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We heard through the grapevine

that Larry and Lori moved in together in Arizona.

Small town, a lot of talk.

He had a nice big house that they built.

He had the fancy cars.

He went on vacations to nice places.

You want me to take your glasses?

Yeah.

Lori got cash and she got trips.

Tell me that she wasn't in it for the money.

- Hey, babe. - Hey, hi.

Check out the frequent fliers and we're gonna take little trips.

Sounds good to me.

- Missed you before. - I don't know what happened.

I was over at Mastro's.

How was Mastro's?

It was good. I just had a Bloody Mary.

Attagirl. Good.

He cashed in his life insurance policy.

He was living high on the hog.

I knew he had a lot of money, but I didn't realize the extent of it.

I understand he had to have a two-floor trophy room.

What do you do for fun besides hunt and philander?

Larry seemed very relaxed.

We're gonna get a dog.

A little dog.

Not a care in the world. "I do what I want and no one can stop me."

I am told that Larry said he's running for the House of Representatives

of the United States,

which just demonstrates how delusional he was.

I think he thought he was untouchable.

I think you develop a level of unrealistic confidence.

The longer you get away with something,

the longer you think you've gotten away with it.

We were having fun.

I always loved the traveling.

We're going to Cabo.

We had been there before.

And we said, "This is so great. Why don't we come back and stay the holidays here?"

So, we go to the airport, we check in.

And then at the last minute, three people got on the plane.

And I said to Larry,

"I think that's FBI."

And, like, you could just feel

something bad was gonna happen.

He never dreamed that this would happen.

Never dreamed, not in a million years.

What do you want people to know about her?

Oh, God.

Um...

I'll never forget meeting her and seeing those green eyes,

that flaming red hair

and the smile on her face.

And just all the fun we had.

She was a... a wonderful woman.

She was deeply religious.

She loved her kids.

And, unfortunately, she loved her husband.

He's just evil right down to his toenails.

Yeah, I... I wouldn't put anything past him, anything.

Some of the people in Safari Club would call around

and try to figure out exactly what happened.

I mean, none of it makes sense.

We needed the FBI to get involved.

We received telephone calls

from multiple friends of Bianca Rudolph after her death.

There was some kind of rumor floating around

that she did commit suicide.

I don't think it was suicide. I would never believe that.

I've never had that feeling.

It's anticipated when someone dies under these circumstances

that you'll get phone calls, but often they lack a level of specificity.

I said, "You cannot possibly tell me

that you're going to Africa with this man."

She just said, "I have to."

Larry said she's old and used up.

He's been having an affair for 15 years.

In this case, we were hearing specific information

that they thought showed that there was something suspicious about this death.

Do you think Larry had anything to do with this?

You can get away with anything in Africa.

But four murder investigations conducted by FBI agents are extremely rare.

I got into the FBI to catch bad guys.

For three years, the case had got lost in the shuffle.

In 2019, I read what happened to Bianca.

And this was one of those cases where,

like, I felt inside that, like, this is what my job is for.

This is what I'm supposed to do.

What motivates me is the victims.

All of those victims have families that deserve answers.

I felt so bad for Bianca.

And I always, on a personal level, thought of her as... Like, this could be my mom.

And I just felt that, like, this needs to be addressed for her, to give her a voice.

Federal prosecutors don't prosecute murders very often.

That's because most murders are prosecuted by the state.

When I presented this case to the supervisor in Denver,

the expectations were low on it

because of the distance in time between 2016, 2019.

The fact that we didn't have a body because she was cremated in Zambia.

And we didn't have the murder weapon because he had broken it in pieces,

put it into a couple of different boxes,

and then gave it to somebody to dispose of.

The case gets to our desk,

and what we have is the case file from the Zambian police.

There were a number of factors

that indicated that this was not an accident,

and the weapon being unloaded the night before is just one of those.

There were reports that were issued

within the first three days following her death

that listed suicide as the manner of death.

But the acrobatics that she would have to put herself in to shoot herself that way

just didn't make sense to us.

So, we designed what we called a reach study, and we recruited female volunteers

who were approximately the same size and dimensions as Bianca Rudolph.

Out of the 50 different tests, one person was able to reach the trigger

because they have flexible shoulders from their time in gymnastics.

Bianca, I don't think was a gymnast.

Now we were talking about a question of was it directly on her chest

or was there a distance.

And the autopsy report said that Bianca Rudolph had a six-centimeter defect

directly to her heart.

