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They had the look. They had the power.
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They had put it all together. It was a
total package.
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The face paints, shoulder pads, and jack
to the sky. Man, they turned their
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asses up.
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I mean, they hit the ring like badass.
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We were two badasses trying to be
wrestlers. They were wrestlers trying to
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badasses. They were just like the guys
in Mad Max. I mean, they were meaner
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the guys in Mad Max.
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In the history of professional
wrestling, no duo has dominated the ring
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Hawk and Adam.
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The Road Warriors.
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When we go to Japan, they were like
Godzilla.
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You look at them and you win.
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Holy shit.
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I hope they don't kill me. They were
legitimate tough guys.
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They clawed their way to the top,
becoming one of wrestling's biggest
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attractions. But an unrelenting
lifestyle for one ultimately led to
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downfall.
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Partied hard, played hard, lived hard.
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That switch would flip after the bash
and bam!
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I woke up this morning!
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This is where I felt sick. It becomes a
way off as well as an escape.
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You'll feel like you want to be dead
when we're done with you.
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The road can eat you alive.
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At the age of 46, road warrior Hawk
unexpectedly passed away of a suspected
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heart attack. I literally cried like a
baby. I mean, that was my friend.
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I've been through hell and back with
this guy.
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The art of tag team wrestling engages
fans in a dynamic, far more complex way
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than one -on -one matches.
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The greatest tag team duos in history
share a sixth sense, operating as two
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halves of one whole.
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There's no one without the other.
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And no team proves that more than Mike
Hawk Eggstrand and Joe Animal Lorne
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Knight. In an era dominated by iconic
personalities.
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Just what exactly goes through the road
warriors' minds.
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Whose singles matches were the star
attraction.
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The road warriors would break the mold
as comic book heroes come to life. And
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post -apocalyptic warriors beyond the
realms of birth. The most important
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to us has always been beating people up.
Their larger than life personas
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propelled them to main event status
around the world.
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Winning titles wherever they went.
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But the price for success is often high.
And in this episode, we reveal the
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heavy cost paid by both men and how
their wrestling brotherhood met its
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heartbreaking end.
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I think tag team wrestling is the most
interesting part of the wrestling
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business. Tag team wrestling is an art.
It's a four -person athletic dance.
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A road warrior animal.
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What happened to the greatest tag team
ever in the history of professional
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wrestling? The Road Warriors.
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There's more of a story told with the
tag team than there is the single. You
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can't just put two guys together and
make them a tag.
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You have to have two guys that really
know each other.
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My name is Barry Darso. I was the repo
man in Demolition Smash.
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And I always thought we had incredible
matches with the Road Warriors. What
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the Road Warriors successful was there
were two guys that really clicked.
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Everybody believed that they could beat
anybody.
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and they looked incredible.
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I saw the it.
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These two have the it factor.
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Paul Ellivine, manager of the Road
Warriors for 20 -some years. The Road
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Warriors, it's a group that comes along
once in every generation, and they're
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always copied, never duplicated.
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Hawk and Animal are just two no
-nonsense badasses. Hawk was the off
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flyer guy, and Animal was like...
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The buck stopped here.
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Most teams had one big guy and one
little guy. Here you got two freaking
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monsters. They could do things in the
ring that prior to them big guys didn't
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do. I'm going to keep it full on.
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Not from Russia, although that's what I
portrayed for many years in the
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wrestling business.
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It was the chemistry of tag team.
Picking the guy up to the shoulder and
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off the top rope.
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The doomsday, you know.
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He flew off of the top turnbuckle, and
that was the ultimate finish in
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for decades.
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They knew what each other was thinking
all the time, but sometimes Animal knew
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more than Hawk as far as what was going
on.
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Joe was much more patient than Mike was.
Again, you hear some of the stories,
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right, of how Mike would snap in an
instant or fly off the handle.
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Oh, yeah, man, we got along instantly.
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I was like...
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18 years old, and I knew of Mike
Hegstrand, known as a loose cannon,
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In 1977, Mike Hegstrand and Joe
Laurinaitis are two kids growing up on
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streets of northeast Minneapolis, a
tough, working -class neighborhood.
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You know, I was at Jesse the Body of a
Tourist's Gym. I'm sitting there, and
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doing inclines.
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And I got like 315 pounds on the bar.
And all of a sudden, in the middle of my
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set, I get this whack on my chest. This
big, fat palm print. And he goes, Lord,
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you ain't right. You should be lifting
more weights than me.
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That was my meeting with Mike Eggstrand.
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It was a grade school photo of Mike, and
he was voted class bully.
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Yeah, you can see it there.
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I think that was staged.
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Mike's reputation in school was a
strapper. His idea of a good time was to
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beat up someone.
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Just stay away from him. He'll be a
great friend to you, but don't cross
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I'm Rich Hegstrand, Mike's older
brother.
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And I'm Dan Hegstrand. I was four years
younger than Mike. Mike was a lost soul
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as far as what am I going to do and
everything. And our mom had passed away.
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You can do it.
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But he obviously found his way, but it
was a bit of a road to get there. He was
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hyperactive. He didn't sit still. If he
was sitting still, his leg was bouncing
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up and down, and he had a lot of energy
to lift weights and punch people.
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The way we put it is I'm from the other
side of the tracks.
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And Hawk was pretty much the toughest
guy on his side of the tracks, and I was
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pretty much the toughest guy on my side
of the tracks.
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My name is Scott Norton. I'm a
professional wrestler from Minneapolis,
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Minnesota. I grew up with Mike
Angstrand, known as Hawk. He was going
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of, like, mark his territory in his
school. So he got a little brawl with a
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from South High School.
