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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,713 --> 00:00:12,303 ♪♪ 2 00:00:12,387 --> 00:00:15,682 Bianchi: There may have been another killing or two. 3 00:00:15,765 --> 00:00:17,308 [ Door creaks ] 4 00:00:17,392 --> 00:00:20,854 It's something that happened, but it's not there all the time. 5 00:00:20,979 --> 00:00:22,063 [ Woman screams ] 6 00:00:22,188 --> 00:00:25,150 It's just like a bad dream. 7 00:00:25,233 --> 00:00:28,153 And no disrespect for the girls, 8 00:00:28,236 --> 00:00:30,280 dead people tell no tales. 9 00:00:30,363 --> 00:00:32,323 [ Woman screaming ] 10 00:00:32,407 --> 00:00:39,039 ♪♪ 11 00:00:39,122 --> 00:00:45,879 ♪♪ 12 00:00:46,004 --> 00:00:52,802 ♪♪ 13 00:00:52,886 --> 00:00:54,804 Welcome to "Very Scary People." 14 00:00:54,888 --> 00:00:56,222 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 15 00:00:56,306 --> 00:00:59,684 For four months in 1977 and 1978, 16 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:03,980 Los Angeles was terrorized by a series of sadistic killings. 17 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,483 The victims, all women, were tortured, 18 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:09,694 then humiliated in death as their nude bodies 19 00:01:09,778 --> 00:01:11,654 were displayed on hillsides. 20 00:01:11,738 --> 00:01:15,075 The press dubbed the murders the Hillside Stranglings. 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,245 In February 1978, the killings suddenly stopped. 22 00:01:19,329 --> 00:01:22,123 1,200 miles away in Bellingham, Washington, 23 00:01:22,248 --> 00:01:24,334 a young father named Kenneth Bianchi 24 00:01:24,417 --> 00:01:27,337 was charged with the murders of two college students. 25 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:28,963 The women were strangled. 26 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:32,550 Could Bianchi be connected to the killings in Los Angeles? 27 00:01:32,634 --> 00:01:36,096 This is Part 2 of "The Hillside Stranglers." 28 00:01:36,221 --> 00:01:43,687 ♪♪ 29 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:51,111 ♪♪ 30 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:52,987 Davis: Dolores Cepeda and Sonja Johnson, 31 00:01:53,113 --> 00:01:54,656 12 and 14-year old girls, 32 00:01:54,781 --> 00:01:57,575 spent the day shopping in East L.A. 33 00:01:57,659 --> 00:02:00,495 Renner: They caught the bus to come back, 34 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:08,044 and what they didn't know is that they were being hunted. 35 00:02:08,128 --> 00:02:13,049 They were motioned over to this car by these two guys. 36 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,426 One of them badges them and he says, 37 00:02:14,509 --> 00:02:16,845 "You shouldn't be out here. It's not safe. 38 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:19,764 We're from the police. We'll take you home." 39 00:02:19,848 --> 00:02:22,308 So they get in the car. 40 00:02:24,185 --> 00:02:29,399 Dolores and Sonja weren't in the habit of not returning home, 41 00:02:29,482 --> 00:02:31,317 and so when they didn't show up, 42 00:02:31,443 --> 00:02:33,862 their families are really concerned. 43 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:37,115 Everyone's looking for these two missing girls, 44 00:02:37,198 --> 00:02:40,410 and of course, as the hours tick by 45 00:02:40,493 --> 00:02:42,203 and then a couple of days roll by, 46 00:02:42,328 --> 00:02:43,830 the families may not know it, 47 00:02:43,913 --> 00:02:47,042 but the police know that the outcome's likely not to be good. 48 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:51,087 ♪♪ 49 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:52,839 De Reyes: A 9-year-old boy was rummaging 50 00:02:52,922 --> 00:02:55,925 through a trash dump near Dodger Stadium. 51 00:02:56,009 --> 00:03:01,806 Renner: He walks up to what he thinks are mannequins, and they're not. 52 00:03:01,890 --> 00:03:04,851 It's Dolores and Sonja. 53 00:03:04,934 --> 00:03:07,687 They were victims number four and number five. 54 00:03:07,771 --> 00:03:12,359 ♪♪ 55 00:03:12,442 --> 00:03:15,362 Davis: The body of Kristina Weckler was found. 56 00:03:15,445 --> 00:03:16,571 She was an art student. 57 00:03:16,696 --> 00:03:19,199 She had a huge future in front of her. 58 00:03:19,324 --> 00:03:22,869 Renner: There were marks on her arms 59 00:03:22,994 --> 00:03:26,748 that were consistent with needle marks. 60 00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:29,084 Davis: She was injected with a substance 61 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:31,628 usually used to clean windows, 62 00:03:31,711 --> 00:03:36,925 which caused her to go into violent convulsions. 63 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:41,388 She was tortured. 64 00:03:41,471 --> 00:03:45,058 She was gassed before she was finally killed. 65 00:03:45,183 --> 00:03:46,935 ♪♪ 66 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:50,730 It became clear that there was a serial killer on the loose. 67 00:03:50,814 --> 00:03:52,357 Meredith: They had been strangled. 68 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,401 Martin: Some had been sexually assaulted. 69 00:03:54,526 --> 00:03:59,864 Their bodies were dumped largely in public places. 70 00:03:59,948 --> 00:04:02,992 Davis: Who will be the next victim? Where will they be found? 71 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:05,412 Will it be someone I know? 72 00:04:05,537 --> 00:04:08,790 News people came up with a scary moniker, 73 00:04:08,915 --> 00:04:10,250 the Hillside Strangler. 74 00:04:10,375 --> 00:04:18,591 ♪♪ 75 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:22,679 Davis: Serial killers are almost always one figure. 76 00:04:22,762 --> 00:04:25,724 One thing that threw all of us off is, 77 00:04:25,807 --> 00:04:30,270 a pair of serial killers is almost unheard of. 78 00:04:30,353 --> 00:04:31,604 A theory circulated 79 00:04:31,688 --> 00:04:33,606 that the killers might be in law enforcement. 80 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:37,527 Martin: There was statements badges had been flashed. 81 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:40,947 They were either imposters posing as police officers, 82 00:04:41,072 --> 00:04:42,365 or they were police officers. 83 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:44,034 [ Sirens wail ] 84 00:04:44,117 --> 00:04:47,579 I mean the fear, the panic in the community was tremendous. 85 00:04:47,662 --> 00:04:49,581 We wound up joining with the L.A. Sheriff's Department 86 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:51,124 and the Los Angeles Police Department 87 00:04:51,207 --> 00:04:52,959 to form a task force. 88 00:04:53,084 --> 00:04:54,252 We were defenseless. 89 00:04:54,336 --> 00:04:56,463 We were clueless, trying to solve this. 90 00:04:56,546 --> 00:05:00,759 I mean, we went through 10 murders and had no leads. 91 00:05:00,842 --> 00:05:02,969 ♪♪ 92 00:05:03,094 --> 00:05:04,554 One of the interesting things that occurred 93 00:05:04,637 --> 00:05:06,890 after the last victim was found -- 94 00:05:06,973 --> 00:05:08,558 the murders stopped. 95 00:05:08,641 --> 00:05:10,810 They completely stopped. 96 00:05:10,935 --> 00:05:12,312 We don't have closure. 97 00:05:12,437 --> 00:05:16,107 ♪♪ 98 00:05:16,191 --> 00:05:19,736 McEachran: Bellingham was very concerned about these two young women, 99 00:05:19,819 --> 00:05:22,614 Karen Mandic, Diane Wilder, who were missing. 100 00:05:22,697 --> 00:05:25,283 This really had a note to it 101 00:05:25,367 --> 00:05:28,745 that really concerned the police. 102 00:05:28,828 --> 00:05:30,830 Reporter: The bodies of Karen Mandic and Diane Wilder 103 00:05:30,955 --> 00:05:34,709 were found stuffed in the back seat of Ms. Mandic's car. 104 00:05:34,834 --> 00:05:37,629 McEachran: There were large ligature marks on the necks 105 00:05:37,712 --> 00:05:39,589 of both of the girls, 106 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:42,676 and which should indicate they were strangled. 107 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:44,427 And it was something the police department 108 00:05:44,511 --> 00:05:48,139 put all of their energy to solve. 