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If you were to try to package intensity
and electricity and
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just pure explosiveness into one
package, that would have been the Macho
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Randy Savage.
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Oh, my God.
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Macho Man.
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It's a stick of dynamite. It is lit. The
fuse has gotten very short.
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A hundred percent of men will come at
you with a hundred percent. The macho
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Randy Savage. He was loud.
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The cream of the crop. He was colorful.
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He was intense.
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Oh, yeah.
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Miss Elizabeth was not.
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Elizabeth was an icon and a role model
for so many women. Her character was
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something that brought a lot of feeling
and emotion to the matches.
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Elizabeth, I love you.
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Randy Macho Man Savage and Miss
Elizabeth were wrestling royalty, and
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rollercoaster romance captivated
audiences around the world.
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It's Bonnie and Clyde, it's Romeo and
Juliet.
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They were the first, you know, male
-female package that was created in that
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WWF model.
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They were the first and they were the
best.
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Dysfunctional, as it may have been in
some respects, but I saw it.
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It's a love story.
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On this episode, Art imitates life as we
examine a fictional love story
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surrounding a real -life marriage that
explodes beyond the ring with tragic
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consequences.
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Well, first, actually, tell us who you
are.
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I don't want to do that. Okay.
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Look at how ripped I was. Look at that
belly. Good God.
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It's in fighting shape right there.
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My name is Bruce Pritchard, and I have
actually worked in the wrestling
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for about 45 years.
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First time I met Randy Savage was in
1987 in Houston, Texas.
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Randy got into the wrestling business.
He's a second -generation wrestler. His
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father, Angelo Poffo, was one of the
greats. And Angelo had a wrestling
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territory. It was considered...
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Back in the day in outlaw wrestling
territory.
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Can't do nothing against the macho man,
yeah. Number one professional wrestler.
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Complete mental insanity, yeah. What a
champion, Randy.
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You're going down in history as the
greatest. Yeah. The greatest. I also
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this chair by sitting down.
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Then all of a sudden, it's time for
Randy Savage to appear.
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Jimmy, baby, the best thing that you can
do is probably just stand back and let
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the macho man talk because there's
nothing that you could say that I
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say better myself.
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There was a period in the wrestling
business where if you were crazy on
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you were crazy off screen.
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You had to live your gimmick. And Randy
played crazy really well.
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He lived it 24 -7.
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Just... Personally, do you think it'd be
okay if I came out that Randy was a
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bedwetter?
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What was it like growing up with Randy
and the brother?
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He's the same as any other alpha male,
except his dial is not only past 10, but
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it's broken and it's gone off the
hinges.
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I was upstaged every day, but I knew it
was getting over, so I was proud to be
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holding the rope.
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He had a dream that he could be a
villain, a bad guy.
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a ruffian. He wanted to be an antagonist
because he felt he had more creativity
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than just being the pawn of the villain.
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Randy would take a lot of risks.
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He would say, yeah, stare into a candle
for two hours.
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Stare into a candle for about two hours
and cut my head together.
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Some people loved him, some people hated
him, but everybody respected him
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because when you see that kind of
athleticism, you have to buy into it.
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So this is my autograph table.
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Okay, this was another night where,
like, I think everybody was drinking too
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much red wine. And right here is that
little thing.
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Never know what he meant by it, but
that's what Macho carved into the table,
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he used to say, whatever it takes.
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I'm Linda Bollea, married to my ex
-husband, professional wrestler Hulk
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for 25 years.
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Oh, that was back when we loved each
other.
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In the olden days.
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So once I met Miss Elizabeth, we ended
up being friends because I was really
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only other female on the road.
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Elizabeth was from Frankfort, Kentucky.
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Good upbringing. She addressed her mom
as mother, and she said, we were broke.
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My dad left early. It was just me and my
mom and my brother, and money was
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always really tight.
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There was a gym called Sintay Sports
Center, and Randy worked out there, and
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then one fine day...
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A new girl came, and that was Elizabeth
Hewlett. And she said Randy was in the
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gym about 6 in the morning, and she's
working the front desk.
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And he comes in, and she goes, oh, my,
your eyes are so red.
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And he goes, you should see them from
this side.
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And I looked at Liz and said, that did
it for you? That one line, like, reels
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you in?
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My name is Scott Oliver Hall.
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I also was wrestled as Razor Ramon, the
bad guy.
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I don't know. If I was a chick, I'd have
banged Randy. I thought he was cool as
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hell.
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Randy would always tell the story that
it was love at first sight.
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Yeah, she saw me and fell in love.
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What more could she want?
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Liz would always be like, eh, it took a
little while to get used to it.
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She was beautiful, she was phenomenal,
and she was excellent.
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What a nice person, too.
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And I think that came across on
television.
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Elizabeth got involved in ICW as an
announcer, and she also helped with the
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editing. Because it was a mom -and -pop
shop, we did everything.
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And she was adaptable and brilliant and
very quick to learn.
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Their first wedding was in Frankfort,
Kentucky, at the home of Elizabeth's
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mother.
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And that was about six months before
Randy made his debut with WWE.
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All right, this is going to be a Jimmy
Hart one. Here we go.
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He's a mouth of the towel, Jimmy Hart.
The sun is shining. Life is great.
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There's Randy and myself and Hulk and
WCW when I managed them for a few
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The rest was history. He goes, how's New
York? I said, it's great. I said, look,
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they just saw your tapes.
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They want you in New York. The module
man, Randy Savage, who is quite a
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competitor, making his World Wrestling
Federation debut.
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Vince and Linda McMahon had come down to
Florida to...
