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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:04,108 --> 00:02:07,194 -As you can see, after years of-- -The murder weapon . 2 00:02:07,361 --> 00:02:09,614 After years of bell use. 3 00:02:10,323 --> 00:02:11,490 Part of the hammer. 4 00:02:12,366 --> 00:02:16,078 Well , it's become part of the bell because there's, like, there's actual metal 5 00:02:16,162 --> 00:02:17,872 on this from the... 6 00:02:41,937 --> 00:02:45,024 Never-- Never go to any sort of Asian restaurant with a drummer. 7 00:02:45,983 --> 00:02:47,401 Fucking chopsticks! 8 00:02:47,860 --> 00:02:49,153 Good evening. 9 00:02:51,781 --> 00:02:53,741 -I don't know what he says. -No lift. 10 00:02:56,827 --> 00:02:58,746 Thank you very much indeed . 11 00:03:01,999 --> 00:03:05,002 Good night to you ! Thank you for coming. Thank you . 12 00:03:26,315 --> 00:03:27,692 [David] Beautiful . So complete. 13 00:03:27,983 --> 00:03:30,236 We've never played in Croatia-- Croatia before. 14 00:03:30,361 --> 00:03:31,737 Never been here but... 15 00:03:32,488 --> 00:03:33,698 The Romans got everywhere. 16 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,369 I get a little bit nervous, but I can't feel it yet. 17 00:03:39,245 --> 00:03:40,830 Hopefully I won't be too nervous. 18 00:03:48,629 --> 00:03:51,799 Whatever you do in rehearsals, there's a whole massive 19 00:03:51,966 --> 00:03:54,969 lift of gear when-- When there is an audience and for-- 20 00:03:55,136 --> 00:03:56,846 For everyone and for me definitely. 21 00:05:01,911 --> 00:05:04,538 Verona is very beautiful . Very gorgeous. 22 00:05:05,414 --> 00:05:07,041 Good energy here. Good people. 23 00:05:53,796 --> 00:05:57,716 -It's a sandwich. It was supposed to be-- -Show them your panini, darling. 24 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,553 It was supposed to be grilled , for a long time. 25 00:06:01,095 --> 00:06:03,973 But someone said the train is here, we must go now. 26 00:06:07,476 --> 00:06:09,979 It's Gavin . I was about to be so angry. 27 00:06:20,614 --> 00:06:23,909 Saw this bloke with a camera pointing at me and I couldn't even duck it. 28 00:06:24,034 --> 00:06:24,952 It's only me. 29 00:08:02,299 --> 00:08:03,217 Okay. 30 00:08:28,075 --> 00:08:30,703 Thank you . Thank you . 31 00:10:19,853 --> 00:10:23,315 [David] Looks like it's designed from one of those Amphitheatres, right? 32 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:24,983 -[man] Yeah. -[David] But it feels really small , 33 00:10:25,025 --> 00:10:27,319 so it feels like it's shrunk since the last time. 34 00:10:44,086 --> 00:10:45,212 -Sure? -That's good . 35 00:10:45,754 --> 00:10:47,714 -You're-- You're fine. -Okay. 36 00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:50,300 -You happy? -Yeah. 37 00:11:24,668 --> 00:11:27,171 -We're warming up. We're warming up. -What are we doing? 38 00:11:33,886 --> 00:11:36,096 Good to be back at the Albert Hall , David? 39 00:11:37,222 --> 00:11:38,473 At this moment, no. 40 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,727 -See you later. -See you later, David . 41 00:11:42,644 --> 00:11:44,521 -Done? -Yes. I guess so. 42 00:11:44,938 --> 00:11:46,273 Bit nervous at the minute. 43 00:12:22,017 --> 00:12:23,602 How was that? How was that? 44 00:12:24,186 --> 00:12:26,605 I'm traumatized . That was so scary. 45 00:12:26,813 --> 00:12:29,024 -Well done. -Well done, kid . You all right? 46 00:12:31,026 --> 00:12:32,986 Don't run away so fast next time. 47 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:34,863 You gotta stay and be thanked . 48 00:12:34,947 --> 00:12:36,114 -No. -Yes! 49 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,285 -Over to you ! -Sherry! 50 00:12:40,827 --> 00:12:43,497 His first professional engagement at the Albert Hall . 51 00:12:43,830 --> 00:12:45,541 -The crowd's better. -They were really enjoying it, 52 00:12:45,624 --> 00:12:49,002 -but in a different way. Less wavy way. -Reserved sort of way. 53 00:12:49,127 --> 00:12:51,755 Sort of English way. But you get used to the different countries. 1 00:14:42,576 --> 00:14:43,577 Yeah, they told me. Yeah. 2 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:55,232 They're the bike squad . 3 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,777 It does seem a little over the top. 4 00:16:48,326 --> 00:16:50,620 Just put it there, don't worry about it. It's only a bell . 5 00:16:52,706 --> 00:16:53,999 It's in C, isn't it? 6 00:16:58,545 --> 00:16:59,546 Yeah. 7 00:16:59,796 --> 00:17:03,300 The bell is a genuine bell . It's a solid piece of cast bronze. 8 00:17:04,342 --> 00:17:08,847 It takes three people to lift it and it has to travel in its own flight case, 9 00:17:08,930 --> 00:17:11,516 cast in Whitechapel in 2001 . 10 00:18:02,609 --> 00:18:04,611 Curitiba was definitely a highlight. 11 00:18:04,778 --> 00:18:06,988 Because I am from there and everyone was there. 12 00:18:07,155 --> 00:18:10,575 All my family and my friends and just to be able to play in my hometown ... 13 00:18:11,493 --> 00:18:15,956 with such a big act-- It was something very surreal , very surreal . 14 00:19:34,909 --> 00:19:36,411 One, two, three. 15 00:22:13,568 --> 00:22:15,028 [David] You know, it's fantastic to be here. 16 00:22:15,612 --> 00:22:18,239 South America. . . I've never really played South America before, and it's... 17 00:22:19,073 --> 00:22:20,283 The crowds are just so... 18 00:22:21,493 --> 00:22:25,413 I mean , the enthusiasm is matched to a sort of politeness. 19 00:22:25,497 --> 00:22:27,582 That's very, very. . . lovely, 20 00:22:27,957 --> 00:22:30,627 because they're really having a great time. You know, it's terrific. 21 00:23:29,477 --> 00:23:34,649 We've got the M25 50 times over here. We're jammed . We're jammed . 22 00:23:37,485 --> 00:23:38,486 Hello, Paul . 23 00:25:57,542 --> 00:26:00,670 It's big enough, isn't it? Fucking huge, in fact. 24 00:26:01,045 --> 00:26:02,839 Built in 1938 I am told . 25 00:26:18,479 --> 00:26:21,649 I mean , he doesn't tour very often , you know, and people want it madly. 26 00:26:21,899 --> 00:26:24,902 They want him to go out and , you know, they wanna hear him . 27 00:26:25,069 --> 00:26:25,945 See him , hear him . 28 00:26:26,112 --> 00:26:28,030 It's a huge part of a lot of people's lives. 29 00:26:28,114 --> 00:26:29,657 They just love it, you know. 1 00:27:55,394 --> 00:27:57,813 [David] This tour started last year, when the album came out. 2 00:27:58,314 --> 00:28:00,775 And we have done some Europe, and we done some South America. 3 00:28:01,192 --> 00:28:04,028 This is the third bit where we are doing the USA. 4 00:28:04,445 --> 00:28:05,780 But I'm really looking forward to it. 5 00:28:40,981 --> 00:28:42,399 Let's run through a set. 6 00:28:42,733 --> 00:28:44,902 And see how we go. We'll try and cut them short. 7 00:28:45,152 --> 00:28:46,070 Yeah. 8 00:28:50,282 --> 00:28:54,245 Our endeavour, this time, has been to try to do as many shows as we can 9 00:28:54,370 --> 00:28:56,997 in really memorable, beautiful places. 10 00:28:58,415 --> 00:29:01,418 Hollywood Bowl is one of the. . . The great, great venues. 11 00:29:02,086 --> 00:29:06,215 Which has its own atmosphere. If you go there, you don't forget. 12 00:29:16,934 --> 00:29:18,644 It's a great thrill to be here. 13 00:29:19,228 --> 00:29:23,149 Beautiful , beautiful place at which we played last in 1 972. 14 00:29:23,607 --> 00:29:26,152 When we were kids. And here I am again . 15 00:29:39,665 --> 00:29:42,710 The Cros, he's a local L.A. boy, born here, 16 00:29:43,002 --> 00:29:44,003 sang on this album , 17 00:29:44,420 --> 00:29:47,173 Rattle That Lock, and sang on the last On an lsland album . 18 00:29:47,381 --> 00:29:51,010 And he's here to join in a little bit. Have a bit of fun . 19 00:29:53,596 --> 00:29:56,348 Just gives you a change, a change of voices, 20 00:29:56,473 --> 00:29:58,893 adds something to the vibe of the evening. 21 00:30:04,773 --> 00:30:07,526 I need a hat. Otherwise I will burn . 22 00:30:07,776 --> 00:30:08,652 No, it's all right. 23 00:30:08,986 --> 00:30:11,655 Oh, yeah, maybe I will . It's cool . 24 00:30:14,241 --> 00:30:17,161 [Marc] And as the sun goes down , it will start to, like a slow... 25 00:30:17,244 --> 00:30:18,704 -Yeah. -We haven't put the chase in yet, 26 00:30:18,787 --> 00:30:19,955 -but we'll just do this. . . -Yeah. 27 00:30:20,539 --> 00:30:22,333 Marc Brickman is a real artist. 28 00:30:22,666 --> 00:30:26,003 We've been doing stuff together since 1 980, 29 00:30:26,212 --> 00:30:30,216 when he came in at the very last minute to do the lighting on The Wall Shows. 30 00:30:31,550 --> 00:30:33,344 -Wow. -Cool . I'm loving it. 31 00:31:19,098 --> 00:31:21,642 We have the lovely Mr. David Crosby. 32 00:32:21,785 --> 00:32:24,038 [David] Right. "5AM" into "Rattle That Lock". 33 00:33:24,807 --> 00:33:26,308 Just a handful of people. 34 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,345 Thank you very much indeed , good night. 35 00:36:05,842 --> 00:36:09,763 [David] It is a matter of sort of waiting until something strikes you . 36 00:36:10,055 --> 00:36:13,016 And that can be a tiny little moment of magic. 37 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:17,354 It can be an external sound or something that you write, create, 38 00:36:17,854 --> 00:36:22,484 which tend to, sort of, just pop into your head at strange moments. 39 00:36:22,609 --> 00:36:27,489 And these days, everyone carries a recording studio, a video suite, 40 00:36:27,573 --> 00:36:30,033 a communication centre in your pocket. 41 00:36:30,367 --> 00:36:35,789 So everything I do, or that strikes me, I can keep a record of. 42 00:36:36,081 --> 00:36:38,208 And then go back and work on later. 43 00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:13,076 [Polly] What's a Downtown Dog? 44 00:37:13,327 --> 00:37:15,120 It comes with mustard , tomato, relish, onion , 45 00:37:15,203 --> 00:37:16,580 pickle and hot pepper, celery salt. 46 00:37:17,247 --> 00:37:18,957 Okay. I want one of those, please. 47 00:37:21,168 --> 00:37:23,128 -I will have a Char Dog. -A Char Dog? 48 00:37:23,295 --> 00:37:25,213 Yeah. Whatever that is. 49 00:37:40,812 --> 00:37:44,274 [Richard Wright] It's like going into the sea. There's nothing. 50 00:38:04,336 --> 00:38:07,839 We did play Soldiers Field here once, Soldier Field I think it's called . 51 00:38:08,882 --> 00:38:10,258 I n the early 70's too. 52 00:38:11,385 --> 00:38:16,014 Middle 70's. Where we had to sue the local council 53 00:38:16,598 --> 00:38:18,100 Because they'd short changed us. 54 00:38:19,434 --> 00:38:22,437 Well , this one is one that I remember we had a great gig at. 55 00:38:22,729 --> 00:38:24,773 And I remember it being a beautiful building. 56 00:38:25,357 --> 00:38:26,858 And having fun , you know. 57 00:38:27,567 --> 00:38:30,987 Being one of the places in America where it's kind of a beautiful venue. 58 00:38:31,113 --> 00:38:34,908 You know, Radio City, this place, Hollywood Bowl , few other places but... 59 00:38:37,619 --> 00:38:39,621 Does it mean you play any differently, do you think? 60 00:38:40,163 --> 00:38:42,040 Tell you afterwards. Don't know. 61 00:39:21,580 --> 00:39:24,750 So what was the first song that you wrote for him? 62 00:39:25,167 --> 00:39:27,377 I think it was "What Do You Want From Me?". 63 00:39:27,544 --> 00:39:28,420 Which-- 64 00:39:28,503 --> 00:39:30,255 Which is bad for a relationship. 65 00:39:34,342 --> 00:39:36,887 "What the fuck do you want from me?" We can't call it that. 66 00:39:36,970 --> 00:39:37,888 Yeah, yeah, yeah 67 00:39:38,013 --> 00:39:40,724 -She knew what I wanted from her. -Exactly, of course she did . 68 00:39:40,932 --> 00:39:42,267 -Yeah. -Were you shy about that? 69 00:39:42,434 --> 00:39:43,894 I can't imagine, being you . 70 00:39:45,687 --> 00:39:51,276 So, it was that. And did that establish a pattern that began in your relationship? 71 00:39:51,568 --> 00:39:55,822 Did you come up with some kind of musical framework or some sounds or something 72 00:39:56,114 --> 00:40:00,118 that Polly then provides the words for? Or do you say "I've got something that, 73 00:40:00,202 --> 00:40:03,330 you know, I want you to make real"? 74 00:40:03,622 --> 00:40:08,418 Apart from one, all of the songs have come from the music first. 75 00:40:08,877 --> 00:40:11,713 And they become reasonably well developed . 76 00:40:11,922 --> 00:40:16,176 And if Polly likes one of them particularly she will say, 77 00:40:17,093 --> 00:40:21,139 "Give me that one on my iPad and I will walk with it and ... 78 00:40:22,432 --> 00:40:23,517 come up with something." 