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Gardner: There was a series
of unexplained deaths
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on wards where he worked.
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Man: When he came out
of this patient's room,
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the patient was dead.
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Fischer: He was telling us
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that there was a doctor
that went by his room
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every single night,
pushing a cart
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and pointing at him,
saying, "You're next."
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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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Michael Swango --
former Marine,
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award-winning scholar,
trusted physician.
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On the surface,
he seemed like a hero,
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but there was nothing heroic
about Dr. Swango.
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He was, in fact,
a dangerous killer,
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obsessed with poison and death.
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He reveled in human suffering.
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Dr. Swango's murder spree
spanned nearly two decades.
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How did this
healer-turned-serial killer
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get away with this for so long?
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Here's part two
of "Dr. Death: You're Next."
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{\an8}Michael Swango, he just looks
like the kind of guy
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{\an8}you would want
to be your doctor.
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{\an8}I have tried my utmost to be
the best person
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{\an8}and the best physician I can be,
and that's all anyone can do.
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{\an8}He was a very polite,
good-looking young man
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who was very articulate,
a former Marine,
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and there was nothing
that was not glowing about him.
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Reporter:
But people think Swango may be using his brilliant mind
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and medical skills
to play with people's lives.
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{\an8}This was a person
who should not be
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{\an8}licensed to practice medicine.
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{\an8}Lower: Michael Swango
was a convicted felon.
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{\an8}He had poisoned his co-workers
as an EMT in Quincy, Illinois.
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{\an8}I'm not thinking that that
doughnut that I'm eating
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{\an8}is laced with poison.
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{\an8}Nobody thinks
that the cup with soda
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{\an8}is gonna be injected
with arsenic.
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{\an8}That's what makes him
so dangerous.
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{\an8}He was trying to kill me.
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{\an8}You had this trail --
this trail of death
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{\an8}and illness
under suspicious causes
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{\an8}that were attached
to this doctor.
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{\an8}When he was in medical school,
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{\an8}his fellow students
referred to him
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{\an8}as "Double-O Swango --
License to kill."
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{\an8}He had the highest death rate
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{\an8}of any of the interns
down there.
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{\an8}Lower:
Swango was dismissed
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{\an8}from the surgical
residency program
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{\an8}at the Ohio State University
hospitals.
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{\an8}Nurses are all afraid
to be around him.
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{\an8}They sense something is wrong
with this man.
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Lower:
According to reports,
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Swango was suspected of killing
at least one patient there.
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Montanari: Cindy McGee was
a 19-year-old gymnast.
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She was in a trauma unit.
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{\an8}But we could see
she was getting better.
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Sackman:
She's actually improving
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until she gets a visit
from Michael Swango.
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Then she dies unexpectedly.
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{\an8}There may have been
some warning signs,
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but they really didn't add up
those things at the time.
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Some doctor was
poisoning people.
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This was a murderer.
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Jordan: After serving two years
of his five-year sentence
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for poisoning his colleagues,
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{\an8}Dr. Michael Swango is released
from Centralia Prison
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in August of 1987.
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After he got out, I didn't know
whether he would be coming after
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for revenge or not.
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The news-media outlets
were somewhat concerned,
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because we knew
we were portraying him,
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you know, in a not-good light.
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But I don't think the general
public had any real concern
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'cause he was not
on anybody's radar.
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{\an8}Back then, you didn't have
a 24-hour news cycle,
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and this would've stayed
a local story
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and people outside that region
would not know who he was.
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And he used that
to his advantage
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because he still wanted
to practice medicine,
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and he still wanted
to kill people.
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And that's exactly
what he did.
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Lower: Michael Swango has been
a first-year resident,
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a student doctor, in Sioux Falls
for the past five months.
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He worked in all three hospitals
here,
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but it wasn't until this story
aired on the "Justice Files,"
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that people began worrying
about Dr. Swango.
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We got a tip from someone who
worked at one of the hospitals.
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This person recognized him
on a show
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she had watched
the night before.
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It was called "Justice Files."
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It talked about how he had
poisoned his co-workers,
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and she was like,
"What in the world is this guy
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doing in our medical residency
program and treating patients?
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This guy could be dangerous."
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Jordan: The story on
the Discovery Channel series
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"Justice Files"
was actually a repeat.
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It had originally aired
on ABC's "20/20"
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on February 13, 1986.
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While Dr. Michael Swango
was in prison
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for poisoning his colleagues,
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he sat down for an interview
with John Stossel.
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Stossel: We got permission
from the prison in Illinois
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{\an8}to interview him,
and he was very convincing.
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I'm not guilty.
I didn't do those things.
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In that ABC News program,
"20/20,"
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Dr. Michael Swango had
an answer for everything.
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I would say, "Well, what about
the ant poison?"
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"I had an ant problem."
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I don't know anything
about ants.
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All I know is I had
an ant problem,
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and I took care of it
as best I could.
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"What about all these
other poisons?"
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"Oh, if you looked
in any suburban home,
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you'd find lots of things
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that the lawyers could spin
as a poison."
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Okay.
Started to wonder.
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You hear of the horrendous
things that he's accused of
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and that he's been
found guilty of.
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And, you know, you just think,
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"Well, this has to be
some kind of a monster,"
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but that's not
how he comes across.
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{\an8}Wipf: The crime did not fit
the person in front of you.
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When the report came on
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and they put a picture up
of Mike
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{\an8}and said that he was accused
of poisoning his co-workers,
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you could've knocked me
over with a feather
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because I couldn't believe it.
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Jordan: The staff
at all three medical centers
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where Dr. Michael Swango worked
were shocked,
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but no one was more
surprised than his fiancée,
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a nurse named Kristin Kinney,
also known as K.K.
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Wipf: K.K. worked with us,
and she also didn't believe it.
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She just said,
"Not the Mike I know."
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I thought he was guilty
going in,
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and then during the interview,
I had doubts.
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And by the end of it,
I was thinking,
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"Maybe he didn't do it."
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Lower:
Dr. Michael Swango's future
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in the internal medicine
residency program
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here in Sioux Falls
is uncertain
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after the Discovery Channel
aired a program
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on Swango's conviction
for poisoning paramedics.
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{\an8}Now, I didn't think that you
could spend time in jail
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{\an8}for poisoning people
and come out and be a physician,
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but, boy, I was wrong, because
that's exactly what he did.
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Lower: This is a common scene
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at all three
Sioux Falls hospitals,
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employees reviewing files --
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{\an8}files of patients who were
treated by Dr. Michael Swango.
