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Augenstein: The way he saw her,
turned, and followed,
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I understand what he's thinking.
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He's thinking,
"I have a victim here."
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He's sizing her up.
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At some point, he realizes,
"Yes, this is the one."
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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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The 2014 disappearance
of student Hannah Graham
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sent shock waves through
the close-knit community
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of Charlottesville, Virginia,
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in part because it felt
all too familiar.
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Five years earlier,
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another college student
had vanished nearby
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under similar circumstances,
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and DNA later found
on her discarded shirt
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was linked to a third brutal
attack four years earlier.
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With so much time passing
between attacks,
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investigators can't help
but wonder,
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"Are there other victims
yet to be discovered?"
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This is part 2 of
"The Back-to-School Killer."
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Hannah Graham
is a second-year student
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at the University of Virginia.
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She is out having fun
with friends.
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French: So, Hannah started
the night on September 13, 2014,
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out to dinner,
and from that restaurant,
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they went to a few parties
that evening.
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Augenstein: And then she decides
to meet some other friends
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and starts walking
down Market Street
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towards the downtown mall.
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The last text that Hannah sends
to her friends is at 1:20 a.m.
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She tells friends
that she's lost.
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Longo: That was the last time
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that anyone saw Hannah Graham
alive.
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I can't imagine what her parents
are going through.
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I mean, they drop their daughter
off at college.
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And now they're waking up
every morning wondering,
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"Am I ever gonna see
my daughter again?"
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The Hannah Graham case
was huge
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because this was part
of a larger picture
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of a serial predator.
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Hannah Graham's disappearance
was an eerie reminder
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of the disappearance
of Morgan Harrington.
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Tonight, where is
20-year-old Morgan Harrington?
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Gil Harrington: Morgan had
20 fantastic years,
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and she had one hell
of a bad night.
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It's the night
of October 17, 2009.
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Henderson: Morgan told me she
was going to the concert,
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and she was really excited
for a fun night out
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in Charlottesville.
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Vance: The question of what
happened to Morgan
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is something
we don't know exactly.
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At some point, during the show,
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Morgan has to go
to the bathroom.
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And she'd fallen.
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She was disoriented.
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Somehow, she ends up outside.
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Morgan is outside the venue,
and they have a rule
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that you can't go back in
if you leave.
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The roommates called Morgan
and said,
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"Morgan, where are you?"
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And Morgan said,
"I'm outside the building.
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I can't get back in."
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And she told her friends
that she would find a way home.
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So, right next to
the John Paul Jones Arena,
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there is a section
where taxicabs can park
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and wait for people
to come outside of the venue.
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It's not beyond the realm
of possibility
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that a cabdriver would see
a pretty blonde
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with her thumb up in the air,
needing a ride,
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and swing by
and offer her a lift.
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Stuart: There was something
incredibly terrifying,
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that Morgan could
disappear like this,
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just vanish into thin air.
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It really left
the community terrorized.
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I think the most vivid image
I have in my head
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is of her being alive
in the field
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and being cold --
it's dark -- with this monster.
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A frantic search is under way
for a beautiful, young woman
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who vanished during
a packed rock concert.
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Bryan-Campos: Thirty days
after Morgan disappeared,
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her black Pantera T-shirt
was found on top of a bush
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outside of an apartment
building in the UVA campus.
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Investigators tested
that Pantera T-shirt,
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and the DNA on that shirt
matched an attempted rape
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of a woman in Fairfax, Virginia,
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that had happened
several years earlier.
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It's Fairfax, Virginia,
September 2005.
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Stuart:
A woman that we'll call R.G.
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was walking home
with her groceries
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when a man came up
behind her and grabbed her.
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Augenstein: He throws this woman
down on the ground.
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He's ripping at her.
He's taking off her clothes.
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He's punching her.
He's threatening her.
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Stuart: R.G.'s life was likely
saved by the fact
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that a car went by with lights
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and caused the assailant to stop
the attack and leave her.
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She sits down with police,
and she is able to provide
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to police a sketch composite
of her assailant.
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The search for Hannah Graham
was one of the most extensive
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and largest searches
in Virginia history.
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Augenstein: The public was
watching this like it's a --
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you know,
a Hollywood thriller.
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And that creates a sense
of urgency in you
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as an investigator.
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Bryan-Campos: We received
surveillance footage
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within days of the announcement
that she was missing.
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Police have already gathered
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all of the security footage
from the mall,
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and they're trying to
put together a timeline
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of where Hannah had been
on that evening.
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They are able to trace
her steps.
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I think I'd seen the video
several times,
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and I'd seen the guy in
the big white outfit walking by.
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I didn't realize, at first,
that he turned around
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and was walking behind Hannah.
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Watching that deliberate
crossing of the mall
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and then following
right behind her,
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that was chilling.
