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Sackman: Let's say
you're so inclined
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to commit a series of murders.
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So what profession and what
location might you choose?
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You'd want to choose a location
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where death is a common,
everyday occurrence.
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If somebody dies in a hospital,
nobody raises an eyebrow.
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You could take that curtain
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and put that curtain around you
and the patient,
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and no one's gonna see
what's going on there.
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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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Physicians take an oath
to do no harm,
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but Dr. Michael Swango
did just the opposite.
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From his early days
in medical school
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until the time he was captured,
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Michael Swango preyed upon
the most vulnerable --
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helpless patients
and unsuspecting co-workers.
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In his nearly 20-year career,
he left a trail of death
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across several states
and two continents.
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What could make
a well-respected,
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charismatic physician become
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one of the most prolific medical
serial killers in the country?
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Here is part one
of "Dr. Death: License to Kill."
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{\an8}♪♪
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Sharkey: Cindy McGee
was a 19-year-old gymnast
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from a suburb of Columbus,
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{\an8}and she was at the Champaign,
Illinois, campus.
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Montanari: I met Cindy when I
was student-teaching in college.
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She was one of my gymnasts.
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She was a team leader.
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{\an8}A lot of energy.
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{\an8}A lot of fun.
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Just a great all-around kid.
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She had a full-ride scholarship
to University of Illinois.
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She was gonna do great things.
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She'd gotten through her
first year of college,
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and her second year
is when this happened.
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She was riding her bike
on campus...
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...and a young man hit her
with his car...
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and pinned her between the curb
and the wheel of the car.
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And she had head injuries.
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O'Brien: She had been taken
to medical facilities
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{\an8}around the University
of Illinois.
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Montanari:
She was in a trauma unit.
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It was very, very scary.
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We went to visit her,
and she was getting stronger.
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Her body was healing.
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Decision was made to bring
her back for rehab at a facility
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at Ohio State University
hospital.
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She gets here,
and, I don't know,
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within, what, a day or two,
she was dead.
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It was...
Yeah, it was devastating.
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And it was a complete mystery --
somebody who was that young,
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who was recovering,
for her to just die that fast.
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Jordan: The last doctor
to see Cindy McGee
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{\an8}was Dr. Michael Swango.
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{\an8}♪♪
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Unmisig: I started working
as a paramedic
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full-time when I was 18.
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One of my first shifts
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{\an8}when I walk in
to the paramedic quarters,
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the director of the ambulance
says,
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"Here's your new partner,
Dr. Michael Swango."
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He's a doctor.
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In my mind, I'm thinking,
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"Why is this guy working
as a paramedic for $10 an hour
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when he could be working
as a physician
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for $100 an hour?"
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{\an8}I remember I asked him,
and he said,
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{\an8}"Oh, I got burned out.
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{\an8}I had to take a leave
of absence."
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Unmisig:
Technically, he was very sound.
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I'm working side by side
with him.
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I'm watching in detail as to how
quickly he can assess the injury
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and how quickly
he can manage the trauma.
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Cullumber: He was a hard worker
and very proficient
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and he loved to work
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{\an8}and he loved to deal
with medical crises.
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We were friends.
We all got along.
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He fit in.
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He was just a down-to-Earth kind
of guy like the rest of us.
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I was getting off shift
that morning,
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and Mike come in
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and he set a box
of doughnuts on the table.
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Unmisig: I thought, "Well,
this is a pretty good guy,
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bringing in some doughnuts."
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So I sat down
at the table there.
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I ate one of the doughnuts.
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Probably 15, 20 minutes later,
I am feeling sick.
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Down the hall,
there was a bathroom,
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and I'm vomiting,
vomiting, sweating,
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and I can hear
somebody else retching.
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Out walks Alan Ingerson.
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I said, "You're sick, too?"
I said, "I'm sick, too."
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Myers: The health department
went to the doughnut shop
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to see if there'd been
any other complaints
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or any other problems
or anything, and there wasn't.
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Unmisig:
The doughnuts are gone.
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There was really nothing
they could test.
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The health department came in
and analyzed the tea
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and the coffee
and anything else
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that may have been
in the refrigerator.
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Myers: And after their
investigation, they determined
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that it had to be something else
that's causing the sickness.
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{\an8}Unmisig: The next night, we had
a local football game here.
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The state of Illinois requires
an ambulance to be
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on standby at football games.
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I was on the ambulance.
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Swango also signed up to be
on that football game with me.
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At halftime,
he offers me a Coke.
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He said, "I'm gonna run up
get a Coke. Do you want one?"
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I said, "Sure."
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I'm drinking this soda,
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and start of the third quarter,
I'm like,
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"Oh, my God, I feel like
I'm gonna get sick again.
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This is unbelievable."
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And Mike Swango comes up to me,
and he goes,
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"What do you feel like?"
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I said, "I feel like very
similar to the previous day."
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And he says, "Nausea, vomiting?"
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He snickers a little bit,
laughs a little bit.
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Very, very odd.
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{\an8}I have tried my utmost
to be the best person
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{\an8}and the best physician I can be,
and that's all anyone can do.
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{\an8}Kreth: I've written to Michael
Swango for over 10 years.
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{\an8}He is an extremely
charming person.
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{\an8}This is how he sees a story
about him.
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{\an8}Dr. Michael Swango graduated
with a degree in chemistry
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{\an8}with high honors
from Quincy College.
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{\an8}Valery:
Michael Swango -- this is a guy
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{\an8}who was an award-winning chemist
when he graduated.
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{\an8}Walker: I remember talking
to his professor.
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{\an8}He was the guy
that always had the answers.
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{\an8}Cook: One of the brightest
students I ever had.
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{\an8}Now, I don't know if he was
the most intelligent,
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{\an8}but he worked extremely hard
at his studies.
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Myers: He could read a book
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and go through that book
in no time
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and close it,
and you could open it up
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and ask him any questions
out of it,
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and he could tell you
exactly what he read.
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And after college, he went
into SIU to become a doctor.
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He would come back to Quincy
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{\an8}and work as a paramedic
part-time during the holidays
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{\an8}and then his vacations
and time off.
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My partner and I had just gotten
to the hospital from a call.
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Mike came in.
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He was working one
of the other rigs.
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He said, "I'm going after sodas.
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Would anyone want one?"
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I said, "Sure."
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And I seen Mike walking down
the hallways
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carrying a soda
and he stopped and darted
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and went into a bathroom.
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Pretty soon he came in,
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and he set the sodas
on the table.
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And he set mine down,
and it was open.
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And I looked at it,
and I looked at him and I said,
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"What, did you go
in the bathroom
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and pee in my soda?" jokingly.
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And he says, "No, no, no,
I wouldn't do that."
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What he told me was that
his stomach was upset,
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so he drank a little bit
to settle his stomach.