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{\an8}The hospitals did their
own investigations.
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{\an8}And what they told me is that
they looked at every case
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{\an8}that he had anything to do with.
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{\an8}And a review of all the patients
did ultimately conclude
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{\an8}that he had had nothing to do
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with anything
that had happened here.
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But the fear with Swango
was high.
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We didn't know at the time
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if he was a danger
to anybody but a patient.
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Wipf:
We had had a Christmas party.
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{\an8}The party was at one
of our nurses' house,
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{\an8}and her husband was a detective
on the police force.
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And so he literally followed
Mike everywhere he went
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to make sure
that he wasn't putting anything
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in any of the food or whatever.
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All of us were
pretty okay with that.
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Reporter #1:
Dr. Michael Swango is suspended
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from working
in the Sioux Falls hospitals
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because he lied about his past.
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Governor George Mickelson
wants Swango fired immediately.
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He wants to know
the whole story
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of how Dr. Swango ended up here.
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Lower: We talked
to the admissions' director
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from the University
of South Dakota medical school,
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and that was really
kind of enlightening
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because Swango did put down
that he had a felony,
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but he explained it away
by saying,
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"Well, it was
a misunderstanding."
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Jordan: Swango did admit
that he was in prison.
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{\an8}He just didn't tell the truth
about why he had been there.
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{\an8}He lied.
He said he was in a bar fight.
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{\an8}McCarthy:
He had the story about him
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{\an8}coming to some woman's aid
in a bar/restaurant
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{\an8}when she was being harassed
by some other people
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{\an8}and getting into a fist fight
and he hurt people.
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{\an8}I ended up ultimately talking
to the head of the department
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{\an8}at the University
of South Dakota,
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and he was kind of astonished
to learn
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that Michael Swango
had been convicted
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of administering
a toxic substance.
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Salem: I was not aware
of the full facts
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{\an8}or the full circumstances
surrounding his situation.
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I think he just talked his way
into these places.
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And people would believe him
because he was believable.
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The whistle was blown,
and they kicked him out.
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{\an8}I want to clearly acknowledge
that we made a mistake
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in admitting this person
into our program.
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He wanted to do an interview
with me on camera
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just to try to convince
people that he was innocent.
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Michael Swango says
he should be allowed
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to stay in the residency program
because he did nothing wrong.
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{\an8}We discussed fully
what the implications were
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{\an8}of coming into the program,
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{\an8}the possibility
of completing three years
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{\an8}and then being licensed.
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{\an8}It was certainly something
that I deserved
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{\an8}to have the chance to do.
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When it got toward the end
of this whole investigation,
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he was talking to everybody
about everything,
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anything, you know,
just to try to convince people
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that he was,
you know, innocent.
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Jordan:
Despite his claims of innocence,
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Dr. Michael Swango
was officially dismissed
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from the medical-school program
in South Dakota,
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and in the spring of 1993
he and his fiancée,
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Kristin Kinney, left town.
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When they went into his house
after he was gone,
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it was full of poisons.
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And after he left
Sioux Falls,
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supposedly the behavior
really did not change.
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It was like he skirted
right under the law.
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{\an8}♪♪
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{\an8}My father's name
was Thomas Sammarco.
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He was in the Army --
World War II.
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My father was confined
to a wheelchair
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from an accident at work,
but he went into the V.A.
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for his checkups
and stuff like that.
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He was there for an examination.
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He was fairly healthy,
and then all of a sudden,
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he got sick when he was there,
and the nurse had told us
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that he had a staph infection
in the brain.
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And they put him in ICU.
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Every time we went up
to visit him,
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he was telling us
that there was a doctor
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that went by his room
every single night,
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pushing a cart
and pointing at him,
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saying, "You're next."
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He was just a young,
nice-looking doctor
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who we now know
is Michael Swango.
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{\an8}Michael Swango's story was out.
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Reporter #2: The twisted odyssey
of Dr. Swango begins in 1982
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with mysterious deaths
in medical school.
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Yet he advances
to prestigious Ohio State,
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where he's linked
to more deaths.
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He moves on to Quincy, Illinois,
where he is convicted and jailed
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for poisoning
co-workers with arsenic.
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Yet in 1992, he's practicing
medicine again in South Dakota.
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A year later,
he's on Long Island.
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Jordan:
And it followed him to New York,
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where he was now
practicing medicine.
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{\an8}How does this happen?
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{\an8}How does he keep getting
into these places?
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{\an8}Sackman: I got a call
from the chief of psychiatry
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{\an8}at the Northport V.A.
Medical Center,
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{\an8}and she said, "You know, Bruce,
you're not gonna believe this,
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{\an8}but there's actually
a physician here,
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{\an8}working here at the V.A.,
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{\an8}and he's suspected
of killing people."
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{\an8}It seemed impossible to me,
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{\an8}but you don't know
until you check it out.
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{\an8}Maybe there's something there.
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{\an8}Maybe there's not.
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Let's take a look,
see what's going on.
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Sackman:
We found Michael Swango,
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and let me tell you something,
he was the most handsome,
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charming person
you'd ever want to meet.
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You know,
if I didn't know better,
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I'd want to introduce him
to my daughter.
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We talked to him briefly.
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Sackman: We said,
"You know, doctor,
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we heard that there's some story
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in the news about you
actually poisoning people.
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Is that true?"
And he says, "Oh, no, no, no.
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This was all just
a big misunderstanding."
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And I said, "Well, thank you
very much, Doc.
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You know, I really
appreciate that,
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but could we just take
a look around your room?"
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And that's when his attitude
completely changed.
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And then he said,
"No, you can't,
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and this interview is over."
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Just the way his eyes were --
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uncomfortably sneaky-looking,
sinister.
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And Tom and I are looking
at each other.
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Something's not right here.
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The decision was made --
get him out of the hospital.
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Get him out.
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Sackman: And then the next thing
you know,
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a few days later,
Michael Swango's gone.
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Don't know where he is.
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{\an8}So the FBI typically
doesn't work murder cases,
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but in this instance,
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because it involved
a V.A. hospital,
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the property belongs
to the United States government,
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then it automatically falls
under FBI jurisdiction.
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Jordan: The FBI tracked him
to Atlanta, Georgia,
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before the trail went cold.
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Neer: And he was working for,
in my understanding,
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it was
a water-treatment facility,
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which was quite alarming.
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{\an8}By this time, we had learned
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{\an8}that he had an intense
interest in poisoning,
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{\an8}that he had previously
been arrested
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for poisoning co-workers,
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and that he was
suspected of poisoning
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and killing patients
in several hospitals.