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It still gives me chills,
thinking about that video.
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Anchor: Police believe
that Jesse Matthew
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is the man seen in this video,
following Hannah that night,
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the last person to perhaps
have been seen with Hannah,
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and they want
to speak with him.
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Longo: We knew intuitively
that was Jesse Matthew.
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This was someone
very well-known,
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and we had an internal source
that was familiar with him
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and was able to look and say,
"Oh, I know that person."
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There were people
who felt very strongly
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that this was not behavior
that this individual
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could be capable of,
that this wasn't who he was.
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It was contrary to the person
they knew him to be.
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French: I think there's a
disconnect on what you'll hear
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about Jesse Matthew.
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His friends never wanted
to go on camera,
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but the conversations I had
with them were so powerful.
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His friends knew Jesse Matthew
as the godfather
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that would take care of their
kids without them present.
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They trusted Jesse Matthew
with their children.
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And then you have the reports
like you did on the night
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that Hannah Graham disappeared
of this individual
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that was abrasive
and that touched women
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when they didn't want
to be touched
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and that would just walk up
to them and grab them.
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So, you know,
who is Jesse Matthew?
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He could be a person who is
everyone's favorite son,
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favorite teacher,
favorite mentor,
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and, at the same time,
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have a dark side from the demons
that he's dealing with.
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Jesse Matthew is a local guy.
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He grew up in this community.
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He had some learning
disabilities growing up,
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some difficulties with literacy,
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and he suffered some abuse
in his childhood.
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He grew up with a father
who was a convicted sex abuser.
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It was reported
that Jesse Matthew
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was also a victim
of sexual assault.
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Titus:
The fact that Jesse Matthew
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was a victim of sexual abuse
at a young age,
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the fact that he was bullied,
had a severe stutter as a child,
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all of these things
compiled created Jesse Matthew.
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And the impulses that he acted
out throughout his life
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were a result
of those things happening
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and not being addressed
at a younger age
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and festering it
and then getting to the point
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where he could
no longer hold it in.
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French: Despite his troubled
home life, at times,
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he made the most
of different situations.
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Stuart: Certainly football
was a ticket for him
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to get out of Charlottesville.
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He left Charlottesville
to go to college.
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Augenstein: Jesse Matthew wasn't
at Liberty University
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for very long.
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There were pretty quickly
some allegations
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of a sexual assault.
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Bryan-Campos: So, no charges
were ever filed
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at Liberty University,
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and he goes to
Christopher Newport University.
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And a couple months
into the school year,
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there are more allegations
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that Jesse has committed
a sexual crime.
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Gil Harrington: If you looked
at R.G.'s case,
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if you looked at Morgan's case,
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at Hannah's case, the rapes
that he did at Liberty,
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at Christopher Newport,
I was trying to think,
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"Why are all these things
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happening at the same time
of the year?"
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You have new female students
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who don't really have
a cadre of friends yet.
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They don't really know where
the kind of not-safe places
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to go in a town.
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So, they're vulnerable
for that very reason.
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Augenstein: In the four years
between 2005,
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when R.G. was attacked,
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and 2009,
when Morgan was attacked,
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Jesse Matthew was never charged
with any other crime.
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There's been a lot of
missing-girl cases in Virginia
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in the past 20 years,
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and I think
that it's safe to say
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that almost every one
has been checked to see
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whether Jesse Matthew could have
possibly been involved in them.
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Bryan-Campos: So, there are
women who went missing
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the same time that Jesse Matthew
was at Liberty University
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and at Christopher Newport
University.
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Those cases have never
been solved.
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Stuart: There were questions
about what Jesse Matthew
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was doing between Morgan
Harrington's disappearance
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and Hannah Graham's
disappearance.
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He was in a relationship,
and it's been speculated
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that that is perhaps
what prevented him
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from committing other crimes
in the intervening years.
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When there is a large gap
between serial killings,
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it shows
one of two things --
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either there are other cases
that have occurred
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that we have not been able
to tie to the serial killer,
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or something crucial
in the perpetrator's life
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happened that allowed him
to move away from this behavior.
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Jesse's relationship ended,
and Hannah Graham disappeared.
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So, it seems that perhaps
the end of that relationship
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may have been a trigger for him
to resume his violent behavior.
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With the needs
that Jesse Matthew has,
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it's just a matter of time
before he acts out again.
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French: A hundred and one days
after Morgan's disappearance,
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during the dead of winter,
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Dan and Gil get a call
that no parent should ever get.
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Gil Harrington: A farmer
was checking his fence lines
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and came upon
what he thought initially
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was a deer carcass in his field.
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But he quickly saw that
there was a human skull there.
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And it was our Morgan.
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Dan Harrington: Gil and I drive
to Charlottesville,
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and we demand to go to the place
where Morgan's body is.