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Okay, I believed him.
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I poured it into a glass
with ice,
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drank probably three,
maybe four big drinks of it.
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Pretty soon, I was getting
sick to my stomach.
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So I ran into the restroom
and I started vomiting
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and I really thought
I was gonna die.
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I really did.
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A lady friend of mine
came in to check on me
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and I looked up and I told her,
I said,
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"I think something's not right.
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Go out and get the rest
of my soda."
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She came back in and she said,
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"Well, Mike dumped it
down the drain.
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He thought you was sick
and didn't want any more of it."
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The next morning, my phone
rang at home, and it was Mike.
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He started questioning me.
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"How did you feel?
What did you feel like?
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What did it make you do?
How do you feel now?"
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He wanted to know the symptoms
and everything.
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And I'm thinking,
"This isn't right."
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Meyer: The paramedics said,
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"We think we got something
really suspicious going on,
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and we got to get to
the bottom of this."
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{\an8}And they got together themselves
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{\an8}and started discussing
and comparing notes.
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Myers:
I was telling the secretary,
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who was the aunt of one
of the other paramedics.
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I was telling her about my soda,
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and I'll never forget
the expression on her face.
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Her eyes looked at me,
and her mouth dropped open.
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She said, "The same thing
happened to Brent,"
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her nephew
at the football game.
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Mike went and purchased soda,
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came back, Brent drank it,
in 10 minutes,
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he was behind
the ambulance vomiting.
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Unmisig: My aunt, she was
putting two and two together.
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She looks at me.
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{\an8}She says, "I think
Mike's behind this.
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Every time he's around,
people are getting sick.
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He's the only one
that doesn't get sick.
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Don't take anything from Mike."
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And we thought, "No way."
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It was hard to accept
'cause if you knew Mike,
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you would've never guessed him
to do something like this.
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Cullumber: Michael Swango,
he seemed to get along
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with his co-workers just fine.
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{\an8}Now, they did admit that he had,
really, an odd sense of humor
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{\an8}that would turn the stomach
of most people.
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{\an8}He had this intense fascination
with death and dying.
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I recall one time where I'm on
a call with him and he says,
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"Brent, what's your favorite
or ultimate ambulance call?"
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He says, "Well, mine would be
a busload of children
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hitting head on with
a tanker truck full of gasoline.
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It'd blow up."
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And as he's approaching
the scene,
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seeing the charred bodies
hanging out of the buses,
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the blast blowing kids up
against barbed-wire fences.
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So he's very graphic in detail
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about this ultimate
ambulance call.
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{\an8}You hear someone say things like
that, you know he's not right.
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Stewart: He was obsessed
with violence and death
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{\an8}from as early
as the second grade.
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{\an8}He started keeping scrapbooks
of violent crimes,
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{\an8}accidents, homicides.
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Unmisig: And these scrapbooks,
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they had articles
out of magazines.
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And he was taking a highlighter,
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and he would highlight
the graphic details
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about that individual's death
or about that scene.
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{\an8}Scrapbooks of disasters.
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{\an8}The more gory, the better.
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Neer: I think that this interest
grew and, over time,
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just became a part
of who he was.
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I want you to understand
how demented
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I think this gentleman was.
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Man on television: Right now,I got eyeball on him.
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Unmisig: Greg and I are working,
and we're watching CNN.
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They're getting ready to go in.We're watching them.
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And it the mass shooting
that occurred
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in San Diego at the McDonald's.
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22 people die that day.
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Michael Swango just watches
with a big smile on his face.
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He goes, "Wouldn't that
be great to see?
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My God, you know, this is --
this is unbelievable.
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I wish I was there
to see it all."
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Myers: And he got so excited
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and ran over
and turned the TV up.
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We looked at him,
"What's wrong with you?"
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He wanted to see the death
and destruction.
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For him, violence and death
was sexually arousing.
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Stewart: As he got older,
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he became
ever more fixated on this,
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working as an emergency
medical technician,
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{\an8}so he'd be there at these scenes
of these horrible incidents.
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{\an8}He just loved being an EMT,
appearing on the scene.
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The more cars involved
in the crash,
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the more bodies, the better.
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Unmisig: There was another
bizarre incident
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where there was a call
in the middle of the night.
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They get a report
of a car accident.
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The ambulance races to the scene
only to see that Swango
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was on top of the vehicle.
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He's not there to help them out.
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He's just there to take pictures
of these individuals
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inside this car.
Who thinks like that?
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Saathoff: Death and destruction
were fantasies for him
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but fantasies
that also became realities.
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{\an8}Cullumber:
I was a newspaper reporter
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{\an8}and editor in Quincy, Illinois.
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{\an8}We had a call that some
paramedics had been getting sick
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{\an8}while they were on the job,
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{\an8}and that's basically
all we knew at the time.
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{\an8}You know, I thought, "Well,
there's a flu going around
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{\an8}or something,"
and I kind of blew it off.
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{\an8}We're suspicious.
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{\an8}There's something
weird going on.
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Then Greg gets sick.
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Then, from there, the story
just kind of unraveled.
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Jordan: Paramedics suspected
that their colleague,
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Dr. Michael Swango,
could be responsible
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{\an8}for their mysterious illnesses,
but apart from their suspicions
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{\an8}and his bizarre
fascination with death,
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there really was
just no evidence
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that this charismatic man
could be responsible
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or do them any harm.
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Unmisig: He's a doctor.
He's one that you trust.
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Here he has the hands
to heal and to help.
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{\an8}He is an engaging, personable,
smart, articulate person.
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Why would he do something
like that? This is crazy.
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Jordan: Michael Swango was born
on October 21, 1954,
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in an Army base
in Tacoma, Washington.
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His given name was actually
Joseph Michael,
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but he went by his middle name.
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{\an8}According to family members,
in his mother's eyes,
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{\an8}Michael Swango
could do no wrong.
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{\an8}He had a half-brother, an older
brother, younger brother.
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{\an8}McCarthy: His family moved
to Quincy, Illinois.
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{\an8}His dad was a military man.
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{\an8}Served a long time in Vietnam.
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{\an8}And then when he retired
from the military,
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{\an8}he went back to Vietnam
with the USAID.
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Neer: His father was known
to be a very strict
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and authoritarian figure.
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When they would have guests
to the house,
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the kids would be
marched in formation
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into the living room
to meet the guest and then told,
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"At ease, attention, at ease,"
and then, "Dismissed."
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His mother, by all accounts,
favored him.
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He was the only child
of the three
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who was sent
to a private school.
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{\an8}He's very bright.
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He was valedictorian
of his high-school class.
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And he was considered pretty
much the star of the family.
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Saathoff: He really was quite
an excellent musician.
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When he first went to college
in Millikin, it was in music.