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Knocked his ass off. Got one with a guy
from North High School. Knocked him off.
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Went to West.
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Same thing.
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And he would condition himself.
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He would...
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Punch himself in the face, and I mean,
it wasn't just a, I don't even want to
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hit my hand that hard.
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Fractures between each one of his teeth,
you know, basically broke his face.
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Their hard -hitting lifestyle growing up
in northeast Minneapolis would serve as
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a training ground for their careers in
the ring, and their circle of friends
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soon expands to include a massively
talented roster of future superstars.
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Pretty interesting that in Minneapolis
was just a mecca of guys who ended up in
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the crazy, wacky world of professional
wrestling. Mr. Perfect Curt Henning, the
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Road Warriors, and John Nord, and Barry
Darso.
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Nikita Koloff, Rick Rude, Scott Norton,
too, right around the same time. We all
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knew of each other. We got closer as
Hawk would ask me to fill in working at
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this bar, Grandma B's, down in
Minneapolis.
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It's at one of Minneapolis' toughest
bars that Joe and Mike get a chance to
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their teeth.
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Paid the bills, and it was a perfect
outlet for him, I guess you might say.
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why was that?
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Just because he could beat up people and
get paid for it, you know. I mean, it
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was just like wrestling, so.
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I can't mention any names, but the guy
that used to own the bar we used to
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bounce at, he dealt in coke, and when
someone owed him a lot of money, they'd
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say, hey, man, you need to go have a
conversation with this guy.
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I remember one time, you know, Hawk had
one leg, I had the one leg of the guy,
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and we were hanging him over the
Franklin Avenue Bridge here in
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We said, listen, man, you need to
freaking pay up.
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At Grandma B's, there was a strip bar in
the afternoon, and then they'd always
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have wet T -shirt contests and
everything. So, I mean, it brought some
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worst of the worst guys.
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Every night, something happened.
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Lo and behold, the bartender was Ed
Sharkey.
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I mean, I knew a herd of Ed Sharkey
before. She wrestled for Bernie Gagne in
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AWA. And he comes up to us and he goes,
hey, we're going to do a wrestling
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school. You guys want to do it? And we
all did each other and said, ah, man, I
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don't know if I want to do that.
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And I'm thinking to myself, well, what
could it hurt?
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My name is Eddie Sharkey. I've been in
the wrestling business for, well, most
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my life.
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Starting on a carnival, I've been a
professional wrestler, referee,
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trainer. I've done just about
everything.
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Eddie ended up having a church in
northeast Minneapolis, and he had a
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ring.
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Eddie was the character. He'd sit down
there and he'd go, yeah, guys, good
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tackle, you know, good drop kick or
whatever.
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But Eddie really never got out of his
chair.
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Well, you know, if I would leave the
room or something, I'd say, now, don't
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a suplex. I mean, you know, you're going
to hurt yourself.
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And I'd walk out of the room for
whatever reason, and the one's got the
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in the air, and it's, oh, my goodness.
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Ed never showed us how to throw what
they call today a working punch.
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So we would literally back up and go.
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Bam! You know, and punch each other.
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He knows if he broke it, he'd bleed like
crazy.
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Eddie never really smartened us up on
exactly what was going on until after a
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while he says, you know, well, here's
what you do.
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Eddie soon realizes that this promising
crop of talent might have a future in
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the squared circle.
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Oli Anderson was a very, very good
wrestler.
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Another Minnesota guy.
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And he became a promoter. He worked for
Ted Turner, so he was the main guy. And
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he came up to Grandma B's.
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One night, some guy was misbehaving, and
I had to escort him out. Well, I had
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one hand behind his collar and one hand
on his belt loop, and I threw him
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through the front door.
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And we had this trip wire outside.
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And we used to gauge each other by how
many flips the guy could do around this
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wire. And when the guy gets done
flipping, he lands right on Ole
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shoes. And all I did was say, hey, how
you doing? And I turned around and went
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back in the bar.
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Next thing you know, Ole brings me down
to Atlanta.
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While Ole recruits Joe to work in his
Georgia territory, his future tag team
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partner has already been scouted by
another promotion.
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Mike started first for Al Tomko up in
Canada.
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Now, you men up there that are married
to some good -looking wife, you know
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your wife takes a look at this man,
she's going to go crazy.
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I went down for Ole Anderson as the road
warrior singularly by myself.
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I look like a giant version of the
village people.
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Now, keep in mind, when Joe broke into
the business, he had got his girlfriend
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pregnant, and Joe did the right thing.
And by that meaning, he got married
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because he wanted to, you know, raise
his child.
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You know, I was spending all my money on
making back home.
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I was wrestling nine times a week,
making $150 total.
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You know, I lost 50 pounds of body
weight. I said, I can't live off this.
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Mike's experience wasn't that great up
in Vancouver.
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So we both came back to Minnesota. I
actually could make more money on one
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-night bouncing than I was making
looking there in two weeks.
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Ole Anderson came back into the bar, and
Ed Sharkey showed him a picture that
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Mike had taken up in Vancouver.
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Ole thought it was a picture of me.
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Eddie Sharkey goes, no, that's not Joe,
that's Mike. And Ole goes, there's two
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of these guys?
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Joe and Mike, you're a tag team. Be in
Atlanta next week.
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You know, son of a bitch. Then all he
called me up and said, hey, I want to
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bring you guys in as the road warriors.
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From rough and tumble beginnings in the
Minneapolis bar scene, Joe and Mike are
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about to be catapulted into super
stardom and eventually towards their own
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undoing.