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The helicopters from Richmond,
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from the state
police headquarters,
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came and picked us up
and took us to the site.
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We did not land, but we were
able to see sort of
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where Morgan's body was,
which was very isolated.
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It was miraculous
that she had been found.
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It was such a big place,
and she was such a small girl.
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I really believe that Morgan
wanted to be found.
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Morgan's autopsy is done,
and what it tells investigators
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is that Morgan fought
her killer till the very end.
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She has fractures in her wrist,
her ribs, head injuries.
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Her teeth are knocked out.
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And in interviewing
investigators,
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I was told that, you know,
her killer may not have set out
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to kill his victims
on the night that he attacked,
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but he was going to
sexually assault them,
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and if that meant killing them,
he would do it.
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The killer was likely
a large person,
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somebody who could have
overpowered Morgan,
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who was not large.
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She was 5'6"
and I believe about 120 pounds.
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I know that when Morgan realized
that she was in over her head
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and that she was
with a killer, she fought.
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And I remember a time
when her mother learned
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that it wasn't hair
or semen on the shirt,
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it was blood, his blood,
and Gil Harrington said,
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"Good girl, Morgan.
You fought.
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You had so much to fight
and live for."
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French:
Now the next chapter starts.
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Now they want to know
who did it,
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and they want to start finding
justice for their daughter.
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Gil Harrington:
I just wanted to stop him.
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That was a huge motivator.
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Help save the next girl,
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because there was inevitably
going to be another victim
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for him if he wasn't stopped.
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If you're an apex predator,
if you have already
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done abduction,
rape, and murder,
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it's unlikely you go
and steal Chiclets
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from 7-Eleven
as your next crime.
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I think that those crimes
tend to escalate
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and become either more savage
or more frequent.
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I was very worried.
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We want to talk
to Jesse Matthew.
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We want to talk to him.
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We want to talk
about his interaction
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with a sweet, young girl
that we can't find,
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'cause he was with her.
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It was only a couple of days
after his name
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had been put out
in the public
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that Jesse Matthew
surprised police
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by showing up
at the police station.
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He came, and he walked
into the police station.
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As soon as he got there,
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he asked to be represented
by a lawyer.
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He was not in custody.
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He was free to walk out
of that building.
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He was not under arrest.
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That attorney came out
of the room, and he said,
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"He doesn't have
anything to say."
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And he left.
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And Jesse Matthew left with him.
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He was followed when
he left the police station,
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and then he took off
at a high rate of speed,
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but his driving behavior
was so incredibly reckless
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that the trooper who made
the observations
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secured an arrest warrant,
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charging him
with those driving offenses,
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and that was the first
charging document
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that would exist
for Jesse Matthew.
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French: When investigators went
to charge Jesse Matthew Jr.
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with reckless driving,
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they were able to get a search
warrant on his apartment,
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and they were able
to look inside.
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So, police search
Jesse Matthew's home.
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They take enough items
from his apartment
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and from his car to run DNA.
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Augenstein: Police were tailing
him surreptitiously,
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but, believe it or not,
one night,
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they're watching him leave
a family member's house,
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and they lose him.
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He speeds away, and they
don't know where he is.
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This afternoon,
we reached that point
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where the Commonwealth felt
we had sufficient probable cause
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to seek an arrest warrant
for Jesse LeRoy Matthew Jr.
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of Charlottesville.
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There's a nationwide manhunt
for him at this point.
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Dan Harrington: One morning,
it was a Saturday morning,
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I got up,
and I got on Facebook.
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And this person
from Charlottesville
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put a picture
of Jesse Matthew.
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And then they put up
the composite picture
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that the police
had put together.
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And it was the same person,
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and so I immediately
texted the investigator
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who was working
with the Virginia state police,
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and I said, "We have the person
who killed our daughter,"
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and he said, "I know."
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Stuart: Jesse, just like Hannah,
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and just like Morgan years
before, has now vanished,
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and investigators
don't know where he is.
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♪♪
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Anchor: The FBI now joining
the search
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for missing Hannah Graham --
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the investigation focusing
on this man, Jesse Matthew,
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who police believe is
the last person to be seen
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with the University
of Virginia sophomore
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before she vanished
over a week ago.
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This was a national manhunt
at this point.
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And the national media
was all over it.
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Blitzer: Police today put out
a "wanted" poster
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for a man they're describing
as the last person seen
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with missing University
of Virginia
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sophomore Hannah Graham.
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French:
Two days, 1,300 miles away,
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a lady is on a beach,
walking her dog,
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and her name is Karen Monk.
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♪♪
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The weather was beautiful.
The water was calm.
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So, it was a nice day
to be there.
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She pulled her car up
on the sand,
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which you're allowed to do.
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And this guy in a vehicle
drives by.
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The individual that was in
the car looked directly at me,
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which was about 10 feet from me.