109 00:05:48,223 --> 00:05:49,849 Reporter: The first hint of their disappearance 110 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:52,644 came late Thursday, when Karen Mandic failed to return 111 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:55,271 to the local Fred Meyer from her dinner break. 112 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,565 Which is a large department food store. 113 00:05:57,691 --> 00:06:00,485 Davis: Karen asked her manager if she could take a long dinner break, 114 00:06:00,568 --> 00:06:03,238 because she had a job opportunity that came up. 115 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:05,699 McEachran: She had a security job. 116 00:06:05,824 --> 00:06:08,368 Karen found out about this security job 117 00:06:08,493 --> 00:06:11,037 from a former Fred Meyer's employee. 118 00:06:11,121 --> 00:06:14,582 ♪♪ 119 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:18,378 McEachran: There was a note there that indicated 120 00:06:18,461 --> 00:06:20,588 "Ken B. Called." 121 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:22,924 Investigators had called the security company 122 00:06:23,049 --> 00:06:26,928 and found out a man by the name of Kenneth Bianchi worked there. 123 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:31,016 He had also previously worked at Fred Meyer. 124 00:06:31,099 --> 00:06:33,768 McEachran: They also found a pubic hair when they lifted 125 00:06:33,893 --> 00:06:36,146 Diane Wilder's body out of the car 126 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:39,315 that matched microscopically the characteristics 127 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,818 of pubic hair from Mr. Bianchi. 128 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:43,361 I charged Kenneth Bianchi with 129 00:06:43,445 --> 00:06:46,072 murder in the first degree, two counts. 130 00:06:46,156 --> 00:06:49,451 ♪♪ 131 00:06:54,873 --> 00:06:56,750 Burkhalter: Then last week, Kenneth Bianchi was arrested 132 00:06:56,833 --> 00:07:00,086 in Bellingham, Washington, and named as a prime suspect 133 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:03,423 in the strangulation murders of two co-eds there. 134 00:07:03,506 --> 00:07:06,509 The Hillside Strangler cases we had heard about in the media, 135 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:07,844 but it was not something at least 136 00:07:07,927 --> 00:07:10,430 that I specifically was following. 137 00:07:10,555 --> 00:07:12,098 It was in California, 138 00:07:12,182 --> 00:07:15,643 but our police chief in Bellingham was from Los Angeles, 139 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:19,564 and he was familiar with the Hillside Strangler cases. 140 00:07:19,647 --> 00:07:22,108 He told me, "I think this looks like it, 141 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:23,610 has a lot of the connections 142 00:07:23,735 --> 00:07:27,113 that we have seen, as far as the manner of death." 143 00:07:27,238 --> 00:07:31,618 Burkhalter: The young women had been strangled, the car abandoned. 144 00:07:31,701 --> 00:07:34,287 McEachran: And he started checking on Bianchi and realized 145 00:07:34,371 --> 00:07:36,414 he had been in California. 146 00:07:36,498 --> 00:07:39,125 He had lived in so-called Strangler country, 147 00:07:39,209 --> 00:07:41,961 the Glendale area of San Fernando valley. 148 00:07:42,087 --> 00:07:44,964 Burkhalter: A number of curious coincidences came to light. 149 00:07:45,048 --> 00:07:46,508 Among them, Bianchi had, 150 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:48,802 during the period of the Los Angeles murders, 151 00:07:48,885 --> 00:07:50,261 lived in a Glendale apartment building 152 00:07:50,345 --> 00:07:53,765 where one Hillside Strangler victim also lived, 153 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:56,434 across the street from where another victim lived. 154 00:07:56,518 --> 00:08:00,772 ♪♪ 155 00:08:00,855 --> 00:08:02,357 McEachran: We went into his background, 156 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:05,694 and we sent officers immediately out to Rochester, New York, 157 00:08:05,819 --> 00:08:08,321 where he was from. 158 00:08:08,405 --> 00:08:11,116 To say that Kenneth Bianchi had a troubled childhood 159 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:13,034 is putting it mildly. 160 00:08:13,159 --> 00:08:16,996 Bianchi's biological mother was a sex worker. 161 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,667 Broberg: His birth mother is very young when she gives birth to him. 162 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:24,629 She very quickly realizes she can't take care of Kenneth, 163 00:08:24,713 --> 00:08:26,673 and then moves through the adoption, 164 00:08:26,756 --> 00:08:30,844 and the Bianchis come into the situation. 165 00:08:30,969 --> 00:08:34,055 The Bianchis then have their own interesting dynamic. 166 00:08:34,180 --> 00:08:36,808 Kenneth's mother is the domineering personality. 167 00:08:36,891 --> 00:08:39,728 The father plays a very submissive role. 168 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:43,273 His mother was overprotective. 169 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:47,152 When we looked at some of the records from schools 170 00:08:47,235 --> 00:08:48,778 that Bianchi attended, 171 00:08:48,862 --> 00:08:53,074 you can see references made to chronic lying. 172 00:08:53,199 --> 00:08:57,871 He lied when there was no good reason to lie. 173 00:08:57,954 --> 00:09:00,081 Schlesinger: When Bianchi was 12, he got in trouble 174 00:09:00,206 --> 00:09:02,459 for pulling down a young girl's pants. 175 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:07,297 All young boys have sexual interests at 12-13 years old, 176 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:08,882 but he acted on it. 177 00:09:09,007 --> 00:09:11,051 Most young boys don't do that. 178 00:09:11,134 --> 00:09:13,011 Bianchi did do that. 179 00:09:13,094 --> 00:09:15,805 Notwithstanding Bianchi being fairly bright, 180 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:17,974 he couldn't get along with the teachers. 181 00:09:18,058 --> 00:09:22,228 He is an individual who wants to be dominant and in control, 182 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:25,732 and he wants to see other people as submissive -- 183 00:09:25,857 --> 00:09:27,984 submissive to him. 184 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:31,988 On the surface, though, Bianchi could appear normal. 185 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:35,867 Schlesinger: He's a handsome guy. He's well-spoken. 186 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:38,161 Davis: As a teen, he even dated quite a bit. 187 00:09:38,244 --> 00:09:40,622 He met a girl and married her right out of high school. 188 00:09:40,747 --> 00:09:42,999 She left him almost immediately. 189 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:46,586 There's little information about her reason for leaving. 190 00:09:46,711 --> 00:09:48,880 Either way, Bianchi thought of the future 191 00:09:48,963 --> 00:09:53,802 and had a conventional view of what he wanted to do. 192 00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:55,887 Schlesinger: Bianchi wanted to be in authority. 193 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:59,683 He wanted a job in authority, a police officer. 194 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:01,643 Bianchi never made the cut to join the force, 195 00:10:01,768 --> 00:10:03,603 so he did the next best thing. 196 00:10:03,687 --> 00:10:05,814 He became a security guard. 197 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:08,483 McEachran: And his fellow employees and coworkers 198 00:10:08,608 --> 00:10:10,151 thought he was a nice guy. 199 00:10:10,276 --> 00:10:12,237 Schlesinger: He's smooth and manipulative, 200 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,699 and so he has a good ability to put people at ease. 201 00:10:15,782 --> 00:10:21,287 And so the disturbance is masked and covered up. 202 00:10:21,413 --> 00:10:23,832 That was, until he was caught stealing 203 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:26,626 from the stores he was hired to protect, 204 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:29,629 so he decided to make a change. 205 00:10:29,713 --> 00:10:33,174 He decided, "Hey, I'm going to go out to L.A. 206 00:10:33,299 --> 00:10:36,803 I'm going to change my life, see my cousin." 