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What I heard was Morris Black
was not to be played with.

That, when you're in a moment
of fright and fear,

it's called panic.

They said, if a person
is already dead

and you get
to chopping up the body,

that's called tampering
with evidence.

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And that's another case

and another trial.

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Welcome to "Very Scary People."

I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

When Robert Durst's
wife Kathie

vanished without a trace,
her family suspected foul play,

but there was no proof
of a crime.

No body was ever found.

Eighteen years later,
when prosecutors

opened a new investigation
into her case,

Durst himself disappeared.

He fled to Galveston, Texas,
and began a strange new life --

a new name, new story,
a whole new identity.

He was posing as a deaf-mute
woman named Dorothy Ciner,

until a dead body was discovered
floating in the bay nearby

and a trail of blood led
right back to his door.

It all seemed too bizarre,

but Durst would explain
everything in detail.

Here's part 2
of "Robert Durst,"

"Nobody Tells the Whole Truth."

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Good afternoon.
In the news today,

a reward of $100,000
offered by a husband

to help find
his missing wife.

Robert Durst's wife
Kathie Durst

went missing in 1982.

The wife, 29-year-old
Kathleen Durst,

a medical student
at Albert Einstein College,

disappeared from the couple's
Manhattan apartment.

Once I heard she disappeared,

I think I knew pretty fast
that something bad had happened.

No body turned up.

There's no crime scene, even.

And the case just lost
all momentum after a while.

Then, 18 years later,
there's this new investigation

in the disappearance
of Kathie Durst.

Pirro:
I have a lot of questions.

It appears that things

are not what they seemed
to be in 1982.

When he learns that there's
a new investigation

and he's going to come
under scrutiny, once again,

Bob was in a panic.

What he does is he goes
down to Galveston

and he rents an apartment.

Posing as a middle-aged
woman who was deaf

and her name was Dorothy Ciner.

He's basically on the run,
waiting to see what happens.

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And then, a few weeks later,

Susan Berman is murdered

in Los Angeles.

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Reporter:
Susan Berman, an author

and a close friend
of Robert Durst.

Birkbeck:
She was the closest person to Bobby back in 1982.

She knew everything
that was going on.

Bagli:
Someone had addressed an envelope

to "Beverley Hills Police,"

and inside, on note paper,
was the word "cadaver"

and an address --
Susan's address.

The supposition was that
whoever sent that letter

had seen the body and wanted
the body to be discovered.

Then, in September 2001,
another body turns up.

Reporter:
A teenage boy fishing in the shallow waters

off Galveston, Texas,

stumbled on the gruesome
remains of a murder.

Reporter #2:
Galveston police are convinced

58-year-old Robert Durst
killed and dismembered

his 71-year-old neighbor
Morris Black.

Who can chop up a body?

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I don't know how
a surgeon does it,

let alone a real-estate heir.

Criss:
Then, an arrest is made.

They had a bond hearing where
they expected him to show up

and, at some point,
they realize he's not coming.

Reporter:
Today, Durst was due in court, but didn't show.

This incredibly wealthy man
is on the run.

You're talking about a guy
that's got

millions of dollars
at his disposal.

Robert,
if you see this

or hear this,
please come home.

Now, he's a fugitive
from the law

and the question is,
"Where is he?"

Criss:
I strongly believed

that he is a danger
to the community.

He's a very, very dangerous man.

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After six weeks
of being a fugitive,

Robert Durst gets caught
in a small town in Pennsylvania

after he was accused
of shoplifting a sandwich.

That's how he gets arrested

and sent back
to Galveston, Texas.

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Cooper:
Jury selection got underway in Galveston, Texas, today.

Robert Durst is on trial
for murdering

and then dismembering
his neighbor.

If he is found guilty
of that murder,

he will spend the rest
of his life behind bars,

which is a far cry from the
lifestyle that he was born into.

He's a member of one
of the wealthiest

real-estate families
in New York City.

