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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,418 --> 00:00:07,590 {\an8}♪♪ 2 00:00:07,716 --> 00:00:10,093 Larry King: What did you get out of it? 3 00:00:10,218 --> 00:00:12,887 David: Nothing. 4 00:00:12,971 --> 00:00:15,473 I just, like, felt I had no mind. 5 00:00:16,725 --> 00:00:18,518 I felt something else was controlling -- 6 00:00:18,601 --> 00:00:20,020 controlling me. 7 00:00:20,103 --> 00:00:30,030 {\an8}♪♪ 8 00:00:30,113 --> 00:00:37,620 {\an8}♪♪ 9 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:45,003 {\an8}♪♪ 10 00:00:45,128 --> 00:00:47,130 Welcome to "Very Scary People." 11 00:00:47,255 --> 00:00:48,423 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 12 00:00:48,506 --> 00:00:52,677 Between July of 1976 and June of 1977, 13 00:00:52,802 --> 00:00:56,097 David Berkowitz was busy making nightmares a reality, 14 00:00:56,181 --> 00:00:59,017 maiming or killing 11 innocent victims. 15 00:00:59,142 --> 00:01:01,936 Certain he was targeting long-haired brunettes, 16 00:01:02,020 --> 00:01:05,106 women began cutting and coloring their hair. 17 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:06,691 Couples avoided going out. 18 00:01:06,816 --> 00:01:09,986 All to escape being attacked by the Son of Sam. 19 00:01:10,111 --> 00:01:12,489 Panic in New York City was mounting. 20 00:01:12,572 --> 00:01:15,283 Where and when would the killer strike next? 21 00:01:15,367 --> 00:01:16,826 Police had no real leads. 22 00:01:16,951 --> 00:01:20,455 Then, finally, a mistake puts an end to the terror. 23 00:01:20,538 --> 00:01:25,168 This is part two of "Son Of Sam: I am a Monster." 24 00:01:25,251 --> 00:01:31,007 {\an8}♪♪ 25 00:01:31,132 --> 00:01:33,009 Reporter: He struck in the dark of night, 26 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:36,179 popping out of the shadows in the Bronx and Queens. 27 00:01:37,681 --> 00:01:39,391 Kamen: There was nothing that told them the killer 28 00:01:39,516 --> 00:01:41,351 {\an8}was about to do open fire on them, 29 00:01:41,434 --> 00:01:42,560 and he did. 30 00:01:45,146 --> 00:01:47,190 Man: A killer made his way from one dark street 31 00:01:47,315 --> 00:01:50,860 to another without a face and name, without an identity. 32 00:01:50,985 --> 00:01:52,153 He was an M.O. 33 00:01:52,237 --> 00:01:55,281 {\an8}Everyone agreed that it was a young white male 34 00:01:55,365 --> 00:01:59,369 between 25 and 30 years old, about 6 feet tall. 35 00:01:59,452 --> 00:02:00,620 Borrelli: "I am a monster." 36 00:02:00,704 --> 00:02:03,790 Kamen: "I am the Son of Sam." 37 00:02:03,873 --> 00:02:06,793 {\an8}It scared the shit out of 7 million people 38 00:02:06,876 --> 00:02:08,169 {\an8}that lived in the city. 39 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:10,296 Reporter #2: Young people stopped sitting in cars, 40 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:11,673 stopped going out, 41 00:02:11,756 --> 00:02:14,551 or went out only when they absolutely had to. 42 00:02:14,634 --> 00:02:16,219 {\an8}Everybody was afraid. 43 00:02:16,302 --> 00:02:18,221 {\an8}Because they really don't know 44 00:02:18,346 --> 00:02:20,223 {\an8}where he's going to turn up next. 45 00:02:20,306 --> 00:02:23,727 He captivated this city for an entire year. 46 00:02:26,521 --> 00:02:29,566 So, who was this monster 47 00:02:29,649 --> 00:02:32,235 that was stalking the city of New York? 48 00:02:32,318 --> 00:02:33,570 David: I knew it was wrong, 49 00:02:33,653 --> 00:02:37,782 but when a mind is captured by Satan, 50 00:02:37,907 --> 00:02:39,826 you can't look at things and evaluate things 51 00:02:39,909 --> 00:02:42,829 in their right perspective. 52 00:02:42,912 --> 00:02:46,124 He was adopted by Pearl and Nathan Berkowitz. 53 00:02:46,249 --> 00:02:49,252 He seemed to have a relatively normal childhood at first, 54 00:02:49,336 --> 00:02:52,797 but then behavioral issues started to bubble up. 55 00:02:52,922 --> 00:02:58,428 {\an8}His adoptive mother died of cancer when he was 14. 56 00:02:58,511 --> 00:03:00,430 Interviewer: What was that like for you? 57 00:03:00,513 --> 00:03:02,098 David: Completely devastating. 58 00:03:02,223 --> 00:03:07,854 {\an8}♪♪ 59 00:03:07,937 --> 00:03:13,777 Jordan: June 26, 1977, Judy Placido, 17 years old, 60 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:15,612 and Salvatore Lupo. 61 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:19,407 They had gone out to a disco in Queens. 62 00:03:19,491 --> 00:03:22,410 At the end of the night, they walked back to the car 63 00:03:22,494 --> 00:03:24,454 and got inside. 64 00:03:24,537 --> 00:03:27,332 {\an8}They were actually talking about the murders happening 65 00:03:27,457 --> 00:03:32,128 {\an8}and how scary it was, and then it hit them. 66 00:03:32,253 --> 00:03:34,756 {\an8}Klausner: The same thing that's happened before -- 67 00:03:34,839 --> 00:03:39,010 {\an8}a figure walks up, takes a shooting stance, and bang! 68 00:03:39,135 --> 00:03:41,971 {\an8} 69 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:44,224 {\an8}That particular night, my partner and myself, 70 00:03:44,307 --> 00:03:46,101 {\an8}we were just a couple of blocks away. 71 00:03:46,184 --> 00:03:48,770 And by the time we got there, it was said and done. 72 00:03:48,853 --> 00:03:51,481 He's evaded capture. 73 00:03:51,564 --> 00:03:53,108 Jordan: Even though Judy and Sal survived, 74 00:03:53,191 --> 00:03:56,611 they really couldn't provide any description to the police. 75 00:03:56,695 --> 00:03:58,863 Police, once again, were stumped. 76 00:03:58,988 --> 00:04:04,494 Those things create an image that he will not be caught. 77 00:04:04,577 --> 00:04:07,122 The police cannot see him. 78 00:04:07,205 --> 00:04:11,960 He is a wisp of smoke that just dissipates into the air. 79 00:04:12,043 --> 00:04:13,169 King: So, there was no plan 80 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:14,963 on how I'm gonna get away with this? 81 00:04:15,046 --> 00:04:15,839 David: No. 82 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:18,425 No plan to deceive? No, no. 83 00:04:18,508 --> 00:04:21,011 I was just a real mess. 84 00:04:21,136 --> 00:04:27,225 {\an8}♪♪ 85 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:30,061 Klausner: The police really have nothing to go on. 86 00:04:30,186 --> 00:04:32,731 Is there going to be another shooting? 87 00:04:32,856 --> 00:04:35,233 Of course, the police knew there would be. 88 00:04:35,358 --> 00:04:38,194 More police officers are assigned, 89 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:41,740 Queens and the Bronx, but he won't strike there again. 90 00:04:41,865 --> 00:04:44,034 Now he will strike in Brooklyn. 91 00:04:44,159 --> 00:04:49,456 {\an8}♪♪ 92 00:04:49,539 --> 00:04:52,751 Jordan: On July 31, 1977, 93 00:04:52,876 --> 00:04:55,837 Robert Violante and Stacy Moskowitz 94 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,048 were out on a date in Brooklyn. 95 00:04:58,131 --> 00:05:00,925 Kamen: Stacy's mom, Neysa Moskowitz, said, 96 00:05:01,051 --> 00:05:03,094 "You be careful tonight, sweetheart." 97 00:05:03,219 --> 00:05:06,139 The warning could not prevent the nightmare. 98 00:05:06,222 --> 00:05:09,642 Stacy's response was, "Mom, I'm a blonde." 99 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,856 Jordan: At the end of their night, they drove down to a park 100 00:05:14,939 --> 00:05:16,816 underneath the Verrazzano Bridge, 101 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:19,235 which was a well-known lovers' lane. 102 00:05:19,361 --> 00:05:23,865 They were in an area where couples would park. 103 00:05:23,948 --> 00:05:25,241 Jordan: They got out of the car 104 00:05:25,325 --> 00:05:27,077 and walked over to the swing set. 105 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:34,084 {\an8}♪♪ 106 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:36,378 But they saw a man watching them.. 107 00:05:38,254 --> 00:05:40,382 ...and decided to return to the car. 108 00:05:40,465 --> 00:05:44,260 Klausner: And at that moment, the shooting occurs. 