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In 1983, Joe Laurinaitis and Mike
Hagstrander recruited to wrestle in
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except this time as a tag team.
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They have no idea they're about to
revolutionize the world of wrestling.
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Hawk, thanks for spending a few moments
with us. What got you started in
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wrestling? I just started watching it
one time and I thought if they could, I
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could do it better. And first time we
appeared together on TV, you know, we
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both real green.
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And the Road Warriors moving up. The
start of the Road Warriors on TV was
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surreal for Hawk and I because it was
like, man, here's all these mega stars
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Georgia Championship Wrestling.
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There's Sergeant Slaughter, and there's
Tito Santana, and there's Dusty Rhodes,
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and I'm going, holy crap, there's some
major superstars here. And then here we
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are, now we're a part of this.
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Upon their arrival in the territory,
matchmaker Ole Anderson approaches his
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tag team with a bold new idea.
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They actually handed us the belts when
we got at the TV station.
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They say, here's your belt, here's your
belt, and we're going.
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Where do we say we want them? They say,
I say, well, you want them in a tag team
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tournament in Chicago.
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From Chicago.
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Well, he says, this is going to be the
new tag team, and they're Minnesota boys
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like you.
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Take care of them.
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The names, they both came up with
themselves.
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I think Ole pointed at him. He says, you
look like an animal.
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And then he said to Hawk, you look like,
I forget what he said, but Hawk says, I
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think I'm a hawk.
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So it became Animal and Hawk.
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After their very first match together,
newly crowned champions Hawk and Animal
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soon joined forces with Paul Ellering.
He acts as both their on - and off
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-screen manager, leading them to the big
leagues.
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So I just took them from that day one.
They jumped in my van, and that was it.
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Paul was great at...
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Fine -tuning us. You know, he said, go
with your raw strength. Go with what you
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do best.
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We used to sit there at Denny's, and
Paul would take the time to draw on a
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napkin. Animal, you're here.
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Hawk, you're here. Throw this guy into
this rope after you make the tag.
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Hawk, you drop down. Let's incorporate
that in. We had the motorcycle boots and
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everything, you know, and that's what we
wore down to the ring.
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After about a month, Oli goes, hey, we
got an idea for you guys.
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Remember the heel guy in the Road
Warrior movie that had the red mohawk
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feather in his ear? Well, we want you to
try and do something with the face
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paint. And that became an evolution
because the early face paint was, you
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like a black eye or something.
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But we were trying different things at
that time to try to get a painting of
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expressing the way we feel.
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And Mike Hextrand goes, hey, I got
another idea.
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What if...
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Animal shaves his hair into a mohawk to
look like the guy in the movie.
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I'll shave my head in a double mohawk so
when Animal bends over and I bend over
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and we plug our heads in, it looks like
one unit. How did the spiked shoulder
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pads kind of work its way into the fold?
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You know, that came from Animal. That
was his idea.
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And it was genius on his part.
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I had a friend of mine that worked for
Honeywell.
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He milled me some spikes.
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I said, listen, man, I need some six
-inch spikes. I want some four -inch
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spikes, some two -inch spikes.
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And I sat in my garage with my drill,
and I drilled holes in those shoulder
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pads, licking my thumb like frickin'
Picasso, right? Then I put some chains
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them, and that was the birth of the Road
Warrior shoulder pads.
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They put them on, and it was just
frosting on the cape.
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And, you know, the people just ate it
up.
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These poor guys they're working against,
I mean, they ran people over.
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I just apologized to them in the back,
sorry for what's going to happen to you,
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pal, but your ass is getting kicked.
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They were bad boys, but when they were
bad, they were very good.
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Man, as long as we stayed away from the
guys nuts so we didn't break their nose
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or anything, it was cool.
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But if you look back, man, some of those
clotheslines we hit guys with, guys
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were doing... Natural flip, we were
hitting him so hard.
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This cable was spreading across the
country.
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It was creating a revolution in the
wrestling business.
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Unlike other promotions in the early
1980s, Georgia's World Championship
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Wrestling enjoys a primetime spot on
Atlanta's TBS, the first superstation to
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broadcast across the entire USA.
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I told the guys, I think it was 84, I
said, we can work the whole world. We'll
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just make it our territory.
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Paul would book us in the AWA, or he
would book us for the Rougeauxs up in
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Canada, go to Puerto Rico for Carlos
Colon, and then go to the NWA. And, you
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know, we were going all over the world,
not tied to any one company.
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Paul's very instrumental in not letting
the promoters manipulate us. We were one
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of the few tag teams that were main
event every night in the arena.
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We never stayed any one place, and it
kept us fresh.
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And it was always good because they'd
bring us in, and the place would fill
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Everybody in the business recognized
that road warrior pop.
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Just loud.
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I've lost all my hearing.
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Even today, if someone gets a good cheer
going down the match, it's called the
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road warrior pop.
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At what point in your career did you
realize that you guys were getting huge?
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You know, first trip to Japan, we got
there, we get off the flight, we got to
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an interview. In this room was literally
150 photographers and reporters from
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all over the country of Japan.
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They said there was more reporters there
than when Michael Jackson came over to
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Japan. We will fight tonight!
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Like we will never fight before!
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Well, Japan wanted us, and the Japanese
people always like to be scared.
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You know, we're entertainers as well as
wrestlers.
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Hey, you guys hungry?
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You know, the Japanese responded to us
because we were so far ahead of our
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We were so nothing like the Japanese
wrestlers. We don't care who it is.
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going to stop everybody in the country.
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I mean, we wrestled some top guys, man.
You know, Killer Khan.
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When I pressed Killer Khan, Japanese
people were like, what kind of an eye?