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Get the contract signed before
WrestleMania 1.
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Is that Vince?
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Oh, my gosh.
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Whoa. When Vince took over, he went
around every territory and took the very
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best of what was available. He made you
bigger than life.
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Vince was taking it to a whole
completely new level that none of us
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ready for or even knew about or used to.
And we were all in for a big, huge
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learning curve. You know, when Macho
came on board, Vince was like, well, you
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know, we really want your character to
have a valet, a woman, a manager.
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I think Randy probably just sat down and
said, look, you know, I want to come up
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here and I think I can make you money in
the territory.
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Can we work a spot out for Liz? Because
she's going to go with me on the road.
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She's going to be with me.
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Randy, if he loves somebody, whether it
was his brother or whether it was Liz or
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whoever, he was going to be very loyal
to them.
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And we've got to know who the manager is
going to be.
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They fell in love with her as soon as
she opened up the door and stepped into
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wrestling history.
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Oh,
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my.
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Liz was very demure, very quiet, gentle
soul.
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The person and the character were really
one and the same. As far as the...
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persona of the macho man and the package
of the macho man and miss elizabeth was
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they were two opposites and randy so
intense and elizabeth so subdued they
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wanted you to love elizabeth and hate
randy picture of elizabeth no picture of
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the macho man that's very very very bad
elizabeth randy would have bring her out
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She'd stand at ringside, he'd get in the
ring, he'd circle around, then he'd get
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out. No, I told you to stand here.
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And people were hating Randy just for
browbeating the beautiful young girl.
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Like, you could do better than him,
honey, get away from him.
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And there would be times that Randy
would give Liz a look and just turn his
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and give her those eyes, and she would
almost be subservient.
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Macho man Randy Savage, isn't that
right, Liz?
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That's right, Randy.
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Shut up and keep piloting. If I lose
tonight, it's your fault. Each time he
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it, they'd say, oh, you sorry son of a,
you know, and that's exactly what they
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wanted. And you want Liz to see the
light, but Liz, underneath this, you're
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seeing, man, she loves her man.
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And you infer that Randy mistreats her,
but he never really does.
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He's just a little intense.
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By the spring of 1987, Elizabeth and
Randy are red hot and are about to make
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history in front of a record -breaking
crowd of 93 ,000 fans.
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WrestleMania III was, at the time, the
largest indoor attendance record. I
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the largest gathering indoor of any
event in the world.
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Oh, Jesus.
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It's unbelievable, man.
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90 ,000 people.
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I had Alice Cooper with me. I mean, the
electricity from the crowd was just
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unbelievable.
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I mean, your skin is crawling.
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It feels like your hair is growing.
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The Randy Savage, Ricky Steamboat match,
WrestleMania 3, I think a lot of people
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consider one of the greatest matches of
all time.
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Two of the greatest athletes that I have
ever seen in my life.
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All that athleticism, all the drama, all
that excitement, it killed him that he
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could never surpass that match. He was a
perfectionist, and perfectionists are
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never happy.
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The thing with Savage, I learned later
on, of course, when I started working
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with Savage, was trying to hold him
down.
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Because he always wanted to give more.
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Well, sometimes you can give too much.
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Two years after their debut, Randy and
Elizabeth are taking the WWF by storm.
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But a surprising twist in their
storyline would propel them to the top
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wrestling world.
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I pulled out a bunch of pictures I tried
to find that had Liz and Randy. This is
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sweet.
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This was just at the condo. We were just
hanging out in Florida.
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Polaroid picture.
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Macho. Little picture of Elizabeth.
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So sweet.
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So Macho Man, he always kept Elizabeth
in the dressing room, so nobody really
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knew her.
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Then one night, Macho came into our
dressing room and said, Where's Linda?
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And Liz needs some help with her hair.
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And she had her hair kind of, like,
coiffed and tightly curled, and it was
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sort of church girl. And I said, bitch,
you need to just bring that stuff out,
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you know? And so I started, like,
getting her hair teased up and kind of
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it out. She's like, oh, yeah, I like
that.
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Once we all realized that, hey, I live
in Tampa. Oh, you live in Tampa? Yeah, I
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live in Kluwer. I live in Largo.
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We all kind of lived in this area, so we
thought, hey, let's all get together.
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It was nice because when we did get a
few days off, I could call on her and
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could call on me and we could either go
shopping or we could hit the beach.
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And it was just great because at least
you had somebody to do something with.
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Hulk would have big parties over there
and invite everybody, you know, and
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and Liz would go to it.
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And it seems like that's when she was
the most happiest, when she could be out
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around the people and kind of be
herself.
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You know, we'd be barbecuing in the
backyard the weekend before. Terry would
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always, like, kind of lay it out. Here's
how I want to run it. And then Randy
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would throw in some ideas, you know, and
Liz would always just go along with
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whatever, talking about the angle.
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The hotter the heel and people after a
while will begin to respect you. And
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Randy was so good.
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He was hard to boo.
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The audience liked him, and it was hard
to ignore.
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Randy Savage was really catching on as a
babyface, and people had grown to
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really love the Macho Man.
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By the end of 1987, the fans' love for
Randy Savage inspires a revelation in
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Vince McMahon, a partnership with the
company's top hero to create a team
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anything pro wrestling has ever seen.
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The two biggest names in the wrestling
business at that time. Going to combine
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forces. You know, the madness in
Hulkamania combining forces, brother.
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With the madness and the maniac mega
powers, yeah.
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I mean, who's going to match up against
them?