He's worth at least
$500 million.

The attorneys
that represented him

were some of the best
in the country.

Dick DeGuerin, Chip Lewis,
and Mike Ramsey,

they're the dream team
of criminal defense attorneys

in this region of Texas.

It was a dream team defense

that cost Bob
several million dollars.

The prosecution had a really
good circumstantial case.

We had a tremendous amount
of physical evidence.

Here we've got what we believe
to be the murder weapon.

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We had the blood trail
between Morris Black's apartment and his.

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We also found a receipt
from a local hardware store

that indicated a purchase
for a bow saw

and several garbage bags.

These were all instruments
that were used

in the killing and dismembering

and disposing of Morris Black.

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Going into this trial,

everyone thought
that the only way

Robert Durst might have a chance
of getting out of this situation

is if he pled
that he was insane.

How else do you explain
the cutting up the body?

I mean, how do you explain

a person who could be
so cold as to do that?

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He was swimming in the blood

and then he cleaned up and went
back to the San Luis Hotel

and had a Caesar salad.

He also went to a local Walmart,
got a money order,

to pay Morris Black's rent,

so that the landlord
would not come around,

looking for the rent.

This is a man who, by many
accounts, he was cross-dressing,

he portrayed himself
as mute woman.

Certainly, you know, I guess
"eccentric," at the very least,

would be the word
to describe it.

Lavandera:
At first glance, when you look

at what's going on here
in Galveston,

you think, "Oh, Robert Durst
isn't all there.

Like there must be something
wrong with him mentally."

But then, little things
start popping up,

here and there,
that make you question,

"Is there something else
going on here?"

He started going around,
setting up safe houses,

like he did in Galveston.

He also did the same thing

in New Orleans,

dressed up as a mute female.

Durst had also cemented
a very crucial relationship

before he went on the run,

with the very person
who had wired him

the $300,000 that he needed
to make bail.

That's when we learned
about Debrah Charatan,

his secret wife.

She's another influential person
in real estate in New York.

Their romantic relationship
had lasted

only a couple of years,

but she was still
a confidant of his

and, when Bob learned
of this new investigation

into Kathie's disappearance,

authorities believe
he immediately takes action

and marries his long-time
friend Debrah Lee Charatan.

Nobody had known
that they got married.

It was clearly a business deal,
for her to agree to marry him.

Bagli:
He gives her power of attorney over his financial accounts.

Lavandera:
When Robert Durst returns to Texas,

they revoke the bail.

"You ran on us
on the first one.

You're not getting
another shot."

The odds seemed completely
stacked against them.

There's no winning defense
in a crime like this,

unless you have a winning
defense attorney,

like Dick DeGuerin.

Criss:
Mr. DeGuerin, are you ready?

Yes, Your Honor.

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Criss:
The State of Texas v. Robert Durst.

In the district court
of Galveston County, Texas,

the defendant, Robert Durst,

stands charged by indictment
with the offense of murder.

Robert Durst's defense,

led by defense attorney
Dick DeGuerin,

surprises everyone.

The defense that
DeGuerin presented

was quite an audacious one,
which was,

"Yes, my client did it.

We're not arguing that.

But he did it
out of self-defense."

Reporter:
Robert Durst says Morris Black

was accidentally killed
in self-defense

while both men
struggled for a gun.

Well, if the defense
is self-defense,

you almost have
to put him on the stand.

Only two people
know what happened.

One is now deceased.

The other one is Mr. Durst.

Cooper:
It's got to be a risky strategy,

putting this man
on the stand.

Do they even know
what he's gonna say?

They're going to prep him
very well,

but it is definitely
a high-risk strategy.

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Lavandera:
Dick DeGuerin lives by this philosophy where

you embrace the negative.

Don't deny
what you can't deny.

DeGuerin has this phrase
that he teaches law students --

"You kiss the ugly baby."

You have to take whatever your
horrible thing in your case is,

and you kiss that ugly baby.