79 00:40:23,642 --> 00:40:29,105 She has an extraordinary ability to hit the nail precisely on the head of... 80 00:40:30,190 --> 00:40:34,110 something that feels like it's been in that piece of music all along 81 00:40:34,194 --> 00:40:37,155 and has been dying to get out, but I've been unable to fathom . 82 00:40:37,447 --> 00:40:40,158 So it's something that you can't articulate for yourself 83 00:40:40,242 --> 00:40:42,702 that she is articulating for you , or that she's creating the-- 84 00:40:42,828 --> 00:40:45,539 -She's creating it-- -David is incredibly eloquent 85 00:40:45,622 --> 00:40:47,457 at expressing himself musically. 86 00:40:47,916 --> 00:40:49,960 And I think there's a price to be paid for that. 87 00:40:50,460 --> 00:40:51,461 And ... 88 00:40:57,175 --> 00:41:00,303 And it's a bit like, you know, it's a marriage, I stare at him , 89 00:41:00,387 --> 00:41:02,264 try to work out what it is he's thinking. 90 00:41:02,389 --> 00:41:05,350 And often , if we have a very important conversation , I really think that 91 00:41:05,433 --> 00:41:08,395 I should be the one saying, "So, you know, what do you think about this, you know, 92 00:41:08,478 --> 00:41:11,565 what should we do?" And he should just reply with a guitar. 93 00:41:41,553 --> 00:41:44,055 I think it's one of those things, the longer the tour goes on , 94 00:41:44,139 --> 00:41:47,684 people gel more and musically it just flows better. 95 00:42:23,053 --> 00:42:24,387 Can I have a hotdog, please? 96 00:42:26,556 --> 00:42:28,141 What would you like with your hotdog? 97 00:42:30,018 --> 00:42:34,814 You know, onions, mustard and some ketchup. 98 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,067 Onion , mustard , ketchup... 99 00:42:37,275 --> 00:42:39,361 Do you want a drink, anyone? Anyone want a drink as well? 100 00:42:39,486 --> 00:42:43,490 It's Chelsea Papaya and Naomi Campbell eats here all the time. 1 00:43:07,515 --> 00:43:11,727 [David] We're in Wroclaw. It's the European capital of culture. 2 00:43:11,936 --> 00:43:15,397 And our stage is all set up down there, and we're doing our first show of our... 3 00:43:15,856 --> 00:43:18,234 European tour, down there, tomorrow night. 4 00:43:27,743 --> 00:43:29,328 We're playing with an orchestra. 5 00:43:29,745 --> 00:43:31,580 The orchestra's conducted by Zbigniew Preisner, 6 00:43:31,789 --> 00:43:35,960 who did the orchestration for this album and the previous On an Island album . 7 00:43:40,047 --> 00:43:41,173 It's looking good . 8 00:43:42,424 --> 00:43:46,428 We did a good rehearsal , and we're doing some more rehearsing today. 9 00:43:46,512 --> 00:43:49,306 And . . . pretty happy with the way it's all looking and sounding. 10 00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:54,228 And we sat up here and watched the lights being rehearsed last night. 11 00:43:54,687 --> 00:43:58,148 It's very beautiful and it's going to be a great show. 12 00:44:02,903 --> 00:44:05,614 It's turned out to be a lot of fun . We are having a great time. 13 00:44:05,948 --> 00:44:09,326 And this is the sort of. . . the final bit. 14 00:44:09,743 --> 00:44:12,288 Playing beautiful , old Europe. 15 00:44:13,455 --> 00:44:14,999 It's a bit odd on a day like today, 16 00:44:15,082 --> 00:44:19,962 when we're just voted to leave Europe as Britons. 17 00:44:27,469 --> 00:44:32,516 [Chuck] I'm at home with my wife, and my wife, Rose Lane, checks our website, 18 00:44:32,725 --> 00:44:34,643 and she says, "You know, there's a message here 19 00:44:34,727 --> 00:44:37,021 from someone claiming to be David Gilmour." 20 00:44:37,646 --> 00:44:38,731 And the message read , 21 00:44:39,148 --> 00:44:42,276 "Hi, Chuck, David Gilmour here, honest." 22 00:44:42,860 --> 00:44:45,904 [Joao] I didn't even have an audition or anything. I just went to Phil's house, 23 00:44:46,030 --> 00:44:50,576 and he filmed me playing the sax solo of "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" 24 00:44:51,327 --> 00:44:53,537 along to a YouTube video. 25 00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:56,874 And he recorded it on his phone and sent it over to David and , 26 00:44:56,957 --> 00:44:59,001 that was basically my audition . 27 00:45:08,594 --> 00:45:10,095 You know, I met David ... 28 00:45:11,096 --> 00:45:11,930 about... 29 00:45:12,806 --> 00:45:14,767 30 years ago. Close to 30 years ago. 30 00:45:14,933 --> 00:45:16,935 Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. 31 00:45:17,061 --> 00:45:21,190 I was a music director for Michael Jackson and I remember seeing 32 00:45:21,482 --> 00:45:25,527 David with Pink Floyd . The first time was Versailles. 33 00:45:25,736 --> 00:45:26,654 It was... 34 00:45:27,112 --> 00:45:30,658 such a spectacle, you know, I am used to being in big productions, 35 00:45:30,783 --> 00:45:34,953 obviously, with Michael , but these guys. . . on a different level , right here. 36 00:45:48,008 --> 00:45:50,469 [Louise] The delight of Rome, Italy. 37 00:45:50,678 --> 00:45:53,097 My goodness, heat of greatness and , 38 00:45:53,514 --> 00:45:58,435 here, ready to be doing two great shows with David . 39 00:45:59,603 --> 00:46:00,938 [Chester] I mean too many surprises. 40 00:46:01,230 --> 00:46:02,189 Endless, 41 00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:04,316 endless surprises. 42 00:46:05,317 --> 00:46:07,319 David creates magic, always has done. 43 00:46:08,529 --> 00:46:09,863 Master of surprise. 44 00:46:11,156 --> 00:46:13,951 And he's still intensely interested in what he's doing. 45 00:46:15,411 --> 00:46:17,204 Probably the best man I've every played with, 46 00:46:17,413 --> 00:46:21,709 in terms of the way the energy moves around the stage. 47 00:47:06,003 --> 00:47:08,046 You got me. You got me! 48 00:47:08,672 --> 00:47:09,548 You got me. 49 00:47:12,551 --> 00:47:15,512 [Guy] It is a historylarchaeological tour of ancient sites, yes. 50 00:47:15,596 --> 00:47:19,016 It was a-- I answered the advert in the back of The Lady. 51 00:47:19,391 --> 00:47:22,603 For short walking tour of archaeological sites in Southern Europe. 52 00:47:29,777 --> 00:47:31,862 There you are, moving through the European tour. 53 00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:36,408 [Colin] It's up, it's down . It's light, it's shade, it's dark, it's bright. 54 00:47:36,575 --> 00:47:40,204 It's loud , it's quiet. You know, all frequencies are in there, in some way, 55 00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:42,790 and you can be really artistic with the music. I mean it's great. 56 00:47:43,582 --> 00:47:46,627 As an engineer, for me, it's the best thing ever. I have to say. 57 00:47:51,757 --> 00:47:54,635 Musically it's been great. Really stimulating. Everyone's got on . 58 00:47:54,843 --> 00:47:58,472 Uh. . . But in terms of different, I think-- I think everything, 59 00:47:58,889 --> 00:48:01,183 you know, everything's-- I mean , like this whole tour's been different. 60 00:48:01,433 --> 00:48:04,394 [Roger] It's a tour of one-offs. No two shows are the same. 61 00:48:04,728 --> 00:48:07,981 Every day has a different set of rules. A different stage. 62 00:48:08,190 --> 00:48:12,361 How we get it in and how we put it up, is different every day. 63 00:48:12,903 --> 00:48:13,904 Yes, go ahead . 64 00:48:14,488 --> 00:48:16,365 [David] I'm just arriving on site. 65 00:48:17,407 --> 00:48:18,408 [Roger] Jolly good . 66 00:48:52,317 --> 00:48:56,530 [Chuck] I think it's a vision that he has, he wants to play beautiful places, 67 00:48:56,780 --> 00:48:59,408 you know, here we are in Europe playing 68 00:48:59,867 --> 00:49:01,618 largely Roman amphitheatres. 69 00:49:01,827 --> 00:49:05,622 Which is just insane. But it's so wonderful 70 00:49:05,706 --> 00:49:08,000 and the setting is so special , you know. 71 00:49:08,083 --> 00:49:11,336 I think it has an effect on how you play. 72 00:49:11,753 --> 00:49:15,299 It's historic, every venue has a deep history to it. 73 00:49:15,966 --> 00:49:19,469 And somehow that filters into the music. And when you are on that stage 74 00:49:19,553 --> 00:49:22,055 and you're looking out, you're looking at all these beautiful , 75 00:49:22,514 --> 00:49:24,892 old ancient Roman architecture. 76 00:49:25,642 --> 00:49:27,936 It's just so special and so unique 77 00:49:28,061 --> 00:49:31,148 and very moving to be able to do it in that setting. 78 00:49:32,774 --> 00:49:34,026 Where are we off to today? 79 00:49:34,610 --> 00:49:37,571 We're off in a silly convoy, instead of a nice bus. 80 00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:40,240 It's all my fault. Yeah, I know. Every time. Blame me. 81 00:49:41,325 --> 00:49:42,326 What can I do? 82 00:50:10,479 --> 00:50:13,106 Excuse me, there's a pecking order here. 83 00:50:15,275 --> 00:50:19,029 You know, at this time in my life and my career, it's very nice to... 84 00:50:19,780 --> 00:50:23,617 not put my career absolutely as the first thing. 85 00:50:23,951 --> 00:50:25,494 I mean obviously I am doing it 86 00:50:26,286 --> 00:50:28,497 to the best of my ability. I've put... 87 00:50:28,914 --> 00:50:31,583 everything into making sure it's right, but at the same time... 88 00:50:32,125 --> 00:50:37,089 And I'm sort of doing it in school holidays, university holiday things, 89 00:50:37,172 --> 00:50:40,634 more so that. . . some of my kids can ... 90 00:50:41,343 --> 00:50:43,178 Well , some of them aren't kids, really, anymore. 91 00:50:43,428 --> 00:50:46,306 But it's nice of them to see what I do and to be able to... 92 00:50:46,848 --> 00:50:50,352 come along on these legs of the tour. And they're brilliant critics. 93 00:50:51,144 --> 00:50:53,855 They watch the shows and they give me advice. 94 00:50:54,439 --> 00:50:55,524 Very good advice. 95 00:51:13,417 --> 00:51:16,461 We are in Verona. Once again . 96 00:51:16,586 --> 00:51:20,173 At this marvellous, marvellous amphitheatre. 97 00:51:26,471 --> 00:51:29,433 It's such a privilege to be able to play music with David and ... 98 00:51:29,683 --> 00:51:32,602 And the calibre of musicians in this band . 99 00:51:33,061 --> 00:51:34,604 And it's just great. 100 00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:37,274 Every night it seems like it keeps getting better and better, 101 00:51:37,357 --> 00:51:40,068 and we keep gelling more and more as a band . 102 00:51:40,152 --> 00:51:43,405 And having a lot of fun . Yeah, it feels great. 103 00:51:48,452 --> 00:51:50,620 It's great to see grown men actual-- 104 00:51:50,954 --> 00:51:51,872 Crying! 105 00:51:51,955 --> 00:51:56,126 Crying. Looking as if it's Father Christmas, 106 00:51:56,251 --> 00:51:58,170 -it's Christmas, it's their birthday. -So funny. 107 00:51:58,253 --> 00:52:01,173 They're seeing their child being born . . . It's like, "Oh, my goodness", 108 00:52:01,256 --> 00:52:04,342 and cannot quite believe it. They cannot believe, he's there. 109 00:52:44,716 --> 00:52:47,385 [Chuck] I understood that family was very important to David , 110 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,473 and I have the utmost respect for that. I mean it's fantastic to... 111 00:52:51,973 --> 00:52:54,309 see a relationship like his and Polly's. 112 00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,478 I mean not only are they married , 113 00:52:56,561 --> 00:52:59,231 and for 20 odd years, and have wonderful children . 114 00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:01,441 But they collaborate, you know. 115 00:53:01,525 --> 00:53:06,571 She's an amazing lyricist, fantastic. The themes they come up with. 116 00:53:06,738 --> 00:53:09,491 Lyrically and then the way David puts together with music. 117 00:53:09,574 --> 00:53:13,620 And of course, David writes lyrics as well so it's a wonderful blend . 118 00:53:14,162 --> 00:53:16,081 Not so easily done, I think, 119 00:53:16,164 --> 00:53:19,584 in a lot of marriages but it certainly works for them , and works so well . 120 00:53:39,437 --> 00:53:40,480 I think I got them . 121 00:53:48,488 --> 00:53:50,240 At the end-- Very end of "Shine On" 122 00:53:50,323 --> 00:53:52,159 -you know, he stops. -Yes. 123 00:53:52,284 --> 00:53:54,870 I've suggested he just keeps playing, but just comes off... 124 00:53:55,162 --> 00:53:56,997 -Oh, right yeah, yeah, yeah. -And walks off stage... 125 00:53:59,457 --> 00:54:00,542 And do this... 126 00:54:04,004 --> 00:54:05,797 [Steve] David has encouraged us 127 00:54:05,881 --> 00:54:08,633 to express ourselves within the parameters of the music. 128 00:54:09,301 --> 00:54:10,802 You know, have your own voice. 