:30,655 --> 00:06:32,551 They were doing no hostile intentions. 147 00:06:32,655 --> 00:06:35,379 They weren't lighting us up, as far as I know. 148 00:06:35,482 --> 00:06:38,206 Well, it suggests that somehow it knew intent. 149 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:39,896 That's interesting. 150 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,379 There's a long-standing, I don't know, hypothesis 151 00:06:43,482 --> 00:06:45,896 or even mythos about the ranch 152 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,758 that-that it can sense intent and react to it. 153 00:06:50,862 --> 00:06:54,310 And that's what we keep having described to us, 154 00:06:54,413 --> 00:06:56,724 and we see odd things happen 155 00:06:56,827 --> 00:06:59,931 that kind of follows along that path, 156 00:07:00,034 --> 00:07:01,931 but we're not ready to completely... 157 00:07:02,034 --> 00:07:03,586 You know, like-like you were saying, 158 00:07:03,689 --> 00:07:05,965 -not sure what to believe or accept just yet. -Yeah. 159 00:07:06,068 --> 00:07:09,103 Now, the one thing that you might be interested in 160 00:07:09,206 --> 00:07:11,482 is talking with other shipmates from that time. 161 00:07:11,586 --> 00:07:13,275 Uh, they were-they were in charge of equipment 162 00:07:13,379 --> 00:07:16,344 that detects EM, or electromagnetics, 163 00:07:16,448 --> 00:07:18,275 uh, RF. 164 00:07:18,379 --> 00:07:20,206 Uh, you know, things like that and... 165 00:07:20,310 --> 00:07:22,275 That is particularly interesting to us. 166 00:07:22,379 --> 00:07:23,620 They all have an NDA 167 00:07:23,724 --> 00:07:25,448 and will not talk about it at all. 168 00:07:25,551 --> 00:07:27,275 I mean, not even off the record 169 00:07:27,379 --> 00:07:29,172 like, you know, old shipmates would. 170 00:07:29,275 --> 00:07:32,724 So, they-they pretty much scared the dickens out of those guys 171 00:07:32,827 --> 00:07:34,344 -about-about it. -ERIK: So, 172 00:07:34,448 --> 00:07:35,655 you know, the UAP report 173 00:07:35,758 --> 00:07:37,137 that was recently released 174 00:07:37,241 --> 00:07:40,103 talking about RF, radio frequency signals. 175 00:07:40,206 --> 00:07:43,275 This is something that's especially interesting to us. 176 00:07:43,379 --> 00:07:45,275 TRAVIS: Over the last two years, 177 00:07:45,379 --> 00:07:47,137 we've repeatedly recorded 178 00:07:47,241 --> 00:07:50,620 these high spikes of radiofrequency, or RF energy. 179 00:07:51,965 --> 00:07:53,275 MAN: We've got liftoff. 180 00:07:53,379 --> 00:07:54,896 TRAVIS: Oh, my God. During launch, 181 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,931 the electromagnetic spectrum is going crazy, 182 00:07:57,034 --> 00:07:59,206 guys. I've never seen anything like it. 183 00:07:59,310 --> 00:08:02,689 All electronic devices operate on some RF frequency. 184 00:08:02,793 --> 00:08:07,000 Radios, GPS, satellites, TV, e-even microwaves. 185 00:08:07,103 --> 00:08:09,931 But the one we consistently see here 186 00:08:10,034 --> 00:08:12,000 appears at 1.6 gigahertz, 187 00:08:12,103 --> 00:08:13,827 and no technology that we know of 188 00:08:13,931 --> 00:08:16,172 uses that specific frequency. 189 00:08:16,275 --> 00:08:18,482 It's an anomaly that's also been recorded 190 00:08:18,586 --> 00:08:22,000 during other UAP encounters that were documented 191 00:08:22,103 --> 00:08:24,482 in the 2021 report by the federal government 192 00:08:24,586 --> 00:08:25,827 on UAPs. 193 00:08:25,931 --> 00:08:26,965 Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. 194 00:08:27,068 --> 00:08:28,827 What's this right here? What's this? What's this? 195 00:08:28,931 --> 00:08:30,172 TRAVIS: We got something! We got something! 196 00:08:30,275 --> 00:08:34,517 The UAPTF report mentioned where they were measuring RF. 197 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:36,482 -ERIK: Mm-hmm. -JEREMY: The problem 198 00:08:36,586 --> 00:08:38,827 with the UAPTF report is it doesn't go further than that. 199 00:08:38,931 --> 00:08:40,172 It was very vague. 200 00:08:40,275 --> 00:08:42,655 And-and one of the primary reasons 201 00:08:42,758 --> 00:08:44,965 that the UAPTF report is vague 202 00:08:45,068 --> 00:08:47,620 is that report is written knowing 203 00:08:47,724 --> 00:08:48,827 that enemies of the United States 204 00:08:48,931 --> 00:08:49,931 are going to read it. 205 00:08:50,034 --> 00:08:51,862 So we're not gonna put the meat and potatoes 206 00:08:51,965 --> 00:08:54,586 -in that thing. -JASON: [groans] I'm hurting. 207 00:08:54,689 --> 00:08:57,000 I just got a headache, bro. 208 00:08:57,103 --> 00:08:59,517 My head just started, like... [imitates explosion] 209 00:08:59,620 --> 00:09:02,620 -What is it? -Uh, his head is starting to hurt. 210 00:09:02,724 --> 00:09:04,931 -JASON: Like, really bad. -THOMAS: Like, 211 00:09:05,034 --> 00:09:06,586 -behind your eyes? -Yeah. -TRAVIS: Go turn on 212 00:09:06,689 --> 00:09:09,448 -the spectrum analyzer, Erik. -Yeah, we got to get the spectrum analyzer. 213 00:09:09,551 --> 00:09:11,896 Holy crap. 214 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,586 Yeah, bro, it's, like, hurting really bad. 215 00:09:14,689 --> 00:09:17,551 -THOMAS: Um, come with me. -Ever since we started driving in here. 216 00:09:17,655 --> 00:09:20,068 Just in case. 217 00:09:20,172 --> 00:09:23,689 JASON: [exhales] I'm hydrated, so I know I'm good, man. 218 00:09:23,793 --> 00:09:26,896 My freaking head is like... Oh, my God. 219 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,896 Here, jump in here real quick. 220 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,724 Gonna... 221 00:09:30,827 --> 00:09:32,896 TRAVIS: Scan the skies. 222 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,551 Scan the skies. 223 00:09:34,655 --> 00:09:37,206 JASON: It kind of just started out of nowhere. 224 00:09:38,482 --> 00:09:41,931 -THOMAS: We may have to get you off the ranch. -[groans softly] 225 00:09:48,413 --> 00:09:50,310 -THOMAS: Is it pretty good pounding? -JASON: Yeah. 226 00:09:50,413 --> 00:09:52,793 -I'm hurting. -THOMAS: Behind your eyes? 227 00:09:52,896 --> 00:09:55,413 -JASON: Right here. Like, right... -THOMAS: Yep. 228 00:09:56,413 --> 00:09:59,724 TRAVIS: During our meeting with the team from UAPx, 229 00:09:59,827 --> 00:10:02,620 out of nowhere, Jason Turner suddenly had 230 00:10:02,724 --> 00:10:05,275 a bizarre physical episode just like Thomas 231 00:10:05,379 --> 00:10:08,482 and myself and so many others have experienced 232 00:10:08,586 --> 00:10:10,379 here on Skinwalker Ranch. 233 00:10:10,482 --> 00:10:12,137 Look at my hands. 234 00:10:12,241 --> 00:10:14,482 THOMAS: Yeah, you're definitely shaking. 235 00:10:14,586 --> 00:10:16,965 Standing in the dark silo next to Jason, 236 00:10:17,068 --> 00:10:18,137 I can't help but flash back 237 00:10:18,241 --> 00:10:20,724 to the events that happened in the past. 238 00:10:20,827 --> 00:10:22,448 -Goodbye. -Yeah. 239 00:10:22,551 --> 00:10:24,103 -You okay? -Mm. 240 00:10:24,206 --> 00:10:26,103 Hey. 241 00:10:28,793 --> 00:10:30,068 TRAVIS: Tom, you all right? 242 00:10:30,172 --> 00:10:32,448 THOMAS: My head is-is hurting bad. 243 00:10:32,551 --> 00:10:34,310 TRAVIS: He needs to be in the car 244 00:10:34,413 --> 00:10:36,586 right now on the way to the emergency room. 245 00:10:37,517 --> 00:10:40,655 THOMAS: I can relate, unfortunately. 246 00:10:40,758 --> 00:10:43,862 Having experienced something similar, 247 00:10:43,965 --> 00:10:46,965 obviously, the first item is to get him to safety 248 00:10:47,068 --> 00:10:49,482 and see if we can stop what's happening. 249 00:10:49,586 --> 00:10:52,068 But I have a lot of worry in my heart. 