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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,630 --> 00:00:15,050 We heard through the grapevine 2 00:00:15,050 --> 00:00:17,800 that Larry and Lori moved in together in Arizona. 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,810 Small town, a lot of talk. 4 00:00:23,980 --> 00:00:26,190 He had a nice big house that they built. 5 00:00:26,190 --> 00:00:28,020 He had the fancy cars. 6 00:00:28,020 --> 00:00:31,440 He went on vacations to nice places. 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,820 You want me to take your glasses? 8 00:00:32,820 --> 00:00:33,900 Yeah. 9 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:36,320 Lori got cash and she got trips. 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,530 Tell me that she wasn't in it for the money. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,080 - Hey, babe. - Hey, hi. 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,250 Check out the frequent fliers and we're gonna take little trips. 13 00:00:46,380 --> 00:00:47,790 Sounds good to me. 14 00:00:48,130 --> 00:00:50,210 - Missed you before. - I don't know what happened. 15 00:00:50,210 --> 00:00:52,170 I was over at Mastro's. 16 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:53,630 How was Mastro's? 17 00:00:54,420 --> 00:00:57,760 It was good. I just had a Bloody Mary. 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,220 Attagirl. Good. 19 00:00:59,220 --> 00:01:01,890 He cashed in his life insurance policy. 20 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:03,930 He was living high on the hog. 21 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:09,400 I knew he had a lot of money, but I didn't realize the extent of it. 22 00:01:10,230 --> 00:01:13,400 I understand he had to have a two-floor trophy room. 23 00:01:13,990 --> 00:01:18,200 What do you do for fun besides hunt and philander? 24 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:21,620 Larry seemed very relaxed. 25 00:01:21,620 --> 00:01:23,040 We're gonna get a dog. 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,210 A little dog. 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,420 Not a care in the world. "I do what I want and no one can stop me." 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,130 I am told that Larry said he's running for the House of Representatives 29 00:01:36,130 --> 00:01:37,300 of the United States, 30 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:41,050 which just demonstrates how delusional he was. 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,390 I think he thought he was untouchable. 32 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:51,820 I think you develop a level of unrealistic confidence. 33 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:56,280 The longer you get away with something, 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,360 the longer you think you've gotten away with it. 35 00:02:11,130 --> 00:02:12,130 We were having fun. 36 00:02:13,130 --> 00:02:15,130 I always loved the traveling. 37 00:02:19,470 --> 00:02:21,010 We're going to Cabo. 38 00:02:21,890 --> 00:02:24,010 We had been there before. 39 00:02:24,850 --> 00:02:31,770 And we said, "This is so great. Why don't we come back and stay the holidays here?" 40 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,490 So, we go to the airport, we check in. 41 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:42,490 And then at the last minute, three people got on the plane. 42 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,160 And I said to Larry, 43 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,620 "I think that's FBI." 44 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,460 And, like, you could just feel 45 00:02:51,460 --> 00:02:54,040 something bad was gonna happen. 46 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:57,670 He never dreamed that this would happen. 47 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,720 Never dreamed, not in a million years. 48 00:03:43,550 --> 00:03:45,430 What do you want people to know about her? 49 00:03:46,010 --> 00:03:47,220 Oh, God. 50 00:03:48,930 --> 00:03:49,930 Um... 51 00:03:55,230 --> 00:04:00,400 I'll never forget meeting her and seeing those green eyes, 52 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:02,570 that flaming red hair 53 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:06,580 and the smile on her face. 54 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:09,450 And just all the fun we had. 55 00:04:12,620 --> 00:04:15,330 She was a... a wonderful woman. 56 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,710 She was deeply religious. 57 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,210 She loved her kids. 58 00:04:22,630 --> 00:04:24,970 And, unfortunately, she loved her husband. 59 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,180 He's just evil right down to his toenails. 60 00:04:34,810 --> 00:04:38,020 Yeah, I... I wouldn't put anything past him, anything. 61 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:44,530 Some of the people in Safari Club would call around 62 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:47,320 and try to figure out exactly what happened. 63 00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:50,660 I mean, none of it makes sense. 64 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:56,000 We needed the FBI to get involved. 65 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,540 We received telephone calls 66 00:04:58,540 --> 00:05:01,840 from multiple friends of Bianca Rudolph after her death. 67 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:09,180 There was some kind of rumor floating around 68 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:10,760 that she did commit suicide. 69 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,180 I don't think it was suicide. I would never believe that. 70 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:14,600 I've never had that feeling. 71 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,440 It's anticipated when someone dies under these circumstances 72 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,230 that you'll get phone calls, but often they lack a level of specificity. 73 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:23,940 I said, "You cannot possibly tell me 74 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:25,200 that you're going to Africa with this man." 75 00:05:25,740 --> 00:05:26,900 She just said, "I have to." 76 00:05:26,910 --> 00:05:28,740 Larry said she's old and used up. 77 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:31,660 He's been having an affair for 15 years. 78 00:05:31,660 --> 00:05:34,370 In this case, we were hearing specific information 79 00:05:34,370 --> 00:05:38,170 that they thought showed that there was something suspicious about this death. 80 00:05:38,170 --> 00:05:40,250 Do you think Larry had anything to do with this? 81 00:05:40,250 --> 00:05:42,210 You can get away with anything in Africa. 82 00:05:42,210 --> 00:05:47,260 But four murder investigations conducted by FBI agents are extremely rare. 83 00:05:55,230 --> 00:05:57,440 I got into the FBI to catch bad guys. 84 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,860 For three years, the case had got lost in the shuffle. 85 00:06:04,940 --> 00:06:08,200 In 2019, I read what happened to Bianca. 86 00:06:09,740 --> 00:06:11,780 And this was one of those cases where, 87 00:06:11,780 --> 00:06:16,200 like, I felt inside that, like, this is what my job is for. 88 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,910 This is what I'm supposed to do. 89 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:22,210 What motivates me is the victims. 90 00:06:22,210 --> 00:06:25,760 All of those victims have families that deserve answers. 91 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:29,180 I felt so bad for Bianca. 92 00:06:30,090 --> 00:06:35,520 And I always, on a personal level, thought of her as... Like, this could be my mom. 93 00:06:36,390 --> 00:06:40,850 And I just felt that, like, this needs to be addressed for her, to give her a voice. 