207 00:10:36,928 --> 00:10:38,304 And sure enough, that's what he did. 208 00:10:38,388 --> 00:10:40,098 He moved out to Glendale, California, 209 00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:43,184 and moved in with Angelo Buono, who was his role model. 210 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:45,603 And that's when the real trouble began. 211 00:10:45,687 --> 00:10:53,695 ♪♪ 212 00:10:57,115 --> 00:10:59,200 Kenneth Bianchi told detectives he had nothing to do 213 00:10:59,325 --> 00:11:02,620 with the Hillside Stranglings down in Los Angeles, 214 00:11:02,704 --> 00:11:04,622 let alone the murders of Diane Wilder 215 00:11:04,706 --> 00:11:07,167 and Karen Mandic up in Washington. 216 00:11:07,292 --> 00:11:10,003 De Reyes: His girlfriend, Kelli Boyd, was raising their infant son 217 00:11:10,128 --> 00:11:12,339 and didn't know what to think. 218 00:11:12,464 --> 00:11:16,509 And he begins this process of writing to her, saying, 219 00:11:16,593 --> 00:11:18,094 "It's not true." 220 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:21,181 De Reyes: "It takes a real maniac to do what was done. 221 00:11:21,306 --> 00:11:22,515 God forgive him." 222 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,142 Broberg: And it continued on, 223 00:11:24,225 --> 00:11:28,897 his ongoing belief that he was innocent. 224 00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:31,524 Davis: As L.A. detectives continued to investigate 225 00:11:31,649 --> 00:11:33,526 Bianchi for the Hillside Stranglings, 226 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:38,114 the evidence in the Washington murders continued to mount. 227 00:11:38,198 --> 00:11:41,493 Once we reached a point where I felt all the evidence showed 228 00:11:41,576 --> 00:11:48,667 clearly that Bianchi had killed both of these young women, 229 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:52,128 I filed for the death penalty, 230 00:11:52,212 --> 00:11:55,340 and I'd notified the defense attorney. 231 00:11:55,423 --> 00:11:57,801 The same day, he claimed that Mr. Bianchi 232 00:11:57,884 --> 00:12:00,220 was a multiple personality. 233 00:12:00,303 --> 00:12:01,805 Schulman: He is in custody in Washington, 234 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:04,307 where he pleaded innocent by reason of insanity 235 00:12:04,391 --> 00:12:07,560 to two counts of murder. 236 00:12:07,686 --> 00:12:10,897 Allnate: Bianchi was examined by a series of court-appointed psychiatrists 237 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:14,275 who recorded their sessions on video tape. 238 00:12:14,401 --> 00:12:17,278 I just can't imagine killing anybody... 239 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:19,489 ♪♪ 240 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:22,242 Taking life. 241 00:12:22,367 --> 00:12:23,910 Allnate: Two of the doctors reported that Bianchi 242 00:12:24,035 --> 00:12:26,162 suffered from multiple or split personalities. 243 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:27,622 They said the murders were committed 244 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:29,082 by one of the hidden personalities 245 00:12:29,207 --> 00:12:31,042 who called himself Steve Walker, 246 00:12:31,126 --> 00:12:32,961 a personality which allegedly surfaced 247 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:36,047 when Bianchi was hypnotized. 248 00:12:36,131 --> 00:12:38,425 Psychiatrist: Okay, I'm gonna start counting... 249 00:12:38,508 --> 00:12:41,928 25, 26, 27... 250 00:12:42,012 --> 00:12:44,639 And now I wanna talk to Steve. 251 00:12:44,764 --> 00:12:46,474 What's your name? 252 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:47,684 Steve. 253 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:48,935 What's your last name? 254 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:52,272 You, you're the [bleep] 255 00:12:52,397 --> 00:12:55,984 that's been trying to get me to leave him. 256 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:59,320 Broberg: So when Steve, one of his personalities, 257 00:12:59,446 --> 00:13:03,074 comes out, he confesses to all sorts 258 00:13:03,158 --> 00:13:05,410 of criminal type of behavior. 259 00:13:05,493 --> 00:13:09,289 I [bleep] killed those broads, you know, to smart him up, 260 00:13:09,372 --> 00:13:12,542 to show him that he couldn't push me [bleep] around. 261 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:13,710 Here in Bellingham? 262 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:15,211 That's right. 263 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:18,965 Strangled 'em, it's [bleep] plain as that. 264 00:13:19,049 --> 00:13:22,093 Strangled them with a [bleep] cord, nothing to it. 265 00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:27,140 The name Stephen Walker was a name that interested us. 266 00:13:27,265 --> 00:13:31,144 We had taken a briefcase when Mr. Bianchi was arrested, 267 00:13:31,227 --> 00:13:33,229 and in the briefcase, there were papers showing 268 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:35,899 that he had a degree in psychology 269 00:13:35,982 --> 00:13:38,276 and that he had gone to Pepperdine. 270 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,487 We checked with Pepperdine, and he was not a student. 271 00:13:40,612 --> 00:13:44,115 But we had transcripts for Thomas Stephen Walker, 272 00:13:44,199 --> 00:13:47,494 and he had graduated from Pepperdine. 273 00:13:47,577 --> 00:13:50,288 He had a degree in psychology. 274 00:13:50,372 --> 00:13:53,875 And he had responded to an advertisement in the paper 275 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,420 in Los Angeles in which a psychologist 276 00:13:57,504 --> 00:14:00,548 was asking to have someone join his practice 277 00:14:00,674 --> 00:14:04,094 and invited the people to send in transcripts. 278 00:14:04,177 --> 00:14:08,014 The so-called psychologist who wanted the transcripts 279 00:14:08,139 --> 00:14:09,724 was Kenneth Bianchi. 280 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,685 He was pretending to be a psychologist, 281 00:14:11,768 --> 00:14:14,854 and that's where Walker sent his transcripts. 282 00:14:14,979 --> 00:14:16,439 McEachran: Bianchi changed the names 283 00:14:16,523 --> 00:14:19,526 and put "Kenneth Bianchi" in the names on the transcripts 284 00:14:19,651 --> 00:14:23,697 and started a scam psychological business. 285 00:14:23,822 --> 00:14:26,866 Psychiatrist: Up here in Bellingham, 286 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:29,035 what did Steve do up here? 287 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:34,624 Okay, Steve up here lured and killed the two girls. 288 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:37,377 We felt that the interviews 289 00:14:37,502 --> 00:14:41,423 really were perpetuating this scam that Mr. Bianchi 290 00:14:41,548 --> 00:14:43,466 was trying to present. 291 00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:46,052 In one session, the psychologist urges Bianchi 292 00:14:46,136 --> 00:14:49,556 to engage his alter ego in a dialogue. 293 00:14:49,681 --> 00:14:51,683 You keep saying I killed those girls. 294 00:14:51,766 --> 00:14:55,562 I didn't, you did. 295 00:14:55,687 --> 00:14:56,855 It was me. 296 00:14:56,938 --> 00:14:58,732 I'm the one that's getting the blame. 297 00:14:58,857 --> 00:15:03,194 ♪♪ 298 00:15:03,278 --> 00:15:05,488 You just don't understand, you know, 299 00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:09,242 what happens to me is gonna happen to you. 300 00:15:11,327 --> 00:15:13,246 Schlesinger: They also brought in Dr. Orne, 301 00:15:13,329 --> 00:15:15,874 who is really an expert on hypnosis 302 00:15:15,957 --> 00:15:18,793 and dissociative identity disorder. 303 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:20,378 McEachran: Dr. Orne told me, 304 00:15:20,462 --> 00:15:22,130 "Look, I've looked at the video tapes. 305 00:15:22,255 --> 00:15:25,342 I'll tell you what, I think he's simulating hypnosis." 306 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:28,303 Schlesinger: The psychologist suggested to Bianchi 307 00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:31,181 that most people that have multiple personality disorders 308 00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:33,641 have more than one personality. 