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And I thought I recognized
this person from a newscast
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that I'd been following.
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Time stands still.
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You're holding your breath,
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and you just hope
they just keep going.
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It was very, very scary.
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Luckily this person
keeps driving.
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She just remembered, like,
seeing his eyes on TV
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and it was a face --
it was a face you can't forget.
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I was shaking.
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I was scared because no one --
there was no one else around me.
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I did call my family to see
my description of him,
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if I was correct,
and they sent me a picture
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from the local news,
and it was him.
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French:
So she calls Crime Stoppers.
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And she's like,
"This is the guy from --
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that they're looking
for in Virginia."
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And they didn't believe her.
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Monk: Crime Stoppers told me
that he is
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not being looked for in Texas,
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and I assured them that
"Yes, he is.
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He is here on the beach
in Texas."
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French: So, she looked up
the local sheriff's office,
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and she reports that there is
a wanted criminal
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on the same beach as her.
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They're like, "Okay.
We don't know where you are.
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Meet us
at the local fruit stand."
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Monk: While I was sitting
at the fruit stand,
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waiting on the sheriff's
department to arrive,
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it was about 45 minutes.
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It did seem like forever,
and they did show up,
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and the officer asked me
several questions like,
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who I saw,
who I thought it was.
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I gave him the description
of the car
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and the description
of Jesse Matthew.
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Sheriff's deputy goes,
and they arrest him.
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In other breaking news tonight,
authorities have arrested
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the man they have been
looking for in connection
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with missing college
student Hannah Graham.
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Stuart: When Jesse Matthew
was arrested in Texas
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and then extradited,
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that was the first time
I had seen or heard his voice
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and seen sort of --
seen video of him,
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other than the grainy
surveillance video
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where you couldn't really
make out much
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of the night that
Hannah Graham disappeared.
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00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,334
Sir, I got a question
for you.
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Okay.
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Like, they took
all my clothes
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and they got me sleeping
on a hard thing.
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I feel like I --
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I should be able to have
some kind of clothes.
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It was really jarring to see him
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because although
he's a very large man,
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he actually has sort of
a youthful-looking face.
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And to imagine looking
at this person
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and realizing this is likely
the person that has committed
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these vile, horrific acts
of violence was striking
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and, you know,
kind of sickening.
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Welcome back.
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More breaking news tonight,
what Virginia state police
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say there is a significant break
in the disappearance
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of University of Virginia
Hannah Graham --
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a new forensic link,
they call it,
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to another Virginia woman,
Morgan Harrington,
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who vanished nearby
five years ago.
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French: The DNA taken
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from Jesse Matthew Jr.'s
apartment
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was a match
to the Pantera T-shirt,
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was a match to the 2005 rape.
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It was a match to everything.
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♪♪
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Longo:
It was a Saturday morning,
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and about 10:00 that morning,
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we received a call
at the command post
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from some sheriff's deputies,
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that they thought they
had discovered human remains.
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Detective Sergeant James Mooney
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00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:13,888
of the Charlottesville
Police Department
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made a very difficult phone call
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and reached out to John
and Susan Graham
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to share with them
this discovery.
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00:25:22,522 --> 00:25:25,775
Chief Tim Longo got
very emotional
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00:25:25,859 --> 00:25:28,403
delivering the news to us
in the media.
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But he made a promise
to John and Susan
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that he would not give up
until he could bring
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their daughter home
one way or another.
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Stuart: Morgan and Hannah's
remains were both found
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in the same area
of Charlottesville,
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about five miles
or so apart from each other,
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both rural areas.
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Morgan's was on this farm,
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and Hannah's remains
were found in a creek bed.
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They did perform an autopsy
on Hannah's body.
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And, like Morgan,
Hannah fought --
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fought hard until the very end.
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To say that it brought finality
to the task at hand
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would be accurate.
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And now there's
an equally heavy lift
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and that is
a criminal prosecution.
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And so we go from one phase
to the next.
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Reporter: The cases build
against the prime suspect,
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Jesse Matthew.
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It was hard to imagine how Jesse
was going to be able
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to get out of the legal
ramifications of his crimes.
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Even though police
and prosecutors did suspect
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Jesse Matthew in connection
with Morgan Harrington
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and Hannah Graham's murders,
they decided to go forward first
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with the rape of the woman
R.G. in Fairfax County.
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The reason was that
was an easier case to make.
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They had DNA evidence.
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They had a good witness
who was willing to testify
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00:27:02,122 --> 00:27:04,249
who was alive.
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00:27:08,336 --> 00:27:10,088
This was the first time
Jesse Matthew
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was physically
in a Virginia court room,
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and his only two words today --
"Not guilty."
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I've done a lot of thinking
about why Jesse Matthew
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didn't plead guilty
to the R.G. attack.