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Gifted with the clarinet.
He got a music scholarship.
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Wolfe: Mike was just
kind of a normal guy.
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{\an8}He was pretty straight-laced,
but he was easily agitated.
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People would just kid him
all the time.
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And, of course,
rooming with him,
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I would hear about it.
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And, boy, there would be times
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where he would be
absolutely lit.
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He would pace the floor,
you know, and I would tell him,
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I said, "You know,
you just got to let that go."
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But Swango did not take slights
very well at all
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because everyone held him up
as this example of perfection.
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Saathoff: For someone
who is super sensitive,
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that feels humiliating,
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and that caused him
to do something dramatic.
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Neer:
He surprised everybody.
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Left his music scholarship
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and then joins
the United States Marines.
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In the Marines, he received
an honorable discharge
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after two years.
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McCarthy:
When he got out of the Marines,
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he went to continue
his education back in Quincy.
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And at some point,
he liked the idea of medicine.
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He finished college
and was accepted
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to Southern Illinois University
medical school.
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Saathoff: In the first half
of medical school,
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he was pretty disciplined
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in terms of having to do well
enough on his tests and exams.
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McCarthy:
But he had several problems.
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There was always somebody dying
or coding when he was around.
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{\an8}There were people who
immediately pointed to him
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{\an8}as having engaged
in highly suspicious behavior.
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{\an8}And the reason for it was
he had the highest death rate
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{\an8}of any of the interns
down there,
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{\an8}and they felt it was more
than just coincidence.
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{\an8}When he was in medical school,
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{\an8}his fellow students
referred to him
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{\an8}as "Double-O Swango --
license to kill."
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Students petitioned the
university not to graduate him.
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And they wrote a letter
to the Dean, and the Dean said,
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"I think we should give
this young man another chance."
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The matter was settled when he
was asked just to repeat
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his last year
of his education, which he did.
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And then he got a really good
offer of a residency
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at Ohio State University.
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Jordan: Dr. Swango spent a year
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at the Ohio State
University hospital
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before returning to Quincy,
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and there his fellow paramedics
started getting really sick.
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His colleagues believed
that he was responsible
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for their mysterious illness,
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but they just didn't have
any proof.
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Meyer: The paramedics themselves
started saying, "You know,
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why is it that it seems like
anytime you work with him,
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you get sick,
I work with him, I get sick?"
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It was apparent to them that,
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"Hey, this guy's doing
something to us."
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But, at that point in time,
I think that there was
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no indication
that we're being poisoned.
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We just wanted to find out
what was going on.
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These paramedics set up
a fake ambulance run
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so that they would have
an opportunity
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to go through Dr. Swango's
possessions
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that were in the paramedic
headquarters without him there.
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I'm working with Swango.
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They sent us out on a fake call.
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30-minute drive.
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Enough time to go
through his bag
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and find out what he's using.
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We want to catch him, and we're
looking for anything possible
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that we can use as evidence.
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Myers:
We found his bag, looked in it,
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00:20:10,293 --> 00:20:14,005
and there was all the bottles
of Terro ant killer.
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{\an8}Terro ant poison,
which contains arsenic.
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Holstege: Arsenic is
a poisoning of antiquity,
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00:20:20,345 --> 00:20:22,597
goes way back in time.
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00:20:22,681 --> 00:20:25,141
Potent toxin,
reportedly tasteless,
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00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:27,018
doesn't take very much
to poison people.
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{\an8}So very hard for us to be able
to detect if we're eating it
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00:20:30,814 --> 00:20:35,485
{\an8}and very easy for a poisoner
to put on various foods.
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00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,195
People, when they eat it,
usually talk about
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having gastrointestinal problems
initially --
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nausea, vomiting, diarrhea.
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And if I was a physician
seeing that patient,
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I'd think he had a bad GI bug.
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We looked it up
on the poison index.
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Bingo.
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Every symptom that it said
it had, I had.
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Well, after that, I was
convinced I had been poisoned.
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{\an8}♪♪
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{\an8}♪♪
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Welcome back
to "Very Scary People."
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Dr. Michael Swango,
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a former Marine
and respected physician,
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00:21:18,028 --> 00:21:21,823
was considered a star in his
hometown of Quincy, Illinois.
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But in the fall of 1984,
that all began to change
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when his colleagues
in the paramedics unit
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became convinced that Dr. Swango
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was putting potentially
lethal doses of ant killer
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in their food and drink.
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{\an8}The paramedics had noticed
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{\an8}that Mike had bottles
of Terro ant poison
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{\an8}in his personal locker at work.
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00:21:45,847 --> 00:21:48,892
{\an8}Terro ant poison
contained traces of arsenic,
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which was used back in the time.
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They have since changed
that compound to make it safer.
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Unmisig: There was one bottle
that was full
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and one that's empty.
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{\an8}So at that point in time,
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{\an8}that's really our first
indication of what he's using.
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And we said, "We're not
playing around here."
439
00:22:07,077 --> 00:22:09,079
My aunt is working
at the hospital.
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00:22:09,162 --> 00:22:12,040
And she's friends
with the director of lab.
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00:22:12,165 --> 00:22:14,959
And she says, "If I bring
you something,
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will you examine it
for arsenic?"
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Myers: It was on a Friday.
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My partner and I
were working the ambulance.
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We had just made a pitcher
of tea
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00:22:30,058 --> 00:22:32,102
with no sweetener in it
or sugar or anything.
447
00:22:32,185 --> 00:22:34,688
And we got a call.
448
00:22:34,771 --> 00:22:36,731
When we came back from the call,
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my partner picked
his glass of tea up
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{\an8}and he took a little sip of it
and he sat down.
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{\an8}He goes, "Oh, this tastes
terrible. This is sweet."
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Greg tasted it, and sure enough,
it was sweetened.
453
00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:52,122
Boy, just like that, I felt
that stomach starting again.
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So we knew we had
something in the drink.
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Meyer: Terro ant poison --
it's sweet, sugary,
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and it attracts the ants
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00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:07,345
and it's got arsenic in it
and that's what kills them.
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Unmisig: He contacted my aunt,
and then she gave it to the lab,
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00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:14,602
where the lab analyzed
the tea...
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00:23:14,728 --> 00:23:17,230
And it came back
with the arsenic.
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Unmisig: ...and found twice the
lethal dose to kill somebody.
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This is real.
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00:23:25,363 --> 00:23:28,033
And we thought,
"What do we do now?"
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We had a candidate running
for President coming to Quincy.
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Reporter: As the sun peeked over
the horizon in Quincy, Illinois,
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00:23:34,748 --> 00:23:36,249
Walter Mondale
was already on the move
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00:23:36,374 --> 00:23:39,586
to whistle-stop through
Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa.