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Like, I can't believe it.
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Killer Khan was 6 '3", 6 '4", 365
pounds.
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I front -slammed him over my head.
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Then I gorilla -slammed him down.
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It was national news.
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It was no secret that, you know, Mike
liked the party.
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Partied hard, ran hard.
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There was nothing he wasn't afraid of.
No situation bothered him.
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Mike got involved with these people. The
Japanese mafia over there, they would
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pick him up and he would go out there
and one of them the next, you know, he
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wouldn't see him for two days.
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He'd meet Japanese mafia over there and
he'd tell me about if you made a mistake
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over there, they just took a digit off
of your finger.
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And he'd come home with just stacks of
$100 bills, which he declared.
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I think Joe was more the guy that...
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Would rather, you know, go out to dinner
and go to the room and get some sleep
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so you can get up and have a great
workout the next day.
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Where Hawk, he was wild. He wanted to go
out to the bar. He wanted to do this.
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He had no shutoff valve to it, man. It
was just like, go 100 miles an hour all
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the time.
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That's when it started hitting a nerve
with me.
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By 1986.
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The Road Warriors have become one of the
top wrestling attractions in the world.
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To be that good in that many different
territories, it's unprecedented.
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My vision was, of course, to make money.
You know, for all of us, this is an
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opportunity that only comes along once
in a lifetime.
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Everybody out there, watch it!
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We'd like to kick your teeth in, too.
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My first reaction to seeing Mike and
everything was, wow, this is amazing.
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And it just took you by surprise at how
far he had come in such a short period
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of time, really.
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As their popularity grows, the
promotions booking the Road Warriors
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they're not just getting a run -of -the
-mill tag team.
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They're getting rising stars with a
guaranteed sellout crowd.
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The greatest thing about the Road
Warriors is that we never had to change
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were, whether we were babyface or heel.
I mean, we were stone -cold heels until
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we wrestled the Koloffs.
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Probably some of the best matches that I
remember are the Russian chain matches
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that we had against them. And now we're
getting USA cheers and cheers from the
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fans. We were over so bad as heels, it
made us great babyfaces. Your winners of
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the match, the Road Warriors. In early
1986, Carolina -based Jim Crockett
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Promotions approaches the Road Warriors
with an offer to headline their flagship
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event. Dusty Rose called us and said,
hey, we got this idea.
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A scaffold match.
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Had never been done on a national scale.
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Man, I was 310 pounds, 315 pounds, and
Hawkins was 70.
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Then you had both the men at Express up
there, they were over 200 pounds each.
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Three days before a scaffold match, Hawk
broke a small bone in the bottom part
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of his leg over in Tokyo.
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We were in the old school, the show must
go on. And he wrestled up there with a
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broken leg in a boot.
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You know, he didn't want to let the
people down because it was sold out and
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was a big, big deal.
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Well, what you see in a lot of sports
and wrestling is no different is there's
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injuries and there's pain.
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You just self -medicate after a while.
You don't even go to a doctor. And then
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it becomes a vicious cycle.
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And that's probably where Hawk was at
that time.
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So when and what signs did you start
noticing when Hawk's lifestyle out of
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ring was kind of getting a little out of
hand? It started getting bad.
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The latter part of NWA, WCW run before
we went to WWF.
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The drinking's a no -brainer. I mean,
that's, you know, Hawk was a straight
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vodka on the rocks guy.
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The muscle relaxers were a big part. I
would say 85 % of the guys that died
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early in the wrestling business, the
common denominator was the muscle
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I think Joe was very disappointed in
Hawk, and he didn't let that out so
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knew it.
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But knowing Joe, I could see that.
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I think it's just like any marriage, you
know, which it kind of was, that I
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don't think they always, you know, saw
eye to eye on everything. So I think
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there was, you know, some friction there
at times. It wasn't until we really got
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into WWF years where it really started
to get bad.
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The Road Warriors have conquered the
wrestling world with one big exception.
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and the pressures of performing in the
WWF will soon set the stage for their
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downfall.
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WWF was always on our screen. It looked
like they were the place to go in this
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wrestling war, if you want to be on the
winning side, and we did.
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You're going to feel the pain by the
hands of the Legion of Doom.
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Vince had just hired the modern -day
warrior, Kerry Von Erich.
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You already had the ultimate warrior.
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And he says, hey, I know you guys have
been the road warriors. Can you think of
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a different name that we could use to
call you guys?
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I said, how about the Legion of Doom?
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Oh, that's great. I love the Legion of
Doom. Let's call you guys the Legion of
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Doom. It was actually He -Man, the most
powerful man in the universe.
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And Hawk would watch that all the time.
He always watched He -Man.
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This was Hawk.
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Back at the Legion of Doom.
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And then he'd just start to make up
stories. And this is while we're driving
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the car.
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And he'd just start to make up that we
were the Legion of Doom.
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The WWF on the road was a grind.
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And you were busy 14 days on, 4 days
off. All year long.
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So it's like your whole life is no
sleep.
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But when you get in a ring, then all of
a sudden you get an injury.
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Well... Now there's no sleep. You have
to train. That injury doesn't go away,
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and you have to perform.
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So now all of a sudden you take a pain
pill. Pretty soon you're drinking,
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taking pain pills, you're taking this,
you're taking that. That's kind of the
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cycle that a lot of guys got into.
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But now Hawk's downward spiral is about
to intersect with the Road Warriors'
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historic climb to the top and in front
of a record -setting crowd.
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To the non -wrestling fan, I wrestled
for many years in the WWF. The Godfather
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is probably what I'm most well -known
for.
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All right.