109 00:05:44,386 --> 00:05:46,888 {\an8}Whoever would have been in that particular spot 110 00:05:46,971 --> 00:05:48,181 {\an8}would have gotten killed. 111 00:05:48,264 --> 00:05:50,934 It was my daughter's unfortunate luck 112 00:05:51,059 --> 00:05:52,435 to have been there. 113 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,273 He approached the car, and he fired through the window. 114 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:02,028 Woman: He was covered with blood, 115 00:06:02,112 --> 00:06:03,613 and the girl was covered with blood. 116 00:06:03,738 --> 00:06:05,990 It was a horror. 117 00:06:06,116 --> 00:06:08,451 Just started screaming, just screaming and screaming. 118 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:14,416 Stacy Moskowitz was transported to the hospital, where she died. 119 00:06:14,499 --> 00:06:19,004 And Robert Violante was shot and blinded for life. 120 00:06:19,129 --> 00:06:22,382 {\an8}I lost something very dear to me. 121 00:06:22,465 --> 00:06:25,468 {\an8}Great kid. 122 00:06:25,593 --> 00:06:28,555 Kamen: You have to really feel for the cops on this. 123 00:06:28,638 --> 00:06:29,848 They're waiting for something 124 00:06:29,973 --> 00:06:31,516 that will let them put things together. 125 00:06:31,641 --> 00:06:35,311 They want to stop the killer. They have to stop the killer. 126 00:06:35,437 --> 00:06:37,397 Collarini-Schlossberg: Inevitably, 127 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,523 killers make mistakes. 128 00:06:38,648 --> 00:06:40,900 And so did the Son of Sam. 129 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,867 It seems that David Berkowitz had looked into his background 130 00:06:48,992 --> 00:06:53,079 shortly before he started his killing spree. 131 00:06:53,163 --> 00:06:56,708 He wants to find out more about his birth family. 132 00:06:56,833 --> 00:06:59,502 Klausner: David had this idealistic view 133 00:06:59,586 --> 00:07:03,506 of what his real mother and father would be like. 134 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:08,595 And, unfortunately, he isn't happy with what he finds out. 135 00:07:08,678 --> 00:07:10,889 David: My parents told me, 136 00:07:11,014 --> 00:07:12,599 I think when I was around 5 or 6 years old, 137 00:07:12,682 --> 00:07:13,850 that I was adopted. 138 00:07:13,975 --> 00:07:15,977 I really had a hard time with that 139 00:07:16,061 --> 00:07:18,480 because my parents, meaning well 140 00:07:18,563 --> 00:07:22,025 and probably under the instruction of other people, 141 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:24,694 were told to tell me that my mom had died 142 00:07:24,778 --> 00:07:26,237 while giving birth to me 143 00:07:26,363 --> 00:07:28,573 and that my dad couldn't care for me, 144 00:07:28,698 --> 00:07:30,241 so he put me up for adoption. 145 00:07:30,367 --> 00:07:31,659 Interviewer: But that wasn't true, was it? 146 00:07:31,743 --> 00:07:33,536 No. 147 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:36,039 Jordan: His father, Nate, finally told him the truth. 148 00:07:36,164 --> 00:07:39,959 His mother hadn't actually died in childbirth. 149 00:07:40,043 --> 00:07:42,837 David: I think now, looking back in retrospect, 150 00:07:42,921 --> 00:07:44,464 there was times I had a lot of guilt 151 00:07:44,547 --> 00:07:47,717 because I thought that somehow, in some way, 152 00:07:47,842 --> 00:07:50,220 I was responsible for the death of my mom. 153 00:07:50,303 --> 00:07:53,056 I see it did cause a lot of difficulty in my life. 154 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:56,059 I had internal struggles over that issue. 155 00:07:57,894 --> 00:08:02,899 {\an8}David was actually born to Betty Falco. 156 00:08:03,024 --> 00:08:06,486 David is a baby out of wedlock. 157 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:08,738 She had had an affair. 158 00:08:08,863 --> 00:08:10,156 Her pregnancy with David 159 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,117 was, in fact, a product of the affair. 160 00:08:12,242 --> 00:08:14,035 But even more disturbing to David 161 00:08:14,119 --> 00:08:16,913 was the fact that Betty had a daughter named Roslyn, 162 00:08:16,996 --> 00:08:19,874 13 years older, that she had never given up. 163 00:08:19,958 --> 00:08:22,293 And he went to great length 164 00:08:22,419 --> 00:08:25,505 to search out his natural family. 165 00:08:25,588 --> 00:08:28,550 And he actually met his natural mother, 166 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:31,594 his sister, and her children. 167 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:37,434 And they had, at one point, you know, a nice relationship. 168 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,771 And then, ultimately, he felt greatly rejected 169 00:08:41,896 --> 00:08:44,190 by his natural mother, Betty, 170 00:08:44,274 --> 00:08:50,947 because although she retained and cared for his sister, 171 00:08:51,072 --> 00:08:53,950 she chose to give him away. 172 00:08:54,075 --> 00:08:55,410 Jordan: This would cause 173 00:08:55,493 --> 00:08:58,246 a deep-seated and harboring rage within him. 174 00:08:58,329 --> 00:09:01,666 The psychiatrists found the interaction 175 00:09:01,791 --> 00:09:03,460 with the birth mother 176 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:07,297 and his older sister quite significant 177 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:12,969 in terms of what may have led him to kill. 178 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:16,139 These are all very powerful experiences 179 00:09:16,264 --> 00:09:19,309 in the life of someone who feels inadequate to begin with. 180 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:21,269 The abandonment by his mother, 181 00:09:21,353 --> 00:09:24,064 the death of his adoptive mother, 182 00:09:24,147 --> 00:09:26,107 the fact that he never had a girlfriend -- 183 00:09:26,191 --> 00:09:28,568 all of these negative experiences 184 00:09:28,651 --> 00:09:31,529 really bubbled up into a rage 185 00:09:31,654 --> 00:09:34,115 where he wanted to get back at women. 186 00:09:34,199 --> 00:09:37,118 At that point, he was certainly delusional. 187 00:09:37,202 --> 00:09:40,997 And I think his delusions pushed him in the direction 188 00:09:41,081 --> 00:09:42,582 of these horrible crimes. 189 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:48,254 And very shortly after, will start out on this rampage. 190 00:09:48,338 --> 00:09:51,132 When David Berkowitz aimed and shot 191 00:09:51,216 --> 00:09:52,842 each of those young women, 192 00:09:52,967 --> 00:09:55,345 he is symbolically killing every woman 193 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:58,348 who has ever rejected him or let him down. 194 00:10:00,350 --> 00:10:05,522 {\an8}♪♪ 195 00:10:09,401 --> 00:10:11,361 {\an8} 196 00:10:11,444 --> 00:10:21,371 {\an8}♪♪ 197 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:30,922 {\an8}♪♪ 198 00:10:31,006 --> 00:10:32,257 {\an8}♪♪ 199 00:10:32,382 --> 00:10:36,177 {\an8}He looked me straight in the face, he looked at my dog. 200 00:10:36,261 --> 00:10:39,264 {\an8}And right here... 201 00:10:39,389 --> 00:10:41,433 {\an8}we crossed each other. 