309 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:36,811 And lo and behold, there's a new personality 310 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:38,813 that Bianchi comes out with. 311 00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:40,357 Dr. Allison: Come on, Billy. 312 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,275 Come on, Billy. 313 00:15:42,359 --> 00:15:44,277 Now is not the time to be shy. 314 00:15:44,402 --> 00:15:46,279 Dr. Allison, nice to meet you. 315 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:48,448 You have not seen me before, have you? 316 00:15:48,531 --> 00:15:49,616 No, sir. 317 00:15:49,699 --> 00:15:53,078 Right from the jump, it was a bad performance. 318 00:15:53,161 --> 00:15:58,291 As I count backwards from 5 to 1, you'll be awake. 319 00:15:58,375 --> 00:16:02,128 Anyone who knows anything about multiple personality disorder, 320 00:16:02,212 --> 00:16:04,589 this is just a cheap acting job. 321 00:16:04,673 --> 00:16:07,300 And it really underlined the fact that this was a scam, 322 00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:11,262 and we thought we'd be able to wrestle him down in a trial. 323 00:16:11,346 --> 00:16:15,225 But investigators were working hard to try to tie him 324 00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:18,603 to the Hillside Stranglings in L.A. 325 00:16:18,687 --> 00:16:21,981 They were asking about these cases in California, 326 00:16:22,107 --> 00:16:23,817 and we had made enough of a connection there 327 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:27,987 that I'm sure he realized that was a real problem for him. 328 00:16:28,113 --> 00:16:30,573 This is probably the major break in the case. 329 00:16:30,657 --> 00:16:32,992 Let's go on listing the kinds of activities 330 00:16:33,118 --> 00:16:35,662 Steve was involved in, in Los Angeles. 331 00:16:35,745 --> 00:16:37,330 The killings of the girls. 332 00:16:37,455 --> 00:16:45,422 The killings of the girls to get not only sexual gratification, 333 00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:48,425 but also it gave a personal sense 334 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:55,890 of stimulation or excitement. 335 00:16:56,016 --> 00:17:05,442 ♪♪ 336 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:07,861 He was trying to use a multiple personality 337 00:17:07,944 --> 00:17:12,157 as a defense to anything that would come up there also. 338 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,325 He said to detectives, "I'll tell you what. 339 00:17:14,409 --> 00:17:15,702 I'll turn state's witness, 340 00:17:15,827 --> 00:17:18,079 and I'll tell you who the other strangler was. 341 00:17:18,204 --> 00:17:22,709 It was my cousin, Angelo Buono." 342 00:17:22,792 --> 00:17:24,502 Psychiatrist: Why did Angelo kill any girls? 343 00:17:24,586 --> 00:17:26,838 What did he have against them? 344 00:17:26,921 --> 00:17:30,717 I dunno, man. You know, he just... 345 00:17:30,842 --> 00:17:34,012 He was just an easy guy to get with the program, you know? 346 00:17:34,095 --> 00:17:37,557 I gave him the idea, and he went with it all the way. 347 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,559 Did you watch him kill them all? 348 00:17:39,642 --> 00:17:41,728 You bet I did, strangled them all. 349 00:17:41,853 --> 00:17:43,688 It's the easiest way to go. 350 00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:47,567 He was giving a description of these homicides and described 351 00:17:47,692 --> 00:17:51,905 how he and Angelo had done this together in California. 352 00:17:51,988 --> 00:17:53,406 Who killed who? 353 00:17:53,531 --> 00:17:54,949 I killed the first broad. 354 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:57,243 Who was she? 355 00:17:57,327 --> 00:17:59,579 Some black broad, I don't remember her name. 356 00:17:59,662 --> 00:18:00,997 How did you happen to pick her up? 357 00:18:01,081 --> 00:18:03,041 She was a hooker. 358 00:18:03,124 --> 00:18:04,751 Okay, who killed the second one? 359 00:18:04,876 --> 00:18:06,211 Angelo. Were you with him? 360 00:18:06,294 --> 00:18:08,421 He did a nice job doing it, too. 361 00:18:08,505 --> 00:18:10,840 Where did you kill her? 362 00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:13,510 Right at Angelo's house. 363 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:18,390 I would have to say that certainly we are looking at him. 364 00:18:18,473 --> 00:18:22,519 He's had a relationship with Mr. Bianchi. 365 00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:26,231 Angelo, now he's my kind of person. 366 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:29,984 He doesn't care a [bleep] about life, it's great. 367 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:32,862 Other people's life. 368 00:18:32,946 --> 00:18:35,198 Has he killed anybody? 369 00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:39,619 Yup, he has. How many? 370 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:43,039 Five girls. 371 00:18:43,123 --> 00:18:44,874 What a team we were. 372 00:18:44,958 --> 00:18:49,754 ♪♪ 373 00:18:49,838 --> 00:18:51,506 Komo: 27-year-old Kenneth Bianchi, 374 00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:53,675 charged with two homicides here in Bellingham, 375 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,552 pleaded guilty to the Bellingham charges 376 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:58,638 and admitted guilt to the Los Angeles slayings. 377 00:18:58,722 --> 00:19:01,850 When he's getting sentenced, he cries to everybody. 378 00:19:01,975 --> 00:19:04,436 He says how deeply sorry he is. 379 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:08,732 Bianchi: To even begin to try and live with myself, 380 00:19:08,815 --> 00:19:11,651 I have to take responsibility for what I've done. 381 00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:14,571 ♪♪ 382 00:19:14,654 --> 00:19:19,159 And I have to do everything I can to get Angelo Buono. 383 00:19:19,242 --> 00:19:20,702 It's ridiculous. 384 00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:24,497 He's not sorry about anything, other than he got caught. 385 00:19:24,581 --> 00:19:29,711 ♪♪ 386 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:35,884 Komo: Whatcom County prosecutor Dave McEachran 387 00:19:36,009 --> 00:19:39,721 asked for life sentences to be served consecutively. 388 00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:42,515 Bianchi says he will waive extradition to California 389 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:45,018 and travel down there to testify against his cousin, 390 00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:48,146 Angelo Buono, whom Bianchi says was an accomplice 391 00:19:48,229 --> 00:19:49,522 in a series of killings 392 00:19:49,606 --> 00:19:53,193 known as the Los Angeles Hillside Stranglings. 393 00:19:53,318 --> 00:19:55,195 Davis: As soon as the name Angelo Buono 394 00:19:55,278 --> 00:19:56,821 was tied to the case, 395 00:19:56,905 --> 00:20:00,700 I and my colleagues found out where he lived, where he worked. 396 00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:04,120 His upholstery shop was right next door to his house. 397 00:20:04,204 --> 00:20:06,414 Allegedly, people such as Frank Sinatra 398 00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:08,500 were his customers. 399 00:20:08,583 --> 00:20:11,753 He's an obsessive compulsive neat freak. 400 00:20:11,878 --> 00:20:15,215 He cleans things that you could use as an operating table. 401 00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:18,218 He cleans them again. 402 00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:20,929 Davis: Bianchi was an unreliable witness. 403 00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:22,263 So there was a period of time 404 00:20:22,389 --> 00:20:25,475 there when Buono is loose on the streets. 405 00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:27,811 He hasn't been arrested yet. 406 00:20:27,894 --> 00:20:30,855 Now as a journalist, I was going to find out 407 00:20:30,939 --> 00:20:33,525 everything I could about Angelo Buono. 408 00:20:33,608 --> 00:20:36,903 ♪♪ 409 00:20:37,028 --> 00:20:41,533 Angelo Buono was born in Rochester, New York, in 1934. 410 00:20:41,616 --> 00:20:46,037 Schlesinger: Buono had a very, very troubled relationship with his mother. 411 00:20:46,121 --> 00:20:49,082 Evidently, she was running around on his father, 412 00:20:49,207 --> 00:20:50,667 which led to the divorce. 