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By the summer of 1988, Hogan and Savage
with Elizabeth as their manager appear
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invincible. They've destroyed all
challengers and the only place left to
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on each other. What we knew is that we
would have the mega powers explode. You
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create the mega powers for the mega
powers to explode.
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Especially when one is a paranoid
schizophrenic and the other is the all
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-American dude.
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And what is the easiest thing for two
men to argue?
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A woman.
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SummerSlam 80.
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Randy hoists Liz up on his shoulder and
goes around. And when he does, there's
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like a little slip.
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Hulk puts his hand up, steadier.
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Freeze it! Look at how long his hand is
on Elizabeth.
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Nobody touch you.
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Uh -oh. There was Hulk. Say your
prayers. Take your vitamin.
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You know, here's the American flag. And
here's Randy going, you know, I don't
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think you're as truthful as everybody
thinks you really are.
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They don't realize that underneath, he's
been boiling.
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You got luck. You really hit in your
black heart for Elizabeth.
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Randy is the jealous, raving lunatic,
and Hulk is the best friend who's trying
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to screw his best friend's girl.
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Picked her up and put Elizabeth where
she has never been before, on top of
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another man's shoulder.
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It's easy for him to blow it out of
proportion because you can tell the
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side of him.
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He's blinded by love and he's blinded by
rage.
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He's paranoid.
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He's got the championship. He's got the
whole world on his back.
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So, of course, everybody's trying to
knock him off.
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Even his best friend. His best friend's
not only trying to knock him off, he's
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trying to take my girl.
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They were really playing off of Randy's
paranoia, and it was real. So that's
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what made it really work.
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The Twin Towers, Big Boss Man, and
Akeem, again, you know, Randy and Hulk,
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mega powers. But there was a point in
the match where Randy took a bump out
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ended up taking Liz out.
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Hulk sees that she's hurt, carries her
back to get her help.
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You're hovering over, over the bed. How
dare you?
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I'm out there fighting for my life.
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But you're more concerned about her. It
all makes sense now.
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When you take a look at the madness's
eyes, all you're going to see is
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and utter rage.
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Match made.
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What corner is Elizabeth going to be in?
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Well, a lot of people wondered, did
Randy really control her in and out of
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ring? Absolutely.
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Randy.
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Very protective of my God.
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You have no idea.
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And he would get visibly upset with
anybody that tried to talk to her or
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on a conversation with her. He just did
not like it. When they would be getting
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ready for an event, we didn't want any
malfunctions. The wardrobe, though, he
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would literally take the tape.
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and, like, wrap it all around her whole
body. And then the other big thing was,
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because she was always in a short dress,
was getting into the ring and entering
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the ring over the robe. And was she
going to go over the second robe? Should
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go under it?
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This was all a big, huge thing for Randy
because this was his wife. He loved and
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respected her, and he didn't want
anybody to be making fun of her. He was
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definitely in charge of that
relationship, and she was just the tag
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I think that that started to grow on
her. I think that started to just
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her. That may have been where a lot of
the rules would start.
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In so many of five, are you going to be
a Lomato man?
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Randy Savage is cornered. When you take
real -life situations and you put it in
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front of the camera, it's great because
it's usually very relatable.
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No! No!
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However, when you take your real -life
feelings and you put them on camera and
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you make it a part of a storyline, they
don't know you.
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They don't know what you guys do when
the doors shut at night. They have no
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clue.
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But... They know you're really married
and they know what you said on TV, you
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sorry son of a bitch.
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Like imitating art?
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And sometimes art imitates life.
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And then you get really... Being
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on the road 24 -7 with your spouse, it's
not an easy task. You know, Elizabeth,
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as his wife, had those same duties as I
did.
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I did travel with Randy and Liz a lot,
and their relationship was that of a
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married couple on the road. They didn't
go out and party, went back to the room,
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went to bed, and they had their privacy.
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You'd get back to the room, and she
would have to scrub the blood off the
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like I did to have to tarry from their
wrestling match.
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You know, you'd put the wrestling boots
in the bathtub of the hotel and wash
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them off, get all the blood off, because
they had to wear them the next night.
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And I'm sure he probably wanted to get
laid, and I'm sure she probably didn't.
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You know, and maybe she did and he
didn't. Then her, unlike me, she has to
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about herself.
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What the hell dress is she going to
wear?
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I had my wife involved for a while, man,
and it's brutal, man, having your wife
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around the guys.
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They did practical jokes that were
cruel.
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I'm telling you, they used people's
suitcases as toilets.
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There were no boundaries. That was the
problem with me. You know, cutting
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somebody's hair off while they're passed
out.
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I mean, I wouldn't want my wife around
that shit.
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The pattern seemed to be that Randy
wanted to keep Elizabeth away from the
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as much as possible. I don't blame him,
really.
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Randy being so intense and being so
watchful over her, she couldn't have
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freedom. And I think you can't smother
somebody all the time like that.
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Elizabeth wanted to leave the road.
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and she wanted Randy to quit. Randy
wasn't done yet. Randy was still
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it. I knew she needed to have more
socialization and more friends, and she
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missed having the normal life, but Liz
apparently was looking for something
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than that. Then I realized it's time.
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By 1990, an exhausted Elizabeth asked
for some time off the road, and the WWF
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sees this as an opportunity to reinvent
the Macho Man into a new.
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kind of villain we did randy as the heel
we made randy the macho king and
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thought that sensational sherry to be
his manager another female and make the
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queen sherry was a women's wrestler and
the guys loved working with sherry
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because she could take it she was tough
as nails queen sherry has a whole new
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dimension to the macho man's character
but the fans demand to see wrestling
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first lady back in her rightful place
Every day that Randy spent with Sherry,
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everybody said, let's bring Elizabeth.
