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We've got a Gulfstream GV
doing a survey pattern.
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-BRANDON: We're being monitored.
-And for what purpose?
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We're 1,600 feet
above the ground.
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ERIK:
Bryant and Travis will be
releasing the GPS trackers.
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-THOMAS: It's in the air.
-ERIK: Where'd it go?
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-Where'd it go?
-THOMAS: It disappeared.
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So, we have a region
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in altitude that tells us
there's some kind of phenomenon
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taking place right here
over the triangle.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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-Oh, here they are.
-Yeah.
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TRAVIS: Last week,
we conducted an aerial drop
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of GPS units into
that mile-high zone
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above the triangle area
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on Skinwalker Ranch
where we keep detecting
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these strange energy spikes.
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Holy cow, look at that.
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But something
that we couldn't see
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actually deflected the payloads
away from the zone.
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So we decided to conduct
a new experiment
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to launch rockets up
into that same zone
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just to figure out what could
have caused that to happen.
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And hopefully we can stimulate
new aerial phenomena to appear,
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like we have in the past.
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-Howdy.
-Good to meet you.
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TRAVIS:
To help us do that we invited
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a very specialized team
of researchers out to the ranch
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from an organization
known as UAPx.
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Well, welcome to the Ranch.
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-Thank you.
-Excited to have you.
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Excited to be here.
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It's pretty overwhelming.
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JEREMY: Excited.
A little apprehensive.
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-But, uh, happy to be here.
-BRYANT: Well, rightly so.
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TRAVIS:
Jason Turner, Gary Voorhis
and Jeremy McGowan
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have all not only had
esteemed careers
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in the U.S. military,
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but Jason and Gary were
closely involved in one of
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the biggest documented
UAP events in history.
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The so-called Tic Tac video
that was captured in 2004
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by Navy personnel on the USS
Nimitzand the USS Princeton
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and released to the public
byThe New York Times in 2017.
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JASON:
In 2004,
I was a logistics specialist
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on board the USSPrinceton.
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Well, it started off as just
a regular day. We were...
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everybody was going through
their work-up cycle,
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getting their qualifications,
and there had been talk
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around the ship that-that
something was going on.
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I was in the right place
at the right time
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and happened to be up in SSES,
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which is a Ship's Signal
Exploitation Space.
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When I walked in,
I saw the actual video.
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In the video, the Tic Tac is
what we described and looked at.
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It was an oblong-shaped vehicle.
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White in color. No wings.
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No windows. No propulsion.
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But yet it could move sideways,
up, down, left, right.
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And one of the jets
actually engaged
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to go get a closer look
exactly what it was.
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At that point, the small,
white, Tic Tac-shaped object
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then reacted
to our interrogation
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by starting to fly at our jet.
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I-It scared the heck
out of our pilot,
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but it basically flew circles
around it.
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So, we as humans can travel
from one spot to another,
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but we have to accelerate
to get there
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and then decelerate to stop.
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So, this thing would start.
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It would make its mind up
of how fast it was gonna go.
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There was no acceleration.
It was just one speed
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from start to finish.
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GARY:
You know, I knew innately
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that it wasn't natural
the way that it moved
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or that, you know, it shouldn't
be possible to do that,
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but I didn't know why.
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And then that's-that's
what I spent the next 20 years
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trying to figure out.
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You can have these three seats
here at the end of the table.
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JEREMY:
All right, sounds good.
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We'll get situated.
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The UAPx guys have designed
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specialized technology to track
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and study UAPs,
which we were eager to utilize
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in our rocket experiment.
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But first, we wanted to show
them some of our own UAP footage
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that we've captured here
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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ERIK:
So, we have
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material that I'm anxious
to put in front of you guys
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and see how it compares
with things
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that you've either,
you know, witnessed
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during your UAPx studies
or even before.
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We're trying to figure out
from some things we've seen,
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uh, are these things
actually moving
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through space
from point A to point B,
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or are they
literally vanishing here
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and appearing there?
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Sweet.
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ERIK:
What we're interested
in having you guys look at
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was something spotted in the sky
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during an unexpected
sudden death of a cow.
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-Mm.
-We have the animal
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down here in the last moments
of this cow's life.
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The animal lifts its head up
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just as this dark object
that you see above the tree
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comes into the frame.
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It doesn't fly in.
It just appears there.
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-Crazy.
-TRAVIS: Yep.
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ERIK:
Next frame.
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The object is here.
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Well, the way this video looks
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is basically how I would know
I was looking
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at one of the Tic Tacs.
That's how they move.
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They would just... they would be
from one point to the next
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before you realized they were,
and then they'd just be gone.
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Wow.
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Here's another one.
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It's tempting
to infer a shape here
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that is spherical,
would you say?
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Depends on which way
you're looking at it.
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ERIK:
Mm-hmm. Did the Tic Tacs
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ever appear spherical in the
field of view of the equipment?
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Whenever you'd see it
straight on, yeah.
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-Wow.
-GARY: The videos
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they showed us about the UAP--
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they exhibited
a lot of the very similar
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or even the same characteristics
as the Tic Tac did
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during
the 2004 Nimitzencounter.
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I'll be dead honest with you.
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All of these objects
weren't coming at us.
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They were just doing
whatever they were doing,
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and then they only reacted
to us.
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So, that-that's
an important part,
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'cause a lot of people
always ask, "Well,
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why didn't you have weapons?
Why didn't you fire on them?"
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They were doing
no hostile intentions.
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They weren't lighting us up,
as far as I know.
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Well, it suggests
that somehow it knew intent.
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That's interesting.
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There's a long-standing,
I don't know, hypothesis
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or even mythos about the ranch
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that-that it can sense intent
and react to it.
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And that's what we keep
having described to us,
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and we see odd things happen
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that kind of follows
along that path,
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but we're not ready
to completely...
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You know,
like-like you were saying,
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-not sure what to believe
or accept just yet.
-Yeah.
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Now, the one thing
that you might be interested in
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is talking with other shipmates
from that time.
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Uh, they were-they were
in charge of equipment
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that detects EM,
or electromagnetics,
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uh, RF.
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Uh, you know,
things like that and...
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That is particularly interesting
to us.
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They all have an NDA
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and will not
talk about it at all.
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I mean, not even off the record
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like, you know,
old shipmates would.
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So, they-they pretty much scared
the dickens out of those guys
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-about-about it.
-ERIK: So,
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you know, the UAP report
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that was recently released
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talking about RF,
radio frequency signals.
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This is something that's
especially interesting to us.
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TRAVIS:
Over the last two years,
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we've repeatedly recorded
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these high spikes
of radiofrequency, or RF energy.
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MAN:
We've got liftoff.
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TRAVIS:
Oh, my God. During launch,
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the electromagnetic spectrum
is going crazy,
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guys. I've never seen
anything like it.
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All electronic devices
operate on some RF frequency.
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Radios, GPS, satellites, TV,
e-even microwaves.
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But the one
we consistently see here
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appears at 1.6 gigahertz,
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and no technology
that we know of
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uses that specific frequency.
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It's an anomaly
that's also been recorded
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during other UAP encounters
that were documented
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in the 2021 report
by the federal government
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on UAPs.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.
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What's this right here?
What's this? What's this?
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TRAVIS: We got something!
We got something!
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The UAPTF report mentioned
where they were measuring RF.
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-ERIK: Mm-hmm.
-JEREMY: The problem
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with the UAPTF report is
it doesn't go further than that.
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It was very vague.
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And-and one
of the primary reasons
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that the UAPTF report is vague
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is that report is written
knowing
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that enemies
of the United States
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are going to read it.
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So we're not gonna put
the meat and potatoes
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-in that thing.
-JASON: [groans] I'm hurting.
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I just got a headache, bro.
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My head just started, like...
[imitates explosion]
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-What is it?
-Uh, his head
is starting to hurt.
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-JASON: Like, really bad.
-THOMAS: Like,
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-behind your eyes?
-Yeah.