They quickly figured out
that Robert Durst can't deny

that he killed Morris Black,

so you have to admit
what you did.

And you take away
the prosecutor's

sharpest knife
in their toolbox.

There was a mountain of evidence

showing that Robert Durst
was guilty of killing,

but that doesn't mean
he was guilty of murder.

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Before Robert Durst
took the stand,

his defense attorneys tried
to prepare the jury

for some of his quirks.

They told us, as a child,
he suffered with Asperger's.

Defense attorneys say
Durst suffers

from a mild form of autism,

which, they say, explains
why Durst acted the way he did.

When I watched him walk
from the table

to that box to sit in,

he looked frail
and he got up there

and he was real
soft-spoken.

And he said he didn't want
to be Bob anymore.

This kind of ends up playing
into this whole idea of,

you know,
of him having to explain

why this multimillionaire
is living

on a Texas island,
dressed as a woman.

By his own admission,

Robert Durst came
to Galveston with a secret,

that he wanted
to change identities.

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Morris Black was Robert Durst's
next-door neighbor,

who distinguished
himself in Galveston

as being a complete
and utter crank.

The defense said that they
immediately became fast friends.

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And, eventually,
they become friendly enough

where Robert Durst drops the
disguise of being Dorothy Ciner.

Morris Black was the only one

who knew Robert Durst
as Robert Durst.

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They were both estranged
from their family,

were lone wolves, and they
were also incredibly cheap.

Bagli:
Bob says he gave him a key to his apartment.

Bob had a television.

He welcomed Morris in
to watch television.

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But what I heard
in this case --

Morris Black was not
to be played with.

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Bob had a pistol,

which he kept in the oven.

Warren:
They presented it more like

Morris was more interested
in Durst's weapon.

You know, like he had a fantasy
with his weapon.

♪♪

Bagli:
But, at a certain point, Bob says,

he took the key
away from Morris Black.

♪♪

He comes home one evening
and finds Morris there,

holding his gun,
according to Bob.

♪♪

They tussled,

but it was like
a self-defense tussle.

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And, as they fell
to the ground...

...the gun goes off,

killing Morris Black.

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According to Durst,
Morris was shot in the face.

Bob says he's freaking out
because he knows

that there's now
a new investigation

into Kathie's disappearance.

The way he told the story,
he didn't believe anybody

was going to believe him,
that it was self-defense,

so he had to make this
calculated decision

to hide this body.

So, in a fugue-like state,

he went over
to Chalmers hardware store

and got what everybody else
would get, right?

A bow saw.

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Criss:
According to him, in order to cut the body up,

he had to get drunk
and smoke a lot of pot.

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Bagli:
I've never heard anybody describe,

in such bloody detail,

something that they did
that was so horrific.

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Bob's defense team
hammered away with the jury

that they had to separate

the act of how
Morris Black died

from the cutting up
of the body.

This case is not
about what Bob Durst did

after Morris Black died.

The sole issue for you ladies
and gentlemen to decide

is how Morris Black died.

They said that,
if a person is already dead

and you get
to chopping up the body,

that's called tampering
with evidence

and that's another case,
and another trial.

Reporter:
Prosecutors say Durst very calmly planned

to get away with murder,

wrapping body parts in trash
bags and inside suitcases,

even using his money to pay
for the victim's rent.

They say Durst's actions
after the shooting

prove his guilt.

But they didn't come up
with a good story to tell

about why
the murder occurred.

They're saying that Durst
shot Morris Black

dead-center
in the back of his head,

but you can't say that

'cause you don't have the head!

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What you had is Mr. Durst
taking the stand

and telling a story that
basically couldn't be disproved.

It's like proving the negative,

and the prosecutor had
a hard time doing that.

DeGuerin:
Reasonable doubt.

♪♪

It means a doubt based

on reason
and common sense.

♪♪

Mr. Foreman, I understand
you have a verdict?