So for that, we conducted what's called a pattern test.

We didn't have the original murder weapon, so we had to get the next best thing.

The same ammunition, the same gun case, and the same weapon.

And it wasn't until we moved back that we started seeing a defect

that was approximately six centimeters in diameter,

and based on those studies,

we determined that someone had fired the shotgun

at a distance of one, two, maybe three feet.

There was no way this was an accident. It was a homicide,

and the only person with a motive to commit homicide against Bianca Rudolph

was Lawrence Rudolph.

Early in the investigation,

we started looking at Larry Rudolph's financial activity.

We were subpoenaing bank accounts, the insurance companies,

telephone, emails.

We saw all the proceeds from all the life insurance policies,

and so we needed to talk to his life insurance guy.

He even tried to sell me life insurance when I interviewed him.

You know, I'm always trying to help people. I told you that.

We learned that Bianca Rudolph was apparently overinsured.

Nine different life insurance policies from seven different insurance companies.

For a total of $4.8 million.

Obviously that's gonna raise red flags.

I only knew about three policies, but he had found other agents

to write insurance on her unbeknownst to me.

It just blew my mind.

The FBI arranged a trip to come up to Zambia,

and my regional security officer sets up meetings with the police,

with all the actors.

They naturally ask why we want to investigate it.

When we came to hear the story,

that's how we started believing that he is a murderer.

He did it.

It was intentional

for him to come and kill the wife here

because, you know, it was in bush.

No one could be able to tell what had transpired.

And so as we talk to everybody,

everybody has one little piece of the puzzle.

There's numerous inconsistencies.

"I was in the bathroom showering.

I was in the bathroom on the toilet.

I was outside drinking coffee on the deck."

It tells me that Larry Rudolph was lying.

If I'm in the shower and I run out, I'm not gonna have any clothes on,

I'm gonna be dripping all over the place,

and I didn't see any mention of that whatsoever.

Talk to me about how and when you figured out

what had happened with the crocodile.

We think that Lawrence took the gun,

shot his own thumb in order to collect disability insurance.

When you look at that image,

you can see something that resembles gunpowder residue, or stippling.

That's where he learned that he could get away with something significant

and not get caught.

We felt like we knew how the murder happened,

but we needed to know why it happened.

And then, out of nowhere, we got a tip from someone.

In his statements,

he was saying that he overheard Lawrence tell Lori...

"I killed my fucking wife for you."

This is too good to be true to get this type of tip from someone.

Lori Milliron gives us another motive that he may have in killing Bianca Rudolph.

The FBI agent said, "You will be down here tomorrow to talk to us about this,"

and I was, like... ..."Crap."

I called the FBI thinking it was an anonymous phone call,

but we all know it's not.

Yeah, yeah, when you call the FBI with your phone number,

normally we can find out where you are.

Once I talked to the FBI,

everything started to be put in place about this person.

Lori gave him an ultimatum, and that ultimatum was to get rid of Bianca.

And looking back, it wasn't the divorce. It was an ultimatum to get rid of her,

of saying get rid of her, meaning killing her.

Lori Milliron was tired of being the other woman.

She was tired of being second fiddle.

She wanted to be the one doing all these adventures.

She wanted to be living in the big house.

This wasn't just any affair but a long-running affair.

We learned through the investigation that for many years of the affair,

Bianca Rudolph thought of Lori Milliron

as Lawrence Rudolph's very close business confidante.

But in the months and years leading up to the murder,

Bianca had discovered this affair with Lori Milliron.

When she discovered a hair clip in her bed that was not her hair clip,

she had confirmation of the nature of the relationship.

And according to this witness, it was devastating to Bianca.

We learned that Bianca had also given Lawrence Rudolph an ultimatum,

the opposite one.

She had given him an ultimatum that he had to fire Lori

or she was leaving.

He agreed that he would let Lori go.

She goes, you know,

"Everything's gonna be okay. He fired Lori."

And I'm, like, "Yeah, just so you know, he didn't fire Lori.

She's working from home."

He's not gonna be able to keep Lori Milliron as a mistress.

She wants more.

He's maybe not gonna be able to keep Bianca Rudolph as his wife,

because she wants him to stop.

And he's maybe going to have to go through a painful divorce

where he's gonna lose half of his money.

Larry Rudolph wouldn't divorce Bianca Rudolph

because he didn't want to risk losing a significant amount of money.

