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{\an8}♪♪
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Milam:
Me and Ricky were best friends.
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He was just a normal kid
like everybody.
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We went to school together.
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He was very smart.
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God-fearing person.
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He studied the Bible.
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He was a good, good student.
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And then certain things started
going wrong with Ricky,
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and he started doing bad things.
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He was doing something
very wrong.
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My belief -- you live by
the sword, you die by the sword,
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and that's just the way it is.
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{\an8}♪♪
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{\an8}♪♪
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{\an8}♪♪
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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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The media called it a rampage.
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There was a serial killer
on the loose in California,
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random attacks throughout
the spring and summer of 1985.
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No one felt safe.
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Police described his actions
as savage.
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He broke into people's homes,
stole anything of value,
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then raped, beat, and murdered
those he found inside.
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He had been linked to at least
15 murders,
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from children to the elderly,
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male and female,
wealthy and poor.
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Now investigators had
a promising lead,
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one that would finally end
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the Night Stalker's
reign of terror.
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Here's part two of "The Night
Stalker: I Will Be Avenged."
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{\an8}♪♪
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Reporter: The victim --
her throat had been slashed.
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He found her
horribly mutilated and murdered.
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Reporter: It appears the suspect
got in through an open window.
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He stole a lot of jewelry
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and graduated to these
horrible crimes of violence.
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It was a night of sheer terror.
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She begged him not to shoot her.
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It was an isolated murder here
and an isolated one there,
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but then, that summer,
it was just constant.
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Reporter: Five murders
and three sexual attacks
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in the past eight weeks.
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This man may be linked
to at least six homicides.
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Reporter #2: Seven bodies
beaten, stabbed, or shot.
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Reporter #3:
33 cases, including 14 murders,
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have definitely been linked
to the Walk-In Killer.
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The killer leaves the pentagram,
the mark of the devil.
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He was openly bringing
a Satanic aspect to the attacks.
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I'm nervous.
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You know,
I'm nervous for my family,
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nervous for my friends
and neighbors.
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Reporter: 29-year-old Bill Carns
was shot in the head.
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Yochelson: But what was
different about this incident --
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there was a young man
who lived a couple blocks away.
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Jenkins:
He spotted a suspicious man,
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and he is able to get
a partial license plate number.
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Jordan:
The license plate matched
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with a 1976 orange
Toyota station wagon.
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And so it was one of
the best leads that they got
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through the whole investigation.
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Martin: It affords law
enforcement the ability to issue
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an all-points bulletin
for the orange station wagon.
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{\an8}And, ultimately, that
station wagon turns up
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{\an8}abandoned in a parking lot.
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{\an8}So the police -- they watch
the car for 24 hours,
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{\an8}and the driver never showed up.
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{\an8}Eventually, they brought it in
to be processed for evidence.
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Martin: The forensic examination
of the car
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helped reveal the presence
of a latent fingerprint
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off the rearview mirror
of the car.
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Yochelson:
There was a brand-new technology
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that was just coming online.
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It was called
the Automated Fingerprint
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{\an8}Identification System, or AFIS,
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{\an8}and it's computerized technology
where a fingerprint is scanned.
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It goes through a database.
and compared.
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The computer spits out
possible matches,
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and then there's
a physical match.
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Martin: He'd been arrested in
December of '83 for auto theft,
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and that was on file.
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That's where the make occurred.
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And it came in just in time
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to help them identify
the Night Stalker.
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Block: The individual who
we believe is responsible
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{\an8}for these crimes --
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{\an8}a man by the name
of Richard Ramirez.
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Richard Ramirez was a tall,
thin, dark-haired, dark-eyed,
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Hispanic male
with rotting teeth,
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a 25-year-old described drifter
from El Paso, Texas.
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Martin:
There was a booking photo,
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and his photograph
was published.
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Block:
At this very moment,
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an alert is going out
to all law enforcement agencies
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to be on the lookout
for this individual,
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who is to be considered armed
and extremely dangerous.
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Jordan: And now police
all over California
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are on the hunt
for Richard Ramirez.
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{\an8}The police were also staking out
the Greyhound bus station
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{\an8}where he was known to frequent.
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{\an8}So he gets off the bus,
and the first thing that he sees
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{\an8}is a newspaper stand
with his picture
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on the front of "L.A. Times."
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Big picture.
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Vidal: And believe me,
exactly what
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that booking photo looked like
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{\an8}was exactly the way he looked.
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{\an8}He's surprised when the crowd
recognizes him.
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{\an8}The jig is up.
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Reporter #3: Walk-In Killer
suspect Richard Ramirez
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had just discovered
he was a wanted man
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and desperately tried
to make a run for it.
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Hernandez: He starts running.
He gets into a bus.
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People recognize him in the bus.
He jumps out the bus.
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He fled on foot
and tried to steal a car.
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I was assigned to my car, 4A57,
with my partner.
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We handle a radio call.
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We receive a broadcast
over the air
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of a possible
Night Stalker sighting.
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Hernandez: He tries to hijack
this old classic Mustang.
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You don't do that in East L.A.
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Reporter #3: He chased after
the suspect after he claims
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Ramirez was trying to steal
his red Mustang.
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And even though he says he was
being threatened with a gun,
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Pinon fought
that suspect anyway.
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Then I got him by the neck.
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Reporter #3: Got him by
the neck, and then what?
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Then we struggled back and forth
over the car.
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During this time, we're hearing
broadcasts of requests
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for additional units to respond.
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The air unit, police helicopter,
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was requested to follow
any possible suspect.
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He was last seen traveling
Eastbound on 8th Street.
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Yochelson:
They chased him physically.
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A number of the other neighbors
got involved.
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Hernandez: And people were just
yelling, "El matón,"
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"The killer,"
and "The Night Stalker."
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And I remember going up
on Indiana to Percy Street,
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and we see people
pointing down the direction
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where this person was going.
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So then it was a mob.
It was a mob scene.
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Then Ramirez attempted to
carjack another vehicle.
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Big mistake.