-TRAVIS: Go turn on
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-the spectrum analyzer, Erik.
-Yeah, we got to get
the spectrum analyzer.
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Holy crap.
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Yeah, bro,
it's, like, hurting really bad.
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-THOMAS: Um, come with me.
-Ever since we started
driving in here.
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Just in case.
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JASON:
[exhales] I'm hydrated,
so I know I'm good, man.
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My freaking head is like...
Oh, my God.
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Here, jump in here real quick.
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Gonna...
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TRAVIS:
Scan the skies.
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Scan the skies.
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JASON:
It kind of just started
out of nowhere.
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-THOMAS: We may have
to get you off the ranch.
-[groans softly]
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-THOMAS: Is it
pretty good pounding?
-JASON: Yeah.
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-I'm hurting.
-THOMAS: Behind your eyes?
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-JASON: Right here.
Like, right...
-THOMAS: Yep.
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TRAVIS: During our meeting
with the team from UAPx,
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out of nowhere,
Jason Turner suddenly had
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a bizarre physical episode
just like Thomas
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and myself and so many others
have experienced
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here on Skinwalker Ranch.
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Look at my hands.
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THOMAS:
Yeah, you're definitely shaking.
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Standing in the dark silo
next to Jason,
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I can't help but flash back
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to the events
that happened in the past.
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-Goodbye.
-Yeah.
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-You okay?
-Mm.
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Hey.
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TRAVIS:
Tom, you all right?
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THOMAS:
My head is-is hurting bad.
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TRAVIS:
He needs to be in the car
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right now on the way
to the emergency room.
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THOMAS:
I can relate, unfortunately.
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Having experienced
something similar,
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obviously, the first item
is to get him to safety
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and see if we can stop
what's happening.
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But I have a lot of worry
in my heart.
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I suffered an injury.
It almost cost me my life.
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I don't want to see
anybody else hurt like that.
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TRAVIS:
They put him in the Faraday cage
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-out there, so... Yeah.
-ERIK: Is he out
in the grain bin?
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-So, hopefully,
he's feeling better.
-ERIK: Good thinking.
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TRAVIS:
There's a metal silo
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outside the command center,
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and it acts like what's called
a Faraday cage,
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meaning that the inside
is shielded
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-from outside energy sources.
-THOMAS: So, he was...
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-He was shaking
pretty violently.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
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I mean, uncontrollably.
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TRAVIS:
What Jason is describing
sounds a lot
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like the effects
of microwave exposure.
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So we decided to check
the spectrum analyzer
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and see
if any strange energy spikes
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suddenly emerged on the ranch.
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Oh, the Geiger counter's
jumped up to 18.
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-It hit a 19. Hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
-ERIK: Look. Look, look,
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-look. Right here.
-It's here.
We got that 1.6 thing.
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-ERIK: Yeah.
-But we're clearly
getting that signal.
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Sure enough, Erik detected
an RF radiation spike
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at 1.6 gigahertz
on the spectrum analyzer.
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In normal cases,
it should be flatline. Zero.
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So something strange
clearly happened on the ranch
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at the exact same time
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that Jason had those pains
in his head.
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-How you feeling, man?
-JASON: Holy crap, bro.
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BRYANT:
If he steps out
and it happens again,
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-I'm sorry, I'm gonna get
you out of here.
-JASON: Nah, I get you.
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-I understand, I understand.
-Okay, I...
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TRAVIS:
You feel like you're
coming-coming down?
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-JASON: No.
-We'll wait.
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TRAVIS:
We were eager
to get our experiment started,
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but Dragon was right that we
needed to give Jason some time.
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Can you get me another water?
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TRAVIS:
We wanted to make sure
he was gonna be all right.
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And, of course,
we wanted answers,
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but people's health
and safety comes first.
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[exhales]
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KANDUS:
I am excited that people are
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starting to be more open
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to wanting to share their story
and put it
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-on record.
-TOM: Kandus and I
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are caretakers
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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Our role is to go off the ranch
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and bring back
information to the team.
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Looks like Jeff's here, waiting
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-for us.
-TOM: All right.
I'm excited to hear
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-his story.
-KANDUS: Me too.
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TOM:
And keep compiling
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this information,
you know, bettering the picture,
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getting a little more focus
on what's truly happening
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here on Skinwalker Ranch.
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-Kaleb? Good.
-How's it going, Jeff?
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-This is Tom and Kandus.
-TOM: Kaleb set up
a meeting with a deputy,
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and he has a few things
to share with us
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that may help us with
the investigation on the ranch.
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Jeff, I figured
that it'd be a good, uh, thing
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to have Tom and Kandus
come out and meet with you
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so you could tell your story
about what happened here.
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Perfect. We can do that.
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Kaleb's told us a little bit
about what happened,
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but we're really interested
in hearing
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your story.
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JEFF:
I get a call last year.
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Approximately 8:00, 8:30.
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A possible drone flying around,
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looking in, uh,
this homeowner's windows.
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KANDUS:
So, how close to her house
did it get?
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Did she say it was
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right up on it?
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She said
it went around her house.
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On multiple different occasions.
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Problem that she had
was it was scaring her.
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She didn't know what it was.
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Her family didn't know
what it was,
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and it kept returning,
and nobody had an answer
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for-for who or what.
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I come up here, I go knock
on the door and I meet her.
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When I come up I see
this big bright light.
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If you see
the second telephone pole,
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if you go above that
about two, three inches--
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abnormally bright light.
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-So it was just bright, no
color, no hint of any color?
-Nope.
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Couldn't be a helicopter.
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-No flashing lights?
-No fla...
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no flashing lights.
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I couldn't see any metal,
any shape.
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After probably eight,
ten minutes,
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it started to elevate,
and it looked like
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it was traveling due west.
And so I jumped in the truck,
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I went straight west
and, uh, followed it.
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Now, as you went down this road,
what hap-what happened next?
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Well, every once in a while,
it looked like it was going
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up in elevation
then coming down in elevation.
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And how high and low would
you say, based on your eye?
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Well, it appeared to be,
I don't know, a couple hundred
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feet off the ground here.
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And towards the end there,
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it was so high up
that I actually had to
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look up through my
windshield to actually see it.
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00:15:18,034 --> 00:15:19,482
That's crazy.
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So, did it disappear
at some point?
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No.
Never lost track of it.
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But I followed it 20, 25 miles
that way.
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Really?
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Until I ran out of road,
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and I just watched it drop
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-over the horizon.
-Wow.
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As he's telling us about
this bright light...
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We've heard this story before.
You know?
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We've-we've seen them
on the ranch.
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Holy [bleep]!
Right there.
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What is that?
What is that?
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We got-we got something,
hold on.
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00:15:44,758 --> 00:15:47,482
-Right there!
-Yeah, I see it.
-Oh, yeah.
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00:15:47,586 --> 00:15:49,758
There's definitely
a connection here.
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00:15:49,862 --> 00:15:52,310
We're gonna take
this back to the ranch,
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do a little more
research on what-what happened
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that night on the ranch,
what we picked up.
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Just can't thank you enough
for bringing this
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-to our attention.
-No problem.
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-All right, we'll see you.
Thanks so much.
-You betcha.
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BRYANT:
So, are you back to feeling
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-good again?
-Yeah. I'm back to a 100% again.
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00:16:15,413 --> 00:16:17,896
That's good.
That's some scary stuff.
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TRAVIS:
About an hour after Jason's
strange headache,
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he was feeling normal again,
379
00:16:22,068 --> 00:16:24,379
so we got back
together to continue the meeting
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and review the plan
for our experiment.
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Two years,
we've shot off rockets,
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in the direction
of the triangle,
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two years we've seen UAPS.
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00:16:31,965 --> 00:16:33,034
You guys
want to shoot some rockets
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off with us,
see what we can find?
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00:16:34,482 --> 00:16:36,862
Oh, yes, for sure.
387
00:16:36,965 --> 00:16:40,206
We're hoping with this
experiment it's just another
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opportunity to do a stimulus,
see if there's an effect.