250 00:10:52,172 --> 00:10:55,724 I suffered an injury. It almost cost me my life. 251 00:10:55,827 --> 00:10:58,310 I don't want to see anybody else hurt like that. 252 00:10:58,413 --> 00:11:00,620 TRAVIS: They put him in the Faraday cage 253 00:11:00,724 --> 00:11:02,517 -out there, so... Yeah. -ERIK: Is he out in the grain bin? 254 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:05,379 -So, hopefully, he's feeling better. -ERIK: Good thinking. 255 00:11:05,482 --> 00:11:07,206 TRAVIS: There's a metal silo 256 00:11:07,310 --> 00:11:08,862 outside the command center, 257 00:11:08,965 --> 00:11:11,551 and it acts like what's called a Faraday cage, 258 00:11:11,655 --> 00:11:14,310 meaning that the inside is shielded 259 00:11:14,413 --> 00:11:16,310 -from outside energy sources. -THOMAS: So, he was... 260 00:11:16,413 --> 00:11:18,344 -He was shaking pretty violently. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 261 00:11:18,448 --> 00:11:20,379 I mean, uncontrollably. 262 00:11:20,482 --> 00:11:22,724 TRAVIS: What Jason is describing sounds a lot 263 00:11:22,827 --> 00:11:24,551 like the effects of microwave exposure. 264 00:11:24,655 --> 00:11:27,241 So we decided to check the spectrum analyzer 265 00:11:27,344 --> 00:11:29,034 and see if any strange energy spikes 266 00:11:29,137 --> 00:11:30,758 suddenly emerged on the ranch. 267 00:11:32,310 --> 00:11:36,517 Oh, the Geiger counter's jumped up to 18. 268 00:11:36,620 --> 00:11:39,241 -It hit a 19. Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey. -ERIK: Look. Look, look, 269 00:11:39,344 --> 00:11:43,068 -look. Right here. -It's here. We got that 1.6 thing. 270 00:11:43,172 --> 00:11:45,103 -ERIK: Yeah. -But we're clearly getting that signal. 271 00:11:46,137 --> 00:11:49,379 Sure enough, Erik detected an RF radiation spike 272 00:11:49,482 --> 00:11:52,206 at 1.6 gigahertz on the spectrum analyzer. 273 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:56,000 In normal cases, it should be flatline. Zero. 274 00:11:56,103 --> 00:11:59,517 So something strange clearly happened on the ranch 275 00:11:59,620 --> 00:12:01,310 at the exact same time 276 00:12:01,413 --> 00:12:04,862 that Jason had those pains in his head. 277 00:12:04,965 --> 00:12:07,965 -How you feeling, man? -JASON: Holy crap, bro. 278 00:12:08,068 --> 00:12:09,379 BRYANT: If he steps out and it happens again, 279 00:12:09,482 --> 00:12:11,793 -I'm sorry, I'm gonna get you out of here. -JASON: Nah, I get you. 280 00:12:11,896 --> 00:12:13,068 -I understand, I understand. -Okay, I... 281 00:12:13,172 --> 00:12:15,448 TRAVIS: You feel like you're coming-coming down? 282 00:12:15,551 --> 00:12:17,758 -JASON: No. -We'll wait. 283 00:12:17,862 --> 00:12:19,793 TRAVIS: We were eager to get our experiment started, 284 00:12:19,896 --> 00:12:22,931 but Dragon was right that we needed to give Jason some time. 285 00:12:23,034 --> 00:12:24,793 Can you get me another water? 286 00:12:24,896 --> 00:12:26,620 TRAVIS: We wanted to make sure he was gonna be all right. 287 00:12:26,724 --> 00:12:29,103 And, of course, we wanted answers, 288 00:12:29,206 --> 00:12:32,034 but people's health and safety comes first. 289 00:12:32,137 --> 00:12:33,689 [exhales] 290 00:12:44,724 --> 00:12:46,758 KANDUS: I am excited that people are 291 00:12:46,862 --> 00:12:47,793 starting to be more open 292 00:12:47,896 --> 00:12:50,241 to wanting to share their story and put it 293 00:12:50,344 --> 00:12:52,275 -on record. -TOM: Kandus and I 294 00:12:52,379 --> 00:12:54,275 are caretakers of Skinwalker Ranch. 295 00:12:54,379 --> 00:12:56,379 Our role is to go off the ranch 296 00:12:56,482 --> 00:12:59,275 and bring back information to the team. 297 00:12:59,379 --> 00:13:01,344 Looks like Jeff's here, waiting 298 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:03,275 -for us. -TOM: All right. I'm excited to hear 299 00:13:03,379 --> 00:13:04,655 -his story. -KANDUS: Me too. 300 00:13:04,758 --> 00:13:06,310 TOM: And keep compiling 301 00:13:06,413 --> 00:13:08,689 this information, you know, bettering the picture, 302 00:13:08,793 --> 00:13:11,344 getting a little more focus on what's truly happening 303 00:13:11,448 --> 00:13:13,344 here on Skinwalker Ranch. 304 00:13:15,793 --> 00:13:17,275 -Kaleb? Good. -How's it going, Jeff? 305 00:13:17,379 --> 00:13:21,172 -This is Tom and Kandus. -TOM: Kaleb set up a meeting with a deputy, 306 00:13:21,275 --> 00:13:24,000 and he has a few things to share with us 307 00:13:24,103 --> 00:13:26,586 that may help us with the investigation on the ranch. 308 00:13:26,689 --> 00:13:29,724 Jeff, I figured that it'd be a good, uh, thing 309 00:13:29,827 --> 00:13:31,034 to have Tom and Kandus come out and meet with you 310 00:13:31,137 --> 00:13:33,551 so you could tell your story about what happened here. 311 00:13:33,655 --> 00:13:35,344 Perfect. We can do that. 312 00:13:35,448 --> 00:13:37,379 Kaleb's told us a little bit about what happened, 313 00:13:37,482 --> 00:13:39,482 but we're really interested in hearing 314 00:13:39,586 --> 00:13:40,655 your story. 315 00:13:40,758 --> 00:13:42,482 JEFF: I get a call last year. 316 00:13:42,586 --> 00:13:45,000 Approximately 8:00, 8:30. 317 00:13:45,103 --> 00:13:47,344 A possible drone flying around, 318 00:13:47,448 --> 00:13:50,310 looking in, uh, this homeowner's windows. 319 00:13:51,275 --> 00:13:53,482 KANDUS: So, how close to her house did it get? 320 00:13:53,586 --> 00:13:54,655 Did she say it was 321 00:13:54,758 --> 00:13:56,482 right up on it? 322 00:13:56,586 --> 00:13:58,344 She said it went around her house. 323 00:13:58,448 --> 00:14:00,344 On multiple different occasions. 324 00:14:00,448 --> 00:14:03,068 Problem that she had was it was scaring her. 325 00:14:03,172 --> 00:14:04,689 She didn't know what it was. 326 00:14:04,793 --> 00:14:07,379 Her family didn't know what it was, 327 00:14:07,482 --> 00:14:10,413 and it kept returning, and nobody had an answer 328 00:14:10,517 --> 00:14:12,172 for-for who or what. 329 00:14:14,206 --> 00:14:17,689 I come up here, I go knock on the door and I meet her. 330 00:14:17,793 --> 00:14:20,413 When I come up I see this big bright light. 331 00:14:20,517 --> 00:14:22,379 If you see the second telephone pole, 332 00:14:22,482 --> 00:14:24,724 if you go above that about two, three inches-- 333 00:14:24,827 --> 00:14:26,379 abnormally bright light. 334 00:14:28,517 --> 00:14:32,517 -So it was just bright, no color, no hint of any color? -Nope. 335 00:14:32,620 --> 00:14:33,344 Couldn't be a helicopter. 336 00:14:33,448 --> 00:14:34,724 -No flashing lights? -No fla... 337 00:14:34,827 --> 00:14:36,034 no flashing lights. 338 00:14:36,137 --> 00:14:39,241 I couldn't see any metal, any shape. 339 00:14:39,344 --> 00:14:43,689 After probably eight, ten minutes, 340 00:14:43,793 --> 00:14:46,000 it started to elevate, and it looked like 341 00:14:46,103 --> 00:14:51,000 it was traveling due west. And so I jumped in the truck, 342 00:14:51,103 --> 00:14:54,413 I went straight west and, uh, followed it. 343 00:14:54,517 --> 00:14:58,448 Now, as you went down this road, what hap-what happened next? 344 00:14:58,551 --> 00:15:01,482 Well, every once in a while, it looked like it was going 345 00:15:01,586 --> 00:15:05,310 up in elevation then coming down in elevation. 346 00:15:05,413 --> 00:15:08,827 And how high and low would you say, based on your eye? 347 00:15:08,931 --> 00:15:11,103 Well, it appeared to be, I don't know, a couple hundred 348 00:15:11,206 --> 00:15:12,310 feet off the ground here. 349 00:15:12,413 --> 00:15:14,448 And towards the end there, 350 00:15:14,551 --> 00:15:16,137 it was so high up that I actually had to 351 00:15:16,241 --> 00:15:17,931 look up through my windshield to actually see it. 352 00:15:18,034 --> 00:15:19,482 That's crazy. 