202 00:10:41,516 --> 00:10:43,852 {\an8}Cecilia Davis didn't like the look of this guy, 203 00:10:43,935 --> 00:10:45,270 {\an8}so she hurried home. 204 00:10:45,395 --> 00:10:47,939 And just as she got inside her house and closed the door, 205 00:10:48,064 --> 00:10:50,275 she heard the rain of bullets... 206 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,780 ...the shooting that took the lives of Robert and Stacy. 207 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:58,825 She told the police about this strange man 208 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:00,827 she saw just before the shooting, 209 00:11:00,952 --> 00:11:02,996 and she remembered something else. 210 00:11:03,121 --> 00:11:05,206 Justus: On the night of the Moskowitz shooting, 211 00:11:05,290 --> 00:11:09,627 she saw the police officers issuing a summons to a car. 212 00:11:09,711 --> 00:11:12,380 It was right next to the hydrant by her home. 213 00:11:12,464 --> 00:11:20,930 {\an8}♪♪ 214 00:11:21,014 --> 00:11:24,809 {\an8}So, the first thing you do is you pull all the summonses 215 00:11:24,893 --> 00:11:26,311 {\an8}that are issued. 216 00:11:26,394 --> 00:11:27,604 {\an8}Boring? Yeah. 217 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:29,314 {\an8}But it's something that had to be done. 218 00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:32,650 Jordan: There could be other witnesses besides Cecilia Davis 219 00:11:32,734 --> 00:11:35,028 who could give them a clue as to who the shooter is. 220 00:11:35,153 --> 00:11:36,780 Breslin: But the police looked for the ticket, 221 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:38,656 {\an8}and they couldn't find the ticket. 222 00:11:38,782 --> 00:11:41,493 There was a thought that maybe there was no summons served, 223 00:11:41,618 --> 00:11:43,912 but she was so positive of it. 224 00:11:43,995 --> 00:11:45,538 Where is it? 225 00:11:45,663 --> 00:11:47,624 I found out who the police officer was 226 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:50,835 that had that sector, called him on the phone, 227 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,005 and I asked him, you know, "Did you issue a summons?" 228 00:11:54,130 --> 00:11:55,465 And he said, "Yes." 229 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:59,177 And I asked him, "Well, why wasn't the summons turned in?" 230 00:11:59,260 --> 00:12:02,222 He said the chaos that night -- when somebody gets shot, 231 00:12:02,347 --> 00:12:05,308 the last thing you're thinking about is that stupid summons. 232 00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:07,018 And he just forgot about it, 233 00:12:07,143 --> 00:12:10,397 and he stuck the summons in his hat. 234 00:12:10,522 --> 00:12:14,693 The patrolman who wrote the ticket didn't submit the ticket. 235 00:12:14,818 --> 00:12:18,446 He put it in his locker for a couple of days. 236 00:12:18,530 --> 00:12:23,201 {\an8}Again, this whole thing is going towards a possible witness. 237 00:12:23,284 --> 00:12:27,789 {\an8}I went in and I looked in his summons receipt book. 238 00:12:27,872 --> 00:12:33,044 {\an8}They found four that were handed out that night by the police. 239 00:12:33,128 --> 00:12:36,798 {\an8}Kamen: And there's a parking ticket for a vehicle 240 00:12:36,881 --> 00:12:38,675 {\an8}that isn't even a New York City vehicle. 241 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:42,721 {\an8}It's from this northern suburb, Yonkers. 242 00:12:42,804 --> 00:12:45,765 Klausner: From a car that was parked 243 00:12:45,890 --> 00:12:48,727 at a fire hydrant, a Ford Galaxy, 244 00:12:48,810 --> 00:12:52,897 to someone named David Berkowitz. 245 00:12:52,981 --> 00:12:55,567 Max: They're looking at this and thinking, 246 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:57,235 "What is this guy, you know, from Yonkers, 247 00:12:57,318 --> 00:13:00,113 you know, doing in Brooklyn, in that neighborhood?" 248 00:13:00,238 --> 00:13:02,032 It just seemed out of place. 249 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:04,743 There is a higher power, as they say. 250 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:10,999 So, Justus picks up the phone, and he calls the Yonkers P.D. 251 00:13:11,082 --> 00:13:13,877 and a very pleasant woman answers the phone. 252 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,629 Thank God the person on the switchboard 253 00:13:16,755 --> 00:13:19,883 was Wheat Carr. 254 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:21,926 Jordan: Wheat Carr was the daughter 255 00:13:22,052 --> 00:13:23,636 of Yonkers resident Sam Carr. 256 00:13:23,762 --> 00:13:25,096 Over the previous year, 257 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:27,932 the Carr family had been harassed by somebody. 258 00:13:28,016 --> 00:13:30,643 They had a dog named Harvey, and Harvey would bark. 259 00:13:32,103 --> 00:13:34,105 The harasser sent threatening letters 260 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:36,983 complaining about Sam's barking dog, 261 00:13:37,108 --> 00:13:39,944 threw a Molotov cocktail into their yard. 262 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:44,449 And one night, the person shoots their dog. 263 00:13:44,532 --> 00:13:46,076 The Carr family had figured out 264 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:50,121 that the person doing it was their neighbor, David Berkowitz. 265 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:55,877 So when Detective Justus calls Yonkers to look into Berkowitz 266 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,755 as a possible witness to the Moskowitz murder, 267 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:02,384 by complete coincidence, Wheat Carr picks up the phone 268 00:14:02,467 --> 00:14:04,135 because she just so happens 269 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:07,263 to be a dispatcher for the Yonkers P.D. 270 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:13,103 It was being at the right place at the right time, so to speak. 271 00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:16,481 And as soon as I mentioned David Berkowitz, 272 00:14:16,564 --> 00:14:19,401 she said, "Let me tell you about him. 273 00:14:19,484 --> 00:14:20,860 I know him." 274 00:14:20,985 --> 00:14:22,987 He lived in the apartment house 275 00:14:23,113 --> 00:14:26,491 directly behind where her and her father lived. 276 00:14:26,616 --> 00:14:27,992 She then related a story 277 00:14:28,076 --> 00:14:30,453 about her black Labrador retriever 278 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:33,164 being shot by Berkowitz, 279 00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:36,918 and the fact that Berkowitz was strange. 280 00:14:37,002 --> 00:14:39,129 Clark: He says, "He shot your father's dog?" 281 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:40,463 "Yeah." 282 00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:42,090 "What's your name?" "Wheat." 283 00:14:42,173 --> 00:14:45,802 In one of the letters, he had said, "Wheaties." 284 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,888 "Okay, what's your dad's name?" "Sam." 285 00:14:49,014 --> 00:14:51,808 "Sam?!" 286 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,853 And every great detective has instinct. 287 00:14:54,936 --> 00:14:58,565 I went back to my command, and my inspector was there. 288 00:14:58,690 --> 00:15:00,025 And he said, "Well, how'd it go?" 289 00:15:00,108 --> 00:15:03,987 And I said to him, "I think we got the guy." 290 00:15:04,070 --> 00:15:07,198 Collarini-Schlossberg: And the next step was to set him up 291 00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:09,242 {\an8}so that they could make an arrest. 