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00:16:43,862 --> 00:16:46,551
We would hope to see something.
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00:16:46,655 --> 00:16:49,862
Obviously,
the most important, uh,
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thing that we take out
of this exercise are the data.
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So we really need to be
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getting them out
there with their equipment.
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00:16:56,827 --> 00:16:58,206
I'm thinking set them up
somewhere where they can
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get a good view of
the triangle or something.
396
00:16:59,793 --> 00:17:01,586
Sounds like a plan.
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00:17:01,689 --> 00:17:03,275
If you guys don't mind, uh,
they'll take you to show
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00:17:03,379 --> 00:17:05,068
you where to set up
your instruments and stuff,
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00:17:05,172 --> 00:17:06,931
we've got some setting
up to do get the rockets
400
00:17:07,034 --> 00:17:10,551
-ready to go,
and then we'll start.
-Let's go.
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00:17:10,655 --> 00:17:12,620
TRAVIS:
We got a lot to do.
402
00:17:20,344 --> 00:17:24,551
This is called the OSIRIS,
which is the "off-road
403
00:17:24,655 --> 00:17:28,379
scientific investigation
response informatics system."
404
00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:30,965
It is much easier
just to say OSIRIS.
405
00:17:31,068 --> 00:17:32,896
I just started building
a vehicle
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00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,379
that was designed
to physically track UAP to
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00:17:36,482 --> 00:17:39,862
-capture solid actionable data.
-Okay.
408
00:17:39,965 --> 00:17:43,206
Because we've had success in
stimulating UAP to appear above
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the ranch in the past,
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00:17:44,758 --> 00:17:47,137
the plan is
to launch rockets back up
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into the triangle and
utilize Jeremy's OSIRIS vehicle
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to track and identify
anything strange that occurs.
413
00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:57,034
Hopefully, UAPx offers
the best chance yet
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00:17:57,137 --> 00:17:59,137
to really get some answers.
415
00:17:59,241 --> 00:18:01,103
What kind of instruments
and things are in there?
416
00:18:01,206 --> 00:18:04,103
Pop open the back here.
417
00:18:04,206 --> 00:18:05,793
Looks like
you got a steerable camera?
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JEREMY: Yeah.
When an object is detected,
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00:18:08,344 --> 00:18:10,793
it has the ability to
not only digitally but also
420
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physically track the object
as it goes through the sky.
421
00:18:13,724 --> 00:18:16,275
I've got a directional
antenna on a swivel mount
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00:18:16,379 --> 00:18:18,275
that gets mounted on
the hood so when I can see
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the frequency spikes, I can
actually pinpoint the location
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00:18:21,172 --> 00:18:22,862
that the frequencies
are coming in from.
425
00:18:22,965 --> 00:18:24,655
Nice.
426
00:18:24,758 --> 00:18:26,551
And I've got, uh,
multiple cameras.
427
00:18:26,655 --> 00:18:28,172
We've got magnetometers,
gyroscopes.
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00:18:28,275 --> 00:18:29,862
And I've got everything running
429
00:18:29,965 --> 00:18:32,068
with a, uh, a computer
between the seats.
430
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And then, in the very front,
I've got a touch panel.
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TRAVIS:
The OSIRIS is going to be
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so valuable
to our investigation
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because it has advanced
aerial detection capabilities.
434
00:18:41,896 --> 00:18:44,758
It uses sophisticated
360-degree cameras
435
00:18:44,862 --> 00:18:46,758
that continually scan the skies,
436
00:18:46,862 --> 00:18:48,413
looking for anything anomalous
437
00:18:48,517 --> 00:18:50,931
beyond conventional aircraft,
like UAPs.
438
00:18:51,034 --> 00:18:53,862
So, Kaleb, uh,
what I'd like you to do, then,
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00:18:53,965 --> 00:18:57,103
-is take them out
into the south field, here.
-Uh-huh.
440
00:18:57,206 --> 00:18:58,965
Get them in a spot
that has a good field of view.
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00:18:59,068 --> 00:19:00,620
You know where we've
seen the things. Get them where
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00:19:00,724 --> 00:19:02,103
-they can see that good.
-Okay.
443
00:19:02,206 --> 00:19:03,655
Uh, you guys are going
to run,
444
00:19:03,758 --> 00:19:05,862
-chase the rockets for us?
-Yes, we are.
445
00:19:05,965 --> 00:19:07,241
You all got a walkie, right?
Everybody's gonna have walkies.
446
00:19:07,344 --> 00:19:10,206
-We do. Yeah, we do.
-Uh, so Gary,
you're going with us.
447
00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:12,379
-Yep.
-All right, well, let's do it.
Let's load everything UP
448
00:19:12,482 --> 00:19:13,931
and let's get going.
449
00:19:18,620 --> 00:19:21,724
BRYANT:
Having the UAPX guys
out here with their OSIRIS
450
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vehicle, with all their
monitoring, we can take a look
451
00:19:23,931 --> 00:19:26,103
at what's going on
and maybe monitor
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if there's any more
strangeness.
453
00:19:27,827 --> 00:19:29,827
And we've got this new asset
in the OSIRIS
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that has all sorts
of instrumentation
455
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,310
that should help us out a lot.
456
00:19:34,413 --> 00:19:36,344
This is good.
457
00:19:36,448 --> 00:19:37,620
All right, let's just
start getting all this
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00:19:37,724 --> 00:19:41,137
stuff out. I think the launchpad
should be about right there.
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00:19:41,241 --> 00:19:42,517
TRAVIS:
To have these military experts
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helping our investigation
461
00:19:44,413 --> 00:19:46,793
really drove home the fact
that what we're doing
462
00:19:46,896 --> 00:19:49,034
here at Skinwalker Ranch
could have
463
00:19:49,137 --> 00:19:53,000
huge implications for
the entire world regarding UAPs.
464
00:19:53,103 --> 00:19:57,241
Plug this one into the, uh,
MSDAU on the other side.
465
00:19:57,344 --> 00:19:58,827
The one on the back side, there.
466
00:19:58,931 --> 00:20:00,724
Thank you.
We need to get this on there.
467
00:20:00,827 --> 00:20:03,379
-What, are we putting,
smoke on it?
-You're damn right.
468
00:20:03,482 --> 00:20:05,827
TRAVIS:
We attached a smoke bomb
to the first rocket
469
00:20:05,931 --> 00:20:07,827
to see if
the trail it left behind
470
00:20:07,931 --> 00:20:10,034
would reveal any deviations
471
00:20:10,137 --> 00:20:13,103
during its ascent, and if it
did, then that could help us
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00:20:13,206 --> 00:20:15,482
further pinpoint
the anomaly above the triangle.
473
00:20:15,586 --> 00:20:17,482
Hey, Jason,
you want to hit that inverter?
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00:20:17,586 --> 00:20:19,620
I got you. It's on.
475
00:20:19,724 --> 00:20:21,172
KALEB:
You guys have your own
spectrum analyzer
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00:20:21,275 --> 00:20:22,620
and all that, right?
477
00:20:22,724 --> 00:20:24,655
Yes. Yes, we do.
478
00:20:24,758 --> 00:20:26,482
Hey, Erik, we're ready to load
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00:20:26,586 --> 00:20:29,000
payload A into the rocket.
480
00:20:29,103 --> 00:20:30,655
Are you ready for us
to pull the tab?
481
00:20:30,758 --> 00:20:33,724
That's affirmative. Go ahead.
482
00:20:33,827 --> 00:20:35,689
We have a checklist
of necessary items
483
00:20:35,793 --> 00:20:37,862
that we go through
before each rocket launch.
484
00:20:37,965 --> 00:20:40,931
We load the payload after making
sure that it's functioning
485
00:20:41,034 --> 00:20:43,655
with our instruments on board,
we check to make sure
486
00:20:43,758 --> 00:20:46,344
that our igniters
are properly positioned.
487
00:20:46,448 --> 00:20:49,344
All right, Jason,
everything is running right now.