353 00:15:19,586 --> 00:15:21,310 So, did it disappear at some point? 354 00:15:21,413 --> 00:15:22,793 No. Never lost track of it. 355 00:15:22,896 --> 00:15:25,448 But I followed it 20, 25 miles that way. 356 00:15:25,551 --> 00:15:26,482 Really? 357 00:15:26,586 --> 00:15:28,068 Until I ran out of road, 358 00:15:28,172 --> 00:15:29,482 and I just watched it drop 359 00:15:29,586 --> 00:15:32,137 -over the horizon. -Wow. 360 00:15:32,241 --> 00:15:34,758 As he's telling us about this bright light... 361 00:15:34,862 --> 00:15:36,793 We've heard this story before. You know? 362 00:15:36,896 --> 00:15:38,965 We've-we've seen them on the ranch. 363 00:15:39,068 --> 00:15:42,137 Holy [bleep]! Right there. 364 00:15:42,241 --> 00:15:42,965 What is that? What is that? 365 00:15:43,068 --> 00:15:44,655 We got-we got something, hold on. 366 00:15:44,758 --> 00:15:47,482 -Right there! -Yeah, I see it. -Oh, yeah. 367 00:15:47,586 --> 00:15:49,758 There's definitely a connection here. 368 00:15:49,862 --> 00:15:52,310 We're gonna take this back to the ranch, 369 00:15:52,413 --> 00:15:54,724 do a little more research on what-what happened 370 00:15:54,827 --> 00:15:56,655 that night on the ranch, what we picked up. 371 00:15:56,758 --> 00:15:58,655 Just can't thank you enough for bringing this 372 00:15:58,758 --> 00:16:00,517 -to our attention. -No problem. 373 00:16:00,620 --> 00:16:04,206 -All right, we'll see you. Thanks so much. -You betcha. 374 00:16:11,275 --> 00:16:13,172 BRYANT: So, are you back to feeling 375 00:16:13,275 --> 00:16:15,310 -good again? -Yeah. I'm back to a 100% again. 376 00:16:15,413 --> 00:16:17,896 That's good. That's some scary stuff. 377 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,379 TRAVIS: About an hour after Jason's strange headache, 378 00:16:20,482 --> 00:16:21,965 he was feeling normal again, 379 00:16:22,068 --> 00:16:24,379 so we got back together to continue the meeting 380 00:16:24,482 --> 00:16:26,206 and review the plan for our experiment. 381 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:28,034 Two years, we've shot off rockets, 382 00:16:28,137 --> 00:16:29,689 in the direction of the triangle, 383 00:16:29,793 --> 00:16:31,862 two years we've seen UAPS. 384 00:16:31,965 --> 00:16:33,034 You guys want to shoot some rockets 385 00:16:33,137 --> 00:16:34,379 off with us, see what we can find? 386 00:16:34,482 --> 00:16:36,862 Oh, yes, for sure. 387 00:16:36,965 --> 00:16:40,206 We're hoping with this experiment it's just another 388 00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:43,758 opportunity to do a stimulus, see if there's an effect. 389 00:16:43,862 --> 00:16:46,551 We would hope to see something. 390 00:16:46,655 --> 00:16:49,862 Obviously, the most important, uh, 391 00:16:49,965 --> 00:16:53,000 thing that we take out of this exercise are the data. 392 00:16:53,103 --> 00:16:54,724 So we really need to be 393 00:16:54,827 --> 00:16:56,724 getting them out there with their equipment. 394 00:16:56,827 --> 00:16:58,206 I'm thinking set them up somewhere where they can 395 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:59,689 get a good view of the triangle or something. 396 00:16:59,793 --> 00:17:01,586 Sounds like a plan. 397 00:17:01,689 --> 00:17:03,275 If you guys don't mind, uh, they'll take you to show 398 00:17:03,379 --> 00:17:05,068 you where to set up your instruments and stuff, 399 00:17:05,172 --> 00:17:06,931 we've got some setting up to do get the rockets 400 00:17:07,034 --> 00:17:10,551 -ready to go, and then we'll start. -Let's go. 401 00:17:10,655 --> 00:17:12,620 TRAVIS: We got a lot to do. 402 00:17:20,344 --> 00:17:24,551 This is called the OSIRIS, which is the "off-road 403 00:17:24,655 --> 00:17:28,379 scientific investigation response informatics system." 404 00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:30,965 It is much easier just to say OSIRIS. 405 00:17:31,068 --> 00:17:32,896 I just started building a vehicle 406 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,379 that was designed to physically track UAP to 407 00:17:36,482 --> 00:17:39,862 -capture solid actionable data. -Okay. 408 00:17:39,965 --> 00:17:43,206 Because we've had success in stimulating UAP to appear above 409 00:17:43,310 --> 00:17:44,655 the ranch in the past, 410 00:17:44,758 --> 00:17:47,137 the plan is to launch rockets back up 411 00:17:47,241 --> 00:17:50,344 into the triangle and utilize Jeremy's OSIRIS vehicle 412 00:17:50,448 --> 00:17:53,206 to track and identify anything strange that occurs. 413 00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:57,034 Hopefully, UAPx offers the best chance yet 414 00:17:57,137 --> 00:17:59,137 to really get some answers. 415 00:17:59,241 --> 00:18:01,103 What kind of instruments and things are in there? 416 00:18:01,206 --> 00:18:04,103 Pop open the back here. 417 00:18:04,206 --> 00:18:05,793 Looks like you got a steerable camera? 418 00:18:05,896 --> 00:18:08,241 JEREMY: Yeah. When an object is detected, 419 00:18:08,344 --> 00:18:10,793 it has the ability to not only digitally but also 420 00:18:10,896 --> 00:18:13,620 physically track the object as it goes through the sky. 421 00:18:13,724 --> 00:18:16,275 I've got a directional antenna on a swivel mount 422 00:18:16,379 --> 00:18:18,275 that gets mounted on the hood so when I can see 423 00:18:18,379 --> 00:18:21,068 the frequency spikes, I can actually pinpoint the location 424 00:18:21,172 --> 00:18:22,862 that the frequencies are coming in from. 425 00:18:22,965 --> 00:18:24,655 Nice. 426 00:18:24,758 --> 00:18:26,551 And I've got, uh, multiple cameras. 427 00:18:26,655 --> 00:18:28,172 We've got magnetometers, gyroscopes. 428 00:18:28,275 --> 00:18:29,862 And I've got everything running 429 00:18:29,965 --> 00:18:32,068 with a, uh, a computer between the seats. 430 00:18:32,172 --> 00:18:34,758 And then, in the very front, I've got a touch panel. 431 00:18:34,862 --> 00:18:35,724 TRAVIS: The OSIRIS is going to be 432 00:18:35,827 --> 00:18:38,448 so valuable to our investigation 433 00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:41,793 because it has advanced aerial detection capabilities. 434 00:18:41,896 --> 00:18:44,758 It uses sophisticated 360-degree cameras 435 00:18:44,862 --> 00:18:46,758 that continually scan the skies, 436 00:18:46,862 --> 00:18:48,413 looking for anything anomalous 437 00:18:48,517 --> 00:18:50,931 beyond conventional aircraft, like UAPs. 438 00:18:51,034 --> 00:18:53,862 So, Kaleb, uh, what I'd like you to do, then, 439 00:18:53,965 --> 00:18:57,103 -is take them out into the south field, here. -Uh-huh. 440 00:18:57,206 --> 00:18:58,965 Get them in a spot that has a good field of view. 441 00:18:59,068 --> 00:19:00,620 You know where we've seen the things. Get them where 442 00:19:00,724 --> 00:19:02,103 -they can see that good. -Okay. 443 00:19:02,206 --> 00:19:03,655 Uh, you guys are going to run, 444 00:19:03,758 --> 00:19:05,862 -chase the rockets for us? -Yes, we are. 445 00:19:05,965 --> 00:19:07,241 You all got a walkie, right? Everybody's gonna have walkies. 446 00:19:07,344 --> 00:19:10,206 -We do. Yeah, we do. -Uh, so Gary, you're going with us. 447 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:12,379 -Yep. -All right, well, let's do it. Let's load everything UP 448 00:19:12,482 --> 00:19:13,931 and let's get going. 449 00:19:18,620 --> 00:19:21,724 BRYANT: Having the UAPX guys out here with their OSIRIS 450 00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,827 vehicle, with all their monitoring, we can take a look 451 00:19:23,931 --> 00:19:26,103 at what's going on and maybe monitor 452 00:19:26,206 --> 00:19:27,724 if there's any more strangeness. 