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Reporter #3:
Saw another man hitting his wife
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while pulling her
out of her gold Granada.
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He hit her?
Yes, he tried to --
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Where'd he hit her?
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Oh, he hit her right here,
all over right here.
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What was she thinking?
Was she scared? Yes.
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Reporter #3: That's when Torres
grabbed the pipe
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and began hitting that man.
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Vidal:
When I exited my police car,
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he was bleeding
from the back of his head.
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I remember that.
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Ultimately, a group of folks
realize who it Is
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and wind up grabbing
onto Ramirez.
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At that point, he was dead meat.
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My concern was
I wanted to remove him
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from that hostile situation
that he was in at the time.
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He was hit over the head
with, like, a copper rod
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they used to ground
these telephone poles.
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I'm sure he was happy to see
the cops show up.
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Vidal: He was on the grass
parkway of the street,
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south side of Hubbard,
and he was laying there,
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and the deputy had
just rolled him over.
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We requested
a rescue ambulance to come.
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You look at the media coverage
of the time,
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you'll that he's bandaged
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because he was struck
on the head during the arrest.
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And these citizens were heroes.
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They caught the Night Stalker.
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{\an8}Walls: We're happy to report
that the suspect
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{\an8}that we have in custody
is Richard Ramirez,
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{\an8}otherwise known
as the Night Stalker.
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{\an8}Vidal: He's handcuffed,
hands behind his back.
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{\an8}When I was talking to him,
I felt just different.
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{\an8}You might call it Satanic.
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{\an8}I mean, he just looked
the presence of evil before you.
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{\an8}He was a drifter.
He was in Arizona for a while.
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Came to California
for unknown reasons.
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Started out as a burglar
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and graduated to these
horrible crimes of violence
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and the Satanism,
which my personal view,
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was an affect on his part
to stir up notoriety.
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{\an8}The Night Stalker was now
in custody,
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{\an8}but the big question was,
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what happened to this person
that created this monster?
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Ricardo Leyva Ramirez
was born February 29, 1960,
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in El Paso, Texas.
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Hancock: Richard's mother worked
in a boot factory,
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and his father worked
for the Santa Fe railroad.
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{\an8}Richard was the youngest
of five kids.
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Milam:
We went to school together.
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He was very smart.
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God-fearing person.
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{\an8}And then he started
doing bad things.
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Hernandez:
When we interviewed some people,
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people were saying that he was,
like, a little petty thief.
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{\an8}And he didn't have
a very good reputation.
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Hernandez: We found out
through medical records
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{\an8}that he had had many seizures
in the sixth, seventh grade,
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and we had a doctor
examine him.
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And they did some scans
on his brain,
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and they found
some abnormalities.
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There was something wrong
with him.
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Maybe he was epileptic, but he
never got an official diagnosis.
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{\an8}Richard Ramirez also had
a very disturbed childhood.
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He had what can be considered
now a very abusive father.
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The father was
very authoritarian.
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He would not hesitate
to use the whip
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and, you know, belt him.
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He would go and steal things.
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He would get, you know,
caught by his dad,
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and part of that corrective
measure that he would use,
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he would tie him up
at a cemetery
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that was right next door
to where they used to live.
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Put him on crosses, tied up,
overnight.
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So he had to endure those things
very early age.
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We're talking about
when he was 12, 14 years old.
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Jordan: Richard's father was
clearly an influence,
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but many believe that it was
another family member
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that may have done
the most damage.
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Martin:
Part of Ramirez's childhood specific to his teen years
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had to deal with a cousin,
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{\an8}a Vietnam veteran
who had shared with him
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{\an8}some of the details
of war, of combat,
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of some of the killings
that he had witnessed.
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He taught him how to use
the knife
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and how to cut throats.
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Milam: Ricky was very,
very scared of Mike,
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and he had panic attacks.
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He told me how much
he despised Mike.
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Schecter:
Mike, who had all these tales
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about Vietnamese women
he had raped and killed
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and Polaroid photographs
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which he would show
young Ramirez
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of decapitated heads of women
he had raped and then beheaded,
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and who really schooled him
in how to kill stealthily.
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Sometimes gruesome pictures
put images in your mind.
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And they did have
a great impact on Ricky.
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{\an8}There's no question that his
criminal behavior later in life
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reflects lots of sex offenses
that are violent,
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that involve torture,
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that involve horrific,
brutal acts.
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So for him,
there was a clear fusion
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between lust and cruelty.
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Hancock:
When Richard was 13,
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he was present when Mike got
into an argument with his wife
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and shot her in the face
and killed her.
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Dietz: Ramirez shot many of
his victims in the face.
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That is not a common place
to shoot people.
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And yet he is shooting victims
in the face
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disproportionately often,
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just like his cousin Mike
shot the first homicide victim
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Ramirez ever witnessed
in the face.
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Hancock: After he shot his wife,
he went to trial,
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and he was found not guilty
by reason of insanity.
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He was given a lighter sentence,
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and he actually,
after he finished his sentence,
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came back into Richard's life.
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It seems like a pivotal,
harrowing moment
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in this young kid's development.
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Jordan: Hardened by
his early experiences,
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Richard became increasingly
drawn to macabre things.
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Richard took to sleeping
in cemeteries.
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He would wear
a lot of black clothes
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and go into what you can
perceive as a persona
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of a gothic, evil
night marauder.
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He started with marijuana
and then later on
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went into heavy drugs like acid.
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He was having
epileptic seizures.
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Coupled with the drugs
and, you know,
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all that stuff,
it's a combination.
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He explained it to me that,
"You don't care about nobody,
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not even yourself,"
and when you come to that stage,
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it's a very,
very dangerous stage.
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Hancock:
He didn't go to school much.
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He started hanging out
with a rough gang.
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Richard dropped out of
high school when he was 14.
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He got in trouble with the law.
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And once that happened,
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I guess he decided
not to go back to school.
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And then certain things started
going wrong with Ricky there.
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{\an8}♪♪
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Jordan: After Ramirez was
finally captured,
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the arresting officers said
that he was very polite,
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but he refused to cooperate.