422
00:26:06,990 --> 00:26:11,550
So, we're in this club, and then all of
a sudden, for some reason, Vince decides
423
00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:13,930
to take everybody's finish.
424
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:17,150
In the Road Warriors case, it hurt
people.
425
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:18,770
Have you seen their finish?
426
00:26:19,030 --> 00:26:20,710
I wouldn't take it in the ring.
427
00:26:21,390 --> 00:26:23,810
And Vince took that finish in the club.
428
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:30,660
The CEO of this big company is taking
people's finishes in a
429
00:26:30,660 --> 00:26:31,720
titty bar?
430
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:39,060
I was like... Just as the road warriors
are reaching new heights
431
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:45,260
at Vince McMahon's WWF, Hawk's substance
abuse was becoming harder and harder to
432
00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:49,630
hide. That's when we were starting to
get in the age of doing the pay -per
433
00:26:49,630 --> 00:26:53,950
-views now, and now we're doing the big,
huge events and everything else. So
434
00:26:53,950 --> 00:26:58,230
there was a lot of respect and a lot of
pride in what you did for your work
435
00:26:58,230 --> 00:27:01,650
because you wanted to be that guy that
was going to be top dog in that pay -per
436
00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:06,310
-view. Those WWF years is when it
started getting real kind of nasty. He
437
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:09,270
fail a drug test, and then there would
be three months off.
438
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:12,670
And, of course, me being a tag team
partner, I'd take three months off with
439
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:19,140
But Mike, again, he wasn't shy about
hiding anything, whether it was his
440
00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:25,280
drinking or his drug use or his steroid
use. He was pretty outspoken about all
441
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,019
of it.
442
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:32,120
As Hawk drifts closer to the edge, over
80 ,000 fans await their match at
443
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:36,720
London's Wembley Stadium, and things are
about to come to a head.
444
00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:38,940
Wembley Stadium was a...
445
00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:44,130
Classic event because they had 90 ,000
people there. We were supposed to
446
00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:46,410
for the tag team championships in
Wembley Stadium.
447
00:27:46,690 --> 00:27:51,130
And getting ready to go out to the show.
And we're doing a run through.
448
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:55,750
Vince McMahon's trying to tell us what
we're going to do. And I could just see
449
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:57,810
where Vince is fuming.
450
00:27:58,090 --> 00:28:03,950
Because every time Vince tried to say
something, I was going, Vince, I got
451
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:06,930
idea. Found out later there was things.
452
00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:11,720
called Plastidils, which is another kind
of little, like, a hallucinogenic drug
453
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,480
that Hawkeye took, and it lasted, like,
six hours.
454
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:18,500
Here we are, got to drive motorcycles
down to the ring. We went from semi
455
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:23,720
event match against the Natural
Disasters to wrestling Money
456
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,300
think, the first or second match.
457
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,680
As Animal watches his partner step into
the ring, it's clear that Hawkeye is in
458
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,920
no shape to perform.
459
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,920
Get in the ring and they wanted us to do
the finish, the doomsday off the top
460
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,520
rope. And I said, we can't do it. He's
going to fall off the top rope. And he
461
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,460
goes, no, no, we got it. I said, look at
him. He can't do it. They're watching
462
00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:48,260
him. And, you know, Hawk was kind of
like inebriated, you know, quite a bit.
463
00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:50,160
so we changed the finish.
464
00:28:50,570 --> 00:28:54,950
talks like right in the middle i kind of
push him out of the way and when hawk
465
00:28:54,950 --> 00:29:01,210
was on he was the best man nobody was
better but when he kind of was like that
466
00:29:01,210 --> 00:29:06,410
it kind of really i wasn't very happy
with him i knew there was a suspension
467
00:29:06,410 --> 00:29:10,510
coming on and i was freaking hot you
know and it's like we're gonna spend
468
00:29:10,510 --> 00:29:14,790
millions of dollars on tv and do all
this stuff for these guys now wembley
469
00:29:14,790 --> 00:29:18,610
biggest show ever if he came and messed
up right there
470
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,240
You're not the top guys anymore.
471
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,560
Irritated by Hawk's recklessness, Animal
chooses to go his separate way alone.
472
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:33,960
We went from that London taping to
Hershey, Pennsylvania to do TV.
473
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,680
And when we got to Hershey,
Pennsylvania, Paul Ehring and I are
474
00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:40,560
waiting for Hawk to do interviews. Well,
Hawk hadn't shown up yet.
475
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,260
Nobody knew where Hawk went.
476
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,359
What do you mean?
477
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,460
He's just not on the plane. Nobody knew
where Hawk was. Got a phone call, and
478
00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:48,460
Hawk called.
479
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:50,810
Vince, the secretary, says, hey, I quit.
480
00:29:51,450 --> 00:29:53,890
We're sitting there like, okay, now what
am I going to do?
481
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:59,270
Animal decides he's not going to chase
after his partner this time after
482
00:29:59,270 --> 00:30:02,810
performing the role of fixer for so many
years.
483
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:09,370
I think they just got the time to draw
the line in the sand and listen, man,
484
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:11,190
shit, I've had enough. That's it.
485
00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:12,590
Frick, I'm done with this.
486
00:30:12,790 --> 00:30:16,670
You know, Joe's... probably in a panic,
wondering how in the world are we going
487
00:30:16,670 --> 00:30:17,529
to solve this?
488
00:30:17,530 --> 00:30:20,050
You know, wrestling is your whole life.
That's all you have.
489
00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:23,610
Your family's at home, and you're with
the guys, and you finally get that push,
490
00:30:23,610 --> 00:30:28,410
and you can't have something be negative
to bring you back down, and that's what
491
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:29,229
was happening.