413 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:52,627 That, I really think affected him, 414 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:55,922 because she stepped out of her mother role 415 00:20:56,047 --> 00:21:00,969 and acted out sexually, at least in Buono's mind. 416 00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:05,390 He had a hatred for women that showed up again and again. 417 00:21:05,473 --> 00:21:09,144 Angelo is known to say many times, 418 00:21:09,269 --> 00:21:12,939 "Some women just deserve to die." 419 00:21:13,023 --> 00:21:14,607 Schlesinger: When Buono was an adolescent, 420 00:21:14,733 --> 00:21:18,445 he was telling other guys that he was sodomizing girls 421 00:21:18,528 --> 00:21:20,405 and raping girls and this sort of thing. 422 00:21:20,488 --> 00:21:21,948 Whether or not it's true, it's hard to know, 423 00:21:22,073 --> 00:21:25,535 but just the fact that Buono is talking like that, 424 00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:30,290 it's really beyond what average teenage boys talk about, 425 00:21:30,415 --> 00:21:33,043 so you see deviancy emerging. 426 00:21:33,126 --> 00:21:37,964 Buono was acting out in a typical antisocial way 427 00:21:38,048 --> 00:21:42,844 as a young person -- left school, gets arrested, 428 00:21:42,969 --> 00:21:46,681 steals, all these sorts of things. 429 00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:50,352 At 21, Angelo impregnates a 17-year-old girl, 430 00:21:50,477 --> 00:21:52,228 and she becomes his first wife. 431 00:21:52,312 --> 00:21:57,650 He is awful to her, as he will be to his subsequent wives. 432 00:21:57,734 --> 00:22:00,487 He fathers at least eight children, 433 00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:04,032 never takes responsibility for any of them, 434 00:22:04,157 --> 00:22:05,825 and that's just his life. 435 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:07,744 That's just how he goes. 436 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:09,537 Buono ended up marrying four times 437 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:12,749 and had numerous other relationships. 438 00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:17,629 All of the women he married, he abused physically, verbally. 439 00:22:17,712 --> 00:22:21,424 They also made the accusation that he had abused 440 00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:24,219 one of his stepdaughters and that he said, 441 00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:26,888 "Well, she needs to be broken in." 442 00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:30,725 I wouldn't call him a charismatic person, 443 00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:34,396 although apparently a lot of young women 444 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:37,357 found him attractive. 445 00:22:37,482 --> 00:22:40,360 He was the kind of guy that carried a big wad 446 00:22:40,443 --> 00:22:44,989 of $100 bills and liked to impress people. 447 00:22:45,073 --> 00:22:47,325 One of the characteristics of a psychopath 448 00:22:47,409 --> 00:22:49,911 is other people want to be around them. 449 00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:52,789 They know how to ingratiate themselves with people, 450 00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:58,211 and they can be attractive to some types of individuals. 451 00:22:58,294 --> 00:23:00,797 Among the people who came to admire Buono was his cousin, 452 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Ken Bianchi, who came out to California to live with him. 453 00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:07,387 Renner: When Ken arrived in L.A., 454 00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:12,892 he had the Hollywood vision of Los Angeles in his head, 455 00:23:12,976 --> 00:23:15,562 and he just seemed to be leading a normal life. 456 00:23:15,645 --> 00:23:18,690 He found a girlfriend. She got pregnant. 457 00:23:18,773 --> 00:23:20,483 He seemed to be delighted, really, 458 00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:22,861 about the prospect of being a father. 459 00:23:22,944 --> 00:23:28,825 And so on the surface, he seemed to be a perfectly normal guy 460 00:23:28,908 --> 00:23:32,662 in his 20s with a bright future ahead of him. 461 00:23:32,746 --> 00:23:34,622 But the real Kenneth Bianchi 462 00:23:34,748 --> 00:23:37,500 was someone completely different from the guy 463 00:23:37,584 --> 00:23:41,171 that he presented himself to be in Los Angeles. 464 00:23:41,254 --> 00:23:43,006 When Bianchi gets to L.A., 465 00:23:43,089 --> 00:23:47,844 we know he establishes this kind of fake psychology service. 466 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,180 Renner: He really studied the subject. 467 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:52,057 He knew the jargon. 468 00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:54,601 So he got a false license, 469 00:23:54,726 --> 00:23:57,520 and he was so well-read in the subject 470 00:23:57,604 --> 00:24:00,190 that he was able to convince another psychologist 471 00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:03,401 to let him have an office space. 472 00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:07,781 He even had one or two patients drop in. 473 00:24:07,864 --> 00:24:10,617 De Reyes: But Bianchi, well, he needed more. 474 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:14,996 He set his sights on being in a position of authority, 475 00:24:15,121 --> 00:24:19,668 something he was obsessed with since he was a little kid. 476 00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:22,629 Meredith: We had a candidate that had applied to be a police officer 477 00:24:22,754 --> 00:24:24,964 that my sergeant wanted to have rejected. 478 00:24:25,090 --> 00:24:27,884 He goes, "I don't like this guy. There's something about him." 479 00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:30,053 So we wound up disqualifying him. 480 00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:32,347 His name happened to be Kenneth Bianchi. 481 00:24:32,472 --> 00:24:38,019 ♪♪ 482 00:24:41,064 --> 00:24:46,069 ♪♪ 483 00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:48,822 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 484 00:24:48,947 --> 00:24:50,615 Kenneth Bianchi had bright dreams 485 00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:52,367 when he moved to Los Angeles 486 00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:55,078 to be near his cousin, Angelo Buono. 487 00:24:55,161 --> 00:24:58,456 For years, he'd imagined himself in a position of authority 488 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:00,333 and having others look up to him. 489 00:25:00,417 --> 00:25:03,003 Although Buono and Bianchi barely knew each other, 490 00:25:03,086 --> 00:25:07,048 the cousins found they had more in common than either realized. 491 00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:12,178 ♪♪ 492 00:25:12,303 --> 00:25:14,806 Davis: When Bianchi moved out to southern California, 493 00:25:14,889 --> 00:25:16,683 he knew he needed to make some money. 494 00:25:16,808 --> 00:25:18,351 Well, his older cousin Angelo said, 495 00:25:18,435 --> 00:25:20,437 "Why don't we go into the prostitution business?" 496 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,063 Reporter: This is Sabra. 497 00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:24,858 She was 17 years old when she was allegedly forced to work 498 00:25:24,941 --> 00:25:27,861 as a prostitute on behalf of Angelo Buono 499 00:25:27,944 --> 00:25:30,613 and his cousin and companion, Ken Bianchi, 500 00:25:30,697 --> 00:25:33,199 now the two suspects in the Hillside Stranglings. 501 00:25:33,324 --> 00:25:34,868 His temper flared up very easily, 502 00:25:34,993 --> 00:25:38,455 and if he didn't get his way on things that he wanted, 503 00:25:38,538 --> 00:25:39,914 then it was like, 504 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,000 "I'm going to slap you around a couple of times 505 00:25:42,083 --> 00:25:45,837 until you realize that I mean business." 506 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,797 Lee: Sabra's a very pretty girl, 507 00:25:47,881 --> 00:25:50,258 full of dreams, like many girls her age, 508 00:25:50,383 --> 00:25:53,553 and believed that she was going to be a model or an actress, 509 00:25:53,636 --> 00:25:55,263 and came to Hollywood. 