94 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,480 Federal prosecutors don't prosecute murders very often. 95 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,650 That's because most murders are prosecuted by the state. 96 00:06:48,650 --> 00:06:51,820 When I presented this case to the supervisor in Denver, 97 00:06:51,820 --> 00:06:53,910 the expectations were low on it 98 00:06:53,910 --> 00:06:57,370 because of the distance in time between 2016, 2019. 99 00:06:57,870 --> 00:07:01,710 The fact that we didn't have a body because she was cremated in Zambia. 100 00:07:02,290 --> 00:07:06,500 And we didn't have the murder weapon because he had broken it in pieces, 101 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:08,670 put it into a couple of different boxes, 102 00:07:08,670 --> 00:07:10,840 and then gave it to somebody to dispose of. 103 00:07:14,350 --> 00:07:15,680 The case gets to our desk, 104 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,020 and what we have is the case file from the Zambian police. 105 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:22,480 There were a number of factors 106 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,690 that indicated that this was not an accident, 107 00:07:25,690 --> 00:07:30,820 and the weapon being unloaded the night before is just one of those. 108 00:07:32,110 --> 00:07:33,740 There were reports that were issued 109 00:07:33,740 --> 00:07:36,330 within the first three days following her death 110 00:07:36,330 --> 00:07:38,740 that listed suicide as the manner of death. 111 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:43,920 But the acrobatics that she would have to put herself in to shoot herself that way 112 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,460 just didn't make sense to us. 113 00:07:45,460 --> 00:07:50,710 So, we designed what we called a reach study, and we recruited female volunteers 114 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,930 who were approximately the same size and dimensions as Bianca Rudolph. 115 00:07:54,930 --> 00:07:57,720 Out of the 50 different tests, one person was able to reach the trigger 116 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,890 because they have flexible shoulders from their time in gymnastics. 117 00:08:02,890 --> 00:08:04,900 Bianca, I don't think was a gymnast. 118 00:08:06,270 --> 00:08:10,480 Now we were talking about a question of was it directly on her chest 119 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:12,110 or was there a distance. 120 00:08:12,780 --> 00:08:18,580 And the autopsy report said that Bianca Rudolph had a six-centimeter defect 121 00:08:18,580 --> 00:08:20,540 directly to her heart. 122 00:08:20,540 --> 00:08:23,540 So for that, we conducted what's called a pattern test. 123 00:08:23,540 --> 00:08:28,380 We didn't have the original murder weapon, so we had to get the next best thing. 124 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:32,170 The same ammunition, the same gun case, and the same weapon. 125 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:39,430 And it wasn't until we moved back that we started seeing a defect 126 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:42,640 that was approximately six centimeters in diameter, 127 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,600 and based on those studies, 128 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:50,070 we determined that someone had fired the shotgun 129 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:54,900 at a distance of one, two, maybe three feet. 130 00:08:54,900 --> 00:08:58,530 There was no way this was an accident. It was a homicide, 131 00:08:58,530 --> 00:09:02,950 and the only person with a motive to commit homicide against Bianca Rudolph 132 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:04,750 was Lawrence Rudolph. 133 00:09:07,330 --> 00:09:08,710 Early in the investigation, 134 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:13,380 we started looking at Larry Rudolph's financial activity. 135 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,510 We were subpoenaing bank accounts, the insurance companies, 136 00:09:17,510 --> 00:09:19,470 telephone, emails. 137 00:09:19,470 --> 00:09:23,850 We saw all the proceeds from all the life insurance policies, 138 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:27,810 and so we needed to talk to his life insurance guy. 139 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:30,900 He even tried to sell me life insurance when I interviewed him. 140 00:09:31,570 --> 00:09:35,400 You know, I'm always trying to help people. I told you that. 141 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:43,410 We learned that Bianca Rudolph was apparently overinsured. 142 00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:48,670 Nine different life insurance policies from seven different insurance companies. 143 00:09:48,670 --> 00:09:51,590 For a total of $4.8 million. 144 00:09:51,590 --> 00:09:53,590 Obviously that's gonna raise red flags. 145 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:58,930 I only knew about three policies, but he had found other agents 146 00:09:58,930 --> 00:10:02,680 to write insurance on her unbeknownst to me. 147 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,980 It just blew my mind. 148 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:15,980 The FBI arranged a trip to come up to Zambia, 149 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:21,280 and my regional security officer sets up meetings with the police, 150 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,410 with all the actors. 151 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:26,540 They naturally ask why we want to investigate it. 152 00:10:27,540 --> 00:10:29,210 When we came to hear the story, 153 00:10:29,210 --> 00:10:32,540 that's how we started believing that he is a murderer. 154 00:10:33,670 --> 00:10:34,670 He did it. 155 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:37,090 It was intentional 156 00:10:37,090 --> 00:10:41,180 for him to come and kill the wife here 157 00:10:41,180 --> 00:10:43,800 because, you know, it was in bush. 158 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:48,270 No one could be able to tell what had transpired. 159 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,270 And so as we talk to everybody, 160 00:10:51,270 --> 00:10:53,860 everybody has one little piece of the puzzle. 161 00:10:54,650 --> 00:10:57,070 There's numerous inconsistencies. 162 00:10:57,070 --> 00:10:58,610 "I was in the bathroom showering. 163 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,030 I was in the bathroom on the toilet. 164 00:11:02,030 --> 00:11:04,240 I was outside drinking coffee on the deck." 165 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,200 It tells me that Larry Rudolph was lying. 166 00:11:06,950 --> 00:11:10,460 If I'm in the shower and I run out, I'm not gonna have any clothes on, 167 00:11:10,460 --> 00:11:12,330 I'm gonna be dripping all over the place, 168 00:11:12,330 --> 00:11:15,750 and I didn't see any mention of that whatsoever. 169 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,140 Talk to me about how and when you figured out 170 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:26,850 what had happened with the crocodile. 171 00:11:28,930 --> 00:11:31,190 We think that Lawrence took the gun, 172 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:34,060 shot his own thumb in order to collect disability insurance. 173 00:11:34,770 --> 00:11:36,110 When you look at that image, 174 00:11:36,110 --> 00:11:41,030 you can see something that resembles gunpowder residue, or stippling. 175 00:11:42,570 --> 00:11:47,030 That's where he learned that he could get away with something significant 176 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,120 and not get caught. 177 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:54,710 We felt like we knew how the murder happened, 178 00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:57,710 but we needed to know why it happened. 179 00:11:58,250 --> 00:12:01,470 And then, out of nowhere, we got a tip from someone. 