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00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:42,422
Myers: Mike wanted to volunteer
to work the ambulance
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to follow the guy around,
and we thought, "No way."
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We're not sure
what he's capable of.
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Myers: So we went
to the administrator
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and started talking to him
and telling him all about it.
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That's when the police
were called.
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Detective Meyer then came in
and started taking our reports.
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Meyer: They start laying out
all these facts
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00:24:04,402 --> 00:24:05,528
and all these things.
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00:24:05,612 --> 00:24:07,530
My head was just swimming
before the day was over
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because I'm thinking,
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00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:11,785
"What on Earth
am I getting into here?"
480
00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:13,620
Cullumber: For the life of them,
they couldn't figure out
481
00:24:13,703 --> 00:24:16,081
{\an8}why he would do what he did.
482
00:24:16,164 --> 00:24:18,458
Myers: My theory was
he wanted us sick
483
00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:21,795
so he could work our shift
'cause he filled in a lot.
484
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,714
But I don't think that today.
485
00:24:24,798 --> 00:24:27,467
Unmisig: I think
that we were guinea pigs.
486
00:24:27,592 --> 00:24:28,802
He's right there.
487
00:24:28,927 --> 00:24:31,012
So he knows how much
he's given me.
488
00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:32,931
He's seeing the effects,
how long it's taking.
489
00:24:33,014 --> 00:24:34,683
He's asking me questions.
490
00:24:34,808 --> 00:24:37,018
I think he's using this
as calculation.
491
00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:39,229
Neer: Poisoning is
very passive-aggressive.
492
00:24:39,312 --> 00:24:41,564
{\an8}You have an interaction
with the victim,
493
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:44,275
and you get to actually
watch them and delight
494
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,821
in the discomfort
that they're experiencing.
495
00:24:47,946 --> 00:24:49,489
Cashman: I think
he was just using them
496
00:24:49,614 --> 00:24:50,990
kind of as a lab experiment
497
00:24:51,074 --> 00:24:54,244
{\an8}to see how much arsenic
it took to kill somebody.
498
00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:56,454
Myers: But we have
circumstantial evidence.
499
00:24:56,538 --> 00:25:01,126
We don't have anyone seeing him
put the poison in the drinks
500
00:25:01,209 --> 00:25:03,545
or the doughnuts or anything.
501
00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:07,173
I thought, "How am I gonna be
able to prove all this?"
502
00:25:09,259 --> 00:25:11,511
Holstege: We have a window
of opportunity
503
00:25:11,636 --> 00:25:12,762
to detect these toxins.
504
00:25:12,846 --> 00:25:14,222
{\an8}So we'll start looking
for hair, nails,
505
00:25:14,347 --> 00:25:17,017
{\an8}other places where it might
embed for a longer time.
506
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:19,811
Meyer: We had to take hair
samples from all of them
507
00:25:19,894 --> 00:25:23,023
because arsenic tends
to show up in your hair.
508
00:25:23,106 --> 00:25:25,400
The state crime lab came back
509
00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:28,862
and said that there was abnormal
amounts of arsenic
510
00:25:28,987 --> 00:25:30,530
in some
of the paramedics' hair.
511
00:25:30,655 --> 00:25:33,700
{\an8}Brent Unmisig, in particular,
got dosed twice.
512
00:25:33,825 --> 00:25:38,455
Brent Unmisig will tell you
that he was close to death.
513
00:25:38,538 --> 00:25:40,540
Unmisig:
What would have happened if I would've drank all that?
514
00:25:40,665 --> 00:25:43,376
'Cause I only drank half of it,
and I'm in bed for three days.
515
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:46,671
Would they have been able to
link the evidence to my death
516
00:25:46,755 --> 00:25:49,007
if, in fact, I died?
517
00:25:49,090 --> 00:25:52,093
We documented everything we had.
518
00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:54,512
We sent it over to the state's
attorney's office,
519
00:25:54,596 --> 00:25:59,100
and then we went from there
to the arrest situation.
520
00:26:01,144 --> 00:26:03,063
Jordan: The paramedics
and the police set up a trap
521
00:26:03,146 --> 00:26:06,441
{\an8}to get Dr. Michael Swango
to show up at a location
522
00:26:06,566 --> 00:26:09,611
{\an8}where he could be arrested
without incident.
523
00:26:09,736 --> 00:26:11,988
They enlisted the help
of the county coroner,
524
00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:14,574
Wayne Johnson,
to help bring him in.
525
00:26:14,699 --> 00:26:17,869
Myers: Mike was dying to become
a deputy coroner.
526
00:26:17,952 --> 00:26:19,746
He wanted to be
in the coroner's office,
527
00:26:19,829 --> 00:26:23,249
and how they ended up
getting him to come in was,
528
00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:24,417
after they got the warrants,
529
00:26:24,501 --> 00:26:26,252
he called him up
and told him that,
530
00:26:26,336 --> 00:26:28,380
"Yeah, I've decided you can
become a deputy coroner,
531
00:26:28,463 --> 00:26:30,340
but I need you to come
into the county jail
532
00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:33,385
to take your picture
for your I.D."
533
00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:34,678
And when he walked in
to get his picture,
534
00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:36,513
that's when he was arrested.
535
00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:42,686
Meyer: We wanted to search
his apartment.
536
00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:45,480
So we requested
a search warrant.
537
00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:50,694
And then we made a beeline
for where Mike lived.
538
00:26:50,777 --> 00:26:52,821
The landlord let us in,
539
00:26:52,946 --> 00:26:57,033
and we were absolutely
astonished.
540
00:26:59,035 --> 00:27:02,706
This guy had a chemistry lab
in his kitchen.
541
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:04,791
Unmisig: They found poisons.
542
00:27:04,916 --> 00:27:07,043
All different kinds of poisons.
543
00:27:07,127 --> 00:27:08,962
Meyer: He had strychnine,
544
00:27:09,087 --> 00:27:12,215
all kinds of poisons
for killing rats and mice.
545
00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:15,552
15, 20 bottles
of Terro ant poison.
546
00:27:15,635 --> 00:27:18,555
We're taking these pictures
and we're going around,
547
00:27:18,638 --> 00:27:21,641
saying, "Do you see
any ant infestations?"
548
00:27:21,766 --> 00:27:23,143
"No. No."
549
00:27:23,226 --> 00:27:27,230
And we searched
his whole apartment -- no ants.
550
00:27:28,606 --> 00:27:31,234
Unmisig: And they found recipe
cards on how to make poison.
551
00:27:31,317 --> 00:27:34,738
You know, like the cyanide bomb,
ricin, botulism.
552
00:27:34,821 --> 00:27:38,033
3x5 cards, just like somebody
would have in their kitchen
553
00:27:38,158 --> 00:27:40,160
in a box of recipes.