Where's Elizabeth? Where's Elizabeth? I
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mean, the people hungered for Elizabeth.
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Going into WrestleMania, Randy was
looking to take the summer off. He and
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were looking to spend time together as
husband and wife, not being on the road
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all the time. So the idea was
WrestleMania 7 have a career match with
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Ultimate Warrior.
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If Boyer lost, he was gone. If Randy
lost, he was gone.
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We had shown earlier in the night that
in attendance that night was Elizabeth
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the crowd, sitting like in the fourth
row. And when Sherry started to kick
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and go after Randy, Liz made her way to
the ring and pulled Sherry off. And, you
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know, they're fighting for a man. And
people are slowly applauding, and you
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grown men with tears in their eyes.
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That's emotional. That's good stuff. We
got them.
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Because they felt it, and people could
feel that too, getting back together,
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getting back to the one you really love.
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Elizabeth, will you marry me?
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Despite being married in real life for
seven years, which was kept secret from
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fans, Randy and Elizabeth's characters
finally tied the knot on live television
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on August 26, 1991.
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And they were excited. I mean, they were
like two kids planning for their
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wedding. I think it was just the first
time you ever saw the macho man break
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down and have a human emotion other than
anger. You saw him actually happy, and
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you saw him emotionally care for someone
outwardly, which you had never seen
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before.
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Liz and Randy are having this beautiful
wedding ceremony.
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Now cue the devil.
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And did the reception and bullshit.
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Put the snake in the box and all that
crap.
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And I got it started and I kicked it
off.
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14, 15 foot king cobra.
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Look at that son of a bitch.
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A beautiful, beautiful animal.
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Randy came to me and said, so tonight I
hear we're going to do something a
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little different.
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I'm like, yeah, man, the snake's biting
you. He's like, yeah.
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Has the snake been fixed?
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Yeah. It's a cobra, you dumb shit. Of
course it's been fixed.
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Maybe it has and maybe it hasn't.
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How about the snake biting you first?
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What? You, man. Oh,
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you don't want it to bite you?
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Because if you won't let the snake bite
you, that tells me it hasn't been fixed.
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He's dead serious, man, so...
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I went and got the snake, rolled up my
pants leg, and let it bite me.
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And he's like, don't move, don't take no
pills, don't take no antidote, don't
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take no serums, no nothing, brother.
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For like 20 minutes, man, he's like, I'm
going to get you okay.
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How do you feel, man? I'm pissed off
right now, to be honest with you. So it
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time for that snake to bite him. I got
the snake out and turned my back to him,
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and I paintbrushed the shit out of that
snake.
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pissed it off.
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And then whenever I turned around, that
snake was just, you know, he was ready.
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And I got him close to Randy and he
latched on and would not let go.
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I mean, the time that you see it on
television was nothing to the real time.
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It went on forever.
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Vince wound up sending a list of it
down.
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Get the snake off of it. Get it off of
it, Vince, now.
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I'm like, I'm...
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Trying. And I'm pulling on the snake and
it wouldn't let go.
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It's just chewing on it.
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And it's like anything else. First time
it's ever been done. Shocks people, man.
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The visual, you know.
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Bottom line is nobody ever felt sorry
for Randy. They felt sorry for her.
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And it's not a good situation like with
me whenever I slapped Elizabeth.
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And then they tried to go home to see
her family.
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Grandpa meets him on the porch and says,
you're not coming in this house, boy.
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He promised us he'd always protect our
little girl.
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The only way he could gain access back
into their home was basically kicking my
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ass and getting even, so to speak.
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These are Tennessee folks, bro.
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You know, wrestling's real. People are
fake.
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What was the state of their relationship
at the time that they were getting
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married again? I would say tumultuous.
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I'm the verge of breaking up.
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So, Terry had been cast in a movie
called Mr. Nanny.
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It required us to be down in Miami for
about eight weeks. So, Liz called and
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goes, when are you going to be back
home? And I said, I'm going back the
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week. She's like, oh.
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She's like, Randy, can I please go? I
heard her talking to him on the back of
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the phone. She's like, can I please go?
I want to go help Linda with the kids. I
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just want to go see them and hang out
with Nick and Brooke in the pool and
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stuff. And he's like, well, only if
you're going to be babysitting and
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going to be with Linda.
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She flew down with us. It was so much
fun. She helped me unload the kids.
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We got the toys. We were hanging out.
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We're all going to go out to dinner, you
know. I said, so I'll just go get
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ready, do whatever, come back from your
workout or whatever.
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And 7 .30, I'm thinking, like, aren't we
going to do our makeup together and our
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hair together, which is what we always
did. So I'm kind of, like, knocking on
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her door, and I see the light is on.
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I can see under the door, but she's not
answering.
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In 1992, leaving her husband Randy
Savage behind, Elizabeth travels alone
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Miami to stay with Hulk Hogan and his
wife Linda.
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Terry had to film the next morning, and
the whole next day goes on, and I see
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00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:36,950
her at the pool. I'm like, Liz, where
were you?
425
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:40,910
You know, we were worried about you. And
she's like, oh, well, I met this other
426
00:25:40,910 --> 00:25:44,430
gentleman that lives in the building,
and he has an extra room here in the
427
00:25:44,430 --> 00:25:46,930
building, and he thought maybe I'd want
to take it.
428
00:25:47,550 --> 00:25:50,670
The way I heard the story was that Liz
wanted away from Randy.
429
00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:55,640
And so she contacted Hulk's wife, Linda,
and went and stayed with them.