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Anybody with that history
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would look upon
a water-treatment facility as,
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in our estimation,
a potential opportunity.
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McCarthy: Then they went looking
for him, and he was gone.
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Neer: He disappeared.
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And then we lost track of him.
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McCarthy:
At that point, he's a fugitive.
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{\an8}We consulted with the BAU,
the behavioral science unit.
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And they were of the opinion
that this offender
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would still be in
the medical field somewhere.
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He's going to be using
some of those skills,
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and he's going
to be killing people.
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{\an8}So we started really doing
a pretty robust investigation
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{\an8}of his time
at the V.A. hospital
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in Northport on Long Island.
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By that time, we didn't have
any evidence
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that he actually
had harmed anybody
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at the Northport
V.A. Medical Center.
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But they did know
he was guilty of something.
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Gardner: They weren't sure
about the suspicious deaths.
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They were sure that he had
lied about his background.
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He lied about the fact that
he had qualified as a physician.
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He graduated
from medical school,
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but he hadn't become licensed
in any way,
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and he lied about that.
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{\an8}He still needed to complete
his residency.
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Gardner: He also lied about
an assault conviction.
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He said it was a fight in a bar.
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Jordan: Swango then took it
one step further,
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creating falsified documents
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that appeared to absolve him
of all these charges.
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{\an8}I've got a document
in my briefcase that he forged.
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It was from the Illinois
Department of Corrections,
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and it said he was in there
on aggravated battery,
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but it said that he hit
someone with his fist.
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Didn't say anything
about poisoning.
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Cashman: He forged a letter
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saying he had his sentence
commuted
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and his civil rights restored
by the governor of Virginia,
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which I thought was
kind of interesting,
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{\an8}how the governor of Virginia
could do that
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{\an8}since it was an Illinois case,
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but he did a lot of things
like that,
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and they bought it all the time.
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Jordan: Swango's lying
wasn't just bad judgment.
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If you lie on a federal
job application,
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it's actually a felony
punishable by time in prison.
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Gardner: There was a flat-out
lie to a federal agent,
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who in this case
was the head doctor
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at the hospital
where he was interviewed.
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If you lie on your application,
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that's a false statement
to the government.
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Something we call
18 U.S.C. 1001,
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a false statement charge.
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It's, like, one of the mildest
felonies we charge people with,
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but that would be something we
could at least capture him with,
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and we knew he was
much more dangerous than that.
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The government had an abundance
of concern
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that he would continue
to poison people,
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continue to murder people.
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The concern was,
"Get him off the street
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as quickly as possible
with what we have."
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Gardner: We indicted him for
perjury, and we filed a warrant,
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and the warrant gets filed
not only in the United States
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but internationally.
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"If you see this guy,
arrest him."
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So that's the best we could do
at that point.
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Gagliano: But four more years
would transpire
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before there was a break
in this case
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that pointed them
in the right direction
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of where Michael Swango was.
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{\an8}♪♪
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{\an8}♪♪
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Welcome back
to "Very Scary People."
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In 1993, Dr. Michael Swango,
a prolific poisoner
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and suspected
serial killer, vanished.
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Many believed he fled
the country.
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The FBI and Interpol launched
an international manhunt,
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but after more than four years,
his trail had gone cold.
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Then authorities got the break
they needed
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when Michael Swango tried
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to sneak back
into the United States.
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{\an8}I got a call from an FBI agent
saying,
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{\an8}"Do you know a person
by the name of Mike Swango?"
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My heart sank because I thought,
"Oh, God. What's going on?"
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I said, "Yeah, that's my case."
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He says, "Well, we have him
here in Chicago."
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00:19:32,297 --> 00:19:37,469
{\an8}♪♪
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Neer: Michael Swango was coming
back into the United States.
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He comes into Chicago, and you
have to present your passport,
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{\an8}and the passport officials
scan it.
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{\an8}And then all of a sudden,
what popped up --
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{\an8}There's a warrant
for his arrest.
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{\an8}We had an arrest warrant for him
ready for fraud,
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{\an8}not for murder,
and we grabbed him on that.
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{\an8}And they detained him, and they
took him back to New York.
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Reporter #3:
Today, Swango was arraigned
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on a federal fraud charge
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in connection
with lies he allegedly made
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to get hired
as a resident in 1993.
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I got all the evidence
that he was traveling with
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when he was arrested
and all of his travel documents.
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And he had a really
interesting passport.
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Neer: Now, what we learned
by looking at his passport
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was that he had been in Africa.
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So it turned out that
when he left Northport,
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he eventually found
his way to Zimbabwe.
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So now we're gonna have to look
at what happened in Zimbabwe.
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Jordan: They put together a team
of investigators,
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{\an8}and they hoped that Africa
would be able to offer them
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the clues that would help them
build their case.
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McCarthy:
We had to get to Africa.
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{\an8}We thought if he got sloppy
anywhere,
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{\an8}if he was willing
to take a chance,
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{\an8}it would be over there.
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Maybe he's done something in
Africa that can help inform us
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about what these murders were
about here in the United States.
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{\an8}♪♪
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{\an8}♪♪
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Dongozi: Zimbabwe is the most
beautiful country in the world.
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{\an8}I'm not ashamed to say that.
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It's a world of wonders.
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Neer:
It's a beautiful country.
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It was my first time in Africa,
when I traveled over there.
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Valery:
At that particular time,
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{\an8}Zimbabwe was in the middle
of the AIDS epidemic.
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{\an8}There was a shortage
of doctors in Zimbabwe,
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{\an8}and there were many
foreign doctors
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who came to practice
because of the shortage.
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Neer: Michael had come
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through the Evangelical
Lutheran Church,
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and there was a pathway for
bringing foreign doctors over.
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McCarthy:
When he got to Africa,
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people at the hospital
asked him,
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"With your background,
why are you coming here?"
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And he would tell them,
"Well, I've been so blessed,
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I think it's time I gave back,"
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and people were dying to
hear that and believe it.
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Swango was assigned
to the Mnene Mission Hospital.
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The people he treated
were mostly obstetric patients
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who were delivering babies.
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Neer:
Within a short period of time,
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the staff realized
that he was deficient
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in some of the most
basic medical procedures,
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certainly in obstetrics.
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And so that was the first sign
of potential trouble.
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Gardner: We learned he also
might be connected
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to some suspicious deaths
that occurred at the hospital
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during the time
that he worked there.