180 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,180 In his statements, 181 00:12:10,180 --> 00:12:13,230 he was saying that he overheard Lawrence tell Lori... 182 00:12:13,230 --> 00:12:15,980 "I killed my fucking wife for you." 183 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:23,450 This is too good to be true to get this type of tip from someone. 184 00:12:23,950 --> 00:12:29,080 Lori Milliron gives us another motive that he may have in killing Bianca Rudolph. 185 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:35,580 The FBI agent said, "You will be down here tomorrow to talk to us about this," 186 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,960 and I was, like... ..."Crap." 187 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,430 I called the FBI thinking it was an anonymous phone call, 188 00:12:50,430 --> 00:12:54,100 but we all know it's not. 189 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:57,400 Yeah, yeah, when you call the FBI with your phone number, 190 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,320 normally we can find out where you are. 191 00:13:01,860 --> 00:13:03,820 Once I talked to the FBI, 192 00:13:03,820 --> 00:13:08,320 everything started to be put in place about this person. 193 00:13:09,830 --> 00:13:15,250 Lori gave him an ultimatum, and that ultimatum was to get rid of Bianca. 194 00:13:16,170 --> 00:13:20,250 And looking back, it wasn't the divorce. It was an ultimatum to get rid of her, 195 00:13:20,250 --> 00:13:23,670 of saying get rid of her, meaning killing her. 196 00:13:25,630 --> 00:13:28,550 Lori Milliron was tired of being the other woman. 197 00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:30,470 She was tired of being second fiddle. 198 00:13:30,470 --> 00:13:32,510 She wanted to be the one doing all these adventures. 199 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,350 She wanted to be living in the big house. 200 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,610 This wasn't just any affair but a long-running affair. 201 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:47,490 We learned through the investigation that for many years of the affair, 202 00:13:47,490 --> 00:13:50,240 Bianca Rudolph thought of Lori Milliron 203 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,200 as Lawrence Rudolph's very close business confidante. 204 00:13:56,210 --> 00:13:59,210 But in the months and years leading up to the murder, 205 00:13:59,210 --> 00:14:03,340 Bianca had discovered this affair with Lori Milliron. 206 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,680 When she discovered a hair clip in her bed that was not her hair clip, 207 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:11,890 she had confirmation of the nature of the relationship. 208 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:15,480 And according to this witness, it was devastating to Bianca. 209 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:20,690 We learned that Bianca had also given Lawrence Rudolph an ultimatum, 210 00:14:20,690 --> 00:14:21,900 the opposite one. 211 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:26,230 She had given him an ultimatum that he had to fire Lori 212 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,530 or she was leaving. 213 00:14:29,070 --> 00:14:31,570 He agreed that he would let Lori go. 214 00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:32,990 She goes, you know, 215 00:14:32,990 --> 00:14:35,160 "Everything's gonna be okay. He fired Lori." 216 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,080 And I'm, like, "Yeah, just so you know, he didn't fire Lori. 217 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,500 She's working from home." 218 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,540 He's not gonna be able to keep Lori Milliron as a mistress. 219 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:43,710 She wants more. 220 00:14:43,710 --> 00:14:46,760 He's maybe not gonna be able to keep Bianca Rudolph as his wife, 221 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,800 because she wants him to stop. 222 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,390 And he's maybe going to have to go through a painful divorce 223 00:14:53,390 --> 00:14:55,560 where he's gonna lose half of his money. 224 00:14:56,270 --> 00:14:59,020 Larry Rudolph wouldn't divorce Bianca Rudolph 225 00:14:59,020 --> 00:15:03,270 because he didn't want to risk losing a significant amount of money. 226 00:15:05,190 --> 00:15:08,900 This sort of conflict comes to a head just before the murder, 227 00:15:09,650 --> 00:15:12,320 and if Lawrence Rudolph wants to maintain his life, 228 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,740 he's going to need to take drastic action 229 00:15:14,740 --> 00:15:16,620 to keep things the way he wants them to be. 230 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,960 We felt we could prove beyond a reasonable doubt 231 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,590 that Lawrence Rudolph murdered Bianca. 232 00:15:34,010 --> 00:15:35,760 We're going to Cabo. 233 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,680 We decided we're gonna go there for the holidays. 234 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,730 And, uh, we were really looking forward to that. 235 00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:51,280 We get to Cabo 236 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,660 and they announced that they're gonna check passports 237 00:15:54,660 --> 00:15:56,450 as we exit the plane, 238 00:15:56,950 --> 00:16:01,000 and I'm thinking, "They never do that. We've already given them our passports." 239 00:16:03,460 --> 00:16:06,380 I got off first and I just kinda stood there 240 00:16:06,380 --> 00:16:08,380 waiting for him to get off. 241 00:16:09,340 --> 00:16:15,930 And there's five or six brown-shirted Mexican police standing there waiting, 242 00:16:15,930 --> 00:16:18,470 and I'm like, "Oh, my God, what is going on?" 243 00:16:20,060 --> 00:16:21,980 Larry showed them their passport. 244 00:16:23,060 --> 00:16:24,850 And they said, "We got him." 245 00:16:26,810 --> 00:16:28,690 And they... they just took him. 246 00:16:30,110 --> 00:16:33,070 Deported him to Denver where, when he landed, 247 00:16:33,740 --> 00:16:36,320 Donnie and I were there to make the arrest. 248 00:16:36,820 --> 00:16:40,120 And seeing him in handcuffs is, you know, it's always, you know, 249 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,750 rewarding for us to see that. 250 00:16:42,580 --> 00:16:46,330 Doctor Lawrence Rudolph is accused of murdering his wife in... 251 00:16:46,330 --> 00:16:48,630 It's a case involving money, murder, and sexual affairs. 252 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:49,710 A former Pittsburgh... 253 00:16:49,710 --> 00:16:52,550 Everybody called everybody else, and it's like, "He's been arrested." 254 00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:53,880 We had a party. 255 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,300 Well, now he's being accused of murder. 256 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:57,720 How did I react? 257 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,390 I was happy. 258 00:17:00,390 --> 00:17:02,930 I thought justice was being served. 259 00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:06,770 A lot of people are just like, "Well, it's been a long time coming." 260 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:11,980 For a man that thought he was above the law and above anything, 261 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:17,110 now he's in cuffs. Blew me away. I felt safe. 262 00:17:21,490 --> 00:17:24,080 Hello. This is a prepaid collect call from... 263 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,370 Larry. 264 00:17:25,370 --> 00:17:26,670 Hello? 265 00:17:26,670 --> 00:17:30,040 Hey, babe. Oh, my God. Where are you? 266 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,300 It's been difficult. To have it taken away like this. 267 00:17:33,300 --> 00:17:34,630 It's freaking me out. 268 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:36,590 And I'm in with the Bloods and the Crips and-- 269 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,720 Are you serious? 