488
00:20:49,448 --> 00:20:51,758
-All right, everything's
running. We're good.
-Roger that.
489
00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:56,000
Having gone
through our checklist
490
00:20:56,103 --> 00:20:57,827
we launched our first rocket.
491
00:20:57,931 --> 00:21:01,275
All right, here we go.
Rocket is going hot.
492
00:21:03,793 --> 00:21:05,000
Hot.
493
00:21:08,344 --> 00:21:10,551
Five, four, three,
494
00:21:10,655 --> 00:21:13,517
two, one.
495
00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:14,827
You got to be kidding me.
496
00:21:16,793 --> 00:21:18,724
-Oh, [bleep].
-What?
497
00:21:18,827 --> 00:21:21,000
Everything just went offline.
498
00:21:21,103 --> 00:21:23,517
-Everything?
-Computers shut down.
499
00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:25,448
-Everything went offline.
-Oh, geez.
500
00:21:25,551 --> 00:21:28,103
-Pop, come on, pop. Pop!
-Come on, go, go, go, go.
501
00:21:30,034 --> 00:21:33,931
Be advised, all of OSIRIS'
equipment just died.
502
00:21:35,344 --> 00:21:37,724
OSIRIS is dead.
Everything went down.
503
00:21:37,827 --> 00:21:38,827
No kidding?
504
00:21:38,931 --> 00:21:40,206
The inverter apparently just
505
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:42,793
went all nines
across its display screen.
506
00:21:44,172 --> 00:21:46,310
JEREMY:
My equipment's not working.
I've worked out
507
00:21:46,413 --> 00:21:47,551
all the bugs that I could have
508
00:21:47,655 --> 00:21:50,551
possibly worked out
in the OSIRIS. This doesn't
509
00:21:50,655 --> 00:21:52,310
make any sense to me.
510
00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:54,551
-Something's nukin' it.
-GARY: Yeah.
511
00:21:54,655 --> 00:21:55,827
Is it coming back up?
512
00:21:55,931 --> 00:21:57,103
Trying.
513
00:21:57,206 --> 00:21:58,586
We're trying.
514
00:21:58,689 --> 00:22:00,551
THOMAS: Here we are, bringing on
515
00:22:00,655 --> 00:22:04,103
this sophisticated
monitoring equipment,
516
00:22:04,206 --> 00:22:07,931
and right before we're
to launch, it goes down.
517
00:22:08,034 --> 00:22:10,241
As sophisticated
as their equipment is,
518
00:22:10,344 --> 00:22:12,137
it's no match
for whatever it is that's
519
00:22:12,241 --> 00:22:14,241
happening here
on Skinwalker Ranch.
520
00:22:14,344 --> 00:22:17,793
All right, we're recording.
We're running.
521
00:22:17,896 --> 00:22:19,137
Hey, Thomas,
522
00:22:19,241 --> 00:22:21,379
OSIRIS is back up and running.
523
00:22:22,379 --> 00:22:24,068
We need to get
this rocket in the air.
524
00:22:24,172 --> 00:22:25,517
All right, we're gonna
go ahead and launch rocket.
525
00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:28,931
TRAVIS:
You get right down, you tape
that thing together good.
526
00:22:29,034 --> 00:22:30,482
THOMAS:
Hey, guys, we are
getting ready to launch
527
00:22:30,586 --> 00:22:31,965
the second package.
528
00:22:32,068 --> 00:22:35,172
TRAVIS:
Right now, I think we're good.
529
00:22:35,275 --> 00:22:37,103
All right, let's
tilt her back up now.
530
00:22:37,206 --> 00:22:40,517
Shoot it mostly straight up.
So, about...
531
00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:42,586
-All right.
-Launch will be
532
00:22:42,689 --> 00:22:43,620
in 30 seconds.
533
00:22:43,724 --> 00:22:46,758
-All right, I'm about to go hot.
-All right.
534
00:22:46,862 --> 00:22:48,000
T-minus 20.
535
00:22:53,413 --> 00:22:55,965
T-minus ten.
536
00:22:56,068 --> 00:22:56,793
All right, here we go.
Here we go.
537
00:22:56,896 --> 00:22:59,137
Everybody back.
Safe distances.
538
00:22:59,241 --> 00:23:01,034
It's all you, Thomas.
539
00:23:01,137 --> 00:23:03,034
Four, three,
540
00:23:03,137 --> 00:23:04,793
-two, one.
-Is it doing it again?
-[beep]
541
00:23:06,655 --> 00:23:08,724
I'm not getting
power to the computer.
542
00:23:10,137 --> 00:23:11,551
Oh, that's a good launch.
543
00:23:11,655 --> 00:23:13,655
-Oh, yeah, good launch.
-Much better.
544
00:23:13,758 --> 00:23:15,034
Come on, chute.
545
00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:18,034
Where's the chute?
546
00:23:18,137 --> 00:23:19,965
-There we go! We got chute!
-THOMAS: We got chute.
547
00:23:20,068 --> 00:23:22,896
Nice! Good chute.
548
00:23:24,413 --> 00:23:26,000
OSIRIS just went down
the moment you said
549
00:23:26,103 --> 00:23:28,689
that you were gonna
launch rocket number two.
550
00:23:28,793 --> 00:23:30,448
Hey, Travis.
551
00:23:31,965 --> 00:23:32,965
OSIRIS just went down again.
552
00:23:33,068 --> 00:23:36,724
TRAVIS: Are you kidding me?
That's crazy.
553
00:23:43,896 --> 00:23:45,620
JASON: See this whole thing?
Look at this.
554
00:23:45,724 --> 00:23:47,620
-JEREMY: I know.
-JASON: It keeps shutting off.
555
00:23:47,724 --> 00:23:50,413
JEREMY:
For some reason, it's getting
a bad signal from the inverter.
556
00:23:50,517 --> 00:23:51,793
Yeah, look-- all nines.
557
00:23:51,896 --> 00:23:55,758
I don't quite understand that.
I don't understand that at all.
558
00:23:55,862 --> 00:23:59,275
The OSIRIS incorporates
a software control system
559
00:23:59,379 --> 00:24:02,551
which uses camera analytics
and object detection
560
00:24:02,655 --> 00:24:04,344
with AI and machine learning.
561
00:24:04,448 --> 00:24:07,482
I ran baselines on
the spectrum analyzers.
562
00:24:07,586 --> 00:24:10,517
Uh, the cameras were tested.
And my equipment's not working.
563
00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:13,482
It is... "Disappointing"
is an understatement.
564
00:24:13,586 --> 00:24:15,965
All right, I've got one
camera actively recording.
565
00:24:16,068 --> 00:24:17,551
Waiting on the other two.
566
00:24:17,655 --> 00:24:19,689
TRAVIS: With each launch so far
567
00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:22,517
the OSIRIS vehicle
turns itself off.
568
00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:23,758
All the equipment stops working.
569
00:24:23,862 --> 00:24:25,862
How is that even possible?
570
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,482
All cameras recording.
We're up and running.
571
00:24:28,586 --> 00:24:30,000
Copy that.
572
00:24:30,103 --> 00:24:32,655
We're going to
launch a rocket right now.
573
00:24:32,758 --> 00:24:34,827
Five, four,
574
00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:36,482
-I went down again.
-three, two,
575
00:24:36,586 --> 00:24:38,724
-one, ignition.
-JEREMY: What the hell?
576
00:24:41,827 --> 00:24:45,344
So, one time is an accident.
577
00:24:45,448 --> 00:24:48,758
Two times is a coincidence.
I've got nothing. I...
578
00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:52,862
No reasonable explanation
that I have can explain this.
579
00:24:52,965 --> 00:24:54,862
Yep, yep, yeah, yeah.
580
00:24:54,965 --> 00:24:56,655
TRAVIS:
That's coming down on us.
That's gonna come right
581
00:24:56,758 --> 00:24:57,862
-on top of us.
-Just about.