This sort of conflict comes to a head just before the murder,

and if Lawrence Rudolph wants to maintain his life,

he's going to need to take drastic action

to keep things the way he wants them to be.

We felt we could prove beyond a reasonable doubt

that Lawrence Rudolph murdered Bianca.

We're going to Cabo.

We decided we're gonna go there for the holidays.

And, uh, we were really looking forward to that.

We get to Cabo

and they announced that they're gonna check passports

as we exit the plane,

and I'm thinking, "They never do that. We've already given them our passports."

I got off first and I just kinda stood there

waiting for him to get off.

And there's five or six brown-shirted Mexican police standing there waiting,

and I'm like, "Oh, my God, what is going on?"

Larry showed them their passport.

And they said, "We got him."

And they... they just took him.

Deported him to Denver where, when he landed,

Donnie and I were there to make the arrest.

And seeing him in handcuffs is, you know, it's always, you know,

rewarding for us to see that.

Doctor Lawrence Rudolph is accused of murdering his wife in...

It's a case involving money, murder, and sexual affairs.

A former Pittsburgh...

Everybody called everybody else, and it's like, "He's been arrested."

We had a party.

Well, now he's being accused of murder.

How did I react?

I was happy.

I thought justice was being served.

A lot of people are just like, "Well, it's been a long time coming."

For a man that thought he was above the law and above anything,

now he's in cuffs. Blew me away. I felt safe.

Hello. This is a prepaid collect call from...

Larry.

Hello?

Hey, babe. Oh, my God. Where are you?

It's been difficult. To have it taken away like this.

It's freaking me out.

And I'm in with the Bloods and the Crips and--

Are you serious?

Fuck yeah, man. It's bad.

Oh. Sounds scary as hell.

I know. I miss our life. I miss everything we used to do.

Yeah, me too.

I miss you.

I miss you too.

Once we find out about Lori

and that she had given Lawrence an ultimatum,

of course that's gonna lead us down the route of... what is her involvement?

Does she know about the murder?

And what else has she helped him with, possibly?

Investigators determined that one of the first people Lawrence notifies

about Bianca's death in the United States is Lori Milliron.

Lori's seen driving Bianca's vehicle shortly thereafter.

She's living in Bianca's home. She's building a new house.

She gets all this access to everything that she wanted,

and she doesn't have to put up with Bianca anymore.

Larry and Lori could live publicly,

but they were living a lie.

They told people that they had recently met

and that this was a new relationship.

There was no evidence at that point in time

that she had actually helped to plan the murder.

But we knew that she knew Lawrence Rudolph had committed the crime

because Lawrence Rudolph yelled at her in a bar...

"I killed my fucking wife for you."

We wanted to talk to Lori Milliron,

and we went to Pittsburgh, knocked on the door.

We saw a car service pull up. The garage opened and Lori walked out,

and we found out that she had booked a ticket,

while we were outside, to go to Phoenix.

One of the other methods we have is that we can give her a subpoena

and compel her to testify in front of a grand jury.

They served me with a subpoena for that, uh, grand jury thing.

Okay, now remember, this is an open line.

Yeah, I know.

It says, "The grand jury is conducting an investigation

of possible violations of federal criminal law,

including mail, and"--

Yeah, don't-- Don't talk about it, honey.

They just started asking me questions. It was really frightening.

He had a graph showing the amount of deposits I made,

asking me why there was so much more money there.

Was that hush money?

She says she's getting this money because he's very generous.

That they don't show up to work together every morning.

That they're not having this sort of relationship.

They were really wanting me to portray him as a horrible person.

And I think it really made them angry that I didn't.

She lied in front of the grand jury and she was presented with the idea

that we were confident that she would be convicted

if she did not choose to cooperate.

And she chose not to cooperate.

The girlfriend of a former local dentist...

Larry's alleged mistress...

- His alleged mistress... - His mistress is facing charges too.

I just... I couldn't believe, like...

How is this happening to somebody that is such a good person?

Somebody that is innocent.

Um...

I'm still wrapping my head around that.

My mom was telling the truth.

She's 65 years old.

She's never had a prior arrest. She has no criminal history.

When I was laying in bed going to sleep,

just closing my eyes and trying to imagine the environment that she was in,

in that exact moment,

my heart broke, and I was terrified.

And all I could just think was, "Don't cry, be strong."

This call is from a federal prison.

This call is from...

Lawrence Rudolph.

I was a person that was completely law-abiding,

never had a traffic ticket.