430
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,080
Now, meanwhile, Randy is freaking out
because he doesn't know where the love
431
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,080
his life is.
432
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,260
Randy kept calling my room, wanting to
talk to Liz.
433
00:26:06,020 --> 00:26:07,720
And I was like, Liz is not here.
434
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,760
I didn't say she had her own room. I
just said, she's not here. I think she's
435
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,400
with friends or something like that. He
goes, well, where is she? I was like,
436
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,440
she's not here. She's not here.
437
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,320
Randy was like, I'm going to fly down.
438
00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:21,270
You know, don't tell her because I don't
like this. You know, she's never like
439
00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:25,350
missed my calls and she should be
answering or she should at least be
440
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:30,850
back. Three hours later, he lands, comes
in blazing in the door, blazing, guns
441
00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:32,870
fired, looking for Liz.
442
00:26:33,130 --> 00:26:35,010
And I'm sitting there and he's like,
where's Liz?
443
00:26:36,430 --> 00:26:38,650
I was like, Randy, look, I don't know.
444
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:40,610
He's like, what?
445
00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:42,990
You know, where do you think she is?
446
00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:45,330
You know, who was she with last?
447
00:26:45,790 --> 00:26:46,970
What did you guys do?
448
00:26:47,210 --> 00:26:48,550
I'm going to go find Liz.
449
00:26:48,830 --> 00:26:50,930
And I want you sitting here in the
chair.
450
00:26:51,130 --> 00:26:54,790
And if you so much as leave this chair
and you smarten her up and tell her that
451
00:26:54,790 --> 00:26:58,350
I'm here looking for her, you're going
to hear about it. I'd never seen Randy
452
00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:01,830
like this before in my life because I'd
never even seen him argue or fight.
453
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:03,670
Seriously, I really hadn't.
454
00:27:03,910 --> 00:27:06,710
So him and Terry went out the door
and...
455
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:10,320
I didn't know what was going on. I just
knew I wasn't leaving the chair. And I
456
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,320
guess he found her.
457
00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:14,940
Terry came back to the room and said, I
left them on their own. They're sorting
458
00:27:14,940 --> 00:27:18,440
it out. So they got in their rental car
and they drove back home. And he
459
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,540
basically told Terry in so many words or
less, like, Liz is not coming back to
460
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:25,520
Miami. And there's no more hanging out.
Party's over. This is ridiculous.
461
00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:30,720
She just went too crazy, you know. I
think Randy felt, you know, again, life
462
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,760
imitating art, that Hulk was taking
Liz's side.
463
00:27:35,550 --> 00:27:38,430
Well, that was the beginning of the end
for them, but the beginning of the end
464
00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:42,570
for Randy and Hulk, too, because Randy
always thought that Hulk had something
465
00:27:42,570 --> 00:27:43,469
do with it.
466
00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:47,390
I've been Hulk for 39 years. Hulk had
nothing to do with that. He was shooting
467
00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:48,390
the dadgum movie.
468
00:27:48,530 --> 00:27:53,950
I think that when you separate and,
like, she's at home and he's on the
469
00:27:54,110 --> 00:27:59,550
that all of a sudden it's a newfound
freedom, and that's a whole brand -new
470
00:27:59,550 --> 00:28:00,550
on both parts.
471
00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:04,130
You know, it's just a normal day. I was
just home with the kids.
472
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,540
Beautiful day out. And this is probably
like five, six weeks after we wrapped
473
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:10,760
filming and we left Miami.
474
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,880
You know, hard line phones. I'm in the
kitchen. I'm giving Nick a bottle or
475
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,220
whatever. And Liz, I'm like, hey, Liz.
God, I miss you. How are you? You know?
476
00:28:21,220 --> 00:28:23,960
And it was like dead silent on the other
end of the phone.
477
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:25,180
I was like, Liz?
478
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,640
She's like, Linda?
479
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,640
I left Randy.
480
00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:36,680
I was listening to her, and she sounded
like she was at a gas station or
481
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,340
something, like your car is going by on
the freeway, you know. I was like, oh,
482
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,400
my God. She goes, I'm done. I left him.
483
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,060
And I said, oh, my God. I said, are you
home? Can I come help you? Can I talk to
484
00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:47,320
you? I was like, I need to talk some
sense to this girl, you know.
485
00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:51,300
And she wasn't home. She goes, nope, I'm
halfway to Miami. I'm going back.
486
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,100
I met some people there, and I've got a
place to stay.
487
00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:59,000
She goes, promise me you don't tell
Randy that I'm on the road.
488
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,980
She had a convertible little red
Cadillac.
489
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,220
The mental picture in my mind was her
like a country music video or something
490
00:29:07,220 --> 00:29:10,680
with two suitcases in the back of her
just driving her convertible down to
491
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,460
with the wind blowing through her hair.
492
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Probably feeling free and relieved the
constant submission that Randy had on
493
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,040
her. And it wasn't that he was trying to
do it out of being mean or anything. It
494
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,980
was his protective way, but she had just
had enough of that suppression.
495
00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:33,880
When Randy and Liz split up, You could
tell there was a change in the macho
496
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,960
You know, he was a little drawn back.
497
00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:40,040
He really wasn't as intense as he was
when they were together.
498
00:29:40,460 --> 00:29:46,320
Once he was gone, he really kind of just
went silent. He lost all,
499
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:51,680
he didn't really care about the
business. You know, it was like the
500
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,180
on, but nobody's home. Sad, but yet
there was that exterior that was, okay,
501
00:29:57,180 --> 00:29:57,959
got to move on.
502
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,580
I think Randy was tormented.