554
00:27:40,285 --> 00:27:42,537
He had a book that had a chapter
555
00:27:42,662 --> 00:27:46,458
on how to poison the water
system of a municipality.
556
00:27:46,541 --> 00:27:48,460
Meyer: And all the pieces
started coming together
557
00:27:48,543 --> 00:27:50,003
like a giant puzzle.
558
00:27:50,086 --> 00:27:53,965
And now I knew in my mind,
as an investigator,
559
00:27:54,049 --> 00:27:56,426
"We got him now.
We got him."
560
00:27:56,509 --> 00:28:00,096
{\an8}But he often was smarter
than everybody else in the room,
561
00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:04,726
{\an8}and he did get away with
many years of horrible stuff.
562
00:28:04,851 --> 00:28:12,525
{\an8}♪♪
563
00:28:15,278 --> 00:28:17,572
{\an8}Jordan: Michael Swango was
facing seven charges
564
00:28:17,655 --> 00:28:18,948
{\an8}of aggravated battery
565
00:28:19,032 --> 00:28:21,368
{\an8}for the alleged poisoning
of his co-workers.
566
00:28:21,451 --> 00:28:23,828
{\an8}He made bail and was out
in the community,
567
00:28:23,953 --> 00:28:27,499
{\an8}which made many people
very uneasy.
568
00:28:30,126 --> 00:28:32,420
{\an8}Unmisig: We're standing outside
of the hospital.
569
00:28:32,504 --> 00:28:34,464
{\an8}We turn around.
Here comes Swango.
570
00:28:34,589 --> 00:28:35,965
{\an8}I'm like, "Oh, my God."
571
00:28:36,091 --> 00:28:38,301
He just kind of looks at us,
each of us,
572
00:28:38,385 --> 00:28:40,303
and kind of just gives
that stare.
573
00:28:40,428 --> 00:28:42,472
You don't know
what he was thinking.
574
00:28:42,597 --> 00:28:43,932
Meyer: So we were trying to run
575
00:28:44,015 --> 00:28:45,975
a loose surveillance
on this guy,
576
00:28:46,101 --> 00:28:49,312
{\an8}but he is nonstop 24/7.
577
00:28:49,396 --> 00:28:51,314
{\an8}He is all over the place.
578
00:28:51,398 --> 00:28:52,982
{\an8}Cashman:
He was not to leave Illinois.
579
00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:55,694
{\an8}In fact, I ordered him
not to leave the city of Quincy.
580
00:28:55,819 --> 00:28:59,698
But he was violating his bail
bond by sneaking over to Ohio
581
00:28:59,823 --> 00:29:02,117
to practice medicine
in emergency rooms
582
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,993
while his case was pending.
583
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:07,455
This whole time
when he's out on bond,
584
00:29:07,539 --> 00:29:09,165
we're just like
needles and pins,
585
00:29:09,290 --> 00:29:12,419
where's he gonna show up next
and what is he gonna do next?
586
00:29:12,502 --> 00:29:14,754
Leeper: We had kept a close
track of him,
587
00:29:14,838 --> 00:29:17,590
{\an8}seeing whether he'd be a threat
to the judge
588
00:29:17,674 --> 00:29:20,802
{\an8}or witnesses
or the prosecution team.
589
00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:23,430
Unmisig: Judge Cashman,
he knew that Michael Swango
590
00:29:23,513 --> 00:29:25,348
was a very
dangerous individual.
591
00:29:25,432 --> 00:29:26,808
He didn't trust him.
592
00:29:26,891 --> 00:29:29,686
So there were ice machines
around the courthouse,
593
00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:32,230
and so he ordered all
the ice machines to be locked
594
00:29:32,355 --> 00:29:36,026
because he feared this guy
is laying down poison.
595
00:29:36,151 --> 00:29:38,028
It was just too easily
accessible.
596
00:29:38,111 --> 00:29:43,074
I found Swango to not be nearly
the endearing, wonderful guy
597
00:29:43,199 --> 00:29:45,618
that he was thought to be
by so many people.
598
00:29:45,702 --> 00:29:47,871
Gruber: We need to find out
more about him.
599
00:29:47,954 --> 00:29:51,541
{\an8}There had to be some things
going on in his past.
600
00:29:51,624 --> 00:29:52,917
{\an8}You don't just get to this point
601
00:29:53,043 --> 00:29:55,337
{\an8}where you start to try
to kill people
602
00:29:55,420 --> 00:29:59,049
without having done
something to lead up to it.
603
00:29:59,174 --> 00:30:02,260
So, you know, I wanted to go
into the past
604
00:30:02,385 --> 00:30:05,221
and see where he lived,
where did he go to school,
605
00:30:05,305 --> 00:30:07,682
how long he worked,
how long he was an intern,
606
00:30:07,766 --> 00:30:11,644
and then find out if anybody
got sick on his watch.
607
00:30:11,728 --> 00:30:13,772
Did any patients die?
608
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:19,277
Jordan: The Quincy police called
the campus police
609
00:30:19,402 --> 00:30:20,820
at the Ohio State University,
610
00:30:20,904 --> 00:30:22,447
where he had done
his internship,
611
00:30:22,572 --> 00:30:24,699
and they wanted to find out
more about his background.
612
00:30:24,783 --> 00:30:27,327
And what they learned
was shocking.
613
00:30:27,410 --> 00:30:30,497
{\an8}It started out simply as
614
00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:33,208
{\an8}an almost routine
background investigation
615
00:30:33,291 --> 00:30:37,003
{\an8}as a courtesy to the police
in Quincy, Illinois.
616
00:30:37,087 --> 00:30:39,839
{\an8}They had asked, "Do you guys
know about this guy?
617
00:30:39,923 --> 00:30:41,841
{\an8}What can you find out?"
618
00:30:41,925 --> 00:30:43,927
And it started out that simple,
619
00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:47,138
and it got more complicated
after that.
620
00:30:47,263 --> 00:30:49,265
Bullock: He was assigned
to the emergency department.
621
00:30:49,349 --> 00:30:53,603
He was a very cheerful,
affable, eager guy
622
00:30:53,728 --> 00:30:55,313
who seemed to always be
in a good mood.
623
00:30:55,438 --> 00:30:59,192
{\an8}And I was surprised to hear that
he wasn't going to be continuing
624
00:30:59,275 --> 00:31:01,611
his residency,
that they let him go.
625
00:31:01,736 --> 00:31:03,613
That was a little bit hard
to understand
626
00:31:03,738 --> 00:31:06,116
because he seemed to be
such a helpful guy.
627
00:31:06,199 --> 00:31:08,493
Why did they let him go?
628
00:31:08,618 --> 00:31:13,289
Harp: We interviewed every nurse
at OSU hospital.