270 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:39,600 Fuck yeah, man. It's bad. 271 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:43,680 Oh. Sounds scary as hell. 272 00:17:44,430 --> 00:17:47,980 I know. I miss our life. I miss everything we used to do. 273 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,650 Yeah, me too. 274 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:51,360 I miss you. 275 00:17:51,730 --> 00:17:52,900 I miss you too. 276 00:17:54,570 --> 00:17:56,700 Once we find out about Lori 277 00:17:56,700 --> 00:17:59,030 and that she had given Lawrence an ultimatum, 278 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:02,280 of course that's gonna lead us down the route of... what is her involvement? 279 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:03,700 Does she know about the murder? 280 00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:05,960 And what else has she helped him with, possibly? 281 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,920 Investigators determined that one of the first people Lawrence notifies 282 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,010 about Bianca's death in the United States is Lori Milliron. 283 00:18:17,170 --> 00:18:20,300 Lori's seen driving Bianca's vehicle shortly thereafter. 284 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:24,560 She's living in Bianca's home. She's building a new house. 285 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,520 She gets all this access to everything that she wanted, 286 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,230 and she doesn't have to put up with Bianca anymore. 287 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Larry and Lori could live publicly, 288 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,070 but they were living a lie. 289 00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:40,110 They told people that they had recently met 290 00:18:40,110 --> 00:18:42,530 and that this was a new relationship. 291 00:18:43,780 --> 00:18:45,790 There was no evidence at that point in time 292 00:18:45,790 --> 00:18:49,210 that she had actually helped to plan the murder. 293 00:18:52,130 --> 00:18:56,420 But we knew that she knew Lawrence Rudolph had committed the crime 294 00:18:56,420 --> 00:19:00,130 because Lawrence Rudolph yelled at her in a bar... 295 00:19:00,130 --> 00:19:02,350 "I killed my fucking wife for you." 296 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:07,720 We wanted to talk to Lori Milliron, 297 00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:10,560 and we went to Pittsburgh, knocked on the door. 298 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:15,320 We saw a car service pull up. The garage opened and Lori walked out, 299 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,110 and we found out that she had booked a ticket, 300 00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:19,570 while we were outside, to go to Phoenix. 301 00:19:24,580 --> 00:19:27,450 One of the other methods we have is that we can give her a subpoena 302 00:19:27,450 --> 00:19:29,870 and compel her to testify in front of a grand jury. 303 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:35,590 They served me with a subpoena for that, uh, grand jury thing. 304 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:38,380 Okay, now remember, this is an open line. 305 00:19:38,670 --> 00:19:39,670 Yeah, I know. 306 00:19:39,670 --> 00:19:43,050 It says, "The grand jury is conducting an investigation 307 00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:47,010 of possible violations of federal criminal law, 308 00:19:47,010 --> 00:19:49,270 including mail, and"-- 309 00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:52,350 Yeah, don't-- Don't talk about it, honey. 310 00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:56,820 They just started asking me questions. It was really frightening. 311 00:19:58,230 --> 00:20:01,820 He had a graph showing the amount of deposits I made, 312 00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:04,780 asking me why there was so much more money there. 313 00:20:04,780 --> 00:20:06,410 Was that hush money? 314 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:10,160 She says she's getting this money because he's very generous. 315 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,580 That they don't show up to work together every morning. 316 00:20:12,580 --> 00:20:14,960 That they're not having this sort of relationship. 317 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,210 They were really wanting me to portray him as a horrible person. 318 00:20:19,210 --> 00:20:22,260 And I think it really made them angry that I didn't. 319 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,390 She lied in front of the grand jury and she was presented with the idea 320 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:30,680 that we were confident that she would be convicted 321 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,850 if she did not choose to cooperate. 322 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,100 And she chose not to cooperate. 323 00:20:35,730 --> 00:20:37,980 The girlfriend of a former local dentist... 324 00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:39,480 Larry's alleged mistress... 325 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,530 - His alleged mistress... - His mistress is facing charges too. 326 00:20:47,410 --> 00:20:49,660 I just... I couldn't believe, like... 327 00:20:50,580 --> 00:20:54,330 How is this happening to somebody that is such a good person? 328 00:20:54,830 --> 00:20:56,040 Somebody that is innocent. 329 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Um... 330 00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:02,300 I'm still wrapping my head around that. 331 00:21:07,470 --> 00:21:09,140 My mom was telling the truth. 332 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,220 She's 65 years old. 333 00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:19,150 She's never had a prior arrest. She has no criminal history. 334 00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:26,320 When I was laying in bed going to sleep, 335 00:21:26,820 --> 00:21:31,120 just closing my eyes and trying to imagine the environment that she was in, 336 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:32,660 in that exact moment, 337 00:21:34,290 --> 00:21:37,250 my heart broke, and I was terrified. 338 00:21:38,290 --> 00:21:41,920 And all I could just think was, "Don't cry, be strong." 339 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:01,270 This call is from a federal prison. 340 00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:02,940 This call is from... 341 00:22:02,940 --> 00:22:04,780 Lawrence Rudolph. 342 00:22:05,860 --> 00:22:08,740 I was a person that was completely law-abiding, 343 00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:10,410 never had a traffic ticket. 344 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:13,700 Let alone having been involved in something 345 00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:16,460 as heinous as what they accused me of. 346 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:18,750 In the federal system, 347 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:21,500 the odds are stacked against you. 348 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,710 I had to get the best attorneys. 349 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,550 We didn't wanna take any chances. 350 00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:32,720 The government has every advantage in a criminal case. 351 00:22:33,930 --> 00:22:35,390 It's like David versus Goliath. 352 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,690 David O. Marcus is one of South Florida's 353 00:22:40,690 --> 00:22:43,230 big-time veteran criminal defense attorneys. 354 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,610 David Oscar Marcus. 