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Yochelson: The sheriffs came
and transported him later
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to the county jail,
where he was booked.
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When he was arrested,
his arrest had led to a locker
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at the Greyhound bus station.
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There was a trove of evidence
recovered in that bus locker --
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stolen property
that was linked to the victims.
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The guns weren't recovered,
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but ammunition that had been
in those guns were recovered
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and linked to Ramirez.
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The charges were filed within
48 hours, as required by law.
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Jordan: Richard Ramirez was
charged with 14 murders,
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19 burglaries, 7 rapes,
and a slew of other charges.
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Richard was arrested in '85,
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and it was three years
before he went on trial.
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He came to court
wearing sunglasses.
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He changed from a really ugly,
evil-looking guy to a rock star.
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{\an8}♪♪
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Aw, you ain't no reporter.
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Jenkins: Richard Ramirez was
finally behind bars,
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and Californians could
finally sleep at night
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{\an8}after a year of being on edge.
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Now came the monumental task
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of bringing the Night Stalker
to justice.
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Judge: All right, this again is
case number A771272,
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the People of the State
of California vs.
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Richard Ramirez, the defendant.
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{\an8}There were tremendous challenges
just putting the case together.
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{\an8}Martin:
You've got all these agencies that you've got to coordinate.
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{\an8}You've got all these victims
that you've got to care for.
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{\an8}This was a monumental effort,
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and then you add to it that
this is a capital murder case.
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The preparations are
absolutely incredible.
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Yochelson:
He was initially represented by two appointed members
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of the L.A. County
Public Defender's office.
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Great attorneys.
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He had excellent representation.
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But for whatever reason,
Ramirez's family
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chose to fire
the Public Defender's office
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and bring in a series
of private counsel.
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First issue that came up was
who was paying for this defense,
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because mounting a capital
defense under any circumstances
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is tremendously expensive.
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Hernandez:
And then he got Mr. Gallegos
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for a couple of weeks.
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Woman: My understanding,
Mr. Ramirez --
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that you would like
to have Mr. Gallegos
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as your attorney.
Is that correct? Yes.
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{\an8}Mr. Gallegos apparently
had offered him
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{\an8}some deals with movies.
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Jordan:
In the '80s, some serial killers
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were treated like celebrities,
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and the media outlets
would actually compete
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{\an8}to get the rights
to their stories.
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{\an8}Ramirez was in that group.
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{\an8}Linedecker: He did what
a lot of people like him do.
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{\an8}He suddenly decided that,
"Gee, I'm a celebrity,
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{\an8}and I'm going to milk this for
everything I can milk it for."
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Yochelson:
There was some indication
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that there was a book deal
in the works,
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which poses all kinds
of ethical issues,
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so the judge actually
appointed another lawyer
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just to advise Ramirez
as to the possible issues
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of financing his defense
through a book deal,
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and Ramirez refused
to talk to that lawyer.
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Ultimately, Daniel and Arturo
Hernandez came on the case.
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They're not related, even though
they have the same last name.
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The family has retained us
officially,
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and as far as we're concerned,
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we are the attorneys
for Mr. Ramirez.
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Hernandez:
We ended up with the case,
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and it made a big difference,
absolutely,
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knowing the culture,
bilingualism,
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because, you know, in El Paso,
we speak both languages.
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We seem to get along very well.
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Hernandez: He was very impressed
that I unshackled him and not --
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you know, we broke the ice,
so he hired us.
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He signed the substitution of
attorneys that need to be filed.
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But we were not welcome
in L.A.
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We were really in danger.
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{\an8}I was working as a paralegal
with Arturo Hernandez,
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{\an8}who is now my husband.
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The day that Judge Soper
let them into the case,
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I received a phone call
late in the evening,
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and they said,
"We know who you are.
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We are the family of one of
the victims in the Ramirez case,
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and we're going to kill you."
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So I immediately hung up
on the person
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and hightailed it
out of the office.
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Yochelson: And there was
an issue that was brought up
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as to whether or not
they were qualified
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to handle a case like this.
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Both had only been attorneys
for about five years
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and apparently had never
handled a capital case.
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Jordan: At preliminary hearings,
defense and prosecution
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would get into shouting matches
with each other.
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Woman: They're matters
of public record, sir.
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There's presently pending
in that court --
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These liars.
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Judge Tynan and I did not
get along, to say the least.
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He was always mocking us.
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He, to me, did not have what
they call judicial temperament.
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He would get pissed off.
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Yochelson: Daniel and Arturo
Hernandez made statements
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that the prosecution considered
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were unsupported
by the evidence --
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flat out lying
or going for publicity.
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Phil Halpin,
who was lead counsel,
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lead prosecutor --
very knowledgeable,
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knows how to handle a case,
but there was really contention
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00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:11,915
between the Hernandezes
and Phil.
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And I think a lot of that
was just natural,
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given the nature of the case and
the stakes that were involved.
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00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:21,883
And in the middle of all of this
chaos was Richard Ramirez.
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Reporter: Richard Ramirez came
into court for the final day
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of his pre-trial hearing
flashing the same grin
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he displayed during testimony
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00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:32,185
about the grisly details
of the Night Stalker killings.
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He kept smiling
as Judge James Nelson
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ruled there
is sufficient evidence
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to bind the 26-year-old drifter
over for trial
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on 14 counts of murder
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plus 36 other counts
of attempted murder,
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rape, robbery, and burglary.
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Yochelson:
He was arraigned and immediately
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took on the persona
of the Night Stalker
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as he left court,
and the circus began.
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Reporter:
Ramirez revealed a pentagram,
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a symbol of devil worship,
on his left palm
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and later shouted out
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what most observers agreed
was "Hail Satan."
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Hail Satan.
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Aguilar-Hernandez:
The first time that I spoke to
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Richard Ramirez on the phone,
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it was -- it was very scary,
very scary,
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because I knew what he had
represented on his hand
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and all the Satan hype
that had happened
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after he had done that
in open court.