♪♪

"We, the jury,
find the defendant,

Robert Durst,

not guilty."

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I don't think he believed,
for a minute,

that he was gonna be
found not guilty.

McCormack:
Not guilty?

He cut a guy in pieces

and went
and hid the evidence.

Not guilty?

We did the best
with what we had

and, whether it agree
to you all

or to anyone else
out there in America,

this is what we came up with.

♪♪

We begin
with a courtroom shocker.

A man who admitted

that he killed his neighbor

and chopped up his body

is found not guilty of murder
by a Texas jury.

After Robert Durst was acquitted
of murdering Morris Black,

he pleads guilty
to some lesser charges --

tampering with evidence,

for dismembering
Morris Black's body;

jumping bail;

and then,
federal Weapons charges.

Within two and a half years,

Robert Durst is back
out on the streets.

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By then, New York filmmaker
Andrew Jarecki was inspired

to make a feature film based
on Robert Durst's life.

By late 2010,

"All Good Things"
is coming out.

All Good Things was the name
of the health food store

that Robert and Kathie Durst
were running in Vermont

in the early 1970s.

♪♪

We thought carefully
about trying to make it

as accurate as possible and I
remember saying to my partner,

when we were writing that movie,
"I would like to make a movie

that the real Bob Durst
could see

and have an emotional
reaction to."

And Bob says

that he loved the movie.

I wrote a story in The Times,

how much he liked the movie,

despite the fact that

it implicated him
in three murders.

But, it also made his family
look horrible,

and he reveled in that.

Based on Durst's
very positive response

to "All Good Things,"

he contacts the director
and suggests

that Jarecki
should interview him

for a documentary
about his life.

They did two massive interviews,

one at the end of 2010,
and then again in 2012.

Why in the world would he agree
to do an interview, on-camera?

He had never talked before,

so he wanted to tell his story
as he had it in his head.

I believe Bob sat down
to do "The Jinx"

because he believed
that he was infallible.

♪♪

In February of 2015,

the six-part docuseries
"The Jinx" premieres on HBO,

which is owned by HLN's
parent company, WarnerMedia.

For the first time, Durst makes
revealing statements on-camera,

like this one, about his
trial testimony in Galveston.

You know, it's a question
of not, "What do I say,"

but, "How do I say it?"

I never intentionally,
purposefully, lied.

I made mistakes.

Did not tell
the whole truth.

Nobody tells the whole truth.

Bob admits a lot of things
on "The Jinx."

I was talking to him
after every episode.

By the fifth episode,
when I called him,

he was very agitated.

Reporter:
In "The Jinx," a new, stunning revelation

by the stepson of Susan Berman,

killed execution-style
in her Beverly Hills home.

In a storage box, the stepson
comes across a letter

Durst sent to Berman
shortly before she died.

Durst's handwriting,

the killer's note to police,

they bear remarkable
similarities,

down to the misspelling
of "Beverly."

It was sent on December 23rd,

the same day
that Susan was killed.

Inside, on note paper,

was the word "cadaver"

and an address --
Susan's address.

Oh, God, the "B"
is exactly the same.

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Son of a bitch.

Whoever wrote that letter knew

that Susan Berman was dead.

Then, in the sixth
and final episode,

Andrew Jarecki shows Durst
the letter, and confronts him.

So you wrote one of these,
but you didn't write the other one?

I wrote this one.

I did not write
the cadaver one.

And can you tell me which
one you didn't write?

No.

Reporter:
When confronted, Durst becomes nervous,

even burping uncomfortably
on camera.

I would con...clude
they were both written

by the same person.

Then, the interview
comes to an end

and Bob asks to go
to the bathroom.

Reporter:
Visibly rattled, Durst stepped away to the bathroom,

his microphone still live.

I just had no idea that,
that last five minutes,

we would see
something like that.

I stood up and gasped.

I shed a couple of tears

because it was a final closure
on your worst fears.