503
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,300
You know, I mean, he had all the money,
all the stuff and all that, but he
504
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:08,100
always was never, I don't know, he was
always so wound up. And I'm thinking,
505
00:30:08,180 --> 00:30:09,620
Mach, like, you've made it, bro.
506
00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:13,700
Like, what's missing? Like, what's it
going to take to make you happy?
507
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:20,840
One day, we were sitting in the car,
waiting for Vince to come down, take him
508
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:26,040
forever. And Vince gets in the car and
shuts the door and says, Gentlemen,
509
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,880
Savage is now the proud property of
World Championship Wrestling.
510
00:30:31,659 --> 00:30:36,240
And we're like, what happened?
511
00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:48,600
WCW was owned by Ted Turner, competition
to the WWF. Ted Turner had started
512
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,420
to try and lure talent from the WWF over
to WCW.
513
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,620
Hulk Hogan was the first talent.
514
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,720
That made the big jump. The Macho Man,
Randy Savage, he's interested in coming
515
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,420
over. Because in WWE, Randy had been put
out to pasture by Vince McMahon.
516
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,080
Vince McMahon basically said, Randy,
you're too old. Your gimmick's over.
517
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,059
stick is done.
518
00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:15,120
You're going to be a color commentator.
And that hurt Randy. I didn't want to
519
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,740
reinvent a wheel that I believed already
worked.
520
00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:21,060
And by the way, when Randy Savage came
over...
521
00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:29,560
$750 ,000 a year of Slim Jim money came
with him.
522
00:31:29,860 --> 00:31:33,940
And Slim Jim wasn't interested in
changing Randy Savage.
523
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,260
WCW has given the macho man a renewed
career, but his protective nature won't
524
00:31:39,260 --> 00:31:41,320
allow him to leave his one true love
behind.
525
00:31:41,740 --> 00:31:45,760
Randy called her up and said, come on
in, you can be a part of the storyline,
526
00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:50,340
make some money. He's divorced from
Elizabeth at this point, but cares about
527
00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:53,220
enough that he gets her a $250 ,000 a
year contract.
528
00:31:53,770 --> 00:31:56,770
Just to kind of stand around and look
pretty. She wasn't even on camera much.
529
00:31:57,130 --> 00:31:58,610
But he wanted her looked after.
530
00:31:58,930 --> 00:32:02,510
Except this time, she was the villain
and Randy was the baby fake. It was
531
00:32:02,510 --> 00:32:07,390
perfect. She had changed so much. She
wasn't like the same little quiet girl I
532
00:32:07,390 --> 00:32:10,970
remember. She was more talkative. So I
said, well, what's happening? I go, were
533
00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:11,809
you dating anybody?
534
00:32:11,810 --> 00:32:15,390
She goes, well, I'm kind of like seeing
Lex.
535
00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:19,610
And I go, you're like seeing Lex. I go,
Lex is married.
536
00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:21,470
And she goes, I know.
537
00:32:21,930 --> 00:32:22,930
That's the problem.
538
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,320
I go, that's not good.
539
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,980
Lex Luger was oftentimes considered, you
know, the second coming of Hulk Hogan.
540
00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:36,660
Lex had a million -dollar body, and he
had a great look.
541
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:42,040
Lex Luger is one of the top names ever
in the professional wrestling industry.
542
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:48,380
He's easy to hate because it's like
there's nothing wrong with him. She was
543
00:32:48,380 --> 00:32:49,860
over heels over him.
544
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,280
I could tell that.
545
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,860
Paired together as part of a wrestling
storyline, Elizabeth and Lex Luger's
546
00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:59,380
professional relationship evolves into a
secret love affair.
547
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,260
They were a very happy couple. They'd go
work out in the gym together. They
548
00:33:03,260 --> 00:33:04,560
would spend a lot of time together.
549
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:08,180
They were being a little bit sneaky with
the joining rooms and stuff.
550
00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:11,660
And I guess you can't help who you're
attracted to and who you fall in love
551
00:33:11,660 --> 00:33:14,980
with. And I always liked Lex and I
always liked Liz. And hey, if you guys
552
00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:19,960
each other happy, go for it. So when the
idea started bouncing around about...
553
00:33:21,090 --> 00:33:25,470
Blurring the lines, if you will, between
scripted and reality with regard to
554
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:29,230
Elizabeth's relationship with Randy and
their marriage and their divorce.
555
00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:36,490
I was really shocked at first
556
00:33:36,490 --> 00:33:38,830
that Randy would entertain some of those
ideas.
557
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,780
He was still very protective of
Elizabeth, but in a much different way.
558
00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:53,400
watched Lex like a hawk. It wasn't just
that they were in a relationship.
559
00:33:53,620 --> 00:33:55,620
Lex was married and had kids.
560
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,000
Everybody knows that that's going to end
badly one way or the other.
561
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,480
Where are you living? Do you have an
apartment or whatever? She's like, no,
562
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,660
got another place. He's keeping me in,
but the weird thing is that it's in the
563
00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:09,400
same complex as where he and his wife
live. I go, oh.
564
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:11,639
I said, this is not good.
565
00:34:12,340 --> 00:34:14,080
It was pretty apparent also that
566
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:19,260
They were both, um, they were pilled up.
567
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,420
They were just spending too much time
doing too many drugs.
568
00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:29,100
I've never witnessed her doing any kind
of drugs or pills, and in fact, when
569
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:33,699
we'd go out and drink, she'd have two
glasses of wine, and she'd be already,
570
00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:37,840
like, feeling it. I'm like, oh, time to
go home, you know? Thing is, Liz doesn't
571
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,840
weigh 270 like me and Lex.