355 00:22:45,610 --> 00:22:48,650 A super high-profile criminal defense attorney. 356 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,580 I have to be honest, I-I thought the case was ridiculous. 357 00:22:53,490 --> 00:22:57,580 I have no understanding of why these two agents picked up this file 358 00:22:57,580 --> 00:22:58,750 which had dust on it. 359 00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:03,540 Not only did the Zambians clear Larry and say it was an accident, 360 00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:07,550 the life insurance companies cleared Larry and said it was an accident. 361 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:11,550 I thought this was a total bullshit case. 362 00:23:12,050 --> 00:23:15,010 They don't have enough evidence, and I thought we were gonna win. 363 00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:22,230 The trial for a Paradise Valley man 364 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:26,440 accused of killing his wife on safari is officially underway. 365 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,070 Federal prosecutors do not charge a case 366 00:23:33,070 --> 00:23:39,080 unless they believe that they are going to be able to convince 12 people unanimously, 367 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,920 beyond a reasonable doubt, that the crime has been committed. 368 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,790 The judge said, "Larry's innocent 369 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,510 till you see the evidence that indicates he's not innocent." 370 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,800 I was thinking, we've got to have some solid evidence, 371 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,640 some solid proof that he truly did do this crime. 372 00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:05,650 We told the jury, "You're gonna be faced with this incredible task 373 00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:09,490 of ignoring stuff that does not matter." 374 00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:14,610 I told the jury, "Don't make up your mind early 375 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:17,450 because, big reveal, 376 00:24:17,450 --> 00:24:19,700 Larry Rudolph is gonna get on the stand." 377 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,880 The defense theory here was for every fact that we came up with 378 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,340 to come up with some equally plausible alternative. 379 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,010 First of all, the crime scene, if you can call it that, 380 00:24:37,010 --> 00:24:39,220 was a total fucking mess. 381 00:24:40,810 --> 00:24:43,850 Everything was moved. Nothing was kept proper. 382 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,060 They asked me, "Did you touch the gun?" 383 00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:48,560 I said, "Yes." 384 00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:49,820 Larry Rudolph, 385 00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:54,400 he was looking like he was going to kill himself. 386 00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:56,740 That's how I moved the gun. 387 00:24:56,740 --> 00:25:00,030 There's reports that the body was taken outside immediately and covered up, 388 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,290 but then it was back inside. 389 00:25:01,290 --> 00:25:03,120 So it's just a mess. 390 00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:09,500 The guy who did the autopsy stuck a ruler in the wound and moved it around. 391 00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:11,880 I mean, it was a joke. 392 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,880 Another aspect of this case is 393 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,390 Lawrence Rudolph moved very quickly to cremate the body 394 00:25:19,390 --> 00:25:21,560 in a way that everyone found to be suspicious. 395 00:25:22,350 --> 00:25:23,470 They made a big deal about this. 396 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,900 This was in their initial criminal complaint, which the media picks up on. 397 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:33,110 "Larry Rudolph cremates his wife before she comes back to the United States." 398 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:36,860 We know from speaking to Larry that Bianca had a will 399 00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:38,240 where she wanted to be cremated. 400 00:25:39,620 --> 00:25:44,080 The government's main pillar of evidence was all wrong. 401 00:25:44,580 --> 00:25:45,710 They're shocked. 402 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:49,670 That did change that aspect of the case a little bit in that 403 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:52,090 that's a fact that we're not gonna focus on as much, 404 00:25:52,090 --> 00:25:53,960 but there's so much other evidence. 405 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,260 The insurance thing, again, was a lot of noise. 406 00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:00,930 They wanted a headline: "Five million of insurance. 407 00:26:00,930 --> 00:26:03,770 Five million of insurance." They pounded it over and over again, 408 00:26:03,770 --> 00:26:07,350 but when you actually dug into the numbers... 409 00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:09,650 So what? 410 00:26:10,690 --> 00:26:13,440 This was insurance that was accumulated over many years. 411 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,320 It's not like they did it a month before, uh, the trip to Zambia. 412 00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:23,030 She went and got the medical exams that you need for life insurance. 413 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,750 She signed all the forms. She wanted this for her kids. 414 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:31,380 And this idea that he spent it on fancy things? 415 00:26:31,380 --> 00:26:34,460 False. He didn't touch the life insurance money. 416 00:26:34,460 --> 00:26:37,220 He put it in a trust. It just sat there. 417 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,510 Another headline-grabbing distraction, 418 00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:47,350 but that's what's gonna sell to the jury, right? Affairs, greed, money. 419 00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:49,980 That's not evidence of murder. 420 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:57,150 I thought, "This is some of the best lawyering I will ever see in my life." 421 00:26:57,150 --> 00:27:00,780 Why is it relevant that he was in a fight with the Safari Club? 422 00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:03,830 Why is it relevant that he was in a fight with employees at his business? 423 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:05,950 To a murder charge, it's not. 424 00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:13,920 Larry's defense attorneys were extraordinarily polished. 425 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,550 He would raise his eyebrows 426 00:27:15,550 --> 00:27:18,170 and would, you know, make eye contact with you. 427 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:22,720 We have the evidence, they wanted to focus on, "This doesn't look good." 428 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:31,230 This is a wild case. 429 00:27:31,230 --> 00:27:34,690 We learned a whole lot more, including an alleged murder confession 430 00:27:34,690 --> 00:27:36,480 at Steak 44 in Phoenix, 431 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,700 where Larry allegedly confessed that he killed his wife Bianca for Lori. 432 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,660 Brian Lovelace taking the stand 433 00:27:46,660 --> 00:27:48,490 was one of the most dramatic moments of the trial. 