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I think he was willing
to roll the dice
483
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and willing to bet that R.G.
wouldn't show up
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and testify against him.
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Porcher: I genuinely believe
that the defense
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looked at the discovery,
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meaning the evidence
against the defense,
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and they saw an area
that they were able to exploit.
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This trial would hinge
on R.G.'s testimony.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Welcome back
to "Very Scary People."
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Even though Jesse Matthew
had been conclusively linked
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to the murders of Hannah Graham
and Morgan Harrington,
495
00:28:11,775 --> 00:28:15,195
the first case to go to trial
would be for the 2005 rape
496
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,405
and attempted murder
in Fairfax, Virginia,
497
00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:21,076
of the woman known publicly
as R.G.
498
00:28:21,201 --> 00:28:23,620
Now, a decade after
that harrowing night,
499
00:28:23,703 --> 00:28:27,165
she'll make a dramatic return
from halfway around the world
500
00:28:27,248 --> 00:28:30,710
to testify against the man
who shattered her life.
501
00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:34,631
Stuart: For some of the court
proceedings,
502
00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:38,385
the hearings were held in
a very, very small courtroom.
503
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:41,721
And Jesse Matthew had
to be led in, and in so doing,
504
00:28:41,805 --> 00:28:47,060
he literally had to brush up
against Gil and Dan Harrington.
505
00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:49,437
And he stopped,
and he looked down at them,
506
00:28:49,562 --> 00:28:53,149
and I will never forget seeing
Gil Harrington look up
507
00:28:53,233 --> 00:28:55,068
and not look away.
508
00:28:55,151 --> 00:28:57,404
Gil Harrington: And that
one time, as he came by,
509
00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:59,906
Dan and I could have
been incinerated
510
00:28:59,989 --> 00:29:02,242
with his eye contact.
511
00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:05,370
And it was not a moment
of remorse
512
00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:07,414
that I could see
from Jesse Matthew.
513
00:29:07,539 --> 00:29:10,125
It was almost an act
of intimidation.
514
00:29:12,752 --> 00:29:14,963
Bryan-Campos: I became very
uncomfortable every time
515
00:29:15,088 --> 00:29:19,759
I posted a picture
of Jesse Matthew on our website
516
00:29:19,843 --> 00:29:24,097
because of how dead
and cold his eyes were.
517
00:29:24,222 --> 00:29:27,183
There wasn't much there to see
518
00:29:27,267 --> 00:29:30,562
because it was just
the cold eyes of a hunter.
519
00:29:34,107 --> 00:29:35,191
Augenstein:
R.G. made the decision
520
00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:37,527
to come back to this country
521
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:40,613
to testify against
Jesse Matthew.
522
00:29:40,697 --> 00:29:43,825
She had been embarrassed
to tell her family
523
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:47,787
that she had been assaulted,
but she did.
524
00:29:47,912 --> 00:29:52,208
She knew that her name
would be given in the courtroom,
525
00:29:52,292 --> 00:29:57,756
but she decided to testify
against Jesse Matthew.
526
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,383
Bryan-Campos:
R.G. knows the stakes.
527
00:30:00,467 --> 00:30:05,513
Not only does she get to
have this personal closure,
528
00:30:05,638 --> 00:30:09,267
but I think she understands
how this conviction
529
00:30:09,351 --> 00:30:13,313
also sets into motion
other convictions.
530
00:30:16,024 --> 00:30:17,150
Vance: She was tiny --
531
00:30:17,275 --> 00:30:18,985
she must have weighed
95 pounds --
532
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:20,320
but not soft-spoken.
533
00:30:20,403 --> 00:30:21,821
She was powerful.
534
00:30:22,739 --> 00:30:26,868
And her insistence
to tell her story?
535
00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:28,536
She came back and she said,
536
00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:31,581
"This is what
my attempted murder looked like.
537
00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:35,377
This is what
a serial killer does.
538
00:30:35,502 --> 00:30:37,712
This is how he bent my legs
backwards
539
00:30:37,837 --> 00:30:43,843
and rearranged my face and
broke my ribs and bloodied me."
540
00:30:43,968 --> 00:30:46,262
He almost killed her, as well.
541
00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:51,726
He was interrupted
in the assault by a passerby
542
00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:56,356
and that probably is the only
reason that she survived.
543
00:30:56,439 --> 00:30:59,693
He did strangle her
and told her,
544
00:30:59,776 --> 00:31:02,529
"Don't move, or I'm going
to snap your neck."
545
00:31:04,864 --> 00:31:10,787
And we assume that Morgan was
also strangled in the same way.
546
00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:21,464
The fact that R.G.
was so compelling, so narrative,
547
00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:28,638
so specific about his violence
and his lack of humanity
548
00:31:28,722 --> 00:31:33,518
gave us what really is
a rare portrait of a predator
549
00:31:33,601 --> 00:31:35,645
in action destroying.