453 00:19:27,827 --> 00:19:29,827 And we've got this new asset in the OSIRIS 454 00:19:29,931 --> 00:19:32,896 that has all sorts of instrumentation 455 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,310 that should help us out a lot. 456 00:19:34,413 --> 00:19:36,344 This is good. 457 00:19:36,448 --> 00:19:37,620 All right, let's just start getting all this 458 00:19:37,724 --> 00:19:41,137 stuff out. I think the launchpad should be about right there. 459 00:19:41,241 --> 00:19:42,517 TRAVIS: To have these military experts 460 00:19:42,620 --> 00:19:44,310 helping our investigation 461 00:19:44,413 --> 00:19:46,793 really drove home the fact that what we're doing 462 00:19:46,896 --> 00:19:49,034 here at Skinwalker Ranch could have 463 00:19:49,137 --> 00:19:53,000 huge implications for the entire world regarding UAPs. 464 00:19:53,103 --> 00:19:57,241 Plug this one into the, uh, MSDAU on the other side. 465 00:19:57,344 --> 00:19:58,827 The one on the back side, there. 466 00:19:58,931 --> 00:20:00,724 Thank you. We need to get this on there. 467 00:20:00,827 --> 00:20:03,379 -What, are we putting, smoke on it? -You're damn right. 468 00:20:03,482 --> 00:20:05,827 TRAVIS: We attached a smoke bomb to the first rocket 469 00:20:05,931 --> 00:20:07,827 to see if the trail it left behind 470 00:20:07,931 --> 00:20:10,034 would reveal any deviations 471 00:20:10,137 --> 00:20:13,103 during its ascent, and if it did, then that could help us 472 00:20:13,206 --> 00:20:15,482 further pinpoint the anomaly above the triangle. 473 00:20:15,586 --> 00:20:17,482 Hey, Jason, you want to hit that inverter? 474 00:20:17,586 --> 00:20:19,620 I got you. It's on. 475 00:20:19,724 --> 00:20:21,172 KALEB: You guys have your own spectrum analyzer 476 00:20:21,275 --> 00:20:22,620 and all that, right? 477 00:20:22,724 --> 00:20:24,655 Yes. Yes, we do. 478 00:20:24,758 --> 00:20:26,482 Hey, Erik, we're ready to load 479 00:20:26,586 --> 00:20:29,000 payload A into the rocket. 480 00:20:29,103 --> 00:20:30,655 Are you ready for us to pull the tab? 481 00:20:30,758 --> 00:20:33,724 That's affirmative. Go ahead. 482 00:20:33,827 --> 00:20:35,689 We have a checklist of necessary items 483 00:20:35,793 --> 00:20:37,862 that we go through before each rocket launch. 484 00:20:37,965 --> 00:20:40,931 We load the payload after making sure that it's functioning 485 00:20:41,034 --> 00:20:43,655 with our instruments on board, we check to make sure 486 00:20:43,758 --> 00:20:46,344 that our igniters are properly positioned. 487 00:20:46,448 --> 00:20:49,344 All right, Jason, everything is running right now. 488 00:20:49,448 --> 00:20:51,758 -All right, everything's running. We're good. -Roger that. 489 00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:56,000 Having gone through our checklist 490 00:20:56,103 --> 00:20:57,827 we launched our first rocket. 491 00:20:57,931 --> 00:21:01,275 All right, here we go. Rocket is going hot. 492 00:21:03,793 --> 00:21:05,000 Hot. 493 00:21:08,344 --> 00:21:10,551 Five, four, three, 494 00:21:10,655 --> 00:21:13,517 two, one. 495 00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:14,827 You got to be kidding me. 496 00:21:16,793 --> 00:21:18,724 -Oh, [bleep]. -What? 497 00:21:18,827 --> 00:21:21,000 Everything just went offline. 498 00:21:21,103 --> 00:21:23,517 -Everything? -Computers shut down. 499 00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:25,448 -Everything went offline. -Oh, geez. 500 00:21:25,551 --> 00:21:28,103 -Pop, come on, pop. Pop! -Come on, go, go, go, go. 501 00:21:30,034 --> 00:21:33,931 Be advised, all of OSIRIS' equipment just died. 502 00:21:35,344 --> 00:21:37,724 OSIRIS is dead. Everything went down. 503 00:21:37,827 --> 00:21:38,827 No kidding? 504 00:21:38,931 --> 00:21:40,206 The inverter apparently just 505 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:42,793 went all nines across its display screen. 506 00:21:44,172 --> 00:21:46,310 JEREMY: My equipment's not working. I've worked out 507 00:21:46,413 --> 00:21:47,551 all the bugs that I could have 508 00:21:47,655 --> 00:21:50,551 possibly worked out in the OSIRIS. This doesn't 509 00:21:50,655 --> 00:21:52,310 make any sense to me. 510 00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:54,551 -Something's nukin' it. -GARY: Yeah. 511 00:21:54,655 --> 00:21:55,827 Is it coming back up? 512 00:21:55,931 --> 00:21:57,103 Trying. 513 00:21:57,206 --> 00:21:58,586 We're trying. 514 00:21:58,689 --> 00:22:00,551 THOMAS: Here we are, bringing on 515 00:22:00,655 --> 00:22:04,103 this sophisticated monitoring equipment, 516 00:22:04,206 --> 00:22:07,931 and right before we're to launch, it goes down. 517 00:22:08,034 --> 00:22:10,241 As sophisticated as their equipment is, 518 00:22:10,344 --> 00:22:12,137 it's no match for whatever it is that's 519 00:22:12,241 --> 00:22:14,241 happening here on Skinwalker Ranch. 520 00:22:14,344 --> 00:22:17,793 All right, we're recording. We're running. 521 00:22:17,896 --> 00:22:19,137 Hey, Thomas, 522 00:22:19,241 --> 00:22:21,379 OSIRIS is back up and running. 523 00:22:22,379 --> 00:22:24,068 We need to get this rocket in the air. 524 00:22:24,172 --> 00:22:25,517 All right, we're gonna go ahead and launch rocket. 525 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:28,931 TRAVIS: You get right down, you tape that thing together good. 526 00:22:29,034 --> 00:22:30,482 THOMAS: Hey, guys, we are getting ready to launch 527 00:22:30,586 --> 00:22:31,965 the second package. 528 00:22:32,068 --> 00:22:35,172 TRAVIS: Right now, I think we're good. 529 00:22:35,275 --> 00:22:37,103 All right, let's tilt her back up now. 530 00:22:37,206 --> 00:22:40,517 Shoot it mostly straight up. So, about... 531 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:42,586 -All right. -Launch will be 532 00:22:42,689 --> 00:22:43,620 in 30 seconds. 533 00:22:43,724 --> 00:22:46,758 -All right, I'm about to go hot. -All right. 534 00:22:46,862 --> 00:22:48,000 T-minus 20. 535 00:22:53,413 --> 00:22:55,965 T-minus ten. 536 00:22:56,068 --> 00:22:56,793 All right, here we go. Here we go. 537 00:22:56,896 --> 00:22:59,137 Everybody back. Safe distances. 538 00:22:59,241 --> 00:23:01,034 It's all you, Thomas. 539 00:23:01,137 --> 00:23:03,034 Four, three, 540 00:23:03,137 --> 00:23:04,793 -two, one. -Is it doing it again? -[beep] 541 00:23:06,655 --> 00:23:08,724 I'm not getting power to the computer. 542 00:23:10,137 --> 00:23:11,551 Oh, that's a good launch. 543 00:23:11,655 --> 00:23:13,655 -Oh, yeah, good launch. -Much better. 544 00:23:13,758 --> 00:23:15,034 Come on, chute. 545 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:18,034 Where's the chute? 546 00:23:18,137 --> 00:23:19,965 -There we go! We got chute! -THOMAS: We got chute. 547 00:23:20,068 --> 00:23:22,896 Nice! Good chute. 548 00:23:24,413 --> 00:23:26,000 OSIRIS just went down the moment you said 549 00:23:26,103 --> 00:23:28,689 that you were gonna launch rocket number two. 550 00:23:28,793 --> 00:23:30,448 Hey, Travis. 551 00:23:31,965 --> 00:23:32,965 OSIRIS just went down again. 552 00:23:33,068 --> 00:23:36,724 TRAVIS: Are you kidding me? That's crazy. 553 00:23:43,896 --> 00:23:45,620 JASON: See this whole thing? Look at this. 554 00:23:45,724 --> 00:23:47,620 -JEREMY: I know. -JASON: It keeps shutting off. 555 00:23:47,724 --> 00:23:50,413 JEREMY: For some reason, it's getting a bad signal from the inverter. 556 00:23:50,517 --> 00:23:51,793 Yeah, look-- all nines. 557 00:23:51,896 --> 00:23:55,758 I don't quite understand that. I don't understand that at all. 558 00:23:55,862 --> 00:23:59,275 The OSIRIS incorporates a software control system 559 00:23:59,379 --> 00:24:02,551 which uses camera analytics and object detection 560 00:24:02,655 --> 00:24:04,344 with AI and machine learning. 