434 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,250 We had talked about it in the opening statements 435 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:53,960 how the jury was going to hear about this confession. 436 00:27:55,290 --> 00:27:58,670 It was the focus of the opening, it was the focus of the trial. 437 00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:05,600 I walk into the courtroom, and the tension was just incredible. 438 00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:10,100 He tells the jury he heard Lawrence Rudolph, 439 00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,180 during a break in the music, say... 440 00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:14,270 "I killed my fucking wife for you." 441 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,440 We found out about this, we were like, "Oh, my God." 442 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,700 Now it's true that he heard that. We didn't contest that. 443 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,990 But did he hear what was said right beforehand? 444 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Um, well, he could have said anything before, 445 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,590 but I... I didn't hear the conversation. 446 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,970 This is what we were told by both Lori and Larry: 447 00:28:42,510 --> 00:28:43,760 They were having a conversation 448 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,390 'cause they've just learned that the FBI was investigating, 449 00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:50,180 and Larry said, "The FBI says I killed my effing wife for you." 450 00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:52,390 What is the jury going to think about this? 451 00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:57,310 Yeah, Steak 44 was a little mind-blowing. 452 00:28:57,310 --> 00:29:00,480 I thought, "Okay, that's possible." 453 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,320 I wrote it down and I underlined it and I circled it. 454 00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:05,740 After she took the stand, 455 00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:09,080 there is potentially room for reasonable doubt 456 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,330 in the minds of the jury. 457 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,450 That wasn't part of the plan. 458 00:29:16,170 --> 00:29:17,880 In an unexpected twist, 459 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,340 the judge says Dr. Larry Rudolph will not stand trial alone. 460 00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:24,220 Rudolph's mistress, Lori Milliron, is also on trial. 461 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:27,840 She's accused of lying to a federal grand jury about this case 462 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,720 and her relationship with Rudolph. 463 00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:34,060 We did not like the fact that she was in his indictment at all. 464 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:36,810 The optics of it were really bad. 465 00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:40,110 What I care about most is, how is it gonna look to the jury? 466 00:29:40,110 --> 00:29:44,320 And it looks bad when both the husband and the mistress are charged together. 467 00:29:44,860 --> 00:29:48,120 And we told Lori, "You need to get a lawyer, you need to separate from us." 468 00:29:50,830 --> 00:29:52,740 Lori hired John Dill. 469 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:56,620 If you need a trial lawyer, get the real "dill." 470 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,330 Tried to get her case separated from Larry's. 471 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:02,710 As a defense attorney, you'd rather be off on your own. 472 00:30:04,010 --> 00:30:08,680 The charges against Lori were five different counts of perjury, 473 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,390 and because of those alleged false statements, 474 00:30:11,390 --> 00:30:13,640 they charged her with obstruction of justice. 475 00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:15,810 And also because of those statements, 476 00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:18,900 charged her with accessory after the fact to the murder. 477 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,980 The theory of the accessory is that she lied in the grand jury 478 00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:25,150 and therefore was an accessory after the fact to murder. It was absurd. 479 00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:28,240 An accessory after murder is like the getaway driver 480 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,320 or the person who throws away the ski mask. 481 00:30:30,910 --> 00:30:33,450 I believe that the government wanted to keep the pressure on Lori 482 00:30:33,450 --> 00:30:35,330 so she would come and make a plea agreement. 483 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,210 I think they thought after Brian Lovelace comes forward with that statement-- 484 00:30:40,210 --> 00:30:42,540 "I killed my fucking wife for you"-- 485 00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:46,260 that she was gonna come in and say, "Oh, yeah, he did confess to me," 486 00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:48,470 and that she would just be a witness against him. 487 00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:50,430 But she didn't hear that that way. 488 00:30:51,180 --> 00:30:53,930 This just shows that Lori didn't know about the crime. 489 00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:57,560 The government is, you know, picking on her, I mean, in a big way. 490 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:05,360 Anna Grimley had testified that Lori had confided in her 491 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,690 that she had given Larry an ultimatum. 492 00:31:07,690 --> 00:31:12,160 The implication somehow that she was telling Larry to not only leave his wife 493 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,910 but to dispatch his wife. 494 00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:18,410 They asked a question that really took me by surprise 495 00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:21,670 about Lori giving, um... 496 00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:25,250 oh, the ultimatum. 497 00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:28,550 Like, what's the word. 498 00:31:28,550 --> 00:31:31,220 Turned out through her prior statements to the FBI 499 00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:33,140 that story had morphed and changed. 500 00:31:34,050 --> 00:31:36,470 Can you tell me more about that conversation? 501 00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:38,520 I don't really recall a lot of it 502 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,140 to be honest with you on that part. 503 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:42,690 She originally didn't say anything about an ultimatum 504 00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:45,020 and later said, "I don't really know what she said." 505 00:31:45,020 --> 00:31:47,820 Later on, the FBI's, "Well, would you say it was like an ultimatum?" 506 00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:49,440 "Yeah, it was like an ultimatum." 507 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,700 That's, uh... Hey, well, that's the FBI. 508 00:31:53,820 --> 00:31:55,200 We weren't even friends. 509 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,530 We didn't talk on the phone. 510 00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:58,700 She never came to my house. 511 00:31:59,370 --> 00:32:00,660 There was no ultimatum. 512 00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:04,000 Why would I wait 15 years to give him an ultimatum? 513 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,550 It just didn't make sense. 