129 00:54:11,428 --> 00:54:13,346 He's freed up some people musically, except me. 130 00:54:14,181 --> 00:54:17,225 I've been-- He's made it very clear that he wants everyone to have fun . 131 00:54:17,601 --> 00:54:18,518 Except me. 132 00:54:18,602 --> 00:54:22,439 Actually from 2006 onwards, I thought my playing had changed to a point 133 00:54:22,522 --> 00:54:25,192 where it was kind of. . . exactly what David would had wanted . 134 00:54:25,609 --> 00:54:30,530 But no! There's still more, he's still wanting to prune more. 135 00:54:41,833 --> 00:54:42,792 Nice catch. 136 00:55:56,408 --> 00:55:59,160 [Greg] This is not your average arena. I mean , you know... 137 00:56:00,161 --> 00:56:05,250 It's amphitheatres. Pompeii, and Verona, and . . . estates. 138 00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:09,421 Like in Chantilly, you know? And just really, really unique, 139 00:56:09,921 --> 00:56:12,924 and that's been another plus, as well 140 00:56:13,258 --> 00:56:15,927 to add to the, you know, wonderful memories. 141 00:56:16,636 --> 00:56:19,639 Three! Yes! 142 00:56:21,308 --> 00:56:25,353 [Marc] You know, look, I was involved in Venice, Palace of Versailles. 143 00:56:26,313 --> 00:56:29,441 I think that, you know, bringing chaos to... 144 00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:32,027 historic landmarks is always fun . 145 00:56:34,112 --> 00:56:36,781 [Roger] Pompeii might be the oldest arena in the world . 146 00:56:36,865 --> 00:56:38,783 But it's also probably the smallest. 147 00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:42,203 You cannot sort of say, "Okay, we're doing a Roman amphitheatre, 148 00:56:42,287 --> 00:56:45,582 that means there's an entrance here and an entrance there". 149 00:56:45,749 --> 00:56:50,837 Everything had to be pushed from the road , a quarter of a mile to the stage entrance. 150 00:56:51,212 --> 00:56:53,506 Well , the problems with Pompeii, with this show... 151 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,635 are that there's no roof. So, there's nothing to hang anything off of. 152 00:56:58,136 --> 00:57:01,348 Lighting was all done with follow spots pretty much and floor lighting, 153 00:57:01,431 --> 00:57:05,018 so it was a completely one-off approach for Pompeii. 154 00:57:26,414 --> 00:57:30,543 [Marc] You know, in some crazy way I actually like the quiet parts better. 155 00:57:30,668 --> 00:57:33,213 For me, the extreme parts of the show are, 156 00:57:33,463 --> 00:57:34,881 to me, like, low hanging fruit, 157 00:57:35,131 --> 00:57:37,092 'cause you know you're going to get a reaction . 158 00:57:38,176 --> 00:57:43,390 Think it's probably harder to keep people focused with new material 159 00:57:43,723 --> 00:57:46,518 they're not familiar with, and quiet material . 160 00:57:47,477 --> 00:57:50,939 So those are my challenges and if I'm able to sit in the audience 161 00:57:51,022 --> 00:57:54,317 and see that nobody moves I feel like I've done my job. 162 00:57:57,070 --> 00:58:00,740 I mean , I've spent a lot of my life, my career singing other people's words, 163 00:58:01,032 --> 00:58:02,534 as well as some of my own . 164 00:58:02,617 --> 00:58:06,746 Now I'm singing Polly's words, and I owe it to those people... 165 00:58:07,414 --> 00:58:11,167 to mean what I say, what I sing. 166 00:58:12,335 --> 00:58:15,672 I concentrate on it. I am thinking about it, as I am singing. 167 00:58:16,756 --> 00:58:19,342 I mean , there is a lot of things to be thinking about when you're singing, 168 00:58:19,426 --> 00:58:22,429 and playing. Being present, in that moment, 169 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,807 and what you're doing, 1 00 percent, is very, very important. 170 00:58:51,082 --> 00:58:53,793 I will never forget any of these shows, you know. 171 00:58:54,043 --> 00:58:55,420 It was absolutely amazing. 172 00:58:57,255 --> 00:58:58,631 [Greg] I never imagined 173 00:58:59,048 --> 00:59:03,386 that from being a kid , listening to songs like "Money" and "Us and Them", 174 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,139 and "Wish You Were Here", that I'd be playing those... 175 00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:07,765 with this guy. 176 00:59:16,941 --> 00:59:21,112 [David] You know, when this tour is done. I guess I'll be back in the studio, 177 00:59:21,654 --> 00:59:24,699 moving forward , looking forward . Always looking forward . 1 00:59:32,891 --> 00:59:35,728 -I'll just start with a nice easy one. -Yeah. 2 00:59:40,983 --> 00:59:42,443 Who is David Gilmour? 3 00:59:44,570 --> 00:59:48,532 God , that's easy? I wish I knew, I've no idea. 4 00:59:52,161 --> 00:59:55,164 Someone who spends his life driven by music more than anything else, 5 00:59:55,247 --> 00:59:56,290 I would say. 6 01:00:06,467 --> 01:00:10,971 [Alan] David Jon Gilmour was born on Wednesday 6th March 1 946, 7 01:00:11,096 --> 01:00:16,018 in Cambridge, England , the third child of Sylvia and Douglas Gilmour. 8 01:00:16,769 --> 01:00:20,063 At the age of 21 , he joined the band Pink Floyd , 9 01:00:20,481 --> 01:00:25,110 who subsequently went on to sell over 250 million albums. 10 01:00:28,071 --> 01:00:32,284 His playing style and trademark guitar sound is known the world over. 11 01:00:32,826 --> 01:00:36,830 And in 2011 , Rolling Stone magazine ranked him 12 01:00:36,914 --> 01:00:39,249 one of the greatest guitarists of all time. 13 01:01:22,626 --> 01:01:25,254 His latest solo album , Rattle That Lock, 14 01:01:25,462 --> 01:01:28,465 recently entered the UK charts at number one. 15 01:01:29,633 --> 01:01:32,010 And now, for the first time in nine years, 16 01:01:32,135 --> 01:01:33,554 he's embarked on a tour 17 01:01:33,637 --> 01:01:36,723 that's seen him perform sold-out shows in amphitheatres 18 01:01:36,807 --> 01:01:41,770 and grand halls across Europe, and at the Royal Albert Hall in London . 19 01:02:02,624 --> 01:02:05,168 This unlikely location on the Thames 20 01:02:05,544 --> 01:02:09,214 is where David Gilmour records, and mixes all his music. 21 01:02:09,548 --> 01:02:12,843 -[Alan] And this is it? -[David] This is the boat. 22 01:02:13,051 --> 01:02:15,429 [Alan] And where did you first glimpse this? 23 01:02:15,512 --> 01:02:17,014 [David] I was being driven by someone. 24 01:02:17,097 --> 01:02:18,724 I stopped over there on the road somewhere, 25 01:02:18,932 --> 01:02:21,351 and there was less foliage then . 26 01:02:21,518 --> 01:02:25,105 I could see all that glass and stuff, and I said , "Stop for a minute". 27 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,567 And peered over the wall up there 28 01:02:28,775 --> 01:02:30,277 and thought, "Wow, that's fantastic". 29 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,363 The very next week I was sitting in the dentist's waiting room , 30 01:02:33,530 --> 01:02:36,533 picked up a Country Life, and there it was for sale. 31 01:02:37,034 --> 01:02:39,786 I rang up the agent, came straight down here, and ... 32 01:02:40,704 --> 01:02:43,790 [Alan] And so, you split your time between here, 33 01:02:43,874 --> 01:02:45,626 the house in Sussex, and Brighton? 34 01:02:45,709 --> 01:02:49,296 Yeah, this one has got the great technology for proper mixing. 35 01:02:49,379 --> 01:02:53,133 It's got a mixing desk with Neve flying faders, 36 01:02:53,216 --> 01:02:57,054 -where all the faders are motorised . -So, this is the most hi-tech bit? 37 01:02:57,220 --> 01:02:59,890 This is the most hi-tech bit and I'd have to come here to mix. 38 01:02:59,973 --> 01:03:01,767 We look at it and it looks, "Oh, yeah, really?" 39 01:03:01,892 --> 01:03:03,393 Well , it's. . . beautiful . 40 01:03:06,730 --> 01:03:08,065 And that's it being built. 41 01:03:09,775 --> 01:03:12,569 Mahogany, Crittall's gun-metal windows. 42 01:03:12,903 --> 01:03:14,488 -[Alan] It's quite lavish. -[David] Yeah. 43 01:03:25,499 --> 01:03:28,961 When we started thinking about doing the Momentary Lapse of Reason album , 44 01:03:29,086 --> 01:03:31,588 I'd just found and bought this place. 45 01:03:32,422 --> 01:03:35,217 Nothing had been soundproofed , there was no double glazing. 46 01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:36,802 [Alan] So, the whole band would be in here? 47 01:03:36,885 --> 01:03:38,470 [David] The whole band would be in this room . 48 01:03:38,595 --> 01:03:41,598 The drums would be in this corner, which has some sort of padding 49 01:03:41,682 --> 01:03:45,769 behind it and up there, to help absorb the drum sound a bit. 50 01:03:45,852 --> 01:03:47,729 And the rest of us would be in here. 51 01:03:47,813 --> 01:03:51,233 Our guitar amps wouldn't be in here, they'd be in the other rooms 52 01:03:51,316 --> 01:03:53,443 out there, in those little bedrooms and stuff. 53 01:03:53,986 --> 01:03:56,947 So we'd be in here, we'd be hearing what we're doing on headphones, 54 01:03:57,447 --> 01:04:00,701 but they'd be recording a Hammond organ , Leslie in that room , 55 01:04:00,784 --> 01:04:04,621 a guitar in that room , the bass would be going straight to tape, without an amp. 56 01:04:05,247 --> 01:04:08,709 So, yeah, we made pretty much all of A Momentary Lapse of Reason in here. 57 01:04:09,251 --> 01:04:14,256 Most of. . . pretty much all of The Division Bell in here, in this room . 58 01:04:14,798 --> 01:04:17,384 And these tracks sound enormous, you know... 59 01:04:18,051 --> 01:04:20,887 you can't quite imagine they come out of a tiny little space like this. 60 01:04:22,639 --> 01:04:24,141 Control room's in here. 61 01:04:26,018 --> 01:04:27,310 [Alan] Oh, look. 62 01:04:27,602 --> 01:04:30,480 Well , who wouldn't want to make music in this room , I have to say. 63 01:04:30,564 --> 01:04:32,149 [David] It's fantastic, isn't it? 64 01:04:44,453 --> 01:04:47,164 -[Alan] What's your first memories, then? -[David] Gosh. 65 01:04:48,874 --> 01:04:51,877 I have one sort of snapshot memory of me... 66 01:04:52,502 --> 01:04:56,089 when I apparently left my nursery school , 67 01:04:56,173 --> 01:04:59,092 at about the age of three, which is in Homerton College, 68 01:04:59,593 --> 01:05:01,928 where my mother had been doing teacher training, 69 01:05:02,012 --> 01:05:05,057 and trying to walk home three miles to the other end of Cambridge, 70 01:05:05,140 --> 01:05:06,433 down Hills Road . 71 01:05:07,517 --> 01:05:08,602 That's my first-- 72 01:05:08,769 --> 01:05:11,396 The first snapshot memory I can think of. 73 01:05:12,064 --> 01:05:14,107 What kind of a family life was it? 74 01:05:14,191 --> 01:05:17,694 Your father was a professor, an academic. 75 01:05:17,778 --> 01:05:20,322 [David] My father was a university lecturer at Cambridge... 76 01:05:21,907 --> 01:05:24,159 lecturing in zoology and genetics. 77 01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:29,081 My mother had been at teacher training college, 78 01:05:29,164 --> 01:05:31,041 but she never really went into teaching. 79 01:05:31,166 --> 01:05:33,877 Later she became a film editor at the BBC, 80 01:05:34,461 --> 01:05:36,213 working on Junior Points of View. 81 01:05:37,089 --> 01:05:38,298 [Alan] You went to boarding school 82 01:05:38,381 --> 01:05:40,342 -when you were five years old . -[David] Yes. 83 01:05:41,426 --> 01:05:43,970 My dad went to a university in Madison , Wisconsin , 84 01:05:44,387 --> 01:05:45,472 for six months 85 01:05:45,847 --> 01:05:49,643 and we were popped into a boarding school in Buckinghamshire. 86 01:05:50,852 --> 01:05:55,315 It was me, at five, my sister, maybe just approaching seven , 87 01:05:55,398 --> 01:05:59,402 and my brother, who was four. We were put in there for a year. 88 01:05:59,486 --> 01:06:06,118 My parents only spent one term , six months in fact, in America, 89 01:06:06,201 --> 01:06:08,662 and then came back and lived in Cambridge, 90 01:06:08,745 --> 01:06:11,915 but they didn't see fit to take us out for Christmas... 91 01:06:13,583 --> 01:06:15,377 or for the next two terms, 92 01:06:15,919 --> 01:06:20,090 while they remembered , what life was like without children . 93 01:06:24,594 --> 01:06:26,847 [Alan] And when are the first experiences of music, 94 01:06:26,930 --> 01:06:30,225 when did that first begin to resonate in your life as a kid? 95 01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:34,604 [David] I mean , we had the radio on all the time, and records on all the time. 96 01:06:34,729 --> 01:06:38,859 My parents had a very early stereo hi-fi system in the house, 97 01:06:38,942 --> 01:06:41,695 they loved lots of music. 