510 00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:58,183 Kenneth Bianchi posed as a modeling agent 511 00:25:58,266 --> 00:25:59,976 when he lured Sabra. 512 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:04,272 He was a master of identities and of personalities. 513 00:26:04,397 --> 00:26:08,026 Sabra was pressured to bring another girl in. 514 00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,236 Becky Spears was a friend of sabra's. 515 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,654 And Becky came in, 516 00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:13,823 and things started to get rough at that point. 517 00:26:13,907 --> 00:26:16,201 I never saw a gentle side of either one of them. 518 00:26:16,284 --> 00:26:18,870 I never saw a human side of either one of them. 519 00:26:18,953 --> 00:26:22,874 I would say when I was there, I was kidnapped. 520 00:26:22,957 --> 00:26:27,087 I was there not on my own will. 521 00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:30,006 Becky was sent out to meet a lawyer as a customer, 522 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:33,218 and Becky told him the story, and he helped her escape. 523 00:26:33,301 --> 00:26:35,804 De Reyes: They still had the other young woman, 524 00:26:35,929 --> 00:26:38,890 and eventually she escaped. 525 00:26:38,973 --> 00:26:42,644 Lee: There's a theory that after Sabra and Becky got away, 526 00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:44,354 that these two wanted revenge, 527 00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,231 but I think it was more complicated than that. 528 00:26:46,314 --> 00:26:48,358 I think that they had the intentions 529 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:50,276 of setting up an escort service. 530 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,279 Davis: So Bianchi and Buono contacted two young prostitutes 531 00:26:53,363 --> 00:26:57,033 in Hollywood, Yolanda Washington and Debbie Noble. 532 00:26:57,117 --> 00:27:02,288 At one point, they were given a list of possible johns. 533 00:27:02,372 --> 00:27:05,458 They soon found out, though, that the list was fake, 534 00:27:05,583 --> 00:27:07,752 and that they were taken for money. 535 00:27:07,836 --> 00:27:09,838 That angered them greatly. 536 00:27:12,007 --> 00:27:15,468 Yolanda Washington happened to casually say to 537 00:27:15,593 --> 00:27:21,307 Angelo and Ken where she walked the streets on Sunset Boulevard, 538 00:27:21,433 --> 00:27:24,060 and they went and found Yolanda Washington. 539 00:27:24,144 --> 00:27:25,729 Renner: They killed her in a car, 540 00:27:25,812 --> 00:27:28,815 but once they decided that that was too risky, 541 00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:31,067 they developed this whole M.O. 542 00:27:31,151 --> 00:27:33,445 ♪♪ 543 00:27:33,528 --> 00:27:37,407 Bianchi and Buono would drive around as if they're two cops. 544 00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:40,201 The police ruse thing was used in almost all of them. 545 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,078 Psychiatrist: So they were under the impression 546 00:27:42,162 --> 00:27:45,457 that they were being taken to a police station, right? 547 00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:46,958 Right. 548 00:27:47,042 --> 00:27:50,045 All signs pointed to the fact that most of the victims 549 00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:51,921 were brought back to Buono's home 550 00:27:52,005 --> 00:27:54,049 next to the upholstery shop. 551 00:27:54,174 --> 00:28:03,433 The girls were undressed, bound, gagged, whatever. 552 00:28:03,516 --> 00:28:05,060 There was sex with them. 553 00:28:05,185 --> 00:28:08,104 They were apparently placed in a chair 554 00:28:08,188 --> 00:28:12,233 where they were violated, tortured. 555 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,696 Fibers from that chair were found on several of the victims. 556 00:28:16,780 --> 00:28:20,241 Then they were put on the floor and killed. 557 00:28:20,367 --> 00:28:23,828 After they were dead, the body was loaded into the car, 558 00:28:23,912 --> 00:28:25,330 the nude body. 559 00:28:25,413 --> 00:28:29,542 De Reyes: The bodies had been dumped off in areas 560 00:28:29,668 --> 00:28:34,130 that were pretty much in the general vicinity of Glendale. 561 00:28:34,214 --> 00:28:38,802 It would put Angelo Buono's shop somewhat in the middle of it. 562 00:28:40,929 --> 00:28:43,723 Buono and Bianchi were operating undetected, 563 00:28:43,807 --> 00:28:46,518 and the body count continued to rise. 564 00:28:46,601 --> 00:28:48,770 When law enforcement hasn't started to target them, 565 00:28:48,895 --> 00:28:50,146 they get brave, 566 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:52,607 and they begin to push the envelope to see 567 00:28:52,732 --> 00:28:58,029 if they can do more and more to kind of frustrate the police. 568 00:28:58,113 --> 00:29:00,156 Davis: Kimberly Martin was the ninth victim. 569 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,409 She was working for an escort service. 570 00:29:02,492 --> 00:29:03,910 These guys were so confident, 571 00:29:03,993 --> 00:29:06,871 they asked the service to a girl to an empty apartment 572 00:29:06,955 --> 00:29:09,457 in the same complex where Bianchi lived. 573 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:12,002 Schlesinger: When they called up and had a prostitute 574 00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:15,672 go to an empty apartment in a place where Bianchi lived, 575 00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:17,215 that's high-risk behavior, 576 00:29:17,298 --> 00:29:19,551 because they can get connected to it. 577 00:29:19,634 --> 00:29:21,177 Davis: Kimberly Martin ended up 578 00:29:21,261 --> 00:29:23,930 getting into a struggle with the killers in Bianchi's building, 579 00:29:24,055 --> 00:29:26,433 and some of the neighbors overheard the commotion. 580 00:29:26,558 --> 00:29:28,601 Lee: The police officers were interviewing everybody 581 00:29:28,685 --> 00:29:29,978 in the apartments 582 00:29:30,103 --> 00:29:32,647 and forcing them to show their driver's license. 583 00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:34,983 And they spoke to Kenneth Bianchi, 584 00:29:35,108 --> 00:29:36,901 and he manipulated his way from showing them 585 00:29:36,985 --> 00:29:38,445 the driver's license, 586 00:29:38,570 --> 00:29:40,697 because if they would have seen the driver's license, 587 00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:44,200 they would have noted that the address on the driver's license 588 00:29:44,284 --> 00:29:47,203 was the same address as the previous victim. 589 00:29:47,287 --> 00:29:52,834 ♪♪ 590 00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:56,963 ♪♪ 591 00:29:57,088 --> 00:29:59,966 Meredith: In the city of Los Angeles, we went through 10 murders, 592 00:30:00,091 --> 00:30:04,054 and the Cindy Hudspeth case was the last one we had. 593 00:30:04,137 --> 00:30:06,348 Renner: Cindy Hudspeth's on her way to work. 594 00:30:06,473 --> 00:30:09,476 She's in her car. She's driving along. 595 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:11,978 She sees an auto upholstery shop 596 00:30:12,062 --> 00:30:14,230 and just on a whim, she stops in, 597 00:30:14,314 --> 00:30:17,359 and it's Angelo Buono's upholstery shop. 598 00:30:17,484 --> 00:30:20,320 Angelo and Ken cannot believe their good luck. 599 00:30:20,403 --> 00:30:22,947 They don't even have to go cruising for anyone. 600 00:30:23,031 --> 00:30:26,493 This woman just walked right into the trap. 601 00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:31,164 And at this point, their M.O. Is really solid. 602 00:30:31,247 --> 00:30:36,336 And they get her tied up, and they do what they always do. 603 00:30:36,461 --> 00:30:41,132 They sexually assault her and they strangle her. 604 00:30:41,216 --> 00:30:44,094 ♪♪ 605 00:30:44,177 --> 00:30:46,221 Since she just walked in, her car is there. 606 00:30:46,346 --> 00:30:49,849 They have to get rid of it. They put her body in the trunk. 607 00:30:49,974 --> 00:30:52,852 Ken's driving in her car with her body in it. 608 00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:54,646 They get it to a hillside. 