582
00:24:57,965 --> 00:24:59,827
-Hey, look! UAP, right there!
-BRYANT: Yep.
583
00:24:59,931 --> 00:25:02,724
-I see it.
-BRYANT: Yep, there it is.
You got one.
584
00:25:02,827 --> 00:25:05,172
Yup, there it is,
right there, right there.
585
00:25:05,275 --> 00:25:06,551
Oh, yeah.
586
00:25:06,655 --> 00:25:10,344
This is the first time I've seen
anything like this since 2004.
587
00:25:10,448 --> 00:25:14,344
In other investigations,
we saw the phenomena in data.
588
00:25:14,448 --> 00:25:16,482
This one we could actually
see with the naked eye.
589
00:25:16,586 --> 00:25:19,241
Right there, right there!
It's-it's brilliantly bright,
590
00:25:19,344 --> 00:25:20,931
too. Somebody get on with Erik.
See if he's getting anything
591
00:25:21,034 --> 00:25:24,241
-on the spectrum analyzer.
-THOMAS: Erik, do you, uh...
We've got a UAP
592
00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:25,689
up in the sky right now.
593
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:30,655
Look in the sky, y'all!
594
00:25:31,689 --> 00:25:34,241
Let 'em-let 'em know
I'm down again.
595
00:25:34,344 --> 00:25:36,103
Did y'all see that?
596
00:25:37,344 --> 00:25:39,586
Bright boxes, like we saw
last time. See, right there.
597
00:25:39,689 --> 00:25:40,758
Got to be [bleep] me.
598
00:25:40,862 --> 00:25:43,413
This is the first time
since I saw the Tic Tac
599
00:25:43,517 --> 00:25:46,862
in 2004 that I actually
saw something in person.
600
00:25:46,965 --> 00:25:49,241
Literally, a UAP
just sitting there.
601
00:25:49,344 --> 00:25:52,241
It's a 100% real,
and it's honestly amazing
602
00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:54,931
to be out here and
actually see something.
603
00:25:55,034 --> 00:25:56,724
-TRAVIS: Come over here!
-GARY: Yeah, it's behind
the clouds now.
604
00:25:56,827 --> 00:25:58,482
Crap. That thing is bright.
605
00:25:58,586 --> 00:26:00,137
-Are they always that bright?
-And it's gone.
606
00:26:00,241 --> 00:26:03,793
GARY:
I literally see this object,
607
00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:05,413
and then it just disappeared.
608
00:26:05,517 --> 00:26:07,482
I mean, literally
just disappeared. Gone.
609
00:26:07,586 --> 00:26:11,482
Very similar or even
the same characteristics
610
00:26:11,586 --> 00:26:15,137
as the Tic Tac did during
the 2004Nimitz encounter.
611
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:16,310
KALEB:
Have I said, uh,
612
00:26:16,413 --> 00:26:19,310
-"Welcome to
Skinwalker Ranch" yet?
-Hoorah.
613
00:26:19,413 --> 00:26:21,241
JASON:
What would be causing that?
614
00:26:21,344 --> 00:26:24,655
-I don't know.
-This is crazy right here, bro.
615
00:26:24,758 --> 00:26:26,551
Yeah, I'm gonna
have to jury-rig it.
616
00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:37,655
-Rocket is hot!
-JEREMY: I lost
617
00:26:37,758 --> 00:26:39,310
total functionality.
618
00:26:39,413 --> 00:26:42,482
It was just fine
a couple minutes ago.
619
00:26:42,586 --> 00:26:44,758
TRAVIS:
It was just bizarre
and baffling
620
00:26:44,862 --> 00:26:46,655
that OSIRIS kept
shutting down
621
00:26:46,758 --> 00:26:49,068
and was unable to collect
any data.
622
00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:51,000
But then again, the timing--
623
00:26:51,103 --> 00:26:53,310
right before
each rocket launch--
624
00:26:53,413 --> 00:26:57,827
may also be good data in itself.
We can't prove it yet,
625
00:26:57,931 --> 00:26:59,827
but it was like
something was actively
626
00:26:59,931 --> 00:27:03,862
intervening to stop it from
working just before each launch.
627
00:27:03,965 --> 00:27:07,068
Four, three, two...
628
00:27:09,482 --> 00:27:11,689
TRAVIS:
We still kept
launching rockets
629
00:27:11,793 --> 00:27:13,275
to see if any
more UAPs would appear.
630
00:27:13,379 --> 00:27:14,344
Good chute.
631
00:27:14,448 --> 00:27:15,724
Five, four...
632
00:27:15,827 --> 00:27:19,068
Well, the spectrum analyzer
is starting to go out again.
633
00:27:19,172 --> 00:27:20,793
It's right before
they do another rocket launch.
634
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,206
TRAVIS:
Kill the lights,
we're gonna sit and watch
635
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:25,551
the skies for a little bit.
636
00:27:25,655 --> 00:27:27,896
After our rockets
were launched,
637
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,034
we waited for almost an hour
and didn't see anything
638
00:27:31,137 --> 00:27:34,896
else in the sky,
and OSIRIS continued to fail.
639
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,896
Things didn't go the way
we had planned with the data
640
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,862
collection, and that is
unfortunately becoming common
641
00:27:40,965 --> 00:27:42,931
during experiments
here on Skinwalker Ranch.
642
00:27:43,034 --> 00:27:47,517
Well, um... we've-we've
done a-a lot.
643
00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,206
We've launch eight rockets
644
00:27:49,310 --> 00:27:51,379
and Erik's got more data
than he can
645
00:27:51,482 --> 00:27:52,551
deal with right now, I'm sure,
646
00:27:52,655 --> 00:27:56,068
So, uh, I appreciate it,
and I say, uh, with that,
647
00:27:56,172 --> 00:27:57,448
let's call it a night.
648
00:27:57,551 --> 00:27:58,413
But, you know,
649
00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:01,655
it was incredible
to see and document
650
00:28:01,758 --> 00:28:03,620
UAPs, especially with this team,
651
00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:05,758
given their past experiences.
652
00:28:05,862 --> 00:28:07,758
I have a suspicion that, uh,
653
00:28:07,862 --> 00:28:09,931
all this UAP stuff,
654
00:28:10,034 --> 00:28:11,241
whether it's here or elsewhere--
655
00:28:11,344 --> 00:28:13,413
I think it's connected.
656
00:28:25,206 --> 00:28:27,241
-[vehicle doors close]
-JIM: Good to see you guys.
657
00:28:27,344 --> 00:28:28,758
-KANDUS: Always.
-JIM: Got a good friend here
and a neighbor
658
00:28:28,862 --> 00:28:30,275
-of ours, this is Corey.
-Oh.
659
00:28:30,379 --> 00:28:31,827
-Hello.
-All right.
660
00:28:31,931 --> 00:28:34,172
-Hi, Corey, I'm Tom.
And this is Kandus.
-Hi.
661
00:28:34,275 --> 00:28:37,448
TOM: Deputy Kearney gave us
some fascinating information,
662
00:28:37,551 --> 00:28:40,448
and we're taking it
very seriously
663
00:28:40,551 --> 00:28:42,448
during this research process.
664
00:28:42,551 --> 00:28:45,931
We have to keep our minds
open and explore every option.
665
00:28:46,034 --> 00:28:47,758
This is the first time
that Corey has
666
00:28:47,862 --> 00:28:49,448
-ventured into the ranch.
-Yeah.
667
00:28:49,551 --> 00:28:52,793
-KANDUS: Oh, really?
-TOM: Today, Jim is bringing in
668
00:28:52,896 --> 00:28:55,965
Corey Serawop, who lives
just down the road from here,
669
00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:58,620
to speak with us about
a strange event that
670
00:28:58,724 --> 00:29:02,241
happened to him. Something
he saw with his own eyes.
671
00:29:02,344 --> 00:29:03,862
-If we could, maybe
we can walk around the back.
-KANDUS: Yeah.
672
00:29:03,965 --> 00:29:04,827
-Let's go on back and sit down.