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Yochelson:
I truly believe that
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all of this
was simply him acting out
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and wanting to play the role of
the celebrity serial killer --
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that he's the Night Stalker,
he should be feared.
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{\an8}♪♪
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{\an8}♪♪
436
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Welcome back to
"Very Scary People."
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On August 30, 1988, almost
three years after his arrest,
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the Night Stalker finally
stands trial in Los Angeles.
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00:24:06,363 --> 00:24:09,491
But the man who terrified
the nation for more than a year
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isn't finished yet.
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Instead, he begins
a bizarre new chapter
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00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:15,038
that has some wondering
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00:24:15,163 --> 00:24:18,708
if the Night Stalker
could escape justice after all.
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Linedecker: It was one of
the biggest trials
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00:24:22,212 --> 00:24:24,214
in the history of L.A.
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{\an8}The courtroom was packed,
447
00:24:25,715 --> 00:24:28,009
{\an8}and you had to get there
hours ahead of time
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00:24:28,093 --> 00:24:32,055
{\an8}to even have a chance
to get inside the courtroom.
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00:24:32,180 --> 00:24:36,351
Richard really loved
the attention.
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Jordan: Ramirez, who had spent
months in the shadows,
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{\an8}now seemed to relish
his time in the spotlight.
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Hernandez: We got him
some Armani suits
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donated from Goodwill.
454
00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:57,539
{\an8}He changed from a really ugly,
evil-looking guy to a rock star.
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00:24:57,622 --> 00:25:00,917
And shades, the teeth --
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00:25:01,001 --> 00:25:03,461
you know, yeah,
we got his teeth fixed,
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00:25:03,586 --> 00:25:06,923
so he became
a very well-looking guy.
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{\an8}His transition was just
another part
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{\an8}of the kind of circus atmosphere
that the case was taking on.
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It's almost what you expected
461
00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:20,979
because he just seemed
to be enjoying his role
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as the defendant,
the star of this case.
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{\an8}The gratification he was
getting, he was being fed,
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{\an8}so he said, "Wow," you know,
"I'm getting all this fame now."
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And, unfortunately,
he got all his glory.
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Aguilar-Hernandez:
He had a very powerful energy,
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but it wasn't a good energy.
468
00:25:41,458 --> 00:25:42,959
{\an8}It was something
other than good.
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00:25:43,084 --> 00:25:48,965
{\an8}It was just difficult
to explain what you felt.
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{\an8}Man: Case number A771272,
Richard Ramirez.
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{\an8}Ramirez's father took the stand
and tried to alibi him.
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{\an8}Hancock:
Julian Ramirez had testified
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{\an8}that Richard was at
a family gathering in El Paso
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at the same time that were
several attacks in Los Angeles.
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Which would eliminate him
as a suspect
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00:26:10,195 --> 00:26:12,614
because if Ramirez
didn't commit these,
477
00:26:12,697 --> 00:26:14,407
he didn't commit
the others either.
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The prosecution brought me in
as a rebuttal witness
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to the father's testimony.
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00:26:19,204 --> 00:26:22,374
I interviewed Julian Ramirez
in 1985.
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He said to me,
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"I have not seen him
for two or three years."
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Yochelson: Ramirez periodically
acted up between trial --
484
00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:31,257
or acted out.
485
00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:34,844
Parasites.
486
00:26:34,969 --> 00:26:37,847
Yochelson: He came to court
wearing sunglasses.
487
00:26:37,931 --> 00:26:40,934
Judge Tynan ordered him
to take off the sunglasses,
488
00:26:41,017 --> 00:26:45,021
and he said, "No,"
in a very loud voice.
489
00:26:45,146 --> 00:26:47,107
Security in the courtroom
was increased
490
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:48,525
after Ramirez threatened
491
00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:50,902
to have an unidentified friend
smuggle a gun in to him
492
00:26:51,027 --> 00:26:53,863
so that he could kill
the prosecution team.
493
00:26:53,947 --> 00:26:55,532
They had to erect
metal detectors,
494
00:26:55,615 --> 00:26:57,534
blocking the entrance
to the courtroom,
495
00:26:57,659 --> 00:27:01,705
and then Ramirez was brought in
heavily guarded and shackled.
496
00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:03,665
There were rumors
about everything --
497
00:27:03,748 --> 00:27:08,670
he was gonna bring in a gun --
so we were frisked all the time.
498
00:27:08,753 --> 00:27:11,047
Came with the territory,
I guess.
499
00:27:11,131 --> 00:27:13,383
There was something
that happened in the lock-up
500
00:27:13,508 --> 00:27:16,219
where the bailiffs
took him to the ground.
501
00:27:16,344 --> 00:27:18,888
Two officers that were
martial arts,
502
00:27:19,014 --> 00:27:22,225
ex-Navy SEALs --
they were watching him.
503
00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:23,935
They said that he went
like this,
504
00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:27,105
"I'm gonna cut your head off,"
threatening the witness.
505
00:27:27,230 --> 00:27:32,193
That causes a whole, you know,
bar-fight-like scenario.
506
00:27:32,277 --> 00:27:36,197
They grabbed him, they drag him,
and beat the crap out of him.
507
00:27:36,281 --> 00:27:39,034
Jordan: With so much drama
happening in the courtroom,
508
00:27:39,117 --> 00:27:44,205
the judge decided that the two
Hernandez attorneys needed help.
509
00:27:44,289 --> 00:27:46,583
Yochelson: Judge Tynan appointed
a third lawyer.
510
00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:48,752
He made a great selection
in Ray Clark,
511
00:27:48,877 --> 00:27:51,338
who came on and took over
a lot of the case.
512
00:27:51,421 --> 00:27:53,757
Hernandez:
A wonderful, wonderful guy.
513
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,383
He helped out a lot.
514
00:27:55,467 --> 00:27:58,845
But Ray Clark also had
a controversial strategy.
515
00:27:58,928 --> 00:28:01,765
Reporter: Any speculation
on how Mr. Ramirez
516
00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,600
might stand right now
at this point?