And I thought to myself,
"Oh, my God.

He's gonna run."

♪♪

♪♪

Welcome back
to "Very Scary People."

When Robert Durst reached out
to documentary producers

and offered to tell the truth
about his controversial life,

his goal was to set
the record straight,

to create a positive impression.

He was confident he could
control the narrative

until a confrontation
about the handwriting

on the Susan Berman letter.

Then he went on the run again.

Jordan:
The day before HBO broadcast

that final episode of
"The Jinx,"

a warrant had been issued
for his arrest

in the murder of Susan Berman,

but nobody could find him.

LAPD at this point knows
he's left his home in Houston

with five bags,
and he's going somewhere.

The FBI is looking
at his whereabouts,

and they see
that he gets into a car

and he starts driving east.

And then he turns off his phone,
and so they can't track him.

What he did
was go to New Orleans.

He's checked into the Marriott
under an assumed name.

It was that day
or the next day...

Bob turns on his phone.

Big mistake.

'Cause now they know
where he is.

So, that Saturday afternoon,
two FBI agents go the Marriott,

and they ask for the manager,

and they say,
"Do you have Bob Durst here?"

"No, nobody by the name
of Bob Durst."

They said, "Well, how about...?"

And they go through 10 aliases.

"No."

So, they're standing around
in the lobby, and they turn in,

and who comes walking through
the revolving door

but a guy that looks
a hell of a lot like Bob Durst.

So they pull him aside, and
they said, "Are you Bob Durst?"

Reporter:
Breaking news tonight --

multimillionaire Robert Durst
arrested in connection

with the execution-style killing

of his long-time friend
Susan Berman.

He's going to jail.

There he is in the backseat of
the car, smiling, looking happy.

Woman: His facial expressions
are often inappropriate.

But this man has been
Teflon-coated his entire life.

Nothing bad sticks
to Robert Durst.

When did you find out about
the statement in the bathroom?

When I saw it on television,

like most everybody else
in the country.

And if that's the strength
of their case, man,

I could be ready tomorrow.

We want to contest
the basis for his arrest

because I think
it's not based on facts --

it's based on ratings.

FBI find cash, a Smith & Wesson,
and five ounces of marijuana.

That is a lot of marijuana
for any one individual to smoke.

They find $117,000 in cash.

He also had maps with Florida,
the U.S., and Cuba.

This is a guy who was clearly
plotting and planning something.

They found a mask that would
cover your face, over your neck,

up to your chest area.

It was creepy-looking.

♪♪

Man: This morning, New York
real-estate heir Robert Durst

remains behind bars
in New Orleans.

Bagli:
John Lewin, the prosecutor,

he had gotten on a plane

the minute he heard
they had him in custody.

And he lands very early
in New Orleans

and goes straight
to the jailhouse

and asks if Bob is willing
to talk to him, which he was.

- Do you want to sit here?
- Yes.

We'll give him
the softest seat.

And they start talking
for almost three hours.

Without Durst's lawyer present.

Bagli:
It was a brilliant interview

because the prosecutor
had a checklist

of what he wanted to ask Bob
and get a response to,

like the so-called
"cadaver note."

Lewin explains his theories

of the crimes he believes
Durst has committed.

In the case of Morris Black,

Lewin theorizes that Black
was the one person in Galveston

who knew the true identity
of Robert Durst

and may have threatened
to expose him.

Bagli:
By the end of the conversation,

they start dancing around,
very obliquely,

about, you know,
a plea agreement.

Okay.

Lewin is telling him,
basically, "We gotcha."

It looks as if he wants
to tell his story.

The defense view of Robert Durst

playing that game
of cat-and-mouse

is that Robert Durst was playing
the prosecutor at that time.

Criss: I do think that

the prosecutor in Los Angeles
has got his number.

I think he understands Bob
better

than anybody
who's dealt with him.

He's researched this case.

He knows everything
you could possibly know.