-TOM: Yeah, we got
673
00:29:04,931 --> 00:29:06,000
-a place to sit.
-That-that'd be great.
674
00:29:06,103 --> 00:29:07,275
KANDUS:
Corey is a local
675
00:29:07,379 --> 00:29:10,827
Ute Native American,
and has some stories to share.
676
00:29:10,931 --> 00:29:14,172
His ancestors go back
677
00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:17,000
thousands of years in this area.
678
00:29:17,103 --> 00:29:19,655
What are some of the oral
traditions that have
679
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,137
been passed down to you about
680
00:29:22,241 --> 00:29:24,172
maybe Skinwalker Ranch,
681
00:29:24,275 --> 00:29:27,310
and skinwalkers, particularly?
682
00:29:27,413 --> 00:29:32,000
Hmm. What I was told
is that the land here has
683
00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:35,758
been cursed because
there was a battle that was
684
00:29:35,862 --> 00:29:38,206
fought between
the Navajos and the Ute.
685
00:29:39,793 --> 00:29:42,344
TRAVIS:
The legend of the malevolent
shape-shifting entity
686
00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:46,000
known as the skinwalker
started from a reported curse
687
00:29:46,103 --> 00:29:48,758
that the indigenous Navajo
people in this area
688
00:29:48,862 --> 00:29:52,172
put on the Ute people
during a bitter conflict
689
00:29:52,275 --> 00:29:53,793
back in the 19th century.
690
00:29:53,896 --> 00:29:56,172
But what's really interesting
is that both nations
691
00:29:56,275 --> 00:29:59,344
have reported
bizarre aerial phenomena,
692
00:29:59,448 --> 00:30:01,965
potentially dating
back thousands of years.
693
00:30:02,862 --> 00:30:07,137
So, are you from
this area, directly?
694
00:30:07,241 --> 00:30:09,448
-Yes, I am.
I grew up in Randlett, and
-KANDUS: Okay. Okay.
695
00:30:09,551 --> 00:30:13,275
it's just, probably, like, maybe
five miles down the road, here.
696
00:30:13,379 --> 00:30:14,689
And I was working at
the treatment center...
697
00:30:14,793 --> 00:30:17,344
-And that is on tribal land?
-COREY: That is on tribal land.
698
00:30:17,448 --> 00:30:19,172
You know, we did
the graveyard shift.
699
00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:23,517
It was a Sunday, I remember
that. 6:00 in the morning.
700
00:30:23,620 --> 00:30:27,689
Um, it was dark, quiet. It was
foggy outside, it was weird.
701
00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:31,620
And the TV did this weird
pixilation thing,
702
00:30:31,724 --> 00:30:33,275
and the power went out.
703
00:30:33,379 --> 00:30:36,517
So I went up, got up to get
the flashlight,
704
00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:39,931
and there's lights coming from
outside, above the building.
705
00:30:40,034 --> 00:30:41,551
-TOM: Really?
-What?
706
00:30:41,655 --> 00:30:44,068
COREY:
And it was like...
seeing this big old light
707
00:30:44,172 --> 00:30:45,172
above our building.
708
00:30:45,275 --> 00:30:47,862
It was pretty fascinating,
'cause it was red,
709
00:30:47,965 --> 00:30:51,137
blue and green,
hovering above the building.
710
00:30:53,068 --> 00:30:55,344
-I was scared.
-Yeah, sure, sure.
711
00:30:55,448 --> 00:30:57,172
-How big was this?
-Uh, it was probably
712
00:30:57,275 --> 00:30:58,517
about big as a small plane.
713
00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:00,689
TOM:
Wow, that's amazing.
714
00:31:00,793 --> 00:31:03,413
How high was it in the air?
What would be your guess?
715
00:31:03,517 --> 00:31:05,896
Maybe about 25 feet.
716
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,413
-Okay.
-It's close.
-It's...
717
00:31:07,517 --> 00:31:09,517
-It was over the roof.
-COREY: Yeah, it was
just over the roof,
718
00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:11,206
hovering over the roof,
719
00:31:11,310 --> 00:31:13,551
then the lights coming
from underneath it.
720
00:31:13,655 --> 00:31:16,241
And in my mind I'm like,
"Man, that's a UFO."
721
00:31:23,827 --> 00:31:25,931
It was just over the roof,
hovering over the roof.
722
00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:28,241
Then the lights
coming from underneath it.
723
00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:31,310
And in my mind I'm like,
"Man, that's a UFO," you know?
724
00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:35,034
And then how long was it there?
725
00:31:35,137 --> 00:31:38,068
I'd say probably
close to maybe 30 minutes
726
00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:39,965
-to 40 minutes.
-My gosh, that's just crazy.
727
00:31:40,068 --> 00:31:43,310
As quickly as it lit up,
it went black.
728
00:31:43,413 --> 00:31:45,586
-Like, it turned off the lights.
-TOM: Did you see it again?
729
00:31:45,689 --> 00:31:47,655
-Did you see...
-No, we didn't see it again.
730
00:31:47,758 --> 00:31:49,000
-It was just gone?
-It was just gone.
731
00:31:49,103 --> 00:31:52,310
-Was there any sound
involved with this?
-COREY: No.
732
00:31:52,413 --> 00:31:55,275
That was the crazy thing.
The ship itself-- the UFO--
733
00:31:55,379 --> 00:31:56,931
did not make any noise.
734
00:31:57,034 --> 00:31:59,137
There was no sound at all.
735
00:31:59,241 --> 00:32:03,379
Seeing what I saw
was a really big experience.
736
00:32:03,482 --> 00:32:05,379
KANDUS: It's crazy,
'cause some of the things
737
00:32:05,482 --> 00:32:08,551
Corey was telling us
are identical, almost,
738
00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:11,034
to what officer Kearney
was telling us.
739
00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:13,206
There's a pattern going on here.
740
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:16,241
What would be the advice
of the elders?
741
00:32:16,344 --> 00:32:19,206
Do they basically advise you
after you experience
742
00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:21,206
something as profound as that?
743
00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:23,724
Some elders say,
"Don't say anything.
744
00:32:23,827 --> 00:32:27,448
-Don't mention it.
Don't talk about it."
-Yeah, I know.
745
00:32:27,551 --> 00:32:32,310
Why do the elders ask you not
to talk about things like this?
746
00:32:32,413 --> 00:32:37,448
I think in our tradition,
if you see something like a UFO,
747
00:32:37,551 --> 00:32:39,482
skinwalker, you know,
something like that,
748
00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:41,034
you don't talk about it
749
00:32:41,137 --> 00:32:43,655
because you don't want
to have that negativeness
750
00:32:43,758 --> 00:32:47,206
come back from that to you,
your family.
751
00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:51,551
The history, the ethnography
of-of these legends
752
00:32:51,655 --> 00:32:54,724
sometimes take picture form,
like petroglyphs
753
00:32:54,827 --> 00:32:56,724
or pictographs.
Have you ever seen anything?
754
00:32:56,827 --> 00:32:58,000
You should check out
McConkie Ranch.
755
00:32:58,103 --> 00:33:02,068
You see ones that look like
the humans, like regular,
756
00:33:02,172 --> 00:33:04,551
you know, indigenous humans,
and then the other ones
757
00:33:04,655 --> 00:33:08,896
that look like something,
maybe an alien type.
758
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,448
TOM:
We're definitely gonna
go check out McConkie Ranch.
759
00:33:11,551 --> 00:33:14,724
I think it would be wise
for us to get, uh,
760
00:33:14,827 --> 00:33:18,965
somebody that can help us
interpret these petroglyphs, um,
761
00:33:19,068 --> 00:33:20,620
give us another point of view.
762
00:33:20,724 --> 00:33:23,448
Can't wait to get up
there and check it out.
763
00:33:23,551 --> 00:33:26,931
Well, Corey,
thank you so much for coming
764
00:33:27,034 --> 00:33:28,793
on the ranch,
sharing your story.