98 01:06:41,778 --> 01:06:45,240 They loved show music, On the Town, West Side Story, 99 01:06:45,323 --> 01:06:48,618 when that came out, and my mother played a bit of piano 100 01:06:48,785 --> 01:06:52,330 and my father loved singing, you know, in the house, in the bath. 101 01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:57,502 So, there was a lot of musical noise going on constantly, 102 01:06:58,378 --> 01:07:02,966 but the first big, sort of, éclat, sort of moment... 103 01:07:03,842 --> 01:07:07,429 was Bill Haley's "Rock Around the Clock", which came out when I was ten . 104 01:07:16,271 --> 01:07:18,565 And that was brilliant. 105 01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:25,989 And shortly after that, Elvis Presley, with 'rHeartbreak Hotel'r. 106 01:07:36,333 --> 01:07:38,668 You still listen to it and you think, "What a brilliant record", 107 01:07:38,752 --> 01:07:39,669 I mean , it is... 108 01:07:41,046 --> 01:07:44,424 There's so little going on , hardly any drums, if any, 109 01:07:44,507 --> 01:07:47,552 just a bass and a piano and a guitar, and a voice. 110 01:07:48,011 --> 01:07:50,013 But he was absolutely magnetic. 111 01:07:59,522 --> 01:08:03,109 [Alan] And this is home, in the Sussex countryside. 112 01:08:05,195 --> 01:08:06,196 Hello, Mr Khan . 113 01:08:08,531 --> 01:08:11,409 [Alan] It's David Gilmour's musical laboratory. 114 01:08:15,580 --> 01:08:18,208 So, explain to me what happens here. 115 01:08:18,541 --> 01:08:23,630 [David] Well , this, as you can see, this is a music room , and this has been 116 01:08:23,797 --> 01:08:27,759 developing, you could call it, over 21 years we've been here. 117 01:08:28,051 --> 01:08:29,886 The last album , On an lsland, 118 01:08:30,220 --> 01:08:33,765 and a lot of the stuff for this new album , Rattle That Lock, 119 01:08:33,974 --> 01:08:39,229 were started in here, with me doing everything. 120 01:08:39,688 --> 01:08:43,608 So, when you're starting to build the track, you start... 121 01:08:43,858 --> 01:08:45,777 Obviously, you've got your guitar, 122 01:08:46,653 --> 01:08:48,363 -you know, plenty of them . -Yep! 123 01:08:48,530 --> 01:08:52,284 And then , drums if you need to, your sax if you need to, 124 01:08:52,367 --> 01:08:56,579 you also play all these instruments, the mandolin you play, I mean ... 125 01:08:56,663 --> 01:08:59,582 I'm really bad at quite a lot of instruments, yes. 126 01:08:59,666 --> 01:09:01,126 Good . That's useful , then ! 127 01:09:19,769 --> 01:09:21,938 David is continually 128 01:09:22,355 --> 01:09:26,318 jotting musical ideas, whether it's on an iPhone, minidisc. 129 01:09:27,027 --> 01:09:32,282 And then he will say, "Oh, I've got some stuff." 130 01:09:33,241 --> 01:09:34,659 And I say, "Oh, great, yeah." 131 01:09:34,743 --> 01:09:37,620 "Well , you know, about 1 50 or 200. . ." 132 01:09:37,912 --> 01:09:39,122 "Oh, no!" 133 01:09:41,249 --> 01:09:45,503 This song, Today, came from several pieces of music. 134 01:09:48,590 --> 01:09:52,594 -I just found that sound on this. -Is that how it all started? 135 01:09:52,677 --> 01:09:55,889 That's how one part of it started , and I ... 136 01:09:57,265 --> 01:09:58,808 ... played that onto... 137 01:09:59,934 --> 01:10:02,812 onto the iPhone, and Phil found that 138 01:10:03,021 --> 01:10:05,732 and then he found a bit of me strumming a guitar. 139 01:10:05,982 --> 01:10:08,568 A completely separate bit. 140 01:10:09,152 --> 01:10:11,738 So that one became the beginning, which has got 141 01:10:11,863 --> 01:10:14,908 -me and Polly singing like a choir on it. -Oh, really? 142 01:10:21,456 --> 01:10:25,377 [Phil] I listen through, over a period of weeks, or whatever, 143 01:10:25,502 --> 01:10:28,129 and then I try and 144 01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:32,509 see if there's any, sort of, bits that would work with other bits. 145 01:10:32,759 --> 01:10:37,389 Not all of those are terribly successful , and maybe some of them scare him . 146 01:10:38,473 --> 01:10:40,558 But there's been a few that survived . 147 01:10:41,559 --> 01:10:45,230 So, this is a bit that I recorded on my iPhone. 148 01:10:45,397 --> 01:10:48,274 I was in a studio and had an electric guitar plugged in , 149 01:10:48,358 --> 01:10:50,944 but didn't want to turn the gear on and get everything running, 150 01:10:51,027 --> 01:10:53,363 and thought this is a nice thing, I'll remember it. 151 01:10:53,446 --> 01:10:55,865 So, I turned my phone on to... 152 01:10:58,034 --> 01:10:59,411 to remember it. 153 01:10:59,994 --> 01:11:02,580 And Phil found this bit just like this, 154 01:11:02,789 --> 01:11:05,041 and he stuck it together with the other thing. 155 01:11:08,503 --> 01:11:10,672 And then , you know, when you add all the instruments on ... 156 01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:21,808 I found it very hard to try and replicate that exactly 157 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,563 as it is with something about the rhythm of it and stuff, 158 01:11:27,564 --> 01:11:29,691 so we just used the original one. 159 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,789 [Alan] This is Polly, Polly Samson . 160 01:11:45,415 --> 01:11:48,585 She's learning guitar, level seven , apparently. 161 01:11:49,210 --> 01:11:51,546 She's an acclaimed author in her own right 162 01:11:52,380 --> 01:11:55,341 and she's David's partner in more ways than one. 163 01:12:02,557 --> 01:12:05,685 [David] Polly, my lovely wife, she is at the heart of everything we do. 164 01:12:05,768 --> 01:12:09,647 Don't know where to begin with Polly, she's my sort of partner in life 165 01:12:09,731 --> 01:12:13,276 and she writes most of the lyrics for my songs. 166 01:12:13,943 --> 01:12:18,490 Along with being a writer and a lyricist, 167 01:12:18,615 --> 01:12:21,451 she is a sounding board for all the stuff I do. 168 01:12:21,576 --> 01:12:24,454 I will play her things and she will voice her opinion 169 01:12:24,537 --> 01:12:26,289 and she'll be very astute 170 01:12:27,248 --> 01:12:32,378 in spotting things that maybe I haven't noticed , musically. 171 01:12:32,670 --> 01:12:37,133 And has been doing that since we did the Division Bell album . 172 01:12:48,853 --> 01:12:50,813 [Alan] Were you a Floyd fan yourself? 173 01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:55,652 [Polly] When I was 1 2, my brother had ... 174 01:12:56,319 --> 01:12:58,363 I think it was Dark Side of The Moon 175 01:12:59,489 --> 01:13:01,908 and Wish You Were Here, 176 01:13:02,033 --> 01:13:03,826 but they didn't have a band name on them . 177 01:13:04,118 --> 01:13:07,539 So, I remember I used to play them but I didn't know who they were by. 178 01:13:07,705 --> 01:13:09,874 So I don't think I ever wrote "Pink Floyd" on my pencil case. 179 01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:12,252 I wrote "David Bowie" on my pencil case. 180 01:13:13,670 --> 01:13:16,339 [Alan] When you met David for the first time, you didn't think, 181 01:13:16,422 --> 01:13:18,508 "Oh, this is David Gilmour, from Pink Floyd?" 182 01:13:18,633 --> 01:13:19,676 I don't think I did ... 183 01:13:19,759 --> 01:13:22,345 He was a man with lots of children , I think is what I thought. 184 01:13:22,971 --> 01:13:24,514 I mean , the first time I met him , 185 01:13:24,597 --> 01:13:27,433 he had four children and I had one child , 186 01:13:27,850 --> 01:13:31,771 and I think it was our children who kind of played with each other, 187 01:13:32,105 --> 01:13:34,566 and so, we kind of ended up at this nice day, 188 01:13:34,649 --> 01:13:36,776 lunch in the countryside, sort of sitting near each other 189 01:13:36,859 --> 01:13:38,987 because our children were trying to climb the same tree. 190 01:13:50,415 --> 01:13:52,875 [Alan] David is not someone who is loquacious, 191 01:13:52,959 --> 01:13:55,378 but he is very emotionally engaged , 192 01:13:55,461 --> 01:13:58,172 but he doesn't necessarily display that. 193 01:13:58,798 --> 01:14:02,719 Do you think that you're there partly to interpret what's going on in David's head? 194 01:14:02,802 --> 01:14:07,223 Yes, I think so. And that does feel like a huge responsibility. 195 01:14:07,849 --> 01:14:10,310 But then , I mean , the whole of marriage is a bit like that, 196 01:14:10,393 --> 01:14:15,064 isn't it? I mean , particularly with a partner who is quite silent. 197 01:14:15,231 --> 01:14:17,150 I mean , you know, he plays guitar a lot 198 01:14:17,233 --> 01:14:19,694 and I often think that if ever we were going to have an argument, 199 01:14:19,777 --> 01:14:21,946 the best way we could do it, would be for me to use words 200 01:14:22,030 --> 01:14:24,782 and for him to answer in guitar, because he's very eloquent, 201 01:14:24,866 --> 01:14:27,368 and emotionally eloquent with a guitar. 202 01:14:27,577 --> 01:14:30,663 So, yes, a lot of it is just trying to get under his skin 203 01:14:30,747 --> 01:14:32,707 and sort of feel what he's feeling. 204 01:14:36,919 --> 01:14:40,715 Okay, so here's a track recorded ten years ago 205 01:14:40,923 --> 01:14:42,467 for "The Girl in The Yellow Dress". 206 01:14:42,592 --> 01:14:44,552 It says it's got a guide vocal on here. 207 01:15:00,401 --> 01:15:03,863 [Alan] Was the process always the music first, 208 01:15:03,946 --> 01:15:08,618 -was he kind of humming to you in bed? -No, it's always music first. 209 01:15:09,661 --> 01:15:13,456 And he. . . Nowadays, he puts tracks on my iPod 210 01:15:13,581 --> 01:15:18,461 and I just walk up and down playing all the tracks and eventually, you know, 211 01:15:18,544 --> 01:15:20,838 one or two start to suggest things to me. 212 01:15:33,518 --> 01:15:36,187 That would be what Polly would have on her headphones 213 01:15:36,354 --> 01:15:39,190 and would be listening to when she wrote the lyrics. 214 01:15:39,315 --> 01:15:42,276 So that's really interesting, because you sort of feel 215 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,320 -it's almost got the words on it. -Yes. 216 01:15:44,404 --> 01:15:47,782 His scats really do sound like someone singing in tongues. 217 01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:51,285 It's as though the words are just, sort of, under the surface, 218 01:15:51,369 --> 01:15:53,746 and it's quite interpretative at that point. 219 01:16:13,725 --> 01:16:15,977 [Alan] Most people imagine that people writing lyrics 220 01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:17,687 would be sitting down at a table 221 01:16:17,770 --> 01:16:19,856 and crossing things out and writing things down . 222 01:16:19,981 --> 01:16:21,858 -Do you write anything down? -I ... 223 01:16:23,025 --> 01:16:25,611 It's a bit. . . Actually, it's the same for my fiction , 224 01:16:25,695 --> 01:16:28,239 I think that the work is done while I walk. 225 01:16:28,489 --> 01:16:32,785 By the time I get back to the house. . . it's practically like typing, 226 01:16:32,869 --> 01:16:35,955 because I . . . While walking I've kind of worked out what it is. 227 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,707 But I have a notebook... 228 01:16:40,084 --> 01:16:43,796 So this will be full of things that are not all to do with lyrics, but... 229 01:16:45,214 --> 01:16:49,552 Yeah, this was the start of Today, I think. 230 01:16:49,719 --> 01:16:52,805 It looks to me like "a wide Sargasso Sea of shit". 231 01:16:52,889 --> 01:16:55,308 Yes, I had written "a wide Sargasso Sea of shit"! 232 01:16:57,935 --> 01:17:00,062 I think it became something else in the song. 233 01:17:00,354 --> 01:17:02,899 I think it was a missing line, and I thought "I'll get to that line later". 234 01:17:03,024 --> 01:17:06,861 So I think I had written in the song "a wide Sargasso Sea of shit". 235 01:17:34,430 --> 01:17:37,058 [David] I wish I'd learnt the piano properly when I was young, 236 01:17:37,183 --> 01:17:39,936 and that I'd learnt to read music and could do all that stuff. 237 01:17:40,061 --> 01:17:41,312 Still can't read music. 238 01:17:43,231 --> 01:17:46,526 So, you just kind of know that your children 239 01:17:46,609 --> 01:17:49,403 will be grateful for having learnt piano, when they're adults. 240 01:17:49,737 --> 01:17:52,949 But they certainly aren't when they're young! It's just a chore. 241 01:17:53,825 --> 01:17:59,080 So, they've all had piano lessons until they were bored to tears 242 01:17:59,163 --> 01:18:02,542 and begged us to be allowed to stop. 243 01:18:06,295 --> 01:18:09,715 Now they are moving forward , learning things by themselves. 244 01:18:10,299 --> 01:18:13,135 It's terrific, they are thoroughly enjoying... 245 01:18:13,302 --> 01:18:17,723 Gabriel's piano playing, since he stopped having lessons, 246 01:18:17,807 --> 01:18:19,684 has gone from strength to strength 247 01:18:20,142 --> 01:18:22,562 and is in fact playing on one of the songs on the album . 