550
00:31:35,729 --> 00:31:38,815
I mean, he had
no more compassion
551
00:31:38,898 --> 00:31:41,526
than a trash compactor.
552
00:31:41,609 --> 00:31:44,320
And he was doing
that much damage.
553
00:31:46,197 --> 00:31:47,532
The prosecution rested,
554
00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:50,452
and it was now up
to the defense.
555
00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:57,792
♪♪
556
00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:04,299
Jesse Matthew is being tried
in Fairfax County, Virginia,
557
00:32:04,424 --> 00:32:06,468
for a 2005 rape.
558
00:32:07,719 --> 00:32:09,095
Reporter:
The victim, now in her 30s,
559
00:32:09,179 --> 00:32:12,724
came all the way from India
to testify in this case.
560
00:32:12,807 --> 00:32:15,518
Augenstein:
R.G. was willing to re-create
561
00:32:15,602 --> 00:32:17,687
and tell the very intimate,
562
00:32:17,771 --> 00:32:21,775
very horrifying story
about what happened
563
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,736
the night
that Jesse Matthew attacked her.
564
00:32:25,987 --> 00:32:31,951
And she was willing to put
herself through the agony
565
00:32:32,077 --> 00:32:34,037
of re-creating that evening
566
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,833
to make sure that Jesse Matthew
was held accountable.
567
00:32:38,958 --> 00:32:44,381
At that point I had no idea
what defense they might use.
568
00:32:44,464 --> 00:32:47,467
And the decision
stretched on and on.
569
00:32:47,592 --> 00:32:50,345
In fact, the judge
called a recess.
570
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:53,056
The recess stretched on and on.
571
00:32:54,891 --> 00:32:58,603
French: Two days into the trial,
Jesse takes the Alford plea,
572
00:32:58,687 --> 00:33:03,191
which means that he is
not admitting guilt,
573
00:33:03,316 --> 00:33:09,864
but he realizes that there is
enough evidence to convict him.
574
00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:12,992
Gil Harrington: After Jesse
pled guilty,
575
00:33:13,118 --> 00:33:15,954
his mother did break down.
576
00:33:16,037 --> 00:33:20,500
And I'm sure that was
a hideous experience,
577
00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:25,338
to see your son admit
to such a crime
578
00:33:25,463 --> 00:33:27,465
and to hear
that he had been sentenced
579
00:33:27,549 --> 00:33:30,844
to multiple life sentences
in jail.
580
00:33:30,969 --> 00:33:36,558
And she lost it.
I did feel badly for her.
581
00:33:41,521 --> 00:33:46,192
It's March 2016,
and Jesse LeRoy Matthew Jr.
582
00:33:46,276 --> 00:33:47,569
pleads guilty to the murders
583
00:33:47,694 --> 00:33:50,655
of Hannah Graham
and Morgan Harrington.
584
00:33:51,322 --> 00:33:53,533
Longo: I was in the courtroom
that day when Judge Higgins
585
00:33:53,616 --> 00:33:55,243
qualified the plea.
586
00:33:55,368 --> 00:33:56,703
And there's a series
of questions
587
00:33:56,786 --> 00:33:58,705
that are asked
during that qualification.
588
00:33:58,830 --> 00:34:01,291
And one of those questions
is something along the lines is,
589
00:34:01,374 --> 00:34:05,337
"And are you pleading guilty
because you are in fact guilty?"
590
00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:06,880
That's a very different plea
591
00:34:06,963 --> 00:34:08,882
than the previous plea
in Fairfax city,
592
00:34:08,965 --> 00:34:12,552
the Alford plea, where he's,
"Nah, I'm not saying I did it.
593
00:34:12,677 --> 00:34:14,054
I'm just saying
you've got enough
594
00:34:14,137 --> 00:34:16,723
to prove that I did it" --
a very different plea.
595
00:34:16,806 --> 00:34:19,476
It's a plea without
accepting responsibility.
596
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:23,396
To hear him say in response
to Judge Higgins' question,
597
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,773
"Yes.
598
00:34:24,898 --> 00:34:27,192
Yes, I'm pleading guilty
because I am guilty,"
599
00:34:27,275 --> 00:34:29,027
it was incredibly powerful.
600
00:34:30,987 --> 00:34:34,741
Man: Guilty to the first-degree
murder of Hannah Graham.
601
00:34:34,866 --> 00:34:36,534
Guilty to the abduction
with intent
602
00:34:36,618 --> 00:34:38,661
to defile Hannah Graham.
603
00:34:38,745 --> 00:34:42,123
Guilty to the first-degree
murder of Morgan Harrington.
604
00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:44,584
And guilty to the abduction
with intent
605
00:34:44,709 --> 00:34:46,711
to defile Morgan Harrington.