765
00:33:28,896 --> 00:33:30,758
I appreciate you guys
having me out here.
766
00:33:30,862 --> 00:33:32,758
TOM:
With all these stories,
767
00:33:32,862 --> 00:33:35,793
very similar stories
being told to us,
768
00:33:35,896 --> 00:33:37,793
it makes you wonder,
wh... you know,
769
00:33:37,896 --> 00:33:40,758
when does that change from,
you know,
770
00:33:40,862 --> 00:33:44,931
mythology, lore, to a fact?
771
00:33:45,034 --> 00:33:47,724
-JIM: Thank you.
-Thanks for taking all
this time.
772
00:33:47,827 --> 00:33:50,000
-Yeah, no problem.
-Yeah. It's been fun.
773
00:34:00,517 --> 00:34:02,517
-THOMAS: There they are.
-Hey, guys.
774
00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:03,517
-How's it going?
-Hey. Brandon.
775
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:04,655
-Good to see you guys.
-Hey, Brandon.
776
00:34:04,758 --> 00:34:05,827
-Good to see you.
-Good to be back.
777
00:34:05,931 --> 00:34:08,137
TRAVIS:
After everything our team
778
00:34:08,241 --> 00:34:09,689
heard this week and also
779
00:34:09,793 --> 00:34:12,034
experienced with
the representatives from UAPx,
780
00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:14,275
we really needed to meet
with Brandon and figure out
781
00:34:14,379 --> 00:34:17,689
what our next move would be
for this investigation.
782
00:34:17,793 --> 00:34:19,931
Well, tell me
what's been going on.
783
00:34:20,034 --> 00:34:22,793
We have some things to share
with you about some activities
784
00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:26,000
that we conducted. In
particular, when we had the guys
785
00:34:26,103 --> 00:34:29,000
from UAPx join us here
on the ranch.
786
00:34:29,103 --> 00:34:30,689
We had some
interesting things happen
787
00:34:30,793 --> 00:34:33,137
with equipment.
We had some things seen
788
00:34:33,241 --> 00:34:35,172
in the sky over the ranch.
789
00:34:35,275 --> 00:34:37,000
Really?
790
00:34:37,103 --> 00:34:39,172
Well, I would love
to see this footage.
791
00:34:39,275 --> 00:34:40,482
Okay, well, I have it queued up.
792
00:34:43,275 --> 00:34:44,862
TRAVIS:
So, this is out at the triangle,
793
00:34:44,965 --> 00:34:46,000
-looking to the west.
-There it is. You see it.
794
00:34:46,103 --> 00:34:47,344
You see it appear in the sky...
795
00:34:48,413 --> 00:34:50,827
-...as a bright, shiny sphere.
-BRYANT: You see that, Brandon?
796
00:34:50,931 --> 00:34:53,172
BRANDON:
Yeah.
797
00:34:53,275 --> 00:34:55,827
So, Brandon,
you can see it right here.
798
00:34:55,931 --> 00:34:57,000
-Right.
-BRYANT: Right? And, so,
799
00:34:57,103 --> 00:34:59,689
we pointed that out,
800
00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:02,655
and the gentleman from UAPx
looked up at it
801
00:35:02,758 --> 00:35:04,586
and was startled
802
00:35:04,689 --> 00:35:08,241
and said,
"That looks just like what I saw
803
00:35:08,344 --> 00:35:10,413
during the Tic Tac."
804
00:35:10,517 --> 00:35:14,310
And he's like, "I've never
seen that since then."
805
00:35:19,172 --> 00:35:21,896
So, former military
806
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,758
who have gone on record before
807
00:35:23,862 --> 00:35:25,896
relative to witnessing
808
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,517
unidentified aerial phenomena,
809
00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:29,551
here on Skinwalker Ranch,
810
00:35:29,655 --> 00:35:33,413
-witnessed similar phenomena
-TRAVIS: He-he said...
811
00:35:33,517 --> 00:35:35,068
-and you captured it on video?
-Yep.
812
00:35:35,172 --> 00:35:37,689
It-It's really interesting.
813
00:35:37,793 --> 00:35:39,448
BRANDON:
How many times
814
00:35:39,551 --> 00:35:41,379
have we had UFO events
815
00:35:41,482 --> 00:35:43,448
occur in broad daylight
above the ranch?
816
00:35:45,172 --> 00:35:47,931
And the interesting thing is
817
00:35:48,034 --> 00:35:50,206
their OSIRIS vehicle--
they would get it set up.
818
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:52,103
Everything looks good.
We're ready to go.
819
00:35:52,206 --> 00:35:53,862
"All right, well, we're good
over here at the triangle.
820
00:35:53,965 --> 00:35:57,413
We're about to launch the rocket
in five, four, three..."
821
00:35:57,517 --> 00:36:00,000
The OSIRIS system would go out.
Then we'd get ready
822
00:36:00,103 --> 00:36:02,310
to do the next launch.
Same thing happened.
823
00:36:02,413 --> 00:36:04,724
It's like somebody just pulled
the entire plug,
824
00:36:04,827 --> 00:36:06,379
and all the power
to the truck just went out.
825
00:36:06,482 --> 00:36:07,551
Wow.
826
00:36:07,655 --> 00:36:08,896
TRAVIS:
I...
827
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,620
It makes no sense. It's like
828
00:36:10,724 --> 00:36:11,689
when we were launching
the rocket
829
00:36:11,793 --> 00:36:13,793
up through that anomalous spot
in the triangle
830
00:36:13,896 --> 00:36:16,551
that something didn't want
that truck to gather data.
831
00:36:16,655 --> 00:36:19,000
BRYANT:
And, Brandon, there was actually
832
00:36:19,103 --> 00:36:22,034
a-a disturbing incident that
happened when they were here.
833
00:36:22,137 --> 00:36:25,586
One of the former military guys,
834
00:36:25,689 --> 00:36:27,275
he was sitting
right where you're sitting
835
00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:31,965
and all of the sudden
just had a big medical episode.
836
00:36:32,068 --> 00:36:33,517
Really?
837
00:36:36,586 --> 00:36:37,689
That seems insidious.
838
00:36:37,793 --> 00:36:39,896
When I bought the ranch,
839
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,655
I'd heard reports
840
00:36:41,758 --> 00:36:45,655
that former military personnel
visiting the ranch
841
00:36:45,758 --> 00:36:48,758
had such disturbing experiences
842
00:36:48,862 --> 00:36:51,482
that they refused
to ever come back.
843
00:36:51,586 --> 00:36:54,482
Which would imply
that it's an outside energy.
844
00:36:54,586 --> 00:36:57,034
-Yeah.
-BRANDON: Yeah.
The fact that something
845
00:36:57,137 --> 00:36:58,965
would be interfering
846
00:36:59,068 --> 00:37:02,551
with a guest here
at Skinwalker Ranch
847
00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:05,689
that is part
of the expanded investigation
848
00:37:05,793 --> 00:37:08,517
points to, I think,
849
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:11,103
malevolent intent.
850
00:37:17,965 --> 00:37:19,620
TRAVIS:
The question is
851
00:37:19,724 --> 00:37:21,620
is it malicious
of humanity's doing?
852
00:37:21,724 --> 00:37:22,793
Or is it malicious
of some other doing
853
00:37:22,896 --> 00:37:24,482
that we can't explain?
854
00:37:25,448 --> 00:37:27,448
BRANDON:
Can you ascribe these events
855
00:37:27,551 --> 00:37:29,448
including
electromagnetic anomalies,
856
00:37:29,551 --> 00:37:31,275
acute medical episodes
857
00:37:31,379 --> 00:37:34,344
correlated with
unidentified aerial phenomena
858
00:37:34,448 --> 00:37:37,620
-with mankind, with something
that we're aware of?
-Not... Cer...
859
00:37:37,724 --> 00:37:40,758
Certainly not all of them,
Brandon.
860
00:37:40,862 --> 00:37:42,965
I can't say for sure
what we've experienced is being
861
00:37:43,068 --> 00:37:46,137
caused by something man-made,
but Brandon has a point.