Let alone having been involved in something

as heinous as what they accused me of.

In the federal system,

the odds are stacked against you.

I had to get the best attorneys.

We didn't wanna take any chances.

The government has every advantage in a criminal case.

It's like David versus Goliath.

David O. Marcus is one of South Florida's

big-time veteran criminal defense attorneys.

David Oscar Marcus.

A super high-profile criminal defense attorney.

I have to be honest, I-I thought the case was ridiculous.

I have no understanding of why these two agents picked up this file

which had dust on it.

Not only did the Zambians clear Larry and say it was an accident,

the life insurance companies cleared Larry and said it was an accident.

I thought this was a total bullshit case.

They don't have enough evidence, and I thought we were gonna win.

The trial for a Paradise Valley man

accused of killing his wife on safari is officially underway.

Federal prosecutors do not charge a case

unless they believe that they are going to be able to convince 12 people unanimously,

beyond a reasonable doubt, that the crime has been committed.

The judge said, "Larry's innocent

till you see the evidence that indicates he's not innocent."

I was thinking, we've got to have some solid evidence,

some solid proof that he truly did do this crime.

We told the jury, "You're gonna be faced with this incredible task

of ignoring stuff that does not matter."

I told the jury, "Don't make up your mind early

because, big reveal,

Larry Rudolph is gonna get on the stand."

The defense theory here was for every fact that we came up with

to come up with some equally plausible alternative.

First of all, the crime scene, if you can call it that,

was a total fucking mess.

Everything was moved. Nothing was kept proper.

They asked me, "Did you touch the gun?"

I said, "Yes."

Larry Rudolph,

he was looking like he was going to kill himself.

That's how I moved the gun.

There's reports that the body was taken outside immediately and covered up,

but then it was back inside.

So it's just a mess.

The guy who did the autopsy stuck a ruler in the wound and moved it around.

I mean, it was a joke.

Another aspect of this case is

Lawrence Rudolph moved very quickly to cremate the body

in a way that everyone found to be suspicious.

They made a big deal about this.

This was in their initial criminal complaint, which the media picks up on.

"Larry Rudolph cremates his wife before she comes back to the United States."

We know from speaking to Larry that Bianca had a will

where she wanted to be cremated.

The government's main pillar of evidence was all wrong.

They're shocked.

That did change that aspect of the case a little bit in that

that's a fact that we're not gonna focus on as much,

but there's so much other evidence.

The insurance thing, again, was a lot of noise.

They wanted a headline: "Five million of insurance.

Five million of insurance." They pounded it over and over again,

but when you actually dug into the numbers...

So what?

This was insurance that was accumulated over many years.

It's not like they did it a month before, uh, the trip to Zambia.

She went and got the medical exams that you need for life insurance.

She signed all the forms. She wanted this for her kids.

And this idea that he spent it on fancy things?

False. He didn't touch the life insurance money.

He put it in a trust. It just sat there.

Another headline-grabbing distraction,

but that's what's gonna sell to the jury, right? Affairs, greed, money.

That's not evidence of murder.

I thought, "This is some of the best lawyering I will ever see in my life."

Why is it relevant that he was in a fight with the Safari Club?

Why is it relevant that he was in a fight with employees at his business?

To a murder charge, it's not.

Larry's defense attorneys were extraordinarily polished.

He would raise his eyebrows

and would, you know, make eye contact with you.

We have the evidence, they wanted to focus on, "This doesn't look good."

This is a wild case.

We learned a whole lot more, including an alleged murder confession

at Steak 44 in Phoenix,

where Larry allegedly confessed that he killed his wife Bianca for Lori.

Brian Lovelace taking the stand

was one of the most dramatic moments of the trial.

We had talked about it in the opening statements

how the jury was going to hear about this confession.

It was the focus of the opening, it was the focus of the trial.

I walk into the courtroom, and the tension was just incredible.

He tells the jury he heard Lawrence Rudolph,

during a break in the music, say...

"I killed my fucking wife for you."

We found out about this, we were like, "Oh, my God."

Now it's true that he heard that. We didn't contest that.

But did he hear what was said right beforehand?

Um, well, he could have said anything before,

but I... I didn't hear the conversation.

This is what we were told by both Lori and Larry:

They were having a conversation

'cause they've just learned that the FBI was investigating,

and Larry said, "The FBI says I killed my effing wife for you."

What is the jury going to think about this?

Yeah, Steak 44 was a little mind-blowing.