514 00:32:10,670 --> 00:32:12,260 The trial of a dentist 515 00:32:12,260 --> 00:32:14,390 charged with killing his wife on an African safari 516 00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:16,430 continues in Colorado. 517 00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:20,770 When the government closed, we thought we were way ahead. 518 00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:26,060 It didn't feel that there was proof that Larry had done this. 519 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,020 I was thinking, "Okay, he's got to be innocent. 520 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:30,820 He's got to be innocent. We need to have more." 521 00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:35,160 Are we just grasping at straws to try to find this man guilty? 522 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,080 But Larry, as is his right, had wanted to testify from the beginning. 523 00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:43,170 Typically when you're ahead, you don't call your client. 524 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,130 But when you promise something in opening, you have to follow through with it. 525 00:32:48,380 --> 00:32:53,260 When a defendant takes the stand, it's the most important part of any trial. 526 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,890 I was really looking forward to Lawrence's testimony. 527 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,140 That was the most exciting part of the trial. Yes, like the Super Bowl. 528 00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:06,690 ...had problems in the air, completing just two of sixteen... 529 00:33:06,690 --> 00:33:11,650 We had spoken to so many people around Larry Rudolph, 530 00:33:11,650 --> 00:33:16,610 but we'd never had an opportunity to actually hear Larry Rudolph's version 531 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:17,990 of events. 532 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,080 I wanted to get my story out 533 00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:25,580 I'm sure they did not understand what had happened, 534 00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:28,710 and I'd like the world to know the truth. 535 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,090 I thought we had to humanize him because he was painted as such a villain. 536 00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:37,050 We had to attack this theory that was hammered by the governor 537 00:33:37,050 --> 00:33:40,350 over and over again, which was the infidelity. 538 00:33:41,510 --> 00:33:44,430 So we came back with a big reveal. 539 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,400 Bianca and Larry had an open marriage. 540 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,440 An open marriage. 541 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,070 That's the first I ever heard that it was an open marriage. 542 00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:59,160 No, there would never be an open marriage. 543 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,280 I thought that was absurd. 544 00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:05,080 He was saying a lot of things that really weren't flattering, 545 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,170 certainly about how his wife wanted to have different sexual relationship 546 00:34:09,170 --> 00:34:12,090 - and not with him. - She had cheated on him early on 547 00:34:12,090 --> 00:34:14,090 in the marriage, and they came to this agreement. 548 00:34:14,090 --> 00:34:19,050 It may not be something that is normal, that we all see around, but it happened. 549 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,520 I found all of that to be a grotesque distortion of the evidence that we knew. 550 00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:33,690 He said those things 551 00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:37,070 because he thought it would put him in a more favorable light. 552 00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:40,280 We knew he was lying, he knew he was lying, 553 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,910 and the jury knew he was lying. 554 00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:49,000 And at one point he starts trying to tear up. 555 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,420 He broke down a number of times on the stand. 556 00:34:55,590 --> 00:34:57,970 People were crying. We were crying when he cried. 557 00:34:57,970 --> 00:35:00,720 I believe that I saw him with tears, and he seemed very emotional. 558 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,050 And I think everyone in that courtroom 559 00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:06,270 could see that it was requiring a lot of effort 560 00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:08,600 and that those tears were not real. 561 00:35:09,310 --> 00:35:13,310 I actually wrote in my notebook, "He's crying, but there's no tears." 562 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,110 He would cry and then make some really loud noise and then stop. 563 00:35:16,690 --> 00:35:17,740 It was weird. 564 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,240 I didn't find it convincing. 565 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:23,780 Instead, what I saw was someone-- 566 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,120 with the highest stakes possible-- 567 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,370 thinking about how they were going to manipulate a jury. 568 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,510 I thought it went well. 569 00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:41,930 They really didn't show any evidence 570 00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:43,010 that Larry... 571 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:45,390 killed her. 572 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:48,430 It's judgment day for Rudolph. 573 00:35:48,430 --> 00:35:50,430 Prosecutors say Lawrence Rudolph 574 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,690 killed his wife Bianca back in 2016. 575 00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:55,900 I just thought I don't think they're going to find... 576 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:56,980 him guilty, 577 00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:59,860 and if they don't find him guilty, they can't find me guilty. 578 00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:04,620 I felt we were in a strong position at the end of our case. 579 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:06,910 The marshals said we were gonna win. 580 00:36:06,910 --> 00:36:11,500 The reporters were all there telling us, "Where's the victory party?" 581 00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:14,880 So we all come back into the courtroom. 582 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:19,090 And then, uh, the judge just starts reading the verdict. 583 00:36:19,090 --> 00:36:22,430 Guilty, guilty, guilty. 584 00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:26,260 Found guilty of murdering his wife on an African safari. 585 00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:29,350 Convicted of killing his wife while they vacationed in Africa. 586 00:36:29,350 --> 00:36:32,940 Now, Milliron was convicted of being an accessory to murder. 587 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:37,610 Dr. Rudolph faces up to life in prison at sentencing. His girlfriend faces up to... 588 00:36:37,610 --> 00:36:41,030 I never thought this would happen in a million years. 589 00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:46,740 What did those 12 people see that was so damaging 590 00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:49,080 that they all thought I was guilty? 591 00:36:49,580 --> 00:36:52,710 When he testified, I think that was the turning point for a lot of us. 592 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:58,790 A-A lot of this was circumstantial, um, until Larry got onto the stand. 