248 01:18:23,312 --> 01:18:26,774 Purely because he's the right person to be doing that job. 249 01:18:27,817 --> 01:18:30,403 Romany has picked up the ukulele entirely on her own , 250 01:18:30,486 --> 01:18:33,990 and play a number of chords, and will happily sing anything. 251 01:18:34,073 --> 01:18:38,077 She's got a really nice voice, you know, with a bit of huskiness to it. 252 01:18:38,828 --> 01:18:41,330 Nice low-register voice, lovely. 253 01:18:41,497 --> 01:18:45,918 Joe is into science and mathematics and is excited by those things 254 01:18:46,002 --> 01:18:50,131 and has got a fantastic direct, linear mind that 255 01:18:50,548 --> 01:18:52,925 looks to see if there's a better way of doing things, 256 01:18:53,092 --> 01:18:55,052 which will stand him in very good stead . 257 01:18:55,845 --> 01:18:57,722 They don't want to be musicians 258 01:18:58,347 --> 01:18:59,932 and I don't know if they'll change, 259 01:19:00,141 --> 01:19:03,477 and I wouldn't dream of influencing that in any way. 260 01:19:04,395 --> 01:19:08,107 Gabriel wants to be a set designer, maybe an actor as well . 261 01:19:08,190 --> 01:19:09,775 Romany definitely wants to be an actor. 262 01:19:34,258 --> 01:19:36,844 I used this on "Breathe ", 263 01:19:36,928 --> 01:19:40,681 and on "Great Gig in The Sky", on Dark Side of The Moon , this one. 264 01:19:41,307 --> 01:19:43,351 -This machine. -This actual one, yeah, 265 01:19:43,434 --> 01:19:46,687 and have used it ever since, occasionally. 266 01:19:48,064 --> 01:19:51,400 When was. . . Your first guitar... 267 01:19:53,194 --> 01:19:55,196 Were you yet in your teens or not? 268 01:19:55,279 --> 01:19:58,491 [David] My next-door neighbour had a guitar, was given a guitar, 269 01:19:58,574 --> 01:20:00,242 he was completely non-musical . 270 01:20:00,326 --> 01:20:03,204 -I borrowed it and played it for a while. -[Alan] How old were you? 271 01:20:03,412 --> 01:20:08,250 Probably 1 2, 1 3, and I think I gave it back to him a couple of times 272 01:20:08,417 --> 01:20:10,836 and then I borrowed it again , and thought, "Oh, never mind". 273 01:20:11,003 --> 01:20:12,296 And he never asked for it back. 274 01:20:12,964 --> 01:20:14,173 -I kept it. -You stole it. 275 01:20:14,256 --> 01:20:15,383 Basically, yeah. 276 01:20:28,562 --> 01:20:32,650 My parents moved to America permanently when I was 1 8 or 1 9, 277 01:20:32,942 --> 01:20:37,488 and they lived in Greenwich Village, from 1 965, onwards. 278 01:20:37,571 --> 01:20:41,075 So, you know, they could see the end of Bleecker Street, out of their window. 279 01:20:41,784 --> 01:20:45,621 So, I mean , I got Bob Dylan's first record for my 1 6th birthday, 280 01:20:45,997 --> 01:20:48,499 which they sent me from Greenwich Village. 281 01:20:49,291 --> 01:20:52,503 Before then , they'd sent me Pete Seeger's guitar tutor record . 282 01:20:52,878 --> 01:20:55,965 Which is the. . . my only actual instruction 283 01:20:56,048 --> 01:20:58,092 was with the Pete Seeger guitar tutor record . 284 01:20:58,509 --> 01:21:02,638 [Pete Seeger] For most of us, playing a guitar can be about as simple as walking. 285 01:21:03,597 --> 01:21:06,934 Of course, remember it took us all a couple of years to learn how to walk... 286 01:21:07,101 --> 01:21:11,897 [David] There's an LP with a big book, with all the chord shapes you might need . 287 01:21:11,981 --> 01:21:16,736 It started out with a pitch pipe playing the six notes of a guitar, 288 01:21:16,861 --> 01:21:20,322 so, the most important thing was to learn how to tune it. 289 01:21:23,117 --> 01:21:24,577 [Pete Seeger] There, now we're in business. 290 01:21:24,660 --> 01:21:26,996 The second band was teaching you how to play a D chord , 291 01:21:27,079 --> 01:21:30,207 which is three fingers on the guitar, which you then strum . 292 01:21:30,374 --> 01:21:36,130 And then he sang some words, so you could do a song, instantly, 293 01:21:36,338 --> 01:21:37,757 with just one chord . 294 01:21:56,358 --> 01:21:58,277 So, from the beginning of learning the guitar 295 01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:59,862 I was learning singing as well . 296 01:22:01,363 --> 01:22:04,158 And singing is just as important to me. 297 01:22:06,911 --> 01:22:08,662 [Alan] That's your vinyl collection , is it? 298 01:22:08,788 --> 01:22:11,791 There's vinyl over there, well , it's mine and Polly's mixed together 299 01:22:12,041 --> 01:22:16,504 in a sort of, obsolete pile of tea chests and shelves. 300 01:22:18,672 --> 01:22:21,217 Loads of stuff here, going way, way back. 301 01:22:21,509 --> 01:22:25,012 That's the 1959 Newport Folk Festival , which I was given , 302 01:22:25,096 --> 01:22:27,348 on my 16th birthday, by my parents, 303 01:22:27,515 --> 01:22:31,727 who were in America at the time, along with Bob Dylan's first record , 304 01:22:31,811 --> 01:22:35,523 which I've. . . I think I've got somewhere but I can't find it anymore! 305 01:22:35,689 --> 01:22:37,817 So I've had these since my 16th birthday, 306 01:22:37,900 --> 01:22:41,695 as you can see by my youthful possessive writing on the back. 307 01:22:41,862 --> 01:22:47,785 I was very into folk music. . . Leon Bibb, some great people. 308 01:22:47,868 --> 01:22:50,496 And then you can go straight on to something like the Shangri-Las, 309 01:22:50,579 --> 01:22:53,624 you know, girl group in the '60s, early '60s. 310 01:22:53,791 --> 01:22:57,128 Produced by a guy called George 'Shadow' Morton , 311 01:22:57,419 --> 01:23:00,714 who painted aural pictures. 312 01:23:00,798 --> 01:23:04,009 I mean , "Remember (Walking in The Sand) ", 'rPast, Present and Future 'r, 313 01:23:04,093 --> 01:23:06,011 they are like movies. 314 01:23:13,894 --> 01:23:16,021 So is that where you got your interest 315 01:23:16,105 --> 01:23:19,942 in extra-natural sounds, or even unnatural sounds? 316 01:23:20,109 --> 01:23:24,321 It's the idea of creating a picture or something like a movie with 317 01:23:24,405 --> 01:23:28,492 the story that's being told that I love. 318 01:23:29,118 --> 01:23:31,537 Who were the guitarists who you ... 319 01:23:31,620 --> 01:23:33,789 Well , you talked about Pete Seeger, obviously. 320 01:23:33,956 --> 01:23:37,042 Pete Seeger, Leadbelly, I was very keen on at a very early age, 321 01:23:37,126 --> 01:23:39,795 1 2-string he played mostly, brilliant. 322 01:23:50,139 --> 01:23:54,685 You know, later, Hendrix, of course, Clapton , Joni Mitchell's guitar playing, 323 01:23:54,810 --> 01:23:59,648 her use of different guitar tunings was a big influence. 324 01:24:13,829 --> 01:24:15,623 -Another Side of Bob. . . -Yeah. 325 01:24:16,165 --> 01:24:18,417 The first Dylan album , just called Bob Dylan, 326 01:24:18,626 --> 01:24:23,631 was recorded in December '61 , and I got it in March '62, 327 01:24:23,839 --> 01:24:27,426 which was when it, probably, about a week after it came out in the States. 328 01:24:27,885 --> 01:24:29,386 That's pretty quick going, 329 01:24:29,678 --> 01:24:31,597 definitely long before it came out over here. 330 01:24:43,859 --> 01:24:45,986 When I went into the sixth form at school , 331 01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:48,948 the music teacher had given up doing music lessons by then 332 01:24:49,031 --> 01:24:50,699 for the sixth form , he just said to people, 333 01:24:50,783 --> 01:24:53,535 "Bring in a record , we'll play it and we'll talk about it." 334 01:24:54,370 --> 01:24:58,749 And so, I brought Bob Dylan's first record in . I absolutely loved it. 335 01:24:59,375 --> 01:25:00,417 Played it. 336 01:25:00,709 --> 01:25:01,669 Silence. 337 01:25:03,045 --> 01:25:04,922 I was the only one who liked it. 338 01:25:05,839 --> 01:25:07,549 I went to see him at the Festival Hall . 339 01:25:07,716 --> 01:25:09,677 At one point, he lost a harmonica. 340 01:25:10,594 --> 01:25:13,514 "Has anyone got a harmonica in C?" 341 01:25:13,973 --> 01:25:18,227 And half the audience came rushing to the front like this, with harmonicas. 342 01:25:40,291 --> 01:25:43,043 -Everyone went through that way. -We're going this way. 343 01:25:48,465 --> 01:25:50,301 -Just whatever. -Whatever... 344 01:25:52,469 --> 01:25:53,804 [David] Family is everything, 345 01:25:54,763 --> 01:25:59,643 and you have to devote time and yourself 346 01:26:00,477 --> 01:26:05,107 to raising children , if that's what you elect to do in your life. 347 01:26:10,779 --> 01:26:15,451 So, yeah, I'm loving my life with my family, raising these children . 348 01:26:15,659 --> 01:26:18,746 When I was a young man , ambition , 349 01:26:19,038 --> 01:26:23,417 the desire to be together with these other guys in a pop group, 350 01:26:23,625 --> 01:26:27,296 you're very driven and ambitious, otherwise you won't get anywhere. 351 01:26:27,546 --> 01:26:31,133 And I certainly was and I'm sure there's still vestiges of that 352 01:26:31,216 --> 01:26:35,137 of that sort of ambition still around , but I'm not as ambitious as I was. 353 01:26:35,721 --> 01:26:38,140 I've had that. It's been fantastic. 354 01:26:39,391 --> 01:26:42,644 I put just as much work and effort into making a record 355 01:26:43,103 --> 01:26:45,856 but I can prioritise my time better. 356 01:26:53,739 --> 01:26:54,823 Play Postman Pat. 357 01:27:07,711 --> 01:27:09,088 Please stop! 358 01:27:33,821 --> 01:27:37,408 [Polly]"ln Any Tongue '' came into the mix really late on 359 01:27:37,533 --> 01:27:42,830 and it was immediately clear what that song needed to be about. 360 01:27:43,163 --> 01:27:46,041 There isn't a day when one isn't affected by war. 361 01:28:38,594 --> 01:28:44,183 When I'm singing this sort of vocal , I try not to constrain myself 362 01:28:44,266 --> 01:28:47,186 and if consonants feel like coming out they do. 363 01:28:47,561 --> 01:28:49,104 Completely meaningless, you know. 364 01:28:51,106 --> 01:28:54,735 You say meaningless, you mean you've not given them 365 01:28:54,818 --> 01:28:59,114 any kind of status at all but they are something, obviously. 366 01:28:59,239 --> 01:29:02,367 There's something in there, I suppose you could say, trying to get out. 367 01:29:03,118 --> 01:29:06,747 And Polly is so brilliant at picking them out, but you can hear 368 01:29:07,039 --> 01:29:10,042 consonants that she's taken that were there, 369 01:29:11,043 --> 01:29:12,461 and put a proper word to. 370 01:29:12,544 --> 01:29:13,879 Anyway, we'll have a quick... 371 01:29:17,466 --> 01:29:19,801 What has he done ? 372 01:29:21,637 --> 01:29:23,472 God help our son... 373 01:29:24,139 --> 01:29:26,683 -Stay a while. . . -Yes. 374 01:29:31,522 --> 01:29:35,484 So, what's it like, that first time that you hear, not the scat, 375 01:29:35,567 --> 01:29:37,069 -but the words? -That's the best... 376 01:29:37,194 --> 01:29:40,989 That's an incredibly. . . wonderful moment. 377 01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,408 It's really exciting and that is... 378 01:29:43,534 --> 01:29:47,246 It tends to be just the two of us, and , you know, I give him 379 01:29:47,329 --> 01:29:50,832 the sheet of paper, and he sticks it up, and sings it and ... 380 01:29:52,209 --> 01:29:55,879 Yeah, I think that is the most enjoyable moment of the whole thing. 381 01:29:57,005 --> 01:29:59,466 There's a very special guest joining us for the next song. 382 01:30:02,135 --> 01:30:03,929 This man gave me my first guitar 383 01:30:04,012 --> 01:30:06,515 and was also one of the first people to play in this venue. 384 01:30:06,807 --> 01:30:09,351 Please welcome Mr David Gilmour from Pink Floyd . 385 01:30:13,647 --> 01:30:15,399 Oh, my God ! 386 01:30:15,857 --> 01:30:17,985 [Jamie] Some of my earliest memories 387 01:30:18,151 --> 01:30:21,530 are staying at his and Polly's house in the countryside, 388 01:30:21,655 --> 01:30:24,575 and we'd kind of stay there for whole summers. 389 01:30:25,075 --> 01:30:28,704 And I guess I was too young, initially, to understand 390 01:30:29,329 --> 01:30:32,040 who Pink Floyd were, or who he was. 391 01:30:32,332 --> 01:30:36,086 I guess he was just a friend of my parents, with a nice house! 392 01:30:36,587 --> 01:30:38,297 This is crazy! 393 01:30:43,927 --> 01:30:47,180 He was the first person that told me I had a nice voice. 394 01:30:48,890 --> 01:30:52,060 Which I probably didn't appreciate at the time, 395 01:30:52,144 --> 01:30:54,563 but looking back, that was pretty cool . 396 01:31:06,575 --> 01:31:08,910 We have a very young fan base. 397 01:31:09,077 --> 01:31:13,040 I nitially, I was a bit worried that all these 1 6-year-olds 398 01:31:13,123 --> 01:31:16,084 would have no idea who he was. 399 01:31:16,209 --> 01:31:18,337 But as soon as he walked on stage, 400 01:31:18,754 --> 01:31:22,007 I just have this very vivid memory of this 1 6-year-old boy 401 01:31:22,090 --> 01:31:25,886 in the front row, like, tears streaming down his face with happiness. 