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Jordan: The U.S. team included
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forensic pathologist
Dr. Michael Baden,
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and he was looking for poison
469
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in several of Swango's
possible victims.
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We had hired
local grave diggers,
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and we would transport
the bodies back to Bulawayo,
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where Dr. Michael Baden would
do autopsies and take samples.
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We also were able to actually
talk to a live witness.
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And there were two or three
cases where there were people
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who experienced
some sort of intense pain
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right after he injected him
with something.
477
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Gardner: There was this rush
of adrenaline to the point where
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they thought they were gonna
have a heart attack and die,
479
00:23:45,717 --> 00:23:49,554
and this elderly gentleman
that I spoke to in Zimbabwe
480
00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:51,264
said exactly that.
481
00:23:51,348 --> 00:23:53,141
He said, "I thought I was gonna
have a heart attack and die."
482
00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:24,506
Other survivors
shared terrifying tales.
483
00:24:24,589 --> 00:24:27,050
And one of them
was a pregnant woman.
484
00:24:33,723 --> 00:24:37,060
Neer: And Swango injected
something into her I.V. bag.
485
00:24:37,185 --> 00:24:39,562
And then she felt this intense
shooting of pain
486
00:24:39,646 --> 00:24:41,022
through her body
487
00:24:41,106 --> 00:24:43,483
and then this rigidity
and she could barely move.
488
00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:45,610
But she caught the attention
of some staff.
489
00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:48,405
And she said, "He put
something in my I.V."
490
00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:50,031
We believe it was
probably succinylcholine.
491
00:24:50,115 --> 00:24:51,908
Holstege: Succinylcholine --
it is a paralytic.
492
00:24:52,033 --> 00:24:54,619
This causes every muscle
in the body to stop working.
493
00:24:54,744 --> 00:24:56,162
You can't move anything.
494
00:24:56,246 --> 00:24:58,581
{\an8}They're completely cognizant
during that time period.
495
00:24:58,665 --> 00:25:00,333
{\an8}They know exactly
what's going on.
496
00:25:00,417 --> 00:25:02,085
{\an8}And then they also realize
they can't breathe.
497
00:25:02,210 --> 00:25:04,921
A terrifying experience.
498
00:25:05,005 --> 00:25:07,257
McCarthy: The nurse
took the I.V. bag down,
499
00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:09,259
threw it out,
started another one,
500
00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:12,303
and basically saved those
two lives, the baby and the mom.
501
00:25:12,429 --> 00:25:15,598
And at that point,
there was an investigation,
502
00:25:15,682 --> 00:25:18,601
and he was suspended
from working in the hospital.
503
00:25:18,685 --> 00:25:22,439
And he hired an attorney
to fight his suspension
504
00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:23,815
from the hospital.
505
00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:25,650
Coltart:
I then started representing him
506
00:25:25,775 --> 00:25:30,530
{\an8}and seeing these bizarre
allegations leveled against him.
507
00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:31,990
I then said to him,
508
00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:34,367
"Well, I need to see
your professional qualifications
509
00:25:34,451 --> 00:25:38,121
to prove that you are
a competent doctor,"
510
00:25:38,246 --> 00:25:41,541
and that was never
forthcoming.
511
00:25:41,624 --> 00:25:47,047
And I kept asking him,
and he gave a variety of excuses
512
00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:48,423
to such an extent that,
513
00:25:48,506 --> 00:25:51,426
by the time we got
to the labor hearing,
514
00:25:51,509 --> 00:25:57,265
I was starting to question the
veracity of what he was saying.
515
00:25:57,349 --> 00:25:59,434
Jordan: The FBI learned that,
during the two years
516
00:25:59,517 --> 00:26:01,686
that Dr. Michael Swango
lived in Africa,
517
00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:05,148
he not only worked for,
but also volunteered at
518
00:26:05,231 --> 00:26:08,735
several hospitals
throughout Zimbabwe,
519
00:26:08,818 --> 00:26:10,320
and the alleged misdeeds
were not
520
00:26:10,403 --> 00:26:13,490
just happening
inside hospital walls.
521
00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:15,992
Neer: Here's a guy who has been
poisoning people
522
00:26:16,076 --> 00:26:17,994
around the United States
and now in Africa.
523
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,831
McCarthy: He showed himself to
use arsenic in the Quincy case,
524
00:26:21,915 --> 00:26:23,333
so right away, you know
that's something
525
00:26:23,458 --> 00:26:25,168
you're always gonna
have to look for.
526
00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:26,586
Neer:
We found five girlfriends.
527
00:26:26,670 --> 00:26:29,798
We asked them, "You know,
when you were with him,
528
00:26:29,881 --> 00:26:31,424
did you ever get sick?"
529
00:26:31,508 --> 00:26:35,261
And one by one they all went,
"Wait a minute. Oh, my God."
530
00:26:35,345 --> 00:26:37,430
And they realized
they had the same symptoms
531
00:26:37,514 --> 00:26:39,933
as Brent Unmisig
and all these others
532
00:26:40,016 --> 00:26:43,478
that were poisoned
with arsenic.
533
00:26:43,561 --> 00:26:45,146
Jordan: At the end
of their investigation,
534
00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:46,815
Zimbabwe authorities
had uncovered
535
00:26:46,898 --> 00:26:48,608
enough evidence of poisoning
536
00:26:48,692 --> 00:26:53,488
to charge Dr. Michael Swango
with five counts of murder.
537
00:26:53,571 --> 00:26:56,324
And at this time, the Africans
had put out
538
00:26:56,408 --> 00:26:58,076
to several countries
a warning about him
539
00:26:58,201 --> 00:26:59,202
so he couldn't get hired
in a hospital.
540
00:26:59,327 --> 00:27:00,578
McCarthy: The word was out.
541
00:27:00,704 --> 00:27:04,624
He had a feeling his time
in Africa was done.
542
00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:07,252
Neer: When the border officials
came to arrest him,
543
00:27:07,377 --> 00:27:10,380
he literally climbed out
a window and escaped.
544
00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:12,632
And the next thing you know,
he's on a plane.
545
00:27:12,716 --> 00:27:16,011
This guy knew exactly
when to leave.
546
00:27:16,094 --> 00:27:18,179
{\an8}He returned
to the United States.
547
00:27:18,263 --> 00:27:19,848
Neer: 'Cause he wasn't coming
back in the United States
548
00:27:19,931 --> 00:27:21,182
to live in the United States.
549
00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:23,518
He was coming back in
to get back out.
550
00:27:23,601 --> 00:27:27,230
Turns out, he was on his way
to Saudi Arabia.