606
00:34:47,087 --> 00:34:49,255
Reporter: Jesse Matthew Jr.'s
plea deal
607
00:34:49,339 --> 00:34:50,924
sends him to prison for life
608
00:34:51,007 --> 00:34:54,010
with no possibility
of ever being released.
609
00:34:56,596 --> 00:34:59,599
French: Through all of this,
Gil has always said
610
00:34:59,683 --> 00:35:03,186
they're all part
of this horrible club,
611
00:35:03,269 --> 00:35:07,982
and everyone that has been
involved in this is a victim.
612
00:35:08,108 --> 00:35:12,821
And even Jesse's family,
Gil has said, is a victim.
613
00:35:14,781 --> 00:35:17,492
Gil Harrington: After Jesse had
pled guilty
614
00:35:17,617 --> 00:35:19,703
and received his sentencing,
615
00:35:19,786 --> 00:35:25,083
his family came from the
defendant side of the courtroom
616
00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:28,920
and came up to me and Dan
and all shook our hands
617
00:35:29,004 --> 00:35:30,672
and said,
you know, "We are so sorry.
618
00:35:30,797 --> 00:35:32,841
We are so sorry.
We are so sorry."
619
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:41,891
And his mother came last,
and we just hugged each other.
620
00:35:41,975 --> 00:35:45,979
And his mom said,
"Will you always pray for me?"
621
00:35:46,062 --> 00:35:49,566
And I said, "Yes, I will, if you
will always pray for me, Debra."
622
00:35:49,649 --> 00:35:52,652
And she said, "Yes, I will."
623
00:35:53,695 --> 00:35:55,989
Stuart:
And it was an act of grace.
624
00:35:56,114 --> 00:35:58,658
Mother to mother --
I think Gil understood
625
00:35:58,742 --> 00:35:59,909
that for Jesse's mother,
626
00:35:59,993 --> 00:36:03,371
this is also an enormous,
devastating loss.
627
00:36:03,496 --> 00:36:07,250
And it was a generosity of
spirit that you don't see often.
628
00:36:09,377 --> 00:36:12,464
Gil Harrington: Justice
is a very abstract thing.
629
00:36:12,547 --> 00:36:14,549
When the case comes to an end
630
00:36:14,674 --> 00:36:17,886
and even
with multiple life sentences,
631
00:36:18,011 --> 00:36:23,725
I mostly was seeking
a stop to his rampages.
632
00:36:23,850 --> 00:36:25,143
And so, he's in jail.
633
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:27,729
He's never going to hurt
anyone again.
634
00:36:27,854 --> 00:36:30,690
But just because
there's been a trial
635
00:36:30,774 --> 00:36:35,528
and he's in jail
doesn't make us whole again.
636
00:36:35,612 --> 00:36:41,034
At one point we created
a map of Virginia
637
00:36:41,117 --> 00:36:46,206
with all the missing persons,
almost all girls,
638
00:36:46,331 --> 00:36:49,209
since R.G. was abducted,
639
00:36:49,334 --> 00:36:54,047
and it's like a scatter pattern
of bodies,
640
00:36:54,130 --> 00:36:58,218
and I wonder
if Jesse is responsible
641
00:36:58,301 --> 00:36:59,886
for some of those missing girls,
642
00:37:00,011 --> 00:37:03,223
many of whom still have
not been recovered.
643
00:37:04,182 --> 00:37:06,643
French: I think there's still
so much to learn
644
00:37:06,726 --> 00:37:09,604
from Jesse Matthew Jr.,
645
00:37:09,729 --> 00:37:13,858
and that's why I reached out
to him in prison.
646
00:37:15,235 --> 00:37:20,115
♪♪
647
00:37:22,992 --> 00:37:25,787
♪♪
648
00:37:25,912 --> 00:37:30,750
French: In 2020, I spoke
to Jesse Matthew in prison.
649
00:37:30,875 --> 00:37:34,754
I wanted to speak to him
because I made a promise
650
00:37:34,838 --> 00:37:39,259
to the Harringtons
that I would try to find out
651
00:37:39,384 --> 00:37:41,720
why he did what he did.
652
00:37:48,018 --> 00:37:52,230
Before we learned the name
Jesse Matthew, who were you?
653
00:38:13,877 --> 00:38:15,837
So, you're a religious man?
654
00:38:26,097 --> 00:38:28,475
I said, "People think
you're a monster."
655
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,020
He definitely did not
accept the responsibility.
656
00:38:32,729 --> 00:38:37,025
He doesn't see himself
the way other people see him.
657
00:38:38,234 --> 00:38:42,822
The other part of the interview
that was very powerful,
658
00:38:42,947 --> 00:38:46,743
sometimes when someone
doesn't say anything --
659
00:38:46,826 --> 00:38:51,498
when I asked him,
"You struck in the fall.