629
00:31:13,373 --> 00:31:15,917
I said, "Tell me what you know
about Michael Swango."
630
00:31:16,001 --> 00:31:18,837
So we started getting tidbits
of, "Well, you know,
631
00:31:18,962 --> 00:31:20,380
he came out
of this patient's room,
632
00:31:20,463 --> 00:31:24,092
he ran in, he ran back out,
the patient was dead."
633
00:31:24,175 --> 00:31:26,761
{\an8}There were at least
four suspicious deaths
634
00:31:26,845 --> 00:31:30,682
occurring on the floors
where Dr. Swango was working.
635
00:31:30,807 --> 00:31:33,810
Gardner: They were of all ages
and circumstances,
636
00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:35,979
but the one thing
they had in common
637
00:31:36,104 --> 00:31:40,817
{\an8}was that Swango was near them
as a doctor at some point.
638
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:42,819
He wasn't even their doctor.
639
00:31:42,902 --> 00:31:45,739
He was just near them
in the ward.
640
00:31:47,574 --> 00:31:51,703
Such as the case of Cindy McGee.
641
00:31:51,828 --> 00:31:53,997
Sharkey: Cindy McGee was
on her bicycle...
642
00:31:56,791 --> 00:32:01,338
...and a young man
hit her with his car.
643
00:32:01,463 --> 00:32:03,423
When they got her stabilized,
644
00:32:03,506 --> 00:32:06,009
they airlifted her
to Ohio State.
645
00:32:06,134 --> 00:32:08,595
{\an8}She's actually improving
until she gets a visit
646
00:32:08,678 --> 00:32:10,305
{\an8}from Michael Swango.
647
00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:13,350
{\an8}Then she dies unexpectedly.
648
00:32:13,475 --> 00:32:16,311
O'Brien: She had a high fever,
and I think that was the reason
649
00:32:16,394 --> 00:32:21,191
{\an8}Dr. Swango was tasked
with taking a blood draw.
650
00:32:21,316 --> 00:32:24,694
And that was to see if she had
an infection of some sort.
651
00:32:24,819 --> 00:32:28,365
Seconds later, he went out, and
she had turned blue and died.
652
00:32:30,033 --> 00:32:31,117
O'Brien:
The cause of death at the time
653
00:32:31,201 --> 00:32:33,703
was deemed to be
due to pneumonia.
654
00:32:33,828 --> 00:32:36,206
{\an8}But we didn't know
how it had happened
655
00:32:36,331 --> 00:32:37,457
{\an8}until a little later on.
656
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:40,460
O'Brien: There may have been
some warning signs
657
00:32:40,543 --> 00:32:43,254
had someone thought it unusual
658
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:46,925
that he was exiting the room
with this syringe
659
00:32:47,050 --> 00:32:51,054
and shortly after that,
she coded and died,
660
00:32:51,179 --> 00:32:55,016
but they really didn't add up
those things at the time.
661
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,354
Nobody had bothered to report it
to the OSU police department.
662
00:32:59,437 --> 00:33:01,940
Jordan: The hospital conducted
an internal investigation
663
00:33:02,065 --> 00:33:03,483
into the death of Cindy McGee
664
00:33:03,566 --> 00:33:06,486
and six other suspicious
incidents,
665
00:33:06,569 --> 00:33:09,322
but they said that there was
no concrete evidence
666
00:33:09,406 --> 00:33:12,242
that Dr. Michael Swango
was responsible.
667
00:33:12,325 --> 00:33:14,619
I think that really
could've been
668
00:33:14,744 --> 00:33:16,413
the stopping point for Swango.
669
00:33:16,538 --> 00:33:21,042
He may have never been able
to practice medicine again.
670
00:33:25,463 --> 00:33:26,923
I think that they just said,
671
00:33:27,007 --> 00:33:29,050
"We've got to get him
out of here."
672
00:33:31,594 --> 00:33:34,431
O'Brien: After the questions
arose from the Illinois police,
673
00:33:34,514 --> 00:33:36,725
they opened a criminal
investigation here
674
00:33:36,808 --> 00:33:38,184
with the OSU police department.
675
00:33:38,268 --> 00:33:40,770
I was pretty shocked
that this had been going on
676
00:33:40,854 --> 00:33:42,355
and no one knew anything
677
00:33:42,439 --> 00:33:45,650
until the day
we got the call from Quincy.
678
00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:48,069
That was our first knowledge
of anything.
679
00:33:48,153 --> 00:33:51,322
People are starting to question
everything that Michael Swango
680
00:33:51,448 --> 00:33:54,534
has done now in Ohio
State University.
681
00:33:54,617 --> 00:33:57,954
We were getting people who say,
"Yes, I saw him in the room.
682
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,081
I've always had a strange
feeling about this guy.
683
00:34:00,165 --> 00:34:02,959
He shows up at places that
he's not the assigned doctor
684
00:34:03,043 --> 00:34:04,252
and he's not on the floor,"
685
00:34:04,336 --> 00:34:07,213
but you can never
get anyone to say
686
00:34:07,297 --> 00:34:11,718
they actually saw him
inject something.
687
00:34:12,844 --> 00:34:14,846
The nurses are all afraid
to be around him.
688
00:34:14,971 --> 00:34:16,973
They sense something is wrong
with this man.
689
00:34:17,098 --> 00:34:20,602
But is that enough to convict?
No.
690
00:34:20,685 --> 00:34:25,815
{\an8}♪♪
691
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,778
Jordan:
Police in Columbus, Ohio,
692
00:34:29,903 --> 00:34:32,405
were investigating
the suspicious deaths
693
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:35,408
that had occurred at the Ohio
State University hospital
694
00:34:35,492 --> 00:34:38,995
where Dr. Michael Swango
had been an intern.
695
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:42,540
{\an8}At the same time,
Dr. Michael Swango was on trial
696
00:34:42,624 --> 00:34:46,670
{\an8}for poisoning his paramedic
colleagues in Quincy, Illinois.
697
00:34:46,753 --> 00:34:48,880
{\an8}From the very beginning,
it was controversial
698
00:34:48,963 --> 00:34:52,926
{\an8}because Mike Swango
had a lot of friends
699
00:34:53,009 --> 00:34:54,386
{\an8}that he went to school with
700
00:34:54,469 --> 00:34:56,304
{\an8}who were convinced
that he was being railroaded.
701
00:34:56,429 --> 00:34:59,516
{\an8}We had a lot of people
thinking we were setting Mike up
702
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,142
{\an8}and that we were
doing this to Mike
703
00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:03,436
{\an8}because we didn't like him.
704
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,146
{\an8}When it came out,
we went through
705
00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:06,815
{\an8}the files at the newspaper,
706
00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:11,778
and, you know, there was nothing
that was not glowing about him.