551
00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:30,734
Valery: He had gotten a job
in Saudi Arabia.
552
00:27:30,859 --> 00:27:36,072
And before he could go,
he had to have a U.S. visa.
553
00:27:36,197 --> 00:27:38,074
Neer: The requirement was
that he could not get
554
00:27:38,199 --> 00:27:39,784
a work visa in another country.
555
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:42,245
He had to get it in the country
where he lived.
556
00:27:42,370 --> 00:27:46,583
If he hadn't returned, I'm not
sure what would've happened
557
00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:48,126
in that point in time.
558
00:27:48,251 --> 00:27:50,462
He would've killed more people
in Saudi Arabia.
559
00:27:50,587 --> 00:27:53,465
That's what would've happened.
I just --
560
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:57,010
I think as long as he was
in a medical facility,
561
00:27:57,093 --> 00:27:58,720
he was gonna kill people.
562
00:27:58,803 --> 00:28:03,808
{\an8}♪♪
563
00:28:03,933 --> 00:28:09,272
{\an8}♪♪
564
00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:14,110
{\an8}Jordan: After more than four
years as a fugitive,
565
00:28:14,235 --> 00:28:17,364
{\an8}Dr. Michael Swango is finally
captured and arrested
566
00:28:17,447 --> 00:28:20,075
{\an8}on a federal count for perjury.
567
00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:24,412
Reporter #4: In 1998,
Swango is convicted
568
00:28:24,537 --> 00:28:25,830
of making false statements
569
00:28:25,914 --> 00:28:27,999
in connection
with his employment
570
00:28:28,083 --> 00:28:29,918
at the Northport V.A. hospital.
571
00:28:30,001 --> 00:28:34,005
{\an8}There in New York, he wasn't
on trial for the murders.
572
00:28:34,089 --> 00:28:36,925
{\an8}He pled guilty
to the perjury charge.
573
00:28:37,008 --> 00:28:38,385
Neer: Everyone's watched
those old movies
574
00:28:38,468 --> 00:28:40,303
about Al Capone as the mobster
575
00:28:40,428 --> 00:28:43,515
who orchestrated the murders
of hundreds of people.
576
00:28:43,598 --> 00:28:46,017
{\an8}And what did they get him on?
Income-tax evasion.
577
00:28:46,101 --> 00:28:48,395
It doesn't matter how you get
him. You got to get him.
578
00:28:48,478 --> 00:28:52,857
The important thing was
to keep him incarcerated.
579
00:28:52,941 --> 00:28:55,694
He was convicted, and he got
three and a half years
580
00:28:55,777 --> 00:28:58,113
in federal prison.
581
00:28:58,238 --> 00:29:00,448
{\an8}So the government had
a ticking clock
582
00:29:00,532 --> 00:29:03,952
{\an8}to bring murder charges against
him to put him away for life
583
00:29:04,035 --> 00:29:06,788
{\an8}and had to make the case
in that period of time.
584
00:29:06,913 --> 00:29:10,041
{\an8}We had 36 months to try
and prove one homicide
585
00:29:10,125 --> 00:29:11,793
{\an8}somewhere in the United States.
586
00:29:11,918 --> 00:29:13,837
So that's what we set
about to do.
587
00:29:13,962 --> 00:29:16,339
Gardner: I do remember walking
out of the courtroom
588
00:29:16,464 --> 00:29:18,967
and turning to the agents
and saying to them,
589
00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:21,469
"Okay, let's not
lose this guy again."
590
00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:23,221
They know they've got
a murderer on their hands.
591
00:29:23,304 --> 00:29:25,640
They just got to be able
to come up with the evidence.
592
00:29:25,724 --> 00:29:31,604
{\an8}♪♪
593
00:29:31,688 --> 00:29:37,360
{\an8}♪♪
594
00:29:37,485 --> 00:29:41,990
{\an8}When you're dealing with poison,
it's very, very hard,
595
00:29:42,115 --> 00:29:44,367
{\an8}because we didn't know
if it was there or not.
596
00:29:44,492 --> 00:29:47,829
{\an8}Dongozi: Michael Swango
always described poisoning
597
00:29:47,912 --> 00:29:49,164
{\an8}as the perfect crime.
598
00:29:49,289 --> 00:29:51,666
{\an8}"No one will know
what they're looking for."
599
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:53,835
It's like a needle
in a haystack.
600
00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:55,795
It was going to be
a difficult case.
601
00:29:55,879 --> 00:29:57,505
It was going to be
a difficult case.
602
00:29:57,589 --> 00:30:00,800
Reporter #5: In 1993,
Dr. Michael Swango worked
603
00:30:00,884 --> 00:30:02,969
at a veterans' hospital
in New York state,
604
00:30:03,053 --> 00:30:05,305
where he had access
to every patient.
605
00:30:05,388 --> 00:30:07,015
{\an8}That made it very difficult
for us
606
00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:11,353
{\an8}because we literally had
to review every medical record
607
00:30:11,436 --> 00:30:14,564
{\an8}of every inpatient
at the hospital
608
00:30:14,689 --> 00:30:16,524
{\an8}at that particular time.
609
00:30:16,608 --> 00:30:18,693
{\an8}So we assembled this team.
610
00:30:18,818 --> 00:30:20,111
{\an8}We had Dr. Michael Baden,
611
00:30:20,195 --> 00:30:23,656
{\an8}we had nurses
that are trained in forensics,
612
00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:25,617
and then we had a toxicologist.
613
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,495
His name was Fred Rieders.
614
00:30:28,578 --> 00:30:31,539
And they pored through
hundreds and hundreds
615
00:30:31,623 --> 00:30:32,957
and hundreds of files
616
00:30:33,041 --> 00:30:37,003
to determine if these
patients expired,
617
00:30:37,087 --> 00:30:40,799
not as a result of their
unnatural disease processes,
618
00:30:40,882 --> 00:30:43,760
but unexpectedly.
619
00:30:43,885 --> 00:30:48,807
And these experts narrowed it
down to about three patients
620
00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:52,686
that they thought died
unexpectedly.
621
00:30:52,769 --> 00:30:54,938
It's not in the charts,
622
00:30:55,063 --> 00:30:59,442
but either Swango was there
or Swango was in the room
623
00:30:59,567 --> 00:31:02,320
shortly before
there was a code called
624
00:31:02,404 --> 00:31:05,573
or he had dialogue
with the family.
625
00:31:05,657 --> 00:31:09,452
So Swango would be the last
person to go in that room.