609 00:30:54,729 --> 00:30:57,649 Angelo parks at the side of the road behind him. 610 00:30:57,732 --> 00:31:00,860 They look around to see if anyone's watching, 611 00:31:00,985 --> 00:31:04,614 and they just pitch the car over the side. 612 00:31:04,698 --> 00:31:12,205 ♪♪ 613 00:31:12,288 --> 00:31:17,335 So despite the extensive manhunt for the Hillside Stranglers, 614 00:31:17,419 --> 00:31:21,089 including after the death of Cindy Hudspeth, 615 00:31:21,214 --> 00:31:25,635 Bianchi continued to take unnecessary risks. 616 00:31:25,719 --> 00:31:28,430 At the time, LAPD had a program 617 00:31:28,555 --> 00:31:31,641 to take citizens on a ride-along with police. 618 00:31:31,725 --> 00:31:34,811 Bianchi, who always wanted to be in law enforcement, 619 00:31:34,894 --> 00:31:36,479 took them up on it. 620 00:31:36,563 --> 00:31:38,732 Schlesinger: Buono, who's very street smart 621 00:31:38,857 --> 00:31:40,942 and knows you can only take it so far, 622 00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:43,445 said to Bianchi, "You got to get out of here, 623 00:31:43,570 --> 00:31:45,113 and if you don't I'm going to kill you, 624 00:31:45,238 --> 00:31:48,116 because you're gonna get me implicated in this." 625 00:31:48,241 --> 00:31:52,996 So then Bianchi moved to Washington state. 626 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,873 De Reyes: After moving to Washington, 627 00:31:54,956 --> 00:31:57,083 Bianchi was arrested for the murders 628 00:31:57,167 --> 00:32:00,003 of Diane Wilder and Karen Mandic. 629 00:32:00,086 --> 00:32:02,297 And then he started to talk, 630 00:32:02,422 --> 00:32:06,426 fully implicating Angelo Buono in the L.A. murders. 631 00:32:06,509 --> 00:32:08,011 Davis: Finally, detectives in L.A. 632 00:32:08,094 --> 00:32:10,638 were ready to move against Buono. 633 00:32:10,764 --> 00:32:13,350 We immediately deployed our tactical team. 634 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:14,976 We had placed some snipers on the roof 635 00:32:15,101 --> 00:32:16,227 of an apartment building 636 00:32:16,311 --> 00:32:18,772 behind Angelo Buono's upholstery shop. 637 00:32:18,897 --> 00:32:20,607 We had secured the area. 638 00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:26,571 ♪♪ 639 00:32:26,654 --> 00:32:28,073 When he walked out in handcuffs, 640 00:32:28,156 --> 00:32:32,035 I looked at him and I thought, the arrogance, 641 00:32:32,118 --> 00:32:36,998 the confidence, the demeanor, the evilness that he possessed. 642 00:32:37,123 --> 00:32:39,959 ♪♪ 643 00:32:40,043 --> 00:32:42,295 I was relieved. Finally, we've got him. 644 00:32:42,379 --> 00:32:46,007 We get to do something about it. 645 00:32:46,132 --> 00:32:48,468 Everyone was getting ready for Buono's trial 646 00:32:48,593 --> 00:32:53,181 when Bianchi's life took a turn no one expected. 647 00:32:53,306 --> 00:32:54,808 McEachran: Veronica Compton was a woman 648 00:32:54,891 --> 00:32:57,852 who likened herself as a playwright, 649 00:32:57,977 --> 00:33:00,480 and she wanted to interview Bianchi. 650 00:33:00,563 --> 00:33:04,651 Renner: She'd written a play called, "The Mutilated Cutter," 651 00:33:04,776 --> 00:33:07,821 which is just one heck of a name for anything. 652 00:33:07,904 --> 00:33:10,323 And she approached Bianchi in prison 653 00:33:10,407 --> 00:33:13,159 and wanted to talk to him to do some sort of research. 654 00:33:13,243 --> 00:33:14,536 Well, one thing led to another. 655 00:33:14,661 --> 00:33:17,872 She became romantically involved with Bianchi. 656 00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:19,624 And apparently, they fell in love. 657 00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:20,917 Renner: She's attractive, 658 00:33:21,001 --> 00:33:23,545 But the thing that really attracts Ken is, 659 00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:26,548 in this screenplay that she's written, 660 00:33:26,673 --> 00:33:29,467 it revolves around a female serial killer, 661 00:33:29,551 --> 00:33:34,014 and she lays a false trail for investigators 662 00:33:34,097 --> 00:33:37,726 by taking the semen of innocent men 663 00:33:37,851 --> 00:33:41,438 and leaving it at the scene to throw the police off. 664 00:33:41,521 --> 00:33:45,025 The wheels start turning in Ken's head. 665 00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:47,569 Bianchi and Compton came up with a plan 666 00:33:47,694 --> 00:33:49,446 that they thought would convince authorities 667 00:33:49,529 --> 00:33:52,699 that they had the wrong man, and that 668 00:33:52,782 --> 00:33:56,536 the real Hillside Strangler was on the loose. 669 00:33:56,619 --> 00:33:59,539 Renner: Never mind that he's already confessed to the crimes, 670 00:33:59,664 --> 00:34:01,291 but she's going to do this thing for him. 671 00:34:01,374 --> 00:34:03,626 De Reyes: He gave her a condom of semen 672 00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:06,212 to put on the victim so that they could say, 673 00:34:06,338 --> 00:34:10,216 "Hey, there's, there's somebody else doing those crimes." 674 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,719 McEachran: She came to Bellingham and had a disguise 675 00:34:12,844 --> 00:34:14,179 on making her look pregnant, 676 00:34:14,262 --> 00:34:18,600 had a long wig on, and went to a local bar here 677 00:34:18,725 --> 00:34:22,145 and encountered a young woman whose name was Kim Breed. 678 00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:24,439 And they started drinking together, 679 00:34:24,564 --> 00:34:29,110 and Veronica Compton invited her back to her hotel room. 680 00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:31,404 When they got there, Veronica indicated 681 00:34:31,529 --> 00:34:33,615 she wanted to just change her clothes, 682 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:37,077 and went in the bathroom and came back out 683 00:34:37,202 --> 00:34:40,246 and was able to get behind this young woman 684 00:34:40,330 --> 00:34:42,040 and put a ligature around her neck 685 00:34:42,123 --> 00:34:45,085 and started choking her, trying to kill her. 686 00:34:53,802 --> 00:34:55,595 She was a very strong woman. 687 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,431 Was able to get the ligature off her neck, 688 00:34:58,515 --> 00:35:00,684 and knocked Veronica Compton down 689 00:35:00,767 --> 00:35:04,604 and Veronica Compton ran out of the room. 690 00:35:04,688 --> 00:35:08,441 Davis: It wasn't long before police caught up with Veronica Compton. 691 00:35:08,566 --> 00:35:12,404 I charged her with attempted murder in the first degree. 692 00:35:12,487 --> 00:35:16,908 Veronica, did you attempt to murder Kim Breed? 693 00:35:16,991 --> 00:35:18,827 No. 694 00:35:18,952 --> 00:35:22,747 It was supposed to be a game. She was in on it. 695 00:35:22,831 --> 00:35:25,917 The jury wasn't buying Veronica Compton's claim. 696 00:35:26,001 --> 00:35:28,628 She was convicted in a jury trial. 697 00:35:28,712 --> 00:35:32,549 Renner: Veronica Compton does spend 22 years in prison for this. 698 00:35:32,632 --> 00:35:35,385 The whole thing was just bizarre. 699 00:35:35,468 --> 00:35:38,471 I think that's the best word that I can think of. 700 00:35:38,596 --> 00:35:41,433 With the Compton distraction out of the way, 701 00:35:41,516 --> 00:35:45,353 prosecutors were now concentrating on getting justice 702 00:35:45,478 --> 00:35:47,981 for the victims of the Hillside Stranglers. 703 00:35:48,106 --> 00:35:53,695 ♪♪ 704 00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:59,159 Reporter: Buono wore a jail uniform 705 00:35:59,284 --> 00:36:01,786 to and from the criminal courts building. 706 00:36:01,870 --> 00:36:03,997 At that time, we had a system in Los Angeles 707 00:36:04,122 --> 00:36:09,586 where judges would appoint attorneys to represent someone, 708 00:36:09,669 --> 00:36:13,381 so the first person who was appointed was Gerry Chaleff. 709 00:36:13,506 --> 00:36:16,551 Gerry was looking for somebody in particular. 710 00:36:16,676 --> 00:36:18,678 He wanted to have a female. 711 00:36:18,803 --> 00:36:23,683 He knew a woman was going to be sitting next to Angelo Buono. 712 00:36:23,808 --> 00:36:28,188 And here's a man that's charged with raping 713 00:36:28,313 --> 00:36:32,525 and torturing and killing 10 women, 714 00:36:32,609 --> 00:36:36,613 and if he can get along with what appears to be a nice woman 715 00:36:36,696 --> 00:36:38,490 for a lengthy period of time, 716 00:36:38,573 --> 00:36:40,867 and the jury is watching everything, 717 00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:44,537 then maybe he's not that bad after all. 718 00:36:44,621 --> 00:36:46,456 The district attorney at the time 719 00:36:46,539 --> 00:36:49,751 realizes that Bianchi lies constantly. 