292 00:15:09,367 --> 00:15:17,876 {\an8}♪♪ 293 00:15:17,959 --> 00:15:20,211 Jordan: On August 10, 1977, 294 00:15:20,337 --> 00:15:24,090 NYPD detectives take a road trip up to Yonkers, New York, 295 00:15:24,215 --> 00:15:28,178 and coordinate a stakeout on that Ford Galaxy. 296 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:32,515 It's parked right outside of David Berkowitz's apartment. 297 00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:35,643 {\an8}And they looked in the car. 298 00:15:35,727 --> 00:15:39,397 {\an8}Clark: And they see a duffel bag with a gun sticking out of it, 299 00:15:39,522 --> 00:15:42,150 {\an8}and this letter in that Son of Sam handwriting. 300 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:48,239 {\an8}So, what they did was, they set up a surveillance on the car. 301 00:15:48,365 --> 00:15:51,409 And they wait. 302 00:15:51,493 --> 00:15:53,912 Jordan: Sure enough, about 10:00 p.m. that night, 303 00:15:54,037 --> 00:15:57,082 a white, heavyset man with dark hair 304 00:15:57,165 --> 00:15:59,417 comes out and approaches the car. 305 00:16:01,086 --> 00:16:03,171 Coffey: He's got a brown paper bag in his hand. 306 00:16:03,254 --> 00:16:05,215 {\an8}He puts it on the car seat. 307 00:16:08,093 --> 00:16:12,764 {\an8}Within seconds, police have surrounded the vehicle. 308 00:16:12,847 --> 00:16:14,140 {\an8}He says, "Put your hands on the dashboard, 309 00:16:14,265 --> 00:16:16,685 {\an8}turn the ignition off," which he does. 310 00:16:18,853 --> 00:16:21,398 {\an8}He immediately said, "You got me." 311 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:22,607 And they said, "Who do we got?" 312 00:16:22,732 --> 00:16:25,443 He said, "I'm the Son of Sam." 313 00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:28,446 He's just smiling at them. 314 00:16:28,571 --> 00:16:29,906 He gives himself right up. 315 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:31,783 In the bag on the front seat of the car, 316 00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:35,120 {\an8}was the .44-caliber gun that killed all those people. 317 00:16:37,455 --> 00:16:40,750 Game over. 318 00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:42,919 Reporter #2: This is the man police say 319 00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:44,295 is the .44-caliber killer. 320 00:16:44,379 --> 00:16:47,799 Young, dark-haired, almost chubby. 321 00:16:47,924 --> 00:16:50,719 When he came into the building, 322 00:16:50,802 --> 00:16:53,138 we all had the same reaction -- 323 00:16:53,263 --> 00:16:56,307 how ordinary-looking this guy was. 324 00:16:56,391 --> 00:17:01,646 I think his appearance was almost startling to people. 325 00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:06,818 {\an8}All along, we think we're gonna find this screaming, crazy guy. 326 00:17:06,901 --> 00:17:08,987 He was a regular Joe. 327 00:17:09,112 --> 00:17:11,156 He had a big smile on his face. 328 00:17:11,281 --> 00:17:15,368 He was almost enjoying the fuss, the excitement. 329 00:17:15,493 --> 00:17:23,335 {\an8}♪♪ 330 00:17:26,755 --> 00:17:30,425 {\an8}I am very pleased to announce that the people 331 00:17:30,508 --> 00:17:35,513 {\an8}of the city of New York can rest easy this morning. 332 00:17:35,638 --> 00:17:39,351 Police have captured a man whom they believe 333 00:17:39,476 --> 00:17:42,187 to be the Son of Sam. 334 00:17:42,270 --> 00:17:43,688 Kamen: I was at the press conference. 335 00:17:43,813 --> 00:17:45,648 {\an8}You can imagine what this moment is like 336 00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:47,734 {\an8}across the entire New York City police department. 337 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:50,653 {\an8}Oh, I was elated. It was a wonderful feeling. 338 00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:53,656 {\an8}Hopkins: People were in the streets. They were partying. 339 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:57,327 {\an8}And it was all over the radio, TV. 340 00:18:09,047 --> 00:18:11,383 {\an8}David Berkowitz, when arrested -- 341 00:18:11,508 --> 00:18:14,803 {\an8}24-year-old guy, was working at the post office. 342 00:18:14,886 --> 00:18:18,264 {\an8}People who knew him said, "I would have had no idea." 343 00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:20,475 Hopkins: We went to the post office, where he worked, 344 00:18:20,558 --> 00:18:23,019 and they're all in disbelief. 345 00:18:23,103 --> 00:18:26,898 Max: He had been escorting some of his young female colleagues 346 00:18:27,023 --> 00:18:31,236 to walk to their cars because of this mass murderer on the loose. 347 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:33,530 Hopkins: One fellow says, "Well, every morning, 348 00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:34,781 he would have the newspaper." 349 00:18:34,906 --> 00:18:37,909 And at that time, this was in the newspaper 350 00:18:38,034 --> 00:18:40,078 every day, front page. 351 00:18:40,161 --> 00:18:41,788 And he would turn around and say to them, 352 00:18:41,913 --> 00:18:43,748 "I hope we get this son of a bitch." 353 00:18:43,873 --> 00:18:47,085 To me, that was -- that was crazy. 354 00:18:47,168 --> 00:18:52,590 {\an8}♪♪ 355 00:18:52,716 --> 00:18:54,759 {\an8}Klausner: They bring him to New York City 356 00:18:54,884 --> 00:18:57,554 {\an8}to the chief of detective's office. 357 00:18:57,637 --> 00:18:59,931 {\an8}Borrelli: We stuck him in a room all by himself, 358 00:19:00,015 --> 00:19:04,477 {\an8}and all the detectives that had a case went in, interviewed him. 359 00:19:04,602 --> 00:19:07,105 Hopkins: We all had a shot at him, questioning. 360 00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:08,606 It was an eerie feeling, 361 00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:12,694 'cause here's the conclusion of all that we did, 362 00:19:12,777 --> 00:19:14,779 and it's in front of us. 363 00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:17,282 David just tells them everything. 364 00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:19,951 He went through each of the killings. 365 00:19:20,035 --> 00:19:21,202 {\an8}He knew every detail. 366 00:19:21,286 --> 00:19:23,288 {\an8}He knew how he shot every victim. 367 00:19:23,371 --> 00:19:25,457 {\an8}He knew the conditions of the street. 368 00:19:25,540 --> 00:19:27,292 {\an8}He knew where he shot the victims. 369 00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:29,711 He knew what part of the body he shot them in. 370 00:19:29,794 --> 00:19:33,256 He's very nonchalant, sometimes a little bit of a smirk, 371 00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:35,091 which kind of unnerved you a little bit. 372 00:19:35,175 --> 00:19:39,304 {\an8}He was so proud of what he had done, that he was so famous, 373 00:19:39,429 --> 00:19:41,556 {\an8}and he couldn't wait to tell everybody about it. 374 00:19:41,639 --> 00:19:45,685 {\an8}He was, frankly, as he told me, greatly relieved. 375 00:19:48,605 --> 00:19:50,857 {\an8}Jordan: In his confessions to police 376 00:19:50,982 --> 00:19:52,275 {\an8}and subsequent interviews, 377 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,611 {\an8}David Berkowitz would provide the details 378 00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:58,865 that would shed light on each of those individual killings. 379 00:19:58,990 --> 00:20:01,284 One of the first shootings, he said that, 380 00:20:01,368 --> 00:20:04,913 "I saw the two girls in a car. 381 00:20:04,996 --> 00:20:06,998 I went around the block. 382 00:20:07,123 --> 00:20:08,541 There was my sign. 383 00:20:08,667 --> 00:20:10,293 There's this beautiful parking space. 