626
00:31:09,577 --> 00:31:13,123
He would walk out, and sometimes
later the person was dead.
627
00:31:16,334 --> 00:31:18,962
The three patients
identified at the V.A. hospital
628
00:31:19,087 --> 00:31:21,673
were Thomas Sammarco,
629
00:31:21,756 --> 00:31:26,761
Aldo Serini, and George Siano.
630
00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:28,138
Conroy: My stepdad,
631
00:31:28,263 --> 00:31:31,599
he went to the Korean War
when he was like 16.
632
00:31:31,683 --> 00:31:34,436
{\an8}He didn't speak too much
about it.
633
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:35,603
He wasn't feeling well,
634
00:31:35,687 --> 00:31:38,106
and so they took him
to the V.A. hospital,
635
00:31:38,231 --> 00:31:40,692
and they found out
that he had lymphoma.
636
00:31:40,775 --> 00:31:44,529
We went to visit him,
and he was in terrible pain.
637
00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:47,782
We had asked the nurse
if there was anything
638
00:31:47,866 --> 00:31:49,367
that they can give him for pain.
639
00:31:49,451 --> 00:31:51,786
And she said, "Let me speak
to the doctor."
640
00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:53,997
And that's when I met
Dr. Swango,
641
00:31:54,122 --> 00:31:57,876
and he said that he would
give him something for pain.
642
00:31:57,959 --> 00:32:00,170
I never asked him what it was.
643
00:32:01,755 --> 00:32:05,425
And then I got the phone call
that he had passed.
644
00:32:07,635 --> 00:32:11,056
We never even thought
of having an autopsy.
645
00:32:11,139 --> 00:32:13,475
The problem was, those are
complex cases
646
00:32:13,558 --> 00:32:15,143
that take a lot of time,
647
00:32:15,268 --> 00:32:17,312
and so there's a lot of things
that have to be proven.
648
00:32:17,437 --> 00:32:20,565
And the time was ticking away.
649
00:32:20,648 --> 00:32:23,318
Reporter #6: Dr. Michael Swango
is currently serving time
650
00:32:23,401 --> 00:32:24,903
in an Oregon
federal penitentiary
651
00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:26,988
for making false statements
to get a job
652
00:32:27,072 --> 00:32:28,656
at a Long Island hospital.
653
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:32,160
With good behavior, he'll be
transferred to a halfway house.
654
00:32:32,285 --> 00:32:33,870
Jordan:
In order to build their case
655
00:32:33,995 --> 00:32:35,455
before Swango was released
from prison,
656
00:32:35,538 --> 00:32:37,665
investigators needed
actual proof
657
00:32:37,749 --> 00:32:39,876
that the three veterans
had been poisoned.
658
00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:43,880
So they had to ask the families
if they had permission
659
00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:46,675
to exhume the bodies
of their loved ones
660
00:32:46,758 --> 00:32:49,427
and test the tissue for toxins.
661
00:32:49,511 --> 00:32:52,013
I couldn't believe I was
getting this phone call.
662
00:32:52,138 --> 00:32:54,599
{\an8}Tom said they have reason
to believe
663
00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:58,812
{\an8}that my father's death
was not natural causes.
664
00:32:58,895 --> 00:33:00,188
He was poisoned.
665
00:33:00,271 --> 00:33:02,857
It started to fall into place.
666
00:33:02,982 --> 00:33:07,320
That's the doctor that he was
talking about, Michael Swango.
667
00:33:07,404 --> 00:33:09,906
And then we all felt
very guilty
668
00:33:10,031 --> 00:33:13,618
'cause we didn't believe
my father.
669
00:33:13,702 --> 00:33:18,206
And they believed that
two drugs were involved here.
670
00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:20,834
One drug is called epinephrine.
671
00:33:20,917 --> 00:33:22,210
Holstege:
Epinephrine is a stimulant.
672
00:33:22,293 --> 00:33:24,004
A very large dose of epinephrine
673
00:33:24,087 --> 00:33:26,047
can make your blood pressure
go very high,
674
00:33:26,172 --> 00:33:27,716
{\an8}it can make your heart rate
go very high,
675
00:33:27,841 --> 00:33:31,511
{\an8}it can cause you to have
a hemorrhage in your brain,
676
00:33:31,594 --> 00:33:35,306
and certainly you can get to
a dose that can kill somebody.
677
00:33:35,390 --> 00:33:37,434
Sackman: And the other drug
is called succinylcholine.
678
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,561
Unmisig: It's a very
quick-acting paralytic,
679
00:33:39,644 --> 00:33:42,689
and it paralyzes you
and you can't breathe.
680
00:33:42,772 --> 00:33:46,901
And the big question is,
are you gonna be able to find
681
00:33:46,985 --> 00:33:51,364
these poisons
in embalmed tissue?
682
00:33:51,448 --> 00:33:54,951
Valery:
And going down to the 11th hour,
683
00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:57,495
there was not an answer.
684
00:33:57,579 --> 00:34:01,916
Let's assume we missed
the deadline and he was out?
685
00:34:02,042 --> 00:34:03,877
I didn't want to miss that mark,
because if I missed that mark,
686
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,047
I was not gonna find him again,
not for a long time.
687
00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:09,841
But toxicology is everything
in this case.
688
00:34:09,924 --> 00:34:12,385
Back in the '80s and early '90s,
689
00:34:12,469 --> 00:34:16,806
you didn't have
the forensic-analysis tools
690
00:34:16,931 --> 00:34:19,184
that are at our avail today.
691
00:34:19,267 --> 00:34:21,728
Lynch: Scientific testing
has advanced to a point,
692
00:34:21,811 --> 00:34:24,689
{\an8}where scientists are able
to make determinations
693
00:34:24,773 --> 00:34:28,651
{\an8}of the presence of various
substances in the body,
694
00:34:28,777 --> 00:34:30,445
{\an8}specifically in tissue,
695
00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:33,156
{\an8}that they weren't
able to back in 1993.
696
00:34:33,281 --> 00:34:34,616
Valery: In the first victim,
George Siano,
697
00:34:34,741 --> 00:34:38,078
we found a drug
called epinephrine.
698
00:34:38,161 --> 00:34:39,579
In Thomas Sammarco,
699
00:34:39,662 --> 00:34:43,541
we found a drug
that is called succinylcholine.
700
00:34:43,625 --> 00:34:46,336
That is why we decided
to move forward
701
00:34:46,461 --> 00:34:48,046
and charge him with the murders.
702
00:34:48,129 --> 00:34:50,423
But would the charge
come in time?