561 00:24:04,448 --> 00:24:07,482 I ran baselines on the spectrum analyzers. 562 00:24:07,586 --> 00:24:10,517 Uh, the cameras were tested. And my equipment's not working. 563 00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:13,482 It is... "Disappointing" is an understatement. 564 00:24:13,586 --> 00:24:15,965 All right, I've got one camera actively recording. 565 00:24:16,068 --> 00:24:17,551 Waiting on the other two. 566 00:24:17,655 --> 00:24:19,689 TRAVIS: With each launch so far 567 00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:22,517 the OSIRIS vehicle turns itself off. 568 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:23,758 All the equipment stops working. 569 00:24:23,862 --> 00:24:25,862 How is that even possible? 570 00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,482 All cameras recording. We're up and running. 571 00:24:28,586 --> 00:24:30,000 Copy that. 572 00:24:30,103 --> 00:24:32,655 We're going to launch a rocket right now. 573 00:24:32,758 --> 00:24:34,827 Five, four, 574 00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:36,482 -I went down again. -three, two, 575 00:24:36,586 --> 00:24:38,724 -one, ignition. -JEREMY: What the hell? 576 00:24:41,827 --> 00:24:45,344 So, one time is an accident. 577 00:24:45,448 --> 00:24:48,758 Two times is a coincidence. I've got nothing. I... 578 00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:52,862 No reasonable explanation that I have can explain this. 579 00:24:52,965 --> 00:24:54,862 Yep, yep, yeah, yeah. 580 00:24:54,965 --> 00:24:56,655 TRAVIS: That's coming down on us. That's gonna come right 581 00:24:56,758 --> 00:24:57,862 -on top of us. -Just about. 582 00:24:57,965 --> 00:24:59,827 -Hey, look! UAP, right there! -BRYANT: Yep. 583 00:24:59,931 --> 00:25:02,724 -I see it. -BRYANT: Yep, there it is. You got one. 584 00:25:02,827 --> 00:25:05,172 Yup, there it is, right there, right there. 585 00:25:05,275 --> 00:25:06,551 Oh, yeah. 586 00:25:06,655 --> 00:25:10,344 This is the first time I've seen anything like this since 2004. 587 00:25:10,448 --> 00:25:14,344 In other investigations, we saw the phenomena in data. 588 00:25:14,448 --> 00:25:16,482 This one we could actually see with the naked eye. 589 00:25:16,586 --> 00:25:19,241 Right there, right there! It's-it's brilliantly bright, 590 00:25:19,344 --> 00:25:20,931 too. Somebody get on with Erik. See if he's getting anything 591 00:25:21,034 --> 00:25:24,241 -on the spectrum analyzer. -THOMAS: Erik, do you, uh... We've got a UAP 592 00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:25,689 up in the sky right now. 593 00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:30,655 Look in the sky, y'all! 594 00:25:31,689 --> 00:25:34,241 Let 'em-let 'em know I'm down again. 595 00:25:34,344 --> 00:25:36,103 Did y'all see that? 596 00:25:37,344 --> 00:25:39,586 Bright boxes, like we saw last time. See, right there. 597 00:25:39,689 --> 00:25:40,758 Got to be [bleep] me. 598 00:25:40,862 --> 00:25:43,413 This is the first time since I saw the Tic Tac 599 00:25:43,517 --> 00:25:46,862 in 2004 that I actually saw something in person. 600 00:25:46,965 --> 00:25:49,241 Literally, a UAP just sitting there. 601 00:25:49,344 --> 00:25:52,241 It's a 100% real, and it's honestly amazing 602 00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:54,931 to be out here and actually see something. 603 00:25:55,034 --> 00:25:56,724 -TRAVIS: Come over here! -GARY: Yeah, it's behind the clouds now. 604 00:25:56,827 --> 00:25:58,482 Crap. That thing is bright. 605 00:25:58,586 --> 00:26:00,137 -Are they always that bright? -And it's gone. 606 00:26:00,241 --> 00:26:03,793 GARY: I literally see this object, 607 00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:05,413 and then it just disappeared. 608 00:26:05,517 --> 00:26:07,482 I mean, literally just disappeared. Gone. 609 00:26:07,586 --> 00:26:11,482 Very similar or even the same characteristics 610 00:26:11,586 --> 00:26:15,137 as the Tic Tac did during the 2004Nimitz encounter. 611 00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:16,310 KALEB: Have I said, uh, 612 00:26:16,413 --> 00:26:19,310 -"Welcome to Skinwalker Ranch" yet? -Hoorah. 613 00:26:19,413 --> 00:26:21,241 JASON: What would be causing that? 614 00:26:21,344 --> 00:26:24,655 -I don't know. -This is crazy right here, bro. 615 00:26:24,758 --> 00:26:26,551 Yeah, I'm gonna have to jury-rig it. 616 00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:37,655 -Rocket is hot! -JEREMY: I lost 617 00:26:37,758 --> 00:26:39,310 total functionality. 618 00:26:39,413 --> 00:26:42,482 It was just fine a couple minutes ago. 619 00:26:42,586 --> 00:26:44,758 TRAVIS: It was just bizarre and baffling 620 00:26:44,862 --> 00:26:46,655 that OSIRIS kept shutting down 621 00:26:46,758 --> 00:26:49,068 and was unable to collect any data. 622 00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:51,000 But then again, the timing-- 623 00:26:51,103 --> 00:26:53,310 right before each rocket launch-- 624 00:26:53,413 --> 00:26:57,827 may also be good data in itself. We can't prove it yet, 625 00:26:57,931 --> 00:26:59,827 but it was like something was actively 626 00:26:59,931 --> 00:27:03,862 intervening to stop it from working just before each launch. 627 00:27:03,965 --> 00:27:07,068 Four, three, two... 628 00:27:09,482 --> 00:27:11,689 TRAVIS: We still kept launching rockets 629 00:27:11,793 --> 00:27:13,275 to see if any more UAPs would appear. 630 00:27:13,379 --> 00:27:14,344 Good chute. 631 00:27:14,448 --> 00:27:15,724 Five, four... 632 00:27:15,827 --> 00:27:19,068 Well, the spectrum analyzer is starting to go out again. 633 00:27:19,172 --> 00:27:20,793 It's right before they do another rocket launch. 634 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,206 TRAVIS: Kill the lights, we're gonna sit and watch 635 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:25,551 the skies for a little bit. 636 00:27:25,655 --> 00:27:27,896 After our rockets were launched, 637 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,034 we waited for almost an hour and didn't see anything 638 00:27:31,137 --> 00:27:34,896 else in the sky, and OSIRIS continued to fail. 639 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,896 Things didn't go the way we had planned with the data 640 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,862 collection, and that is unfortunately becoming common 641 00:27:40,965 --> 00:27:42,931 during experiments here on Skinwalker Ranch. 642 00:27:43,034 --> 00:27:47,517 Well, um... we've-we've done a-a lot. 643 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,206 We've launch eight rockets 644 00:27:49,310 --> 00:27:51,379 and Erik's got more data than he can 645 00:27:51,482 --> 00:27:52,551 deal with right now, I'm sure, 646 00:27:52,655 --> 00:27:56,068 So, uh, I appreciate it, and I say, uh, with that, 647 00:27:56,172 --> 00:27:57,448 let's call it a night. 648 00:27:57,551 --> 00:27:58,413 But, you know, 649 00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:01,655 it was incredible to see and document 650 00:28:01,758 --> 00:28:03,620 UAPs, especially with this team, 651 00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:05,758 given their past experiences. 652 00:28:05,862 --> 00:28:07,758 I have a suspicion that, uh, 653 00:28:07,862 --> 00:28:09,931 all this UAP stuff, 654 00:28:10,034 --> 00:28:11,241 whether it's here or elsewhere-- 655 00:28:11,344 --> 00:28:13,413 I think it's connected. 656 00:28:25,206 --> 00:28:27,241 -[vehicle doors close] -JIM: Good to see you guys. 657 00:28:27,344 --> 00:28:28,758 -KANDUS: Always. -JIM: Got a good friend here and a neighbor 658 00:28:28,862 --> 00:28:30,275 -of ours, this is Corey. -Oh. 659 00:28:30,379 --> 00:28:31,827 -Hello. -All right. 