707
00:35:11,861 --> 00:35:14,322
Jordan: His likability
within the community
708
00:35:14,447 --> 00:35:15,907
was without question,
709
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:19,619
but then Dr. Michael Swango
opted for a bench trial
710
00:35:19,703 --> 00:35:21,454
where only the judge
would hear the evidence
711
00:35:21,579 --> 00:35:22,914
and make a decision,
712
00:35:22,997 --> 00:35:26,167
and that move baffled
many in the courtroom.
713
00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:28,628
{\an8}It was a bench trial,
714
00:35:28,712 --> 00:35:32,924
{\an8}so Judge Cashman
was the judge and the jury.
715
00:35:33,008 --> 00:35:34,467
Cashman: I was a little
curious, frankly,
716
00:35:34,592 --> 00:35:36,678
why he waived his right
to jury trial.
717
00:35:36,803 --> 00:35:40,098
If he had had his case heard
in front of a jury,
718
00:35:40,181 --> 00:35:41,975
I think he would've had a chance
719
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,395
of convincing one
or more of the jurors that,
720
00:35:45,478 --> 00:35:47,814
how could a doctor
do something like this?
721
00:35:47,897 --> 00:35:50,650
{\an8}I think he thought
that he was so brilliant
722
00:35:50,734 --> 00:35:54,154
{\an8}he could convince the judge
of his innocence.
723
00:35:54,237 --> 00:35:58,158
He wanted to go one-on-one
and enjoy that experience.
724
00:35:58,241 --> 00:36:04,622
{\an8}♪♪
725
00:36:04,706 --> 00:36:06,499
Cullumber: What made this case
really interesting
726
00:36:06,583 --> 00:36:08,335
was that there were
no eyewitnesses.
727
00:36:08,418 --> 00:36:10,170
It was all circumstantial.
728
00:36:10,295 --> 00:36:11,838
Leeper: Nobody saw him
729
00:36:11,921 --> 00:36:15,342
putting arsenic in doughnuts
and iced tea.
730
00:36:15,467 --> 00:36:18,636
It was not a cut-and-dried case
by any means.
731
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,263
Meyer: We wanted to find out
732
00:36:20,347 --> 00:36:22,432
where he bought
these Terro ant poison,
733
00:36:22,515 --> 00:36:24,893
{\an8}so we set up
a photographic lineup,
734
00:36:25,018 --> 00:36:28,021
{\an8}took it to Keller's,
which was a farm store
735
00:36:28,104 --> 00:36:31,024
just right down from
the Quincy police department.
736
00:36:31,107 --> 00:36:33,526
Well, they immediately
picked him out, says,
737
00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:37,030
"This guy's in here all the time
buying all the ant poison."
738
00:36:37,155 --> 00:36:43,661
But that in and of itself
is nothing illegal, right?
739
00:36:43,745 --> 00:36:47,248
Cashman: Swango, I think,
also liked the idea
740
00:36:47,374 --> 00:36:49,542
of leaving a trail of evidence,
741
00:36:49,626 --> 00:36:52,420
thinking that it would be
more exciting for him
742
00:36:52,545 --> 00:36:54,005
if he would beat it.
743
00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:56,383
Cashman: He wore his uniform
and drove an ambulance
744
00:36:56,508 --> 00:36:58,593
to the store
where he bought the ant poison,
745
00:36:58,718 --> 00:37:00,929
and the clerk had
a clear memory of him
746
00:37:01,054 --> 00:37:03,223
because he bought basically
all the ant poison
747
00:37:03,306 --> 00:37:04,557
they had in the store,
748
00:37:04,683 --> 00:37:06,810
which is enough to kill ants
all over town.
749
00:37:06,893 --> 00:37:09,229
There weren't any ants
in his apartment, remember?
750
00:37:09,354 --> 00:37:11,731
But now he's got this problem
that he's got to account for
751
00:37:11,856 --> 00:37:15,568
why he's got
all his Terro ant poison.
752
00:37:15,652 --> 00:37:17,445
He calls me up and he says,
753
00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:20,031
"I need you to come
and witness something."
754
00:37:20,115 --> 00:37:21,950
He says, "I've got this horrible
755
00:37:22,075 --> 00:37:25,203
ant infestation problem
in my house."
756
00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:27,747
They weren't there when they did
the initial search warrant.
757
00:37:27,872 --> 00:37:32,377
And so our local exterminator
goes to his apartment,
758
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:34,587
goes in there,
collects some of these ants
759
00:37:34,671 --> 00:37:37,048
that are now running
all over his place,
760
00:37:37,132 --> 00:37:42,345
and later his testimony
comes out in the actual trial.
761
00:37:42,429 --> 00:37:43,805
Cullumber:
Yes, these were ants,
762
00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:45,890
but these were ants
that were native to Florida.
763
00:37:45,974 --> 00:37:47,767
And Swango had just been
to Florida.
764
00:37:47,851 --> 00:37:49,644
Cashman: He brought ants
from Florida
765
00:37:49,769 --> 00:37:50,895
when he had gone to Florida
766
00:37:50,979 --> 00:37:52,605
to see his mother
during Christmas,
767
00:37:52,731 --> 00:37:54,524
but you just don't find
those ants in the North,
768
00:37:54,607 --> 00:37:56,860
and they're not indigenous
to Illinois.
769
00:37:56,943 --> 00:37:59,821
Meyer: Now he's trying to plant
false evidence.
770
00:37:59,946 --> 00:38:03,742
So now I'm feeling even better
about the case.
771
00:38:04,951 --> 00:38:07,328
Michael didn't really
put on any defense.
772
00:38:07,454 --> 00:38:09,497
But he put on a strong
verbal defense.
773
00:38:09,622 --> 00:38:11,291
Meyer:
He was gonna explain the reason
774
00:38:11,416 --> 00:38:12,709
why he had all this poison
775
00:38:12,792 --> 00:38:15,670
was he always had
an interest in toxicology.
776
00:38:15,795 --> 00:38:18,590
Unmisig: In the court, he said,
"I'm a physician. I'm a chemist.
777
00:38:18,673 --> 00:38:20,216
I need to know the antidotes
to these."
778
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,635
You know, on the surface,
it sounds kind of realistic.
779
00:38:22,761 --> 00:38:25,013
Meyer: "I just simply could not
have done these things."
780
00:38:25,138 --> 00:38:27,891
That's one of his arguments
in the trial.
781
00:38:27,974 --> 00:38:29,434
I remember that.
He was saying,
782
00:38:29,517 --> 00:38:32,103
"I just simply could not
have done these things."
783
00:38:32,187 --> 00:38:37,317
And I'm thinking, "No, you did
not simply do these things.
784
00:38:37,442 --> 00:38:38,693
They were very complicated,
785
00:38:38,818 --> 00:38:41,029
very well-thought-out
things you did."