♪♪

DeGuerin: Bob Durst
did not kill Susan Berman,

and he doesn't know who did,
and he wants to prove it.

Woman: How strong is the case
against him?

Man:
Completely out of whack.

I mean, 20 hours of footage!

20 hours of interviews
that this guy gave

without his lawyer present,
without anybody present

to keep his mouth shut
to HBO.

That's going to be used
against him.

Bagli: The fundamental problem
for the defense

is that their client talked
and talked and talked again.

He did the very thing that

his lawyers and his friends
warned him against.

Don't poke a stick
in the beehive.

Woman:
Durst's attorney says he needs

to be in a hospital
instead of jail

because of
several medical conditions,

one of which was
definitely obvious here.

You can see it right about here.

It's a shunt bulging from
the side of his shaven head,

implanted during surgery
to treat hydrocephalus.

I do want to say here and now,
though, I am not guilty.

I did not kill Susan Berman.

As it stands today,
Bob is charged with one murder,

the murder of Susan Berman.

But the theory of
the prosecution's case

is that Bob executed Susan
because he was afraid

that she would reveal
to the authorities

her role in the disappearance
of Kathie Durst.

That man kills
witnesses.

That's what he does.

That's what he did
in this case.

That's what he did
with Morris Black.

Mr. Durst,
when pushed into a corner,

he murders people.

Chesnoff:
They have an idea that somehow

they're gonna try
three murder cases,

one of which

he's previously
been acquitted of,

the other he's
never been charged in,

and this case.

DeGuerin: The first presumption
that they have

is that, first,

Kathie Durst
is dead.

There's no evidence
that she is.

But second -- that Bob Durst

had anything to do
with her disappearance.

There's no evidence.

There never has been.

There isn't anything new.

Birkbeck:
It's a circumstantial case,

so John Lewin has a very
difficult task ahead of him,

especially given the defense
team that Durst has assembled,

which is pretty much
the same defense team he used

in the Morris Black trial.

That man beat a murder
in Galveston.

Beat a murder!

He murdered that man,
and he got away with it.

He's not gonna get away
a second time.

Birkbeck: This is not
a slam dunk by any means.

This is gonna be
something to watch.

Do not underestimate
Robert Durst

or his defense team.

Man: We're back in session.

People versus Robert Durst.

Jordan: As early as 2017,
Deputy D.A. John Lewin

began calling
conditional witnesses.

These are people that he wanted
to get on the record

before the trial began.

Bagli:
The Deputy District Attorney

dug up a dozen people

who Susan told some fragment
of the story.

And when you put them
all together,

they are a mosaic that tells
a bit about what Susan knew.

Lynda Obst -- she had been
interviewed for "The Jinx,"

but she didn't talk about
this piece of information,

and she testified
that Susan had told her

that she helped Bob

with covering up
how Kathie disappeared.

Lynda testified
that Susan admitted

that she had called
Kathie's medical school

and pretended to be Kathie.

You're seeing people
come forward now

who have protected him
in the past.

♪♪

One of the people

who had not spoken
to law enforcement until then

was a mutual friend
of Susan Berman and Robert Durst

named Nick Chavin.

Bagli:
The prosecutor in Los Angeles

spent seven months
trying to get Nick to talk,

and Nick, as he put it,

is weighing his loyalty
to his two best friends,

Susan on the one hand
and Bob on the other.

And, ultimately,
he decided to cooperate.

He became
the big mystery witness

at the first big hearing
in Los Angeles.

Jordan:
Chavin gave testimony

about an encounter he had
with Robert Durst

in New York in 2014.

Bagli:
Nick gets a call, and Bob says,

"I wanna talk to you
about Susie."

So they have dinner, they get
outside, and Nick says to him,

"Bob, you wanted
to talk about Susie?" --

this person that was near
and dear to both of them --

and he's looking down
at the ground,

and he says, "I had no choice.

It was her or me."

♪♪

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Man:
I want to thank all of you.