402 01:31:26,595 --> 01:31:29,723 We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl ... 403 01:31:29,806 --> 01:31:33,560 When we were actually learning the song, I went on YouTube to look up 404 01:31:33,644 --> 01:31:36,647 a live version to see how he'd done it live in the past, 405 01:31:36,730 --> 01:31:39,441 and the first thing that came up was him and my dad 406 01:31:39,650 --> 01:31:41,735 playing it at the Royal Festival Hall . 407 01:31:41,818 --> 01:31:43,612 It had something like 20 million views 408 01:31:43,695 --> 01:31:46,615 and it suddenly all felt quite familial 409 01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:48,909 and circular in some way, 410 01:31:48,992 --> 01:31:51,620 that my dad had done it and now I was doing it. 411 01:32:01,171 --> 01:32:04,633 Pretty much everyone on my dad's side in the family is a musician . 412 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,886 He's a guitarist called Neill MacColl , and his parents were 413 01:32:07,969 --> 01:32:12,641 were Ewan MacColl the folk singer and Peggy Seeger, also a folk singer. 414 01:32:14,017 --> 01:32:16,311 And her brother was Pete Seeger. 415 01:32:17,896 --> 01:32:22,984 And strangely, I think David actually learned to play guitar initially 416 01:32:23,068 --> 01:32:28,073 by listening to these instructional records that Pete Seeger had made. 417 01:32:29,950 --> 01:32:33,787 So, yeah, it's all connected in some strange way, I think. 418 01:32:50,554 --> 01:32:55,517 -So, here we are, rehearsal room . -So, there's a lot of stuff here. 419 01:32:56,351 --> 01:32:59,604 [David] Well , this is basically pretty much what we have on stage. 420 01:33:00,147 --> 01:33:02,274 We all have our full sort of stage kit. 421 01:33:02,357 --> 01:33:04,651 [Alan] Are you going to take all these on tour when you go? 422 01:33:04,860 --> 01:33:06,862 [David] Yes, all these things come with me. 423 01:33:09,698 --> 01:33:10,782 Okay, let's... 424 01:33:11,074 --> 01:33:12,534 Jon , would you play it off the thing, 425 01:33:12,617 --> 01:33:16,204 'cause I can't really remember what I should be doing. 426 01:33:21,668 --> 01:33:23,503 Start. . . Just play it again , yeah. 427 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,889 Trying to remember these fucking chords. 428 01:33:45,358 --> 01:33:46,985 Without forgetting the words all the time 429 01:33:47,068 --> 01:33:49,404 or forgetting what I'm supposed to be playing, all the time, 430 01:33:49,613 --> 01:33:53,742 and gradually, as you relax into it, you get more, and more close 431 01:33:54,493 --> 01:33:56,369 to what you're doing, but I'm constantly, 432 01:33:56,453 --> 01:33:58,246 I'm listening to what everyone else is doing, 433 01:33:58,371 --> 01:34:01,124 trying to, say, remember to say this at the end . 434 01:34:01,500 --> 01:34:05,212 Or I just stop and we do it. And I have all the lyrics here. 435 01:34:05,295 --> 01:34:07,881 All of these I need to know by the time we get going. 436 01:34:08,507 --> 01:34:09,633 I have... 437 01:34:09,716 --> 01:34:14,513 "Shine on You Crazy Diamond", I have a bit of a mental block about that, 438 01:34:14,596 --> 01:34:16,431 so that is here. 439 01:34:16,681 --> 01:34:19,559 And that sits on the floor during every show, 440 01:34:19,893 --> 01:34:21,686 with the start of the lines, 441 01:34:21,770 --> 01:34:23,814 so I get the right lines in the right order. 442 01:34:24,481 --> 01:34:30,070 For some reason , I can remember 50 songs word perfect all the way through, 443 01:34:30,153 --> 01:34:31,446 and I have a rotten memory. 444 01:34:31,905 --> 01:34:34,866 Got that on the F. One, two, three, four. 445 01:34:52,843 --> 01:34:56,471 Great. Much better without me playing. Okay? 446 01:35:27,335 --> 01:35:30,505 [Polly]"Rattle That Lock" came out of the work that I'd done 447 01:35:30,589 --> 01:35:32,841 for the last book I wrote, which was a novel called The Kindness, 448 01:35:32,966 --> 01:35:35,635 because the main character in the novel is a student of Milton . 449 01:35:35,719 --> 01:35:39,806 I knew that I wanted to write a song about the need to protest 450 01:35:39,890 --> 01:35:42,475 and I suddenly remembered Book Two of Paradise Lost 451 01:35:42,559 --> 01:35:45,270 and Satan's heroic journey, to go and challenge God . 452 01:35:45,353 --> 01:35:48,481 And I thought, well , that would work really well . 453 01:35:48,690 --> 01:35:50,483 Within that is everything I want to say. 454 01:35:50,567 --> 01:35:53,486 And I ran back and picked up the book, and there it was, 455 01:35:53,570 --> 01:35:55,864 and it was a huge, huge help. 456 01:35:56,114 --> 01:35:58,575 It's a sort of, not exactly a call to arms, 457 01:35:58,658 --> 01:36:01,661 but it's encouraging people to stand up for themselves, 458 01:36:03,038 --> 01:36:04,539 and shake it about a bit. 459 01:36:20,722 --> 01:36:22,057 OK, let's do "Today". 460 01:36:22,557 --> 01:36:25,018 Just to cheer ourselves up, then we can fuck off. 461 01:36:34,319 --> 01:36:35,487 Do we stay up? 462 01:36:51,670 --> 01:36:52,587 Do that. 463 01:37:23,660 --> 01:37:25,662 [Alan] Way back, when you were living in Cambridge, 464 01:37:25,745 --> 01:37:27,580 that's when you met Syd Barrett, isn't it? 465 01:37:27,831 --> 01:37:31,501 [David] Well , there was an art school for kids in Homerton College. 466 01:37:31,626 --> 01:37:36,965 They ran for, I guess, five-year-olds and above, or six-year-olds and above, 467 01:37:37,090 --> 01:37:39,134 they ran art classes on a Saturday morning. 468 01:37:39,968 --> 01:37:43,805 And I went to that until the age of 11 , and , apparently, 469 01:37:43,888 --> 01:37:45,932 I didn't know it at the time because I didn't know them , 470 01:37:46,099 --> 01:37:49,394 both Syd and Roger were in the same class, in the same room as me, 471 01:37:49,644 --> 01:37:51,896 for probably three or four years. 472 01:37:52,147 --> 01:37:55,233 But I got to know Syd when I was about 1 4 or 1 5, 473 01:37:55,316 --> 01:37:57,068 which is three or four years after that. 474 01:37:58,028 --> 01:38:02,490 We both went to the Cambridge Tech. I was there doing A Level languages. 475 01:38:03,074 --> 01:38:08,455 And Syd was doing arts, and we would meet in the art school , every lunchtime. 476 01:38:08,621 --> 01:38:11,332 What was Syd like at that time and that age? 477 01:38:11,583 --> 01:38:15,462 [David] Syd was just. . . Had a real , real magnetic personality. 478 01:38:15,754 --> 01:38:18,965 And a spring in his step and a glint in his eye. 479 01:38:19,549 --> 01:38:22,010 And was very, very sharp and very, very funny. 480 01:38:23,344 --> 01:38:26,598 Everyone wanted to be friends with Syd . Me included . 481 01:38:29,017 --> 01:38:33,480 [Alan] By then , musically, did you have any sense what your destiny was? 482 01:38:33,563 --> 01:38:34,939 What you wanted to do with your life? 483 01:38:35,023 --> 01:38:37,400 [David] By the time it got to taking my A Levels... 484 01:38:38,068 --> 01:38:40,945 I think I had pretty much decided what I wanted to do. 485 01:38:41,488 --> 01:38:45,533 And I thought that if I passed my A Levels, 486 01:38:47,702 --> 01:38:50,872 there'd be no way out, and I'd have to go off to university, 487 01:38:51,414 --> 01:38:55,794 and the moment for my rock and roll career might pass. 488 01:38:56,377 --> 01:38:59,005 So, I stopped going to the exams. 489 01:38:59,422 --> 01:39:02,675 -You just stopped , did you? -Yeah, in the middle of the A Levels... 490 01:39:03,218 --> 01:39:06,888 -For fear that you might pass. -Yeah. Essentially. 491 01:39:12,894 --> 01:39:19,526 [David] I've heard people saying that they got into popular music 492 01:39:19,609 --> 01:39:24,447 because of the girls, the drugs, all the rest of it. 493 01:39:24,572 --> 01:39:30,745 But I . . . Having thought about that, I think that it was definitely the music 494 01:39:30,954 --> 01:39:37,127 that was the absolute main priority for why I got into it. 495 01:39:38,795 --> 01:39:42,090 [Alan] And when was the first move into performance? 496 01:39:42,340 --> 01:39:44,300 I suppose when I was 1 7 or 1 8. 497 01:39:44,384 --> 01:39:49,139 I started . . . joined a band or two, you know. 498 01:39:50,181 --> 01:39:53,101 You sort of flit in the door, and out of the door very quickly. 499 01:39:53,935 --> 01:39:56,563 One or two bands, an early one was called Newcomers. 500 01:39:57,981 --> 01:40:02,235 Then after that, I met some other people who wanted to do something more ambitious 501 01:40:02,735 --> 01:40:05,864 And we formed what became Jokers Wild . 502 01:40:06,156 --> 01:40:10,994 We did a lot of harmony music, Beach Boys, The Four Seasons, 503 01:40:11,286 --> 01:40:14,497 and we did your regular R&B, the Stones numbers, 504 01:40:14,581 --> 01:40:17,792 Beatles numbers, and there were five of us and we could all sing. 505 01:40:18,042 --> 01:40:20,044 [Alan] How did you keep pace with what was happening, 506 01:40:20,128 --> 01:40:22,964 -if you were doing all these covers? -It was competitive covering. 507 01:40:24,841 --> 01:40:28,511 A new Beatles record , for example, would come out, and we'd rush down 508 01:40:28,595 --> 01:40:30,096 to Millers Music Store 509 01:40:30,471 --> 01:40:33,099 and we'd gather together in one of the little booths. 510 01:40:33,183 --> 01:40:36,186 They used to have those stand-up booths where you could fit 511 01:40:36,269 --> 01:40:38,188 three people in like that, listening to a single, 512 01:40:38,271 --> 01:40:40,815 but they also, at Millers, had bigger room booths 513 01:40:40,899 --> 01:40:42,400 which were about six foot by six foot, 514 01:40:42,483 --> 01:40:44,110 and you could get four or five people in , 515 01:40:44,194 --> 01:40:46,029 and you could listen to a whole LP. 516 01:40:46,613 --> 01:40:50,408 And we would listen to a whole brand-new Beatles LP 517 01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:56,831 and we'd be writing the words down and making notes on the chords 518 01:40:56,956 --> 01:40:59,292 and stuff as it went through and we'd try to get them 519 01:40:59,417 --> 01:41:00,752 to play it to us again . 520 01:41:00,919 --> 01:41:04,756 And if the serving girls were in a good mood , 521 01:41:04,839 --> 01:41:08,593 or, you smiled at them nicely, they might play it a second time. 522 01:41:09,093 --> 01:41:12,597 And then , while you're setting up for a gig that night, 523 01:41:12,805 --> 01:41:16,100 you'd rehearse one or two of the ones that seemed easiest, 524 01:41:16,184 --> 01:41:18,937 and you'd got to know well , and then you could announce, 525 01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:24,859 you know, over your PA, "And this is one, a song called such and such, 526 01:41:24,943 --> 01:41:28,947 from the new Beatles album , which is out today". And it was... 527 01:41:30,031 --> 01:41:32,659 You know, it would be massively exciting, 528 01:41:33,493 --> 01:41:35,453 to play a really bad rendition 529 01:41:35,536 --> 01:41:37,372 with all the wrong words, and all the wrong chords, 530 01:41:37,455 --> 01:41:41,125 but all you could manage to pick up in one, maybe two listens. 531 01:41:41,709 --> 01:41:44,254 Can we hear some of Jokers Wild? Have you got any... 532 01:41:45,755 --> 01:41:47,757 You can hear a bit of my embarrassment. 533 01:41:48,007 --> 01:41:53,972 This is me singing a cover of a song by Manfred Mann . 534 01:42:18,413 --> 01:42:21,749 Oh, yeah, Four Seasons, three by then . 535 01:42:29,882 --> 01:42:33,511 Focusing on this popular stuff, dissecting it, 536 01:42:33,594 --> 01:42:35,805 and working out how all the harmonies work, 537 01:42:36,431 --> 01:42:40,935 how all the instrumentation was done and how it was produced , 538 01:42:41,436 --> 01:42:43,771 this is my musical education , really. 539 01:42:45,273 --> 01:42:51,362 My parents came to shows. I mean , they would drive me to things, you know, 540 01:42:51,446 --> 01:42:54,365 in the early days when I couldn't get myself to places. 541 01:42:54,532 --> 01:43:00,913 Sometimes they even towed a cart full of equipment on a trailer to gigs. 542 01:43:02,123 --> 01:43:05,668 And they became big fans, you know. 543 01:43:06,252 --> 01:43:08,254 Couldn't get away from them later on ! 544 01:43:13,051 --> 01:43:16,637 [Alan] So, there was Jokers Wild and then , of course, there was Pink Floyd . 545 01:43:17,013 --> 01:43:20,475 [David] Jokers Wild had done a few gigs on the same bill 546 01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,311 with the early version of Pink Floyd . 