786
00:38:41,154 --> 00:38:43,698
I think he was just
experimenting on people.
787
00:38:43,823 --> 00:38:46,659
They were his little toys
to tinker and toy with.
788
00:38:46,743 --> 00:38:50,538
He thought he was superior,
he had a superior intellect.
789
00:38:50,663 --> 00:38:53,166
He just thought we would
never convict him.
790
00:38:53,249 --> 00:38:58,088
{\an8}♪♪
791
00:38:58,171 --> 00:39:01,591
Reporter #2: In 1985, a Quincy,
Illinois, judge found Dr. Swango
792
00:39:01,675 --> 00:39:03,468
guilty of poisoning
six co-workers there
793
00:39:03,551 --> 00:39:05,178
at a paramedics' station.
794
00:39:05,303 --> 00:39:08,181
The judge in the case
called Dr. Michael Swango,
795
00:39:08,306 --> 00:39:09,599
"a danger to society,"
796
00:39:09,683 --> 00:39:12,310
and said he clearly
performed evil deeds.
797
00:39:12,394 --> 00:39:13,937
Cashman: I found him guilty.
798
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:15,939
He was a doctor,
and he kept telling me
799
00:39:16,022 --> 00:39:18,692
how he would never violate
his Hippocratic oath.
800
00:39:18,817 --> 00:39:20,860
Well, he violated it
in the worst way.
801
00:39:20,944 --> 00:39:23,738
I was happy with the verdict.
Yes, I was.
802
00:39:23,863 --> 00:39:25,031
Relief.
803
00:39:25,115 --> 00:39:27,784
Now we have an opportunity
to put this man away.
804
00:39:27,867 --> 00:39:30,662
At the sentencing hearing,
he asked for probation,
805
00:39:30,745 --> 00:39:32,205
and I can remember him
looking at the judge
806
00:39:32,330 --> 00:39:34,958
and telling him how he would
never get in trouble again
807
00:39:35,041 --> 00:39:37,711
and that he could be
a productive member of society.
808
00:39:37,794 --> 00:39:40,839
But I think Judge Cashman
let him know
809
00:39:40,922 --> 00:39:42,841
that he didn't believe him.
810
00:39:42,924 --> 00:39:44,426
Cashman:
He got sentenced to the maximum
811
00:39:44,551 --> 00:39:46,511
that the law allowed
for that offense,
812
00:39:46,594 --> 00:39:49,723
and that was five years
on all counts.
813
00:39:49,848 --> 00:39:52,225
Cullumber: When Judge Cashman
sent him to prison,
814
00:39:52,308 --> 00:39:55,020
we were all kind of surprised
by the severity of the sentence
815
00:39:55,103 --> 00:39:56,604
because I'd sat through
many cases
816
00:39:56,730 --> 00:39:58,481
where a person convicted
817
00:39:58,565 --> 00:40:00,150
of aggravated battery
just got probation.
818
00:40:00,233 --> 00:40:02,569
And now, in retrospect,
we understand why.
819
00:40:02,694 --> 00:40:05,321
I was convinced that
he was a serial killer,
820
00:40:05,405 --> 00:40:08,199
and somebody needed
to do something.
821
00:40:11,911 --> 00:40:13,121
Cullumber:
When he was sent to prison,
822
00:40:13,246 --> 00:40:15,206
we thought the book
was closed on it.
823
00:40:15,290 --> 00:40:20,795
But after serving two years,
Dr. Michael Swango is released.
824
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,090
{\an8}Now, I didn't think that you
could spend time in jail
825
00:40:24,174 --> 00:40:27,469
{\an8}for poisoning people
and come out and be a physician,
826
00:40:27,594 --> 00:40:31,389
but, boy, I was wrong, because
that's exactly what he did.
827
00:40:31,473 --> 00:40:34,517
Reporter #3: It is a chilling
violation of trust.
828
00:40:34,601 --> 00:40:36,644
As a doctor,
Swango had easy access
829
00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:39,481
to both poison and patients.
830
00:40:39,606 --> 00:40:42,275
{\an8}Look at this guy.
Keep your eyes open.
831
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,735
{\an8}Don't turn your back on him.
832
00:40:43,818 --> 00:40:46,196
{\an8}I think as long as he was
in a medical facility,
833
00:40:46,279 --> 00:40:47,781
{\an8}he was gonna kill people.
834
00:40:47,906 --> 00:40:50,784
{\an8}Neer: Swango injected something
into her I.V. bag,
835
00:40:50,909 --> 00:40:53,745
{\an8}and she felt this
intense pain through her body
836
00:40:53,828 --> 00:40:55,497
{\an8}and she could barely move.
837
00:40:55,622 --> 00:40:58,583
{\an8}My father's death
was not natural causes.
838
00:40:58,667 --> 00:41:00,877
He was telling us
that there was a doctor
839
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,631
that went by his room
every single night
840
00:41:04,756 --> 00:41:07,092
pointing at him, saying,
"You're next."
841
00:41:07,175 --> 00:41:09,052
Nitkewicz:
This wasn't some mercy killing.
842
00:41:09,135 --> 00:41:12,305
He took joy in not
just killing these folks
843
00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:14,557
but in telling their families
that they died.
844
00:41:14,641 --> 00:41:17,602
{\an8}This was a person
who was dangerous.
845
00:41:17,686 --> 00:41:19,854
{\an8}He skirted right under the law.
846
00:41:19,979 --> 00:41:23,024
{\an8}It just kept getting worse
and worse and worse and worse.
847
00:41:23,149 --> 00:41:27,237
{\an8}Cooper: At the very least,
he seems to be a sick man.
848
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,990
{\an8}At the very most,
he's the epitome of evil.
849
00:41:31,116 --> 00:41:37,080
{\an8}♪♪
850
00:41:37,163 --> 00:41:40,417
{\an8}Dr. Michael Swango was convicted
of poisoning his co-workers
851
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,503
{\an8}and sentenced to five years'
prison in Illinois.
852
00:41:43,586 --> 00:41:45,964
{\an8}He continues to proclaim
his innocence.
853
00:41:46,047 --> 00:41:47,841
{\an8}Story could've ended there,
854
00:41:47,924 --> 00:41:49,718
{\an8}but it would be
just the beginning.
855
00:41:49,843 --> 00:41:51,886
{\an8}The twisted tale
of Michael Swango,
856
00:41:52,012 --> 00:41:53,680
{\an8}a doctor turned serial killer
857
00:41:53,805 --> 00:41:57,183
{\an8}continues on part two
of "Dr. Death."
858
00:41:57,267 --> 00:41:58,184
{\an8}Thanks for watching.
859
00:41:58,268 --> 00:42:01,688
{\an8}I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
Good night.
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