This has been a really
long process.

Man #2: Prosecution's
making their case right now

in a Los Angeles courtroom.

More than 150 witnesses
could be called to the stand.

After decades of suspicion,

Robert Durst's
long-awaited murder trial

is about to finally begin.

Paul Vercammen is on this story
from Los Angeles.

The first time we caught
a glimpse of Durst,

he was stooped over,

and he must not weigh
much more than 120 pounds.

Bob has come to look
like a very old man

and somewhat feeble.

He moves very slowly and with
a great amount of effort.

Man: Durst will hear
the opening statements

from the Grim Reaper
of cold-case defendants.

John Lewin has had
a lot of success

prosecuting cold cases,

especially under
circumstantial evidence.

What the evidence will show

is that Bob Durst
killed Kathie Durst

in the midst
of a nasty divorce,

that he killed Susan Berman
because he was afraid

that Susan Berman was going to
reveal what he knew.

Lewin also put this out there --
that although loyal,

Susan Berman was not the best
at keeping secrets.

And when Susan Berman
told him that, "You know what?

I'm gonna talk to
investigators,"

that she sealed her fate.

Vercammen: And then John Lewin
brings it up, that cadaver note,

that note that points police
to Susan Berman's body.

You're writing a note
to the police

that only the killer
could have written.

And then, they're getting ready
to pick a jury,

and then,
all of a sudden, boom!

Man: Durst's lawyers now admit
that he was the one

who wrote the note
and mailed it.

After many years of adamantly
and repeatedly denying

that he wrote the cadaver note,

three months ago,

Durst stipulated that
he wrote the cadaver note.

So many had wondered for months,
how in the world

will the defense
explain that cadaver note?

They actually admit to the jury

that Robert Durst
found her body.

When Bob showed up
and found her dead, he panicked.

He wrote the anonymous letter
so her body would be found,

and he ran.

Man:
Durst's lawyers' mantra is

a lack of evidence
is evidence,

in this case,
of his innocence.

There is no forensic evidence
whatsoever

linking Bob
to Mrs. Durst's disappearance

or, more importantly,
Ms. Berman's murder.

No evidence of fingerprints
in the house,

blood, DNA, ballistics.

Two houses,
no forensic evidence.

Vercammen: And on that call
where the prosecution says

Susan Berman posed
as Kathie Durst,

the defense has basically said

this call from Susan Berman
never happened.

And then "The Jinx."

"The Jinx" will definitely
be center stage,

but the defense said
this is heavily edited,

it is deceiving
and deliberately misleading.

DeGuerin: We're gonna see
the unedited parts.

And I think the evidence
will show you

that the editing changed
a lot of it.

I call it "gotcha journalism."

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Bagli: I think this is gonna be
a final reckoning.

And the defense -- one thing
that they have on their side

is all they have to do
is convince one juror

that the prosecution
hasn't proven what happened.

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This trial is not simply about
the murder of Susan Berman.

This trial covers three deaths
over a span of almost 40 years.

And it's about justice.

McCormack: I'll be watching
this trial very closely.

I don't think I get up
and not think of Kathie

on any given day --
probably several times a day.

Mayer: A lot of people
have suffered over the years,

not knowing
what happened to Kathie.

She had a lot of people
who loved her, including myself.

I think it would give
a lot of people

at least some peace of mind
to know the truth.

Draper:
It just may simply be

Robert Durst
will be the custodian

of all these secrets

and that those secrets will
remain locked up inside of him.

You know, things stay hidden,

but they don't stay hidden
forever.

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When Robert Durst
entered the courtroom

for the Susan Berman trial,
people gasped.

He looked weak and frail,
his voice barely audible.

His attorneys confirmed
his poor health,

and many wondered
if he would live long enough

to hear the verdict.

In spite of any evidence
against him,

Durst always insisted he did not
kill his best friend, Susan.

Will the jury believe him?

I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

Thanks for watching.
Good night.

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