517
00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:05,393
Hopefully not guilty.
518
00:28:05,477 --> 00:28:06,603
I think somebody else did it.
519
00:28:06,728 --> 00:28:07,979
He is innocent
in your mind?
520
00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:09,522
He is not guilty in my mind,
521
00:28:09,606 --> 00:28:12,400
and I would like for the press
to make the distinction.
522
00:28:12,484 --> 00:28:15,737
The argument at trial
was that somebody else
523
00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:17,906
did all these crimes.
524
00:28:17,989 --> 00:28:20,075
Linedecker:
Some other dude did it.
525
00:28:20,158 --> 00:28:23,495
I don't think there was another
dude like Richard Ramirez.
526
00:28:23,620 --> 00:28:26,956
Jordan: And that wasn't even the
oddest thing about the trial.
527
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,213
The entire back row
was filled with goth girls.
528
00:28:33,296 --> 00:28:39,969
{\an8}♪♪
529
00:28:43,431 --> 00:28:45,141
Reporter: Why were you
in the courtroom today?
530
00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:46,518
I just wanted to see
what he looked like.
531
00:28:46,643 --> 00:28:48,103
I think he's cute.
532
00:28:48,186 --> 00:28:49,646
Yochelson:
He loved the attention.
533
00:28:49,729 --> 00:28:52,273
At this point, the women
started showing up,
534
00:28:52,357 --> 00:28:54,859
{\an8}the so-called groupies,
who would come to court
535
00:28:54,984 --> 00:29:00,490
{\an8}and want to see Ramirez
and who were rooting for him.
536
00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:01,991
Hancock:
The first thing I remember
537
00:29:02,075 --> 00:29:03,743
is that I walked into
the courtroom,
538
00:29:03,827 --> 00:29:08,039
{\an8}the entire back row was filled
with goth girls
539
00:29:08,164 --> 00:29:10,166
{\an8}in black leather dresses
540
00:29:10,291 --> 00:29:14,170
{\an8}and dark black hair
and silver and chains.
541
00:29:14,295 --> 00:29:16,881
{\an8}All kinds of people --
really crazy, you know,
542
00:29:17,007 --> 00:29:20,885
{\an8}street folks and some other
professional ones.
543
00:29:21,011 --> 00:29:22,512
{\an8}There was a lot
of weird stuff --
544
00:29:22,637 --> 00:29:24,806
{\an8}you know, "Send me your semen.
I want to have your baby."
545
00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:28,226
{\an8}You know, I mean, people --
people are really crazy.
546
00:29:28,351 --> 00:29:30,103
{\an8}The thing that really
astonished me in this
547
00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:33,356
{\an8}was the attraction of
what you'd describe
548
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,861
as otherwise intelligent
and capable women
549
00:29:37,944 --> 00:29:43,283
attracted to somebody
who is accused of crimes
550
00:29:43,366 --> 00:29:46,369
of this horrific magnitude.
551
00:29:46,453 --> 00:29:48,163
Woman: Everyone makes him look
so bad, you know,
552
00:29:48,246 --> 00:29:50,373
but I know that he's --
553
00:29:50,498 --> 00:29:53,543
he's a nice person
'cause I've met him and I know.
554
00:29:53,626 --> 00:29:58,131
{\an8}It's an extreme,
exaggerated form
555
00:29:58,214 --> 00:30:04,304
{\an8}of the tendency of many women
to be attracted to bad boys,
556
00:30:04,387 --> 00:30:08,058
and there's some kind of
"Beauty and the Beast" fantasy
557
00:30:08,183 --> 00:30:09,559
going on.
558
00:30:09,684 --> 00:30:15,023
You know, "My love will
transform this creature
559
00:30:15,106 --> 00:30:17,650
into a warm, loving being."
560
00:30:19,527 --> 00:30:22,280
Hernandez:
Doreen Lioy was one of Richard's
561
00:30:22,405 --> 00:30:26,451
very persistent followers --
groupies.
562
00:30:26,576 --> 00:30:31,664
She was a, you know,
very eloquent, very sharp lady.
563
00:30:31,748 --> 00:30:34,876
One of the things that she did
was claiming
564
00:30:34,959 --> 00:30:36,586
that she wanted to die with him
565
00:30:36,711 --> 00:30:39,214
and she would go
and kill herself,
566
00:30:39,297 --> 00:30:42,717
you know,
if he was ever put to death.
567
00:30:42,801 --> 00:30:45,303
But she really liked to,
you know, write to Richard,
568
00:30:45,428 --> 00:30:48,598
and she apparently wrote
very good letters.
569
00:30:48,682 --> 00:30:51,851
You know, this is Los Angeles,
and even then,
570
00:30:51,935 --> 00:30:54,229
even as a young attorney,
571
00:30:54,312 --> 00:30:56,648
it just seemed to be
par for the course.
572
00:30:56,773 --> 00:31:00,026
It's show biz,
and it was a distraction
573
00:31:00,110 --> 00:31:01,820
because it was annoying.
574
00:31:03,697 --> 00:31:08,410
At that time, it was like the --
the case of the century.
575
00:31:08,493 --> 00:31:10,120
Yochelson: There was a lot
of press coverage.
576
00:31:10,245 --> 00:31:12,997
Mostly print reporters
were there.
577
00:31:13,123 --> 00:31:15,667
There were still photographers
in the courtroom.
578
00:31:15,792 --> 00:31:17,961
Television filmed
the closing argument.
579
00:31:34,644 --> 00:31:36,646
{\an8}Many of the jurors
had tears in their eyes
580
00:31:36,771 --> 00:31:39,441
{\an8}as they listened to the horror.
581
00:31:46,531 --> 00:31:47,949
{\an8}Yochelson:
There was direct evidence.
582
00:31:48,033 --> 00:31:51,327
Surviving victims were able
to identify Ramirez
583
00:31:51,453 --> 00:31:52,954
and describe what he did.
584
00:31:53,038 --> 00:31:56,041
You connect his fingerprints
to a couple of the scenes.