660 00:28:31,931 --> 00:28:34,172 -Hi, Corey, I'm Tom. And this is Kandus. -Hi. 661 00:28:34,275 --> 00:28:37,448 TOM: Deputy Kearney gave us some fascinating information, 662 00:28:37,551 --> 00:28:40,448 and we're taking it very seriously 663 00:28:40,551 --> 00:28:42,448 during this research process. 664 00:28:42,551 --> 00:28:45,931 We have to keep our minds open and explore every option. 665 00:28:46,034 --> 00:28:47,758 This is the first time that Corey has 666 00:28:47,862 --> 00:28:49,448 -ventured into the ranch. -Yeah. 667 00:28:49,551 --> 00:28:52,793 -KANDUS: Oh, really? -TOM: Today, Jim is bringing in 668 00:28:52,896 --> 00:28:55,965 Corey Serawop, who lives just down the road from here, 669 00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:58,620 to speak with us about a strange event that 670 00:28:58,724 --> 00:29:02,241 happened to him. Something he saw with his own eyes. 671 00:29:02,344 --> 00:29:03,862 -If we could, maybe we can walk around the back. -KANDUS: Yeah. 672 00:29:03,965 --> 00:29:04,827 -Let's go on back and sit down. -TOM: Yeah, we got 673 00:29:04,931 --> 00:29:06,000 -a place to sit. -That-that'd be great. 674 00:29:06,103 --> 00:29:07,275 KANDUS: Corey is a local 675 00:29:07,379 --> 00:29:10,827 Ute Native American, and has some stories to share. 676 00:29:10,931 --> 00:29:14,172 His ancestors go back 677 00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:17,000 thousands of years in this area. 678 00:29:17,103 --> 00:29:19,655 What are some of the oral traditions that have 679 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,137 been passed down to you about 680 00:29:22,241 --> 00:29:24,172 maybe Skinwalker Ranch, 681 00:29:24,275 --> 00:29:27,310 and skinwalkers, particularly? 682 00:29:27,413 --> 00:29:32,000 Hmm. What I was told is that the land here has 683 00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:35,758 been cursed because there was a battle that was 684 00:29:35,862 --> 00:29:38,206 fought between the Navajos and the Ute. 685 00:29:39,793 --> 00:29:42,344 TRAVIS: The legend of the malevolent shape-shifting entity 686 00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:46,000 known as the skinwalker started from a reported curse 687 00:29:46,103 --> 00:29:48,758 that the indigenous Navajo people in this area 688 00:29:48,862 --> 00:29:52,172 put on the Ute people during a bitter conflict 689 00:29:52,275 --> 00:29:53,793 back in the 19th century. 690 00:29:53,896 --> 00:29:56,172 But what's really interesting is that both nations 691 00:29:56,275 --> 00:29:59,344 have reported bizarre aerial phenomena, 692 00:29:59,448 --> 00:30:01,965 potentially dating back thousands of years. 693 00:30:02,862 --> 00:30:07,137 So, are you from this area, directly? 694 00:30:07,241 --> 00:30:09,448 -Yes, I am. I grew up in Randlett, and -KANDUS: Okay. Okay. 695 00:30:09,551 --> 00:30:13,275 it's just, probably, like, maybe five miles down the road, here. 696 00:30:13,379 --> 00:30:14,689 And I was working at the treatment center... 697 00:30:14,793 --> 00:30:17,344 -And that is on tribal land? -COREY: That is on tribal land. 698 00:30:17,448 --> 00:30:19,172 You know, we did the graveyard shift. 699 00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:23,517 It was a Sunday, I remember that. 6:00 in the morning. 700 00:30:23,620 --> 00:30:27,689 Um, it was dark, quiet. It was foggy outside, it was weird. 701 00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:31,620 And the TV did this weird pixilation thing, 702 00:30:31,724 --> 00:30:33,275 and the power went out. 703 00:30:33,379 --> 00:30:36,517 So I went up, got up to get the flashlight, 704 00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:39,931 and there's lights coming from outside, above the building. 705 00:30:40,034 --> 00:30:41,551 -TOM: Really? -What? 706 00:30:41,655 --> 00:30:44,068 COREY: And it was like... seeing this big old light 707 00:30:44,172 --> 00:30:45,172 above our building. 708 00:30:45,275 --> 00:30:47,862 It was pretty fascinating, 'cause it was red, 709 00:30:47,965 --> 00:30:51,137 blue and green, hovering above the building. 710 00:30:53,068 --> 00:30:55,344 -I was scared. -Yeah, sure, sure. 711 00:30:55,448 --> 00:30:57,172 -How big was this? -Uh, it was probably 712 00:30:57,275 --> 00:30:58,517 about big as a small plane. 713 00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:00,689 TOM: Wow, that's amazing. 714 00:31:00,793 --> 00:31:03,413 How high was it in the air? What would be your guess? 715 00:31:03,517 --> 00:31:05,896 Maybe about 25 feet. 716 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,413 -Okay. -It's close. -It's... 717 00:31:07,517 --> 00:31:09,517 -It was over the roof. -COREY: Yeah, it was just over the roof, 718 00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:11,206 hovering over the roof, 719 00:31:11,310 --> 00:31:13,551 then the lights coming from underneath it. 720 00:31:13,655 --> 00:31:16,241 And in my mind I'm like, "Man, that's a UFO." 721 00:31:23,827 --> 00:31:25,931 It was just over the roof, hovering over the roof. 722 00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:28,241 Then the lights coming from underneath it. 723 00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:31,310 And in my mind I'm like, "Man, that's a UFO," you know? 724 00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:35,034 And then how long was it there? 725 00:31:35,137 --> 00:31:38,068 I'd say probably close to maybe 30 minutes 726 00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:39,965 -to 40 minutes. -My gosh, that's just crazy. 727 00:31:40,068 --> 00:31:43,310 As quickly as it lit up, it went black. 728 00:31:43,413 --> 00:31:45,586 -Like, it turned off the lights. -TOM: Did you see it again? 729 00:31:45,689 --> 00:31:47,655 -Did you see... -No, we didn't see it again. 730 00:31:47,758 --> 00:31:49,000 -It was just gone? -It was just gone. 731 00:31:49,103 --> 00:31:52,310 -Was there any sound involved with this? -COREY: No. 732 00:31:52,413 --> 00:31:55,275 That was the crazy thing. The ship itself-- the UFO-- 733 00:31:55,379 --> 00:31:56,931 did not make any noise. 734 00:31:57,034 --> 00:31:59,137 There was no sound at all. 735 00:31:59,241 --> 00:32:03,379 Seeing what I saw was a really big experience. 736 00:32:03,482 --> 00:32:05,379 KANDUS: It's crazy, 'cause some of the things 737 00:32:05,482 --> 00:32:08,551 Corey was telling us are identical, almost, 738 00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:11,034 to what officer Kearney was telling us. 739 00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:13,206 There's a pattern going on here. 740 00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:16,241 What would be the advice of the elders? 741 00:32:16,344 --> 00:32:19,206 Do they basically advise you after you experience 742 00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:21,206 something as profound as that? 743 00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:23,724 Some elders say, "Don't say anything. 744 00:32:23,827 --> 00:32:27,448 -Don't mention it. Don't talk about it." -Yeah, I know. 745 00:32:27,551 --> 00:32:32,310 Why do the elders ask you not to talk about things like this? 746 00:32:32,413 --> 00:32:37,448 I think in our tradition, if you see something like a UFO, 747 00:32:37,551 --> 00:32:39,482 skinwalker, you know, something like that, 748 00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:41,034 you don't talk about it 749 00:32:41,137 --> 00:32:43,655 because you don't want to have that negativeness 750 00:32:43,758 --> 00:32:47,206 come back from that to you, your family. 