384 00:20:10,377 --> 00:20:13,129 I pulled right into the parking space, walked up, shot them... 385 00:20:14,506 --> 00:20:16,591 ...got back in the car, and drove away." 386 00:20:16,675 --> 00:20:20,345 A spot to park his car was what got these girls shot. 387 00:20:21,930 --> 00:20:23,682 Jordan: After the second one... 388 00:20:25,725 --> 00:20:29,062 ...he pulled over at a White Castle hamburger restaurant 389 00:20:29,187 --> 00:20:30,772 and had a meal. 390 00:20:30,855 --> 00:20:38,321 {\an8}♪♪ 391 00:20:38,405 --> 00:20:39,864 There were a number of times 392 00:20:39,948 --> 00:20:43,118 when we learned through the interviewing process 393 00:20:43,201 --> 00:20:47,747 that Berkowitz had gone out perhaps intending to shoot 394 00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:49,624 but did not. 395 00:20:49,708 --> 00:20:51,584 Clark: He was out every night, driving around, 396 00:20:51,710 --> 00:20:52,961 waiting for something 397 00:20:53,044 --> 00:20:55,547 that triggered him to go shoot somebody. 398 00:20:55,672 --> 00:20:58,508 Hopkins: He probably traveled 400, 500 miles 399 00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:00,635 from one borough to another, 400 00:21:00,719 --> 00:21:03,972 and he was just searching out victims. 401 00:21:04,055 --> 00:21:05,765 {\an8}It was all opportunistic. 402 00:21:05,890 --> 00:21:10,395 Heller: There was never a specific rhyme or reason. 403 00:21:10,478 --> 00:21:11,896 It was just random shootings. 404 00:21:13,273 --> 00:21:17,193 He told me that his primary object was the female. 405 00:21:18,737 --> 00:21:20,238 And of course, in those days, 406 00:21:20,321 --> 00:21:22,073 young men wore their hair kind of long, 407 00:21:22,157 --> 00:21:24,993 so you didn't know whether you were necessarily 408 00:21:25,076 --> 00:21:27,495 shooting a male or a female. 409 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:29,664 In some instances, the men were hit, also. 410 00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:32,208 Klausner: He was embarrassed that he even shot at men, 411 00:21:32,292 --> 00:21:34,127 because that wasn't his objective. 412 00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:40,425 {\an8}♪♪ 413 00:21:40,508 --> 00:21:42,844 There were some stories, unfortunately, 414 00:21:42,927 --> 00:21:45,597 where they just missed the killer. 415 00:21:45,722 --> 00:21:48,850 There was a code put out, the 44 code. 416 00:21:48,933 --> 00:21:51,936 When that happened, the bridges were going to be manned 417 00:21:52,062 --> 00:21:55,690 by police officers after a shooting incident. 418 00:21:55,774 --> 00:22:00,695 There were two policewomen guarding the tollbooths. 419 00:22:00,779 --> 00:22:04,574 The killer was in the third car to come. 420 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:07,118 The gun was on the seat next to him. 421 00:22:07,243 --> 00:22:08,745 The two police decided 422 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:11,498 they weren't gonna have any business tonight, 423 00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:16,086 and they left just as the cars were pulling up. 424 00:22:16,169 --> 00:22:18,797 And he would have been stopped right there. 425 00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:27,389 {\an8}♪♪ 426 00:22:27,472 --> 00:22:31,393 In 1975, at Christmastime, 427 00:22:31,476 --> 00:22:36,147 David decides it's time for blood. 428 00:22:36,272 --> 00:22:42,487 So he accosts a young lady on a footbridge 429 00:22:42,612 --> 00:22:47,033 that spans a parkway in the Bronx. 430 00:22:47,158 --> 00:22:50,829 He described stabbing her multiple times. 431 00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:52,330 Collarini-Schlossberg: He thought that that was going to be 432 00:22:52,455 --> 00:22:55,667 an easy way to kill a person. 433 00:22:55,792 --> 00:22:58,670 He apparently had some ideas from TV shows 434 00:22:58,753 --> 00:23:01,923 {\an8}that the person was just going to get stabbed, 435 00:23:02,007 --> 00:23:03,174 {\an8}collapse, and die. 436 00:23:03,258 --> 00:23:07,971 And instead, this particular woman fought back. 437 00:23:08,054 --> 00:23:09,514 She starts to scream. 438 00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:12,183 And that disturbs him. 439 00:23:12,308 --> 00:23:20,358 {\an8}♪♪ 440 00:23:20,483 --> 00:23:26,156 {\an8}♪♪ 441 00:23:26,239 --> 00:23:27,699 Max: She didn't die. 442 00:23:27,782 --> 00:23:29,451 There was a little bit of panic that he described, 443 00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:35,123 with a knife actually going into another human being's flesh. 444 00:23:35,206 --> 00:23:37,876 Borrelli: He ran away. I guess then after that, 445 00:23:38,001 --> 00:23:39,669 he decided he was gonna use a gun. 446 00:23:39,753 --> 00:23:41,546 Collarini-Schlossberg: He really didn't want there 447 00:23:41,671 --> 00:23:43,006 to be too much of a messy scene for him. 448 00:23:43,089 --> 00:23:47,010 He wanted to do it, get it done, and go away. 449 00:23:47,093 --> 00:23:50,930 He had a friend purchase him the gun down in Texas. 450 00:23:51,056 --> 00:23:57,812 He will go to another state, get a straw purchase of a handgun, 451 00:23:57,896 --> 00:24:01,566 and come back to New York and start a shooting spree 452 00:24:01,691 --> 00:24:04,027 where you can shoot from a distance. 453 00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:07,030 It's less personal, in the same vein. 454 00:24:07,113 --> 00:24:14,079 {\an8}♪♪ 455 00:24:15,914 --> 00:24:20,418 {\an8}♪♪ 456 00:24:20,543 --> 00:24:23,129 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 457 00:24:23,254 --> 00:24:26,007 After his arrest in 1977, 458 00:24:26,091 --> 00:24:28,551 David Berkowitz readily admitted to police 459 00:24:28,635 --> 00:24:30,970 that he was the man they'd been searching for -- 460 00:24:31,096 --> 00:24:34,099 the serial killer known as the Son of Sam. 461 00:24:34,182 --> 00:24:36,476 The city was relieved to get him off the streets. 462 00:24:36,601 --> 00:24:38,895 And it couldn't have happened at a better time. 463 00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:40,271 On the night of his arrest, 464 00:24:40,397 --> 00:24:43,900 Berkowitz was allegedly going out to kill again. 465 00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:46,319 This time, headed to a nightclub in Long Island, 466 00:24:46,444 --> 00:24:49,072 where he planned to carry out a mass shooting. 467 00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:51,491 But there were still many questions that remained. 468 00:24:51,616 --> 00:24:53,576 In the first interrogation and confession, 469 00:24:53,660 --> 00:24:57,580 investigators asked the question everyone wanted to know -- 470 00:24:57,664 --> 00:24:59,416 Why did he kill? 471 00:25:02,043 --> 00:25:04,838 Kamen: David Berkowitz told the police 472 00:25:04,963 --> 00:25:07,048 that it really wasn't his fault. 473 00:25:07,132 --> 00:25:09,759 {\an8}He was doing the bidding of a powerful demon 474 00:25:09,843 --> 00:25:13,638 {\an8}that was speaking to him through his neighbor Sam Carr's dog. 475 00:25:13,722 --> 00:25:19,602 {\an8}He fixates on this Carr family mainly because of the dog. 476 00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:22,522 {\an8}The dog kept howling and waking him up. 477 00:25:22,647 --> 00:25:26,359 {\an8}And caused him a great deal of sleep deprivation. 478 00:25:26,484 --> 00:25:28,486 Jordan: He said that the dog barking 479 00:25:28,611 --> 00:25:29,738 was sending him a message 480 00:25:29,821 --> 00:25:32,490 {\an8}from a 6,000-year-old man named Sam 481 00:25:32,615 --> 00:25:35,160 and telling him that he had to go out and kill. 482 00:25:35,243 --> 00:25:37,662 Kamen: And so he was the Son of Sam. 483 00:25:37,746 --> 00:25:39,122 That's what he called himself, 484 00:25:39,205 --> 00:25:42,417 because he said the demon told him to do it. 485 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:44,127 David: I had nothing against these victims. 