585
00:31:56,166 --> 00:31:57,917
It's either Ramirez doing this
586
00:31:58,001 --> 00:32:01,171
or that somebody else
was wearing his fingerprints.
587
00:32:01,254 --> 00:32:02,839
The guns were linked to Ramirez
588
00:32:02,964 --> 00:32:04,674
that were used
at the crime scenes,
589
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,927
so that's another piece
of the circumstantial evidence.
590
00:32:08,011 --> 00:32:11,514
{\an8}And all the stolen property
traced back to him, as well.
591
00:32:11,639 --> 00:32:13,892
Yochelson: Richard Ramirez stole
a lot of jewelry,
592
00:32:14,017 --> 00:32:16,895
and a lot of this jewelry
was recovered
593
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:18,355
that was in turn identified
594
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,108
by either the victims
or the victims' survivors.
595
00:32:22,192 --> 00:32:23,360
Jordan:
Despite all the evidence,
596
00:32:23,443 --> 00:32:25,570
the defense team
continued to argue
597
00:32:25,695 --> 00:32:28,531
that Richard Ramirez
was just the wrong guy,
598
00:32:28,656 --> 00:32:31,076
and in one case, they actually
tried to implicate
599
00:32:31,201 --> 00:32:32,660
the victim's family.
600
00:32:32,744 --> 00:32:34,579
Reporter:
Jack Vincow discovered the body
601
00:32:34,704 --> 00:32:37,082
of his 79-year-old mother
stabbed to death
602
00:32:37,207 --> 00:32:38,750
in her Los Angeles apartment,
603
00:32:38,875 --> 00:32:42,003
but Vincow later admitted
under defense cross-examination
604
00:32:42,087 --> 00:32:44,506
that his mother had often
engaged in loud disputes
605
00:32:44,589 --> 00:32:47,175
with Vincow's mentally disturbed
brother Manny.
606
00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:49,344
Jenkins: So the defense was
shooting from the hip
607
00:32:49,427 --> 00:32:53,973
trying to create any kind of
diversion from Ramirez's guilt.
608
00:32:54,057 --> 00:32:57,560
We were not here to provide
total exoneration.
609
00:32:57,686 --> 00:33:01,398
We're trying to throw in
some kind of a reasonable doubt,
610
00:33:01,481 --> 00:33:04,693
you know, and that was our duty.
611
00:33:04,776 --> 00:33:06,194
Reporter:
But as Vincow described
612
00:33:06,277 --> 00:33:07,696
how he found his mother's body,
613
00:33:07,779 --> 00:33:12,033
Ramirez leaned forward
and smiled.
614
00:33:12,117 --> 00:33:15,078
Hancock: He had a little smirk
on his face.
615
00:33:15,203 --> 00:33:18,373
He was just radiating evil.
616
00:33:18,456 --> 00:33:21,960
Just -- just pure malevolence.
617
00:33:22,085 --> 00:33:25,505
I could feel waves of hatred
coming out of him
618
00:33:25,588 --> 00:33:28,258
and just pure malice.
619
00:33:28,341 --> 00:33:29,718
And I looked at him,
and I thought,
620
00:33:29,801 --> 00:33:32,595
"I better not look
at him anymore."
621
00:33:32,721 --> 00:33:34,931
Dietz: When he got the nickname
"Night Stalker,"
622
00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:37,392
{\an8}why not play it out
a little more
623
00:33:37,475 --> 00:33:38,601
{\an8}and get some more power
624
00:33:38,685 --> 00:33:40,895
{\an8}by scaring people
in the courtroom,
625
00:33:40,979 --> 00:33:45,025
creating images
that would be remembered
626
00:33:45,108 --> 00:33:49,112
decades later of his antics
in the courtroom?
627
00:33:49,195 --> 00:33:50,947
So he succeeded.
628
00:33:51,031 --> 00:33:52,699
Yochelson:
This was a long trial.
629
00:33:52,782 --> 00:33:55,493
We had approximately
165 witnesses,
630
00:33:55,618 --> 00:33:59,080
some 8,000 pages
of transcript or testimony
631
00:33:59,164 --> 00:34:02,959
that the jurors had to go
through to reach their verdict.
632
00:34:03,043 --> 00:34:06,004
And then a bizarre twist
made the public wonder
633
00:34:06,129 --> 00:34:09,758
if Richard Ramirez was
still killing from behind bars.
634
00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:15,138
One day, one of the jurors
didn't show up.
635
00:34:15,263 --> 00:34:19,017
But big deal. Death always went
with the territory.
636
00:34:19,142 --> 00:34:20,727
I'll see you in Disneyland.
637
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:26,816
{\an8}♪♪
638
00:34:31,279 --> 00:34:33,782
Reporter:
Dark sunglasses and shackles --
639
00:34:33,865 --> 00:34:35,909
that was Richard Ramirez's
daily attire
640
00:34:35,992 --> 00:34:38,453
throughout the almost
year-long Night Stalker trial.
641
00:34:38,536 --> 00:34:41,164
And from the very beginning,
prosecutor Philip Halpin
642
00:34:41,247 --> 00:34:44,167
left no doubt about
his intentions for Ramirez.
643
00:34:47,212 --> 00:34:51,174
{\an8}Ray Clark's argument was,
we got to have sympathy
644
00:34:51,299 --> 00:34:53,843
{\an8}even for the worst
of all people.
645
00:34:53,927 --> 00:34:56,179
{\an8}But you're not gonna
get sympathy for a guy
646
00:34:56,304 --> 00:34:59,474
{\an8}that had done
all these horrible things.
647
00:34:59,557 --> 00:35:02,352
{\an8}Some people would hang you
for spitting on a sidewalk.
648
00:35:02,435 --> 00:35:06,398
{\an8}I wouldn't hang you for
atrocities such as Hitler did.
649
00:35:06,523 --> 00:35:08,024
Hernandez:
I would've argued differently.
650
00:35:08,108 --> 00:35:09,526
We're talking about
a death penalty.