492
00:30:29,230 --> 00:30:33,190
Mike kind of, you know, the short fuse
and losing his temper, and whether it
493
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:37,150
with the promoter, could have a real
impact on Joe's career and even
494
00:30:37,150 --> 00:30:40,050
career, right? So I'm thinking to
myself, well, I'm going to be a
495
00:30:40,330 --> 00:30:42,390
and I'm going to serve out the date.
496
00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:47,680
that I had left with WWF to protect our
name in case we ever want to come back.
497
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,200
I said, man, I want to do these dates,
Mike, so we leave on good terms, right,
498
00:30:51,260 --> 00:30:56,800
to be businessmen. I put my foot down,
and Hawk was so out of his mind, he
499
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,220
called up a couple guys and ended up
working out his own deal in Japan.
500
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,260
Like, screw the team.
501
00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:05,780
He just went on his own, then we were
done.
502
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,880
Well, he took the gimmick over there and
had Kenshi Sasaki dressing up as the
503
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,460
power warrior and all spiked shoulder
pads and face paint.
504
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:19,320
I said, man, that's our gimmick.
505
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Hawk inadvertently leaves the future of
the world's biggest tag team in limbo by
506
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,300
replacing Animal and continuing the Road
Warriors brand in Japan.
507
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:44,020
In front of you lies the future and Tag
Team Wrestling, my new partner, Power
508
00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:47,600
Warrior. What are you doing, bro? I'm
not doing that here in the U .S.
509
00:31:47,860 --> 00:31:51,900
I'm not having anybody replace you. I'm
by myself.
510
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:55,840
I ended up doing a two -on -one match
and I herniated a couple discs.
511
00:31:56,420 --> 00:32:01,160
Animal got injured and, you know, there
were like two years there were. I didn't
512
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,900
do anything with wrestling anymore and I
didn't think I'd ever go back.
513
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:11,400
While Animal lies in wait, recovering
from his injury, Hawk presses on. But
514
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,920
without the guidance of his partner, he
spirals out of control.
515
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,960
Like three different times he'd been
rushed into an emergency room of drug
516
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,080
overdoses. He told me a head -on
collision with an 18 -wheeler and rolled
517
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,300
pickup truck six times with no seatbelt
on and walked away from it.
518
00:32:29,710 --> 00:32:34,790
You know, I don't know how many near
-death experiences Hawk had. I know he
519
00:32:34,790 --> 00:32:35,569
a few.
520
00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:40,750
When he got Hep C, it's like he got
slapped in the face. Like, wow.
521
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:45,430
He's not the first wrestler that had
contracted that. You know, guys in this
522
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:46,430
wrestling business, man.
523
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Used to do some crazy things, you know,
speedballing, mixing different drugs
524
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,960
together, different things like that,
where the old guys would share a needle
525
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,540
and just go, oh, god dang, you guys are
nuts.
526
00:32:57,860 --> 00:33:02,880
He was on the interferon, which is the
medicine you get for hep C. He freaking
527
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,580
cured himself of the hep C.
528
00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:09,060
But the worst part about it is the
doctor gave him the green light to go do
529
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:12,840
whatever he wanted to do. So he thought
that meant, okay, I guess I can keep
530
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,840
drinking and partying.
531
00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:21,220
Hawk's wild side shows no sign of
slowing down. But in 1997, a new
532
00:33:21,220 --> 00:33:26,720
opportunity arises from the WWF and it's
too tempting for either man to resist.
533
00:33:27,450 --> 00:33:32,830
Vince McMahon has been great to us, and
the WWF has been great to us. And
534
00:33:32,830 --> 00:33:35,770
they're a class organization, and we
only want to associate ourselves with
535
00:33:35,770 --> 00:33:36,770
class organization.
536
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:40,050
I knew eventually that it would come
back to what was going to be the Road
537
00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:45,010
Warriors. We were so unique in the way
we did everything, and we were so unique
538
00:33:45,010 --> 00:33:48,310
as a tag team, and, like, nothing else
like it in the wrestling business.
539
00:33:48,910 --> 00:33:51,130
Animal and I have become so close.
540
00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:54,190
We're probably the only tag team that's
been around 14 years straight.
541
00:33:54,610 --> 00:33:56,070
We're pretty much a unit.
542
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,720
Their new contract comes with a strict
insurance policy, guaranteeing they will
543
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,720
make their matches.
544
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:09,420
But WWF introduces a third member to the
team, 29 -year -old ex -Denver Bronco,
545
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Darren Drozdov. They introduced Droz,
and he was going to be like the youngest
546
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,679
member of the Road Warriors.
547
00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:21,219
Actually, I remember when I first saw
them, you know, they've been icons
548
00:34:21,219 --> 00:34:23,280
forever. Hey, this is Droz.
549
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:25,620
You know, I'm one of the...
550
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,520
players they brought in for the Road
Warriors to work with and had a great
551
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,520
with them.
552
00:34:32,020 --> 00:34:37,500
While the WWF has enforced a contingency
plan, it also sees the Road Warriors'
553
00:34:37,739 --> 00:34:41,360
real -life problems as something it can
capitalize on.
554
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,639
Vince McMahon came to us and said, hey,
we want to do this angle with you guys.
555
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:47,668
We're Hawks.
556
00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:50,870
We're going to portray him as drunk and
having habits on TV.
557
00:34:51,130 --> 00:34:54,110
I don't know if he's inebriated. The
referee's not going to start this match,
558
00:34:54,110 --> 00:34:56,449
he? Yeah, he'd come out, like,
staggering around.