486 00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:46,254 Who were these people to me? 487 00:25:46,338 --> 00:25:50,008 They were just people. I wasn't angry against them. 488 00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:51,801 Interviewer: Then why'd you do it? 489 00:25:51,885 --> 00:25:53,345 Well, Sam did it through me. 490 00:25:53,470 --> 00:25:54,929 He used me. 491 00:25:55,013 --> 00:25:56,181 He made me go out there and do it. 492 00:25:56,264 --> 00:26:00,018 He -- I did it for him, for blood. 493 00:26:00,101 --> 00:26:01,603 Klausner: It was pure chance. 494 00:26:01,686 --> 00:26:04,147 It wasn't a calculated thing. 495 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:07,025 The demons would tell him, "Hey, this is the one. 496 00:26:07,108 --> 00:26:09,152 Do it." 497 00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:10,487 Heller: David clearly, 498 00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:13,114 at the time these crimes were committed, 499 00:26:13,198 --> 00:26:17,077 had a very reduced mental state. 500 00:26:17,202 --> 00:26:19,704 The best word I could use is delusional. 501 00:26:19,788 --> 00:26:23,875 He had delusions about everything around him. 502 00:26:23,958 --> 00:26:32,467 {\an8}♪♪ 503 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:40,684 {\an8}♪♪ 504 00:26:40,767 --> 00:26:44,979 Klausner: When the police got into his apartment, 505 00:26:45,063 --> 00:26:48,358 they found something they were not ready for. 506 00:26:50,235 --> 00:26:54,531 His apartment shows a tormented soul. 507 00:26:54,614 --> 00:26:57,784 {\an8}He kind of closed up his apartment 508 00:26:57,909 --> 00:27:01,621 {\an8}and put curtains over the windows 509 00:27:01,746 --> 00:27:04,165 and really isolated himself. 510 00:27:06,501 --> 00:27:09,921 Max: One entire wall of Berkowitz's apartment 511 00:27:10,046 --> 00:27:11,297 was covered in -- 512 00:27:11,423 --> 00:27:14,592 {\an8}I will use the word "bizarre" -- writings. 513 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:18,221 There were writings about Sam Carr. 514 00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:21,433 A lot of writings about Satan. 515 00:27:21,516 --> 00:27:23,101 There were the writings for the demons, 516 00:27:23,226 --> 00:27:25,895 where they lived, who they were. 517 00:27:25,979 --> 00:27:27,939 There was actually a hole in the wall. 518 00:27:28,064 --> 00:27:31,609 He said somebody lived in that hole. 519 00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:35,864 Hopkins: Sometimes he'd go home without finding anybody, 520 00:27:35,947 --> 00:27:37,782 and that depressed him. 521 00:27:37,907 --> 00:27:40,410 And then the hole in the wall would respond to say, 522 00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:43,121 {\an8}"Well, you have to go out and do this again." 523 00:27:46,958 --> 00:27:48,668 {\an8}Who does that? 524 00:27:51,796 --> 00:27:54,215 Reporter #3: Today, Berkowitz's 68-year-old father 525 00:27:54,299 --> 00:27:57,302 held an emotional news conference to try to explain, 526 00:27:57,385 --> 00:28:00,805 to try to reach out to those his son allegedly hurt. 527 00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:05,352 {\an8}I will live with this heartache for the rest of my life. 528 00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:24,162 {\an8}♪♪ 529 00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:33,338 {\an8}♪♪ 530 00:28:33,421 --> 00:28:40,220 {\an8}♪♪ 531 00:28:40,345 --> 00:28:46,893 {\an8}♪♪ 532 00:28:47,018 --> 00:28:49,688 {\an8}Reporter 4: Berkowitz was brought to court 533 00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:51,231 {\an8}in an 8-vehicle motorcade. 534 00:28:51,356 --> 00:28:55,735 {\an8}David and I went to the Supreme Court in Kings County, 535 00:28:55,819 --> 00:28:59,239 where an arraignment was conducted. 536 00:28:59,364 --> 00:29:01,241 There must have been literally over 537 00:29:01,366 --> 00:29:05,078 3,000 media people from all over the world. 538 00:29:06,871 --> 00:29:10,333 {\an8}Would there be a trial? Would he be set free? 539 00:29:10,417 --> 00:29:12,919 There were 101 questions. 540 00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:20,260 Heller: What surprised me was how calm he was. 541 00:29:20,385 --> 00:29:22,804 Usually people are very erratic. 542 00:29:22,929 --> 00:29:25,598 They can become violent at times. 543 00:29:25,682 --> 00:29:30,520 But he was very friendly, very cordial, 544 00:29:30,603 --> 00:29:33,106 and at that point, very contrite. 545 00:29:33,189 --> 00:29:39,612 I found him to be very, very bright, very perceptive, 546 00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:41,614 actually brilliant. 547 00:29:41,740 --> 00:29:47,996 I guess there's a very thin line between insanity and genius. 548 00:29:50,623 --> 00:29:53,084 {\an8}First order of business then became determining 549 00:29:53,168 --> 00:29:57,255 {\an8}whether or not he was competent to stand trial. 550 00:29:57,339 --> 00:30:01,009 {\an8}I felt for sure they would just put him in a nuthouse 551 00:30:01,134 --> 00:30:02,635 {\an8}and that'd be the end of it. 552 00:30:02,719 --> 00:30:06,181 Max: It was clear from the letters that he had written 553 00:30:06,306 --> 00:30:08,767 that he had a disordered mind. 554 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:13,355 Under the law, a person who is legally incompetent 555 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,815 cannot be tried. 556 00:30:17,859 --> 00:30:22,405 {\an8}Eventually, he has to go in for evaluation, which he did. 557 00:30:22,489 --> 00:30:26,868 Max: The outward appearance of Mr. Berkowitz was normal. 558 00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:30,163 And in responding to the psychiatrists, 559 00:30:30,246 --> 00:30:36,002 for the most part, he sounded, I'll use the word "rational." 560 00:30:37,504 --> 00:30:43,176 However, when questioned about the killings and about why, 561 00:30:43,259 --> 00:30:46,554 what he was articulating was what those first doctors 562 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,058 called a fixed delusional structure. 563 00:30:50,183 --> 00:30:53,478 "I did this because the demons on Earth, 564 00:30:53,561 --> 00:30:55,897 speaking through Sam Carr's dog, 565 00:30:56,022 --> 00:30:58,483 were telling me they needed blood." 566 00:31:00,610 --> 00:31:04,030 That was how he articulated to the doctors 567 00:31:04,155 --> 00:31:05,782 why he killed. 568 00:31:05,865 --> 00:31:08,368 Reporter #5: Their opinion, that Berkowitz is not competent 569 00:31:08,451 --> 00:31:11,371 to help his lawyers or understand the proceedings, 570 00:31:11,454 --> 00:31:14,666 not competent to stand trial. 571 00:31:14,749 --> 00:31:17,002 Max: Reality was, there was no way, 572 00:31:17,085 --> 00:31:21,006 given the intense pressures on the district attorneys, 573 00:31:21,089 --> 00:31:24,342 the terror that the city had suffered, 574 00:31:24,426 --> 00:31:26,678 that a finding of incompetence 575 00:31:26,761 --> 00:31:31,391 was going to be acceptable to the powers that be. 576 00:31:31,474 --> 00:31:33,643 {\an8}He simply killed too many people, 577 00:31:33,727 --> 00:31:35,395 {\an8}and they couldn't let that go by. 578 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,730 If you spoke to him for 30 seconds, 579 00:31:36,855 --> 00:31:38,189 you could see he was crazy, 580 00:31:38,273 --> 00:31:39,983 but there were too many dead bodies around, 581 00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:41,985 and somebody had to account for them. 582 00:31:42,068 --> 00:31:45,071 {\an8}So they put another psychiatrist in. 583 00:31:45,155 --> 00:31:48,783 Max: Brooklyn D.A.'s office hired Dr. David Abrahamsen. 