703
00:34:50,507 --> 00:34:53,635
Michael Swango's prison sentence
was coming to an end.
704
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,471
And he was within a week
or two of being released.
705
00:34:56,554 --> 00:34:58,890
Reporter #6: Swango was days
away from freedom.
706
00:34:58,973 --> 00:35:03,186
His current prison term
set to expire on July 15th.
707
00:35:03,311 --> 00:35:04,813
McCarthy:
I can't let this guy go.
708
00:35:04,896 --> 00:35:06,481
To let him go would be like
allowing a hurricane
709
00:35:06,564 --> 00:35:08,483
that you could stop
hit a major east-coast city.
710
00:35:08,566 --> 00:35:10,485
If he gets out,
people are gonna die.
711
00:35:10,568 --> 00:35:19,661
{\an8}♪♪
712
00:35:22,247 --> 00:35:25,750
{\an8}Lynch: Michael Swango was,
at one point in time, a doctor.
713
00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,211
{\an8}But instead of using his
medical license to become
714
00:35:28,294 --> 00:35:33,675
{\an8}a healer, Swango embarked
upon a career as a killer.
715
00:35:33,758 --> 00:35:36,052
{\an8}Jordan: Just days before
Dr. Michael Swango
716
00:35:36,136 --> 00:35:39,681
{\an8}was to be released from prison
on the perjury charges,
717
00:35:39,764 --> 00:35:44,185
{\an8}prosecutors were able
to indict him for murder.
718
00:35:44,269 --> 00:35:47,147
{\an8}The FBI went to share
that news with him
719
00:35:47,272 --> 00:35:51,943
{\an8}and to let Michael Swango know
that he had a decision to make.
720
00:35:54,946 --> 00:35:57,907
{\an8}Neer: We had the cases together
for New York,
721
00:35:57,991 --> 00:35:59,951
{\an8}and so we went out
to talk to him.
722
00:36:00,035 --> 00:36:02,412
And we said, "We're just here
to tell you something."
723
00:36:02,495 --> 00:36:05,081
And he seemed surprised,
and we said,
724
00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:08,960
"What we're here to tell you
is that you're smart.
725
00:36:09,044 --> 00:36:11,963
You've gotten away
with a lot of murders,
726
00:36:12,088 --> 00:36:15,216
and we may have
the murder cases in New York,
727
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:18,470
but we definitely have
the murder cases in Africa."
728
00:36:18,553 --> 00:36:21,431
Jordan: Dr. Michael Swango had
already been indicted
729
00:36:21,514 --> 00:36:23,975
for five murders
in Zimbabwe, Africa.
730
00:36:24,059 --> 00:36:27,354
And the punishment there --
death by hanging.
731
00:36:27,479 --> 00:36:31,983
There's a treaty between
Zimbabwe and the United States.
732
00:36:32,067 --> 00:36:33,818
McCarthy: An extradition treaty,
which had just been
733
00:36:33,943 --> 00:36:35,737
{\an8}put into effect
by the U.S. government
734
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:37,280
{\an8}and the government of Zimbabwe.
735
00:36:37,364 --> 00:36:40,909
Neer: And Jim handed
the ratification over to Swango.
736
00:36:40,992 --> 00:36:43,119
McCarthy: His face changed.
He went pale.
737
00:36:43,203 --> 00:36:44,746
Neer: And we said, "You know
what we'll do, Mike,
738
00:36:44,829 --> 00:36:46,831
is we'll go over there.
739
00:36:46,956 --> 00:36:48,708
Maybe you'll beat the charges,
maybe you won't.
740
00:36:48,833 --> 00:36:52,087
It gives us extra time
to finesse our cases here."
741
00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:54,005
But he said, "No, you know
the only way
742
00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:56,758
I'm coming back from Africa
is in a body bag."
743
00:36:56,841 --> 00:36:58,677
{\an8}Well, that convinced him
in pretty short order
744
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,137
{\an8}that he should plead guilty
and avoid a trial.
745
00:37:01,221 --> 00:37:03,181
McCarthy: He thought he'd be
hanged pretty quickly
746
00:37:03,306 --> 00:37:04,516
once he reached Zimbabwe,
747
00:37:04,641 --> 00:37:06,351
and he was looking
to make a deal.
748
00:37:06,476 --> 00:37:08,520
So he basically said
that he would plead guilty
749
00:37:08,645 --> 00:37:12,232
if we took Africa off the table,
the death penalty off the table,
750
00:37:12,357 --> 00:37:16,486
and he got to serve his time
in a secure location.
751
00:37:16,569 --> 00:37:17,737
Jordan: In the agreement,
752
00:37:17,862 --> 00:37:19,447
Michael Swango
would plead guilty
753
00:37:19,531 --> 00:37:22,450
to the three murders at the
V.A. hospital in New York
754
00:37:22,534 --> 00:37:24,494
and also to the murder
755
00:37:24,577 --> 00:37:27,622
of 19-year-old Cindy McGee
in Ohio.
756
00:37:30,125 --> 00:37:33,878
The first sentencing was out
on Long Island,
757
00:37:33,962 --> 00:37:36,214
and, of course,
the families are there.
758
00:37:36,297 --> 00:37:38,258
{\an8}I remember when he was brought
before the judge
759
00:37:38,383 --> 00:37:40,635
{\an8}and when we were all there
and they sentenced him.
760
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,932
Swango gets up and he stands up
at attention like an ex-Marine.
761
00:37:46,057 --> 00:37:47,642
McCarthy:
And he admits to the judge,
762
00:37:47,726 --> 00:37:49,102
"This veteran, I gave him
a substance
763
00:37:49,227 --> 00:37:50,895
I knew would kill him
and did so anyway."
764
00:37:51,021 --> 00:37:52,564
Sackman:
"I poisoned these people."
765
00:37:52,689 --> 00:37:54,441
He ran through the whole thing.
766
00:37:54,566 --> 00:37:57,402
What everybody thought
for 20 years was now proven.
767
00:37:57,485 --> 00:37:59,779
He is a serial killer.
768
00:37:59,904 --> 00:38:06,286
{\an8}He enjoyed sitting
on Tom Sammarco's radiator,
769
00:38:06,411 --> 00:38:07,704
{\an8}watching him code.
770
00:38:07,787 --> 00:38:09,039
{\an8}I was furious at that.
771
00:38:09,122 --> 00:38:11,291
{\an8}I'm still furious
when I think about him.
772
00:38:11,416 --> 00:38:12,709
{\an8}I really am.