751 00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:51,551 The history, the ethnography of-of these legends 752 00:32:51,655 --> 00:32:54,724 sometimes take picture form, like petroglyphs 753 00:32:54,827 --> 00:32:56,724 or pictographs. Have you ever seen anything? 754 00:32:56,827 --> 00:32:58,000 You should check out McConkie Ranch. 755 00:32:58,103 --> 00:33:02,068 You see ones that look like the humans, like regular, 756 00:33:02,172 --> 00:33:04,551 you know, indigenous humans, and then the other ones 757 00:33:04,655 --> 00:33:08,896 that look like something, maybe an alien type. 758 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,448 TOM: We're definitely gonna go check out McConkie Ranch. 759 00:33:11,551 --> 00:33:14,724 I think it would be wise for us to get, uh, 760 00:33:14,827 --> 00:33:18,965 somebody that can help us interpret these petroglyphs, um, 761 00:33:19,068 --> 00:33:20,620 give us another point of view. 762 00:33:20,724 --> 00:33:23,448 Can't wait to get up there and check it out. 763 00:33:23,551 --> 00:33:26,931 Well, Corey, thank you so much for coming 764 00:33:27,034 --> 00:33:28,793 on the ranch, sharing your story. 765 00:33:28,896 --> 00:33:30,758 I appreciate you guys having me out here. 766 00:33:30,862 --> 00:33:32,758 TOM: With all these stories, 767 00:33:32,862 --> 00:33:35,793 very similar stories being told to us, 768 00:33:35,896 --> 00:33:37,793 it makes you wonder, wh... you know, 769 00:33:37,896 --> 00:33:40,758 when does that change from, you know, 770 00:33:40,862 --> 00:33:44,931 mythology, lore, to a fact? 771 00:33:45,034 --> 00:33:47,724 -JIM: Thank you. -Thanks for taking all this time. 772 00:33:47,827 --> 00:33:50,000 -Yeah, no problem. -Yeah. It's been fun. 773 00:34:00,517 --> 00:34:02,517 -THOMAS: There they are. -Hey, guys. 774 00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:03,517 -How's it going? -Hey. Brandon. 775 00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:04,655 -Good to see you guys. -Hey, Brandon. 776 00:34:04,758 --> 00:34:05,827 -Good to see you. -Good to be back. 777 00:34:05,931 --> 00:34:08,137 TRAVIS: After everything our team 778 00:34:08,241 --> 00:34:09,689 heard this week and also 779 00:34:09,793 --> 00:34:12,034 experienced with the representatives from UAPx, 780 00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:14,275 we really needed to meet with Brandon and figure out 781 00:34:14,379 --> 00:34:17,689 what our next move would be for this investigation. 782 00:34:17,793 --> 00:34:19,931 Well, tell me what's been going on. 783 00:34:20,034 --> 00:34:22,793 We have some things to share with you about some activities 784 00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:26,000 that we conducted. In particular, when we had the guys 785 00:34:26,103 --> 00:34:29,000 from UAPx join us here on the ranch. 786 00:34:29,103 --> 00:34:30,689 We had some interesting things happen 787 00:34:30,793 --> 00:34:33,137 with equipment. We had some things seen 788 00:34:33,241 --> 00:34:35,172 in the sky over the ranch. 789 00:34:35,275 --> 00:34:37,000 Really? 790 00:34:37,103 --> 00:34:39,172 Well, I would love to see this footage. 791 00:34:39,275 --> 00:34:40,482 Okay, well, I have it queued up. 792 00:34:43,275 --> 00:34:44,862 TRAVIS: So, this is out at the triangle, 793 00:34:44,965 --> 00:34:46,000 -looking to the west. -There it is. You see it. 794 00:34:46,103 --> 00:34:47,344 You see it appear in the sky... 795 00:34:48,413 --> 00:34:50,827 -...as a bright, shiny sphere. -BRYANT: You see that, Brandon? 796 00:34:50,931 --> 00:34:53,172 BRANDON: Yeah. 797 00:34:53,275 --> 00:34:55,827 So, Brandon, you can see it right here. 798 00:34:55,931 --> 00:34:57,000 -Right. -BRYANT: Right? And, so, 799 00:34:57,103 --> 00:34:59,689 we pointed that out, 800 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:02,655 and the gentleman from UAPx looked up at it 801 00:35:02,758 --> 00:35:04,586 and was startled 802 00:35:04,689 --> 00:35:08,241 and said, "That looks just like what I saw 803 00:35:08,344 --> 00:35:10,413 during the Tic Tac." 804 00:35:10,517 --> 00:35:14,310 And he's like, "I've never seen that since then." 805 00:35:19,172 --> 00:35:21,896 So, former military 806 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,758 who have gone on record before 807 00:35:23,862 --> 00:35:25,896 relative to witnessing 808 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,517 unidentified aerial phenomena, 809 00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:29,551 here on Skinwalker Ranch, 810 00:35:29,655 --> 00:35:33,413 -witnessed similar phenomena -TRAVIS: He-he said... 811 00:35:33,517 --> 00:35:35,068 -and you captured it on video? -Yep. 812 00:35:35,172 --> 00:35:37,689 It-It's really interesting. 813 00:35:37,793 --> 00:35:39,448 BRANDON: How many times 814 00:35:39,551 --> 00:35:41,379 have we had UFO events 815 00:35:41,482 --> 00:35:43,448 occur in broad daylight above the ranch? 816 00:35:45,172 --> 00:35:47,931 And the interesting thing is 817 00:35:48,034 --> 00:35:50,206 their OSIRIS vehicle-- they would get it set up. 818 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:52,103 Everything looks good. We're ready to go. 819 00:35:52,206 --> 00:35:53,862 "All right, well, we're good over here at the triangle. 820 00:35:53,965 --> 00:35:57,413 We're about to launch the rocket in five, four, three..." 821 00:35:57,517 --> 00:36:00,000 The OSIRIS system would go out. Then we'd get ready 822 00:36:00,103 --> 00:36:02,310 to do the next launch. Same thing happened. 823 00:36:02,413 --> 00:36:04,724 It's like somebody just pulled the entire plug, 824 00:36:04,827 --> 00:36:06,379 and all the power to the truck just went out. 825 00:36:06,482 --> 00:36:07,551 Wow. 826 00:36:07,655 --> 00:36:08,896 TRAVIS: I... 827 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,620 It makes no sense. It's like 828 00:36:10,724 --> 00:36:11,689 when we were launching the rocket 829 00:36:11,793 --> 00:36:13,793 up through that anomalous spot in the triangle 830 00:36:13,896 --> 00:36:16,551 that something didn't want that truck to gather data. 831 00:36:16,655 --> 00:36:19,000 BRYANT: And, Brandon, there was actually 832 00:36:19,103 --> 00:36:22,034 a-a disturbing incident that happened when they were here. 833 00:36:22,137 --> 00:36:25,586 One of the former military guys, 834 00:36:25,689 --> 00:36:27,275 he was sitting right where you're sitting 835 00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:31,965 and all of the sudden just had a big medical episode. 836 00:36:32,068 --> 00:36:33,517 Really? 837 00:36:36,586 --> 00:36:37,689 That seems insidious. 838 00:36:37,793 --> 00:36:39,896 When I bought the ranch, 839 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,655 I'd heard reports 840 00:36:41,758 --> 00:36:45,655 that former military personnel visiting the ranch 841 00:36:45,758 --> 00:36:48,758 had such disturbing experiences 842 00:36:48,862 --> 00:36:51,482 that they refused to ever come back. 843 00:36:51,586 --> 00:36:54,482 Which would imply that it's an outside energy. 844 00:36:54,586 --> 00:36:57,034 -Yeah. -BRANDON: Yeah. The fact that something 845 00:36:57,137 --> 00:36:58,965 would be interfering 846 00:36:59,068 --> 00:37:02,551 with a guest here at Skinwalker Ranch 847 00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:05,689 that is part of the expanded investigation 848 00:37:05,793 --> 00:37:08,517 points to, I think, 849 00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:11,103 malevolent intent. 850 00:37:17,965 --> 00:37:19,620 TRAVIS: The question is 851 00:37:19,724 --> 00:37:21,620 is it malicious of humanity's doing? 852 00:37:21,724 --> 00:37:22,793 Or is it malicious of some other doing 853 00:37:22,896 --> 00:37:24,482 that we can't explain? 