584 00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:51,911 Abrahamsen says, "Well, look at the way 585 00:31:51,995 --> 00:31:55,582 in which he is able to talk to us about everything." 586 00:31:55,707 --> 00:31:57,584 Collarini-Schlossberg: This was someone 587 00:31:57,667 --> 00:31:59,336 who knew what he was doing. 588 00:31:59,419 --> 00:32:03,590 {\an8}He was smart enough to come up with a psychological discussion 589 00:32:03,715 --> 00:32:07,886 {\an8}to explain away his crimes by making us think 590 00:32:07,969 --> 00:32:12,724 that he was some kind of mentally ill psychotic person. 591 00:32:12,807 --> 00:32:14,893 But one of the things that we know about people 592 00:32:14,976 --> 00:32:18,897 who commit an offense like this is you can't be a madman 593 00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:22,317 and do the kind of planning and execution 594 00:32:22,442 --> 00:32:24,402 that a man like this did. 595 00:32:24,486 --> 00:32:28,656 Max: Abrahamsen said Berkowitz was not lacking in capacity. 596 00:32:28,782 --> 00:32:30,950 He thought that he was actually malingering. 597 00:32:31,034 --> 00:32:32,619 "He can control his actions, 598 00:32:32,744 --> 00:32:34,120 because he tells me that on occasion, 599 00:32:34,245 --> 00:32:37,123 he would go out and would not kill." 600 00:32:37,248 --> 00:32:39,459 And on the basis of that, 601 00:32:39,584 --> 00:32:42,962 David was found competent to stand trial. 602 00:32:46,299 --> 00:32:50,178 {\an8}He could have gone to trial and tried the insanity defense. 603 00:32:50,303 --> 00:32:53,306 {\an8}His lawyers believed that he should try to claim it. 604 00:32:53,390 --> 00:32:55,934 Max: But the next month or so, 605 00:32:56,017 --> 00:33:01,106 the doctors at the hospital allowed a minister to see him, 606 00:33:01,189 --> 00:33:05,568 and David has converted to Christianity. 607 00:33:05,652 --> 00:33:06,986 Well, what happened -- 608 00:33:07,112 --> 00:33:10,323 Berkowitz says, "I am going to plead guilty. 609 00:33:10,407 --> 00:33:13,118 I'm not going to use an insanity defense, 610 00:33:13,201 --> 00:33:17,163 because I'm going to be giving credence to these demons, 611 00:33:17,288 --> 00:33:20,125 and I can't do that, and Jesus has saved me." 612 00:33:20,208 --> 00:33:22,669 {\an8}I just wanted to end it, 613 00:33:22,752 --> 00:33:24,170 {\an8}and I was just so distraught. 614 00:33:24,254 --> 00:33:27,132 {\an8}I just confessed and pled guilty 615 00:33:27,215 --> 00:33:28,675 {\an8}and got it over with. 616 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,678 They consolidated all the cases, 617 00:33:31,803 --> 00:33:34,097 had him come in and enter a guilty plea. 618 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:37,976 Then it just became a matter of sentencing after that. 619 00:33:38,059 --> 00:33:46,443 {\an8}♪♪ 620 00:33:46,526 --> 00:33:48,820 Max: What ultimately happened with Berkowitz is, 621 00:33:48,903 --> 00:33:51,781 sentencing was set maybe 10 days later 622 00:33:51,865 --> 00:33:55,785 and a very disturbing scene occurred. 623 00:33:57,370 --> 00:33:59,122 Reporter #6: There was no hint of trouble to come 624 00:33:59,205 --> 00:34:02,542 as Berkowitz was driven to court in an armored van. 625 00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:05,795 But once inside, a struggle broke out on the 7th floor. 626 00:34:05,879 --> 00:34:08,006 Berkowitz said he didn't want to be sentenced. 627 00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:12,052 He kicked and bit some of five officers trying to move him. 628 00:34:12,177 --> 00:34:14,721 Two officers were hurt, but not seriously, 629 00:34:14,804 --> 00:34:17,807 before Berkowitz was finally subdued. 630 00:34:17,891 --> 00:34:19,726 In court, spectators waited. 631 00:34:19,809 --> 00:34:21,102 When Berkowitz was brought in, 632 00:34:21,227 --> 00:34:23,229 it was evident he was still agitated, 633 00:34:23,355 --> 00:34:25,106 wild-eyed in handcuffs. 634 00:34:25,231 --> 00:34:28,902 {\an8}And the moment he hits the center of the courtroom, 635 00:34:29,027 --> 00:34:30,570 {\an8}he starts to singsong chant. 636 00:34:30,695 --> 00:34:32,614 Reporter #6: Shouting repeatedly, 637 00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:36,242 "Stacy was a whore! I'd kill her again!" 638 00:34:36,326 --> 00:34:38,203 Kamen: It's one of the few times in my career 639 00:34:38,286 --> 00:34:42,082 I wanted to get up and attack a person who was speaking. 640 00:34:42,207 --> 00:34:43,917 Max: He had to be wrestled down 641 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,960 and dragged out of the courtroom. 642 00:34:46,086 --> 00:34:49,547 It was a very chilling scene, 643 00:34:49,631 --> 00:34:51,257 and I'm sure it was quite disturbing 644 00:34:51,383 --> 00:34:55,136 to the families of the victims, and the victims who were present 645 00:34:55,261 --> 00:34:59,265 to see the surface veneer of normal appearance disappear 646 00:34:59,391 --> 00:35:02,102 and be replaced by something scary. 647 00:35:02,227 --> 00:35:03,603 I believe that David Berkowitz 648 00:35:03,728 --> 00:35:07,190 was a profoundly disturbed human being. 649 00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:10,318 To me, his appearance in court just locked it in. 650 00:35:10,443 --> 00:35:13,446 This is a guy who killed because he hated women. 651 00:35:15,949 --> 00:35:20,495 Ultimately, he was sentenced to a number of sentences 652 00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:22,872 of 25 years to life. 653 00:35:22,956 --> 00:35:26,918 It's 25 to life for each of the 6 victims. 654 00:35:27,002 --> 00:35:30,046 The maximum for each of the crimes committed. 655 00:35:30,130 --> 00:35:32,507 Jordan: Plus additional time for attempted murders 656 00:35:32,632 --> 00:35:33,967 of his other victims. 657 00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:36,052 {\an8}I don't have a whole lot of hate and anger, 658 00:35:36,136 --> 00:35:38,054 {\an8}possibly because I'm still alive. 659 00:35:38,138 --> 00:35:40,306 {\an8}But I certainly don't -- I don't forgive him. 660 00:35:40,432 --> 00:35:43,351 {\an8}I would've liked more to have happened to him. 661 00:35:43,476 --> 00:35:45,520 {\an8}The electric chair, for instance. 662 00:35:45,645 --> 00:35:52,152 {\an8}♪♪ 663 00:35:54,654 --> 00:36:02,579 {\an8}♪♪ 664 00:36:02,662 --> 00:36:06,541 {\an8}When I first came to prison, I was very suicidal. 665 00:36:06,666 --> 00:36:09,002 And I was disgusted with my life. 666 00:36:09,127 --> 00:36:12,922 I was angry at a lot of people. 667 00:36:13,006 --> 00:36:14,758 I saw no hope. 668 00:36:16,801 --> 00:36:18,470 Can you tell us what happened to your neck? 669 00:36:18,553 --> 00:36:20,513 Uh... It's so obvious. 670 00:36:20,638 --> 00:36:23,016 That's a nasty scar. Yeah. 671 00:36:23,141 --> 00:36:26,353 In 1979, another inmate -- 672 00:36:26,436 --> 00:36:28,730 I guess to make a name for himself -- 673 00:36:28,855 --> 00:36:31,441 tried to take my life. 674 00:36:31,524 --> 00:36:35,362 And he stuck me when I wasn't looking with a razor 675 00:36:35,445 --> 00:36:37,781 and opened up the whole side of my neck. 676 00:36:37,864 --> 00:36:43,661 {\an8}♪♪ 677 00:36:43,745 --> 00:36:49,334 {\an8}♪♪ 678 00:36:49,417 --> 00:36:53,421 {\an8}David admitted that he was a fraud. 