547 01:43:23,519 --> 01:43:26,731 We played in a couple of art colleges in London 548 01:43:26,814 --> 01:43:29,400 and a couple of gigs in Cambridge, 549 01:43:29,484 --> 01:43:34,781 and we played in a marquee in Shelford , just outside Cambridge. 550 01:43:34,906 --> 01:43:38,576 And the bill was Jokers Wild , Pink Floyd and Paul Simon . 551 01:43:41,162 --> 01:43:42,288 [Alan] So, what next? 552 01:43:42,663 --> 01:43:44,624 After I packed up with Jokers Wild , 553 01:43:44,707 --> 01:43:48,544 I started moving between London and Cambridge a lot, 554 01:43:49,003 --> 01:43:52,673 and some people I ran into in London offered me a job 555 01:43:53,508 --> 01:43:56,386 with a band in a nightclub in Saint-Etienne in France. 556 01:43:56,511 --> 01:44:00,390 Then we just hung around in France for the best part of the next year. 557 01:44:00,515 --> 01:44:03,851 [Alan] And then , you lucky chap, you got to work with Brigitte Bardot. 558 01:44:04,102 --> 01:44:08,231 I went in and sang a couple of songs for a film soundtrack, 559 01:44:08,398 --> 01:44:10,108 which was called Two Weeks in September, 560 01:44:10,191 --> 01:44:12,735 which starred Mike Sarne and Brigitte Bardot. 561 01:44:13,194 --> 01:44:15,196 I've never heard them since. 562 01:44:16,072 --> 01:44:17,615 I hope you haven't found them . 563 01:44:18,032 --> 01:44:19,325 I think we may have done. 564 01:44:31,546 --> 01:44:32,964 I don't think they're dancing to this track at all , 565 01:44:33,047 --> 01:44:34,382 they're dancing at a different. . . Look. 566 01:44:40,388 --> 01:44:41,889 More questions 567 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:47,437 I just turned up at a studio in Paris, 568 01:44:49,105 --> 01:44:51,774 sang the words they put in front of me, and went home. 569 01:45:37,528 --> 01:45:40,948 [Alan] How did joining Floyd happen , because it was really to do partly with 570 01:45:41,365 --> 01:45:44,494 Syd's, sort of, inconsistency, or whatever you want to call it? 571 01:45:44,869 --> 01:45:51,834 Well , Syd , you know, I knew the guys from the Pink Floyd pretty well . 572 01:45:52,001 --> 01:45:56,130 I called Syd , and he invited me to go along to a recording session . 573 01:45:56,297 --> 01:45:58,049 They were recording "See Emily Play". 574 01:46:03,554 --> 01:46:05,473 -But he was very strange. -[Alan] How? 575 01:46:06,766 --> 01:46:08,976 [David] You know, the light had gone out of his eyes. 576 01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,229 He was monosyllabic and ... 577 01:46:12,730 --> 01:46:14,774 Yeah, it was very shocking. 578 01:46:16,234 --> 01:46:19,278 [Alan] So how did this transition . . . how did it happen? 579 01:46:19,362 --> 01:46:23,950 I went to see them playing at a party at the Royal College of Art, 580 01:46:24,033 --> 01:46:27,495 just next door to the Albert Hall , and at that party, 581 01:46:27,620 --> 01:46:31,624 which must have been November, maybe, Nick came up to me 582 01:46:31,707 --> 01:46:34,544 and said , whispered in my ear quietly, 583 01:46:35,419 --> 01:46:41,175 "If at some point soon , you know, we asked you to join , what would you say?" 584 01:46:42,927 --> 01:46:45,263 I said , "Well , I'd probably say yes." 585 01:46:47,181 --> 01:46:49,517 We did five gigs together as a five piece, 586 01:46:50,184 --> 01:46:53,938 which was pretty strange, I can tell you . 587 01:46:54,105 --> 01:46:58,943 And then , one day we were going to play, I think it was at Southampton University, 588 01:46:59,694 --> 01:47:02,822 with T Rex, and people, Tyrannosaurus Rex then , on the bill . 589 01:47:03,406 --> 01:47:06,909 And someone said , "Right, shall we go and pick up Syd?" 590 01:47:07,034 --> 01:47:08,536 And someone else said , "Nah." 591 01:47:08,869 --> 01:47:11,163 And we didn't, and that was the end of that, 592 01:47:11,956 --> 01:47:15,793 in that sort of wonderful , callous way that you have, 593 01:47:15,876 --> 01:47:17,962 when you're young and ambitious. 594 01:47:18,546 --> 01:47:20,047 Were you as bad as the others, then? 595 01:47:20,131 --> 01:47:23,009 I'm sure I was just as bad as the others, yes. 596 01:47:33,561 --> 01:47:36,814 We became gradually more and more successful . 597 01:47:36,897 --> 01:47:40,359 There was five years, really, from when I joined , 598 01:47:40,443 --> 01:47:41,611 to when Dark Side came out, 599 01:47:41,694 --> 01:47:45,740 which was when the sort of stratospheric leap happened . 600 01:47:57,501 --> 01:48:01,422 My mother threw herself into it, and loved every bit of it, and loved , 601 01:48:01,589 --> 01:48:08,429 you know, the so-called glamour of the life that I had taken on . 602 01:48:08,763 --> 01:48:10,389 My father less so. 603 01:48:11,599 --> 01:48:14,352 Only because it could have emasculated him a little bit. 604 01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,063 A serious scientist doing brilliant work 605 01:48:17,146 --> 01:48:21,484 but not earning anything like as much as his guitar-strumming son . 606 01:48:21,901 --> 01:48:26,572 And , the thrill my mother got out of that 607 01:48:26,947 --> 01:48:29,784 couldn't have been that nice for him at times, I think. 608 01:48:35,331 --> 01:48:37,958 -Can we run back and drop in a bit? -Yeah, you can if you like. 609 01:48:38,042 --> 01:48:39,043 Just turn it down a bit. 610 01:48:39,126 --> 01:48:41,587 I mean , I didn't really make a specific mistake, but... 611 01:48:42,046 --> 01:48:44,298 -Turn it down? -Yeah, my guitar's too loud . 612 01:48:44,590 --> 01:48:48,552 [Alan] And that working relationship, at that time, between you , and Roger, 613 01:48:48,636 --> 01:48:51,847 and Rick and everyone, how was that at that period? 614 01:48:52,056 --> 01:48:55,810 It was sort of a microcosm of what went on later. 615 01:48:56,352 --> 01:48:58,604 We all found our place in the hierarchy 616 01:48:59,313 --> 01:49:01,607 and made it work for ourselves, you know. 617 01:49:01,857 --> 01:49:03,651 [Alan] You call it a hierarchy? 618 01:49:03,984 --> 01:49:07,905 Well , it is. These things always have a hierarchy, I think. 619 01:49:08,823 --> 01:49:11,909 Roger at the top, me next, then Rick, then Nick, 620 01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:16,080 in terms of who did the most commanding, bossing of things around . 621 01:49:16,163 --> 01:49:21,711 But I felt that in my position that I was more the leader of the musical 622 01:49:22,545 --> 01:49:27,550 side of things, and Roger was definitely in terms of 623 01:49:27,633 --> 01:49:33,347 the lyric and the driving force, sort of. . . way it was. 624 01:49:33,514 --> 01:49:36,517 We have some pretty good arguments from time to time, yes. 625 01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:42,022 -And do you manage to get over them? -Yep, we're pretty durable. 626 01:49:43,733 --> 01:49:49,238 I never had that moment of thinking, no, I really am a part of this fully. 627 01:49:49,363 --> 01:49:54,118 I always thought that I was the new boy, and they enjoyed that. 628 01:49:55,369 --> 01:49:57,413 -They enjoyed playing on that. -[Alan] Really? 629 01:49:57,538 --> 01:50:01,542 Yes, but, you know, in that sort of jokey way that you do, you know. 630 01:50:02,209 --> 01:50:04,503 They would always tease me for being the new boy, 631 01:50:04,587 --> 01:50:06,839 even when I'd been in it for 20 years, you know. 632 01:50:08,716 --> 01:50:10,926 [Alan] And what about the next stage, you know, 633 01:50:11,010 --> 01:50:13,053 post Dark Side of The Moon, and Wish You Were Here, 634 01:50:13,137 --> 01:50:14,388 what happened after that? 635 01:50:14,638 --> 01:50:18,642 Well , that's ancient history, all that old , ancient Floyd history, 636 01:50:18,726 --> 01:50:20,561 the arguments, the fights and ... 637 01:50:21,896 --> 01:50:24,356 -Well , you get over it. -We did get... 638 01:50:24,440 --> 01:50:31,155 We did get on pretty well as work people, as work associates, 639 01:50:31,238 --> 01:50:34,325 if you want to call it that, throughout those years, 640 01:50:34,408 --> 01:50:38,245 but there were changes, you know, everyone's little problems, 641 01:50:39,079 --> 01:50:45,127 and dissatisfactions all started coming more and more to the fore. 642 01:50:46,086 --> 01:50:48,714 Boring. Let's move on to something else. 643 01:50:56,680 --> 01:51:01,519 [Alan] I n September 2009, David Gilmour's friend , and musical partner, 644 01:51:01,685 --> 01:51:06,524 Rick Wright, of Pink Floyd , sadly passed away after a long illness. 645 01:51:07,900 --> 01:51:10,402 Let's. . . let's do "A Boat Lies Waiting". 646 01:51:19,161 --> 01:51:21,539 [Polly] The first song to be written was 'rA Boat Lies Waiting'r. 647 01:51:21,956 --> 01:51:23,624 A beautiful piece of music, 648 01:51:23,707 --> 01:51:27,086 it was instantly suggestive of something to do with the sea. 649 01:51:27,670 --> 01:51:31,382 And . . . I went for a walk with it in my headphones 650 01:51:31,465 --> 01:51:34,176 and then I walked back and David was walking towards me, 651 01:51:34,260 --> 01:51:35,761 and I said , "Just come and sit on the beach with me, 652 01:51:35,845 --> 01:51:37,680 I just want to talk to you about this piece of music." 653 01:51:37,763 --> 01:51:40,933 And I said , "David , just try to put into words for me, 654 01:51:41,016 --> 01:51:42,476 what you think it's about." 655 01:51:43,018 --> 01:51:45,187 And he sort of stared off into the distance, 656 01:51:45,980 --> 01:51:50,109 and then he looked at me and said , "Well , I think it's about mortality." 657 01:51:50,192 --> 01:51:51,986 And what had just been happening was, 658 01:51:52,069 --> 01:51:54,530 he'd been trying to find other keyboard players 659 01:51:54,989 --> 01:51:59,702 and he'd come back having tried a few out, and say, "It's just not the same." 660 01:52:00,119 --> 01:52:03,247 And I think he realised , you know, really after Rick died , 661 01:52:03,330 --> 01:52:04,540 just what it was he'd lost. 662 01:52:04,623 --> 01:52:07,251 And so that then sort of mixed with this idea of the sea, 663 01:52:07,334 --> 01:52:10,796 and Rick spent most of his life on a boat, sailing the Atlantic. 664 01:52:11,171 --> 01:52:14,675 And so, the song became a song about David missing Rick. 665 01:52:15,759 --> 01:52:17,386 [David] This is the original recording. 666 01:52:23,976 --> 01:52:26,687 This is Gabriel making an appearance. 667 01:52:29,273 --> 01:52:32,735 So that dates this track to 1 997. 668 01:52:33,152 --> 01:52:35,946 'Cause that's Gabriel as a baby, and he was born in '97. 669 01:52:37,031 --> 01:52:38,449 [Alan] What made you put that in? 670 01:52:38,574 --> 01:52:40,576 -Did you add that later? -No, that was... 671 01:52:40,659 --> 01:52:41,785 That was here? 672 01:52:41,869 --> 01:52:44,079 That I did on a mini-disc, on the piano in the house. 673 01:52:44,288 --> 01:52:46,582 And you can hear people wandering around 674 01:52:46,749 --> 01:52:48,208 and crockery being washed up, and ... 675 01:52:54,757 --> 01:52:57,927 -And you've left all that on the track? -Yeah, it's all on . 676 01:53:04,308 --> 01:53:05,184 Anyway. 677 01:53:14,902 --> 01:53:20,449 On the last album , On an lsland, I managed to get David Crosby, 678 01:53:20,532 --> 01:53:23,452 and Graham Nash to sing on a couple of tracks from that, 679 01:53:23,535 --> 01:53:27,289 so I thought it would be great to get them in again , 680 01:53:27,373 --> 01:53:30,250 and to recreate their sound with me, 681 01:53:30,334 --> 01:53:32,169 'cause we seem to fit quite well together. 682 01:53:32,252 --> 01:53:37,299 And that big harmony thing is something I've always really loved . 683 01:54:15,754 --> 01:54:18,674 The first solo album that I did in 1 978, 684 01:54:18,841 --> 01:54:22,970 wasn't what I was going to be then , subsequently, doing as my career. 685 01:54:23,095 --> 01:54:29,768 It was something to fill in a bit of loose-end time, and to have some fun . 686 01:54:29,852 --> 01:54:30,978 Oh, look, mushrooms. 687 01:54:41,113 --> 01:54:43,741 That was to take a simpler approach, 688 01:54:43,824 --> 01:54:48,120 just go with a couple of old friends and just play some songs 689 01:54:48,328 --> 01:54:51,540 and have a bit of fun and see what happened . 690 01:54:53,083 --> 01:54:56,295 I mean , these things were really off the cuff, just sit me down , 691 01:54:57,087 --> 01:54:59,006 play around a bit and say, "Right, record ." 692 01:54:59,339 --> 01:55:03,010 But the last thing I did was what became 'rComfortably Numb 'r. 693 01:55:03,385 --> 01:55:06,722 We didn't have time to work on it any more, 694 01:55:07,306 --> 01:55:12,227 and it was still around when we got to starting The Wall the next year. 695 01:55:14,980 --> 01:55:18,108 [Alan] So, this is the original recording? 