651
00:35:09,651 --> 00:35:11,069
We're gonna take
somebody's life.
652
00:35:11,194 --> 00:35:13,571
The state is gonna
execute somebody.
653
00:35:13,697 --> 00:35:18,159
{\an8}The prosecution's argument was
a very methodical argument.
654
00:35:18,243 --> 00:35:21,329
It was simply going through
all the crimes,
655
00:35:21,413 --> 00:35:24,582
listing all of this evidence
that linked Ramirez.
656
00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:27,127
Jordan: It was a long
and tumultuous trial.
657
00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:30,630
{\an8}In the end, there were
165 witnesses
658
00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:33,883
{\an8}and 658 pieces of evidence
presented
659
00:35:34,009 --> 00:35:35,927
before the defense
and the prosecution
660
00:35:36,052 --> 00:35:38,304
gave their final
closing arguments.
661
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,728
As the jury was deliberating
this mountain of evidence
662
00:35:44,811 --> 00:35:46,396
that they had to consider,
663
00:35:46,521 --> 00:35:50,608
one day, one of the jurors
didn't show up.
664
00:35:50,734 --> 00:35:53,111
Then she was found dead.
665
00:35:53,236 --> 00:35:55,572
There was a lot of speculation
in the media that --
666
00:35:55,697 --> 00:35:57,991
that the murder of this juror
667
00:35:58,074 --> 00:36:00,160
was really somehow
related to the case,
668
00:36:00,243 --> 00:36:01,661
that it was a conspiracy --
669
00:36:01,745 --> 00:36:05,165
maybe, perhaps Ramirez
had followers who had done this,
670
00:36:05,248 --> 00:36:08,460
that Ramirez had somehow
orchestrated this.
671
00:36:08,585 --> 00:36:11,880
Well, the rumors included me
as a co-conspirator.
672
00:36:11,963 --> 00:36:15,925
I was the prime suspect.
673
00:36:16,051 --> 00:36:17,260
Yochelson:
None of this was true.
674
00:36:17,385 --> 00:36:19,763
It was an act
of domestic violence
675
00:36:19,846 --> 00:36:21,765
on the part
of the juror's husband.
676
00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:23,350
But this was all out there,
677
00:36:23,433 --> 00:36:25,769
and the defense argued
that there should be a mistrial
678
00:36:25,894 --> 00:36:28,938
because they were afraid
that the jurors would speculate
679
00:36:29,022 --> 00:36:32,192
that it was somehow
connected to the case.
680
00:36:32,275 --> 00:36:34,027
{\an8}You know, I thought, "Oh, boy.
681
00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:35,487
{\an8}If they're gonna need to
declare a mistrial,
682
00:36:35,612 --> 00:36:37,447
{\an8}that's gonna be God awful."
683
00:36:37,572 --> 00:36:40,450
An alternate juror
was substituted in,
684
00:36:40,575 --> 00:36:41,910
and under California law,
685
00:36:41,993 --> 00:36:46,414
the jury had to begin their
deliberations all over again.
686
00:36:46,498 --> 00:36:48,041
Jordan:
After such a chaotic trial,
687
00:36:48,124 --> 00:36:51,044
the jury had to deal with
this awful distraction
688
00:36:51,127 --> 00:36:53,296
and the murder
of one of their own.
689
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:55,757
But in the end,
they did their job.
690
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:02,639
{\an8}♪♪
691
00:37:02,722 --> 00:37:04,599
Reporter: Richard Ramirez wasn't
in the courtroom
692
00:37:04,683 --> 00:37:06,059
to hear the verdict against him.
693
00:37:06,142 --> 00:37:07,977
He opted to stay in his cell
694
00:37:08,103 --> 00:37:10,855
for what was
a loud and clear decision.
695
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:12,315
"We, the jury in the above
entitled action,
696
00:37:12,399 --> 00:37:13,983
find the defendant,
Richard Ramirez,
697
00:37:14,109 --> 00:37:16,236
guilty of murder."
698
00:37:16,319 --> 00:37:17,654
Yochelson:
They came back with verdicts
699
00:37:17,737 --> 00:37:21,157
convicting Ramirez
of 13 counts of murder,
700
00:37:21,282 --> 00:37:23,201
murder in the first degree,
701
00:37:23,326 --> 00:37:25,370
with various what are called
special circumstances
702
00:37:25,495 --> 00:37:27,205
making him eligible
for the death penalty,
703
00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:29,374
and then 30 other felonies.
704
00:37:29,499 --> 00:37:32,627
He was yelling from
the holding cell, "I'm guilty.
705
00:37:32,711 --> 00:37:36,047
I want the death penalty.
I want to die now."
706
00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:38,091
Reporter: When Richard Ramirez
was found guilty,
707
00:37:38,174 --> 00:37:41,219
he left the courthouse
flashing the sign of Satan.
708
00:37:41,344 --> 00:37:42,762
Evil.
709
00:37:42,846 --> 00:37:45,974
Reporter:
When he returned to find out if he would live or die,
710
00:37:46,057 --> 00:37:47,684
he flashed an obscenity.
711
00:37:47,809 --> 00:37:53,523
{\an8}♪♪
712
00:37:53,606 --> 00:37:56,151
The final courtroom chapter
of a serial killer
713
00:37:56,234 --> 00:37:58,528
was played out
for Richard Ramirez.
714
00:37:58,611 --> 00:38:00,530
The 29-year-old
devil-worshipping
715
00:38:00,655 --> 00:38:01,740
drifter from Texas
716
00:38:01,865 --> 00:38:04,325
had been found guilty
of the heinous crimes.
717
00:38:04,409 --> 00:38:07,537
This courtroom date was
to pronounce final sentencing.
718
00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:09,122
I don't think anyone
was surprised
719
00:38:09,205 --> 00:38:11,124
when the sentence was read.
720
00:38:11,207 --> 00:38:12,584
"We, the jury in the above
entitled action,
721
00:38:12,709 --> 00:38:14,294
found it to be
an intentional murder,
722
00:38:14,377 --> 00:38:17,547
fix the penalty
therefore at death."