679 00:36:53,546 --> 00:36:55,340 {\an8}Jordan: He said he made the whole thing up, 680 00:36:55,423 --> 00:36:57,092 {\an8}that he was just lying and malingering 681 00:36:57,217 --> 00:36:58,468 {\an8}with that "Son of Sam" 682 00:36:58,551 --> 00:37:00,929 {\an8}and the barking dog telling him to kill. 683 00:37:01,054 --> 00:37:03,890 That he knew what he was doing and he knew that it was wrong. 684 00:37:03,973 --> 00:37:07,227 Collarini-Schlossberg: And that his effort to look like 685 00:37:07,352 --> 00:37:09,312 a psychologically deranged person 686 00:37:09,396 --> 00:37:10,563 was part of his facade 687 00:37:10,689 --> 00:37:13,900 to excuse the behaviors that he did. 688 00:37:16,277 --> 00:37:19,406 This was not the demons in his head. 689 00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:25,370 This was his own psychological disturbance. 690 00:37:27,664 --> 00:37:30,166 Later, he would insist that he did not act alone, 691 00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:33,712 that he was actually acting on behest of a satanic cult 692 00:37:33,795 --> 00:37:35,422 and they forced him to do these things 693 00:37:35,505 --> 00:37:37,924 and there were other people who conspired with him 694 00:37:38,008 --> 00:37:39,551 and were part of the shootings. 695 00:37:39,634 --> 00:37:42,262 You were sort of satanically involved? 696 00:37:42,387 --> 00:37:43,513 Yes, I was. 697 00:37:43,596 --> 00:37:45,724 {\an8}It was the worst mistake of my life. 698 00:37:45,807 --> 00:37:49,394 I was lonely. I was looking for companionship. 699 00:37:49,477 --> 00:37:52,397 There's never been any evidence to support 700 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,482 that there were other people involved. 701 00:37:54,607 --> 00:38:00,196 He'll say at the moment what he feels people want to hear. 702 00:38:03,450 --> 00:38:04,784 What kind of work do you do? 703 00:38:04,868 --> 00:38:08,413 I work in the mental health unit. 704 00:38:08,496 --> 00:38:11,249 And I'm there as, like, a peer counselor 705 00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:14,294 for the men that have emotional problems. 706 00:38:14,377 --> 00:38:16,421 Do you get psychiatric counseling? 707 00:38:16,504 --> 00:38:18,256 No, I don't. No. 708 00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:19,883 The Department of Corrections has given me 709 00:38:19,966 --> 00:38:23,887 a clean bill of health. 710 00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:25,805 After spending time in prison, 711 00:38:25,930 --> 00:38:30,060 David became pretty much a born-again Christian. 712 00:38:30,143 --> 00:38:35,857 {\an8}During his time in jail, an inmate befriended David 713 00:38:35,982 --> 00:38:39,944 and he started to introduce him to the Bible. 714 00:38:41,821 --> 00:38:44,157 David: Prison is not easy, but over the years, 715 00:38:44,282 --> 00:38:45,825 God has given me a lot of strength 716 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:49,829 and a lot of hope to make it and to endure and to survive. 717 00:38:49,954 --> 00:38:52,707 Glassman: He even changed his nickname and his whole image 718 00:38:52,832 --> 00:38:55,335 {\an8}to the Son of Hope instead of the Son of Sam. 719 00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:57,462 I feel that God has completely forgiven me, 720 00:38:57,545 --> 00:39:00,715 and he's taught me how to forgive myself. 721 00:39:03,343 --> 00:39:07,013 Have you ever had to deal with relatives 722 00:39:07,097 --> 00:39:08,264 of the victims directly? 723 00:39:08,348 --> 00:39:11,309 What would you say? 724 00:39:11,393 --> 00:39:12,686 That I'm sorry. 725 00:39:12,811 --> 00:39:14,187 {\an8}Neysa, I understand he -- this guy Berkowitz -- 726 00:39:14,312 --> 00:39:15,480 {\an8}actually sends -- 727 00:39:15,563 --> 00:39:17,273 {\an8}has sent you a card on Mother's Day? 728 00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:18,608 He has written you letters. 729 00:39:18,692 --> 00:39:20,193 I have many letters from him. 730 00:39:20,318 --> 00:39:21,528 Do you believe he's a changed man? 731 00:39:21,611 --> 00:39:23,780 I mean, he says he's found God in prison. 732 00:39:23,863 --> 00:39:25,657 Do you think that's some sort of bid, 733 00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:27,951 maybe holding out hope that he might get parole someday? 734 00:39:28,034 --> 00:39:32,205 {\an8}No, he makes me feel like stone inside of me. 735 00:39:32,288 --> 00:39:34,040 {\an8}He's an animal. 736 00:39:34,165 --> 00:39:35,250 King: You're gonna be here 737 00:39:35,375 --> 00:39:36,376 the rest of your life, right? 738 00:39:36,459 --> 00:39:37,627 David: That's right. 739 00:39:37,711 --> 00:39:39,421 I'm doing consecutive life sentences 740 00:39:39,546 --> 00:39:41,840 totaling more than 300 years. 741 00:39:41,923 --> 00:39:43,633 What do you do with something like that? 742 00:39:43,717 --> 00:39:45,468 Larry, believe it or not, 743 00:39:45,552 --> 00:39:47,929 I have learned to just be content and accept the fact. 744 00:39:48,054 --> 00:39:52,642 Klausner: He comes up every two years for parole 745 00:39:52,726 --> 00:39:55,895 and doesn't even ask for a hearing now. 746 00:39:55,979 --> 00:39:59,941 Heller: When I spoke to David and discussed the legal approach 747 00:40:00,066 --> 00:40:03,361 that we could take to get him released, 748 00:40:03,445 --> 00:40:07,490 he basically said to me, "I'm okay. 749 00:40:07,574 --> 00:40:10,744 I've already been freed by a greater spirit." 750 00:40:13,747 --> 00:40:20,211 {\an8}I don't want to sound harsh, but they all suddenly find God 751 00:40:20,295 --> 00:40:22,422 {\an8}and, "Now I'm a changed person." 752 00:40:22,547 --> 00:40:24,799 {\an8}Some of them may have. I don't believe he did. 753 00:40:24,924 --> 00:40:27,927 {\an8}I would love to think that he's suffering 754 00:40:28,011 --> 00:40:31,056 {\an8}every minute of his time there. 755 00:40:31,139 --> 00:40:35,935 {\an8}But I also think he should have been eradicated. 756 00:40:36,019 --> 00:40:40,690 {\an8}You notice, every interview of that son of a gun -- 757 00:40:40,774 --> 00:40:42,734 {\an8}Never mentions the killings. 758 00:40:42,817 --> 00:40:47,280 All he talks about is, "I've changed, I help others." 759 00:40:47,405 --> 00:40:49,699 He doesn't talk about the dead. 760 00:40:49,783 --> 00:40:52,285 He should die right where he is. 761 00:40:52,410 --> 00:40:56,081 That's a terrible thing to say, but that's how I feel about him. 762 00:41:10,428 --> 00:41:18,144 {\an8}♪♪ 763 00:41:18,228 --> 00:41:21,731 Interestingly, one other thing found in Berkowitz's apartment 764 00:41:21,815 --> 00:41:25,735 was a journal with detailed dates and times of fires -- 765 00:41:25,819 --> 00:41:29,322 {\an8}Fires that some people believe he set himself. 766 00:41:29,406 --> 00:41:31,866 {\an8}Was the serial killer also an arsonist? 767 00:41:31,991 --> 00:41:34,285 {\an8}It's one mystery that we may never know. 768 00:41:34,369 --> 00:41:38,373 {\an8}Oddly, over time, some people started to believe the "Sam" 769 00:41:38,498 --> 00:41:39,624 {\an8}in "Son of Sam" 770 00:41:39,708 --> 00:41:40,834 {\an8}was the name of the dog 771 00:41:40,917 --> 00:41:42,711 {\an8}that allegedly tormented Berkowitz 772 00:41:42,836 --> 00:41:44,754 {\an8}and gave him his murderous orders. 773 00:41:44,838 --> 00:41:47,674 {\an8}But it was actually the dog's owner, Sam, 774 00:41:47,799 --> 00:41:50,552 {\an8}that helped give the serial killer his moniker. 775 00:41:50,677 --> 00:41:52,137 {\an8}I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 776 00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:53,346 {\an8}Thanks for watching. 777 00:41:53,471 --> 00:41:55,515 {\an8}Good night. 61738

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