I thought, "Okay, that's possible."

I wrote it down and I underlined it and I circled it.

After she took the stand,

there is potentially room for reasonable doubt

in the minds of the jury.

That wasn't part of the plan.

In an unexpected twist,

the judge says Dr. Larry Rudolph will not stand trial alone.

Rudolph's mistress, Lori Milliron, is also on trial.

She's accused of lying to a federal grand jury about this case

and her relationship with Rudolph.

We did not like the fact that she was in his indictment at all.

The optics of it were really bad.

What I care about most is, how is it gonna look to the jury?

And it looks bad when both the husband and the mistress are charged together.

And we told Lori, "You need to get a lawyer, you need to separate from us."

Lori hired John Dill.

If you need a trial lawyer, get the real "dill."

Tried to get her case separated from Larry's.

As a defense attorney, you'd rather be off on your own.

The charges against Lori were five different counts of perjury,

and because of those alleged false statements,

they charged her with obstruction of justice.

And also because of those statements,

charged her with accessory after the fact to the murder.

The theory of the accessory is that she lied in the grand jury

and therefore was an accessory after the fact to murder. It was absurd.

An accessory after murder is like the getaway driver

or the person who throws away the ski mask.

I believe that the government wanted to keep the pressure on Lori

so she would come and make a plea agreement.

I think they thought after Brian Lovelace comes forward with that statement--

"I killed my fucking wife for you"--

that she was gonna come in and say, "Oh, yeah, he did confess to me,"

and that she would just be a witness against him.

But she didn't hear that that way.

This just shows that Lori didn't know about the crime.

The government is, you know, picking on her, I mean, in a big way.

Anna Grimley had testified that Lori had confided in her

that she had given Larry an ultimatum.

The implication somehow that she was telling Larry to not only leave his wife

but to dispatch his wife.

They asked a question that really took me by surprise

about Lori giving, um...

oh, the ultimatum.

Like, what's the word.

Turned out through her prior statements to the FBI

that story had morphed and changed.

Can you tell me more about that conversation?

I don't really recall a lot of it

to be honest with you on that part.

She originally didn't say anything about an ultimatum

and later said, "I don't really know what she said."

Later on, the FBI's, "Well, would you say it was like an ultimatum?"

"Yeah, it was like an ultimatum."

That's, uh... Hey, well, that's the FBI.

We weren't even friends.

We didn't talk on the phone.

She never came to my house.

There was no ultimatum.

Why would I wait 15 years to give him an ultimatum?

It just didn't make sense.

The trial of a dentist

charged with killing his wife on an African safari

continues in Colorado.

When the government closed, we thought we were way ahead.

It didn't feel that there was proof that Larry had done this.

I was thinking, "Okay, he's got to be innocent.

He's got to be innocent. We need to have more."

Are we just grasping at straws to try to find this man guilty?

But Larry, as is his right, had wanted to testify from the beginning.

Typically when you're ahead, you don't call your client.

But when you promise something in opening, you have to follow through with it.

When a defendant takes the stand, it's the most important part of any trial.

I was really looking forward to Lawrence's testimony.

That was the most exciting part of the trial. Yes, like the Super Bowl.

...had problems in the air, completing just two of sixteen...

We had spoken to so many people around Larry Rudolph,

but we'd never had an opportunity to actually hear Larry Rudolph's version

of events.

I wanted to get my story out

I'm sure they did not understand what had happened,

and I'd like the world to know the truth.

I thought we had to humanize him because he was painted as such a villain.

We had to attack this theory that was hammered by the governor

over and over again, which was the infidelity.

So we came back with a big reveal.

Bianca and Larry had an open marriage.

An open marriage.

That's the first I ever heard that it was an open marriage.

No, there would never be an open marriage.

I thought that was absurd.

He was saying a lot of things that really weren't flattering,

certainly about how his wife wanted to have different sexual relationship

- and not with him. - She had cheated on him early on

in the marriage, and they came to this agreement.

It may not be something that is normal, that we all see around, but it happened.

I found all of that to be a grotesque distortion of the evidence that we knew.

He said those things

because he thought it would put him in a more favorable light.

We knew he was lying, he knew he was lying,

and the jury knew he was lying.

And at one point he starts trying to tear up.

He broke down a number of times on the stand.

People were crying. We were crying when he cried.

I believe that I saw him with tears, and he seemed very emotional.

And I think everyone in that courtroom

could see that it was requiring a lot of effort

and that those tears were not real.