723
00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:19,466
Reporter:
And Ramirez finally spoke,
724
00:38:19,549 --> 00:38:22,969
evoking the spirit of Satan
after a year-long trial.
725
00:38:38,485 --> 00:38:41,738
When he was leaving
the courtroom for the last time,
726
00:38:41,863 --> 00:38:43,323
he made some statements.
727
00:38:43,406 --> 00:38:45,909
Reporter: He made it very clear
he is not afraid to die.
728
00:38:46,034 --> 00:38:49,788
But big deal. Death always went
with the territory.
729
00:38:49,913 --> 00:38:52,082
I'll see you in Disneyland.
730
00:38:52,207 --> 00:38:53,541
Jordan:
As the trial ended,
731
00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:55,710
his time in the spotlight
was over,
732
00:38:55,794 --> 00:38:59,381
but still there was one person
who would stick by his side.
733
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:03,551
Man: Here she comes.
734
00:39:03,635 --> 00:39:06,429
Man #2: She's here
and walking in the door.
735
00:39:06,513 --> 00:39:08,723
Martin:
Doreen Lioy was the winner
736
00:39:08,807 --> 00:39:11,267
{\an8}in the serious suitors
that he had attracted
737
00:39:11,393 --> 00:39:14,646
{\an8}during the course of the trial.
738
00:39:14,771 --> 00:39:17,649
I just wanted to say
I'm ecstatically happy today
739
00:39:17,774 --> 00:39:20,860
and very, very proud
to have married Richard
740
00:39:20,944 --> 00:39:22,696
and to be his wife.
741
00:39:22,779 --> 00:39:26,741
And I hope that you will be
very respectful of the day
742
00:39:26,825 --> 00:39:30,578
and let me go
and enjoy my day in peace,
743
00:39:30,662 --> 00:39:32,622
and I appreciate your patience.
Thank you.
744
00:39:32,706 --> 00:39:34,499
Reporter: Couldn't you respond
to some of the allegations
745
00:39:34,624 --> 00:39:35,709
that you're a recluse,
746
00:39:35,792 --> 00:39:37,460
that you live in a fantasy
world, things like that?
747
00:39:37,544 --> 00:39:40,839
- No.
- Don't you want to speak to us?
748
00:39:40,964 --> 00:39:43,425
Can you just say why,
Doreen?
749
00:39:45,593 --> 00:39:48,972
In 2009, the San Francisco
police department
750
00:39:49,097 --> 00:39:54,644
was able to link an unsolved
homicide of a small child.
751
00:39:54,728 --> 00:39:57,939
Once he had his DNA
in the system,
752
00:39:58,023 --> 00:40:00,567
they started finding out,
for example, the little girl,
753
00:40:00,650 --> 00:40:03,778
9-year-old that was killed
in San Francisco.
754
00:40:03,862 --> 00:40:07,699
{\an8}She was killed
and sexually assaulted,
755
00:40:07,824 --> 00:40:09,659
which was a terrible case.
756
00:40:12,162 --> 00:40:14,330
Jordan:
Doreen Lioy divorced Ramirez,
757
00:40:14,456 --> 00:40:16,624
citing this information
as the reason
758
00:40:16,708 --> 00:40:20,420
she wanted to distance herself
from the Night Stalker.
759
00:40:23,923 --> 00:40:26,384
Kristof: He never showed
any sign of remorse
760
00:40:26,509 --> 00:40:28,553
all through the trials.
761
00:40:28,678 --> 00:40:31,723
{\an8}He never showed any sign
of remorse whatsoever.
762
00:40:31,848 --> 00:40:33,808
{\an8}He was just a monster.
763
00:40:33,892 --> 00:40:38,021
I don't think we've seen the
likes of him before or since,
764
00:40:38,146 --> 00:40:40,106
and thank God for that.
765
00:40:41,775 --> 00:40:48,406
{\an8}Since the mid-1980s, I've asked
the correctional officers
766
00:40:48,531 --> 00:40:52,369
to unchain the inmate
that I was going to interview
767
00:40:52,494 --> 00:40:54,829
so that he'd be comfortable.
768
00:40:54,913 --> 00:40:59,959
Richard Ramirez is
the only inmate I've interviewed
769
00:41:00,043 --> 00:41:05,298
for whom I did not request
he be freed and unchained.
770
00:41:08,051 --> 00:41:10,970
Carns: It has put a huge detour
into my life.
771
00:41:11,054 --> 00:41:14,557
I wasn't the same person
I was prior to the injury.
772
00:41:14,683 --> 00:41:20,897
Now it's time to pick up
the pieces and keep going on.
773
00:41:21,022 --> 00:41:23,733
{\an8}He would've never stopped.
774
00:41:23,817 --> 00:41:25,527
{\an8}He would've never stopped.
775
00:41:31,449 --> 00:41:34,369
{\an8}Richard Ramirez continued
to attract female admirers
776
00:41:34,452 --> 00:41:37,706
{\an8}from behind the walls
of San Quentin up until his end.
777
00:41:37,789 --> 00:41:40,291
{\an8}After almost 24 years
on death row,
778
00:41:40,417 --> 00:41:45,672
{\an8}Ramirez died on June 7, 2013,
at the age of 53 --
779
00:41:45,755 --> 00:41:47,007
{\an8}not by execution
780
00:41:47,090 --> 00:41:50,343
{\an8}but from complications
related to B-cell lymphoma.
781
00:41:50,427 --> 00:41:53,221
{\an8}Meanwhile, victims' families
and survivors
782
00:41:53,304 --> 00:41:55,015
{\an8}of the Night Stalker's
vicious attacks
783
00:41:55,098 --> 00:41:58,935
{\an8}did what they could to move
forward with their lives.
784
00:41:59,019 --> 00:42:00,228
{\an8}I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
785
00:42:00,311 --> 00:42:01,688
{\an8}Thanks for watching.
786
00:42:01,771 --> 00:42:03,273
{\an8}Good night.
64074
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