593 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,050 For me it was Larry. 594 00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:03,590 Larry was Larry's downfall. 595 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,730 There just was not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. 596 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:16,350 We believe Larry was convicted because of the noise 597 00:37:16,350 --> 00:37:18,150 and not because of the evidence. 598 00:37:22,070 --> 00:37:27,280 Everybody at Safari Club was so happy that they came down with that verdict, 599 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,080 but it doesn't bring Bianca back. 600 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,670 Bianca got the verdict that she deserved to get. 601 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,880 Maybe now she can be at rest. 602 00:37:40,750 --> 00:37:45,880 I like him sitting in that jail cell and trying to learn some humility maybe. 603 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,600 It's Larry's world, and we're all just living in it. 604 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,600 That's exactly how he treated it. 605 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,230 Karma definitely is a bitch, and he got it. 606 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,400 He'll never get out of prison. 607 00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:00,440 When we heard, there was another party. 608 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,940 I mean, it's... We look for reasons for that and that was an easy one. 609 00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:08,360 Having been detained a night or two in my life, 610 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:14,120 my guess is he's not gonna be one of the guys who's running the posse in there. 611 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,420 Everyone knew in advance that Lawrence Rudolph was gonna get life 612 00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:23,670 because that's the penalty for foreign murder. 613 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:28,590 But for Lori Milliron, the penalty could have been anywhere from probation, 614 00:38:29,090 --> 00:38:31,470 all the way up to, you know, decades. 615 00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:36,770 We get into sentencing. She gets the opportunity to address the court, 616 00:38:36,770 --> 00:38:41,810 and what she tells everyone assembled there is that she's the victim 617 00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:44,780 of being prosecuted as part of this case. 618 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,660 And she expresses no remorse for anything that has happened, 619 00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:53,160 no remorse for Bianca's death, 620 00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:57,540 no remorse for the children and what they had to go through. 621 00:38:58,460 --> 00:39:00,630 This has been a waking nightmare. 622 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,840 I'm trying to deal with everything that we saw and process it 623 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,130 and move forward with my life, which has not been easy. 624 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,010 I'm brokenhearted. 625 00:39:09,010 --> 00:39:10,180 Me too, honey. 626 00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:12,100 Never gonna be the same. 627 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,930 I don't understand. 628 00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:16,470 Why did you love Lori 629 00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:19,640 more than you loved me and Mom and Julian? 630 00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:21,230 I don't, honey. 631 00:39:21,770 --> 00:39:25,070 Lori ruined our family. 632 00:39:26,070 --> 00:39:27,490 I didn't do anything. 633 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,280 And I, you know, I'm not violent. I didn't kill anybody, 634 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,950 didn't hurt anybody, but they really wanted to put me in jail. 635 00:39:38,370 --> 00:39:39,710 And they did. 636 00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:45,630 The judge gave her 17 years in federal prison. 637 00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:48,050 It's so outrageous. 638 00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:50,170 You know, most drug dealers these days-- 639 00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:53,220 even kingpins-- are not looking at the time in jail that she's looking at. 640 00:39:54,260 --> 00:39:56,140 She was being loyal to Larry. 641 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,220 She could have made up a story, 642 00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:02,350 but she was not interested in doing that because that wasn't what the truth was. 643 00:40:02,350 --> 00:40:05,860 So I think she was loyal to Larry, even probably to a fault. 644 00:40:08,110 --> 00:40:09,530 It makes no sense. 645 00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:14,910 I feel like that's the theme of everything that's happened. 646 00:40:14,910 --> 00:40:16,780 It does not make sense. 647 00:40:19,450 --> 00:40:20,540 Hello? 648 00:40:21,370 --> 00:40:23,210 Hey, babe. Oh, my God. 649 00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:25,670 I didn't even get say goodbye to you, 650 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:27,250 so I wanted to give you a call. 651 00:40:27,250 --> 00:40:29,710 I'm so sorry, honey. 652 00:40:29,710 --> 00:40:31,210 I am too, Lori. 653 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:32,420 You didn't do anything. 654 00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:33,510 You didn't need this. 655 00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:36,550 I know, neither did you. 656 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,390 Did she get excited about the wealth? 657 00:40:41,890 --> 00:40:44,940 Yeah, but I don't think she was an evil monster. 658 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:46,690 I think she was just lost. 659 00:40:50,530 --> 00:40:55,160 So maybe Larry gave her the attention that she probably didn't get from anybody. 660 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,120 Two innocent people. 661 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,580 I know. 662 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:09,210 When Lori Milliron met Lawrence Rudolph very early on in her career... 663 00:41:09,210 --> 00:41:10,920 Hi, I'm Dr. Larry Rudolph. 664 00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:13,630 ...they had found their match together. 665 00:41:15,550 --> 00:41:18,300 The two of them were kindred spirits. 666 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,310 I think the evidence is consistent with the idea that they loved each other, 667 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,310 that they wanted to be together, 668 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:31,610 that she knew about this and wanted it to happen. 669 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,240 I love you, and I just wanted to call one more time 670 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,240 and say goodbye. 671 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,910 I hope it's not goodbye. 672 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:47,920 It's goodbye. Yeah. 673 00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:15,360 To this day, Larry Rudolph is still receiving disability payments 674 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,070 related to that reported crocodile attack in 2006. 675 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:24,540 As a convicted felon, he's still getting money for this in jail? 676 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:25,830 Yes. Yes. 57265

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