559
00:34:56,770 --> 00:34:59,310
You know, they were saying I was trying
to separate them.
560
00:35:00,150 --> 00:35:05,050
We don't need him. You know, he's messed
up again, so...
561
00:35:05,050 --> 00:35:07,890
Yeah,
562
00:35:09,010 --> 00:35:10,190
it was heartbreaking.
563
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:16,490
But that's wrestling. They take the
dominant part of your personality and...
564
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,320
They just make it bigger.
565
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,780
You know, it's kind of tough. It's like,
you know, they're doing this, but he
566
00:35:22,780 --> 00:35:26,240
had been through it, and he didn't have
a problem with it. They wanted Hawk to
567
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:30,560
climb to Titantron, and they wanted me
to, you know, they wanted me to portray,
568
00:35:30,740 --> 00:35:33,420
like, hey, Hawk, don't jump type of
thing.
569
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:39,860
Hawk, I wish I could say I know how you
feel, but I can't, but I care about your
570
00:35:39,860 --> 00:35:43,780
life. Droz did a deal where they made
up, made pretend he was going to go up
571
00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:45,180
Titantron and help Hawk.
572
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,880
And Hawk had all his demons and
everything else, and he was drunk up
573
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,580
when he really wanted to go grab him, he
really went and pushed him.
574
00:35:54,020 --> 00:36:00,760
You know, to be honest with you, I
didn't really have it in me to want to
575
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,700
angle that was too close to what was
going on in real life.
576
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,540
And that bothered me.
577
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,720
The angle is not only unpopular with
Hawk and Animal, but with the fans as
578
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,600
And once again, the Road Warriors...
579
00:36:14,830 --> 00:36:17,690
make the choice to hit the road on their
own terms.
580
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:23,370
We're a wrestling Australia, and you got
the beach, you got drinks, you can buy
581
00:36:23,370 --> 00:36:27,730
Xanax over the counter, and so it's just
not a good mix.
582
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:32,730
Rumor had it that three or four of the
guys, and Hawk was one of them, had
583
00:36:32,730 --> 00:36:35,370
gotten a hold of some...
584
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:37,670
Party essentials, let's just say.
585
00:36:38,090 --> 00:36:40,370
And they were pretty much up for two
days.
586
00:36:40,810 --> 00:36:44,990
So when you're doing the coke and you're
doing the muscle relaxer, you're going,
587
00:36:45,110 --> 00:36:47,790
yo, yo, yo, like a yo -yo.
588
00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:52,970
Your heart can't take that all the time.
And as I'm looking around the arena by
589
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:55,770
the entrance area there, I see this big
crowd of people.
590
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:59,410
I don't think to myself, well, somebody
just came back from the last match and
591
00:36:59,410 --> 00:37:02,930
is laying down. And I push everybody
aside, and it's freaking Hawk.
592
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:06,130
And they're putting the oxygen mask on.
I said, whoa, whoa, what are you doing?
593
00:37:06,670 --> 00:37:09,510
I said, well, you've got to go out and
wrestle. They said, man, he can't
594
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:12,950
wrestle. He goes, this guy's about ready
to stroke out. And they took him to the
595
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:16,950
hospital. Hawk had cardiomyopathy. His
heart was about ready to blow up.
596
00:37:18,030 --> 00:37:22,350
And he calls me up and he says, animal,
you've got to come get me. I said,
597
00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:23,370
what's going on, man?
598
00:37:23,530 --> 00:37:26,250
He goes, I am not dying in this freaking
country.
599
00:37:26,819 --> 00:37:30,840
Hawk and I were literally, when we were
on the road, we were brothers. It was a
600
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:37,820
hard situation because there was such a
love of the guy, but the hate of
601
00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:38,820
what was going on.
602
00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:43,960
So I went, picked Hawk up, checked him
out of the hospital against doctor's
603
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,760
orders, and from Sydney all the way to L
.A. And I said, from L .A., he was
604
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,580
going back to Tampa. I said, you're on
your own now.
605
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,240
When it seems Hawk and Animal's run as
wrestling's most dominant tag team is
606
00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:02,320
about to come to an end, an unlikely
event brings them back together in a way
607
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,640
nobody expects.
608
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,020
Animal is faced with no choice but to
strike out on his own when Hawk's drug
609
00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,860
affliction threatens to ruin both of
their careers.
610
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,700
I had just gotten home off the road. Got
done working out at the gym.
611
00:38:21,210 --> 00:38:25,450
And there were six 300 -pound guys
called the Christian Power Team. They
612
00:38:25,450 --> 00:38:26,109
this event.
613
00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:28,450
So I went to it. I was pretty impressed
by it.
614
00:38:28,690 --> 00:38:30,590
Eventually, Joe shared that story with
me.
615
00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:33,890
And I said, man, why don't you come out
to this conference in Phoenix?
616
00:38:34,110 --> 00:38:36,110
Come on out. He goes, could Hawk come?
617
00:38:36,490 --> 00:38:37,490
They came to Phoenix.
618
00:38:38,030 --> 00:38:43,030
And I just remember Mike was the first
one to the altar and wanted to make a
619
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:47,070
decision to give his life to the Lord.
And that weekend, we actually even
620
00:38:47,070 --> 00:38:51,250
baptized him. We did a swimming pool. We
did a water baptism with him.
621
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:55,010
And from that point on, Hawk lived in a
good way.
622
00:38:55,330 --> 00:38:56,910
I think he found religion.
623
00:38:57,210 --> 00:39:00,290
And then he married a gal named Dale.
624
00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:04,850
And he was very happy with it. He was a
different person then.