696 01:55:18,692 --> 01:55:19,610 Yeah. 697 01:55:41,799 --> 01:55:44,843 [David] Wow, I'd forgotten I'd written words. . . of some sort. 698 01:55:49,473 --> 01:55:50,641 Ran out of... 699 01:56:16,875 --> 01:56:18,127 Getting used to that now? 700 01:56:18,335 --> 01:56:19,878 -Yeah. -It's good , isn't it? 701 01:56:20,129 --> 01:56:21,797 It's great. It sounds amazing, I love it. 702 01:56:24,883 --> 01:56:25,801 I actually... 703 01:56:25,884 --> 01:56:29,638 I wrote "Comfortably Numb '' on that. . . on that guitar, with that tuning. 704 01:56:29,721 --> 01:56:31,640 -On this guitar? I'll call this an honour! -Yeah. 705 01:56:36,854 --> 01:56:41,108 [Alan] Do you think that your solo songs draw on a more emotional side of yourself? 706 01:56:44,570 --> 01:56:46,613 That's hard to say, I don't know. 707 01:56:48,949 --> 01:56:50,826 Not yet. Wait. 708 01:56:55,914 --> 01:56:56,957 Somewhere round here. 709 01:57:01,378 --> 01:57:05,716 [Polly] His emotional centre is musical , it isn't... 710 01:57:05,799 --> 01:57:09,720 You know, most of us express our anger, love, hate, 711 01:57:09,803 --> 01:57:11,930 whatever it is, we express it in words, 712 01:57:12,181 --> 01:57:15,893 and David really, really doesn't, but he does express it musically. 713 01:57:15,976 --> 01:57:18,187 And I don't know what came first. 714 01:57:18,353 --> 01:57:21,732 You know, did the language part of his brain not evolve 715 01:57:21,815 --> 01:57:23,901 because the musical part of his brain was so busy, 716 01:57:23,984 --> 01:57:27,446 or was he just born with a brain that worked in that way? 717 01:57:27,529 --> 01:57:31,283 It's really hard to know, but it's certainly true that emotion , 718 01:57:31,992 --> 01:57:34,036 for him , is expressed musically. 719 01:57:34,995 --> 01:57:36,455 [David] Every once in a while, 720 01:57:36,830 --> 01:57:42,336 an idea will force its way to the surface of my mind 721 01:57:42,669 --> 01:57:47,049 that I will try to write a lyric, or song about, 722 01:57:47,507 --> 01:57:51,178 but I've got no way of predicting where that's going to go in the future. 723 01:57:51,345 --> 01:57:54,848 I keep thinking that there is a little door, 724 01:57:54,932 --> 01:57:59,353 and a little key that would . . . That I could open 725 01:57:59,436 --> 01:58:02,272 and I would suddenly find a way that would make it 726 01:58:02,397 --> 01:58:06,193 slightly simpler for me to move those things forward and to find them ... 727 01:58:07,194 --> 01:58:13,033 because there's plenty to write about but I haven't yet really pinned that down . 728 01:58:16,203 --> 01:58:19,957 [Alan] You wrote the lyrics for 'rFaces of Stone 'r yourself, didn't you? 729 01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:21,708 -Yes. -What prompted it? 730 01:58:21,917 --> 01:58:27,089 "Faces of Stone '' was prompted by a memory of a day walking 731 01:58:27,172 --> 01:58:30,467 in Ladbroke Gardens with my mother, 732 01:58:30,759 --> 01:58:33,095 when she was suffering from dementia. 733 01:58:33,387 --> 01:58:37,015 And she. . . As we were walking through the trees, 734 01:58:37,099 --> 01:58:39,810 under the trees and the hedge, she was saying, "Oh, isn't it lovely?" 735 01:58:40,102 --> 01:58:45,148 She could see pictures that weren't there, hanging in the trees. 736 01:58:45,732 --> 01:58:49,653 That was the moment that sparked it off and I had a line that went, 737 01:58:49,736 --> 01:58:50,904 "Faces of stone... 738 01:58:53,740 --> 01:58:57,327 that watch from the dark as the wind swirled around , 739 01:58:57,411 --> 01:58:58,954 and you took my arm in the park". 740 01:58:59,621 --> 01:59:06,086 So, it's basically about my mother's decline and , you know, 741 01:59:06,169 --> 01:59:08,338 the ending of one life and the beginning of another, 742 01:59:08,463 --> 01:59:12,509 'cause Romany was born nine months before my mother died , 743 01:59:12,592 --> 01:59:18,265 so there was a short period where they were both alive together, and ... 744 01:59:20,851 --> 01:59:22,936 She came back to our house 745 01:59:23,854 --> 01:59:26,857 and held Romany in her arms as a tiny baby. 746 01:59:27,941 --> 01:59:29,359 And I have a picture of that. 747 01:59:29,609 --> 01:59:33,196 And so, the moment in the park, which is a mental picture, 748 01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:35,949 and the picture I have of her holding Romany in her arms, 749 01:59:36,074 --> 01:59:38,452 sparked a little thing which became that lyric. 750 01:59:39,953 --> 01:59:42,956 So this is some of what became 'rFaces of Stone 'r. 751 01:59:43,790 --> 01:59:50,130 This has got the original vocal that I did on my iPhone late one night, 752 01:59:50,839 --> 01:59:53,884 which is where the lyric spark came from . 753 02:00:41,890 --> 02:00:45,477 I suppose when you write a song about something specific, 754 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,771 that has got some emotional content, 755 02:00:47,854 --> 02:00:52,734 I mean , that one, "Faces of Stone ", that is related to my mother 756 02:00:52,818 --> 02:00:59,449 and her declining years, yeah, there's an emotional thing in there. 757 02:00:59,533 --> 02:01:04,079 I mean , our relationship was very difficult and tricky and ... 758 02:01:06,373 --> 02:01:08,959 It's good at the moment, right now, 759 02:01:09,042 --> 02:01:12,045 to be putting that back into a slightly different perspective. 760 02:01:15,257 --> 02:01:17,509 Trying to find the affection that was there. 761 02:01:17,801 --> 02:01:22,305 I must have loved her, but a lot of the time, it didn't feel like I did . 762 02:01:24,224 --> 02:01:27,519 -[Alan] Do you miss her? -[David] Do I miss my mother? I ... 763 02:01:28,770 --> 02:01:30,063 No. 764 02:01:32,774 --> 02:01:35,652 No, I don't miss her, I don't think, no. 765 02:01:38,947 --> 02:01:41,658 It wasn't a closely-knit, emotional type family, 766 02:01:41,992 --> 02:01:47,873 and when my mother wanted to be closer, when she was getting old , 767 02:01:48,123 --> 02:01:51,084 I found it difficult to deal with, I just... 768 02:01:51,877 --> 02:01:55,338 wanted her to, "Get off, get off, leave me alone." 769 02:01:57,757 --> 02:02:00,093 Now is not the time to be trying to do this. 770 02:02:00,218 --> 02:02:03,555 The time to be doing that stuff was when I was five. 771 02:02:24,075 --> 02:02:27,120 [Alan] It's just days away from his first live show 772 02:02:27,454 --> 02:02:33,293 and David and the band are catching up, rehearsing new songs, and old . 773 02:02:50,644 --> 02:02:54,231 Tell me about playing live, because you haven't played live for a while. 774 02:02:54,314 --> 02:02:58,109 -Do you enjoy the experience of playing? -Yes, it's terrific. 775 02:02:58,235 --> 02:03:00,487 It's almost like a completely different thing though, 776 02:03:00,612 --> 02:03:03,657 to recording in the studio where you slave away, 777 02:03:03,740 --> 02:03:07,327 hermit-like for years and years, perfecting little things. 778 02:03:07,744 --> 02:03:10,664 This, you have to do the work in this rehearsal room , 779 02:03:10,747 --> 02:03:14,334 getting it as good as you can get it, but then you bash it out, 780 02:03:14,501 --> 02:03:20,674 and mistakes don't matter, as long as you get the right overall feel 781 02:03:21,132 --> 02:03:26,179 and excitement and emotional depth to what you're doing. 782 02:03:26,471 --> 02:03:29,766 The performance is a great part of it. 783 02:03:50,287 --> 02:03:54,958 There's a lot that he has to do to be the frontman on this show. 784 02:03:55,417 --> 02:03:58,712 It's a big job being David Gilmour! 785 02:04:03,842 --> 02:04:05,385 [Alan] And here we are in Croatia. 786 02:04:05,552 --> 02:04:08,179 Never played in Croatia before, never been here, 787 02:04:08,263 --> 02:04:10,890 but. . . the Romans got everywhere. 788 02:04:11,891 --> 02:04:13,351 -Beautiful , isn't it? -It is. 789 02:04:16,896 --> 02:04:18,273 How did you find this place? 790 02:04:18,732 --> 02:04:22,819 Well , I set my team off to find me beautiful places, you know. 791 02:04:23,361 --> 02:04:27,198 I just think it's fantastic for people's memories of an event 792 02:04:27,449 --> 02:04:33,872 to be something special , not be just another sports arena or stadium , you know. 793 02:04:34,414 --> 02:04:36,207 They're going to go away again afterwards, 794 02:04:36,416 --> 02:04:38,376 assuming I do a reasonably good show, 795 02:04:38,668 --> 02:04:41,004 they're going to go away, and they're going to remember it. 796 02:04:41,379 --> 02:04:43,757 Partly because of the place and the setting they're in . 797 02:04:44,090 --> 02:04:45,717 [Alan] And from here, you go... 798 02:04:46,092 --> 02:04:48,678 [David] From here we're off to Italy, and then off to France, 799 02:04:48,762 --> 02:04:51,264 and then off to Germany. And then we'll be back to London , 800 02:04:51,556 --> 02:04:54,684 where we'll do some more dates at the Albert Hall . 801 02:04:54,851 --> 02:04:57,395 And then , we'll have a little break 802 02:04:58,146 --> 02:05:02,692 and after this school term is over, we'll head to South America. 803 02:05:02,859 --> 02:05:05,111 [Alan] The school term comes in the middle of it, 804 02:05:05,195 --> 02:05:06,863 because you've got to be in London for the school term . 805 02:05:06,946 --> 02:05:10,450 I want to be around and not be too absent. 806 02:05:11,159 --> 02:05:13,036 I've had my moment, you know, 807 02:05:13,244 --> 02:05:16,331 of doing all those things, and letting my career come first, 808 02:05:16,456 --> 02:05:20,710 but, I'm established , I think, aren't I? 809 02:05:20,794 --> 02:05:21,670 Yeah! 810 02:05:22,128 --> 02:05:26,758 [Alan] There are some performers for whom the crowd is incredibly important, 811 02:05:26,841 --> 02:05:29,969 but I sense that it's not just about the excitement of the crowd , 812 02:05:30,053 --> 02:05:33,139 it's more about the moment and the music. 813 02:05:33,348 --> 02:05:36,643 It is, well , we try very hard to get the music really... 814 02:05:37,477 --> 02:05:39,229 heartfelt when we do it. 815 02:05:39,396 --> 02:05:43,650 But you can never get above sort of 70ojo or something without an audience. 816 02:05:43,983 --> 02:05:45,652 Whatever you do in rehearsal , 817 02:05:45,860 --> 02:05:50,031 there's a whole massive lift of gear when there's an audience, 818 02:05:50,156 --> 02:05:52,033 for everyone, and for me definitely. 819 02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:55,370 It's likely to be slightly less perfect, but more fun . 820 02:08:06,417 --> 02:08:07,460 Okay. 821 02:08:22,308 --> 02:08:24,853 Guard the meat, don't eat the meat. 822 02:08:24,978 --> 02:08:26,813 "I'll guard it in my stomach very well ." 823 02:08:29,524 --> 02:08:31,401 There's potato salad over here. 824 02:08:35,655 --> 02:08:39,659 [David] I'm a control freak. I confess, I can't do anything about it. 825 02:08:40,159 --> 02:08:44,873 I try to stop, but I just am that person who... 826 02:08:45,707 --> 02:08:47,333 does want to man the barbecue, 827 02:08:47,500 --> 02:08:50,670 and does want to light the fire, and do all those things. 828 02:08:57,343 --> 02:08:59,178 [Alan] Do you have any regrets? 829 02:08:59,429 --> 02:09:01,472 [David] Can you get through life without regrets? 830 02:09:01,556 --> 02:09:05,184 I don't think you can . I've got tons of regrets! 831 02:09:05,518 --> 02:09:08,021 Tons of regrets, I mean , "Oh, that silly song". 832 02:09:08,313 --> 02:09:10,732 I've got a few, but then again too few to mention . 833 02:09:11,190 --> 02:09:16,654 I've got many regrets but you . . . You get on , don't you?' 834 02:09:17,864 --> 02:09:21,242 There are things I could have done better, things I should have done better. 835 02:09:26,664 --> 02:09:28,917 [Alan] What is your favourite musical memory? 836 02:09:30,043 --> 02:09:33,379 Oh, God , there are just far, far too many. 837 02:09:33,504 --> 02:09:37,050 I mean , I did play at a Les Paul tribute 838 02:09:37,133 --> 02:09:40,136 once in the New York, in the '80s I think it was, 839 02:09:40,386 --> 02:09:42,221 and I was playing a blues number, 840 02:09:42,388 --> 02:09:46,559 and BB King sort of wandered into the room and stood on the side. 841 02:09:46,643 --> 02:09:50,396 And at the end of the song he came up to me and said , 842 02:09:50,855 --> 02:09:53,483 "Hey, boy, you sure you wasn't born in Mississippi?" 843 02:09:58,613 --> 02:10:01,074 -Play "Hey Jude ''. -'rHey Jude 'r by Romany, yes. 844 02:10:42,198 --> 02:10:43,908 That's too high! 845 02:10:50,581 --> 02:10:53,459 Cor, she knows how to seize her moment, that girl ! 846 02:10:54,581 --> 02:10:56,459 107035

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