660
00:38:51,581 --> 00:38:53,792
Was there a reason for that?"
661
00:38:53,875 --> 00:38:57,837
And he sighed and took a moment.
662
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,849
To me, that was admitting that,
yes, there was a trigger.
663
00:39:09,974 --> 00:39:13,520
There was a reason why
he struck in the fall,
664
00:39:13,645 --> 00:39:16,523
that there was some trigger.
665
00:39:16,606 --> 00:39:19,317
He was not forthcoming.
666
00:39:19,401 --> 00:39:27,325
To this day, he does not seem
to have any sort of remorse.
667
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,996
Gil Harrington: I would've loved
to see how Morgan turned out.
668
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,626
Morgan was just so full
of potential.
669
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:38,628
And all I've got is this box
of ashes
670
00:39:38,712 --> 00:39:40,714
sitting on my coffee table.
671
00:39:40,839 --> 00:39:42,882
That's all I've got.
672
00:39:43,675 --> 00:39:47,345
Longo: I never had the privilege
of meeting Hannah Graham,
673
00:39:47,429 --> 00:39:50,432
but I remember thinking
at her memorial service,
674
00:39:50,557 --> 00:39:55,145
every person that got up
and talked about her
675
00:39:55,228 --> 00:39:57,939
talked about how Hannah Graham
made them better --
676
00:39:58,064 --> 00:40:02,152
better softball coach,
better friend.
677
00:40:02,235 --> 00:40:05,989
She added to everyone she met
in some way, shape, or form.
678
00:40:06,072 --> 00:40:07,323
That was the Hannah Graham
679
00:40:07,407 --> 00:40:10,452
that I came to know
out of this tragedy.
680
00:40:12,078 --> 00:40:14,914
Dan Harrington: As time went on,
we had to figure out,
681
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,625
how do we deal with grief?
682
00:40:17,751 --> 00:40:19,502
And for Gil and me,
683
00:40:19,586 --> 00:40:23,506
the way that we dealt with
our grief with Morgan's death
684
00:40:23,590 --> 00:40:26,343
was to find something good.
685
00:40:27,427 --> 00:40:32,057
♪♪
686
00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:33,933
Gil Harrington: I did indulge
in some self-pity
687
00:40:34,059 --> 00:40:38,438
for a short while, and then,
I said, "You know what?
688
00:40:38,521 --> 00:40:44,319
If we've got ashes, with ashes,
you can make cinder blocks,
689
00:40:44,444 --> 00:40:46,988
and with cinder blocks,
you build."
690
00:40:49,616 --> 00:40:53,453
And I did take some of
those ashes with me to Africa
691
00:40:53,578 --> 00:40:57,999
and mixed them in the foundation
of Morgan's school.
692
00:40:58,124 --> 00:41:01,002
Morgan was going to school
for a degree in education.
693
00:41:01,127 --> 00:41:04,089
She wanted to teach.
694
00:41:04,172 --> 00:41:08,677
♪ We are happy to see you here ♪
695
00:41:09,427 --> 00:41:11,262
Gil Harrington:
Morgan never made it to Zambia.
696
00:41:11,346 --> 00:41:13,890
But more students
are being educated
697
00:41:13,973 --> 00:41:16,184
in the Morgan Harrington
Educational Wing
698
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:19,062
at Omni Village in Ndola,
Zambia,
699
00:41:19,145 --> 00:41:22,023
than Morgan
would ever have taught
700
00:41:22,148 --> 00:41:24,401
if she lived to be
200 years old,
701
00:41:24,484 --> 00:41:28,446
and that is how we choose
to neutralize evil.
702
00:41:34,327 --> 00:41:35,412
Jesse Matthew Jr.
703
00:41:35,495 --> 00:41:38,164
is currently serving
seven life sentences.
704
00:41:38,248 --> 00:41:40,166
Having never honestly spoken
openly
705
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:41,793
about the crimes he committed,
706
00:41:41,876 --> 00:41:44,546
the true extent of his reign
of terror may never be known.
707
00:41:44,671 --> 00:41:47,507
Hannah Graham's parents
don't speak publicly
708
00:41:47,632 --> 00:41:49,175
about their daughter's murder.
709
00:41:49,259 --> 00:41:51,636
Morgan's parents,
Gil and Dan Harrington,
710
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:53,013
have channeled their grief
711
00:41:53,138 --> 00:41:55,515
into a nonprofit called
Help Save the Next Girl.
712
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,435
Their mission is to educate
young women and girls
713
00:41:58,518 --> 00:42:01,521
about predatory danger
on college campuses.
714
00:42:01,646 --> 00:42:03,023
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
715
00:42:03,148 --> 00:42:04,691
Thank you for watching.
716
00:42:04,774 --> 00:42:06,901
Good night.
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