I actually wrote in my notebook, "He's crying, but there's no tears."

He would cry and then make some really loud noise and then stop.

It was weird.

I didn't find it convincing.

Instead, what I saw was someone--

with the highest stakes possible--

thinking about how they were going to manipulate a jury.

I thought it went well.

They really didn't show any evidence

that Larry...

killed her.

It's judgment day for Rudolph.

Prosecutors say Lawrence Rudolph

killed his wife Bianca back in 2016.

I just thought I don't think they're going to find...

him guilty,

and if they don't find him guilty, they can't find me guilty.

I felt we were in a strong position at the end of our case.

The marshals said we were gonna win.

The reporters were all there telling us, "Where's the victory party?"

So we all come back into the courtroom.

And then, uh, the judge just starts reading the verdict.

Guilty, guilty, guilty.

Found guilty of murdering his wife on an African safari.

Convicted of killing his wife while they vacationed in Africa.

Now, Milliron was convicted of being an accessory to murder.

Dr. Rudolph faces up to life in prison at sentencing. His girlfriend faces up to...

I never thought this would happen in a million years.

What did those 12 people see that was so damaging

that they all thought I was guilty?

When he testified, I think that was the turning point for a lot of us.

A-A lot of this was circumstantial, um, until Larry got onto the stand.

For me it was Larry.

Larry was Larry's downfall.

There just was not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.

We believe Larry was convicted because of the noise

and not because of the evidence.

Everybody at Safari Club was so happy that they came down with that verdict,

but it doesn't bring Bianca back.

Bianca got the verdict that she deserved to get.

Maybe now she can be at rest.

I like him sitting in that jail cell and trying to learn some humility maybe.

It's Larry's world, and we're all just living in it.

That's exactly how he treated it.

Karma definitely is a bitch, and he got it.

He'll never get out of prison.

When we heard, there was another party.

I mean, it's... We look for reasons for that and that was an easy one.

Having been detained a night or two in my life,

my guess is he's not gonna be one of the guys who's running the posse in there.

Everyone knew in advance that Lawrence Rudolph was gonna get life

because that's the penalty for foreign murder.

But for Lori Milliron, the penalty could have been anywhere from probation,

all the way up to, you know, decades.

We get into sentencing. She gets the opportunity to address the court,

and what she tells everyone assembled there is that she's the victim

of being prosecuted as part of this case.

And she expresses no remorse for anything that has happened,

no remorse for Bianca's death,

no remorse for the children and what they had to go through.

This has been a waking nightmare.

I'm trying to deal with everything that we saw and process it

and move forward with my life, which has not been easy.

I'm brokenhearted.

Me too, honey.

Never gonna be the same.

I don't understand.

Why did you love Lori

more than you loved me and Mom and Julian?

I don't, honey.

Lori ruined our family.

I didn't do anything.

And I, you know, I'm not violent. I didn't kill anybody,

didn't hurt anybody, but they really wanted to put me in jail.

And they did.

The judge gave her 17 years in federal prison.

It's so outrageous.

You know, most drug dealers these days--

even kingpins-- are not looking at the time in jail that she's looking at.

She was being loyal to Larry.

She could have made up a story,

but she was not interested in doing that because that wasn't what the truth was.

So I think she was loyal to Larry, even probably to a fault.

It makes no sense.

I feel like that's the theme of everything that's happened.

It does not make sense.

Hello?

Hey, babe. Oh, my God.

I didn't even get say goodbye to you,

so I wanted to give you a call.

I'm so sorry, honey.

I am too, Lori.

You didn't do anything.

You didn't need this.

I know, neither did you.

Did she get excited about the wealth?

Yeah, but I don't think she was an evil monster.

I think she was just lost.

So maybe Larry gave her the attention that she probably didn't get from anybody.

Two innocent people.

I know.

When Lori Milliron met Lawrence Rudolph very early on in her career...

Hi, I'm Dr. Larry Rudolph.

...they had found their match together.

The two of them were kindred spirits.

I think the evidence is consistent with the idea that they loved each other,

that they wanted to be together,

that she knew about this and wanted it to happen.

I love you, and I just wanted to call one more time

and say goodbye.

I hope it's not goodbye.

It's goodbye. Yeah.

To this day, Larry Rudolph is still receiving disability payments

related to that reported crocodile attack in 2006.

As a convicted felon, he's still getting money for this in jail?

Yes. Yes.