625
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,820
with her. Now my motivation is different
than what it was when I first started
626
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:13,700
out. My motivation now is my family, my
fiancee, to make sure that if something
627
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:17,180
were to ever happen to me, she's not
going to be hurt. He used to say, cat
628
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:22,160
nine lives, but God gave me 10 so I can
give my life to Jesus. He was moving out
629
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,600
of his house off the beach.
630
00:39:24,229 --> 00:39:29,030
And he had just moved the last piece of
heavy furniture in the house for his
631
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:33,030
wife, Dale. And he said, Dale, I'm going
to go upstairs and lay down for a
632
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:34,030
little bit. I don't feel well.
633
00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:37,830
And I was out in my backyard, and all of
a sudden I get a phone call.
634
00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:41,490
A friend of mine, Bob Muller, he goes,
hey, have you talked to Mike?
635
00:39:41,870 --> 00:39:46,890
I said, yeah, man, I talked to him last
night. He goes, huh, have you talked to
636
00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:47,890
him yet today?
637
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:48,990
I said, no.
638
00:39:49,170 --> 00:39:51,030
He goes, Joe, Mike died.
639
00:39:52,330 --> 00:39:56,150
It was an early Sunday morning, October
the 19th, when the world of wrestling
640
00:39:56,150 --> 00:40:01,590
was saddened to hear that Michael
Hegstrand had passed away at the young
641
00:40:01,590 --> 00:40:06,750
46. And it wasn't that he OD'd or
whatever, you know, it's just that his
642
00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:07,750
just stopped.
643
00:40:08,050 --> 00:40:10,790
It was probably one of the hardest
things I ever had to go through.
644
00:40:11,050 --> 00:40:17,430
Well, it was, you know, I was just at
home and an animal calls me up and tells
645
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:20,050
me, you know, Hawk is gone.
646
00:40:23,010 --> 00:40:27,730
Joanie, my wife, I said, we got to get
the
647
00:40:27,730 --> 00:40:34,270
black van
648
00:40:34,270 --> 00:40:36,310
and drive to the funeral.
649
00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:42,210
The old black van that I took him to the
airport in, our first day together.
650
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:44,490
I still had that black van.
651
00:40:44,770 --> 00:40:50,850
Went to the Kmart and got cans of black
spray paint.
652
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,560
cover up all the rust.
653
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,100
And we got in the black van and drove
all the way to Tampa.
654
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,260
55 miles an hour.
655
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:04,880
Got passed by 10 ,000 cars.
656
00:41:05,780 --> 00:41:09,020
Do you remember some of the things that
he said, the eulogy?
657
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,020
Yeah, I remember.
658
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:18,040
Ah, October 19th, 2003.
659
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,580
The dark clouds covered the bright sun.
660
00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:28,720
Today we lost our friend.
661
00:41:30,580 --> 00:41:34,640
Our brother of planes, trains, and
automobiles.
662
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,720
Many miles.
663
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:45,720
If I could steal a line from the outlaw
Josie Wales.
664
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,980
Hawk, it is good that men like us.
665
00:41:51,090 --> 00:41:53,450
Met in the struggle of life.
666
00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:59,970
Hawk's death brings to an end a
partnership that has not been matched in
667
00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:00,970
wrestling ever since.
668
00:42:01,190 --> 00:42:03,870
He was unique both in and out of the
ring.
669
00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:09,350
A warrior, a partner, a friend, and a
brother.
670
00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:11,610
He wasn't Hawk.
671
00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:17,430
Yeah. I think that is a key point.
672
00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:19,270
He was still Mike.
673
00:42:20,730 --> 00:42:22,470
I never looked at him as a hawk.
674
00:42:22,850 --> 00:42:26,270
He really gave a shit about his friends.
675
00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:28,210
He just had your back.
676
00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:30,770
He probably knew I needed it.
677
00:42:34,490 --> 00:42:41,410
The biggest compliment that I can make
to Hawk is that everybody liked
678
00:42:41,410 --> 00:42:45,230
to be around him. So it was a huge void.
679
00:42:45,550 --> 00:42:49,180
And Animal would know a lot more about
that than me. Because they've been
680
00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:54,620
together and always thought of as a
twosome. Had a lot of things in common.
681
00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:58,660
mean, Jim worked hard. They were a great
tag team. They performed unbelievably
682
00:42:58,660 --> 00:42:59,658
in the ring.
683
00:42:59,660 --> 00:43:01,880
But, you know, totally different.
684
00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:03,220
They were brothers.
685
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:06,020
You know, brothers, they love each
other.
686
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,720
But they'll have a fight once in a
while.
687
00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:12,520
I mean, there were times we were at each
other's throat because we were together
688
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,299
so much.
689
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:17,180
But 99 .9 % of the time, we had a common
respect there.
690
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:21,950
It's over half my life, man. I was with
Hawks.
691
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:27,990
From being stars in Japan, to being
family members, to being brothers, to
692
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:30,890
everything else, you know, now what do I
do? Now he's gone.
693
00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:32,310
And that's the hardest thing.
694
00:43:32,750 --> 00:43:35,650
Well, I think what we really remember is
being a state team in professional
695
00:43:35,650 --> 00:43:40,690
wrestling. And I just like to go down as
one tough dude and one tough partner.
696
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:45,070
Hawks should be remembered as one of
the, one half of the greatest tag team
697
00:43:45,070 --> 00:43:45,959
ever.
698
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,600
He had one of the best punches in
wrestling, one of the best interviews
699
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,640
sure. Well, Hawk was definitely a
character.
700
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,260
To be honest with you, a part of the
wrestling business died when Hawk died.
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