572
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,480
Liz weighs about 85 pounds.
573
00:34:43,469 --> 00:34:48,030
So she's taking the same amount of pills
that the 300 -pounder's taking. You
574
00:34:48,030 --> 00:34:52,969
know, they had some kind of a fight, and
she fell down the stairs, and she ended
575
00:34:52,969 --> 00:34:54,210
up with two black eyes.
576
00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:59,050
In April of 2003, squad cars respond to
a domestic disturbance at the home of
577
00:34:59,050 --> 00:34:59,928
Lex Luger.
578
00:34:59,930 --> 00:35:03,250
Upon their arrival, the police notice
Elizabeth has bruised eyes.
579
00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:07,290
At first, she denies the injuries are
from Luger, but she eventually admits to
580
00:35:07,290 --> 00:35:08,610
the authorities that he did hit her.
581
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:11,950
Luger was charged with misdemeanor count
of battery and released on bail.
582
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,780
I thought falling down the stairs gave
her two black eyes.
583
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:23,220
Talk about the idea of getting Lex Luger
on your podcast and talk about that
584
00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:28,600
process and what you want to talk to him
about. When Nick, my producer and co
585
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:34,280
-host, suggested that we bring Lex on,
you know, I had mixed emotions because I
586
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:40,020
still, honestly, Lex, I'm sorry, but I
still had some resentment.
587
00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:46,830
during the time we were making the call.
But Lex rose to the occasion. He was
588
00:35:46,830 --> 00:35:48,170
brutally honest.
589
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:50,610
I'll never forget.
590
00:35:53,450 --> 00:35:56,090
It was actually early morning hours.
591
00:35:56,830 --> 00:36:01,570
We were having just an evening watching
movies together and kicking back and
592
00:36:01,570 --> 00:36:08,310
sipping on some vodka and popping pills.
And literally before
593
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:09,490
the 911 call,
594
00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:12,010
I realized she had stopped breathing.
595
00:36:12,490 --> 00:36:16,430
Okay, what I want you to do, I want you
to go over and see if she's breathing.
596
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:20,730
Please send somebody here so we know
what they're doing.
597
00:36:21,130 --> 00:36:26,070
I understand that, sir. I have somebody
on the way. But if she's not breathing,
598
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:28,010
you need to help her breathe.
599
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:30,790
You need to find out whether or not
she's breathing.
600
00:36:31,090 --> 00:36:33,790
Go over to her, sir.
601
00:36:34,350 --> 00:36:35,350
Oh, my God.
602
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:39,510
Lay down and check to see if she's
breathing. Look at her chest.
603
00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:48,300
Terry called me and he just said, you
know, really, really bad news.
604
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,760
Liz is dead.
605
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,160
And, like, when he said that, I just
felt like somebody poured a bucket of
606
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:55,959
on me.
607
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,660
Oh, I was at home in Atlanta.
608
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,680
Heard it on the morning news.
609
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,680
I was pissed.
610
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:08,880
I was pissed because I saw Lex.
611
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,540
manipulating and exploiting a vulnerable
person and using prescription drugs to
612
00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:18,279
do it.
613
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,880
They told me that Elizabeth had just
passed. I thought she was going to make
614
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,120
and she was going to go to the hospital
and regret that she didn't make it. And
615
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,640
then I was arrested on, I think, 17
felony counts and all the drugs they
616
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,379
in my house.
617
00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:35,960
I thought I had the drugs under control,
but I ended up getting control of
618
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,720
Elizabeth and I. The tragedy of that...
619
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,540
To witness that firsthand, it was a very
dark time, without a doubt.
620
00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:49,160
I knew he was telling the truth. I knew
he was being honest and accepting
621
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,380
responsibility. I look at him so
differently now.
622
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,980
I respect him.
623
00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:58,600
I never thought I'd hear myself say.
624
00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:02,800
I want to ask you about, you know, Miss
Elizabeth, you know, her loss and
625
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,800
everything.
626
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:06,480
Earlier in your career, you guys...
627
00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:11,690
helped each other out in your careers
yeah we were actually married and we got
628
00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:15,390
divorce like which happens in life
sometimes and we had separation we had
629
00:38:15,390 --> 00:38:21,490
closure but i really feel real bad for
her and her family and uh situation
630
00:38:21,490 --> 00:38:25,250
we hadn't seen each other in about maybe
five six years but you know we had
631
00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:29,110
closure and we said hello and everything
was all good but i feel bad for her
632
00:38:29,110 --> 00:38:34,280
family elizabeth tragically passed away
at the age of 42 But grieving fans would
633
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,360
have no idea that this epic saga was
approaching its final chapter.
634
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:50,100
This is my brother getting married for
the second time to the lovely Lynn Payne
635
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:55,660
Poffel. In 2010, seven years after
Elizabeth's death, Randy Savage finds
636
00:38:55,660 --> 00:38:56,660
once again.
637
00:38:57,430 --> 00:39:00,930
He, you know, weathered the storm
through his divorce, and he was finally
638
00:39:00,930 --> 00:39:07,170
of on his feet. He was remarried and
just starting to kind of really enjoy
639
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:12,030
life. When Randy retired from wrestling,
he was able to devote a lot of his time
640
00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:18,690
to the Special Olympics. That was his
passion, and he enjoyed his final years
641
00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:22,590
as a sedentary person. I was supposed to
go to San Jose, California.
642
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,040
American Airlines stopped in Dallas.
643
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:30,060
I turned on my phone and there was a
message on there and it said, this is
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Medical, your brother and his wife were
in a...