773
00:38:12,792 --> 00:38:14,961
{\an8}He just didn't have any remorse
in his face.
774
00:38:15,086 --> 00:38:17,922
{\an8}He took great joy in saying,
"Oh, I have bad news for you,
775
00:38:18,048 --> 00:38:19,799
{\an8}but your father died."
776
00:38:19,924 --> 00:38:21,468
That was part of his joy.
777
00:38:21,593 --> 00:38:23,678
He destroyed us.
He really did.
778
00:38:23,762 --> 00:38:25,680
I just asked him to rot in Hell.
779
00:38:25,764 --> 00:38:33,438
{\an8}♪♪
780
00:38:33,563 --> 00:38:37,233
{\an8}He did plead guilty
to killing Cindy McGee.
781
00:38:37,317 --> 00:38:41,780
{\an8}Dr. Swango was tasked
with taking a blood draw,
782
00:38:41,863 --> 00:38:44,074
and he didn't do that.
783
00:38:44,157 --> 00:38:46,951
He gave her a shot of potassium,
784
00:38:47,035 --> 00:38:50,455
which then caused her death
due to the cardiac arrest.
785
00:38:50,580 --> 00:38:53,416
Harp: He said he shot a syringe
in her chest
786
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:54,876
and killed her immediately.
787
00:38:54,959 --> 00:38:56,294
{\an8}It made you angry.
788
00:38:56,419 --> 00:38:58,713
{\an8}Why would he do something
like that?
789
00:38:58,797 --> 00:39:00,215
He didn't know Cindy.
790
00:39:00,298 --> 00:39:03,468
Or was it just an objective
for him to kill
791
00:39:03,593 --> 00:39:05,762
as many people as he could?
792
00:39:05,845 --> 00:39:08,181
Gruber: How many innocent people
has he killed?
793
00:39:08,306 --> 00:39:11,184
{\an8}How many innocent people
has he victimized?
794
00:39:11,309 --> 00:39:15,146
The sad truth is that poisoning
is an under-diagnosed crime,
795
00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:17,440
and I think that there's
probably a lot of people
796
00:39:17,524 --> 00:39:22,362
that have been poisoned and died
and nobody ever suspected it.
797
00:39:22,487 --> 00:39:24,739
Jordan: Investigators believed
that every person
798
00:39:24,823 --> 00:39:26,366
around Michael Swango
799
00:39:26,491 --> 00:39:29,202
could have been
a potential target,
800
00:39:29,327 --> 00:39:32,414
like in the case of
Michael Swango's former fiancée,
801
00:39:32,497 --> 00:39:35,250
Kristin Kinney, known as K.K.
802
00:39:35,333 --> 00:39:38,378
Shortly after she and Swango
left South Dakota,
803
00:39:38,503 --> 00:39:41,339
they broke up,
and she committed suicide.
804
00:39:41,464 --> 00:39:45,969
{\an8}I got a phone call from
my charge nurse at the hospital,
805
00:39:46,052 --> 00:39:49,097
{\an8}and she said,
"K.K. killed herself,"
806
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:52,308
and I just burst into tears.
807
00:39:52,392 --> 00:39:55,520
Sackman: The family kept a lock
of her hair,
808
00:39:55,603 --> 00:39:57,439
and we had that lock tested.
809
00:39:57,522 --> 00:39:59,399
It was loaded with arsenic.
810
00:39:59,524 --> 00:40:03,695
So he'd been poisoning her
for quite some time, too.
811
00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:07,991
Cooper: At the very least,
he seems to be a sick man.
812
00:40:08,074 --> 00:40:11,828
{\an8}At the very most,
he's the epitome of evil.
813
00:40:11,911 --> 00:40:13,455
Sackman: He was sentenced
to life imprisonment
814
00:40:13,538 --> 00:40:15,540
without the possibility
of parole for the murders
815
00:40:15,623 --> 00:40:17,167
that he pled guilty to.
816
00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:19,210
McCarthy:
And, if he ever gets out,
817
00:40:19,294 --> 00:40:21,212
he still has to go back
to Zimbabwe.
818
00:40:21,338 --> 00:40:30,805
{\an8}♪♪
819
00:40:30,889 --> 00:40:34,726
Unmisig: Where he's at, he's in
with the worst of the worst.
820
00:40:34,851 --> 00:40:36,519
{\an8}So the FBI labels him
821
00:40:36,603 --> 00:40:38,855
{\an8}as being one of
the most dangerous individuals.
822
00:40:38,938 --> 00:40:43,485
{\an8}I think that describes how
dangerous Swango is to society.
823
00:40:43,568 --> 00:40:48,615
{\an8}He was brilliant, charming,
and a diabolical killer.
824
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:53,078
{\an8}I know that Michael has only
been convicted of four murders.
825
00:40:53,161 --> 00:40:55,872
{\an8}He contends that there
are hundreds.
826
00:40:55,955 --> 00:40:57,457
{\an8}He says...
827
00:41:06,091 --> 00:41:09,552
Valery: It had nothing to do
with veterans.
828
00:41:09,636 --> 00:41:13,181
It had nothing to do with age.
829
00:41:13,264 --> 00:41:17,602
It had nothing to do
with illnesses.
830
00:41:17,686 --> 00:41:19,479
He liked to kill.
831
00:41:21,356 --> 00:41:27,278
{\an8}♪♪
832
00:41:27,362 --> 00:41:29,989
Michael Swango is serving
four life sentences
833
00:41:30,115 --> 00:41:31,616
with no chance of parole.
834
00:41:31,741 --> 00:41:33,118
Authorities say they don't know
how many people
835
00:41:33,201 --> 00:41:34,703
Swango has murdered
836
00:41:34,786 --> 00:41:38,581
{\an8}but believe the body count could
be as many as 60 worldwide.
837
00:41:38,665 --> 00:41:41,418
{\an8}Retired FBI agents Tom Neer
and James McCarthy
838
00:41:41,501 --> 00:41:44,004
{\an8}regularly visit with him
in prison in the hopes
839
00:41:44,129 --> 00:41:47,132
{\an8}he will reveal information
about other victims.
840
00:41:47,215 --> 00:41:49,509
{\an8}HLN reached out to Swango
for comment.
841
00:41:49,634 --> 00:41:52,345
{\an8}He did respond, but he would not
answer questions
842
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:56,766
{\an8}about any additional crimes
for fear of further prosecution.
843
00:41:56,850 --> 00:41:57,976
{\an8}I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
844
00:41:58,059 --> 00:42:00,478
{\an8}Thanks for watching.
Good night.
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