862
00:37:46,241 --> 00:37:48,448
We're recording
more and more evidence
863
00:37:48,551 --> 00:37:51,827
that unnatural events are
occurring on Skinwalker Ranch.
864
00:37:51,931 --> 00:37:54,689
We just don't have enough data
to make an educated guess
865
00:37:54,793 --> 00:37:57,551
on what they are
and why they're happening.
866
00:37:58,551 --> 00:38:02,793
So, why do these events continue
to occur above the triangle?
867
00:38:02,896 --> 00:38:05,172
-BRYANT: Hmm.
-I-It's really interesting.
868
00:38:05,275 --> 00:38:06,689
ERIK:
Why the triangle? Are there
869
00:38:06,793 --> 00:38:09,655
any special physical,
uh, properties out there
870
00:38:09,758 --> 00:38:11,517
that we're unaware of?
You know, would have to relate
871
00:38:11,620 --> 00:38:12,965
to geology somehow.
Or some artifact.
872
00:38:13,068 --> 00:38:14,413
-Right.
-TRAVIS: So,
873
00:38:14,517 --> 00:38:16,586
there really is no
874
00:38:16,689 --> 00:38:19,689
logical explanation for it.
875
00:38:19,793 --> 00:38:23,000
Which lends us
to-to at least wonder
876
00:38:23,103 --> 00:38:25,206
if there's a wormhole or portal.
877
00:38:26,103 --> 00:38:28,137
TRAVIS:
I don't know. Some kind
878
00:38:28,241 --> 00:38:29,862
of science fiction phenomenon
happening,
879
00:38:29,965 --> 00:38:31,655
like a black hole or wormhole.
880
00:38:31,758 --> 00:38:34,275
But nobody on this planet
has the knowledge
881
00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:36,965
to build something that does
all of these phenomena.
882
00:38:37,068 --> 00:38:39,655
And to be able to target
specific individuals,
883
00:38:39,758 --> 00:38:41,172
whether it be Thomas Winterton,
884
00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:44,482
whether it be
this former military,
885
00:38:44,586 --> 00:38:46,000
whether it be Travis.
886
00:38:46,103 --> 00:38:48,482
TRAVIS:
Yeah. Let me... Let me tell you,
887
00:38:48,586 --> 00:38:50,344
out of the amount
of experiments we've done
888
00:38:50,448 --> 00:38:52,413
and the number of anomalies
889
00:38:52,517 --> 00:38:54,655
that we've measured,
seen, captured,
890
00:38:54,758 --> 00:38:58,482
even if we end up explaining
891
00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:00,172
90% of them,
892
00:39:00,275 --> 00:39:04,068
that ten percent
is so unexplainable that there's
893
00:39:04,172 --> 00:39:05,896
something to this
894
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,344
that we've got
to wrap our minds around.
895
00:39:07,448 --> 00:39:09,241
Hundred percent.
896
00:39:09,344 --> 00:39:10,758
What could we be doing
897
00:39:10,862 --> 00:39:14,068
to explore that area
in a more active way?
898
00:39:14,172 --> 00:39:15,241
ERIK:
We do have some ideas
899
00:39:15,344 --> 00:39:17,827
about what we could do
to explore the space.
900
00:39:17,931 --> 00:39:20,586
You know, volumetric studies
that involve going into the air
901
00:39:20,689 --> 00:39:22,896
and taking measurements
with our instruments.
902
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,758
BRANDON:
Can we-can we move quickly
903
00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:27,275
to start exploring that
in light of these events?
904
00:39:27,379 --> 00:39:29,862
-We-We've already...
-I don't want to miss
a window of time.
905
00:39:29,965 --> 00:39:31,724
Here's the thing
I'm-I'm concerned with,
906
00:39:31,827 --> 00:39:34,724
is we're seeing activity
on a whole new level.
907
00:39:34,827 --> 00:39:38,103
TRAVIS:
Well, I think the right way
to go about it, uh, is
908
00:39:38,206 --> 00:39:41,758
we've got to put as many sensors
in that area over the ranch
909
00:39:41,862 --> 00:39:44,413
that stay there
as long as possible.
910
00:39:44,517 --> 00:39:47,379
Probably something
like some small airplane, right?
911
00:39:47,482 --> 00:39:49,758
Well, let's-let's proceed.
912
00:39:49,862 --> 00:39:52,620
Let's try to procure
those resources immediately,
913
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:56,413
especially while we have
these events occurring,
914
00:39:56,517 --> 00:39:59,413
and take advantage
of this opportunity
915
00:39:59,517 --> 00:40:02,482
to-to explore
that region above the triangle
916
00:40:02,586 --> 00:40:05,413
in a more aggressive fashion.
917
00:40:05,517 --> 00:40:07,413
-Very good. Well,
thank you for all of your help.
-TRAVIS: All right.
918
00:40:07,517 --> 00:40:11,172
-Good to see you again, Brandon.
-Dr. Taylor.
919
00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:14,379
ERIK:
Typically, we apply the tools
and methods of science
920
00:40:14,482 --> 00:40:16,034
to test a hypothesis.
921
00:40:16,137 --> 00:40:17,758
But I must say,
922
00:40:17,862 --> 00:40:20,206
very often,
the outcome is something
923
00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:24,000
completely outside of the scope
of our expectations.
924
00:40:24,103 --> 00:40:26,413
We are nowhere near finished
925
00:40:26,517 --> 00:40:28,034
with our investigation
of the ranch,
926
00:40:28,137 --> 00:40:29,862
and as mysterious events
continue,
927
00:40:29,965 --> 00:40:32,586
so, also,
will this investigation.
928
00:40:32,689 --> 00:40:36,000
TRAVIS:
There's something special
about the triangle,
929
00:40:36,103 --> 00:40:37,827
but what does that mean?
930
00:40:37,931 --> 00:40:40,896
Is that something
like a gravitational anomaly?
931
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,758
A gateway?
A doorway? A wormhole?
932
00:40:44,862 --> 00:40:46,862
We don't know, but this tells us
we've got to do
933
00:40:46,965 --> 00:40:49,724
a lot more
detailed experimentation
934
00:40:49,827 --> 00:40:52,862
of that area with more sensors,
935
00:40:52,965 --> 00:40:54,413
and the experiment
has got to tell us
936
00:40:54,517 --> 00:40:56,068
what's going on there.
937
00:40:56,172 --> 00:40:59,103
BRANDON:
We've seen physical evidence
938
00:40:59,206 --> 00:41:01,620
that what we are dealing with
at Skinwalker Ranch
939
00:41:01,724 --> 00:41:03,965
is not to be taken lightly.
940
00:41:04,068 --> 00:41:07,448
It seems like something
continues to push back on us
941
00:41:07,551 --> 00:41:09,482
and-and create obstacles.
942
00:41:09,586 --> 00:41:11,482
We are onto something.
943
00:41:11,586 --> 00:41:13,310
This is the time
to charge forward
944
00:41:13,413 --> 00:41:14,931
to better understand
945
00:41:15,034 --> 00:41:17,517
the strange activity
at Skinwalker Ranch.
946
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,137
We want to get your opinion
on this location.
947
00:41:25,241 --> 00:41:29,206
This area is used
to keep the evil on that side.
948
00:41:29,310 --> 00:41:33,206
Hey, Travis. I'm seeing the
shadow of some other aircraft.
949
00:41:33,310 --> 00:41:37,000
There's nothing
within 50 miles of the ranch.
950
00:41:37,103 --> 00:41:39,482
We are not seeing you
951
00:41:39,586 --> 00:41:42,000
-on the ADS-B.
-[static crackling]
952
00:41:42,103 --> 00:41:43,620
[staticky]:
I don't know what's going on.
953
00:41:43,724 --> 00:41:46,310
BRYANT:
Something doesn't want us
954
00:41:46,413 --> 00:41:48,172
to collect data
from the triangle.
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