645
00:39:35,399 --> 00:39:36,399
automobile accident.
646
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,300
And she's banged up and your brother's
in critical condition. But the way they
647
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:45,060
said it, I knew. I got a phone call
early that morning from Lanny Papa.
648
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,640
yeah, Lanny, I hadn't had time to call
yet because it's early. He goes, no,
649
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,060
listen, I'm coming back home. Why? And I
could tell his voice was really shaky.
650
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,480
He goes, what? He goes, I just got a
phone call.
651
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,420
He said, my brother just got killed.
652
00:39:56,830 --> 00:40:00,530
We want to share some breaking news with
you now regarding Randy Macho Man
653
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Savage. You may know him well. He is a
pro wrestler.
654
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:09,390
We have just confirmed that Randy Macho
Man Savage has died. Coming from the
655
00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:11,610
Florida Highway Patrol, there was a car
accident.
656
00:40:11,950 --> 00:40:16,310
I was literally on my way to the airport
to leave Clearwater when I got the
657
00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:18,090
phone call from Hulk or Terry.
658
00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:22,810
He crashed into a tree and died as a
result of a heart attack.
659
00:40:23,950 --> 00:40:26,650
It's hard to believe. Even now, sitting
here doing this interview, it's hard to
660
00:40:26,650 --> 00:40:30,750
believe it's true because he was so full
of life. He was so full of energy,
661
00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:34,210
brother. It's hard to imagine that he's
not here, really.
662
00:40:36,570 --> 00:40:41,970
We're going to the site where my brother
lost control, and you're going to see
663
00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:45,550
the tree. They've still got a few
flowers, although they've taken some of
664
00:40:45,550 --> 00:40:48,210
down. It's been seven years, you know.
665
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:04,700
I judge people by the way, for example,
Randy treated my kids. Oh, and that was
666
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:07,480
it for me. If I start thinking about
that too much, I'll cry.
667
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,960
He went out of his way to be really,
really good to kids, and that's how I
668
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,960
people.
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00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:20,340
He loved Brooke, and he loved kids. I'm
sure he probably would have said yes at
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00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:24,180
any time and loved to have kids with
Liz. I think it's a shame Liz isn't in
671
00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:25,180
Hall of Fame.
672
00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:29,720
I think that she was called the first
lady of wrestling for a reason. She was
673
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:36,640
the first significant female star who
never wrestled. Because he had her at
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00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,660
side made him even more special because
she was the special.
675
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:48,120
She was the first female that was
depicted in a powerful role. She was
676
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,960
beautiful, quiet, but she was class.
677
00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:52,220
Elizabeth was class.
678
00:41:52,570 --> 00:41:58,630
Maybe a boy named Timmy would come up
with his father, and they'd say, May I
679
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:59,630
have your autograph, sir?
680
00:42:00,570 --> 00:42:03,430
He'd say, Oh, yeah, here's the deal.
681
00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:07,970
Timmy, I'm going to sign your autograph,
but you've got to do something for me.
682
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:09,790
Well, what's that?
683
00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:12,750
How are you doing in school, Timmy?
684
00:42:12,990 --> 00:42:16,330
How are you doing in school? Are you
doing your best? Because, Timmy, I'm
685
00:42:16,330 --> 00:42:17,330
to sign your autograph.
686
00:42:18,250 --> 00:42:21,990
But if you don't do well in school, if
you don't do your best every single day,
687
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:25,530
it's going to be real, real bad for you.
688
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:30,110
Randy and Elizabeth were greater than
the sum of their parts. They were
689
00:42:30,110 --> 00:42:32,150
undoubtedly key to each other's legacy.
690
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:37,210
Fans had never before experienced a more
emotional and relatable storyline on
691
00:42:37,210 --> 00:42:38,330
the complexity of love.
692
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:43,090
Together, they transcended television
and, well, wrestling, too.
693
00:42:43,570 --> 00:42:44,850
Even after the divorce,
694
00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:49,040
They still had a tremendous amount of
love and respect for each other. They
695
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,360
true, true celebrities and icons.
696
00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:54,180
There's not one person on the whole
planet Earth that doesn't know who they
697
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:57,080
were. From a wrestler's point of view,
she's one of the greatest performers
698
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,080
ever, you know.
699
00:42:58,140 --> 00:43:02,520
While both passed too soon, they left
their legions of fans with an epic love
700
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,440
story that will last long after they're
gone.
701
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,560
To me, Randy Savage is on the Mount
Rushmore of wrestling.
702
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,900
Could perform, could do an interview,
had the right look.
703
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,900
He was the macho man. He was an
innovator. He was a creator.
704
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,780
And he made the business better, in my
opinion.
705
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,160
I would call Randy Savage one of the all
-time greats without a doubt.
706
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:31,480
And the real human being, Randy Poffo,
was really a very good man and a loving
707
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,760
man. There was a lot of art imitating
life. You know, sometimes in the world,
708
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:38,050
what really happens... It's not really
planned.
709
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:41,150
After you roll with it, then all of a
sudden you really turn into that
710
00:43:41,150 --> 00:43:43,390
character, turn into that dilemma that
takes place.
711
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:48,610
I think people always want to think of
her as Miss Elizabeth, the one that came
712
00:43:48,610 --> 00:43:49,610
with Randy.
713
00:43:50,090 --> 00:43:53,430
You don't want to remember her being
with somebody else. It just doesn't seem
714
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:54,428
right.
715
00:43:54,430 --> 00:43:57,010
I mean, that's what we were fed, you
know, that's what we believed.
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