720 00:36:49,876 --> 00:36:52,212 And so the district attorney is saying, 721 00:36:52,337 --> 00:36:55,048 "I can't go to court and charge Buono 722 00:36:55,131 --> 00:36:57,050 when my star witness is Bianchi, 723 00:36:57,175 --> 00:36:59,344 who can't tell the truth about anything." 724 00:36:59,427 --> 00:37:03,390 Mader: And so the district attorney of Los Angeles 725 00:37:03,473 --> 00:37:06,768 at the time went into court to dismiss the case. 726 00:37:06,893 --> 00:37:11,022 And the judge, Ron George, said, "Mm, wait a minute here. 727 00:37:11,106 --> 00:37:16,903 I'm not necessarily going to just on the spot here 728 00:37:17,028 --> 00:37:18,530 dismiss the case. 729 00:37:18,613 --> 00:37:20,240 I need more information." 730 00:37:20,365 --> 00:37:23,660 I would say in over 99% of the cases, 731 00:37:23,743 --> 00:37:27,080 one would not second guess a prosecutor, 732 00:37:27,163 --> 00:37:30,667 but in this case, I felt obliged to. 733 00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:34,254 He picked up on a lot of scientific investigations, 734 00:37:34,337 --> 00:37:36,881 reports, particularly the fiber evidence, 735 00:37:36,965 --> 00:37:41,428 that appeared to connect Buono and Buono's house 736 00:37:41,553 --> 00:37:44,931 to the murdered young women. 737 00:37:45,056 --> 00:37:48,476 De Reyes: So they appointed a couple of attorneys to handle the case, 738 00:37:48,601 --> 00:37:50,854 and these guys were much more gung-ho. 739 00:37:50,937 --> 00:37:54,816 These guys were much more battle-tested, you could tell. 740 00:37:54,941 --> 00:37:57,777 And I think that Gerald Chaleff and Katherine Mader 741 00:37:57,861 --> 00:37:59,779 had their hands full with these two. 742 00:37:59,904 --> 00:38:06,036 ♪♪ 743 00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:08,246 Davis: The trial went on and on. 744 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:11,249 In fact, it was the longest trial in Los Angeles County 745 00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:12,792 at that time. 746 00:38:12,876 --> 00:38:15,837 De Reyes: The prosecution was determined to use Bianchi 747 00:38:15,962 --> 00:38:17,130 as their star witness. 748 00:38:17,213 --> 00:38:19,466 He'd already pleaded guilty to the two murderers 749 00:38:19,549 --> 00:38:23,595 in Washington state and the five in L.A. 750 00:38:23,678 --> 00:38:27,140 The defense countered that it was impossible for Bianchi 751 00:38:27,223 --> 00:38:28,975 to tell a consistent story. 752 00:38:29,059 --> 00:38:30,769 Chaleff: I think he's a liar. 753 00:38:30,852 --> 00:38:33,855 He's a sophisticated con man who will use anything 754 00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:36,399 and anybody to get what he wants. 755 00:38:36,483 --> 00:38:39,819 Perhaps I had convinced myself 756 00:38:39,903 --> 00:38:44,491 that we really had a shot of getting an acquittal here 757 00:38:44,574 --> 00:38:46,993 as to all the murders. 758 00:38:47,077 --> 00:38:53,750 ♪♪ 759 00:38:53,833 --> 00:38:57,504 The convictions came in piecemeal. 760 00:38:57,587 --> 00:39:02,467 The first verdict that the jurors reached 761 00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:06,471 was with the victim Yolanda Washington, 762 00:39:06,554 --> 00:39:10,600 and the jurors came back fairly quickly 763 00:39:10,684 --> 00:39:12,769 with a not guilty verdict. 764 00:39:12,852 --> 00:39:18,525 I think that must have freaked out the prosecution. 765 00:39:18,608 --> 00:39:22,654 And then for the subsequent nine victims, 766 00:39:22,737 --> 00:39:25,657 they convicted him of everything. 767 00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:27,659 Reporter: Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Ronald George 768 00:39:27,742 --> 00:39:29,869 lamented that he had no legal choice 769 00:39:29,953 --> 00:39:33,707 but to follow the jury's recommendation of life sentences 770 00:39:33,790 --> 00:39:36,418 instead of the death penalty. 771 00:39:36,543 --> 00:39:38,378 George: Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi 772 00:39:38,503 --> 00:39:40,630 terrorized this city for several months, 773 00:39:40,714 --> 00:39:42,674 as Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi 774 00:39:42,757 --> 00:39:47,262 slowly squeezed out of their victims their last breath of air 775 00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:50,056 and their promise of a future life. 776 00:39:50,181 --> 00:39:51,474 And all for what? 777 00:39:51,558 --> 00:39:53,560 The momentary, sadistic thrill 778 00:39:53,643 --> 00:39:57,605 of enjoying a brief, perverted sexual satisfaction 779 00:39:57,731 --> 00:40:00,900 and the venting of their hatred of women. 780 00:40:00,984 --> 00:40:05,488 ♪♪ 781 00:40:05,572 --> 00:40:09,034 Davis: Buono was serving his sentence in 2002 782 00:40:09,117 --> 00:40:11,536 when he met a sudden end. 783 00:40:11,619 --> 00:40:14,581 De Reyes: Angelo Buono died of a heart attack, 784 00:40:14,664 --> 00:40:16,499 which was a very merciful thing 785 00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:19,419 to happen to a very unmerciful individual. 786 00:40:19,544 --> 00:40:23,757 ♪♪ 787 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,924 McEachran: Mr. Bianchi has filed 788 00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:27,260 a number of lawsuits and appeals. 789 00:40:27,385 --> 00:40:28,720 He has said a number of times 790 00:40:28,803 --> 00:40:30,263 that the real killer is still there. 791 00:40:30,347 --> 00:40:33,725 That's all he has to do, is try to argue these things, 792 00:40:33,808 --> 00:40:37,228 and it's just crazy at this point. 793 00:40:37,312 --> 00:40:39,147 Lee: Bianchi's never gonna get out on parole, 794 00:40:39,272 --> 00:40:40,440 so he's just stuck there. 795 00:40:40,565 --> 00:40:42,609 And I think that's a good place for -- 796 00:40:42,692 --> 00:40:46,780 those are the kind of people that belong in jail. 797 00:40:46,863 --> 00:40:49,783 Davis: Sadly, cases like this, 798 00:40:49,866 --> 00:40:53,953 it's another attack on our fortress of feeling safe. 799 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:55,663 For those of us who lived through 800 00:40:55,789 --> 00:40:58,625 the Hillside Strangler case, we'll never forget it. 801 00:40:58,708 --> 00:41:00,794 Renner: There are ripples from these crimes 802 00:41:00,919 --> 00:41:04,172 that go on literally for generations. 803 00:41:04,297 --> 00:41:06,299 It's the fabric of the universe, 804 00:41:06,383 --> 00:41:09,427 and that's what each one of these victims represents to me, 805 00:41:09,511 --> 00:41:11,805 just a tear in the fabric of the universe 806 00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:14,724 that never gets put right again. 807 00:41:14,808 --> 00:41:18,144 It did change the way people looked at the city, 808 00:41:18,269 --> 00:41:19,604 the way they lived. 809 00:41:19,688 --> 00:41:22,315 That's what serial killers did for Los Angeles. 810 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,777 It set us up for this kind of paranoid lifestyle 811 00:41:25,860 --> 00:41:28,238 that we still sort of live now. 812 00:41:28,321 --> 00:41:30,156 ♪♪ 813 00:41:30,281 --> 00:41:33,118 Meredith: I have seen a lot of horrific crimes in my time, 814 00:41:33,201 --> 00:41:36,162 but I cannot imagine anything being as horrific 815 00:41:36,246 --> 00:41:38,790 as what occurred to these women and these girls. 816 00:41:38,873 --> 00:41:40,291 I've dealt with some evil people, 817 00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:45,338 but nobody as evil and dark as Buono and Bianchi. 818 00:41:45,422 --> 00:41:49,509 Kenneth Bianchi will be eligible for parole again in 2025, 819 00:41:49,634 --> 00:41:51,761 the same year he turns 74. 820 00:41:51,845 --> 00:41:54,347 Sadly, while his name still generates headlines, 821 00:41:54,472 --> 00:41:58,018 the identities of his victims remains largely unknown, 822 00:41:58,101 --> 00:42:00,020 except to their friends and loved ones. 823 00:42:00,145 --> 00:42:01,354 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 824 00:42:01,438 --> 00:42:03,106 Thanks for watching. 825 00:42:03,189 --> 00:42:06,901 Goodnight. 65837

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