854 00:37:25,448 --> 00:37:27,448 BRANDON: Can you ascribe these events 855 00:37:27,551 --> 00:37:29,448 including electromagnetic anomalies, 856 00:37:29,551 --> 00:37:31,275 acute medical episodes 857 00:37:31,379 --> 00:37:34,344 correlated with unidentified aerial phenomena 858 00:37:34,448 --> 00:37:37,620 -with mankind, with something that we're aware of? -Not... Cer... 859 00:37:37,724 --> 00:37:40,758 Certainly not all of them, Brandon. 860 00:37:40,862 --> 00:37:42,965 I can't say for sure what we've experienced is being 861 00:37:43,068 --> 00:37:46,137 caused by something man-made, but Brandon has a point. 862 00:37:46,241 --> 00:37:48,448 We're recording more and more evidence 863 00:37:48,551 --> 00:37:51,827 that unnatural events are occurring on Skinwalker Ranch. 864 00:37:51,931 --> 00:37:54,689 We just don't have enough data to make an educated guess 865 00:37:54,793 --> 00:37:57,551 on what they are and why they're happening. 866 00:37:58,551 --> 00:38:02,793 So, why do these events continue to occur above the triangle? 867 00:38:02,896 --> 00:38:05,172 -BRYANT: Hmm. -I-It's really interesting. 868 00:38:05,275 --> 00:38:06,689 ERIK: Why the triangle? Are there 869 00:38:06,793 --> 00:38:09,655 any special physical, uh, properties out there 870 00:38:09,758 --> 00:38:11,517 that we're unaware of? You know, would have to relate 871 00:38:11,620 --> 00:38:12,965 to geology somehow. Or some artifact. 872 00:38:13,068 --> 00:38:14,413 -Right. -TRAVIS: So, 873 00:38:14,517 --> 00:38:16,586 there really is no 874 00:38:16,689 --> 00:38:19,689 logical explanation for it. 875 00:38:19,793 --> 00:38:23,000 Which lends us to-to at least wonder 876 00:38:23,103 --> 00:38:25,206 if there's a wormhole or portal. 877 00:38:26,103 --> 00:38:28,137 TRAVIS: I don't know. Some kind 878 00:38:28,241 --> 00:38:29,862 of science fiction phenomenon happening, 879 00:38:29,965 --> 00:38:31,655 like a black hole or wormhole. 880 00:38:31,758 --> 00:38:34,275 But nobody on this planet has the knowledge 881 00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:36,965 to build something that does all of these phenomena. 882 00:38:37,068 --> 00:38:39,655 And to be able to target specific individuals, 883 00:38:39,758 --> 00:38:41,172 whether it be Thomas Winterton, 884 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:44,482 whether it be this former military, 885 00:38:44,586 --> 00:38:46,000 whether it be Travis. 886 00:38:46,103 --> 00:38:48,482 TRAVIS: Yeah. Let me... Let me tell you, 887 00:38:48,586 --> 00:38:50,344 out of the amount of experiments we've done 888 00:38:50,448 --> 00:38:52,413 and the number of anomalies 889 00:38:52,517 --> 00:38:54,655 that we've measured, seen, captured, 890 00:38:54,758 --> 00:38:58,482 even if we end up explaining 891 00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:00,172 90% of them, 892 00:39:00,275 --> 00:39:04,068 that ten percent is so unexplainable that there's 893 00:39:04,172 --> 00:39:05,896 something to this 894 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,344 that we've got to wrap our minds around. 895 00:39:07,448 --> 00:39:09,241 Hundred percent. 896 00:39:09,344 --> 00:39:10,758 What could we be doing 897 00:39:10,862 --> 00:39:14,068 to explore that area in a more active way? 898 00:39:14,172 --> 00:39:15,241 ERIK: We do have some ideas 899 00:39:15,344 --> 00:39:17,827 about what we could do to explore the space. 900 00:39:17,931 --> 00:39:20,586 You know, volumetric studies that involve going into the air 901 00:39:20,689 --> 00:39:22,896 and taking measurements with our instruments. 902 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,758 BRANDON: Can we-can we move quickly 903 00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:27,275 to start exploring that in light of these events? 904 00:39:27,379 --> 00:39:29,862 -We-We've already... -I don't want to miss a window of time. 905 00:39:29,965 --> 00:39:31,724 Here's the thing I'm-I'm concerned with, 906 00:39:31,827 --> 00:39:34,724 is we're seeing activity on a whole new level. 907 00:39:34,827 --> 00:39:38,103 TRAVIS: Well, I think the right way to go about it, uh, is 908 00:39:38,206 --> 00:39:41,758 we've got to put as many sensors in that area over the ranch 909 00:39:41,862 --> 00:39:44,413 that stay there as long as possible. 910 00:39:44,517 --> 00:39:47,379 Probably something like some small airplane, right? 911 00:39:47,482 --> 00:39:49,758 Well, let's-let's proceed. 912 00:39:49,862 --> 00:39:52,620 Let's try to procure those resources immediately, 913 00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:56,413 especially while we have these events occurring, 914 00:39:56,517 --> 00:39:59,413 and take advantage of this opportunity 915 00:39:59,517 --> 00:40:02,482 to-to explore that region above the triangle 916 00:40:02,586 --> 00:40:05,413 in a more aggressive fashion. 917 00:40:05,517 --> 00:40:07,413 -Very good. Well, thank you for all of your help. -TRAVIS: All right. 918 00:40:07,517 --> 00:40:11,172 -Good to see you again, Brandon. -Dr. Taylor. 919 00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:14,379 ERIK: Typically, we apply the tools and methods of science 920 00:40:14,482 --> 00:40:16,034 to test a hypothesis. 921 00:40:16,137 --> 00:40:17,758 But I must say, 922 00:40:17,862 --> 00:40:20,206 very often, the outcome is something 923 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:24,000 completely outside of the scope of our expectations. 924 00:40:24,103 --> 00:40:26,413 We are nowhere near finished 925 00:40:26,517 --> 00:40:28,034 with our investigation of the ranch, 926 00:40:28,137 --> 00:40:29,862 and as mysterious events continue, 927 00:40:29,965 --> 00:40:32,586 so, also, will this investigation. 928 00:40:32,689 --> 00:40:36,000 TRAVIS: There's something special about the triangle, 929 00:40:36,103 --> 00:40:37,827 but what does that mean? 930 00:40:37,931 --> 00:40:40,896 Is that something like a gravitational anomaly? 931 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,758 A gateway? A doorway? A wormhole? 932 00:40:44,862 --> 00:40:46,862 We don't know, but this tells us we've got to do 933 00:40:46,965 --> 00:40:49,724 a lot more detailed experimentation 934 00:40:49,827 --> 00:40:52,862 of that area with more sensors, 935 00:40:52,965 --> 00:40:54,413 and the experiment has got to tell us 936 00:40:54,517 --> 00:40:56,068 what's going on there. 937 00:40:56,172 --> 00:40:59,103 BRANDON: We've seen physical evidence 938 00:40:59,206 --> 00:41:01,620 that what we are dealing with at Skinwalker Ranch 939 00:41:01,724 --> 00:41:03,965 is not to be taken lightly. 940 00:41:04,068 --> 00:41:07,448 It seems like something continues to push back on us 941 00:41:07,551 --> 00:41:09,482 and-and create obstacles. 942 00:41:09,586 --> 00:41:11,482 We are onto something. 943 00:41:11,586 --> 00:41:13,310 This is the time to charge forward 944 00:41:13,413 --> 00:41:14,931 to better understand 945 00:41:15,034 --> 00:41:17,517 the strange activity at Skinwalker Ranch. 946 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,137 We want to get your opinion on this location. 947 00:41:25,241 --> 00:41:29,206 This area is used to keep the evil on that side. 948 00:41:29,310 --> 00:41:33,206 Hey, Travis. I'm seeing the shadow of some other aircraft. 949 00:41:33,310 --> 00:41:37,000 There's nothing within 50 miles of the ranch. 950 00:41:37,103 --> 00:41:39,482 We are not seeing you 951 00:41:39,586 --> 00:41:42,000 -on the ADS-B. -[static crackling] 952 00:41:42,103 --> 00:41:43,620 [staticky]: I don't know what's going on. 953 00:41:43,724 --> 00:41:46,310 BRYANT: Something doesn't want us 954 00:41:46,413 --> 00:41:48,172 to collect data from the triangle. 75339

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